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Speaker 1: Jesse Holly, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels. Gonna try to keep
Speaker 1: it in between the ditches today, how you guys, feeling
Speaker 1: you good? Feeling good man, good beer from Louisiana. You know,
Speaker 1: everybody else have their side roles. They call them side roles,
Speaker 1: they call them soft curves. But he los, Hey, man,
Speaker 1: I'm running that ditch over the ditches for sure. So
Speaker 1: out of between them two ditches, and you'll find we
Speaker 1: shouting the messay to the eighteen different houses. Listen right past,
Speaker 1: right past the ditches, the trailer parks. So you know,
Speaker 1: I know I know my way around them ditches. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go, there you go. Well, and we're talking
Speaker 1: about something earlier. Man, It was a question that uh
Speaker 1: my man is supposed to ask us, and that wasn't
Speaker 1: supposed to be nice. So what is that question? I
Speaker 1: want to jump right into it because I'm curious. What
Speaker 1: is that question? Kurt? Well, it's not it's not it's
Speaker 1: not that it's not nice. It's just I don't think
Speaker 1: I want to participate in this segment. This is Kurt segment.
Speaker 1: This he's leading out with fire. I'm sure. I'm sure, Jesse,
Speaker 1: you'll have any lead. I don't Nate. Oh, I know,
Speaker 1: fellas is. It's easy to it's easy to answer things
Speaker 1: like this whenever COVID is going on and you're working
Speaker 1: in your living room. But when they opened the doors
Speaker 1: back up and I have to go back in that
Speaker 1: building and get on that airplane and those buses with
Speaker 1: these coaches and players, it's a little bit different. So Kurt,
Speaker 1: you don't You're not faced with that. So go ahead, Kurt,
Speaker 1: this is your segment. What would you like to what
Speaker 1: you were telling Rose? You got me really excited about
Speaker 1: doing this. Now it's got me all worried, paranoid. Come on, no, wow, Jesse,
Speaker 1: So I guess you would take over the Kurt, Oh, Jesse.
Speaker 1: Jesse will definitely jump in on this Jesse, Definitely, I
Speaker 1: guess the question I posed to in our no Kurt, Kurt, Kurt, Kurt.
Speaker 1: Just read the first one, two, three, the first seven
Speaker 1: words of that email. Just read it just like you
Speaker 1: said it. The question to us is McCarthy. Has McCarthy
Speaker 1: been better than Garrett? And we know there's been questionable
Speaker 1: coaching calls already, We've been talking about that. He also
Speaker 1: came in promising a lot of new analytics in kind
Speaker 1: of boosting the offense with some new thoughts and practices.
Speaker 1: But the question is has he really done it? And
Speaker 1: this is based off an article that Next Gen Stats ran.
Speaker 1: When was the last week or so, maybe two weeks ago,
Speaker 1: But if you look at the stats, the next Gen Stats,
Speaker 1: it kind of brings into question if he's really following
Speaker 1: up on his promises. There are some stats like early
Speaker 1: pass play percentage. There's a lot of criticism about where
Speaker 1: the Cowboys running too much and McCarthy, Kellen Moore, they
Speaker 1: are passing more on the early downs, first second downs
Speaker 1: or so. It's fifty four point eight percent last year
Speaker 1: under Garrett, sixty two point one percent this year under McCarthy,
Speaker 1: and that's sixth in the league. Obviously, we know he's
Speaker 1: going for more on fourth downs. They have already tried
Speaker 1: more fourth down attempts in the history of the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: They've already set a team record. In the just eleven
Speaker 1: games in they've been successful forty eight percent of the time,
Speaker 1: which was better than last year, but that still ranks
Speaker 1: only twenty sixth in the league, So you have to
Speaker 1: kind of guess where that's working work. What I found
Speaker 1: really interesting and fascinating and made me kind of bring
Speaker 1: up this question is that one of the criticisms that
Speaker 1: Garrett got was that the offense was too dull, that
Speaker 1: they weren't using play action enough, that they weren't shifting
Speaker 1: enough the pre snapped shifts moving the receivers down. But actually,
Speaker 1: if you look at what McCarthy's doing it there play action,
Speaker 1: they're actually using play action less than they did under
Speaker 1: Garrett last year. Last year they used at twenty four
Speaker 1: point seven percent of the time. This year are using
Speaker 1: a twenty point two percent of the time, which ranks
Speaker 1: twenty fourth in the league. And then if you look
Speaker 1: at the pre snap shifts moving the running backs around
Speaker 1: the receivers around last year they were using pre snap
Speaker 1: shifts sixty point one percent of the time, which we
Speaker 1: ranks sixth in the league. This year they're at fifty
Speaker 1: point six percent of the time, which is thirteenth in
Speaker 1: the league. And that nine point five percent drop, that
Speaker 1: difference is the fourth highest drop in the NFL, which
Speaker 1: makes you wonder are we getting what we asked that
Speaker 1: before n before Nate jumps in. I misread the question,
Speaker 1: so that on actually is not that bad of a question,
Speaker 1: because your email says, is McCarthy been better than Garrett?
Speaker 1: I thought it said, is McCarthy better than Garrett? And
Speaker 1: I was like, of course you did Louisiana education. Man,
Speaker 1: of course you did. Of course you did the guy
Speaker 1: who went to school in Louisiana. I know you misread
Speaker 1: the email. I know that you have trouble with comprehension. Current,
Speaker 1: which which runs our publication, which runs our publications, wrote McCarthy,
Speaker 1: no stop, is McCarthy been back? That is that is
Speaker 1: what sale newspapers the way he presented that. You know,
Speaker 1: the average guy would have bought that because of how
Speaker 1: you presented that. That's great edity, uh, scaring shining, scared
Speaker 1: to death was coming to end. But but I will
Speaker 1: say this, right here man. Uh in defense of coach McCarthy. Uh.
Speaker 1: And it's something just said, man, it's the mindset of
Speaker 1: the players and whether they're at and what they're trying
Speaker 1: to do. Uh. A lot of things you're acting from Uh.
Speaker 1: Our offense, you know, if they are capable of doing,
Speaker 1: if they were one hundred percent, even the analytics of it,
Speaker 1: they if they were one hundred percent, but they're not.
Speaker 1: That's so that's one of the one of the things
Speaker 1: they pointed out was that even under when Dak was
Speaker 1: behind playing quarterback, the percentages were down from last year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's where I'm going And the reason, the reason
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and you can just market us now, the
Speaker 1: reason the Cowboys will and always will be in this
Speaker 1: position and they will be in this position next year
Speaker 1: because the one thing they're not going to address the defense.
Speaker 1: The defense had something to do with this. And when
Speaker 1: our defense, when when Zeke doesn't turn the ball over
Speaker 1: and our defense get a turnover, our chances are going
Speaker 1: back and look about our chances to go up greater
Speaker 1: of winning. Okay, before this year we didn't have to
Speaker 1: worry about Zeke turning the ball over. But every other
Speaker 1: year we had to worry about our defense. So until
Speaker 1: you ain't something on your defensive end, all of these
Speaker 1: things and with the offensive coordinator of Kella Moore, this
Speaker 1: is what this these this is lining up just like
Speaker 1: I thought it would. You know, mister sixteen and old man,
Speaker 1: I'm surprised to hear you say that that the dom
Speaker 1: has that big of an impact on them. What the
Speaker 1: offense is trying to run? You you you you, you
Speaker 1: look at you look at Kansas City chief as high
Speaker 1: powered as their offense is, and nobody's gonna question Green
Speaker 1: Bay or Kansas City and their quarterbacks. But at different
Speaker 1: times in this year, their defense have have not helped.
Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about it. Kn't send them to
Speaker 1: my Green Bay and it hurts tremendously, and you've seen
Speaker 1: where they've gotten off to a slow start, but their
Speaker 1: defense have done just enough to keep it close enough
Speaker 1: so these guys can have a chance to win in
Speaker 1: the end. I'm not saying the defense have to be dominant,
Speaker 1: no one not in today's NFL. But defense has to
Speaker 1: be able to hold on when you're our owner comes
Speaker 1: on the day out of the game, when he first
Speaker 1: appears on and he said, well, coach, why did you
Speaker 1: feel you had to do the the the reverse the
Speaker 1: way y'all did it so early in the way he
Speaker 1: looked in the past and all this. He said, what
Speaker 1: we felt we was gonna get gashed. If your defense
Speaker 1: could just hold up, maybe maybe coach McCarthy won't think
Speaker 1: we're gonna get gashed. Maybe they're gonna maybe maybe they're gonna.
Speaker 1: And I'm you know what, I don't be like a
Speaker 1: good Baptist preacher. You every chance I get to turn
Speaker 1: it back to defense, I'm gonna turn it back to death.
Speaker 1: I'm just being honest with you. Man. Yeah, but what defense?
Speaker 1: No fame? What about the fact you know we we
Speaker 1: we were talking last year the offense needed to, you know,
Speaker 1: have more movement. They they were too boring. We wanted
Speaker 1: to see him like the Rams and even McCarthy and
Speaker 1: in some of his h before he got here and
Speaker 1: some of his comments raved about the Rams forty nine
Speaker 1: ers or okay, but but but you didn't. But you
Speaker 1: didn't come in and run the offense. You came in
Speaker 1: and read Jason Garrett offense stay in place. So how
Speaker 1: can you expect to change something? When you said Keller
Speaker 1: Moore did Keller Moore is doing a great job. He's
Speaker 1: doing an awesome job. I'll just tweak him a little
Speaker 1: bit and everything will be will be great. That's what
Speaker 1: he said. A week after he said that he's gonna
Speaker 1: be calling plays. Then a week and a half later
Speaker 1: he said kell him, So this this is what you get, man.
Speaker 1: Along with the injuries, I'm serious, along with the injuries.
Speaker 1: We've had some and I still think our offensive line
Speaker 1: has done a decent job being who is lining up
Speaker 1: playing for us. So that should he have come right
Speaker 1: in and said, we're doing my offense my way, no
Speaker 1: matter what or because of because of the COVID situation.
Speaker 1: But as the season went on, just like we saw,
Speaker 1: this defense evolved a little bit. I seeill got high hope.
Speaker 1: So the defense as far as where they have progress
Speaker 1: since they got with the uh jelly doughnuts and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, and I'm still happy about that, but rather
Speaker 1: so so. So here's how I was looking around and
Speaker 1: I finally found it, And here's how I look at
Speaker 1: those analytical stats you and here's why. And here's why.
Speaker 1: Because you're you're you're you're taking one, you're taking sample sizes,
Speaker 1: you're taking an offense that was under the tutelage and
Speaker 1: uh instruction and play calling of Jason Garrett for the
Speaker 1: large majority of his time here the last year or so,
Speaker 1: Keller Moore was having it right. So all of that
Speaker 1: knowledge and information and players, everything that was based on
Speaker 1: any information that you give me from a year, two years,
Speaker 1: three years, five years up to ten years ago. All
Speaker 1: that information is built upon the foundation of this is
Speaker 1: the formula in which Jason Garrett wanted to operate, the
Speaker 1: formula and players in which he wanted to operate with.
Speaker 1: We We've said this a million times, and Kurt Shannon,
Speaker 1: Chris Nate, it's so profound. And I told you guys,
Speaker 1: when the season begins, look how the season is shaking out.
Speaker 1: I said this in the spring. I said, those teams
Speaker 1: who have the most veterans and who've been around one
Speaker 1: another the longest, with those type of head coaches will
Speaker 1: see the most success because it is so difficult. It
Speaker 1: is so difficult. I'll say it again, It is so
Speaker 1: difficult to try to put together a team, a game plan,
Speaker 1: roster via zoom. I get it. It is the way
Speaker 1: that we the world is now running. But that's not
Speaker 1: how coaching is done, and maybe we all have to
Speaker 1: evolve with coaching, but we're not to that point yet
Speaker 1: coaches in the National Football League, probably in all sports,
Speaker 1: but we're talking about football. Football is a hands on
Speaker 1: type of thing. I need to I can't just put
Speaker 1: it on a zoom call or put it on a board.
Speaker 1: I need to go out and see what it looks like.
Speaker 1: I need to see is that guy going to be
Speaker 1: able to do X, Y and Z in this assignment,
Speaker 1: in this call, and if he can, if he cannot.
Speaker 1: That's how I based upon how I'm willing to build
Speaker 1: this roster. The Cowboys team and Mike McCarthy and his
Speaker 1: staff had zero opportunity. Remember the first time, the very
Speaker 1: first time that Mike Nolan, McCarthy, Kellen, who name a coach,
Speaker 1: that they were able to physically put their hand to
Speaker 1: a player legally was when we got to training camp.
Speaker 1: Think about that now here it is. I'm a brand
Speaker 1: new coach. I'm coming into a brand new situation. Whatever
Speaker 1: my beliefs are, whatever my ways about going, all the
Speaker 1: stuff that that comes along with me who I am
Speaker 1: as a coach. I am not physically able to implement
Speaker 1: that until six seven eight months after I'm hired. And
Speaker 1: the way that football works, it is a chronological order
Speaker 1: of how things are put in. I insert this, I
Speaker 1: look at this, we draft, we see rookies, we bring
Speaker 1: it back veterans, we have them all together. So all
Speaker 1: these steps that these coaches normally are allowed to take
Speaker 1: in the way that they process players, in the way
Speaker 1: that they process off his defense, special teams, all that
Speaker 1: was lost. So for a new coach to come in
Speaker 1: and want to implement his things, it is so difficult.
Speaker 1: HiT's why you had to say, hey, we're going to
Speaker 1: rely on Kelly Moore so much because everything that we
Speaker 1: have on this roster, he and they are familiar with
Speaker 1: each other more than they are with what I am
Speaker 1: as a coach, what I want to do as a coach.
Speaker 1: They're more familiar because we haven't had the necessary physical
Speaker 1: touch time to put in different things. And then you
Speaker 1: enter in the season, Yes it is. You know why
Speaker 1: Sean McVay is able to do all this motion and
Speaker 1: moving and stuff. They've practiced it, don't You don't come
Speaker 1: into a season not being able to practice that stuff
Speaker 1: and think you're going to be able to do it
Speaker 1: efficiently effectively. On Sunday. That's why they're able to still
Speaker 1: do those things because of the amount of practice that
Speaker 1: they have put in. That core has been together, That quarterback,
Speaker 1: those receivers, that running back, that offensive line, at OC,
Speaker 1: all these guys have been together for a while. So
Speaker 1: it's almost just, hey, let's just polish up on what
Speaker 1: we already know coming into this year training camp. I
Speaker 1: got four weeks. I got ninety guys that I have
Speaker 1: to evaluate, that I have to cut, that, I have
Speaker 1: to build a roster. Oh, by the way, I also
Speaker 1: have to put in some sort of game plan with
Speaker 1: zero preseason games to do so. So you get into
Speaker 1: a season and all of a sudden, you're kind of
Speaker 1: almost just trying to stay afloat and try and not drown.
Speaker 1: Oh damn, three and a half weeks in, I lose
Speaker 1: my starting quarterback. What do I do now? No one
Speaker 1: ever prepares for what happens when the QB one goes down.
Speaker 1: I forgot what coach said that, but it was talking
Speaker 1: about painting man and saying like, like, you know, when
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. I think it might have been Howard Muddy
Speaker 1: was talking about like, hey, you know, Peyton Manning is
Speaker 1: so controlling at the line of scrimmage. What do you
Speaker 1: do when a guy like that goes out? How do
Speaker 1: you function? And he basically said, we're ft. If he
Speaker 1: goes down, we're screwed. That's most of You can say
Speaker 1: whatever you want about the knick Foles situation that happened
Speaker 1: and and in Philly that that is more of anomaly
Speaker 1: than it is an actual thing. You know, you can
Speaker 1: give me the well, Matt Cassel win eleven and five
Speaker 1: when he was in New England. Tom Brady went down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but people felt to realize, yeah, Matt Cassel won eleven
Speaker 1: to fly. They didn't make the playoffs. They didn't make
Speaker 1: the playoffs. And so when your QB one goes down,
Speaker 1: you that that plan is done because everything that you
Speaker 1: put into you put on the shoulders, on the mind
Speaker 1: on who the QB one is. And now you've had Kellum,
Speaker 1: you've had Andy Dalton, you've had h Garrett Gilbert, and
Speaker 1: you're saying, you lose your left tackle, you lose your
Speaker 1: right tackle, and you have all these things functioning. You
Speaker 1: got the pandemic, and now you're trying to say, how
Speaker 1: do hell do I keep this thing afloat? And it's
Speaker 1: unfortunate that we're in a situation and it's the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys and it's the biggest franchise in the world, and
Speaker 1: everybody's watching and everybody's expecting great things because you hired
Speaker 1: this new coach. But people aren't looking into the details
Speaker 1: of how this thing is built. So they write these
Speaker 1: articles and they want to compare a sample size of
Speaker 1: what this team was early on when they had their
Speaker 1: starting quarterback to what they are now to last year
Speaker 1: and coach Garrett, who's had a full roster, who's built
Speaker 1: the roster, who's built the players, who's programmed the players,
Speaker 1: who's everything that they had in there to a year ago.
Speaker 1: So sometimes these articles that are written they leave out
Speaker 1: those facts, and people hang on to the man, we'll
Speaker 1: look at this and look at that, and how come
Speaker 1: it isn't what it is this year like it was
Speaker 1: last year, and they conveniently leave out all these other
Speaker 1: things in the process. When you're trying to evaluate all
Speaker 1: these numbers, say whatever you want, and how you have
Speaker 1: to be able to function and move what they depleted roster.
Speaker 1: When QB one goes down, all hell normally breaks loose
Speaker 1: and you're seeing it right now. You're seeing it right now? Okay, good,
Speaker 1: that's good. If this dude was trying to write a
Speaker 1: novel of some sort on one on one football and
Speaker 1: how it's being built in the process and the chroninological
Speaker 1: auders that Jesse won't, we wouldn't be able to do
Speaker 1: this show, Jesse, all right, So the next time you
Speaker 1: go off like that right there, Shannon, can you cut
Speaker 1: him off? Nope? It was a great. It was great
Speaker 1: what you just told us our listeners to tweeted and
Speaker 1: tell you how great a job you just done. But
Speaker 1: but wow, bro, you know what freaking micap big pass.
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Speaker 1: See Jesse I can read. I read that all by myself.
Speaker 1: It took me time to get it right. I know
Speaker 1: that's a thirty minute, thirty second live read. They got
Speaker 1: me here, but hey, you know what, anything for Tommy John,
Speaker 1: anything for Wingstop. Yes, those guys have been with us
Speaker 1: from the beginning, So all right, you know what, I
Speaker 1: was thinking the same thing. I just didn't want to
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't want to say it out a lout.
Speaker 1: I was thinking the same thing. That sounds good, that'll
Speaker 1: keep you warming night. It's supposed to get cold this week.
Speaker 1: It is already December, fellas, it is December the first.
Speaker 1: And by the way, it's Tuesday, and I'm taking the
Speaker 1: rest of the afternoon off and I'm gonna chalk it
Speaker 1: up to research because the Steelers are playing the Ravens
Speaker 1: here at two thirty and I need to watch that
Speaker 1: game to know what our opponent's gonna be for next week.
Speaker 1: But think about what. It's the first and you're just
Speaker 1: talking about it getting cold. We live in a great place. Man.
Speaker 1: It's the similar and you're just like, man, it's finally
Speaker 1: getting cold outside. It's the simbler first. I know, it's
Speaker 1: so great, so great. It's a great thing. We don't have.
Speaker 1: We don't have very many seasons. We don't have the
Speaker 1: four seasons in Texas. We have winter. It gets it
Speaker 1: goes from ninety degrees and you have about two weeks
Speaker 1: of seventy degree weather and then it goes to thirty
Speaker 1: and then it flips. It flips in the springtime. So
Speaker 1: what we're saying, Kurt, I don't know. Show man. I
Speaker 1: know you. I know you're trying to do. You're trying
Speaker 1: to do. Let me know, you're trying to write the book.
Speaker 1: You know you're trying to be. But come home, man,
Speaker 1: that that game is tomorrow. Like Chris said, so, oh
Speaker 1: is it tomorrow? Yeah? I thought I thought it was today.
Speaker 1: He didn't the Cowboys game get moved. Yeah, Cowboys are
Speaker 1: now Tuesday, which is crazy. So yeah, that's me, isn't
Speaker 1: It turned out to be more and more like Madden.
Speaker 1: Just play what you want to and and and it
Speaker 1: a little little fun fact. This will be the very
Speaker 1: first time that the Cowboys and then will complete the calendar.
Speaker 1: To complete the weekly calendar for the Cowboys, this is
Speaker 1: the very first time that the Cowboys will ever play
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. They played on Monday, Wednesday's, Thursday's, Fridays. I
Speaker 1: think like a couple of times on Saturday. This will
Speaker 1: be The Cowboys are the first team in NFL history
Speaker 1: to ever play on every single day of the week.
Speaker 1: Jes Wow, didn't I know that? Bring it? Put that book, Jesse.
Speaker 1: Jesse talks so much. The first segment, Kurt forgot how
Speaker 1: to talk. He forgot how to speak. Job, I got
Speaker 1: other responsibilities. I'm not gonna do it. Jesse gonna talk?
Speaker 1: Uh crazy? Hey, is there any crazy? Kurt? Kurt brings
Speaker 1: up another great question. Is there anything that you guys
Speaker 1: are seeing, being former players that would you to believe
Speaker 1: that the players are losing confidence in this coaching staff. No,
Speaker 1: it's just the season is so long, and it's been
Speaker 1: so hard for them, and so many injuries have gotten
Speaker 1: these guys that if you don't have that personal dog
Speaker 1: in you, it's easy, it's easy for this thing to
Speaker 1: overwhelm you. I mean, every time you do something good,
Speaker 1: every time you do something positive, you know, you don't
Speaker 1: have a holding, you have somebody get injured. You know,
Speaker 1: every time you do somebody something positive, you don't get
Speaker 1: a fire yard offside, You get somebody fumbing in the ball.
Speaker 1: So I mean the worst when the worst happened to you,
Speaker 1: And I've been there on the one in fifteen season
Speaker 1: when the worst happened. Man, it's just ugly. And if
Speaker 1: you ain't got no dog in you, this thing can
Speaker 1: overwhelm you individually and as a team. And ain't got
Speaker 1: a lot of times, ain't gotten to do with no coaches,
Speaker 1: you got something to do with you. That's a good point.
Speaker 1: You brought up, Nate the one and fifteen team. They
Speaker 1: asked Jerry the fan this morning if he had ever
Speaker 1: seen a season like this with coaching staff being, you know,
Speaker 1: being thrown as much adversity as coach McCarthy has this week,
Speaker 1: and he said, yeah. Jimmy Johnson the one in fifteen years,
Speaker 1: He actually compared this year to the one in fifteen years.
Speaker 1: So do you see any similarities between this year and
Speaker 1: in Jimmy's first year? Oh? Man, you know now the
Speaker 1: reason we didn't see no similarity, Jimmy will cut by.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be bad by you know, taking to one
Speaker 1: even an issue because that is because you can't do
Speaker 1: no what first and second year of players. I mean,
Speaker 1: ain't nothing you're gonna do it for second year player.
Speaker 1: Jimmy were trying to get down to the raw bones, babe.
Speaker 1: If you could not play, Jimmy did not want you.
Speaker 1: And that was the bottom line. He didn't hold on
Speaker 1: to no wasted trash. He was playing you to seek
Speaker 1: as you play and if you couldn't buy it, can't
Speaker 1: do that. In the day's NFL. It's called salary cap.
Speaker 1: We can hold the team hostage. You owe me five
Speaker 1: more million guarantees, So why how can you cut me?
Speaker 1: And if you do, it's gonna hurt you and not me.
Speaker 1: Do the players that like this year, like Jesse was
Speaker 1: talking about, they didn't have a preseason that you know,
Speaker 1: coach didn't have an opportunity to put in this system.
Speaker 1: Are they do they kind of give him a pass
Speaker 1: then this year or they know they're not getting the
Speaker 1: past if these coaches and I'm thinking that coach McCarthy
Speaker 1: got some of this in him. That's why I'm kind
Speaker 1: of reluctant to go at him. I think coach McCarthy
Speaker 1: got from dog in, but he just don't want to
Speaker 1: say nothing right now. I think they ain't they I
Speaker 1: think every player that can possibly be gone that they
Speaker 1: don't feel I can help this team. You know that
Speaker 1: ain't under some type of guaranteed money. I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna move him. You have to, even if you have
Speaker 1: a bad season next year, you got to move that
Speaker 1: stuff out of your house. Man, if you don't, you're
Speaker 1: gonna be a harder and you're gonna be on TV
Speaker 1: for something else. Jesse, I was gonna ask you that
Speaker 1: exact question. Do you think this roster will look a
Speaker 1: lot different, a little different or about the same turnover
Speaker 1: that you normally have in an offseason? Do you think
Speaker 1: they'll clean house like Nate said, Yeah, I think it'll
Speaker 1: look a lot different. I mean, we already know that
Speaker 1: what fifty three percent of your roster turns over every
Speaker 1: single year. I think it's more than that. I think
Speaker 1: it will be more than that. And simply because as
Speaker 1: a coach, you have to create your own culture. And
Speaker 1: with this type of coach, this isn't a winning culture.
Speaker 1: The players aren't a winning culture, and and and there
Speaker 1: aren't enough players in here that have You know, these
Speaker 1: players that are remember, at one point time this team
Speaker 1: was the youngest football team in the league average age
Speaker 1: twenty like twenty five, twenty four years old. Now they're old.
Speaker 1: Now those guys are like, uh, they're trends, and those
Speaker 1: guys kind of are in their ways. And that's one
Speaker 1: of the hardest things to do is come into a
Speaker 1: veteranus situation where you have guys that are established guys
Speaker 1: in the league. They're stuck in their ways. It's so
Speaker 1: hard to change men that have been in the league
Speaker 1: and been in a certain situation for so long. And
Speaker 1: most of these guys have been under the tutelage of
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett for all, if not for a large majority,
Speaker 1: if not all, of their careers. So in order for
Speaker 1: me to be able to get my true feel and
Speaker 1: my true touch on this team, I gotta get rid
Speaker 1: of the old. I gotta I gotta let that stuff
Speaker 1: go and now usher in a new, fresh, moldible set
Speaker 1: of minds and hearts and energy. Because the guys that
Speaker 1: were here have already been set in their ways. And
Speaker 1: the only way you're able to come in and change
Speaker 1: that is you gotta do something. You gotta do a
Speaker 1: little bit of housekeeping, and some of those guys who
Speaker 1: have been here and been star wars here, you have
Speaker 1: to find new addresses. Should we start saying that now
Speaker 1: we reach that point, and should guys like Reggie Robinson
Speaker 1: by plan or it's it's it's this is the this
Speaker 1: is the this is the gift and the curse of
Speaker 1: this season because we want to see the Bradley and
Speaker 1: Eys and the Reggie Robinsons and all those guys playing.
Speaker 1: But then you look up and you say, we have
Speaker 1: the easiest to the schedule left over and we're still
Speaker 1: in the punt for the NFC Division. Like that is
Speaker 1: the frustrating part of this because you know what's coming
Speaker 1: in the future. You know that there's going to be
Speaker 1: a house cleaning in the future. But because that and
Speaker 1: again it is your job to put your team in
Speaker 1: the best position to win now. And hell, there are
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys who are still saying, I got
Speaker 1: playoff bonuses in my contract. There are coaches who have
Speaker 1: playoff bonuses in their contract, and they're still even if
Speaker 1: it's even if it's like the Shannon size blimmer of hope,
Speaker 1: there are still some players who have There are still
Speaker 1: some players who have this kind of hope that you
Speaker 1: know what, dog, what if we do get in the playoffs?
Speaker 1: What if we do what if we do get in
Speaker 1: the playoffs? And it can we reak a little bit
Speaker 1: of havoc Again. From the outside looking in we say, hell, no,
Speaker 1: you can't. But I can tell you as someone who's
Speaker 1: been on that side, I believe because I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: we just do we could be good. We could do this,
Speaker 1: we could do that, and we could just do these things.
Speaker 1: And that's the hope that a lot of these guys
Speaker 1: have in the locker room. And that's the gift in
Speaker 1: the curses that we know what the future hold and
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys will be gone as soon
Speaker 1: as we're mathematically eliminated the curses. That's the gift the
Speaker 1: curses we have. I haven't been mathematically eliminated. As bad
Speaker 1: as we've been, we still are in the hunt to
Speaker 1: win this division, to go to the place. Did you
Speaker 1: see did you see Philly last night? Did you Yes? Hey?
Speaker 1: Hey Chris Bean, Hey, Chris Bean, Chris show, Chris Bean.
Speaker 1: We're doing the show on here, Chris Bean. Appreciate your brother,
Speaker 1: Chris I love it, Chris, Hey, but but but honestly,
Speaker 1: did you see Philadepth Did you see Philadephia last night? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know, like I said, I've been three or thirteen
Speaker 1: and i've been one of fifteen, and I've seen what
Speaker 1: bad teams look like. And I've asked Kurt, I said, Kurt,
Speaker 1: did you watch the game? I say, because a lot
Speaker 1: of times when you on bad teams like we have
Speaker 1: right now, and bad teams that I played on, I learned.
Speaker 1: I went, I usual to sell my Super Bowl tickets,
Speaker 1: but I made up in my mind that you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be sorry anymore. I'm gonna go and
Speaker 1: see a super Bowl. And I did that one. Yeah, me,
Speaker 1: my mom, my dad, and I think one of my brothers.
Speaker 1: I said that we're going to the super Bowl, and
Speaker 1: because I wanted something different. But you don't have a
Speaker 1: lot of guys that want something different on this team.
Speaker 1: They don't want to watch. When you watch the Philadelphias,
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, sometimes the Giants, sometimes the Red skin Skins,
Speaker 1: I mean human there Washington football team. Listen to excuse me, man,
Speaker 1: how much bad football can you watch? I'm being honest
Speaker 1: that's just that's not that turns your stomach sometimes to
Speaker 1: watch that much bad football. Myself last night watching that game,
Speaker 1: and I don't know why I felt sorry for Carson Wentz.
Speaker 1: Oh you standing around, he was not gonna plague. I
Speaker 1: was just like, I was like, I would not want
Speaker 1: to be Carson Winch right, Like I don't want And
Speaker 1: kudos to him because like everything has been blamed on him,
Speaker 1: and some of it rightfully so, and yet he's not
Speaker 1: throwing one player under the bus. He stepped up, he's
Speaker 1: took accountability for his terrible leaves play. But at some point,
Speaker 1: like you look at his face, and I just like
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, man, I would hate to be
Speaker 1: Carson Winch right now. Like he threw some nice passes
Speaker 1: last night that would dropped and I said to myself,
Speaker 1: he went to the sideline, he just kind of looked.
Speaker 1: Everybody stayed like, oh he the only one having on
Speaker 1: a mask and he don't and everybody six feet away
Speaker 1: from it and ain't because the COVID evil. I'm like,
Speaker 1: Philly not the place you want to be the guy
Speaker 1: and suck, like like there are far other nicer places
Speaker 1: where if you suck and you're still the guy like
Speaker 1: QB one you like, I guarantee you Carson ain't going
Speaker 1: to the movie theater or to the grocery store because
Speaker 1: they're not. They're not letting him just walk around the
Speaker 1: city and just do things like that in the way
Speaker 1: that he's been playing to win the team. Look, they will.
Speaker 1: First of all, they will cush you out. Second of all,
Speaker 1: they might hit you in the head, like somebody might
Speaker 1: hit you in the head. That's how nasty Philly is.
Speaker 1: Somebody might in their cars and let the windows down
Speaker 1: and pull their mask. Now see me, Carson, wentz you sup. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't care, bro. Yeah, here in Dallas, they'll talk
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Speaker 1: It's December. Welcome back to the Jesse Holly Show, the
Speaker 1: final chapter audio book, audio podcast. Hey December the first
Speaker 1: don't miss the Virtual Christmas extravagans are presented by Albertson's
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Speaker 1: December the eleventh and the twenty fourth at six pm Central,
Speaker 1: or on demand at Dallas cowboys dot Com Slash Christmas.
Speaker 1: If we aired it for the first time on Friday,
Speaker 1: and it's actually really cool, go check it out. It's
Speaker 1: a very unique thing. They used to do it live
Speaker 1: on the plase at the Star, and now with the
Speaker 1: COVID restrictions and everything, it is a virtual event, So
Speaker 1: go check it out. It's pretty it's pretty nice, all right, fellas,
Speaker 1: we only got about nice and it's left in the show.
Speaker 1: Hold on, let me say something right quick like, Shannon,
Speaker 1: Let me say something right quick like. Okay, say it, Jesse.
Speaker 1: You're not allowed to talk. Let Kurt talk. Shut up, Jesse.
Speaker 1: People don't want to hear me talk. People want to
Speaker 1: hear it. Jesse has good things to say. He's been
Speaker 1: in the live room, he's been on the field. They
Speaker 1: don't want to listen to me, don't want to listen
Speaker 1: to him. Just edit something up to Shannon. Should Jerry
Speaker 1: be the one about ten thousand million dollar yacht or
Speaker 1: should I definitely asked him that? Well, let me tell
Speaker 1: you what I think about Jerry owning this yachting on
Speaker 1: Plant I'll tell you what, man, I love my owning.
Speaker 1: Whatever you say, and I go along with Hey, fellas,
Speaker 1: I we are going to get get ready because Friday
Speaker 1: we are going it's National Cookie Day. We're going to
Speaker 1: get some free cookies from TIFFs treats delivered to your
Speaker 1: front doors and we will eat them on the show. Lies,
Speaker 1: how do you think about y'all? See my teeth, man,
Speaker 1: I gotta go all the way to Gumpter to get
Speaker 1: these beautiful white teeth plead only to come back and
Speaker 1: some cookies. Yes where I've never heard of gun through before.
Speaker 1: Where is that? It's on the other side of prosper
Speaker 1: pros is a new is the new rich development being developed?
Speaker 1: You know they got to. I got this certain young
Speaker 1: lady who cleans my teeth, man's. You know, she jams
Speaker 1: it up in the real heart and you're not like
Speaker 1: pain and she like diddling it out. So lady, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is this is the yeah, the hy genius that
Speaker 1: helps I can't think of the young lady. Then, hey, Fred,
Speaker 1: what's the young lady name who helps me out at
Speaker 1: the dentist place. Her name is Kim. Yeah, thanks for jamming, Kim,
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Well, right here, I tell it right here.
Speaker 1: I have enjoyed the show, fellas, and because Kurt asked
Speaker 1: a great question, Jesse gave a great answer, and me
Speaker 1: and Shannon just enjoyed it. N I don't I don't
Speaker 1: understand why you act like you didn't talk the first
Speaker 1: seven minutes of the show. Why you can see that
Speaker 1: Jesse was counting. I always felt he was counting. Well, no,
Speaker 1: because I'm looking at the clock and I'm saying, well,
Speaker 1: will I get the chance of count? Want to make right.
Speaker 1: I want to make sure that you know why Jesse
Speaker 1: was watching the clock, because Jesse was like, why so
Speaker 1: Nate's gone one minute, okay, two minutes, three minutes, four minutes, five,
Speaker 1: seven minutes, So that means I gotta go fourteen minutes
Speaker 1: because he's got to double everybody up on this show.
Speaker 1: So that's why he's watching the clock. Quickly, hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on, j quickly, when are you gonna give us
Speaker 1: another update on your new experience with the fans at
Speaker 1: the stadium because there's more people now, so Jess, go
Speaker 1: ahead on. Yeah, no, we don't want to hear about that. Um, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: as long as we have an understanding that I am
Speaker 1: going to talk. We just as long as we want
Speaker 1: to say that. That is the best part about relationships.
Speaker 1: As long as there is an under there's never any conflict.
Speaker 1: Is curtain that is dogs bark nor MoU. I rather
Speaker 1: had a dog, didn't have the thing that the computer doing.
Speaker 1: So go get the dogs, man, Yeah, I can call
Speaker 1: them in. Oh, while we have some time left, I
Speaker 1: do have to talk. This is an important talking though. Um.
Speaker 1: But this is this is uh, this is Holly's Helping
Speaker 1: Hand charity. You guys know how to do this every
Speaker 1: single year. I've been doing like the last ten or
Speaker 1: so years. And so we opened up the donations yesterday.
Speaker 1: We'll be taking donations for Holly's Helping Hands up until
Speaker 1: December nineteenth for the new viewership, for the old viewership.
Speaker 1: I have a charity called Holly's Helping Hands and I
Speaker 1: find families in the DFW area who are in need.
Speaker 1: Um and man, listen, we've all been a part of
Speaker 1: this year and we know that there's a ton of
Speaker 1: families who are in need. This Holly of a season
Speaker 1: and so basically I need y'all money. I need y'all money. Um.
Speaker 1: This is me being real because we want to bless
Speaker 1: some families this year. No, no kids should wake up
Speaker 1: on Christmas without a gift underneath the treat. I was
Speaker 1: a kid who had to experience that, and I vowed
Speaker 1: that whenever I got into position that I would be
Speaker 1: able to help. And I've been doing this for ten
Speaker 1: plus years and it's been great, and we've touched hundreds
Speaker 1: of families, and I want to continue the tradition, and
Speaker 1: so I need I need your help. And if you
Speaker 1: if I've ever made you laugh, if I've ever made
Speaker 1: you cry, if I've ever made you cry from laughing
Speaker 1: or laugh from crying, or you hate me, or I
Speaker 1: give you information or any of that, if I've ever
Speaker 1: done anything to your life in a positive way, I
Speaker 1: think I'm asking. I'm asking humbly for you to donate.
Speaker 1: And don't think because hey, I will have his five
Speaker 1: bucks or ten bucks or whatever like that can go
Speaker 1: su a long way and helping people this season in need.
Speaker 1: So don't think because I don't well, I don't have
Speaker 1: much any and everything helps. And if you're not in
Speaker 1: a position to give this year, offer a prayer. Pray
Speaker 1: for the Pray for me, Pray for our donations, Pray
Speaker 1: that there is someone out there who sees it or
Speaker 1: hears it and wants to donate. So you can hit
Speaker 1: me up on Twitter at mister fourth and Long. The
Speaker 1: link is in my bio that's at mister m R
Speaker 1: four T number four th h A and D l
Speaker 1: O n G at mister fourth and Long. Or you
Speaker 1: can just email me and I can send you the
Speaker 1: link that way at Holly's h O L l E
Speaker 1: Y s Helping h E L p I n G
Speaker 1: hands A h A n D S at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1: And we want to just bless as many found as
Speaker 1: we possibly can this holiday season. So this is the
Speaker 1: we started yesterday and today's Giving Day. Today's like National
Speaker 1: Giving Tuesday or something like that. So what what you know,
Speaker 1: what a great day to do. So awesome, awesome, awesome.
Speaker 1: I will go give you five dollars of my heart
Speaker 1: earned money, ten dollars from this show. Thank you, give
Speaker 1: them a little something. I see you when I when
Speaker 1: I see you. I still like what we call out
Speaker 1: yet last year it was balls of Holly. We didn't
Speaker 1: then we come up with that. Ye yeah, balls what
Speaker 1: a great seasons, hey, balls with balls of holly. Yes,
Speaker 1: with all the with all the the COVID stuff this year.
Speaker 1: Is there anything like we can do it like us
Speaker 1: physically as a as a show, as a group. Can
Speaker 1: we can we donate our time or anything like that
Speaker 1: or do you just want the money? Well? I want
Speaker 1: the money, but there there will come a point in
Speaker 1: time where we actually have to shop for these kids.
Speaker 1: So okay, I mean I partner, let us know what date,
Speaker 1: give us a day we can all for go shopping. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm serious, do that, Jess. I will. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I know I have the date already, Nate, but you
Speaker 1: know it's not forever. I don't need one hundred thousand
Speaker 1: people to show up. We know we have a big
Speaker 1: time show. Okay, So I'll reach out to those who
Speaker 1: bring one hundred thousand dollars. Dollars listen, whoever you want.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, talk about deck the halls.
Speaker 1: You bring one hundred thousand dollars, you can do whatever
Speaker 1: you want to. Jay Hollarge, let's do it. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: get out twitters that date so we can try to
Speaker 1: work around it and get and be a part of that.
Speaker 1: I got you, Holly will do stuff for money if
Speaker 1: fits for his charity. Absolutely right, balls of Holland. I mean,
Speaker 1: let's do that up, man, Let's do dinner. Let's do
Speaker 1: an early dinner and then go shopping for some folks.
Speaker 1: That'd be fun's they can happen this beam. You got
Speaker 1: to show up this time. You're so let's do it.
Speaker 1: Let's do it, all right, fellas, we gotta get out
Speaker 1: of here. Tomorrow. We will be back. You know what,
Speaker 1: maybe we'll have chapter four of Jesse Holly's audio book,
Speaker 1: Hanging with the Boys. You'll have to tune in the scene. Jesse,
Speaker 1: good word, Come on, Jesse, Nate, Kurt, Chris, Thank you guys.
Speaker 1: We will see y'all tomorrow, same time, same place. Free
Speaker 1: cookies on Friday. We eat cookies on Friday. Can wait.
Speaker 1: Stop for presenting the show, and thank you to all
Speaker 1: of you for listening. It is the Christmas season. It
Speaker 1: is December the first, it is national givvings. Let's go
Speaker 1: give Jesse some money and see if he'll do stuff
Speaker 1: for it. All right, fellas, see all tomorrow. Peace, letter Peace.
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