Speaker 1: NFL Game Debut is a production of the NFL in
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Speaker 1: NFL Game Debut. My name is Rachel Banta. That's Greg
Speaker 1: ros and Thal, Cynthia Frieland, Patrick Claibon. Guys, we record
Speaker 1: these shows on Friday. Okay, can I just say the
Speaker 1: air of like football magic right now? After that Thursday
Speaker 1: night football game, it has made me that much more
Speaker 1: excited about this weekend slate of games. So we're going
Speaker 1: to get to those in runal momentum. But first things first,
Speaker 1: I believe let me just look here new later alert
Speaker 1: who has climbed the charts here? Definitely not me. We're
Speaker 1: we have a new leader, a top the standings. Greggy
Speaker 1: out of nowhere snatches the crown from Cynthia and Patrick.
Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about this. Actually I
Speaker 1: do know a nut kid. Yeah, if you thought I
Speaker 1: was obnoxis before this, do not keep this crown on
Speaker 1: my head. Don't let it happen. Jets Bills. Bills are
Speaker 1: favored by ten this one. Can they keep it close?
Speaker 1: And we'll start with you, I mean closer. I have
Speaker 1: twenty seven to nineteen in this matchup. There's a number
Speaker 1: of question marks about who's playing necessarily in this one.
Speaker 1: Obviously no Von Miller is not. But one person who
Speaker 1: has really turned into a bona fide number one receiver
Speaker 1: is Garrett Wilson. Sebrety of him his just do here,
Speaker 1: especially if you look from the wide alignment. I mean
Speaker 1: one two of his one hundred and sixty two yards
Speaker 1: last week came from that alignment. Two touchdowns against the
Speaker 1: Bears wide alignment. He's really commanding defense is to give
Speaker 1: him the number one treatment, which makes everyone else is
Speaker 1: more open. Last game is Corey Davis. Maybe this time
Speaker 1: it's I don't know, Elijah Moore. Who knows, but it's
Speaker 1: going to be an interesting one. And this secondary has
Speaker 1: been targetable for the Bills. And plus again keep your
Speaker 1: eye on the injury report there as well. But I
Speaker 1: think to nighteen, yeah, it's crazy to think the Jets
Speaker 1: have matchup advantages on the outside on offense. I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I have the Bills winning, but I haven't even closer
Speaker 1: to three, and I feel strongly that the Jets are
Speaker 1: keeping this thing closer than ten. I feel strongly going
Speaker 1: over forty three and a half and I feel strongly
Speaker 1: that Mike White is not who we think he is.
Speaker 1: Everyone said, Oh, he's like this little safe point guard.
Speaker 1: You know. I'm like, who do we think he is?
Speaker 1: Love him here? Just like, let's take the chick quick
Speaker 1: check downs and let's not take any chances, and let's
Speaker 1: kind of be Andy Dalton out there. No Mike White
Speaker 1: six ft five, sneaky tall, Hall of Fame here. He's
Speaker 1: got a big arm. He takes chances. I actually think
Speaker 1: he'll give the Bills defense some chances to make turnovers
Speaker 1: like they did a year ago. But I think he'll
Speaker 1: make big places. He's not the safe quarterback we were told.
Speaker 1: He's a little more toolsy, he's a little more fun.
Speaker 1: Pack is a good thing. He brings it all to
Speaker 1: the table. I don't have a fun score it's but
Speaker 1: I agree with you guys. The Jets are able to
Speaker 1: keep this close. They've been asking the defense to do
Speaker 1: a lot all season, not asking them to do as
Speaker 1: much with the toolsy, fun quarterback and Mike White. But
Speaker 1: I want to look at the guy who's clearly he's
Speaker 1: not sneaky athletic. Everybody knows athletic. It's Josh Allen. He
Speaker 1: was fired Let's go back to this November six game
Speaker 1: where Josh Allen was taking all of these deep shots
Speaker 1: against the Jets and not really completing them. Eighteen of
Speaker 1: his thirty four passes were only his only completions. He
Speaker 1: had a quarterback rating of forty eight. I think Josh
Speaker 1: is just gonna take his medicine in this game. I
Speaker 1: know he likes to take risks, but against his defense,
Speaker 1: the easy completions and the Bills just grind out. Greg.
Speaker 1: I'm with you score wise and take wise. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about Mr Toolesy for a second. Okay, literally everybody in
Speaker 1: his life is probably telling him right now, don't think
Speaker 1: about the game from last year from where he played
Speaker 1: the Bills and you threw florid receptions and then you
Speaker 1: didn't play any more football after that for the rest
Speaker 1: of the season. Don't think about that. That's probably what
Speaker 1: everyone is saying me. Nay, think about it, think about
Speaker 1: it all day long, think about it. Okay, this is
Speaker 1: an amazing chip on the shoulder. Sin Be always talking
Speaker 1: about the revenge factor. How fun is this? He isn't
Speaker 1: a different place in his life. He didn't play any
Speaker 1: more fun ball after that game. That's gotta hurt. That's
Speaker 1: gotta sting. Somebody asked him this week, how about the
Speaker 1: game last year's and what game? No? No, no, you
Speaker 1: know what? You know what game? Mike White? Mr Toolzy,
Speaker 1: bring it on so win. I'm not crazy. Okay. Let's
Speaker 1: move on to another divisional game. Vikings Lions. They met
Speaker 1: back in week three. UM The Lions held a ten
Speaker 1: point lead going into the fourth quarter, but with forty
Speaker 1: seconds left, k J Osborne caught the go ahead touchdown
Speaker 1: to give Minnesota a twenty eight to twenty four victory. Cynthia,
Speaker 1: the ten and two Vikings are road underdogs. You're a
Speaker 1: Michigan girl. You locked the Lions last week, which is
Speaker 1: something I don't think I've ever seen you do on
Speaker 1: game day morning, but you did it. Are you doing
Speaker 1: it again? I'm so glad we're starting with me because
Speaker 1: I am picking the Vikings I've favored, So that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that they're going to win. I think that the
Speaker 1: Vikings win this one. It's not a convincing score to
Speaker 1: twenty seven in that first matchup. Justin Jeffrey Pson was
Speaker 1: shut down in this second matchup. Check the injury report.
Speaker 1: Guess who's on it? Good old jeff Acuda. He's the
Speaker 1: lions best corner. You know what happens when you're down
Speaker 1: defensive backs and you play Justin Jefferson. Lots of gritty,
Speaker 1: lots of gritty in the end zone. Maybe there's a
Speaker 1: euro thrown in with that gritty, or perhaps one of
Speaker 1: the many various sausages you can get it forward field,
Speaker 1: all of which are going to Justin Jefferson, who should
Speaker 1: have a huge game. I do think that this is
Speaker 1: a very high scoring game. I think both quarterbacks and
Speaker 1: number one receivers are good picks for fantasy. But I
Speaker 1: just think this is the Vikings. Unfortunately. I love the Lions.
Speaker 1: My dog is named after a Detroit sports legend. I
Speaker 1: clearly want the Lions to make but they're not going
Speaker 1: to see I feel like the Vikings stole the Lions
Speaker 1: mojo when they came from behind a couple weeks ago
Speaker 1: a week three at the beginning of this season, and
Speaker 1: this this week, the Lions steal it back to four.
Speaker 1: Let's go Lions. I leave in you because of your defense.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you look at all that numbers and the Lions
Speaker 1: defense has improved since the bye week. Depending on what
Speaker 1: metric you want to look at there, a little below average,
Speaker 1: they're a little above average. Cynthia's model doesn't have them
Speaker 1: that high. You know what, they're not dead last in
Speaker 1: the league, and that's what they were before. And sometimes
Speaker 1: you gotta trust the old eye test. They came out
Speaker 1: of that bye week like they had just gotten the
Speaker 1: best hard knocks speech from Dan Campbell you've ever heard,
Speaker 1: and they've been flying around the field. You don't see
Speaker 1: that out of the Vikings defense. The Lions defense has
Speaker 1: the better defense in this game. Put it in the
Speaker 1: rafters worst defense for the Lions. That stealing the Lions mod.
Speaker 1: It's a little too far because I'm thinking about on
Speaker 1: the road at Buffalo at home against the Jets. This
Speaker 1: Vikings team continues to deliver, and that's why I'm taking
Speaker 1: Kirk and the Vikings, who kind of sneakily carried me
Speaker 1: twenty nine on the picks this year. And the reason
Speaker 1: is Dalvin Cook looking at this Vikings run game and
Speaker 1: what they were able to do, he has something in
Speaker 1: common with Devin Singletary Tony Pollard. They averaged over five
Speaker 1: yards to carry against the Lions, and again, I know
Speaker 1: they've improved since then, but looking back at what he
Speaker 1: did in the first game. I can't a good conscious
Speaker 1: ignore that. The Vikings do it again and another fun game.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not saying the Lions are fun, but the
Speaker 1: Vikings eke one out yet again. The Lions are fun. However,
Speaker 1: you know, every week we send in our picks, and
Speaker 1: along with our picks, we ask like what we want
Speaker 1: to show tape wise, and all I requested this week
Speaker 1: was just sorry, Greg, show me bad Lions defense. I
Speaker 1: want to see it. I want to see them messing
Speaker 1: up and not good because let me tell you this, Greg,
Speaker 1: bad Lions defense. Bad defense? Is Kirk Cousins corrypt in that? Okay?
Speaker 1: He is, Oh, let's go in his career in games
Speaker 1: against the last ranked total defense. Why I don't know,
Speaker 1: Maybe like a challenge. I don't know what is going
Speaker 1: on here, but for some reason, Kirk Cousins oh and
Speaker 1: three against the last ranked total defense. Have a day
Speaker 1: Lions right now in the middle. Yeah, he hit it again, folks.
Speaker 1: An amazing comeback from Tom Brady on Monday night football
Speaker 1: out there looking like an old Baker Mayfield if I
Speaker 1: may He's going up against Brock Bartie, who was four
Speaker 1: months old when Brady got drafted in two thousand. Uh
Speaker 1: Sin one team as Tom Brady. The other has um
Speaker 1: not Tom Brady. Who are you going with? Well, I
Speaker 1: mean the other has a really good defense of everything else. Right,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of other things in addition to not
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. So actually have the forty one sixteen So
Speaker 1: forty Niners still take this one. Why because the forty
Speaker 1: Niners ability to earn yards after the catch is really
Speaker 1: really important. They also are really good at yards after
Speaker 1: contact and yards after contact after the catch, because it
Speaker 1: really all matters the way that they run this offense
Speaker 1: and how Kyle Shanahan architects the run to kind of
Speaker 1: predicate everything really creates the opportunities for shorter passes to
Speaker 1: turn into longer gains and that YAK will make a
Speaker 1: big difference. We've seen some interesting performances from the secondary
Speaker 1: for the Bucks, So I think that there are avoidable
Speaker 1: holes and I think pl Shanahan's got this one. I
Speaker 1: am with you on this one, Cynthia. It's not about
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. It's never been about the quarterbacks in San Francisco.
Speaker 1: It's about the defense. And Nick Bosa shout out to
Speaker 1: Nick Bosa, I mean, maybe the best pass rusher in
Speaker 1: the league right now, and also a viewer of game debut,
Speaker 1: I love just like seeing him get these early sacks
Speaker 1: and then him letting America know, yeah, just Greg, you know.
Speaker 1: It's like I'm with you, I got you, I see you.
Speaker 1: Nick Bosa, quick around the edge, quick in the mind too,
Speaker 1: and a good, good fan. So the defense shuts Tom
Speaker 1: Brady down here. I don't think Tom Brady is thanks
Speaker 1: for watching name. I love the idea that quarterbacks don't matter.
Speaker 1: I'm there. We should clip that. I think in this
Speaker 1: game though, that they actually do because we're kind of
Speaker 1: neglecting the Buccaneers defense a little bit when we talk
Speaker 1: about this defensive matchup and what Todd Bowles squad has
Speaker 1: been able to do a top ten d v O
Speaker 1: A defense on the season. And I know what they
Speaker 1: did on Monday night was against Andy Dalton and a
Speaker 1: Saints team. That's kind of maybe it's and people thought
Speaker 1: had checked out, But I still believe in Kyle Shanahan,
Speaker 1: the Debo and company. I think styles make fights, though,
Speaker 1: and I think this is a bad tough ask for
Speaker 1: brock Party, who's a great dude. He gotta do what
Speaker 1: you picking is he taking the books? What are you doing?
Speaker 1: Six confident? That's the same scores last night? Yeah, seven,
Speaker 1: make it a stray bond, Baby, I'm going for to seventeen. Um.
Speaker 1: I don't think that we should like in the Tom
Speaker 1: Brady come back to Baker Mayfield. Okay, what Baker did
Speaker 1: was amazing. What Tom did the the entire game was
Speaker 1: the offense did not look good and then he just
Speaker 1: was Tom Brady and made an incredible past the seal
Speaker 1: the deal at the end of the game. But whatever,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter because he got there on Tuesday. Patrick,
Speaker 1: he got there on Tuesday. Um. But no, I just
Speaker 1: feel like the scurety Niners team Brock party just has
Speaker 1: to show up looking at his offensive weapons. I liken
Speaker 1: it to us on this show. Okay, you think we
Speaker 1: look like this every single day. No, we got an
Speaker 1: entire team around us doing our hair. Greg's got a
Speaker 1: little lip gloss on. Okay, really, because we surround ourselves with,
Speaker 1: all we really do have is have to show up.
Speaker 1: And that's what Brock Purtty has to do with all
Speaker 1: those offensive weapons and the defense uh surrounding him. So
Speaker 1: I'm going seventeen. Okay, back into The Dolphins had a
Speaker 1: decision to make with the fifth overall pick. They chose
Speaker 1: to Uh. The Chargers wasted no time with the next pick,
Speaker 1: taking Justin Herbert. I think both teams are probably pretty
Speaker 1: happy with how things turned out. They're both doing pretty
Speaker 1: well as far as how they'll turn out on Sunday, Patrick,
Speaker 1: who do you like in this one? Oh? Well, here's
Speaker 1: the We've got good news for the Chargers run defense,
Speaker 1: because we talked bad about it a lot. They have
Speaker 1: their five hundred team when they've allowed a hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty five or more rushing our yards. The bad news
Speaker 1: is that applies to half of their games. And there
Speaker 1: comes a Dolphins team that doesn't really run the ball
Speaker 1: very well, but they can when they need to. I
Speaker 1: think the Dolphins Jeff Wilson Jr. Has been getting the
Speaker 1: most action and run game, so I'll spotlight him here.
Speaker 1: But he's yet to have a game in Miami like
Speaker 1: he did back in Week two with the Niners. But
Speaker 1: with the Chargers up, considering how teams have been able
Speaker 1: to stay on the ground, I think it's a good
Speaker 1: opportunity he does it right here on Sunday. I have
Speaker 1: a confession to make when you picked your last game.
Speaker 1: I'm color blind and I thought you picked the other team,
Speaker 1: and my color blindness is gonna be a problem on
Speaker 1: Sunday night. To this Dolphins Chargers matchup is a mess.
Speaker 1: All you gotta do is just focus on the end zone.
Speaker 1: There's lots of points. It's gonna be forty to thirty three.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty forty Burger for two a tongue of violo
Speaker 1: and Justin Herbert to get off. But here the defense
Speaker 1: just has to make a couple of plays, and I
Speaker 1: think the Miami defense is more likely to do. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying quarterbacks don't matter, but I am saying if
Speaker 1: you put Justin Herbert on the Dolphins, he'd be doing
Speaker 1: what two is doing. And more. Two is supported by
Speaker 1: a great supporting cast, a great coaching staff, and also
Speaker 1: a good looking front seven. They're getting after the quarterback.
Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips is playing really well, Melvin Ingram's playing well,
Speaker 1: Zack Seeler is playing well in the middle. And I
Speaker 1: know they give up a lot of points, but they
Speaker 1: all also create a lot of turnovers and create havoc.
Speaker 1: I think that's what they'll do at the end of
Speaker 1: this game. It'll be like a Arena League game. This
Speaker 1: like a Melvin Ingram revenge game. Maybe we're always looking
Speaker 1: for revenge around here always. I'm picking a two point win,
Speaker 1: just a two point win for the Miami Dolphins in
Speaker 1: this matchup. Why will you talk about that Chargers run defense?
Speaker 1: It's really very not good, great, not wonderful. What I'm
Speaker 1: looking to see the ability for them to stop and
Speaker 1: limit first downs. I don't even care about the actual
Speaker 1: number of yards, but stopping and limiting first downs. It
Speaker 1: is the worst that I've seen in any team in
Speaker 1: my model since the other Chargers, which another year. Charges
Speaker 1: is actually the second worst in eight years. Okay, that's it.
Speaker 1: That's really I have to say about that. Sad, so sad.
Speaker 1: You know, I was saying it's bad. That's the numbers.
Speaker 1: The numbers are. What the numbers are? They give up
Speaker 1: first downs? Yeah, are sad. I thought it's interesting I've
Speaker 1: picked the Chargers as my team this season by the
Speaker 1: way that went well. Charge was in primetime on Sunday
Speaker 1: Football specifically, I've kind of struggle. I thought that this
Speaker 1: was interesting. This is going to be their third sign
Speaker 1: Sunday Ight Football game since Week ten. That involved the Chargers.
Speaker 1: They lost in out San Francisco and week ten they
Speaker 1: lost versus Casey in Week eleven. Both games they were
Speaker 1: leading at halftime, but by six plus points and they
Speaker 1: were outscored and they lost both of those games. So primetime,
Speaker 1: no bueno. I am going Dolphins. What is my score
Speaker 1: over the Chargers? Okay, coming up after the break, we
Speaker 1: got Jalen Hurts taking on the Giants and you know what,
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, I love you. Get out of here. We
Speaker 1: want to see the real deal. Where's the hand time?
Speaker 1: Can we just have this every single week? Please? Joy
Speaker 1: beautiful Eagles Giants On Sunday, Philly is favored here by
Speaker 1: seven points. Grag team. You think the Giants can keep question? No,
Speaker 1: I don't even think. I think you know, you play
Speaker 1: all this rivalry stuff, It's not going to be close.
Speaker 1: The Eagles are so good their backups could beat the Giants,
Speaker 1: and I really think they're probably will be at the
Speaker 1: Giants because they play all their backups. They have a
Speaker 1: luxury their defense. Brandon Graham and the rest of them
Speaker 1: don't even play starters snapps. Brandon Graham, having a great year,
Speaker 1: played eighteen snaps last week. Josh Sweat on a fifteen
Speaker 1: million dollar contract, one of the best ed dressers, played
Speaker 1: twenty seven snaps last week. Fletcher Cox on a big contract,
Speaker 1: eighteen snaps last week. They rotate them in and out
Speaker 1: to keep them fresh, and you don't even need to
Speaker 1: be on the field their backups. And it's not just
Speaker 1: on the defensive line, it's on the offensive line, it's
Speaker 1: at the skill positions. Put Gardner Minshew out there. I
Speaker 1: think they could beat the personally, love to see that.
Speaker 1: Let's do that. That would be super fun. I only
Speaker 1: have a six point win, twenty six to twenty. I
Speaker 1: agree with you at the caliber of the team overall,
Speaker 1: but this rivalry is really interesting. And when I look
Speaker 1: to see what could happen, I think Miles Sanders will
Speaker 1: run the ball a lot. Why because, like you talked about,
Speaker 1: I think that the Eagles will get up to a
Speaker 1: nice lead. But then you know what happens when you
Speaker 1: run the ball a lot and the other team needs
Speaker 1: to run the ball a lot to you kind of
Speaker 1: slow down the possession so you don't get the opportunity
Speaker 1: to score. Like this wildly different number right, fourteen is
Speaker 1: a little bit too much for me. So just six
Speaker 1: in this matchup. But Miles Sanders deserves a lot of
Speaker 1: nice things to be said about him. Maybe we don't
Speaker 1: talk about him enough. All of his ability to run,
Speaker 1: especially inside the tackles is a really nice way, a
Speaker 1: nice area where he contributes. Yeah, Chotan mele Sanders because
Speaker 1: at the start of season and he's like, fantasy people
Speaker 1: don't draft me. They had a great year. So Miles
Speaker 1: Sanders great. Also great, the Philadelphia Eagles not great. Uh.
Speaker 1: The Giants offense, it seems like the Washington the Commanders
Speaker 1: kind of became the Giants. Everything we said about the
Speaker 1: Giants earlier in the season is what we're saying about
Speaker 1: the Commanders now. But this overtime loss from a week
Speaker 1: ago kind of highlights the inability of the Giants offense
Speaker 1: to really do anything, especially make explosive plays in the
Speaker 1: passing game. I think this is the Eagles kind of
Speaker 1: getting out in front and Greg, like you mentioned, maybe
Speaker 1: checking it down and that's the only reason it's not
Speaker 1: a blowout from Yeah, Patrick and I picking against the
Speaker 1: Giants each and every week is finally single week I
Speaker 1: have a closer game too. I just have a seven
Speaker 1: point win. Uh, So we're breaking even here. I feel
Speaker 1: like in these kinds of games, it's hard to say
Speaker 1: that there's going to be a blowout because people always
Speaker 1: step up for these games when you got that much history.
Speaker 1: Kind of it's one of those games that you circle
Speaker 1: on the calendar every single year and you never really
Speaker 1: know what is going to happen. Also, the Eagles were
Speaker 1: winning the entire season. They then they dropped one, and
Speaker 1: I feel like things were a little bit shaky here
Speaker 1: and there. But I feel like they've gotten back on
Speaker 1: tractive and putting up some big scores against the last
Speaker 1: few teams. So I'm going Eagle over the Giants. Time
Speaker 1: for a quick picks, Patrick, you have picked the Ravens
Speaker 1: every single It'll be Tyler Only show on Sunday. Are
Speaker 1: you did this graphic get here confident? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's like you hacked to the show. Are you so
Speaker 1: confident in Baltimore to get it done? Based on seeing
Speaker 1: the rainmaker appear, I'm breaking the street. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to pick the Baltimore Ravens because I don't think number
Speaker 1: eight is playing. The Number eight is the reason I
Speaker 1: have such an affinity for the Baltimore Ravens. And he's
Speaker 1: the reason that I've picked them every single game this season.
Speaker 1: And now I'm looking on the other side of a
Speaker 1: defense that is playing Marlon Humphrey in the slot and
Speaker 1: they've had real trouble with outside receiver. So let's talk
Speaker 1: about George Pickens. The Steelers could have been getting him
Speaker 1: the ball a little bit more. We saw Za Jones
Speaker 1: absolutely go off. We saw Chris Olave have those seven
Speaker 1: catches in New Orleans on the Monday night game. I
Speaker 1: just think it's a big game for George Pickens and
Speaker 1: the Steelers when at seventeen fifteen. This is one of
Speaker 1: those me milerts. Though, don't you are you worried now
Speaker 1: that we're all on the Steelers. Yes, I just picked
Speaker 1: the Steelers because I wanted to hear that those beautiful voices.
Speaker 1: Cynthia and I have a nice little warm up that
Speaker 1: we like to do before shows. Would you like to
Speaker 1: demons right, pick it to Pickens, pick gets Pickens, pick
Speaker 1: it to Pickens, Pick it to Pickens's like picking Pickens. Okay,
Speaker 1: about the Texans and Cowboys, all they have in common
Speaker 1: is they both play in Texas. Spread at seventeen and
Speaker 1: app on Sunday which feels disrespectful in the NFL, but
Speaker 1: it is the Texans, and I'm just going to pile
Speaker 1: right on top of that because I have eighteen points.
Speaker 1: This is a nice, big win for the Cowboys for
Speaker 1: me because of their defense when I look to see
Speaker 1: what's going on with this offense. Yeah, look, David Pearce
Speaker 1: is a nice story and all, but like outside of that,
Speaker 1: it seems like I don't know, a lot of confusion,
Speaker 1: a lot of question marks. Kyle Allen, They're just it
Speaker 1: just got Davis Mills back. Come on, I was about
Speaker 1: to say I didn't work out. Are you sad? I
Speaker 1: mean you wanted more? No, I think Davis was should
Speaker 1: send like a handwritten like beautiful Christmas presents of Kyle Allen.
Speaker 1: It made who made Davis Mills look better than Kyle Allen? Well,
Speaker 1: you know who's gonna make a often look bad. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys defense a nice eight team point win. I love them.
Speaker 1: Like McCarthy was like, don't take the cheese. What did
Speaker 1: you call this like a cheese game? That sounds cross
Speaker 1: but because this bread is so big, he was like, no,
Speaker 1: don't fall for it. This is cheese game. That's definitely
Speaker 1: not what he called it. I'm gonna look it up
Speaker 1: on commercial and I will clarify on the other side.
Speaker 1: It's a perfect obviously loves cheese. Okay, the time for
Speaker 1: the Drive to Excellence presented by Mercedes Benz. The Bengals
Speaker 1: have looked like the team we expected them to be
Speaker 1: entering the season. Since losing in the Browns back in
Speaker 1: Week eight, they have won four in a row. Greg,
Speaker 1: can they keep it rolling this week? I believe they
Speaker 1: can and I don't think it's going to be close.
Speaker 1: I have the Browns twenty seven to four. Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: the Bengals of know what, I don't know. If something
Speaker 1: happens when the when the Bengals all the Browns play
Speaker 1: like weird things happened. The Bengals suddenly turned into a
Speaker 1: bad team. They've lost five street. But Joe Burrow told
Speaker 1: me that Bengals were a great team two weeks ago
Speaker 1: when they beat the Titans. He said, that's the type
Speaker 1: of game that great teams win, and that spoke to me.
Speaker 1: I I kind of agreed with him. It was a
Speaker 1: playoff atmosphere is physical. The next week they beat the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Only a great team can beat the Chiefs. Three straight times.
Speaker 1: You know what great teams don't do is lose to
Speaker 1: the Browns six straight times. And you might think like, oh,
Speaker 1: there's different players. No, they beat them last year with
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield forty one to sixteen. They beat them earlier.
Speaker 1: This year the Browns did thirty three to fourteen. But
Speaker 1: there's been a downgrade at quarterback in Cleveland and that's
Speaker 1: going to help. I have the Bengals winning this one too.
Speaker 1: I have twenty one, the maybe the most normal football
Speaker 1: score I've ever pretty normal. No one can say anything
Speaker 1: to me about this. I want to talk about lu
Speaker 1: on a Rumo and this Bengals defense in Week thirteen.
Speaker 1: You know what we saw pressure? You know what we else?
Speaker 1: We saw defensive backs getting back and coverage. You know
Speaker 1: what else we saw turnovers. These are really good things
Speaker 1: for defenses, and these are things that are susceptible areas
Speaker 1: for that Brown's offense. We saw the Brown's offense have
Speaker 1: an interesting outing last time. This defense is going to
Speaker 1: be able to capitalize that on that and make sure
Speaker 1: that they stay nice and pole position here. Even if
Speaker 1: a few people are missing on their offense. I still
Speaker 1: think big Jamar Chase Day, big te higginsteon big running
Speaker 1: back day. It's gonna it's great. Interesting is a nice
Speaker 1: way to describe the Browns offense last week, Like stank
Speaker 1: could be another way nasty, and it was. It was
Speaker 1: a regret for me because I picked the Chiefs last week,
Speaker 1: and like, like you said, Joe Burrow just came to
Speaker 1: me in a vision and he was like, just like that,
Speaker 1: so good. We will dominate you. We are world destroyers,
Speaker 1: and your distinctiveness will be added to that of our own.
Speaker 1: Resistance is futal. It's all Bengals. I'm not picking the Bengals,
Speaker 1: picking against the Bengals. I'll add one point to Cynthia's
Speaker 1: score for the Browns. But I would also like to
Speaker 1: talk about this defense, Cynthia, specifically Trey Hendrickson. You saw
Speaker 1: at the end of that Chief's clip him chasing around
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes where he does that weird dad run thing
Speaker 1: that nobody can seem to stop. Trey Hendricksson did that,
Speaker 1: and he's got nine quarterback pressures and his last three
Speaker 1: games just a big part of this Bengals defense and
Speaker 1: a big part of the reason they maybe the best
Speaker 1: team in the NFL right now. Rachel that's that's a
Speaker 1: big statement. I love that I actually picked the Bengals
Speaker 1: last week. Thank you doing it again, okay, and I
Speaker 1: got a huge win. Thirty one is seventeen. Like we said,
Speaker 1: like Greg said, they haven't been the Browns, but this
Speaker 1: has got to be one of the more confident times
Speaker 1: that they have walked into this game and said, you
Speaker 1: know what, we can do this off of the heels
Speaker 1: of a win against the Chiefs again and you're facing
Speaker 1: the offense that is rusty at best. They still have
Speaker 1: not clicked in, And I don't know if it's happening
Speaker 1: this weekend seventeen for the Bengals over the Browns. Okay,
Speaker 1: two playoff teams from a year ago meeting in the
Speaker 1: desert this week this year. You probably not so much.
Speaker 1: The Cardinals have had a week off to think about
Speaker 1: the way their game ended against the Chargers. Probably still
Speaker 1: doesn't feel good. Time doesn't heal all. The Patriots are
Speaker 1: slight favorites in this one. Patrick, do you agree should
Speaker 1: they be the favorite? I do not agree. I've got
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals winning this one to twenty two, because
Speaker 1: you know, the Cardinals are a consistent team. The offensive spotty,
Speaker 1: but that also describes the New England Patriots. And the
Speaker 1: thing about the Cardinals is they've got everybody playing now
Speaker 1: for the first time this season. You've got Hollywood Brown,
Speaker 1: You've got Kyler Murray, James Conner, and New Hopkins all
Speaker 1: on the field. I think there's too much talent for
Speaker 1: them to be underachievers. Vance Joseph was saying that the
Speaker 1: Patriots called plays like a defensive coach was calling the plays,
Speaker 1: which is true, and it wasn't like a snide remark.
Speaker 1: If people wasn't saying that derisively. It's just the state
Speaker 1: of the Patriots offense. And I agree it's it's not fun.
Speaker 1: I've got the Cardinals winning man, it's rough out here
Speaker 1: for the Matt Patricia Patriots advanced Joseph's taken shots. I'm
Speaker 1: still taking the Patriots. I don't feel good about either
Speaker 1: of these teams. How could you? But I do feel
Speaker 1: good about Bill Belichick's ability to scramble bad offensive lines.
Speaker 1: And that's one thing hasn't been talked about in Arizona
Speaker 1: this year. Josh uch A and Matthew Judean will pick
Speaker 1: on this offensive line. They have been missing three to
Speaker 1: four starters upfront all year, and Kyler Murray really struggles
Speaker 1: against pressure. How about bet in the edge, They're making
Speaker 1: a big play against Josh Allen. He's finally stepping up
Speaker 1: in his third year. Judan has been fantastic, and they
Speaker 1: really pick on mismatches on their defensive line, and they
Speaker 1: get Jude on in spots where he can make sacks.
Speaker 1: And I just think this offensive life for Arizona is
Speaker 1: their kryptonite, and the Patriots are really good at beating
Speaker 1: flawed offensive Let's get it done. I'm with you on
Speaker 1: the fact that their offensive line is their kryptonite. But
Speaker 1: I definitely think the run game is specifically the joint
Speaker 1: effort of Kyler Murray. Oh Mac Jones can do whatever
Speaker 1: to say whatever he wants. I have the Cardinals winning
Speaker 1: in this match one. In this matchup, Kyler Murray and
Speaker 1: James Connor together both have the ability to get the
Speaker 1: heck away from Matt Judean and from Josh Uch. I
Speaker 1: don't think that they're fun to play against. I don't
Speaker 1: want to try to have to have them sack anyone,
Speaker 1: but I think they're outside rushes and the ability to
Speaker 1: scramble and get away from that little book leg that
Speaker 1: he's like Kylin Murray does and then he like somehow
Speaker 1: gets it to James Conner. Anyways, people don't talk enough
Speaker 1: about James Conner and his ability to shape and change
Speaker 1: this game to impact the outcome. James Conner and he's,
Speaker 1: like Loki, one of my better players, maybe top ten
Speaker 1: running back for the rest of the season. So this
Speaker 1: is a it's a big gif it to me. The
Speaker 1: model always loves the Cardinals, the model of Cardinals to
Speaker 1: Cardinals coming off. But I know, I didn't know that
Speaker 1: Van's Joseph had said anything. I didn't know about that
Speaker 1: talking trash bit, but I don't like that of the
Speaker 1: Patriots best offensive player, they're speaking of trashock. As soon
Speaker 1: as you said run game. It just made me flashback
Speaker 1: to Mac Jones freak young out on the sideline, and
Speaker 1: maybe there's some expletives there, but I'm with Gregg. Maybe
Speaker 1: he's a little bit fired up. The Cardinals have been
Speaker 1: letting people put up some points here, folks, and since
Speaker 1: it's the Patriots and it is Mac Jones, I still
Speaker 1: have what we got here. Fourteen to ten, not a lot,
Speaker 1: not a lot, but so I trust we talked about,
Speaker 1: you know, trusting the Cardinals. I trust Bill Belichick's I
Speaker 1: trust you, Rachel. I think we're aligned on everything. I think,
Speaker 1: so I think interesting. There you go, there you have it. Okay,
Speaker 1: coming up next? We were talking, uh Patrick Momes taken
Speaker 1: on let's rad Broncos. Oh boy, here it comes anyway.
Speaker 1: I don't know she could save the Brons and a
Speaker 1: Sunday football. Oh yeah, we'll see, right and early, only
Speaker 1: a couple of games left to talk about. Week fourteen,
Speaker 1: Seahawks are three and a half point favorites at home
Speaker 1: against the Panthers. Greig, who I like the Seahawks. I'm
Speaker 1: not that confident because of other aspects of the team
Speaker 1: that are not Gino Smith. But Gino Smith is still there.
Speaker 1: It's twenty so we're threatened the needle here. And I
Speaker 1: want to give Ben McAdoo a shout out. Ben McAdoo
Speaker 1: and I have a lot in common. We've always believed
Speaker 1: in Gino Smith. We've both put our careers on the
Speaker 1: line with our belief in Gino Smith. Ben mcado actually
Speaker 1: lost his job, so I guess more at stake for him.
Speaker 1: Remember when he played Gino Smith back in two thousand
Speaker 1: and whatever it was was seventeen, Gino Smith goes in
Speaker 1: starts a game against the Radar. The next week they
Speaker 1: fired Ben McAdoo. They apologize to Eli Manning so much
Speaker 1: that they waste another year and a half starting him.
Speaker 1: And here's Ben McAdoo and his career has changed, and
Speaker 1: now he's in Carolina talking up how he knew Gino
Speaker 1: Smith was great all along. He paid the ultimate price,
Speaker 1: but he was right. And it does feel good to
Speaker 1: be right, Ben McAdoo. But it's not going to feel
Speaker 1: good on Sunday because he's gonna beat the Panthers. Yes,
Speaker 1: I love that. I love that. Sound might okay, we'll
Speaker 1: have the Seahawks a little bigger. I have eighteen over
Speaker 1: the Panthers because of both DK mecalf and Tyler Lockett.
Speaker 1: And I look at this secondary for Carolina. They have
Speaker 1: some good pieces and their safeties are good, but I've
Speaker 1: also seen some weird things in coverage. And when you
Speaker 1: give these guys space, that is not a really good
Speaker 1: thing to do, because Gino will find them, and especially
Speaker 1: if there's space, Gina, we'll find them and then they'll
Speaker 1: end up in the end zone. Like good luck stopping them.
Speaker 1: Once those freight trains start running, especially with how big
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf is. So I'm watching to see if these
Speaker 1: corners can do anything that I think is going to
Speaker 1: be even a little bit scary to me. It's like,
Speaker 1: which one are you going to pick? Maybe a slighter
Speaker 1: better chance for Tyler Lockett to score touchdown, but I
Speaker 1: mean six of one half margin from you, Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a it's a pretty margin. I have the Seahawks covering
Speaker 1: as well twenty three to nineteen. And I also I'm
Speaker 1: looking at this Panthers secondary because the defense has played
Speaker 1: pretty well in the past few weeks, but look at
Speaker 1: who they played. They played the Broncos, uh, the struggling
Speaker 1: offense of the Ravens as well as the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 1: I think the Seahawks cover here mainly because, like Cynthia said,
Speaker 1: the the issues in that secondary dealing with K as
Speaker 1: well as Tyler Lockett, but mainly DK Metcalf because as
Speaker 1: good as J. C. Horne has been in coverage this season,
Speaker 1: coming up and making tackles has been a problem. And
Speaker 1: Gina is absolutely willing to feed the ball to DK
Speaker 1: and have him try to push people over. It's very consistent.
Speaker 1: It's why he leads the team and catches as well.
Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett fills them in yards. But Gina is gonna
Speaker 1: feed DK Seahawks cover and went in home. I got
Speaker 1: another huge way. This point might be one of my
Speaker 1: bigger wins of the week. I've got the Seahawks thirty
Speaker 1: to fourteen. It's supposed to be thirty to fourteen. Uh
Speaker 1: you know, I paid really close attention to that Seahawks
Speaker 1: Rams game. What was that last weekend? The Rams put
Speaker 1: up a fight against the Seahawks, specifically Bobby Wagon. That
Speaker 1: was a Super Bowl game right there, and the offense
Speaker 1: kept going. They grinded it out and they got that win,
Speaker 1: that hard fought win. Okay, that's time for quick picks.
Speaker 1: Enough of this, enough of these Shenanigans. Jackson Titans, both
Speaker 1: teams coming off embarrassing losses. Greg who gets back on track?
Speaker 1: I think it's the Titans because the Jaguars defense is
Speaker 1: second most expensive defense in the league, is quietly one
Speaker 1: of the worst defenses in the league. So I think
Speaker 1: the Titans get a lot of points. Seven seventeen. So
Speaker 1: much money spent, so much wasted money spent in Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: It's almost like they have a GM in Trent Valkey
Speaker 1: that shouldn't have kept his job the same. I think, Wow,
Speaker 1: he's got almost as many a's in his name as
Speaker 1: you have. Maybe and he says waste in this nice
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence season. Hopefully Trevor Lawrence plays in this game.
Speaker 1: He's questionable, but I think he'll play. But either way,
Speaker 1: t A win. Okay, San The Broncos are so bad.
Speaker 1: The NFL flex Patrick Mahomes out of prime time. That's
Speaker 1: so bad. It's gotten Chiefs win. But by how much? Well,
Speaker 1: right now, I have to twelve. Twelve is an awfully
Speaker 1: low score. That's not a good score. It rarely happens
Speaker 1: to be that low because you know, you aggregate lots
Speaker 1: and lots of outcomes. Twelve is a very rare score
Speaker 1: for me to have. So when I'm looking at this,
Speaker 1: I think that means good things for the run game,
Speaker 1: specifically Isaiah Pachecko. When I look to see how these
Speaker 1: Kansas City running backs have evolved. In Pacheco's evolution in
Speaker 1: this rookie season, it's really important that they keep him
Speaker 1: kind of learning how to look at different things in
Speaker 1: navigating different situations. You can also run against this Broncos defense.
Speaker 1: So for me, it doesn't get any higher, any more
Speaker 1: lopsided than that, because I think that this is going
Speaker 1: to be a ground and pound. A lot of run
Speaker 1: game situation for the Chiefs are real good. Outing for
Speaker 1: Isaiah Pacheckoday's giving. I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's all points from the Broncos that improved. That's average
Speaker 1: score for it would take it down just a bit,
Speaker 1: it would almost be close to average. That's why I
Speaker 1: put fift. Like how many how many points do we
Speaker 1: give the Broncos? Like, right, you give him seven? You
Speaker 1: know what, the Chiefs defense isn't very good this year.
Speaker 1: I am a little confend about the Chief's defense. And
Speaker 1: if you watched, you squinted real close, you actually saw
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson played like a little better last week. I
Speaker 1: know you only scored n I know that Courtland Sutton
Speaker 1: is not playing. I know that just Ut can be
Speaker 1: a little upset this week. You know, I have a podcast.
Speaker 1: It's called Bench with Banetta. You should listen sometime. We
Speaker 1: record on Thursday afternoons. Okay, so we can't ever time.
Speaker 1: We're always like wow, that game, sure it was crazy,
Speaker 1: but not this week. I said, we record on Thursday.
Speaker 1: After days, let's make some bold predictions, and we predicted this.
Speaker 1: We said, Hollywood Baker, welcome to Los Angeles. Uh. In
Speaker 1: the entire game, we were sweating it out because we're wrong,
Speaker 1: and it's time to write this down in week fourteen.
Speaker 1: This is another thing that I am predicting. Rock Party
Speaker 1: does a great job. He goes over a hundred ninety
Speaker 1: seven and a half passing yards. I believe he had
Speaker 1: over two hundred last week against the Dolphins. So that's
Speaker 1: what I like. I love it. Oh, well, I'm next,
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at Travis Kelsey because every time Andy
Speaker 1: Reid's players have something weird happened, he gets them back
Speaker 1: on track. So seven receptions check it off, seventy one
Speaker 1: and a half yards more than that. Both of those
Speaker 1: things are going to happen because last game did not
Speaker 1: end the way that you usually see Travis Kelsey and
Speaker 1: games with Patrick Mahomes. So let's get the rust stuff.
Speaker 1: Figure it out early in the Isaia Pachecker runs the
Speaker 1: ball for the rest of the game. Yes, my write
Speaker 1: this down is that there will be assinine conversations about
Speaker 1: two of versus Herbert no matter who wins. Kidding umte
Speaker 1: down Murray. That's going on right now. Latavius Murray goes
Speaker 1: over fifty rushing yards against Kansas City when he gets
Speaker 1: the ball. Generally, when he's gotten the ball seventeen two
Speaker 1: more times he's hit that number. So I think he
Speaker 1: hits that number for the people this week, Like, Wow,
Speaker 1: what a NATS pick? My I write this down is
Speaker 1: about our friend Rachel over here. Actually, and we've been
Speaker 1: on the same page in terms of our picks this week.
Speaker 1: But not all your takes are good. You've been in
Speaker 1: the take industry too long, and no you didn't end.
Speaker 1: Here's here's the problem. You're turning into skip bayliss here
Speaker 1: with your take. And this is your Lebron James came
Speaker 1: down from Canada one way and yourself and James. But
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like this takes James. He's saying is Lebron,
Speaker 1: which Lebron should have a feeling about. I mean he
Speaker 1: should feel great because soup is are single cuisine or
Speaker 1: do I gotta walk it back? I will be on it.
Speaker 1: I gotta come clean about something. After I tweeted this out,
Speaker 1: got a little sick. The next day. I learned some
Speaker 1: months ball soup. Oh did you like it? It was good?
Speaker 1: That makes you feel better. Okay, it was fine, but
Speaker 1: I still don't think you should beating soup in the summer.
Speaker 1: It's not every cuisine everything. It's got any things to
Speaker 1: dip in it. I had a piece of bread. It
Speaker 1: was fine. It was fine. I take it back, it
Speaker 1: wasn't good. It was fine. I feel better getting that
Speaker 1: off my We'll see you guys next week. You can
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