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Speaker 1: Night Monday Morning Podcast. John Middlecoff, former NFL Scout three

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Speaker 1: I just love John's takes today. Plus we do some

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams USC and the mess with the Trojans in

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Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley. But you know, my first takeaway on Philadelphia's

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Speaker 1: But this team's not built for November, December, January football.

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Speaker 1: And that's why the Kansas City Chiefs are the current dynasty.

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Speaker 1: It is. Baseball has never understood this. Networks have helped

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Speaker 1: It's why the NFL got rid of the no catch rule.

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Speaker 1: built for it. Well, that's just the coach identifying the

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Speaker 1: talent of his players, innovative ingenuity. Don't we want to

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Speaker 1: reward that in all businesses? It's not like the Eagles

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Speaker 1: and I think what they are is a power football team.

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Speaker 1: Miami is a speed football team. Both can win a

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Speaker 1: over and the better team won. But I don't love

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Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett, but I do think he plays with confidence

426
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Speaker 1: that Jordan Love doesn't, that Russell Wilson no longer does.

427
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Speaker 1: And Pickett made two or three big throws downfield, and again,

428
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Speaker 1: don't love him. I had a GM who we both

429
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Speaker 1: know and respect. I'm not going to give it up.

430
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Speaker 1: He's an AFCGM on the East Coast, and he told

431
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Speaker 1: me he viewed him as a top of the third round.

432
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Speaker 1: And this is a good GM, a top of the

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Speaker 1: third round pick. Pittsburgh takes the guy they needed a quarterback.

434
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Speaker 1: I don't think there's a ton of special but he

435
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Speaker 1: made big throws and he you know, Pittsburgh's one of

436
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Speaker 1: the more infinite physical teams in the league, and I

437
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 1: think part of that. To be a Steeler quarterback, you

438
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Speaker 1: have to play with ego, Like it doesn't matter Bradshaw,

439
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: big bet, you have to. You know, Mike Tomlin's teams

440
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: are all big chest, big emotion, big swagger. They look

441
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Speaker 1: great off the bus. And I think Kenny plays with

442
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Speaker 1: enough of that. It may be false confidence, but it's confidence.

443
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Speaker 1: And I watched him today and I'm like, I don't

444
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Speaker 1: love him, but he has some self belief. And I

445
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: think when you're a b Ish B minus guy, if

446
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Speaker 1: that gets you to a B or a C plus,

447
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:34,719
Speaker 1: it gets you to a B minus you And I

448
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:39,199
Speaker 1: know this confidence matters, and I think Kenny Pickett. I

449
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,479
Speaker 1: watched Jordan Love and I see a staff terrified of

450
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Speaker 1: throwing the ball down the field. Yeah, Pittsburgh, Canada.

451
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 2: He's dialing it up.

452
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Speaker 1: He's asking him to make big froze and he made

453
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Speaker 1: a couple.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen some of these viral videos, Colin,

455
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 2: but the Matt Canada hate from Steeler fans around the

456
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 2: country has been growing and growing. Today was a good day.

457
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Speaker 2: I listened as a fellow bald brother. I was rooting

458
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Speaker 2: for him. The one thing. Listen, Historically, the mac Jones,

459
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 2: Kenny Picketts, those talents are third fourth round picks. But

460
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Speaker 2: we're in the time of quarterback inflation, where desperation meets

461
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Speaker 2: the power of a rookie contract. There are a lot

462
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Speaker 2: of combinations leading to that quarterback inflation. But one guy

463
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Speaker 2: went fifteenth, the other win twentieth. Listen, I'm not a

464
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Speaker 2: mac Jones guy. I'm not even a Kenny Pickett guy.

465
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Speaker 2: But you got us surround those guys with high end talent.

466
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Speaker 2: Mac Jones obviously had a couple moments today, but for

467
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Speaker 2: the most part is going to be very limited when

468
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 2: he's playing with average players. The Steelers draft, develop and

469
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 2: find skill guys like no team in the league. Pickens look,

470
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Speaker 2: i mean, let's face it, like a top seven eight

471
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Speaker 2: wide receiver in the league today. Physically he definitely is.

472
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Speaker 2: And he's making back shoulder plays plays down the scene,

473
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Speaker 2: breaking tackles, and you get Johnson backed their explosion on

474
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Speaker 2: the outside on Warren, the little running back. He had

475
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Speaker 2: a speed element. So yeah, you just saw Pickens. Like

476
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Speaker 2: you said, confidence is a real thing. He's a mobile quarterback,

477
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Speaker 2: not a great athlete, but He's not a bad athlete

478
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Speaker 2: by any means. Can move the ball, and like you said,

479
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Speaker 2: he's once he got in a rhythm. You saw Jones

480
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 2: when he had success early on his career. Same thing,

481
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 2: kind of that. Kirk Cousin's mold of rhythm matters a lot.

482
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Speaker 2: They can't just at any moment go Josh Allen or

483
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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert and pull some play into their ass. They

484
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Speaker 2: don't have those physical capabilities.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I thought, I mean Nause Harris Warren are

486
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: that's a really nice combo. Probably both BB plus but

487
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: good solid backs tight end. I like Deontay Johnson pick.

488
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Speaker 1: It is tremendous. I don't think you know, I think

489
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Speaker 1: the Canada thing is, I don't think he's one of

490
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Speaker 1: the more creative thinkers. Believe he's not. But you know,

491
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: when you watch that game, if you wouldn't have known

492
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: anything about football, it's a classic example of a rebuilding

493
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: roster with some really nice players Pooka Nakua, Cooper Cup,

494
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, Matt Stafford, haven Steinwright tackle some really and

495
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: a really full blown super Bowl capable roster. And it

496
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 1: looks really even until about late third and you're like,

497
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 1: all right, Pittsburgh's just got way more guys.

498
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Speaker 2: And one thing the Rams can't match is, you know, Donald,

499
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 2: one of the great players of all time, kind of

500
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Speaker 2: on an island. Now, you know, Aalen Ramsey's long gone.

501
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 2: Some of their stud safeties just have passed. They've had

502
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 2: to let go. Obviously, their linebacking corps pretty unknown. He

503
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 2: doesn't have many high end friends on the defensive line anymore,

504
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 2: a lot of young guys. Where you look at the

505
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 2: other side of the ball. You got TJ. Watt, who's

506
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: like Donald, an elite Hall of Fame level guy. They

507
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 2: have other sweet pass rushers in Highsmith Minu Fitzpatrick's one

508
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 2: of the more verstable players in the NFL. Joey Porter's

509
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 2: son looks like a future star. So they they got

510
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: classic receivers coming on, are healthy, and their core, their ethos,

511
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball, the team speed, the

512
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 2: physicality the Seers have. I mean, the Steelers were able

513
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 2: to just kind of keep their head above water, and

514
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 2: now if they can just gain a little momentum on offense,

515
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: you know that they should listen. I liked him, probably

516
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,239
Speaker 2: a little too much, but at the end of the day,

517
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 2: they're probably an eleven win team, maybe not a fourteen

518
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: win team like I thought, but they're definitely better than

519
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 2: that eight to nine field that they definitely had for

520
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 2: what about two and a half weeks. He's like, got

521
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 2: the Steelers are in trouble and they've they just to me,

522
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 2: that's an organization so far this year that it's just

523
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 2: kind of found a way and now they feel like

524
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: they got a little momentum moving forward.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Pete Carroll did that today. Ugly win win. Yeah,

526
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Speaker 1: Pete just sort of just teaches up, coaches up, and

527
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: they play like crap for long stretches and you look

528
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: up and the Steelers didn't play well, the Seahawks didn't,

529
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Speaker 1: but veteran Hall of Fame level coaches, they just find

530
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Speaker 1: ways to win ugly games.

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Speaker 2: I do think one thing that was on full display

532
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 2: today was divisional games. Regardless of the record, even if

533
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 2: you've got new coaches, players know each other, so scouting

534
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 2: reports on guys, you've played a guy for three or

535
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 2: four years, the strengths and the weaknesses, things they like

536
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 2: to do. You have an understanding of their schemes, of

537
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 2: the things that they do. And you see it from

538
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 2: the Belichick beating the Bills. Think about Belichick. He has

539
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 2: on every single player of the Bills, especially their high

540
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 2: end ones. Think of the knowledge he has from a

541
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: scouting report standpoint and that he can give to their players.

542
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: Think even Arizona today, like their players knowledge, the guys

543
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 2: that have been there for a couple of years, understanding

544
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 2: of DK Metcalf, Tyler Lockett, Jamal Adams weakness. So to me,

545
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: Giants against Washington, these players, it's why you kind of

546
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 2: sometimes have to throw the record out regardless of playoff team,

547
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 2: you know, top seven drafting team when they're division matchups,

548
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 2: even when the coaching staffs has turned over, because the

549
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 2: players comfort level, even going into that stadium, you know

550
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 2: the locker room, you know where to come out. Sometimes

551
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 2: the random games, right, you never know what you're going

552
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 2: to get, like the Bears beating the crap out of

553
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 2: the Raiders. But Bill's Patriots, like Belchik knows what Josh

554
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 2: Allen does and what he doesn't do.

555
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: Well. Yeah, I want to talk about the early game

556
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: of the day, and it was my kind of favorite pick.

557
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: I really liked the Ravens at home against Detroit. Now

558
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: Detroit's not the Detroit of the last three years where

559
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: golf last two years, where golf can only win at home,

560
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: only on the dome, only a certain way. It's a

561
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: different team. It's a great old line. They can run.

562
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: I thought it was a bit of a snake pit.

563
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: I did not like this matchup for Detroit. Baltimore's a

564
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: tough place to play, And I said, I think I

565
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: told you this last week. I thought Baltimore's first half

566
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: in London against Tennessee was the best half of football

567
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: I've seen any team play in the league. I think

568
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: Lamar right now is playing easily the best football. And

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Speaker 1: for all the things the Ravens do well, they haven't

570
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Speaker 1: in the last six seven years been a great wide

571
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Speaker 1: receiver organization, the opposite of the Steelers. But say Flowers Odell,

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Speaker 1: I think Lamar is healthy, He's got a contract. He

573
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: feels buoyed by that. I mean, I think he's playing

574
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Speaker 1: with a ton of confidence. He's very happy now. That's

575
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: not hanging over him. A guy that runs a lot

576
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Speaker 1: and gets hurt, is he gonna get paid? He's paid,

577
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Speaker 1: He's happy. I don't think less of Detroit today. I

578
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: think San Francisco and the Ravens today, and then Kansas

579
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Speaker 1: City after what I saw. But I'm tempering it because

580
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Speaker 1: it was the Chargers defense. I think Baltimore is a

581
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Speaker 1: great football team right now. I don't think Harriball's a

582
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Speaker 1: special teams guy. The defense top five, the offense top five,

583
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Speaker 1: and Lamar. You know, contracts do different things to different people.

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Speaker 1: I think Lamar it's really helped him because there was

585
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Speaker 1: that Now he can play full speed. Now he played. Listen, man,

586
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Speaker 1: if you run around, you've been banged up, and you're

587
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Speaker 1: staring at three hundred million dollars, and I'd be like,

588
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Speaker 1: you know, if I was stared at three hundred million.

589
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 2: Dollars at twenty six years old, right, you'd be like,

590
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 2: I'm a run out of bounds on this one.

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Speaker 1: He's playing with like, hey, I got my money, I'm

592
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: just gonna go win games. I think Lamar right now,

593
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Speaker 1: I'm not serious. There are a lot of sundays he's

594
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: the second best player in the league to Mahomes. I

595
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: think he is so good right now.

596
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 2: Well, two things. Knowing some people there, I know last

597
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 2: year when it got weird, they never thought it was

598
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: that weird because they really trusted the guy that They've

599
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: all the people that have been around him the whole time,

600
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: his character, everything that he stood for. They understood that

601
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: the contract situation was kind of its own little thing

602
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 2: and it was throwing him off. But they always win football,

603
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: like football came first for Lamar obviously this year, think

604
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 2: about that Division two contracts Deshaun wat that thing's been weird, NonStop.

605
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 2: Shoulder injury today, injury, it just feels. And their team

606
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 2: talent wise is every bit as good as these top teams,

607
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 2: but the Deshaun Watson situation is all just out of whack.

608
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: When you look at the Ravens today, they showed up

609
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 2: like Mike Tyson in his prime. That thing was over

610
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 2: in the first quarter. It was a knockout blow to me.

611
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 2: If I was doing a little Herd hierarchy AFC, I

612
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 2: would still have the Chiefs won. They've earned it, like

613
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Speaker 2: they're just the resume of all those guys and their coach.

614
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: I would have the Ravens two in the AFC. Though, Yeah,

615
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 2: the way they're playing, and like we talked about earlier,

616
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Speaker 2: if somehow, if I'm the Ravens like getting those home games,

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Speaker 2: I do not want to go to Kansas City. Obviously

618
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: they have one less loss than you right now. But

619
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Speaker 2: you know, Kansas City's probably a fourteen and three team.

620
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Speaker 2: You got to keep stacking these wins because I do

621
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 2: think the home field advantage for a team that and

622
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Speaker 2: let's face it, the other elephant in the room is

623
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Speaker 2: Lamar hasn't had that much really hasn't had any postseason success.

624
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Speaker 2: So that's an element too. Going to Kansas City, I

625
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 2: gotta do everything humanly posible to try to get that

626
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: one seat. Because I'm with you, Lamar is he the

627
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: MVP right now? I mean, bask the end of October.

628
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Speaker 1: I think he is, and I think again he's playing.

629
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Speaker 1: He's playing with great confidence. Money can ruin players. It's

630
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: made him a better player.

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00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

632
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Speaker 1: And by the way, this team, this receiving group, they're

633
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: only going to get better. They've only played six games together, right,

634
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: Like like Odell's knew, uh, you know last year, Lamar's

635
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: not healthy. Now they got the rookie wide receiver. It's like, oh,

636
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: they're good now. We also said this, that's the fastest

637
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: team in the league right now.

638
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 2: He doesn't get enough credit. Mahomes didn't save Kansas City,

639
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 2: he just elevated them. Right. The Ravens were dead before

640
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 2: Lamar John Harbaugh's career was heading in the wrong direction

641
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 2: in Baltimore. I'm not he would have got a job

642
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: somewhere else. But the Flacco situation that the team was

643
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 2: just kind of it just felt like it had run

644
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 2: his course. They had lacked juice, and he came and

645
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 2: he's not just resurrected that franchise, turned them into perennial power.

646
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: And it does feel like you said, adding is eight flowers.

647
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 2: Mark Andrews playing really well. The scheme with Todd Munkin

648
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: Like I was nervous that they were gonna try to

649
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 2: get away from what they do well, right, but they've

650
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: kind of integrated a more explosive passing offense. Yet he's

651
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 2: still very active as a mover. I wouldn't call him

652
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 2: running like he did in twenty nineteen tenty twenty, but

653
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 2: his his activity level as an athlete is still there.

654
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 2: And it throws you. He had a touchdown today I

655
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: think to go up twenty when nothing kind of scrambled around.

656
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 2: It was just I don't know who else had that

657
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 2: in the bag in the NFL.

658
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: Well, it's almost like Jamie Fowxx was so naturally funny

659
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: you forgot how good of an actor he was right like,

660
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: you're like he can sing too, Yeah, but he was

661
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: so naturally funny and good looking and funny that you

662
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: forget like you ever watched his movies. Lamar was so

663
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 1: gifted running. I don't think we've ever given him credit.

664
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: Shit in the pocket. But for the record, he's the

665
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: other guy in the league. Side arms it running left,

666
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: can throw it, couldn't go the deep ball, can run right.

667
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: Like a lot of guys when they move Mahomes and Lamar,

668
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: when they move, their accuracy doesn't depth, which is hard.

669
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: Right you think about it, Think about you're moving, You're

670
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: going up and down jar Lamar moving his feet are good.

671
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: I just when I watched that game today, it's one

672
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: of those Detroit's better than that. If they played in

673
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: Detroit it would be better. But Detroit looked a little plodding.

674
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 1: Baltimore looked like a track team.

675
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 2: Just was so fast. I think the one red flag

676
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 2: big picture is gonna be on Detroit because I'm with you,

677
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 2: like this is gonna be a throwaway game. They'll be

678
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 2: eleven and six and win that division easily. It's they'll

679
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 2: probably win their first round game, depending on who they

680
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: play some crappy wild card team, maybe a Seattle or

681
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: the Rams. They could lose that game, but they're gonna

682
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 2: get a home and the place will be rocking. But

683
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 2: the second game will they'll have to go on the

684
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: road to San Francisco or to the Eagles, and Jared

685
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 2: Goffs just not built to play outside and just an

686
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: environment like that.

687
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 1: Not in January.

688
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 2: We both like him. He's he's earned a lot of

689
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 2: respect since the trade. It's been remarkable, but there are limitations.

690
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 2: He's kind of got the Cousins thing for him. When

691
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 2: things are right, he can look really good. He can

692
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 2: lead you to twelve wins, you can throw a lot

693
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 2: of touchdowns, But do you really trust him when twenty

694
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 2: five million people are watching and you're playing the two

695
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 2: seed on the road. Probably not?

696
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: All right, let's do ten minutes on USC football. Okay,

697
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: so you know Alabama close one, Washington close one, Oklahoma

698
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 1: close one, USC close lost once again the defense couldn't

699
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: make a stop. So I think the defensive side, I

700
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: think you can shore up a lot of what they

701
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 1: do with a new defensive coordinator, with Alex Grinch losing,

702
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: you know, moving on, I do think Bear Alexander will

703
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: play in the pros. I think they have a linebacker

704
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: who's a probe. I think they've got a safety that's

705
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: a pro. They don't have Michigan talent. They don't have

706
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,959
Speaker 1: Bama Georgia talent. But if you went to like team

707
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: six to team sixteen in the college football world, their

708
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: talents somewhat comparable. I mean, Washington doesn't have great talent.

709
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: They have a good edge rusher. Here's something, let me

710
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: throw at you. What's really regressed has been their offensive line,

711
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: and you're like, they got a couple of NFL guys there.

712
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 1: They absolutely upgraded with transfers. They actually have some depth

713
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: on the interior due to recruiting. What's happened as I

714
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: watched them, I think Caleb is just ad libbing a

715
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: lot more than he was last year. Between the confidence,

716
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: the Heisman, the power, the nil money, he's sort of

717
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: doing his own thing. And it's a little Josh Allen

718
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: that when you're we always say the Bill's O line

719
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 1: is terrible, it's not. They've got a pro bowler, but

720
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: Josh at times, he's a little more this year. I

721
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: think he's a little more defined or refined. But when

722
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: Josh is out there running.

723
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 2: It's hard.

724
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 1: As an offensive lineman, you're kind of at the whim

725
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: of what Josh Allen wanted to do. And when I

726
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 1: watch you, because their O line looks terrible, but it's

727
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: not terrible. Their personnel's not terrible. I wonder if Caleb

728
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: now is sort of like, hey, I'm out of the

729
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: natty picture, I got my nil money. I'm gonna do

730
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: what I want to do. You think that could be possible.

731
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 2: Do you remember when the division and really some of

732
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: the animosity started in Seattle. You know, probably around seventeen eighteen,

733
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: everyone started shitting on their offensive line and saying Russell

734
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 2: Wilson was running for his life, and a lot of

735
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: former offensive linemen said, well, he's taken off early and

736
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 2: he would make hero ball plays now he would make them.

737
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 2: So it kind of bandiated, well look at what he did,

738
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 2: but the result was you should have just stayed in

739
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 2: the pocket, and clearly the coaching staff now everyone just

740
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 2: kind of started button heads. I think Caleb's talent is extraordinary.

741
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: His arm strength, his athleticism, his ability to throw moving

742
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: left or right, especially across his body. My home style

743
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 2: he had to throw last night across his body to

744
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 2: the left side. That was only five guys on this

745
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 2: planet can do that. But he definitely has this hero

746
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 2: ball syndrome, which might not be all his fault that

747
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 2: the program is in somewhat disarray, I do think, and

748
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 2: I get this a lot because they're like, oh, your boy,

749
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 2: he's hyping Caleb up again. And listen, I'm guilty of

750
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 2: this too. We kind of annoyed players as generational talents

751
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 2: are all. He has generational capabilities from an arm standpoint,

752
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 2: but as a prospect, like if you go Luck or

753
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,959
Speaker 2: l Way or Manning, he's short relative to those guys,

754
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 2: Like the great prospects have all been six four to

755
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 2: six y five, right, and he's I talked to a

756
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: guy who's been around them, thinks he's a shade under

757
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 2: six foot one. But he's built like a tank. Yeah,

758
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 2: and he knows that he's very thick and powerful. I

759
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 2: do think the all time great prospects stuff. He's a

760
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 2: really good prospect who is gonna go ninety five percent

761
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,280
Speaker 2: number one overall and worst case scenario, go number two overall.

762
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: But I think we see some plaus I mean, we

763
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 2: see some of the numbers now against better teams, Notre

764
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 2: Dame and especially Utah, high end defensive players, well coached guys.

765
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 2: They're going to be playing on Sunday. And he doesn't

766
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,720
Speaker 2: look like he did against Arizona in some of these games.

767
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 2: Now I listen the program, I think banning the reporter,

768
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 2: not allowing NFL scouts in there for a month and

769
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 2: a half, not having the players talk, like to me,

770
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 2: some of their priorities. It's like, is Nick Saban obsessed

771
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 2: with that bullshit? Of course, not like what is Lincoln.

772
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 2: I don't I think some of their priorities, and I

773
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: think sometimes I remember when the forty nine ers drafted

774
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 2: Hufunga and Drake Jackson and they said, obviously the sc

775
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: was in shambles. Then with Clay Hilton and they said,

776
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 2: you know, Drake Jackson got a bad rap, but so

777
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 2: do most players when coaches are getting fired and things

778
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 2: are in disarray. Whufungo was the rare guy that even

779
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 2: people that are getting fired, getting tarnished coaches, they all

780
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 2: had good things to say about him. And that's a

781
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 2: very very small percentage of humans that are able to

782
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 2: kind of rise above it. And I don't know, Caleb,

783
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 2: I've never heard bad things. But it does feel like

784
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 2: he's kind of in the middle right now of the weirdness.

785
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 2: And I got to start with the blameing peigu one

786
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty million dollars. It does start with the

787
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 2: head coach, and it feels like he's lost control a

788
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 2: little bit of just some of the basic details of

789
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 2: a high end program.

790
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. So Pete Carroll was perfect, and I didn't know

791
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: it at the time, but it was obvious after about

792
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 1: four or five years he'd been in the NFL. So

793
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: he didn't care about people on campus. He didn't care

794
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: about media. Pete treated at USC he was like scouts, gms,

795
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: get in here, media.

796
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: Snoop, doors wide open, everybody.

797
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: Why these college coaches, people I like urban Meyer get

798
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: very provincial, very Gainesville, very Tuscaloosa, small, timid media that

799
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 1: has one game to cover in town. It's like Lincoln,

800
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: We're We're not Norman, Oklahoma. There's two NFL teams, the

801
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: Dodgers draw five million, two NBA teams, LAFC, the Galaxy, UCLA.

802
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,919
Speaker 1: It's like, we just we just don't need if us.

803
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: He goes on a two game losing streak, LA doesn't

804
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: go and so I think Lincoln's finding out and I

805
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: think college coaches have found this out. Here is that

806
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: Pete was perfect. Pete's a big city, big thinker. He'd

807
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: had Boston media, New York media. Pete knew you know

808
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: you couldn't. Pete just was used to the win, the

809
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,919
Speaker 1: heat you get. Boston media is as cranky as any

810
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: and so when Pete got to La, like he was

811
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: take shots at me, I don't care. I think Lincoln

812
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: sometimes feels a little like those small college town guys

813
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: that want to control everything, and that's not La. We

814
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: got options here.

815
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 2: The other thing is Pete, having been an assistant coach

816
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 2: for the great forty nine er teams, been with the

817
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 2: Jets and then took over Bill Parcells squad. He understood

818
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 2: what elite players looked like at every position, Like he

819
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: valued Reggie Bush just like he did Brian Cushing, or

820
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 2: a great defensive lineman or a great offensive lineman. They

821
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 2: were good at every position because he emphasized it right.

822
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 2: Look at Saban, how he's adapted. And that's my one

823
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 2: question with Lincoln. I know he's gonna be able to

824
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 2: find quarterbacks and wide receivers and running backs. Does he

825
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: truly understand how to find Ray mal Luga a linebacker

826
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 2: or an elite You know, Minka Fitzpatrick at safety because

827
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 2: he's never been around it at Oklahoma and his mentor

828
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 2: in college football, and I think you are who your

829
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 2: mentors are when you're young. As a football coach, it

830
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: kind of shapes your offensive philosophy. Like if you watch

831
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 2: Kellen Moore, he kind of likes tricky shit. Well he

832
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 2: comes from Chris Peterson who loved that stuff, and it

833
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 2: gets ingrained in you as a coach. It doesn't mean

834
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 2: you can't adapt. But Andy Reid played at BYU in

835
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 2: the early eighties when they were the only college team

836
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 2: throwing it forever. He's been throwing it for thirty plus years.

837
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 2: And you watch Lincoln offense, offense, offense, offense, and when

838
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 2: that goes the defense, and you know better than me,

839
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 2: he clearly really likes the defensive coordinator as a friend.

840
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: Now they're presses like who's forcing him to fire? You know,

841
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 2: I know from a football standpoint, he should, But are

842
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: we one hundred percent sure like he's gonna do that?

843
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 2: Because I think he needs help in the personnel department

844
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 2: on what to look for, and because I would go

845
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 2: if I was him, I would go to like, you know,

846
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 2: Bama Georgia, a program like that and hire their GM.

847
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: What do you need, what's your salary? Five hundred grand? There,

848
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Speaker 2: We'll give you a nine hundred grand to come here

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Speaker 2: and help us build the defense the SEC way because

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Speaker 2: I heard this, Well, there's not as many great defensive

851
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Speaker 2: prospects in LA. Who gets a shit a twenty twenty three?

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Speaker 2: Go buy the best guys in the South or Texas, right,

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Speaker 2: he has no pete used to do that well before NIL,

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Speaker 2: their players were coming from Oh, Jersey, here, Pa, here,

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Speaker 2: Louisiana here, that there is no excuse to USC. I

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Speaker 2: honestly and listen to Utah. What Kyle Whittingham has done

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Speaker 2: is freaking awesome. But you know those people at USC

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Speaker 2: do not view Utah's equals. Last night was one thing

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Speaker 2: last year. Okay, we get them at home this year.

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Speaker 2: To lose like that, that is that's worse than Notre

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Speaker 2: Dame lost.

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Speaker 1: Hey, well, listen, listen. Utah had a backup quarterback throw

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Speaker 1: for how many yards? Utah was great on third down?

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Speaker 2: Big he's their third string colin because their backup got

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Speaker 2: hurt in a scrimmage in he's their third string quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Well, hey, Arizona's backup quarterback gave USC fits three weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's one more. I watched a lot of

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Speaker 2: the UNC game for what it was, just came at

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Speaker 2: a time during the day. We're not Drake May, and

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Speaker 2: I've been kind of hyping him up. He's a good prospect.

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Speaker 2: I think he's like eighty eighty five percent of kind

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Speaker 2: of Herbert big athletic good. All right, yes, but he's not.

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Speaker 2: And I had a buddy that his assistant GM was like,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm glad we're not in the quarterback kind

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Speaker 2: of realm because I think Caleb Thing's gonna get weird.

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Speaker 2: His dad plays a big role. There's a lot of

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Speaker 2: things that are just gonna be said about just moving forward.

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Speaker 2: And then the Drake May, he's gonna go really high.

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Speaker 2: But he, by no means it's not just some guarantee

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Speaker 2: savior franchise. And that's how it turns out every time.

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Speaker 2: Because you know, I'm sure, like Caleb, are they one

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Speaker 2: more loss away? Like would he play out the string

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Speaker 2: or I just looked at their schedule obviously I think

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Speaker 2: they play Cal this week. But then they go Oregon, Washington, Ucla.

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Speaker 2: They easily could lose all three of those games U

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Speaker 2: S C LA. I didn't realize. I mean their defense,

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Speaker 2: Anthony lin Slens, their defensive coordinator. They're really good on defense.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, USC could lose. I think they will lose

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Speaker 1: to Oregon. He'll be Cal, they'll beat Cal. I think

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Speaker 1: they'll lose to Washington. I think they'll beat Ucla. But

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Speaker 1: this is the Lincoln Riley. It's a bad time for

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Speaker 1: the Pac twelve to be the best it's ever been.

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Speaker 1: It's not a good year for Lincoln to scrub and

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Speaker 1: by the way, bone Oregon Pro quarterback, Washington Pro quarterback,

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Speaker 1: Ucla the five I don't think they've ever had a

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Speaker 1: five star quarterback at a high school. It's the first

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Speaker 1: five star guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And so for the third string quarterback for Utah to

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Speaker 1: just march up and down the field, it's like this

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Speaker 1: is this.

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Speaker 2: He hadn't thrown touchdowns. He was averaging like five yard

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Speaker 2: ards a past attempt the last couple of weeks. He

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Speaker 2: looked like Joe Montana out there moving around last night, making.

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Speaker 1: For both both teams. Yesterday I think averaged six point

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Speaker 1: nine yards of play. That's fine if you have Caleb,

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Speaker 1: a third string quarterback can't average six point nine yards

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Speaker 1: of play, So it is. It is big problems. All right,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go watch Sunday Night football.

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Speaker 2: What a weekend.

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Speaker 1: Good see anybody three and out? John middlecl former NFL scout.

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Speaker 1: So much fun and uh, they're talking to you

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Speaker 2: The volume