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Speaker 1: Friedman alongside Jack Summers and Jack Just as we all expected,
Speaker 1: the Arizona Diamondbacks finished the first half of their season
Speaker 1: going into LA and not just winning the series, but
Speaker 1: sweeping the Los Angeles Dodgers. They did it in emphatic fashion,
Speaker 1: outscoring LA twenty three to eight. The Dodgers made all
Speaker 1: sorts of mistakes over the weekend. The Diamondbacks played some
Speaker 1: of the best defense that we've seen from them. It
Speaker 1: was a very impressive showing all the way around.
Speaker 2: Somewhat shocking the way the Saturday and Sunday games turned out.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you have Momoto on the mound,
Speaker 2: uh and he'd only given up one run, and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, they just bang him for five more.
Speaker 2: Certainly didn't expect to see that. I think that really
Speaker 2: that punch in the mouth really shocked the Dodgers. It
Speaker 2: was shocking how badly they played. I mean, they were
Speaker 2: the top defensive rated team by fielding run value at
Speaker 2: stack cast. I believe, you know, in the Major League
Speaker 2: Baseball d Backs were number two. I kind of felt
Speaker 2: the whole series like, Wow, they're really missing Will Smith.
Speaker 2: That just kind of really stuck with me. And then
Speaker 2: on Sunday, they clearly wanted to win. I mean, they
Speaker 2: put in all their starters, you know, they kept them
Speaker 2: in all game. I mean they were trying to win.
Speaker 2: They like they didn't want the embarrassment of being swept,
Speaker 2: and you know, the Dbacks still come back and beat them.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, very impressive that that sixth inning yesterday.
Speaker 2: I'm sure we're going to get to that as we
Speaker 2: get into the details, but that was just mind blowing
Speaker 2: defense one, two, three, It's just incredible stuff. So it
Speaker 2: was fun series, fun weekend, certainly on expect.
Speaker 1: The Diamondbacks with this sweep, was their first sweep at
Speaker 1: Dodger Stadium since September fourth to six of twenty seventeen,
Speaker 1: and that series was particularly memorable for Diamondbacks fans because
Speaker 1: that's when JD. Martinez had his four home run game.
Speaker 1: It was the first game of that series. Robbie Ray
Speaker 1: I looked back at the box score Robbie Ray also
Speaker 1: through seven to two third scoreless innings with fourteen strikeouts.
Speaker 1: Somehow that performance gets, you know, kind of overshadowed by
Speaker 1: what JD did in that game. But just to give
Speaker 1: a little perspective, it's been almost a decade since the
Speaker 1: Diamondbacks had managed to do this. Granted, there's also what
Speaker 1: happened in twenty twenty three, which I guess was not
Speaker 1: was not all at Dodger Stadium, but two of those
Speaker 1: games were, and that probably feels much more significant than
Speaker 1: this sweep or the series back in twenty seventeen. But nonetheless,
Speaker 1: some of the Diamondbacks have really not been able to
Speaker 1: do much of in recent history, and I thought it
Speaker 1: was interesting after the finale of this series, Jack Paul
Speaker 1: Sewald said he was very open about this. He said,
Speaker 1: every game matters a lot before August third, and it
Speaker 1: felt that way. Over the course of the weekend, it
Speaker 1: felt like the Diamondbacks were truly going all out and
Speaker 1: trying to do everything they possibly could and had a
Speaker 1: recognition of truly how important every single game is between
Speaker 1: now and the trade deadline. We saw this last year
Speaker 1: where the Diamondbacks pressed going into the deadline and it was,
Speaker 1: you know, some of the worst baseball we saw them
Speaker 1: play all season. Maybe this twenty twenty sixteen can flip
Speaker 1: the script and get hot and do what needs to
Speaker 1: be done to force Mike Haysen's hand going into August third.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it was really interesting when Paul said that,
Speaker 2: and I kind of utilized that on Twitter. I quote
Speaker 2: tweeted Jody's post of that interview because a lot of
Speaker 2: people still feel like, well, it's still early, there's a
Speaker 2: long way a lot of baseball left to play, but
Speaker 2: they're all looking at this in the context of the
Speaker 2: trade deadline, which is right around the corner. And so
Speaker 2: that's the key, you know, because if they don't play
Speaker 2: well between now and August third, or a week before that,
Speaker 2: then they're going to be in a situation where Mike's
Speaker 2: not going to want to add to the team or
Speaker 2: he may even sell off pieces. And none of them
Speaker 2: want to be in that position. Again. Now, why did
Speaker 2: it take a couple of bad games in San Diego
Speaker 2: to have them get that sense of urgency? Was it? Really?
Speaker 2: You know? I mean they were flat for two games
Speaker 2: in San Diego and played sloppy baseball, and that was
Speaker 2: that was very disheartening to see and they needed quite
Speaker 2: the wake up call should have happened earlier. And you know,
Speaker 2: so any criticisms that fall back on the manager and
Speaker 2: the coaching staff for not helping the players get prepared,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to push back against that at all.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, it's up to the players
Speaker 2: to do it and go out and perform and perform
Speaker 2: like you know, it's necessary right now, and they showed
Speaker 2: that this weekend in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: Getting into the details here, of course, we already discussed
Speaker 1: the Friday game in our post game show on Friday night,
Speaker 1: but we'll start We'll start from the end here the finale.
Speaker 1: Diamondbacks win five to three. Mitch Bratt started this game
Speaker 1: for the Diamondbacks. We'll get into what happened with Zach
Speaker 1: Gallen a little bit later in the show, but Bratt
Speaker 1: was called upon to make this start for Arizona. He
Speaker 1: didn't look great. His first pitch was an eighty nine
Speaker 1: mile per hour center cup fastball to show i Otani,
Speaker 1: and Otani did sort of what you expect and hit
Speaker 1: it about four hundred and thirty feet. Bratt was not
Speaker 1: sharp for those three innings. The Diamondbacks trailed three nothing
Speaker 1: at that point, and then the bullpen just dominated the
Speaker 1: rest of the way. Diamondbacks bullpen.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: It was six innings, It was not only no runs,
Speaker 1: but it was no hits. In fact, Dre Jamison is
Speaker 1: the only d Backs reliever the entire weekend who allowed
Speaker 1: a base hit. Dbacks relievers did not allow a hit
Speaker 1: on Saturday or Sunday. It was just Dre who allowed
Speaker 1: the two hits in the game on Friday. So really
Speaker 1: impressive stuff from the Diamondbacks bullpen, and they were able
Speaker 1: to get just enough offense as well to claw their
Speaker 1: way back and ultimately win this game five to three.
Speaker 1: Tim Tala kind of put the exclamation point on this
Speaker 1: one in the ninth inning with a solo home run.
Speaker 1: Gave the d Backs a bit more of a cushion there.
Speaker 1: And what a series it was for Tim Taba Jacks
Speaker 1: seven for thirteen, two homers, two doubles, seven runs batted in.
Speaker 1: Wasn't just the Friday game. He really made a statement
Speaker 1: the entire weekend.
Speaker 2: That was a lot of fun tweeting out that in
Speaker 2: a secret transaction, Christian wat transferred the d to Dodger
Speaker 2: Stadium over to Tim Tala. Obviously that's hype, but pastic
Speaker 2: series for Tim. Great to see. I mean, the deep
Speaker 2: Jacks really needed that production from first base, and Tim
Speaker 2: Tower really needed to, you know, come in hot and
Speaker 2: show that he can be a major league player. You know,
Speaker 2: he's been slapped by most fans with that four A label,
Speaker 2: and I've always felt like the potential was there for
Speaker 2: Tim to play and hit a lot better than he
Speaker 2: has in the major leagues. He got off to a
Speaker 2: very good start and as we pointed out last show
Speaker 2: in his first thirteen games in Major league baseball, and
Speaker 2: then just struggled for the longest time after that. And
Speaker 2: you know, of course his first eighty or so played
Speaker 2: appearances this year, so you know, goes to tripa a
Speaker 2: bangs the ball off of every wall and over every wall,
Speaker 2: and then comes back and plays like he's played this
Speaker 2: past weekend. Fantastic to see, you know, And I hope
Speaker 2: he can not keep up this pace, because nobody could.
Speaker 2: But you know, I hope that he's able to continue
Speaker 2: to contribute and be a strong contributor at the bottom
Speaker 2: of the order. The Dbacks really need that, and that
Speaker 2: may take some of the urgency off of Mike, you know,
Speaker 2: to go out and overpay for a bet or a
Speaker 2: first baseman at the trade deadline. I mean, if they
Speaker 2: come out of the All Star break and Tim just
Speaker 2: picks up where he left off, then you know you
Speaker 2: have a completely different dynamic of what might may be
Speaker 2: looking to do.
Speaker 1: I think what made this sweep so so striking is
Speaker 1: that the Diamondbacks got almost nothing from their top three hitters,
Speaker 1: and that's just been such a huge storyline the whole
Speaker 1: season is that you know, if Katl Perdomo, Carrol, and
Speaker 1: I guess Moreno is part of that group as well,
Speaker 1: if those guys don't do it, it's not going to
Speaker 1: happen for this offense. And Marte, Perdomo and Carol, the
Speaker 1: top three hitters combined to go two for thirty six
Speaker 1: with eleven strikeouts in this series, and yet the bottom
Speaker 1: of the order just carried so much of the load.
Speaker 1: Eildamar Vargas had a couple of hits in the game
Speaker 1: on Sunday we mentioned what Tim Tawa managed to do.
Speaker 1: James McCann had a huge game on Saturday hit a
Speaker 1: couple of homers there. Nolan Arnado had a nice series
Speaker 1: as well, RBI double in the game yesterday, and it
Speaker 1: was the kind of performance from the bottom of the
Speaker 1: lineup that I'm not sure I knew it was possible.
Speaker 1: I mean, it just didn't feel like the bottom of
Speaker 1: the lineup could carry the Diamondbacks over the course of
Speaker 1: an entire series, much less against a team like the Dodgers.
Speaker 1: But there were contributions just from all over the place
Speaker 1: from the bottom two thirds of the lineup, and the
Speaker 1: Diamondbacks have gotten as little as any team in baseball
Speaker 1: from that group over the course of the season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rob Friedman pointed out that Yamamoto had not allowed
Speaker 2: a home run on a sinker all year, and of
Speaker 2: course James McCann had homer it all year, So of
Speaker 2: course what happens. We have a you can't predict baseball
Speaker 2: moment and McCann's, you know, hits a three on homer
Speaker 2: just landed on top of that shelf. But that would
Speaker 2: have been a home run in twenty seven out of
Speaker 2: thirty ballpark, So it wasn't a cheap eat in that regard.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm almost beware that's a home run. But
Speaker 2: that was just a perfectly encapsulated moment for this whole
Speaker 2: series right there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they and they intentionally walked to Nolan Arnado beforehand,
Speaker 1: which I was a little surprised by that. Obviously, Arnado
Speaker 1: has much better numbers this year than McCann, but last
Speaker 1: year McCann actually had better numbers. And it just felt
Speaker 1: to me like, if you're a Yoshinobu Yamamoto, you're not
Speaker 1: like that afraid of facing Nolan Arnado in that moment.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, Jack, I guess he Yamamoto sort
Speaker 1: of attempted bait there. And James mccannon talked after the
Speaker 1: game about there being a bit of a pride element
Speaker 1: when the guy in front of you gets intentionally walked,
Speaker 1: and he responded not only with that three run home run,
Speaker 1: but another home run later in the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then of course Brandon fought. I mean, he
Speaker 2: was absolutely fabulous, you know. I mean, he was perfect
Speaker 2: through the first three innings, twenty seven pitches, nine nine down.
Speaker 2: It doesn't get any better than that, you know. Now,
Speaker 2: he pitched out of trouble in the fourth inning. He
Speaker 2: had first and third jam with I think one out,
Speaker 2: and he got out of that jam very impressively. You know,
Speaker 2: gotta pop out, got a ground out, you know, and
Speaker 2: he'ssally pitching through the teeth of their order too, So
Speaker 2: that was and then he comes right back out for
Speaker 2: the fifth, three up, three down, gave up a couple
Speaker 2: of runs in the sixth, and you know, Tory got
Speaker 2: him out of there, which I was fine with. But
Speaker 2: for me, the biggest thing with Brandon's outing is just
Speaker 2: I'm loving what I'm seeing in the way he's sequencing
Speaker 2: and attacking left hand hitters. You know, he's basically ditched
Speaker 2: the sinker. It's fastballs, fastballs up and then the change
Speaker 2: up and curveball looked really good, you know, and then
Speaker 2: that mix and the way he's executing on those pitches
Speaker 2: has really made all the difference in his ability to control, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, in this case a very strong left hand
Speaker 2: hitting lineup. So you know that's the recipe. Uh, you know,
Speaker 2: just go with the force eimer, change up, curveball, and
Speaker 2: I think that's enough for him if he executes on
Speaker 2: those pitches, don't use don't bother with the sweeper against
Speaker 2: left ease, and you know, ditch the sinker. Those aren't
Speaker 2: going to be very effective there. So they've got a
Speaker 2: new game plan and you know between that and has
Speaker 2: cleaned up, streamedlined mechanics. You know, he looks like a
Speaker 2: different guy. Still got some of that third time through
Speaker 2: the order bugaboo, But you know most pictures do. Most
Speaker 2: pictures struggle the third time through unless they're elite. So
Speaker 2: you know, we'll still have to keep an eye on that.
Speaker 2: You know, hopefully he's able to get over that hump
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: Brandon Garcia very much saved the day there in that
Speaker 1: sixth inning, Dodgers turned a six nothing Dbacks lead into
Speaker 1: six to two, still had a couple of guys on base,
Speaker 1: and then yeah, who else with Brandon Garcia to come
Speaker 1: in and get the d Backs out of that. Jam
Speaker 1: Garcia has been outstanding for the Diamondbacks. Just comparing the
Speaker 1: bullpens in the series, the d Backs twelve and two
Speaker 1: thirds innings two hits allowed the whole weekend again, just
Speaker 1: the two by Dre Jamison, one run, two walks, fourteen strikeouts.
Speaker 1: The Dodgers' bullpen. On the other hand, d Backs of
Speaker 1: course did a lot of damage against the Dodgers' bullpen
Speaker 1: in their bullpen game on Friday, and then d Backs
Speaker 1: continued to be able to score against that group. Dodgers
Speaker 1: bullpen fourteen innings of work in the series, twelve runs,
Speaker 1: eight of the merned, so there were four unearned runs. Again,
Speaker 1: this was about the sloppiest series that we've seen from
Speaker 1: the Dodgers that I can remember. But yeah, not real
Speaker 1: often that you see the Diamondbacks bullpen just utterly, you know,
Speaker 1: outperformed the opposing bullpen by a wide margin. Yet that
Speaker 1: was a big part of the narrative of this series.
Speaker 1: So really really impressive weekend for the Diamondbacks. Of course,
Speaker 1: the standings now look quite a bit different, quite a
Speaker 1: bit more interesting than they did a few days ago.
Speaker 1: So on the other side of this break, we're going
Speaker 1: to talk about the standings where the dbacs sit right now.
Speaker 1: We'll also discuss Zach Gallon and his situation, get to
Speaker 1: some other injury updates as well, So don't go anywhere.
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Speaker 2: Jack.
Speaker 1: On Friday, in our postgame show, we were talking about
Speaker 1: Zach Gallon and how it appeared were maybe going to
Speaker 1: use an opener for his start on Sunday. It looks
Speaker 1: like that's the direction that the things were headed, and
Speaker 1: yet that did not wind up happening. In fact, Zach
Speaker 1: Gallon did not make his Sunday start at all. Instead,
Speaker 1: we received word over the weekend that Gallon was going
Speaker 1: on the injured list with right elbow inflammation. According to
Speaker 1: Diamondbacks manager Tory Lavello, Gallon had some discomfort in his
Speaker 1: elbow after his start against San Diego. He had an MRI.
Speaker 1: Those that MRI showed only in inflammation, so no structural
Speaker 1: damage or anything. But it doesn't look like a foregone
Speaker 1: conclusion that Gallon will return after the minimum fifteen days.
Speaker 1: Tory said it would be at least fifteen, so we'll
Speaker 1: see what happens here. Obviously, it hasn't been a good
Speaker 1: season at all for Zach Gallen, But on the other hand,
Speaker 1: this rotation is thinned out quite a bit here in
Speaker 1: the last month and it would probably be good for
Speaker 1: them to get him back sooner than later.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, combined with the Soroka situation where he
Speaker 2: was pushed back. I think we talked about that on
Speaker 2: Friday as well. You know, I'm not sure that Michael
Speaker 2: Soroka is going to make it back before you know,
Speaker 2: July twenty fifth or thirtieth anyway, so you know, they're
Speaker 2: now they're kind of up against it. Obviously a lot
Speaker 2: of people will feel like Zach going down as addition
Speaker 2: by subtraction, he was having a really rough year. But
Speaker 2: the bottom line is he is not eligible to return
Speaker 2: before July twenty fourth, and it's going to be at
Speaker 2: least that long. As Tori said, maybe you know, he
Speaker 2: comes back before the trade deadline. I don't know if
Speaker 2: there's any showcasing to be done. You know, maybe Soroka
Speaker 2: makes it back before the trade deadline. But the Dbacks
Speaker 2: are really going to, you know, have to find a
Speaker 2: way to patch together innings. Obviously, Mitch Bratt didn't have
Speaker 2: a great game yesterday. We expect them to bring back
Speaker 2: Jose Cabrera after the break and slot him back into
Speaker 2: the rotation. So, you know, I think that it's pretty
Speaker 2: strong likelihood that if Mike Haysen does end up, you know,
Speaker 2: making a buy type trade, he's going to be looking
Speaker 2: for a starting pitcher.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's probably fair, and I mean, certainly
Speaker 1: it would not come cheaply. You wouldn't expect it to.
Speaker 1: So part of me is maybe skeptical that Mike Hasen
Speaker 1: would push the Chips in to the extent of getting
Speaker 1: a starter, because I do think the cost there would
Speaker 1: be pretty pretty high. But that brings us into our
Speaker 1: standings and where the Diamondbacks sit after this weekend sweep.
Speaker 1: Things are looking quite a bit better here. They are
Speaker 1: now just two and a half games behind the Miami Marlins,
Speaker 1: who are now have sole possession of that third wild
Speaker 1: card spot. The Phillies have kind of moved moved up
Speaker 1: a couple of games. D Bacs still have two teams
Speaker 1: between them and that third wild card spot. It's the
Speaker 1: Pirate and the Cardinals, but the San Diego Padres are
Speaker 1: now a game below the Diamondbacks and the Washington Nationals
Speaker 1: now a game and a half below them. So I
Speaker 1: think a few days ago you looked at the standings
Speaker 1: and it was sort of like, all right, you're still
Speaker 1: in striking distance, but this feels like a serious uphill
Speaker 1: battle and it probably isn't worth pushing the chips in
Speaker 1: on this team. I think if the d Backs maintain
Speaker 1: this sort of position going into the trade deadline, I
Speaker 1: do think this is a scenario where Mike Hazen would
Speaker 1: push the chips in. And I guess that brings us
Speaker 1: to this lovely little by Sello meter that we keep
Speaker 1: going back to, and we've got it leaning toward the
Speaker 1: by side, not all the way toward the by side,
Speaker 1: but I think the d Backs are comfortably within that
Speaker 1: range right now at two and a half games out
Speaker 1: of the playoffs.
Speaker 2: I do believe that Mike's going to make some kind
Speaker 2: of push unless they come out of the break and
Speaker 2: fall flat on their face. You know, even if they,
Speaker 2: like say, went three and three or something in their
Speaker 2: first six games out of the break, I think they're
Speaker 2: still likely to want to try to add to the team.
Speaker 2: But how he adds, what kind of players he's looking,
Speaker 2: will be influences very much by how they do in
Speaker 2: that first part of the schedule. You know, if you
Speaker 2: take a look at the schedule coming up out of
Speaker 2: the break, I mean, it's really you know, you got
Speaker 2: three against the Cardinals, and then you've got three against
Speaker 2: the A's, and then you've got to go to Saint
Speaker 2: Louis and play a game that makeup game for the
Speaker 2: rein out, and then you play the Washington Nationals and
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Pirates. So you know, you've got ten games
Speaker 2: against teams that you're fighting for the playoff spot. If
Speaker 2: you look at the trade deadline, it's the third of August,
Speaker 2: but they got to make decisions before that, and they
Speaker 2: probably got to make their final like directional push by
Speaker 2: July twenty fifth or twenty six. It would be my
Speaker 2: guest now if they came out and won five in
Speaker 2: a row or six in a row through July twenty second,
Speaker 2: or one five out of seven, you know, including that
Speaker 2: game in Saint Louis, that might be enough to push
Speaker 2: Mike into that strong by position. So still some games
Speaker 2: to play yet before I think they make their final
Speaker 2: determination of where they're at. I could be wrong. They
Speaker 2: may have already decided based on what they saw this
Speaker 2: past weekend, but they're generally pretty conservative and they want
Speaker 2: to gather all the information that they can before they
Speaker 2: make a decision. So that's my guess, look for you know,
Speaker 2: maybe that first ball to drop around the twenty fifth
Speaker 2: or so thereabouts.
Speaker 1: I think, especially with this team, it is important to
Speaker 1: you know, not let the highs be too high or
Speaker 1: the lows be too low, right, I mean a few
Speaker 1: days ago, after that second loss in San Diego, it
Speaker 1: was like, all right, this team, it really doesn't feel
Speaker 1: like this season is going anywhere. And then in typical
Speaker 1: Diamondbacks fashion, right, they come back and they peak your
Speaker 1: interest again. They go out and they win the finale
Speaker 1: in San Diego, they sweep the Dodgers, and now they're
Speaker 1: right back in the thick of it. As I've said
Speaker 1: many times on this show, for this organization, things are
Speaker 1: rarely as good as they seem at times or as
Speaker 1: bad as they seem at times. This team tends to
Speaker 1: settle somewhere in the middle and keep your interest while
Speaker 1: maybe not quite Yes, yes, they're very good at alluring
Speaker 1: people back in from time to time after they lose interest.
Speaker 1: Certainly this weekend was that we do have some more
Speaker 1: trade deadline topics to get into. There was an interesting
Speaker 1: story from our good friend Bob Nightingale over the weekend.
Speaker 1: But before we get there, I did want to mention
Speaker 1: one other injury update. Tommy Troy unfortunately hurt his shoulder
Speaker 1: in the game on Saturday. Made a really nice catch
Speaker 1: up against the center field wall at Dodger Stadium, but
Speaker 1: it looked like he just didn't know exactly where he
Speaker 1: was when he made the play, and the level of
Speaker 1: impact on his shoulder or was a lot greater than
Speaker 1: I think he expected. So initially it was just announced
Speaker 1: as a contusion, but Tommy Troy after the game seems
Speaker 1: a little bit less sure about that diagnosis, And we
Speaker 1: just got word the d Backs are going to have
Speaker 1: him get an MRI in Arizona on Monday, so his
Speaker 1: status is kind of to be determined.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean a few days ago they had six outfielders.
Speaker 2: What are they gonna do with all these outfielders and
Speaker 2: now all of a sudden they do not. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So no no updates on Tommy just yet, but
Speaker 1: over the course of the All Star break, maybe we
Speaker 1: hear something there. Maybe it waits until the d Backs
Speaker 1: start things up again in Saint Louis on Friday, but
Speaker 1: hopefully all is well there.
Speaker 2: For that at Chase Field, they're home on Friday.
Speaker 1: Oh did I say they're on the road. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: they are playing against the Saint Louis Cardinals, but that
Speaker 1: is a home series. They will still have to play
Speaker 1: a road game against Saint Louis between now and the
Speaker 1: trade deadline because of that whole rainout situation that I
Speaker 1: don't think the organization is happy about, understandably so. But yes,
Speaker 1: that weekend series is at home against the Cardinals. Jack,
Speaker 1: I guess we'll jump into some of the trade deadline
Speaker 1: updates that we got here in the past twenty four
Speaker 1: hours or so. Bob Nightingale wrote a story on Sunday
Speaker 1: his Sunday column and had several topics relating to the
Speaker 1: Diamondbacks In there. He mentioned that the Tampa Bay Rays
Speaker 1: have interest in Katel Marte, but he also mentioned the
Speaker 1: d Backs have told teams that Kutel with his ten
Speaker 1: and five rights, would veto any deal that was offered.
Speaker 1: So I don't think Katel is going anywhere. We said
Speaker 1: it over the offseason. You know, once he got to
Speaker 1: the point of having ten and five rights, pretty unlikely
Speaker 1: he gets traded at any point in his Diamondbacks tenure.
Speaker 2: Well, there's one thing that could change that, and that
Speaker 2: would be that if at the end of the season.
Speaker 2: If Tory's let go, we're not brought back. You know,
Speaker 2: Katel has been very close to Tory and kind of
Speaker 2: looked at him almost like a father figure, And so
Speaker 2: if Tory wasn't there, Katl might change his mind. People
Speaker 2: change their minds in life. But I don't expect anything
Speaker 2: to happen as trade deadline for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The other interesting update in here was that the
Speaker 1: Phillies has shown on the screen have interest in Lordis
Speaker 1: Guriel junior. Phillies could use a right handed hitting outfielders.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of teams could. Unfortunately, Guriel's numbers
Speaker 1: are not particularly great. He's hitting two eleven with a
Speaker 1: five point fifty one ops. Seems like he's been pretty
Speaker 1: steadily kind of in that range at ops in the
Speaker 1: mid five hundreds for a while now. As we've said,
Speaker 1: he's hitting occasional singles, but he's slugging two ninety two.
Speaker 1: It's pretty much just all singles from him right now.
Speaker 1: It's a little hard for me to believe that the
Speaker 1: Lies actually have much interest in this version of Guriel,
Speaker 1: or at the very least that they'd be willing to
Speaker 1: give up much of anything to acquire him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not only that, but on Sunday, you know, he
Speaker 2: ran to his right on a line drive off the
Speaker 2: bat of Max Muncie, and as he was doing it,
Speaker 2: he really looked like his knee locked up. He winced
Speaker 2: and pained as his leg hit the ground, and he
Speaker 2: kind of like popped up, you know, like you know
Speaker 2: how you jump up when your knee locks. He did
Speaker 2: that maneuver, and then he like bent over and was
Speaker 2: playing with his pant leg. But really he was, you know,
Speaker 2: trying to recover from from a jolt that he got
Speaker 2: in his knee and then in his bat the next half,
Speaker 2: next half inning, he went down to one knee, and
Speaker 2: then he came out of the game, of course, which
Speaker 2: he probably would have anyway with Org Barossa going out
Speaker 2: to center field. So between those issues, I mean, I
Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if come Friday we find out that
Speaker 2: Lords has an issue as well. Didn't I didn't see
Speaker 2: any news about that after the game. But he's pretty
Speaker 2: banged up, and as you point out, he's not hitting.
Speaker 2: So if the Phillies were interested in him, I'm sure
Speaker 2: they had a scout in the stands in Los Angeles
Speaker 2: and they couldn't have liked what they saw, so I'm
Speaker 2: not all that optimistic that Philly would follow through on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the narrative of the series was very
Speaker 1: much like you know, you got you got a lot
Speaker 1: of production from unexpected places. Lords Guriel was not really
Speaker 1: a part of that. He went oh for nine in
Speaker 1: the Dodgers series with a couple of strikeouts. So uh yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe Buriel, in theory could could draw some interest and
Speaker 1: and maybe the Diamondbacks would be willing to deal him
Speaker 1: given that they do have some depth in the outfield,
Speaker 1: But kind of to be determined on that. Bob Nightingale
Speaker 1: also included in his story. He said the DBACH starters
Speaker 1: at Wardo Rodriguez, Michael Soroka, Merrill Kelly, and Zach Gallon
Speaker 1: could all be available via trade. He also mentioned Paul
Speaker 1: c Wald's name. Seawald finishes the first half twenty two
Speaker 1: for twenty three and save opportunities. He's rattled off a
Speaker 1: few good outings in a row, so I could maybe
Speaker 1: see other teams having some interest in Seawald at this point,
Speaker 1: but yeah, no huge surprises. Jack that if the dbacs
Speaker 1: were to sell, then all of those guys would would
Speaker 1: be on the table.
Speaker 2: Sure, you know, but Soroka and Need's approved, He's healthy.
Speaker 2: At Dwarter Rodriguez is still load over thirty million dollars
Speaker 2: and teams are going to be hesitant to absorb all
Speaker 2: of that, especially considering his peripherals. As great a season
Speaker 2: as he's having, Teams are not going to buy into
Speaker 2: a Dwarter Rodriguez being worth thirty million dollars to him
Speaker 2: over the next you know, eight months of baseball just
Speaker 2: based on his peripherals. As harsh as that may sound,
Speaker 2: and listen, I love what he's doing. Don't at me
Speaker 2: in the comments on this one, please, I'm.
Speaker 5: Just thinking, like a GM, They're not gonna you know,
Speaker 5: an opposing GM isn't going to take on all thirty
Speaker 5: plus million with a guy with a six for nine
Speaker 5: strikeout rate and three plus walk rate three plus per
Speaker 5: nine walk rate.
Speaker 2: That just doesn't really happen. I mean, they're they're going
Speaker 2: to have to look for how much the Dbacks are
Speaker 2: willing to absorb of that salary. So I don't know,
Speaker 2: I mean, somebody's got to pitch not only the rest
Speaker 2: of this season but next year as well, you know,
Speaker 2: So the Dbacks for what they would probably get back
Speaker 2: for Duarto. I think that they're better off just holding now.
Speaker 2: I could be completely wet on this. Sometimes teams grossly
Speaker 2: overpay for starting pitching at the deadline, And if the
Speaker 2: d Backs come out and you know, lay an egg
Speaker 2: the first six games and lose a bunch and some
Speaker 2: team wants to pony up more than they should for Eduardo,
Speaker 2: then they might pull the trigger there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's I think that's totally fair. I
Speaker 1: am in full agreement. I know there's been some chatter
Speaker 1: about the Diamondbacks making Eduardo Rodriguez available, but but yeah,
Speaker 1: I do not do not anticipate. I mean and hopefully
Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks writer are not in position to sell anyway,
Speaker 1: and they're looking to at a starter and not subtract
Speaker 1: to one. But even if they were, I think trading
Speaker 1: Eduardo very unlikely to make sense for them or probably
Speaker 1: other teams, given what the Dbacks would be looking for there.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of the story with the trade deadline.
Speaker 1: Some some good updates there from Bob Nightingale over the weekend.
Speaker 1: Of course, we'll continue to have these conversations in the
Speaker 1: coming days here in a moment while also talk about
Speaker 1: the draft what the Diamondbacks did in the early rounds.
Speaker 1: That's another thing that happened over the weekend. So much
Speaker 1: news to get to. Before we do that, though, it
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Speaker 1: he has looked lately a little hard to maybe take
Speaker 1: him as a home run threats right now, but who knows.
Speaker 1: He did just miss a home run in the game
Speaker 1: on Sunday. Got to hang and change up and almost
Speaker 1: hit it out. So maybe he's an option or I
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe we want to just take Tim Tawa
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Speaker 1: seems to be heating up.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think Corbyn is an interesting case study, right,
Speaker 2: you know, if he catch a branking pitch, then we
Speaker 2: know that breaking or off speed, he's got a good
Speaker 2: chance to put it out. Unfortunately, teams are just killing
Speaker 2: him with fastballs. Yeah, but it's the All Star Game,
Speaker 2: so he'd probably see mostly fastballs. But if he catches,
Speaker 2: you know, if he gets a shot at a breaking
Speaker 2: pitch or a change up, then then he might pop
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Speaker 2: sure if you're a Diamondback fan. But I'm going to
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Speaker 2: for a catcher, you know, gets his four days off,
Speaker 2: gets his legs back under him, I think he'll come
Speaker 2: right back out of the Gate rejuvenated and rested up well,
Speaker 2: and I think that'll benefit him as much as anybody else.
Speaker 2: So that's my guy.
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Speaker 1: Before we get out of here, we did want to
Speaker 1: touch just briefly on what the Diamondbacks did in the draft.
Speaker 1: I'll say on the front end in our Thursday show well,
Speaker 1: which will be our next episode. We're planning to have
Speaker 1: a special guest on who knows anything and everything about
Speaker 1: the drafts and will be able to help us dive
Speaker 1: more deeply into all of these guys. But we'll hit
Speaker 1: on at least a name or two here. Jack Diamondbacks
Speaker 1: in the first round took Ryder Helfric out of the
Speaker 1: University of Arkansas, a catcher. He was generally projected to
Speaker 1: go somewhere in the number seven to eleven range roughly
Speaker 1: looking at some of the mock drafts that were released publicly.
Speaker 1: He fell to the Diamondbacks at number fifteen, and they
Speaker 1: seem pretty happy about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were really excited to get him. You know.
Speaker 2: They line up their board and he fell to them
Speaker 2: and they grabbed him. Ian Rebin had some interesting comments
Speaker 2: about Helfric. One point that was really interesting to me
Speaker 2: was the book on Helfric was though he has power,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of swing and miss, and he has
Speaker 2: difficulty with spin. However, was adamant that Helfik made a
Speaker 2: lot of improvements during this past season, and really their
Speaker 2: underlying metrics showed that his ability to handle spin improved
Speaker 2: quite a bit. Defense is his calling card. He's got
Speaker 2: grades out terrifically both as he throws, as a game caller,
Speaker 2: framing everything, and a lot of power. He's got a
Speaker 2: lot of pop questions house the hit tool, but Rebin
Speaker 2: was very confident that the hit tool is better than
Speaker 2: the industry was thinking.
Speaker 1: We do have a quote a quote here from Ian
Speaker 1: Rebin himself. He said, I think you're getting a premium
Speaker 1: defensive catcher.
Speaker 6: Here.
Speaker 1: He led the entire country and all the objective defensive metrics.
Speaker 1: He can really throw, He controls the running game. I
Speaker 1: think he's one of the only college catchers in the
Speaker 1: country that are calling his own game. He can manage
Speaker 1: a pitching staff. And then, as you alluded to, Rebin continues,
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball, you're getting someone
Speaker 1: who's made a ton of strides in the last three years.
Speaker 1: He controls this zone. He's going to walk, he's going
Speaker 1: to get on base, he's going to hit for power.
Speaker 1: So I think you're getting a really intriguing catcher that
Speaker 1: is going to bring you value on both sides of
Speaker 1: the ball, both from a power and on base perspective,
Speaker 1: and then being an elite receiver. So yeah, this is
Speaker 1: a profile that we've seen succeed in the majors. It
Speaker 1: sounds a whole lot to me like cal rally if
Speaker 1: it all comes together, which I know that's a lofty
Speaker 1: comp to make, but a guy where the hit tool
Speaker 1: is not necessarily the best, but he draws walks and
Speaker 1: still finds his way on base, good defensively, has a
Speaker 1: lot of power. I think cal Rawley is sort of
Speaker 1: the type of player you could dream on here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just a note, It was on follow up question
Speaker 2: after Rebin did his rundown that we asked him about,
Speaker 2: you know, the hit tool and the spin issues, and
Speaker 2: that's when he responded that he felt like this past
Speaker 2: season in particular is where he made the improvements with
Speaker 2: regards to the spin issue.
Speaker 1: Diamondbacks with their competitive balance around a pick, We'll hit
Speaker 1: on that one real quick. They took right handed pitcher
Speaker 1: Blake Bryant out of Citizens Christian Academy, So High School
Speaker 1: a high school pick there, one of just two high
Speaker 1: school picks that the Diamondbacks made in all twenty rounds.
Speaker 1: And yeah, the calling card here is the athleticism. We
Speaker 1: have a quote here from Revn once again said this
Speaker 1: is all just all about just premium athleticism, premium strikes
Speaker 1: now stuff, velocity. Starting with him off the baseball field.
Speaker 1: I mean, he is an elite athlete, He was an
Speaker 1: exceptional basketball player in high school. Really intrigued by the athlete,
Speaker 1: just your prototypical projection high school pitcher that we think
Speaker 1: has a ton of development, runway, a ton of upside,
Speaker 1: and just really excited to get the raw traits that
Speaker 1: we're getting with Blake into the organization. He was I
Speaker 1: think MLB pipeline had him at number sixty five. But
Speaker 1: there's kind of a consensus going into the drafted after
Speaker 1: the first few picks, anything could happen, and there's there's
Speaker 1: quite a bit of depth in this draft as well.
Speaker 1: At least that was kind of the the industry perception.
Speaker 1: So interesting pick here, Jack. On one hand, it's maybe
Speaker 1: difficult to feel confident about the Diamondbacks taking a high
Speaker 1: school pitcher. I think we can be real about that
Speaker 1: and say, you know, their track record developing pitching in
Speaker 1: general is not great, and I guess they haven't tried
Speaker 1: it much with high school pitchers, but we don't have
Speaker 1: a ton of success stories there over the years. Nonetheless,
Speaker 1: this is a way to get really excellent stuff into
Speaker 1: your organization in a way that's harder to find coming
Speaker 1: out of college, you know, in that area.
Speaker 4: In the draft.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the big question is is Willie sign? The fact
Speaker 2: is is that Okay, he was ranked sixty fifth, he
Speaker 2: was picked thirty first, his slot values three point one
Speaker 2: two million dollars. But he was an early Clemson commit
Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty two. So you know, is this
Speaker 2: kid going to want to go to college? Is he
Speaker 2: going to be confident to go into the Diamondbacks organization?
Speaker 2: Is his representation going to say, hey, yeah, go ahead
Speaker 2: and sign with this team, you know? Or is he
Speaker 2: going to go with I shouldn't say representation. His advisors
Speaker 2: can't have representation. If you are going to go to college,
Speaker 2: if you hire an agent, then you're ineligible for the NCAA.
Speaker 2: So but he can't have an advisor. And are his
Speaker 2: advisors going to tell him, you know, hey, you need
Speaker 2: to go back to college because the d bacs are
Speaker 2: not the right place to try to develop a high
Speaker 2: school pitcher. So there's that potentiality. And this is kind
Speaker 2: of where Jeremy Blis is really going to make his
Speaker 2: money and earn his paycheck, right because these are the
Speaker 2: types of areas and the types of pictures. They brought
Speaker 2: in a lot of stuff guys, which we're here more
Speaker 2: about on Thursday, you know, and are they going to
Speaker 2: be able to develop these guys going forward? So interesting
Speaker 2: dynamic there one of only two high school players they
Speaker 2: took in the draft, you know, the other just I
Speaker 2: want to mention briefly, number eleven, Cody Bochell, a high
Speaker 2: school player that is a first baseman and a power
Speaker 2: first basement. So you know, they use their second high
Speaker 2: school pick on an eighteen year old that hits bombs,
Speaker 2: which is kind of intriguing, and again, will they be
Speaker 2: able to sign him, So keep your eyes out for that.
Speaker 2: In between that, they picked a lot of guys that
Speaker 2: were probably you can't say reached, but they were just
Speaker 2: ranked lower than their draft slot position. So the d
Speaker 2: bacs may be angling to save a little money to
Speaker 2: make sure that they can in other areas so that
Speaker 2: they can make sure they sign Blake and they can
Speaker 2: maybe go ahead and sign Boschelle as well.
Speaker 1: If memory serves here, Jack, I thinkast the last high
Speaker 1: school pitcher that the Diamondbacks took around this area in
Speaker 1: the draft, like really high up, I think is Blake Walston.
Speaker 1: Back in twenty nineteenth, d Backs took him twenty six overall,
Speaker 1: and you know, I remember at the time it was like,
Speaker 1: all right, this is a guy who's six', five you,
Speaker 1: know doesn't weigh a ton one's seventy one, eighty but
Speaker 1: he's very. Projectible, Right maybe he's throwing low nineties, now
Speaker 1: but you could dream on him throwing ninety five ninety
Speaker 1: six as he continues to. Mature and unfortunately that that
Speaker 1: just never happened For blake at least hasn't up to this.
Speaker 1: Point so, yeah the track record here isn't. Great but
Speaker 1: also the dbacs haven't haven't taken swings like this much
Speaker 1: in recent. Years so maybe With Jeremy blisch and some
Speaker 1: of the new pitching, infrastructure maybe they're they're better equipped
Speaker 1: to help someone like this reaches his. Potential so, interesting
Speaker 1: interesting pick. There if you want more draft, chatter we
Speaker 1: will give it to you in our next. Episode i'm
Speaker 1: just going to throw his name out. There we are
Speaker 1: planning to Have Jordan schusterman From Baseball, barbercast WHICH i
Speaker 1: think is pretty much the best baseball podcast on Planet,
Speaker 1: earth or number Two i'm, sure of, course But Baseball
Speaker 1: barbaricas is excellent what he does With Jake. Mince jordan
Speaker 1: knows the draft up and. Down WHEN i asked him
Speaker 1: if he would join, us he was, like oh, YEAH
Speaker 1: i can even talk about The diamondbacks twentieth round, pick
Speaker 1: which is something that very few people in this industry can.
Speaker 1: Say so On, Thursday we're excited to Have jordan on
Speaker 1: the show for a segment and then, yeah that will
Speaker 1: be our next. Episode of, Course All star break here
Speaker 1: the next couple of. Days hope everyone enjoys the home
Speaker 1: run derby, tonight The All Star game itself, tomorrow maybe
Speaker 1: we get to see that home run From Corbyn carrol
Speaker 1: or maybe we See Eduardo rodriguez get to throw an
Speaker 1: inning in that. Game should be a lot of fun to.
Speaker 1: Watch as, always you can find us on social. MEDIA
Speaker 1: i am At jesse And friedman On. Twitter jack is
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Speaker 1: diamondbacks ON. Si also want to shout Out Alex, dagostino
Speaker 1: who wrote this story that we're pulling quote from about the.
Speaker 1: Draft alex did a lot of great writing about The
Speaker 1: diamondbacks draft picks over, there so be sure to check
Speaker 1: that out as.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: Jack any final thoughts here as we head into The
Speaker 1: All star, Break.
Speaker 2: WELL i WISH i could say THAT i was going
Speaker 2: off to do a bunch of fun stuff during the,
Speaker 2: break BUT i have lots of chores and paperwork to
Speaker 2: catch up on for the next three, days so that's
Speaker 2: What i'll be. Doing hope you all have fun and
Speaker 2: we'll see you On. Thursday there we.
Speaker 1: Go, yeah hopefully not all of you are doing. CHORES
Speaker 1: i think that's pretty much what my next few days
Speaker 1: is going to look like as, well but hopefully some
Speaker 1: of you have some better plans than we. Do thank
Speaker 1: you again for being with us on this. Episode we
Speaker 1: really appreciate your, time and we'll be back once again
Speaker 1: On thursday with another edition Of Snake's. Territory