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Speaker 4: But we got so much to talk about. Kamala Harris
Speaker 4: wins her first debate, Donald Trump shits the debate bed,
Speaker 4: and JD Van.
Speaker 3: Shits the letter box.
Speaker 4: So let's get right into it with our continuing coverage
Speaker 4: of Indecision twenty twenty four. Last night, Kamala Harris and
Speaker 4: Donald Trump took to the debate stay to make their
Speaker 4: cases to Taylor Allison Swift and whoever else happened to
Speaker 4: be watching. It was not a good night for Trump
Speaker 4: in terms of personal tragedies for him. I'd put it
Speaker 4: somewhere between losing the twenty twenty election and the day
Speaker 4: Fox Knews started letting female anchors wear paints somewhere in there.
Speaker 4: And there was one moment that was probably the best
Speaker 4: example of just how badly Trump did at the debate
Speaker 4: in Springfield.
Speaker 5: They're eating the dogs, the people that came in.
Speaker 6: They're eating the cats, they're eating they're eating the pets
Speaker 6: of the people that live there.
Speaker 3: Sir, The question was state your name now.
Speaker 4: You were one of the many people last night wondering
Speaker 4: why Trump was shouting.
Speaker 3: They're eating the dogs. Explain.
Speaker 4: It started with a random Facebook post where someone accused
Speaker 4: a Haitian immigrant of stealing and eating their neighbor's daughter's
Speaker 4: friend's cat. And if there's one thing we know about
Speaker 4: Facebook posts, it's that they're always rigorously fact checked. But
Speaker 4: as with any unfounded rumor on Facebook, obviously this got
Speaker 4: picked up by the right wing establishment and spread across
Speaker 4: the Internet. Even jd Vance promoted it while simultaneously acknowledging
Speaker 4: it was completely unfounded. You might say he jumped in
Speaker 4: the misinformation pool but kept his shirt on, which brings
Speaker 4: us to last night. If there's one thing we know
Speaker 4: about a racist conspiracy theory, it's that Donald Trump's brain
Speaker 4: will swallow it whole, like a hungry immigrant at pat Co's.
Speaker 4: And that's how a random Facebook post turned into Donald
Speaker 4: Trump's campaign slogan.
Speaker 3: They're eating cats and dogs.
Speaker 4: So it seemed like Trump had a rough performance, but
Speaker 4: you know what, that's just my opinion. You can also
Speaker 4: tell that Donald Trump was the loser because he did
Speaker 4: all the things losers do when they lose Number one,
Speaker 4: complaining about the refs.
Speaker 5: I thought they were very unfair, the moderators, everybody did.
Speaker 5: I thought it was terrible. From the standpoint of ABC,
Speaker 5: it was three to one. It was a rigged deal,
Speaker 5: as I assumed it would be, because when you looked
Speaker 5: at the fact that they were correcting everything and not
Speaker 5: correcting with her.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, they were correcting you because of the things
Speaker 4: you were saying.
Speaker 3: That's barely fact checking.
Speaker 4: The moderators were reacting like normal human beings react when
Speaker 4: you hear the craziest shit you've ever heard. If you
Speaker 4: were at a cocktail party and your friend said trans
Speaker 4: immigrants are eating dogs in Ohio, you would say, what
Speaker 4: the you talking about, Stu, No, they aren't. You wouldn't
Speaker 4: be like, Okay, thank you for that, Let's move on
Speaker 4: to foreign policy. You know what, it wasn't just blaming
Speaker 4: the refs. Another way you know Trump lost is that
Speaker 4: he was accusing his opponent of cheating.
Speaker 5: They had a rig show with somebody that maybe even
Speaker 5: had the answers. I mean, I'll be honest. I watched
Speaker 5: her talk and I said, you know, she seems awfully
Speaker 5: familiar with the questions.
Speaker 4: Okay, you think she was cheating because she seemed familiar
Speaker 4: with the questions. It's a presidential debate. They always ask
Speaker 4: the same questions. It's like being suspicious that someone knows
Speaker 4: all the words to take me out to the ballgame.
Speaker 4: How will you fix the economy? What's your stance on abortion?
Speaker 4: Do you promise not to overthrow the government? Standard boilerplate
Speaker 4: debate questions. Meanwhile, Trump seemed awfully familiar with the questions
Speaker 4: that nobody asked, like who's eating all the cats in Springfield, Ohio?
Speaker 4: But maybe the best way you know Trump lost the
Speaker 4: debate is that he repeatedly insisted he won.
Speaker 5: I think it was the best debate I've ever personally.
Speaker 6: That we're getting polls that showed ninety two to six,
Speaker 6: eighty eight to eleven.
Speaker 5: Every single poll last night had me winning like ninety
Speaker 5: to ten. We had c span at one point was
Speaker 5: a eighty to twenty, and we looked at one pole it.
Speaker 6: Was ninety two to seven. We had a ninety two
Speaker 6: percent rating. In one pole we had an eighty six
Speaker 6: percent rating, and another we had seventy seven percent, ninety percent,
Speaker 6: sixty percent, seventy two percent, seventy one percent and eighty
Speaker 6: nine percent.
Speaker 4: Wow, those certainly were numbers. Is this what Trump did
Speaker 4: during his debate prep memorize all the numbers between.
Speaker 3: Seventy ninety eight.
Speaker 4: In fact, every moment since the debate ended last night,
Speaker 4: Trump has.
Speaker 3: Been spinning and spinning and spinning.
Speaker 4: I mean, just listen to his response after Taylor Swift
Speaker 4: announced she is endorsing Kamala Harris.
Speaker 5: Well, I actually like missus. I actually like Missus Mahomes
Speaker 5: much better. If you walk in't home the trup She's
Speaker 5: a big Trump fan. I was not a Taylor Swift fan.
Speaker 4: Really, really, Donald, you prefer Brittany Mahomes. What's your top
Speaker 4: five Brittany Mahomes songs?
Speaker 3: This is really his angle? Well, I don't.
Speaker 4: Care, Taylor, because I like your boyfriend's coworker's wife better.
Speaker 4: This has just been a day of pathetic, desperate spinning.
Speaker 4: I mean, imagine if Donald Trump spent all that energy
Speaker 4: on doing things correctly instead of pretending he did things correctly.
Speaker 4: I mean, if he had worked harder preparing for the debate,
Speaker 4: maybe he wouldn't have had to pretend he won the debate.
Speaker 4: If he had worked harder to win in twenty twenty,
Speaker 4: maybe he wouldn't have to pretend the election was rigged,
Speaker 4: And if he had worked harder on January sixth, maybe
Speaker 4: he could have overthrown the government and wouldn't have to
Speaker 4: be debating in the first place. It's called work ethic,
Speaker 4: Donald Come on. Of course, Donald Trump wasn't the only
Speaker 4: one spinning his performance last night, as aforementioned Vice President J.
Speaker 4: D Vance was asked about why Donald Trump ranted about
Speaker 4: illegal immigrants eating pets, and his response was illuminating.
Speaker 3: Why pushed something that's not true?
Speaker 7: Well, first of all, city officials have not said it's
Speaker 7: not true.
Speaker 1: They said they don't have all the evidence. We've heard
Speaker 1: no evidence.
Speaker 7: We've heard from a number of constituents on the ground, Caitlin,
Speaker 7: who both first hand and second hand reports this stuff
Speaker 7: is happening. So they very clearly meaning the people on
Speaker 7: the ground dealing with this think that it is happening.
Speaker 3: And I think that it's important.
Speaker 7: For journalists to actually get on the ground and uncover
Speaker 7: this stuff for themselves.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm sorry, this is not my main takeaway from
Speaker 4: the story. But someone's cat went missing, so they called
Speaker 4: their senator. I mean, were they like Hm, Should I
Speaker 4: go right to the President of the United States or should.
Speaker 3: I start with my senator?
Speaker 4: You gotta update those emergency numbers on your fridge, Berry,
Speaker 4: come on, But.
Speaker 3: Perhaps perhaps jd Vance has a point. If a story.
Speaker 4: Bubbles up from the right wing sewer, it is our obligation, nay,
Speaker 4: our duty in the mainstream media to investigate it, no
Speaker 4: matter the cost. And that is exactly we have done
Speaker 4: here at the Daily Show. I sent Ronnie Chang undercover
Speaker 4: to Springfield to find out if illegal migrants are really
Speaker 4: gobbling up.
Speaker 3: Our small town cats.
Speaker 4: Let's go live Tom now, Ronnie, Ronnie, Ronnie, how's the
Speaker 4: investigation going?
Speaker 3: Well, Jordan?
Speaker 8: I mean, Ohio in a cat costume, trying to get
Speaker 8: migrants to eat me. So it's not great. Also, it's
Speaker 8: not working, Okay. I even tender toize myself with a
Speaker 8: jerk rub and went around saying, now, meow, I'm so tasty.
Speaker 3: Nothing.
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, Well, obviously you're not going to fool anyone
Speaker 4: with a half assed meal like that.
Speaker 3: You need to commit to the role. Ronnie.
Speaker 8: Hey, hey, don't tell me how to commit.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 3: How many Marvel movies are you in?
Speaker 8: Okay?
Speaker 6: Trust me?
Speaker 3: Trust me. Okay, I've tried everything.
Speaker 8: I share in a box, I batter around some yard,
Speaker 8: I play with a dead mouse.
Speaker 3: I found nothing. Have you been licking your butthole?
Speaker 8: I can't reach my butthole.
Speaker 3: Truck to reach my butthole? I can't.
Speaker 8: It's impossible, which I already knew for reasons I don't
Speaker 8: want to discuss.
Speaker 4: Okay, well, then what are we gonna do about these allegations?
Speaker 8: I don't know, Jordan, how about we ignore them. Good
Speaker 8: journalism doesn't mean we have to take every insane, racist
Speaker 8: conspiracy theory at face value. Okay, let's just ship on
Speaker 8: it and move on like I did in a box earlier.
Speaker 4: Wow, well you know what. You know what, Roddie, Maybe
Speaker 4: you're right. I appreciate you taking journalistic principles.
Speaker 3: So seriously, you're.
Speaker 4: Really following in the footsteps of Edward R. Meauro Roddy,
Speaker 4: did you hear what I said? I said, Edward R.
Speaker 3: Edward wish you were dead?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 3: Anyway? Oh wait, oh wait, wait, someone's coming.
Speaker 8: Someone's going oh shit, oh shit, oh shit, they're getting
Speaker 8: gay off of con They're coming for me.
Speaker 3: They're coming from right there. Hellody, Yes, yes, I'm here.
Speaker 3: Oh oh thank god. Okay, what happened? Were you were?
Speaker 9: You?
Speaker 3: Were you kidnapped by a hungry immigrants?
Speaker 8: No, no, no, I think I was adopted by a
Speaker 8: childless cat lady.
Speaker 4: Oh all right, okay, hang tight, running, Hang tight, we're
Speaker 4: sending someone to bring you back.
Speaker 8: Oh, actually, you know what, I'll hold off. She's in
Speaker 8: the kitchen cooking me some organic chicken right now. I
Speaker 8: want to see how this plays out.
Speaker 3: How awesome I love these things.
Speaker 4: Okay, I have fun running running, chang everyone cool, we'll
Speaker 4: come back. We'll find out how the city of Philadelphia
Speaker 4: is taking.
Speaker 10: Your money, so they'll go away. Welcome back to the Daily.
Speaker 4: So last night's debate took place in Philadelphia, a critical
Speaker 4: city and the upcoming election.
Speaker 3: But if you're a resident who plans.
Speaker 4: To vote there, you might want to be careful where
Speaker 4: you park your car on the way to the voting booth.
Speaker 3: Michael Costa has more city parking.
Speaker 11: It's a hell for those who choose to live in
Speaker 11: urban areas. But in Philadelphia, the eating shit in public
Speaker 11: capital of America. If you're not keeping up with parking rules,
Speaker 11: they'll move your car for you.
Speaker 3: Isn't that great?
Speaker 11: It's called courtesy towing and Philadelphians love it.
Speaker 12: My car was moved from a legal parking spot to
Speaker 12: a illegal parking spot. That's what they call it, courtesy toe.
Speaker 12: I have a parking permit for the street parking, and
Speaker 12: there wasn't a temporary no parking sign put up within
Speaker 12: a couple of days and I was out of town.
Speaker 12: So it was then towed to an illegal parking spot
Speaker 12: by the city, and then it was towed down to
Speaker 12: the PPA impound lot, which is where we are, and
Speaker 12: then moved to the auction lot because it was about
Speaker 12: to be auctioned off.
Speaker 11: So you parked in a legal spot with a legal permit, correct,
Speaker 11: and eventually your car was in the impound lot.
Speaker 12: Correct?
Speaker 3: Did you park shitty?
Speaker 1: Just be honest, heari, Curio, Curio, forget that.
Speaker 12: I am a very legal parker.
Speaker 9: Be very careful, or you park your car, you're going
Speaker 9: to get ticketed.
Speaker 3: Let me just side with big government for a sec.
Speaker 11: I hear a lot of people bitching about the tow
Speaker 11: truck man. I've been towed once or twice.
Speaker 1: But I know I parked it legally.
Speaker 9: There's courtesy towing, which is up for weather for events
Speaker 9: and typically they're supposed to put up no parking signs.
Speaker 9: It happened less than twelve hours after I had parked there.
Speaker 9: When I got back to my car, it wasn't there.
Speaker 9: I'd called the PPA a couple times, not helpful. Finally
Speaker 9: just called the police. So then was able to tell
Speaker 9: me based on your license plate, it's at fifteenth in Washington.
Speaker 1: This is called a courtesy tow. Well that's nice. That's nice.
Speaker 3: No, I mean it would be if they parked my
Speaker 3: car legally.
Speaker 9: So we're walking up to fifteenth in Washington. There's my
Speaker 9: car and it's parked in the media like in the
Speaker 9: turn lane, which weird.
Speaker 3: Yeah, see the four tickets on it. Oh, there's four
Speaker 3: tickets on tickets on it. They courtesy towed.
Speaker 11: Your car to a different location, to an illegal spot,
Speaker 11: and then you start to acquire tickets from that illegal spot.
Speaker 11: The one common factor in these stories the PPA or
Speaker 11: Philadelphia Parking Authority. But why was this beloved governmental agency
Speaker 11: courtesy towing its residents in the first place.
Speaker 12: It's very profitable, and everybody knows that I waited about
Speaker 12: an hour and a half to get in and then
Speaker 12: had to pay nine hundred and sixty four dollars.
Speaker 6: What.
Speaker 12: Yeah, they have a toe fee, the ticket fees, and
Speaker 12: then the impound lot daily storage fee and it's a
Speaker 12: money making machine.
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 11: How bad I could a couple extra fines be, especially
Speaker 11: since the PPA helps fund cash trap.
Speaker 10: Schools in Philly.
Speaker 1: Well, it turns out.
Speaker 11: They haven't been honoring their agreement with the city with
Speaker 11: holding closes to seventy eight million dollars. Because of alleged
Speaker 11: financial mismanagement.
Speaker 13: The money is not going to the schools.
Speaker 11: One group holding the parking Authority accountable is to Pay
Speaker 11: Up PPA Coalition. I met with organizer Rachelle Nicole Solomon
Speaker 11: in one of Philadelphia's historic green spaces.
Speaker 13: The mission of pay Up PPA is to have the
Speaker 13: Philadelphia Parking Authority be accountable, be transparent, and to have
Speaker 13: a specific amount of rear car funding every year to
Speaker 13: the school District of Philadelphia.
Speaker 11: So in Philadelphia, the parking authorities leftover revenue goes to
Speaker 11: the education.
Speaker 13: Success forty five million a year estimate to the School
Speaker 13: District of Philadelphia from the Orange Street parking, But the
Speaker 13: money is not going to the schools, which means one
Speaker 13: of two things, and maybe both One they were lying
Speaker 13: or two that the leadership, both the director and the
Speaker 13: board are grossly incompetent.
Speaker 11: And your opinion is getting ticketed towed by the PPA
Speaker 11: a rite of passage for Philadelphia residents.
Speaker 13: I don't know about a rite a passage, but probably
Speaker 13: everybody can can check that off their list. I mean,
Speaker 13: I've been told my husband been towed. We all get tickets.
Speaker 13: I mean it's part of life.
Speaker 11: There goes one right there, that's one of our guys
Speaker 11: right now getting a ticket as we speak.
Speaker 1: Good luck trying to fight that.
Speaker 11: Anyway, back to the interview, what can Philadelphians do to
Speaker 11: combat some of the corruption of the PPA other than
Speaker 11: throw batteries or riot on Broad Street.
Speaker 13: I think there's some rum in between those two things, right,
Speaker 13: I think they need to ask questions, show up at
Speaker 13: the Parking Authority Board meeting ye, and say pay up. PPA.
Speaker 11: It was time for the PPA to pay up. So
Speaker 11: I did what any good citizen would. I went into
Speaker 11: the PPA unsolicited with a camera and microphone.
Speaker 3: How you doing?
Speaker 11: You probably know who I am, but I'm Michael Constan
Speaker 11: with the Daily and I just wanted to talk to
Speaker 11: somebody on camera about the ppa's courtesy toe policy.
Speaker 4: So We're gonna have to ask you to step back over,
Speaker 4: okay and we can.
Speaker 3: Have this interview.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 11: So I'm being asked to leave, yep, okay, but do
Speaker 11: you mind if I use your toilet?
Speaker 1: I got a bus about to leave the station.
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you. Well, I just want to talk to you, but.
Speaker 11: I got courtesy toad out of there. So there you
Speaker 11: have at Philadelphians. The PPA is screwing you and your
Speaker 11: public school's over.
Speaker 1: The good news is I'm a New Yorker.
Speaker 11: I don't have to give a shit about any of this.
Speaker 3: Son of a bitch. What's up is this.
Speaker 11: One hundred and seventy five bucks, this city and the PPA.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Michael.
Speaker 4: When we come back, John Holliman, we'll be enjoining me
Speaker 4: on the show.
Speaker 3: We'll go away. Welcome back to the Daily Show.
Speaker 4: My guest tonight as a best seller at All thirteenth
Speaker 4: political Columnists as partner at Talk an host the Politics Podcast.
Speaker 4: Please welcome John Heilman. I knew there would be some
Speaker 4: Wu Tang apparel when.
Speaker 14: You walked out after you sung the praises of Wu
Speaker 14: Tang your Chicago convention show. You saw that, Yeah, of
Speaker 14: course I did. You talked about how that era nineteen
Speaker 14: ninty one nineteeny five four best year's American history. I agree,
Speaker 14: you agree, right, I agreed. I'm a little disappointed they
Speaker 14: promised me DESI.
Speaker 3: Tonight they did, because.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm here.
Speaker 14: I mean, I love you, but like you know, I
Speaker 14: was like, I wanted to get the best sub John hosts.
Speaker 4: First of all, I don't consider myself a sub John host.
Speaker 4: I am the host of the goddamn Daily Show. You
Speaker 4: will respect that, and you should understand that all of
Speaker 4: the best groups have a lot of members O dB, Jizzo, Rizza,
Speaker 4: Master Killer, Inspected, dec.
Speaker 3: These are groups lands if you will.
Speaker 1: I can't believe you.
Speaker 14: I can't believe some of the ones you're leaving out
Speaker 14: there are like math. Who's gonna come over here and
Speaker 14: beat the shit out of you for that? But here's
Speaker 14: here's how you know that I actually knew it was you, Okay,
Speaker 14: after all that discussion that we had on my podcast
Speaker 14: last week about the.
Speaker 1: Food of Chicago.
Speaker 4: Yes, I was slumming it and I did your podcast.
Speaker 1: He did and he was great. He was great.
Speaker 14: You gotta listen to it. In Politic with John Hommet
Speaker 14: here's the thing. So you didn't come to Philly. No
Speaker 14: I didn't you know what they make in Philly? What
Speaker 14: do they make?
Speaker 1: Chees steaks, chees sticks? Famously, there's two of them, two
Speaker 1: famous cheese steak makers.
Speaker 3: Yes, I've been to one of them, which one Geno's.
Speaker 3: I think, Well we got.
Speaker 14: Now these were purchased after them. They're to up and
Speaker 14: twenty four hours. These were purchased at the middle, like
Speaker 14: about three am.
Speaker 3: It's Pats and Ginos.
Speaker 1: Pats and Gino's right next to each other. Gino's Steaks.
Speaker 3: Right, wait, you're bringing me old meat.
Speaker 14: Well no, no, these were transported from Philadelphia as if
Speaker 14: they were severed limbs. Okay, like on on ice very well,
Speaker 14: like just it's really hygienic.
Speaker 1: Don't worry, it's gonna be great. But yeah, old shee whiz.
Speaker 1: There's nothing better. There's nothing better. And this is Pat's
Speaker 1: Kingdom Steaks.
Speaker 14: Now, these places have been operating in Philadelphia for like
Speaker 14: eighty years. They're a block away from each other, and
Speaker 14: people will fight you in Philly over which one.
Speaker 1: Of these is better. Yeah, they're indistinguishable.
Speaker 14: If you take if you take a if you take
Speaker 14: one of these piece of steak and covered in cheese.
Speaker 1: Whiz. This is just supposed to do and onions. You
Speaker 1: can't tell the difference.
Speaker 14: So we you don't have to eat it now because
Speaker 14: I know how it's eating on the air is not cool.
Speaker 14: But I wanted to make sure that you had yea
Speaker 14: and offering.
Speaker 3: What do you think these people want to see?
Speaker 4: John, This is the smartest, the smartest audience on television.
Speaker 3: Brook, eat it. Let's do it. Don't hear We're gonna
Speaker 3: do it. I tell you what We're gonna do it.
Speaker 3: This is all gonna live on the web now.
Speaker 4: Because this interview has already gone seventeen minutes into. Okay,
Speaker 4: so I'm starting with my genos. Okay, I'm gonna try this.
Speaker 4: And as I'm trying this, I want you to encapsulate
Speaker 4: as if we are eating in Philadelphia, your experience last
Speaker 4: night at the debate in Philadelphia.
Speaker 14: First things, First, she kicked his ass. Now I heard
Speaker 14: I heard John last night talking about how you know
Speaker 14: this amount of opinion. People will claim various things. Here's
Speaker 14: the fundamental truth about campaigns. Both sides have either directly
Speaker 14: under their under their auspices or in super packs they
Speaker 14: have they do these things called dial groups. They get
Speaker 14: undecided voters in battleground states to watch the debate in
Speaker 14: real time, and they said, you've seen these things.
Speaker 1: What they relate cranked the dial? Do they approve, they disapprove.
Speaker 14: And that's how they That's all they're looking at is
Speaker 14: what the dials are showing them. Later they will look
Speaker 14: at polling, but on that.
Speaker 4: Night, internally, they're getting that essentially in real time, based
Speaker 4: on the answers they're happening.
Speaker 14: And at the end of the night they know two things.
Speaker 14: Did their candidate perform well with the dial groups? And
Speaker 14: the dial groups are meant to be representative of groups
Speaker 14: they're trying to reach and bring over onto their side,
Speaker 14: And they will know what worked, what are the things
Speaker 14: that work best by the end, at the end of
Speaker 14: the night, if you know someone at a high level
Speaker 14: of the campaign or either campaign or both campaigns says,
Speaker 14: I might you will know by the end of the
Speaker 14: night what the dial, what the group said.
Speaker 1: What the dial said basically is what they'll say to you.
Speaker 14: Yeah, And I would say, this is a rare moment
Speaker 14: where the Harris campaign and the Trump campaign were in agree,
Speaker 14: but the dial said that she kicked his ass.
Speaker 4: Really and then Trump campaign was aware of that because
Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw Donald Trump had numbers.
Speaker 3: I think one of them, ninety one of them was
Speaker 3: seventy four. I think there was a pie squared in there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: he had numbers.
Speaker 14: I thought that was the funniest part when he came
Speaker 14: into the spin room, because like Trump is full of
Speaker 14: shit most of the time, and he makes up all
Speaker 14: kinds of things, but that was one of those things
Speaker 14: that was the most made up thing on earth. And
Speaker 14: of course, like the story about how elbred in America
Speaker 14: wanted Roby Way to go away, which we'll come back to,
Speaker 14: it was easily verifiable because of course all the networks
Speaker 14: were going to put up their numbers. You know, CNM
Speaker 14: was broadcast their numbers a half an hour later and
Speaker 14: showing that, in fact, all their instapoles. But you so
Speaker 14: showed that Harris had won. And I'll tell you the
Speaker 14: other thing is that what she did best on were
Speaker 14: all of the abortion related questions, all of this stuff
Speaker 14: about women's reproductor rights.
Speaker 1: Those were the things that stretch.
Speaker 14: She had about two and a half minute answer when
Speaker 14: she really started to come on strong in the debate,
Speaker 14: and she got very it was very emotional, very direct,
Speaker 14: very powerful. They those the dial groups loved that. That
Speaker 14: was off the charts, even in the I mean in
Speaker 14: the Druid. These are all undecided voters, so they're essentially
Speaker 14: different groups that the campaigns are monitoring, but they're all
Speaker 14: there are no Trump fans in these groups, and there's
Speaker 14: no Harris fans. These are you know, sensibly people who
Speaker 14: haven't made up their mind.
Speaker 4: They're they're undecided. There psychotic, insane people. Oh well, I
Speaker 4: can't wrap my head around. But these these on the side.
Speaker 4: I mean, there was there was some poll that around
Speaker 4: thirty percent of people wanted to know more from Kamala Harris.
Speaker 4: What did people actually learn about Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what. I think. There's two ways
Speaker 1: to look at that.
Speaker 14: You know, when you think about this from the Harris
Speaker 14: kind of strategic standpoint, one thing was that was the
Speaker 14: New York Times Cena poll. It basically said there was
Speaker 14: a lot of people who still don't feel like they
Speaker 14: know very much about her, and they wanted to know more.
Speaker 14: That was one thing that you could have tried to
Speaker 14: aim to do, so tell your story more, to try
Speaker 14: to explain some of your changes on positions, all that
Speaker 14: sort of stuff, Right, But if you look back to
Speaker 14: the history of presidential debates, the way that they are
Speaker 14: often remembered as who won them and who lost them
Speaker 14: is on one metric in one metric alum, which is
Speaker 14: like who commands the stage, who who commanded the sphere
Speaker 14: of battle? And for a candidate who's run who's in
Speaker 14: their first general election presidential debate? Bill Clinton and others
Speaker 14: would say, Americans are watching to see whether they could
Speaker 14: imagine this person as the commander in chief as president
Speaker 14: of the United States. Can they go toe to toe
Speaker 14: with an adversary in the moment? Do they command the debate?
Speaker 14: Are they is the image of command left in people?
Speaker 14: So it's a plausibility test. And I just think there's
Speaker 14: no one with eyes in their head who didn't think
Speaker 14: that Kamala Harris was the one who commanded the stage
Speaker 14: last night. And that's why between the dial groups and
Speaker 14: just the plain obvious thing that Trump as maniacal, irrational, mentally, psychologically, emotionally,
Speaker 14: spiritually failing as he is at this moment.
Speaker 1: She was you know, was she perfect?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 14: But she was strong, right, And I think that she
Speaker 14: came across as strong, and she decided to play that
Speaker 14: prosecutor role, and she played it really well. She was
Speaker 14: incredibly as you said, well, incredibly well prepared, and she
Speaker 14: kept coming back to her themes that.
Speaker 1: She wanted to hit.
Speaker 14: Yeah, and I just I mean, I can't as a
Speaker 14: debate quad debate, which is not how are people going
Speaker 14: to vote? Eight weeks from now is one of the
Speaker 14: election days. These people are still undecided. Mostly We're not
Speaker 14: waking up today going okay, I've decided.
Speaker 3: Well she looked, she looked, she looked presidentially yes. And
Speaker 3: as you.
Speaker 14: Said in in off camera, I think to these fine
Speaker 14: people out here, you know, you're dealing with a lunatic.
Speaker 14: You're you're dealing with a with a pathologically lying insurrection,
Speaker 14: fomenting democracy, degrading, defiling, asshole and and so allegedly so
Speaker 14: you're so it's a it's a tough like you imagine
Speaker 14: how like what that?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 14: Well, I'm a challenge involved in doing that and holding
Speaker 14: your composure. And I'll say, you know, because no one
Speaker 14: did this better than John did on the night of
Speaker 14: the first debate.
Speaker 3: I get it. You like John's doing he did.
Speaker 1: Look, you are He's like, you're comedy hero.
Speaker 14: Like, well, okay, yes, but he put up those pictures
Speaker 14: of Biden slack John. It was a four box and
Speaker 14: he's like, when they did the debate prep, did nobody
Speaker 14: show them the pictures because these don't look great. She
Speaker 14: was so aware of the split screen and how the
Speaker 14: split screen would work that I feel like it was
Speaker 14: like a bizarro world Biden debate a lot of ways
Speaker 14: last night, right, because Trump, the split screen that with
Speaker 14: that with Harris was doing to Trump what the split
Speaker 14: screen with Biden did to Biden. Right, Biden suffered in
Speaker 14: that split screen with Trump, and Trump suffers in that
Speaker 14: split screen with her. He looked angry almost throughout we
Speaker 14: did without the sound on.
Speaker 4: I don't disagree, and I do think I think Kamala
Speaker 4: looked more than a depth. She did look presidential.
Speaker 3: I think she.
Speaker 4: Was masterful in many ways of both seeming above the
Speaker 4: frame but also poking him as well. Yes, but this
Speaker 4: audience is different. I think people don't see Donald Trump.
Speaker 4: I don't believe people saw that and saw Donald Trump
Speaker 4: for the first time as a diminished man. He looked angry,
Speaker 4: but angrier has been something that he's been selling the
Speaker 4: American public, and there's that forty five percent who love that.
Speaker 3: Do you actually think.
Speaker 1: I don't think that.
Speaker 14: I don't think you're only going to take way Trump
Speaker 14: voters from Trump. You know, I think what you're what
Speaker 14: she's trying to get across, I think now is that
Speaker 14: he is not just the old candidate of the race.
Speaker 14: Now the generational contrast. She wants to be changed, she
Speaker 14: wants to be younger, and she is in some ways
Speaker 14: implicitly pushing like the argument that took down Biden, which
Speaker 14: is that, I mean Donald Trump's mental acuity. I say
Speaker 14: this not in a in a just a trashing him
Speaker 14: kind of way, which I'm I'm happy to do sometimes.
Speaker 3: But I think about a minute and a half ago.
Speaker 14: But he just but he's he's getting worse. I mean,
Speaker 14: he's never been wholly linear, let's put it that way, right.
Speaker 14: But if you go back to twenty sixteen when he
Speaker 14: really won the election with against Clinton, those last ten
Speaker 14: or twelve days of the election, they managed to get
Speaker 14: him to talk about trade, the border wall China, and
Speaker 14: he was actually a pretty disciplined candidate for the crucial
Speaker 14: ten or twelve days of the election. Now there are
Speaker 14: a lot of Republicans who look at, well, she has
Speaker 14: this momentum. What's going to change between now an election
Speaker 14: day that will hold her momentum. One thing is like
Speaker 14: some external event, you know, you know, Vladimir Putin does something,
Speaker 14: China does something, some kind of cyber war, a Russian
Speaker 14: Martian invasion. You know that someone has to repel on
Speaker 14: the White House lawn. Another is Harris grew up. You know,
Speaker 14: she messes up somehow. She didn't do that last night, right,
Speaker 14: we will agree at that. And the third thing which
Speaker 14: Republicans all are hoping for and praying for, and that
Speaker 14: what they've been trying to beg Trump to do is
Speaker 14: be a disciplined, focused, rigorous, consistent candidate.
Speaker 1: Make these arguments.
Speaker 14: That's we're begging him to do it with this idea
Speaker 14: in mind, that he can pull it together in these
Speaker 14: last eight weeks and become this thing that occasionally he
Speaker 14: was in the past. I just think if you watched
Speaker 14: that debate last night, there are none of that there.
Speaker 14: There's none of that there. When he started talking about
Speaker 14: the dogs and cats and the pets being killed, do you.
Speaker 1: Know how that question started?
Speaker 14: I don't remember what it started with David we were
Speaker 14: asking him about immigration. Yeah, now in the Biden debate,
Speaker 14: go back to my bizarro world thing.
Speaker 1: The Biden day debate.
Speaker 14: Rightly, Biden got question about abortion his strength and turned
Speaker 14: it into an immigration question.
Speaker 1: And that's when you knew he.
Speaker 14: Had really lost it. You're like, what are you doing?
Speaker 14: You're talking about immigration. They set you up, They put
Speaker 14: it on the tee abortion, talk about Rugby Wade. Last night,
Speaker 14: Trump got asked about imigration. Here's the issue he wants
Speaker 14: to talk about. Sweet, but Harris had baited him on
Speaker 14: the crowd size thing. He turned away from immigration and
Speaker 14: then proceeded to discuss the size of his crowds. World
Speaker 14: War III was coming, the size of his crowds again,
Speaker 14: and then the apparent obviously completely made up holocaust of
Speaker 14: the cats, dogs and.
Speaker 3: Pets in Ohio.
Speaker 14: Bear in mind that in the last one hundred years
Speaker 14: and occupants to the White House, every single one of
Speaker 14: them has had a pet, except for Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Because he's a sociopath.
Speaker 4: Because maybe he doesn't like to snack at night, he doesn't.
Speaker 14: The guy cares less about dogs and cats than any
Speaker 14: occupant ever. And that includes like other bona fide sociopaths, well,
Speaker 14: that is such an example to you give Donald Trump
Speaker 14: enough time.
Speaker 3: He's not prepped for anything.
Speaker 4: He's always grasped me that straw and frankly, he's only
Speaker 4: got a handful of straws.
Speaker 3: Right. He's got his immigration as well as did a
Speaker 3: couple things.
Speaker 4: He's going to bang that drum and whatever he read
Speaker 4: on the internet that day, and that's what you see
Speaker 4: getting an ample. But he brings the Internet to life.
Speaker 14: And you saw Laura, you saw when he arrived in Philly,
Speaker 14: Laura Lumer, who's like literally the craziest person on the right,
Speaker 14: crazier than anybody in the history of the right.
Speaker 3: That's all of a crown to wear. That's when she.
Speaker 1: Got off the plane.
Speaker 3: You knew.
Speaker 14: You were like, he's going to be talking about the
Speaker 14: cat carnage in the non existent cat carnage in Ohio.
Speaker 14: And I will I will say this again just to
Speaker 14: the question of can he be a discipline candidate? What's
Speaker 14: the other thing he was supposed to do last night?
Speaker 14: Tie Kamala Harris to Joe Biden's economic record. The first
Speaker 14: time he mentioned it was at the one hour and
Speaker 14: twenty four minute mark of a one hour and thirty
Speaker 14: minute debate, and in the way he mentioned it was
Speaker 14: to say she is Joe Biden. She is Joe Biden.
Speaker 14: And again back to the split screen, Cali Haras like,
Speaker 14: I don't really think I'm Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: No, I mean, can people see that I'm not Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: He did it.
Speaker 14: He finally decided to do what he did so badly
Speaker 14: that she could just like knock it away.
Speaker 3: With a Laplain.
Speaker 4: Well, she got asked that question right off the bat,
Speaker 4: and she said, I'm gonna talk about my history.
Speaker 14: That's totally And you heard Jadie Vance afterwards in the
Speaker 14: spin room where I was talking about how you know
Speaker 14: Trump made these points in his closing statement. I'm like, ah,
Speaker 14: now that's a strong candidate, the one who remembers, Hey,
Speaker 14: it's my closing statement.
Speaker 1: I might want to say that thing about Biden.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 4: And at the end is do people around I guess
Speaker 4: my question do people around him? One do they really
Speaker 4: have an expectation of changing Donald Trump in that way?
Speaker 4: And two did they have a sense of what truly
Speaker 4: is happening. I hear the moment where Donald Trump comes
Speaker 4: out and he has those bullshit numbers, and of course
Speaker 4: he's always pulling out numbers that make the most sense
Speaker 4: to him. But are they giving him numbers that make
Speaker 4: him comfortable in that moment? Is what is their awareness?
Speaker 4: The Trump the Trump circle, what is their awareness of
Speaker 4: what is happening?
Speaker 14: It's not a monolith, right you know? Trump has now
Speaker 14: brought Corey Lewandwski back into the fold. Corey Lewandowski is
Speaker 14: the ultimate. Let Trump be Trump? Can it Trump?
Speaker 1: Corey was exiled. Now he's back.
Speaker 14: His job is to do things that make Trump happy
Speaker 14: so that he will not be exiled again. The professionals
Speaker 14: in that group, people like Chris Lossi, Vita the campaign manager,
Speaker 14: and Casus you Wiles, the co campaign manager. You would
Speaker 14: say whatever you want about them and their values or
Speaker 14: whatever in working for Trump, but they are professional people
Speaker 14: who've run important campaigns before, and they are the ones
Speaker 14: begging Donald Trump to please talk about how she's in
Speaker 14: San Francisco liberal, talk about how she's a flip flopper,
Speaker 14: talk about how she's a phony, talk about trying to
Speaker 14: make her explain how she went from being in favor
Speaker 14: of all these liberal positions to being against them. And
Speaker 14: they are I think constantly must live in hope because
Speaker 14: if they don't live in the hope that they can
Speaker 14: change him in some way. You know, the world is
Speaker 14: very cold and dark if you think that, if you
Speaker 14: think that this Donald Trump is going to be the
Speaker 14: Donald Trump, you're going to get for the next fifty
Speaker 14: five days before.
Speaker 1: Election day because that's a Donald Trump.
Speaker 14: I'm not saying you can't win Jordan, because it's going
Speaker 14: to be really, really close. But man, I think you know,
Speaker 14: every Republican strategist in the country looks and says, if
Speaker 14: this guy ran a standard Republican campaign against her, there's
Speaker 14: a playbook, and and he would appreciably increase his odds
Speaker 14: of winning if he were to be able to remotely
Speaker 14: execute that. And we have no sign that he can.
Speaker 14: There's this also, the thing you were talking about this
Speaker 14: a little before. You know, I've been in a lot
Speaker 14: of spin rooms in my life, you know, and yeah.
Speaker 3: Very and I'm very impressed.
Speaker 4: Pretty cool room to be and you get to hang
Speaker 4: out with Scaramucci now, and then yeah.
Speaker 1: You get to be with the mooch.
Speaker 14: Here's the thing about this, People go, oh, you're are
Speaker 14: you in there? Somebody wrote to me last night, a
Speaker 14: friend who said, were you in the room where it happens.
Speaker 14: I'm like, no, the press is never in the room
Speaker 14: where it happens. We don't sit in the debate hall.
Speaker 14: We sit in a room next to the room where
Speaker 14: it happens. And we all gets together in a giant
Speaker 14: room watching it on TV.
Speaker 1: And this is just like you at home.
Speaker 14: And the only advantage is that when it's over, a
Speaker 14: bunch of professional liars come out and get and we
Speaker 14: get to be lied to you to our face.
Speaker 4: But that but don't you think there's seven I never
Speaker 4: miss it. But it feels like we talked about this
Speaker 4: in the beginning of our show. It feels like Trump
Speaker 4: thinks that is the room where it happens.
Speaker 3: He doesn't.
Speaker 4: He doesn't prep for a debate to articulate a vision
Speaker 4: of the future to America. He preps for a time
Speaker 4: to lick his wounds and bullshit the press with more cameras.
Speaker 3: That's that's where all his energy goes.
Speaker 4: You've got the show, so sadly, people shouldn't be performing
Speaker 4: for you.
Speaker 3: That's a nightmare.
Speaker 4: People should be Trump should be performing for the people
Speaker 4: at home. But he doesn't see it that way.
Speaker 1: You know, I think I may have told you the
Speaker 1: story for a little while twenty fifteen twenty.
Speaker 3: Tell me you don't retell me a story Trump.
Speaker 14: Well, these people haven't heard. Trump liked me for a
Speaker 14: little while, he liked you. I wrote a tweet about
Speaker 14: him when he first entered the race in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 14: I said, you know, the Republican Party is getting more racist, nationalist,
Speaker 14: and xenophobic.
Speaker 1: I think Donald Trump has a chant to win.
Speaker 14: And I saw him a face to face interview with
Speaker 14: him the next day and he said, and he after
Speaker 14: he had tweeted at Jay Hollis, finally started to understand me.
Speaker 14: And I went did this interview with him, and I said,
Speaker 14: you know, I thought you might be pissed, and he
Speaker 14: was like, no. At that moment, it was there were
Speaker 14: people who didn't think he could win, and people who
Speaker 14: thought he could win binary And if you were on
Speaker 14: the side of people who took him seriously, he didn't care.
Speaker 14: Why you could have said, the whole country is now
Speaker 14: members of the Brooks Clan Donald Trump's to show in.
Speaker 1: He would have been like, thank you for understanding. He
Speaker 1: didn't care. He just didn't want to be. He didn't
Speaker 1: like the people who were saying he has no chance.
Speaker 1: He's a buffoon.
Speaker 14: He's doing this as a branding exercise. I was on
Speaker 14: the other side, and for a little while, whenever I
Speaker 14: would see him, he would say, Heilman, You're starting to
Speaker 14: understand me.
Speaker 1: We're both German, and that always freaked me.
Speaker 14: Out because because I'm not like really German, like any
Speaker 14: meaningful way, you know, and I mean the name of
Speaker 14: I have German from the German descent, but I'm not
Speaker 14: like I didn't grow up in in Munich, you know,
Speaker 14: you know, it's not.
Speaker 3: My but he saw something in it.
Speaker 14: Yes, it was very like it was always like a
Speaker 14: lot of like he's always like you know, yeah, I like, yeah,
Speaker 14: just you know, starting to come around on hat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the meaner I was, the more he liked.
Speaker 14: Me, until until he then got an office and my
Speaker 14: secret service code name became that mother. Well that's a
Speaker 14: that's a step up, it's a step out.
Speaker 1: It was a step up.
Speaker 14: I'll tell you what you can see in the spin
Speaker 14: room last night, though, is that it's not hard to
Speaker 14: know these things that you find out from your sources
Speaker 14: about how the dial groups went. It's not hard to
Speaker 14: read the faces. And I will tell you I posted
Speaker 14: a tweet yeah, last night I took a picture as
Speaker 14: I was walking out of Matt Gates.
Speaker 1: What's his name?
Speaker 3: Uh uh s.
Speaker 14: Miller, Matt Gate, Stephen Miller. And this the skinniest, most
Speaker 14: inselly looking guy in the world who was carrying their
Speaker 14: little sad sign out in the spin room. Because they
Speaker 14: have a little person who carries a sign. If you
Speaker 14: were in the spin room, they would cary a little
Speaker 14: sign that would say Clipper on it, or if they
Speaker 14: wanted to get some attention, it would say Stuart.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, there you go. Jordan.
Speaker 1: Jordan's having a hard time with that, with that, with
Speaker 1: that wax there.
Speaker 3: It's a it's a hard wag. It's hard.
Speaker 1: Can I have you been have you been skimming on
Speaker 1: the gym sessions lately?
Speaker 3: He says, I'm waiting to l after the election. You know, uh,
Speaker 3: this will be good later.
Speaker 1: Yea, But this picture now, I'm not gonna be Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, look at this, look at this.
Speaker 3: It's tough. The Bourbon's much easier.
Speaker 1: Is there no one around you who can help us? Here?
Speaker 3: That things?
Speaker 1: That's that's really what waxed on it. It's like Miyagi
Speaker 1: wax on, wax off, Stay focused, all right, I'm trying.
Speaker 3: I'm trying.
Speaker 1: I'm trying.
Speaker 3: I gotta wrap this up. This ain't a Gates.
Speaker 14: Gates, Miller and this little skinny kid, right, they look
Speaker 14: so sad and uh, you know, I saw the various
Speaker 14: response tweets. People would say, you know, an incel neo
Speaker 14: Nazi in a pedophile walk into a bar.
Speaker 1: That's the way, that's the way. A lot of great
Speaker 1: jokes start.
Speaker 14: And Matt Matt Gates was wearing these white like sketchers
Speaker 14: with like like job black jogging pants as his suit
Speaker 14: bottoms and then a suit jacket on top. I mean,
Speaker 14: he looked like he was ready for a del Boca
Speaker 14: Vista basically at his age.
Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, I think that's a step forward. If
Speaker 4: he's trying to appeal to the older folks. I think,
Speaker 4: you know, I'll take it with Met Gates.
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you.
Speaker 14: When I looked at that, I was thinking about you
Speaker 14: know what I what I had thought is I heard
Speaker 14: about the dial groups from the insiders of the campaign.
Speaker 14: I thought, you know, David Pluff, David Binder, the focus group,
Speaker 14: pulling impresario from Obama who's now working for Harris. They
Speaker 14: are not like champagne popping types. You know, they're like
Speaker 14: they like try to keep But they were metaphorically popping
Speaker 14: champagne corks last night. At how well that are handed
Speaker 14: it did in the Trump world. They were popping like
Speaker 14: either like male ex or conapin, I don't know which,
Speaker 14: but they were.
Speaker 1: They were not there.
Speaker 14: And when those guys showed up and I looked at them,
Speaker 14: I was like, those guys are either very very sad,
Speaker 14: very very drugged up, or.
Speaker 1: Someone killed their pets.
Speaker 14: Maybe that's they lost their They looked like a bunch
Speaker 14: of guys who have their had their cats and dogs
Speaker 14: like taken out by some imaginary Haitians in Ohio.
Speaker 4: Yeah, take it from the sad Man and the sketchers.
Speaker 4: I think that's how the debate weds. Be sure to
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