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Speaker 2: Come on, man, pick it up.

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Speaker 1: There's some easy one yeah, two? Go?

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Speaker 2: Where are you at? I'm thinking, oh, uh, Tim Kelly, we.

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Speaker 1: Got three number sixteen? More? Uh you guys. Oh, I

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Speaker 2: Oh uh the Bears. George Blande, George, George.

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Speaker 1: You know you're right? And one more probably they considered

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Speaker 2: Indianapolis United Scots. Yeah, you're cheating. No, you are too.

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Speaker 1: You google down.

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Speaker 3: He went from none to all, spinning him out. I'm like, hey, hey, hey,

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Speaker 3: shut Thomas over there. I had you going for a minute.

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 4: Everybody on Peanut Tollman And this is the NFL Player's

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Speaker 4: Second Act podcast and with me as always as my

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Speaker 2: I am cold, Harper, I am cold.

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Speaker 1: I am cold.

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Speaker 2: Get straight through. I guess he's got a great one here. Man,

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Speaker 2: a great legend.

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Speaker 5: I grew up watching this man him lead his team

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Speaker 4: He led his team to four Super Bowls. He's a

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Speaker 4: cancer survivor. He's a Hall of Fame quarterback. He's raised

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Speaker 5: He's also the pride of East Brady, Pennsylvania. You know

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Speaker 5: what I mean, Fish is the pride of East Brady, Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 5: Our guest today, quarterback Extraordinaire of the k Gun, Jim Kelly.

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Speaker 1: Let's go oh yeah, oh yeah, let's go that shittert

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Speaker 5: Get me some of that.

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Speaker 1: They still make it. Yeah, okay, get me.

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Speaker 2: What's it like being in Canpon for Hall of Fame Weekend?

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Speaker 1: Probably it's a dream I never had. Yeah, growing up

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Speaker 5: As far as the Hall of Fame, how much pride

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Speaker 1: In that statement. I've had more people tell me that again,

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Speaker 2: You make, Josh Allen, five hundred rooms. I think you

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many rooms it was, but I'll

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, give me your business.

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Speaker 2: You remember it.

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Speaker 1: I know the whole thing because Marty, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you told you this part. He was ticked off

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Speaker 1: I saw some stars, but I came back. I kept

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Speaker 5: I looked back on that thing because we knew you

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Speaker 2: I got one for you.

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Speaker 4: What was your welcome to the NFL moment?

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Speaker 1: long as you can go there and be a difference maker,

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Speaker 1: that's what's about. I came up with the same make

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Speaker 1: a difference today for someone who's fighting for there tomorrow

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Speaker 1: because there's so many people out there that are fighting

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Speaker 1: every day for life. There's a lot of people that

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Speaker 1: are looking to give up on their life. But if

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Speaker 1: you can be that difference maker, you don't have to

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Speaker 1: be a Hall of Fame quarterback or a celebrity artist

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Speaker 1: or whatever the case may be to be that difference maker.

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Speaker 1: You guys are doing a great job of being a

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Speaker 1: difference maker too, And it's just not me. It's so

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Speaker 1: many people that put your heart, mind and so on

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Speaker 1: into being a difference maker for that person out there

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Speaker 1: that was ready to give up. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 4: I like that, appreciate that successful life, great career. In

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Speaker 4: the NFL Hall of Famer, Mount Rushmore, you get four

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Speaker 4: picks to put people that have helped you become the

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Speaker 4: man you are today. You get four picks for Mount Rushmore.

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Speaker 4: Who would those four people be.

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Speaker 1: Oh, boy, Mount rushber Well Number one, my dad, number two,

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Speaker 1: my high school football coach. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 1: he just passed away about three months ago, seventy five.

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Speaker 1: I took him to thirty two Super Bowls. I took

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Speaker 1: him all over the world. He was my best friend.

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Speaker 1: And I should be Terry Henry Joe Kelly, which is

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Speaker 1: my father, Marv Levy with a doubt, because I gotta understand,

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Speaker 1: Marv allowed me to call all my plays. I called

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Speaker 1: all my plays the last six years in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: And if he wouldn't have allowed that to happen, I

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Speaker 1: probably wouldn't be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: now because he allowed me to do that. But I

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Speaker 1: also knew that I had James Lofton, Andre Reid, I

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Speaker 1: had Thurner Tollas behind me. I had a hell of

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Speaker 1: an offensive line show. I've been very brash. And then

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Speaker 1: the fourth one, Wow, that's a off one. Huh. Maybe

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Speaker 1: I'll put it this way. This is an interesting quick story,

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Speaker 1: Howard Schnellenberger. Here's my college coach. I remember where I'm from,

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Speaker 1: pitt Pittsburgh. You either pitter Penn State. Well, I have

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Speaker 1: the Penn State nity line. I wanted to go there,

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Speaker 1: and I thought I did enough to show Joe Paturno

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Speaker 1: that I can play quarterback. Well, unfortunately he told me

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Speaker 1: that they didn't want me a quarterback anymore. They got

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks they want, they said, but we'll give you

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Speaker 1: a we'll give a scholarship. But he's a linebacker. And

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Speaker 1: I'm like, God, to be kidding me. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to play the linebacker. I mean, I was being recruited

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Speaker 1: to play the linebacker, but I wanted to play quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So again, fast forward. Now I go to Miami. I

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Speaker 1: signed with University of Miami. Now we're traveling as a

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Speaker 1: freshman freshman quarterback up to Penn State to take on

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Speaker 1: Penn State. They were like, I don't know, eight one

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Speaker 1: and we're three and six. Were horrible, and I'm the

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Speaker 1: back up. I'm sitting at pregame meal as you guys

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Speaker 1: won a pregame meal, I get tap on my shore.

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Speaker 1: I turn around. I looked up. Is coach Snellenberger his son,

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Speaker 1: come with me. I need to speak with you. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: oh no, what did I do wrong with you? Remember?

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Speaker 1: I went to University of Mind, me of Florida. We

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Speaker 1: got a lot of fun down there. And I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: walking away from him. What deck is she call me

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Speaker 1: out for? He said, son, I decided you're starting today.

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Speaker 1: I go what he goes. I decided you deserve the opportunity.

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Speaker 1: You're starting to get ready. First thing I did was

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Speaker 1: I coached, I need to go to bathroom. I wonder,

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Speaker 1: I threw it all over and I came back up.

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Speaker 1: We wind up upsetting him. We'd be in twenty six

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Speaker 1: or ten. I'm you know. The following we were playing

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Speaker 1: Alabama and freshman sensation Jim Catley taking on you undefeated

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Speaker 1: Alabama Crimson Tide. I was three for fifteen, three interceptions,

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Speaker 1: and I got knocked out cold in the third quarter.

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Speaker 1: My first four starts were against Penn State, Alabama, Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame in Florida. Wow, those four are my first and

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Speaker 1: I came from a really small town. Eight hundred people

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Speaker 1: go traffic lights. Sixty five of my graduating class, you know,

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Speaker 1: on my football team here. That was my fourth starts

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Speaker 1: and Howard Schnellenberger pulled me your shot as your freshman

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Speaker 1: and told me I want to start, And that was

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Speaker 1: the change in my life.

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Speaker 2: M Man, I love that.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome. That was a four pretty damn good ones.

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Speaker 1: That is yeah, I'll take that.

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Speaker 5: I want to get you out here because I know

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Speaker 5: we got to go, but you I gotta. I would

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Speaker 5: be sad if I let you walk out of here

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Speaker 5: and I don't ask you this. You said you called

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Speaker 5: all the plays, yes, all right? How did you keep.

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Speaker 2: Thurman, Thomas and everybody else happy?

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Speaker 5: Like when I'm calling the plays like I kind of

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Speaker 5: want to shine, I'm want to throw it.

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Speaker 2: How did you decide?

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Speaker 1: You know what?

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Speaker 5: All right, let me feed because Thurman had to get

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Speaker 5: his touches.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but but did you know who won m VP?

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Speaker 1: Rick got your call, the places Starner got m v P.

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Speaker 1: Thurman had Silven yard Rusher. Oh, trust me, that's one there.

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Speaker 1: Catcher too out of the bat. Here's the thing with Thurman,

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Speaker 1: and the thing about him was when I played quarterback,

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Speaker 1: it did not matter my backside. I knew thermentally he

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Speaker 1: knew we're the block who to block, so I never

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Speaker 1: had to worry about and the big thing. The only

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Speaker 1: guy that I always had to talk to Andre Andre.

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Speaker 1: I swear to God, that's Steve Tasker James Loft. Andre's

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00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: favorite saying was right here, bro right here. I told

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Speaker 1: we be going to know right here, bro, right here,

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Speaker 1: I go broch a freaking running play right here. But

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Speaker 1: he was that good. I get it. I mean Andre

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Speaker 1: led the league. I mean the guy was amazing. James

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Speaker 1: Loft was amazing. Thurman Thomas behind. I knew one thing

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Speaker 1: that I did not do. I was never selfish. I

546
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: never got down inside the five yard line. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: like I'm going to throw the ball to come. The

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Speaker 1: reason we were so I knew I want to get Andrew.

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Speaker 1: I don't care. I would get there run pass if

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Speaker 1: I knew they're getting in the near. Jone was running football.

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Speaker 1: I was running the ball some and I'm never going

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Speaker 1: because I've seen it before. Happened that a lot of quarters,

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Speaker 1: some quarterbacks would rather throw it. Of course you'd rather

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Speaker 1: throw it, but for me, it was getting in Jone.

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Speaker 1: That's all time, because we're gonna win by getting that

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Speaker 1: ball Rick there, Steph kicking the field. We're gonna run

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Speaker 1: it into the jone. So thank you. I've been very prossed.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that explanation.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, but I know we we appreciate you coming

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Speaker 4: on a podcast blessed us. These are amazing stories. And

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Speaker 4: I think the best story you blessed us with was

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Speaker 4: your locker room and after every game, you guys were

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Speaker 4: family and everyone came to your house if you.

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Speaker 2: Weren't supposed to be there. I had a bounce. It

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Speaker 2: was going to bounce you right up out of there.

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Speaker 1: No, they never got they never got chance come in.

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Speaker 1: I mean sure leaders would come to our door and

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Speaker 1: they'd have her husband jury, who's that? That's my husband?

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Speaker 1: Want you can come in? But he can't. She said,

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Speaker 1: well you about three hour world joke.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we we really do appreciate you coming in and

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Speaker 4: it's giving us these stories. This was this is awesome,

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Speaker 4: this is great. I remember you as a kid, huge fan,

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Speaker 4: and this is just a treat.

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Speaker 2: For us to have you come on this show.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate Thank you, man, Thank you man. Appreciate you. Jim.

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Speaker 5: Next time we're gonna get some of those Miami stories too,

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Speaker 5: it's all about the you cool boy. I can't wait

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Speaker 5: to get that one. So anyway, Man, wherever you are

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Speaker 5: maybe hey, thank you guys for ever you always tune in.

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Speaker 5: can always check out the NFL pages of NFL's new

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Speaker 4: Yeah it's not new, but it's just a YouTube channel. Yeah,

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