Speaker 1: It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hello, welcome to
Speaker 1: another episode of nine O two one O MG. I'm
Speaker 1: one of your hosts, Jenny Garth, joined by my friends.
Speaker 1: Go ahead and introduce yourself, ladies. I'm one of the
Speaker 1: other hosts. Tori Spelling. So sultry and it's saysny. Hello.
Speaker 1: Where the hostesses with the mostess? Oh I wish it
Speaker 1: was Mimoses instead Smoses. Don't get jealsis. I'm so ready
Speaker 1: to drink. We're so happy to be with you guys.
Speaker 1: Another week of season two, Beverly Hills, Nina two. No,
Speaker 1: that's what we're here for, right, It is a big show.
Speaker 1: Everybody thoughts at the Beach Club Love and the Beach
Speaker 1: Club episodes. Yes, makes me feel happy, ready for summer.
Speaker 1: It makes me feel like it makes you feel Hey,
Speaker 1: you had a birthday this last week. Don't you speak
Speaker 1: of that? No, we will speak of it because you're
Speaker 1: older now. There was a second, like maybe a few
Speaker 1: weeks a month. I don't know where you were two
Speaker 1: years younger than me, and I did not like that
Speaker 1: because it just gives you too much to be happy about.
Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that because you know, I'm always
Speaker 1: the first to point out that when you're older than me.
Speaker 1: So I would have relished in that if I had
Speaker 1: remembered it. Okay, I glad I didn't remember, like a
Speaker 1: little more than a month. Darn, that would have been
Speaker 1: good to rub that in. Now you're the big four eight,
Speaker 1: I am, Yeah, And I gotta tell you, forty eight
Speaker 1: fields a lot worse than because what do you mean worse? Like? Okay,
Speaker 1: because it's one year closer to the young Voh, if
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about. I know what you're
Speaker 1: gonna say. One of your clothes are the grave? Uh?
Speaker 1: Well you looking for I mean forty eight? Who do
Speaker 1: you know what? That's the thing they always say, Oh,
Speaker 1: you look so good for forty you look so great
Speaker 1: for fifty years. Like what, what does that even imply?
Speaker 1: You look so good for your age? Yeah? Always they
Speaker 1: say that. I don't know that. I like that. It's
Speaker 1: people are being nice, but it sounds like a backhanded compliment, right,
Speaker 1: But it's not. They think they're being nice, but you
Speaker 1: don't want to hear that. I don't think I would
Speaker 1: ever say that to someone. No, you know what, I
Speaker 1: think I have said that I just said it to you.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry if you were offended by that, but I
Speaker 1: meant it as compliment. Nothing you say can offend me. Well,
Speaker 1: I feel like, um, we all look damn good for
Speaker 1: our age there? How about that looking? I'm just staring
Speaker 1: at our young co host since you said host today? Wait,
Speaker 1: says how old did you turn this year? I turned
Speaker 1: thirty seven? Oh, must be nice, but Jen remember thirty seven.
Speaker 1: It was a good year's keeping it consistent. Don't remember
Speaker 1: it at all. I'm excited for my forties, though usually
Speaker 1: i'll be. I feel like be smarter, and I have
Speaker 1: a better head on my shoulders, both classics. She said,
Speaker 1: I'm excited for my forties, and I said you should be,
Speaker 1: and you said don't be Yep. For once I was
Speaker 1: the ray of optimism and you were dead be downer.
Speaker 1: It's true we switched roles for a second. We should
Speaker 1: do that more often. So. This episode is episode four
Speaker 1: of season two. It's called Anaconda, which I don't even
Speaker 1: understand why, but it aired on August first, nineteen one. Synopsis.
Speaker 1: Brenda gets heated after a bad sun burned, but Brandon
Speaker 1: and friends are in hot water when they're after hours
Speaker 1: poker game at the beach club is followed by a
Speaker 1: burglary who don't done. I'm sorry. Even back in the
Speaker 1: day when we did this episode, every time I hear anaconda,
Speaker 1: I want to go anaconda, don't go unless I knew
Speaker 1: you were going to sing that, and I was excited.
Speaker 1: Directed by Daniel Addius, written by Darren Starr and Jonathan Roberts,
Speaker 1: who was a new is a new name for us.
Speaker 1: This is a new writer, I guess for season two.
Speaker 1: That's right, I do you remember that writer? I don't either,
Speaker 1: I wonder now, but we had lots of ones that
Speaker 1: went on to be like recurring writers or consistent writers
Speaker 1: throughout the seasons. Even uh. And I actually sad to say,
Speaker 1: I don't know Jonathan Roberts. I wonder if he this
Speaker 1: was his one hit wonder. I don't know with us.
Speaker 1: With us, we should really look into those details before
Speaker 1: we go on a radio program and talk about them
Speaker 1: or not a dio program. But you know, doesn't it
Speaker 1: feel like we're doing a radio show. It does the
Speaker 1: live radio show. I heart we want to do a
Speaker 1: radio show next because because we know so much about music,
Speaker 1: you both should fill in for me. When I'm on
Speaker 1: maternity leave. How fun would that be? Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: how how how long are you gone from majority leave?
Speaker 1: Before I commit to that? It would be a few months.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. You got wake a real early.
Speaker 1: We should do it for a day. Well, see if
Speaker 1: anyone notices. I don't think they notice. Why was this
Speaker 1: episode called Anaconda though? Does anybody have any insight on that? Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: I know there's a story. I don't have it, but
Speaker 1: I know there's a story. There's a reference somewhere in
Speaker 1: the show. It was the name of the card game.
Speaker 1: Anaconda is a seven card stud poker game. It is
Speaker 1: played with the same roles except for a few exceptions.
Speaker 1: There we interesting, It's okay, that's where the title of
Speaker 1: the show. I love how we're just learning about it
Speaker 1: all together in real time. But just for people like
Speaker 1: that are listening, we have like ten pages of preps,
Speaker 1: like we're really prepared when we come in to do
Speaker 1: this podcast. We just didn't know the un contact. I
Speaker 1: don't know why. I don't know the writer, don't know
Speaker 1: the why it's called them conduct? What else so far
Speaker 1: that we're discovering because we're rediscovering the show together. So
Speaker 1: why not discover the details of the show together. And
Speaker 1: if we're just watching as fans, Literally we just watched
Speaker 1: the show, and then we come together and we talk
Speaker 1: about it and we go, what do you remember? What
Speaker 1: don't you remember? And I love that about this podcast
Speaker 1: because you know, we don't sensor ourselves. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: we don't sense ourselves, and we don't pretend to be experts.
Speaker 1: We only can give you our version of the story,
Speaker 1: our memories from from it. So why weren't you in
Speaker 1: this episode? That? Is this another thing I don't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that one. I really thought she
Speaker 1: was in all episodes produced. Isn't that crazy? I even
Speaker 1: asked my manager, who's so my manager from from then,
Speaker 1: Mr Showbiz, and he has no recollection of me not
Speaker 1: being in any episodes. He thought I was in all
Speaker 1: episodes as well. I thought I was in all episodes.
Speaker 1: Apparently I wasn't because I didn't see myself in this one.
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean I didn't enjoy watching it. I
Speaker 1: honestly I liked watching it without me in it. No,
Speaker 1: that's just no, I like I relaxed, and I wasn't
Speaker 1: nervous for when when I was gonna be on or
Speaker 1: what I was gonna say, or do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, I wasn't so caught up in my
Speaker 1: own head about it. I was able to like submerse
Speaker 1: myself in the story. And I really enjoyed watching Brenda
Speaker 1: and Donna's scenes, Like I thought they were great and
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I don't need Kelly. There we
Speaker 1: were in that, like, you guys are so good together.
Speaker 1: I really felt like this episode, Donna, you you had
Speaker 1: the most to say, especially that scene like at the
Speaker 1: beach with Brenda. You were so cute and so real,
Speaker 1: like authentic in that scene, and I just wanted to
Speaker 1: be friends with you. I wanted I wanted to hang
Speaker 1: out on the beach with you. Maybe you saw a
Speaker 1: little bit of the show back then, and maybe that's
Speaker 1: the reason you wanted to be my friend real life.
Speaker 1: Who knows. Maybe maybe I was home watching the show
Speaker 1: that's where I was, And maybe you were sick, like
Speaker 1: and you couldn't work, maybe lost your voice. I don't know. No,
Speaker 1: The only thing I can think of would be that,
Speaker 1: um my dad was struggled a lot with his health
Speaker 1: and they my parents lived in Arizona, and he had
Speaker 1: um there were occasions when he would have heart attacks
Speaker 1: and end up in the hospital. And this to me
Speaker 1: sort of feels like I might have made an emergency,
Speaker 1: you know, flee to go be with him. That's all
Speaker 1: I can really, that sounds likely. I bet we could
Speaker 1: look up the script somewhere online, someone has it and
Speaker 1: put the pieces together, because I bet you're right. I
Speaker 1: bet you were in it and they had to take
Speaker 1: you out because there was an emergency. If anyone knows
Speaker 1: the answer to it out there, please let us know. Yes,
Speaker 1: let us know any fact seekers about n why I
Speaker 1: wasn't But it was a really good episode, not because
Speaker 1: you weren't in it, anybody, that's okay, that's all right.
Speaker 1: So should we talk about Poker? Yes, Poker. Ok I
Speaker 1: don't even know her. That is so not okay to
Speaker 1: say anymore. But it's remember what was the other one,
Speaker 1: Poker in the front, liquor in the rear that I can't.
Speaker 1: I just said that, but it came to my mind
Speaker 1: because whenever I wish, these are the things you learn
Speaker 1: on the set. People pretty old school, you could say,
Speaker 1: poke him in the front, like him in the rear,
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be about a woman, and that's
Speaker 1: your problem. You can poke some that would hurt. Poke
Speaker 1: poked him in the front. I never heard poker. I
Speaker 1: don't even know her. You never heard that. These are
Speaker 1: now our old lady jokes. And then we laugh and laugh.
Speaker 1: I mean it's funny. And the young people just like, like,
Speaker 1: what are they saying? I'm laughing with you, Poker, I
Speaker 1: don't even know her. Oh yeah, I thought Brian was
Speaker 1: extra cute in this episode. He was. He was so cute,
Speaker 1: this little poker faces that he was making, and those
Speaker 1: were just like those remind like the faces he was
Speaker 1: making at the poker table remind me of just him now,
Speaker 1: Like he makes those faces just like for no reason.
Speaker 1: And I don't know. This must be where they originated from,
Speaker 1: except he was a lot shorter and I had a
Speaker 1: higher voice. But it's him now, Yep, it's the same
Speaker 1: bran different hairline. Brian had such a low hairline like
Speaker 1: Eddie Monster. Right, yeah, we'll look at it now. He's
Speaker 1: got great hair stills, he's got great hair. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: ended up perfect, like settled in, settled in its settled in, Yeah,
Speaker 1: settled into his face, into his hairline. He grew into
Speaker 1: everything you know that came out wrong. Well, I felt
Speaker 1: like the poker stuff was really fun to see, like
Speaker 1: the whole sneaking into the beach club at night, which
Speaker 1: I was like, Brandon, what are you doing? You're gonna
Speaker 1: get fired? Peer pressure, peer pressure totally. I feel like
Speaker 1: he is what the second time he's succumbed to peer pressure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it seems like Steve Sanders can get him to do
Speaker 1: anything anything, But Steve is pretty convincing and kind of fun,
Speaker 1: and you want to join in on the shenanigans when
Speaker 1: he comes up with something like yeah, you know, you
Speaker 1: get real convinced by him. Yeah, it's true. He's very
Speaker 1: he's a good salesman. And that storyline is just so
Speaker 1: relatable because I think in every friend group with high
Speaker 1: school kids especially, there's always that one friend that the instigator,
Speaker 1: the wild one. Oh my gosh, I had one of
Speaker 1: those in high school. I had one of those on
Speaker 1: set And it wasn't me, It wasn't gen Who was
Speaker 1: it Shannon? Okay, because she like she was cool and
Speaker 1: like was always going out and doing things, and I
Speaker 1: was just like, she's so cool, Like I want to
Speaker 1: hang out with her, so I would end up doing
Speaker 1: things that, yeah, that's not bad, just like that you
Speaker 1: shouldn't have done. Not like nothing bad, but just like
Speaker 1: peer pressure, like oh no, because I like I felt
Speaker 1: like when we started this show, I was still living
Speaker 1: at home. Obviously, I was in my teens. I had
Speaker 1: a curfew, which is so lame. And she'd be like,
Speaker 1: let's go out on Friday night and don't worry, we
Speaker 1: don't have to have an I D. And I'd be like,
Speaker 1: I have a curfew, and I'm so embarrassed I couldn't
Speaker 1: tell Shan Doherty I had a curfew. I love that
Speaker 1: about you so like and early, like like right before
Speaker 1: my eighteenth birthday, I think my curfew was still eleven thirty.
Speaker 1: That is so crazy. You guys are like major TV
Speaker 1: stars on like one of the biggest shows on the planet,
Speaker 1: and you have a curfew. Just it's so relatable. It's interesting, though, Beau, Yes,
Speaker 1: you add a curfew, and so you were obviously you know,
Speaker 1: being parented. But then we would go to work and
Speaker 1: be treated like adults and have absolutely no like um
Speaker 1: like guardianship at work. We were just thrown into this
Speaker 1: situation and had to make all our own decisions and
Speaker 1: know how to act and know how to handle all
Speaker 1: the things and know how to do everything on our own,
Speaker 1: Like there was nobody there telling us yes, no, maybe
Speaker 1: you know it was. There was never one adult that
Speaker 1: was like, hey, if you guys need anything, you're young girls, like, come,
Speaker 1: you can confide in me. That would have been nice
Speaker 1: to have, huh. I wonder if they had that now
Speaker 1: for teenagers. I mean when you're when you're a teenager
Speaker 1: on a set now, you have usually your parents with you,
Speaker 1: or your teacher or something like some sort of person
Speaker 1: your parents didn't have have to be. I guess your
Speaker 1: parents was there technically Tori, or was there but not there.
Speaker 1: I took I took the g D so that I
Speaker 1: didn't have to have a teacher on set because I
Speaker 1: wanted to fit in with everybody else. We both the
Speaker 1: g e D, which is like, so we could graduate
Speaker 1: from high school earlier. Yeah, But then my mom said,
Speaker 1: since she was so strict, if I took the g
Speaker 1: D on my days off from filming, I still had
Speaker 1: to go to high school and graduate from my high school.
Speaker 1: Like that was our deal really, yeah, which was really
Speaker 1: super hard to work these hours and then be like, oh,
Speaker 1: I have the next day off, and I'd be like,
Speaker 1: do I really have to go to my senior classes?
Speaker 1: Like oh I would suck. Oh my goodness, high class problems.
Speaker 1: But it's still and it's not that did you guys
Speaker 1: feel that you were missing out? Like I mean, for me,
Speaker 1: it's like I loved high school for that reason, like
Speaker 1: just all you know, homecoming, the dances, being a cheerleader,
Speaker 1: all that. Did you feel like you missed that on
Speaker 1: any of that? But you basically were playing that on TV,
Speaker 1: so you know, like I think tour you got to
Speaker 1: experience a lot of that. Yeah, mm hmm I did
Speaker 1: and the stuff. But once I was on nine O
Speaker 1: two O, it was like my world transitioned and I
Speaker 1: wanted to just be immersed into this world, um and
Speaker 1: just act and be with these friends. So it just
Speaker 1: it transitioned really fast. Yeah, because you didn't have anybody
Speaker 1: watching over, you didn't have any teachers telling you what
Speaker 1: to do. We were like, whoa, Yeah, it was yeah,
Speaker 1: it's true. Oh my gosh, I would want I want
Speaker 1: I would want that too. Yeah, But um, I don't
Speaker 1: feel like I I mean, I did a little bit
Speaker 1: of high school I only stayed in high school through
Speaker 1: my sophomore year, and then I left and got my
Speaker 1: g D as well, and then didn't ever look back,
Speaker 1: never worried about it again. And look at me now,
Speaker 1: guys stay in school kids. Well, I think it's does
Speaker 1: it feel weird that like you still kind of in
Speaker 1: a weird way acted it out, like yeah, you still
Speaker 1: got to wear like the cap and gown dances and
Speaker 1: got together football games and all the things. It just
Speaker 1: was but as Kelly for not as someone way better,
Speaker 1: because yeah, it was just I don't know, we were
Speaker 1: doing it as adults kind of it was fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: That's how I felt more about, like the college years
Speaker 1: when we get to the college years, because I felt
Speaker 1: really like missing out when I had friends like that
Speaker 1: would call me from college and they were having parties
Speaker 1: and sororities, and I was like, wow, but we really
Speaker 1: got to live all that. So I feel more about
Speaker 1: that when we get there. Um went back to the episode.
Speaker 1: One of the things that I was enjoying when I
Speaker 1: every time I watched the show, I feel like I
Speaker 1: really enjoyed the not just the opening credits, but like
Speaker 1: the opening sequence where they owe you all of the
Speaker 1: the they call it be roll or establishing shots of
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills in California and all the glorious scenery that
Speaker 1: is out here, you know, And I love that about
Speaker 1: just for a second, it kind of sucked me in
Speaker 1: and thought, oh my gosh. If I was living in
Speaker 1: you know, Uruguay or whatever and watching this, think that's
Speaker 1: so cool. That's what Beverly Hills looks like. That's what
Speaker 1: the rich and famous live like. You know, that's California.
Speaker 1: I think that was such a lure, such a an
Speaker 1: important part of our show was all of that stock
Speaker 1: footage and and and like establishing shots. I lived in
Speaker 1: Orange County and I thought it was amazing. You lived
Speaker 1: like a beautiful place as well. But I'm just saying
Speaker 1: like I never you know, I didn't go up to Hell,
Speaker 1: even going up to l A. Growing up in Orange County.
Speaker 1: It was like you didn't needn't do it often. So
Speaker 1: to us to see like the palm trees and Beverly
Speaker 1: Hills and all the shops and all that stuff, it
Speaker 1: was and something that we saw every day. Either come
Speaker 1: on down see how two percent live Like that's more
Speaker 1: than that. But I think every episode they would repeat
Speaker 1: a lot of the shots of certain things like Rodeo
Speaker 1: Drive and the palm trees and the beach, but there
Speaker 1: were also a lot of new stuff, so that they
Speaker 1: must have had, like, um, a whole second unit that
Speaker 1: would go out and shoot these, um just beautiful scenes
Speaker 1: like landscapes of the beauty of California. I want I
Speaker 1: would want to be on that crew where you just
Speaker 1: go around and there's no actors, just the beautiful scenery
Speaker 1: and the real people. I love. That was that fan.
Speaker 1: But right out of the gate, I felt like this
Speaker 1: episode starts really tapping into uh Dylan's emotional trauma and
Speaker 1: pain more than even more than before. Like, yeah, they
Speaker 1: kind of talk about his problems with his dad, and
Speaker 1: but this is the episode where I felt like we
Speaker 1: really dove into his the dark parts of his psyche.
Speaker 1: And I think this was like a a pivotal moment
Speaker 1: for his character and like the trajectory of the importance
Speaker 1: of Dylan McKay on the show greed, because he wasn't
Speaker 1: just Brenda's boyfriend, he wasn't just you know this guy
Speaker 1: that surfs he was he had all these layers and
Speaker 1: we sort of start to unpack all start to figure out.
Speaker 1: So interesting to see nowadays. I feel like they do
Speaker 1: shows a bit different back then. There really is, and
Speaker 1: like they didn't just drop little nuggets. It's like they
Speaker 1: always put it all in one episode. They pack it
Speaker 1: in kind of like big nuggets about somebody's character. It
Speaker 1: happens all at once. I mean, not that we haven't
Speaker 1: seen little things along the way with Dylan, but this
Speaker 1: episode was very Dylan heavy about his backstory. This whole
Speaker 1: season is more dramatic already. I'm realizing it's not that
Speaker 1: after school special type of vibe that season one was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're starting to really get invested in in each individual
Speaker 1: character and their specific journey, and that's that's what's so cool. Like,
Speaker 1: like I was saying that scene with Brenda and Donna
Speaker 1: at the beach, like I started to care and and
Speaker 1: understand and like kind of relate more to Donna and
Speaker 1: to Brenda. I mean, first of all, I thought Brenda
Speaker 1: looks super cut in this episode. Her hair and makeup
Speaker 1: was on fuego, so just but um, I just felt like,
Speaker 1: I you start to really want to be with these characters.
Speaker 1: You start to want to hang out with these characters
Speaker 1: and like help them with their problems and be there
Speaker 1: for it all, you know. And also going into second season,
Speaker 1: I think they were starting to know us as actors
Speaker 1: more and that was helping them to start to guide
Speaker 1: the characters. M What do you mean by that starting
Speaker 1: to get you to know you as actors? Because we
Speaker 1: always feel like we're like did they have like some
Speaker 1: hidden microphone somewhere because they like the character attributes, Like
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of the stuff you see,
Speaker 1: especially like for my character's Donna, Like that's very tory
Speaker 1: and at that age that they were writing for me
Speaker 1: um personality wise. So it's interesting that they were getting
Speaker 1: to know us by spending time with us on set
Speaker 1: and they were starting to write more personality traits of
Speaker 1: the real actors into the characters. I think. But it's weird.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't never feel like they were spending
Speaker 1: more time with us on set. I honestly felt like
Speaker 1: they were watching us from Afar and like like make
Speaker 1: taking notes about the the animals and the enclosures. Well, wait,
Speaker 1: weren't you miked up? Like if you were miked up
Speaker 1: or No, Well, with all those booms and every shot,
Speaker 1: I don't think we were wearing body mikes, but you learn,
Speaker 1: you learn very young, like we learned this on to
Speaker 1: know that when you have your body mic on, it's
Speaker 1: taped inside. We don't want them to hear it. You
Speaker 1: just tap it and they continue to have a conversation
Speaker 1: like keep doing it. Yeah, it sounds like the soundman
Speaker 1: probably loved that because whenever we would talk about stuff
Speaker 1: we didn't want to when to hear, we'd be like
Speaker 1: tap tup tup, tup, tup, tup, tup, tup tup and
Speaker 1: probably really hurt their ears, breaking punk kids. But like
Speaker 1: I think producers and writers were like banking on us,
Speaker 1: just like talking out of school and not like knowing
Speaker 1: that we had our mics on, and which happens all
Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, we went there was stuff would happen
Speaker 1: and we'd be like, oh shoot, I forgot to go
Speaker 1: like this, and you have just told like some really
Speaker 1: juicy stuff. Um, but have you gone on in your
Speaker 1: career jen to be on a set and work with
Speaker 1: younger people or anyone and you do that and they
Speaker 1: look at you like what are you doing and they
Speaker 1: think you're crazy. I don't know if I've really noticed that. Now,
Speaker 1: Oh it happened to me. Someone was like what you
Speaker 1: are you? Okay, what are you doing? And I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: it's like a have it you don't. I guess it's
Speaker 1: an old school thing. You like this so that sound
Speaker 1: doesn't hear what the youngsters do now when they don't
Speaker 1: want the sound man to hear what they're saying, they
Speaker 1: just don't care. They don't care. I don't think you
Speaker 1: can't unplug it. There's no off button. Well you can
Speaker 1: unplug it, but it's not that easy because it's usually like, um,
Speaker 1: when they put a body mic on you, it's it's
Speaker 1: wrapped under a packaging thing, like you're wrapped up in
Speaker 1: a belt and it's in the belt, in your pants,
Speaker 1: in your clothes, on your thigh there's like a thi
Speaker 1: wrap with velcrowdon. So it's like, you know, it's usually
Speaker 1: like an ordeal to get to it, which is also
Speaker 1: pretty embarrassing when the sound man is putting that on
Speaker 1: you on set, like digging through your clothes, lifting up
Speaker 1: your skirt, pulling up your everything just to get to
Speaker 1: your mic, to change your batteries, batteries, just coping a
Speaker 1: field right now, Oh my god. Pretty invasive. It's and
Speaker 1: everybody's standing there waiting while the sound man is like
Speaker 1: literally lifting your shirt up and basically putting his head
Speaker 1: under their likes. They usually hand it to me and
Speaker 1: they just go through. Now, So we grew up like
Speaker 1: just being like on new shows they would be like okay,
Speaker 1: they would always say that, we would just stand yeah,
Speaker 1: just text here's my body put the same you need it?
Speaker 1: That basically PTSD from that from being fondled. Do you
Speaker 1: enjoy for play? Does it bring back? It's kind of numbing,
Speaker 1: Like we're like Janice explained so much about my life
Speaker 1: an epiphany. Lord, what is that? Well, there's still more
Speaker 1: than cover from this episode. Let's take a break and
Speaker 1: you guys can think about that and we'll come back. Okay,
Speaker 1: you guys, we are back, and it's Anaconda don't want
Speaker 1: if you ain't got buns hunts. Sorry, I love it
Speaker 1: so much. We're at the Beach Club. We are what
Speaker 1: they're play coker and the big thing is they're going
Speaker 1: to do the you know, Ross Weener Black version of
Speaker 1: Poker Night, which I just couldn't get past the name.
Speaker 1: Sorry for anybody out there who's named Ross Weener Black,
Speaker 1: But I mean I'm really sorry if your name is
Speaker 1: Ross Win are black, But I'm sorry to be making
Speaker 1: fun of it right now, but it just made me laugh.
Speaker 1: One more time, say it one more time, a black, yes,
Speaker 1: one more time to say it one more time. What
Speaker 1: movies that from? I don't know, you and I always do.
Speaker 1: I don't know. We got it from some movie. It's
Speaker 1: from Elf on the Conversable and um, and Will Ferrell's
Speaker 1: character is calling him an elf room. He's like, say more,
Speaker 1: one more time, to say it one more time and
Speaker 1: then you scrap out of left. Sorry, but it was
Speaker 1: also funny when they're doing the poker stuff and they're
Speaker 1: um talking about their fancy fifty inch rear projection TV.
Speaker 1: I was like, that was like high tech in that
Speaker 1: at that time. That dated us, didn't it? And it did,
Speaker 1: But I loved it. It was pretty big TV for
Speaker 1: that time, and rear projection TVs were the thing to have.
Speaker 1: Now you wouldn't really want one, but they were good.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite lines, I'm just going to jump
Speaker 1: right ahead because that's what I do, uh, was when um,
Speaker 1: the guy that they're playing poker with, says, Hey, Brandon,
Speaker 1: don't be such a squeef what's a squeef? What's a squeef?
Speaker 1: I thought he said squeak, but I thought I heard
Speaker 1: squeef squeak squeef, Like, don't be such a squeak who
Speaker 1: says that, Yeah, it's weird. Was a squeef? Like like
Speaker 1: a loser? Sounds not fun? And then the girls come
Speaker 1: to the poker party and they look so stink and cute.
Speaker 1: I love your outfits. I always try to find pictures
Speaker 1: from that episode really cute, and I loved those outfits.
Speaker 1: It looks so fun. I wanted to go to that
Speaker 1: poker game and smoke, well, I didn't want to smoke
Speaker 1: the cigars. I could not believe you guys were smoking cigars.
Speaker 1: I felt like such a stud you guys, I'm sure
Speaker 1: I felt like I was going to throw up afterwards,
Speaker 1: But I was like feeling cool as could be. I
Speaker 1: don't see some cigars smoking as really making you cool,
Speaker 1: but I guess it's the opposite. But imagine being what
Speaker 1: were we seventeen then eighteen? Like you know, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's just first scene, so I'm not doing it. But
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know. I thought I was in
Speaker 1: the big leagues. Don't judge me. You were and you
Speaker 1: looked great doing it. I really loved it. I was
Speaker 1: there for that whole poker thing, the lighting and the
Speaker 1: just it looks so Needo Neto, I said, Neto better
Speaker 1: than squeef. It was a very interesting theme. Like I
Speaker 1: was wondering, did the writers come up with that? Was
Speaker 1: that your dad's idea to do the whole like Frank
Speaker 1: Sinatra theme scene? Where do you guys think it came from?
Speaker 1: I wonder. I mean, my dad was really good friends
Speaker 1: with the rat Pack. I wonder if that was something
Speaker 1: he was like, Oh, let's make it this kind of idea,
Speaker 1: bring that back. I don't know. It was fun to
Speaker 1: get see James Pickens jr. Um do some more scenes
Speaker 1: in this episode. Did you guys like that? He's such
Speaker 1: a good actor. It's funny. I wonder if people remember
Speaker 1: him from this, because obviously everyone knows him from Gray's
Speaker 1: Anatomy Richard on Grey's Anatomy, But we've crossover audiences, right, Yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: Before that, he was he was Henry Thomas. He was
Speaker 1: like the guy at the Beach Club, and he was
Speaker 1: so great. He was I just loved whenever he was
Speaker 1: on screen. And I mean, to be quite honest, the
Speaker 1: show was not that diverse in in the nineties. We
Speaker 1: that wasn't something that they really focused on. It was
Speaker 1: a once in a while thing that they would say, oh,
Speaker 1: we we should do this. But I loved seeing the
Speaker 1: diversity and just feeling that, you know, just the difference
Speaker 1: of of having him there. And I thought that he
Speaker 1: added a lot to our show. I liked him a lot.
Speaker 1: He was watching TV on the balcony agan man favorite
Speaker 1: thing to do, and he had like the best mullet,
Speaker 1: Like did you guys notice he had like the best
Speaker 1: tightest mullet there is tight the tight mullet. But it
Speaker 1: was a moment you had to really like sneak a
Speaker 1: peek to see it. And I was like, what, he's cute.
Speaker 1: So he appears in ten episodes of Nanotu and O
Speaker 1: and then that was it. What what happened after this
Speaker 1: season Greys Anatomy starts is that when he went there
Speaker 1: maybe a year. I guess we'll find out, But didn't
Speaker 1: we come back to the Beach Club or this was
Speaker 1: it after this season? I feel like it was just
Speaker 1: one season. Whoa we don't know in anything like like
Speaker 1: we said, We're going to learn right along with you,
Speaker 1: guys while we're watching this. The thing about this is,
Speaker 1: if you're a super fan of the show, you've watched
Speaker 1: every episode and you know what's happened and what's going
Speaker 1: to happen for us. We literally don't know what's going
Speaker 1: to happen next week. This is true just because we
Speaker 1: acted it and lived it. Don't think we remember it.
Speaker 1: We had a great we had a great song in
Speaker 1: this episode, though, I did notice um was kind of
Speaker 1: another one of those um foreshadowing weird nine O two
Speaker 1: on Oh Moments, because there was a song called what
Speaker 1: I Like About You by The Romantics in the scene
Speaker 1: with Brendan Donna when they're doing their tams. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you guys heard it, but I did because
Speaker 1: that song was later became pretty significant to me because
Speaker 1: I did the show What I Like About You? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So I thought that was a neat little foreshadowing. Another
Speaker 1: one of those things. That's so cool. Those things keep happening, coming,
Speaker 1: keep them coming. I love it. Do you guys have
Speaker 1: that happen? I mean, you notice, like the things that
Speaker 1: happened like little signs. This is totally off topic. But
Speaker 1: I'll just tell you. Um my daughter her school picked
Speaker 1: a new mascot this last week and they, for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: that it wasn't politically correct their old mascot. They wanted
Speaker 1: to change it. So they changed it to the Owls
Speaker 1: and they announced it yesterday and it was big news,
Speaker 1: you know, for us. And that the night before they
Speaker 1: announced it, I had a dream about a giant owl
Speaker 1: swooping through and I didn't know where that came from.
Speaker 1: Then then then they announced that their show their mascots
Speaker 1: called the Owls. And then last night we were watching
Speaker 1: um Queen's Gambit again. I guess we love that show,
Speaker 1: and there was like an owl reference. I don't even
Speaker 1: know why I'm telling you this, but it's about the
Speaker 1: signs people. It's about noticing the universe, like synchronicity. Synchronicity, yes,
Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna say it, I think. Okay. So,
Speaker 1: so she told me this yesterday and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: she had this premonition about the owl being picked as
Speaker 1: the mascot. But I think the overall theme is you
Speaker 1: need to look deeper. The album means something else for you.
Speaker 1: It's coming like something wei to figure it out. Well,
Speaker 1: owls are wise. Maybe there's wisdom coming your way or
Speaker 1: please go and she is a hoot. But I feel
Speaker 1: like it means something little people. Maybe it'll be revealed
Speaker 1: on the next episode. Maybe. Well, let's get into fashion
Speaker 1: our favorite lines, and we have a few questions from listeners.
Speaker 1: Let's take a break and we'll come back with that. Okay,
Speaker 1: so let's talk fashion, ladies, because we love to talk
Speaker 1: about fashion on the show. Um, I'll just kick it
Speaker 1: right off. I was really digging Steve's outfits in this episode.
Speaker 1: They were They were just fun and so perfectly Steve Sanders.
Speaker 1: I loved the completely buttoned up shirt, blue shirt with
Speaker 1: the white like docer shorts, but equally uh, the dolphin
Speaker 1: shorts he was wearing with yet another tank top. His
Speaker 1: tank top closet is just going nuts. We have to
Speaker 1: ask him if he has any of those tank tops
Speaker 1: and if he would be willing to wear them one day.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, then and now I want to do yeah,
Speaker 1: like I want to see him in those now. I
Speaker 1: want to see that so bad. Um. I loved my
Speaker 1: outfit in the Poker Game. That was one of my
Speaker 1: favorite outfits ever on this whole series that I wore
Speaker 1: because I love the twenties, so mine was kind of esque. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you were both kind of dolled up like retro like that,
Speaker 1: and I loved it. Brenda's she looked every bit a
Speaker 1: roaring twenties lady, just as you did, but a little
Speaker 1: different take on it. Right, you were more of a flapper.
Speaker 1: He was more of like, um, the cigarette girl, you know,
Speaker 1: the girl that would a cigarette cigarette cigarette. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: really dating myself. Everybody gets did you like anything since? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's funny that they were considered the babes that we're
Speaker 1: going to be at the poke game. Brandon was so
Speaker 1: disappointed that one of them was his sister. He's like,
Speaker 1: this does not count. We get some fresh girls. Fresh girlfriend,
Speaker 1: He's a fresh babe. Um. I liked Donna's hair in um,
Speaker 1: like half a half down when you came into the
Speaker 1: WASH's house. It's just like that was my go to
Speaker 1: hair sound in the nineties because like, if you don't
Speaker 1: want to do point out, you just like the half
Speaker 1: of half down with like a huge scrunch, yeah, or
Speaker 1: like a clip, like a little clips what were they
Speaker 1: called the banana clips? No, that was a different one.
Speaker 1: They were like, yeah, small, like just one and they
Speaker 1: were flat, yeah, and it just would hold it. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't know. It's so funny for me because
Speaker 1: I feel like that hair do was like not a
Speaker 1: TV hair do. I feel like it was just real life. Yes.
Speaker 1: I think that's why I liked it really Like I
Speaker 1: look at it and I'm like, oh my god, why
Speaker 1: didn't they do my hair that day? Like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: what was happening? Was I like late and they were
Speaker 1: like got to get to said skip hair. No. I
Speaker 1: feel like it goes back to being you, being authentic
Speaker 1: and relatable. I feel like you and Brenda both looked
Speaker 1: just really normal, like girls you would want to be
Speaker 1: hang out with, like you, girls that you actually do
Speaker 1: hair out with. How about lines? Best lines from the episode?
Speaker 1: I know to one? No. One of mine was from David.
Speaker 1: Uh he was He said, hey, little lady, can I
Speaker 1: buy you a snack? Donna hot snack? Right here? He
Speaker 1: was not feeling his vibe now not Yeah. Um of
Speaker 1: course going back to that, UM, seeing I liked my line,
Speaker 1: I uh, I had a cigar. I threw up. Yeah
Speaker 1: that's so cute. Um, I already told you my favorite line.
Speaker 1: Brandon don't be such a squeef. I plan on using
Speaker 1: that reference later. I'm gonna call somebody a squeef today
Speaker 1: and see how it goes. And that's that's it, you guys.
Speaker 1: This is this was We don't have a lot to
Speaker 1: say about this episode. I feel like we kind of
Speaker 1: like didn't really go too deep. But that's okay because
Speaker 1: we have some great questions I think from from listeners.
Speaker 1: Don't we sist? We sure do? A Maya is asking
Speaker 1: why do y'all keep picking and or shading the boys?
Speaker 1: This other week it was about Jason and his height
Speaker 1: and everything, and then Tori was sarcastic about how Jason
Speaker 1: loves to rehash Nano toun o stuff. What did they
Speaker 1: do to you? Wow, my gosh, what did they do
Speaker 1: to us? Okay, here's what you guys need to understand,
Speaker 1: Like these are like our brothers and sisters. Like anything
Speaker 1: we say here we would say right to their face
Speaker 1: and probably do. Like you hear how Jan and I talked.
Speaker 1: This is how we all talked to each other. Um
Speaker 1: and we we always were in contact stone we're all
Speaker 1: still friends. So they didn't do anything. Does we love them?
Speaker 1: It's our family. This is how you talk about your
Speaker 1: best friends and family, right, yeah, but even so, like
Speaker 1: I get what there's this Amaya is saying, like from
Speaker 1: people that love the show, and you know, but the
Speaker 1: thing is, this is our this is these are our recollections,
Speaker 1: these are our memories. This is was our experience, and
Speaker 1: you know, it was probably much different than their experience,
Speaker 1: so the guy's experience or anyone else's experience, but we
Speaker 1: can tell our side of the story. And I think that,
Speaker 1: um so often we fall into the trap of trying
Speaker 1: to tell a story that everybody is gonna digest, well,
Speaker 1: like that it's going to be politically correct to say,
Speaker 1: or it's gonna people are going to still like us
Speaker 1: even when we say it. But there are some parts
Speaker 1: of our experience that weren't great, and and that's okay,
Speaker 1: and it's okay for us to talk about it now too,
Speaker 1: and it's okay for for other people to share their experiences.
Speaker 1: But you know, when you ask what did they do
Speaker 1: to you, it's not necessarily what they did to us,
Speaker 1: but what we as young people did to ourselves, like
Speaker 1: our interpretation of what was happening at that time because
Speaker 1: we were all so young and so like I said,
Speaker 1: so unguided at that in that environment, that grown up,
Speaker 1: mature environment, being completely left on our own for you know,
Speaker 1: days full days of whatever happened, you know. And so
Speaker 1: there's so much that happened that sort of taught us
Speaker 1: and and shaped us as women, as young girls, as
Speaker 1: now as women, and not all of it was great.
Speaker 1: And you know, Tory and I do try to um
Speaker 1: tell the truth, but at the same time not you know,
Speaker 1: let people in too far to see like the you know,
Speaker 1: the sordid parts, because we want everybody to love the
Speaker 1: characters and love the show, and but we also have
Speaker 1: our own experiences, so sometimes that stuff comes out of us,
Speaker 1: like when we're joking and when we're like making fun.
Speaker 1: But I don't think that it's not about what they
Speaker 1: did to us. Well, but what she said, um, but
Speaker 1: am also I believe I'm the person that the entire
Speaker 1: first season I kept saying, Look how dreamy Jason's eyes are.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's so hot. Like I acknowledge that too.
Speaker 1: I think. I mean, I'll say to you if you
Speaker 1: wore something like what were you wearing that week? Like
Speaker 1: that's the same thing, Like why did they say something
Speaker 1: about Jason Tite, like we were just referencing things that
Speaker 1: we're in the script and happened. I don't think you
Speaker 1: have to defend yourself, but I think that way you
Speaker 1: said it makes a lot of sense. I know, I
Speaker 1: don't feel like we pick on them, though I don't like,
Speaker 1: I don't feel like we have different I haven't gotten
Speaker 1: that vibe either. I think it is kind of like
Speaker 1: you guys are all, you know, related in a in
Speaker 1: a sense, these are our high school friends. Like we
Speaker 1: I mean family picks on each other. It's like I
Speaker 1: still have the same jokes with my high school friends
Speaker 1: that like, and we still when we see each other
Speaker 1: we pick up, but we left off and it's the
Speaker 1: same stupid jokes that like, you know, sound mean, but
Speaker 1: they're not me because it's us and we were in
Speaker 1: those were, like like we've said before, those were formative years.
Speaker 1: We were young girls. We were very very impressionable, and
Speaker 1: I mean Tory and I've talked about this before. Back
Speaker 1: to the whole major concept of why why am I
Speaker 1: the way I am? And who how did I get
Speaker 1: the way? And why do I have these issues or
Speaker 1: these hang ups or you know, all that you ask
Speaker 1: yourselves as you grow into an adult and you when
Speaker 1: you start to look and sort of look at yourself
Speaker 1: in the mirror and ask those questions. Yeah, a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of what happened on that set um
Speaker 1: shaped us in all directions. But I think as a
Speaker 1: young girl, maybe I was like, what blamed it on
Speaker 1: the guys to like, you know, it was all their fault,
Speaker 1: But it was how I saw it, like, you know,
Speaker 1: brought out a super competitive part of me. Being in
Speaker 1: that environment of being you know, uh, judge by because
Speaker 1: of my looks or how I looked in an outfit
Speaker 1: or you know. It was such a it was. It
Speaker 1: was just a different day and age um and it
Speaker 1: and it gave us young girls a lot of mixed messages,
Speaker 1: and I for many years struggled with um, I think
Speaker 1: that if I'm honest, like I think it, it kind
Speaker 1: of taught me two be threatened by other girls, be
Speaker 1: threatened by other women, be more competitive because I wanted there.
Speaker 1: I wanted our co stars approval or attention, you know.
Speaker 1: And it was it messed with me on a on
Speaker 1: a deeper level. And not until later in life did
Speaker 1: I kind of think it wasn't ever about the other girls,
Speaker 1: and why did I ever make the other girls the
Speaker 1: enemy in my mind? You know, it wasn't it. And
Speaker 1: so it gives you different messages that you have to
Speaker 1: work through. And I think that Tory and I are
Speaker 1: always working through those messages as we grow older and
Speaker 1: trying to be better people and figure it all out.
Speaker 1: You know, absolutely all right, We'll go to the next question. Um.
Speaker 1: This question is from Stephanie to Jenny. Through the seasons,
Speaker 1: Kelly endured such traumatic experiences and eating disorder, the fire, drugs,
Speaker 1: getting shot, and the cold, just to name a few.
Speaker 1: Did you ever get tired of such terrible things happening
Speaker 1: to your character and ask for something happier or easier
Speaker 1: to play? In those ten seasons? I can ask this
Speaker 1: question a lot, because yeah, you do. Because a lot
Speaker 1: of bad things happen to Kelly. It's like a weird
Speaker 1: I don't know why. They just love to do bad
Speaker 1: things to her. I don't know why they did, but
Speaker 1: I mean I did my best with it. When they
Speaker 1: would give me a storyline that was dramatic on the
Speaker 1: heels of another story and it was dramatic, I did
Speaker 1: my best. Yeah, I got I got tired of the
Speaker 1: heaviness of it sometimes for sure, and it was, you know,
Speaker 1: That's why I love the scenes on the show where
Speaker 1: it's like that everybody hanging out the group and we're
Speaker 1: having fun. I love that stuff because it's like a
Speaker 1: pleasant break for me. But it's interesting to see like
Speaker 1: I did so many of those you know, dramatic things,
Speaker 1: and I'm developed into a pretty dramatic person, like I'm
Speaker 1: I'm not you know, Tory and I always joke she's
Speaker 1: Pollyanna and I'm the opposite of whatever Pollyanna is. We
Speaker 1: have to think of what that is. Didn't we figure
Speaker 1: it out once? I don't remember. You think it's because
Speaker 1: you played all these crazy roles when you were younger.
Speaker 1: I feel like you're like, it's definitely shaded my life experience.
Speaker 1: I feel like, no, not only did I have so
Speaker 1: many traumatic experiences on camera, those those sink in, those
Speaker 1: those sink into your bones, you know, and your experiences,
Speaker 1: but I also have had, you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: things in my real life. So and we all have
Speaker 1: a lot of trauma and ups and downs in our lives.
Speaker 1: But combining the two, I think it's a lot for
Speaker 1: one lady. So I definitely think that it's it's made
Speaker 1: me probably a more of a serious person. But it's
Speaker 1: funny because my I call myself a blue person. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys have ever heard that expression,
Speaker 1: Like I I think you're not a blue person tour
Speaker 1: I don't know would be you're more of like a
Speaker 1: yellow person, like you air more on the light higher,
Speaker 1: like a lighter, happier, sunnier side of the spectrum. And
Speaker 1: I'm more a blue person like I've always struggled with depression,
Speaker 1: and I've always uh, you know, had things that in
Speaker 1: my mind that were harder for me to deal with
Speaker 1: and and kind of cloud in my experience and made
Speaker 1: me more on the blue side. I remember my dad
Speaker 1: used to say, um, you would say are you feeling blue?
Speaker 1: And that was I would I would say yeah, and
Speaker 1: I didn't know why. I was a little girl, and
Speaker 1: he would take me for ice cream and then everything
Speaker 1: would be better. But but I think that people are
Speaker 1: just kind of wired how they're wired. And I think
Speaker 1: that I think all of our experiences, throughout all of
Speaker 1: our journeys in life, like they accumulate, they kind of
Speaker 1: add up and make you who you are. And I
Speaker 1: know I love my blueness. I mean, I I love it.
Speaker 1: I embrace it, and I it's something that I've learned
Speaker 1: to live with and and that i love about myself.
Speaker 1: I've I'm a I remember some people used to call me,
Speaker 1: in a negative connotation, you're too emotion emotion emotional. That
Speaker 1: was what I was saying, you're so emotional. And yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe as a younger person, I was more dramatic and
Speaker 1: more emotional because that's usually what happens. But I remember saying,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not emotional. I'm emotion ful. Mm hmmm,
Speaker 1: And I'm okay with that. So maybe I got it
Speaker 1: from Kelly and also people telling you that when you're
Speaker 1: so young, like there's something wrong even if you're even
Speaker 1: if you're not that, then you start believing that you are,
Speaker 1: and so then you carry that, you carry that. I've
Speaker 1: done this thing called the landmark forum. Okay, it's a bracket,
Speaker 1: and so it's a bracket that was given to you
Speaker 1: in your adolescence or when you're young, and it may
Speaker 1: not be true at all, and you carry it into adulthood.
Speaker 1: And you know, it's like someone telling you, like you
Speaker 1: can't draw, you're not a good artist. You know, like
Speaker 1: when you're a little kid in preschool or like, and
Speaker 1: then so then you go into elementary school, you're like,
Speaker 1: I'm just not a good drawer, and you just start
Speaker 1: believing that you know and has nothing to do with
Speaker 1: who you really are. So it's just it's crazy for that.
Speaker 1: And then I had no idea that doing these roles
Speaker 1: would would really penetrate into like your actual real life
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, I mean I think for sure for me,
Speaker 1: definitely doing all this stuff and then going home and
Speaker 1: because you want to stay in that mindset right as
Speaker 1: an actor assuming, I mean, yeah, it's hard to break
Speaker 1: it off at the end of the day and the
Speaker 1: day and then like turn it right back on. It's
Speaker 1: to say them the next day. So it's it kind
Speaker 1: of lingers. You're like, I'm just gonna stay a bit
Speaker 1: on that because I have to be that tomorrow morning.
Speaker 1: But I think I also to what you're saying, like
Speaker 1: people label you you, we label ourselves like I do
Speaker 1: that all the time. I say, oh, I'm not a
Speaker 1: I'm not a writer. I how to write this, But
Speaker 1: if I really sat down and applied myself, I probably
Speaker 1: could write something. So it's it's the messages that we
Speaker 1: hear from other people it's but for me, it's the
Speaker 1: messages that I hear from myself, and they're probably from
Speaker 1: those outer messages, and then I sort of internalized them
Speaker 1: and keep reiterating to myself, like my the things that
Speaker 1: aren't so great about myself. And I think that that's
Speaker 1: something that we should all try to not do. Stop
Speaker 1: listening to ourselves when it comes to those negative messagings.
Speaker 1: I know, I wish we could just all live like
Speaker 1: the innocent lives that children live, you know, and you're like,
Speaker 1: you don't second guess anything when you're a child. I
Speaker 1: think you're great. Yeah. I look at my kids and
Speaker 1: I'm just like, gosh, if I can just have your
Speaker 1: mind for a day, they're confidence because no one's torn
Speaker 1: it down yet. I know, we could just keep them
Speaker 1: in a bubble. I know. I wonder what I would
Speaker 1: be like. I thought this before, Like what would I'd
Speaker 1: be like if I hadn't been colored by all the experience,
Speaker 1: like all the negative stuff, you know, and all the
Speaker 1: messages out there, Like what would little Jenny look be
Speaker 1: like if if none of that had happened. Well, it's
Speaker 1: part of your journey, so you wouldn't be you if
Speaker 1: it didn't happen. No, I wouldn't and you wouldn't love me,
Speaker 1: and I would always love you no matter what. Do
Speaker 1: you think you've carried some of Donna's traits into your
Speaker 1: real life, Tori? I mean I've definitely carried being cast
Speaker 1: as Donna being the producer's daughter through my whole life.
Speaker 1: I mean, I definitely I'm the type. Like when Jen
Speaker 1: says she shows emotions a lot when she was younger,
Speaker 1: I didn't show any emotions because I didn't want to
Speaker 1: be labeled anything. I just wanted to be perfect. Like
Speaker 1: you know, they already have preconceived notions because I'm the
Speaker 1: producer daughter. So going into that job, I was like,
Speaker 1: I have to be sweet, I have to be nice,
Speaker 1: I have to be kind, and I was all those things.
Speaker 1: But it's carried over into my adult life that I
Speaker 1: don't have a voice to be strong or brave or
Speaker 1: the confident woman I want to be because I'm spending
Speaker 1: so much time focusing on being just so sweet and
Speaker 1: wanting everyone to like me. Yeah, so I wish, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wish that was different too. I feel like things
Speaker 1: would be different. Everybody has their own like thing, you know,
Speaker 1: like it's so interesting when you look at people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we all want to please people to an extent.
Speaker 1: You know, it'd been dumb stuff Like when I was
Speaker 1: planning my wedding, It's like I kept thinking about like
Speaker 1: what everybody else was going to think. And it's supposed
Speaker 1: to be the happiest day of my life, and I
Speaker 1: was like worried about like are they gonna like this
Speaker 1: or my guests gonna like that? And it's just you
Speaker 1: have to be able to be a little selfish at times.
Speaker 1: That's the great thing about getting older, I think, is
Speaker 1: that you start to realize that it's not being selfish,
Speaker 1: it's just honoring yourself and like giving yourself as much
Speaker 1: love and acceptance as you do to other people. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: And that's it's hard, but it's part of the journey.
Speaker 1: We're all still works in progress. Well, I just met
Speaker 1: you guys not too long ago, and I think you're
Speaker 1: both lovely and I don't get any negative vibes from
Speaker 1: either one of you, So you're doing something right. No
Speaker 1: shades of blue, No shades. Yes, you need sarcasm, please
Speaker 1: be so boring without it. So what is our next episode.
Speaker 1: Those were great questions you guys, By the way, keep
Speaker 1: them coming because like obviously we're not afraid to talk
Speaker 1: about anything. Um, if anything, I tend to talk about
Speaker 1: stuff too much, but about like the real deal. But um,
Speaker 1: keep them coming because we love them. Yes, next episode
Speaker 1: is a season two episode five. It's called play it Again. David. Oh,
Speaker 1: what an eyebrows tour again? David. Hm, I'm so curious.
Speaker 1: What's David going to play? I have no idea. I
Speaker 1: just excited because it's Davidson, you can remember, very excited. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll see you guys next week.