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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm shocked that how they're playing.

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Speaker 3: Playing really well? Yeah, they're playing really well.

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Speaker 1: They can pass and shoot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and like.

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Speaker 4: You can just you can tell that they're all in.

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Speaker 4: I mean as of right now, like the way they're playing,

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Speaker 4: they're just they're all in. They're all playing well, they're

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Speaker 4: all feeding off each other. And where's the big hy from.

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Speaker 4: I know he's a farm player, but where is he from?

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Speaker 3: Montenegro? Yeh, Montenegro. Yeah, Buzzelles took a leap to this offseason.

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Speaker 1: I like this game.

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Speaker 4: He's from he went to high school outside Chicago too, Well,

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Speaker 5: Are the European good Bozells? I think he's like, I

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Speaker 5: think it's European. He's from high school in America, hens

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Speaker 5: down Aperville. Wait really, yes, I thought he came over.

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Speaker 3: They said from Chicago. I'm like, it's from Hensdale.

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Speaker 2: And the young man from Minnesota's really gotten a lot better.

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Speaker 2: It's a trey I played a duke, I think trade.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah they got yeah, they got a

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Speaker 6: good team. Like you can tell her all like they

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Speaker 6: they moved the ball, they shared of all day and

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Speaker 6: it's and it's when you do that, and obviously I

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Speaker 6: think they're like five to one right now or six

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Speaker 6: success the success of you know, as a team and individually,

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Speaker 6: when you're playing that way, it makes you want to

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Speaker 6: buy in, like even more so, Okay, this is whatever

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Speaker 6: we're doing is like is right, and it's like then

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Speaker 6: you don't have as much like pushback, like individual agendas

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Speaker 6: because you see you're like you're reaping the benefits of

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Speaker 6: just what it looks like just buying in.

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Speaker 1: You know, I had Recall on my team with the

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Speaker 1: nixt is the end of his.

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Speaker 3: Career, Oh RC man r C. That's ther guy.

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Speaker 4: He jumps started my career like I he was Dallas.

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Speaker 4: He's definitely a goofy guy.

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Speaker 3: He's just goofy.

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Speaker 4: But one thing that he knows about he knows exs

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Speaker 4: ands Like he's really good with this stuff and like

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Speaker 4: no matter what, Like there are times obviously I got

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Speaker 4: d MPAs where I played, but when I was out there,

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Speaker 4: he was just like, go be aggressive, gold just do you.

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Speaker 2: And it's got a great mind. He tells the story

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Speaker 2: about me when I was with the Knicks and uh.

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Speaker 2: We were in bed foul trouble of playing the Phoenix Suns.

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Speaker 2: And he gets up and tells people this, and everybody

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Speaker 2: embellishes their stories. And I put him in the game,

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Speaker 2: and I said, Rick, I'm gonna tell you right now,

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Speaker 2: don't let the guys go by you like the last game.

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Speaker 2: Just keep him in front. Don't let him go by you.

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Speaker 2: Guys goes by him all Rick, don't let it happ

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Speaker 2: don't let him go buy you again, time out.

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Speaker 1: Let him go by.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you tomorrow you're going on a peta pan

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Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna pay for your flight.

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Speaker 2: Don't let this get He tells everybody's story, and I

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Speaker 2: kept him in the game.

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Speaker 1: I had keky.

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Speaker 2: Vandaway at the end of his career. I had Rick

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Speaker 2: carl out. But Rick, he could really play. He could

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Speaker 2: really play. He was really, really intelligent. It does not

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Speaker 2: shock me that he's a great coach today because he

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Speaker 2: really understood how to play. He could shoot and pass

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Speaker 2: with anyone. But defense was and he had great size.

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Speaker 2: You know, he has good size for a backcourt play

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Speaker 2: six fives, yep. But he defensively. He was at the

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Speaker 2: end of his career and Rick, just don't let him

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Speaker 2: go by you, that's all. Just keep him in front

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Speaker 3: One question for you.

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Speaker 5: So we had joke him Noah on the pod, and

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Speaker 5: he talked about how unsurprised he was that Billy Donovan

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Speaker 5: has had such a successful NBA career. I'm curious, from

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Speaker 5: like a lot of amazing college coaches make the leap

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Speaker 5: and what the biggest difference is between I.

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Speaker 2: Had a little advantage because I worked for Ub Brown

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Speaker 2: as an assistant. I don't ever recommend any college coach

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Speaker 2: it's it's a totally different brand of coaching, totally different brand.

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Speaker 2: You know, you have to manage people, you have to

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Speaker 2: keep the player's legs fresh, and you have to strategize

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Speaker 5: Yes, and you can't talk maybe talk to a thirty

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Speaker 2: It's not so much that it's the coaching in practice,

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Speaker 2: you know, you can't everything with us is practice. In

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Speaker 2: he goes about it. But he loves the NBA, loves

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Speaker 2: the NBA. Didn't want to go back to college at all.

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Speaker 2: I called him about the Indiana job, the Kentucky job,

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Speaker 2: He loves the NBA, gets along with his play is great.

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Speaker 2: He he had Maury's cheeks with him for a long

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Speaker 2: he he's adjusted really really well. But some of the

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Speaker 2: other guys don't adjust to it. They they need to

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Speaker 2: be an assistant first and find out what it's all

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Speaker 2: about in dealing with the NBA athlete. Yeah, right, Are

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Speaker 6: Uh, We're pretty easy.

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, we have we have no actual assholes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah he's an asshole, but not really like we have

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Speaker 4: a bunch of good dudes. I mean, we have moments

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Speaker 4: of other guys like teams do you have moments, but we

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Speaker 4: have no like troublemakers.

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Speaker 3: But he's he's he's right, you can you can handle him.

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Speaker 2: I mean because eighty two games and playoffs. It's a

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Speaker 3: I mean you're seeing each other every day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just not going well.

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Speaker 3: You're knowing to each other.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, on the road you go out with each other sometimes.

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Speaker 6: It just it just all it just all depends and

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Speaker 6: you bring that on the plane, you go to your room,

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Speaker 6: So like now, like the generations, it's different. You might

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Speaker 3: I haven't felt the it's to like really go out though, Yeah, get.

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Speaker 1: Tired any plane.

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Speaker 4: I stopped playing because we had a couple a couple

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Speaker 6: They were playing boo and you know how boo work gets,

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Speaker 3: I'll stay away from it. I'll just be chilling on

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Speaker 4: First of all, I don't know what people who like

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Speaker 6: Like my thing is, I feel like I said this

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Speaker 4: He was he was watching Rush Hour one or two

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Speaker 6: I'd be like I was like, man, that's a great scene.

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Speaker 3: Exit out, and then I'll go to the next one.

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Speaker 6: I'll go to like Hayful eight. I'll watch like one scene.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, dang, Josh watched watched the equalizer scene, probably

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Speaker 4: three flights in a row, like last.

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Speaker 1: Year, Barce.

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Speaker 6: Yes, great scene comes. Just like if I want to

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna just watch Double Club.

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Speaker 1: This is the Denzel scene.

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Speaker 1: Now we got some fan questions.

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Speaker 6: You know, whenever we have a guest, always kind of

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Speaker 6: then there's you some questions all the way. So we

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Speaker 6: have Optimistic Nick favorite Italian restaurant in Lexington.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's been so long since I've been in Lexington, Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: I only know Jeff Ruby's.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't even know if they have an

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Speaker 1: Italian restaurant Lexington. There's nothing. I think. I was the only.

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Speaker 5: North Side Nebille. Favorite moment of your coaching career.

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Speaker 1: Favorite moment I would I would say every single day.

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Speaker 1: I just loved coaching.

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Speaker 3: Love.

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Speaker 2: I can't say it's a special game, a special moment,

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Speaker 2: because every year there's always special moments, there's always down moments.

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Speaker 2: But because my window is closing in you know, I'm

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Speaker 4: Thomas Usaka, Rick, would you ever consider coaching in the

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Speaker 4: NBA again? After all these ideals became a factor and

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Speaker 4: then next question, do you see Josh or me becoming

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Speaker 2: So I couldn't coach in the pros again, I couldn't

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Speaker 2: coach one hundred games again. I don't think I'm physically

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Speaker 2: in the euro League again because I love to travel.

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Speaker 2: You know, I've been to Moscow, Saint Petersburg, Berlin. I

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Speaker 2: do whatever you want to do coaching wise. You know,

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Speaker 2: there's certain guys that I said would never be my

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Speaker 2: my video. My graduate assistant from New Jersey called me

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Speaker 2: up and said, look, I want to come to Kentucky

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Speaker 2: style of play. I want to be a coach, I said,

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Speaker 2: Frank listen Man. Go to Rutgies, go to Villanova, go

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Speaker 2: to Saint Joe's be a GA there. I met him

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Speaker 2: at the five Star camp. He decided no, I want

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Speaker 2: I started a JV team. Then he became a manager,

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Speaker 2: a video guy, and it's Frank Vogel. Wow, So you

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Speaker 2: know it's it's you be surprised today. You know it's

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Speaker 2: it's from Rick carl Out to Billy Donovan to Frank Vogel,

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Speaker 2: guys that I've been with. I drafted Chauncey Billups and uh,

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Speaker 2: he became a head coach and you never know. You

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Speaker 2: say some people, no, they're not going to go into coaching,

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Speaker 2: and they do because they still have a love for

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Speaker 2: the game and it beats it beats what they're doing

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Speaker 2: would be terrific coaches because you know the game and

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Speaker 2: you're unselfish. You play to win, and that's that's most

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Speaker 2: of the keys about coaching. You've got to you gotta

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Speaker 2: put winning above everything else, and you do whatever you

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Speaker 2: can to win, even if it's you know, I remember

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Speaker 2: Red all Back.

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Speaker 1: I'll leave with this.

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Speaker 2: The Red all Back said to me, you know, I'm

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Speaker 2: watching those time outs, your pens going one hundred miles

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Speaker 2: an hour, and why don't you do what I did?

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Speaker 2: Have them all stand up in a huddle and say

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Speaker 2: to them, what do you think, guys, what should I run?

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Speaker 2: That's what you did. I'd say to Russell, what do

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Speaker 2: you think, Russ? What should we run? I say to Kuzi,

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Speaker 2: what do you think we should run? Havletchek, what do

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Speaker 2: you think we should run? And they would, they would,

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Speaker 2: they would give it, Give it to me, let Who's

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Speaker 2: take it?

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Speaker 3: Let?

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Speaker 2: I said, Okay, I'm gonna try it. So we're playing

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Speaker 2: the Lakers at home in Boston. I got Antoine Walker,

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Speaker 2: in the starting lineup, and we're with down one cold

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Speaker 2: time out.

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Speaker 1: I said, guys, what do you think we should run?

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Speaker 1: What do you think? Mercy dead silence? What do you think?

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Speaker 2: And I told this story to read Alle back that night,

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Speaker 2: and he almost choked with laughter. I said, Twin, what

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Speaker 2: do you think he says the F word?

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Speaker 1: How to F?

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Speaker 3: Do?

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Speaker 1: I know?

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Speaker 2: You're to coach. That's what you get paid to do.

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Speaker 2: We get paid to play. You get paid the coach.

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Speaker 2: So I told read that story. He said, stand them

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Speaker 2: up next time. They they won't shut up? And uh

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Speaker 2: do they in huddles, will the coach ask you guys.

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Speaker 3: What you think?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I think that's important. I do it

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Speaker 2: now with Zubia Captain. I said, what do you think, Zube?

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