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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Matt and Dale get traded for Patrick certain.

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Speaker 3: Who says no?

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Speaker 4: Who says no, You'll throw in a seventh rounder in

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Speaker 4: a bag of chips.

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Speaker 3: I just want to remind everybody that the trade deadline

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Speaker 3: is coming up Tuesday in the NFL, and don't be

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Speaker 3: the person that falls for the fake tweeters.

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Speaker 4: Adam Shifter.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like it has somebody's photo on there. Make sure

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Speaker 3: you look at who's actually tweeting it out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I guess there's less blue check marks nowadays, and.

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Speaker 2: That's yeah, that's also a problem on the next Twitter.

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Speaker 4: But I used to have one, Now I don't anymore. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm paying for it.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I'm not going to pay for that, but

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Speaker 3: I don't Steelers wouldn't say no to that, I guess,

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Speaker 3: but I'm guessing the Broncos would.

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Speaker 4: I don't think the Broncos have any use for us.

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Speaker 4: We're more valuable to Steelers than any other team, I

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Speaker 4: would say.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know that.

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Speaker 4: That's that's debatable as well. Not a lot of proof

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Speaker 4: of that. I don't know. Maybe the Steelers make a deal,

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Speaker 4: who knows. But I mean, I've been avoiding Twitter in

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Speaker 4: this conversation quite a bit, but I'm sure everywhere you

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Speaker 4: look is oh, seiers are five.

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Speaker 3: Seconds trade this guy, that guy a third round pick

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty seven for this guy.

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Speaker 2: That's like, it's not happening.

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Speaker 3: Folks.

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Speaker 4: Before we hit record, you had some kind of three

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Speaker 4: way deal where the Steelers ended up with Edmunds came back.

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Speaker 4: Chase Young entertained, like, we just throw those three into

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Speaker 4: the defense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they gave it. Yeah, he gave up three

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Speaker 2: draft picks.

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Speaker 4: And more and Wallace and there first born and yeah right, yeah,

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Speaker 4: not really how it works.

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Speaker 3: No, no, uh.

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Speaker 2: Anyways, he's Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lawy.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to the Driver on Steelers Nation Radio, and

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Speaker 3: we should kick off the show today Matt by talking

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Speaker 3: about Kim Haywards. Oh any one day window being open today.

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Speaker 4: We definitely should. Except for the clam chowder today was impacted.

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Speaker 4: Super Steeler soup was at an all time high today

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Speaker 3: The last two days they have my my favorite, the

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Speaker 4: I have had the beef Barley's tremendous.

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Speaker 3: And the second day of the beef barley. The only

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Speaker 3: thing that beats first day beef barley is second day

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Speaker 2: It's a night to marinate.

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Speaker 4: Today was second day chowder though right today was yesterday.

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Speaker 3: They had chowder and beef barley. You must have lost

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Speaker 3: your mind talk about I just wanted to get soup

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Speaker 4: I did today. I had one little piece of pizza

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Speaker 3: Try that the next time. Barley with the clam.

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Speaker 4: Chowder that you're your tainting perfection though I know I was.

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Speaker 4: Actually I almost pulled the thing out that they serve

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Speaker 3: The super Cam Hayward eats right.

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Speaker 2: Miracle recovery.

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Speaker 4: It's great for everyone.

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Speaker 3: H So Cam Hayward back on the practice field today

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Speaker 4: and not everyone knows you can. Well, you do. You

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Speaker 4: open a player's window, they're still uninjured reserve, they're not

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Speaker 3: We activate him and okay, now we got to sit

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Speaker 3: This may have been you know, he was dealing with

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Speaker 3: been a maintenance day.

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Speaker 2: Let's just give you a day.

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Speaker 3: Off after a full practice yesterday. Joey Porter Junior, with

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Speaker 4: They just didn't activate him because they didn't think they

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Speaker 3: He's healthy, yes, yeah, getting hell and you know they

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Speaker 2: They have to do that.

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Speaker 3: Levi Wallace with the foot was a limited participant yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Cole Holcomb was a full participant again today the ankle.

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Speaker 3: Hayward with that growing was a limited participant. Larry Ogin

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Speaker 3: Joby practiced yesterday, did not practice today with a shoulder.

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Speaker 4: It's rare that he practices Wednesdays in general, though, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Because you know, they were just kind of again, you

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Speaker 3: don't know if these are maintenance type things. Ogunjoby typically

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Speaker 3: A lot of situations, so but yeah, we'll keep an

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Speaker 3: eye on Deontay Johnson. I think that was a maintenance

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Speaker 4: That's the news though, I mean the Camus side, I

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: For the Jacksonville Jaguars, Tyson Campbell gets another limited today,

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Speaker 3: two days in a row. He has a hamstring. Andre

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Speaker 4: He's an active player.

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Speaker 2: That's two days in a row for him.

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Speaker 3: And then Trevor, Lawrence, Walker Little and Brandon Brandon s

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean starting offensive linemen need to be in there, obviously.

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Speaker 3: One of your starting guards and your quarterback.

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Speaker 4: No, your quarterback, and I guess that's the big news.

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Speaker 4: Two guys in the secondary, two that are starters, you know.

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Speaker 4: So it's not a clean bill of health.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure Lawrence is still feeling it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he played well in this last game.

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Speaker 3: He ran a lot into the game and the adrenaline

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Speaker 4: But it BET's bugging them all week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't mean you come out of the game,

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Speaker 3: and oh that didn't I don't feel much better.

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Speaker 4: Now, just wake up in more pain on Monday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, I was out there running around like a maniac.

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Speaker 3: That's good for the knee.

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Speaker 4: So deonts want to watch. Certainly those O line ones

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Speaker 3: Let's all about that.

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Speaker 4: I know you had some good points on this.

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Speaker 3: So Tyson Campbell this season, he's their right cornerback. He

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Speaker 4: So they're not only the a real heavy zone team,

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Speaker 4: but they're a real heavy cover three team. Like it's

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Speaker 4: he's gonna be in charge of that third to pick

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Speaker 3: Here's a little Cover three information for you, but you

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Speaker 4: I don't so.

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Speaker 3: Deontay Johnson last season against Cover three average two point

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Speaker 4: Well, that's a big number.

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Speaker 3: That's a big number.

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Speaker 4: Over two is huge.

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Speaker 2: I mean he kills Cover three.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that makes a lot of sense because he's really

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Speaker 4: good attacking them between that linebacker and that's spy back

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Speaker 2: That's a quick slant that you're thinking about it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, or the out right in front of the corner

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Speaker 4: when he gives you the big cushion from three. I

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Speaker 4: could see that. That makes all sense in the world. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and some un right enough to catch maybe through through

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Speaker 3: On the other side of that, their left cornerback, Darius Williams.

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Speaker 3: He's allowed twenty seven completions on fifty targets, so he's

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Speaker 4: Yeah. People remember people throw the game though too. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: he missed two games ago, two games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's allowing fourteen yards per catch but only

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Speaker 3: corner Trey Herndon twenty nine completions on thirty eight attempts. Wow,

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Speaker 3: what ten yards per catch? It's a one oh six

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Speaker 3: Make throw eighty yards passing per games. Yeah, that's not

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Speaker 4: You need to be in that neighborhood.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this will be an interesting game in

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Speaker 4: The same ye, right around this neighborhood, Nah, just after Halloween.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers go in there.

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Speaker 3: Now, to this point, they'd had they'd lost to like

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Speaker 4: Wow, okay, and that's not their style.

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Speaker 3: a like, Hey, these guys learn from Hey, last year

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Speaker 4: Yeah, can we take that next step?

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Speaker 3: Can we take that next step? I thought in that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a six and three Bears team six

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Speaker 4: Who's the Bears quarterback when they were explosive? So that's

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm trying to think you they're a good player

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Speaker 3: Murders road, No, it's not.

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Speaker 2: But they were a.

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Speaker 4: Dec they were doing well.

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Speaker 4: Even the four wide stuff was really innovative for that time.

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Speaker 3: You had Mills, thig Pen, Johnson, Hastings, and then you

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Speaker 4: Yeah that weapon, Yeah, that weapon interesting. So no, but

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Speaker 4: The running game was three point five yards per carry.

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Speaker 3: And Okay, if you lose this game, if it's a

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Speaker 2: To lose a close game. Yeah, they're four and in

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Speaker 3: I mean, and the Jaguars are goodding these things too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you just want to go out and see this

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Speaker 4: Or when the world knows you're throwing you still you still.

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Speaker 3: Do Yeah, yeah, you're still able to do it.

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Speaker 4: But I do like those Steelers weapons. Assuming there's no

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Speaker 3: Well I do too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think that's where your best matchups

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. Hey, we're gonna get to a break when we

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Speaker 3: I'm Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson And on

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Speaker 3: the left phone line here we have well, the Lord

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Speaker 2: Bob Labriola, the Bob Labriola. We'll give you that too.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, Labs, Well.

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Speaker 5: You know, last week you kind of brow beat me

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I'm just.

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Speaker 3: Existence, grumpy old man.

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Speaker 5: Well yeah, hey, I mean, as they say, it is

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Speaker 3: You're gonna be at least somewhat happy today, Bob, because

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Speaker 3: the Steelers opened the practice window for Cam Hayward for

447
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Speaker 3: a potential return.

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Speaker 5: Yes, that that is. That is nice. I mean, the

449
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Speaker 5: NFL's number twenty eight ranked run defense could certainly use

450
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Speaker 5: the help. And you know, I just think that having

451
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Speaker 5: Cam Hayward back at practice and then.

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Speaker 6: Hopefully gearing towards rather quick return maybe the Thursday game,

453
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Speaker 6: which is after this Jacksonville game, return to action, and just.

454
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Speaker 5: Having him around more, you know. I mean, I don't think,

455
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Speaker 5: as Mike Thumbell would say, Cam Heyward needs no endorsement

456
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Speaker 5: from me in terms of being a player, But he's

457
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Speaker 5: also a presence a leader, and I also think that

458
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 5: he's one of those guys that just him being there

459
00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:26,680
Speaker 5: makes everybody else feel tougher. You well, well, but I mean,

460
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Speaker 5: you know, it's like when you as you and Gale,

461
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Speaker 5: you've been around long enough to know Hal Hunter. Okay,

462
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Speaker 5: when he was the offensive line coach, Hunter too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 5: He always referred to Mike Webster as he always said

466
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Speaker 5: about him. He said, it's like walking down a dark

467
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Speaker 5: alley carrying a big stick. You know, you just you

468
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Speaker 5: just feel, you know, you're walking a little more confidently.

469
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Speaker 5: And you know, having him the excuse me, having Cam

470
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Speaker 5: there makes you I think, has that kind of a

471
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Speaker 5: fact on the defense in addition to what he will

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Speaker 5: add as a player.

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Speaker 3: And it allows guys who we've seen this in the past,

474
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Speaker 3: you know, when they're missing to it or when they

475
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Speaker 3: were missing Hey, we're guys who have been playing perhaps

476
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Speaker 3: more snaps than what they should be playing that to

477
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Speaker 3: go back to their more comfortable roles.

478
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean absolutely. And that's one of the things

479
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Speaker 5: with injuries. You know, it's not so much in some cases,

480
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,439
Speaker 5: not necessarily this one, because there is no one for

481
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Speaker 5: one replacement for Cam Heyward, but a lot of times

482
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Speaker 5: with an injury, what it does, it's the trickle down

483
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Speaker 5: effect because the number I don't know, the number two

484
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Speaker 5: defensive tackle becomes the number one, but then the number

485
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Speaker 5: three becomes the number two, and then number four becomes

486
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Speaker 5: the number three, and so yes, there is that trickle down.

487
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Speaker 5: And what I'm saying is just a different way what

488
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Speaker 5: you just said. More guys are playing more snaps than

489
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Speaker 5: they probably had planned for them to play, and probably

490
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Speaker 5: you know, when it deserved to play at the time

491
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Speaker 5: of the injury. So you know you're getting back in

492
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Speaker 5: All Pro team captain. I mean, you know, uh, It's

493
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Speaker 5: it's pretty obvious all the benefits that are just sitting

494
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Speaker 5: there waiting.

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Speaker 4: So I'm not disagreeing with anything of you guys are

496
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Speaker 4: saying at all. And none of these dudes are Cam

497
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Speaker 4: Hayward and I don't even think this is what you're saying.

498
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Speaker 4: But I've been pretty happy with Adams Leal, certainly Benton

499
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Speaker 4: and og Job's Ogunjobi.

500
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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean, but let's let's be honest here.

501
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Speaker 5: The pile has never fallen the wrong way with Cam Hayward.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, I mean, I'm not comparing those.

503
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Speaker 5: Well, but that's what I mean. So you have that

504
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Speaker 5: physical presence that Again, I don't necessarily disagree with what

505
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Speaker 5: you just said either, but there's no blowing You're not

506
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Speaker 5: blowing Cam Hayward off the ball. I mean, that's and

507
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Speaker 5: I just don't believe that that's that's something that you

508
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Speaker 5: can expect to happen on a regular basis.

509
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Speaker 3: And the other thing it does, Bob, is it gives

510
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Speaker 3: you another quality pass rusher, like no offense to any

511
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Speaker 3: of the other guys. But Cam, Cam's a double digit

512
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Speaker 3: sack guy.

513
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Speaker 4: And you'll notice they're trying to get those edge guys

514
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Speaker 4: to get even further and further away from the ball

515
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Speaker 4: with alignment. And if you can have them one more

516
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Speaker 4: interior presence, I think he could really feast well.

517
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Speaker 5: And you know the other thing he does is you know,

518
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Speaker 5: he pushes the pocket and so there's I would imagine

519
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Speaker 5: just in the pass rush there would there will be

520
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 5: considerably less you know, stepping up. Uh. And so sometimes

521
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Speaker 5: if you're keeping the guys out of the middle, you know,

522
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Speaker 5: you're making them more available for Heismith and one because

523
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Speaker 5: if they can't step up then because there are times,

524
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Speaker 5: you know, hey, TJ's having a great season. I you know,

525
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Speaker 5: make no mistake, don't mistake what I'm about to say,

526
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Speaker 5: but there are times when he and Heismith pushed behind

527
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Speaker 5: the quarterback, and you know a lot of times that's

528
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Speaker 5: not that big of an issue, if at all. But

529
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Speaker 5: it can't happen against Lamar and Jackson. I mean, and

530
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Speaker 5: you know, those kind of people.

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Speaker 2: Probably shouldn't happen against Trevor Lawrence.

532
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Speaker 5: This.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Lawrence runs a lot too.

534
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Speaker 5: Now, well, yeah he's not Lamar, but but he's got

535
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Speaker 5: that brace on his knee and he's been a limited

536
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Speaker 5: participant in practice both days so far this week. I

537
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Speaker 5: don't know that I'm not saying that you can get

538
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Speaker 5: careless with him, but I don't think he's He's certainly

539
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Speaker 5: not Lamar Jackson, and I don't think right now he's

540
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Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 3: Well, he just came off of the last game that

542
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Speaker 3: he played in Bob and this was he already he

543
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Speaker 3: was dealing with the knee injury. He had his career

544
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Speaker 3: high in rushing yards. So you know, maybe he gets

545
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Speaker 3: into the game and the adrenaline starts to flow and

546
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Speaker 3: then he doesn't bother him. I don't know, or maybe

547
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Speaker 3: he tweaked it during the game and made it worse.

548
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Speaker 2: I have no idea.

549
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Speaker 3: I'm not there something, but he's still somebody that you know,

550
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Speaker 3: you do have to be cognizant of that, and you

551
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 3: can't push past it. You can't push the pocket straight

552
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 3: up the field and expect him not to hurt you here.

553
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Speaker 3: And they're not gonna have Cam Hayward for this week.

554
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Speaker 3: Let's let's let's clear that up. He's not gonna They're

555
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 3: not gonna activate him for Sunday's game. But to your point,

556
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Speaker 3: it's gonna be soon and you get that guy back.

557
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Speaker 3: So now I think, you know, maybe the rest of

558
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Speaker 3: the defensive line. I don't know if you if you

559
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Speaker 3: you've been playing on such an edge for these last

560
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Speaker 3: you know, five weeks, six weeks without him, But now

561
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Speaker 3: you can start looking down the road a little bit.

562
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Speaker 3: Maybe you have a little more pep in your step

563
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Speaker 3: this week, Like, okay, help's coming.

564
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Speaker 2: Did we lose Bob?

565
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Speaker 3: I think so, oh we did lose Bob.

566
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Speaker 4: Well there you have.

567
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Speaker 2: Well, let me see if I can get Bob back

568
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Speaker 2: on the air here.

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Speaker 4: You had great stuff to say there, though I was

570
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Speaker 4: out of standing on the edge of my seat. We'll

571
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Speaker 4: work on that. Yeah, I try to do the Hayward

572
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Speaker 4: Stuff's obviously very As Bob mentioned, I think there's a

573
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Speaker 4: trickle effect in terms of just him being on the

574
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Speaker 4: practic field. I mean, you think Benton's paying attention to

575
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Speaker 4: you know, what Cam Hayward does on the practice field,

576
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 4: things like that. I mean that young room, Louer Milk

577
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 4: and al and those guys.

578
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Speaker 3: Yeah, just having him back, and I'm sure he's been

579
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 3: I know he's been around the facility because I've seen

580
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Speaker 3: him there. Yeah, but he's not doing football stuff.

581
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 5: Yeah.

582
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Speaker 3: Now, all of a sudden you start to see that

583
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 3: guy out on the field working and you know, now

584
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Speaker 3: it's like, okay, we get let me get this guy back.

585
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 4: That's how you get off the ball or you know,

586
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 4: there's a lot to learn there. You know, he's gonna

587
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 4: rub off in a positive way on practice field.

588
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Speaker 2: We're trying to help Bob.

589
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is live radio, this is good stuff.

590
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 3: But yeah, so how about that clam chowder? That clam

591
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 3: chowder was awesome today. It was awesome. Bus on the

592
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Speaker 3: way into Yeah, I did that too.

593
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Speaker 2: So you know, the do we get Bob back? Oh

594
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Speaker 2: there we go.

595
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Speaker 3: I don't know what happened there, Labs, but we lost you.

596
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 3: I was making a very sallient point, but now I

597
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 3: forgot what it was. Anyways, let's move on to to

598
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 3: there's the old saying that you are what your record

599
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 3: says you are. So the record says the Steelers are

600
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 3: a four and two team, but there's still people out

601
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 3: there that don't believe it. Where do you, I mean,

602
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 3: where do you fall on this? They beat the Ravens,

603
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 3: they beat the Browns, they went out to Los Angeles

604
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 3: and beat the Rams. Who are you know people were

605
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 3: thought were a decent football team.

606
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Speaker 5: Well, I don't know what you know. Again, I don't

607
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 5: know what a four and two team is except the

608
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Speaker 5: team that won four of his first six games. You know,

609
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 5: the whole concept of you know, style, points or there's

610
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Speaker 5: some sort of standard of performance you need to achieve

611
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Speaker 5: to be considered worthy of winning the game in the

612
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Speaker 5: National Football League. I mean, I don't you know that's

613
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Speaker 5: That's not all they spent all those months on that

614
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,719
Speaker 5: money on those scoreboards. You know, you don't have to

615
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 5: be anything except better than the team you're playing that day.

616
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Speaker 5: I mean, that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: One more points in that team.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean and and by by whatever means necessary.

619
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Speaker 5: So yeah, I don't I get it that, you know,

620
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Speaker 5: the setup of a of an NFL schedule one game

621
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Speaker 5: a week or you know, certainly not necessarily one game

622
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 5: every seven days, but one game a week on an

623
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Speaker 5: average over you know, eighteen weeks including by you know,

624
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 5: you only have to be better than what the opponents

625
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 5: you're playing there. And so, you know, I get it

626
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 5: that there's a lot of time to talk about things

627
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 5: and rehash things and analyze things based on the NFL schedule.

628
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 5: But you know, really, when you get right down to it,

629
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Speaker 5: except for all the blathering around, you know, and you guys,

630
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Speaker 5: I mean that's your job.

631
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Speaker 3: That's what we do, right, No, I get it to

632
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Speaker 3: our day.

633
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Speaker 5: But it really it really doesn't mean anything. I mean,

634
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 5: you know, it's how they how they perform in the games.

635
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 5: And then again all the time allows for a lot

636
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 5: of analysis, uh and and examination and all that kind

637
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 5: of stuff. But again, through through all of that and

638
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 5: everybody needs to fill the cyber space and the airwaves

639
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 5: and all that stuff that you know, they that pays

640
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 5: the rent. You gotta you gotta admit what they are

641
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 5: and they are full into you know, is that gonna

642
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 5: be good enough to beat whatever team in January? I

643
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 5: don't know. I mean, whatever I say is a guest.

644
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 5: Whatever you say is a guess. Whatever anybody says, it's

645
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,719
Speaker 5: a guest. So you know, enjoy yourself, but don't take

646
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 5: yourself too seriously, you know, with all of these projection projections,

647
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 5: and uh, because you know, two weeks from now things

648
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 5: could be considerably better or a whole heck of a

649
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 5: lot worse, and so you just kind of have to

650
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 5: wait and see it unfold.

651
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 4: So in order to get to five in two, I

652
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 4: very much believe we were talking about this in the

653
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 4: first segment, it's got to be somewhat of a picket game.

654
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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think they're going to run for

655
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Speaker 4: one hundred and seventy yards on the Jags. I mean,

656
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 4: Kenny's gonna have to make throws. He's gonna have to

657
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Speaker 4: consistently move the football, and he doesn't have to be

658
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 4: in his prime Banner Mahomes and it doesn't have to

659
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 4: be a dual at noon in the old at the

660
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Speaker 4: OK Corral with Lawrence, but he needs to play at

661
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 4: a pretty high level. Do you think he has that

662
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 4: in him right now?

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Speaker 5: Well, for a whole game and not.

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Speaker 4: Just a fourth quarter, You're right?

665
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Speaker 3: Can they just how about this? Here's an idea, Bob,

666
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 3: can they just put the fourth quarter sign up? It's

667
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 3: starting in the first quarter, just put the fourth quarter

668
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Speaker 3: up on the score.

669
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Speaker 2: But he's at home. We should be able to do that.

670
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Speaker 5: Right, I'll take the second.

671
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 4: Half that baby sit.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that, you know, but it all has

673
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 5: to it all has to work together. I mean they

674
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 5: you know what, I thought one of the things that

675
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 5: Picket was doing well, you know against the Rams, standing

676
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 5: in there and delivering the football, always feeling out or

677
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 5: circling out or you know that kind of stuff. And

678
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 5: sometimes that's what you have to do. Now, you know,

679
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 5: you want him certainly this week, you know, and I'm

680
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 5: not downplaying the Jaguars defensive front, but they don't have

681
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 5: Aaron Donald, so there's that. But you need to make

682
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 5: him feel, you know, a little bit comfortable in the pocket.

683
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 5: And you know, the two guys that a lot of

684
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 5: Steelers fans wanted thrown in jail or something for home.

685
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 5: I can't. They canned last we go, but they need

686
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 5: they need to win some matchups. And you know, yes,

687
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 5: I think you're gonna have some opportunities against Jacksonville's defense,

688
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 5: and you're gonna need them because I don't you know

689
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 5: this isn't another I don't believe this is a seventeen

690
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 5: thirteen game. I don't right, So and you know the

691
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 5: other I'll tell you what. I keep looking. I keep

692
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 5: waiting for Minca. I keep waiting. It's gonna happen. Is

693
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 5: gonna happen? He is just playing too well. He didn't

694
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 5: have any takeaways or anything last week, but he was everywhere.

695
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 5: I mean, and so I think that the the Joey

696
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 5: Porter Jr. As he you know, he played a lot

697
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 5: of snaps last week. People, you know, when is he

698
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 5: gonna start? And you know, I mean the guy played He.

699
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 3: Played as many snaps as Alex high Smith. Nobody's st

700
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 3: saying Alex didn't play enough last week, had the same

701
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 3: number of played.

702
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 5: Okay, so we're on the same pace there. But I

703
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 5: mean that also is gonna allow Packing Peterson more, you know,

704
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 5: slot corner, whatever he's they had playing for him in

705
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 5: the middle of the field, lincod in the middle of

706
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 5: the field. So you know, I think that this defense

707
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 5: has opportunities now to transform the pressure that it's been

708
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 5: getting in some takeaways and so uh yeah, I I

709
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 5: you know here you guys are talking to me out

710
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 5: a living in my Jacksonville is good. Jacksonville is good.

711
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 4: They are there.

712
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 5: I don't I don't think that. You know, the history

713
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 5: of this rivalry is you don't think Jacksonville is good,

714
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 5: and before you know it, you lost. You know, Bill

715
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 5: Cower was eight and keen against Jacksonville. Yeah, So, I mean,

716
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 5: this is not a This is not a Mike Plommins

717
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 5: record is five and four. This isn't some you know.

718
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 5: I get it that, you know, the playoff games. Everybody

719
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 5: remembers those and those things more, and I get all

720
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 5: of that. But this, this this matchup has been miserable

721
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 5: for the Steelers since it began.

722
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 3: From day one nineteen ninety six season.

723
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 5: Yes, I mean the Steelers lost to Jacksonville. But the

724
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 5: team that won the AFC, the AFC Championship in nineteen

725
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 5: ninety five went down to Jacksonville and got beat beat.

726
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 5: That was not luck, That was not the officials. That

727
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 5: was that was going to go down there and getting beat.

728
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 5: They went back the next year and got beat in

729
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 5: the opener. So this has not been a pleasant matchup

730
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 5: for the Steelers, and I don't think it's going to

731
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 5: be a whole lot of fun on Sunday either. Uh,

732
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 5: you know, we'll see what happens. So in terms of

733
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 5: on the.

734
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 4: Scoreboard, so in terms of Steelers history, I always go

735
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 4: to you and is it just a strange anomaly that

736
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 4: the road team has been so successful in this I

737
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 4: mean five in a row the road teams won. Eleven

738
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 4: to last thirteen the road teams won, And I have

739
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 4: no reason why, just.

740
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 5: A fluke you talking about Steelers Jacks.

741
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 4: Well, Steeers Jags.

742
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean again, I'm old. I mean it

743
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 5: took when this series started in ninety five. I mean,

744
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 5: there was no winning in Jacksonville.

745
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 4: They weren't they team either, Well, they were specifically built, yes.

746
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 5: No, exactly, that was Coughlin's. That was Coughlin's blueprints. So yes,

747
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 5: maybe that is why you know this this series has

748
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 5: been such a difficult one from the very beginning for

749
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 5: this team because that was that was Coughlin's That's what

750
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 5: he did. That's that was his plan, that was his

751
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 5: everything about it was beat the Steelers down to you know,

752
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 5: a lot of the personnel moves that they were making,

753
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 5: you know, well right, and I mean and that was

754
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 5: not the only one, you know, there was there was

755
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 5: a There was a time when I really think that

756
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 5: the claiming a guy off another team's practice squad, you

757
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 5: got to keep them three weeks on your active roster.

758
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 5: Tom Coughlin move, he was famous for doing that, uh,

759
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 5: picking up Steelers guys, keeping them on the practice squad,

760
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 5: his own practice squad for just a short time. We

761
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 5: played them that beat us. Well, the guy got cut so.

762
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 4: Out of him as possible.

763
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 5: What I'm saying that this was Tom Cofflin's motto, his

764
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 5: blue print is. I mean he was and he was

765
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 5: actively working towards fulfilling that. So yeah, this one was

766
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 5: never I don't.

767
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 2: I think we just lost Bob again.

768
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,919
Speaker 4: Well we're not going to call him back this time.

769
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 4: Welcome anyway.

770
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think maybe that was somebody telling us that

771
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 3: it was time for Bob to go. But unfortunately, I

772
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 3: guess Bob is Uh, he's gone now, so we're gonna

773
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775
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795
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Speaker 4: between our two homes. Have a lovely time.

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Speaker 3: Matt Jordan Reid did his twenty twenty four latest mock.

799
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Speaker 4: On Yeah Yeah, Yeah and I actually listened to the

800
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 4: podcast with Jordan Reed and Matt Miller on it taught

801
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 4: going through the this BNK I thought was pretty interesting.

802
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Speaker 3: I got to tell you, I love the latest updated

803
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 3: pick here for the Steelers. He hasn't picking it twenty

804
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 3: one because that's the spot that they're in right now.

805
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, those guys don't pick where they're at. This is

806
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 4: just how things things are right now, exactly.

807
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 3: H And he has the Steelers taking Cooper de Jon

808
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,439
Speaker 3: the safety cornerback combo from Iowa, Iowa.

809
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Speaker 2: Yeah, love the love the player at the pick.

810
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 3: Yes, you pair him with Mika Fitzpatrick. He could play

811
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 3: the slot for you. Can do a little bit of

812
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 3: everything for you. This is what we were looking for

813
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 3: last year with Brian Branch.

814
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Speaker 4: Yeah. I can even play some outside corner from what

815
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Speaker 4: I understand, like I maybe a lot like I mean

816
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 4: not the Branch wasn't but a similar to Minka as

817
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 4: a Crimson Tide member. I mean like they he's big.

818
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 4: He's over six feet. I think he's over two hundred pounds.

819
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 3: Seven interceptions the last two years.

820
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Speaker 2: He gets mars the football. Yeah, that would be an

821
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 2: ideal pick.

822
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 4: Yes, I mean he could again big slot, maybe an

823
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 4: outside corner, safety, just a defensive back.

824
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 3: Put him in the mix in the back and figure

825
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 3: it out, like what they wanted to do, what they've

826
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 3: wanted to do with Patrick Peterson this year. Move him

827
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 3: around to different spots and be able to do stuff.

828
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 4: If this kid's twenty yeah or whatever. Super athletic, super athletic.

829
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

830
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Speaker 4: I have no idea if he'll get to wear the

831
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 4: Steelers pick. I have no idea where the Steelers all pick.

832
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 3: But that's he does play the position, the right position.

833
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 3: If teams view him as a safety well instead of

834
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 3: a corner.

835
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 2: That helps a lot.

836
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 4: And I bet there will be mixed opinions from what

837
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 4: I know. You know, someone will say, ah, he's not

838
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 4: a corner for us, or depends what scheme we play,

839
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 4: or something like that. Listening to Reed and Miller on

840
00:39:55,080 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 4: the podcast, both of them are saying, this corner class

841
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 4: isn't great, you know. I mean, it's nothing like last year.

842
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 3: Last year there was, but he's not going to be

843
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 3: a guy that goes top ten.

844
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:06,720
Speaker 2: Probably.

845
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 4: That's what I was going to say too, Like, I mean,

846
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 4: like kool aid from Alabama and there's a couple of

847
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 4: these dudes that are highly touted coming to the year.

848
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 4: No one's like lit the world on fire, Like, there

849
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Speaker 4: probably won't be a top five, ten or five, six,

850
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 4: seven pick overall at corner from what I understand again,

851
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Speaker 4: I'm on like step two of you know, any kind of.

852
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Speaker 2: I've just been watching games.

853
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was a tough watch right now, I understand.

854
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 4: That mostly, but watch.

855
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 3: No, that's a guy to keep an eye on.

856
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Absolutely, that's a I would take it right now probably.

857
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 3: Oh he could come play for the Steelers right now.

858
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 4: H yeah, right now, just where the black and gold is,

859
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 4: keep it on, don't even change uniforms, like James Daniels,

860
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 4: be a real good fit.

861
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like it. So that one caught my eye.

862
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, so the team needs that. He lists

863
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 3: there for the Steelers, and I don't disagree with these either. Cornerback, safety, center.

864
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 4: Yes, I think there's a top three right now.

865
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're not going to take a center in

866
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Speaker 3: the first round.

867
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Speaker 4: There's not a penalty, from understand but.

868
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 3: A cornerbacker safety, now I'm on board.

869
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would bet. I think we even said this

870
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 4: before the season started, that I would I would bet

871
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 4: their first round picks a defensive back. Yeah, maybe the

872
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 4: second round or is a center. I know our Betty

873
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,919
Speaker 4: Wes Yuler loves the dude at West West Virginia. Of course,

874
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 4: the homework I've done on him is impressive. George's got

875
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 4: a guy, you know. So, No, that would be a

876
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 4: nice way to go. It doesn't mean if to push

877
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 4: Mason Cole at the door. He can hang and hang

878
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 4: around by your groom. A guy and defensive back would

879
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Speaker 4: fit in any which way or you know, Nickel dime

880
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 4: starter or whatever. But no, that makes a lot of

881
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 4: sense to me.

882
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that would make that would fill a

883
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 3: guy like that, a guy who's capable of playing multiple

884
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 3: That's one of the things we loved about Branch is

885
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 3: that he could fill multiple spots for Yeah.

886
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, and imagine what he'd learned from Menca and right, yeah,

887
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 4: I mean, who knows if Peterson still here or whatever,

888
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 4: but I mean Minca will be and hey, this is

889
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 4: how I came in the league, Sonny boy.

890
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 5: Right.

891
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 3: In fact, that's my early front runner. I don't even

892
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 3: know where this Deelers are going to pick at in

893
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 3: the first round, but he's my early front runner for

894
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 3: the Steelers.

895
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 4: As soon as I saw it too. I think you

896
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 4: texted it to me, but I had seen it earlier

897
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 4: and I was like, oh, that just screams at you, like,

898
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 4: I mean, it just adds up. I mean, player, team fit.

899
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 4: Whether I was a Steeler dude or not, it'd be like,

900
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 4: that's the perfect marriage.

901
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly what the Steelers look for.

902
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 3: Physical, takes the ball away, everything like that.

903
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

904
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that.

905
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: Would be a good one. But we've still got a

906
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 2: lot of football to play here before we.

907
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 3: Get to that point. Yeah, I just.

908
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: I understand the people.

909
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 3: And I opened We opened the show with you know,

910
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 3: the Steelers mocking the Steelers trade.

911
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,959
Speaker 2: Stuff for Petrick. We brought this up three weeks ago.

912
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know that.

913
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 3: You know whatdn't Wouldn't Certain look great in the Steeler uniform? Yeah,

914
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 3: he would the Broncos. The Broncos aren't going to be

915
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 3: They're not going to trade him.

916
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 4: I have no idea. If that you.

917
00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 3: Heard from Denver is that anybody should be a building anybody,

918
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 3: but Patrick's certain is available.

919
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 4: That's would be the smart move. I mean, keep I

920
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 4: would have like five or six no touch guys that

921
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 4: are young first contract players, and he's the top of the.

922
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 3: Twenty three years old. Ye, you're not getting corner. He's

923
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 3: still cheap.

924
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he got another year or two because of it.

925
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 4: It wouldn't make sense to me, But Tehn Payton's coming

926
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 4: in and putting his He's bizarre. He can do whatever

927
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 4: he wants. If it's possible, I would call and be interested,

928
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 4: but I would be shocked if it's possible.

929
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 3: It also makes it tough for the Steelers.

930
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm thinking into this the wrong way.

931
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 3: Maybe it's actually easier for the Steelers because they play

932
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 3: Thursday night because you're not going to trade.

933
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 4: He wouldn't play that way.

934
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 3: You're not going to trade for a guy and he's

935
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 3: gonna he's gonna sit out. He's probably not playing the

936
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 3: first week. But you get the extra couple of days. Yeah,

937
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 3: you're going to have an extra Monday practice. It's an

938
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 3: extra time.

939
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 4: Certain or not. I mean, they could trade a seventh

940
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 4: round pick for some backup whatever. He's still not going

941
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 4: to play Thursday night. You get him on Tuesday, even if.

942
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 3: Even if he got him on twod Day, he's probably

943
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 3: not playing in the next game for you anyways, wins right, Yeah, Yeah,

944
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 3: you got a fly year.

945
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 5: Yeah.

946
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 3: And then you got to take physicals and then you've

947
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 3: got to get the playbook and all that stuff. Well

948
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 3: you get the extra.

949
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's appealing. I hadn't thought of that. That's actually

950
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 4: an advantage to play Thursday night after the trade. Trade

951
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 4: deadline is definitely advantage. I hadn't thought of that. Interesting.

952
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 3: So anyways, we're gonna get to a break again. Uh.

953
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00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 3: we get to the break man, we thought we'd do

955
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 3: our little Yin's chat this week.

956
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 4: I'll get it wrong.

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00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,439
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961
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 3: can see the Steelers. Maybe select All right.

962
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:47,319
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00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,560
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Speaker 3: football by Kenny Pickett. Today's question, Matt, see if you

966
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 3: get this one right. Chad Brown or Kept Green? Which

967
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 3: player had the most sacks in a game against the Jaguars.

968
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 4: Chad Brown?

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00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm just ting you say Jaguars or Jaguars.

970
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 4: I'm sure I say it wrong and very Pittsburgh easish.

971
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 4: I'm kind of Jaguar and that kind of guy.

972
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 3: He's Jaguars, but.

973
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 4: I think so too, because we were on that We

974
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 4: were on that sh.

975
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,919
Speaker 2: I mean hear some people say jag u Wars too.

976
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if it's Jaguars, you know. And

977
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 4: we were on that video with Rob King today and

978
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 4: he said Jaguars and it came up as very proper.

979
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 4: I'm like, that's probably how you say it.

980
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 5: I was.

981
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 4: Actually they're thinking that one.

982
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 2: He's had proper training on us.

983
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 4: He's a professional, he's a goof Like right, I say Jaguars. Okay,

984
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 4: that's better than how I say it. I know they

985
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 4: don't like Jags, but.

986
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 3: They probably really don't like jag Off's jagofs.

987
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 4: Yeah that works too.

988
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: Anyway, they can get to a break. We'll be back

989
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 2: with our.

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00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,479
Speaker 3: Two and the Fantasy Football Focus. We'll do a little

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00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 3: more update here on the who's Who's back? Some Tyree

992
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 3: Kill news. Maybe he was. We didn't know yet yesterday

993
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 3: that he hadn't practiced when we did the show. Brows

994
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 3: pretty all that good stuff, we'll get to that an

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Speaker 3: hour too.

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