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He doesn't get many of those, but 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:28.160 we're glad that he's taking a day off going to 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:31.080 a wedding or whatever he's doing. But we're here and 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:32.679 we're gonna be taking your calls. And by the way, 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:34.720 you need to know who we are because you know 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:38.119 who rape Rudy Giuliani is because he's America's mayor. I'm 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:41.440 just a lawyer. I'm Jay Seculo. I'm just a count lawyer. 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:46.040 The country held by the accent I'm a real lawyer. Uh. 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:48.240 I am J. Seculo, chief council of the American Center 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:50.600 for Lawn Justice and one of the council to the 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:53.840 President and Rudy Giuliani of course, America's mayor, former U. S. 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:59.000 Attorney Department of Justice official, and for purposes of right now, 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:02.960 my colleague and co counsel in a case involving uh 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:06.440 Russia inquiry that we're engaged in. You may have read 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:09.280 something about it. We're also gonna be taking your calls, 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:12.480 and I'm gonna give the number correctly because Linda said, 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:15.720 get the number correctly. One eight nine one seven three 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:19.079 to six or eight hundred nine four one sewn. That's 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:22.680 because I gave the number to my radio broadcast before. 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:24.320 I've done that before on this broadcast, and I'm not 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:27.040 gonna do it again. So anyways, one eight hundred nine 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:29.040 four one seven three to six or eight hundred nine 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:31.480 one sean. You could ask Giuliani or me, either one 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:33.320 of us or both of us at the same time. 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:36.440 Questions of the day. We've got a lot to talk about. Obviously, 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:37.720 a lot of you are gonna want to talk to 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:40.760 us about what is happening with regard to the Russia 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:44.440 probe we are also talking about and this is UH important. 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:47.840 UH that's an important issue also. But UH, Realdy and 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:50.520 I have both been working for over a year trying 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:54.240 to secure the release of an American pastor UH named 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:58.040 Andrew Brunson who's was in jail for nineteen months in Turkey. 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:00.320 He's now at a house arrest. We're close to getting 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:03.480 a resolution in that case. The President, Rudy, you and 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:05.720 I both know it's been working NonStop on this. We've 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:07.760 been and we're working on this for a long time. 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:09.320 But we're getting close. I mean, we're getting there. But 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:12.320 Turkey is taking a real hit financially right now, especially today, 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:15.239 Turkey is taking a real hit financially. Their their economy 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:17.679 is in trouble. It reminds me to some extent of 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:19.960 what's happening in Iran with the sanctions that have been 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:22.720 placed there that just sort of just doubles down on 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:25.600 their economic problems to start with. And I think people 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:29.720 are starting to realize what happens when America imposes sanctions 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:31.680 all of a sudden. Other countries don't want to trade 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:33.920 with you because they need the American banks that rely 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:37.000 on the American banks. America could then impose sanctions on 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:40.280 them for doing it. And I think it's a this 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:43.320 idea that we need all these other countries to agree 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:46.160 with us on sanctions. We drive, we drive the world economy. Well, 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:48.080 I know it Underran on the Iran issue. You've been 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.600 very involved, and of course I had a We had 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:54.480 another American that was held hostage by the Iranians, got 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:57.520 out a couple of years back, uh, and again sanctioned. 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:01.800 The president is imposed UH. Finally, you know, they've been 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:05.480 for a couple of administrations. They've been saying crippling SA sanctions, 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:08.200 but now they actually did it. You know, what kind 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:09.680 of impact do you think is gonna have An Iran 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:13.280 have a tremendous impact without the sanctions, based on just 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:18.359 their own internal economic problems. They've had UH demonstrations and 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:22.440 protests in over a hundred forty two cities starting in January. 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:27.440 They're very very well orchestrated. People have been arrested and killed, 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:31.240 but they still go on. They're getting worse, the economic 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:34.600 problems get worse. There has a chance, I don't want 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:36.160 to overstate it, but there has a chance that this 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:38.640 regime could be in trouble. I think that's right. And 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:41.040 in Turkey right now, with their following economy, I think 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:42.760 they've got to make some tough decisions, and one of 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:45.400 them is not so tough. Let the Americans, not just 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:48.920 this pastor. Let the Americans that you're holding hostage Turkey, 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:52.120 let them go back to the United States. Not that complicated. 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:54.760 I understand this is a lot of political issues, and 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:56.400 that's a lot of it, but it's you're looking like 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:59.919 hostage situations. Having said all of that, there's also some 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.840 news on the domestic front you may have been felt 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:06.359 and that the mayor and I have been involved in, 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:08.400 and that isn't our representation of the president. And of 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:10.800 course you heard that. There was a response that we 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:13.159 put together with our team. We've got a great team 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:17.919 of lawyers involving a request from the Special Counsel to 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:20.800 interview the President of the United States. I'm sure you're 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:23.640 gonna have some calls and comments about that. We have 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:25.800 had some comments about that. To say the least, that 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:27.560 we've been talking about that. We're not going to tell 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:31.000 you what we have said, even though really wanted to 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:35.039 the other day a reporter at me, he did say 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:38.080 that actually that reporter. He said to this particular reporter, 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:40.599 I I wouldn't mind saying something, but Jay would be 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:43.960 really angry if I did. But we will tell you this. Look, 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:46.400 this is a process that you're we're going through right now, 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:48.680 and uh, there's a lot that go in that goes 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:51.159 into it. I think the Constitution is clear that there's 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:54.080 not a right to interview the president under Article two. 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:56.840 I think the Supreme Court would come to that conclusion. 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.240 I think it also reigns as serious issues not just 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:02.640 for this president, but for future presidencies and especially Rudy. 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:05.520 With the nature and scope of the cooperation that this 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:10.040 White House has given to the investigators, it's it's unprecedented, 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:12.479 especially in light of the irregularities. Will go through the 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:16.560 irregularities in a minute, but but this has been unprecedented cooperation. 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:19.800 It has it's been unprecedented cooperation. So the end what 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:24.600 that yields is, under any set of circumstances, the court 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:26.880 is going to require they make a showing for why 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:30.920 they need the information. Well, they already have it. They 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:34.000 already have all the information plus more. They would have 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:38.600 no ability to show uh need for this information. For example, 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:42.400 they have his explanations. He's given them on every television, 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:46.400 on radio, on tweets, on Remember they were arguing one 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:49.800 of the reports was obstruction by tweet. Yeah, I mean 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:53.040 I didn't think about that for a moment. Obstruction by tweet, 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:55.600 I mean, how can okay? So well, I'm gonna give 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:58.559 you a great example from Greg Jared's book. Greg Jared 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:04.080 points out that Barack Obama during the sixteen election pronounced 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:07.720 Hillary Clinton innocent, right, He said, he said, she may 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:12.120 have been careless, but she didn't affect national security. Well, 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:16.120 several weeks later, that's exactly what Comy wrote. She may 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:19.640 have been careless, but she didn't affect national security. So 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:24.040 you could say he obstructed that investigation, except for the 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:27.280 fact that he was doing the same thing that our 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:30.240 president does accept on different set of circumstances. He was 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:32.960 giving his opinion, which is protected by the way by 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:35.280 the Person Amendment to the United States Constitution, protected by 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:38.080 his authorities under Article two of the United States Constitution. 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:40.240 After all, he's the president of the United States, and 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.040 the President of the United States gets to not only 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:44.400 a pine, but to take action. And the idea that 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:47.000 you would question the president about the motives of why 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:52.480 he terminated a A subordinate raises, as I said, really serious, 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:56.400 uh constitutional issues. Having said that, we have been and 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:59.760 continue to maintain a very cooperative attitude. But I will 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:03.040 tell you about that cooperation. We draw lines and uh 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:06.200 we rejected the proposal that came out from the Special Counsel. 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:09.040 In this last round, we came back with another proposal. 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:11.400 We'll see what happens on that. But you can be cooperative, 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:14.280 you could be professional without you don't have to be disagreeable. 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:16.360 But if you look at the scope and nature of 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:19.760 this inquiry, the way it started, the corruption at the outset, 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:22.840 we've joined Later in the broadcast, we've got you know, 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:25.400 John Solomon coming up a great story in the Hill 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:28.480 about Bruce Or the number four. The Justice Department is 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:32.840 in conversations with Chris Steele, who's working with Fusion GPS 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:35.000 to put together this dossier, and the president just happens 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:37.199 to be Nelly Or. Bruce Or's wife is also working 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:40.440 for Fusion GPS and just happens to be assigned Mayor 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:45.000 to to working with Christopher Steele on the dossier, which 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:48.080 then James Coby takes and reviews with the then president 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:53.800 elect in Trump Tower in January. You got it? Whatever 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.640 that means. By the way, uh, you know that that's 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:59.480 another story the crime of collusion, which, of course, as 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:01.840 I said, the rural regulation and law on that when 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:04.160 I'm still trying to figure out I think they're still 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:06.120 trying to figure that out as well. But having said 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:08.199 all of that, you you look at the irregularities and 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:11.400 this investigation and the way it's gone on we have. 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:14.040 How about the fact that the special Council is appointed 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:17.520 because James Comey decides to leak a memo of a 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:20.719 conversation he had with the President of the United States purportedly, 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:23.680 and he leaks this memo to get a special counsel 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:25.320 and he says that and it's moren't testimony. Why did 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:27.360 he think he why did he think it would yield 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:31.200 a special counsel and independent council? I mean, that's a 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:34.439 great question. Why would why would the Justice Department certainly 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:39.720 wasn't conflicted from you can argue whether whether Sessions was, 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:43.679 but the Justice Department wasn't conflicted. How did he know 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:47.520 that Rosenstein would use that as the basis for an 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:50.320 independent council? Did they have a conversation about it? Did 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:55.199 they talk about it? Um, I don't know. My suspicious 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:58.280 nature tells me he must have known something that hasn't 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:00.920 been revealed yet. Well, look, we're getting in information every 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:02.840 single day. I mean, there's no information coming forward on this. 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:05.240 I mean literally every single day. I mean, it's not 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:07.880 it seems like there's a new aspect of this that 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:11.079 you you can't even believe, and then then it happens. 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:12.640 I mean, it doesn't even get into the issues of 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:14.640 the Fieser warr and what that was based upon. And 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:16.640 as I said, how would you like to be that judge? 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:18.960 I mean in the Fiser case talk about, you know, 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:23.240 information that isn't correct purportedly, and that's what we're hearing 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:25.760 from Congress, of course. And then you and I take 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:27.520 it another step on this, and I think this is 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:30.199 important for everybody to understand, is we have a job 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:34.160 to do, which is to give our client the appropriate advice. 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:36.360 What do we think he should do in light of 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:39.160 all of the issues and in light of the Constitution. 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:41.920 And that is a that is a highest honor that 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:45.439 any lawyer could have representing a president and defending the Constitution. 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:48.320 And that's why we have to go through a deliberative process. Yeah, 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:50.800 we can't just shoot from the hip we've got we 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:52.880 have to be able to have thought it out. We 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:54.960 have to also be able to answer his questions. And 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:57.920 you know, he takes us very seriously. He does have 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:01.040 a desire to doesn't have a desire to that he's innocent, 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:03.440 which he is. But he also understands his role as 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:07.040 president and that he just can't throw aside prerogatives of 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:09.640 the presidency. Yeah, and this also impacts I mean, let's 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:12.680 be realistic here, this will impact not just this president. 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:16.800 The decision we recommend to the president not only impacts 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:22.960 this president, but it becomes a precedent then for other presidencies. Interesting, Lewis, 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:25.440 we're doing the analysis and you look at how how 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:29.040 witnesses have cooperated in this case unprecedented. You look at 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:32.120 information that's gone over to the Special Council, unprecedented, and 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:33.880 then you look at what had presidents done, I mean 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:38.440 sometimes have been written questions. That's still an interview. Uh, 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:41.160 so that maybe one way this can go. Sometimes it's 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:44.640 combinations thereof we'll see. I mean, you know, as we're 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:47.440 not going to and I think this is something we 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:49.600 need to say. We're not going to disclose what we 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:52.240 have come back to the Special Council with. I don't 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:53.920 think we've heard the end of this. There's a lot 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:57.320 of speculation out there, but we're gonna make the right 0:11:57.360 --> 0:12:00.520 advice to our client. There will be no perjury trip. 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:02.400 I've said that, You've said down on air, there's no 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:05.280 perjury trap here. We're not because we're not gonna allow it. No, no, no, 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:09.120 I mean that's so obviously one of the things they're 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:13.760 trying to do that. Um, it's it's not easy, but 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:16.120 we can we can certainly protect against that. And I 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:18.200 think that's one of the things that I don't want 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:19.640 I don't want to talk about the matters for trial, 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:23.400 but I mean I will say this. You know we 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:25.560 can do it after say a perjury trap and in 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:27.360 other words, here you've got you've got one witness that 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:29.600 says this is what happened, and then you've got another 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:31.760 witnesses that recalls, well, no, that's not how I recall 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:33.920 it. It It happened this way, and it's does then someone 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:36.079 right up report and say, well we believe this one, 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:38.280 we don't believe that one. Thus it's perjury. So this 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:40.719 is the problem with with just walking anyone in I mean, 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:44.560 in any case and with no underlying crime. I mean again, 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:49.720 if Flynn is the example, uh, no crime. If it 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:53.120 had been said President says, go easy on him, which 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:55.480 the President says he didn't say. He said, he didn't 0:12:55.480 --> 0:13:00.440 say stop it, don't do it. Uh So no crime. However, 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:03.520 it didn't take place, according to the President. According to Comey, 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:06.560 it did. Now worse, if it did, it wouldn't have mattered. 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:09.319 But then you but you're right. If there's two different 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:11.679 recollections of a meeting, now do you set set a 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:15.240 perjury situate? Now we have plenty we have plenty of it 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:18.120 it happen, We got plenty of information to impeach him with, 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:21.160 including the fact that he testified on DeRos. By the way, 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:24.719 when we say impeach him with, we mean impeach the 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:28.400 impeach the Willy James call me there. I just want 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:30.240 to I don't want anybody to clip that two seconds. 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:32.040 You know, I know it's hard to believe that people 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:34.800 do that. You just NM would never do that, None 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:37.520 of them would. Nobody will clip just a sentence and 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:40.000 then remove the other thing. But having said that, no, 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:41.720 you're right, I mean that's part of the process that 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:43.880 we're gonna get into. All right, So we're gonna take 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:45.640 we're having a good time. By the way, you can 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:50.240 follow Ready Giuliani on Twitter at what's your Twitter handle? 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:53.880 At Rudy Giuliani. Yeah, and you could. That's not so 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:56.760 hard and minds at Jay Seculo. So are we sure 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:59.200 about that? Or do I need to check this out? Right? 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:00.839 Will you check it out? Gonna check it out while 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:03.560 I get ready to go to a break. It's at 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:05.240 J Secular that I could tell you for sure. You 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:07.200 could also follow our work at the American Center for 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:10.040 Law and Justice, said a c l J dot Org. 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:12.840 When we come back from the break, your calls in 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:17.480 comment there, He's got it right at Rudy Giuliani. Hey, 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:19.720 welcome back to the John Hannity Show. J Seculo here 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:25.240 with Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Giuliani and Seculo. Let's say that. 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:27.880 I'll just say that, and we're taking your calls. We're 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:29.240 gonna go to a call and I need to say 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:32.440 something though. I had the privilege today to go to 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.000 the Statue of Liberty and go by Ellis Island with 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:41.120 my grandchildren, and I am the grandson of a Russian 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:42.960 immigrant to the United States. My grandfather was a group 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:45.440 peddler in Brooklyn, New York, and his grandson me. I 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:47.040 get to argue cases at the Supreme Court in the 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:50.000 United States and represent a president. And I had my 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.040 my my grandson was with me, and I had three 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:54.320 of my grandchildren, and my I got to tell my grandson, 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:56.960 I said, now I'm the Paul Paul right now. So 0:14:57.080 --> 0:15:00.120 I said, you know, my Papa, you're great, great. All 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:03.240 Paul came right through that building at Ellis Island in 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:05.760 fourteen to come to the greatest country in the world, 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:08.600 the United States of American, and his eyes lit up. 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:11.800 I'm just saying, it is a great country. And you 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:14.080 think about those things, and I know you're so. I 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:17.560 have a very very good friend, Elliott, who came to 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:21.280 America when he was four or five, escaping the Holocaust, 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:25.680 and he will tell you he has amnesia. Uh, of course, 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:28.280 he's only three or four years old about anything before 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:31.360 the following thing. As he's coming through the Verrazano Narrows, 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:34.080 the first thing he remembers his seeing a statue of liberty. 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:37.240 And when he tells you that story, Mariah, right, we 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:41.840 he uh, he started crying. Yeah, well it's still time today. 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:44.280 I mean it's sixties, seventy years later, and it started 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:45.480 crying to I mean, I think about that. When I 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:47.080 argue cases at the Spreme Court, they start him the 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:49.080 same way, God Save the United States. The Honorable Court. 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:51.320 They call a case number, They call a case number, 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:54.040 and then they say, Mr Secular will now hear from you. 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.280 I make a Mr. Secular, the grandson of the Russian 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:58.320 You ever haven't dreamed that you forget what to say 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:00.680 when you get up? I don't and even get you know, 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:02.840 I don't recall every in my case is actually opening 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:05.000 up the everybody takes up a notebook. I don't recall 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:07.560 ever returning to the first page. It just so quick. 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:11.240 So we're we're co hosting for Sean Hannity. I'm at 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:14.680 j Seculo on Twitter and Rudy is at Rudy Giuliani 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:16.280 on Twitter, and you can follow me also on a 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:18.680 c l J dot org. And we're gonna not take 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:20.240 a call yet because we're gonna be taking a break 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:22.480 pretty soon, but we're gonna take calls when we come back, 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:25.560 So you can call us at eight hundred nine one 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:30.600 seven three to six. That's eight hundred nine one Sean. 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:34.320 Rudy Giuliani, the Mayor of New York, the great Mayor 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:38.000 of New York, America's mayor, and me just a lawyer 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:40.320 happens to be. Both of us represent the press of 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:42.160 the United States. We got a lot to talk about. 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:44.160 We're looking forward to talking with you. But we'll tell 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:46.240 you this when I talk about that thing with my 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:50.280 grandson boy, all those every time. All right, we'll be 0:16:50.280 --> 0:17:16.520 back with your calls in just a moment. You won't 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:20.880 hear the mainstream press talking about this stuff. Sean Hannity 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:24.560 is on the radio. Hey, welcome back to The John 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:28.400 Hannity Show. Ja Seculo and Rudy Giuliani guest co hosting 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:31.199 for Sean Hannity. We're also taking your phone calls at 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:36.080 seven three to six. It's one Sean. You can follow 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:40.639 Rudy Rudy Giuliani at Lien on Twitter at Rudy Giuliani, 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:43.000 and you could follow me on Twitter at j Seculo 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:45.399 or at a c l J dot org. We are 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:49.480 also taking your calls. As I said again, eight hundred six, 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:52.840 let's go ahead and go to dain't Ohio. Peter is 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:58.280 on the phone. Hi, Peter, Yeah, Hi, Mr. Second call me, Ja, 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:00.960 don't call me, you don't call me Mr. But I 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:05.400 go ahead, Hey, I just don't know. And I'm just 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:11.440 I just continued on the fact that we know criminal 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:16.960 activity uh and and speaking in regards to Clinton, we 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:20.399 have proof for that. And why are we not pursuing that? 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:25.520 Why is not a g sessions pursuing those criminal acts? 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:27.520 You got a little rain going on there, Pete, Peter 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:29.800 sounds like either I'm a drummer. You you're either keeping 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:32.440 a really steady beat, or you're you got or you 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:35.320 get right or a click or or your you got 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:37.560 your wipers on? Just one of the two. I suspect 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:40.000 that your wipers. But anyways, you ask a good question. 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:43.080 You ask a good question. So what about So supposedly 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:45.680 there's an investigation mayor going on by the U. S. 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:48.720 Attorney's Office and UTAH that was appointed to look at 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:52.959 all of those issues related to um UH Secretary Clinton. 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:55.760 That's supposed to be ongoing, and you wouldn't necessarily know 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:58.280 what's going on in that investing. You did investigations like that, 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:00.720 so the public wouldn't know as it's going on. Well, 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:03.199 I don't. I mean that should be the case. But 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:05.960 the reality is this is such a public thing. If 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:08.439 this was a very active investigation, we would know it. 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:12.320 And it's a source of great frustration that none of 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:15.479 these things are being pursued with the enthusiasm that they 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:19.280 should be pursued. All the things that that Greg Jarrett 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:22.280 was talking about before John Solomon, these are things that 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:27.200 normally a federal prosecutor jumps on and um here here here, 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:29.240 they've been investigating for a year and a half, two 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:33.440 years to find a crime to investigate, and they haven't 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:36.480 found it yet. And here we have a bunch of 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:39.639 alleged crimes and they're not investigating the row violating the 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:45.199 Federal Records Act, violating the Privacy Act, obstructing, obstructing justice, paying, 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:50.359 paying a foreign national to compile a false dossier on 0:19:50.359 --> 0:19:53.760 on on Donald Trump, uh, putting it in as a 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:58.840 basis for a fiser wire, knowing that that that issued 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:00.760 those that's because they think first couple of times they 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:02.800 couldn't get the Fisher warrant, they could get the I 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:05.439 think the judge should refer the whole thing for criminal prosecution. 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:09.920 Maybe that fire under them. One of the things I've wondered, 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:11.159 you know, as you look through all of this, and 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:13.280 you look at and and I do think it's important 0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:15.760 to understand the context and the nature of what's taken 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:21.159 place here. The the investigation from its inception was fraught 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:24.040 with conflict and corruption. I mean, and and every day 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:26.360 it's something new. And these are not facts, and let's 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:28.399