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Speaker 2: What up Doug Gottlieb Show in the Bonus Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio A welcome in m hmmm. So, uh, this is

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Speaker 2: the year for this is this is the time for

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Speaker 2: preseason poles in college basketball and it's it's always it's

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Speaker 2: again new experiences being on the inside I want to

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Speaker 2: share with you. So the Horizon League pole came out

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Speaker 2: and my team was picked dead last by a good amount.

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Speaker 2: And what's crazy about it is my best returning player,

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Speaker 2: Marcus Hall, was picked first team All League. Now what

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Speaker 2: that must say? That says to me? First of all,

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Speaker 2: I mean again, we're voting and I got to vote too,

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Speaker 2: and uh, it's it's like SIDS writers. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what the compilation is. It's really interesting. But it would

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Speaker 2: make no sense that the best player on what you've

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Speaker 2: picked as the worst team would be first team All

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Speaker 2: League when there's eleven teams. That's not going to happen, right,

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Speaker 2: And Marcus is tremendous and he's going to have a

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Speaker 2: big year. And so I don't make many guarantees. I

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Speaker 2: guarantee this. We're not going to finish last. We're not.

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Speaker 2: I have a pretty good feel for who I do

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Speaker 2: think would be bottom of the league. But again, I'll

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Speaker 2: let it play out. Everybody has a brand new team,

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Speaker 2: minds new ish but not brand new, and we feel

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Speaker 2: pretty good about where we are. We'd be very good

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Speaker 2: then you pick me last, well, then I just I

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Speaker 2: just again use it as motivation, which we will. But

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Speaker 2: to the outsider as if maybe we don't know what

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Speaker 2: we're doing. When we revamped the roster, vamped the coaching staff,

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Speaker 2: compared to last year's team, is far more talented, will

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Speaker 2: be far better coach, will be far better prepared, will

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Speaker 2: be better. But I want this on the record on

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Speaker 2: the Doug Gottlieb Show. We'll do it on all ball

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Speaker 2: as well on It's great fuel. I know no one

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Speaker 2: knows about anybody's team because everybody's new, and you recruit

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Speaker 2: guys that are junior college guys, D two, D three guys.

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Speaker 2: I got it. I hear you. But I also know

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Speaker 2: Let's get to the Foxes and Now every day at

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Speaker 2: this time the Doug Gottlieb Show. In the Bonus Podcast,

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Speaker 2: we we share with you a thought or a rant,

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Speaker 2: or an argument or something previously today on Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: One or Fox Sports Radio. Here's Dan Patrick from The

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Speaker 2: Dan Patrick Show talking about baseball's postseason.

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Speaker 3: I had a baseball analyst who said, how's baseball and

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Speaker 3: baseball fans going to react if you have the Blue

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Speaker 3: we going to be like, oh, what are we doing

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Speaker 3: You know, it's you're getting to see some good baseball.

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Speaker 2: But in order to win the series, they win the series.

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Speaker 4: Well, kind of kick this around, you know earlier in

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Speaker 7: Yeah, in the last they've only played how many halves

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Speaker 2: I think what Nick points out is sort of what

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Speaker 2: Let's find out who are What's annoying? Jason Stewart.

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Speaker 8: with regard to this show and that show, right because

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Speaker 8: You think it's a trap word for broadcasters trying to

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Speaker 8: with that yesterday on the broadcast. And then as Awful

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Speaker 2: Everything went over. You pronounce his last name, you cut

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Speaker 2: first Whittler. Oh, well, he's the master schlittler.

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Speaker 1: A right, Let's go to a break, get hit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it's there, it's apparently there, Rizzuto, but I didn't

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Speaker 2: Big Poppy can get away with that, right, he can

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Speaker 8: Do you get the sentiment behind Burkhart saying let's go

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Speaker 8: to a break? Yes, there is a there's a very

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Speaker 8: dicey aspect to using that word on live broadcast. It's

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Speaker 8: not one of the seven deadly words that you're not

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Speaker 8: the fine is running about five ninety five. It's not

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Speaker 8: Is, well does Bryant wis in. I don't agree with

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Speaker 8: This is football. That play clearly cost them the game.

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Speaker 8: The statement in the NFL doesn't even refer to the contact.

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Speaker 8: it's the gen zification of sports. Right, Like that bump,

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Speaker 8: if you were to do it in basketball, that bump

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Speaker 8: There's exactly zero harm meant or harm.

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Speaker 2: He's fucking wrong right again. And I think what Dez

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Speaker 8: The bump was neither mentioned by the NFL statement about

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Speaker 8: And by the way, I gave gannon Way too much

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Speaker 8: We see that under a different prism. Right, It's not

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Speaker 8: But I don't think this was something he just woke

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Speaker 8: Aaron Judge had a three run homer.

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Speaker 8: the blue check marks do on Twitter, they tend to overreact.

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Speaker 8: There's there seems to be a what do you call that?

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Speaker 2: No, it's a bias. It's a it's a recency bias.

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Speaker 8: Recency bias. Okay, you have to come up with something

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Speaker 8: I'm not doing this to make fun of cow heard,

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Speaker 4: Last night, Aaron Judge, Yeah, finally had his moment.

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Speaker 8: This was a cool moment on Tuesday night. Drastic overreactions

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Speaker 2: I actually thought of something totally different than you. I

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Speaker 2: he proved himself in that amount of pressure packed situation

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Speaker 8: So we got the overreaction to Aaron Judge, the overreaction

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Speaker 2: Hmm hmmm. I'm gonna go with probably the overreaction to

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Speaker 1: Why are we doing this?

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Speaker 5: I do.

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Speaker 1: Because we can.

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Speaker 2: Let's get them be Cosby can. Here's obj.

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Speaker 10: No, there's somebody a bit of me that like feel

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Speaker 10: You can't tell me that this was the best trade

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Speaker 8: It's how I feel.

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Speaker 10: like your seventh on the list, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 10: Like that's how you know, like stats is cool, and

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Speaker 2: But I also think if you look back when he

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Speaker 2: I just we can play it for you because we can't.

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