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Speaker 2: There's the Kios Cineramados Zakios touching ten years on pitter

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Speaker 3: Off a ninety three yard dry at the start.

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Speaker 4: This game, I'll tell you what the Ben Johnson era,

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Speaker 3: The Bears are back, baby. I love that call. I

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Speaker 3: love that we're overreacting. I love that the preseason is

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Speaker 3: inching closer to an end. This is Greg Rosenthal, this

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Speaker 3: is NFL Daily, and Nick Sook is joining me from

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Speaker 3: across the country. Every year, SHOOKI we get one preseason

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Speaker 3: game where a veteran type of team overperforms for like

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Speaker 3: two drives. It's usually these weird Fox games that are

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Speaker 3: in primetime for some reason, and then we get to

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Speaker 3: make too big a deal out of it for the

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Speaker 3: next three weeks. This is that game. The Bears got

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Speaker 3: up twenty eight to nothing on the Bills backups. Let's go.

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Speaker 5: Well, you mean to tell me the dress rehearsal doesn't

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Speaker 5: matter what I thought. This is supposed to be the

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Speaker 3: I mean to Matt, it matters a little bit. And

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Speaker 3: been played in preseason week two. There's still one more

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Speaker 3: fact that it was Caleb Williams, the fact that it

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Speaker 3: Joe Davis had his little tongue in cheek there saying

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Speaker 3: this drum beat of the joint practices are getting better

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Speaker 3: to see, just a nice decisive Caleb Williams drive, and

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean this is the drive that every Bears

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Speaker 5: felt bad for Caleb. He didn't have time to throw,

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Speaker 5: he was hesitant to throw. It was just a nightmare

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Speaker 5: of reasons to be encouraged. It is only the preseason,

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Speaker 5: but I like the positives that came out of this game,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're understanding the offense because if you watch lot

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Speaker 3: Other than that, I didn't have like major Bills takeaways

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Speaker 3: like I mentioned, we have fourteen other games we're getting to.

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Speaker 3: it's not a huge story, and this show is more

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Speaker 3: I thought they were set up for Tyler Shook to

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Speaker 5: It's not the only quarterback battle that is in this

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Speaker 5: strange at the position, and we will get to them. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I also tend to not like I know that coaches

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Speaker 3: And the Jaguars did play their starters on both sides

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Speaker 3: After the game, Sean Payton was asked, like about his

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you you mentioned he had two hundred and

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Speaker 3: I added up his two weeks. He's thirty for thirty

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Speaker 5: Just an update there for you. You know, that's a

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Speaker 3: Yes, and our old friend Will Hernandez I had mentioned

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Speaker 3: Bucks win seventeen fourteen. I like to say the score

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Speaker 3: every once in a while, Why don't you start give

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm all over the in Mecca a Buka

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Speaker 5: see more out of Roman Wilson. Two catches for seventy

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Speaker 3: Yeah, two big plays because that's not what you think

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Speaker 6: Third and three a big one for the Steelers defense

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Speaker 3: he thinks he is okay. And I'm curious because you

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Speaker 3: watch the big ten, like Caleb Johnson, I saw those

431
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Speaker 3: numbers so I did. I did go back and watch

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Speaker 3: his carries, and he played behind Gainwell like very clearly,

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Speaker 3: and they just sat Jalen Warren. So to me, he

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Speaker 3: might be third in line. And I know the numbers

435
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Speaker 3: were good, but he's like a big a big back.

436
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Speaker 3: It was a lot of East West, so I have

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Speaker 3: a feeling they'll be trying to I coach him on

438
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Speaker 3: just he had major holes in this game, like to

439
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Speaker 3: run through, and so I'm not giving him too much

440
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Speaker 3: credit and maybe it's a little concerning he's behind Gainwell.

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Speaker 5: I also see him as a prospect who is going

442
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Speaker 5: to take a little bit longer to ramp up because

443
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Speaker 5: of the transition from Iowa football specifically, which is very

444
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Speaker 5: much old school between the tackles, running ground and pound,

445
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Speaker 5: to the NFL, and he has to adjust to that.

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Speaker 5: And I also think that they draft him with the

447
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Speaker 5: idea that they don't need to lean on him, but

448
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Speaker 5: they hope that eventually he becomes the rugged back that

449
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Speaker 5: Najie Harris was for them for so long, and they

450
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Speaker 5: know that they can kind of make it work with

451
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Speaker 5: Jalen Warren and Kenny Gainwell in between. So that's why

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Speaker 5: a little bit surprising that you don't see him get

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Speaker 5: starter reps though, because you would want him to get

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Speaker 5: more reps in a preseason game, but then again, you're

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Speaker 5: getting your starters out of there after a few series.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Derek Harmon, their first round pick, defensive lineman who

457
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Speaker 3: I don't think we've mentioned on the show almost at all.

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Speaker 3: In camp, the reports have all been really good. They

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Speaker 3: say he's a week one starter. He had a sack,

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Speaker 3: a big run stop in this game. So it's really

461
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Speaker 3: been positives for the Steelers for Derek Harmon. You never

462
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Speaker 3: know if those first round picks look like first round picks,

463
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Speaker 3: and he does right away. All right, let's go to

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Speaker 3: the Giants and the Jets. You know this is this

465
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Speaker 3: was the Snoopy Bowl back in the day with Rex Ryan,

466
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Speaker 3: way back when like Joe Namath was playing. This is

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Speaker 3: how I can't understand what football was like then. Supposedly

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Speaker 3: like a preseason game following the Jets Super Bowl Nick

469
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Speaker 3: the guarantee by Joe Namath, Like the preseason game the

470
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Speaker 3: following year, by all accounts, was a bigger deal than

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl the previous year, which is hard for

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Speaker 3: our mind to really wrap around. But like in terms

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Speaker 3: of audience fans there, Like people weren't really into the

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Speaker 3: super Bowl back then, but the New York people were

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Speaker 3: into the New York teams and the Giants were the

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Speaker 3: It's hard to really imagine that being the case. I

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Speaker 3: would not say it was that big a deal this year,

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Speaker 3: But Drew Locke is coming bro like he might be

479
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Speaker 3: the number one story of the preseason so far. Jackson

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Speaker 3: Dart playing this well and kind of putting that that,

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Speaker 3: you know, making that least just a little tighter on

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Speaker 3: Russell Wilson. I think I think he is. I don't

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Speaker 3: know what story is bigger, like a non injury story.

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Speaker 5: No, I agree. Watching this, I thought Russ played pretty well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good point. He had.

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Speaker 5: He had a classic like Russ fade, nice, ripped down

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Speaker 5: the middle type of thing, like played like Russ is

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Speaker 5: expected to play. But then there was and I don't

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Speaker 5: know if it was because of the portion of the game,

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Speaker 5: because Dark comes in like the middle of the second quarter,

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Speaker 5: right there's like seven thirty left from the clock, and

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Speaker 5: suddenly darts in. It's almost as if like somebody took

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Speaker 5: a syringe and just injected them with adrenaline as an offense.

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Speaker 5: They just like ran a more competent offense. He was

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Speaker 5: in complete control. I know, again it's mid second quarter,

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Speaker 5: so you're not facing the full strength of what Russell

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Speaker 5: Wilson might have been facing, but they just operated better.

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Speaker 5: They just they seemed like an offense that could really

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Speaker 5: move the football. I call me crazy, but after two

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Speaker 5: preseason games and reading through the tea leaves and the

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Speaker 5: lines of how Brian Able treated the first game, I

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Speaker 5: would not be surprised if we saw Jackson Dart win

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Speaker 5: that job and pull a classic Russell Wilson over Matt

504
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Speaker 5: Flinn's situation at this point, it's crazy, it's New York,

505
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Speaker 5: all the spotlights on him. But for all of that,

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Speaker 5: I feel like Dart is actually capable of handling that,

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Speaker 5: and he's played really well through two games.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you. I am a little pushed off

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Speaker 3: that by Dable immediately at the press conference after we're

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Speaker 3: saying Russ is our starter. You know, that was the question.

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Speaker 3: But we've seen coaches back off that after, you know,

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Speaker 3: either watching more games or watching the film or talking

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Speaker 3: to the two guys, So it's not that crazy. I

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Speaker 3: saw Dan Duggan of the Athletic getting pushed back for

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Speaker 3: basically writing a column not even saying that a lot

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Speaker 3: that I keep wanting to call him Drew Locke for

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Speaker 3: some reason, Jackson Dart. It just they just seemed so similar.

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Speaker 5: Drew lock had that game he balled out last year.

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Speaker 3: It's so similar in terms of vibes that all he

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Speaker 3: was saying was, man, it might not be long till

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Speaker 3: we see Dart. But that no challenge for week one.

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Speaker 3: It's not crazy at all. And it was almost like

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Speaker 3: when Dark came in the game, suddenly Dable is like

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Speaker 3: just felt alive and was just doing everything from this

525
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Speaker 3: offense was totally different. It was up tempo, it was

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Speaker 3: playing all to Jackson Dart's strength. It was a totally

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Speaker 3: different offense. And I kind of was thinking, like, well,

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Speaker 3: if you're going to totally change the offense for the

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Speaker 3: guy who's your future, it's like, why wait till we

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Speaker 3: do it? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Right, yeah, just do it? Like we don't need the

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Speaker 5: bridge quarterback is the bridge quarterback because you need to

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Speaker 5: get to the other side of the bridge. If you

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Speaker 5: already know or have the destination the route to the

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Speaker 5: other side, go there, Just go there, skip the travel,

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Speaker 5: just get to the next guy. I might be crazy.

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Speaker 5: I might be again hyperbolic here, but I think that

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Speaker 5: if you feel that confident about this guy, and he

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Speaker 5: showed what he showed through two preseason games, just do it.

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Speaker 5: Who cares?

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Speaker 3: Who cared?

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Speaker 5: You're coaching for your job, who cares? Take the guy

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Speaker 5: you like?

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Speaker 3: It just won't be long, like Russell Wilson will one

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Speaker 3: bad game and he could get bench and and to

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Speaker 3: your point, he did look totally fine in this game.

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Speaker 3: That that shot that he had was a sixty hair

548
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Speaker 3: yard plus throw. I mean, it was sweet, and they

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Speaker 3: scored a touchdown on that drive. The you know, the

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Speaker 3: receiver Bo Collins, undrafted rookie who I assume is making

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Speaker 3: this team because he was starting, got like one yard short,

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Speaker 3: you know. But then Russell Wilson the next couple drives,

553
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Speaker 3: they didn't they didn't score. He actually went punt punt

554
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Speaker 3: interception on a miscommunication the next four drives. So it

555
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Speaker 3: wasn't like an amazing performance. Dart I didn't think was

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Speaker 3: actually as flashy as the first start. He didn't make

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Speaker 3: any as many wild throws. He just moved the offense

558
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Speaker 3: and handled the screenplays and evaded pressure and everything was

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Speaker 3: just like very professional on the Jet side, Justin Fields

560
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Speaker 3: only went one for five for four yards. In two

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Speaker 3: weeks Nick, he has averaged three point nine air yards

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Speaker 3: per throw, which is just wild and like the Jets

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Speaker 3: would say, we don't care. The second drive of this game,

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Speaker 3: they ran the ball Nick ten straight times to start

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Speaker 3: the drive before before Fields threw a pass eleven out

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Speaker 3: of twelve in what was I think a touchdown drive.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm not one to try to find excuses

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Speaker 5: for Justin Field to this point in his career, but

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Speaker 5: I do wonder, like opponent, you know, they like the

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Speaker 5: Giants defense looked like world beaters against his offense with

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Speaker 5: him on the field, no matter whether they ran or through.

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Speaker 5: And it wasn't until Martinez comes in and you know,

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Speaker 5: obviously you have your backups in they started to move

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Speaker 5: the football and he looked pretty solid, you know, for

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Speaker 5: a backup. So I just wonder, like it, did he

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Speaker 5: have two challenging defenses that he went against in the

577
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Speaker 5: preseason and as he's trying to figure out this offense

578
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Speaker 5: or is it still this is just who they're going

579
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Speaker 5: to be. I'm not one hundred percent sort we'll find

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Speaker 5: out in the regular season, but not encouraging statistically, no,

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Speaker 5: not encouraging.

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Speaker 3: Well and coming off the joint practices where all the

583
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Speaker 3: reporters were like the Jets didn't even try to throw

584
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Speaker 3: the ball, And it's true. I mean like they're their

585
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Speaker 3: number one receiver is very good Garrett Wilson, their number

586
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Speaker 3: two is either Josh Reynolds or rookie tight end Mason Taylor.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they are gonna run the ball a lot.

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Speaker 3: I think it was noteworthy Breeze Hall was rotating, you know,

589
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Speaker 3: with the starters with Braylan Allen, I just, you know,

590
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Speaker 3: for fantasy, I just don't think he's gonna be that

591
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 3: volume guy this year. And then we've just been talking,

592
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Speaker 3: you know, so much about you know, the rookies in general,

593
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Speaker 3: and Carter for the Abdul Carter for the Giants, and

594
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Speaker 3: then Membu for the Jets, like how amazing they look

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Speaker 3: the week go. So it's only fair to note that

596
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Speaker 3: they had some down moments in this game. Membu definitely

597
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 3: gave up a lot of pressure to the Giants, and

598
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Speaker 3: on the flip side, Carter did not have the crazy

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Speaker 3: standout game. He kind of had a welcome to the

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Speaker 3: NFL moment where he just got knocked on the ground

601
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Speaker 3: and hit silly, So it'll happen. I'm really excited though,

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Speaker 3: to see those two guys when the regular season starts.

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Speaker 3: Let's take a quick break. We've hit a couple of

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Speaker 3: the quarterback battles. We've got more to come.

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Speaker 2: Back.

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Speaker 3: On NFL Daily, we just talked the Battle of New York.

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00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 3: There is no greater rivalry in the City of Angels

608
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 3: than Chargers Rams preseason, so it's not remotely true, but sneaky.

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Speaker 3: I don't think these teams like each other. It's not

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Speaker 3: really about the teams. It's more like you're sharing a building.

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00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 3: Like I think it is a thing, but the preseason

612
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 3: is not when you really find out much. Unfortunately, the

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00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 3: biggest takeaway for me in this game Shook was the

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Speaker 3: Chargers receivers, which had some good with the with the

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Speaker 3: young players, but bad when it came to Quinton Johnston.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Johnson takes a hard hit, knocks them out of

617
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Speaker 5: the game. You know, worried about head injuries. You're worried

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00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 5: about depth on this team, and that's been a concern

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Speaker 5: for us throughout this entire preseason. You know, we've we've

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Speaker 5: heard you know, Jordan said that Trey Harris has some things,

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Speaker 5: some stuff to him. I believe it's paraphrasing of what

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Speaker 5: she said, and yet we still have a group that

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Speaker 5: we kind of have to sort out. This is also

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Speaker 5: a group that saw Mike Williams unexpectedly retire. They bring

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00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 5: in Keenan Allen kind of plugged that gap. They're not

626
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 5: in crisis, but it has not been easy for them

627
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 5: as well. So this is not encouraging, But again it

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Speaker 5: is It's okay that it's happening in week two of

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Speaker 5: the preseason and not week two of the regular season.

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Speaker 5: There was an opportunity though, as a result for some

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Speaker 5: of these guys lower on the depth chart to make

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Speaker 5: a difference. Trey Harris being one of them, you want

633
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Speaker 5: to talk about having some stuff to him. Six catches

634
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 5: for eighty five yards played really well in this game.

635
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 5: Candre Lambert Smith two for sixty six as well, and

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Speaker 5: then you get tight En Raheem Sanders getting involved with

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Speaker 5: a couple of catches too. So it's not, you know,

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00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,239
Speaker 5: the worst, but again it's preseason. You have to kind

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00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 5: of figure out, all right, well, who are they playing against?

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Speaker 5: When you're evaluating, there are worst scenarios and situations at

641
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 5: receiver elsewhere than the Chargers. But for a playoff team

642
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 5: that is clearly going to be a run first team

643
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 5: that wants to win in the trenches, you would like

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Speaker 5: to have, you know, reliable options. Luckily you have Justin

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Speaker 5: Herbert who's still going to make those guys better just

646
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Speaker 5: because he's so good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just so Chargers. Though they never play their

648
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Speaker 3: starters in the preseason, Reportedly, it was Justin Herbert's decision

649
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Speaker 3: more than anything, like was kind of pushing Harball like

650
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Speaker 3: I really want to play. He was like, okay, and

651
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Speaker 3: you're gonna play the starters. Then with him three plays in,

652
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 3: he throws, you know, a beautiful ball down the field

653
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Speaker 3: which gets deflected, then it goes through Johnston's hand, kind

654
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Speaker 3: of an unnecessary hit by the Rams defender there who

655
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Speaker 3: takes him out and he's out cold, and just like, man,

656
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Speaker 3: this is so Chargers.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 3: He immediately had feeling. He did go to a hospital,

659
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Speaker 3: but it's a concussion. We're about three weeks till that

660
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Speaker 3: Brazil game, so hopefully can get healthy in time. And

661
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Speaker 3: it was good to see Trey Harris do something. He'd

662
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Speaker 3: been relatively quiet in camp compared to Andre Lambert Smith,

663
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Speaker 3: who was a fifth round pick. Trey Harris was the

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Speaker 3: second round pick. Lambert Smith, I think it's safe to

665
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Speaker 3: say had a better camp and definitely a better preseason

666
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Speaker 3: before tonight. But then Trey Lance comes in and he

667
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Speaker 3: starts forcing him some balls in difficult situation, and I

668
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Speaker 3: thought this was Trey Lance's best game. I know Trey

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Speaker 3: Lance has looked really good this preseason, but it's mostly

670
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Speaker 3: been running. In this game, he tried a couple throws

671
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Speaker 3: into tough spots that were advanced throws for him, and

672
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Speaker 3: Trey Harris really stepped up, and you were like, Okay,

673
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Speaker 3: it was great to see it. And then Lambert Smith,

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Speaker 3: who also took a big hit when Herbert was still

675
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Speaker 3: in the game and he went out for a minute,

676
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Speaker 3: came back in and had two big throws. So I

677
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Speaker 3: think you feel great that these two rookies have stepped up.

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Speaker 3: Keenan Allen did start, though over both of them. I

679
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Speaker 3: thought it was interesting how they used him and Mconkee.

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Speaker 3: You know, one was in the slot Maconkee to start

681
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Speaker 3: and Allen's on the outside, and then they kind of

682
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Speaker 3: flip them during the drive. I think that's kind of

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Speaker 3: how they're gonna use it, but for now it's Keenan

684
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Speaker 3: Allen's job. All Right, let's talk rams because Stetson Bennett

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Speaker 3: is becoming a thing, such a thing. I actually think

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Speaker 3: it's time for Who Delivered, presented by Uber Eats Stet's

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Speaker 3: invented Stetson Bennett Delivered. I mean I mentioned there's two

688
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Speaker 3: candidates for preseason MVP earlier in the show, Nick, I

689
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Speaker 3: think these are the two. I think it's Jared Stidham,

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Speaker 3: you can tell me who else would be in there.

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Speaker 3: And I think it's Stetson Bennett because you don't do

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Speaker 3: much more than he did in this game, going over

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Speaker 3: three hundred yards three touchdowns, had to pick but responded

694
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Speaker 3: from it with a late touchdown to win the game

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Speaker 3: and the Battle of La Rust.

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Speaker 5: So you just made that catch at the bottom of

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Speaker 5: your screen.

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Speaker 3: Stetson stands in drills one end zone from the moment.

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Speaker 3: I want them to the end of the house. True

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Speaker 3: Jesus size, it's out there.

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Speaker 5: I want to finish from stets and Bennett.

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Speaker 3: My goodness, that was the trio that gets it done

703
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 3: each and every week. Our friends JB. Long, Mina Chimes

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Speaker 3: and Maurice Jones, Drew Stetson. Bennett had a fourth and

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Speaker 3: ten nick at the forty eight yard line with nineteen

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Speaker 3: seconds to go, and they hit a forty yarder and

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Speaker 3: then an eight yarder to a man I wasn't familiar

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Speaker 3: with true edwards for the game winner to win by one,

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Speaker 3: I mean that it is very difficult to go from

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Speaker 3: fourth and ten at the forty eight with nineteen seconds

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Speaker 3: to go down to touch that and win the game.

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Speaker 3: How about that?

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Speaker 5: Oh? He also completed converted a fourth and three with

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Speaker 5: forty one seconds to go for a five yard completion

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Speaker 5: as well, like they had to convert multiple fourth downs

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Speaker 5: in this final drive. Look, you can say what you

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Speaker 5: want about his ceiling or whatever and the fact that

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Speaker 5: they're playing in the preseason, but I hate to sound

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Speaker 5: like a classic college coach here, but I'm going to

720
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Speaker 5: Guy's a winner. Guy was a winner at Georgia. Yeah,

721
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Speaker 5: he took some time away from the team as a pro.

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Speaker 5: He's been back. He's back. You know, he's recentered himself.

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Speaker 5: He's delivering in the clutch, which obviously falls under this

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Speaker 5: Uber Eats Deliver award. And I think the question is

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Speaker 5: what is he delivering via uber Eats other than w's

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Speaker 5: and clutch touchdowns because I'm thinking, like what do I

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Speaker 5: like to get delivered? Usually comfort food? Do I want

728
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Speaker 5: fried chicken? Do I want? Like what is tasty? Because

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Speaker 5: that was delicious for Stetson Bennett in the Rams.

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Speaker 3: I mean, never never say that Nick Schuk won't do

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Speaker 3: everything and more, I mean he's giving more value to

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Speaker 3: this sponsor read than they even asked for. And you're

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Speaker 3: absolutely right, and I think it could matter. You know,

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Speaker 3: Saturday morning, Matthew Stafford was supposed to work out with

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Speaker 3: the team. They asked officials about it during the game.

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Speaker 3: The Los Angeles Times reported the Rams said, Sean McVay

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Speaker 3: will address that Monday, So who knows. We don't need

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Speaker 3: to talk about that anymore. But Bennett could matter for

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Speaker 3: this team. He'd be the backup to Garoppolo and he

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Speaker 3: Order now. And yeah, the last thing I'll say on

744
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Speaker 3: Bennett was, you know, the Chargers defense and Bennett played

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Speaker 3: the whole game. They deserve credit. It was kind of

746
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Speaker 3: a nightmare start to the Chargers because the Rams backups

747
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Speaker 3: marched down the field and scored a touchdown on all

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Speaker 3: the Chargers starters, so it was a reverse of what

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Speaker 3: you normally here. And then they just let Bennett play

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Speaker 3: the whole game. So he played the starters, the second stringers,

751
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Speaker 3: the third and he played against and with everyone, and

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00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 3: he scored a really good drive with Quor Matt running

753
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Speaker 3: back and making nice throws against the starters. But in

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Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, the defensive coordinator for the Chargers actually

755
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Speaker 3: dropped a defensive tackle into coverage and Bennett got intercepted,

756
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Speaker 3: and that defensive tackle just ran over Bennett. It was

757
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Speaker 3: like one of the best highlights of the preseason. And

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Speaker 3: then Bennett, you know, respond so fun, fun little preseason game.

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Speaker 3: We had a couple this week. Let's go to the

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Speaker 3: Ravens and the Cowboys, the Cooper Rush revenge game. Much

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Speaker 3: less fun, chock. I didn't have a ton of huge

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Speaker 3: takeaways here, other than like, if the Cowboys have to

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Speaker 3: just feel backups this season, it will be the worst

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Speaker 3: team in football because they have not. They have not

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Speaker 3: looked good these first two weeks.

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Speaker 5: Honestly, look, I'm not a hater without like some sort

767
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Speaker 5: of you know, reason to be a hater. Joe Milton's

768
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Speaker 5: looks really bad in the preseason. Now he finished nine

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Speaker 5: for eighteen, but he was awful in the three for

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Speaker 5: ten and it was terrible. It was absolutely two first

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Speaker 5: first eight. Couldn't connect through another interception into double coverage

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Speaker 5: in the end zone on a deep ball where we

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Speaker 5: just let it rip. He's still sail and passes over guys.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, if he has to play, you can leave

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Speaker 5: the rest of the starters out there. If Dak can't

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Speaker 5: play for some reason and they have to go to

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Speaker 5: Joe Milton, it's going to be a bad scenario for

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Speaker 5: the Cowboys. So that was my main takeaway. On the

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Speaker 5: Cowboys side, I still hate their running back room, and

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Speaker 5: again I sound like a hater, but Miles Standers and

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Speaker 5: Jevon two Williams, I don't get inspired by that. Miles

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Speaker 5: Standers was ineffective in this game as well. Liked what

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Speaker 5: I saw from Tyler Booker when he was out there.

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Speaker 5: But the rest of my takeaways come from the Ravens side,

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Speaker 5: which is that they can run the ball at will

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Speaker 5: still even with Ali as the main running back. He

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Speaker 5: went nineteen for sixty two. Yeah, it's only three point

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Speaker 5: three a pot, but he had some really nice runs,

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Speaker 5: especially some that he was able to bounce outside. And

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Speaker 5: my guy former Kent State Golden Flash, former North Carolina

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Speaker 5: tar Hill, Devontes Walker was a key pass catcher in

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Speaker 5: the first half. He finishes with six catches on eight

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Speaker 5: targets for sixty one yards. Five of those came in

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Speaker 5: the first half. Could have had a touchdown of Rush

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Speaker 5: would have put it on him. It was kind of

796
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Speaker 5: a scrambled drill play. Yeah, that's about it. Rush, you know,

797
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Speaker 5: threw a couple of picks. Didn't look great, didn't look

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Speaker 5: as good as he used to look. With the Cowboys,

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Speaker 5: I think there's still an adjustment period for them before

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Speaker 5: they turned to Drew Leary. So a classic preseason game

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Speaker 5: where you look at it after me and you go,

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Speaker 5: well that happened. I watched that game.

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Speaker 3: The most notable thing was who didn't play, I think

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Speaker 3: for the Cowboys, Javontae Williams sat and so I heard

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Speaker 3: some talk after, especially from the local guys, like Okay,

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Speaker 3: that's Javonte Williams winning the job. He is there starting

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Speaker 3: running back. I think, and I think Phil MafA. This

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Speaker 3: rookie who I talked up at training camp, who who

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Speaker 3: I popped a big run on the day I was there,

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Speaker 3: a fifty yard touchdown. I think he's going to make

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Speaker 3: this team. He's played well. Jayden Blue is going to

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Speaker 3: make this team. They might not even keep Miles Sanders there.

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Mingo, who I wasn't sure was going to make

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Speaker 3: the team anyways, hurt his knee. It's reportedly a PCL injury.

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Speaker 3: So just a little bit of a note there. And

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Speaker 3: after the game, John Harbaugh announced if there was any doubt,

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Speaker 3: Tyler Loop is their kicker. Now, he did miss a

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Speaker 3: fifty yarder in this game, but he is definitely their kicker.

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Speaker 3: No surprise they are. Keaton Mitchell, who had missed all

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Speaker 3: week of practice, has a hamstring injury. They do think

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Speaker 3: he's going to be back. And yeah, in terms of

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Speaker 3: the one sided natures of the backups, I mean, I

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Speaker 3: know it's just backups, but you don't want your backups

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Speaker 3: to get seven first downs and the other team backups

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Speaker 3: to get twenty six first downs. But so that's where

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Speaker 3: these two teams were at least over the week. And

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Speaker 3: let's move on. We don't need to spend too much

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Speaker 3: time on this game. The forty nine Ers and the

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Speaker 3: Raiders to me were more fun because we got Geno

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Speaker 3: out there, we got Brock Bauers out there with a

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Speaker 3: really nice catch down the field, and then we got

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Speaker 3: Ashton gent Y truck sticking someone to get.

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Speaker 4: He is punching off defenders and dragged out and Max

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Speaker 4: Crosby's the first one off the sideline to get a

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Speaker 4: high five.

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Speaker 3: Great call there by the Raiders crew that got me

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Speaker 3: fired up. And yes, if you're listening to this in

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Speaker 3: your ears, we do have a YouTube version of the

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Speaker 3: show with the highlights when we get to the Sunday

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Speaker 3: regular season. We're all about the highlights and the calls,

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Speaker 3: and it's just nice to get that back in the mix.

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Speaker 3: So check that out, like and subscribe. It was cool

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Speaker 3: to see Ashton Genty shook just kind of look like

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Speaker 3: Ashton Genty out there after a quiet first preseason week.

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Speaker 3: I've seen.

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Speaker 5: I've seen enough out of him. I don't yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: he can go on ice for the rest of the preseason.

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Speaker 5: I don't need anything to be proven to me. I

849
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Speaker 5: know who he is and I know that his game

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Speaker 5: is going to translate to the next level very well.

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Speaker 5: And we saw multiple instances of this in that game,

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Speaker 5: not just that truck stick run, but multiple runs for him.

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Speaker 5: He finished off that drive with a touchdown run as well,

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Speaker 5: kind of barrel through a defender. But you talked about

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Speaker 5: having home calls on preseason games, and I know that

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Speaker 5: that was the home call for the Raiders. But if

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Speaker 5: you listen, you can watch, or you can listen no

858
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Speaker 5: matter how you're consuming this podcast right now, you can

859
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 5: hear the energy had voice right there right That was

860
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 5: the energy emanating from Allegiant Stadium that day because Gino

861
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 5: and Genty and Brock Bowers and Pete Carroll have injected

862
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 5: so much life into this franchise seemingly overnight that it

863
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 5: may it convinced me as I'm watching them go down

864
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 5: the field and score, oh my god, the Raiders might

865
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 5: be fun again. I might want to watch this team

866
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 5: all season long. It's like a day and night transformation.

867
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 5: I know it's the preseason, but it's been so long

868
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 5: since the Silver and Black has taken the field and

869
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 5: come out with like authority and an attitude, and they

870
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 5: certainly embody that in this game. And I know again

871
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 5: it's the preseason. But Gino was sharp. He looks like

872
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 5: he's in complete command of that offense. I love the

873
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 5: idea of him, you know, capitalizing with brock Bowers all year.

874
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 5: That that throw that he had to brock Bowers, by

875
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 5: the way, early in that game, he was not open.

876
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,919
Speaker 5: Brock Bowers just made a great play on a great

877
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 5: ball by Gino. So super excited about their potential.

878
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 3: Let's see that play. Genty who was right behind Geno

879
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 3: Smith first down taking a shot over the safety Giret

880
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 3: ground That's a pick up a thirty best on best

881
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 3: that there were a lot of starters on the field

882
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 3: for the forty nine ers, by the way, so it

883
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 3: was starters. I liked how Gino, you know, was changing

884
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 3: the protections, changing the calls, getting them into the right spot.

885
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 3: A couple of surprises for the Raiders, you know. Right now,

886
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 3: at least, I don't put too much into the preseas.

887
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 3: But like Bowers is kind of like coming in and

888
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 3: on and off the field, I'm just guessing that's that. Like,

889
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 3: while Mayer just stays there, I'm guessing that's just the preseason.

890
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 3: They don't want to put him too much on him

891
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 3: right now, Jack Besh is definitely not a starter, not

892
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 3: playing with the starters. The rookie Dante Thornton, drafted much later,

893
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 3: is a starter. Jackson Powers Johnson, who was drafted high,

894
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 3: is definitely not the starter. They confirm that at center

895
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 3: it's going to be Jordan Meredith and jpj is competing

896
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 3: just to start at guard. And then here was someone

897
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 3: I had never heard of. I have to admit before,

898
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 3: a man by the name of Q Blue Kelly Q

899
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 3: first name blue, middle name or part of the first name,

900
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 3: not sure, but two different words. Kelly was starting at

901
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 3: cornerback and he had all week guy who had been

902
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 3: on the practice squad previously, been in the league for

903
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 3: three years. Their search in there, and they're just trying

904
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 3: to find guys that Pete Carroll can believe them, believe in.

905
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 3: He was actually with the Seahawks a couple of years ago,

906
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 3: so he knows him and he might be their starting

907
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 3: cornerbackets they are thin there. The forty nine ers are

908
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 3: just trying to get through this preseason shook healthy and

909
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 3: it's not really working. Dominic Pooney, their good young guard

910
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 3: who played really well last year, is reportedly going to

911
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 3: be out a few weeks with a PCL injury, and

912
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 3: then they had a couple more running backs go down

913
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 3: in this game. Not guys we know that well, Corey

914
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 3: Kiner and Patrick Taylor, but Corey Kiner was an undrafted

915
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 3: guy who was going to make this team and I

916
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 3: counted it up. Now their top four backups behind Christian

917
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 3: McCaffrey are all hurt. I don't think and even are

918
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 3: super long term. But it's just weird that McCaffrey's like

919
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 3: the one guy that's held and everyone else is hurt there.

920
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, and there was an injury that saw mcaffreck come

921
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 5: out there to kind of, you know, console his teammate

922
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 5: and it was just like you can almost see in

923
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 5: his eyes like I'm reminded again of how fragile my

924
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 5: career is. Like he's not even dressed. But yeah, it's

925
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 5: a little concerning for their offense. By the way, brock

926
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 5: Purty looked really sharp when he was out there before

927
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 5: they went down the death charts of Mac Jones, who

928
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 5: threw a pretty awful interception. But it kind of reminded

929
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 5: me of you know, I talked so glowingly about the

930
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 5: Raiders offense, I am concerned about this defense. For the

931
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 5: reason that you just explained, and also they kind of

932
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 5: got shredded. And I know Jeremy Chin has always been

933
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 5: a playmaker at safety and made a play on that interception,

934
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 5: but I think that's going to be a real weakness

935
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 5: for them this year. I think they're gonna end up

936
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 5: in a lot of relatively high scoring games because that's

937
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 5: the only way They're going to be able to win

938
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 5: based on what I've seen. And it makes me wonder,

939
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 5: why did you go trade Jacorey and Bennett last week

940
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 5: if you are so thin in the secondary? A lot

941
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 5: to sort out there before we get the Week one.

942
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, not a scheme fit, I guess be the answer.

943
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, I will get to the Patriots, but they

944
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 3: have one of the best matchups for fantasy or in

945
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 3: reality their offense in Week one, going up against this

946
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 3: Raiders defense. One guy we haven't mentioned that was good

947
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 3: with when Pertty was on the field was DeMarcus Robinson,

948
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 3: the former ram who they actually gave pretty good money to.

949
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 3: He is expected to be suspended at the beginning of

950
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 3: the season. He will be suspended at the beginning of

951
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 3: the season, but when he comes back in like he

952
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 3: will be a key part of their rotation, and Pierce

953
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 3: all the hype for him as like a wide receiver

954
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 3: one continues like he had a nice game. The forty

955
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 3: nine is a reminder like they really needed a draft

956
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 3: to hit, and I think it's gonna happen, But man,

957
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 3: the draft is so unpredictable. Michael Williams has been hurt,

958
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 3: but he's expected to start. Their first round pick, but

959
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 3: I went and looked through it, and their second round pick,

960
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 3: Alfred Collins taken forty three overall, just does not look

961
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 3: ready to contribute as really struggled, might be pretty deep

962
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 3: on that depth chart. And then their next pick, Nick

963
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 3: Martin at linebacker really struggled last week, was a little

964
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 3: better this week, but it's pretty far down the depth chart,

965
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 3: so those guys aren't going to contribute yet. The two

966
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 3: hundred and forty ninth pick Connor Colby might be their

967
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: starting guard. The one hundred and sixtieth pick Marcus Sickly

968
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 3: has been rising and might be their starting safety. And

969
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 3: then Upton Stout was a late third round pick, the

970
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 3: one hundredth pick in the draft and almost certainly is

971
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 3: their starting nickel. So it doesn't really matter where you

972
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 3: find them. But it reminds us we remember when we project, like,

973
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 3: oh this guy will fit there. This is the draft classes,

974
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 3: like you really don't know until you get to this

975
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 3: time of the season. It sounds like they found some

976
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 3: late round guys, but their mid round, you know, earlier

977
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 3: picks not hitting as much. But you'll take it if

978
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 3: you get three or four contributing rookies.

979
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 5: And I have two takeaways from this. This is number

980
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 5: one why draft grades are the most useless exercise in

981
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 5: sports media, Like immediate draft grades, none of you have

982
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 5: any idea how they're going to fit or how they're

983
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 5: going to play in that team, or how they're going

984
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 5: to actimate to the pro game. And the other is

985
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 5: this is also why it's important to make sure that

986
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 5: you attack position groups of need with veterans the offseason.

987
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 5: And that was my main takeaway from this game for

988
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 5: the Niners was that guys like DeMarcus Robinson, even Russell Gage,

989
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 5: he made a really nice diving catch in this game

990
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 5: where I was like, oh, yeah, he's on this team.

991
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 5: He could make a difference because they're going to need

992
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 5: these guys because I still coming back from the knee injury.

993
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 5: It's it's I give credit to John Lynch for at

994
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 5: least approaching this with from both angles. From all right, look,

995
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 5: we may be a little thin there. Let's go pick

996
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 5: up some veterans who might be on their last contract

997
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 5: or second to last contract. Give them another shot, see

998
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,919
Speaker 5: if they can perform, and at least in this game,

999
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 5: a lot of them did.

1000
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, DeMarcus Robinson, I should clarify, is quote bracing for

1001
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 3: a three game suspension. And it's an automatic three game

1002
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 3: suspension usually when you plead guilty or no contest to

1003
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 3: a dui, which is what happened, But the suspension hasn't

1004
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 3: actually happened yet. So just just for clarification purposes, let's

1005
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 3: move on to the Browns and the Eagles, and we've

1006
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 3: got a trade on Sunday, kind of a challenge trade.

1007
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 3: I don't know what you would call it. The Texans

1008
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 3: traded John Metchi, the wide receiver and a fifth round

1009
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 3: pick I believe to Harrison to the Eagles for Harrison Bryant,

1010
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 3: a tight end and another pick. It was actually them

1011
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 3: trading back the picks that they had traded each other

1012
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 3: day three picks in the Chauncey Gardner Johnson trade, which

1013
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 3: is just like, why what are we even doing here?

1014
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 3: But I don't know if you have any takeaways. Mechi overcame,

1015
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 3: you know, cancer when he first entered the league, was

1016
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 3: on the roster bubble, and this is maybe a chance

1017
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 3: for him to stick with the Eagles when I'm guessing

1018
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 3: he wasn't like a lock to make this Texans roster.

1019
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, a couple of takeaways. One Nick Casterio and Howie

1020
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 5: Roseman just apparently loved to talk to each other on

1021
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 5: the phone, because this is the second time that the

1022
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 5: Texans have traded a former draftic that they no longer

1023
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 5: like to the Eagles, the other one being Kenyan Green,

1024
00:47:58,680 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 5: the guard that they sent to the Eagles in the

1025
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 5: off season. So you know, I liked I think I

1026
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 5: talked about this on the show last week, which is

1027
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 5: that Metchi served an important purpose in their first preseason

1028
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 5: game as just a volume catcher. But I do think

1029
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 5: that as they sift through this depth chart, they probably

1030
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 5: just didn't see room for him and felt they needed

1031
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 5: to get something for him. And what they got is

1032
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 5: a body at tight end and Harrison Brian who's been

1033
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 5: around the league. He started his career with the Browns.

1034
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 5: He's an Ivy leaguer, and he's a guy that can

1035
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 5: fill a spot that was left open by Brevin Jordan's injury.

1036
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 5: So a guy that can compete for a job they have,

1037
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 5: you know, Dalton Schultz, Kate Stover, and Irv Smith Junior

1038
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 5: on that Dutscha as well. So there's no guarantee that

1039
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 5: he ends up even on this roster. But I think

1040
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 5: at this point, if you're making that deal, you're looking

1041
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 5: at Look, we have too many receivers. We don't think

1042
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 5: Mechi's going to make the team. Let's move him now

1043
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 5: to a team that might give him an opportunity get

1044
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 5: a player back that we would like to at least

1045
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 5: get into the mix before the end of training camp

1046
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 5: in preseason.

1047
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,439
Speaker 3: Yeah. And to be clear, and this hurts my brain

1048
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 3: because they're trading the picks back and forth, but the

1049
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 3: Texans moved back up. In the previous trade. They had

1050
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 3: moved down from the fifth to the sixth, like swapping

1051
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 3: the two teams fix and now they move back up

1052
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 3: as part of this trade, which is indicating like Mechi is,

1053
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 3: you know, a little bit more valuable in this case

1054
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 3: than Brian. We'll see, because you know, he's got to

1055
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 3: he's got to go make that team. I really like

1056
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 3: what I've heard out of Johan Dotson. He's a solid

1057
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 3: three for the Eagles this year, so Mechi's kind of

1058
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 3: battling to be the four. In terms of the game,

1059
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 3: it was not Eagles Texans, it was Eagles Browns, and

1060
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 3: we got a whole new round of Brown's quarterback takes.

1061
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 3: Let's not talk about Dylan Gabriel's comment on the sideline

1062
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 3: at this point. Let's just talk shook about what you

1063
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 3: saw and have heard and think about where Dylan Gabriel

1064
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 3: and this Browns quarterback situation is at.

1065
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 5: You mean, you're grading me the opportunity to keep it

1066
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 5: on the field, keeping the excellent those My god, I

1067
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 5: feel so blessed in today's climate. Yeah, Dylan Gabriel started

1068
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 5: four for four. Heck of a first drop. I've completed

1069
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 5: three passes on third down to keep that drive going.

1070
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 5: They marched down the field, not quickly, but you know, methodically,

1071
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 5: and scored a touchdown and then you know, Twitter's at blaze.

1072
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 5: Oh my god, he looks so good. Now we see

1073
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 5: why he was a third round pick. The next drive,

1074
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 5: he fails to give up on a play that he

1075
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 5: should just thrown the ball away, throws it between two targets,

1076
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 5: a tight end, and Deontay Johnson tight end kind of

1077
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 5: gives up on the ball and it ends up in

1078
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 5: the hands of rookie Andrey mcoobaugh, who returns it for

1079
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 5: a touchdown. Deontay gave up on that play, but also

1080
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 5: can't really blame him. He was behind him, he wasn't

1081
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 5: going to catch him. So the highs and lows of

1082
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 5: a first appearance for Dylan Gabriel, I thought that, you know,

1083
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 5: he's a shorter quarterback, he doesn't have the strongest arm,

1084
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 5: but he went out there and clearly understood what he

1085
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 5: was supposed to do on a play by play basis

1086
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 5: and again through with a lot of conviction. I had

1087
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 5: listened to Kevin O'Connell talk about that with J. J

1088
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 5: McCarthy this week. He's throwing with conviction, that's what we need.

1089
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 5: And I saw that from Dylan Gabriel, which was encouraging.

1090
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 5: You know, from there he finished thirteen or eighteen, one

1091
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 5: hundred and forty three yards. The stat line doesn't look

1092
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 5: as good as she to last week. Everyone's gonna throw

1093
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 5: that graphic up on social media and point to that,

1094
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 5: but overall, I thought it was a solid appearance for him,

1095
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 5: and I still have no clarity on what's going on

1096
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 5: beyond Joe Flacco with this team, which really just just

1097
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 5: kind of the Browns in a nutshell.

1098
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,919
Speaker 3: So after the game and then in a press conference later,

1099
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 3: Stefanski confirmed that he will announce the starter early this week.

1100
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 3: So you assume it's Joe Flacco, he's taking all the

1101
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 3: starting reps in the last few weeks in the joint practices,

1102
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 3: and you assume Stefanski just wants to talk to everyone

1103
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 3: after that. The question to me is just, you know,

1104
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 3: do you keep Kenny Pickett on the team or not?

1105
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 3: And what do you even do with him over the

1106
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 3: next week or two, because you've almost had a best

1107
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 3: case scenario in the preseason. Obviously you would have liked

1108
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 3: Gabriel and Shaudur to be healthier, but they both played better,

1109
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 3: I think, in the preseason than you would have expected.

1110
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 3: And so the whole point of this season, according to Stefanski,

1111
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 3: is just developing these quarterbacks. And to me, Gabriel, despite

1112
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 3: having two turnovers, which is a big despite, I really

1113
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 3: do blame the tight end on that play for totally

1114
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 3: giving up. Gabriel also shouldn't have made that throw, but

1115
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 3: I think it was white hard or whatever, like it

1116
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 3: was a it was a weird play and Gabriel forced it.

1117
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 3: But otherwise, like I thought, he was everything Kevin Stefanski

1118
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 3: wanted want in a quarterback. You right, you're right thrown

1119
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 3: with conviction. I mean, he almost has to take a

1120
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 3: crow hop to like, you know, get it in the year.

1121
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 5: Poor Man's Baker Mayfield. That's what I've said about him

1122
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 5: since they drafted him. He's poor Man's Baker Mayfield.

1123
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 3: Here's the thing, though, Like they took him in the

1124
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 3: third round because someone really wanted him, and I have

1125
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 3: to just assume Kevin Stefanski, who's the quarterback guy? Is

1126
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 3: that someone? And from after hearing that Gabriel had struggled

1127
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 3: early in camp, the fact that he reportedly played quite

1128
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 3: well in the joint practice and then in this game,

1129
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 3: like he had a really good week. I think shoulder

1130
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 3: had a really good week the week before. Good problem.

1131
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 3: And I bet they'll both play this year. I just

1132
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 3: I just bet they will. And Kenny Pickett doesn't really

1133
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 3: make much sense.

1134
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 5: So that's trade Kenny Pickett to the Cowboys. So that

1135
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 5: they don't have to lead on Joe Milton in case

1136
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 5: of emergency. How about that everybody wins.

1137
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 3: It's a pretty good idea to be honest, and and

1138
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 3: don't take less than like a fifth round pick because

1139
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 3: you know that Cowboys will overpay. Yeah, and the Browns.

1140
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 3: Browns would absolutely take a pick swap from the sixth

1141
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 3: to the seventh, just like anything, just.

1142
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 5: Because why not jack up the price? Jack just jack

1143
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 5: up the price. How would you very like to do

1144
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 5: that with Stephen Jones. We've learned that with you, Maari

1145
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 5: Cooper trade.

1146
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 3: That's a good call. That's our Browns. And Yeah, the

1147
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 3: comment by Dylan Gabriel, I believe the young man when

1148
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 3: he said this is a quote that I've given many

1149
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 3: times before. It's he almost was saying like, hey, I'm

1150
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 3: a really boring athlete who just falls into cliches like

1151
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 3: join the club. A lot of quarterbacks are like that.

1152
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 3: And I've said this any times and no one's ever

1153
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 3: And when he said that, I was like, Okay, well

1154
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 3: that makes sense, Like move on, Dylan Sampson looks like

1155
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 3: he's the starter at running back right now. And that's good.

1156
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 3: On the eagle side, they didn't play many starters. They

1157
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 3: didn't even play Tanner McKee like he's too good to

1158
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 3: even play in the in the preseason now. So not

1159
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 3: a ton of takeaways, but they still are searching for

1160
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 3: that second cornerback. And you mentioned to Coreyan Bennett earlier,

1161
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 3: and he had some nice plays and I think he's

1162
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 3: I think he's got a chance to win this starting

1163
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 3: job because Keey Ringo keeps struggling for this team. So

1164
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 3: you also mentioned Andrew mccooba with the pick six. He

1165
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 3: actually had two turnovers. He fell on a fumble, But

1166
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 3: you're trying to win a starting job as a rookie, like,

1167
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 3: that's how you do it. You get you get two turnovers.

1168
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 5: So it's basically him or Sidney Brown at that position.

1169
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 5: And I think it was statline wise, it doesn't look

1170
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 5: good beyond that, but like from the tape itself, guy's

1171
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 5: got an instinct for the ball and that's what you

1172
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 5: need out of your safety, especially that defense, so I

1173
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 5: think it's strong. Bennett had a really good pass breakup

1174
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 5: in cover where I was like, wow, the Raiders traded

1175
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 5: that guy. Again.

1176
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 3: I Likedrian Bennett. I liked him as a rookie at

1177
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 3: least I think he's like a natural. He kind of

1178
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 3: reminds me a little bit of a Dori Jackson who's

1179
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 3: also on on the Eagles. Johnny Wilson barely plays. He's

1180
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 3: kind of locked up like the fourth spot. That's why

1181
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, where is Mechi gonna fit in there? And

1182
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 3: then aj Dillon just for fantasy heads out there definitely

1183
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 3: behind Will Shipley. Not totally sure he's gonna make this team.

1184
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 5: All right.

1185
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 3: That is a lot on the Browns and the Eagles,

1186
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 3: but I had a good time. Let's go to the

1187
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 3: Patriots and the Vikings. Drake Mays come out in these

1188
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 3: two games and looked a little skittish off the top,

1189
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 3: like a little lucky not to have more turnovers than

1190
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 3: he than he's had. Not a big deal, but just

1191
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 3: on my raidar just a little jumpy and he was

1192
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 3: out there. I do like that. Trayvon Henderson has just

1193
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 3: looked awesome in both games, just in limited work. And

1194
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 3: the cool thing to me shook was that he just

1195
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 3: started taking normal reps. He's got a back in front

1196
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 3: of him on the goal line, he's doing inside runs.

1197
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 3: It wasn't like, hey, this is our third down back.

1198
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 3: It was hey, this is a real running back.

1199
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he broke a couple of arm tackles on

1200
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 5: that touchdown run. Seeing the physicality that we see from

1201
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 5: him at Ohio State, I love their backfield. If Vermandre

1202
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 5: can keep himself from fumbling the football, I think they're

1203
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 5: gonna be one of the more physical and potentially explosive,

1204
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 5: you know, classic backfields in the NFL, which I think

1205
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 5: bodes well when you're you know, entering a season with

1206
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 5: the second year quarterback on an offensive line that still

1207
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 5: has to prove itself and figure out how to gel,

1208
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 5: especially after how bad it was last year. So all

1209
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 5: of those are positives for me. I also, you know,

1210
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 5: you talk about Drake being skittish, and I agree, But

1211
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 5: there was that one play where he like broke the

1212
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 5: pocket right and threw kind of off platform to a

1213
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 5: wide open Mac Collins where I was like, oh, look

1214
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,399
Speaker 5: at that arm Like I was just like, yeah, put

1215
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 5: it on him on the sideline. So I think that,

1216
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 5: you know, we're on track for him to have a

1217
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 5: various solid year too as well. And on the Viking side,

1218
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 5: there's like not really much to say because they.

1219
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 3: Didn't selly anybody. No, there wasn't much like the Max

1220
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:03,479
Speaker 3: is it Max. Yeah, sometimes they I think they found

1221
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 3: something is Hee, a seventh round picker, undrafted guy. I

1222
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 3: think they found a guy that Kevin O'Connell's going to

1223
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 3: be excited to develop as the long term backup, and

1224
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 3: he might be the short term backup. I'm not sure,

1225
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 3: Like Sam Howell was bad in this game. Not sure

1226
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 3: like they'll keep a veteran with him. I would assume

1227
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 3: would be Howell not ripping, but uh Brosmer looks pretty good.

1228
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 3: Jalen Naylor hurt his hand in this game. They're already

1229
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 3: really thin at wide receiver. Let's get back on the field,

1230
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 3: justin Jefferson. At a certain point them saying it's not

1231
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 3: a big deal like this next week. If he's not

1232
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 3: back on the field, I start to be a little worried.

1233
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 3: And then just a couple of final Patriots notes Eft

1234
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 3: and Chisholm, who Jordan also says a little something to

1235
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 3: him like he's a big winner in this training camp.

1236
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 3: In this game, I think he goes six for seventy one,

1237
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 3: had two big joint practices. He's making this team, So

1238
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 3: they're just they're not going to risk putting him through

1239
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 3: waivers him. We talked about this big wide receiver group

1240
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 3: coming into camp. To me, the two biggest winners have

1241
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 3: been ft and Chisholm rookie undrafted and Kaishaon Boody, who

1242
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 3: I just didn't think was gonna be a guy who

1243
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 3: cemented himself as a playmaker who's gonna start for this team.

1244
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 3: But that is where he's at. He is going to

1245
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 3: start for this team. Also, their seventh round pick at tackle,

1246
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 3: Marcus Bryant, like is carving out a pretty big role

1247
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 3: either as their swing tackle or maybe even as a starter.

1248
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 3: Kyle Williams, my favorite young receiver on this team who's

1249
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 3: been pretty good too, has a concussion, so he probably

1250
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 3: is gonna miss this week of practice. Let's take one

1251
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 3: more quick break and we'll wrap up on the other side.

1252
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 3: We're taping this Sunday night, Shuk. I fear that predicting

1253
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 3: the Colts quarterback battle will potentially get out of date soon,

1254
00:58:54,840 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 3: but I have a strong gut feeling it's going to

1255
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones and I don't like it. And the following

1256
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:10,919
Speaker 3: quote from stike In is part of that feeling. Let's listen.

1257
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: It's everything right, the operation, the communication in the huddle,

1258
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: the checks, getting guys on the same page. The consistency

1259
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: of all that obviously is going to play a big

1260
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 1: factor in this. I've seen obviously three weeks of it,

1261
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: so I'd like to have a decision here shortly.

1262
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 3: Okay, that was stike in being asked, what's going to

1263
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 3: go into it? Consistency operation. It just sounds like Daniel Jones.

1264
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 3: And then I thought about the way he did this

1265
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 3: game shook that. You remember that they were going to

1266
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 3: left to flip flop because Richardson didn't really get his chance.

1267
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,959
Speaker 3: Well in the end, Daniel Jones still got to play

1268
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 3: two hoole series and play the first quarter when Tyler

1269
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 3: Warren was on the field, when Michael Pittman was on

1270
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 3: the field, when Quintin Nelson was on the field. You

1271
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 3: know who's on the field with him, Daniel Jones. And

1272
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 3: I just think about the money they gave him. I

1273
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 3: don't like it, but it just makes me feel like

1274
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 3: the fix was in for Daniel Jones this whole time.

1275
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 3: That a tie goes to Daniel Jones, you would think

1276
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 3: it'd be a tie goes to Richardson. You know, the

1277
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 3: conspiracy theories shook that they were setting up sur to

1278
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 3: fail a little bit in Cleveland. Yeah, that might be

1279
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 3: a little more true in Indianapolis. Yeah, I mean I

1280
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 3: don't think they had.

1281
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 5: I don't think David o'java was an inside job, like

1282
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 5: you know, knocking Richardson out.

1283
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 3: Of the game in I'm not saying that either, but

1284
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought that up. I think that was

1285
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 3: the moment. I do think that was the moment. Yeah,

1286
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 3: that was the moment he lost his job.

1287
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 5: And it's it is a bummer because if you look

1288
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 5: at it just from snap by snap, it's very close.

1289
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 5: Like neither has been great and I would lean Richardson,

1290
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 5: but I agree with you when you read through the

1291
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 5: lines between the lines of what he's saying there, which

1292
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 5: is this is their big gripe with him in the past,

1293
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 5: was that he wasn't prepping like a pro, he didn't

1294
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 5: handle the job like a pro. He asked out of

1295
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 5: play in Houston last year because he was tired. And

1296
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 5: if that's what he's emphasizing at this point, yeah, it

1297
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 5: leans toward Daniel Jones. I hate it because I think

1298
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 5: their ceiling is low. I think it's pretty low. Regardless

1299
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 5: unless Richardson, like took a big step forward. But at

1300
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 5: least Richardson has that in him. I don't know if

1301
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 5: Daniel Jones does. But again, I feel like Stichen is

1302
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 5: feeling the pressure and if anything, he wants somebody that

1303
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 5: he can count on to at least get everything organized

1304
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 5: and set up correctly operationally and then let the chips

1305
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 5: fall where they may, right, Like.

1306
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones started this game with two ugly passes and

1307
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 3: it got me thinking, this is what I'm talking about about,

1308
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 3: not the fix, but about pushing the scale a little bit.

1309
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,919
Speaker 3: Then he came back out for another drive, like you didn't.

1310
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 3: They didn't want it to end on that, And to

1311
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 3: be fair, Daniel Jones had a couple of really nice

1312
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 3: throws on the second drive. But to me, it's very

1313
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones that you win the job with a couple

1314
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 3: really nice throws on like a long, pretty boring field

1315
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 3: goal drive. You know, it was like, I don't know,

1316
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 3: Like Anthony Richardson also played like fairly well in this

1317
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 3: game after a slow start, but he was up, he

1318
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 3: was down. Just everything you hear makes it sound like

1319
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 3: these two guys have kind of been exactly what you

1320
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 3: would expect. And I just got to thinking, like, I

1321
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 3: think they know Anthony Richardson so well. If they believed

1322
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 3: in him, they would have been backing him a little more,

1323
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It's kind of been a

1324
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 3: worst case scenario because both guys are just like the

1325
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 3: sea version of themselves, which is like, no one is

1326
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 3: really winning.

1327
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 5: But what did you expect when you brought this pairing

1328
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 5: into camp?

1329
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 3: Right?

1330
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 5: And you thought Daniel Jones was just suddenly gonna turn

1331
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 5: over a new leaf because he's wearing a horsehoe on

1332
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 5: the side of his helmet. Now he's still the same

1333
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 5: guy he's been for the last few years. That was

1334
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 5: one of the things I jotted down while watching the

1335
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 5: game live. I'm just like, yeah, still the same guy.

1336
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 5: Oh that was a nice throats. That's there it is.

1337
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 5: That's Daniel Jones, same guy. And it just sucks because

1338
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 5: I would like more for Coltsonville.

1339
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 3: They'll both play in the end, right, I mean, what

1340
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 3: are they? Right? I was really taken by James Boyd

1341
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 3: to the Athletic had a great tidbit in a joint

1342
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 3: practice right up between the Giants and the Colts and

1343
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 3: it was Xavier McKinney, former Giant, former Daniel Jones teammate

1344
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 3: yelling at Daniel Jones as Daniel Jones just dinked and

1345
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 3: dunked down the field and kept throwing short on third

1346
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 3: and long in when they're going against the Packers, and

1347
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 3: he just yells at him, DJ throw it deep, like

1348
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 3: show off that arm. And then he did it, and uh,

1349
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 3: he like he throws it short again and he yelled

1350
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 3: yells at him again, and I'm like, man, you got

1351
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 3: Zaviy McKinney just yelling at you for being a dink

1352
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 3: and dunk merchant. Meanwhile, they had a ton of injuries

1353
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 3: in this game. Their offensive line has not played well.

1354
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 3: If you if you think I'm down on the Colts,

1355
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 3: I am. I am. Josh Downs got hurt in this game.

1356
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 3: They're maybe their best receiver. Let's talk about the Packers.

1357
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 3: Do you have Do you have anything to say on

1358
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 3: the Packers? They sat twenty nine players in this game,

1359
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 3: so at least from this game there probably isn't like

1360
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 3: a ton Yeah.

1361
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 5: I mean, their leading rusher was izy Abanaconda. And the

1362
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 5: main takeaway for me was, oh my god, this operation

1363
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 5: is so damn sloppy. This game was an absolute drag,

1364
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 5: like okay, I had two games on it once. They

1365
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 5: had twenty three combined accepted penalties for almost two hundred

1366
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 5: penalty yards. And the Packers, I mean, they robbed themselves

1367
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 5: of multiple scoring opportunities. Taylor Olgerzma, the Canadian quarterback who

1368
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 5: won the Canadian Heisman, throws a beautiful pass over the

1369
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 5: middle to a tight end who catches it on the

1370
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 5: goal line. Tough grab for a touchdown, wiped out by

1371
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 5: illegal formation. Same player. I had two illegal formation penalties

1372
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 5: on the same drive. I'm just like, I know, Matt

1373
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 5: Lafleur's gonna be pulling his hair out right now because.

1374
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 3: It's Anthony Belton. He had five penalties in the first quarter.

1375
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 3: You don't see that too much. Second round pick. He

1376
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 3: got shooed out by Lafleur. Lafl did reveal some thing

1377
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 3: over the weekend, though, in a press coverage I think

1378
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 3: it was Sunday saying the left tackle is a competition now.

1379
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 3: And Jordan Morgan, who started their first round pick from

1380
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 3: a year ago, played at left tackle in this game.

1381
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 3: It sounds to me like they like what they are

1382
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 3: seeing out of Jordan Morgan, and maybe they're going to

1383
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 3: elevate him over Rashad Walker, who's been their starter the

1384
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 3: last couple of years. So a little nugget there. And

1385
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 3: then Marshaun Lloyd, their running back was going to be

1386
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 3: the backup to Josh Jacobs. So if you're drafting like

1387
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 3: you can't trust this guy. Every time he plays, he

1388
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 3: gets hurt and he had a hamstring injury in this game.

1389
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 3: Let's go to the Texans. We mentioned them earlier in

1390
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 3: terms of their John Metchi trade, but they did play

1391
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 3: a game and they won. They won easy, twenty to

1392
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 3: three against the Panthers. Nick Chubb getting the start at

1393
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 3: running back shook and the offensive line showed some good

1394
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 3: physicality and Chubb it's interesting to me that he was

1395
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 3: first up, played all the snaps really with the starters,

1396
01:05:58,440 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 3: and when CJ.

1397
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 5: Strad was out there, yeah, there was a sequence where

1398
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 5: it was just like Chub up the middle, Chub up

1399
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 5: the middle, Chob up the middle. So it kind of

1400
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 5: robs you of the ability to judge whether he is

1401
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 5: getting some of his juice back. I thought he looked

1402
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 5: better than he did last year. He still doesn't look

1403
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 5: like the same old Nick Chubb. I don't think he

1404
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 5: ever is going to but he was a little quicker

1405
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 5: than he was last year, and you know, five for

1406
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 5: twenty five I think, you know, so five yards a

1407
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 5: pop that solid in a limited outing. I also really

1408
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 5: like what they have in Woody Marx, Like we've we've

1409
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 5: talked about, oh, what's the running back situation with Joe

1410
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 5: mixing out and Nick Chubb's like the lead replacement. I

1411
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 5: think what he Marx is gonna is going to factor

1412
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 5: into how they operate on the ground this season. CJ.

1413
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 5: Stroud's out there for a little bit, six of a

1414
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 5: for forty four yards, leads a nice touchdown drive, and

1415
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 5: Nico Collins is on the field at that time as well,

1416
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 5: So you know, I mean, it's they're playing the Panthers.

1417
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 5: The Panthers looked bad offensively against the Texans defense they're playing,

1418
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 5: and the Texans defense is going to make you look

1419
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 5: most teams look bad. So I looked low ceiling for

1420
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 5: the Panthers, low bar and that just not a lot

1421
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 5: to really glean from this game overall, because before long,

1422
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 5: Keaton's Lobas was in the game.

1423
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I watched as many of these running backs as

1424
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 3: I could this weekend, like just you know, just their

1425
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 3: snaps and because I agree with our friend Chris Westling,

1426
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 3: who would always say, you know, in preseason you can

1427
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 3: see the rookie runners that pop run. You know, it's

1428
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 3: not that hard to scout runners relatively, and I think

1429
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 3: you can see their ability against backups or not. Like

1430
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 3: Caleb Johnson to me, at least right now is running

1431
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 3: a little like not what I want to see. Yet.

1432
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 3: I think the guy I liked the best was Woody Marx,

1433
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 3: like of the like lower guys, like great lateral quickness,

1434
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 3: was doing some good inside runs, not just they're done.

1435
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 3: I mean he's smaller, but he runs hard. So if

1436
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 3: you get mixing back healthier, if it's a Chubb or

1437
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 3: Pierce combo with Marx, that'll work. And in general, I

1438
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 3: know our friend Seth Pain has just liked the cohesion,

1439
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 3: the aggression. The offensive line just looks more competent. That's

1440
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 3: all we're looking for, especially in the running game. Does

1441
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 3: it look more continent competent, And they looked pretty good here.

1442
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 3: Jayden Higgins also played a little bit with the first

1443
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 3: team offense, not a ton their second round pick, and man,

1444
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 3: his feet really moved well at that size. On the

1445
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 3: Panthers side, Yeah, you mentioned it. The first team for

1446
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 3: the Panthers had negative yardage in two series and then

1447
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 3: they just took Bryce hang out. There's just like, we

1448
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 3: don't want to mess with that. Andy Dalton hurt his

1449
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 3: elbow in this game, and so we don't know his situation.

1450
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,600
Speaker 3: And I can't remember. I think I mentioned this on

1451
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:36,799
Speaker 3: a previous show. Nick Scourton, the draft pick for the Panthers,

1452
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 3: had suffered a collapsed lung on Thursday's practice and it

1453
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 3: might be a little more serious than they realized, and

1454
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 3: we'll see what his status is. But the Panthers signed

1455
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 3: Bryce Perkins, who I think was like the UFL MVP

1456
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 3: or something, which does not bode well for Andy Dalton.

1457
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 3: Or maybe they just need another arm to show up

1458
01:08:58,400 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 3: at camp.

1459
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 5: No, it's just it's just the arm for camp unless

1460
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 5: unless the Dalton thinks serious. Don't think it's seriously. It's

1461
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 5: just an It's the Tyler Huntley of the Panthers. Essentially,

1462
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:10,639
Speaker 5: they have another preseason game to play.

1463
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 3: Now that I think about it. Did John Metchi trade

1464
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 3: makes more sense to because Xavier Hutchinson was playing with

1465
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 3: the starters actually over Jaydon Higgins, because Higgins is kind

1466
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 3: of Nico Collins his backup, but Hutchinson is more of

1467
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 3: like a slot guy, and so maybe he is making

1468
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 3: this team if you're into that. Rico Dowdell was their

1469
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 3: third round, their third down back behind Chewba Hubbard. Let's

1470
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:36,640
Speaker 3: go to the Dolphins and the Lions, two teams that

1471
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 3: did not play that many starters, which is good Shook

1472
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 3: because frankly, this show is going a little too long.

1473
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 3: I don't know. People love this show. This show people

1474
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 3: people just tell me they they love the Sunday Night Show.

1475
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 3: I think we can we can call two things from

1476
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 3: this game though. Number One, Kyle Allen is the backup

1477
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 3: quarterback for the Lions. He's just easily outplayed handed Okre.

1478
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 3: And number two, I've seen enough of Isaac to slah.

1479
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 3: I might have to put him into the preseason MVP

1480
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 3: mix just for how he's made me feel. It's more

1481
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 3: of a feel award.

1482
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I get real juiced up to watch the lines

1483
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 5: in the preseason just because I know Isaac just Law

1484
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 5: is out there, and frankly, I'm gonna be just as

1485
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 5: excited to see how he fits in this offense in

1486
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:16,640
Speaker 5: the regular season, because I think he's going to make

1487
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 5: a difference. I love his tape at Arkansas, like this

1488
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 5: was one of my favorite guys coming out of the

1489
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 5: draft that ended up being a mid round guy. And

1490
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 5: it really is, you know, exciting and a little bit

1491
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 5: satisfying to see them carry over and instantly produce even

1492
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 5: in the preseason. He's just a natural fit. I think

1493
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 5: he's going to be great for them. I had another point,

1494
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 5: I think Zach Wilson is fine as your backup quarterback.

1495
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 5: He looked fay, he looked comfortable in that offense. I

1496
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 5: think he's fine.

1497
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 3: A little bit about quentinn Ewers bounce back to we

1498
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 3: mentioned that he went five for eighteen, so it's only

1499
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 3: fair to mention he looked much better this week. Jonah

1500
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 3: Sabaia and it was the only starter out there with

1501
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:52,680
Speaker 3: the Dolphins and has struggled a little bit in the

1502
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 3: preseason in terms of their offensive lineman. That he was

1503
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 3: a second round pick. I believe the Patriots would have

1504
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 3: taken him over Travon Hender if he had been available.

1505
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 3: According to just piecing together a few reports, that might

1506
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 3: prove to work out well for the Patries just because

1507
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 3: Henderson looks like a good player. Devon ah Chan has

1508
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 3: a soft tissue injury and they say it could be

1509
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 3: days or it could be weeks. That's what Mike McDaniel

1510
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 3: said about both a Chan and Zach Sealer, who are

1511
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 3: both really important players. Obviously, Tyreek Hill also has been

1512
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:30,680
Speaker 3: out with an oblique injury. They didn't play starters, Like

1513
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 3: I mentioned Cam Smith. By the way, the former second

1514
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 3: round pick barely played. I think he is going to

1515
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 3: get cut and Jalen Wright seems pretty locked into that,

1516
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 3: like Raheem Moster RB two role, maybe RB one if

1517
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 3: a Chan isn't healthy.

1518
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I like what Jayalen Wright brings to the field.

1519
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 5: By the way, I keep an eye on him. I

1520
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 5: think he's an explosive guy that people don't really pay

1521
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 5: attention to because a Chan's in that backfield. Keep an

1522
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 5: eye on him.

1523
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 3: Taslad's going to be a factor. I had my doubts

1524
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 3: and Jeremiah was talking him up, and I think he's

1525
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 3: gonna matter in his season, which is a big surprise.

1526
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 3: This is what the preseason's for to learn nuggets like

1527
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 3: that because you can't count on that guy. Didn't see

1528
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 3: a lot of them, but he's in the right offense

1529
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 3: and man, he makes some awesome plays. We're going all

1530
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 3: the way back to Friday Night now Seahawks Chiefs. I

1531
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 3: don't know if I've ever seen a first round pick

1532
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 3: at guard Shook have a flashier debut. I guess this

1533
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 3: was his second game, but a flashier preseason game. Then

1534
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 3: Gray's Abel grays Abels is out there making crazy blocks

1535
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 3: in space, and suddenly the Seattle offensive line it's fixed,

1536
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 3: at least in the middle of August.

1537
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 5: Was it Nate Tice who posted the reel of all

1538
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 5: this great blocking? Yeah, oh, and so I'm watching it

1539
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 5: and I'm like, well that was good. Wow, that was great. Wow,

1540
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 5: he could really move. He's a load and he can

1541
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 5: really move and he's great on impact. And then it

1542
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 5: hits me, like on the third clip, I'm like, this

1543
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 5: is all zone runs. And then I went, oh, click,

1544
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 5: Cubiac throw c It's the class of Kubiak offense right there,

1545
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 5: like of course, and it all made sense to me,

1546
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 5: and it made sense why they drafted him because he

1547
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:04,560
Speaker 5: has those physical tools. This was an offensive line that

1548
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 5: was terrible last year, and you don't make it into

1549
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 5: a stellar offensive line overnight. But getting a guard that

1550
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:12,520
Speaker 5: can play that well, even if it's just in the preseason.

1551
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 5: Is a big step forward, especially for how they want

1552
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 5: to approach this offense and how you want to run

1553
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 5: out of the zone and you want to have the

1554
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 5: back to the quarterbacks, back to the line of scription

1555
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:23,640
Speaker 5: run play action stuff like that. Big win for them,

1556
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 5: and yeah, a show off type of performance for him

1557
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 5: against Kansas City and you know the prime time there

1558
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 5: LIWLE West Coast primetime. I'm excited for him.

1559
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 3: It was preposterous how much they dominated running the ball

1560
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 3: against the Chiefs. So it was something like one hundred

1561
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 3: and nineteen yards I think in the first quarter. They

1562
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 3: just they did everything Like Sam Darnold was in there

1563
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 3: and was perfect, but all he had to do was

1564
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 3: do a couple you know, rollouts and boot actions and

1565
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 3: just throw these easy passes because they ran so well.

1566
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 3: They bring Jalen Milroe out for a toush push on

1567
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 3: third and short at midfield with Donald on the field. Yeah, like,

1568
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 3: give me some more. It was definitely giving Clint Kubiak

1569
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 3: early September Saints vibes. But I'll take it. Like the

1570
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,719
Speaker 3: way that this offensive line has been in the past.

1571
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 3: They were in Unison, they were playing aggressive, They're healthier,

1572
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 3: they have Abe Lucas I think is a really important

1573
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 3: player for them, and so to me, you know, it's

1574
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 3: just the preseason, but reason for optimism. They also got

1575
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 3: Ken Walker back at practice on Sunday, and then Ucenu

1576
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 3: Nuosu passed is physical. They're very good pass rusher who's

1577
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 3: been on the NFI list, I believe. And now we'll

1578
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 3: start practicing with the team. So some good injury news there.

1579
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 3: The Chiefs weren't playing their starters and yet they had

1580
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 3: four guys hurt in this game that I think we're

1581
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,879
Speaker 3: set to make the team really depth, mostly in the secondary,

1582
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 3: Mike Edwards, Nase Johnson, Noel Williams. So we'll see not

1583
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 3: a lot of takeaways for me with the Chiefs other

1584
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 3: than Taekwon Thornton is making this team. He's making plays

1585
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 3: and he's playing as either the fourth or the fifth receiver.

1586
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 3: I don't think sky Moore is making this team, which

1587
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 3: it's all he's a catch twenty two shook. He had

1588
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 3: a punt return touchdown at the end of the game,

1589
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 3: long play like maybe one of his best plays as

1590
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 3: a pro. And then but it's like the catch twenty two,

1591
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 3: it's like Kyle Dugger had an interception to end the

1592
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:14,560
Speaker 3: Patriots game. Like, but he was playing. That's great, but

1593
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 3: you're playing in the final seconds of the fourth quarter.

1594
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:19,680
Speaker 3: That's actually more bad than good.

1595
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 5: Ultimately, Yeah, I actually am surprised that. Look, I'm a

1596
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 5: Mac guy and sky Moore was a very productive receiver

1597
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:30,639
Speaker 5: at Western Michigan and I was hoping for the best

1598
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 5: for him, And I'm surprised that the experiment lasted this long.

1599
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 5: So not at all shocked that he's not going to

1600
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 5: make this team. He just hasn't. He's never found us.

1601
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 5: And you know, I feel like receivers like that. You know,

1602
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:43,759
Speaker 5: when you come to the league with like elite level talent,

1603
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 5: you can find a way to fit in Xavier Worthy,

1604
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 5: you know, elite level speed type, you can find a

1605
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:49,679
Speaker 5: way to fit into the Chiefs offense. When you don't

1606
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 5: have quite that, I think it's harder for you to

1607
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 5: find your role within Kansas City's offense, especially team with

1608
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:56,640
Speaker 5: such high expectations. So I don't think this is the

1609
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:58,679
Speaker 5: end for him in his NFL career by any means.

1610
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 5: But I do think that they're pairing you know, soured

1611
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 5: a while ago.

1612
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:06,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they have a fourth round pick Jalen Royals,

1613
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 3: who's making this team? And then you know who does

1614
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 3: have elite speed shook former Bill Belichick's second round pick,

1615
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 3: Taekwon Thornton's that's what he's got and he's making he's

1616
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 3: making plays. Let's move on to our final game. Titans Falcons.

1617
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 3: Falcons sat everyone, They sat their backups. They keep doing this.

1618
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:29,679
Speaker 3: It's interesting to me that James Pearce and Jalen Walker

1619
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 3: keep playing when no one else is. I don't know

1620
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 3: if they just want to see more. He is playing

1621
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 3: a lot. Jalen Walker actually was hurt, I believe not playing,

1622
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 3: but but Pierce got a pressure in this game. Not

1623
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 3: many takeaways for me. DJ Sharks seems like he is

1624
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:46,759
Speaker 3: not making this team. If you're curious, and Casey Casey

1625
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:52,680
Speaker 3: Washington is Kim Ward did play not amazing shook, but

1626
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 3: he did have one really great throw to Van Jefferson

1627
01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 3: and Van Jefferson dropped dropped, which.

1628
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:02,760
Speaker 5: And I hate and don't want to be a hater,

1629
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 5: but as I watched it, I went, ah, there's Van

1630
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 5: Jefferson dropping a great ball again.

1631
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 3: Right.

1632
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 5: He also had a really nice throw and I know

1633
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 5: he completed like two to seven passes, so there's not

1634
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 5: a lot to work with, right, but it was I

1635
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:14,600
Speaker 5: think it was might be the Ward's first throw of

1636
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 5: the game. Pocket collapses to the right and he's like

1637
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 5: backed up in the shadow of his own goalpost. He

1638
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 5: slides out of the pocket, feels the pressure, keeps his

1639
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:24,599
Speaker 5: eyes downfield, and hits one of those like wrist flick

1640
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 5: throws that you saw him do at Miami a lot

1641
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 5: to Elic Iomanor and for a thirty five yard game.

1642
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 5: And I'm like, oh, yeah, there it is. That's it.

1643
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 5: Let me see more of that. But my biggest concern

1644
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 5: that I came away with after watching this game, like

1645
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 5: I could lose sleep over this realistically, are they going

1646
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 5: to ever have any guys who get separation, because if

1647
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:45,880
Speaker 5: this is the situation for them all year, it's going

1648
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 5: to be rough for him. And it can't. It's not

1649
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 5: even gonna be his fault throughout that game. And I

1650
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 5: know Ridley and Lockett are not, you know, out there

1651
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 5: making plays and everything, but it just didn't see any

1652
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:57,200
Speaker 5: separation from these guys. You gotta get open to take

1653
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 5: advantage of your first round pick, and you're number one

1654
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:00,120
Speaker 5: overall picking camp.

1655
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 3: I am worried he's gonna have a Caleb Williams type

1656
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 3: of season that everything gets blown up. Au man Or

1657
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 3: that's what what we settled on for pronunciation me and.

1658
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 5: I think you're a different one.

1659
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 3: The Yeah, he does look good. He might be wide

1660
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 3: receiver two on this team. I actually wouldn't be surprised

1661
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 3: the fourth round rookie behind Kevin Ridley. They put him

1662
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 3: in motion. I think they're going to use him quite

1663
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 3: a bit. They're also going to use the rookie Gunner Helm.

1664
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 3: Let's let's wrap the show with at least one more highlights.

1665
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 2: First and ten for the twenty five of the Falcons.

1666
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 2: So you get a shot down the field to the

1667
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 2: end zone. Helm touchdown twenty five yards from Brendon Allen

1668
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 2: to Gunner Helm.

1669
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 3: That's what the preseason is all about. Gunner Helm does

1670
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 3: mossen people week after week. Weight room rookie tight end.

1671
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 3: Let's go.

1672
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 5: Weight room, show the guns off, get up there body

1673
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 5: two guys is to make a grab on the goal line.

1674
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 5: That's preseason. That's what it's all about.

1675
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:03,599
Speaker 3: Right there.

1676
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 5: It is.

1677
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:09,680
Speaker 3: Look, we're we're rolling here. I mentioned Jeremiah like, we've

1678
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 3: got two forties and free agents talking about the AFC

1679
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 3: South NFC South. Coming up this week, We've got a

1680
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 3: full slate of NFL Daily shows we actually shook. Only

1681
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 3: have one more of these preseason recaps next Sunday. So

1682
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 3: the preseason, they say it's six weeks, if you know,

1683
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 3: from the very beginning of practice to the end, it

1684
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 3: feels even longer. But we're getting close to the regulars.

1685
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 5: It used to be six games.

1686
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it's too much. We're going to be

1687
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 3: back in the studio. I'm gonna be talking to my

1688
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 3: friend JP Acosta. We're going to talk news. We're gonna

1689
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 3: talk the most intriguing offenses in the league. And I'm

1690
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 3: not gonna put the Titans there. But like when Gunner

1691
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 3: Helm is just mossing people, that is that's football being back.