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Speaker 1: we gotta get into it though. We'll talk about the

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Speaker 1: new CBA. We'll have some rapid fire fun. But man,

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Speaker 1: bit of a bomb yesterday getting dropped James Harden opting

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Speaker 2: Darl Morey. What well, Philly wasn't giving him what he wanted.

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Speaker 1: here is exactly what you said, Trey. It's like Harden

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Speaker 4: Ain't nobody better at requesting trades? That made me flash

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Speaker 4: back instantly to the light blue Houston Rockets jerseys that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Rockets are making the right move by

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Speaker 1: So who could trade for Harden? Who wants to trade

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Speaker 1: This idea of Harden opting in and forcing his way

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Speaker 1: What do you think about the embid factor of it all?

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Speaker 2: So I think I think we're gonna see a deal here.

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Speaker 1: put together an enticing trade package.

428
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that Embiid would be the goal, uh

429
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 4: for the Knicks. But the next are in a position

430
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 4: where they've got some young guys who have some reputation

431
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 4: around the league, like a Quickly or are Grimes, maybe

432
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 4: even a Barrett. Like you're saying they've also got extra

433
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 4: picks from Dallas from Detroit. That if they're able to

434
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 4: get hardened for cheap and you're not going through everything

435
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,880
Speaker 4: that you've acquired in the past couple of seasons, then yeah,

436
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 4: maybe they make that move. But I wouldn't be surprised.

437
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 4: Surprising to me if they just keep their powder dry

438
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 4: and wait for the next guy.

439
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,679
Speaker 2: Yeah they should. Yeah, Harden and Brunson is not as

440
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,880
Speaker 2: good as mix as hard in Paul Georgian Kauhi, Right,

441
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 2: I don't think, but you.

442
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 1: Think Darryl Mory is absolutely calling every team you know

443
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: last night today and saying, what's your best hard and

444
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 1: package you can put together? Again? He is a good

445
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,120
Speaker 1: player still. This guy led the league in assists. He's

446
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 1: twenty one and ten. He plays a ton, He had big,

447
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 1: big moments in the playoffs. He had his classic stinkers

448
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, of course, but he has solid He's

449
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 1: still an all star level guy, and he's an expiring

450
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 1: deal like there are. I think there could be a

451
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 1: surprise team here with the way Moriy will call every

452
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: team and someone will be like, sure, we'll take it,

453
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 1: you know, a one year stab at this as long

454
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 1: as we're not giving up like the Future Forum, why not.

455
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: I think there will be a squad because if even

456
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 1: if it goes I guess poorly or whatever, like it's expiring,

457
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 1: you don't need to resign him. You're not gonna be

458
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,120
Speaker 1: doing an extension like you said you can't. So that's

459
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Speaker 1: what Morey's doing here. Yeah, today he's calling every single team,

460
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: can you do better than Terrence Man, Marcus Morris and

461
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 1: you know a pick or whatever the Clippers are trying

462
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: to dangle at me.

463
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 4: I guess Tyler Hero is in the mix as usual

464
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 4: as well for the Miami Heat. So there are players

465
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 4: out there that are better than Terrence Man and Tyler Hero.

466
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 4: If some team wants to come over the top, I'm

467
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 4: seeing people suggest perhaps Zach Levine from the Chicago Balls,

468
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,719
Speaker 4: a young guy next to Embiid, would fit really nicely

469
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 4: alongside him. And that's a couple of teams that have

470
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 4: been in trade talks definitely in the past.

471
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

472
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 4: I don't know. No, I wouldn't totally be against it.

473
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 4: You know, I'd be ordering me a hard and thirteen

474
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 4: jersey like an absolute clown.

475
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the ball, the NSTY guys or we

476
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 1: just wait at this point until he gets traded.

477
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 2: Well, it's got to be a team that's on the

478
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 2: prespass of winning, right. I don't think it's a Bulls team.

479
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 2: I think it's got to be a team that's right there.

480
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 2: If you're getting a guy who's gonna be thirty four

481
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 2: next season and bounces around a lot and is going

482
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Speaker 2: to request a trade from your team, potentially, I am

483
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 2: other than the Clippers, the Heat definitely makes sense. I

484
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 2: am curious what they would be willing to offer because

485
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,199
Speaker 2: it seemed like the deal for Bradley Beal that they

486
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 2: had on the table was a couple players and a

487
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 2: couple picks, whether it was Lowie Robinson, Hero Robinson in

488
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 2: a couple first round picks. Now, that's Bell under contract

489
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 2: for a long time. This is hard for one year potentially,

490
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 2: But a guy that doesn't doesn't really fit Heat culture.

491
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 2: But would they be willing to play with him to

492
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 2: get him a ring? I don't know. I don't think

493
00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 2: there's that many suitors. Really.

494
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: Okay, well, let's talk about the Bulls a little bit more.

495
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 1: The Bulls in center Nikolovucevich agreed to a contract extension.

496
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: Franchise announced this on Wednesday, three years, sixty million dollars

497
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: TK Vucci Baby staying with the Bulls for now.

498
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 4: There we go.

499
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on this? Some people were very

500
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: upset what they're running it back Vouch for twenty million?

501
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? And others are saying, well, what

502
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: else were they going to do? What camp are you in?

503
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 4: What else were they going to do? And also who

504
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 4: are they bidding against? So it's kind of both. But

505
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 4: I mean twenty million dollars a year for a starting

506
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 4: center that ain't crazy, And like you're saying, Booch is

507
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 4: still tradeable. They retained the salary slot and if they

508
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 4: weren't going to bring back Vouch and they had to

509
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 4: go bargain basement shopping, you're talking about Christian Wood or

510
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 4: plumb Lee or the promising Dwight Powell. You're downgrading. Absolutely.

511
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 4: I don't necessarily love that the last year the deal

512
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 4: is fully guaranteed. Would have been fine if that was

513
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 4: a team option or a partial guaranteed there but the

514
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 4: bull can still make moves, which is fine. There are

515
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 4: ways that they can improve the team and change the team,

516
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 4: like we're talking about this hardened thing trading Levine would

517
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 4: basically be a salary dump and you're resetting the books

518
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 4: for the twenty twenty four summer. But I don't know.

519
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 4: I thought John Hollinger was kind of right on things.

520
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, this looks like a crazy deal. It's

521
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 4: a high price, but it doesn't really limit the Bulls

522
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 4: optionality wise, So fine by me. And you know, I'll

523
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 4: just be tearing my hair out watching this guy for

524
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 4: the next three season.

525
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 2: Baby.

526
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 1: And some people were wondering, you slipped it in there.

527
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: Why did they do this? Why wouldn't they just wait

528
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: to free agency and see if vouch could be retained

529
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: for less, Like what was the market for this guy?

530
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 1: The counter to that is he is immediately tradable on

531
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 1: the extension. He wouldn't have been as a free agent.

532
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, there is that possibility because Vucevic's contract, it

533
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: can be traded in July because, unlike most extensions, his

534
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 1: salary did not increase by more than five percent. That's

535
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 1: a little loophole there. What did you think about the

536
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: Bulls keeping.

537
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: Maybe hanging around the Denver Nuggets during the finals rubbed

538
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 2: off on him. Maybe he's gonna be a championship type

539
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 2: player for who type player bringing the attitude it takes

540
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 2: to win in this league. Well, it's an average salary

541
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 2: for a starting center, so okay, yeah, that's fine. Either

542
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 2: can trade him. Okay, that's totally fine. He played all

543
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 2: eighty two games last year.

544
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 1: Wow, what were they even gonna get Let's say he

545
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: goes who you're You're not gonna probably have enough. I

546
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 1: don't think you would have had enough for book Lopez.

547
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 2: Uh.

548
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: And then what it's like Mayson.

549
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 4: Plumles, would Mason Plumlee, White Powell and I mean Perle

550
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 4: I guess is like he's sort of sort of available

551
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 4: but maybe not probably would be just as expensive as Booch.

552
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 4: So it's fine, it's just fine.

553
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fine.

554
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 4: The nic of contracts, it's fine.

555
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it could turn into somebody else because it

556
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 2: is tradable, because they made the right move of making

557
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 2: it happen right now before July first, So it's it's willing.

558
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 2: They were willing to sign it for him to play there,

559
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 2: but they're also willing to include him in a package.

560
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: So what's next for this team?

561
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 2: Big fine?

562
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: Obviously, DeRozan has one year, twenty nine million dollars left Levine.

563
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: He's on his long term deal four years, one hundred

564
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: and seventy eight million. Are we are they going to

565
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: just go hey, one more time, one more time, booj

566
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: Zach Levine, tomorrow DeRozan. Let's we got a great trio here.

567
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 4: We have three all stars. Yeah, yeah, that's what they're

568
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 4: gonna do. They're gonna run it back. They don't have to.

569
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 4: What they should do is trade tomort de Rosen. This

570
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 4: has been our tourist cornership is best move. Bringing in

571
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 4: this guy like you're saying, he's now eligible for an extension,

572
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 4: his contract is expiring. You can double down on this

573
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 4: being your best move by rehabilitating DeRozan's trade value across

574
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 4: the league, getting two great seasons out of him, and

575
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 4: then bringing back some assets that were lost in the

576
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 4: Vucevich trade. So I would continue to gauge the market

577
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 4: on Levine. A trade doesn't totally seem likely right now.

578
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 4: There are just better players available. I would be looking

579
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 4: to move to Rosen, and then of course fielding offers

580
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 4: for Caruso, like he might get a first round pick back.

581
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 4: He's that good of a perimeter defender. A team might

582
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 4: be interested in Vouch come the trade deadline. I think

583
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 4: we just need a big to kind of help there.

584
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 4: But more than likely they're just going to sign Ioudsumu,

585
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 4: Kobe White and then try and find another point guard

586
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 4: out there and George Niang George Nieing might be a bloomin.

587
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 4: They need some shooting man.

588
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you would like your team to like basically

589
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: start over if you could. In a perfect world, you

590
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: would be one of the worst teams sort of in

591
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: the league.

592
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 4: In a perfect world, we'd have time travel and we'd

593
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,959
Speaker 4: go back to twenty seventeen and not trade Jimmy Butler.

594
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 4: That would be in a perfect world. But I don't

595
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 4: love the idea of just running it back with this

596
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 4: exact same big three. It's just not very inspiring.

597
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: Well, especially like you said, if they retain those free agents,

598
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: I owe Kobe Patrick Beverley, Like they're coming close to

599
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: the luxury tax for a team that was under five

600
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: hundred if they are just this squad here and there's

601
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: the unfortunate Nolonzo Ball and he's gonna miss the entire

602
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: season and all that. But that's a lot of money

603
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: to pay for a team that can't even get to

604
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: five hundred. That's brutal. So we'll see, we'll see what

605
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: the uh the trade market is for any of those guys,

606
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: all three of those guys, because like we said, Bouchie

607
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: could be moved.

608
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 2: Would you have liked this move better just letting Vouch

609
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 2: go and potentially trading Caruso and Pat Williams that I

610
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 2: threw out there for DeAndre basically another version of Nikolovucevic,

611
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 2: the other non screen setter flipper.

612
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 4: It's a no for me.

613
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, just not a DeAndre Ayton fan.

614
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, I mean if there, if they had

615
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 4: picks they could include as well, then yeah, but I

616
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 4: think you can do better than just eighting for those guys.

617
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 2: We'll see. Yeah. Yeah, if there's Cruso's I assume it's

618
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 2: going to be dealt at some point because he was

619
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 2: in rumors last year. But this is a wait and see.

620
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 2: They have they just kept their options open, really, but

621
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 2: if they run it back, that would be disappointing to

622
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: see the bulls just do same same thing.

623
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: I like how you're always saying the bulls are back.

624
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: Now it's just the bulls are running it back.

625
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 4: Bulls are running it back. It's the running it back

626
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 4: of the bulls.

627
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: That's right.

628
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 4: You mentioned it earlier, though, Tess brook Lopez. He's better

629
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 4: than Vichovic absolutely, so he should get more than three

630
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 4: years sixty million dollars, which is expensive for the Milwaukee Bucks.

631
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 4: But they got to bring him back. They cannot let

632
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 4: brook Lopez just walk. They won't be able to replace

633
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 4: him very easily. And we saw how much of a

634
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 4: difference Brooke made to their defense comparing the twenty three

635
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 4: season to the twenty two season, So I'm kind of

636
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 4: interested to see that. I mean, if he's getting twenty

637
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 4: million dollars a season Vucevic's, then Lopez should at least

638
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 4: be looking for that more like twenty five to thirty.

639
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 4: I would think that makes for quite the hefty bill

640
00:31:58,760 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 4: for Milwaukee.

641
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: For sure. The Kings are keeping their guy too. Kigs

642
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: forward Harrison Barnes has agreed to a three year, fifty

643
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: four million dollar contract extension. The deal keeps Barnes out

644
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: of unrestricted free agency and obviously secures one of Sacramento's

645
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: most dependable performers. He's always good for fifteen points and

646
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: some good three point shooting, decent defense, and he's a

647
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: vet and all that. This leaves the Kings with roughly

648
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: seventeen million dollars in cap space for other pursuits, but

649
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: like takes him out of the running for like any

650
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: sort of like Kuzma. We thought maybe probably Grant Williams.

651
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: I doubt he would be going there to this team

652
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: now that they've keeping Harrison Barnes. Were you shocked by

653
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: this at all? Tasks that they came to a contract

654
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: extension with Harry bow.

655
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, as outsiders, Oh, we want movement, we want

656
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: Kuzma there, we want to see some action. Jeremy Grant

657
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: was a rumor. Draymond Green the big rumor. They stayed steady.

658
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 2: There's something to be said for that. It's a lot

659
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: of continuity. This team played a lot together. Not mad

660
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 2: at it whatsoever. Nobody gets mad at Harrison Barnes. He no,

661
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 2: he got mad at Harry.

662
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 4: He's very mad that Harrison Barnes didn't invite him to

663
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 4: his wedding. Really, yes, he invited all the other Warriors.

664
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 4: Why not Draymond totally?

665
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: I can't trust him and make a scene, flip a

666
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: table somebody I don't blame. It was a risk he

667
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: could not take on his big day.

668
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 2: Did you see Draymond Green yesterday? He can't even drink.

669
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: Did you see him? Method watched it. So he's not

670
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 2: going to cause problems at a wedding. He loves love. Yeah,

671
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: that's a great backstory, very interesting. I guess they can't

672
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: bring Draymond Green into the go ahead of the Sacramento Kings.

673
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 2: Now they're done. Yeah, what do the Kings do on

674
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: top of this? I don't think Listen, I don't.

675
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 7: I don't.

676
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: I'm not mad at them for not overpaying for Calcus

677
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: Man that may have not been a good fit. I

678
00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 2: ain't mad at that. And uh again, you know, you

679
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: look at the Nuggets and you say, we hope to

680
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 2: be that one day. Let's keep the thing flowing here

681
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: that we got. I don't think it takes them out

682
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 2: of the running of another big man they traded away

683
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 2: ver Shaun Holmes. Grant Williams could be a guy that

684
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 2: they get. They still do have room they didn't use

685
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 2: at all, and so I think there's potential there that

686
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 2: they signed Grant Williams to a double digit mill deal

687
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 2: and the Celtics saying, now we can't match that because

688
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 2: he is a restricted free agent. So I think that's

689
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: the type of guy that they go for. Does that

690
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 2: really really boost their defense. I don't know, not all

691
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 2: that much, I guess, but I think it's.

692
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: Something well, like I said, seventeen million in cap space.

693
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: That could be bringing Trey Lyles back into the fold.

694
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 1: It could be renegotiating and extending some bonus and his deal.

695
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: It could be like you said, I guess, someone like

696
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: Grant Williams. There's a lot of rumor they should just

697
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: throw the bag at Bruce Brown, try and steal him

698
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: from the Denver Nuggets and he could sort of fit in.

699
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: He could slot into every team we've talked about. I

700
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: don't know how likely that is, but yeah, there's some

701
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 1: some wiggle room here for the Kings, and they decided

702
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: to I guess, yeah, not throw a big, big deal

703
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 1: at either Draymond if you ever believed he was leaving

704
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 1: Golden State, or a Kuzma or something like that, and

705
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: just bring back Harrison, Barnes, Steady, Harry and UH still

706
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: have some Steady still have some some room to operate

707
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 1: with because I don't think they're done.

708
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 4: I don't think they should be. I think this, but

709
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 4: I think those are not done. Skeets. We actually have

710
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 4: some semi breaking UH Sacramento Kings news here from Shan

711
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,479
Speaker 4: Shrania over at the Athletic. The Indiana Pacers are nearing

712
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 4: a trade, sending guard Chris Duarte to the Sacramento Kings

713
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 4: for draft compensation. Okay, Duarte gonna be a King?

714
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: All right.

715
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: Well, hey, look I always say you got a chance

716
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: to bring a Canadian onto the roster, you do so.

717
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: I guess they still have Trey Leles right now. Technically, uh, Duarte,

718
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: all right.

719
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 2: You're the You're the biggest Chris Duarte fan.

720
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: I know, oh, huge, absolutely huge man. He had a

721
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: sure take a flyer.

722
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 4: He didn't do anything, no, yah, nothing last year.

723
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, take a fire on them.

724
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 2: His rookie year was decent for sure.

725
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: Okay, So the Kings are doing a little other things.

726
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 4: Here, Kings things, Kings things. I'm with you.

727
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 2: They need another big guy.

728
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,439
Speaker 4: Alex Land ain't gonna cut it as the big off

729
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 4: the bench. But it's just a little uninspiring. The Kings

730
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 4: made their draft day move with Rashaun Holmes and sending

731
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 4: him and the twenty four pick to Dallas. It looked

732
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 4: like they were going to do something spicy, but instead

733
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 4: they're just playing the continuity game, which is probably smart.

734
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 4: Look what the Denver Nuggets did. They just kept their

735
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,240
Speaker 4: team together for years and years and eventually it paid

736
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 4: off in the long run. So I kind of think

737
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 4: they will renegotiate an extensive bonus. The guy just made

738
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 4: all NBA like looks like a great pairing next to

739
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 4: Fox Lyles was a solid small ball big as well,

740
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 4: and they can sign him. And then they brought back

741
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 4: Harrison Barnes, who if anybody's interested, still could be traded. Otherwise,

742
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 4: just a steady, hairy kind of guy.

743
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. The other big news for the

744
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: last couple of days, the Rockets are preparing I think

745
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: this was from Mark Stein. The Rockets are preparing a

746
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 1: two year, eighty five million dollar max offer to Fred

747
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: van Vliet. My goodness, tasks your thoughts a lot of

748
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: money for FVV.

749
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 2: I love this move. I think it's really really smart.

750
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: It's a lot of money. But they have to pay

751
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 2: somebody these next two years. They have so many young

752
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 2: guys on rookie contracts. They have to pay somebody. Why

753
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 2: not an adult in the room that people respect. Fred

754
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 2: van Vliet will come in there and help out guys

755
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 2: on the floor. They have so many young guys. I

756
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 2: was astonished looking up and down this roster and thinking

757
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 2: about it. They need a guy who's won a championship,

758
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 2: who has a lot of respect ball in his hands

759
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 2: to look at and to help out. Because not only

760
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 2: is it Jalen Green and Jabari Smith and Alperh and Schengun,

761
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: but now I'm in Thompson, Kevin Porter, Junior Cam Whitmore.

762
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 2: There are so many young atari's and there's so many

763
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: young guys. I think they're looking at other players as well,

764
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: But I think you need a point guard and I

765
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 2: think this is the best you look at all the options.

766
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 2: Harden was not a good option for this team. Kyri

767
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 2: Ving not a good option for this team. This is

768
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 2: the best option. And they're only going to pay him

769
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: for two years, so it makes sense from both sides.

770
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 2: Number One, you got to pay somebody these next two

771
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: years until those contracts expire have to be renegotiated and extended.

772
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 2: Why not Fred van Vliet. I think it's perfect and

773
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: you don't have to pay him in year three or

774
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 2: four where he might not be as good physically. And

775
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: for Fred, he's kind of betting on himself in two years,

776
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 2: so it's I think it's a great deal. I think

777
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 2: it makes so much sense not to handcuff themselves in

778
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,959
Speaker 2: year three and year four and get this dude who

779
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 2: I think will be a real just guy that they

780
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 2: look at and I don't know if they give him

781
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 2: the big locker that James Harden used to have. It's

782
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 2: ridiculous how they can fit you're that locker room. My

783
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 2: man Kelly Eco reminded me remember those those Dwight Howard

784
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 2: and James Harden days in Houston. They made two huge

785
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 2: lockers like double lockers for Harden and Dwight Howard. Harder

786
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: got the supreme locker and that's now Kevin Porter Junior's locker. Wow.

787
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 2: So I don't know if they I don't know. Yeah,

788
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 2: that hasn't worked out.

789
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 4: We got there earlier than some of the other Yes,

790
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 4: he beat them, but.

791
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: The Fred's going to help a guy like him Portie

792
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 2: who was nineteen five and five last year and he's

793
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,439
Speaker 2: he's he's actually has a really long contract there. Now.

794
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 2: Is he going to want to go to the bench

795
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 2: and play off the bench? I don't know, but he

796
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 2: his numbers were were pretty good and they get they

797
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 2: need an adult. I think this is the best option.

798
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 2: I think it's a really.

799
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: Good ellis talking about Van Vliet to the Rockets like

800
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: it's a done deal. Yeah, you don't see him coming

801
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: back to the Raptors if it's going to be this

802
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:45,959
Speaker 1: type of money here.

803
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 2: I yeah, they're not going to do that.

804
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 4: I don't think.

805
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: What do you think.

806
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 4: I think this is a smart way for the Rockets

807
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 4: to kind of game the system here. They've got so

808
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 4: much cap space and they have to spend it basically

809
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 4: up to the floor, So so why not make it

810
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 4: too expensive for the Raptors to want to match or

811
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 4: even give Van Vliet a third year or something along

812
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 4: those lines. Like Task says, this makes so much sense

813
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 4: for Houston because as soon as Van Vliet's big deal

814
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 4: is off the books, you know, forty two and a

815
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 4: half million dollars whatever it may be, he'll only be

816
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 4: thirty two, at which point you could give them a

817
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 4: longer deal on a shorter amount of money, or a

818
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 4: smaller amount of money if you wanted, or just say

819
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 4: thanks for your service, thank you for teaching our young

820
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 4: guys how to play. They're ready to play, and they're

821
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 4: all getting expensive now as well. So I think this

822
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 4: is pretty smart.

823
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Rockets and Udoka, there's no doubt that they

824
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 1: want to bring in, especially at the guard position. Some

825
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,479
Speaker 1: that's some guys that have won in this league before

826
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: know how to win their professionals, so they can just

827
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: be like, obviously follow these guys. Look at these guys.

828
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: Get some guidance from these guys. I'm talking about their

829
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: young guys. But also like remember this was a team,

830
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: like these young guys had to play and there was

831
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: no threat to ever them not to play because well

832
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,959
Speaker 1: who was going to play. So like Porter and Jellen Green,

833
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: I think that maybe stunted their growth a little bit.

834
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: This will have if they do sign you know, Van Vliet,

835
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: if they do bring in Dylan Brooks or maybe it's

836
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: brook Lopez at the center position, I feel like it'll

837
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: be VanVleet and probably Brooks. That's like, okay, now you

838
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: have to earn your minutes because they're going to like

839
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: stars and if you got to play defense and obviously

840
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: play a team ball here to earn your opportunity and

841
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: that that makes that makes sense. I think it can

842
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: like drag these guys up, these young guys on the

843
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: Rockets up a little bit. I like this This is

844
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: a really smart contract proposal from the Rockets that two years. Like,

845
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: people are gonna go nuts when they find out Van

846
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 1: Bleet is potentially making you know, like forty million dollars plus. Like,

847
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,240
Speaker 1: people are gonna be like what but for two years,

848
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 1: still in his prime and we know what he can do.

849
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: It works for them. They're one of the rare teams.

850
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: This makes sense to throw a huge deal like that

851
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: at him, a max deal for two years.

852
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: He's a free agent at the right time with the CBA.

853
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: TV money kicking in too, wouldn't it be around there?

854
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: What do what you mean?

855
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: Well, isn't that in like twenty twenty six? So if

856
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: he'ter signed, if he were to sign a two year deal,

857
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,439
Speaker 1: then Lee could be playing this perfectly him and his agents.

858
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 2: Right, and the Rockets are as well, because maybe you

859
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 2: don't want to pay Fred van Vliet year thirty three,

860
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 2: year thirty four at forty mili. No, this is and

861
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 2: it just it just works out perfectly for him in

862
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 2: terms of timing because the Rockets have to spend they

863
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 2: can't really pay anybody else next year on their roster.

864
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 2: They're all still on their rookie deal, so it's two years.

865
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 2: You got to pay somebody. Now, are they going to

866
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 2: screw it up and pay somebody else a lot of

867
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 2: money and go, you know, way over the cap or

868
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 2: something by by extending it, extending an offer to somebody

869
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 2: in the long term, maybe.

870
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: Like Kuzma or somebody.

871
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. We'll see. But so far this report makes

872
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 2: it smart. Dylan Brooks would would be the next guy.

873
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 2: It makes sense, I think, because it's not a ton

874
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: of money. And then brook Lopez. I think those are

875
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: the top three guys that are on there desired players lists.

876
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: But they're not getting all three of those guys. If

877
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 1: Van Vleet's getting forty plus.

878
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 2: Million, are they probably not.

879
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 4: I don't think they're got like sixty to spend.

880
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 2: I think, right, maybe a little bit more sty under

881
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: the cap. Yeah you can, you can sneak in it.

882
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 2: Maybe Dylan takes twelve. Yeah, yeah, you can find a

883
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 2: way to get all three, I guess. But I assume

884
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 2: Brooks going back to Milwaukee probably taking a bit of

885
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: a discount because of what Chris Middleton just did. He

886
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: does the same, So yeah, he's getting around Booch money.

887
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 2: I imagine.

888
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 1: Let me hit hit you with some other things. Here

889
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: just quickly. You can talk about all of them or

890
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: none of them if you want. Reports that Kyrie Irving

891
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: is going to meet with the Suns. Yeah once free

892
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: agency begins, yes, yeah, yeah, Why why are you loving that?

893
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 2: Just there?

894
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 4: They might see a leverage around here. I'm going to

895
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 4: Phoenix's gonna see the leverage down there.

896
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 2: So they can pay me the that minimum. I'll do it.

897
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: I want him to do it so bad. Oh man,

898
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: I love it. I would love if Kyrie went and

899
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: joined some whatever super team ever you want to call it,

900
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:12,720
Speaker 1: for the Vets minimum.

901
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 2: Through it out there, that he'd be the kind of

902
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 2: guy to think about retirement. Would he be the kind

903
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 2: of guy to want to play with Beale and Book?

904
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: That would be so weird a backcourt if those three guys,

905
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 2: who's gonna play?

906
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 4: Ye? Sounds like, yeah, that's the thing nobody has to

907
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 4: play every night. If you got it, if you got

908
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 4: a lot of superstars, we can all rest.

909
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: He could be screwing the MAVs here by doing this too, though,

910
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: like by dragging it out, I think they would. It

911
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: would have been favorable, favorable for them to like come

912
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: to an agreement with Kyrie right away to then like

913
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: move on, start thinking about their MLS and stuff like that.

914
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: I actually think he's screwing them here if he drags

915
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: this out and takes all these meetings and stuff like that.

916
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: Someone don't quote me on that, but I'm pretty sure

917
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 1: it does hurt them a little bit. The Pacers are

918
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: targeting Max Struce for a three year, forty eight million

919
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: dollar contract that was report yesterday. Any thoughts, I mean

920
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: the Pacers were like linked to Harrison Barnes for a

921
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: long time, and so there is now this one here Streops.

922
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 4: I think they're gonna be linked to a lot of

923
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 4: mid level free agents right now. They've got some money

924
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 4: to spend. They've got a great backcourt going right now.

925
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 4: They've got Miles Turner is back in their front court.

926
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 4: They got Jaris Walker now, so there's still holes to

927
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 4: be filled. They don't have a very deep team. So

928
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,479
Speaker 4: all these guys who were kind of in the middle,

929
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 4: like sixteen mil from Max Strews. That looks crazy, but

930
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 4: what a glow up for him. Somebody told me that

931
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 4: he looks like Nick Kroll. It's like whoa, whoa, whoa,

932
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 4: whoa whoa. Now I used to think he looked like Tasmelis. Yeah,

933
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 4: every time I look at him, I'm like blue eyed

934
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 4: Nick Kroll. For sure, that's tough, but yeah I can.

935
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 4: It's like, who else have been the Pacers been linked to.

936
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 4: Definitely Grant Williams. Yeah, Harrison Barnes was in the mix before.

937
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,959
Speaker 4: So there are a lot of these mid level guys

938
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 4: that are gonna at least be using the Pacers for

939
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 4: that sweet, sweet leverage.

940
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 2: And now they're trading dou Arte so they could use

941
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 2: another shooter max contract Streus. That's a lot of money

942
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 2: for Struce, but he does the things you need in

943
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 2: the NBA, that's for sure, and so a huge glow up.

944
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 2: That's that's that's a great term for it great for

945
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 2: him four years just bouncing around minimums less than minimums. Hell,

946
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 2: he helped a heat backcourt. And so I guess this

947
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 2: is a case where they're trying to sort of overpay

948
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 2: and get a guy they want.

949
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: The Lakers were working the books there yesterday. I believe

950
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: they waved Mobamba. What did they do with Malik Beasley?

951
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: Somebody remind me, I don't guess they just pick up

952
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: his option. Yeah, so they did a lot of this.

953
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: People think because they're very interested in Nuggets forward Bruce Brown,

954
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: trying to open up enough money to sort of go

955
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: over the top of what we know the Nuggets can

956
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: offer him. They're in a bit of a pickle there,

957
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: Denver is unless they can convince them to come back

958
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,720
Speaker 1: to the championship team and then obviously make a renegotiation

959
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: and extension in the future. But Lakers being interested in

960
00:46:58,560 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: Bruce Browny.

961
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 4: Thoughts they should be. He'd be an excellent player alongside

962
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 4: Lebron and ad as another ball handler, another guy who

963
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 4: can defend, crash the class, just make plays in transition.

964
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 4: Bruce Brown would fit so many places, and he's gonna

965
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 4: have basically his choice of where he wants to go

966
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 4: because there's gonna be a lot of teams that are

967
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 4: gonna be able to offer the same mid level extension

968
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 4: to him. Maybe another team decides to go over the top.

969
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 4: That could have been the Kings. They decided not to obviously,

970
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,959
Speaker 4: But uh yeah, Bruce Brown, I guess people are still

971
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 4: talking about he could go back to Denver because there

972
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 4: is a big difference in the amounts he we get

973
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 4: seven point eight million, twelve point four to twelve point

974
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 4: eight million. That's a five million dollar gap for a

975
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 4: guy that hasn't made a ton of money yet in

976
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 4: his career. But if he decides, I'm just gonna postpone

977
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 4: it for one year, try and get another another ring

978
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 4: and do the Bobby Portis thing. It's reasonable. But he's

979
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 4: just gonna have to make a big pros and consolest

980
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 4: because there's gonna be a lot of teams who want

981
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 4: this guy.

982
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, he could fit anywhere, and so the Lakers

983
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 2: would be so happy getting him. What does Bruce want?

984
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 2: What's on the pros?

985
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 4: What?

986
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: Br and the Clippers are not guaranteeing Eric Gordon's twenty

987
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: one million dollar deal next season, Just to go back

988
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: to them full circle here, starting with them in those

989
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: James Harden rumors. But Eric Gordon not guarantee So they

990
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: declined on that twenty one million dollars not a surprise.

991
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 4: I don't think now that would have been a big

992
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 4: number to pay Eric Gordon. And obviously they I think

993
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 4: didn't win horse report that they save like one hundred

994
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 4: million dollars or something like that and luxury tax. A

995
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 4: team will take a chance on Eric Gordon. He'll be

996
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 4: a helpful guy to a contender. Just like the Clippers

997
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 4: thought he was going to be this year.

998
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was. I mean he was very, very

999
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 2: useful on their team.

1000
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: Final breaking news here, apparently ESPN has let go of

1001
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: jeff Ian Gundy.

1002
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, their top.

1003
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: MBA analyst, jvg. This is from the Post saying that

1004
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: he's been let.

1005
00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 4: Go Jalen Rose as well.

1006
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: Really just revamping there.

1007
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 4: ESPN broadcast what's going on, high profile layoffs. According to

1008
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 4: the New York Post.

1009
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: Goodness, So Jeffvan Gundy on the market, which team will make.

1010
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 2: A play for?

1011
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: Where does he fit? How do you feel about Jeffvan

1012
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 1: Gundy running the point for the Raptors next year's TSK.

1013
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: We've seen his ball skills. I guess I'd rather have

1014
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 1: Stan if I'm being honest. He's got the handles.

1015
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 2: I thought.

1016
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: There's always a clip we show or that we're shown

1017
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 1: of him, like playing high school ball.

1018
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 4: Maybe it's a photo. There's definitely it's a photo.

1019
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: Didn't have cameras or whatever.

1020
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: That's yeah, that's burned into my brain. Also, yeah, stan

1021
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 2: Van's the one with the Yeah, so I'd.

1022
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: Rather Doris first Raptors wish list at the point guard

1023
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: when it comes to ESPN analysts Doris at one, Stan

1024
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: Van two, Jeff Van three.

1025
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 4: You're taking all these people over the NBA players who've

1026
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 4: been retired for like two or three seasons. JJ Reddick,

1027
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 4: I mean he wasn't a point guard, that's right, Richard Jefferson,

1028
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 4: not a point guard.

1029
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: Jalen Rose Sir, could handle. Yeah, maybe bring him back

1030
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: to Toronto. Everybody watched Devin Booker score eighty one on us.

1031
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 4: You want me to just throw you some random slops here? Sure,

1032
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 4: just some random slops I'm seeing. This one's from Florida

1033
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 4: Sports Buzz, the Heat and Calves. I've just discussed the

1034
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 4: sign and trade involving Max Strus. Okay, okay, decent slot.

1035
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 4: I mean, look, that's a player I could see. Cleveland, yep.

1036
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 2: I think they've been dying for a small for Gabe.

1037
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 4: Vincent didn't show any interest in Miami's latest contract offer.

1038
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 4: Vincent's return is looking less likely unless the Heat raises offer.

1039
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, and there's a lot of talk about him.

1040
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: If the Raptors are to lose Fred van Vliet, then

1041
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: maybe they they scoop Gabe and we have a Gabe

1042
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: and Gary backboard.

1043
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 2: No Gabe Vincent, Oh yeah, we.

1044
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 1: Need to go get Cam Reddish, so we get gabing

1045
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: Cam back together. That is a deep cut for you

1046
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,720
Speaker 1: stickos out there. What else you got any more slop?

1047
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 4: More teams meeting with Bruce Brown, the Knicks, Rockets, Pacers,

1048
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 4: and Mavericks. The Clippers are not offering Paul George in

1049
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 4: any trade package for James Harden. Don't even think about

1050
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 4: asking for it. And that looks like we are caught

1051
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 4: up with regard. Oh, the Houston Rockets are expecting to

1052
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 4: meet with Kyrie Irving, so oh yeah, okay, okay, I

1053
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 4: think we're all caught up on slop so far, all right.

1054
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 1: And by the way, we are planning if some fun

1055
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 1: stuff happens at six pm Eastern, when free agency officially

1056
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: starts and we maybe start getting some legitimate news of

1057
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: player going to you know, stick with his team or

1058
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 1: go somewhere else, we might jump on tonight on stream

1059
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: yard and do a little recap of the NBA free

1060
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: agency frenzy. So make sure you subscribed to nodunks on

1061
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: YouTube and the podcast. Let's take a break and when

1062
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: we come back, we'll talk a little bit about the

1063
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 1: CBA and have some rapid fire fund don't go anywhere,

1064
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: all right, It's still here in the Classic Factory. If

1065
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: you're joining us live on YouTube, hit that like button

1066
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Speaker 1: make sure you subscribe. On Wednesday, the NBA and the

1067
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: Players Association, they announced that the final long form version

1068
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: of the new Collective Bargaining Agreement has has been completed

1069
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: and signed. The seven year CBA will take effect on

1070
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: July first, twenty twenty three, that's tomorrow, and run through

1071
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty nine to thirty season. There is a

1072
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,720
Speaker 1: mutual opt out option for both sides after the twenty

1073
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: eight to twenty nine season. So we're looking at like

1074
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: six years of labor piece guaranteed, baby, And there are

1075
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: a few things to unpack here. We're not gonna try

1076
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: and boria. But this second apron is worth talking about.

1077
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: The first apron, by the way, it's going to be

1078
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: around seven million dollars above the luxury tax level. But

1079
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 1: that second apron, that's the headliner. I've never heard those

1080
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: two words said together more than the last week.

1081
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 2: Second apron, second April.

1082
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: Yes, chef, yes, chef, corner, corner, yes, chef.

1083
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 2: I was chanting c b hey, c b ech every

1084
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 2: time every time somebody mentioned a second apron.

1085
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: Second, So the second apron. I want you to remember,

1086
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: the league pushed for an upper spending limit, basically a

1087
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: hard cap, but they didn't get one. So this is

1088
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: sort of the compromise. This second apron, the soft hard

1089
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: cap as some call it. It's going to be set

1090
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 1: at seventeen point five million dollars above the luxury tax

1091
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: level for this upcoming season. It will increase at the

1092
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: same rate of growth as the cap in the ensuing seasons.

1093
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: In the twenty twenty three twenty four that cap is

1094
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 1: projected to come in at roughly one hundred and thirty

1095
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 1: six million and the luxury tax level at one hundred

1096
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: and sixty five million, So then you can do the

1097
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: math when you get to the second apron.

1098
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 2: There.

1099
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: So the penalties, that's all everybody cares about. What does

1100
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: this mean if my team hits the second apron? What

1101
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: the hell happens? Do we like lose our team? Are

1102
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: we relegating?

1103
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 4: They dissolve a team?

1104
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 1: No, no, they don't.

1105
00:53:59,120 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 2: Uh.

1106
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: Here are a couple of the penalties and showed it

1107
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: to Mike Vorkanoff at the Athletic Hood awesome article on

1108
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: this breaking it all down. I took a lot from

1109
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 1: it because I'm a nerd and I sort of well,

1110
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: I mean, there are levels to nerd them. When it

1111
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:14,760
Speaker 1: comes to the CBA. I'm probably like right in the middle.

1112
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 1: I'm not a Danny LaRue, I'm not a Johnny Hall,

1113
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: I'm not a who else obviously, a Nate Duncan, even

1114
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: a Mike Vorkanoff who really knows the stuff on this.

1115
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: I'm in the middle. Where are you, guys fall when

1116
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: it comes to CBA, nerd them?

1117
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 4: Nerd them.

1118
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say.

1119
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 4: Nerd them, got them.

1120
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 2: Not as much as you?

1121
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: Okay, good, That's why I'm here.

1122
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:40,760
Speaker 4: Okay.

1123
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 1: So the penalties for teams that go past the second

1124
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 1: apron they can be severe. Any team that crosses the

1125
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,280
Speaker 1: threshold will lose access to the taxpayer mid level exception.

1126
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,919
Speaker 1: So this clause, let's put into context. This clause would

1127
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 1: have prevented the twenty twenty two signings of Gallinari to

1128
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: the Celtics, to Dante DiVincenzo to the Warriors, to Joe

1129
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 1: Ingles to the Bucks. So again, this is where you'll

1130
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: lose that taxpayer mid level exception if you hit that

1131
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: second apron these teams, they can't take in more salary

1132
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: in a trade than they are sending out. Previously, they

1133
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: could take back one hundred and twenty five percent of

1134
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: their outgoing salaries. You guys talked about this when we

1135
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 1: were talking about the timing of all these deals. Here

1136
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: as we hit this new CBA, these teams can't trade

1137
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: first round picks seven years out anymore. This is the

1138
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: infamous frozen pick. If you hit the second apron, you know,

1139
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: seven years into the future, you're not going to be

1140
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: able to trade those picks. I mean, you can get

1141
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: them back, and I'm not going to like bore you

1142
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: with all of that, but it's it is quite a

1143
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: penalty when you think about it, especially the way these

1144
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: deals are put together now, and we're like, okay, we'll

1145
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 1: give you three picks and swaps in the future, Well,

1146
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: that would be taken away in theory way down the line.

1147
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: These teams can't trade cashing any deal. Okay. That could

1148
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: be a bit of a knock for squads. It prevents

1149
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: them from being able to buy second round picks. Really

1150
00:55:58,120 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: on Draft night, that's when you see a lot of

1151
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: like cash sort of deals for second rounders. You wouldn't

1152
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 1: be able to do that. These teams can't sign buyout

1153
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 1: players during the season. Okay, that would have prevented the

1154
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three buyout signings of Russell Westbrook with the Clips,

1155
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 1: Dragic with the Bucks, Terrence Ross with the Suns, Justin

1156
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: Holiday with the Mavericks. Again, these are teams that will

1157
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: have hypothetically been you know, over the second apron. They

1158
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't able to get biot guys like that.

1159
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember teams were pretty heated a couple seasons

1160
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 4: back that the Warriors and Clippers were basically like signing

1161
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 4: every good buyout guy because they don't care. They're like,

1162
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 4: we'll spend the money, just let us get these guys. Which,

1163
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 4: as you're saying, like it's hilarious to hear all of

1164
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 4: these things that are gonna be disallowed by the CBA,

1165
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 4: and like none of them made a difference to the

1166
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 4: season at all. It's like, oh, man, what if you

1167
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 4: can't get Dante DiVincenzo, Oh what are you gonna do?

1168
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 4: But it has an.

1169
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: Effect, right, And then there's a lot more in the

1170
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 1: new CBA about underspending and the penalties that come along

1171
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: with that. So you do have to hit like a

1172
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: certain floor. Two way contracts you can have up to

1173
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 1: three of those now used to be two. There's luxury

1174
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 1: tax implications, there's tampering fines for agents players. This is good.

1175
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: Players will no longer be prohibited from using marijuana. That's

1176
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: in the new CBA. We've been working our way to that.

1177
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: So it will be interesting to see how this new

1178
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: second apron impacts like spending and roster building over these

1179
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: next couple of years, and how many of these teams

1180
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: will be in this second apron luxury tax.

1181
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, on average it was about three teams that

1182
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 2: would be at that that mirage of a line in

1183
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 2: the past, and but this last year it was a

1184
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 2: bunch of teams nine. Yeah, but prior to that it

1185
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 2: was about three according to her Man of working on right. Yeah,

1186
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 2: the players getting something in these in these pages and

1187
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 2: pages and pages. The biggest thing I think is they're

1188
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 2: able to invest in basketball teams.

1189
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is that.

1190
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool. Cool for them being able.

1191
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 4: The main thing they won, I think absolutely.

1192
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: Otherwise you don't believe this was a strong CBA for

1193
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: the players.

1194
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 4: Well, I think it is because of all the investment

1195
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 4: stuff and they're just gonna be able to make a

1196
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 4: bigger total of money. The BRI has increased a lot,

1197
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 4: but like the signing rules and like the frozen pick

1198
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 4: stuff and trying to keep track of all that is

1199
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 4: going to be confusing. And there's definitely gonna be guys

1200
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 4: in the middle who get squeezed and are taking a

1201
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 4: lot cheaper. But you got to make it back with

1202
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 4: those betting companies, I guess.

1203
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: So that's why a lot of people pushing back on

1204
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: this new CBA the from the player side of things,

1205
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: like this union, it felt like they went to bat

1206
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: for like the top three percent for the big name

1207
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: players and it might hurt like a majority of the

1208
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: middle where they're actually going to lose money. We'll see

1209
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: how it plays out. I mean, it's one thing to

1210
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: say this, We've got to see how these teams and

1211
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: these front offices actually approach this. But those penalties are severe.

1212
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: I mean you can laugh at them and go, oh no,

1213
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: you know, I can't trade my cash for a second

1214
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: round pick. But all of these little things, these machinations

1215
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: like they add up. They obviously these guys in the

1216
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: front office are smart, smart smart. They'll figure this out too.

1217
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: But if you are way over and they're just trying

1218
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: to say hey Warriors, Hey Ishbia maybe with the Suns,

1219
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: like yeah, you guys have all the money in the

1220
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: world and you're light years ahead and all that, but

1221
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: we want a more even playing field. That's what's like

1222
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: the you know, I guess that's the idea of what's

1223
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: going to work here. We'll see how it plays out.

1224
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 2: It's about parody, that's the idea. Yeah. I think the

1225
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 2: players one in that they can invest in themselves essentially

1226
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 2: get more of what they are producing. Investing in teams. Yeah,

1227
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 2: the investing in gambling companies, which is an interesting part.

1228
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 2: You can invest in a gambling company only one percent

1229
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 2: of that company if it takes NBA bets, but up

1230
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 2: to fifty percent if it doesn't take NBA bets. But

1231
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 2: as far as hurting the middle class, I think the

1232
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 2: rule of the bottom half of teams having to pay

1233
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 2: ninety percent of the salary cap at the beginning of

1234
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 2: the season versus what used to be the rule, which

1235
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 2: was at the end of the season, where you just

1236
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 2: kind of, you know, you figure it out at the end.

1237
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 2: That helps the paychecks. I think in October November December January,

1238
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 2: February of middle class players, but yeah TBD.

1239
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 4: One question that I have is will teams be more

1240
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 4: and more hesitant to give the super max or like

1241
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 4: the biggest max deal they can to, like a Bradley

1242
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 4: beal right, when you're looking at the second apron, do

1243
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 4: you want to be paying the forty percent of your

1244
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 4: salary cap to a guy who's in the top twenty

1245
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 4: in the NBA or is that going to be finally

1246
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 4: reserved for like the top of the top, Because you're

1247
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 4: really putting yourself behind the eight ball if you're spending

1248
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 4: that much of your money on one guy who may

1249
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 4: or may not lift you all the way to where

1250
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 4: you want to be. So they could be squeezing the superstars,

1251
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 4: but not the super duper stars as well.

1252
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: Yes, we'll see other things in the CBA that are

1253
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: sort of fun to talk about. A lot of this

1254
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 1: we knew already, but award voting it is official. Players

1255
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: must appear in at least sixty five games to be

1256
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 1: eligible for awards, So MVP All NBA and stuff like that.

1257
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 1: This is fun. The three All NBA and two All

1258
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 1: defensive teams will be pushed positionless rather than the traditional

1259
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: voting of the two guards, two forwards, and a center.

1260
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: We are going to have some hilarious all defensive teams here,

1261
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 1: I think in theory we're gonna have like you know, guys. Yeah,

1262
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like seven centers and maybe two wings

1263
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: and I don't know, maybe a guard sneaks in there.

1264
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 1: Do you have any thoughts on that going away from

1265
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: having the two guards to forwards and a center for

1266
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: those all NBA and all defensive teams.

1267
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,479
Speaker 2: I think it's good. Yeah, I think it will prove

1268
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 2: out to be the most important defensive players are going

1269
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 2: to show through in those ten guys. Yeah, it'll probably

1270
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 2: be sixty at least sixty percent bigs, maybe seven out

1271
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 2: of ten.

1272
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: And this has an impact on some of these guys

1273
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: contracts obviously when you start talking about like super Max,

1274
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: you know.

1275
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't change that, no, no.

1276
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: But you know, so the point being like, okay, now

1277
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: I have to be I got to be one of

1278
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: the fifteen best players in the league as voted on

1279
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: from the media to make All NBA, and not one

1280
01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: of the top six forwards in the league. Right, We'll

1281
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: see what impact that has and where will there be

1282
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Speaker 1: more of will there be just more guards, Will there

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01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 1: be more forwards, you know, centers, I guess possibly unlikely.

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Speaker 2: But fasciating Yoka chim Beid probably on the first team.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, right right, And then the final part. I

1286
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about this in season tournament. It begins

1287
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Speaker 1: this coming season, very very likely. It's gonna feature all

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Speaker 1: thirty teams. It's gonna take place on specific days during

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01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: the first two months of the regular season. How do

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01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 1: you read that? So that means like, so like whatever

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Speaker 1: Tuesdays and Thursdays are in season tournament games. I assume

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Speaker 1: they're just gonna pick calendar days and like those will

1293
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 1: be the big nights for the n season tournament sickos

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01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 1: out there, right.

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01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, yeah, I'm thinking I was watching the Commissioner's

1296
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 4: Cup yesterday, sure, Atlanta Dream versus Washingtonistics. Of course, So

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Speaker 4: I wonder if it's literally I wonder if it's like

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01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 4: Tuesdays and Thursdays, or if it's specifically like June twenty ninth,

1299
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 4: that's a overcup days all of these games right towards it.

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01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 4: It'll be something along those lines where the only thing

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01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 4: different is the graphic on the floor and you're like, oh,

1302
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 4: this one counts different, right.

1303
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: It starts with a group stage. Okay, again, all thirty

1304
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: teams are in this, So there's a group stage, and

1305
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: then it's decided, obviously by record, down to eight teams

1306
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 1: that advance to the knockout round. The semi final and

1307
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: final games are going to be at neutral sites. A

1308
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 1: lot of people think it will be Vegas, but we

1309
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: don't know where yet. Players on all eight of the

1310
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 1: final teams will be compensated financially. Players on the championship

1311
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 1: ship squad receive five hundred thousand each, runners up get

1312
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 1: two hundred thousand each, Semi finalists aren one hundred thousand.

1313
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,439
Speaker 1: Quarter finalists earn fifty k. So you want to make

1314
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 1: you want to make the knockout if you want more money, yeah,

1315
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 1: and then obviously you want to win the championship if

1316
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: you want five hundred thousand dollars each. We'll see how

1317
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 1: this goes. I mean, look, I'm for this start of

1318
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: the season to make some games have a little bit

1319
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 1: more juice for us as content makers. I mean, I

1320
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 1: don't know why we would be upset by this. We'll

1321
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,919
Speaker 1: just see whether or not the players care at all.

1322
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: And like all those games will count to the regular

1323
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 1: season schedule except for the final game, So two teams

1324
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: will have played eighty three games at the end of

1325
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:13,919
Speaker 1: the year.

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Speaker 2: But that cool.

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01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 1: I don't even know what they'll do with the stats

1328
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 1: of that game. Will the stats of the game count

1329
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: to like regular season stats or stats as well?

1330
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know.

1331
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 4: It takes twenty minutes to actually find it on Basketball Reference.

1332
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 2: John Schuman will be yelling at people. It's on NBA

1333
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 2: dot com.

1334
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 1: That's right. So now the NBA can turn its attention

1335
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: to the next major financial milestone, and that is, as

1336
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 1: I slipped in earlier tasks, the next national media rights deal,

1337
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: because the league's current TV deal with Disney and Turner

1338
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 1: is set to expire at the end of the twenty

1339
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 1: twenty four twenty five seasons, so it is coming up.

1340
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 4: The league is.

1341
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 1: Aiming to triple its media rights fee from two point

1342
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: six billion in the current deal to up words of

1343
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:06,439
Speaker 1: seven to eight billion annually. Yeah, that's right, so we'll see.

1344
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 1: I wonder if these these layoffs have anything to do

1345
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 1: with all of this, would you say? During the break

1346
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 1: twenty people on air personality.

1347
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 2: The New York Post ESPN letting off twenty on it air,

1348
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 2: NBA personalities on air personalities, I should say yeah.

1349
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 1: And according to a new report from the New York

1350
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: Post as well, NBC interested in making a run at

1351
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 1: NBA television rights once again. Bub bub bah bah bah basketball.

1352
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 1: So we could have that back in our lives, yeah,

1353
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 1: John Tesh.

1354
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 4: And there's other streamers out there as well, right, Like

1355
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 4: Amazon got in the NFL game this past season, So there,

1356
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 4: it's gonna be competitive. It's we're gonna get to the

1357
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 4: point where like a sixth man is making thirty five

1358
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 4: million dollars and every six man is making thirty five

1359
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 4: million dollars. If the rights package is going up by

1360
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,959
Speaker 4: three and we're like talking about Vucevic as a starting center,

1361
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 4: We're like, oh yeah, twenty million, that's just what you

1362
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 4: pay these days. The numbers are going to look crazy

1363
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 4: in four or five hours.

1364
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're already starting to get there, for sure with

1365
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 1: some of the max guys.

1366
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 4: Just think Dwan Howard Man, first guy to make a

1367
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 4: hundred million dollars. Now his son is going to come

1368
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 4: into the league. Everybody's like he got drafted eleven. He's

1369
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 4: gonna be making as much as his dad did. Like

1370
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 4: signing his biggest contract just like that. It's weird.

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01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 1: Uh you said, all these new streamers and stuff like that.

1372
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 1: Do you think we could put together a competitive package

1373
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 1: to maybe get one game one game Bulls Raptors. I

1374
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 1: think we should present.

1375
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 4: It where we could scut it right up a document here,

1376
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 4: put together a pitch deck.

1377
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, we get one game, No dunks, Raptors, just one

1378
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 5: of them, not.

1379
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 1: In the series. We just get to pick one of them.

1380
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 1: Let's try a couple of million.

1381
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 2: Probably, I think it makes sense from both our perspective

1382
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 2: and from the NBA for that, right, you see those

1383
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 2: numbers flying in for the play in tournament game while

1384
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 2: we were watching hundreds of people watching.

1385
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 1: A lot with us.

1386
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, I gauged. I wonder how splintered it get

1387
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 2: it gets. We're not going to get to a level

1388
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 2: where Joe Schmo's like us are owning a game. But yeah,

1389
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 2: Amazon has to get in Apple with their MLS attempts

1390
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 2: here and being successful. How deep do we go?

1391
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:17,959
Speaker 1: Very very interesting, And just because we were talking about

1392
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 1: on your personalities, we should say congratulations to the goat

1393
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 1: Ernie Johnson being inducted into the Sports Broadcasting Hall of fame.

1394
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 1: I was more surprised he wasn't already.

1395
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was surprise.

1396
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 4: I was like, what are you waiting for?

1397
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 1: Guys been doing the best television in sports for thirty years.

1398
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 1: Good job putting them in and congrats, good job to Ernie.

1399
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 1: All right, hopefully I didn't Borea with the CBA talk there.

1400
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 1: I don't think it was that bad, right. We learned

1401
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 1: some things, learned some things.

1402
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 4: I saw that the actual CBA six hundred and seventy

1403
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 4: six pages.

1404
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a big guy.

1405
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 4: My two favorite tidbits, both coming by Mike vorkanoff Number

1406
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 4: one games on January first and Good Friday can't start

1407
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 4: before six pm local time, Okay, okay, great, great, they're like,

1408
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 4: we're going out on New Year's Eve? Okay yeah? And

1409
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:11,479
Speaker 4: Mandy Thursday, which is the day before Good Friday. Everyone knows. Also,

1410
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 4: I love this. All NBA players, except for those on

1411
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 4: two way and ten day contracts, will receive free access

1412
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:17,679
Speaker 4: to NBA League Pass.

1413
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:19,640
Speaker 1: Uh see. That's where the Union dropped the ball too.

1414
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,640
Speaker 1: We talked about this earlier this week. Those are the

1415
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 1: guys that needed the deal. Guys, the ten day guys,

1416
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: they need the free league pass. How could you? How

1417
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 1: could you exclude them?

1418
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 4: That's how you become a good leader on your team.

1419
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 4: If your Grant Williams, you're your team's rep. You go

1420
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 4: through it all, you get your league pass and then

1421
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 4: you give it to j D. Davison for some guy

1422
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 4: that's sitting on the bench. Use my code Batman for

1423
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 4: twenty six to nine exclamation point.

1424
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 1: That's this password. Yeah, probably is.

1425
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:53,440
Speaker 2: That was in the old CVA too, apparently.

1426
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but no one new until this week.

1427
01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 4: Everybody knows that weird little thing.

1428
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 1: Thanks to Ama Thompson. Yeah, all right, let's wrap up

1429
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 1: this drop podcast with some rapid fire fun. Trey's got

1430
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 1: the questions, myself tasked, and JD have the answers.

1431
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 4: Kansas City Chiefs starred Travis Kelcey recently told pardon my

1432
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 4: take that podcasting is quote the hardest fin job in

1433
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 4: the world. Damn right, So true as longtime podcasters who

1434
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 4: have done this backbreaking work for years and years. Guys,

1435
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,520
Speaker 4: what is the hardest part of podcasting?

1436
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 2: Skeets.

1437
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 1: I just like that we're finally getting the recognition we deserve.

1438
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 1: You know, it goes doctors, teachers, NBA podcasters not in

1439
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 1: that order, mind you, but all so important and the

1440
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 1: hardest working people in the bus. My answer to this,

1441
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 1: I guess just keeping it fresh, like we've done this

1442
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 1: for a long time. Okay, this isn't blow your mind, guys.

1443
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 1: I don't even know if you guys this, but we

1444
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 1: are nearly reaching our one thousandth podcast with The Athletic.

1445
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this will be our third time hitting one

1446
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 1: thousand podcasts as different iterations of this show. We did

1447
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 1: over a thousand as the Basketball Jones, we did well

1448
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 1: over a thousand as the Starters, and now we're nearing

1449
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 1: a thousand as the Athletic.

1450
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 2: Wow.

1451
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 1: What so keep it fresh man. That's a lot of

1452
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 1: podcasts coming in here day after day, trying our best

1453
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 1: to bring some energy, some creativity because you're talking about

1454
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 1: a lot of the same things. But thankfully this league

1455
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 1: never disappoints, so there's always something new. But that's my.

1456
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:44,680
Speaker 2: Answer, Travis Kelcey, you're the best man. A thousand podcasts

1457
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 2: way harder than receiving one thousand yards, way harder.

1458
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 4: Only get one podcast per episode, but how many yards

1459
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:52,679
Speaker 4: do you get per catches?

1460
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 2: Oh that's a great point. Yeah, eight to twelve, turing

1461
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 2: a good day. Oh no, I shouldn't have said it

1462
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 2: that way on a bad day anyway. Uh, it is

1463
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 2: backbreaking work. A newbie in the game, esh, over there

1464
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:10,640
Speaker 2: during the commercial break, he was just flex or, you know,

1465
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 2: stretching out his back because he was having some back

1466
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 2: problems over there, Esh. How many pods you've been through? Man,

1467
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 2: like seventy one? Max?

1468
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 4: I don't even know how many podcasts I've been on.

1469
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 8: I've been here for six months now, I don't know.

1470
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 2: Well, I hope your back holds up. Yeah, it's the grind.

1471
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 2: That's the grind is the hardest part. As Travis Kelsey said,

1472
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 2: right JD. It's the work that we put in.

1473
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 9: Oh share there, sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean there's

1474
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 9: really actually nothing hard about this job.

1475
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 1: But this is the easiest fucking job in the world,

1476
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 1: one easiest job there is.

1477
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 7: It's not even really a job.

1478
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 9: So there's people listening to this who are actually doing

1479
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 9: work right now, so sucker, yeah exactly. Yeah, So there's

1480
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 9: the answer. There's nothing hard about this job. I mean,

1481
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 9: I can't think of anything. I mean, there's I was the.

1482
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:09,639
Speaker 4: Hardest part.

1483
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it works his ass off, and look, we hear

1484
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 1: about it from time to time. We should still a job.

1485
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 7: Here's the thing.

1486
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 9: I used to be a DJ at in Greece. Again,

1487
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 9: not a real job, but you know, it was like

1488
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 9: I was working as a bus boy in this disco,

1489
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 9: right and I was like, what is the coolest job here?

1490
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 2: It's that guy way up there in the DJ booth.

1491
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 7: I want to be that guy.

1492
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 9: And I just weaseled my way in there, and I

1493
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 9: convinced the boss that I'd be a good DJ when

1494
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 9: the DJ left.

1495
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:40,720
Speaker 7: So I was a DJ.

1496
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 9: I'm like, this is awesome, this is cool. I just

1497
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 9: spin music all the time. But it was seven days

1498
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 9: a week for six months straight and you're trapped behind

1499
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:54,719
Speaker 9: the DJ booth. That's that was the hardest thing about

1500
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 9: that job. And that's kind of the hardest thing about

1501
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 9: this job because it's not unlike a DJ booth back here.

1502
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 9: It was fucking stuck back here. It's like, oh, slack, hey,

1503
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 9: you think we should do a show tomorrow. But I'm like,

1504
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:08,679
Speaker 9: god damn, I was gonna go to the pool. Okay, yeah,

1505
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 9: I guess we've got to do a show. It's it's like,

1506
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 9: when is this season going to end?

1507
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 2: God damn.

1508
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 1: That's the thing. The NBA season just keeps getting longer.

1509
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 1: And when we started it was, hey, you had a

1510
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 1: couple of months that were really like, there was nothing happening.

1511
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 4: That's true.

1512
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 2: DJ has become JD.

1513
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 7: Were you DJ j d uh No, no, no.

1514
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 9: They called me Scooter back in the day, Scooter Henderson

1515
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 9: Scooter to work. U.

1516
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 7: No.

1517
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 9: Somebody stepped on my glasses one time, and then the

1518
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 9: boss went and he just appeared with the lenses of

1519
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 9: the glasses, but these weird sort of frames that looked

1520
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:44,600
Speaker 9: like Scooter from the.

1521
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 7: Muppets, And then they just started calling.

1522
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 1: Me Scooter and it just stuck Scooter on the ones

1523
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 1: and yeah.

1524
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 4: Oh, good answer. It's hardest part for me as pit stains. Yeah,

1525
01:13:56,080 --> 01:14:00,600
Speaker 4: I can't stop them. Then cake on the anti purse print, don't.

1526
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 1: It's also hot as shit here.

1527
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, nerves the high wire life of podcasting. The

1528
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 4: most recent thing, you say, could be.

1529
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:14,679
Speaker 2: Yours a lot wire.

1530
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 4: After a couple of years on the block, John Collins

1531
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:21,640
Speaker 4: was finally traded away from the Hawks. It was long pastime.

1532
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 4: But guys, what's something else that's overdue for an ending?

1533
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 1: Skeets McDonald's celebrating Grimace's birthday. How fucking long is this

1534
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:34,799
Speaker 1: gonna go on? Are you guys getting all these Twitter ads?

1535
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 2: No?

1536
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 1: Yes, I can't. Every third tweet is Grimace still celebrating

1537
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,719
Speaker 1: his birthday? It was June twelfth. I looked.

1538
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 4: I think he turned fifty.

1539
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 1: Two or fifty three.

1540
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 2: Happy birthday.

1541
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 9: Okay, so you know, I know, I know, yeah, but

1542
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 9: we get it.

1543
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 1: It's you can't celebrate your birthday for three weeks on it.

1544
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 1: I know you got the Grimace Birthday meal and shake.

1545
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 1: I get it. I know you got a viral thing

1546
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 1: going on on TikTok. Kids drinking this purple shake and

1547
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:02,639
Speaker 1: pretending to die.

1548
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what it is.

1549
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, It's got a lot of plays, a lot

1550
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 1: of views, but.

1551
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 4: Kids are funny.

1552
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 1: I'm over it.

1553
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 2: Man.

1554
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 1: You get like you get at most a weekend to

1555
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 1: celebrate your birthday. Really one day, and also it's not

1556
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 1: even a big milestone birthday, so you shouldn't even be

1557
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 1: celebrating at all, Grimace, whatever the hell you are a

1558
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 1: taste bud. So I'm done with it. I can't believe

1559
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 1: how many ads I see for this, these creepy ads.

1560
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 4: Or he's just staring at you, Oh yeah, he's looking.

1561
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, have you have you tried to shake?

1562
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 1: No, no, of course not purple. What is it berry?

1563
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's berry flavored shake.

1564
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:41,679
Speaker 2: I don't want to shake.

1565
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 7: You can't get it anyway because there's shake machines.

1566
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 2: Always the toughest job fixing the shake machine.

1567
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 1: This guy did quite the heel turn, though, Grimace, because

1568
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 1: he used to be a bad guy. Yeah, he was

1569
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:58,640
Speaker 1: stealing people shakes. He was sort of like the Hamburging.

1570
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 1: It was sort of like one too, those two. But

1571
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 1: then he's like now he's like everybody loves him. He's

1572
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 1: a good guy.

1573
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 4: Face turned.

1574
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1575
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 1: What did I say he'll turn?

1576
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1577
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 1: The opposite. Yeah, I don't go back a new world order?

1578
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1579
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 4: What do you think he's gonna do next birthday?

1580
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 1: Kill the Hamburgler or Ron?

1581
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:23,679
Speaker 4: Maybe the ultimate he'll turn? Yeah, I see that all

1582
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 4: the time, but I I say, not interested in an

1583
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 4: ad for every other ad. But I'm Grimace through.

1584
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 1: Oh maybe that's what. Yeah, it's like infiltrated into mine.

1585
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 1: I just like it's wild. I'm seeing it on Instagram,

1586
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:41,639
Speaker 1: Twitter all the time. Happy birthday, Grimace.

1587
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 9: Get rid of those as you know why, because they

1588
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 9: know you're at McDonald's every other day.

1589
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 1: How dare you just once a week tops. He needs

1590
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 1: his nuggets on the.

1591
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 9: You might want to pick up a Grimace shake on

1592
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 9: the way.

1593
01:16:57,920 --> 01:16:59,799
Speaker 1: It was nice to see that you could get nuggets

1594
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 1: of the Grimace. Birthday meal didn't have to be a

1595
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 1: big mac. You could do nuggets and a shake of

1596
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 1: courds of course. Happy birthday to the big guy.

1597
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 4: Go ahead, birthday.

1598
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 1: What's something that's overdue for an ending? My rapid fire?

1599
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Gray's Anatomy still going?

1600
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 1: What no, no, no oh, yeah.

1601
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 2: It's still going twenty twenty seasons. Wow, just just move on,

1602
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 2: Alan Pompeo, just go do something else.

1603
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 9: That's crazy, because you guys went to tour the set

1604
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:40,559
Speaker 9: in twenty eleven when we were in LA and it

1605
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:42,640
Speaker 9: felt like it was coming to an end.

1606
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 1: Then, Yeah, we were on set, didn't you guys.

1607
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 2: I was there.

1608
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 1: I didn't know that's what the show was.

1609
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:52,559
Speaker 9: I think it was because we had a I think

1610
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 9: he still listens to the show.

1611
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 7: He worked on the show. I don't know if he

1612
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:56,799
Speaker 7: still works.

1613
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 2: On the show.

1614
01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 1: Andrew, I thought it right, I thought it Andrew, Andrew

1615
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 1: does sound right.

1616
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:06,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe it's because Sandra Oh was leaving. Maybe that's

1617
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 2: why we felt it was over.

1618
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1619
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 2: No, she lasted ten years, ten seasons. Wow, there's Trey

1620
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 2: and I both have this great table up. It's a grid.

1621
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 2: It's a grid showing you the characters and how long

1622
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 2: they were on the season.

1623
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 1: Has anybody gone the full game? Gamut?

1624
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:24,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cha Wilson, Yeah, James Pickens Junior.

1625
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 1: The names these are their characters.

1626
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 4: Miranda Bailey and Richard Weber would be the character names. Yeah,

1627
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 4: and this is interesting here. Meredith Gray namesake of Grey's Anatomy.

1628
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 4: Oh and Pompeo. Yeah, she's greened out through nineteen seasons,

1629
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 4: but season twenty TBA. You can't have Gray's Anatomy without Gray.

1630
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 4: It's because she left.

1631
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 1: Guys, do you watch this?

1632
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1633
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 4: Really done? I watch it with my wife.

1634
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 2: Is it good?

1635
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's yeah, it's okay. Yeah, it's just how I

1636
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 8: watched it at Courtney. But this past season she left,

1637
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 8: she went to Boston and then she just she still

1638
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 8: narrates the show. Yeah, but she's not on the show.

1639
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 8: She appeared like in the last that's crazy. She said

1640
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 8: she's done. She says she's done.

1641
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 2: Oh, good, good for her. She's uh so, but she

1642
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 2: still is an EP I think according Yeah, she's still produces.

1643
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:16,600
Speaker 2: I just couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it.

1644
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 4: She'll always be an ep ellen. There are some grays

1645
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 4: anatomy factoys.

1646
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 2: For you tying it to basketball. I want the Nick

1647
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 2: to replace Grays and a show, but it was only

1648
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 2: two seasons.

1649
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 1: Where did that show go?

1650
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:32,839
Speaker 2: Come on? Clive?

1651
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:37,679
Speaker 4: I mean, no spoilers, but I don't know if Clive's

1652
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 4: coming back.

1653
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 1: Oh did he get did he get canceled?

1654
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:40,440
Speaker 4: Did he No spoilers?

1655
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:43,759
Speaker 1: Okay, no spoilers. She didn't even know that one was spoilers.

1656
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 1: It's tough to keep up.

1657
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 4: Uh jad, that's overdue for an ending.

1658
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, what was my answering? Oh yeah, uh TikTok

1659
01:19:55,520 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 6: filming yourself in a car doing tiktoks? Now, I get

1660
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 6: that it's like a more intimate thing, and you know,

1661
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 6: it's a lot of people's it's their only private spot.

1662
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 7: To do it.

1663
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 9: But I suspect that more than half of those people

1664
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 9: are idling their cars, and you know how I feel

1665
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:18,639
Speaker 9: about that. Oh yeah, so get out of your cars.

1666
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 9: If you want to be an influencer, just build a

1667
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 9: studio in your garage like we did, and simple, you know,

1668
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 9: it's just yeah, it's simple, it's easy. So stop tiktoking

1669
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 9: in your cars. It's got to end.

1670
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 1: Even if they turn off the car.

1671
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 9: If you turn off the car, that's fine. But I

1672
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 9: know that these some of them are not. I can

1673
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:41,599
Speaker 9: hear it, I can hear it going, and I don't

1674
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 9: like it.

1675
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:45,759
Speaker 7: I don't like it. Your TikTok is not worth the pollution.

1676
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 2: That's all.

1677
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 1: That's for sure.

1678
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 4: That's very true.

1679
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 1: It's another thing that could end. Overdue for an ending

1680
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 1: climate change. Would be great to see what we're overdue

1681
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:56,640
Speaker 1: for that one.

1682
01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 4: Here's the more social media content. A DJ Burr to

1683
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 4: Damian Lillard by playing Wilfsmith's Miami and Whitney Houston's I

1684
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:07,879
Speaker 4: Want to Dance with Somebody during IG Live from Paris.

1685
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 4: These are both good songs. But what's a song that's

1686
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 4: on your summer playlist?

1687
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 1: Skeets, I like the Girls That Do Drugs. That's from

1688
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 1: a man Trey Kirby Girls by the Dare great song,

1689
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 1: catchy song, love that one. I would include this one,

1690
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 1: which I think came out like seven or eight months ago.

1691
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 1: I just heard it like two days ago. There's a

1692
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 1: Frank Ocean to Mia mashup. Have you heard that of

1693
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 1: Frank Ocean's Nights with So Into You from Tamiya Canadian

1694
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:38,840
Speaker 1: to mea which I is I'm pretty sure is like

1695
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 1: a Commodore sample. But anyway, it's on SoundCloud. Great summer

1696
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 1: songat Frank Ocean Knights with So Into You from Tama. Oh,

1697
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 1: it's a banger. I think it's called Knight's nineties version.

1698
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 1: Look up that. And then the final one, just because

1699
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 1: I watched the Bear every time I get in my car.

1700
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 1: I even pulled up alongside Trey Kirby the other day

1701
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 1: blasting it New Noise by the Refused, which is that

1702
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 1: song that they play in the Bear anytime it's cooking

1703
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 1: time and it's gonna get really antsy and it's a

1704
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:08,720
Speaker 1: punk song and it's got a great start to that one,

1705
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 1: So a New Noise. Those three songs are on the

1706
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:12,679
Speaker 1: summer playlist right now.

1707
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:16,680
Speaker 2: What do you got SoundCloud? Still going Yeah, as long

1708
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 2: as Gray's Anatomy, I guess still kicking it. Yeah, I

1709
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 2: just got one. You gotta treat every day in the

1710
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 2: summer like a Friday. And it was actually in the

1711
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 2: in the sort of the meme world where it's that

1712
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:35,520
Speaker 2: song it's called Friday. It's Friday, Yeah, then Saturday Sunday. Yeah,

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01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 2: it's Friday, Yeah, yeah, Saturday Sunday. What it was in

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01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 2: the meme world where I was driving and his friend

1715
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:44,639
Speaker 2: got out of the car and was driving or sorry,

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01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 2: it was dancing beside the car while the car moved.

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01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 2: So it's that song. It gets annoying, but it's a fun.

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01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:52,759
Speaker 2: It's a fun one for a bit. Friday.

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01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got a new Friday meme song.

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01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, cool kicks. Rebecca Black's ass.

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01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 4: What a legend?

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01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 2: JD?

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01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 4: What's on your playlist?

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01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 1: So his name is not JD for this question?

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01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:06,639
Speaker 9: Right?

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01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:10,759
Speaker 2: I forgot DJ scoots scooter scooter?

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01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 4: What just spin on the ones?

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01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 9: It's the same every year, Banana Rama cruel summer, so

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01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 9: hot in this city, and I'm not going anywhere in

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01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:23,679
Speaker 9: this city except for this summer, except for Las Vegas,

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01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 9: where it's even hotter. So it truly is a cruel,

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01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 9: cruel summer.

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01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 7: But I love that song.

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01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 1: It's a dry heat in Vegas, don't JD?

1735
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, way cold, it's basically cold.

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01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 2: I love that line.

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01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, We're headed to Vegas on Wednesday for some summer

1738
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 1: league fun, and my god, it's like saying like it's

1739
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 1: like one ten or something like that right now, and

1740
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 1: it's hot here. Yeah, that's even hot of there. Yep,

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01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 1: that's rapid fire. Those are some song recommendations for your

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01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 1: summer playlist. Thanks for joining us here. Like I said,

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01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:59,639
Speaker 1: we will very likely be back tonight. We'll probably jump

1744
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 1: in the street yard to recap some of the hopefully

1745
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 1: some of the big signings and news and maybe even

1746
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 1: trades from tonight's official start to NBA Free Agency. So

1747
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:12,080
Speaker 1: make sure you subscribe. I don't know what time we're

1748
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 1: going live. I don't even know if we are. We

1749
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 1: got to wait and see what happens, but it would

1750
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 1: be you know, six seven, eight o'clock tonight here on Friday.

1751
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 1: So subscribe to the podcast either on YouTube or wherever

1752
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:23,639
Speaker 1: you download and listen to us. And we will have

1753
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 1: a Fast Friends for Fast ten coming next week. You

1754
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:31,839
Speaker 1: can lock that in. Maybe when we leave for Vegas,

1755
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 1: we'll post it on that day, so potentially Wednesday, new

1756
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 1: Fast Friends is coming to this feed, So you got

1757
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 1: a few days left to watch Fast ten. You can

1758
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 1: rent it on Apple at least for nineteen ninety nine,

1759
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 1: or you can buy it for twenty four to ninety nine.

1760
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 4: Get's keep it for that's right.

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01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 1: That's right, so yeah, keep it locked on no dunks

1762
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 1: today and we will hopefully see you later. Until then, though,

1763
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:52,759
Speaker 1: Clipper bros.

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01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:55,599
Speaker 4: You heard it here first, have a great time turn up.

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01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:57,480
Speaker 4: Love you guys awesome.

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01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and remember you can rent Fast

1767
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 2: Friends for nineteen buy for twenty four nine nights. Smart

1768
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 2: very smart pricing system because if you want it, if

1769
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 2: you want to watch that movie you really want us,

1770
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 2: you're gonna pay twenty bucks. I think I think it's

1771
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 2: smart to go that high. And then the five blocks

1772
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,720
Speaker 2: extra for the crazies. I think those are just two

1773
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 2: perfect price points. I rented this.

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01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 1: I rented it yeah, to watch it a second time,

1775
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:24,639
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want this. I will never

1776
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 1: watch this again. I can't believe I'm watching it a

1777
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:29,600
Speaker 1: second time. But because podcasting is the hardest job in

1778
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:33,720
Speaker 1: the world, I will commit myself to two hours and

1779
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:37,639
Speaker 1: twenty one minutes of me and Dom and the gang

1780
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 1: watching it again to twenty one.

1781
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 2: What did it feel like? We're heroes?

1782
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 1: Felt like two fifty eight slowly and I fast forwarded

1783
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:51,800
Speaker 1: through a couple scenes. Did not need to see Letty

1784
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:55,600
Speaker 1: fight Cipher again. I will admit I didn't need to.

1785
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:58,720
Speaker 4: It's like I know what happens that when I went to.

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01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:02,639
Speaker 1: Anyway, We'll see guys later. Brace today people,