WEBVTT - Black History is American History

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<v Speaker 1>My league has how the knowledge you want, My league,

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<v Speaker 1>but has how a knowledge you need?

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<v Speaker 2>Lead.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they have out the books that the whole wild

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<v Speaker 1>world one up read My League.

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<v Speaker 2>But welcome, welcome, Welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>To Malie's Bookshow, Bringing a World Together with Books, Culture

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<v Speaker 1>and community.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoa, it's twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>This is season three, episode one. Come on now, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta get back into it. I gotta get my

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<v Speaker 1>mind right. This episode that I'm going to be doing

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<v Speaker 1>today is what's been in the airwaves. Plus it's Black

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<v Speaker 1>History Month, and so this is called black history is

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<v Speaker 1>American history.

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<v Speaker 2>So I hope you enjoyed this episode. But hey, I'm back.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm back, and I'm back Malak's Book Show, Bringing a

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<v Speaker 1>World Together with Books, Culture and community.

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<v Speaker 2>One more, more, more, more thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I also have an episode I'm going to feature that

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<v Speaker 1>I interview Katie Mitchell, who wrote the book Prose to

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<v Speaker 1>the People. I interviewed her because that book is coming

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<v Speaker 1>up in April. And guess what Malik Books is in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's a book about black bookstores and their impact

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<v Speaker 1>all across this nation America, and so I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a picture book, it's beautiful pictures.

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<v Speaker 1>It talks about Eliite books in all the decades that

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<v Speaker 1>we've been doing this work as a black bookstore, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's we just one amongst others that are featured in there.

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<v Speaker 2>I called it the Black book Revolution.

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<v Speaker 1>This story has never been told and so I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>that we're featured in.

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<v Speaker 2>It because we have put into work and there's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot of body of work. So pros to the people

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<v Speaker 1>by Katie Mitchell. That interview is going to be on

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<v Speaker 1>here along with my talk about Black history is American history.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm woven indeed, I because that's what has been

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<v Speaker 1>rolled back, So I'm woven all this in together. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>peace enjoyed the episode. It's twenty twenty five and we're

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<v Speaker 1>starting our third season of Malak's booksh Up bringing a

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<v Speaker 1>world together with books, culture.

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<v Speaker 2>And community. It's twenty twenty five. This is our third season.

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<v Speaker 1>We hadn done over one hundred episodes in the last

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<v Speaker 1>two seasons. This particular episode is what's been in the

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<v Speaker 1>streets on in the airwaves. We're talking about black history

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<v Speaker 1>is American history because of this DEI this been all

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<v Speaker 1>in the media talking about diversity, equity, and inclusion.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, the father and founder of Black History Month, it

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<v Speaker 1>started off Black History Week.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Carter G.

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<v Speaker 1>Whisson who wrote a book called mis Education of the Negro.

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<v Speaker 1>And let me tell you, that's a powerful book. He

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<v Speaker 1>wrote it decades and decades and decades ago. He's an educator,

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<v Speaker 1>and the book is relevant to this day, this Education

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<v Speaker 1>of the Negro. The thing that stood out the most

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<v Speaker 1>about that book is the fact that he said, if

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<v Speaker 1>you control a person's education, you don't have to worry

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<v Speaker 1>about their actions. If you put a barrier in front

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<v Speaker 1>of them, they will carve out a path through the

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<v Speaker 1>barrier or door. That right there stuck out in my

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<v Speaker 1>mind because.

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<v Speaker 2>Black people in America don't control their education all right.

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<v Speaker 1>We go to public schools primarily, and even when we

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<v Speaker 1>go to most of the private schools, they are usually

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<v Speaker 1>funded by other cultures, other races.

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<v Speaker 2>So we don't control our.

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<v Speaker 1>True education in America. And one of the most dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>things in the country is a person who's uneducated.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen.

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<v Speaker 1>It costs more on this system in this country to house,

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<v Speaker 1>to do social reform, do all these different projects in programs.

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<v Speaker 2>When someone's educated. So it is a benefit to this

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<v Speaker 2>nation to this country.

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<v Speaker 1>If a person is educated, y as can read and

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<v Speaker 1>write and arithmetic, because it's a burden on society if

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<v Speaker 1>you're not educated. So it's a system in place. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>is required to go to school, everyone is required to

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<v Speaker 1>take stating tests to assess the effectiveness of.

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<v Speaker 2>A school or where you at as a person.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and the American is not doing too well in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of that on these standardized tests. All right, considering

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<v Speaker 1>it's the mightiest nation on the planet, it's the major superpower,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's the leading nation of innovation, but yet these

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<v Speaker 1>test scores are horrible compared to other nations who have

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<v Speaker 1>far less resources and so forth. Well, anyway, DII Diversity

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<v Speaker 1>Equity and concludion, Diversity, equity and inclusion. Black history is

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<v Speaker 1>American history, and we don't need permission to celebrate our

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<v Speaker 1>culture and our achievements because.

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<v Speaker 2>We made a contribution blood and sweat in this nation.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the reasons why this nation is mighty

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<v Speaker 1>as powerful is because of black culture, black people and

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<v Speaker 1>the achievements that we made many inventions. I don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to go through that because black history is world, not

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<v Speaker 1>just American, but it's wild history because black people taught

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<v Speaker 1>the world. Math, science, we educated. We wasn't jungle bunnies

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<v Speaker 1>running in the jungle when they came to Africa to

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<v Speaker 1>en slave maybe some black people, but black folks built pyramids.

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<v Speaker 1>Black people had high science and math. Black people was

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<v Speaker 1>culturally civilized, and they're taught this as secret societies and

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<v Speaker 1>certain books. You go read doctor Ben Jackman's book, Black

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<v Speaker 1>Men of the Now. You can read Mother of Civilization

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<v Speaker 1>by doctor Joseph bin Jackman.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, you can read J. A.

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<v Speaker 1>Rogers and a Black American who wrote a book in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenties.

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<v Speaker 2>World's Great Men of Color.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, you can read his book that he wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>Africa's Gift to America.

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<v Speaker 2>Black history is American history.

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<v Speaker 1>Black people contributions to this nation have helped this nation

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<v Speaker 1>to become.

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<v Speaker 2>Mighty powerful and proud. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>When people watch us in sports, watch US win Olympic medals.

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<v Speaker 2>World championships, they are excited.

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<v Speaker 1>And it has united this nation under a lot of areas,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly sports, and he'll integrate us in a lot of ways.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's this national pride.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of it has to do with black success

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<v Speaker 1>in sports and entertainment.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Now, in business, come on now.

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<v Speaker 1>In business, we were the top mathematicians before we became slaves.

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<v Speaker 1>So we were builders, just like we built that white house.

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<v Speaker 1>We wasn't just jungle bunnies uneducated coming over here. We

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<v Speaker 1>had knowledge where wisdom it was stripped from us. That's

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<v Speaker 1>another story. But I'm just here to talk about Black

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<v Speaker 1>history is American history, and we don't need DEI to

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate our culture. We didn't have it back when Jay

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<v Speaker 1>Rogers wrote Miseducation of the Negro and started Black History Month.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't need permission from no president or.

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<v Speaker 2>No leader or no school board.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna celebrate our culture because it is our culture

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<v Speaker 1>and is our responsibility to pass it on to.

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<v Speaker 2>The next generation.

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<v Speaker 1>We have achieved the Norman success in this nation, despite racism,

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<v Speaker 1>despite slavery, despite listen, I know some of you don't

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<v Speaker 1>like to hear all of that. I know some of

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<v Speaker 1>y'all don't want to be reminded of your past, but hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's part of American history. I'm not for counsel culture.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just tell the truth. Let's just be honest, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So right now, it's twenty twenty five, we got a

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<v Speaker 1>new president and all this d I.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about diversity, equity, inclusion.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of companies are eliminating, the federal government is eliminating.

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<v Speaker 2>So and so the question is do we need to

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<v Speaker 2>be successful in America? So I personally listen. I got

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<v Speaker 2>a bookstore. Believe books, all right, I've read a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of books.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen a lot of gut it, okay, And do

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<v Speaker 1>we need social programs and to be successful? I don't believe.

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<v Speaker 2>So.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's nice to have. Then it's a benefit to heaven.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not against having these social programs, you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>level up, all right, I'm not against that at all.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't want us thinking that if we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have them social programs like d I, that we can't win. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here to tell you can win. No more excuses.

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<v Speaker 1>You can win without d I. We crawed up about

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<v Speaker 1>a slavery didn't have no social program and look.

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<v Speaker 2>Where we're at.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have to have these programs to win and

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<v Speaker 1>be great and successful. We been able to achieve and

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<v Speaker 1>no missuccess in this country, regardless of discrimination, regardless of racism.

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<v Speaker 2>So it is d I gonna stop black folks from winning. No,

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<v Speaker 2>it can only stop you if you believe that, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe black people are one of the most resourceful, resilient,

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<v Speaker 1>and strongest people on this planet. And if they don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to give us. I live through affirmative action, I

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<v Speaker 1>lived through multiculturalism. I've lived through d I it just listen.

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<v Speaker 1>History peats itself.

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<v Speaker 2>When you don't get it right. So we always keep

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<v Speaker 2>going back to the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And then another generation say, oh, as reverse racism.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you're not hiring the best people for the job. No,

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<v Speaker 2>and you getting favoritism because of your skin color. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't been through that. Do affirmative action. I didn't been

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<v Speaker 2>through that through marketing called and multiculturalists.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm living through d They give it, they take

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<v Speaker 1>it away, they give it, they take it away, they

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<v Speaker 1>give it, they take it away. It's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>blacks to think that we have to have these programs,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not against it. If we have it, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not against it. But you're not gonna tell me that

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna stop someone like jay Z from being successful

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<v Speaker 1>or Beyonce, they being theirs. Okay, we have people do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude invented I forgot his name. He invented the water gun.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, made millions from it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh right, So man, I can go on and on

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<v Speaker 2>about modern day inventions.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe Robin his name is Robert Hope Bryant. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a billionaire.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I ain't got to speak for him, but this

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<v Speaker 1>brother said Deis did.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, all right, I'm not looking at we got sick.

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<v Speaker 2>Look we in nineteen sixties, we had civil rights movement.

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<v Speaker 1>We are what eighty something years up from or sixty

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<v Speaker 1>something day? Okay, from nineteen sixty four civil rights moving

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<v Speaker 1>to today.

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<v Speaker 2>We got data to study. The best way to learn

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<v Speaker 2>from the past is study the past. Study history. If

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<v Speaker 2>rewards you for your research, look at the data. Look

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<v Speaker 2>at the data. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>We can keep getting all these social reforms and handouts, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden, another generation come boom every

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years and we're back to square one.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>If we want permanent change, permanent salute, we got to

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<v Speaker 1>learn from the past in order to gain what we

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<v Speaker 1>need in the future.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, History rewards you for your research. We got

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<v Speaker 2>the data.

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<v Speaker 1>We got the data when integration took place, we got

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<v Speaker 1>the data.

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<v Speaker 2>How a lot of our black business in the South

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<v Speaker 2>folded up because we didn't recycle the black dollar no more.

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<v Speaker 1>We was forced to do dough segregation, black bus companies,

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<v Speaker 1>black restaurants, black this, black.

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<v Speaker 2>Dad, and you was forced to support these companies.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you have a choice to go to other companies

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<v Speaker 1>because it's you know, they got rid of the Jim Crow,

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<v Speaker 1>they got rid of all that. But guess what we're

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<v Speaker 1>choosing as a people to not recycle the black dollar

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<v Speaker 1>within our own community. So we have a lot of problems,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that are coming up and arison because of

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<v Speaker 1>the lot of unity. And really, look, I'll watch these

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<v Speaker 1>old movies and I read some of these books. When

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<v Speaker 1>you become an owner of business owner, you become a

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<v Speaker 1>problem solving all right. America in order to grow it

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<v Speaker 1>had to solve his problems, all right. Imagine living in

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<v Speaker 1>the wild, wild West, all right. People came from all

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<v Speaker 1>over America and hit it West to get a plot

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<v Speaker 1>of and freedom.

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<v Speaker 2>They knew that there was no loss, it was lawless.

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<v Speaker 1>They knew there was war with the Indians, they knew

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<v Speaker 1>that it was all these unlawful.

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<v Speaker 2>Murders taking place.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet they still came and sacrifice to come and build

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<v Speaker 1>the West, all right. So they didn't have DEI, they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have social reform, they didn't have nothing. They had

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<v Speaker 1>unity and a belief and the idea. All I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>is sometimes you just you know, they had they got land,

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<v Speaker 1>and they believed in unity, all right, and they solved

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<v Speaker 1>the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen.

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<v Speaker 1>If unite the black dollar induced for self, we can

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<v Speaker 1>have more of what it's in America Americans for sale,

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<v Speaker 1>and we need to buy them like everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Else, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you need unity, we have to work together.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's not taking nothing away from other people. It's

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<v Speaker 1>yet because other cultures of the racists, that's what they do.

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<v Speaker 1>They support their own and they also read the wealth

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<v Speaker 1>to other people. But they start at home. Charity starts

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<v Speaker 1>at home. Black history is American history. We don't need

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<v Speaker 1>social programs to be successful.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the trick, all right. Listen. I'm not against it,

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<v Speaker 2>but you can't tell me if we don't have.

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<v Speaker 1>It, that you're not gonna be educated, you're not gonna win,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're not gonna be successful.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right. It's nice to have it.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, but the reality that you might not have

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<v Speaker 1>it and it might go away and then what you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna not be resilient.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna you're not gonna keep continue the path, you know, charge.

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<v Speaker 2>Forward, make changes may make you got to win, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>The bottom line is you got to win.

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<v Speaker 1>I use books to help my community to win, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything you want to find, you can find a book.

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<v Speaker 1>Nips Unso didn't have an education, but he was a

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<v Speaker 1>mellion there, right. Nipsey Hustle didn't graduate from high school

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<v Speaker 1>or college, but yet he was a million there, right, So.

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<v Speaker 2>It DEI wasn't social programs.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, you can win without this if listen, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>force a people to change that don't want to be changed,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. But the reality is that we have to

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<v Speaker 1>believe in ourselves that we can still win regardless of

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<v Speaker 1>these social programs, because they keep playing.

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<v Speaker 2>They dangle it, then they take it away. They dangle

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<v Speaker 2>it and then take it away, and then we.

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<v Speaker 1>Start matching them down the street, wanting and shouting and pouting.

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<v Speaker 2>Because they take it away. That's what they always do.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the history of murder. I'm just telling you the history.

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<v Speaker 2>I live through it.

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<v Speaker 1>Affirmative fact, give it, take it away, multiculturalism, give it,

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<v Speaker 1>they take it away. Di they give it, they take it.

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<v Speaker 2>Away, same thing. But it don't change the fact.

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<v Speaker 1>Black history is American history, and Black people we don't

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<v Speaker 1>need no one, no permission to celebrate our culture, our history,

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<v Speaker 1>and our achievements in this country. We're gonna celebrate whether

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<v Speaker 1>we got DEI, whether we got affirmed or that, whether

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<v Speaker 1>we got multiculturalism, we're gonna celebrate it. And if people

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<v Speaker 1>don't think you visible leaks books lead books dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to see greatest yr world's great men

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<v Speaker 1>of color, I forgots give to America.

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<v Speaker 2>J A. Rock. He didn't live to see how powerful

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<v Speaker 2>his books have become. But let me tell you something.

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<v Speaker 2>Black people is part of America and we not going nowhere.

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<v Speaker 2>We're part of why this.

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<v Speaker 1>Nation is great, and we not going nowhere because Black

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<v Speaker 1>history is American history and we're gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Celebrate it from the top to the bottom.

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<v Speaker 1>And Wenna, we don't need nobody's permission to celebrate what

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<v Speaker 1>is true and what is great about this nation. Yet

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<v Speaker 1>we're not trying to dwell in the past. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, Yes, we got to go forward. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>been a lot of changes that have happened for the good, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And people have stood up, they have marched, they have protested,

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<v Speaker 1>or what have you.

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<v Speaker 2>And there have been a lot of changes in this conation.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we can.

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<v Speaker 1>Go to any college as long as you got to

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<v Speaker 1>do you know, the.

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<v Speaker 2>SAT scores and the grades.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you can go to pretty much any Harvard, Yale,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever whatever school.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to USC. But all I'm telling you is,

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<v Speaker 2>regardless of these program.

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<v Speaker 1>D I, it ain't gonna change the fact that Black

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<v Speaker 1>history is American history, and we're part of the success

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<v Speaker 1>of this nation. And we're not going nowhere, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna keep forging ford to make this country as best

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<v Speaker 1>as it can can possibly. It got a lot of problems, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it also got a lot of things that we

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<v Speaker 1>can be proud about.

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<v Speaker 2>And so we're gonna move forward. We're gonna march forward.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not gonna sit here and keep trying to

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<v Speaker 1>bag of people to do for us. Well, we must

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<v Speaker 1>do for ourselves, all right. No one can make the

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<v Speaker 1>change but us. No amount of money is gonna change

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that we got to unite and do for

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<v Speaker 1>self or we're gonna suffer the consequences so hey, that's mine.

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<v Speaker 1>First episode, Season three, Malik's Bookshelf, bringing a world together

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<v Speaker 1>with books, culture and community peace.

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<v Speaker 2>Hope you enjoyed this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Black History is American History. Look April twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>The new book Pros to the People, the author Katie Midcher.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting right here at the ABA convention out here

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<v Speaker 1>in Denver, Conlorado. Before I leave, I got to get

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<v Speaker 1>some information about this wonderful book. We are featured in it,

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<v Speaker 1>Elik Books. Like I said, it was a story that

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<v Speaker 1>never been told. Now people are writing, and she wrote

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<v Speaker 1>on Prose to the people, Katie, how you doing.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing really good. Thanks for hanging out with me

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<v Speaker 3>here in Denver. Good to see y'all again.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, yeah, Now break it down.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us why what motivated you to write this story

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<v Speaker 1>about black bookstores, your black bookstore owner as well.

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<v Speaker 4>So tell us about the book, why you wrote the.

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<v Speaker 1>Book, and what readers can take away from the book.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So I knew that this history was so important, getting

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<v Speaker 3>to know all the black bookstores around the United States.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, people need to know this history. And it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't compiled in one volume like you said, It was

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<v Speaker 3>all in a news article here, you know, somebody's basement there.

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<v Speaker 3>But I wanted it to be our history, to be

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<v Speaker 3>more accessible. So in the book you can expect to

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<v Speaker 3>find profiles of all sorts of different bookstores from the

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<v Speaker 3>past and the present. I'm going back all the way

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<v Speaker 3>to the eighteen thirties, which a lot of people don't

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<v Speaker 3>think there would be black bookstores in the eighteen thirties

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<v Speaker 3>because slavery was going on, but there was a black

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<v Speaker 3>book store then all the way to the twenty twenties,

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<v Speaker 3>all around the country, all different types of bookstores. Because

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we all are not a monolith as they

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<v Speaker 3>like to put us as. So everybody's politics is different,

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<v Speaker 3>their interest, their inventory and getting those stories. But then

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<v Speaker 3>also seeing how connected we are in that same vein.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm super excited. You know Eliite Books with the jingle,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we pop in with that and everything. So

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<v Speaker 3>super excited.

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<v Speaker 4>Who we excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, this is a photographic got information about different bookstore,

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<v Speaker 1>black bookstores, but it's lots of pictures, lots of history

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<v Speaker 1>is in this book. Did you get any of the

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<v Speaker 1>photos back from eighteen thirties?

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<v Speaker 3>You say, we do have some old photos in there.

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<v Speaker 3>I went to the archives and really dug to get

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<v Speaker 3>that information and was so lucky and blessed to get

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<v Speaker 3>a four by and Miss Nikki Giovanni before she passed

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<v Speaker 3>last year, So you'll see that in there, and also

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<v Speaker 3>pictures of her at the Black bookstores, because everybody I

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<v Speaker 3>talked to had a Nikki Giovanni story, so I wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure she had the first word in that book.

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<v Speaker 4>Wonderful. I mean, that's an excellent author.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a wonderful, award winning writer, and she is definite

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<v Speaker 1>impacted future generations of writers and thinkers.

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<v Speaker 4>And so we excited about pros to the people.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, listen, you know gonna go hard on this book.

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<v Speaker 1>We in it, and I'm very thankful that the years

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<v Speaker 1>of work since nineteen ninety we've been doing in Los

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<v Speaker 1>Angeles found.

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<v Speaker 4>This way in a book because we all collectedly.

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<v Speaker 1>I always call it the Black Book Revolution, the impact

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<v Speaker 1>that we made nationwide throughout this country. It's a story

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<v Speaker 1>and ain't been told, but now it's being told in

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<v Speaker 1>Katie Mitchell.

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<v Speaker 4>Book is the first off the print.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you want readers to take away when they

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<v Speaker 1>read this wonderful, colorful, picture oriented illustrations out there.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, just incredible and all information in the book.

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<v Speaker 3>I want them to take away that we've been here before.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot going on now, and I think a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of times people get discouraged, but when you read

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<v Speaker 3>the book, you'll see how our ancestors and our elders

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<v Speaker 3>navigated it and know that you know, we got this,

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<v Speaker 3>we got each other, and we will survive this, and

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to keep going and we're going to keep

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<v Speaker 3>making black history and specifically black bookstore history.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we are resilient. Thank you, Katie.

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<v Speaker 1>Any takeaways, anything extra than we talk about you want

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<v Speaker 1>to add, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to say I'm so appreciative to all

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<v Speaker 3>the black bookstores that spoke with me. I was telling

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<v Speaker 3>your beautiful wife, Miss April, that I feel the weight

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<v Speaker 3>of all these stories and I don't take for granted

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<v Speaker 3>that people trusted me with telling them and getting them

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<v Speaker 3>out here. So I'm just excited for everyone to see

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<v Speaker 3>it and fall in love with the black bookstores like

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<v Speaker 3>I have, Katie.

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<v Speaker 1>Real quick, before we conclude this conversation, tell them where

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<v Speaker 1>they can find you. I know where they can find

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<v Speaker 1>this book at Malik Books and all bookstores nationwide yes.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want more information about me or the book,

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<v Speaker 3>you can go to a pros toothpeople dot com. And

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<v Speaker 3>if you would like to follow me on Instagram, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>at good booksatl dot com. So looking forward to connecting

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<v Speaker 3>with y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us the title of your bookstore in Atlanta and

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<v Speaker 1>how they can reach you there.

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<v Speaker 3>The title of my bookstore is good Books. We're in

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<v Speaker 3>Atlanta and we're at good Books atl dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Think I know my audience on Malise's bookshelf bringing a

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<v Speaker 1>world together with books, culture and community. It's gonna love

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<v Speaker 1>this book. It's gonna love this talk that we just had.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you, thank you, thank you. Thanks for listening

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