1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: This is Draft season, John Shmelk and Tony Pauline from 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: the second floor of the official team hotel at the 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: East West Shrine Bowl in Frisco, Texas. Of course, at 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Draft season is presented by Moody's, a proud sponsored to 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: the New York Football Giants. Tony, we've had three days. 6 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: If I turned the camera around where there's a window 7 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: behind us, you would see about an inch of ice 8 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: and snow on the ground. So the roads have been 9 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: treacherous right now. Both of us still have flights that 10 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: are ready to. 11 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: Go on Monday to get to Mobile. We're knocking on wood. 12 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: To see if that works out. But it's been a 13 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: fun three days here. 14 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 2: You know, it's like nuclear winter here in Dallas. It's unbelievable. 15 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 2: Everything is shut down. You know, we're from New York, 16 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: so we're used to it snowing heavy in New York. 17 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: As we tape this, but you know, I'm sure their 18 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: grocery stores are still open, and you know, things will 19 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: get back to normal in New York twenty four hours later. 20 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: This is like the only good thing is that people 21 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: stay off the road and the roads really aren't that bad. 22 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: But as I said to John, I think their snow 23 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: removal plan is wait till spring, because none of these 24 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 2: none of these roads have been plowed. In fact, the hotel, 25 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: the Omni Hotel and next to the Ford Center they 26 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 2: did a better job plowing their front valet section. Then 27 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 2: I haven't seen a single plowed road, you know, since 28 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 2: the ice started forming Friday. 29 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: My hope is that the all the plows of it 30 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: on the highways, so when I try to drive to 31 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: the airport on Monday morning, and you will try to 32 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: drive to the airport on Monday morning, that the highways 33 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: are okay. But I'm not feeling overly confident about that. 34 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: Apparently since the last ice storm, they did not have 35 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: it in the city budget to binding plows or any salt. 36 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 2: And it's ice cold, it is freezing. It is like 37 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: eighteen degrees. I was out the past two mornings running 38 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: and it's maniac It's below zero out there. So yeah, 39 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 2: it's not only just the snow, but it is frigid, 40 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: which means you canna take a well to melt. 41 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: So today, what we're gonna do, We're gonna go through 42 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: the East West Rosters. Guys who have stood out to 43 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: us that we've liked that. We've enjoyed watching, and then 44 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna do a little preview of the Senior Bowl 45 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: and mobile. But what we'll do, you know, a little 46 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: bit more review than preview, but is we want to 47 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: go back. Drew Fabionic from the Senior Bowl joined us 48 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: about a month and a half ago. You guys can 49 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: go back and look at that. We kind of go 50 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: through the roster a little bit. We have some more additions. 51 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: Some of those editions might not actually be participating. We'll 52 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: have to wait and see. We'll talk about that, but 53 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna start first with what we've seen here at 54 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: East West Shrine and Tony Giant fans not super concerned 55 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: with quarterbacks. 56 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: But I know a lot of. 57 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: People in the draft community are not the best group 58 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: of quarterbacks this week. But what was who was some 59 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: of the guys that did jump out? Gay? 60 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 2: You never do? I mean the Shrine Bowls not a 61 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: quarterback game. I think, as we were talking today, I 62 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: think the last time I saw really good quarterbacks at 63 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: the Shrine Bowl that'd be fifteen years ago. Jimmy Garoppolo, 64 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: however long he was, and he really improved. But I mean, 65 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 2: you're looking at basically day three guys who could be 66 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 2: number three, number two quarterbacks. Two guys really impressed me 67 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 2: and both very athletic fireball throwers. Mark Ronikowski of Iowa 68 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 2: by way of San Diego State. He made a lot 69 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 2: of nice passes yesterday. He's six y three and change 70 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty five pounds. He's athletic. He was 71 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:07,119 Speaker 2: a good passer at San die South Dakota State. Last 72 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: year at Iowa, he was probably a better runner than 73 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: he was passer. He showed a lot of skill throwing 74 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: the ball, especially yesterday. Today was Jadlyn Jaylen Daniels of Kansas. 75 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 2: I mean, you saw why Jalen Daniels is such a 76 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: frustrating guy to scout, because today his passes were on 77 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 2: the money. He was just ripping defenses apart, getting the 78 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: ball through the tight spots. Incredibly accurate, very emotional, a 79 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: vocal leader. But then he's just crazy wild. So it's 80 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: a matter of being able to harness all that. If 81 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: you can get him to consistently throw the ball accurately, 82 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: you'll have something there and club the cure as well. 83 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: He might be the highest drafted quarterback and we'll see 84 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: if he plays in the game too, coming up next week. 85 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: But don't they guy to keep an eye on as 86 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: we move forward here? 87 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean she was honest. He doesn't show great 88 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: arm strength, but he was out there and competing, which 89 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: good for him, especially after the disappointing season. 90 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: He had yep, absolutely a right, let'sjump to the running 91 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: back position here, Tony and a couple of guys I 92 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: want to bring up and then you can kind of 93 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: come out all of them. I enjoyed watching Eli Hyden 94 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: right from Navy, kind of a third down back slash 95 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: slot receiver. No one could cover him. I had a 96 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: chance to talk to him. You guys can go find 97 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: that on the Giants Subtle podcast feed. Go check that 98 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: interview out. But you know, he kind of talked about 99 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: how some teams see him as a third down back, 100 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: some teams see him as a slot receiver, and he's 101 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: just trying to tell teams that, look, I can do 102 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: everything that. I can play specials, I did kick return, 103 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: I can cover, I can do all that. 104 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 2: Who is the kid from Navy about I want to 105 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: say eight years ago, seven years ago, had no shot. 106 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: He was their quarterback and he was at the combine 107 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: with the name. I was a returner, and ironically the 108 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: same guy that represented him represents Heindrich. But I agree 109 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: with you, Yeah, he's not the biggest guy in the world, 110 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 2: but you know, he proved here to be as lethal 111 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: a pass catcher as he was at Navy, and the 112 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: tape at Navy's really good, no question about it. 113 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: The other running back from that group that I want 114 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: to talk about a little bit is Robert Henry at 115 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: a University of Texas San Antonio. I thought, as a 116 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: pure runner, he probably looked like the best player here 117 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: in terms of finding holes and having burst. The problem 118 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: is that he weighed in at just five nine, one 119 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:15,559 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety seven pounds. 120 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 2: Right, he plays like a big power back. He's a 121 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: good interior runner that's not really going to hold up 122 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 2: at the next level. So and I don't know that 123 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,679 Speaker 2: he has a speed or agility to be a perimeter 124 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:29,799 Speaker 2: ball carrier. So the style screams, you know, between the tackles, 125 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: but the size says, you better be able to create 126 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: and make defenders miss or you're going to take a pounding. 127 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: And then the other player he only participated in like 128 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: the first half of the first practice, and he kind 129 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: of caught a pass, came down in his tailbow and 130 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: it was banged up. Did not participate in practice the 131 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: next two days. And that's demon Clayborne out of Wake Forest. 132 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: And look, we didn't see a ton of him this week, 133 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: but he might be the highest running back draft out 134 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: of the group just because. 135 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 2: Of his speed. You know, It's funny because we were 136 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 2: talking about before about the first player drafted from the 137 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: Shrine ball and I didn't even think about Clayborne. He 138 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 2: could be the first player drafting because I think he's 139 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 2: going to be a late two pick if you watch him. 140 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 2: He's an explosive ball carrier. He's an aggressive ball carrier 141 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: who you mentioned, you know, hurting himself when he caught 142 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 2: the pass, can catch the ball out of the backfield. 143 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: Two running backs that I really like. CJ. Donaldson from 144 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: Ohio State by way of West Virginia caught the ball well, 145 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: showed some creativity on the inside. He's more of an 146 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 2: interior pounder. He's the hammer in short yard and goald 147 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 2: wine situations. But he showed some versatility to his game. 148 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: And Dean Connors of Houston by way of Rights. I mean, 149 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 2: he was much quicker than I thought he would be. 150 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 2: He showed much more elusiveness, creativity, and that's what you 151 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 2: want from these games. You want players to show up 152 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 2: and give more, basically exceed expectations, and I think that's 153 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: what Connors did absolutely. 154 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: I thought he did a good job catching the football too, 155 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: and some of those receiving girls on with the let's 156 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: come to the wide receiver position. Tony Skyler Bell A 157 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: lot of people like him at a Yukon five to eleven 158 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: what eighty seven practice on the first day. We did 159 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: not see him after that. From what you saw from 160 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: the first day of which I. 161 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: Think it was solid, I mean it was I mean, listen, 162 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: Skylar Bell, as I had reported, he turned down a 163 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: Senior Bowl invitation to come here because his quarterback Joe Fangdano, 164 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: I know mispronounced that from Yukon was here. So you 165 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: know that's what was one of the reasons why he 166 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,559 Speaker 2: came here. He is a terrific pass catcher. The question 167 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: with Bell is how big did you say? It was 168 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty six pounds. How fast is he? 169 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: You know, he doesn't look like he's going to be 170 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 2: much faster than four or five, five or four or 171 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 2: five guy, So there's only gonna be certain schemes that 172 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,239 Speaker 2: he can play in no question about. All right, let's jump. 173 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,239 Speaker 1: I'll put these two guys in the height, weight, speed 174 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: category wide receivers. Malie Benson had a sense rather Jeff 175 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: Caldwell out of Cincinnati six' four three quarters two hundred 176 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: eight pounds didn't do a ton productivity, wise but in 177 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: the one on, ONES i think a lot of it 178 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: has to do with with the quarterback. Play, obviously you 179 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: know he's, big he just runs past. 180 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: People you can see the. 181 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: Speed he's going to be a guy that somebody's gonna 182 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: target as a very talented developmental white receiver. 183 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 2: Was not graded before the season by, scouts but caught 184 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: fire and had a good year Where brent sowersby the 185 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: quarterback from who was? It cincinnati and he's now with 186 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: where's HE'S? TCU i Believe Texas Tech Texas tech, right 187 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 2: and he's a you, know he's a good athlete that's 188 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 2: got to develop into a receiver As i'm sure the 189 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: next guy you're going to speak, About, yeah next, Way i'm. 190 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: Curious we'll go on the same. Way J Michael sturt of. It, 191 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: okay so we have to talk about the kid From 192 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: kansas six two and a half two hundred and nine, 193 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: pounds again big and showed speed to get over the. 194 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: Top he was a good. Receiver, first he started his 195 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: career AT, ucla transferred To, florida and he's been a 196 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 2: relatively productive receiver in a lot of bad offenses or 197 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 2: offenses that had some questionable. Quarterbacks, SO i, mean he's 198 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 2: a solid. Guy could he slide into the very late 199 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: late rounds? Potentially all? Right and then who did you 200 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: want to highlight, There? Tony you GUYS i thought did 201 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 2: really well the BOTH lsu receiver Hre Xavian thomas And Chris. 202 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 2: Hilton Hinton hilton did very. WELL i, Mean hilton's a 203 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 2: track guy who had minimal, production triple jumper AT, lsu 204 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 2: also a, sprinter combined FOR i think nineteen receptions the 205 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 2: past two. Years but you, saw especially On, sunday he 206 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 2: quickly releases off the line of scrimmage and defensive packs 207 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: quarterbacks are constantly running after, him chasing him down the, 208 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 2: field and he catches the. Ball, well he's just got 209 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 2: to do that in game, time not just in one 210 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: on one. DRILLS i thought That xavier And, thomas his, 211 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 2: teammate slightly, bigger not as, fast but a more complete. 212 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 2: RECEIVER i thought he caught the ball exceptionally. Well AND 213 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 2: i Think Caden wetchin From. Iowa we watched, him we enjoyed, 214 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 2: him really earned his chops At iowa as a return, 215 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 2: specialist really wasn't a big part of the passing. OFFENSE 216 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 2: i think he's had twenty three combined receptions the past two. 217 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 2: Seasons he showed himself to be a good. 218 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: Receiver he might have had twenty three receptions during practice 219 00:09:58,160 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: over the. 220 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 2: Weekend nobody could. Cover he quickly gets off the line of. 221 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 2: Scrimmage he runs great. Routes you can see the defensive 222 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: backs playing back on their. Heels he has a. Burst 223 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: so he's going to be drafted primarily as a return, 224 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 2: specialist but he showed here at The Shrine bowl he 225 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: has receiver skills. 226 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: Too, yeah absolutely, Right AND i think he's going to 227 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: be a fun player for whatever team picks him. Up 228 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: could be a big special team's ace as we move forward, 229 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: Here all, right let's go book the tight ends. Here 230 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: TONY a strong, group a lot of the guys on 231 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: the same. Team the one interesting player on The west 232 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: team Is Sadu treris At Mississippi. State he could be 233 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: part of the Ipp International pathway. Program he's From, london 234 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: but he had a good. Day and then the other three, 235 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: guys they're all on the same, Team Eli raridan And Jack. 236 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: Injuries they both practice the first two, days they're not 237 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: practice On. Sunday and then you Have lake. McCree when 238 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: they did not Practice, sunday he stepped. Up and WHAT 239 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: i like about those three, Guys, tony they're all two 240 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: week tight. Ends they can all, block they can all 241 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: catch their in line. 242 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 2: GUYS i think McCree surprising with his, speed his ability 243 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 2: to get down the. Field eridan he showed better downfield 244 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 2: speed on. Film but like you, said it was a 245 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 2: two way tight. End treyar Of Mississippi, STATE i think 246 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: thought was the. Best it was the most athletic tight end. 247 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 2: HERE i mean he was eating up linebackers alive in 248 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 2: those one on one. Drills he Was he caught the 249 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 2: ball exception well. Smooth you see no stiffness in his. 250 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 2: GAME i know you interviewed. Him he's an interesting. Guy 251 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 2: he's a good. Interview he's got a high, upside AND 252 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: i think what happens with him is a team selects 253 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: him In day, three six round area or. So and 254 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: if you're patient with him and let him develop his, 255 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: game you're gonna have a real good tight, end no 256 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 2: question about. It all, right, one one of the guys 257 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 2: have Mentioned Lance mason Of. WISCONSIN a lot of teams 258 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 2: liked him more of your sort Of San francisco forty 259 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: nine or tight end, type if you. Will h back moves. 260 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: AROUND A Missouri state transfer went To wisconsin this. Year 261 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 2: they did not have a good, season but he showed. 262 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 2: ENOUGH i think that if he tests well before the, 263 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 2: draft he may get late round. 264 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: Consideration draft season is presented By, moody's a proud sponsor 265 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: of The New York. Giants Decode, Risk Unlock. Opportunity learn 266 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: more At moody's dot. Com all, Right, tony let's go 267 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 1: to the big boys on offense and, defense or at 268 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: the offensive line. Here AND i think the guy that 269 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: really jumped out to us Was Amil wagner At ado 270 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: of The. Dame just you look at him, like that's 271 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: kind of how you want to build an offensive tackle 272 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: in the, Factory, big, tall, long maybe a little bit 273 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: stiff in the, hips but. Man you can see why 274 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: a team would want to take a chance on him 275 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: as a guy that could start off as a swing. 276 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 2: Tackle ARMS i think were more than thirty four and 277 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 2: a half inches, yep played both left and right. Tackle 278 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 2: it shows some, stiffness but he also showed a lot of. 279 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 2: Athleticism he. DID i held his own left, tackle sliding 280 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 2: out and taking on guys Like riager Of wisconsin who 281 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: terrorized a lot of the offensive tackles played right. Tackle 282 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 2: not a real power, blocker but a good position. Blocker 283 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 2: just a lot there to work. With and you, know 284 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: we talked With eric about him before we even got down, 285 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 2: here And eric AND i agreed he's one of the 286 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 2: more athletic tackles in this, draft and people just seemed 287 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: to dismiss, him, which in my, opinion is a. 288 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: Shame the two other guys that jumped out to Me 289 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: Fabeci nawu out Of, OKLAHOMA i thought did a nice, 290 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: job and then so Did armage Read adams out Of 291 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: TEXAS a AND. M i Know Brian parker with. SOMEBODY 292 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people were watching himause he had a 293 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: position change the. Center what are their offensive linemen jumped 294 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 1: out to? 295 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 2: You, YEAH i mean The texas am could. Read he's 296 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: just a, big powerful. GUY i. Thought going at De 297 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 2: giorgio OF, UCLA i liked, him played both tackle and, 298 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 2: guard did well at both, positions fundamentally sound powerful and. 299 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: Tough you Mentioned. WAGGER i thought That Riley malman Of 300 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 2: wisconsin had a couple of good. Days played specifically left, 301 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 2: tackle long, arms long, frame but he bends his, knees 302 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 2: he blocks with. Leverage Jacob, burton the center From, kentucky 303 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 2: had his, moments struggled with The jackson Of flowerd's day, 304 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: today but, OVERALL i think he had a good. Week 305 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 2: and Then Dillon wade Of Auburn college tackle who projects 306 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 2: to guard his zone blocking. GUARD i thought he showed 307 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 2: some nice things. 308 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: Here, Yeah i'm with. You, Right let's jump to the defensive, Line. 309 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: Tony this is WHERE i think really the strength of 310 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: this class is and it starts With Daryl, jackson who 311 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: was just hard to miss six five three twenty eight 312 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: thirty five inch. ARMS i, SAID i interviewed him as. 313 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: Well again you can check that out on the podcast, 314 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: feed and men like he is just a gigantic human 315 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: being and you could see the power every rep he. 316 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: Takes no one could anchor against. Him he was just 317 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: pushing everyone back into the. Backfield but it's not just. 318 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: Power he's not just a, big stiff gap. Occupier they 319 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: ran twists and stunts with, him and he was fluidly 320 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: moving left the. Right he's not a guy that's gonna 321 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: get outside the box in lateral. Pursuit but he's not 322 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: a small area guy, Either. 323 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 2: So he's got that, size he's got that athleticism more 324 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 2: of a space. Occupier At Flower, state he showed a 325 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: lot of surprising athleticism for such a big. Guy. 326 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: HERE i Thought tyler On yedam out Of TEXAS a 327 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: AND m sixty three two ninety he was in the 328 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: backfield the first three days practice all the. Time so 329 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: Was James thompson out Of illinois six five three oh. 330 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: One so if you're looking for some penetrating three technique 331 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: defensive tackles was mighty year ber two guys that are. 332 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 2: Here, quick Explosive thompson all three, DAYS i, mean started off, 333 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 2: hot kept it. Going you mentioned the kid From TEXAS 334 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 2: a AND m beats guys off with the first. STEP 335 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: i thought That Aaron hall Of duke number ninety. ONE 336 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 2: i also had a couple good days of. Practice, Now 337 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 2: Aaron hall was a guy who wasn't on the scouting 338 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 2: radar prior to the, season but he comes here again 339 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: more of your three technique one gap type of tackle 340 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 2: with that first step plays with, leverage is able to 341 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 2: penetrate into the backfield and create. Havoc you, know the, 342 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: quarterbacks they had to move their, feet they had to 343 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: we set themselves because of his. PENETRATION i, Thought Wesley, 344 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: williams as far As, zra are we doing jump edge? 345 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 2: Ahead AND i thought ed rusher's his. Teammate Wesley williams 346 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 2: showed a lot very, athletic undersized guy Like hole struggles 347 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 2: getting off, blocks but he's, quick he could bend the, 348 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: edge and the lateral, speed the ability to change direction 349 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: and get down on the line in. Pursuit And Mason 350 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 2: rieger Of wisconsin had his moments WHERE i mean he 351 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 2: was just making some of the offensive tackles look. 352 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: Foolish, yeah and Then i'll just Told Malchi warrens out. 353 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: There he wasn't super productive this, week but you could 354 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: see the. Burst you could see the side kind of 355 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: is what you want out of an edge. Rusher and 356 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: there's one more defensive, Tackle, TONY i want to throw 357 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: out in The robinson at A. 358 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 2: Navy, YEAH i thought he was. 359 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: Fantastic on the third day of, practice only one of 360 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: the teams had a real practice On, sunday you got 361 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: a team had to walk. Through but he was part 362 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: of the real practice and, Man, tony they could not walk. 363 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: Him he was chasing quarterbacks out of the pocket and 364 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: drinked tin team drills the whole. 365 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: Practice and what were his official? Measurements because he is 366 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: your pure three technique attack. 367 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: Only five eleven but two hundred and ninety one. 368 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 2: Pounds, yeah that's your three. Technique you go back To 369 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: James red years ago At Iowa. State you, know undersize 370 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: plays with, leverage quick off the, snap can change. Direction 371 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 2: that's What robinson. Is Ethan burke Of TEXAS i thought 372 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 2: had a couple of. Day he's a. Practice he's a long. 373 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 2: Guy he's told he's athletic and bend off the. Edge 374 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: was able to exploit some of the offensive because of 375 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 2: his agilitium. 376 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: Mobility Now i'm with, you all, Right let's let's jump 377 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: over to the linebacker position, Here, tony and you Know 378 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: Eric gentry FROM, usca he was all over the. Place 379 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: then you look at him and you're, like where DO 380 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: i play this? 381 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 2: Guy? 382 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: Folks the measurements are very non linebacker. Ish i'm not 383 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 1: sure what their, ish to be honest with. You six 384 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: six two twenty one thirty five inch, arms so he 385 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,239 Speaker 1: has the, length but if you stand next to, him, 386 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 1: tony he's just so. Slender but, man he was around 387 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: the ball all three. 388 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 2: Days it looks like he should be on a basketball, 389 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 2: court not football. Field, ah but he is. Athletic he's easily. 390 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 2: Blocked it gets caught up in the. Traffic but you 391 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 2: know what you have to hope is you can put 392 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 2: some meat on those bones and then he can keep 393 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: that athleticism and that, quick this. Indigility it's been like 394 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 2: that With genji for three years, now, THOUGH i MEAN 395 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 2: i remember watching out three years, ago like, WOW i, 396 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: mean who is this? Guy he makes? Plays you, know 397 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 2: but he's so is he going to get? Bigger and 398 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 2: he never really. Has. Sometimes you, know it's tough for 399 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 2: people to gain, weight AND i know that that doesn't 400 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 2: make a lot of people out there. Happy but he 401 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 2: may be one of those guys which is a huge. 402 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 2: Metabolism he can't keep the weight on for other people's 403 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: are easy to. Gain, wait, hi not, ME i shut 404 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 2: up one of the other. LIFEBACKERS i Think Jaden duggar 405 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 2: kind of stole the. 406 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: Show Tony louisiana lafay at one of the smaller school guys. 407 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: Here he had interceptions On. Saturday he had an interception On, 408 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: sunday just all over the. Field another. Guy and if 409 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: you look at his, Measurements tony like six four and 410 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: a half two forty almost thirty five inch arms like 411 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: he looks the part. 412 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 2: Too and he's supposed to run the four six's mid 413 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 2: to low. Force watching him play that doesn't redraft. Workouts, 414 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 2: Now he's a guy who again came into the season 415 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 2: great as a street free, agent had one hundred and 416 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 2: twenty five tackles last year At University louisiana The Raging 417 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 2: cagun's and not The Yelsu, tigers and he just he's 418 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 2: a terrific run. Defender there were questions about his ability and, 419 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 2: coverage WHICH i think he answered the past couple of. 420 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 2: Days and then we should Mention Harold Perkins. 421 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 1: Junior he did not make a ton of plays over the, 422 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: weekend but you see the you see the burst AND 423 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: i like the way he interacted with his teammates so 424 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: much of you notice that whenever there was a high 425 00:18:58,880 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: five and everybody try to get. 426 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 2: Everybody they used them at off ball. 427 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: Linebacker they had him play as an edge rusher On 428 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: sunday in pass rush. Drills you see the athlete he's 429 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: measured in and, guys this is this is again very 430 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: similar To gentry in terms of where do these measurements 431 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: fit as a? Player right six, foot two hundred and twenty, 432 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: pounds this is very similar to What Landon collins measured 433 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: out actually and when he came out of college when 434 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: The giants drafted him in the second. 435 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 2: Round but he's a. Linebacker he's not a. Safety that's the. 436 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 2: TRICK i Think perkins looks more like a big safety 437 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 2: than he has a small. LINEBACKER i was disappointed In, 438 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 2: perkins BUT i have a high opinion Of. Perkins that's. 439 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 2: WHY i, mean, yeah you had him as it's A 440 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 2: day two. Peck He i've had him as in the 441 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 2: first round for the longest. TIME i, mean here's a 442 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 2: guy WHO i really think he needed to come to 443 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 2: establish himself and to dominate the, action and he really. 444 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 2: DIDN'T i mean it's Great daddy's. Here it's Great daddy's. 445 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 2: Competing you, know credit to him for doing all, that you, 446 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 2: know but, again somebody like that who has some questions. 447 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 2: Going you remember How perkins is a, freshman true FRESHMAN. 448 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 2: Lsu everybody thought he was going to be the next 449 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 2: big thing had that injury returned this, year played, well 450 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 2: but it's just something. 451 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: Missing draft season, rather part of me is presented By, 452 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: moody's a proud partner of The New York. 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GREAT i think 461 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 2: technically he was one of, the if not the best cornerback. 462 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 2: HERE a quick and smooth, backpedal which you don't see 463 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 2: a lot in college from cornerbacks because they prefer to 464 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 2: side shuffle flipped his hips in, transition you, know lost, 465 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 2: nothing worked to get his head back, around wondering what 466 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 2: his forty time was going to because sometimes he seemed 467 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 2: to struggle staying downfield with. OPPONENTS i know that he's 468 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 2: estimated to be in the four. FIVES i spoke with. 469 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 2: Him he's telling me he's gonna run a four to 470 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 2: fourth to. Combine we'll have to. SEE i, mean. 471 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 1: He's in those expectations a little. Bit not the biggest. 472 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 2: Guy in the. World may be able to play in 473 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 2: zone or backed off the line of, scrange but there's 474 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 2: a lot there to work. With. 475 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: Absolutely all, right let's go To Safety's. TONY i think 476 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: it's a better safety group than it is a corner. 477 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: Group In Jalen, husky the safety out Of, maryland made 478 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: a couple of plays on the ball over the course of. 479 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 2: PRACTICE i know he's one of the guys that you 480 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 2: were very. Excited. Yeah, ABSOLUTELY i mean he's a good run. 481 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 2: Defender the thing About husky, is even if you're Watching, 482 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 2: maryland he's, smart he's, patient he's. Disciplined he doesn't get 483 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 2: caught out of, position AND i think that showed here 484 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 2: in the one on ones against the tight. Ends he 485 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 2: was making plays defending passes in full. Scrimmage yesterday he 486 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 2: made a terrific play on an, interception so you see. 487 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 2: That you know the guy's a good run. Defender he 488 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 2: has these other skills the ability to pull it, together. 489 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: No question about, it all, Right and then a couple 490 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: of their, Safeties, TONY i want to touch on. THAT 491 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: i thought that a pretty nice. Job coley's newskap at 492 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 1: A Texas. TECH i talked to, him great, kid six 493 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: three two, fourteen and he's that type of big safety 494 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: THE nfl team looking for where you can make him 495 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: your nickelback so you can stop the run but also. 496 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: Cover and he comes from a good program In North Dakota, 497 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: state transer To Texas tech where he just got, better 498 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: and he's a very interesting. Player i'm curious to see 499 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: what his athletic test, is but if he tests well, 500 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: athletically he could end up pushing pretty high up in 501 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: the draft. 502 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 2: Class you, know you look At, wisnewski especially In North Dakota, 503 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: state he looked more like a downhill, safety almost like 504 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,959 Speaker 2: a fourth linebacker the way they used. Him and then 505 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 2: last year A Texas tech and here at The shrine 506 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 2: practices all of a, sudden he's doing a lot of different. 507 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 2: Things he's showing ability and. COVERAGE i still think he's 508 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 2: more better suited as a too deep safety or potentially 509 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 2: a traditional strong. Safety BUT i think he's done enough 510 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 2: here to push himself into the third day because you 511 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 2: know you're going to get maybe your third safety special teams, 512 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 2: player because he plays with a special team's, attitude no. 513 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: Question and by the, WAY i was just alerted to 514 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: by my editor THAT i refer To Eric gentry FROM 515 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: usc As Alvin gentry on the, video So i'm sure 516 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: he also did it on the. Podcast it is you 517 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: see hit HIS usc Linebacker Eric. Gentry pardon, me all, Right, 518 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: tony anything else from this week or this game coming 519 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 1: up on twosday you won't hit on before we jump 520 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: over to our Little Senior bowl. 521 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 2: Preview, NO i mean some of the KICKERS i was 522 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: looking at hoping to See stonehouse Of syracuse boot the 523 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 2: ball through the. Ceiling really they didn't really do too much. 524 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 2: Pumping they did a lot of life kicking. Today but, no, 525 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 2: NO i think we we hit on it all. 526 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: All, Right so let's let's kind of roll Through Senior 527 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 1: bowl QUICKER i don't spend too much time on, it 528 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: but we'll both three position, Group, tony we can each. 529 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 2: Give one guy that we're excited. About. 530 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: Quarterback, again if you look at the draft class in, 531 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: General Diego. PAVIA i know people be excited to see 532 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: him just because of the you, Know heisman and all that, 533 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: stuff but he's going to be a late, pick if 534 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: not A priori free. AGENT i know you're excited about 535 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 1: to see tailoring greed in person of markansall, right you've 536 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: been kind of advocating for him all. 537 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 2: Year incredible, athlete but a guy that's got to put it. 538 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 2: Together do we know for a Fact Ty simpson's not 539 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 2: going to be? 540 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: THERE i have not heard that either. Way how? Many 541 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: because there are six guys right? 542 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 2: Now. OKAY i was wondering about that because you, Know 543 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 2: drew told us In january he wanted eight quarterbacks the. 544 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: Roster So i'm wondering If fox ticking, Exactly, Kai Ty, 545 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 2: Simpson carson, back or were just they're just gonna sit 546 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 2: with those. 547 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: Six, yeah again and. Again maybe the website on The 548 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: Senior bowls not. Updated that's What i'm going off of. 549 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: HERE i figure that's the most. Updated maybe they still 550 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: haven't got the final. Decision, YEAH i want to See goatnosmier. 551 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: TOO i think that would be. FUN a guy that, 552 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: was you, know thought to be a first round pick 553 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: before the season, started and now obviously he has. Dropped 554 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: i'm sure he would still like to push himself up 555 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: Into day. Two we'll see if he can help himself 556 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: with the senior but which a lot of guys can. 557 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: Do all, right let's jump over to the running back position, 558 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: Here Tony AS i look at this group and you 559 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: got Two Penn state. Packs Nick, singleton M Catron. Allen 560 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: i'm a little disappointed that the Second Notre dame running 561 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: back didn't end up going. THERE i think might Yet 562 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: Price Jordan Coleman i'm excited about From. WASHINGTON i, think you, 563 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 1: know he's kind of that, low low center of, gravity 564 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: quicker more so than. Fast but he was a good 565 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: back for The huskies this. 566 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 2: Year Jade not Of oklahoma is going to be a 567 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 2: guy to. Watch he was a late. Ad, yeah and, 568 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 2: now well we'll go through the whole. Story two seasons, 569 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 2: ago Jayde not was graded as a second day pick by, 570 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 2: scouts and then in twenty twenty four he had a 571 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 2: bad season at At, california his production was. Minimal transferred To, 572 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 2: oklahoma whose general, managers by the, way Won Jim naggy 573 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 2: and did nothing At oklahoma this year to the point 574 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 2: where you can't you can't draft. HIM i mean there's 575 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: been no production for two years. Now Now Jim naggy 576 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 2: gets him into or somebody gets him into the senior. 577 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 2: Balls so Sure jim made a call On so you, 578 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 2: know it's sort of some potential With. Dempster the thing 579 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 2: without is, this he's got good, size he's got blazing. 580 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 2: Speed he beats defenders into the open field and it 581 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 2: could take it the. Distance he was a solid pass. 582 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 2: Catcher he's just been he's just disappeared the past two. 583 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 1: Years and we do have some exciting wide receivers THAT 584 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: i might be. There tony and this headline By Casey 585 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: concepcion out Of TEXAS a AND. M he's probably gonna 586 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: be the highest drafted wide receiver. There BUT i also 587 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: want to Throw Elijah sarat out, there who's kind of 588 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: that big, bodied you. 589 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 2: KNOW x. Receiver he's six to, two he's two. 590 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: Twenty he'll probably be a Lite day two pick or 591 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: Early day three. 592 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 2: Pick some more in that. 593 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: Area but those are the two wide receivers that at 594 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 1: least jump out to Make. 595 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,719 Speaker 2: We gotta hope That sarat's Dare, REMEMBER i, mean The 596 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 2: indiana guys didn't come to The Shrine, BOWL i was 597 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 2: told because they couldn't fly. Out and the fact is 598 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 2: His Senior bowl practices start On, tuesday that's just eight 599 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: days removed from The National championship. Game With, sarat you're 600 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 2: gonna look at his. Quickness can he, separate can he 601 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 2: get says that any kind of burst or is he 602 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 2: separation in one on ones will be? Huge or is 603 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 2: he just a contested catch. Guy if he's just a 604 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 2: contested catch, guy he's gonna go much later than. Expected 605 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 2: you Mentioned Harrison Casey conception was the other guy THAT i. Mentioned, 606 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 2: Yeah Harrison wallace Of mississippi by way Of Penn. State 607 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 2: he's a. Blazer he's a guy that can get. Downfield 608 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 2: i'm hanging on a, second you're going to. It i'm 609 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 2: sorry about telling About Malachi fields Of Notre. Dame another 610 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,719 Speaker 2: bigger possession wide out who's got some. Quickness you want 611 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 2: to see if he can separate from his. Opponents Ted 612 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 2: hurst Of Georgia state a Guy i've really liked watch 613 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 2: in the past two. Years he's been all over Ted. 614 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 2: Hurst he's a bigger. Guy he's an exceptional pass, catcher 615 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 2: productive pass catcher in the Sundealt you, KNOW i Think 616 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 2: Georgia state was one and eleven last. Year they were. 617 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 2: Terrible now he gets a step up in, competition really 618 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 2: can make a statement at the. Game all, right let's 619 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 2: jump over now to the tight end. 620 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: Position tony again is a very deep tight end, class 621 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: so not a surprise that it's a good. Group Tanner 622 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: kozil out Of houston is a guy THAT i would watch. 623 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: Again he's a guy that can do a little. Everything 624 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: he's a two way tight. End that's probably the guy 625 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 1: That i'm most excited about at the tight end. 626 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 2: Spot Watch Dj rodgers as, well a guy who is 627 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 2: a really good athlete but hasn't been a very productive tight. 628 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 2: End interested to See Dan valarry Of, syracuse who's a 629 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 2: very late ad that was kind of an interesting roster. 630 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 2: SPOT i had a good year last season At. Syrahcuse you, 631 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,239 Speaker 2: know is he AN nfl? Prospect we'll find out next. 632 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 2: Week all, right let's jump over to the offensive line. 633 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 1: Here tony and you always have all eyes on THOSE 634 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: o LINE d line one on, ones which is why 635 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: this is gonna be a lot of. 636 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 2: Fun and Tree, ZOON i, know is someone. 637 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: That that you have a you have a little uh 638 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: on the line with how how he does here and 639 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: Then worrey might end up getting. Drafted Jennings dunker out 640 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: Of iowa played tackle in. COLLEGE i bet you that 641 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: we gonna see him guard at The Senior. Bowl would 642 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: would be my. Guess your Man Isaiah world From oregon 643 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: is going to be. There his uh his Teammate Emmanuel 644 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: pregnant is going to be. There and those to me 645 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: are probably the guys that jump out of me to. 646 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: Most in terms of the offensive line, grip. 647 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 2: Watch Max Aana colr From Arizona. State he is a, big, 648 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 2: physical athletic right. Tackle he has been a mauler the 649 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 2: past two. Years i'm really excited to watch. Him you, 650 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 2: know there are some positions at The Senior bowl, quarterback, 651 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 2: cornerback and offensive. Tackle Boston. Corbett we can go through 652 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 2: the names that guys who would just create on pass 653 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 2: walking that watched their draft stocks take. OFF a core 654 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 2: Of Arizona state has that. 655 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: OPPORTUNITY a good group to watch and then really Much 656 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: tony like like this group here at at The East 657 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: West shrine, game the defensive line group is just really really. 658 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: STRONG i guess we'll start with the DT's here because 659 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: those are the guys in the middle and the guys 660 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: you take a look at. Here you, Know Dom orange 661 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: was supposed to be. THERE i don't believe he's going 662 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: to Be i'm told he's not going to be. There, 663 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: well if the see ends up going. There Taylor banks 664 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: out Of Florida tony obviously a very good. Player he's 665 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,719 Speaker 1: more of your your your plugger if you want an 666 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: up to the field. 667 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 2: Guy Zing duran out Of Stage banks. Ahead Remember banks 668 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 2: only played two games last. Season that's. RIGHT a lot 669 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 2: of people had high hopes For banks coming in the. 670 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 2: Season people thought first round scouts created him as a 671 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 2: mid second. Rounder he only played two. Games this is 672 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 2: redemption time for, him. 673 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: No question anybody, else the bigger guys in the middle 674 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: that that you want to keep an eye, on or 675 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: SHOULD i jump to the ends and Edges. 676 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 2: Hunter lee Of Texas tech Es Central florida. Transfer he 677 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 2: was a guy At Central, florida but he turned into 678 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 2: the man At texas. TECH i mean he is a 679 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 2: three hundred and thirty pound. Athlete you, know we talked 680 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 2: about some of the guys here who, move and talk 681 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 2: About Daryl. Jackson how will he moved? Here you Watch 682 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 2: Hunter lee on, tape you know he's not just a 683 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 2: guy that occupies the. Gaps he can move, laterally he 684 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 2: can twist and. Stunt that's going to be a guy 685 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 2: to watch all. 686 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: Right, now let's go to the defensive end and edge 687 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: players Here, tony which are really. Exciting it is probably 688 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: the best group. HERE i Like Max llewellen from From. 689 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: IOWA i think his tape is. Good Danny Dennis, SUTTON 690 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: i know he'd a disappointed year this, year BUT i 691 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,479 Speaker 1: got him AS i watched him. AGAIN i still think 692 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: he's a good. Player, Absolutely he's got that potential no. 693 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: BETTER i think he's still gonna get drafted fairly. High 694 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: Romelo height you want you know who reminded me Of? 695 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: Remello He Nick benito WHEN i watched, him kind of 696 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: like the. 697 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 2: Speed rusher off the edge was a little more. Explosive 698 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 2: BUT i think that's a good. 699 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: COMPARISON i think there's similar BUT i Think height will 700 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: go be a lot earlier Than benito, did BECAUSE i. 701 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 2: Think it was a second. Round it wasn't he. 702 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: Did he GOES i as a second round a little bit. 703 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 2: Later, okay so you know, what he's turned out to 704 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 2: be a great. PLAYER i just thought it was hopefully 705 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 2: underraty to come out At. Oklahoma so those guys may 706 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 2: end up. 707 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: Going around the. Same we'll see where they end up. 708 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: Going those two. 709 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 2: Guys really good. Players and then T. 710 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: J parker at A clemson that that might be the 711 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: highest drafted player there. 712 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 2: Coming off a bad, season absolutely disappointing. Season and Then 713 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 2: Zion Young Ada. 714 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: MISSOURI i think he's a guy that's going to either 715 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: be an Early day two pick or even going to 716 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: be sneaking to the end of round. One so there 717 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: are a bunch of. Guys two guys they didn't mention 718 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: With Ruby man And David. Belly we'll see if they 719 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,479 Speaker 1: end up participating or. Not but just even without those two, 720 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: Guys tony And gabe Jack is From, illinois by the, 721 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: way another really good edge. 722 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 2: Player one guy that you failed to mention THAT i 723 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 2: can't wait to see Is Derek moore out Of. Michigan 724 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 2: comes out of a three point, stance stands over. Tackle 725 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 2: he's just absolutely. Explosive he is a game wrecker up, 726 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 2: front not the biggest guy in the. World was about 727 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty five pounds or estimated about two 728 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: hundred sixty five. Pounds want to see what his weight 729 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 2: is at The Senior bowl on how he. 730 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: PERFORMS i am a Huge Derek moore. GUY lti Overton 731 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: Tyren sap was. Elevated he was really going to be. 732 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: Here he ended up going to A Senior. Bowl and 733 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: then we'll see if again played in A national. Championshiame 734 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: we'll see if it keep as a door. Participates we 735 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: never know what these guys that played so late in the. 736 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: Year all, right let me scroll down, here get to 737 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: our linebackers, Here tony very quickly as we kind of 738 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: scroll through the rest of the. Defense we got to 739 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: wrap this. UP i got it a couple of interviews 740 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: coming down. HERE i know you're a big calob elams 741 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: or guy FROM. TCUs Jacob rodriguez From, Texas texas and 742 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: one we've talked about. 743 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 2: Here who else you could? About Thus rodriguez is great 744 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 2: making plays up the. Field he basically is the master 745 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 2: of the, punch the, punch, Fumble, uh you, know let's 746 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 2: see if he can what he can do making plays 747 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 2: in Reverse elam's OR i like, him want to see 748 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 2: what his speed is H and who else we got on? 749 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 2: There Xavian shory Of. Arkansas So arkansas had a terrible. 750 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 2: Season but if you're looking for a one gap running chase, 751 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 2: Linebacker sary is that type of. 752 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: Guy all, right let's go to the defensive backs, Here. 753 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: Tony we got to talk about safeties and cornerbacks. Together 754 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: a couple of Guys i'm excited. ABOUT i Thought Chris 755 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: johnson's tape And San dieo tape was. SPECTACULAR i Thought 756 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: chandler rivers tape It duke was, very very. GOOD i 757 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: was impressed by both those. Guys with The Colin writs 758 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: tape From stanford was also pretty. Good SO i think 759 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: there are some corners, Here tony that maybe a lot 760 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: of people aren't talking about. Now but if they do 761 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: well with the senior bawl against a pretty good wide receiver, 762 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: GROUP i think they can really help themselves in what's 763 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: not considered the deepest position of the. 764 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 2: Draft Chandler rivers is a smaller. Guy see how he 765 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 2: does against those bigger. Receivers is he a? Nickelback is 766 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 2: he a? Dineback Charles demings out Of steven. F austin 767 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 2: a terrific athlete who's got. Upside how does he fare 768 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 2: against better? Competition And Julie neil out Of. Arkansas Again 769 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 2: arkansas guys have been overlooked because of the terrible season they. 770 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 2: Have neil's got, size he's got, speed and he's shown 771 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 2: terrific ball skills in the. 772 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: Past owen trad And stukes is someone we should mention 773 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: who's kind of like a safety slot combo. 774 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 2: Guy D'Angel ponds is supposed to be. There he did. 775 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: Commit we'll see if he ends up doing anything. Again 776 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: National champion game that gets really tight and, close we'll 777 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: see what happens with. Him and Then Colton hood From. 778 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: Tennessee that was a really good. Ad he might be 779 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: the highest drafted corner in this. Screw he may be LIKE. 780 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 2: Tj parker on the first, rounder absolutely to come to 781 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 2: come out of The Senior. Bowl but he was the 782 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 2: guy who took basically picked up the slat When Gerrod 783 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 2: mayo went down with the. Injury the other Kid i'm 784 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 2: looking forward to seeing Is jalen. McMurray Of Tennessee temple 785 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 2: transfer was highly rated At, temple his game kind of fell. 786 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 2: Off if you watch The tennessee tape this, Year jalen, 787 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 2: McMurray who was there nickelback outside guy after the injury to, 788 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,479 Speaker 2: McCoy made a lot of positive. Plays So i'm looking 789 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 2: forward to watching. 790 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 1: Him And i'll tell, You, tony the one guy That 791 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: i'm gonna be watching one thing when it comes To 792 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: Ohio state Corner davison ab. 793 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 2: Big noosene flags get. 794 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: Thrown he's covering one on one because he's a, big, 795 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: physical fast, corner but, man he gets. 796 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 2: Handsy so it's someoneolf to keep an. EYE i hate 797 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 2: to say, it but you, know it's like a lot 798 00:34:55,520 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 2: Of Ohio state corners where the best season was freshman 799 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 2: of sophomore season and it kind of leveled. Off we're 800 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 2: not doing long. 801 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: Snappers if you would like to do special, Teams i'm 802 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: very happy To now we'll. 803 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 2: See we'll wait until after. It you, know this guy 804 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 2: was a great kicking the. 805 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: Ball, well here's knocking on wood that we will be 806 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: there for the first practice On, tuesday we. Hope SO 807 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: dfw get your act. 808 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 2: TOGETHER i get out there with a shovel if they 809 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 2: needed to get. 810 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: The plow on the, runway get some, salt and if 811 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: everything works, out we will see you in mobile for 812 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: reports starting On, tuesday and then we'll record a. Pod 813 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 1: tony will join us on The Giants huddle with me 814 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: And Matthew sittak to wrap up the week after practice On. 815 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 2: Thursday because you're. 816 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 1: Flying Off friday, morning you're probably flying On thursday Night friday, Morning, 817 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: okay so well, time so full time or late On, 818 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: thursday and. 819 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 2: Hopefully it'll be a lot warmer mobile than it's. 820 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: Been here's supposed to be In, dallas supposed to be 821 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: anywhere from forty five to fifty five depending on The 822 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: it's about. 823 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 2: Sixty degrees warmer than it is. 824 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 1: Here absolutely, Right, tony good, stuff my. Friends always a. 825 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: Pleasure it's been fun spending time With tony here and 826 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: first go we head off to. Mobile that was this 827 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: episode Of Draft, season presented By, moody's a op sponsor 828 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: of The New York. Giants will talk to you from 829 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:02,959 Speaker 1: The Senior bowl