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Speaker 2: Lakers just went to Madison Square Garden and get the win.

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Speaker 2: We'll be talking a little bit about Browny later. He

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Speaker 2: was on the court tonight. We got some Bronnie takes

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Speaker 2: college hoops. John Caliperry returning to Kentucky with a team

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Speaker 2: that is currently fifteenth out of sixteen teams in the SEC.

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Speaker 3: And with about four or five minutes to go, they

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Speaker 2: We'll keep you updated on that and Jamart, We'll get

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Speaker 2: to Jmart's Royal Rumble corner here at some point point

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Speaker 3: You know, listen, probably more people watch the freaking I.

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Speaker 4: Don't need a ton I don't need a ton of

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Speaker 4: time to talk about it. But yeah, we'll get to it.

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Speaker 4: I certainly spent the last four hours watching it.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, I think it'll be fun. I

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Speaker 2: think it'll be fun. We're gonna hit on a lot

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Speaker 2: of different topics. Obviously. Look, you know, we know that

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Speaker 2: the everybody that works on these airwaves, you know, Monday

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Speaker 2: through Friday, Doug Gottlieb, Ben Ben Mall or Colin cowhard

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Speaker 2: on or not. We know that they have talked so

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Speaker 2: much about the two games from last weekend, and of

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Speaker 2: course the game that is coming up next Sunday.

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Speaker 4: I think J.

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Speaker 2: Mart is probably a little bit early, you know, probably

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Speaker 2: a little bit early to start diving too deep into

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Speaker 2: Philadelphia Casey Part two. I do think we got to

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Speaker 2: look back a little bit. And part of the reason

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Speaker 2: I want to look back, J Mart, is because it's

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Speaker 2: not only that Casey and Filu are headed to the

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Speaker 2: super Bowl, but a lot of the concerns about the

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills that we have had you and I on

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Speaker 2: this show have been largely lockstep with this team and organization.

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Speaker 2: And we saw how the game went last week, and

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Speaker 2: we've talked about it, and it's been litigated and relitigated

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Speaker 2: and discussed and rediscussed and you've heard everybody's takes, but

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Speaker 2: you and I my let me put this in.

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Speaker 3: My take on the.

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills is pretty simple. Is I think Sean McDermott

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Speaker 2: was and is an excellent coach. I also believe that

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Speaker 2: there is a ceiling that that organization can get to

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Speaker 2: with him as the head coach. And that ceiling is

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Speaker 2: whenever you play the Chiefs in a game that matters,

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Speaker 2: I don't care if you're good against them during the regular.

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Speaker 3: Season, I don't think you can beat him. And so

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Speaker 3: we go back to last Sunday.

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Speaker 2: And if this isn't your main takeaway, by the way,

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Speaker 2: take this where you want, but I'll just you know,

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Speaker 2: set it up. I was lucky enough to be filling

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Speaker 2: he takes the point off the board. Ephrom Salam immediately

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Speaker 2: that's a mistake. You don't want to be chasing points.

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Speaker 2: And I thought that was a metaphor for the Bills

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Speaker 2: But to me last week, it was not about the refs.

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Speaker 2: It was not about this, It was not about that Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: The tush push plays Buffalo, you know, the fourth down

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Speaker 2: then chasing points the rest of the way. Kansas City

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Speaker 2: deserved to win that game. Andy Reid and Steve Spagnolo

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Speaker 4: So do you remember last week when we made our

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Speaker 4: And when it comes to Josh Allen, you talk about

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Speaker 4: But anybody that tells you he played the best he's

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Speaker 4: The way he started the game was not good, like

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Speaker 4: this time of year, because it's just been that boogeyman

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Speaker 4: happened again. But that first half was not great for him.

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Speaker 4: Second half was the exact opposite he was phenomenal in

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Speaker 4: he probably makes it because for some reason, the Chiefs

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Speaker 4: the Bills don't. Not in the playoffs. This is what

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Speaker 4: And I'm just I'm not going to go to the refs.

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Speaker 4: Steve Spagnolo is probably going to be in the Hall

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Speaker 4: the greatest defensive coordinator ever to live because of how

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Speaker 4: he situationally positions his defense. We talked about this before.

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Speaker 4: In the biggest moments, his defense seems to stand up

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Speaker 4: pressure no one saw coming because it was not called

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Speaker 4: going into next Sunday, what is Spagnolo gonna hold back

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Speaker 4: a lot of time to talk about that. But I

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Speaker 4: think it's just it's the same old story. The Chiefs

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Speaker 4: whether it is the Buffalo Bills in this situation. But

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Speaker 4: I don't think that Josh Allen escapes all blame. I

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Speaker 4: don't think that it's fair to criticize him particularly strongly either,

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Speaker 4: similar to Lamar. I don't think a lot of that

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Speaker 4: a perfect football game by any stretch of the imagination,

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Speaker 4: and that argument, to me, was fallacious.

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Speaker 2: So so much dive into there, But I so I agree,

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Speaker 2: and I think, you know, it's funny because you brought

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Speaker 2: bad that I'm naming this name, but you know, if

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Speaker 2: Mark Andrews doesn't have the fumble and the drop two

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Speaker 2: so yeah, I think some of it is on Josh

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Speaker 2: the way, this isn't totally a Sean McDermott thing.

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Speaker 3: This is a system wide thing.

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Speaker 2: But again, you look, you go back to the Baltimore game,

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Speaker 2: kind of weird play calling, Josh Allen has ninety yards passing,

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Speaker 2: you know, I don't know what they were trying to prove.

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Speaker 2: And then again the game against against against k C

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Speaker 2: that is just an awful sign. It doesn't matter if

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Speaker 2: start like like, to me, maybe I'm wrong, maybe I

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Speaker 2: don't follow the Buffalo Bills closely enough. But when Sean

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Speaker 2: a penalty, I understand you're on the two yard line.

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Speaker 2: I understand that Josh Allen's this monster and in theory

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Speaker 3: But it's like, just take the point, like if this

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Speaker 2: Six against the Patriots, Like you just take the point

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Speaker 2: and you don't think anything of it, and I listen.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to diminish what Casey did because they

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Speaker 2: were the deserving winner.

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Speaker 2: Remind me a lot of the Baltimore game that you

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Speaker 2: and I have talked NonStop about in last year's AFC

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Speaker 3: And that's what it felt like with Buffalo last week.

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Speaker 3: It felt like a situation where I told you from

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Speaker 3: let's cut it to five.

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Speaker 2: And it's like it feels like every time somebody played

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Speaker 2: got to get this twenty point play that doesn't exist,

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Speaker 2: and it just it felt like everyone was out of sorts.

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Speaker 2: To your point, maybe it is unfair that I'm completely

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Speaker 2: placing blame on Sean McDermott because it wasn't Josh Allen's

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Speaker 2: finest day. It wasn't Joe Brady's finest day going away

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Speaker 2: from James Cook, all those goal line you know, those

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Speaker 2: And it just feels like everybody tries to do this

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Speaker 2: I still think the more interesting conversation is the bills here. Casey,

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Speaker 2: continue the conversation from last Sunday, and I'll say this,

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: We have a lot of football to talk about, as

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Speaker 4: he'd had enough of the talk, he'd had enough of,

433
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Speaker 4: you know, the accusation of underperformance and all of those

434
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Speaker 4: kinds of things. He just wanted to go somewhere where

435
00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,359
Speaker 4: he could just coach basketball and in some ways be

436
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 4: left alone, at least in comparison to what was happening

437
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Speaker 4: in Lexington. So I'm sure that he got a measure

438
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 4: of Catharsist tonight in that victory. But yeah, I thought

439
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 4: it was a cool story. I think it's a better

440
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Speaker 4: story because he wins. Oh yeah, especially because Kentucky's a

441
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Speaker 4: villain to everyone that's not a Kentucky fan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think even every I think, you know,

443
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Speaker 2: it's kind of similar to like it's a weird analogy,

444
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 2: but like, you know, if Ryan Day kind of knew

445
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Speaker 2: he wasn't welcome back at Ohio State, Let's say he

446
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,119
Speaker 2: doesn't make the playoff run, and then he takes like

447
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Speaker 2: the Iowa job or something, and it's like, you don't

448
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Speaker 2: even have to be an Iowa fan hypothetically in this

449
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 2: scenario to be like, wow, you know, maybe it was

450
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 2: time for them to move on. But yeah, it's still

451
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Speaker 2: pretty cool that he went in and shut them up

452
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Speaker 2: at Chew.

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Speaker 3: And so that is obviously a Ryan Day scenario that

454
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Speaker 3: we will never live.

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Speaker 2: But John Calipair, he does get the victory at rupp Aerina,

456
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 2: and I'll say this, man, I'm happy for him, you know,

457
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 2: just because it got really toxic there. And I think

458
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Speaker 2: to a point that you made, he did do a

459
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Speaker 2: lot of very good things, even if the last few

460
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Speaker 2: years admittedly didn't live up to his own standard. And

461
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Speaker 2: I think big picture, I think the fan base is

462
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 2: going to be just fine with the coach that they have,

463
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Speaker 2: but this one in Lexington is going to sting Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio ra towards Jason Martin broadcasting live from thee

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Speaker 2: tire rack dot Com studios.

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Speaker 3: Will come back.

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Speaker 2: Jmart's gonna give you an update on something else that

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Speaker 2: happened in the world of sports on Saturday night.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna have the details on Royal rumble.

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Speaker 4: Baby.

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Speaker 3: That's right. We'll discuss yes Royal rumble next.

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Speaker 2: Before we do, though, newsdesk desager tell us about how

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Speaker 2: Yukon won at Marquette today without a lottery pick.

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Speaker 3: Oh sorry, I didn't mean to steal your thunder here.

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Speaker 6: As you guys were talking about this story here the

476
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Speaker 6: Kentucky home loss and mentioning Calipari just wanted to be

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Speaker 6: a coach and left alone. I thought you were talking

478
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Speaker 6: about Chip Kelly for a second. The record, the Arkansas

479
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Speaker 6: coach was boot at Kentucky in his pregame intro and

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Speaker 6: then his team, you're right, was one and six in conference,

481
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 6: went out and won at twelfth thrank Kentucky eighty nine

482
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Speaker 6: to seventy nine.

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Speaker 3: Right now in the West.

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Speaker 6: Coast Conference, Saint Mary's nine to zero in league play,

485
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Speaker 6: trying to get to twenty and three overall, is leading

486
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Speaker 6: mid first half against Gonzaga twenty six to eighteen.

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Speaker 3: By the way.

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Speaker 6: In the ACC, Miami was zero to ten but won

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Speaker 6: at home against Notre Dame tonight. Clemson is ten and

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Speaker 6: one at ACC hoops after a win at NC State.

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Speaker 6: Victory's in the top ten for number one Auburn, number

492
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Speaker 6: two Duke, and number four ranked Alabama, but number three

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Speaker 6: Iowa State lost at home to Kansas State, which was

494
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Speaker 6: down five late first half but still won the game

495
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Speaker 6: eighty to sixty one. Top ten matchup at Tennessee went

496
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Speaker 6: to the Balls, who dominated the second half against Florida

497
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Speaker 6: sixty four forty four. The final six ranked Houston lost

498
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Speaker 6: at home in overtime eighty two eighty one to number

499
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Speaker 6: twenty two ranked Texas Tech. Houston's thirty three game home

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Speaker 6: winning streak is over. At usc the Trojans upset number

501
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Speaker 6: seven ranked Michigan State seventy to sixty four. The game

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Speaker 6: on Fox TV was at ninth rank Marquette and Yukon

503
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Speaker 6: was a winner seventy seven to sixty nine. Connecticut shot

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Speaker 6: sixty percent from the floor. At Baylor, the Bears were

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Speaker 6: trailing number eleven Kansas by twenty one late in the

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Speaker 6: first half and still beat him eighty one to seventy. Louisville,

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Speaker 6: ranked twenty first, had won ten straight games, but lost

508
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Speaker 6: at Georgia Tech today seventy seven to seventy. Oklahoma was

509
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Speaker 6: down four at the half but still beat twenty fourth

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Speaker 6: rank Vanderbilt ninety seven to sixty seven. In the NBA,

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Speaker 6: we have one late game. It's at Portland mid third quarter.

512
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Speaker 6: The Blazers lead the Phoenix Suns seventy four sixty four,

513
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Speaker 6: although Devin Booker has twenty seven points for Phoenix. The

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Speaker 6: Lakers won at New York tonight one twenty eight to

515
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Speaker 6: one twelve, ending the next five game winning streak. Lebron James,

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Speaker 6: in a triple double, had thirty three points. Washington had

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Speaker 6: lost sixteen games in a row, but it got a

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Speaker 6: victory at Minnesota today one o five, one oh three.

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Speaker 6: The Wizards on the road had been one and twenty

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Speaker 6: one road wins for Brooklyn and for Miami. For Denver

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Speaker 6: as well another triple double for Nicola Jokic in a

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Speaker 6: one oh seven, one oh four decision at Charlotte. Wins

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Speaker 6: for Utah, Indiana and Oklahoma City, which is now thirty

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Speaker 6: eight to nine after beating up Sacramento one forty four

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Speaker 6: to one ten in the NHL Winnipeg in overtime one

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Speaker 6: five to four at Washington Ottawa six nothing over Minnesota.

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Speaker 6: The Bears hired Eric b Enemy as running backs coach.

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Speaker 6: He was fired as UCLA's offensive coordinator after one season.

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Speaker 3: Of course, he had worked for Kansas City.

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Speaker 7: In the NFL for a decade.

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Speaker 3: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve the Seger.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Air tors

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tyreck dot com studios.

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541
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 2: five minutes to talk a little, Caliperry. I want to

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00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 2: give you the floor because you know you worked in wrestling,

543
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 2: you covered wrestling, and listen. I'll say this. I tell

544
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 2: you this three times a year when we talk wrestling.

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00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 2: I know nothing about it, but I know that there

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Speaker 2: is a large part of our audience.

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Speaker 3: That cares about it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how many people watch Royal Rumble, but

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing it was more than watch Lakers Nicks tonight

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Speaker 2: at Madison Square Garden. So give us the spiel on

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Speaker 2: what happened, what we need to know, why it mattered,

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00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 2: and we'll get by the way. We got plenty of NFL,

553
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Speaker 2: we got plenty of college plenty, plenty of NFL, plenty

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Speaker 2: of NBA to discuss. But as I said, I know

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Speaker 2: this is one of the signature events on the calendar,

556
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Speaker 2: So I want to give you a few minutes to chat.

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Speaker 3: A little bit about it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so before I even start, not going to spoil

559
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 4: it by telling you who won, because a lot of

560
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 4: people haven't gotten a chance to see it, and if

561
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 4: they haven't seen that, then that'll ruin it. And so

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Speaker 4: I'm going to give them the opportunity to watch that

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Speaker 4: program on their own. A lot of times I don't

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Speaker 4: good to see it live the way that I used to,

565
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 4: but I can tell you this, Netflix raise their prices

566
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 4: again this week, And the reason why this is relevant

567
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 4: to all of us is because all these streaming services

568
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 4: are starting to put themselves in a different stratosphere when

569
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Speaker 4: it comes to what is their sealing in in viewers.

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00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 4: How many people are going to subscribe to Netflix. Eventually

571
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 4: you do get to a point where there are not

572
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Speaker 4: going to be anybody left to subscribe, and so what

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Speaker 4: most people are doing now, So Severance has started on

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Speaker 4: Apple TV. For my money, maybe the best program on

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Speaker 4: television right now. So you get Apple TV until the

576
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 4: Severance season ends, and then if there's not something there,

577
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 4: then that one goes on the chopping block and you

578
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 4: go grab Hulu for only murders in the building, for example,

579
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 4: or you grab Max for whatever it's doing. The changeover

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00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 4: that we are seeing right now in streaming is the

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Speaker 4: live sports piece. This is why Netflix paid what they

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00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 4: paid to get at the NFL broadcast. This is why

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00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 4: they paid what they paid for the WWE. The WWE

584
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 4: might actually be more valuable generally to its streaming business.

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00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 4: On a yearly, you cannot get rid of Netflix basis

586
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 4: than any of the rest because there's no off season.

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00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 4: Eventually football goes away and there's an off season. Rustling

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00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 4: didn't take any weeks off. That's a new show every week.

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00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 4: They don't go through reruns. There's not a summer off

590
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Speaker 4: kind of situation. If you were a wrestling fan, you

591
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Speaker 4: must subscribe to Netflix. You cannot get Monday Night Raw anymore.

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Speaker 4: So that's the backdrop. The secondary part of this is

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Speaker 4: WWE business is red hot. There has never been more interest.

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Speaker 4: The tickets in terms of Lucas Oil Stadium, which was

595
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Speaker 4: jammed to the rafters, the interest level and tickets was

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Speaker 4: through the roof, just the entrance level, and actually watching

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Speaker 4: the product on Peacock was through the roof as well.

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00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 4: The business is as hot as it's been in certainly

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Speaker 4: since I would say the late nineties, right in there

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Speaker 4: when it fully exploded, and I think maybe the apex

601
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Speaker 4: for WWF was two thousand and one. But this Royal

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Speaker 4: Rumble was a four hour show that had four matches

603
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Speaker 4: on it. Actually it was a four hour, four and

604
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 4: a half hour show that had four matches on it.

605
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 4: The two Rumble matches both went over an hour, the

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Speaker 4: women's match that opened the show and the men's match

607
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Speaker 4: that closed the show, and then there were two matches

608
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Speaker 4: in between, and then there was a whole lot of

609
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 4: fluff a whole lot of filler, But there's just there

610
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 4: are just moments when you realize how old you are.

611
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 4: And when I Show Speed shows up in the Royal

612
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 4: Rumble as a competitor, I know who he is because

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Speaker 4: I've watched a few documentaries lately on influencers and like literally,

614
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 4: like I watched documentaries on Jake and Logan Paul this

615
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Speaker 4: week and some document because I want to know this stuff.

616
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 4: I want to understand how these people came to the

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Speaker 4: level of fame that they have and why they're talked

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Speaker 4: about in the way that they are. And so I

619
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Speaker 4: was able to go through and watch these timeines on

620
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Speaker 4: these guys and I show Speed, who had some crypto

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Speaker 4: scam and all this, He's all of a sudden in

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Speaker 4: the Royal Rumble as a part of the match, and

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Speaker 4: people are going crazy for him. And it's just I

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00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 4: was on a tex chain. Not a single person that

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00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 4: was on that chain with knew who that was. So

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00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 4: things have changed generationally, but the business as a whole

627
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 4: is just absolutely red hot. For families, children have been

628
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 4: brought back to the dance in this way. So you

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Speaker 4: had one match that was not as much for children.

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Speaker 4: A ladder match between Kevin Owens and Cody Rhodes for

631
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Speaker 4: the championship for the SmackDown Championship, the WWE Championship, and

632
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 4: it was violent and the ending of it and may

633
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Speaker 4: have actually flipped a couple of characters to some degree.

634
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Speaker 4: And there was a tag match that just kind of

635
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 4: came and went. The women's match I think may have

636
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Speaker 4: gone on a little bit too long. The first half

637
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Speaker 4: of it was not particularly good. The back half got

638
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 4: a lot better, and then Charlotte Flair came out and

639
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 4: didn't look like Charlotte Flair. It's like she has a

640
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Speaker 4: different faith. I had multiple people tell me that in

641
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 4: text messages and they were right, like, she's she's kind

642
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 4: of become the WWE's version of Courtney Cox, where she's yeah,

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Speaker 4: like that, she hasn't look the same. She's done luk

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Speaker 4: the same and she's done this before. And it's kind

645
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Speaker 4: of unfortunate because I think that like early in her career,

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Speaker 4: even before like she really was a name. I mean,

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Speaker 4: she was just she still kind of looks a little

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Speaker 4: bit like her dad, but there was more of a

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Speaker 4: natural thing. Like right now, it just doesn't feel like

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Speaker 4: it doesn't look natural when you see her, but certainly

651
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Speaker 4: she was out there in the first time that she's

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Speaker 4: been in a ring in a while. And then the

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Speaker 4: main event, you probably had the single most star studded

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Speaker 4: ring of a Royal Rumble match at one time in

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Speaker 4: the history of the WWE, and it was done by design,

656
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Speaker 4: so without telling you anything about who won the match,

657
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Speaker 4: at the same time, you had six former world champions

658
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Speaker 4: and Intercontinental Champion is one of the most decorated tag

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Speaker 4: team wrestlers of all time. All seven of these guys,

660
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Speaker 4: without any question or first ballot hall of famers, and

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Speaker 4: I don't mean like the fake WWE Hall of Fame,

662
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Speaker 4: but like they're gonna be first in the minds of

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Speaker 4: pretty much any wrestling fan that is more mainstream. There

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Speaker 4: are some that would have maybe the snobbery, like the

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep each row out kind of vote, but

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Speaker 4: most people are gonna put all of the men. You

667
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Speaker 4: had John Cena, you had Cimpunk, you had Drew McIntyre,

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Speaker 4: you had Seth Rollins, you had Roman Reigns, you had

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Speaker 4: Jay Uso. All of these guys in the ring at

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Speaker 4: the exact same time during this Royal Rumble. That's about

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Speaker 4: the Apex and in the corner just selling on the

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Speaker 4: ground was aj Styles, another former champion in Hall of Famers.

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Speaker 4: So like WWE kind of, I think they bookended this

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Speaker 4: show well in terms of it started pretty hot, then

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Speaker 4: the matches started, they just kind of happened, and then

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Speaker 4: you got to the end. And I would say the

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Speaker 4: last like fifteen to twenty minutes, especially of the Men's Rumble,

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Speaker 4: felt like something important, felt like something big, and on

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Speaker 4: a night where there weren't a whole lot of things

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Speaker 4: that would be considered surprising. Aaron, the finish of the

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Speaker 4: Royal Rumble I think surprised a lot of people. They

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Speaker 4: made a bold choice, not one that I disagree with,

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Speaker 4: by the way, but they made a bold choice that

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Speaker 4: will be that will be talked about because the winner

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Speaker 4: of the Rumble goes on to main event, one of

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Speaker 4: the Knights of WrestleMania. And this would not have necessarily

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Speaker 4: been I think, near the top of people's list, but

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Speaker 4: I think it's an interesting choice. So I'll leave it

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Speaker 4: there just to avoid spoiling the not the best Rumble

690
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Speaker 4: show I've ever seen, but definitely some things to like,

691
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Speaker 4: and you can just see WWE's business model is through

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Speaker 4: the roof. The only thing I'm tired of is Pat McAfee.

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Speaker 4: But that's been true for a very long time.

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Speaker 2: I didn't really fully digest everything there, but I heard Netflix,

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Speaker 2: cmpunk at Pat McAfee.

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Speaker 3: I know all of those things.

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Speaker 2: And also John No and in all seriousness, you know,

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Speaker 2: like you said, Lucas oil was packed tonight. And I

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Speaker 2: know the passion that many of our listeners have for this.

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Speaker 2: So I appreciate Jamart uh talking talking uh some some

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Speaker 2: royal rumble here on a busy Saturday night. I got

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Speaker 2: my college hoops. J Mark got his royal rumble. Tell

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Speaker 2: you what we will come back. And I do have

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Speaker 2: a question as we start to look ahead to next

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl and if one person if he has already

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Speaker 2: changed the perception of him, and if not, if it

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Speaker 2: will change forever with a win Next Sunday.

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Speaker 3: That's next Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Eric Tords, Jason Martin broadcasting live from the tire rack

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Speaker 2: dot Com studios. So jmart open the show with the NFL.

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Speaker 2: We'll have a lot more NFL here as the show

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Speaker 2: goes on. Kind of just want to what I want

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Speaker 2: to do, really is you know, I don't really think

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Speaker 2: it's a little early to look ahead to next week.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna steal a segment though, from VJ. Husky and

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Speaker 2: Martin Weis, who were on before us. You can obviously

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Speaker 2: hear VJ and Husky of and Martin excuse me eight

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Speaker 2: to eleven Eastern time, five to eight Pacific every Saturday.

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Speaker 2: But they were kind of talking about Nick Sirianni and

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Speaker 2: obviously second Super Bowl in second Super Bowl appearance in

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Speaker 2: three years, Like, what is the stat like highest winning

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Speaker 2: percentage you know, I think ever in Eagles history to

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Speaker 2: this point. I know it's early, and I think he's

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Speaker 2: got like one of the highest winning percentages ever through

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Speaker 2: X number of games. And so I just bring it

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Speaker 2: up because just such like a fascinating character in my opinion,

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Speaker 2: and I am curious just like what the conversations about

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Speaker 2: him will be if Philadelphia does win next week, because

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Speaker 2: you know, this is a guy that you know has

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Speaker 2: been maligned. You see him yelling at fans, He's kind

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Speaker 2: of been weird with the media. Basically they you know,

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Speaker 2: there was real talk that they were gonna fire him

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Speaker 2: last offseason. They fired both coordinators. In my understanding is

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Speaker 2: essentially he didn't get to pick the coordinators that are

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Speaker 2: working with them. Yet here we are, second Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: in three years. I don't really even know. Oh and

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00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 2: by the way, there's all sorts of noise. You know,

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Speaker 2: aj Brown in the middle of a winning streak, is

741
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Speaker 2: complaining about his touches, but they just keep winning. Has

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Speaker 2: your opinion it all change on Nick Sirianni or is

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Speaker 2: this just you know, the sum of the parts is

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00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 2: so good that it doesn't really matter who's in charge.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that it's gonna change because I think

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Speaker 4: the narrative on Nick Sirianni is already in in the

747
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Speaker 4: minds of a lot of people, and it's going to

748
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 4: take a lot to change that. Like, if the Rams win,

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Speaker 4: even if they have a ridiculous roster, Sean McVay is

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Speaker 4: going to get a lot of credit for it, because

751
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Speaker 4: the narrative is already in on Sean McVay. Like we

752
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 4: already kind of feel like we know what Sean McVay is,

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Speaker 4: and how special he is as a coach, and how

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Speaker 4: he schemes offenses and just how he motivates players and

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Speaker 4: all of these other kinds of things. And this is true,

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Speaker 4: you know throughout time, until we get new information to

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Speaker 4: change that, it's hard to make us think that Sean

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Speaker 4: McVay doesn't know what he's doing. Well. The problem for

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Speaker 4: Nick Sirianni is that first year he came on the scene,

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Speaker 4: he was very blustery, he was very boisterous, puffed out

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Speaker 4: his chest. They end up going to the Super Bowl. Quickly,

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Speaker 4: they lose that game. Hurts got a ton of credit.

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Speaker 4: Hurts ends up getting paid as a result of it,

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Speaker 4: as a matter of fact, but Jalen Hurt's got a

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Speaker 4: ton of credit because he technically outplayed Patrick Mahomes in

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Speaker 4: that game even though they lost, Like Hurts was outstanding

767
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Speaker 4: in that football game. Then you looked at the talent

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Speaker 4: around and you're like, okay, there's a lot of talent here.

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Speaker 4: These two coordinators then leave and they go become head

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Speaker 4: coaches and then the team flops. They have honestly, they

771
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Speaker 4: have the Super Bowl hangover that a lot of losers do,

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Speaker 4: especially coming out of the NFC that we've seen historically,

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Speaker 4: and a lot of that fell on Sirianni, and I

774
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Speaker 4: don't know he's been able to shake it, because even

775
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Speaker 4: this year. I remember text messages from you.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about this today, yep, that I agree about,

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Speaker 2: Like during the Saints game that if they find a

778
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: way to lose this game, he may not keep his

779
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: job because of multiple management decisions that he made.

780
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Speaker 4: Time management decisions, clock management, just common sense decisions that

781
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 4: made no sense the Sirianni did. So let's say they

782
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Speaker 4: go win the Super Bowl. I find a hard I

783
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 4: find it hard to believe that the narrative on Monday

784
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Speaker 4: is going to be the brilliance of Nick Sirianni. I

785
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 4: would say you're probably gonna get one of three narratives,

786
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Speaker 4: and probably all three if they're able to win. The

787
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Speaker 4: defense was unbelievable, especially you know Bomb and just some

788
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Speaker 4: of those guys just playing out of their minds say

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Speaker 4: Kwon Barkley could and maybe should be the MVP and

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00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 4: proved it again based on a couple of big time

791
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Speaker 4: runs that he rips off in that game. Or jyalhen

792
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 4: Hurts has remerged because we saw in the AFC Championship

793
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Speaker 4: game when they threw the ball a little bit more

794
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 4: against Washington, he was really good in that football game.

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Speaker 4: It's like, Okay, maybe this guy is back to being

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Speaker 4: unlocked a little bit. Maybe the handcuffs are off and

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00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 4: he's able to really go out there and show what

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Speaker 4: he can do again. I think those are going to

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Speaker 4: be the three storylines. Unfortunately for Nick Sirianni. I don't

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Speaker 4: think this is gonna be enough win or lose to

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Speaker 4: change how most people perceive him.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll say this is that one. I think revisiting

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00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 2: those potential narratives will be fun. Maybe an hour three

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00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 2: will leave you know, Brady versus Mahomes if Mahomes wins

805
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 2: to literally every other sports talk radio show in America.

806
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 2: And I do want to revisit those because I think

807
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 2: there's a couple interesting things there, and I do agree,

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Speaker 2: I think it'd be interesting. I mean, I don't think

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Speaker 2: there's anything Sirianni can do to make people be like wow,

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00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 2: you know, look at Sirianni. It's just gonna be like,

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Speaker 2: if they score forty points, it's gonna be Jalen Hurts

812
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 2: and Kellen Moore and good luck. And if it's the defense,

813
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 2: and it's gonna be Jayalen Carter and Fangio and all

814
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: that good stuff. So we'll revisit that in hour three

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Speaker 2: because I do think there's still a lot of meat

816
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Speaker 2: on that bone. But I'm with you. I think it's

817
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 2: an interesting conversation. I don't know how much changes for

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Speaker 2: Sirianni even if the Eagles win Super Bowl Sunday. Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Era Tors, Jason mart We are broadcasting live

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Speaker 2: we come back, we're gonna talk about the topic. Everybody

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Speaker 2: is Bronny. That's next. Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: lot more to cover here until we are off air again.

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Speaker 2: We are on until too a m. Eastern time. All right,

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Speaker 2: g mart uh So, no more football till Sunday.

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Speaker 4: Uh, hey man, we got the Pro Bowl Pro Bowl games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll say this before we get into the hard

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Speaker 2: hitting Brownie James topic. I'm very confused by the Pro

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Speaker 2: Bowl games because I turn on TV yesterday and I

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Speaker 2: saw like Dan Arlofsky throwing some footballs, and I saw

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Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield on my TV, and so I assumed that

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Speaker 2: was the Pro Bowl game. So you're telling me there's

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Speaker 2: more Pro Bowl games tomorrow and.

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Speaker 4: Those as already happened. Maybe all of it's already happened.

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Speaker 4: I saw some of that stuff. I thought it. Maybe

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Speaker 4: it actually has already happened. I don't know, Like if

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00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 4: no one's paying attention to it doesn't matter when it

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00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 4: doesn't happen.

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Speaker 2: The Pro Bowl games are the football NBA Cup. It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's a thing. That's still a thing, right Is that

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Speaker 2: going on?

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Speaker 4: Pro Bowl Game Sunday? Two pm?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Wow?

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Speaker 4: Central time? So three Eastern?

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, Well I'll make sure my schedules rearranged. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I gotta yeah, I'll be very excited to see. Uh.

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Speaker 3: I don't know who's there. I think Baker. I saw

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Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield, so he's there.

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Speaker 4: Golf NFC eyeing Pro Bowl games three.

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Speaker 3: Pt Oh wow, that's big.

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Speaker 4: Got to make you feel good, lines fan, What.

862
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 3: Is that like throwing a ball into a tire? I

863
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 3: don't I don't know.

864
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 4: I thought that was a Levecher commercial, but I'm not.

865
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 4: I mean it was yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah there. But

866
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure that's something I've seen in various ads

867
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 4: for certain products. I don't even know exactly what it is,

868
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 4: like what about yeah right, I mean, but that's a

869
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 4: place you can actually see it, unlike Super Bowl. Yeah.

870
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 4: I don't even know what what actual games are played

871
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 4: during the Pro Bowl games tomorrow either, Like it doesn't

872
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 4: I don't even see a list of events. I'll go

873
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 4: ahead and just spoil this for everybody. Probably not going

874
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 4: to watch, like probably not going to be a breakdown

875
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 4: of that next week on the program.

876
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,919
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I don't know. I don't know that we'll

877
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 3: spend too much time on it.

878
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 2: Talking about things that really shouldn't be a story, but

879
00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 2: apparently still Arene James of course out loud, let's stuck

880
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: Bronnie James. And that's the exact that's the exact conversation.

881
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 4: So it was.

882
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 3: It was a busy busy week in Bronnie James world.

883
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 2: And you know I will open this by opening it

884
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 2: the way we open every Bronnie James conversation. Neither j

885
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 2: mart or I are rooting against him, but his father

886
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 2: has largely made him into a laughing stock. And by

887
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 2: the way, I don't just blame his father, which you're

888
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: going to get into in a minute, but Bronnie James

889
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 2: busy Week appeared in a game in Philadelphia. JJ Reddick

890
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: basically had to apologize for it afterwards. He essentially said,

891
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,479
Speaker 2: you know, he was just playing in the g League.

892
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 2: We rushed him off the bench. He wasn't really ready.

893
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 2: And if you were listening in the break, Dan Patrick

894
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 2: was talking about how Tyrese Maxi basically made him a

895
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 2: personal practice dummy for lack of a better term. So

896
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 2: that was on Tuesday, Tonight Saturday. He actually did get

897
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 2: two minutes at the Garden against the New York Knicks.

898
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 2: But it was what happened in Washington on Thursday night

899
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 2: in a blowout Lakers win that caught my attention. Producer,

900
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 2: you didn't play the sound.

901
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 3: He goes.

902
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 5: Unless standing ovation stand standing ovation. That time, he did

903
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 5: get the defender to rush at him and good absorbing,

904
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 5: absorbing the contact and keeping your concentration on the target.

905
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 3: That's a real nice play by Bronni. Go ahead play

906
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 3: the next sounding in.

907
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 7: It really is.

908
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 3: Everywhere we go. We're not kidding everywhere we.

909
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 2: So that was Bronnie James in Washington on Thursday night one.

910
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 2: You hear the announcer is basically treating him like the

911
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 2: last kid on the bench. That was the well, I

912
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:55,919
Speaker 2: mean he is literally the last kid on the bench,

913
00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: but basically the the team manager that gets a uniform

914
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 2: senior day making a layup.

915
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 3: That was what that sounded like.

916
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 2: Then you heard the MVP chance j mart I believe

917
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 2: there is somebody to blame in this whole mess. I

918
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: will get into it in a minute, but I feel bad.

919
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 2: He's turned into a laughingstock, you know, the MVP thing.

920
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 2: I think I think the fans were trying to cheer

921
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 2: him on. I don't think it was intended to be condescending,

922
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 2: but it was. But you listen to those announcers talk

923
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 2: about a made layup again, it felt like the team

924
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 2: manager that gets a uniform on the final day of

925
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: the season.

926
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, look, this is this is what it is. Because

927
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 4: it's a sideshow. It's not a real thing. Like it

928
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 4: is a real thing. It is a thing that we

929
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 4: are having to watch, and it is a thing that

930
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 4: is actually taking place. But everybody understands this thing is

931
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 4: a wax museum. It's not an actual, like living, breathing entity.

932
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 4: And I don't mean Brownie James as a whole. I

933
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 4: mean this situation, this scenario. He is a human being.

934
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 4: He is a young man who we said this when

935
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 4: it happened. This is just unfortunate for him because there's

936
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 4: not really a win here. There's just not because again,

937
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 4: similar like the narrative's already in, Like I don't know

938
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 4: how you overcome this unless he turns out to be

939
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 4: an unbelievable basketball player and let's just let's just make

940
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 4: it real. That's not gonna happen because I just don't

941
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 4: think he's good enough. And he hasn't even had like

942
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 4: the kind of growth experience you would want, Like he

943
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 4: had the thirty one point explosion in that one G

944
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 4: League game and then like right after that he gets

945
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 4: called up to the Lakers, And you will never convince

946
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 4: me that JJ Reddick's the one who made that decision.

947
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 4: But either way when he gets the chant. Let's say,

948
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 4: there are some of the people that were standing up

949
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 4: chanting and cheering for Browny. Legitimately they just felt good

950
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 4: for him. But at the same time, you still feel

951
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 4: good for the team manager getting the ring at the

952
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 4: end of the season or whatever like that. In high school,

953
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 4: Like the analogy you just made, it's similar to all

954
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 4: of that kind of thing. It's the senior who can't

955
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 4: get off the bitch, who everybody loves, who's been at

956
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 4: every practice, who's a great teammate, all this kind of stuff,

957
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 4: great encourager, He's gonna go on to do great things

958
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 4: in school and all this, and he gets in in

959
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 4: the final game of a senior day because they're blowing

960
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 4: out somebody, and he comes in and he has a

961
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 4: layup or a block or something like that, and everybody

962
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 4: goes absolutely nuts for him. And it's similar to that,

963
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 4: and that's just not the way it should be for

964
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 4: a Brownie. James, and there are I'm looking forward to

965
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 4: hearing who it is that you want a place to

966
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 4: blame on, But I mean, I think that there's pie

967
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 4: at blame here. There are multiple people that are to

968
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 4: blame for this situation. But the thing that I thought

969
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 4: of during all of this during the week when he

970
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 4: came in for first quarter minutes and then they end

971
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 4: up losing that game, and then of course you mentioned

972
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 4: what happened on Thursday, and then even getting in there. Now,

973
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 4: it's just like, what favors are you doing him by

974
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 4: him being called up and being a part of the

975
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 4: main roster. There's absolutely nobody that believes that it is

976
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 4: done by any merit at all. We should be in

977
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 4: a merit based society, and that's the exact opposite of it.

978
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 4: It doesn't put Bronny in a good light. It's going

979
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 4: to create drama on the positives and the negatives, and

980
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 4: it's going to create I would say, animosity from the

981
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 4: guys in the G League who are watching that, like

982
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 4: that's ridiculous. So there's just a number of issues here.

983
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 4: So where are you placing the blame?

984
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 3: So yeah, so where I place the blame.

985
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 2: I'll go back to a lot of the conversations that

986
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 2: we had around the draft is that I actually want

987
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 2: I feel bad for Brownie. But two, I don't really

988
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 2: blame Lebron. I think Lebron, like any parent, is always

989
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 2: going to do what is best for their kid. Now,

990
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 2: I do wonder if he knew that it was going

991
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 2: to be this bad, that his son would basically turn

992
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 2: into a meme, if he maybe would have done it different.

993
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 2: Who I blame for this debacle is the media, point blank,

994
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: end of story. Because anyone with a brain that didn't

995
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: have their head up clutches you know what, and Lebron's

996
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 2: you know what saw that this was a total sham

997
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 2: from the beginning, and even during the NBA draft process

998
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 2: last year, it was well, you know, I mean, he

999
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 2: was a McDonald's All American and he had cardiac arrest

1000
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 2: and dah dah, dah. And listen, the cardiac arrest was scary.

1001
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 2: Nobody is saying that that wasn't scary and that we're

1002
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 2: not happy that, you know, he's back playing basketball. But

1003
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 2: he came back, I believe, in late December, early January,

1004
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 2: by the way, if we're being honest, and I give

1005
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 2: credit to Doug Gottlieb, the only person on this network

1006
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 2: that said it. The McDonald you know, people like, well,

1007
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: he was a McDonald's All American. McDonald's Americans get drafted

1008
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 2: the secon round every time. That was a sham too,

1009
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 2: And I you know, I'm not gonna pull up to

1010
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: twenty four to seven rankings, but you know, basically he

1011
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 2: was deemed like the seventh, eighth, ninth, best player justin California,

1012
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,959
Speaker 2: and it was like, you know, you go to where

1013
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 2: he was ranked as a senior, that generally ends up

1014
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 2: being a guy that plays three four years in college

1015
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 2: and has no real NBA impact. And so I blame

1016
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 2: the media because we never had a serious conversation about it.

1017
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 2: By the way, I remember Draft Day watching the draft.

1018
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 2: For some reason, the second round was separate, but it

1019
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 2: was like one in the afternoon, I can't remember. And

1020
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 2: steven A and Woj and Wolch is doing great things

1021
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 2: now in the college space, but steven A and Woj

1022
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 2: are lecturing the audience. Well, you know, if you're if

1023
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 2: you're blaming nepotism, you're part of the problem. There's nepotism everywhere,

1024
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 2: and it's like, well, yeah, but most nepotism doesn't occur

1025
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 2: in jobs where there's only four hundred and fifty of

1026
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 2: those jobs in the world.

1027
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 3: Like, you know, a.

1028
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 2: Dad getting his kid a job at a big corporation

1029
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 2: to get his foot in the door is not the

1030
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 2: same as there's only sixty players that get drafted every year.

1031
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 2: There's only four hundred and fifty players in the NBA,

1032
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 2: and so it was always a sham. And then to

1033
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 2: continue the conversation, we know, we go back to Opening night.

1034
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 2: I tweeted out, this is a total sham, and I

1035
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 2: thought it was just common sense and everybody would agree

1036
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:04,240
Speaker 2: with it, and ninety percent of the reaction was like, wow, hater,

1037
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 2: enjoy the moment. This is historic. We have to celebrate it.

1038
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 2: And it's like, I'm happy for lebron, I'm happy for Bronni.

1039
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 2: It's a cool moment for them. But it's a total sham,

1040
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 2: you know. It's like I think we joked about it

1041
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 2: at the time. Maybe we did it, maybe it was

1042
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 2: in a private text chain, but it's like, why doesn't

1043
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 2: he just, you know, get his wife on the team

1044
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 2: that we could have the first husband, wife and son

1045
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 2: in NBA history playing on the same team, Because it's

1046
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 2: the same thing when Lebron hasn't or when Bronni hasn't

1047
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 2: earned his spot there. And so I blame the media

1048
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 2: because if we had a real conversation about this from

1049
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 2: the beginning, we wouldn't be in this situation where we

1050
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 2: now have to pretend halfway through the season that this

1051
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: is still a real story and Bronni wouldn't be a meme.

1052
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 2: If we just called it out around the draft and

1053
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 2: didn't make excuses for why he averaged whatever it was,

1054
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 2: two point eight points per game or whatever at USC

1055
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 2: maybe we wouldn't be in this situation. So I blame

1056
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 2: the media more than anything. Lebron's always gonna do what

1057
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 2: he thinks is best for him his son, even if

1058
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 2: it probably wasn't in hindsight, and I to me, I

1059
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 2: blame the media on this.

1060
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 4: All right, So I agree with that. I think that

1061
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:13,479
Speaker 4: one of the more kind of preposterous things that we've

1062
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 4: seen is this like spin from ESPN doing what you

1063
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 4: just said, lecturing everybody on all of that, to now

1064
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 4: acting the opposite, like they flipped on Bronnie. They flipped

1065
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 4: on all of that, They flipped on the experiment. You

1066
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,280
Speaker 4: have them, you know, coming out and saying the things

1067
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 4: that we already knew were true from the beginning and

1068
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,959
Speaker 4: acting as if that's somehow like some kind of take

1069
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 4: that we should take seriously. After they're the ones that

1070
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 4: led the charge in the opposite direction. Like you cannot look,

1071
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 4: you do not, under any circumstances choose to, you know,

1072
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 4: drop something on us and tell us its raining, for

1073
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 4: lack of a better word, like we all knew what

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00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 4: was going down at the time. Nobody just saw prize

1075
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 4: that this has gone this way. You talked about how

1076
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 4: Lebron wanted to do the best for his son. I

1077
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 4: remember us having this conversation, and we both agreed with that,

1078
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 4: and he said that's laudable. We also thought he was

1079
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 4: wrong because we didn't think it was the best thing

1080
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 4: for his son, because of what we knew was going

1081
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 4: to come towards his son as a direct result of this.

1082
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 4: So ultimately it was like, are you doing what's best

1083
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 4: for your son if you really stop and think about this,

1084
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 4: or are you just thinking about the moment where you

1085
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 4: two were wearing the same uniform on the same floor

1086
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,280
Speaker 4: at the exact same time. You have that one moment

1087
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 4: in time. Problem is it was choreographed. It was a

1088
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 4: photo shopped photo in the parlance of a moment that

1089
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,399
Speaker 4: actually should have happened. It's just not something that made

1090
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,919
Speaker 4: any sense. It's not something we were ever gonna take

1091
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 4: as genuine as a genuine article and that's where it was.

1092
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 4: But we were told, you say lecture, that's really right.

1093
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 4: We were almost chastised, and we were sort of like, look, no,

1094
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 4: you bow down. I'm going to beat you down until

1095
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 4: you understand that you're in the wrong. If you don't

1096
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 4: accept this, Bronnie could turn out to be good. Bronnie. This, this, this,

1097
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 4: this and this, and it's just like, now some of

1098
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 4: these exact same people are saying the obvious, and they're

1099
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 4: even coming out and suggesting things about Lebron's camp and

1100
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 4: how they've been talked to and all this other kind

1101
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 4: of stuff. It's like, these are not the things that

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00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 4: you were saying even four months ago. These are not

1103
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 4: the things you were saying six months ago. So don't

1104
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,240
Speaker 4: now come to me as if you should be taken

1105
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 4: seriously or you have some brand of integrity when it

1106
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 4: comes to this story when it was very obvious that

1107
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 4: you were astro turfed originally and now you're just saying

1108
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 4: the thing you were afraid to say originally.

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00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 3: I totally agree. It's always been a sham.

1110
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 2: And listen one again for a thousand of time, I

1111
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 2: don't put this on Bronnie.

1112
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 4: Two.

1113
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 2: I am glad people are coming around to it. But

1114
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 2: it's like again, and this is probably a bigger conversation

1115
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 2: about the media and mainstream media and how things are covered.

1116
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 2: But it's like, you know, and by the way I

1117
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,760
Speaker 2: think and maybe we do this conversation after the break,

1118
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 2: is that you know, Adam Silver is now making all

1119
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 2: sorts of crazy proposals, and I think it speaks to

1120
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 2: the fact that the NBA is kind of a mess

1121
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 2: right now, you know. And I don't think the media

1122
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 2: that covers them covers them. How do I say this?

1123
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 2: Not unbiasedly, but I don't think. I don't think the

1124
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 2: media is asking the tough questions that they should be.

1125
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 2: And I think Bronni is a metaphor for that.

1126
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 3: Tell you what.

1127
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,720
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio aeron Taurus, Jason Martin will come back.

1128
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 2: Do want to go ahead and talk to Sager? All right,

1129
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 2: so are we doing this?

1130
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 7: Let's couch it this way.

1131
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 6: There's breaking news in the NBA and one guy has it.

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00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 3: It looks like a hack.

1133
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 2: To me, Ja mart you're gonna you're not on Twitter,

1134
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 2: so you're about to hear something crazy. I wasn't going

1135
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 2: to share it because it felt like a hack. But

1136
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 2: to Seger, absolutely, but go ahead, go ahead, Okay, So

1137
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 2: Seam Sharania works for ESPN. Now it is his official site,

1138
00:55:59,480 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 2: and i'll.

1139
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:01,800
Speaker 3: His official Twitter account.

1140
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,720
Speaker 6: That's correct, and I will just read what he says.

1141
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 6: The Dallas Mavericks are trading Luka Doncich to the Lakers

1142
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 6: for Anthony Davis. Now, the Lakers just finished up a game.

1143
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 6: We know the trade deadline is coming up in the

1144
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 6: next week. We are awaiting somebody else to have this story,

1145
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 6: but that would be shocking.

1146
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 4: There's no way. Yes, well that's what I'm gonna say now,

1147
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 4: and you can. You can go ahead and mark that

1148
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 4: and time stamp it or whatever if it turns out

1149
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 4: to be right. But there's no reason I should believe

1150
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 4: that's true.

1151
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 2: All I'll say is I saw it about three minutes ago,

1152
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 2: and I immediately said to producer Ian, should I run

1153
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 2: with this? And then we got it over to Disager

1154
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 2: and I think we handled it properly. We are reading

1155
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 2: a Sham's tweet verbatim, and.

1156
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 3: I would have to assume that it's hacked.

1157
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 4: Uh.

1158
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,439
Speaker 2: If not, I don't think we're gonna be talking very much,

1159
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:57,919
Speaker 2: you know, Pro Bowl games the rest of the show.

1160
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 2: So I actually did just tech Mark Medina to see

1161
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 2: if he has any information, and uh, we're just gonna

1162
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 2: monitor this. But yes, as de Seger just told you, Shamstrania,

1163
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 2: who is the biggest news breaker in the NBA, from

1164
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 2: his official Twitter account, has put out news of a

1165
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 2: breaking trade involving Luka, Doncic to the Lakers, Anthony Davis

1166
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 2: to the MAVs.

1167
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 4: Man people are picking this up, like, so I so

1168
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 4: this is how I kind of engage with Twitter. Now,

1169
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 4: I still have my account, but I just go to

1170
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 4: Google and I'll put in a story and it'll bring

1171
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 4: me up you know, post on x from various people

1172
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 4: and stuff, so I'll be able to kind of see

1173
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 4: sort of what's happening in the moment with some of

1174
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 4: this kind of stuff. A lot of people are running

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00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 4: with this. I'm not saying people that we need to

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00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 4: to source. I'm just saying there are a lot of

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00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 4: people that saw that and that was enough for them

1178
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 4: to say, this is the biggest trade we've ever seen.

1179
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 4: And all this other kind of stuff.

1180
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 7: From San is detailing.

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00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, the first sentence is yes, this is real

1182
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 6: sources to l ESPN and the full trade is Lakers

1183
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 6: getting Luka Donzig, Maxi kleeber Markkeith Morris, on and on.

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00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 3: I will tell you this. I am on ESPN dot

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00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 3: com right now. There is nothing on ESPN dot com,

1186
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 3: so we are monitoring a potential.

1187
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 4: This is this is crazy to say.

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00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 2: I'm just glad you're here right now because you're pro's

1189
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 2: pro and ESPN just broken Okay.

1190
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 4: Well they broke it on the website, on.

1191
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 6: The ESPN TV, so unless that was also ACKed.

1192
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 4: TV, because I think they might break in the coverage.

1193
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 3: They would have to.

1194
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's uh, we're gonna continue to monitor this. Tell

1195
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 2: you what, We'll come back. As the sager just told you,

1196
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 2: Shams Trania has tweeted that there is a breaking trade

1197
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 2: involving Luka Doncic to the Los Angeles Lakers with Anthony

1198
00:58:54,520 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 2: Davis going to the Dallas Mavericks. We're if this is true,

1199
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 2: We're in as much shock as anybody. We're hoping to

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00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 2: get some sort of confirmation from someone another reporter of

1201
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:11,919
Speaker 2: some sort, but this would certainly qualify as breaking news.

1202
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 2: And as de Seger just said, ESPN's official Twitter account

1203
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 2: has now put something out. Give us a second. We're

1204
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 2: gonna take a deep breath and We're gonna figure out

1205
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 2: all the details. We might have a lot to discuss

1206
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 2: here over the next couple hours. Er Torris Jason Martin,

1207
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 2: this is Fox Sports Radio.

1208
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody.

1209
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Er Torris Jason Martin, broadcasting live from

1210
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 2: the tiraq dot Com Studios. Jmart I don't think it's hyper.

1211
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 2: First of all, I love working the shift because you

1212
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 2: never know what's gonna pop up.

1213
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 3: The biggest, I would.

1214
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 2: Argue, breaking news thing that has ever happened during this

1215
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 2: time slot. I've been here since twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen.

1216
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 2: Antonio Brown did get traded to the Las Va Vegas Raiders,

1217
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 2: or maybe they were the Oakland Raiders at the time.

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01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 2: I bring it up because we have quite literally maybe

1219
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 2: maybe not literally. I think we are talking maybe one

1220
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 2: of the biggest trades in NBA.

1221
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 3: History just happened.

1222
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 2: Absolutely before the break Disager told you that there was

1223
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 2: a Shams Tarania tweet Shams Tirania of ESPN. The Dallas

1224
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 2: Mavericks are trading Luka Dancic, Maxi, Kleeber, and Mark Keith

1225
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 2: Morris to the Los Angeles Lakers for Anthony Davis, Max

1226
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 2: Christi and a twenty twenty nine first round pick. We

1227
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 2: thought it was a hack. We thought it was fake

1228
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 2: while we were in break. The report has since been

1229
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 2: confirmed by Chris Haynes and has been confirmed by Mark Stein,

1230
01:00:55,560 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 2: who lives in Dallas and began his career covering the Maverick.

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01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 3: This is real.

1232
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 2: It is spectacular, to quote Seinfeld, I mean, listen, the

1233
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 2: world is stunned. I feel bad for people that are

1234
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 2: in bed at twelve thirty Eastern time that are going

1235
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 2: to be waking up to this news. I don't think

1236
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 2: it's hyperbole to say this is quite possibly the biggest

1237
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 2: It's the biggest NBA trade of my lifetime.

1238
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 3: Ah, where do we go? Jmart, where do we go?

1239
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 3: Where do we go?

1240
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 4: Dude? I don't know. Like I it had to have

1241
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 4: been fake because it was such a ridiculously big trade

1242
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 4: and there was not a soul that I had ever

1243
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 4: heard mentioned exactly ever, Like I just found an article

1244
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 4: about Luca and how the Spurs might be willing to

1245
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 4: wager everything to try and get Luca, but not the Lakers,

1246
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 4: Like that was never even I mean, Luca leading Dallas

1247
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 4: was not even a thing. And so now it's here.

1248
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 4: I don't even know what we're supposed to say about

1249
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 4: it right now, because essentially, Luca is your future. Luca

1250
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 4: you know what he did in Dallas and what he

1251
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 4: was going to do. You know who Luka Doncic is.

1252
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 4: He could be box office on the floor and all

1253
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 4: of those kinds of things. Lebron's not going to play forever,

1254
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 4: but you have a moment now where you still have

1255
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 4: Lebron playing it in a very high level at forty

1256
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 4: and now you bring in this guy who sets the

1257
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 4: stage for your franchise a whole lot longer than Anthony

1258
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 4: Davis would at this point. But I think the thing

1259
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:36,200
Speaker 4: that I'm baffled by most, just initially, so the Jazz

1260
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 4: are involved too. It's a three team trade to make

1261
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 4: this work, okay, but the MAVs get Anthony Davis, Max Christi,

1262
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 4: and a first round pick from the Lakers in twenty

1263
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 4: twenty nine. How in the world is that worth? Luka Doncic.

1264
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 4: And if you're like, if you're the Dallas Mavericks, what

1265
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 4: are you doing? I think that's the biggest thing. Like,

1266
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 4: I understand why you'd want to acquire, especially if you're

1267
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 4: the Lakers, but what is Dallas doing here or what

1268
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 4: are they signaling by doing this, Like what don't we know?

1269
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:12,919
Speaker 4: Great question about Luka Doncic in Dallas that would lead

1270
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 4: to something like this even being feasible.

1271
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 2: So that was that was kind of my exact question.

1272
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 2: And I'm not being sarcastic and I'm not trying to

1273
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 2: be funny. Is there something about Luca that we don't

1274
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 2: know about that?

1275
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 4: Right?

1276
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 2: And even if there is, what did it create a

1277
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 2: red flag for the Lakers? So Luca of course last year?

1278
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 2: To your point, nothing about this makes sense. Luka Doncic

1279
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 2: just led the map. Did I miss what? Were they

1280
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:41,919
Speaker 2: not in the finals last year?

1281
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 4: Yeah? I'm pretty sure they were.

1282
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 2: They were in the finals last year and he was

1283
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 2: the star and yeah, you know, win Horse kind of

1284
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 2: criticized and said, you need to lose some weight to

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Speaker 2: get to the next level. And I know the MAVs

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01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 2: aren't playing that well right now, twenty six and twenty three,

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01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 2: ninth place in the West. But to your point, I

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Speaker 2: mean what I'm trying to figure out.

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Speaker 4: But he had missed some time too, Yeah, like there

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01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 4: were some different things that happened. Man, Man, you can't

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01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 4: catch a break if you're at in silver because tomorrow

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01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 4: was supposed to be MAVs Calves, the Calves and one

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Speaker 4: of the hottest teams in the league. And I do

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01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 4: because I just saw that Luka Doncic is now out

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01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 4: for tomorrow's game against Cleveland. Like, yeah, I'm sure he is.

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Speaker 4: If he's just been traded for people.

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01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 2: Just joining us, we have a trade in the NBA.

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01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 2: It involves and this is no sarcasm, Shampstrania, Chris Haynes,

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01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 2: Mark Stein, every big reporter on the planet. Luka Doncic

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01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 2: is going to the Los Angeles Lakers, Anthony Davis is

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01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 2: headed to the Dallas Mavericks. Yeah, I mean this is

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01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 2: you know, I don't I can't think of anything quite

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01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 2: like this. I mean Luca again, So we're talking about

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01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 2: a guy that is he is twenty five years old,

1305
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 2: not twenty six. He's trending to be like literally one

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01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 2: of the all time greats. And I don't, you know,

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01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 2: And I'll be curious and we'll get sound and we'll

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01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 2: get Mark Medina.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know.

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01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 2: I don't know what to say because you know you

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01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 2: I'm speechless here. You you wait, as an owner, as

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01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 2: a GM, as a whatever.

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Speaker 4: You have way, Wait, have you seen I'm sorry. Go ahead,

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01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 4: have you seen sorry? I just happened to see this

1315
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 4: quote from I think it's Tim McMahon at ESPN, the

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01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 4: GM for the MAVs told ESPN regarding motivation to Trey

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01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 4: Doncic for Anthony Davis, I believe defense wins championships. I

1318
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 4: believe getting an all defensive center and All NBA player

1319
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 4: with a defensive mindset gives us a better chance. So

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01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 4: he's essentially saying, Lucas all about offense. That's great, We're

1321
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 4: not gonna be able to like that's what he's saying.

1322
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 4: Like what he's throwing out there is Lucas trash on

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01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 4: defense that we can't win like that.

1324
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 3: Well, I'll say this is that which is.

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01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 4: Not necessarily wrong about that first part.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll say this is that if you remember and

1327
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 2: producer Ian, maybe you can find this sound. It was

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01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 2: from ESPN, but during the finals. It was during the

1329
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 2: playoff last Star I think it was during the finals.

1330
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 2: Brian Windhorst went on a crazy rant about Luca. If

1331
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 2: he's gonna be one of those all time greats, he

1332
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 2: has to take it more seriously and basically called him

1333
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 2: a fat, out of shape loser that's basically was the

1334
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 2: theme of the thing, and it was so vicious that

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01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 2: it just felt like something that wouldn't come from just

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01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 2: a reporter on the sidelines. It felt like somebody had

1337
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 2: told him that probably and was like, hey, while you're

1338
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 2: on ESPN, if you could get this message delivered for us,

1339
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 2: we would very much appreciate that. So I wonder if

1340
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 2: this has maybe been the sentiment within the organization.

1341
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 3: But I don't know what to say.

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01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 2: Again, I'll reiterate it for people just joining us, Luca

1343
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 2: din has been traded for Anthony Davis. We're probably gonna

1344
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 2: be reacting to this until two am Eastern when Bernie

1345
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 2: Fratto follows us uh Mark Mark Medina will be joining

1346
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 2: us momentarily to discuss all of it. But again, Luka

1347
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 2: Doncic to the Los Angeles Lakers for Anthony Davis in

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01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 2: what can only be considered one of the great blockbuster

1349
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 2: trades that we have ever seen. We thought Chams's Twitter

1350
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 2: had been hacked, but it is officially on ESPN the

1351
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 2: ticker ESPN dot com and every other NBA insider has

1352
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 2: shared it. Fox Sports Radio errators Jason Martin, We're gonna

1353
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 2: come back. We're gonna discuss this from every single angle

1354
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 2: to Sagra, I'd ask you what's trending. The world being

1355
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 2: on fire is trending. John Caliperi going to Upperna has

1356
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 2: never felt less significant correct than it does right now.

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01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 6: The Athletic also joining the chorus of saying, no, it

1358
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 6: was not a hack. This is actually happening.

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01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 4: Yep.

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01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 6: Dallas Mavericks are trading Luca don said Wi, Maxi, Kleeber,

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01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 6: and Markith Morris to the Lakers for Anthony Davis, Max

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01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 6: Christi and a first rounder in twenty twenty nine. It's

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01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 6: a three team deal, it includes Utah. Immediately, it is

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01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 6: properly being called one of the most stunning trades in

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01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 6: the history of the NBA. The only other one in

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01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 6: the NBA's history that immediately came to mind was when

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01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 6: Kareem was traded by Milwaukee to the Lakers, but that

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01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 6: was not during the season. That was in the summer

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01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 6: of nineteen seventy five, after Kareem had not only won

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01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 6: a title, he had been Rookie of the Year and

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01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 6: a three time MVP already, and then was traded by

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01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 6: Milwaukee to the Lakers. Anthony Davis will turn thirty two

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01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 6: years old. In March, he goes to Dallas. Luka Donsich

1374
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 6: turns twenty six. At the end of this month, he

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01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:50,639
Speaker 6: goes to the Lakers. Luca has played just twenty two

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01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 6: games so far this year. He averages twenty eight points

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01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 6: a game for his NBA career. Anthony Davis has averaged

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01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 6: twenty four points and a lee seven rebounds in his

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01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 6: NBA career. Everything final in the NBA tonight, including a

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01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 6: Laker victory. They've won eight of ten. They won at

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01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:11,639
Speaker 6: New York Tonight one twenty eight, one twelve. Lebron James,

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01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 6: not looking forty years old again at a triple double

1383
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,799
Speaker 6: thirty three points. Lakers shot fifty eight percent from the floor.

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01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 6: The Lakers record is twenty eight and nineteen. This ended

1385
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 6: New York's five game winning streak the Knicks. Josh Hart

1386
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 6: a triple double the late game to Portland over Phoenix

1387
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 6: won twenty seven to one oh eight. Devin Booker thirty

1388
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 6: seven points for the Suns. By the way, John Morant

1389
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 6: of Memphis is doubtful for Sunday with a shoulder injury.

1390
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 6: Houston All Star center Alpa and Shengoon was out again

1391
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 6: tonight missing the Rockets previous game as well with the

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01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 6: Bruce Cap, and Houston lost at home to Brooklyn won

1393
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 6: ten to ninety eight at San Antonio, Victor wembin Yama

1394
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 6: was out due to illness. Miami won at the Buzzer

1395
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,719
Speaker 6: at San Antonio one oh five, one oh three. Bam

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01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 6: Adebayo the game winner. He had thirty points, thirteen rebounds,

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01:09:56,800 --> 01:10:00,759
Speaker 6: nine assists. Wins for Denver and Oklahoma City for Utah

1398
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 6: and Indiana, and Washington ended a sixteen game losing streak

1399
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:07,679
Speaker 6: with a victory at Minnesota one oh five, one oh three.

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01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 6: The Wizards on the road had been one and twenty

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01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 6: one in late night college hoops under ten minutes to go.

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01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:18,719
Speaker 6: Now at Saint Mary's Againzaga has taken the lead forty

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01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 6: nine to forty five. That's in the West Coast Conference,

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01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 6: where Saint Mary's is nine to oh Creighton is nine

1405
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 6: and two in the Big East after winning a close

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01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 6: win at Villanova sixty two to sixty, Michigan eight and

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01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 6: two and Big Ten play after winning at Rutgers sixty

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01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 6: six sixty three. Top ten matchup at Tennessee was dominated

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01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 6: by Tennessee in the second half, wound up ripping Florida

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01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 6: sixty four to forty four. Kansas State came back for

1411
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 6: a win at number three Iowa State Number six. Houston

1412
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,640
Speaker 6: lost in overtime at home to Texas Tech eighty two

1413
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 6: to eighty one. Houston's thirty three game home winning streak

1414
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 6: is over USC beat number seven Michigan State. Yukon won

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01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 6: at number nine Marquette. Big comeback for t over number

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01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:04,639
Speaker 6: eleven Kansas and Arkansas one at number twelve Kentucky tonight

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01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 6: eighty nine seventy nine Kentucky where Anthony Davis won a title.

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01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:12,600
Speaker 6: He gets traded by the Lakers to Dallas tonight for

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01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 6: Luka Doncic. It's true. Back to you, it's true.

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01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 2: Fox Sports radio erin Tors Jason Martin, broadcasting live from

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01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 2: the Tireck dot Com studios.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 3: And by the way, how many people are are in

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01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 3: bed on the East coast in Dallas?

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01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 2: Probably you know, people, normal people with normal lives. It's

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01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:38,640
Speaker 2: eleven thirty nine Central time. But this is official, by

1427
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 2: the way, Jamar, you know how I know it's official.

1428
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 2: A ESPN has its lead NBA analyst Steven A. Smith

1429
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 2: on the phone right now, so you know you could

1430
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:47,640
Speaker 2: get the guy who broke the story and has all

1431
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:49,640
Speaker 2: the context. But whatever, I'm not here to criticize other

1432
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 2: media members. But yes, Fox Sports Radio Erin Tors Jason

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01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 2: Martin broadcasting live from the tyreck dot Com Studios. I'll

1434
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 2: tell you what, maybe this is the best move to Sega.

1435
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 2: We love you. I think we probably skipped the extended update.

1436
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:05,759
Speaker 2: J Martin and I are gonna come back to Saga.

1437
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 2: You can or more. You know the Lakers as well

1438
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 2: as anybody. You're welcome to hop on in. But shocking news.

1439
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 2: Disager just told you arguably the biggest trade of any

1440
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 2: of our lives. Maybe it's not even arguable. Luka Doncic

1441
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 2: is headed to the Dallas from the Dallas Mavericks to

1442
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:25,600
Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Lakers. Anthony Davis is headed to the

1443
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 2: Dallas Mavericks. It's stunning. We thought it wasn't real, but

1444
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 2: it sure is. And we're gonna have wall to wall

1445
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 2: coverage right up until two am Eastern. This is Fox

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live from the tyreck dot

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Speaker 2: a little NBA tomorrow because we have what can only

1459
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 2: be considered one of the most shocking news stories of

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01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 2: any of our lives. It is official, multiple outlets, multiple

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01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:25,600
Speaker 2: reports a blockbuster trade, Dallas Mavericks trading Luka Doncic to

1462
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Lakers for a package that includes Anthony Davis.

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01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:33,480
Speaker 2: There's other parts, but it's basically Luca to the Lakers,

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01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:36,760
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis to the Dallas Mavericks. We've gotten a little

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01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 2: bit more context over the last couple minutes, sham Strowni

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01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 2: reporting the Mavericks approached the Lakers recently and offered Luca

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01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:49,639
Speaker 2: sources to LESPN Lakers brass met and believe Luca has

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01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 2: the ability to be the face of their franchise for

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01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 2: the next decade while giving Anthony Davis a win Now

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01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 2: move in Dallas. So I have a couple thoughts, Jamr

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01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:01,719
Speaker 2: there we got an hour. But that to me right there,

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01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 2: I think that speaks to a lot the face of

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01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 2: the franchise for the next decade while giving Anthony Davis a.

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01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 3: Win Now move in Dallas.

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01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 2: The Lakers under this regime, it is about uh, it's

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01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 2: not about winning. Oh we got we got the next

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01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 2: face of the franchise. And it's like, you know, that's great,

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01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 2: and maybe it is about winning, but why is that

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01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 2: the priority? I mean, you have a forty year old

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01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 2: Lebron James. You know, listen, I'll say this, you know again,

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01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 2: I've said it a million times. I've been critical of

1482
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 2: JJ Reddick in my personal life, but you know, we've

1483
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 2: had disagreements. But he has the Lakers at twenty eight

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01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 2: and nineteen right now in fifth place. They would be

1485
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 2: playing the Nuggets in Round one if the playoffs started today.

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01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 2: I mean, let me even just ask you a simple question.

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01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 2: Does Luca make them more of a contender now than

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01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis?

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01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:51,719
Speaker 3: Would because I don't.

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01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 2: Think he does, but I want to I don't want

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01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 2: to put all my thoughts out there without getting your opinion.

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01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 3: What do you think?

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01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 4: It's tough to say they've become worse defense. I mean,

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01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 4: there's no question about that. They become much more dynamic offensively.

1495
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 4: I mean, this is a dude that led in almost

1496
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:11,599
Speaker 4: every scoring category last year in the playoffs en route

1497
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 4: to the NBA Finals, and I think he beat three

1498
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 4: teams I saw stat and he beat three fifty plus

1499
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 4: win teams in order to do it. And of course

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01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:22,759
Speaker 4: he had Kyrie as his running buddy. But I mean,

1501
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 4: the stuff that Luca was doing in the playoffs last year,

1502
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 4: is that just kind of become sort of what you

1503
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 4: expect to see from him. Now. There are other things

1504
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 4: that you expect to see from him too, like kind

1505
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 4: of subpar conditioning, not in the best of shape. We

1506
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:38,720
Speaker 4: talked about that in the last segment, and that does

1507
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 4: seem to be part of this storyline that the MAVs

1508
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 4: were just kind of disappointed with that, and maybe they

1509
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 4: were kind of looking for an exit ramp there because

1510
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 4: they just weren't sure that the way to the franchise

1511
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 4: could be placed behind somebody that couldn't seem to discipline

1512
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,600
Speaker 4: in that way. But even if he's not disciplined in

1513
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 4: that way, look at the numbers that he's put up,

1514
01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 4: and even look at his numbers this so far this

1515
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 4: season points, eight point three rebounds, seven point eight assists,

1516
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 4: shooting nearly fifty percent from the floor. I don't know

1517
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 4: that this makes them a contender more of a contender now.

1518
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 4: I think the MAVs are looking at this like we're

1519
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 4: gonna win now, if we're gonna win at all. And

1520
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:20,680
Speaker 4: it does showcase to me a confidence in Kyrie and

1521
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 4: a like for what Kyrie has done since he's been there.

1522
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:26,759
Speaker 4: So we're gonna give Kyrie a defensive guy who can't score.

1523
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 4: We're not talking about Ben Wallace here. We're talking about

1524
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:31,680
Speaker 4: Anthony Davis that can go out there and get you

1525
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 4: a double double, but somebody that's gonna rebound effectively but

1526
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 4: also play a lot of defense. The issue with Anthony Davis, though,

1527
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 4: isn't as much conditioning but just being available, because I mean,

1528
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 4: there's a reason why Charles Barkley called him street clothes

1529
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 4: a couple of years ago, and it was because of

1530
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 4: his unavailability due to injuries due to his body betraying him,

1531
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 4: So I think that's part of it. But I think

1532
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 4: this may make the Mavericks more dangerous in the short

1533
01:16:56,640 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 4: term because it gives them more balance in a Western conference.

1534
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 4: That's sort of interesting when you kind of stack it up.

1535
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 4: As for the Lakers, I think it makes them very

1536
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 4: top heavy on the offensive end and leaves you some

1537
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 4: question marks defensively. That said, it does set the stage

1538
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 4: for Luca to be the franchise and the face of

1539
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 4: the biggest franchise in the NBA for the next decade.

1540
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:25,760
Speaker 4: And unless there is a whole lot that we don't know,

1541
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 4: and this was a question we both asked before the break,

1542
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 4: what don't we know here? There's got to be more

1543
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 4: like we weren't hearing anything like this, and now Luca's gone,

1544
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 4: Like what possibly could have gone that wrong? That a

1545
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 4: guy that has been that successful and that prolific, a

1546
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 4: five time All Star already in his career, that guy

1547
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 4: you wanted to get rid of him? Like, what is

1548
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 4: it that we don't know? And if there's not a lot,

1549
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 4: this may go down as one of the dumbest trades

1550
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 4: in the history of sports. Also, it's certainly gonna be

1551
01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 4: one or the other. It's either gonna be something we

1552
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 4: don't know and they turn out to be geniuses, or

1553
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,679
Speaker 4: this is gonna be its own documentary down the road

1554
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 4: of how Dallas sold a franchise, you know, down the

1555
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 4: river and never gave themselves a chance. And I bet

1556
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:13,440
Speaker 4: there are some Dallas fans right now that are absolutely

1557
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 4: just despondent. I would love to hear from them, because

1558
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 4: you got Brian Schottenheimer and now you lose Luka Doncic

1559
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 4: in like a ten day span. It's been a bang

1560
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 4: up time in Dallas.

1561
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 2: It has been a bang up time in Dallas for

1562
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 2: people just joining us. I hate to keep repeating myself,

1563
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 2: but this is just one of the most stunning sports

1564
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 2: stories that we have ever seen. Luka Doncic has been

1565
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 2: traded to the Los Angeles Lakers. Anthony Davis will return

1566
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:44,040
Speaker 2: to Dallas, will go to Dallas as part of the deal.

1567
01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:46,679
Speaker 2: We're gonna have walla wall coverage till two am Eastern time.

1568
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 2: Mark Medina will join us at the top of the

1569
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:50,679
Speaker 2: hour to break this down. But this is just stunning.

1570
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 2: J Mart, I absolutely agree with you. I still feel

1571
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:57,559
Speaker 2: it's just listen one there are the quotes now out

1572
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 2: Nico Harrison, the GM of the the the Dallas Mavericks,

1573
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 2: simply stating, quote, I believe defense wins championships when asked

1574
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 2: why this move was made.

1575
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 3: But I'll tell you listen.

1576
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 2: I know social media isn't the place to always get

1577
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:14,719
Speaker 2: the smartest analysis, but everybody is saying exactly what you're saying.

1578
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 3: J Mart.

1579
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 2: He's either gonna come out looking like a genius or

1580
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 2: he is gonna be out of a job. I just

1581
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 2: go back to Luca twenty five years old, just led

1582
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:27,679
Speaker 2: you to the finals. I don't care if you don't

1583
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 2: love the conditioning, if you don't love this. He's one

1584
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 2: of the five players in the world that you hope

1585
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 2: in your life to have a chance to have in

1586
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:38,599
Speaker 2: your organization. And they get they didn't give him way.

1587
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis is good, but he's thirty two years old.

1588
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 2: He's always banged up.

1589
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 4: Still listen to this. I'm gonna give you a line

1590
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 4: of stats, real quick. Five time All Star, five time

1591
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 4: first team All NBA Rookie of the Year, second all

1592
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:53,760
Speaker 4: time in playoff points per game, third all time in

1593
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 4: points per game, sixth all time in playoff triple doubles

1594
01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 4: and he's not even twenty six years old.

1595
01:19:59,240 --> 01:19:59,879
Speaker 3: It's insane.

1596
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 2: By the way, Mark Stein reiterating something we may have

1597
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 2: brought up. This was not a trade request, This is

1598
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 2: not a Jimmy Butler. Luka Doncicz, from our understanding, did

1599
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 2: not go to bed tonight expecting to wake up being

1600
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 2: a Los Angeles Laker. And Anthony Davis. It's worth noting

1601
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Lakers played in New York tonight, and

1602
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 2: I believe he was on the court. You know, I

1603
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:22,600
Speaker 2: got a triple check that. But this is just an

1604
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 2: absolutely stunning piece of news. Mark Medina will join us

1605
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 2: at the top of the hour to continue to break

1606
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 2: this all down because it is just an absolute stunner.

1607
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:34,040
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis, by the way, did not play in New

1608
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 2: York tonight. But but yeah, Luka doncis again reset it

1609
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 2: for the last time this hour. We'll get to it

1610
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:43,720
Speaker 2: top of next hour. Luka Doncic has been traded to

1611
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Lakers Mavericks GM Nico Harrison saying, quote,

1612
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:51,759
Speaker 2: I believe defense wins championships. Anthony Davis will now team

1613
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 2: up with Kyrie Irving in Dallas. Fox Sports Radio ertorist

1614
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:57,760
Speaker 2: Jason Martin. We're gonna talk all sorts of things an

1615
01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 2: hour three, but we're gonna take this till two Eastern time.

1616
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:04,679
Speaker 2: Luca is a Laker, Anthony Davis is headed to Dallas.

1617
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 3: More Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1619
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, our three Fox Sports Radio rators.

1620
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:14,639
Speaker 3: Jason Martin.

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01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the Tireq dot com studios,

1622
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 2: and yes, we are live at one am Eastern and

1623
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 2: it is important when you realize that we're gonna break

1624
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 2: down one of the craziest trades in NBA history. Fox

1625
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1626
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Speaker 3: It's what we do.

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Speaker 2: As Desager just told you, maybe the most stunning trade

1628
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Speaker 2: at NBA history. Luka Doncic has been traded to the

1629
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 2: Los Angeles Lakers. Anthony Davis is headed to the Dallas Mavericks.

1630
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Speaker 2: We're breaking it down until two am Eastern time. Bernie

1631
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Speaker 2: Fratto will follow us, and I guarantee you Bernie's gonna

1632
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 2: be breaking it down until well into the early morning hours.

1633
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Speaker 2: We are going to go to the phone lines and

1640
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 2: bring in one of the best insiders in the game,

1641
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 2: Mark Medina. He is our Fox Sports Radio NBA insider

1642
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 2: and regular contributor. Medina listen. I could start in a

1643
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 2: million different places. Let me just let me ask you.

1644
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, I did text you when

1645
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 2: I didn't know if this was actual news? Was there

1646
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 2: any indication that let me we'll get to that a minute.

1647
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:41,599
Speaker 2: On a scale of one to ten, I would love

1648
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:43,639
Speaker 2: to know what Mark Medina was doing tonight and.

1649
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 3: Where were you?

1650
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 2: And on a scale of one to ten, how stunned

1651
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 2: were you when this story came out?

1652
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:53,720
Speaker 8: Yeah? What I was doing? Since you asked, I was

1653
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:55,720
Speaker 8: trying to get a late night workouting, So I was

1654
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 8: doing some TV work earlier today and trying to keep

1655
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 8: healthy life. Having then I got the alert, had the

1656
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 8: same initial thoughts you had, This can't be real. That

1657
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 8: was making calls and texts and realized it is real,

1658
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 8: and then I'm trying to process it in real time

1659
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 8: because party thinks this is a blockbuster deal. Obviously, Luka

1660
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:19,679
Speaker 8: Daccis is a generational talent. But then you start thinking,

1661
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 8: how is this going to work? Why did they trade

1662
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 8: Anthony Davis? Why would Dallas trade Luca? You're trying to

1663
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:28,639
Speaker 8: sort all that together now that you know I've had

1664
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:32,759
Speaker 8: some time to process it. It obviously makes total sense

1665
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:35,680
Speaker 8: from the Lakers end because of what I said. And

1666
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:38,680
Speaker 8: even though Anthony Davis has played really well, and up

1667
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 8: until this week with his abdominal injury, he'd been mostly healthy.

1668
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 8: But as we've seen this season, even with Lebron James

1669
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 8: Anthony Davis playing at their reasonably best this season, they're

1670
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 8: stealing is being one of those second tiers in the

1671
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 8: Western Conference getting Luca. Yeah, it does raise some short

1672
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 8: term questions on a who's going to be their center?

1673
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:04,760
Speaker 8: How do they show up some defense? But a I

1674
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 8: suspect they'll keep making moves and be their stealing is

1675
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:11,559
Speaker 8: a lot higher short term and certainly long term for

1676
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 8: whenever Lebron James retires.

1677
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 4: And yeah, and then I think the other thing, obviously,

1678
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 4: Mark is you've got your franchise for the future. Your

1679
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 4: franchise player was not going to be Anthony Davis for

1680
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 4: the next decade. Lucas sells tickets like Luca's a box

1681
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:28,679
Speaker 4: office guy that you could see selling out that building

1682
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 4: for the Lakers long after Lebron plays. So I looked

1683
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 4: at it there. The other thing, we're just going to

1684
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:36,559
Speaker 4: stream of consciousness because we're all kind of in shock

1685
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 4: right now. But I saw Dave mcminnimon suggest that Lebron

1686
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 4: didn't know Lebron played, played the game against the Knicks,

1687
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 4: went to dinner with his family, and then got a

1688
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 4: call that the Lakers didn't even tell him about it.

1689
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's true or not, but it

1690
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 4: does seem like this caught everybody off guard, including Luca,

1691
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:55,679
Speaker 4: including Lebron, and the rest.

1692
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 8: Of the world. Yeah, and I think specifically with Lebron, Look,

1693
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:01,759
Speaker 8: we know that, you know, he can be very vocal

1694
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 8: when it comes to front office decisions, and he's had influence.

1695
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 8: But I think when basically since the Russell Westbrook trade,

1696
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:14,799
Speaker 8: the Lakers have not really heated to anything he's asked

1697
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 8: indirectly or directly. So I do sincerely believe that they

1698
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 8: didn't give any input to Lebron or anything like that.

1699
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:25,599
Speaker 8: And I think obviously Lebron has a lot of respect

1700
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 8: for Luca, but you know, he has a pretty good

1701
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 8: partnership with Anthony Davis. I would argue here that when

1702
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 8: you look at all the different duos that Lebron has

1703
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 8: had throughout his career, no doubt his time with Dwayne

1704
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 8: Wade was the most successful in terms of championships, and

1705
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:47,680
Speaker 8: that fit was really good. But purely from x'es and

1706
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 8: o's personalities, he and Lebron, he and Anthony Davis were

1707
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:55,880
Speaker 8: the best duo because the pecking order and the role

1708
01:25:56,080 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 8: was very clear that Lebron is the playmaker, a D's

1709
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:03,639
Speaker 8: the guy in the block, He's getting more of the points,

1710
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 8: but Lebron is still the leader. Even though Lebron and

1711
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 8: Dwayne Wade, you know, wound up becoming a very unsolvable duo.

1712
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 8: There were some transition periods the first season where they're

1713
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 8: trying to figure out who's number one, who's number two.

1714
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:21,560
Speaker 8: So I think with that, obviously the Lebron wanted the

1715
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:24,920
Speaker 8: Lakers to make all in moves and always rolled his

1716
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 8: eyes when they're saying okay, Well, we're only trader draft

1717
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 8: picks if it's for the right deal. But I don't

1718
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 8: think that he was hoping, you know, directly or indirectly

1719
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 8: that meant, okay, trade Anthony Davis. I mean Anthony Davis

1720
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 8: only last week was you know, talking to us Jen saying, hey,

1721
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 8: we got to make a move. We got to get

1722
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 8: a center because I'm more effective at the four. And

1723
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 8: not only did the Lakers not listen to his requests

1724
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 8: again a center, they didn't trade them in the process.

1725
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 2: Mark Medina joining us Fox Sports radio air tours, Jason Martin,

1726
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 2: We're taking you up till two am Eastern, reacting to

1727
01:26:56,800 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 2: just an absolute stunner of a trade. Yes, you are

1728
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 2: hearing correctly, Luka, Doncic is headed to the Lakers, Anthony

1729
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 2: Davis is headed to the Dallas Mavericks. Mark, you know

1730
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 2: you may have touched on this. I'm just like, like

1731
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 2: Jason said, stream of consciousness. Was there any indication in

1732
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 2: inner circles? I can't speak for j mart but I

1733
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 2: had not heard that either of these guys was available.

1734
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 3: Was there any indication.

1735
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 2: That maybe the MAVs, you know, we've heard, you know,

1736
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 2: the Brian Winhorse ran during the NBA Finals last year

1737
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:31,759
Speaker 2: that felt targeted, like it was maybe coming from somebody

1738
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 2: inside the organization. But was there any like actual indication

1739
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 2: that either of these guys was even available. I mean,

1740
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:41,680
Speaker 2: the latest reports seemed to be and I don't know

1741
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 2: what your sources are telling you. I'm just reading what

1742
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:45,680
Speaker 2: other people are putting out, So I don't want to

1743
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 2: upend your sources here or your reporting here. But you know,

1744
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 2: there was no trade request and it was actually the

1745
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 2: Mavericks that went to the Lakers to initiate this trade.

1746
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 2: Was there any indication at all that this was coming

1747
01:27:58,000 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 2: from either side, at least as far as you were.

1748
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:03,479
Speaker 8: Concer No, I didn't get any indication. And I think

1749
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 8: what's really fascinating when you look at the history of

1750
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 8: the monumental NBA trades, most of them happened with that

1751
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 8: little momentum. I think the most notable example is when

1752
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:17,800
Speaker 8: the Lakers got pau gasol from the Memphis Grizzlies. That

1753
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:20,639
Speaker 8: kind of came out of nowhere, and you know, at

1754
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 8: the time, you know, this is pre social media era,

1755
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 8: but there was a concern that if these talks allowed

1756
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 8: up game public, that it would derail the deal because

1757
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 8: there was so much negotiating on what the Lakers would

1758
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:35,599
Speaker 8: give up, and you know, they wound up giving up.

1759
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 8: You know, at the time, it thought it was a

1760
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 8: steal because Kwame Brown is technically the centerpiece. But they

1761
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:44,599
Speaker 8: attached a lot of young players as well as you know,

1762
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:47,440
Speaker 8: a young prospect named Mark Gasol who was a developmental

1763
01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 8: player at that point but then became an All Star.

1764
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 8: And so yeah, I didn't get any indication, but usually

1765
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 8: that doesn't mean anything because a lot of times these

1766
01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 8: things just spring up organically. This is very rising when

1767
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:05,120
Speaker 8: you're looking at Dallas's end, because Luca is a generational talent.

1768
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:08,760
Speaker 8: Of course, you know, they've had these tast seasons where

1769
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 8: they try to nudge him about trusting your teammates more

1770
01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 8: and buying defensively, and they saw that growth, and I

1771
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:17,760
Speaker 8: think the conclusion that they made was he's going to

1772
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:19,800
Speaker 8: continue to get better and better and he'll lean in

1773
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:23,280
Speaker 8: on what makes Lucas special and then let's just keep

1774
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:26,639
Speaker 8: building roster depth around them. And when they got Klay

1775
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 8: Thompson this past Austin season, even though a lot of

1776
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:33,679
Speaker 8: people don't think he's going to be the same version

1777
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:37,680
Speaker 8: of Klaya was pre Achilles and pre acl injury in

1778
01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:41,479
Speaker 8: twenty nineteen and twenty twenty. He's still Klay Thompson and

1779
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 8: a good catch and shoot, catch and shoot player, And

1780
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 8: so we didn't see this coming. But when you look

1781
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:50,720
Speaker 8: at the ross or the standings itself, even when you

1782
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:54,719
Speaker 8: account for injuries, including for Luca, you know, Dallas hasn't

1783
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 8: really shown a lot of encouraging signs that they can

1784
01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:01,720
Speaker 8: build off the NBA Finals. There's a lot of there

1785
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:04,520
Speaker 8: was at least a lot of chatter from other gms

1786
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 8: before the season started thinking that, yeah, the Mavericks are

1787
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:10,760
Speaker 8: just a one hit wonder, but that didn't mean that

1788
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:13,800
Speaker 8: people were thinking, yeah, Luca's going to be leaving soon.

1789
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:16,639
Speaker 8: The thought was he's going to be there to stay,

1790
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 8: and it's just a matter of how they can they

1791
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:21,920
Speaker 8: continue to build the roster around him. But now it's

1792
01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:25,679
Speaker 8: obviously the complete opposite, because now what they're really honing

1793
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 8: in on is let's make Kyrie Irving and Anthony Davis

1794
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:30,439
Speaker 8: our dominant duo and then go from there.

1795
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, so so mark the conditioning piece and all of

1796
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:38,800
Speaker 4: that from Dallas, and I feel like maybe there's more

1797
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:41,880
Speaker 4: that we'll learn that will leak out or whatever like that.

1798
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:43,760
Speaker 4: But I have seen a couple of different people that

1799
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:46,080
Speaker 4: are close to Lebron suggest in the last handful of

1800
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:49,360
Speaker 4: minutes that he has behind closed doors, dreamed of playing

1801
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 4: with Luca for years. Did never think that it would happen.

1802
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:55,840
Speaker 4: So it's not like he was trying to manufacture it.

1803
01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:57,920
Speaker 4: He just thought that that could work. If you're thinking

1804
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:01,600
Speaker 4: about conditioning and you're thinking about discipline in some of

1805
01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 4: those things. If that stuff is legit and Dallas was

1806
01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:08,280
Speaker 4: just getting tired of that act, Lebron seemingly would be

1807
01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:10,000
Speaker 4: the one. If you're the Lakers, you would take the

1808
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 4: bet would help him in that regard, like because Lebron

1809
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:18,559
Speaker 4: being forty but still you know, notoriously taking care of

1810
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:22,040
Speaker 4: his body, treating himself one like a professional all the

1811
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:26,400
Speaker 4: time on the floor, understanding that side. If he if

1812
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:29,760
Speaker 4: he could mentor Luca for a couple of years, then

1813
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:31,600
Speaker 4: the Lakers have made one of the best bets of

1814
01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:34,519
Speaker 4: all time because they have the right guy there that

1815
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 4: maybe could inspire Luca in a way that nobody in

1816
01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:38,400
Speaker 4: Dallas was going to be able to.

1817
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:42,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's a lot to attack here. First with his conditioning,

1818
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:45,799
Speaker 8: I think even before this trade, Dallas is always pretty

1819
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:48,960
Speaker 8: direct that his conditioning can improve and Luca would be

1820
01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:52,160
Speaker 8: the first to admit it. And so that was one

1821
01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:54,760
Speaker 8: of those things that even though they saw improve in

1822
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:58,679
Speaker 8: every season, he was never known as being in the

1823
01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 8: best tiptop ship, but it was always a work in progress.

1824
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 8: Number two, Yeah, it's not a secret at all that

1825
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:08,559
Speaker 8: Lebron has always thought finally of Luca and you know,

1826
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:12,120
Speaker 8: generally speaking said yeah, I'd love to team up with him.

1827
01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 8: I mean, he I remember four years ago and twenty

1828
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:18,519
Speaker 8: twenty was talking about how he wanted to have Luca

1829
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:22,960
Speaker 8: as a co client with you know, team Lebron when

1830
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:27,240
Speaker 8: it comes to his shoes, and you know, it felt

1831
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:31,040
Speaker 8: like a very nice gesture in Luca's eyes. You may recall,

1832
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 8: I think his rookie season he actually approached Lebron and

1833
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:38,880
Speaker 8: got a jersey from him. So Luca, you know, obviously

1834
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:42,200
Speaker 8: has a lot of respect for Lebron and he will

1835
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:45,200
Speaker 8: be effective with bringing the best out of him. But

1836
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:48,719
Speaker 8: I think in fairness that's partly why they got Kyrie Irving.

1837
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:51,080
Speaker 8: And you saw that growth last season with that game

1838
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 8: in the finals that even though from X's and O's

1839
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:57,439
Speaker 8: it was still Luca being number one and Kyrie being

1840
01:32:57,520 --> 01:33:00,879
Speaker 8: number two. Sometimes would be one, A, one B. Kyrie

1841
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:03,439
Speaker 8: was the leader in the locker room, and so this

1842
01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:06,639
Speaker 8: can be more of an extension of that as opposed

1843
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 8: to he didn't get this in Dallas, and now this

1844
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:11,960
Speaker 8: is a new chapter. But you know, when you obviously

1845
01:33:11,960 --> 01:33:16,360
Speaker 8: compare Lebraun at what he means and Kyrie, Lebron obviously

1846
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:18,479
Speaker 8: has much greater influence because of.

1847
01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 4: Who he is.

1848
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:22,679
Speaker 2: Mark, Mark Medina joining us here on Fox Sports Radio,

1849
01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:25,840
Speaker 2: Aeron Tours, Jason Martin. We're taking up till two am Eastern. Mark,

1850
01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:28,720
Speaker 2: of course our Fox Sports Radio NBA insider. Make sure

1851
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 2: you follow him on Twitter at Mark g Underscore Medina. Mark,

1852
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:35,680
Speaker 2: you know, sort of last one for me. I have

1853
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:39,040
Speaker 2: so many questions, but you know, Lakers in fifth place

1854
01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:41,839
Speaker 2: right now in the West. Obviously the MAVs are struggling

1855
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:44,759
Speaker 2: a little bit. I guess my question is I understand

1856
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:47,120
Speaker 2: this idea of you now have the next face of

1857
01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:51,280
Speaker 2: the franchise, Lucas twenty five years old, Anthony Davis, even

1858
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:54,280
Speaker 2: if he's healthy, you know the tail end of his career.

1859
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:59,559
Speaker 2: All that, but Lakers are in fifth place in the West.

1860
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 3: Is this I guess it's a two part question.

1861
01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:05,439
Speaker 2: Is this an indication that the Lakers did not believe

1862
01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 2: they could win a title under their current construction, and then,

1863
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:13,240
Speaker 2: if so, do you think that they believe this brings

1864
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:15,479
Speaker 2: them closer to a potential NBA title?

1865
01:34:16,439 --> 01:34:19,320
Speaker 8: This is yeah, without a doubt, I think that the

1866
01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:22,720
Speaker 8: Lakers getting this kind of deal. It's very unique, right,

1867
01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:26,200
Speaker 8: it's Luca Dogic and a generational star. But I think

1868
01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:30,360
Speaker 8: before tonight where the Lakers were at was this that

1869
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:34,519
Speaker 8: they're encouraged with their recent improvement, but they know it's

1870
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:37,519
Speaker 8: so fluid because of injuries and the fact that they

1871
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:39,639
Speaker 8: have a lot of good role players, but they can

1872
01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:43,000
Speaker 8: also be inconsistent, so that before the trade deadline, I

1873
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:46,639
Speaker 8: think their thought was we're going to make moves. We're

1874
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:48,960
Speaker 8: not beholding to draft picks just to hoard it, but

1875
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:51,759
Speaker 8: it has to be a move that's a game changer.

1876
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:55,000
Speaker 8: If it's just a move that improves the win total

1877
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 8: by a few games, what's the point. Obviously, with Luca,

1878
01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 8: it a roll of the dice. It could go either way,

1879
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:06,200
Speaker 8: but I think the Lakers obviously felt that he will

1880
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:09,360
Speaker 8: be a game changer both in the short and long term,

1881
01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:14,519
Speaker 8: short term. You know, offensively, he's obviously a tremendous scorer.

1882
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:18,599
Speaker 8: This can reduce the ball handling workload on Lebron James. Yes,

1883
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:21,960
Speaker 8: there's question marks about who's going to start at center,

1884
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:23,760
Speaker 8: how are they going to play defense, But they at

1885
01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:27,080
Speaker 8: least don't lose some of the roster depth that they

1886
01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:30,280
Speaker 8: lost like when they got Russell Westbrook and they're trying

1887
01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:33,599
Speaker 8: to integrate three stars instead of having two. They've decided

1888
01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:37,439
Speaker 8: that the best formula with Lebron is have another co

1889
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:40,840
Speaker 8: star with them, but have some semblance of depth with

1890
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:44,679
Speaker 8: role players around them. So here it's the ultimate gray area.

1891
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:46,679
Speaker 8: And it doesn't mean that they're going to win a title,

1892
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:50,280
Speaker 8: but I think that they're odd odd substantially improved. But

1893
01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:53,880
Speaker 8: I think the bigger thing is it's the bridge for

1894
01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:57,200
Speaker 8: the long term for whenever Lebron retires, so that they

1895
01:35:57,280 --> 01:35:59,840
Speaker 8: have that star in plays and look guys to be.

1896
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 8: They wanted Anthony Davis to be that guy. When they

1897
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:06,759
Speaker 8: got Anthony Davis, Lebron would always say, this is his team.

1898
01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:09,840
Speaker 8: He's a focal point. They signed him to an extensions

1899
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:13,320
Speaker 8: for that reason to try to groom him, to prepare

1900
01:36:13,400 --> 01:36:17,280
Speaker 8: him and I think in fairness with Ad these last

1901
01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:21,080
Speaker 8: two years, they've been more encouraged with his durability. Again,

1902
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:24,360
Speaker 8: prior to this week's abdominal injury, he hadn't had a

1903
01:36:24,439 --> 01:36:28,400
Speaker 8: major injury since January of twenty twenty three, So he's

1904
01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:30,960
Speaker 8: not mister iron Man. But he's also a lot more

1905
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:34,240
Speaker 8: durable than the past. He's been more consistent. But even

1906
01:36:34,280 --> 01:36:37,720
Speaker 8: when you've looked at even when you credit Ad for that,

1907
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:41,120
Speaker 8: it still hasn't been enough for the Lakers to be

1908
01:36:41,240 --> 01:36:43,640
Speaker 8: seen as the top team in the West. Only good

1909
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:45,639
Speaker 8: enough for them to be a player in the playoffs

1910
01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:48,680
Speaker 8: and maybe second tier at best, and hence why they

1911
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:49,599
Speaker 8: made the move tonight.

1912
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:53,760
Speaker 4: So short term, does this make Dallas more of a

1913
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:57,719
Speaker 4: contender this season? From the balance, if Anthony Davis is healthy,

1914
01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:00,599
Speaker 4: what he brings you defensively and maybe how he partners

1915
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:03,840
Speaker 4: up with Kyrie instead of more of the overlap that

1916
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:06,120
Speaker 4: maybe you see between some of their skill sets with

1917
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:08,760
Speaker 4: him and Luca, does this make doubt? Is this more

1918
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Speaker 4: of like a win now move for Dallas?

1919
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:14,479
Speaker 8: I think it's also long term. Look, I have more

1920
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:17,840
Speaker 8: question marks about the reason why Dallas did the only

1921
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:21,080
Speaker 8: thing that makes sense to me is if they did it,

1922
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:24,160
Speaker 8: if they got indication that Luca didn't want to sign

1923
01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:27,519
Speaker 8: an extension, they may as well, you know, get something

1924
01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:30,080
Speaker 8: before he leaves. Now, for what it's worth, it's been

1925
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:33,600
Speaker 8: made adamantly clear that Luca didn't demand a trade, so

1926
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Speaker 8: we'll take that as it is. So with all that aside,

1927
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:41,080
Speaker 8: I don't think that they're substantially better if I were

1928
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Speaker 8: Dallas and A strictly x's and o's, you keep Luca.

1929
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:47,479
Speaker 8: You know, they've shown that they can get to the

1930
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:50,840
Speaker 8: finals with that formula. And even though obviously things have

1931
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:53,639
Speaker 8: been fluid this season and the West is really tough,

1932
01:37:54,160 --> 01:37:56,120
Speaker 8: you know, all those things can sort itself out. But

1933
01:37:56,960 --> 01:37:59,639
Speaker 8: I do think that that Kyrie Irving Anthony Davis pair

1934
01:37:59,880 --> 01:38:03,360
Speaker 8: is very lethal. The chemistry is great. Eighty is the

1935
01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:07,719
Speaker 8: defensive stopper. And again they still have good roster depth,

1936
01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:11,519
Speaker 8: you know, starting with guys like Klay Thompson PJ Washington

1937
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:13,000
Speaker 8: that can make this work.

1938
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Speaker 2: He is Mark Medina, our Fox Sports Radio NBA insider.

1939
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:22,559
Speaker 2: You can follow him on Twitter at Mark g Underscore Medina.

1940
01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:24,600
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what, Mark, you know, this is

1941
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:27,640
Speaker 2: the life of an insider. I think I think to

1942
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:29,840
Speaker 2: a degree. It's the life of anybody that works in

1943
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:32,000
Speaker 2: our businesses. You you know, you think you're gonna have

1944
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:35,519
Speaker 2: a nice quiet, you know, ten PM workout. Mark Medina

1945
01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:37,280
Speaker 2: is just trying to get his sweat on right now.

1946
01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:39,439
Speaker 8: I'm just trying to get the peloton goal. But you

1947
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 8: know what, I'll save it.

1948
01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:43,719
Speaker 2: For later, trying to get his pump on, baby. But listen,

1949
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 2: it's gonna have to wait for another day. By the way,

1950
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:47,880
Speaker 2: would you call this, I mean, this has to be

1951
01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:50,840
Speaker 2: in the short conversation of most shocking trades in NBA history,

1952
01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:52,000
Speaker 2: right yeah.

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01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:53,920
Speaker 8: I would put that, and then I would also put

1954
01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:56,439
Speaker 8: the Chris Paul trade up there. For two reasons. That

1955
01:38:56,640 --> 01:38:59,040
Speaker 8: was a monumental trade and then obviously it gave even

1956
01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:02,880
Speaker 8: more monumental and literally on precedent and once David Stern Nixton,

1957
01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:06,680
Speaker 8: and that had ramifications all across the board when you

1958
01:39:06,760 --> 01:39:09,320
Speaker 8: look at the Lakers and the Rockets and the Hornets

1959
01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:10,840
Speaker 8: and how it impacted all those teams.

1960
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Speaker 2: Mark Medina, my man, I know you'll be joining Bernie

1961
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Speaker 2: Fratto on his show later this evening, so thank you

1962
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:19,200
Speaker 2: for making some time for us. We know it's going

1963
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:22,559
Speaker 2: to be a busy forty eight seventy two hours. Whatever

1964
01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:26,360
Speaker 2: it is is, we decompress from this stunning news here

1965
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Speaker 2: as the Los Angeles Lakers have made a trade, bringing

1966
01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:33,479
Speaker 2: Luca Doncics to La Anthony Davis headed to the Dallas Mavericks. Mark,

1967
01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:35,200
Speaker 2: thank you for the time. We'll be listening to you

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01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:38,880
Speaker 2: with Bernie here later on in the evening. And i'd say,

1969
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:40,680
Speaker 2: try to get some rest, but I don't think that's

1970
01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:41,280
Speaker 2: gonna be happening.

1971
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Speaker 8: I'll get to sleep another day, but I appreciate you

1972
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:46,200
Speaker 8: have me on fun talking MBA with you guys.

1973
01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:49,679
Speaker 2: Mark Medina, he is the best Fox Sports Radio NBA insider.

1974
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:51,760
Speaker 2: Make sure you're following him on Twitter at Mark g

1975
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:55,400
Speaker 2: Underscore Medina. We will come back, and when we do,

1976
01:39:56,560 --> 01:39:59,280
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk Pro Bowl games. No, I'm just kidding,

1977
01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 2: we are talking. Luca is a Laker.

1978
01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:05,000
Speaker 4: I don't even know what to I'm still have no

1979
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:06,960
Speaker 4: idea that last question when I asked him about the

1980
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Speaker 4: MAVs and whether or not they were better in the

1981
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:11,040
Speaker 4: short term, I'm like, I'm just trying to make sense

1982
01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:13,519
Speaker 4: of this, like at this point, because I don't think so.

1983
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:15,479
Speaker 4: I'm just like, well, why do you how do you try,

1984
01:40:15,600 --> 01:40:17,680
Speaker 4: Luka Dancic? What is it that we don't know? But

1985
01:40:18,280 --> 01:40:19,599
Speaker 4: I at least threw it out there. I'm like, well,

1986
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:22,040
Speaker 4: does this somehow make them better in the short term? Like,

1987
01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:26,040
Speaker 4: tell me, explain Treat me as if what is the

1988
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:28,880
Speaker 4: old office line. Explain this to me as if I

1989
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:31,320
Speaker 4: were an eight year old, like, because that's about how

1990
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:32,200
Speaker 4: I feel right now.

1991
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:33,519
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what is that?

1992
01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:34,040
Speaker 4: You know?

1993
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Speaker 2: Listen, you know I sometimes get annoyed, and this week

1994
01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:40,160
Speaker 2: we're gonna have a lot of like the Mahomes versus Brady,

1995
01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:43,080
Speaker 2: like you know whatever, and and and so obviously in

1996
01:40:43,160 --> 01:40:45,439
Speaker 2: basketball we have like m J Lebron all this, But

1997
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:48,880
Speaker 2: I do think, like I would love like a Bill

1998
01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:51,640
Speaker 2: Simmons from the Ringer, Like, you know, have we ever

1999
01:40:51,720 --> 01:40:54,240
Speaker 2: had a trade of a player this good, this young

2000
01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:58,560
Speaker 2: without off the court issues, you know, a fight with

2001
01:40:58,680 --> 01:41:02,680
Speaker 2: a coach like you know, like, like, I just think

2002
01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:05,200
Speaker 2: of Bill Simmons because he's great with that historical knowledge.

2003
01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:08,680
Speaker 2: I just it's one thing for two superstars to get

2004
01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:11,360
Speaker 2: traded j Mart, but a twenty six year old entering

2005
01:41:11,439 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 2: his prime and I know Mark Cuban isn't the MAVs

2006
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:18,240
Speaker 2: owner anymore. But like the way he gushed about him,

2007
01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:20,960
Speaker 2: and you know, you know, remember Dirk Novitzky kind of

2008
01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:25,679
Speaker 2: that similar trajectory European he comes there, he's a twenty

2009
01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:28,479
Speaker 2: year Mav and so like if you had told me

2010
01:41:28,680 --> 01:41:32,799
Speaker 2: two hours ago the most untradeable players in the NBA,

2011
01:41:33,200 --> 01:41:35,559
Speaker 2: I would you know, I would assume Luca's right up

2012
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:38,840
Speaker 2: there with probably Jokichen Wemby is one, two three in

2013
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Speaker 2: some order. Maybe I'm missing somebody, but man, oh man,

2014
01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:43,599
Speaker 2: oh man, all right, this we're gonna be We're gonna

2015
01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:45,320
Speaker 2: come back. We'll get to Di Seger, He'll get you

2016
01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:48,400
Speaker 2: caught up on this and pretty much I'd say everything

2017
01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:52,320
Speaker 2: else in sports, but this is sports right now. We

2018
01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:55,040
Speaker 2: are live till two am Eastern. This is great thing

2019
01:41:55,080 --> 01:41:57,560
Speaker 2: about Fox Sports Radio. We're live twenty four hours a

2020
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Speaker 2: day and there will be a lot of reaction until

2021
01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:04,160
Speaker 2: we're off air. And then beyond Luka Doncic headed to

2022
01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:07,600
Speaker 2: the Lakers, Anthony Davis to the MAVs, much more coming up.

2023
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2024
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2025
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2027
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2028
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2029
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2030
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2031
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2032
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2034
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2035
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2036
01:42:40,920 --> 01:42:41,320
Speaker 4: Tell you what.

2037
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:44,439
Speaker 2: I was going to continue the conversation on the stunning news,

2038
01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:48,800
Speaker 2: but I see Desager is in go mode, so let's

2039
01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:50,720
Speaker 2: not waste any more time. Let's get to the news

2040
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:54,200
Speaker 2: desk with the stunning news. Oh there's a lot trending

2041
01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:57,519
Speaker 2: at one thirty Eastern time here in what is now

2042
01:42:57,880 --> 01:43:00,040
Speaker 2: February second to Sager, take it away, sir.

2043
01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:01,280
Speaker 3: On behalf of all of us.

2044
01:43:01,640 --> 01:43:03,920
Speaker 7: Wow, that actually happened.

2045
01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:07,240
Speaker 6: The Lakers dealt Anthony Davis to Dallas for Luka Donsish

2046
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:11,479
Speaker 6: and two others. Among the many reporters commenting and reporting

2047
01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:14,880
Speaker 6: good nuggets coming out tonight at ESPN's NBA reporter Tim

2048
01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:18,040
Speaker 6: McMahon saying the MAVs had major concerns about moving forward

2049
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:21,479
Speaker 6: with Doncich due to his constant conditioning issues and the

2050
01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:26,040
Speaker 6: looming commitment of another Supermax contract extension this summer. Well,

2051
01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:28,920
Speaker 6: that's certainly off the board. One person online pointed out,

2052
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:32,599
Speaker 6: you know Luka Donsich was traded before Jimmy Butler.

2053
01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:36,400
Speaker 2: Well, I was trying to do in my head of like,

2054
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:40,920
Speaker 2: you know, who had Luca before Mike McCarry.

2055
01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:43,280
Speaker 3: I don't know, I couldn't. Nothing came to mind. But

2056
01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:44,560
Speaker 3: it's just insanity.

2057
01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:44,800
Speaker 4: Man.

2058
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:48,840
Speaker 6: You might recall that the Lakers were nothing special as

2059
01:43:48,920 --> 01:43:52,040
Speaker 6: of a few weeks ago this season, and now they've

2060
01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:55,200
Speaker 6: been great. The last couple of weeks after the postponements

2061
01:43:55,240 --> 01:43:59,280
Speaker 6: due to the fire in earlier January, the Lakers did

2062
01:43:59,360 --> 01:44:01,360
Speaker 6: wind up having a home game and got killed by

2063
01:44:01,439 --> 01:44:04,560
Speaker 6: San Antonio. That put the Lakers record at twenty and seventeen.

2064
01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:07,800
Speaker 6: Since then, they've won eight of ten, including a win

2065
01:44:07,880 --> 01:44:11,799
Speaker 6: at New York tonight twenty eight one twelve. Lebron James

2066
01:44:12,160 --> 01:44:16,080
Speaker 6: in a triple double, had thirty three points. Sham Sharania,

2067
01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:19,559
Speaker 6: who broke the trade news tonight, says, I'm told Luka Doncich,

2068
01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:22,080
Speaker 6: who did not request a trade, is still stunned by this.

2069
01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:25,280
Speaker 6: Anthony Davis had no idea this was coming. Lebron had

2070
01:44:25,360 --> 01:44:26,599
Speaker 6: no idea this was coming.

2071
01:44:27,360 --> 01:44:29,040
Speaker 3: I will say the.

2072
01:44:29,120 --> 01:44:31,840
Speaker 6: Lane is open for the Lakers anytime you play them now.

2073
01:44:32,040 --> 01:44:35,920
Speaker 6: I know Anthony Davis was currently hurt after Tuesday, but

2074
01:44:36,200 --> 01:44:39,800
Speaker 6: let's just point at that Tuesday loss at Philadelphia, late

2075
01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:44,000
Speaker 6: first quarter, Davis injures the abdominal and goes out immediately

2076
01:44:44,080 --> 01:44:47,080
Speaker 6: in the second quarter. Philly scored almost fifty points in

2077
01:44:47,240 --> 01:44:50,439
Speaker 6: the period. Standing by to see what the Laker defense

2078
01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:52,639
Speaker 6: is going to be like they have with this nice

2079
01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:56,120
Speaker 6: run gone to for the moment, the fifth seed ahead

2080
01:44:56,200 --> 01:44:58,519
Speaker 6: of the Clippers in the Western Conference.

2081
01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:01,320
Speaker 7: They'll be playing the Clippers again shortly, but Anthony, I.

2082
01:45:01,320 --> 01:45:04,519
Speaker 4: Think they played I think February twenty fifth MAVs at.

2083
01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:07,120
Speaker 7: Lake ha Mas at Lakers.

2084
01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:11,599
Speaker 6: We're assuming that, by the way, Lukadansich will be back

2085
01:45:12,200 --> 01:45:15,120
Speaker 6: by then. He hasn't been seen since Christmas and was

2086
01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:19,439
Speaker 6: due back next weekend. Anthony Davis was not only the

2087
01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:22,920
Speaker 6: defense down low for the Lakers and their leading rebounder,

2088
01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:27,320
Speaker 6: he was their leading scorer. That they traded it is Luka, Doncych,

2089
01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:31,519
Speaker 6: Maxi Kleeber, Markith Morris to the Lakers for Anthony Davis, Max,

2090
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:34,520
Speaker 6: Chrissy and a first rounder, and I need to emphasize

2091
01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:37,960
Speaker 6: only one first rounder. This is not the Rudy Gobert

2092
01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:41,760
Speaker 6: deal a twenty twenty nine first rounder to Dallas. It

2093
01:45:41,840 --> 01:45:45,040
Speaker 6: winds up a three team deal. Utah is also involved

2094
01:45:45,080 --> 01:45:47,759
Speaker 6: to make things work, but it was a calf strain

2095
01:45:48,040 --> 01:45:52,479
Speaker 6: that doncich On Christmas suffered, so he's missed half the season.

2096
01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:56,960
Speaker 6: Hasn't played since then. I will say though, in his postseasons,

2097
01:45:57,040 --> 01:45:59,719
Speaker 6: including the run to the finals last year with Dallas,

2098
01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:03,559
Speaker 6: he's been phenomenal, starting out when he was a kid

2099
01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:06,120
Speaker 6: in the playoffs and played the Clippers in the first

2100
01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:09,680
Speaker 6: round back to back years and was stupendous despite the

2101
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:13,200
Speaker 6: fact that his team lost each first rounder to the

2102
01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:18,639
Speaker 6: Clippers in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one. He's eligible

2103
01:46:18,720 --> 01:46:21,160
Speaker 6: for an extension this summer, hardly going to make the

2104
01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:24,080
Speaker 6: kind of insane money that he was due for if

2105
01:46:24,120 --> 01:46:27,120
Speaker 6: he was staying with Dallas. Anthony Davis was due for

2106
01:46:27,200 --> 01:46:29,960
Speaker 6: a six million dollar trade bonus to get applied to

2107
01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 6: his salary. Chris Haynes saying that he has weighed the trade.

2108
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:38,759
Speaker 6: Kicker conditioning is the one negative to acquire Luka Donsich.

2109
01:46:39,080 --> 01:46:41,479
Speaker 6: Let's say it out loud. The guy's six foot eight

2110
01:46:41,560 --> 01:46:45,160
Speaker 6: and listed at two hundred and thirty pounds. By comparison,

2111
01:46:45,320 --> 01:46:50,479
Speaker 6: Jason Tatum is six eight and two ten. Luka Donci's

2112
01:46:50,520 --> 01:46:53,920
Speaker 6: listed at six six to thirty. I should say, but yes,

2113
01:46:54,360 --> 01:46:56,200
Speaker 6: you always see him and say, boy, he could probably

2114
01:46:56,240 --> 01:46:59,600
Speaker 6: lose ten pounds. Anthony Davis currently injured with the adominal.

2115
01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:03,800
Speaker 6: It's a current injury for Luca was due back before

2116
01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:06,200
Speaker 6: the All Star break with the cash trade. This is

2117
01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:10,000
Speaker 6: for in season as well. One of the biggest blockbusters

2118
01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:12,960
Speaker 6: in the history of the NBA. And guys connecting the

2119
01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:15,960
Speaker 6: NBA to what you mentioned earlier, The Pro Bowl Skill

2120
01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:19,639
Speaker 6: Show was on TV this week Thursday night that averaged

2121
01:47:19,720 --> 01:47:23,080
Speaker 6: one point one million TV viewers. Uh oh, Not a

2122
01:47:23,160 --> 01:47:26,400
Speaker 6: single NBA game on TNT this week got even one million,

2123
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:30,040
Speaker 6: Not the two on Tuesday, not the two on Thursday.

2124
01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:35,120
Speaker 7: Just saying Washington got a win tonight. Now there is news.

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Speaker 6: They had lost sixteen in a row. They won at

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Speaker 6: Minnesota one oh five, one oh three. Portland took the

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Speaker 6: late game over Phoenix despite thirty seven from Devin Booker

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Speaker 6: College hoops. Arkansas won at number twelve Kentucky Saint Mary's

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Speaker 6: now ten and ohero in the West Coast Conference after

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01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:53,840
Speaker 6: edging Gonzaga, Yukon won at Marquette on Fox tonight, and

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01:47:53,920 --> 01:47:56,479
Speaker 6: Baylor was down twenty one late first half and still

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01:47:56,520 --> 01:48:00,360
Speaker 6: beat eleventh rank Kansas NHL Winnipeg in overtime, a five

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Speaker 6: four win at Washington, and the Bears hired Eric the

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Speaker 6: Enemy as running backs coach.

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Speaker 3: Back to you, thank you very much to Sager, have

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Speaker 3: a great evening.

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Speaker 2: You'll be back tomorrow with Chris Plank and Arnie Spanier

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01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:15,960
Speaker 2: and the crew, and maybe you'll be breaking down nicolea

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01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:22,400
Speaker 2: Jokics trade for you know, for yeah, for your honest yeah, yeah,

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01:48:23,479 --> 01:48:24,880
Speaker 2: unbelievable that we're live.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we're live.

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Speaker 2: We're you know, ja mart This story now broke well

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01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:29,680
Speaker 2: over an hour and a half ago for people just

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Speaker 2: joining us, and I hate to keep resetting. I think

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01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:35,360
Speaker 2: you know, in this twenty four hour world news that

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01:48:35,400 --> 01:48:37,479
Speaker 2: we have, I have to assume that most people have

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01:48:37,600 --> 01:48:41,400
Speaker 2: at least gotten a glimmer of this. But Luca Toncic,

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01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:44,920
Speaker 2: as Desager just told you, has been traded to the

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles Lakers. Luca is a Laker Anthony Davis is

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01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:54,200
Speaker 2: headed to the Dallas Mavericks. And it's interesting because Nico Harrison,

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01:48:54,479 --> 01:48:58,479
Speaker 2: the GM of the Dallas Mavericks, referenced basically that he

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01:48:58,640 --> 01:49:01,760
Speaker 2: believes that defense wins championships. I guess that means that

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01:49:01,840 --> 01:49:05,040
Speaker 2: he believes that a Kyrie Anthony Davis perring gets them

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01:49:05,080 --> 01:49:06,040
Speaker 2: closer to a title.

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Speaker 3: But you know, de Seger just brought it up.

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Speaker 4: Is that it did?

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Speaker 2: You know, it does kind of follow this trend of

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01:49:15,280 --> 01:49:20,479
Speaker 2: clear frustration within the organization, you know, not with Lucas talent,

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01:49:20,600 --> 01:49:23,720
Speaker 2: but maybe with his you know, willingness to put it

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01:49:23,800 --> 01:49:25,280
Speaker 2: to you know, willingness to be in the kind of

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01:49:25,320 --> 01:49:27,120
Speaker 2: shape that you need to win at the highest level.

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01:49:27,479 --> 01:49:30,840
Speaker 2: And it made me think of the NBA Finals last year.

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01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:34,160
Speaker 2: The Dallas Mavericks did end up losing to the Boston Celtics,

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01:49:34,280 --> 01:49:36,519
Speaker 2: and during that NBA Finals, I don't know if it

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01:49:36,560 --> 01:49:38,679
Speaker 2: was the game where the map where the the MAVs

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01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:43,120
Speaker 2: were officially eliminated or what, but I do remember Brian

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01:49:43,160 --> 01:49:47,280
Speaker 2: Winhors going on this wild rant and it felt like

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01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:49,920
Speaker 2: it was coming from somebody within the organization, like it

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01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:53,120
Speaker 2: was so specific and so mean spirit, not mean spirit,

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01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:55,120
Speaker 2: but so honest, I guess would probably be the right

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01:49:55,160 --> 01:49:57,120
Speaker 2: way to put it that. I said, man, oh Man,

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01:49:57,200 --> 01:50:00,240
Speaker 2: oh Man, there has to be something more to this story. Well,

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01:50:00,280 --> 01:50:03,439
Speaker 2: I bring it up because producer Ian has found that sound.

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01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:08,160
Speaker 2: Here was Brian Winnhorse during the NBA Finals talking about Luka.

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Speaker 4: Doncic, Luca and Kyrie combined for actually more than Tana

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01:50:11,800 --> 01:50:13,920
Speaker 4: Brown did, but Luca fowls out late. I just wonder

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Speaker 4: your reaction to that whole sequence.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I thought it was perfect that Luca fell onto

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01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:24,000
Speaker 9: the ground there in an unacceptable position to put himself

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01:50:24,040 --> 01:50:26,400
Speaker 9: in with four minutes left with five fouls, and then

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01:50:26,439 --> 01:50:28,880
Speaker 9: immediately looks at the bench and says, you better bleeping

2182
01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:31,479
Speaker 9: challenge it, as if it's the bench's fault that he

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01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:34,000
Speaker 9: just made a terrible play. I'm standing here in the

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01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:37,200
Speaker 9: Mavericks tunnel. Over there is the Celtics tunnel. That's where

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01:50:37,200 --> 01:50:38,960
Speaker 9: the winners are. If Lucas ever going to be a

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01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:41,160
Speaker 9: winner coming out of this tunnel here, he is going

2187
01:50:41,240 --> 01:50:43,040
Speaker 9: to have to use this have what's happened in this

2188
01:50:43,200 --> 01:50:48,000
Speaker 9: finals as a learning experience. His defensive performance is unacceptable.

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01:50:48,040 --> 01:50:50,120
Speaker 9: He is a hole on the court. The Celtics are

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01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:52,320
Speaker 9: attacking him. They are ahead in this series because they

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01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:55,600
Speaker 9: have attacked him defensively, and you've got a situation here

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01:50:55,640 --> 01:50:58,599
Speaker 9: where Luca's complaining about the officiating. They have begged him,

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01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:01,519
Speaker 9: they have talked with him, with him, he is costing

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01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:02,519
Speaker 9: his team because.

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01:51:02,280 --> 01:51:03,320
Speaker 4: Of how he treats the officials.

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Speaker 9: He's a brilliant player, he does so many things well.

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01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:08,960
Speaker 9: They are here because how he did. His performance in

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01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:11,799
Speaker 9: this game is unacceptable and the reason why the Mavericks

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Speaker 9: are not going to win. He's got to get over this.

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01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:15,240
Speaker 9: And the fact that he came out after the game

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01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:17,880
Speaker 9: and blame the officials showed me. He's nowhere close yet.

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01:51:18,160 --> 01:51:20,240
Speaker 9: So maybe over the summer somebody will get to him,

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01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:22,400
Speaker 9: because nobody with the Mavericks or anybody else in his

2204
01:51:22,479 --> 01:51:24,800
Speaker 9: life has And that's where the Mavericks are at this point.

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01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:27,000
Speaker 9: They're never going to get to this tunnel with the

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01:51:27,080 --> 01:51:30,160
Speaker 9: trophy if he doesn't improve those aspects of his game.

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Speaker 2: That was Brian Winhorse during the NBA Finals last year,

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01:51:35,080 --> 01:51:39,360
Speaker 2: clearly before the the MAVs had officially been eliminated, probably

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Speaker 2: after Game four, Game five, whatever, the second the penultimate

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01:51:42,640 --> 01:51:45,080
Speaker 2: game was as they call it, you know, I just

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01:51:45,160 --> 01:51:47,400
Speaker 2: bring it up Jmart because I mean the way he

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01:51:47,600 --> 01:51:50,439
Speaker 2: said it, I mean, you know, people in the organization

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01:51:50,479 --> 01:51:52,559
Speaker 2: are frustrated. It felt like it had to come within

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01:51:52,640 --> 01:51:55,280
Speaker 2: the organization, and we only got a few minutes to

2215
01:51:55,320 --> 01:51:55,800
Speaker 2: break this down.

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Speaker 3: Unforreshe, but it.

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Speaker 2: Feels to me like this had this had to have

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01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:03,120
Speaker 2: been the tone on Luca dating back to last year,

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01:52:03,800 --> 01:52:07,000
Speaker 2: and it feels like, for whatever reason, it feels like

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01:52:07,240 --> 01:52:09,599
Speaker 2: at this trade deadline, they're at their wits end. Now

2221
01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:12,160
Speaker 2: you could argue whether it's the right decision or wrong,

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01:52:12,520 --> 01:52:16,400
Speaker 2: but it feels like this maybe maybe maybe this is

2223
01:52:16,400 --> 01:52:17,920
Speaker 2: the right way to put Maybe it shouldn't be as

2224
01:52:18,000 --> 01:52:22,080
Speaker 2: surprising as we think it is, given clearly that like

2225
01:52:22,200 --> 01:52:24,720
Speaker 2: I said, it feels like that that whole situation came

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01:52:24,800 --> 01:52:25,919
Speaker 2: from within the organization.

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Speaker 4: So I've got I found an article Winhors I was

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01:52:29,920 --> 01:52:32,120
Speaker 4: watching him during the last couple of breaks, just since

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01:52:32,280 --> 01:52:34,800
Speaker 4: I knew this audio or I knew we had referenced it.

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01:52:34,840 --> 01:52:36,320
Speaker 4: I know, if we're going to find the best, great

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01:52:36,360 --> 01:52:40,439
Speaker 4: job by our crew. So I found kind of what

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01:52:40,680 --> 01:52:43,400
Speaker 4: Windhorst has said tonight, and I think it's very interesting

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01:52:43,439 --> 01:52:46,240
Speaker 4: to bookend what you just said. He said quote. I

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01:52:46,320 --> 01:52:48,280
Speaker 4: don't think the Lakers are looking to do this. I

2235
01:52:48,320 --> 01:52:50,840
Speaker 4: think the phone rang from Dallas saying do you want

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01:52:50,960 --> 01:52:54,360
Speaker 4: Luka Doncic And they said, a twenty five year old

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01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:57,040
Speaker 4: who is potentially a multi time MVP, Yes, we will

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01:52:57,080 --> 01:52:59,920
Speaker 4: take him at the Los Angeles Lakers. Then he goes

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01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:02,080
Speaker 4: further and now we get back to this kind of

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Speaker 4: plays into what audio we just listened to. If you

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01:53:06,120 --> 01:53:08,280
Speaker 4: have a twenty five year old, you can get under

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01:53:08,360 --> 01:53:10,599
Speaker 4: contract for five years at three hundred and fifty million,

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01:53:10,640 --> 01:53:11,920
Speaker 4: and that's what we know right he was going to

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01:53:11,960 --> 01:53:15,599
Speaker 4: get the Supermax. The extension is being talked about would

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01:53:15,600 --> 01:53:17,519
Speaker 4: be five year, three forty five to three hundred and

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01:53:17,520 --> 01:53:20,320
Speaker 4: fifty million, So that's a record contract. So you get

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01:53:20,400 --> 01:53:23,200
Speaker 4: that guy if you can get him under contract. He's

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01:53:23,240 --> 01:53:26,600
Speaker 4: been First Team All NBA five times. That's typically in

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01:53:26,680 --> 01:53:30,200
Speaker 4: the history of the NBA, a no brainer situation. What

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Speaker 4: we're reporting and talking to the Mavericks tonight is they

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01:53:32,880 --> 01:53:36,240
Speaker 4: weren't sure that was a good investment. That is a

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01:53:36,520 --> 01:53:40,040
Speaker 4: stunning statement. They weren't sure they were getting Luka Doncic

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01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:42,960
Speaker 4: under contract for five years that that was actually smart

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01:53:43,400 --> 01:53:46,240
Speaker 4: for their franchise. And then he said, if I'm Luca.

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01:53:46,600 --> 01:53:50,360
Speaker 4: This is the ultimate rebuke, this is the ultimate insult.

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01:53:50,760 --> 01:53:53,400
Speaker 4: There's no way anybody is turning down three hundred and

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01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:56,360
Speaker 4: fifty million dollars. So what they're basically saying to you is,

2258
01:53:56,960 --> 01:53:58,719
Speaker 4: we don't think you're worth the money.

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01:53:59,040 --> 01:54:06,439
Speaker 2: Unquote unbelievable, unbelievable stuff. As Luka Doncic is traded to

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01:54:07,080 --> 01:54:10,080
Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Lakers. There's just no other way to

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01:54:10,080 --> 01:54:12,400
Speaker 2: put it. It is one of the most stunning things

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01:54:12,439 --> 01:54:16,679
Speaker 2: that we have ever seen in NBA history. Luka Doncic

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01:54:16,920 --> 01:54:21,080
Speaker 2: is a Laker, Anthony Davis is a Dallas Maverick. I

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01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:24,240
Speaker 2: still cannot believe we are saying this. Fox Sports Radio

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01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:26,519
Speaker 2: air tors Jason Martin, we got one segment left. We

2266
01:54:26,560 --> 01:54:28,759
Speaker 2: are gonna take you to the finish line. Bernie Fratto

2267
01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:31,519
Speaker 2: of The Bernie Fratto Show will follow us next. Pretty

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01:54:31,520 --> 01:54:34,200
Speaker 2: sure Bernie's gonna be just talking Luca and the Lakers

2269
01:54:34,280 --> 01:54:38,320
Speaker 2: for probably four straight hours because this is just put simply,

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01:54:38,400 --> 01:54:41,080
Speaker 2: one of the most stunning stories that we have ever seen,

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01:54:41,160 --> 01:54:41,960
Speaker 2: we have ever covered.

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Speaker 3: We have one segment left.

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01:54:44,520 --> 01:54:47,400
Speaker 2: I guess we're not getting to Caitlin Clark tonight, j

2274
01:54:47,600 --> 01:54:50,040
Speaker 2: mart and all the things that we had planned. But

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01:54:50,440 --> 01:54:52,400
Speaker 2: you live for nights like this in the business, and

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01:54:52,520 --> 01:54:55,320
Speaker 2: that's exactly where we are. This is Fox Sports Radio.

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01:54:57,520 --> 01:55:01,720
Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio eritors Jason Mayri. We

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01:55:01,760 --> 01:55:04,800
Speaker 2: are broadcasting live from the ti ireq dot com studios.

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01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:10,720
Speaker 2: Hard knock life for Luka Doncic, who's traded tonight to

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01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:14,320
Speaker 2: the Lakers. I still can't believe it. And as we

2281
01:55:14,520 --> 01:55:17,800
Speaker 2: just discussed with the Saeger, he was not aware that

2282
01:55:17,960 --> 01:55:21,680
Speaker 2: this trade was coming. To reiterate, this is not a

2283
01:55:21,840 --> 01:55:25,560
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler situation. There was no trade request, there was

2284
01:55:25,640 --> 01:55:29,040
Speaker 2: no demand, there was no sit out. Anthony Davis, equally,

2285
01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:33,400
Speaker 2: according to reporters, has been shocked by this news. But again,

2286
01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:39,120
Speaker 2: if you are joining us, Luka Doncic has been traded

2287
01:55:39,160 --> 01:55:40,720
Speaker 2: to the freaking Lakers.

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01:55:41,240 --> 01:55:45,120
Speaker 4: The I'm seeing, like all the reaction articles now from

2289
01:55:45,240 --> 01:55:49,560
Speaker 4: people in the league like Devin Booker and the Suns

2290
01:55:49,800 --> 01:55:54,240
Speaker 4: found out sitting on the bench during the game against

2291
01:55:54,280 --> 01:55:58,320
Speaker 4: the Trailblazers comment is hilarious.

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01:55:59,120 --> 01:55:59,840
Speaker 3: I haven't seen it.

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01:56:00,360 --> 01:56:02,360
Speaker 4: He said. Somebody told us on the bench and they

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01:56:02,400 --> 01:56:06,360
Speaker 4: said Luca, And I said, Luca Garza, Who've got traded?

2295
01:56:06,480 --> 01:56:10,440
Speaker 4: No shame to him, Like they couldn't believe it. Durant said,

2296
01:56:10,480 --> 01:56:12,360
Speaker 4: this is the biggest He said, this is the biggest

2297
01:56:12,360 --> 01:56:14,000
Speaker 4: trade I've seen since I've been in the league or

2298
01:56:14,040 --> 01:56:17,000
Speaker 4: since I've been watching the sport. And then he said,

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01:56:17,720 --> 01:56:21,480
Speaker 4: at this age mid season, Luca, NBA is a wild place.

2300
01:56:21,560 --> 01:56:23,800
Speaker 4: If he can get traded, anybody's up for grabs. And

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01:56:23,880 --> 01:56:26,920
Speaker 4: that last comment is being reiterated by a whole lot

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01:56:26,960 --> 01:56:30,880
Speaker 4: of people across a lot of sports indicating that, and

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01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:33,400
Speaker 4: like Giannis just put a couple of emojis to indicate

2304
01:56:33,560 --> 01:56:37,000
Speaker 4: cold world. But like the whole league and all the

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01:56:37,040 --> 01:56:39,560
Speaker 4: players that are reacting to this, and Dirk, which I

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01:56:39,640 --> 01:56:43,240
Speaker 4: think is very important here, probably the most famous maverick

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01:56:43,480 --> 01:56:46,080
Speaker 4: of all time and one of the most beloved figures

2308
01:56:46,160 --> 01:56:50,200
Speaker 4: certainly of this century in the NBA, he just has

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01:56:50,240 --> 01:56:53,840
Speaker 4: a very sad looking emoji like just like, oh no,

2310
01:56:53,960 --> 01:56:57,280
Speaker 4: I can't believe this has happened. So like everybody is baffled.

2311
01:56:57,320 --> 01:56:58,840
Speaker 4: But just the idea that Booker heard it, and the

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01:56:58,880 --> 01:57:01,760
Speaker 4: mediate was like, Hey, it's talking about Luca Garza and say, nope,

2313
01:57:02,120 --> 01:57:05,400
Speaker 4: Luka Dodgic, that's a thing. We are all blown away

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01:57:05,480 --> 01:57:09,600
Speaker 4: by this. This So this is one where it's just like, man,

2315
01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:13,800
Speaker 4: we actually got to do this as a job reacting

2316
01:57:13,880 --> 01:57:15,560
Speaker 4: to this because I wouldn't have been able to sleep

2317
01:57:15,640 --> 01:57:17,920
Speaker 4: if I hadn't been on the radio and this had happened. No,

2318
01:57:18,200 --> 01:57:22,840
Speaker 4: because it is such stunning, just shocking. I know we're

2319
01:57:22,840 --> 01:57:24,520
Speaker 4: going to hear more about it, but in the moment,

2320
01:57:24,680 --> 01:57:27,160
Speaker 4: like none of us believed that this was real. No,

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01:57:27,400 --> 01:57:29,840
Speaker 4: Scham's had to put out multiple treats just to say, look,

2322
01:57:30,320 --> 01:57:33,640
Speaker 4: I have not been hacked. This is legitimate, and then

2323
01:57:33,680 --> 01:57:35,080
Speaker 4: a bunch of other people had to do it just

2324
01:57:35,120 --> 01:57:37,120
Speaker 4: for us to believe that those weren't hacks. And I

2325
01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:39,120
Speaker 4: literally this is the first time ever there have been

2326
01:57:39,200 --> 01:57:43,880
Speaker 4: like two or three different accounts that are legitimate or

2327
01:57:44,520 --> 01:57:47,160
Speaker 4: outlets that are legitimate who have said the story. And

2328
01:57:47,200 --> 01:57:49,720
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my gosh, it's a massive hack. Yeah,

2329
01:57:49,800 --> 01:57:53,800
Speaker 4: like they've hacked like everyone in sports media. Because that's

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01:57:53,840 --> 01:57:54,880
Speaker 4: how big this trade is.

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01:57:55,080 --> 01:57:57,680
Speaker 3: I'll tell you from my perspective now that we can decompress.

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01:57:57,720 --> 01:58:00,360
Speaker 2: First of all, you're right, this is the coolest, you know,

2333
01:58:00,600 --> 01:58:02,680
Speaker 2: because we can come on on the night of an

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01:58:02,760 --> 01:58:05,960
Speaker 2: NFL playoff game like we knew two weeks ago. Hey,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna be talking about Lions commanders one way or another, like,

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Speaker 2: we don't know what the narrative is gonna be, but

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Speaker 2: we know that's gonna lead our show. Two weeks ago

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Speaker 2: NBA Finals, You and I have been on March Madness,

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Speaker 2: et cetera. There's only been that I remember I've been.

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Speaker 2: I've been in this shift since I believe twenty seventeen

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Speaker 2: or twenty eighteen somewhere in there. There's only been two

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Speaker 2: things break during this show that I remember being like,

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Speaker 2: oh my goodness. One was an Antonio Brown trade to

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Speaker 2: the Raiders and then this is it and and that

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Speaker 2: was my perspective as well as I saw it come through.

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Speaker 2: And then I talked to producer Ian, and then producer

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Speaker 2: Ian talked to de Sager, who's the voice of reason

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Speaker 2: in this place, and we weren't gonna run it. And

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Speaker 2: I thought the saga handled it perfectly. Of hey, this

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Speaker 2: is out there from an official account, I'll take it

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Speaker 2: a step further. I didn't even when it got from

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Speaker 2: the ESPN official account. I'm like, is this some you know,

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Speaker 2: next level hack that they got into all the ESPN accounts?

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Speaker 2: And it wasn't until, like you said, the second third

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Speaker 2: reporter who is unaffiliated with ESPN. You know that was

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Speaker 2: when I was like, okay, I guess this is official,

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Speaker 2: and then it was on the ESPN, you know, the

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Speaker 2: actual broadcast. It's just it's surreal. But like you said,

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't have been able to sleep. You wouldn't have

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Speaker 2: been able to sleep. I would have been scrolling for

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Speaker 2: more information like everybody else. So just an absolute pleasure.

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Speaker 2: By the way, should mention before we forget Ian crushed

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Speaker 2: it man, thank you for all you did tonight. Mary,

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Speaker 2: Thank you for all you did tonight. Brandon Deutsch left

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Speaker 2: hours ago thinking oh my night's over, what could possibly

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Speaker 2: happen here? But thank you to Ian and Mary and

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Speaker 2: de Sager and j mart and you know, just and

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Speaker 2: Mark Medina by the way for joining us, because I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is just you know, it's one of those nights

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Speaker 2: that you live for. And you know Colin's gonna talk

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Speaker 2: about on Monday and Dan Patrick and gottlie but to

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Speaker 2: be when this happened, I mean, just just absolutely crazy.

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Speaker 2: It's funny too because I was listening to Gottlieb talk

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Speaker 2: about Bronny this week and he made a reference to

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Speaker 2: to like, you know, this is the freaking Lakers and

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Speaker 2: every great that has ever played this sport except for

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Speaker 2: a handful are Lakers. And he went through Wilt and

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Speaker 2: Kareem and Magic and Kobe and Lebron and now you

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Speaker 2: can add Luka Doncic to that list. It's still gonna

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Speaker 2: be surreal the first.

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Speaker 3: Time Purple and gold. Luka Dacic, I can't believe it, man,

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Speaker 3: I can't believe it.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know, does Yellow show fat worse? I

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Speaker 4: don't know. He is not going to influence things. I

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Speaker 4: don't know. I mean, White's supposed to be a problem.

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Speaker 3: So Nico Harrison, the MAVs G I'm sure hope.

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Speaker 4: So it helps.

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Speaker 2: It's not very fitting on the Lakers, Gold on people

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Speaker 2: that might be overweight. All right, we got to get

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Speaker 2: out of here again. Thank you Ian, Thank you Mary

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Speaker 2: for all your hard work. Thank you to Mark Medina

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Speaker 2: for joining us. Make sure to download the Freaking podcast. Okay,

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Speaker 2: you're not gonna get better real time reaction than what

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Speaker 2: we just went through. We were on when it happened,

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Speaker 2: arators for Jason Martin. Coming up next, Bernie Fratto. Make

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Speaker 2: sure to listen to Bernie and again download the podcast

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Speaker 2: Fox What are you