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Speaker 2: This He's Talking Cowboys, live from the Dallas Cowboys World

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Speaker 4: Welcome to Talking Cowboys, presented by a Black Rifle Coffee,

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Speaker 3: We are live from the Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 4: Here in the s WBC podcast studio, I am Josh Rodriguez,

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Speaker 4: still filling in for Kyle Yeomans here with Nick Harris,

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Speaker 4: Isaiah standback, John Machoda with Christopher Beemer in the back.

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Speaker 5: This is the real live show that airboy should be watching,

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Speaker 5: not the dog on Tom Brady roast.

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Speaker 3: It's like that, Yeah, it really is.

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Speaker 4: I'm killing you for being here with you guys, seriously,

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Speaker 4: it's so.

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Speaker 3: It's great to be here.

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Speaker 6: I know you had like a plan for the show, Josh,

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Speaker 6: but we should just pivot and make off the sand

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Speaker 6: Back roast the entire you know that. Yeah, honestly, I

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Speaker 6: think you would be like you're you're pretty easy, Like.

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Speaker 4: You could take it John you first, Yeah, lay into him, man.

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Speaker 3: It's like, that's it, that's the joke that was you

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Speaker 3: watched it, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing, so good yea, Like we were just

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Speaker 1: saying before that we started doing the show right here,

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Speaker 1: like of all the live event type stuff like awards, roasts, everything,

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Speaker 1: anything that's like live TV, I'll put I'll put that

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Speaker 1: thing up against any of it. It was so it

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Speaker 1: was I mean from beginning to end. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: not for everybody. There's there's gonna be jokes in there

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Speaker 1: that people aren't gonna probably like here, I appreciate whatever,

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Speaker 1: but man, that thing was Who was the best? So

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Speaker 1: from a comic standpoint, I thought it was Nicky Glazer.

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Speaker 1: She was She she's dead. I mean, that's her business,

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Speaker 1: that's what she does. I mean, she's very good at

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Speaker 1: what she does. Now, the other people that were up there,

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Speaker 1: it's just very clear that their jokes were written by

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Speaker 1: somebody professionally, but you still have to deliver them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But I honestly, to me, it's not even about the best.

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Speaker 1: It's that really nobody was bad. Yeah, you know they're

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Speaker 1: like I said, Ben Affleck was kind of you could

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Speaker 1: it was okay. I think they're a Patriots fan. You

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Speaker 1: probably liked it because he came at it for more

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Speaker 1: of a Patriots fan standpoint, but just you said Wes Welker.

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Speaker 1: But outside of that, like, I can't think of anybody

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was just he.

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Speaker 6: Did tweet about me and he was like, I would

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Speaker 6: have shown him to the roast, but I didn't want

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Speaker 6: to beat him for a third time or something like that.

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Speaker 3: Didn't want to roast.

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Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, if you watched the whole thing

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Speaker 1: and you were ranking jokes, that thing probably runs about

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Speaker 1: number thirty seven on the list because there was just

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Speaker 1: so much stuff that I thought I figured would be

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Speaker 1: now that's gonna be off the table. They won't be

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Speaker 1: able to say this, and man, everything everything that you

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Speaker 3: Once you signed up for a roast, you signed up

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Speaker 3: to get destroyed.

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Speaker 7: The gentleman Aaron Hernandoz joke was wow, I would.

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Speaker 1: Like that Aaron Hernandez stuff, the Alex Guerrero stuff.

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Speaker 5: I would have left all Hernanda stuff off that off limbits.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, that's not off limbs for everybody.

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Speaker 1: Even if you're just there and you're and you're a

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Speaker 1: mean Honesley. There were some really good jokes that were

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Speaker 1: directed at Dana White that I mean about the UFC selection.

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Speaker 3: Is very important on nights like that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like you need to be like in the back,

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Speaker 5: Like you don't want to be anywhere near the front

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Speaker 5: where the spotlights are at like be tucked off somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I liked Tony Hincliff. I thought that he was the best.

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Speaker 7: He was very gros like and he's a traditional he's.

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Speaker 4: A comic and everything, and he actually has a show

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Speaker 4: very well about roasting people.

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Speaker 4: And then obviously his shots at Kim Kardashian, even at

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Speaker 4: Kevin Hart and Philadelphia that was good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good stuff. Three hours.

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Speaker 7: I didn't go back and watch.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard Belichick did his thing. He did that's funny.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if it's it's not for kids.

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Speaker 1: But even with it being that, like, I just really

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Speaker 4: There's no there's not a single person you take off.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if from a comedy standpoint, I don't think

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Speaker 1: you know they're of their connection with Tom Brady. But

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of those Gronkowski jokes made of Gronk,

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Speaker 1: And then just how it was very apparent, how he

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Speaker 1: and how like Kevin Hart's making jokes no, no, Aaron, Aaron, Aaron,

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Speaker 3: Stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: He's perfect to have up there for that, And he

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Speaker 1: was the butt of a lot of jokes there for sure.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's fair to say that this was actually like

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Speaker 4: a big week in Dallas sports. I kind of wanted

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Speaker 4: to get into MAVs and Stars. How are we feeling.

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Speaker 3: About that guys. Does that put any pressure on here

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Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys? Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Where are the cracking these days?

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Speaker 3: They're sitting at the crib. Yeah, we got a new

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Speaker 3: was never gonge hole about that coach. You know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying. From the time that.

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Speaker 7: They last year, I was not about the coach, not about.

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Speaker 3: The coach, not about the coach, about the team, not

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Speaker 5: I disliked the coach from the time that they had

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Speaker 5: their first picks to go take somebody from every roster,

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Speaker 5: and he was picking guys that were development guys. I'm like,

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Speaker 5: go grab the dog on goons like Vegas, like the

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Speaker 5: Vegas team did the year before or two years before.

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Speaker 5: He went out there, sorry, grabbing development guys when he

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Speaker 3: I was so angry from that point.

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Speaker 5: It's like picking your dodgeball team and his dude was

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Speaker 3: And Vegas took it to Game seven. If you see that.

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Speaker 5: They did just Seattle did it the year before, but

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Speaker 5: So keep going Stars.

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Speaker 3: They did at the cracking, aren't planing. I'm rocking with

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you think Marshaun Lynch would coach the crack in

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Speaker 8: That'd be amazing.

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Speaker 3: Bro, That'd be the most physical team in the history

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Speaker 3: of the NHL. I'd like to see it. It'd be entertaining.

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Speaker 3: He's part owner.

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Speaker 6: What would be fascinating? You mentioned the Kraken and the

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Speaker 6: Golden Knights. What would an expansion draft look like in

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Speaker 7: And like, yeah, protect, protect, that's what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a bean question. Yeah, I don't remember.

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Speaker 9: I can't remember I was around when the Houston Texans

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Speaker 1: I just know I could remember with NBA expansion at

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Speaker 1: I think that you could protect most guys. I think

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Speaker 1: NFL wise you probably can protect I would say seventy

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Speaker 6: It says all thirty two current teams could leave five

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Speaker 1: Yes, But what would be interesting about that is that

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Speaker 1: some good players that the team's like, yeah, we'd like

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Speaker 1: to get rid of this contract, go ahead and take

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Speaker 1: that guy, and somebody and and and that, and that

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Speaker 1: expansion team would be like, yeah, that is a lot,

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Speaker 1: but we got money to spend, and that would be

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Speaker 1: I can't believe that they didn't protect that.

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Speaker 4: Guy just trying to get out of the contractations there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's fair different.

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Speaker 1: I have a different perspective on the whole uh Rangers

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Speaker 1: stars just because I'm not from here. Yeah, But to

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Speaker 1: I grew up in Detroit. I'm still a Detroit sports fan,

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Speaker 1: but being from there and like looking at from Afar,

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Speaker 1: like no offense to the other teams around here, but

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Speaker 1: like there's nothing that they do that's gonna that has

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Speaker 1: any imprint on the Cowboys. Really, No, the Cowboys are

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Speaker 1: there's so much bigger than this area. Course, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean I can't give you an exact percentage, but

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Speaker 1: it's not like, okay, like when you come from Detroit,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's got to be in the ninety percent higher.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're a Cowboys fan, like and I'm

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Speaker 1: Yankees fan and stuff like that. I'm just saying that, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And this is coming from a perspective of like I

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Speaker 1: I just knew about it from like Afar. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, interesting, now I've been down here. I'm forty two. Now,

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Speaker 1: I've I've spent some time in the area, and really

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Speaker 3: For forty two, you're a spring chicken.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and the rest I would not have guessed that.

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Speaker 1: The rest of I appreciate it, the rest.

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Speaker 6: Of the rest of the nice roast.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the rest of the teams are having more success.

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Speaker 1: You know, they've all been to at least the conference

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Speaker 1: finals or won a championship since I've lived down here.

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Speaker 1: But the Cowboys brand is so big that it's just

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Speaker 1: it just they will always matter everything that they do,

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Speaker 1: just it just always matters. It's it's hard to compare

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Speaker 1: like Lakers Yankees, where it's that there's a lot of

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Speaker 6: Yeah, from home run derby last week is that ever

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Speaker 6: So the Reliant Home Run Derby, it's a big charity

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Speaker 7: So a really good effort.

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Speaker 5: On the mountain that I stood on a while back

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Speaker 5: And you rolled the dice there and you may improve it,

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Speaker 3: I want to see what you got.

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Speaker 5: I want to I want to see the head coach

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Speaker 5: What can you guys collectively do together to change the

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Speaker 6: I understand the sense of it completely, like I understand

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Speaker 3: It's hard to find in this leep.

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Speaker 7: That's not the case. In my eyes. I would sign Dak.

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Speaker 1: And even though the Cowboys can feel exactly like you

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Speaker 1: But that's what they're gonna They can have those beliefs,

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Speaker 1: priority if he wants to be the next highest paid

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Speaker 1: court back. I think they're just fine letting him play

440
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Speaker 1: the season out and then evaluating it at the end

441
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Speaker 1: of the year. And if they lose him, that's the

442
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Speaker 1: risks that they're willing to take. Obviously, Jerry Jones didn't

443
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Speaker 1: become as wealthy as he is without taking some major risks,

444
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Speaker 1: and so I think that that all factors in. But

445
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Speaker 1: my big thing is is just because you say something

446
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Speaker 1: like that publicly doesn't mean behind the scenes you aren't

447
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Speaker 1: kind of like, no, we want to see a little

448
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Speaker 1: bit more, because you just wouldn't say that publicly, you know, like.

449
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Speaker 4: Are you surprised at this point that it hasn't gotten.

450
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Speaker 1: Done from a Cowboys standpoint a little bit? Just because

451
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Speaker 1: of the fact of that most of the decisions they've

452
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Speaker 1: made over the last decade have been pretty conservative, And

453
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Speaker 1: I think the conservative obvious decision would be, oh, you

454
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Speaker 1: have a top ten franchise quarterback, just give him the

455
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Speaker 1: next franchise quarterback money, because hey, these guys are all

456
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Speaker 1: going to get paid whatever you pay him right now.

457
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Speaker 1: He might even be the number one highest paid quarterback.

458
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Speaker 1: That'll get taught by somebody in another year or so,

459
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Speaker 1: and before you know it, he'll be the fifth or

460
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Speaker 1: sixth highest paid. But this seems like it's there's risk

461
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Speaker 1: to it, because you know, the one I always compare

462
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Speaker 1: it to is just because I know it well, is

463
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Speaker 1: just that I don't know. There were people, and don't

464
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Speaker 1: get me wrong in Detroit that thought Stafford was the problem,

465
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Speaker 1: but I mean I never did. I was like, this

466
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Speaker 1: guy's a really good player. The organization's more of a

467
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Speaker 1: problem than Matthew Stafford is. But when they moved on

468
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Speaker 1: from him, you looked as like, well, you're getting rid

469
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Speaker 1: of a really good player, and what do you get

470
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Speaker 1: in return? And it ended up being great for the organization,

471
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Speaker 1: end up being great for obviously the Rams, And so

472
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Speaker 1: sometimes change, you know, can kind of spark something. But

473
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Speaker 1: my big thing is that you don't know who that

474
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Speaker 1: next guy is. So that's that's the problem that I

475
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Speaker 1: run into is that basically, if you're trying to put

476
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Speaker 1: it in a tiers standpoint, you could very easily go

477
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Speaker 1: from heaven, let's say, the seventh or eighth best quarterback

478
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Speaker 1: in the NFL to having the seventeenth or twenty fifth

479
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Speaker 1: best quarterback in the NFL. And how is that getting

480
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Speaker 1: you any closer? You know, the odds of you getting

481
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Speaker 1: one of those guys that are in the top six

482
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Speaker 1: or seven above him are very very unlikely. And so

483
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Speaker 1: because of that, you are you are certainly gambling.

484
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Speaker 5: I think a lot of people are underestimating the process.

485
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Speaker 5: They're underestimating development and what what the Dallas Cowboys did

486
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Speaker 5: last year, And when they did it, I was like, ooh, okay,

487
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Speaker 5: I see what they're doing by trading for Trey Lance.

488
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Speaker 5: That was a very strategic move. That was very strategic.

489
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Speaker 5: And people that didn't just walk into building ass dak,

490
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Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Like, there's there's development that

491
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Speaker 5: happens yours. There's film study, there's decision making, there's practice reps,

492
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Speaker 5: there's coaching that goes on and it makes players better

493
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Speaker 5: when they step on the field actually compete than what

494
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Speaker 5: they were when they first walked into building. And I

495
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Speaker 5: don't think that Trey Lance is getting a fair He's

496
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Speaker 5: not getting a fair opportunity. Don't the opportunity I figure,

497
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Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't really know what the word is.

498
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Speaker 5: But people aren't giving him enough respect. I think now

499
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Speaker 5: they're looking at what he's done, right, but they don't

500
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Speaker 5: take into consideration the situation that he came into. They

501
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Speaker 5: don't take into the consideration the experience that he had

502
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Speaker 5: when he came into the league, the pressures, all those things.

503
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Speaker 5: Trey Lance. Now, it's it's all to be to be seen.

504
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 5: Now that's I'm still speaking from that standpoint.

505
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Speaker 3: We haven't seen it.

506
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Speaker 5: But why doesn't Trey Lance get the same opportunities in

507
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Speaker 5: same respect that Dak did when he first came on

508
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Speaker 5: the roster?

509
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Speaker 1: Because yes, well, because in that position there is far far, far, far,

510
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 1: far far far far more missus than hits at quarterback,

511
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Speaker 1: And there's just for every guy that you're trying to

512
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Speaker 1: give time to. You're gonna get a Mitchell Trubisky, You're

513
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 1: gonna get You're gonna get Zach Wilson, there when you

514
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Speaker 1: look so many quarterbacks when you give that chance to

515
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Speaker 1: and it does not work.

516
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Speaker 5: I totally agree. And again everything's a roll of the dice. Yes,

517
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Speaker 5: everything's rolled of the dice. Every player they have no

518
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Speaker 5: control over. The player is gonna be amazing or not.

519
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Speaker 5: They can put him in the best position possible based

520
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Speaker 5: upon his his attributes and his characteristic.

521
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Speaker 3: That he has.

522
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Speaker 5: When you look at Trey, When I look at Trey Lance,

523
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Speaker 5: I look at a bigger, stronger, faster, better arm version

524
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Speaker 5: of Dah.

525
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Speaker 3: Now, no, listen, let's I'm talking about. I'm talking about

526
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Speaker 3: from attributes? Where am I wrong? Bigger, stronger. He's not

527
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Speaker 3: bigger or stronger than that at all. He's taller than

528
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Speaker 3: me being I just seen the man two weeks ago.

529
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Speaker 7: He looks good.

530
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Speaker 3: But I stood next to him deck two weeks.

531
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Speaker 5: Ago, and I'm looking up at him and I'm six

532
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Speaker 5: three two forty eight right now, Yeah, I mean, I'm telling, let.

533
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Speaker 1: Me give you another let me give you another thing.

534
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Speaker 3: He's foust. Okay, so we can argue over that he's faster, fast,

535
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Speaker 3: he has a far stronger arm in my opinion.

536
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Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, so accuracy we have to wait to see

537
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Speaker 6: that we're describing Joe Milton right now.

538
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Speaker 5: Okay, I hear you, But I'm talking about like everything

539
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 5: else could be coached and we haven't seen it. We

540
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Speaker 5: haven't had the opportunity to see it. So what I'm

541
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Speaker 5: saying is give him respect. Let's not look past him

542
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Speaker 5: as if he's not capable of stepping.

543
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Speaker 3: In and being a really good quarter. But we don't know,

544
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Speaker 3: don't We don't know. But so that's what I'm saying.

545
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Speaker 5: They have more information than we have in regards to

546
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 5: the capabilities and word Trey Lance currently is today, but

547
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Speaker 5: with those attributes at that point in time, if he

548
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Speaker 5: is willing and able, Now, how much pressure are you

549
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Speaker 5: putting on your coaching staff to develop this talented player

550
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Speaker 5: to be what you need him to be?

551
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Speaker 3: Okay?

552
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Speaker 4: More so for the fan fan asking why not pick

553
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Speaker 4: up his fifth year option, I knew the answer answer

554
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Speaker 4: to money, Yeah, exact facts.

555
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Speaker 1: We've got the other part in this whole, to prove it.

556
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Speaker 3: Proven in cap yeah, proven in preseason. You know it's

557
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 3: a prove it. I don't care. How's the main thing.

558
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Speaker 4: I just want to put that out there for those listeners.

559
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Speaker 1: And then there's one other part of this too, that

560
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Speaker 1: I don't think needs to be forgotten here. This isn't

561
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Speaker 1: Joey Harrington coming from the Matt Millan Lions, where you're

562
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Speaker 1: just like, well, they really don't know what they're doing.

563
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Speaker 1: The forty nine Ers were thrilled to take a fourth

564
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Speaker 1: round pick for him, and the forty nine ers are

565
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Speaker 1: one of, if not the best run organizations in the league.

566
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Speaker 1: You're and so that that I understand that, but I'm

567
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Speaker 1: just saying again to get a be thrilled to take

568
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Speaker 1: a fourth for him from that organization, Like, as a

569
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Speaker 1: fan of football, you have to look at that and

570
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Speaker 1: be like, hmm, that's kind of interesting. I wonder why they.

571
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Speaker 3: Would just what a seventh fl filled six six.

572
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Speaker 1: I mean, like Chicago Bears, San Francisco forty nine. How

573
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Speaker 1: organizations that we are not doing that?

574
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Speaker 3: But you're not a You're not a fit for every organization.

575
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Speaker 3: You're just not. I mean, that's just that's how to

576
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Speaker 3: I know plenty of.

577
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Speaker 5: Guys who are amazing players but did not have great

578
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Speaker 5: careers because of the systems that they fell into.

579
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Speaker 1: I hate doing this because when you do this then

580
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Speaker 1: it's like you just come off it's looking like you're

581
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: talking bad about the person with all you're trying to

582
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Speaker 1: do is just present the other side. I do think

583
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Speaker 1: Trey Lance could be a good Corvette. I'm just saying

584
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Speaker 1: that it's pretty obvious that the forty nine ers know

585
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Speaker 1: what they're doing and to give him up for as

586
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Speaker 1: little as they gave him up, and everybody in the outside,

587
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Speaker 1: if I was the league, kind of look at it

588
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Speaker 1: and be like, well.

589
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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I mean maybe every quarterback in the league

590
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 5: doesn't fit in San Francisco's offense and they're not going

591
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Speaker 5: to value them the same.

592
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Speaker 1: I don't how many quarterbacks do they move on from

593
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Speaker 1: teams that don't get the chance, so you never see

594
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Speaker 1: anything positive? Okay that go to another organization. You're just like, damn,

595
00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: where did that come from?

596
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Speaker 3: Yeah, teams aren't jumping ship with quarterbacks like billion you

597
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 3: don't let them leave. But name one.

598
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: I want to know who it is.

599
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 3: Jared Goff, Thomas Jared Goff.

600
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Speaker 1: Jared Jared Jared Goff got the Rams to a Super Bowl. Uh,

601
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Speaker 1: you know, Drew Brees had success in San Diego. It

602
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: wasn't just this creation that Sean Payton made. Uh, you know,

603
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford, he had success in Detroit, where you were like, yeah,

604
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Speaker 1: that's that's a good player. There's a reason why he

605
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: was a one to one and then he goes and

606
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Speaker 1: win Super Bowl, Like how many guys do they the

607
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: teams move on for You're just like, who knew?

608
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Speaker 3: I don't.

609
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Speaker 5: I don't disagree with you, but what I can, But

610
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Speaker 5: what I can. All players don't.

611
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Speaker 1: Fit in all skins, that's true.

612
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Speaker 5: And some coaches are not positioned to coach certain types

613
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Speaker 5: of individuals, and some coaches have less patience for certain

614
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Speaker 5: personality types and other coaches. So if you're not a

615
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Speaker 5: fit in the system, if you're not a fit for

616
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Speaker 5: the organization, you're not a fit.

617
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Speaker 3: For the coaches staff, They're gonna move on from you.

618
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Speaker 6: Shanahan did say at some point, and I don't know

619
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Speaker 6: when this happened because I only saw this clip recently,

620
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Speaker 6: but he said that he felt like he failed Trey Lance,

621
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Speaker 6: and it was it was it was tough to like

622
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Speaker 6: see that from a coach perspective, because that was the

623
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Speaker 6: guy that they invested the number three overall pick in,

624
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Speaker 6: and that was the guy that he wanted to bring

625
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Speaker 6: in and develop. And Trey Lance is a good dude

626
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Speaker 6: and I think if you have that coach player relationship

627
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Speaker 6: with Trey, he'll listen, he'll be coachable, and it's it's

628
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 6: tough to move on. So yeah, I think at the

629
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Speaker 6: end of the day, if you ask the coaching staff,

630
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Speaker 6: they probably felt like they still had a year or

631
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Speaker 6: two left with Trey to try to work it out.

632
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Speaker 6: But I think when it comes to an organizational standpoint,

633
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 6: when you see mister irrelevant pass him up, when you

634
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 6: see Sam Darnold pass him.

635
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Speaker 7: Up, it's like, all right, let's get value out of this.

636
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 6: So it's like, on one hand, I understand it, but

637
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 6: on the other hand, it's still tough for the coaching staff.

638
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 6: I don't think everybody in that building necessarily wanted him

639
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 6: out of there. And one last point, when it comes

640
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 6: to Trey having the same expectations for him are the same.

641
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 6: I guess playing field for her going into twenty twenty

642
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 6: four as you did for Dad going into twenty sixteen.

643
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Speaker 6: The only difference is Trey Lance we have seen what

644
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Speaker 6: he's put on an NFL preseason field before, at least

645
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 6: granted a year of development under the system. Who knows

646
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 6: if it works out. As to John's point, it hasn't

647
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 6: really been proven to work in the past, but we'll see.

648
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 6: I think I think there's a little bit that you

649
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 6: have to put a caveat on that with.

650
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 7: Because that was Dak's first NFL action period.

651
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 6: Like, before that preseason game, the only thing that we

652
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 6: had seen in Auxnard was Showers. What's What's what's Jamil

653
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 6: Showers looking like? He was better than Deak. So I mean,

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Speaker 6: I think once we do see it on the preseason field, yes,

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Speaker 6: but you have to also factor it in with what

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Speaker 6: he's put on.

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Speaker 1: I mean, with how little they've done this offseason and

658
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Speaker 1: obviously high draft picks being offensive lineman. You know, it's

659
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Speaker 1: hard to really get a big, great read on that.

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Speaker 1: Nobody is a bigger fan than me of watching Trey

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Speaker 1: Lance in training game. It's one of, if not the

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Speaker 1: most exciting things that we will have to look forward to,

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Speaker 1: just because we don't really know what is he going

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Speaker 1: to look like here. I mean, we can watch him

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Speaker 1: out there in that first whatever twenty minutes before practice starts,

666
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Speaker 1: that we see him thrown around during the season, but

667
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Speaker 1: to actually see him there and actually see ones of me, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because this is this is just my prediction. What I

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Speaker 1: that there's gonna be some wild plays, But then I

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Speaker 1: think that there's gonna be some like I don't know,

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Speaker 1: Like the consistency is an there all the time. And

673
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Speaker 1: that's what I really want to see during the preseason

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Speaker 1: is let him go. Because here's the air thing. Like

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Speaker 1: Dack's not gonna play in the preseason. They know what

676
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Speaker 1: they have in Cooper Rush. There's gonna be so many

677
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Speaker 1: opportunities for him to play in the preseason, and it

678
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Speaker 1: will be interesting to see what he does with those

679
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Speaker 1: opportunities because he can do things with his legs. You know,

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Speaker 4: All right, boys, So last week we didn't really get

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Speaker 4: into the later round picks, and I kind of wanted

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Speaker 4: to do that with our scout expert here. Please expert,

746
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Speaker 4: not that you haven't talked about these players enough, but

747
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Speaker 4: I really wanted to get into like the later round

748
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Speaker 4: picks more so Carson Floorinoy and Rogers. So did you

749
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Speaker 4: have any insight you wanted to give.

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Speaker 6: Us here and Talking cow Well, I'm working on a

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Speaker 6: series right now on Dallas Cowboys dot com where I've

752
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Speaker 6: been reaching out to the college position coaches of all

753
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Speaker 6: of these draft picks. I've gotten six of the eight

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Speaker 6: so far, and I'm kind of working those out throughout

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Speaker 6: the week. So yesterday was Cooper bb go back on

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Speaker 6: shouts of that article. By the way, go check that out.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, Yeah, you checked that out. There was some

758
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Speaker 6: really good insight on Cooper Bby, and I'll start with there,

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Speaker 6: even though that is not what you asked me about.

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Speaker 6: He was recruited to play defensive line initially at Kansas State,

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Speaker 6: and because of COVID and transfer portal and they were

762
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Speaker 6: flipping a new era at Kansas State with a different

763
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Speaker 6: coaching staff, he had to slide in and play a

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Speaker 6: lot of offensive line his freshman year and they are like, hey,

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Speaker 6: you're pretty good at this, and so they just kept

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Speaker 6: sliding them in and sliding them in. There's some really

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Speaker 6: good stuff in there. Go go through that article if

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Speaker 6: if you'll have the interest. But as I've been talking

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Speaker 6: to these six of the eight so far, I'm still

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Speaker 6: waiting on to Notre Dame in southeas Missouri State and

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Speaker 6: come through for me.

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Speaker 3: I'm still waiting put it out there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but I've talked with a position coach for Kayln Carson,

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Speaker 6: position coach for Nathan Thomas offensive lineman Louisiana Lafayette, and

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Speaker 6: then position coach for Justin Rodgers. And I think what

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Speaker 6: I've kind of pulled away from these three guys, and

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Speaker 6: it's something you can kind of pull away from the

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Speaker 6: entire draft classes. All of these guys had to earn

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Speaker 6: it in some way, shape or form. And not to

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Speaker 6: say that you don't have to earn it at the

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Speaker 6: college level to get to the NFL. Yes, you're gonna

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Speaker 6: have to grind at some point and you're gonna have

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Speaker 6: to earn your keep one thousand percent. You don't get

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Speaker 6: drafted by not, you know, caring for it or trying

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Speaker 6: to earn it. But you look at Ryan Florinoyd for example,

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Speaker 6: having to go to D two, then having to go

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Speaker 6: to Juco, and then having to bounce back and go

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Speaker 6: to an FCS program and come out of an FCS

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Speaker 6: program to not only be a draft prospect, but then

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Speaker 6: to get drafted.

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Speaker 7: You could look at Nathan Thomas.

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Speaker 6: He was a guy that came in and he was

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Speaker 6: primarily from a wing ta high school, had played tight end,

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Speaker 6: so he's basically an extension of the offensive tackle position

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Speaker 6: in high school, but had nothing coming out of high school.

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Speaker 6: So he stayed home, went to Lafayette and blossom there

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Speaker 6: as an offensive tackle prospect with these really great run

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Speaker 6: blocking attributes.

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Speaker 7: You look at Justin Rodgers.

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Speaker 6: Granted he was bouncing back from Kentucky whenever he hit

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Speaker 6: the portal, but whenever he got to Auburn, they were

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Speaker 6: still making him earn his spot on the field and

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Speaker 6: he was able to do that. He's got that three

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Speaker 6: hundred and twenty five pound frame that was able to

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Speaker 6: really help them in the run game, and he had

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Speaker 6: to work to be able to get onto the field,

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Speaker 6: and going into last season, he wasn't necessarily the starter.

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Speaker 6: So you look at all of these guys and there's

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Speaker 6: a little bit of a blue collar mentality with him,

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Speaker 6: and it was something that I kind of took away

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Speaker 6: from the first couple of days of the draft class too.

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Speaker 6: Tyler Geyton, you know, he had to earn his spot

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Speaker 6: on the offensive line in general whenever he got to Oklahoma,

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Speaker 6: and then to start at tackle last year, he had

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Speaker 6: to earn that. You look in the second round, that's

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Speaker 6: another small school guy in Marshawn Neeland from Western Michigan.

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Speaker 6: You got to be able to earn getting to the

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Speaker 6: second round as as a group of five prospects from

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Speaker 6: Western Michigan. And I've talked about Cooper Beebe and you

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Speaker 6: can look at Maris Luafoul as well. But I think

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Speaker 6: that's kind of something that's kind of stood out. I

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Speaker 6: think these later round picks kind of mirror what they

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Speaker 6: were probably looking for in the front round picks too.

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Speaker 6: And sure, let's compare that to past draft classes, where

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Speaker 6: there's some other guys that have come into this program

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Speaker 6: that have potentially needed to quote unquote earn it. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: look at Tyler Smith, look at de Ron Bland, quote

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Speaker 6: anybody else and so forth, So Jake Ferguson. So I

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Speaker 6: think it might have been a little bit of an

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Speaker 6: approach that this this scouting department took going into this

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Speaker 6: draft cycle just to be able to come away with

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Speaker 6: some high character guys a but also some guys that

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Speaker 6: will be able to work for what they what they

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Speaker 6: want to do.

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Speaker 3: On the field.

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Speaker 1: Rogers intrigues me because he's their last pick, seventh rounder,

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Speaker 1: but he's to me if I find him, I'm thrilled

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Speaker 1: because of all those guys they took on that final day,

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Speaker 1: he's got the best chance to come in and get

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Speaker 1: an opportunity just because they don't have much depth at

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Speaker 1: all defensive tackle. So uh for being a guy it's

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Speaker 1: a seventh round pick. If I was him, man, I'd

843
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Speaker 1: be thrilled about this opportunity because he could get he

844
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Speaker 1: could get some decent snaps week one immediately. As long

845
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Speaker 1: as he shows that, you know, we can go out

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Speaker 1: there and uh be somewhat effective.

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Speaker 7: I mean, damn think about it.

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Speaker 6: I mean the only other one tech quote unquote on

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Speaker 6: the roster is Mazzie Smith, who's going through offseason shoulder issues.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you got Carl Davis too, but I don't

851
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Speaker 6: think you're you're feeling comfortable about starting Carl Davis unless

852
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Speaker 6: we want to flush back to Miami last year.

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Speaker 1: But no d tackle is very much like running back

854
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Speaker 1: to me where it would not surprise me if a

855
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Speaker 1: move is made, whether it's when we're out an Oxnard

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Speaker 1: or after teams cut down to fifty three, just because

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Speaker 1: I think they need they need another veteran in that

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Speaker 1: defensive tackle crew there, because I do believe that they'll

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Speaker 1: keep four. That's usually what you know for defensive tackles,

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Speaker 1: and and so I don't I don't. I don't feel

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Speaker 1: like they're finished there.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, what position do they pull from the UFL this year?

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Speaker 3: Running back?

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Speaker 5: It's going to be somebody somebody, Yeah, two for two there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, looking at the BattleHawks there, that'd be great.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 4: So another question that we had more so in the

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Speaker 4: mail bag the undrafted free agents. I know that's a

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Speaker 4: pool that you've been looking at really heavily into. Are

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Speaker 4: there any of them that stick out that intrigue you?

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Speaker 4: From the undrafted free agents that we signed?

872
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 3: Do you all have any before I before I started.

873
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: Any any so I just rode for this morning. I

874
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: ranked them all. Okay, it's least likely to make the team.

875
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 6: So could I say who my number one is? Before

876
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 6: you say what your number one is? I think my

877
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 6: number one is a Moni Johnson from what will you.

878
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 7: Say make the team? Do you mean fifty three?

879
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 3: Yeah?

880
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 6: Okay, then I probably have a different answer. But I

881
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 6: think as far as making potentially a practice squad or

882
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 6: the fifty three a Money Johnson out of Nevada one

883
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 6: hundred tackles last year, Big Long got the crazy length

884
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 6: that works in the past game across the middle of

885
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 6: the field, but probably a strong safety at the next

886
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 6: level because he steps up in the run game and

887
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 6: provides so much help in front of him.

888
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 7: I think he's going to be a really fun addition

889
00:36:58,400 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 7: to that safety room.

890
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear the phone call that they made

891
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: Brevin span Ford the tight end out of Minnesota. He's

892
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: clearly the best player, like in terms of ranking wise,

893
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: and for them to convince him to come here when

894
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 1: the tight end room already looks like it's it's pretty solid,

895
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: I'm very interested to hear what they told him. I

896
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: think he's he's got a decent chance of maybe filling

897
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: that Sean McCune roll or something like that, you know,

898
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 1: but it depends on what you get from John Stevens Junior. Obviously,

899
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: Peyton Hendershot. I think Luke spoon Maker is obviously on

900
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: the team. He's the second round pick. They're not going

901
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: to be moving on from him, you know. So outside

902
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: of Jake Ferguson, what is there a tight end? And now,

903
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: of those twelve guys, two of the players they brought

904
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: in were both tight ends, which kind of surprised me.

905
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 4: But is that more of a special teams sort of

906
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 4: situation that it could be.

907
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: But I always look at when they cut down to

908
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: fifty three, you're not keeping six tight ends. You're probably

909
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: not keep more than four, you know. So that's that's

910
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: that was really interesting to me.

911
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 5: So also has an amazing track record for developing tight ends.

912
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 5: So they they're going to keep feeding him with the opportunities.

913
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, if he likes a guy, yeah problem.

914
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: I had a big drop off of my top four.

915
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 1: So next I had Jason Johnson, the linebacker out of UCF,

916
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: just because he was a tackling machine for a couple

917
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: of years. You know, over one hundred tackles, guy, and

918
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 1: to your point, that is special teams all day long.

919
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: So that one made a lot of sense to me.

920
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: Plus it I think they're gonna go deeper at linebacker.

921
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: I think they keep six linebackers as the post of

922
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: five in years past. So and then the next is

923
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 1: just because of what we were talking about, the Denzel Dackson,

924
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: just because he's a defensive tackle at Illinois. They need

925
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: defensive tackle help. He had to be the easiest sell

926
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: when they got on the phone whatever it was, sixth

927
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: seventh round, like no, no, no, no, yeah, you want

928
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: you want to be here? So he was the next.

929
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 6: Quick note about Denzel DACKX And he's a native of

930
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 6: the of the Bahamas. He didn't move to the US

931
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 6: until he was sixteen, didn't start playing football until the

932
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 6: senior year of high school, ended up landing at the

933
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 6: University of Illinois and was a really good run defender

934
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 6: for them last year. And if you look in their

935
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 6: draft class, they had a three tech that went in

936
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 6: the second round of the Commanders that probably could have

937
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 6: gone in the first round. So those two guys were

938
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 6: minaces in the middle of that defensive line for Illinois

939
00:38:58,920 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 6: last year.

940
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 1: And so my top group that clearly stands out to me,

941
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: So it's those three, and then my fourth would be

942
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: Nathaniel Pete, the running back out of Missouri, because he's

943
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: the only running back that they that they brought in.

944
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: So that, again I think would be an easy call.

945
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: Like to a young running back that didn't get drafted,

946
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: probably is upset thought that they should have been drafted,

947
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: Like no, no, you got a chance you could make

948
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: this team in a variety of roles. The only thing

949
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: I didn't like about him is he just doesn't have

950
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: great numbers, like you know, like three three fifty rushing

951
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 1: guards in a season, four hundred yards in a season tops,

952
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: Like he hasn't had like a real big He's not

953
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: like the you know, nine hundred thousand yard back that

954
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: some of these other guys were that were probably draftable,

955
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: and then it drops off for me because of the

956
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 1: next guy had was Byron Vaughn's the DNA of Baylor,

957
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: just because I don't think they really need to And

958
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: one of.

959
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 4: The attributes about Pete that you think kind of brings

960
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 4: him here to Dallas, like, what do you think they're

961
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 4: looking at?

962
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: Of course, yeah, juice.

963
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think they're just looking for a guy that

964
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 6: could potentially bring some juice to that room. And they

965
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 6: were like, Okay, that guy's been a big play machine

966
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 6: in the past, and.

967
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 7: He's worked in the return game a little bit.

968
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 6: He was more of a complimentary or he was the

969
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 6: complimentary back at Missouri, but I think maybe using him

970
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 6: in some situational receiving situations in the preseason kind of

971
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 6: see what he could bring to the NFL field. I

972
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 6: feel like it was just Hey, we need a running back.

973
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 6: That guy still on the board, let's grab him. I

974
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 6: think it was one of those situations more so.

975
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: Like Vaughan's from Baylor, intrigues me about like just where

976
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: he was ranked of the players that were left. But

977
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: when I look at edge rushers on this team, I

978
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: don't know how guys are gonna make it outside of

979
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: the you know, coming in late like that, because it

980
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: seems pretty cut and dry. Again, how many edg rushers

981
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: are you keeping? Five or six? And it's like, so

982
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: you already have Micah Parsons to Marcus Lawrence, you just

983
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: drafted Marshawn Neelan, you got Sam Williams, So that to

984
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: me is the top of the depth chart. So then

985
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: the next two you're gonna be fighting against Villiami Fajoco,

986
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 1: Chauncey Golstin. I don't know. I mean, there's probably a

987
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: few others in there. I mean, I'm not saying it's impossible,

988
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: but it just seems like that that crew might be

989
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: pretty set.

990
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, we saw it last year with Isaiah Land. Yeah, gosh,

991
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 6: you would have thought that the Cowboys dropped ceedee lamb.

992
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 6: Whenever they cut the fans.

993
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 3: Lost their mind in the preseason.

994
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 7: He did, he did.

995
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 6: He had a sack last year for the Colts, but

996
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 6: he only played like ten snaps, And it's like, why

997
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 6: are we freaking out about a guy who's only gonna

998
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 6: play ten snaps?

999
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, either here, people just fall in love with certain players.

1000
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 7: I would have been the same way if they had

1001
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 7: dropped Flip Key.

1002
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 1: So, like I understand as.

1003
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 6: The number one guy that potentially make the team, Gosh,

1004
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 6: I would probably go. I would probably go Daxon and

1005
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 6: then span Ford just because again that one tech conversation

1006
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 6: that we just had. But then span Ford I think

1007
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 6: he was I had him as the second best run

1008
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 6: blocking tight end in this draft class. I think he's

1009
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 6: got a really good feel for that and he's a

1010
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 6: red zone threat to He's gonna be a big time

1011
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 6: red zone option for Trey Lance in the in the preseason,

1012
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 6: so I think they'll see a little bit of that,

1013
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 6: and then they're gonna look at Peyton Hendershot and kind

1014
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 6: of look at what he brings versus John Stevens Junior,

1015
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 6: which both are receiving type tight ends, and I think

1016
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 6: that's where the decision comes to plays either John Stevens

1017
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 6: Junior or Peyton Hendershot. But that's just me theorizing four

1018
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 6: months out.

1019
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was way harder to do this year than

1020
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: last Last year. It was so easy to have. Like

1021
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: my number one by far was TJ Bass just because

1022
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: he was a draftable guy and it was clearly they

1023
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 1: needed help on the interior. The offensive line, like he's

1024
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: again another one that that call had to be so easy,

1025
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: like you know, you can come in right away, you

1026
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: got a good chance to make this roster, you'll probably

1027
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: even play as a rookie, and if you're an undrafted

1028
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: guy getting that opportunity, I'm sure that that was probably

1029
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 1: an easy person to convince. But one point on that

1030
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: when the draft ended, Stephen Jones did say they had

1031
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: ten guys, well he's had a round ten guys left,

1032
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: so we'll say nine or ten that were on their

1033
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: board still that they were going to try and sign

1034
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: as undrafted rookie free agents. And so a group of

1035
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: us I think you were on the call last week.

1036
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: We got a chance to talk to Will McClay last

1037
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: Wednesday on a conference call with Beat writers and he

1038
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: said that they were able to sign I think he

1039
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: said about half, So I'm thinking four or five of

1040
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: those guys. So there were probably four or five guys

1041
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: that they really that they probably wanted that were on

1042
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: their draft board that and elsewhere.

1043
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 6: But at least one of them is John Trey Hunter

1044
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 6: or the linebacker from Georgia State that went to the Patriots.

1045
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 6: Those are back and forth there with him, but he

1046
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 6: decided to go to New England instead.

1047
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 4: Well, I did have a question more so far, Isaiah.

1048
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 4: I know you had to explain basically the new kickoff

1049
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 4: rules to the XFL whenever that started to happen with them,

1050
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 4: whenever the XFL is basically kicked off.

1051
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 3: And now that we're implementing new.

1052
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 4: Kickoff rules here, does the personnel on special teams change?

1053
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,479
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, drastically in what ways?

1054
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 5: You're gonna have a lot more tight end slash linebacker

1055
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 5: DN type guys out there simply because of the fact

1056
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 5: you're standing five yards away from your opponent and once

1057
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 5: that receiver and once that returner touches the ball, you're

1058
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 5: now engaging five yards apart. There is no longer a

1059
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 5: speed element on the coverage side of it. Now you

1060
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 5: need size, and you need size to be able to

1061
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 5: move guys in the direction in which you want to

1062
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 5: move them. So you know you're looking at more, you know,

1063
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 5: two hundred and fifty pound range guys that are gonna

1064
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,439
Speaker 5: beneficial to you because you can actually drop your butt,

1065
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,959
Speaker 5: get leveraged, you know, and shift guys to one side

1066
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,919
Speaker 5: and then let your let your returner do the work.

1067
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 3: Maybe another reason why the tight end room is kind

1068
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 3: of filling up there a little thicker.

1069
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, the more the more you can do

1070
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 5: in that regard the now less d defensive backs. Typically

1071
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 5: you get a lot of defensive backs when it comes

1072
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 5: down to special teams in terms of your coverage anywhere,

1073
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 5: you're ranging guys anywhere from what we call each side

1074
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 5: of the kicker, you know, so you start L on

1075
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 5: the left side, it starts with L five on the

1076
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 5: right stars sorry, R five, and then it goes all

1077
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 5: the way out.

1078
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 3: Usually the guys that are.

1079
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 5: More internal there are five to you know, R five,

1080
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 5: L four L five L four R four. Those guys

1081
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 5: usually your penetrators what we call them. Those are the

1082
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 5: guys that are usually running down the field and being

1083
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 5: physical and hitting the wedge or whatever it might be.

1084
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 5: Now that's not gonna be the case. Now you're looking

1085
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 5: at more physical all the way across the board, and

1086
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 5: you might have a handful of defensive backs that are

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Speaker 5: sitting on the outside just in case they have to

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Speaker 5: run somebody down. But you're gonna have a lot larger

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Speaker 5: guys now. So linebackers, DNS, tight ends, those guys are

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Speaker 5: gonna be valued much more in that regard of the game,

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Speaker 5: more Sam Williams specialty more.

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Speaker 1: So, you think it'll be more of those guys and

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Speaker 1: then less of corners and possibly like fifth six receivers.

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Speaker 5: So it's gonna be harder for those guys to make

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Speaker 5: rosters interesting. Now we're talking about one part of the

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Speaker 5: special teams. Yeah, we're just talking about kickoff, right, So

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Speaker 5: that's not gonna it's not gonna completely change how how

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Speaker 5: the guys.

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Speaker 3: Are selected out there on kickoffs. Then Justin Fields can

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Speaker 3: definitely be out there as a returner.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what the Steelers are talking about.

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Speaker 3: That's definitely out there. I mean you talk I was.

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Speaker 5: I came in and it was a returner for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: I hadn't done returning my whole life. I played quarterback

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Speaker 5: my whole life, and then first opportunity I get in

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Speaker 5: the league is as a return man. So if you can,

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Speaker 5: if you can use your legs and make plays and

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Speaker 5: have the threat of being able to throw it, that's

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Speaker 5: always that's always.

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Speaker 4: Something I think as far as literals go, I think

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Speaker 4: that's going to change.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you might get one of those a

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Speaker 5: year two at most, So I mean that's always always a.

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Speaker 4: Threat, but especially always looking for a way to make

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Speaker 4: those plays.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely man, But it's all about who can make one

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Speaker 5: guy miss, because that's all this is. This return game

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Speaker 5: is all gonna be by I'm making one guy miss

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Speaker 5: if everybody, If if nine of my ten guys that

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Speaker 5: are blocking for me do their job, I'm just if

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Speaker 5: I go on my blocking assignments and my return man

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Speaker 5: could make one man miss. We're in business too, just

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Speaker 5: because it's so different. It's going to be a change

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Speaker 5: from how boring things we're getting. And also just because

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Speaker 5: of like I'm not even thinking of really kick off

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Speaker 5: or the game starting. I'm thinking late in games, like

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Speaker 5: when you mentioned the fields thing. I'm thinking like situations

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Speaker 5: bringing in a player that you're like, wow, I can't

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Speaker 5: believe it now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that that'll happen necessarily that much with

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys, just because if Cavante Turpin's healthy, I think

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Speaker 1: they really like him, you know, being a guy with

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Speaker 1: the ball in hand. But maybe a CD Lamb or

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Speaker 1: something like that that in a certain situation where you're

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Speaker 1: like we need this, yeah, you know, like and not

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Speaker 1: just the Cowboys, I mean any team where like a

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Speaker 1: team you're preparing for. You're just like, well, you know what,

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Speaker 1: we better prepare for this guy potentially being back there.

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Speaker 1: I know he hasn't typically done it, but late in

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Speaker 1: the game if they really need a big play, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's like a minute to go or two minutes ago

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Speaker 1: in a game or something like that. There could some

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Speaker 1: opportunities for some players that you typically don't see back there,

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Speaker 1: you know, returning.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the return I'm less intrigued about who the returners

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Speaker 5: would be. I'm more intrigued about who are going to

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Speaker 5: be the blockers. I'm really interested in who what teams

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Speaker 5: are going to put out there in terms of personnel,

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Speaker 5: because you're gonna need big, physical guys. Yeah, you're you're

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Speaker 5: five years away from me. I mean we're engaging almost immediately. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, You're gonna make the first move,

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Speaker 5: and I'm reacting off of you. I have a direction

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Speaker 5: in which I want to block you. If I'm more

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00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 5: physically imposing than you are, chances are if I have

1155
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Speaker 5: their proper leverage, I'm going to win. So if i'm

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Speaker 5: too sixty and you're two forty.

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Speaker 1: And the other factor, all this too, just from having

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Speaker 1: covered several different you know, special teams coordinators. You got

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Speaker 1: a wild one here, like you got one that will

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Speaker 1: try wild things and you know, sometimes it works, sometimes

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Speaker 1: it doesn't. But you know, John Fossil is not shy

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Speaker 1: about doing things that are outside the box to try

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Speaker 1: and find a way that something can work. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's the reason he's been doing this.

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Speaker 5: This is the this is the guy you want to

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Speaker 5: play for when when this rule gets instilled. This is

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Speaker 5: exactly where you want to be as a team for sure.

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Speaker 4: All right, boys, let's take our final break. We'll get

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Speaker 4: to your questions after this. Actually in the third segment,

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Speaker 2: To Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Boys. Do you have your oats today? I know, John,

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Speaker 3: I will not ask you that, but I did not. Actually,

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Speaker 3: my daughter. I looked at my daughter yesterday.

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Speaker 5: She likes to come home and have something to eat

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Speaker 5: because I think their lunch time is like at ten

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Speaker 5: o'clock in the morning. It's ridiculous. So they go the

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Speaker 5: rest of the day without eating anything except for exnent.

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Speaker 5: And she comes home and she has the biggest bowl

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Speaker 5: of oatmeal and I'm like, yo, how many bags of

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Speaker 5: Quaker oats did you put in there?

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Speaker 3: And she looks at me, she's like three, And I'm like,

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Speaker 3: did you did you dope for that?

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Speaker 5: She's raising My daughter's Type one diabetic. So I'm like, hey,

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Speaker 5: I'm using that on the show tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: We wanted to get into some fan questions. We got

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Speaker 4: the text line open again. The number is eight one

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Speaker 4: to seven two nine zero three two nine eight. One

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Speaker 4: of the questions we received didn't get a name, didn't get.

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Speaker 3: A area code? What four to three four?

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Speaker 4: But if you don't win a game or win twelve,

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Speaker 4: I feel it was a fair Wait, so if you

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Speaker 4: don't win a game or if you win twelve, I

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Speaker 4: feel it was a failure and could care less QB

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Speaker 4: not getting us to promise Land and he has talent

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Speaker 4: to put with him.

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Speaker 7: It's just a statement, just one of those I guess.

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Speaker 6: I guess not necessarily a question four to three four

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Speaker 6: coming from Central Virginia, So super Bowl US probably.

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Speaker 1: I will say for anybody that you know that, I

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Speaker 1: think that there's a lot of people when it comes

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Speaker 1: to sports, when their team is kind of where let's

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Speaker 1: say the Cowboys are right now, where you kind of

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00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: feel like you're kind of stuck in the middle and

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Speaker 1: you need to make, yeah, make something, to make a move,

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Speaker 1: I think that a lot of people will be like, well,

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Speaker 1: just be bad for one year. I mean, you get

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Speaker 1: the high draft pick or whatever like that. This team,

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Speaker 1: this team has got too much talent for it ever

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Speaker 1: be one of those bottom two or three teams. It

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Speaker 1: just it won't be on that level. So you're not

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Speaker 1: gonna be like, if they have a really bad year,

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Speaker 1: it will look like twenty twenty. And even then you

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Speaker 1: got I think they had a tenth pick before they

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Speaker 1: traded back to twelve and they took Micah that year.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, I guess, I guess you could have

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Speaker 1: that year where you're like twenty fifteen where they were

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Speaker 1: really bad when Romo got hurt, and then I'm getting

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Speaker 1: that fourth pick when they got Zeke. But this is,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's just not like the NBA, where hey,

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Speaker 1: if you're just kind of in there, it comes down

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Speaker 1: to a lottery. Maybe you get the one or maybe

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Speaker 1: you get the two pick, and you didn't really desert, Like,

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Speaker 1: I just don't see. I think there's too much talent

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Speaker 1: on this team for it to draft really any lower

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Speaker 1: than maybe eight to ten.

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Speaker 6: Here's a scenario for you, and it's because there is

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Speaker 6: too much talent that has been drafted and developed on

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Speaker 6: this team. They are already running into quote unquote Cap

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Speaker 6: Hill trying to figure out how to extend Dak Prescott,

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Speaker 6: Cite Lamb, Michael Parsons. Once those three get done, then

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Speaker 6: you gotta do Tyler Smith to Ron Bland, Jake Ferguson.

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Speaker 6: Once those are done, then you gotta I wonder if

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Speaker 6: it gets to a point to where they really just

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Speaker 6: can't afford to keep all their guys and they look

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Speaker 6: at the top of the draft. Hey, we have this

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Speaker 6: all pro piece that we can't afford. Let's trade and

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Speaker 6: try to get a higher draft pick.

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Speaker 1: Demands that they all.

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Speaker 4: Have to pay down the road though, I mean that's

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Speaker 4: like two three years from now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just being honest with that scenario. Bring

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Speaker 1: that on. That's a great problem, now, Oh yeah, that

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Speaker 1: is a great problem to happen because at least you're

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Speaker 1: drafting well enough where you feel confident that you'll get

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Speaker 1: other players that will have to step up. Because you're

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Speaker 1: just talking about right now, what if in another year

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Speaker 1: or two you find out that, oh, wow, you know what,

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Speaker 1: Tyler Gouydon is gonna be a guy that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: here for ten plus years or whatever. They you'll happily

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Speaker 1: pay that guy because he's your left tackle. And you're like, wow, hey,

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Speaker 1: I can't believe we got him at twenty they moved

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Speaker 1: back to nine.

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Speaker 3: Twenty nine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got him at twenty nine. This guy's performing

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Speaker 1: like we would have taken him in the top ten.

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Speaker 1: You'd gladly welcome that. Or if Marshawn Neelan, if he

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Speaker 1: ends up being another DeMarcus Lawrence you'd want that. That'd

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Speaker 1: be great to have, and then you have to make

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Speaker 1: those tough decisions. But that that's a great spot to

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Speaker 1: be in as far as I'm concerned.

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Speaker 4: I got another question here from Morris McCrae from Tacoma, Washington.

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Speaker 5: Stinky tanky Town, tac Town, bab ye, excuse me. Let's

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Speaker 5: call them stinks as a city, like literally stinks. You

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Speaker 5: drive up and you like you hit you in a

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Speaker 5: note or a refinery there. I think it's fascinating.

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Speaker 4: That's a good question. And granted not putting it out

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Speaker 4: there for like, we don't want this to happen. But

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Speaker 4: let's just say Decats entered Missus two or three games

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Speaker 4: and Trey Lance plays, well, oh here we go and

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Speaker 4: gets that opportunity at this position.

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Speaker 3: Does Dak get his job back? It depends on how

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Speaker 3: great he's playing.

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Speaker 6: Yes, he gets his job back. He could throw for

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Speaker 6: four hundred yards every game. He's getting his job back.

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Speaker 6: There's there's nothing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the wrong person.

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Speaker 3: Part of the year. Good question. There's a lot of

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Speaker 3: variables there.

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Speaker 7: I'm the wrong persons.

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Speaker 4: Let's say it's late in the year.

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Speaker 5: Right in the year, right before playoffs and comes out

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Speaker 5: and you just he's bawling Trey Lancers like absolutely serviceable.

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Speaker 3: Let's say it serviceable. What's the injury. There's a lot

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Speaker 3: of variables, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of It's easy to say no, Dak

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Speaker 5: gets his job back, but there's a lot of variables there.

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Speaker 7: There's a scenario where keeps the job.

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Speaker 1: I think, no question there is.

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Speaker 7: I think there's eighty percent of the scenarios right.

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Speaker 3: And I don't disagree with you. I would have said

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Speaker 3: that about somebody else. I'm just saying that took us fun.

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Speaker 1: So that's what I was, That's what I was getting

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Speaker 1: to do.

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Speaker 3: You will not.

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Speaker 1: There is nothing I hate when people don't admit when

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Speaker 1: they're wrong on, like especially in sports, and takes something.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing since I've covered the team I've been more

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Speaker 1: wrong on than Romo not getting his job back. Now

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Speaker 1: and I'm talking like, as they were winning throughout, I

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Speaker 1: was like, it doesn't matter, and there's several reasons for this,

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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff behind the scenes, the coaching staff

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Speaker 1: at that time, things like that where I was like, nah,

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Speaker 1: Rumbo's getting this thing back. I guarantee you if he's

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Speaker 1: healthy he's getting this thing back, and when he didn't,

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Speaker 1: I was like, man, I I can't believe that they

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Speaker 1: did that. That's wild like that that really surprised me.

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Speaker 1: I do think it was the right move obviously going forward,

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Speaker 1: but when that happened, I was like, that just shows you,

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Speaker 1: man that in this business, like really anything is possible,

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Speaker 1: that you you can't really rule anything out. I do

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Speaker 1: think it's highly unlikely that scenario right there, that they

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Speaker 1: would do that, But you can't sit there and say

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Speaker 1: any of them. It's like, no, no, no, that would never

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Speaker 1: happen at all.

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Speaker 4: Right, boys, that'll be it for Talking Cowboys. We will

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Speaker 4: be back next Wednesday nine. A m uh storyline is

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