Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast are available for virtual parties. Jeez,
Speaker 1: I being welcome to another edition of the Around the
Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. My name is Dan hansis coming to you
Speaker 1: from the city film The hero In Punker, Mark Setzler,
Speaker 1: Chris Westling, Greg Rose with all what is that boys? Hey, Aunty?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're bad. Sorry, we're starting a little bit late.
Speaker 1: I had a minor catastrophe in the backyard. Uh the
Speaker 1: boys again and again we're getting into what is this
Speaker 1: month three? Or heading towards month three? Week seven, three
Speaker 1: week seven or eight? Yeah, I don't think calendars matter anymore,
Speaker 1: but that's probably accurate. I feel badly for them is
Speaker 1: I want to destroy them, but I also I pity
Speaker 1: them because they haven't. There's only so much they can do.
Speaker 1: And we're all in a similar situation. We all have
Speaker 1: similar sized homes, were all in this kind of like
Speaker 1: same area of the city where we don't we're not
Speaker 1: living in opulent mansions, we don't have help. The children
Speaker 1: can't even go to a park. So I actually cut
Speaker 1: them some slack when they do things like take the
Speaker 1: garden hose and then just spray it at full power
Speaker 1: right against the side of the house, creating potentially a
Speaker 1: foundational issue because we left them unattended for fifteen minutes,
Speaker 1: like this is the stuff that that's happening. Uh, Emily
Speaker 1: and I both work, and that's you got a factor
Speaker 1: in that we are very fortunate that we're both working.
Speaker 1: And everyone on the show has a job, and uh,
Speaker 1: it would be even worse to lose your job, which
Speaker 1: millions of people have. But it is just another reminder
Speaker 1: that everyone, unless you are in that one percent, is
Speaker 1: getting affected by this. And there's no finish line. I
Speaker 1: can't take it. I need a finish line. Someone's gotta
Speaker 1: tell me when this is over, somebody. I don't think
Speaker 1: there isn't over. I mean that that doesn't make people.
Speaker 1: I don't think of people saying, well, the old way
Speaker 1: of life is over forever. I don't want to hear
Speaker 1: that either. It's just different. It's different, but I think
Speaker 1: there's a lot more comfortable different. Uh that's in the future,
Speaker 1: and who who knows when we're when we're getting to that.
Speaker 1: It's gotta it's gotta be different. No matter what. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna get lines that you like about this, Dan.
Speaker 1: I think in general, I mean there's probably a lot
Speaker 1: of think You've probably desire a lot of things right now,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get most of them. I'm at the
Speaker 1: point where I find it funny that a month ago
Speaker 1: was kind of like, hey, this is different and it's
Speaker 1: really cool to like hang out with like old friends
Speaker 1: on Zoom. Now I'm kind of like over most of
Speaker 1: those people and over the Zoom parties. Like I'm totally
Speaker 1: bored with having a beard. Um, there's no none that right.
Speaker 1: I mean, the whole thing is just kind of we
Speaker 1: didn't do a new cycle of ultra boredom, and like
Speaker 1: I have a billion kids kid anecdotes that are happening here,
Speaker 1: but I'm bored by them, Like they're doing the same
Speaker 1: thing day after day, and I like it just feels
Speaker 1: like a zombie march through endless weeks. Zoom peaked, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we lost that as well. Now maybe not for
Speaker 1: like the party set. I don't know, I'm just kind
Speaker 1: of at the party. Well. There are some out there
Speaker 1: that I have actually good information on a few people
Speaker 1: that have basically told me I'm not going to say who,
Speaker 1: that they've never been quarantining at all and have been
Speaker 1: just like floating from like friends houses to friends houses,
Speaker 1: and um, that is a different existence than I think
Speaker 1: the four of us have been UM experiencing was quite irresponsible. Actually,
Speaker 1: I just want to choke slam anyone who uses the
Speaker 1: phrase new normal more than one time in a conversation.
Speaker 1: Stop with the new normal, Like you're safely on a
Speaker 1: different part of this in a different part of the city.
Speaker 1: I didn't say new normal, did I. I don't know
Speaker 1: you're around. I mean, I just answered your question, when
Speaker 1: were you getting back? Also, one of your favorite lines
Speaker 1: is nobody knows, and all that same thing with people
Speaker 1: saying like, listen, things aren't gonna be the way they
Speaker 1: used to be. You don't know, right, Well, I just
Speaker 1: I just mean, until there's a vaccine, I think it's
Speaker 1: a it's a fair or or a great therapeutic treatment.
Speaker 1: There's probably it's a fairer estimation that that things are
Speaker 1: just gonna be a little different. Even if even if
Speaker 1: we're back to work and there's different things going on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, how could it? How could it not be different?
Speaker 1: This is the most seismic world changing event of our lifetime.
Speaker 1: So even if even if it gets to be in
Speaker 1: the rear view mirror like everything that it's changed is
Speaker 1: still going to be changed, you know, like this, you
Speaker 1: know this is it, Like we're gonna be talking about
Speaker 1: this for the rest of our lives. Ricky, give me
Speaker 1: something just recklessly positive about the future, um, recklessly positive.
Speaker 1: Just like, just if we can surve this, if we
Speaker 1: could survive this, we could survive anything. I'm talking like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna that just makes us like spoiled. I think,
Speaker 1: I like people went to war and we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm stuck at home with my Netflix like this socks,
Speaker 1: Like I never want to go back to the office.
Speaker 1: I do the podcast every day, you know, in no pants,
Speaker 1: Like I can't do that at the office. Well, it
Speaker 1: has turned me anti office. Um, I the idea of
Speaker 1: having to you know, I can I basically wear three
Speaker 1: shirts now and um you know you think, well, we
Speaker 1: all get that, we get that no one's wearing pants
Speaker 1: when they're on air and all this other business that's
Speaker 1: that's played out. But it's like we just basically can
Speaker 1: like put the same three or four items into the
Speaker 1: laundry over and over that I like. I like the
Speaker 1: simple nature of some aspects of it. I don't need
Speaker 1: the old dog and pony show of walking around the office,
Speaker 1: you know, given everyone a high five and chatterbox, and
Speaker 1: we're getting some of the same, the same mark fire
Speaker 1: as a normal may you know. So it feels like
Speaker 1: where everything is back then? Well, I mean, where are
Speaker 1: we vacation in this offseason that's been tabled. I mean,
Speaker 1: that doesn't help the mood. Vacation in your living room,
Speaker 1: you know, when the kids go to bed. Nicky's right though, west.
Speaker 1: You know, it could be worse. We could have turned
Speaker 1: eighteen and they put a rifle in our hand, you know,
Speaker 1: sent us off. I was gonna say, wars have for
Speaker 1: the most part dried up around the world. We don't
Speaker 1: live absolutely wars in Africa, in the Middle East would
Speaker 1: like to say hello. You know, this is the least
Speaker 1: bella coast time in history the last years. I mean,
Speaker 1: wars are not nearly the man killers that they were
Speaker 1: throughout history. But now we have pandemics and what I
Speaker 1: believe is the biggest problem world wide and world bide.
Speaker 1: Everybody is mentally ill now and I don't see that
Speaker 1: going away ever. Mm hmmm, wow, Well, let's talk about football.
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying my time with my kids. I mean, the
Speaker 1: church parking lot. Uh, they're sick of us making a
Speaker 1: lot of noise about three hours a day. But like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss that that little parking lot. We've we've
Speaker 1: been biking up and down that thing. We're we're wearing
Speaker 1: it out. Where's it going? Where is the parking lot going? Well,
Speaker 1: I just I feel like, what, Well, it's not going anywhere.
Speaker 1: You're right. We could just keep going to that to
Speaker 1: them a lot for three hours a day. But if
Speaker 1: there's cars in it, right, then the cars will return
Speaker 1: at some point. I believe America and our intervention in
Speaker 1: Iraq still at an act of war. I don't think,
Speaker 1: well that's even technically over Afghanist stand. They did this
Speaker 1: crazy thing. They announced the pull out, but then they
Speaker 1: didn't actually pull out that paper ones at each other
Speaker 1: every once in a while. What's going on there? Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people dying there. Still a lot
Speaker 1: of them are still technically all the time. Anyway, nice
Speaker 1: start to the show. There's just a little bit of frustration,
Speaker 1: that's all. And I think good thing about this podcast
Speaker 1: is we get to share it with each other and
Speaker 1: the audience because I think a lot of you guys
Speaker 1: listening feel the same way. I imagine. All Right, but
Speaker 1: now let's talk about football because it is a release, uh,
Speaker 1: and it is a good distraction. Even if the draft
Speaker 1: is over, We're about to enter quiet area on the
Speaker 1: NFL coundar made even more quiet by potentially potentially by
Speaker 1: the fact that there's not going to be any actual
Speaker 1: organized team activities and mini camps. But we still have
Speaker 1: plenty to talk about. We are going to talk about
Speaker 1: pressure points, uh, in the post draft landscape. Which individuals
Speaker 1: does everybody? Is everybody um talking about players or their
Speaker 1: coaches or their whole teams. I'm not sure what you
Speaker 1: guys came down with, but just individuals or teams that
Speaker 1: are in a pressure point after free agency and the
Speaker 1: draft as we look ahead to the season. But before that,
Speaker 1: let's do some news Hey's week one now, first dance
Speaker 1: to show who we are. Let's play smart, lets play fast,
Speaker 1: play face do they always preach, Let's go and do
Speaker 1: this together, playmakers at Andy Dalton's time with the Cincinnati
Speaker 1: Bengals is officially over. The Bengals released the Glowing ginger
Speaker 1: Man after nine seasons. The Bengals would have taken on
Speaker 1: almost eighteen million in salary by keeping Dalton, and there
Speaker 1: was speculation that that could still happen even after the
Speaker 1: Bengals took Joe Burrow number one overall last week, but
Speaker 1: instead working with Dalton, and I thought this was a
Speaker 1: sign of good faith between team and player. Good job
Speaker 1: by the Bengals. He wants a fresh start, so they
Speaker 1: give him one. And I will note before throwing it
Speaker 1: to you boys that NFL network Steve Wish, our boy,
Speaker 1: our friend of the show, reports that the Jaguars have
Speaker 1: quote legitimate interest in Dalton West. That makes sense to me,
Speaker 1: and I imagine Dalton should find a home relatively quickly,
Speaker 1: and it's a different situation than Cam Newton. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: Jaguars seemed like the only team that we know is interested. Um,
Speaker 1: everyone else is just speculation. They've been tied to the
Speaker 1: Patriots through many different channels. Peter King talked about that
Speaker 1: connection earlier in the week. Um, but the Patriots have
Speaker 1: shown there's been no leak out of there that that
Speaker 1: they're interested. Uh. I'd just like to point out, for
Speaker 1: just a little recap of Dalton's Bengals career, he has
Speaker 1: a higher career winning percentage with the Bengals than Kenny Anderson,
Speaker 1: who I believe should be in the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 1: Boomerissiasin who won the MVP in Carson Palmer, who's uh
Speaker 1: two thousand what year was that two thousand five offense
Speaker 1: was maybe the best offense in Bengals history, right up
Speaker 1: there with the team. Um. He has a higher career
Speaker 1: winning percentage than all of those guys, and he owns
Speaker 1: some franchise record for passing volume. UM. If I can't
Speaker 1: get you to stop using career passing volume stats, uh,
Speaker 1: that should do it, because while while his numbers are higher,
Speaker 1: it's totally the result of the era in which he played.
Speaker 1: And I would say the lows with Andy Dalton were
Speaker 1: lower and the highs not nearly as high as Ken Anderson, Boomerssiasin,
Speaker 1: and Carson Palmer. If we removed Greg Cook, who had
Speaker 1: one of the best rookie seasons in NFL history but
Speaker 1: never played again after that, I'd say he's fourth in
Speaker 1: angles franchise history, behind Anderson, Asiason, and Palmer, and ahead
Speaker 1: of Jeff Blake on the list of best quarterbacks. That's
Speaker 1: it's also for a two thousand eleven second round pick.
Speaker 1: We had very low expectations coming in, right. He he
Speaker 1: ultimately has had a great career. And there was that
Speaker 1: one year you know, they went ten and three while
Speaker 1: Dalton was the starter in he was second in the
Speaker 1: league in yards per tampty and twenty five touchdowns, eight
Speaker 1: interception he had. He had a nice little run and um,
Speaker 1: I think he'll have another few one of those uh
Speaker 1: pressure points or turning points in Bengals history, just like
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer getting his knee blown out in the playoffs
Speaker 1: against the Steelers. I think I'll have a nice you know,
Speaker 1: next five to six seven years as as a borderline
Speaker 1: starter and backup. And it wouldn't surprise me to see
Speaker 1: him starting games with the Jaguars at this point. Hearing
Speaker 1: that they're interested, I'd be surprised if he's anywhere else
Speaker 1: because I think they'll they'll give him a fair backup contract,
Speaker 1: whatever it needs to be, four or five, six seven.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to give him a starter
Speaker 1: type contract. But I just don't see another team out
Speaker 1: there that's gonna just outbid him. Why would he not
Speaker 1: want to play with ja Gruden? He played great under Jagruen, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, and there's no indication that their relationship is
Speaker 1: anything but um, you know, cordial. And if you're Andy Dalton,
Speaker 1: you want to go somewhere where you have a chance
Speaker 1: to start if things, if the wheels fall off. And
Speaker 1: to me, I think he fits the Jaguars um because
Speaker 1: we don't quite know that Gardner Minshew is a plug
Speaker 1: in place, sir. I mean, if I were to make
Speaker 1: a sandwich prop, I would say Andy Dalton starts six
Speaker 1: games in Jacksonville. If he goes there, no problem at all.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just think that's probably how a rough
Speaker 1: season could play out, and exactly six games, because I'll
Speaker 1: take six or more. I mean six or more, But
Speaker 1: I mean it's there are other teams though, now that
Speaker 1: he's out there, um that you know. I look at
Speaker 1: it and I guess the Falcons have just are on
Speaker 1: a it's here eight but it is not job. It's
Speaker 1: like you want a safe guy who won't cause ways,
Speaker 1: like Andy Dalton is your next version of that. Like
Speaker 1: put him in there. He's much better than Matt Show.
Speaker 1: Why would Andy Dalton want to go to Atlanta. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying he'd want to go, he'd want to go
Speaker 1: where he's a chance to start and and that does
Speaker 1: for me feel like it's Jacksonville and little else. The
Speaker 1: Seahawks don't even have a backup quarterback right now. You know,
Speaker 1: he's not a Russell Wilson. If we're talking about backups,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of teams that need back
Speaker 1: The Jets have no backup whatsoever. I can't imagine. I
Speaker 1: can't imagine that they would go even the way they are.
Speaker 1: Bronco say, Drift calls their guy, but you mentioned Seahawks Patriots.
Speaker 1: I think we're only gonna do it if he was
Speaker 1: at the absolute bargain then, And it sounds like I
Speaker 1: think Jacksonville is just gonna happen there quick. How close
Speaker 1: is Dalton's got to be pretty close to the bargain
Speaker 1: ben at this maybe maybe we have no cap space either.
Speaker 1: I just don't think they're paying. They're going for a
Speaker 1: quarterback that's gonna cost any money at all. Feels like
Speaker 1: a great roll the dice. Just like Winston, that was
Speaker 1: a nice place for him to land without a lot
Speaker 1: of leverage. If I was on Andy Dalton, I would
Speaker 1: race to the Patriots if they offered me even a
Speaker 1: low level contract, because the opportunity to start there this
Speaker 1: year if the kid can't play, And I'm just curious,
Speaker 1: do you think that Dalton We shouldn't speculate too much,
Speaker 1: We don't know, but if he did end up in Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: do you think he has a chance to win the
Speaker 1: starting job that weekly? Yes, because of its all relationships
Speaker 1: and Gruden knows how much of a safe player he
Speaker 1: is in terms of being a relatively stable quarterback. And
Speaker 1: Gruden has no ties to Minshew. So if Minshew had
Speaker 1: a some sort of a year two flounder in a
Speaker 1: non training camp season potentially where you roll into games
Speaker 1: and you're just not getting it done the way he
Speaker 1: looked in London in that one game, Dalton would be
Speaker 1: a quick answer to that. Well, yeah, you think about
Speaker 1: who has the advantage Normally the guy who's been there
Speaker 1: in terms of continuity, but Dalton does because Minshew has
Speaker 1: never been in Jay Gruden's offense and Dalton has, So
Speaker 1: I mean he's kind of got a leg up there
Speaker 1: if they miss, you know, assuming they miss offseason practices.
Speaker 1: To be continued on that front. Speaking of Jamis Winston,
Speaker 1: he met with the Saints media on a zoom call
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. On Wednesday, Um, here's what he had to say.
Speaker 1: There's no blurri nous uh And I think that's that's
Speaker 1: that's huge. Depth perception has an increased Like I can
Speaker 1: read license plates, I can read streets science. I think
Speaker 1: the precision in the vision is the biggest difference. That
Speaker 1: is my favorite sense of the offseason, Greg Rose at all,
Speaker 1: I think the precision in the vision is the biggest difference.
Speaker 1: I love Jamis and I love that the state, the
Speaker 1: Saints fans that listened to him, who I feel awkward
Speaker 1: about this whole thing. Well, we gotta root for Jamis Winston.
Speaker 1: No suddenly like him now and just because they realized
Speaker 1: he's a crazy personality. Uh yeah. He mentioned depth perception
Speaker 1: increased tremendously. He didn't just have bad eyes, he had
Speaker 1: a stigmatism. I mean, here, this is a guy who
Speaker 1: was starting in the NFL, you know, having like a
Speaker 1: you know, almost a billion dollar franchise on his shoulders,
Speaker 1: and he couldn't see straight while he was played. What
Speaker 1: if he comes out of this and he's like one
Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks in the league. I mean, if
Speaker 1: it fixes the main issue that would be insane. I
Speaker 1: would say, I'm shocked. Though, that like team doctors who
Speaker 1: are all over players, and even they give coaches monthly
Speaker 1: medical checkups, I mean blood pressure, all that stuff that
Speaker 1: gets those old coaches that are eating ham sandwiches fifty
Speaker 1: days in a row and tacking on forty pounds, Well,
Speaker 1: the players get three times that treatment that you have
Speaker 1: a quarterback with an eye issue. I mean that said,
Speaker 1: I've needed lastic surgery for a decade and haven't gotten it,
Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna kill him too much. But you know,
Speaker 1: the enemy being on the softball team. Let's say you
Speaker 1: had the equivalent of whatever what LASI does to improve eyesight,
Speaker 1: you would need the surgery on your throat that would eat,
Speaker 1: that would correct your throat and make you a way
Speaker 1: better podcaster. Wouldn't you do it if you had the
Speaker 1: ability to do it and the resources. It's just so
Speaker 1: weird to me that he went through the first twenty
Speaker 1: five years of his life, including four for five years
Speaker 1: as an NFL quarterback, and just punted on that until
Speaker 1: his career got up ended. It just he's He's like,
Speaker 1: he's so great West for unattentional comedy. It's one of
Speaker 1: my favorite aspects of the jamis Winston experience. Right, you
Speaker 1: just summed up the problem with Jamis Winston and the
Speaker 1: idea that Lasik would fix everything. His decision making was
Speaker 1: to put off las and lakes and surgery for five years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's fair, But when you have vision problem, I'll say
Speaker 1: one thing, you don't know sometimes what what it looks like.
Speaker 1: I got glasses after like a fifteen year period of
Speaker 1: not being able to see well or you know, making
Speaker 1: up signs when I was driving, because I was just
Speaker 1: assuming what the signs were like. When you get classes,
Speaker 1: you forget what it looked, what it felt like as
Speaker 1: a kid to have that clear vision, to be able
Speaker 1: to even see leaves on a tree. So I wonder,
Speaker 1: you know, Winston didn't wasn't raised in some sort of
Speaker 1: rich household where they got immediate medical care for everything.
Speaker 1: Maybe it just never really clicked in, But it is odd.
Speaker 1: I mean, you think when you get in that college
Speaker 1: football pro world, they would have fixed that right away.
Speaker 1: I just can't wait till we're covering the NF Championship game.
Speaker 1: Breeze got hurt and Winston is the guy that that
Speaker 1: they have that they needed to stop checking in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: that he's the guy who to put them over the top.
Speaker 1: I just cannot foresee just the way sports are and
Speaker 1: the way this guy's career is going, where he just
Speaker 1: seems to be the Forrest Gump of the NFL, where
Speaker 1: he's gonna find himself in high leverage situations with everyone
Speaker 1: watching him, that he doesn't actually end up taking meaningful
Speaker 1: snaps this year. I don't wish Ill Andrew brees, but
Speaker 1: I just learned he's only making one million, which is
Speaker 1: really what a discount. I mean, he's almost at the
Speaker 1: minimum since the last show, so that, you know, compared
Speaker 1: to Taysom Hill, that would indicate that you know, they're
Speaker 1: not putting too much stock into Winston at least not
Speaker 1: in that that the fact that they got him at
Speaker 1: that price is is wild after a five thousand yards season.
Speaker 1: Remember that postseason press conference when he was talking about
Speaker 1: getting a hundred million dollar contract. Improser like, I guess
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go look for someone else. Our
Speaker 1: our network said that he was um, I didn't really
Speaker 1: want the franchise tag because he was expecting to make
Speaker 1: more than that. The franchise tag would have been for
Speaker 1: like twenty seven eight million dollars Well, isn't that what
Speaker 1: your agent needs to step in a little bit and
Speaker 1: stay Let's take a look at reality here. I think
Speaker 1: that is the agent. I think I think the agent
Speaker 1: did a bad job. It's one of the great sliding
Speaker 1: doors and it will be of this decade of NFL
Speaker 1: football if Winston doesn't flame out in those last two
Speaker 1: weeks and throw six or seven picks, including a season
Speaker 1: ending pick six? Uh? Do the Bucks proceed with him
Speaker 1: going forward to they give him the fact contract? Does
Speaker 1: Tom Brady end up somewhere else? Does he stay in
Speaker 1: New England? It will never ever know. Alright. Finally, one
Speaker 1: last bit of quarterback sizzle. Uh, someone got in touch
Speaker 1: with Brett Farve. And you knew they were gonna get
Speaker 1: in touch with Brett Farve about this Aaron Rodgers Jordan's
Speaker 1: love business, because famously, when Aaron Rodgers was drafted in
Speaker 1: two thousand five, Brett Farve gave him the cold shoulder
Speaker 1: and thought the Packers were doing them dirty, and it
Speaker 1: led to, you know, a lot of histrionics around that
Speaker 1: organization for a few years. Well, now they want to
Speaker 1: see what far thinks about Rogers, who apparently is his buddy.
Speaker 1: Now here's what he told Rich eyes And on the
Speaker 1: Rich Eisen Show on the NBC Sports Network. You do
Speaker 1: you cut me off? You think you think he will
Speaker 1: not end his career as a Green Bay Packer just
Speaker 1: like you. Um My gut tells me no. And I
Speaker 1: don't know there's certain but I guarantee you it's got
Speaker 1: the wheels turning in Aaron's mind. Which which if? If
Speaker 1: that's the case, and that means that there's a chip
Speaker 1: on the shoulder towards the organization that otherwise was not there.
Speaker 1: And so he all he needs is a reason other
Speaker 1: than this reason, uh, to expedite that. Rogers is thirty
Speaker 1: six years old. He has four years and thirty four
Speaker 1: million left on the extension he signed a couple of
Speaker 1: years back, and when you dig into that contract, you
Speaker 1: almost cannot trade him without completely sinking your organization financially
Speaker 1: with the cap until after next season. Uh So, if
Speaker 1: Rogers does move, it would be very difficult, uh pill
Speaker 1: for the Packers to swallow before two season Five's comments
Speaker 1: remind me so much of Tom Brady's dad about five
Speaker 1: years ago when he said it ends, it doesn't end, well,
Speaker 1: it never does. It's a business. Feelings get hurt and
Speaker 1: it doesn't end well. And who knows if that for
Speaker 1: Rogers is one year or three years. I think that
Speaker 1: he's the one who determines that. Yeah, Jordan's love might
Speaker 1: determine it too, though, if Jordan loves a bust, it's
Speaker 1: just gonna change. It's just gonna change the equation. Um.
Speaker 1: The most interesting thing about that interview to me, with
Speaker 1: between Five and Eisen was that, you know, Five and
Speaker 1: Rogers talked that that that Aaron Rodgers gave Brett Farve
Speaker 1: a call after this and wanted to talk about it.
Speaker 1: So well, they've been working on a documentary together for
Speaker 1: a couple of years. I mean not day after day,
Speaker 1: but there have been there has been contact in Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they really are tight. And and while Five started
Speaker 1: the interview by saying he's not going to pass along
Speaker 1: you know what Rogers said because he didn't want to
Speaker 1: be trade that confidence, I mean he basically did in
Speaker 1: the end. I mean he basically in the clip the
Speaker 1: clip that you don't you know, the quote that we
Speaker 1: that we heard, you know, he basically that the wheels
Speaker 1: are are grinding and that he's going to have something
Speaker 1: against the team, and that that basically wasn't too fired up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all he needed was a reason to expedite the process,
Speaker 1: essentially in play elsewhere, Brett Farve said, And then you're
Speaker 1: you're right about the Tom Brady's father comments. I mean,
Speaker 1: that is Brady and the Patriots not not not ugly
Speaker 1: to the degree of Rogers and Farv and all that business.
Speaker 1: But you know Peyton Manning Joe Montana when he left
Speaker 1: to go to the Chiefs, that was a little messy itself.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're being someone is replacing you. But my
Speaker 1: one thing is, I don't know how we know that
Speaker 1: Jordan's love is a bust until he gets along a
Speaker 1: long leash to play and and that would itself cause
Speaker 1: major issues with Aaron Rodgers. So Ricky, you have a
Speaker 1: take on this whole Roger saga. Yeah, um, lately on
Speaker 1: the Bachelor spinoff listen to your Heart, it's where they
Speaker 1: couple up based on music as well, and there are
Speaker 1: music for It's So Crammy Bad. But Jordan Rodgers was
Speaker 1: a guest judge this week. Looks really like the better
Speaker 1: looking version of Aaron. Well, he got cleaned up. He
Speaker 1: went the whole Hollywood angle, right, But you know they
Speaker 1: went in deep on his family relationship. Um, and that's
Speaker 1: that's all I have to say. That's I saw him
Speaker 1: this week, all right, so there so just to put
Speaker 1: a button on that, Erica saw Jordan Rodgers on a
Speaker 1: reality television show this week, Yes, this week. Carry on.
Speaker 1: I feel like you have information and you're holding back
Speaker 1: from us. But we will get to that another time.
Speaker 1: You're keeping us in touch with the young kids. I
Speaker 1: didn't even know about this show that it existed, The
Speaker 1: Bachelors for young kids. I think it's for like this
Speaker 1: with a lot of free time, are watching what is
Speaker 1: this called. It's called The Bachelor Presents. Listen to your heart.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's it's like it's so bad but
Speaker 1: running out of personal ideas and projects again the cousin
Speaker 1: Oliver Brady Bunch thing here, It's like, what are we
Speaker 1: gonna do here? J Jordan Rodgers was, you know, dancing
Speaker 1: during one of their performances and he's like, I could
Speaker 1: feel your chemistry on stage and then he was like,
Speaker 1: I hate Aaron Rodgers. This is a lot of comment.
Speaker 1: Read a book, crack a book open once in a while,
Speaker 1: put the reality shows away. It's all I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: for everyone watching these shows to the point where, okay,
Speaker 1: you watched the bad sir, but that wasn't enough. Now
Speaker 1: you need the Bachelor cast off with cousin Oliver West.
Speaker 1: Get off your high horse. I just finished a big
Speaker 1: book and yesterday I listened to jazz while I played cards.
Speaker 1: And if I want to literally relax with the glass
Speaker 1: of wine and wash some stupid TV, you can shove
Speaker 1: it right where the sun's don't shine. I love it silent.
Speaker 1: I mean, what are you gonna do. You can't help
Speaker 1: people who won't help themselves. Oh my god, I'll destroy you,
Speaker 1: all right. And what I don't think, I don't see.
Speaker 1: I think she was talking about cornhole. Remember when we
Speaker 1: used to play cornhole? Remember least each other in the
Speaker 1: same area. And I remember fred eggs and cheers. I
Speaker 1: remember Stop your life, man, that was awesome. I only
Speaker 1: read books, all right, Erica, stop making trouble. Scram that's
Speaker 1: what she's still in the screen, by the way, bye,
Speaker 1: all right, that's what's happening in the news. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get right to it. Um pressure points under pressure.
Speaker 1: Can I do it? Everyone's counting on me. I can't
Speaker 1: let them down. Players who in the post free agency,
Speaker 1: post draft landscape. Did I explain that before the show
Speaker 1: started or after. Except's not gonna make sense to people
Speaker 1: if they don't. You did, you did? I said it
Speaker 1: during the show. It was yeah, it was part of
Speaker 1: our show. Shut up. Um. I had a cousin, or
Speaker 1: I still have a cousin, Jimmy. We'd play whiffleball, all
Speaker 1: the cousins, and he was susceptible to mental games. So
Speaker 1: when we when he was at the plate in a
Speaker 1: big spot in the whiffleball game, we the opposing team
Speaker 1: would just start to like very kind of under our breath,
Speaker 1: but loud enough that he could hear in the batter's
Speaker 1: box say things like pressure, pressure, everyone's counting at me. Wait,
Speaker 1: how old is cousin? Jimmy was probably seven? You know,
Speaker 1: here are any running train on his psyche? I mean
Speaker 1: we were ten, you know, nine, But uh and uh,
Speaker 1: sometimes it would it would get to him and he
Speaker 1: would get out of his mindset and struggle and you
Speaker 1: know what was you should you should agree? I mean,
Speaker 1: you grew up in a house with what seven other boys?
Speaker 1: Six other boys? I mean, I'm sure that stuff happened
Speaker 1: all the time, everybody knew what buttons to push and
Speaker 1: how to get ahead, especially in sports. I think which
Speaker 1: buttons to push is very well said. I don't know
Speaker 1: that we ever picked on one of the others for
Speaker 1: being like mentally deficient or psychologically mentally deficient. He was
Speaker 1: just susceptible to that level. Right now, does he have
Speaker 1: very successful Okay? Yeah, I think in backyard like whiffleball,
Speaker 1: there aren't as many like pressure moments as there might be.
Speaker 1: Saying in the World Series. I mean if yeah, if
Speaker 1: you're feeling if he's feeling pressure, then sports probably is
Speaker 1: not going to be the avenue he he goes down,
Speaker 1: you know, are probably not for you taking bullets all
Speaker 1: over the body. I still whe of O. I think
Speaker 1: of the west household in West Cincinnati. I just think
Speaker 1: about Mama Westling bringing home that t bone and just
Speaker 1: throwing it to the bottom of depths, and then the
Speaker 1: boys just fighting for it and tearing it apart. That
Speaker 1: was more like the bucket of peanut butter, not a
Speaker 1: t bone. Today when we get together with you, please,
Speaker 1: my best friend was was a brick. Was a brick.
Speaker 1: My favorite toy was a stick in a wheel Erica
Speaker 1: Erica just came in to laugh on the screen. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get to it. You know what, West you and
Speaker 1: I've we've met all your brothers. They're all we're almost
Speaker 1: all of them, all well adjusted men for the most part.
Speaker 1: And I think that that helped them grow, didn't it.
Speaker 1: That a lot of character and politicians, a lot of
Speaker 1: character building and great parents, great parenting there. So yeah,
Speaker 1: no complaints. I'm just continuous now to annoy Greg. Now, wait,
Speaker 1: why are you? Why would it be annoying me? I
Speaker 1: would want to I would. I would welcome a Westling
Speaker 1: brother podcast. I love it. Greg's almost like the eighth
Speaker 1: Westling brother. I mean, you've been you've been missing one
Speaker 1: for a while. I could just you know, step in.
Speaker 1: Greg would fit in well. Everybody talking over the other,
Speaker 1: shouting each other down, it would be Greg would fit
Speaker 1: in perfectly with the Western Greg lobbying to replace one
Speaker 1: of the brothers who's in a bit of a tough
Speaker 1: position right now. That's saying he hasn't been you know,
Speaker 1: you know, carrying his weight lately. That's all. We'll have
Speaker 1: a chance, depends what other people say. All right, let's
Speaker 1: get to it. Who's under pressure who's facing um an
Speaker 1: added level of pressure now that the draft and the
Speaker 1: free agency uh periods of ended. Greg get us going,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna start in Washington. Feel like we
Speaker 1: have not talked about the Washington football team at all.
Speaker 1: How about UM, Dwayne Haskins and Scott Turner. Remember Dwayne Haskins,
Speaker 1: I mean he was taking about five rounds before Gardner
Speaker 1: Minshew and UM. I feel like this point, everyone's already
Speaker 1: given up on Haskins, even though he was the top
Speaker 1: sixteen pick and he at least at some moments, I
Speaker 1: don't think you could throw away his career because of
Speaker 1: a rough rookie start. They are under pressure because you know,
Speaker 1: they take Chase Young in the first round. They they
Speaker 1: take a couple of flyers on offensive guys, Antonio Gibson,
Speaker 1: who's kind of like a running back wide receiver type,
Speaker 1: but they trade away Trent Williams. And you have a
Speaker 1: first time coordinator in Scott Turner, and you have Dwayne Haskins,
Speaker 1: and your skill position group is Terry McLaurin, Kelvin Harmon
Speaker 1: and Trey Quinn, who was kind of an intriguing young
Speaker 1: receiver group. But it's a new offense and a young
Speaker 1: quarterback who's gonna try to make all of those guys better.
Speaker 1: You still have Adrian Peterson and geiss As you're running
Speaker 1: game like they're gonna have to go out there and
Speaker 1: try to come I forgot about that guy in and
Speaker 1: survive in in a year where teams are just loaded
Speaker 1: on offense, and it's like, here you go, Haskins, prove
Speaker 1: us wrong, because if not, you're gonna get benched. For
Speaker 1: For Kyle Allen, who we brought over from Carolina, that's
Speaker 1: a good one. He was on my list to Greg,
Speaker 1: Haskins simply has to take a big step forward. And yeah,
Speaker 1: we look at the rookie quarterbacks. They deserve that time
Speaker 1: too if you believe in them, and especially at their
Speaker 1: premium pick. I feel like you can't bury him for
Speaker 1: having a tough rookie year. But the thing with Haskins is,
Speaker 1: and whether it was fair or not, there was that
Speaker 1: chatter that he might not love it, that he might
Speaker 1: not live and breathe this, that he might not be
Speaker 1: working as hard as he has to work. So if
Speaker 1: that's actually a little bit of a concern in that building,
Speaker 1: he needs to rectify that and show them that he
Speaker 1: lives and breathes it and will put in the work
Speaker 1: to be a true star. Otherwise they're just gonna move on.
Speaker 1: They're gonna go get somebody else with different leadership. The
Speaker 1: only thing I'd say is Scott Turner spent a couple
Speaker 1: of months watching every snap of Haskins and whether you
Speaker 1: believe Ron Rivera or not, and I think Chase Young
Speaker 1: has a lot to do with it. He said recently
Speaker 1: in a conference call that there was literally zero contemplation
Speaker 1: around taking a quarterback. So I don't know if that
Speaker 1: means because of Chase Young there was no debate um
Speaker 1: or were they liked enough of what they saw from
Speaker 1: Haskins in an offense that looked like it was shot
Speaker 1: out of nineteen thirty two where they wanted to which
Speaker 1: I loved. Finished games in an hour and forty five
Speaker 1: minutes by running the ball sixty times, So it's not
Speaker 1: really wasn't really a showcase scenario for Haskins. But jury
Speaker 1: is out, it would be interesting to watch the other
Speaker 1: side of the ball at at pass rusher after dracing
Speaker 1: drafting Chase Young. Ryan Carragan is going to be thirty
Speaker 1: two years old and has a real good shot at
Speaker 1: clear in one hundred sacks for his career. Quietly they
Speaker 1: draft Montes Sweat last year in the first round. Who's
Speaker 1: getting bench for Chase Young to play? I guess they'll
Speaker 1: find a way for everyone to get snaps, But I
Speaker 1: have a feeling Sweat and Carragan might be splitting those snaps.
Speaker 1: And one last thing, and we we reported on this
Speaker 1: and wrote it up on NFL dot com Today. Ron Rivera,
Speaker 1: the Redskins coach, uh told Good Morning Football that the
Speaker 1: idea of Cam Newton following him to Washington. Quote depends
Speaker 1: on the circumstances that, to me, would be the last
Speaker 1: thing you'd want to do. You might as well. You
Speaker 1: might as well punt on Haskins. Now, if you bring
Speaker 1: Newton in that building, and I guess I'm of two minds.
Speaker 1: You want to get the best play possible and and
Speaker 1: have the best quarterback possible. But if you bring in Newton,
Speaker 1: you're basically telling the fans and Haskins you have serious doubt.
Speaker 1: And is Cam Newton gonna be sitting on the bench
Speaker 1: or sixteen games behind Haskins. I just don't see it.
Speaker 1: I don't see that as a healthy avenue for this
Speaker 1: team to go time with you. But I feel like they,
Speaker 1: you know, the experience combining with Cam Newton. They went
Speaker 1: and got the Carolina quarterback they liked better, and Al
Speaker 1: Smith is still floating around somewhere. The question has to
Speaker 1: be asked, why don't you think the same way about
Speaker 1: Drew Lock and the Broncos as you do about Haskins
Speaker 1: and the Redskins. No, I mean, I I get it,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I'm of two minds if but
Speaker 1: also I guess the investment too. I'm factoring in that, uh,
Speaker 1: the first round pick, what was at the top ten pick,
Speaker 1: a top fifteen six that I don't know, you kind
Speaker 1: of undercut any belief in him, and Drew Lock was
Speaker 1: a second rounder, I believe, But I see your point.
Speaker 1: There was fair enough, all right, West you go, I'm
Speaker 1: looking at Baker Mayfield. Um. With the offseason the Browns
Speaker 1: have had. There were a lot of years we had
Speaker 1: high expectations last year, but there were a lot of reasons,
Speaker 1: specifically the offensive line that it didn't work out. But
Speaker 1: then to add Austin Hooper to add Um, who is
Speaker 1: a Harrison Bryant who they got, they had Geddrick Willis
Speaker 1: right tackle, Jack Conklin, Jack Conklin. Uh. They They've got
Speaker 1: a whole new offense. They're loaded, and I think the
Speaker 1: excuses are just out the window. They even got a
Speaker 1: good backup who. I'm not saying Baker Mayfield can't survive
Speaker 1: a slump at this point, but you know, first round
Speaker 1: picks have been benched for extended slumps, so there is
Speaker 1: pressure there. I think the expectations this year they're not
Speaker 1: gonna be as high nationwide, but they should be in Cleveland.
Speaker 1: This This offense is more loaded than they were a
Speaker 1: year ago, I'd ask. I'd add also that they added
Speaker 1: someone in case Keenum, who Kevin Stefanski knows very well
Speaker 1: and trust. So I'm not saying case Keenum is a
Speaker 1: prefitable quarterback to Baker Mayfield. But it's not like you
Speaker 1: go from Baker Mayfield into an untested Abyss. There is
Speaker 1: someone in a slumps you could lean on. I mean,
Speaker 1: it feels to me a little bit like the Browns
Speaker 1: and I mentally am doing this too. Um are not
Speaker 1: really being talked about as a playoff ready team when
Speaker 1: you see these like teams that kind of killed the
Speaker 1: off season they're kind of being left off some of
Speaker 1: those lists just because I think we're human and we
Speaker 1: were totally exhausted with that storyline that turned into UM
Speaker 1: total midnight last season. And I couldn't agree with you
Speaker 1: more that Baker Mayfield. And there you know, Stefanski noted
Speaker 1: that he, unlike what happened with Mayfield a year ago,
Speaker 1: has given him a laundry list of things he needs
Speaker 1: to work on and accountably show that he's made progress on,
Speaker 1: which is not the case last year and a totally
Speaker 1: disastrous UM run team. I just think it was run
Speaker 1: so poorly and he was a victim of that UM
Speaker 1: But I would I would agree. I would say more
Speaker 1: if you come out of this season and Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: was the problem and not the solution to a stuff
Speaker 1: like a star studded offense, than anything could happen anything
Speaker 1: you hit on it there, Mark, I think the biggest
Speaker 1: thing they did it might turn out being sweeping out
Speaker 1: of woefully unprepared and unable to function coaching staff. On
Speaker 1: top of it, because the roster even going into free
Speaker 1: agency this year, was pretty good. The line needed to
Speaker 1: be improved, and they certainly did that, But when you
Speaker 1: factor in the player, the roster improvements, the new coaching
Speaker 1: staff with Stefanski, will see what he can do in
Speaker 1: the big chair. But he's a guy who can work
Speaker 1: with quarterbacks. There is pressure on Mayfield. But also if
Speaker 1: you're a Browns fan, Mark, I imagine you're thrilled that
Speaker 1: they basically instead of um, you know, going in a
Speaker 1: different direction or questioning the quarterback coming off a bad year,
Speaker 1: they said, no, we're gonna build up all round him
Speaker 1: and give him another shot, essentially a mulligan on Twente.
Speaker 1: They had a much more organized and and I thought
Speaker 1: effective offseason this year than last year. It's just that
Speaker 1: I get the exhaustion around that. I mean they're loaded.
Speaker 1: They're absolutely loaded. And if they didn't make the playoffs,
Speaker 1: it's like Stefanski has done just as bad a job
Speaker 1: as Freddie Kitchens, or something crazy happens injuries, what you know,
Speaker 1: things can happen, but they are loaded. I mean we
Speaker 1: don't even mention hunting Chubb. I mean the fact that
Speaker 1: joke who is like their second or third tight end.
Speaker 1: I mean that there and unless unless the rookie or
Speaker 1: Conklin doesn't work out, you know, if Will is moving
Speaker 1: to the left side. You know, you don't know he's
Speaker 1: a rookie that that could be an issue. But if
Speaker 1: those tackles are good, I mean they are loaded, and
Speaker 1: they should be in the mix of that second tier
Speaker 1: right behind the Chiefs in the Ravens outside of Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 1: is there a quarterback with more to work with right
Speaker 1: and surrounding talent? And to that point, if Mayfield got
Speaker 1: off to a slow start, how long is his leash
Speaker 1: with Keenham ready to cook and having a coach that
Speaker 1: he's worked with and it succeeded, So there is pressure.
Speaker 1: I'm the kid, But you know what, Mark, you get
Speaker 1: the feeling that he's built to handle that as long
Speaker 1: as he doesn't, you know, talk too much to the media.
Speaker 1: I think there's a little bit of like I wouldn't
Speaker 1: ask anyone to go do this because it would be
Speaker 1: a painful exercise. But if you go watch some of
Speaker 1: the better Baker Mayfield haves and moments like he was
Speaker 1: doing some of the stuff he was doing in but
Speaker 1: you mix in a lot of stuff he wasn't doing
Speaker 1: in eighteen, which was concerning Alright, Uh, go ahead, Mark,
Speaker 1: you know, I look at Tampa Bay where I really
Speaker 1: feel like the last um kind of question mark in
Speaker 1: another very loaded offense. Beyond some offensive line issues, is
Speaker 1: the planet running back where they were? I thought Bruce
Speaker 1: Arians openly telecasts that they're going to go find a
Speaker 1: pass catching back, UM, which makes all the sense in
Speaker 1: the world for anyone that's watched Tom Brady over the
Speaker 1: last five six years, and they addressed in the draft. Now,
Speaker 1: they didn't address it like in round one or two, UM,
Speaker 1: but they went and got Cashawn Vaughan, who Arian called
Speaker 1: a three down back, And they also got Raymond Calais,
Speaker 1: who Arians referred to as a kind of much smaller
Speaker 1: David Johnson but with some David Johnson type skill set,
Speaker 1: so neither one of them were like premier pass catchers
Speaker 1: in college. Vaughan certainly grew towards the end um in
Speaker 1: that in that area, and someone that Arian sees could
Speaker 1: play three downs. The pressure point for me is Ronald Jones,
Speaker 1: who I know West really liked Um moments from Ronald Jones.
Speaker 1: I thought they had a really good running back there,
Speaker 1: and I just don't see Um how he fits in.
Speaker 1: And other than anything but a really reduced um stable
Speaker 1: unless these rookies don't work out. But I mean the
Speaker 1: pass catching side of this. If they want to give
Speaker 1: Tom Brady the kind of offense that he would desire,
Speaker 1: I think matters a lot because you look at James
Speaker 1: White and he wasn't just prolific. He caught nearly two
Speaker 1: hundred passes in the regular season over the last two
Speaker 1: years and another twenty five in the playoffs. So if
Speaker 1: this is a big part of their offense, you're looking
Speaker 1: at some developing question marks on how it all plays out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: i'd see Ronald Jones is sort of the Sony Michelle there.
Speaker 1: He's gonna play on running downs. It wasn't just that
Speaker 1: I was happy with the way he ran. The coaching
Speaker 1: staff was happy with the way way he ran and
Speaker 1: said as much. But he they don't trust him in
Speaker 1: the passing game. They just don't trust him to keep
Speaker 1: tom Brady um clean back there. So it wouldn't surprise
Speaker 1: me to see those rookies play ahead of him on
Speaker 1: passing downs. Wait, I mean tom Brady coaches up the
Speaker 1: running backs and the receivers. I think that you know
Speaker 1: and and if he doesn't trust you, then he disposes
Speaker 1: of you quickly. But he has had one of those
Speaker 1: guys next to him his entire career, whether it was
Speaker 1: Kevin Falk, I mean, whether it's Ben Jarvis green Ellis
Speaker 1: for a little bit, they are they all weren't stars.
Speaker 1: But then it's Danny Woodhead and James White like the
Speaker 1: guys that he ends up choosing, and usually there's like
Speaker 1: a couple in the mix. And then like it's it's
Speaker 1: the one who can pass protect and he's the one
Speaker 1: who can think the same way Brady as and I'm
Speaker 1: sure he's gonna be anxious to get on the field
Speaker 1: with these guys like Keyshawan von because like if if
Speaker 1: you only have or four weeks, that that's something that
Speaker 1: that's going to hurt the young skill position players really
Speaker 1: at every position. Uh, let me close it with the
Speaker 1: entire team, the Buffalo Bills. I'll narrow it down a
Speaker 1: little bit in a bit, but think about where they're
Speaker 1: at right now, and think about their roster in comparison
Speaker 1: to the other rosters in the a f C East
Speaker 1: and a draft that was successful before it even began
Speaker 1: because you filled a huge need, uh in a number
Speaker 1: one ish wide receiver with Stefan Diggs that costs you
Speaker 1: your first round pick and then they add a second
Speaker 1: round pick that everybody seems to love, a j Epenenza
Speaker 1: et Penessa, a Penzaza that could mitigate some of the
Speaker 1: concerns people had about the defensive line being weakened with
Speaker 1: the loss of Shack Lawson and others. I think that
Speaker 1: this team is going to be dealing with something that
Speaker 1: this organization hasn't really had to deal with in multiple decades,
Speaker 1: which is expectations. You're expected You're gonna be expected to
Speaker 1: dethrone the New England Patriots. And it's not gonna be
Speaker 1: like can they do it? People are gonna expect them
Speaker 1: to do it, and teams have wilted under less pressure
Speaker 1: in the past. And this idea that you need to
Speaker 1: be better than they went ten at six last year.
Speaker 1: They need to be better than that for the season
Speaker 1: to be successful, I think. And I'll narrow it down
Speaker 1: to the quarterback and Josh Allen, who we've talked about
Speaker 1: a lot. Some people believe in him more than others.
Speaker 1: The Bills fans certainly do. I think we were all
Speaker 1: a little spooked by his performance in the second half
Speaker 1: of that playoff loss to the Texans. But it's interesting
Speaker 1: that they went and got that guy Jake from UH
Speaker 1: from Georgia who fell to the fifth round and was
Speaker 1: seen by many as a great move by the Bills
Speaker 1: because from had a much higher UM draft stock. People
Speaker 1: thought going into the game the draft, what happens if
Speaker 1: Alan plat toes, which I think is a coin flip.
Speaker 1: To be quite honest, I I would not be shocked
Speaker 1: at off. Josh Allen is not the man like they
Speaker 1: want him to be. With a new backup quarterback with expectations,
Speaker 1: there is the possibility of pressure getting to this team.
Speaker 1: Or they got thirteen and three and they they are
Speaker 1: the new dogs in the a f C East. But
Speaker 1: we shall see. MH. They have to play better than
Speaker 1: last year. I don't think they were as good as
Speaker 1: their record. You're not gonna have. The Jets and Dolphins
Speaker 1: at times last year were so bad as to be
Speaker 1: non competitive. I don't see that happening again. Um they
Speaker 1: had a pretty easy schedule this team. I think the
Speaker 1: next step is you can't tell yourself you're gonna win
Speaker 1: games with eight teen points. You gotta start scoring twenty
Speaker 1: five or more regularly in order to be what you
Speaker 1: say that they think they are or what they The
Speaker 1: pressure will be to be the favorites in the East.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna knock off the Patriots, you can't be
Speaker 1: an eighteen to twenty point offense into the credit. I
Speaker 1: think they knew that and they've they've built up their offense.
Speaker 1: I mean that that's why you make the move for
Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs. You know they've they've done such a good
Speaker 1: job that they brought back the entire offensive line, but
Speaker 1: they have some depth there. They've got depth throughout the roster.
Speaker 1: I mean it looks great. It really does look great
Speaker 1: on paper, and Alan doesn't have to play much better.
Speaker 1: Even as much as I've been on him, I think
Speaker 1: he's a functional NFL quarterback. I just questioned, like the
Speaker 1: the upside and whether he's ever gonna whether he's gonna
Speaker 1: be better than average. But if he, if he plays
Speaker 1: this year next you like he did last year, like
Speaker 1: they should win games. The schedule is a is a
Speaker 1: big part of it. And to your point, then the
Speaker 1: expectations can't you know, what, how do you handle being
Speaker 1: two and three because you're not going to be piling
Speaker 1: up wins over the Redskins and Giants like the the
Speaker 1: a f C schedule just worked out for everyone. The
Speaker 1: Patriots weren't as good as the record, the Jets weren't
Speaker 1: as good as the record, the Dolphins weren't as good
Speaker 1: as the record, and this year it looks a lot
Speaker 1: tougher on paper. Well, I was gonna say one strength
Speaker 1: they have is to me, Sean McDermott. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: easy to forget he tugged a pretty bad Bills team
Speaker 1: in the playoffs three years ago, and there's been a consistent,
Speaker 1: UM I think be line towards success with him and
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean. And you know, there are a handful of
Speaker 1: teams that UM would wish to run as smoothly as
Speaker 1: the Bills do right now. And to me, they're not
Speaker 1: a team that is, UM. You know, a bunch of big,
Speaker 1: egotistical guys are gonna clash and crumble the same way
Speaker 1: some others would. I I like what the Bills are
Speaker 1: are doing. But you're right then that is suddenly the
Speaker 1: Patriots are seven and one, and you know, with Jared
Speaker 1: Stidham and the Bills are four and four and with
Speaker 1: a lot of issues. Then then the pressure starts to mount.
Speaker 1: But um, everything that Shal mcdermot's done up from when
Speaker 1: the minute he's been hired, and it's easy to remember
Speaker 1: how tumultuous coaches and gms were in that Bills building
Speaker 1: for so long that um, it's I just I see
Speaker 1: the arrow up for them all the way I do.
Speaker 1: They did bring in Stefon Diggs, a guy that you
Speaker 1: wonder how he'll handle a long winter in western New
Speaker 1: York if Josh Allen is struggling. But if you want
Speaker 1: to get any great doubt, most of them are gonna
Speaker 1: be there. There's a diva factor to these guys, and
Speaker 1: either you do you stay away from not everyone who's vocals.
Speaker 1: He is on Twitter and that I'm not that worried
Speaker 1: about it. But do you think they're gonna ask Alan
Speaker 1: to do more this year? Because that's sometimes it could
Speaker 1: be the enemy of success. I'm thinking of a guy that,
Speaker 1: like Mark Sanchez during the Jets, stays where it's like
Speaker 1: we do believe in them, and he's been pretty promising
Speaker 1: this first couple of years. Let's have him throw the
Speaker 1: ball more because we think you'd give it a star,
Speaker 1: and then that could lead to the offense taking a
Speaker 1: step back. I wonder what digs there if they if
Speaker 1: they're gonna put more on Alan's plate, and if they do,
Speaker 1: can you handle it. I think they're gonna throw more.
Speaker 1: I mean they have Dawson Knox the tight end, Tyler
Speaker 1: Crofts coming back, you know there. I liked um pick
Speaker 1: a running back to Zack Moss behind single time. I
Speaker 1: mean they're gonna throw it a lot. I like Dable,
Speaker 1: their their offensive coordinator has done a good job, I
Speaker 1: think building around Alan's strength and kind of making him
Speaker 1: the best version that he can be. So I have
Speaker 1: no reason to think that they won't kind of um
Speaker 1: develop him that way this year to make him look good,
Speaker 1: like play to his drinks. Over under start with US
Speaker 1: wins for the Buffalo Bills nine and a half. I'll
Speaker 1: take the over, Greg, I'll take the under. But it's
Speaker 1: funny because I'm gonna be picking them, I'm sure, like
Speaker 1: when we do all the little schedules, I'll put it
Speaker 1: that over because I do think they're gonna win. They're
Speaker 1: gonna be my pick to win the division. But that's hard.
Speaker 1: It's hard, like so many things can happen. I go
Speaker 1: under nine and a half for almost every team in
Speaker 1: the a f C except for Greg answer Mark, I'll
Speaker 1: go I think I think there go about ten and
Speaker 1: six again in a different way than they did last year,
Speaker 1: and will that be good enough to win the division?
Speaker 1: It might. I mean, I'm not convinced that the Jets
Speaker 1: or Dolphins are about to, you know, skyrocket into the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I'm banging the under. I'm gonna say someone else is
Speaker 1: gonna win that division other than the Patriots. Pats. I
Speaker 1: could see nine and seven winning that division. I could
Speaker 1: see it being one of the worst divisions in football,
Speaker 1: like like it's been for the most are um for
Speaker 1: the last decade. All right, good stuff, good stuff. We
Speaker 1: will be back on Monday. How about that our regularly
Speaker 1: scheduled offseason schedule. So we'll be Monday, Wednesday, Friday. What
Speaker 1: is the schedule? At least when is that happening? They
Speaker 1: ninth by by May nine, I mean they keep in.
Speaker 1: One of our reporters said to keep an eye on
Speaker 1: the seventh as the date. So that's your favorite time
Speaker 1: of the year schedule at least time. I mean every year,
Speaker 1: it's bad enough they tell you, hey, can't wait for
Speaker 1: these games that are gonna happen in seven months. Now,
Speaker 1: it's like, can't wait for these games are gonna happen
Speaker 1: in an indetermined future. Well, you're gonna have to company
Speaker 1: man this one. I'm sorry, you gotta. I want you
Speaker 1: to write. I want you to lead your article about
Speaker 1: the schedule at least with that. Yeah, here, analyze these games.
Speaker 1: What what do you mean? Analyze them like the place
Speaker 1: in an uncertain future. You have an incredible appetite for
Speaker 1: reading and knowledge. You should know that. Our features editor
Speaker 1: Ali bam Party connected with me this morning to ask
Speaker 1: if I will be again writing the Revenge Games about
Speaker 1: the schedule at least, and I said absolutely, sir, yep,
Speaker 1: I have the easiest schedules, so I'm assuming West he'll
Speaker 1: be ringing your doorbell soon with the request of his own.
Speaker 1: I have to top ten offenses due on Monday. That's
Speaker 1: not that I've got. Yeah, I've got tough schedules. I
Speaker 1: got TOPI happy to write the schedule article as long
Speaker 1: as they print what I write, as long as they
Speaker 1: pay you. It's always they print how I write it.
Speaker 1: How about the you know, I do like finding out
Speaker 1: like the Thanksgiving games, and we'll see at least what
Speaker 1: their schedule for the London games. Yeah, we world, West
Speaker 1: stand like I loved when the schedule would come out
Speaker 1: and I'd find it in like USA today and wore
Speaker 1: over it for hours like you that also did nothing
Speaker 1: freezing somewhere West like. At no point in my life
Speaker 1: was a May schedule release that's baseball season like that? No,
Speaker 1: at the point am I pouring over a schedule to
Speaker 1: see what could happen in seven months? Was the simple
Speaker 1: rube and I enjoyed it as a child when the
Speaker 1: schedule release. We all have our likes and dislikes. That
Speaker 1: was never doing it for me downstairs playing with my brick.
Speaker 1: I didn't need a schedule. Ricky West says, we all
Speaker 1: have our likes and dislikes. I'm sure you have a
Speaker 1: take there after what he said to you, but personal
Speaker 1: that felt uh yeah that felt was just shook his head,
Speaker 1: Yeah it was West. Are we okay? Yeah? Hey, watch
Speaker 1: The Bachelor. I'm just not sure you need to watch
Speaker 1: The Bachelor Jr. In The Bachelor, like Part seven in
Speaker 1: The Bachelor, like the whole Bachelor family. To keep all
Speaker 1: these people lining their coffers with money. The Bachelor some
Speaker 1: reduced version of your show space. You guys should go
Speaker 1: back and watch this week's episode us to see Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers Brother because it will give you a lot of
Speaker 1: insight for your jobs. So you should do that, all right,
Speaker 1: good idea? All right? Speaking of books, West, I just
Speaker 1: got delivered in the mail today, the Definitive Michael Jordan's
Speaker 1: um biography by Roland Lastin by who wrote that one. No,
Speaker 1: what's the title? What's like the the the definitive Jordan
Speaker 1: book Playing for Keeps? Playing for Keeps by Hard Stamp. Yes,
Speaker 1: that that's the best one. I think that's been overdue.
Speaker 1: I've been meaning to read that one for a long time,
Speaker 1: and obviously the ESPN series finally led to the purchase.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that. It's it's a great book,
Speaker 1: It's and I think I would put that right behind
Speaker 1: Breaks of the Game, also by Halberd Stam is the
Speaker 1: two best NBA books? Mark When are You going to
Speaker 1: break Down? Too Hot to Handle? On Netflix? Well, as
Speaker 1: I mentioned to you that that's that took off that right,
Speaker 1: love that show. And then I got to episode two
Speaker 1: or three and everyone on the show was you gotta
Speaker 1: have a likable person, you gotta see kind of yourself
Speaker 1: and someone even if they're a mess, and there was
Speaker 1: just real quick before we get off the premise of
Speaker 1: two ought to handle sput So it's like content on
Speaker 1: the on Netflix right now, and you basically it is
Speaker 1: like twelve to fourteen, like insanely hot, young in shape
Speaker 1: um men and women put together on some truck tropical locale.
Speaker 1: Very original, and uh, you know, they are not allowed
Speaker 1: to do anything physical with each other, but they found
Speaker 1: they seem to have found like super amped up high
Speaker 1: libido people where that is like, um, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to meditate for a month. They simply cannot
Speaker 1: handle that challenge. And they're all starting to like fall
Speaker 1: for each other. And then they'll jump a few people
Speaker 1: and bring in like new if you kiss, it's like
Speaker 1: three grand. There's a hundred thousand dollar prize, and you know,
Speaker 1: depending on the act, it's like twenty dollars could be deducted,
Speaker 1: depending on if they break the rules. What happens if
Speaker 1: you're into minute depends on depends on the level. I
Speaker 1: mean the most intimate of intimate effort. I think it's
Speaker 1: thirty six thousand ortis gone from this thou dollars out
Speaker 1: of out of a hundred thousand. But then but then
Speaker 1: like someone has to win at the end, and all
Speaker 1: the other all the other people hate you be that
Speaker 1: you have no like stuff. Now, I will say this West,
Speaker 1: the description is somehow juicier than the show itself. The
Speaker 1: show I'm a very quick cliff, and I already know
Speaker 1: you wouldn't watch to begin with. Has been peddling it
Speaker 1: my way for a while and and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: so how is this different from the other thirteen shows?
Speaker 1: Just like it? Except you're allowed to have sex? If
Speaker 1: I mean, the book isn't really reeling me in here.
Speaker 1: If I was on that and I had my way
Speaker 1: and I and I got what I want, I would
Speaker 1: at the end of the show, oh the money, and
Speaker 1: I just like, that's fine. That was an amazing three
Speaker 1: months I had on the island. That's how I would
Speaker 1: play it. Who needs forget about the prize? What about
Speaker 1: just enjoying yourself on the island? Get Well, you've got
Speaker 1: to find a female with the same you know, devil
Speaker 1: make care attitude as you. Some of them were very
Speaker 1: money oriented, so it's not quite as easy as you're
Speaker 1: making it out to be. I'm just saying, in in
Speaker 1: an ideal world, well, it's all they're also meant to
Speaker 1: be operating as a team. We are discussing this way
Speaker 1: too long. This is longer than our stegment. This we
Speaker 1: have gone on way too long. Alright, there's a book
Speaker 1: of it was. I'll send it to you nothing the
Speaker 1: book version. There are so many good books, why waste
Speaker 1: time with the bad one? West? Did? Did you get
Speaker 1: a lot of picture? It's a you know, like forwards
Speaker 1: for page, but you know you get a lot of
Speaker 1: pings West about the author that lives next to you.
Speaker 1: I did quite a few guesses. At least two or
Speaker 1: three people got it right, but quite a few got
Speaker 1: it wrong. Okay, there you go. Did you tell them
Speaker 1: they got it right? I did? Oh you did? Yeah?
Speaker 1: See this is this is entering potentially a tricky situation.
Speaker 1: Now that's how you formed the friendship, West, is to
Speaker 1: to you know, allow this author that you're trying to
Speaker 1: get into his good graces. I've just told people on
Speaker 1: the internet from like Scotland to like North Africa to
Speaker 1: Middle America, where you live, Well, they don't know where
Speaker 1: I live. First, they can find that out in about
Speaker 1: eight minutes. M M. I could find that on Google.
Speaker 1: Maybe we don't encourage him just saying we have this
Speaker 1: sign off because Mark said he is somewhere to be
Speaker 1: at one. I do have to go in anew minutes,
Speaker 1: so let's go. Where are you going? I have another
Speaker 1: media thing to do. It's a Brown as a Brown's podcast,
Speaker 1: and I'm not you know, Mark's doing a nice afterwards
Speaker 1: when it's available. I'm not sure. You never you never know.
Speaker 1: Right now, you gotta set up other potential work opportunities
Speaker 1: in case we get the old You know that's fair.
Speaker 1: I'm not quite that savvy, all right, this Dan had
Speaker 1: to signing off four quiet darned the mail Man, the
Speaker 1: Old Boss and Rick Hollywood in What Hollywood? Rick Hollywood
Speaker 1: and what Hollywood? Until my day