1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: The late fifteen ten touchdowns. What's up, guys, Welcome into 2 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: a brand new episode of Chargers Weekly, as always, joined 3 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: by Matt Muney Smith, and we'll get into offensive coordinator candidates, 4 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: but money. There was some sad news yesterday morning. Jesse Lemagner, 5 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: former Chargers outside linebacker, passed away at the age of 6 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: twenty five. Obviously, our our condolences to his family, teammates, 7 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: especially some of the teammates that he has on this 8 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:41,279 Speaker 1: current Chargers team. Yeah, you know, and it's well, it's 9 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: incredibly sad when someone passed away to a young child 10 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: on the way, I mean, just the heartbreaking story. And 11 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: I think in Jesse's case, you know, this is one 12 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: of the guys that was, you know, fighting with the 13 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: Braden Fijokos and the you know, these are the practice 14 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: guys that get called up one week and back on 15 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: the practice squad the next and called up the next week. 16 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:06,919 Speaker 1: And you're trying to make an impact on special teams 17 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 1: and make some plays out there, and it's not easy, 18 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a tough, tough path to making 19 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: it in the NFL. And by all accounts, it seemed 20 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: like even though you know, he was facing that sort 21 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: of adversity, not knowing if you were going to be 22 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 1: able to have a career in the NFL, and one 23 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: week you think you are in the next week you're not. 24 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: And you know it's a year to year, you know, 25 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: it's even less than a year to year and almost 26 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 1: a week to week sort of question that you're asking 27 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: yourself of how am I going to make a living? 28 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: You know, it seemed like you just had by all 29 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: accounts of real positive attitude and had a very profound 30 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: impact on that group of guys, specifically when you you 31 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: kind of saw the tributes on social media, the guys 32 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: that he was, you know, fighting with on that practice squad. Yeah, 33 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: incredibly said and puts a lot in perspective. You know, 34 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: we talk about wins and losses and leads and own 35 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: leads and wins and playoff appearances. This is what really matters. 36 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: And you know, I think Brad Fojoko had a nice 37 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: tribute to him on his Instagram, So again, just incredibly 38 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: said our condolences to his family, his loved ones, his teammates. 39 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: And we'll make that transition to what the lead is 40 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: I guess for the Chargers in terms of news and 41 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 1: that's finding an offensive coordinator. We got some names, money, 42 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: we got some interviews that are already in the can, 43 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: and I figured, let's just go through some of these guys, 44 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: a lot of guys from the Rams, a lot of 45 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: guys that would have first year offensive coordinator experience if 46 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: they came to the Chargers in twenty twenty three. And 47 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: I figured we start with the first name we saw, 48 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: and that's Zach Robinson, who's thirty six years old, a 49 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: former NFL quarterback, was a Pro Football Focus senior analyst 50 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: before Sean McVeigh grabbed him, snatched him up and brought 51 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: him to his staff. So, you know, I saw a 52 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: video of Zach a press conference and he literally echoed 53 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: the same words that Brandon stalely echoed in his press conference, 54 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: the marriage between the run in the past. You know, 55 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: this is the tree that I think Brandon Staley is 56 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: most comfortable with. And Zach Robinson was first up. Yeah, 57 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 1: I mean before I start with Zach, I think we 58 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: should start with the name I mentioned last week and 59 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: how it's just not obviously and I didn't think it 60 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: was going to happen. I figured Frank was going to 61 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 1: get a head coaching gig. He's just way too good, 62 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: and I think it it speaks to, you know, just 63 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: not making a rash decision. And that's exactly what it 64 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: was in Indianapolis. And we know that Jimmer says, one 65 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: of the more quirky owners in the league. But you 66 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: kind of I don't know who they're gonna hire. I 67 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: mean word is that he wants to keep Jeff Saturday. 68 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: You tell me that Jeff got a second interview. Yeah, 69 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: you tell me you can either have Jeff Saturday or 70 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: Frank Reich is your head coach. And it's going to 71 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: take me all of one tenth of one second to 72 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: tell you which one of those guys I would want. 73 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: So I knew it was going to be a long shot. 74 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: And because he's just too good. So you know the 75 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: fact that you're not gonna be able to get your 76 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: hands on someone that had called plays previously, that was 77 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: a head coach previously, that did marry the run in 78 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: the past. In both Philadelphia and Indianapolis. You know, you 79 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: now move on. And so some of these candidates that 80 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: don't have a lot of experience, that are younger that 81 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: you're banking on the coaching tree as much as you are, 82 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: and you're banking on the person as opposed to kind 83 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: of the resume. You know, you're just trying to get 84 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: a feel and look calin plays. I think people make 85 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: a big deal out of it. I'm so happy that 86 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: that Brian Dabo didn't call plays in New York. I 87 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: think it just goes to show you that like this 88 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: idea of oh, we got we gotta find the next 89 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: Andy Reid or we've got to find the next Kyle 90 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: Shanahan or Sean mcvady's head coaches that are able to 91 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: call plays, it doesn't It doesn't have to be that way. 92 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: I mean, there's there are a lot of benefits to 93 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: not calling plays as a head coach to be able, 94 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: because I think that's what people don't realize, you know, 95 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: is especially offensively as an offensive coordinator, like you have 96 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: to be thinking five six plays down the drive. You know, 97 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: at the very least you're thinking two plays down the drive. 98 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: So it's very hard to be present in the moment 99 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: and be a head coach when you're thinking, Okay, this 100 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: was my call. If we get six yards, i've got 101 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: to go to this. If we get tan I'm going 102 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: to this, if we get stuffed or take a set 103 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 1: like that's that's you know kind of why. And I'm 104 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: sorry for that tangent, but I think, like that's what's 105 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: important to remember is you know that the position is tough, 106 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: but it's not rocket science. You know, there are great 107 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: coaches that don't call plays. I think there's a reason 108 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: why Mike Kafka is gonna end up getting a head 109 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: coaching job. Remember he got hired as oc by Brian 110 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: Dable just to kind of keep that thread going. And 111 00:05:55,720 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: here's Daybell, who's who's called plays for fifteen years, you 112 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: know at Alabama, helped develop Josh Allen and build that 113 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: Bill's offense into a bit of a juggernaut with him. 114 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: And he gets to New York and he's like, no, 115 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: it's my first time as a head coach, I'm not 116 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: calling place, brings him Kafka, Yeah, yeah, who had never 117 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: called place before? And look at that Giant's offense. I mean, 118 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: it was supposed to be one of the worst in 119 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: the league. They had zero, you know, elite talent at 120 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: the wide receiver or tight end position, and they end 121 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: up winning a playoff game and supribeing probably the surprise 122 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: of the season saved the Seahawks. So I just kind 123 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,799 Speaker 1: of illustrate that because Kafka had never called place before, 124 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: but you were banking on the guy. Here's a former quarterback, 125 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: a smart guy from Northwestern, a guy that coached under 126 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: Andy Reid and was able to watch the way that 127 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: he does it for all those years, and it's and 128 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: that's what Dave Ball found. He's like, Okay, this is 129 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: this is the guy. Even though I've got all this 130 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: experience calling Blaze, this is my first head coaching gigg 131 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna hand this guy the play card and 132 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: he's gonna do it. So I bring that up because 133 00:06:58,360 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: I think that's kind of what the Chargers are probably 134 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: look at. It's someone that has not called plays before. 135 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: But I would say this too about Kafka. He catered 136 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: to his personnel in New York right like they didn't 137 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: have any didn't have any wide receivers. They said, Daniel 138 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: Jones can be mobile, he can run the football. Saquon 139 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: Barkley's our bell call, and we're gonna cater our offense 140 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: to what we have. They didn't have Josh Allen and 141 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: Stephan Diggs and all the guys that Brian Dable had 142 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: last year, day Ball took that CEO approach and said, 143 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: all right, Kafka, you're gonna run the offense, wink, you're 144 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: gonna run the defense, and I'm gonna give that input 145 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: and run the run the team. Right. So I guess 146 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: in the case of a guy like Zach Robinson, right, 147 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: if you're around Sean McVay for the last three years, 148 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: or a guy like Thomas Brown, who will get to 149 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: if you're around Sean McVeigh for you know, a number 150 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: of years and you see how he runs an offense 151 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: and how he calls plays, you can only hope to 152 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: debt there are some transferable skills over there. And then 153 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: first and foremost I think was Zach Robbinson. He's a 154 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: former NFL quarterback, right, so he knows the position he played, 155 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: the position he was drafted to play that position in 156 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: the NFL. So the importance of that relationship with Justin Herbert, 157 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: I think would have to be priority. Either Yeah, I 158 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: you know, Elbert Brewer, I know reported it, and I 159 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: mean at this point and NU knows, you know, by 160 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: the time we post the pod whether or not it 161 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: will be decided. It seems like he's the guy. You know, 162 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: it certainly feels that way. You know, we talked about 163 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: this last week. You know, he requested Kevin O'Connell when 164 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: he was hired two years ago, denied, requested Mike McDaniel 165 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: two years ago, denied, and that's how Joe Lombardi got here. 166 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: So you know, when you're interviewing four guys from the RAMS, 167 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: two guys from Kevin O'Connell's staff, seems to be a 168 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 1: parent the direction that he wants to go. And it 169 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: seems like Zach, of all the names we're going to 170 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: go through save gregls and is the most sort of 171 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: experience seems to fit. Like you said, Chris, he's a 172 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: former quarterback. He's you know, I do like the parallels 173 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: between he and in Kafka, you know, just because I 174 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: do think they're similar. You know, it's it's someone that 175 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: that's been in a spot for a minute, that has 176 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: worked with quarterbacks, that is a former quarterback, that's that's 177 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: watched you know, one of the best play callers in 178 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: the league for a few years now, and um, you know, 179 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: it just seems like he's ready to get his shot. 180 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, like I think about when Shane 181 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: took over the offense when Wiz was let go, and 182 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: just how great, how how good it looked. It's like, 183 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: you know, here's former quarterback learning under somebody that was 184 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: pretty darn good at it. You know, don't forget Ken, 185 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: Wizz and Hunt went to a super Bowl. You know, 186 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: Colin plays as a head coach in Arizona. So you know, 187 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: I think you saw how great Shane was the second 188 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: he was given the keys to the car. And obviously 189 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: look at what he's doing in Philadelphia. Now they're going 190 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: to probably end up going to a super Bowl, and 191 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: what he was able to do with Jalen Hurtson. So 192 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: to me, Zach Robinson looks like the guy. I think 193 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: he's gonna probably end up being the one that gets 194 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: a job, and I'm excited about that. You know, I look, 195 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: I love the offense. It's it's hard to argue with 196 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: the results. You know, Minnesota did not lose that game 197 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: to the Giants because of offense. They lost because they 198 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: have no defense, you know, but the offense was moving 199 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: the ball. They won twelve games this year. So you know, 200 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: I got no problem with the style of offense in 201 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: San Francisco and here in La with the Rams and 202 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: up in Minnesota, it certainly seems to produce pretty darn 203 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: good results. Yeah, you know, just going back to Shane, 204 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: also just working on the fly with Justin. Remember that 205 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: Week two game. To have Justin play the way that 206 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: he did that entire rookie season without a preseason People 207 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: forget that that was the COVID year where there were 208 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: no preseason games. So for him to go in cold 209 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: a guy like Shane is a perfect example of that. 210 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: And you go through these offenses, right Gerard Johnson, you know, 211 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell, greg Olson. Greg Olson's kind of the outlier 212 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: here because he's been in the NFL for twenty years 213 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: and he's been an offensive coordin here for six different teams. 214 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: He's been with Cruden and McVeagh the last six years, 215 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: So you know, I think he's kind of that that 216 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: steady veteran presence. You probably know what you're gonna get there. 217 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: But I do think that this team wants to make 218 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: a splash. I think Brandon Staley specifically said that kind 219 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 1: of pointed to himself, is like, hey, no one knew 220 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: about me three years ago, and it seemed like, you know, 221 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: that's the path that he wants to take a young 222 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: guy who maybe can breathe a little energy into this offense. 223 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 1: I wonder about Justin Herbert, though it's not so much wondering, 224 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: but I do think three offenses in four years, that's 225 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: a lot for anybody. You know. I think Matt Canada 226 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: for the Pittsburgh Steels, the reason they said they brought 227 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: him back was because the lights started to come on 228 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 1: with that offense latter half of the year and they 229 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: kind of got some momentum. So the only thing, if 230 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 1: I were to play Devil's advocate with some of these guys, 231 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: is that, hey, it's gonna be a little bit of 232 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: a different offense for Justin Herbert. That probably doesn't matter, 233 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: you know, because we know how smart Justin is, but 234 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: it's something that can maybe consider that, hey, this is 235 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: going to be another news system for Justin to learn 236 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: his third in four seasons. Yeah, and look, there's no 237 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: way around it. I think it was clear that, you know, 238 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: they were a little concerned by the production this past season, 239 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: and I think even at times last season they did 240 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: not run the ball well. And you know, I think 241 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 1: for coach Staley two, one of the things about that 242 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: is that it's and we brought this up I think already, 243 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: but I'll repeat it. It's very hard. You know. It's 244 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: something DJ said, it's very hard to have a good 245 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: run defense when you don't have a good run offense 246 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: because you're not practicing against a really good run offense 247 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 1: day in and day out. So you know you can 248 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: tie the two together. You know that the run deef 249 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: either the run defense is prohibiting the run offense from 250 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: being better or the run offense is prohibiting the run 251 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 1: defense from being better. And somehow they got to get 252 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 1: those two things to connect. So I don't think there 253 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: was any question that, you know, Joe was probably going 254 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: to be on his way out after another par season, 255 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: you know, from the run offense and also just sort 256 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: of the stagnation it felt like from this offense this season, 257 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: you know, and I think I think you said it, 258 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: you know, Justin's it's plenty smart. You know, you're going 259 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: to have an entire offseason. You're gonna have mini camp 260 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: to do installs, you're gonna have you know, all all 261 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: of those things in June, the two weeks in June, 262 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: and then you're gonna have five weeks to get comfortable. 263 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: I don't think it's like college where you you know, 264 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: you're younger, you're not quite mature. You know, you only 265 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: have X number of hours with these kids every week 266 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: because of those rules. You know, to me, it's it's 267 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: much easier for this to happen in the NFL than 268 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: it is in college. So you know that's to me, 269 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: that's not necessarily something. I'm too concerned about it. And 270 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: I think that's the other thing too. Remember, you know, 271 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: the reason why this job is so attractive is because 272 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: of the pieces that you have in place. You're an 273 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: OC that gets to coach and call plays for Justin 274 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: Herbert and Austin Eckler and Mike Williams. You know, with 275 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: an offensive line that features Rashaan Slater and Zion Johnson 276 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: and Trey Pipkins and Corey Lindsay, you're gonna probably put 277 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: up numbers and people are gonna be looking at you. 278 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: So it could be a one and done like Brandon 279 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: Staley was for Sean McVeigh, you know, coordinating that defense 280 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden he's gone and you got 281 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: to replace him. So I wouldn't be surprised if you 282 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: know something like that. You know of Zach is super 283 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: impressive or whomever they hire. You know, we'll get to 284 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: the other names in a second here, but I wouldn't 285 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: be surprised if they can get this thing right and 286 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: it's as good as we think it can be with 287 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: the right play caller, if they don't end up as 288 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: a head coach, you know, with just a one and 289 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: done kind of deal, like like Kafka's gonna probably end 290 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: up you know, or at least has a very good 291 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: shot of ending up being a head coach after just 292 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: a single season calling plays. You know, a guy that 293 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: I was impressed with even last year just seeing some 294 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: of his interviews and what Shan McVeagh has said about 295 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: him as Thomas Brown, and Thomas Brown was a running 296 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: back in the NFL. He move from running backs coach 297 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: to tight ends coach, and he's that guy who I 298 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: think and I envisioned as being a head coach in 299 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: this league in the next you know, one to two years. 300 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: He's another interesting name money, especially when we talk about 301 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: the running game and getting the running game going and 302 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: having your leader connect with the team, and he seems 303 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: to have the leadership qualities that I think a lot 304 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: of people want on their staff. So, you know, as 305 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: much as we talked about Zach Robinson and him being 306 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: a former quarterback, I think Thomas Brown is an intriguing 307 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: name and I actually look at him as more of 308 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: a head coach type here in the next couple of years. Yeah, 309 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: I think that's Look, this is fair enough. I mean, 310 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: you can you can just I'll just call it what 311 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: it is. Like, there aren't a lot of former running 312 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: backs or running back coaches that are calling place. There 313 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: just aren't. They're almost all quarterbacks. Yeah, there's some offensive linemen, 314 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: but for the most part there they tend to be quarterbacks. 315 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: If you just go go right down the list, man, 316 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: and you know, Shanahan McVeigh, you know Canada, all these 317 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: guys are typically former quarter Frank Reich. You know, it's 318 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: just the way it for whatever reason, that seems to connect. 319 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: So that would be my one concern. And look, this 320 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: is I hate saying it, but and I know he's 321 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: up for you know, reportedly you know, Demiko Ryan's if 322 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: he gets the job and Denver wants to take him 323 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: with him. But like I just kind of saw the 324 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: way Anthony called plays when he was here, when he 325 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: kind of took that over for a minute and was 326 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: calling some plays, and the way it went in Detroit 327 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: when he was the OC there, you know, and ended 328 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: up losing the play calling from Dan Campbell Anthony Lynne 329 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: our friend like that, just that would make me a 330 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: little bit nervous. And that's not fair. I know, it's 331 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: totally not fair because look, the Rams run offense and 332 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: Cam Akers was like sent to Football Siberia and they 333 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: were trying to trade him and they couldn't, and all 334 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: of a sudden they give him back the running game 335 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: and Cam is great again. So certainly he has that 336 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: sort of ability to coach it up and he's you know, 337 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: and and look, he could be great for me. Fair 338 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: or not, it would it would just give me a 339 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, I'd be a little bit hesitant, you know, 340 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: if you ask me, Hey, what do you prefer? Yeah, 341 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I'm I'm biased. I prefer quarterback 342 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: to be calling plays as an OC. I just feel 343 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: like that's what we tend to, you know, and whatever it's. 344 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: You know, look, Andy Reid wasn't a quarterback and he's 345 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 1: one of the best play callers in the history of 346 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: the league. I mean, heck, Mike, you know, Mike Leach, 347 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 1: who helped advance an offense that is you know everywhere 348 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: in college football now you know, didn't even freaking play 349 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: football for the most part, barely played football. So it 350 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: can happen for me. I just you know, I'm sort 351 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: of a numbers guy, and I look at the percentages. 352 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: It's just like, okay, percentages, say, quarterbacks typically the way 353 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: to go. And but again, I think the one thing 354 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: that Thomas Brown has going for is the run offense 355 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: was stagnant. And when he kind of got moved into 356 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 1: a different position in that offensive you know, coaching room 357 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: by Sean McVay, it seemed to really take off. Yeah, 358 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: and there's what ten offensive coordinator nine maybe nine offensive 359 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: coordinator positions opened in the NFL right now, Not to 360 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: mention the head coaching vacancies, you know, so you've got 361 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: to remember it's it's not just the OC the ten ocs, 362 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 1: but you got four head coaching vacancies as well that 363 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: well need OC. So yeah, I only you know, we're 364 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: going off reports and then what the Chargers have said 365 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: in terms of people who have interviewed and completed their interviews, 366 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: But anybody else out there, Like you see a report 367 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: about Joe Brady, you know, you hear about Kellen Moore 368 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: and how his status with the Cowboys is in flux. 369 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: Is there any dark horse candidates you'd be interested in seeing. 370 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: Joe Brady's interesting, you know, because of what he did 371 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: with Joe Burrow at LSU, not what he did in Carolina. 372 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: There were some rumors coming out of Carolina that he 373 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: was slow to adjust that you know, just kind of 374 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: came in with the same game plan. I know that 375 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: was sort of some of the things. You know, when 376 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: he got let go by rule, it was like, wow, 377 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: that was bad. There's a guy that was you know, 378 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: when the conversation as a head coach when they hired 379 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, Joe Brady was kind of like the dark 380 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: horse canna to be the head coach in Dallas. Like 381 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: that's how you know how popular he was, how bright 382 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,959 Speaker 1: his star was, and just kind of that quick ascent 383 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: after what he was able to do with LSU, breaking 384 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: every college record you know there was on their march 385 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: to that championship. Obviously you saw the talent he had 386 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,719 Speaker 1: on that offense, specifically Joe Burrow and Mr Chase, but 387 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, it just got sideways 388 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: in a hurry. So maybe he was able he had 389 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: the quarterback to push it down the field in Carolina 390 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: either right, Teddy, Teddy isn't that guy. They had some speed, 391 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: but it was almost like the opposite of what he 392 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: had at LSU in terms of Burrow pushing the ball 393 00:19:54,720 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: down the field. Right, and again, matt rule failed wildly 394 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: in Carolina. No denying that. So it's kind of hard, 395 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: you know. That's that's why if Brady's the guy, I think, Yeah, 396 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: you see what he did at LSU, and a lot 397 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 1: of that was just you know, five guys out. And 398 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: that's what Cincinnati did last week. You know what their 399 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: offensive line issues. They just did what Joe did at LSU, 400 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, ball's gonna be out man. And 401 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: Joe was so quick. And that's the interesting thing about 402 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: Joe Brady, right is one of the things about Burrow 403 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: is he is such a fast processor. He sees it 404 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: so quickly before you can get a hand out him. 405 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: And Justin's the same way. You know, Justin sees it quick. 406 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 1: You know, he works those progressions quickly. So that's where 407 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: I think that Joe Brady. You know, sort of idea 408 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: comes in and makes sense because that's what they did 409 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: at LSU and manage did it work? Talk about putting 410 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: up points man on some really good teams, So that 411 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: makes sense, you know, Joe Brady makes sense. I think 412 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,959 Speaker 1: the you know, the Luke Stuck, I will get the Stuckle. 413 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: But you know, there's there's some interesting names. I got 414 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: confused when I saw Luke Steckel. I thought Luke Fickle. 415 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: I was like Luke Fickle from Cincinnati to Wisconsin to 416 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: the Chargers. Now Luke Steckel. Okay, right, exactly exactly, So 417 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: you know, to be honest, Chris like, look, we don't 418 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: we don't know a lot about these guys because they 419 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: haven't called plays. No, you know, save Joe Brady, complete Brady, 420 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: didn't you know? You know, yeah, you know, Bunny. The 421 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: common theme I think for Sunday, you talk about these 422 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: four teams they can all run the football, uh Pacheco 423 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: in Kansas City, mixing the way that they kind of 424 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: milked the clock in Buffalo after getting up um Philly 425 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: obviously with that three hitted attack and Jalen Hurts, and 426 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: then we've talked about San Francisco the last two weeks. 427 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 1: The theme I think from twenty twenty one to twenty 428 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,719 Speaker 1: twenty two is we still really didn't identify the second 429 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 1: running back, and we talked a little bit about it 430 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: yes or last week rather, but the Chargers are gonna 431 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 1: have to find a running game, and I think that 432 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: is gonna be just as important as getting Justin Herbert going. 433 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: Is having battles attack, and certainly that's you know, that's 434 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: gonna be a big part of the oc hire, you know, 435 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: which is where the Thomas Brown thing becomes interesting, right 436 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: is is you know here is someone that and that 437 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: and look the thing about the explosive passes and the 438 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: passing game, and is it all works off the run? 439 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: Everything works off the run. So you know with McVeigh 440 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: and with Shanahan and with Kevin O'Connell, you know, and 441 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook, like, none of that works until the running 442 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: game gets going. So that's you know, I guess that's 443 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: where you would kind of say, Okay, well we know 444 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: we can get the passing game going. It's justin Herbert. 445 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: You know, we got to figure out how to get 446 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: designed runs to be more successful. And that's the same 447 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 1: thing in Philadelphia. You know, even though they got twenty 448 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,479 Speaker 1: seven hundred yards between A J. Brown and DeVante Smith, 449 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: you know, the quiet is twenty seven hundred. The only 450 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: thing quiet more quiet than that was Miles Sanders thirteen 451 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,719 Speaker 1: hundred rushing yards you know. So yeah, I mean, and 452 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: the reason those were so quiet. I think he had 453 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: eleven touchdowns. You know, it's just because Jalen Hurts ran 454 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: for eight hundred and thirteen touchdowns, you know. So I 455 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: don't think it's necessarily you know, as we discussed last week, 456 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,959 Speaker 1: it's not the names. To me, it's the place. You know, 457 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: you've got the names, You've got it. You know, Austin's 458 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: you can lean on Austin he can. He can be 459 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: every bit as productive as I believe as any of 460 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 1: those guys, as Miles Sanders, as Dalvin Cook. I think 461 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: he has the skill set, the strength, you know. I 462 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: think the one difference is is he's smaller, so you 463 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: just don't want him to take too much abuse, which 464 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: is why it's important to have that second player. But 465 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: you know, look, Austin's been I think you could probably 466 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: circle Dalvin Cook and say he's probably been out more 467 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: than than Austin has you know, and taking a beating. 468 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: So the one great thing about Austin is, you know, 469 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: he tends to stay out there. You know, you might 470 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: have a game or two here or there, like every 471 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: running back. And it happened the end, that's happening to 472 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: Miles Sanders, happened to look, Christian McCaffrey's dealing with something 473 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: right now going into championship game. So to me, it's 474 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: less about finding another back and more about and look, 475 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 1: the OC will tell you that. And that's the thing. 476 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: The offensive coordinator is going to be able to come 477 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: in with a new set of eyes and say, hey, yeah, 478 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 1: I know you really like them, but no not. Let's 479 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: you know, and and there's guys out there, right, I mean, 480 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 1: hack if you hire Robinson or Brown or Olsen. You 481 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,199 Speaker 1: know they let go of Anderson. You know, they were 482 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: trying to try cam Acres. I mean, they brought Malcolm 483 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: brownback this year. It's like, it's funny the way it's 484 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: you know that they guys like guys like their guys. 485 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: It's one of the it's one of the old adages 486 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: in the NFL. As you could coach, you could have 487 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: someone on your roster that was totally unproductive for two years. 488 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: But somebody goes down with an injury, and who pops 489 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: up on the practice squad that guy, just because you're like, yeah, 490 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 1: we know this guy and we're comfortable with him, and 491 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: we know if we tell him to do this, that 492 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: he's gonna do it, even if he doesn't do it 493 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: that well. So that's that's one of the more I 494 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: think the state of the running game for the Rams 495 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: could end up producing one of those players as well. 496 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 1: You know, it was very interesting that they gave up 497 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: on Acres so soon and then obviously you saw him 498 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: come back with a fury, you know, once he was 499 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: given another shot. Same thing, like interesting they let go 500 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: of their leading rusher and Henderson, you know, like he's 501 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: on the street. It's just kind of odd. These are 502 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: two guys that were mid round, you know, high mid 503 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: round picks and now perhaps looking for work. One of 504 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: the things I appreciated most about the Eagles season was 505 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: that week to week they conformed to what whatever the 506 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: defense like. So when when the Titans played the Eagles 507 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: and everybody thought that they were just gonna try to 508 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: run the football because they they're the one of the 509 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: best rushing offenses in the NFL, they threw it over 510 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: their heads to A J. Brown and Davante Smith. Each week. 511 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: They had a game plan that was designed to maximize 512 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,239 Speaker 1: their strengths and put a spotlight on the weakness of 513 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: the defense. And I don't think the Chargers had that 514 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 1: last year. It was really just the armadjustin Herbert. You know, 515 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: you didn't go into a game and say, you know what, 516 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna run the football thirty times because this is 517 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,959 Speaker 1: the worst rushing defense in the NFL. So I just 518 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: I appreciated the way that stike In and Sirianni put 519 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: that offense together. You had it was it was a 520 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: Miles Sanders, Bosses Scott Gainwell week one week, and then 521 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: it was an AJ Brown, DeVante Smith, Dallas Goddard week 522 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: the next. You really didn't know, and it was kind 523 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: of you cater it to who your opponent is. And 524 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: I think that's what the offensive coord is gonna have 525 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: to do too. It's way too much talent, as you mentioned, 526 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,479 Speaker 1: on this Chargers team to just know that, all right, 527 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: these are the plays that we're gonna call each and 528 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: every week. You gotta cater it to your opponent. One 529 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: of the things also about Philadelphia that that cannot be 530 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: overlooked is just the front. You know, on both sides. 531 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it's the best defensive line in the league 532 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: bar nine. I mean you've got I think three or 533 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: maybe even four guys in double digit sacks. They nearly 534 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: broke the record this year for most sacks in a 535 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: single season. I think the record was like seventy nine 536 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: and I think they ended up with like seventy three 537 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: or four something, just some up third number. So you 538 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: have that, you know where you're putting pressure and you're 539 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: creating turnovers, and you're getting more opportunities, you know, for 540 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: your team to go up double digits. You know, a 541 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: couple scores and now you can lean on the run. 542 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: You know, now they have to play catch up, and 543 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: you know that sort of things. But the other thing 544 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 1: about Philadelphia is the offensive front. They have invested heavily 545 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: on the offensive line, heavily, multiple first rounders, big pay 546 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: days for free agents. You know, they have one of 547 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: the best tackles in the game in Lane Johnson. They 548 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: have the best center in the game in Jason Kelsey, 549 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: like and that's and that's one thing that I feel like, 550 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: you know, when healthy, what we saw from trade this year, 551 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: if he's brought back what we saw from Jamari Sawyer, 552 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,239 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody would be disappointed with Zion's you know, 553 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: rookie campaign, even though there were some ups and downs. 554 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,239 Speaker 1: Like that's the one thing the Chargers have going for him. 555 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: They're going to have one of the best offensive fronts 556 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 1: in the league. You know, if everybody's healthy and you 557 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: go Slater and either Filer or Sawyer, you know, Lindsley 558 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 1: Johnson and Pipkins, that's gonna be one of the best 559 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 1: groups out there. So or a Filer stays now, to 560 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: have Jamari as a swing or a sixth offensive like, 561 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: you're going to be able to do a lot and 562 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: I would assume that's going to be very exciting. And 563 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: we saw what it looked like last year we brought 564 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: this up. You know, when they ran left, they averaged 565 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: like five yards per carry. When they were in right 566 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: they average like negative one, you know, last year, so 567 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 1: to be able to balance and this year the right 568 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: side was better, you know, running the football with Trey 569 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: and Zion, So that's I think that's something to keep 570 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: in mind too. When you know this offensive line is 571 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: healthy and that you know, fair and not for Joe 572 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: the left side is where he did most of his 573 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: run in last year behind Slater and Filer and Lindsley. 574 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: Then that was gone, So you know, it'll be it'll 575 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: be interesting to see, you know, how much better that 576 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: is just by default up the front and the talent 577 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: on the front, and how much better they ought to be. Yeah, 578 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: and you wonder how the personnel may change based on 579 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: how they plan to run the football, who they have 580 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: on the roster now, what changes could be made in 581 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: free agency, who they target in the draft. So those 582 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: are all unknowns that will obviously know a little bit 583 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: more about the next couple of months. Anything else with 584 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: this OC search, like you said, Zach Robinson seems to 585 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: be a guy that is getting some buzz out there 586 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: in the public. Um anybody else or anything else you 587 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,719 Speaker 1: want to mentioned with, I mean, yeah, the one thing 588 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: I will say is, look, I know they want to 589 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: be deliberate and take their time, but you said it, 590 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: there's ten openings, you know, and and I would and look, 591 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong or maybe I don't know. I just 592 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: thought once Frank got hired, I think that I was like, Okay, 593 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: maybe they're gonna be patient because they want to see 594 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: all these other vacancies get filled. If Frank's still out there, 595 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: you know, to to nab him once he got hired, 596 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, man, let's go. Let's let's get 597 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: your guy before you know, one of the other nine 598 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: openings gets filled. Are you surprises taking this long money? 599 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: It's January twenty seventh, we still have four open head 600 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: coaching vacancies. I don't know. Maybe it's just like you said, 601 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: guys like Kafka who just finished their season. Maybe there's 602 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: some guys who are actually coaching right now that may 603 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: get jobs. I think that's the look. I know a 604 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: lot of people have said this, it's so stupid that 605 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: they don't put a hiring freeze until after the playoffs. Yeah, 606 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: you know, I think that you know the fact that 607 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: Damiko Ryan's or Shane steike In, you know, we've seen 608 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: it with the Enemy, you know, like that those guys 609 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: aren't going to get jobs, you know, or Lou and Rumo, 610 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: like those guys aren't going to get jobs because their 611 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: teams are still in it. Like that's just it's absurd, 612 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: It's stupid. Why why would you not like after watching 613 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: what Sirianni and Shane have done with this offense two 614 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: years in a row. Now, you know, after watching what 615 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: the Bengals defense has looked like two years in a row, now, 616 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: you know, like it just it seems weird that you 617 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: wouldn't wait, And so maybe teams have finally, you know, 618 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: have finally kind of managed to get smart and say, Okay, 619 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: why do I need to to hire someone right now 620 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: unless you fall in love with the candidate, you know, 621 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: if you are, hey, that's our guy, and hire them, 622 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: you know, then you know, and I think that's probably 623 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: what happened with Carolina, is there, like like we were 624 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: not interested in the first time head coach here. You know, 625 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: we did that with rule with the college jump did 626 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,719 Speaker 1: not work. We want someone with experience, and Frank's probably 627 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: going to get an offer if we don't bring them 628 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: in immediately. And I think that's why that hire happened. 629 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: And I also, you know, my understanding is they were 630 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: trying to sell Wilkes on the idea of becoming a real, 631 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: you know, a very highly paid assistant to continue to 632 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,239 Speaker 1: coordinate the defense, that it was going to go one 633 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: way or the other. That if they could convince Frank 634 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: to be the OC and Wilkes to be the head 635 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: coach and just pay them both almost you know, just 636 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: giant salaries like what Jerry's doing with dan Quinn in Dallas. 637 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: That that was going to be their approach. And if 638 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: Frank was probably like, now I'm good, there's I'm gonna 639 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: get a head coaching gig, you know, between one of 640 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: these four openings, I'm gonna get one of them. So 641 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: that's why they went that route. So that may be 642 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: why they did it, but anyway, I'm rambling now, I'd 643 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: like to see them do that. I'd like to see 644 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: them hire their OC. I'd like to see them figure 645 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: it out before the guy that they really want is gone, 646 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: because there are so many openings and I assume that 647 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: Tom and Brandon are you know, and John are really 648 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: good at at identifying and hiring and once they've got 649 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: this thing figured out and plus the other thing, Chris 650 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: is like, to me, the longer it takes, just not 651 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: crazy about the look. It suggests that yeah, you weren't 652 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: really blown away, you weren't really wild, and now you're 653 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: just kind of settling like if you are wild, Like, look, 654 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: that's what happened with Staley, you know, he just blew 655 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: them away, and they were like, hey, we're not letting 656 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: this guy get on a plane and going to Florida 657 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: and interviewing for Philadelphia. We're just gonna hire him right now. 658 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: And that's what happened, because he was scheduled to hop 659 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: a plane fly to Florida meet with Lurie and they 660 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: were so impressed that they did not want him to 661 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: get on that plane and they made him the offer immediately. 662 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: So that's the other thing too, is like it suggests 663 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: to me that, you know, maybe none of these candidates 664 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: is really wowed them, you know, and they're they're waiting 665 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: to get that feeling that oh yeah, this is here 666 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: we go. Steckles the guy, Joe Brady's the guy, Like 667 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: I feel it, you know, the second they walked out 668 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: of the room, Hey, don't let them leave the buildings. 669 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: Let's figure out what the number is and let's get 670 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: it put to bed. Yeah, that's the only thing I'm 671 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: a little concerned about. Yeah, the longer it goes, You're right, 672 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, well, who else is going to come 673 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: through the door at that point in February? You know, 674 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: the guys who are on staff for these championship teams. 675 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: They're either gonna get head coaching jobs or they're going 676 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,719 Speaker 1: back to their team. So all the guys that you 677 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: need to interview or essentially out there to interview, so 678 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: you know, they say, don't flitch on the field, don't flinch, 679 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: get your guy in here and uh and get get 680 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: to work. So I'm very intrigued to see who of 681 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: the coordinators that are still playing get jobs, because you know, 682 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,760 Speaker 1: we talked about Tamiko Ryan's He's talking about job, Jonathan Gannon. 683 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: Who who It sounds like maybe the Texans um which 684 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: was interesting because I heard Gannon was like on the 685 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: chopping block. You know earlier this season, you know that 686 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 1: they brought Fangio in to be a consultant because they 687 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: weren't happy with what Gannon was doing, and then Sirianni 688 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: went on a rant defending him last week. Yeah, because 689 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: that because that was out there. Yeah, I was like, 690 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: you know, well, I was like, well, I know where 691 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: he's gonna show up if if he gets let go, 692 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: he's gonna be on the plane with us, because I 693 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: can promise you it's like Brandon's best friend. You know, 694 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: there was no no denying that. Um. But then obviously 695 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: you know, turning around and like I said, like seventy 696 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 1: three sacks in a season, seems like he's doing a 697 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: pretty darn good job. But um, I had heard Shane 698 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: connected to Carolina, So now that Frank got hired there, 699 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 1: I don't know if Shane's gonna be able to And 700 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: again I think I just I feel like the Eagles 701 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: are gonna win that game. Um. I just think with 702 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: that defensive front and the ability to match the physicality 703 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: you know of of San Francisco, and the ability because 704 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: of all that size they have on the interior of 705 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 1: that line, you know that that I just feel like 706 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,280 Speaker 1: they probably haven't and that could work in against Shane 707 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: and Gannon for that matter. Um but I'd be really 708 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: surprised if if Demiko didn't get one of these gigs. 709 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 1: He's so good, you know, and by all accounts you 710 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: hear the way players rave about his relationships is attend 711 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 1: his attention to detail. UM just kind of has that 712 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: head coaching, has that head coach feel about him, So 713 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: that would not surprise me at all. Like from the Eagles, 714 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: I think I think Stikeen I would put ahead a 715 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: little bit of gannon. I think I feel like, you know, 716 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: in terms of getting a gig, um, I don't know 717 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: if anyone on the chief staff is going to get it. Um. 718 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: You know, I think the enemy. Like the whole thing 719 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: with with eb is why doesn't he have a job 720 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 1: by now? You know, there's got there's something there, There's 721 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 1: got to be something there, and that the interview processors. 722 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: It just it seems weird to me, like why would 723 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: someone have not hired him by now? Um? You know, 724 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: Naggi got hired, Peterson got hired. I think kaf Go 725 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: is gonna end up getting hired. And you know, maybe 726 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: maybe this is just a here's people that reportedly want 727 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: to interview him to be an OC and maybe Andy 728 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: would just let him go and say, yeah, let's get 729 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,760 Speaker 1: you out of here. Go somewhere where you can call plays, 730 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: do it for a year, you know, kill it, and 731 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: then you'll get your head coaching gig. Too many people 732 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: are scared that you're just working under me and not 733 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: you know, calling plays or something. But um, and then 734 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: for the Bengals, like I said, Lou would be the 735 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: one um that that seemingly you know, would be the 736 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 1: guy that that people are going after before we get 737 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 1: out of here, your thoughts on Engles, Chiefs, Charges and 738 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,879 Speaker 1: no of these teams very well. The Bengals have all 739 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: just I think even over the last few weeks have 740 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: turned into this like last year, kind of like an 741 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: underdog story to like, Yeah, they're almost like the villain now, 742 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: like they're calling they're calling Arrowhead Burrowhead. I mean, they 743 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 1: got a lot of a lot of confidence on the 744 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: personality of their quarterback. Yeah, you know, that's Joe Burrow. 745 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: You know, it's what he does. He's you know, what's 746 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: your window my career? You know that's I love him. 747 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: You know, I loved him in college. I love I 748 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 1: know it's you know, it's an AFC team and he's 749 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: connected to Herbert and all that whatever. I love the guy. 750 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: I freaking love him. He's he is fun to watch. 751 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: He's a great quarterback. Um, and I said it. I 752 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 1: think I think we might have talked about it. Look, 753 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 1: I was very confident that Bengals team was going to 754 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: beat the Bills, very confident. Um. I was confident the 755 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: forty nine ers, Uh, we're gonna win their game. The Eagles, 756 00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: I wasn't so sure about it. And of course they 757 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: had the most dominant win of the weekend. Yeah, but 758 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,839 Speaker 1: um yeah, I think they match up really well. They 759 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 1: match up really well with the Chiefs, and there's a 760 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: reason why he's undefeated against him. The Chiefs secondary has 761 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: been an issue all season. Their front is really good. 762 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: Karloftis has come on, Frank Clark. We know Chris Jones is. 763 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: You know, because of the injury to Aaron Donald, Chris 764 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,479 Speaker 1: Jones has been the best interior lineman in the league. 765 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 1: So it's a it's an early front that can get 766 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 1: you in a hurry, especially right up the gut with 767 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: with Jones there. So it's not gonna be easy. But 768 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: I just look at I look at Tyler Boyd, T Higgins, 769 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, Joe Mixon, and then I look at Marquez Veldez, Scantling, 770 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: Juju Smith, Schuster, Isaiah Pacheco. I granted, Travis Kelsey is 771 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 1: the best weapon of them all, but you know, if 772 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: you look at the history of these teams when they meet, 773 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: you know they've been able to keep Kelsey in check. 774 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 1: You know, they're drawn up pretty good plans to say, Okay, 775 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:04,320 Speaker 1: he's not like it's just it's inexplicable that the Jags 776 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: allowed that guy to catch fourteen balls. It's just it's 777 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: how does that happen? It's the one thing you can't allow. 778 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: And I know Andy Reid is so good, it's scheming 779 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 1: it up and finding ways to get him open. But 780 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 1: holy Kyle, you know that's just that's just crazy. Fourteen 781 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 1: catches for the one guy that you know they want 782 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 1: to go after repeatedly. So, you know, I look at 783 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: it as I think Burrow is playing as good as 784 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: any quarterback in the league right now. Um, you know, 785 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 1: they're on they're on a run. They just went into 786 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: Buffalo and made it look easy. So I feel like 787 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: I feel like they're saying, and I like their defense better, 788 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: you know, I just I like their defense a lot, 789 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: especially agains of Patrick Mahomes. He's not gonna be one 790 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: hundred percent. You know, you could you could analyze his 791 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 1: limp on Wednesday, didn't have one. He's not gonna be 792 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. Yeah, you know exactly. So I I 793 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: like the Bengals and the Eagles, um as much as 794 00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 1: I you know, love Christian McCaffrey, having called a bunch 795 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: of his games in college, and I pull for him. 796 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,839 Speaker 1: I think he's just so underrated, even though a lot 797 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: of people say he's the best running back in the league. 798 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: He's just he is such a weapon. Love watching Thiebo 799 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: and IUK and how physical they are. How can you 800 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 1: not love George Kittle, you know, and not to mention 801 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: that defense is every level has incredible playmakers. I think 802 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,280 Speaker 1: it's what nine I think it's nine interceptions for their safeties, 803 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: Gibson and Newfunga. You know, we know it's the best 804 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: linebacking duo. You know in green Law and Warner. It's 805 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: not close in the league. And then you got Boston 806 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: Armstead up front. So I think I think they're gonna 807 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,439 Speaker 1: be good games. I really do. I think they're gonna 808 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 1: be good games. But I just feel like the ability 809 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: for Jalen Hurts to run compared to you know, Brock 810 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,919 Speaker 1: Purdy in the stress that puts on a defense, that's 811 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,919 Speaker 1: really good because you've just got to play a little 812 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 1: bit more on your heels, knowing that could be coming 813 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: right at you if you if you allow them to 814 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 1: break contain and it can go for a long way 815 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: and touchdowns. I feel like Eagles get the advantage there. 816 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 1: And I just feel like with all the skill on offense, 817 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 1: the you know, it's crazy it is to bet against 818 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes who's been in five straight championship games, which 819 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,879 Speaker 1: is just nuts. That's you know, that's what I got. 820 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: What you got, I got. I got Eagles Bengals too. 821 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: I think I think Cincinnati's just too talented. They're playing 822 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,760 Speaker 1: too locked in right now, and I think the injury 823 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,839 Speaker 1: to Mahomes and I could be proven completely wrong. And 824 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 1: you know it's stupid on Monday when the Chiefs are 825 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 1: going to the Super Bowl. Man, when it's Chiefs forty 826 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 1: nine ers on Monday, exactly, it could be a rematch 827 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: from a few years ago. But I think the Eagles, uh, 828 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: you know, we talked about the way they can form 829 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: each and every week and that San Francisco defense will 830 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 1: be the best they play. But they have the weapons 831 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: to combat anything you throw at them. You know, the 832 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: receivers are elite, the running games elite. Jalen Hurts has 833 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 1: played at an MVP level. You mentioned the defense, the 834 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 1: way the defense has played, and I just feel like 835 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: for as good as Brock Purdy has been, man, you know, 836 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: you just wonder can he go to Philadelphia on the 837 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,800 Speaker 1: road and in the NFC Championship. It's just another Yeah, 838 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: it's it's different, you know, Like I give him all 839 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 1: the credit in the world. I look at the games. 840 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 1: They won twelve straight games. I think money um and 841 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 1: in parties won like seven or eight of them. Um 842 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: Or he is eight and zero's he's eight and zero 843 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, he would be ten and zero if 844 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: he won the if he won the Super Bowl. Yeah, 845 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 1: I think that's more of a like I think Brian 846 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,399 Speaker 1: Dable's gonna win Coach of the Year, but I think 847 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, if you want it. I would not be 848 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 1: upset in the least for what he was. There's a 849 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 1: million ways you could go. You could go, you know, 850 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 1: starting zero in two and ended up where they are, 851 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor, Pete Carroll with the Seahawks, Brian Dave. You know, 852 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 1: that's why there was It's so funny people get so 853 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,319 Speaker 1: upset when they see the finalist of like where's Pete Carroll, 854 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:50,879 Speaker 1: Where's Ken where Serrianti exactly exactly. It's like, yeah, there's 855 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that are seven. I just 856 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: want to make sure I got to write seventy sacks 857 00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 1: seventy for the Eagles. Brandon ram had eleven, Josh Sweat 858 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:06,880 Speaker 1: had eleven, Hassan Reddick had sixteen, and Hargrave had eleven. Like, 859 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: to me, that's just that's a lot for brock party 860 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:14,399 Speaker 1: to overcome. Kaizer h and Lindvall playing in that game too, too, 861 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 1: charger starters from last year. Huh exactly, yeah, exactly, you know, 862 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 1: and that look you credit credit Howie. They needed help 863 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 1: on the interior. He went out and got Lindvall, Joseph 864 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: and Dominican Sue like, oh, that's all just gonna go 865 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,320 Speaker 1: grab these two guys that make sure we get a 866 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: little depth there, and they just bring him in waves, 867 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,320 Speaker 1: They just roll him through, you know. And that's and that, 868 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:39,400 Speaker 1: by the way, is without um uh Jordan Davis who 869 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 1: got hurt, you know, and how big of an impact 870 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: he was having early in the season and they're still 871 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 1: this good. How he has been you know, the saf 872 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 1: for like the Jalen Reagor selection, how he has been 873 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 1: on fire in the draft and the way he's constructed 874 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: this team, trading Carson Wentz when he had to drafting 875 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts and everyone thought he was crazy in the 876 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 1: second round. I mean he's he's done a number of 877 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 1: things that have like elevated this team in all three phases. 878 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 1: Um Nick Sirianni. I don't think a lot of people 879 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 1: had him on the head coaching radar. He interviews, he 880 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 1: gets it, bringing in Shane steike In, a guy who 881 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,319 Speaker 1: we know really well. Um, they've just they've hit all 882 00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: the right notes and this could be their chance to 883 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 1: get back to the super Bowl. So we'll see. Both 884 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 1: games should be fun. We'll start to pick this thing up. 885 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,359 Speaker 1: Hopefully we have an offensive coordinator to announce next Thursday. Money, 886 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 1: you know, I don't have any question. We will Maybe 887 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 1: we can get him on. Yeah, hopefully we get him on. Um, 888 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 1: we'll get some guests on now Chargers Weekly. I didn't 889 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 1: go away, guys. We still do this every week every Thursday. 890 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if it's January, June, or September. So 891 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 1: we will see you guys there Thursday. Money. I appreciate 892 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:48,319 Speaker 1: a man enjoy the games.