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Speaker 1: Fun, beautiful time. Like I so many people came in

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Speaker 1: The theme was Florida, so there was palm trees, there

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Speaker 2: Chicken wings are like one of my favorite. It was

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Speaker 1: It was a melting pot and it was exactly me,

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Speaker 3: I got two birthday tattoos.

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Speaker 2: We had Florida tattoos. Literally at one point there was

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Speaker 1: She had a alligator with my baby pictures like standing

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Speaker 1: then the for my actual birthday, she brought me and

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Speaker 2: Hamburger in New York City.

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Speaker 1: So we got hamburgers, We've got French dips, We've got

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Speaker 1: How insanely gnarly that competition is, Like it is not

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Speaker 3: I really love Jocular.

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Speaker 1: Think they do a really, really great job of opening

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Speaker 1: I'm really excited to introduce Er fight Master and t

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Speaker 1: and Tran.

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Speaker 2: Today.

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Speaker 1: We've got a crew that proves you can be hilarious,

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Speaker 1: to the show, Er, fight Master, Tea and Tran the

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Speaker 1: legends behind Jocular. They make queer sports commentary feel like

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Speaker 1: therapy honestly, but it comes with nachos and a sweet

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Speaker 4: Everyone.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to this week's episode of Wide Open. I'm your

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Speaker 1: host Ashlyn Harris.

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Speaker 2: Let's give a round of applause to Er Tres.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Wait, should we update our description for our podcast?

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Speaker 5: That nice?

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Speaker 4: Really nice?

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Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm a hype woman. If you didn't know

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Speaker 1: this about me, okay.

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Speaker 2: Let me just tell you that.

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Speaker 1: But first things first, who is the captain of the chaos?

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Speaker 2: Who who leads the Jocular locker room?

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Speaker 5: I have to know we take turns?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we really do on the day.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, they're there because you know, we're all we

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Speaker 6: So I think there are days that like we rely

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Speaker 6: are days that I've come in and I'm just like,

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Speaker 1: And we've had days also, I think where all of

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Speaker 1: then it's our producer.

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Speaker 4: Are our best episodes?

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Speaker 1: That's like really when it just stop starts popping off

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like wow, we should we should do this more often.

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Speaker 7: I think one of our best episodes is we all

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Speaker 4: Do you remember that fight? I do remember that, and

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Speaker 6: I really like the drinking episodes when we get to drink.

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Speaker 2: What what are we doing? Where do we go wrong today?

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Speaker 6: Dream?

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Speaker 5: We should have started with alcohol.

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Speaker 6: I know that you're not supposed to say things like that,

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Speaker 6: but alcohol is positive. The doctors are saying it's good

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Speaker 1: I have to like know the story behind how this

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Speaker 1: I heard your I heard you're like really into legs.

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Speaker 1: I've heard I've heard a few different podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Now you really are.

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Speaker 5: I'm a person.

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Speaker 6: Yeah freak, I be looking at those.

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Speaker 6: They love saying that why your boss highly under pain.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's just greed.

446
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Speaker 1: They want they want to keep you know, the players

447
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:40,479
Speaker 1: are building the magic.

448
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 2: People are tuning in and filling the.

449
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 1: Stadiums because they're absolutely obsessed with these players and to

450
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: not pay them for what they're worth. I would be

451
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: doing the same thing. I'd be like, no, we're not,

452
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: We're not doing this. We're not We're not making We're

453
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Speaker 1: not making eighty thousand dollars a year for rookie contract.

454
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: When I'll be really honest, I'm a Liberty season ticket

455
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: holder and the floor seats are up to like seventy

456
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Speaker 1: seven thousand dollars. I'm like, where the fuck is this

457
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 1: money going if you're not going to pay them?

458
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 4: Wow, seven thousand dollars.

459
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 2: Shoot for two tickets. So me and Sophia have tickets.

460
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Speaker 1: We were paying like, I don't know, let's just say,

461
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: like twenty six thousand for two six tickets. And we

462
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: were a row back and they were like college tuition.

463
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 1: I got two babies, honey. They were like, you want

464
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: four seats seventy seven thousand dollars And I'm like, y'all

465
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 1: have y'all. Yeah, I'll pay it as soon as you

466
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Speaker 1: start putting it in the back pocket of the players. Yeah,

467
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: and not your greeny ass self. And here we are,

468
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: and here and here we are fighting over Caitlin Clark

469
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: making eighty thousand. You know, babe, ruth In nineteen thirty

470
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: made more than that. Holy please save me with the BS.

471
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 2: That's a great these fucking women.

472
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, pay these women what they're worth and it's not

473
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Speaker 1: eighty thousand dollars a year.

474
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Speaker 6: You know, And Epheesia is so it like it was

475
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 6: such an interesting thing to do because I think you

476
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 6: know and we know this on the entertainment side of things,

477
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 6: there's actually so many scare tactics that go into keeping

478
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 6: people quiet, like that people in charge of you or

479
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 6: in positions of power, like the things that get said

480
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 6: are like unimaginable, and they are they just believe in

481
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 6: a world in which you will not have the guts

482
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 6: to go and tell on them because they will.

483
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 5: Ruin your life.

484
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 6: And like, yeah, yeah, that's scary. And and the physi

485
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 6: Collier understood her worth enough to go try to ruin

486
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 6: my life, bitch.

487
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

488
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: Also, she's like, I've already built a backup plan for

489
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: all of these players.

490
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 2: You don't scare us. We make money now and we're

491
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: making it over here, So either you want to.

492
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: Fuck with this or we'll just steal the whole thing

493
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: and run somewhere else.

494
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 2: Like that's the thing.

495
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: They can build something themselves, that people will will be

496
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: totally down with and a part of Unrivaled has been

497
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: insane the success that year one, year one, and imagine

498
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: this is going.

499
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 7: To go and they and they have given their players

500
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 7: a share of like of the revenue and the stock.

501
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 4: I just like it is totally like workers rights.

502
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 7: It's like, just like unions are amazing and like coming

503
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 7: together and like giving power to the people who actually

504
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 7: are putting the product out on to the court field.

505
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 7: Whatever industry is, like can be a lesson for every industry.

506
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 7: What NEFISA is doing and what the w NBA players

507
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 7: are doing. Kathy's shaken in her boots.

508
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 2: Honey, she came with receipts, She pulled that paper out.

509
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 2: She was like quote and everyone goes. My mouth was

510
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 2: on the floor.

511
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: I was like, did I just blackout or she just

512
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: fucking came with receipts and quotes And I was like, yep,

513
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: this is about to get serious amazing.

514
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 6: And Kenny did come forward and like and you know,

515
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 6: it does always work a little bit on me, like

516
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 6: I can always feel a little tiny bit of empathy

517
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 6: when they're like I have kids, like my kids are

518
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 6: seeing this. Yeah, And then but you didn't have any

519
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 6: fucking empathy for anybody else when you were saying that

520
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 6: ship and now you're asking.

521
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and some of these women are getting highly underpaid,

522
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: like Ellie the fucking elephant is making more than the players.

523
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 4: And then you're how much is Ellie making?

524
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 5: I don't know, but a billion?

525
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: No that makes sense, Like I don't have any like receipts,

526
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: but I heard over a half a million dollars.

527
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, I don't know.

528
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 5: We got it.

529
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: We need a team. I need a fact check producers.

530
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: Producers, Wait a minute, start fact checking half half a

531
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: billion dollars in crypto?

532
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 4: No, we just start making up.

533
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 7: She's getting paid half a billion dollars in crypto and

534
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 7: she gets to be mayor of New York City.

535
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: Wow, all of these perks and end quote. But uh,

536
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: moving on from the w n b A because their

537
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: hands are going to be full. This is not They're

538
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: not going down without any Who's this little party?

539
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 2: This pretty lot cat.

540
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 6: This is Clyde And I normally would not bring him

541
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 6: into the frame, but I just if you guys are

542
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 6: hearing like crashing and glass, it's because I'm not giving

543
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 6: him enough attention and he's I'm the same frustrated.

544
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm the same way.

545
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 5: I get it. That's me.

546
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 4: I see you, Hi, Katy.

547
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 6: I hear you. And I'm working, okay, and I'm working.

548
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 6: I'm working to pay for.

549
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: Insert in each type of promo to get a deal

550
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: for cat food. My next question just to pivot and

551
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: move along from the WNBA and keeping it queer because

552
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: I love all things queer. What would you say, out

553
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,239
Speaker 1: of all the things women's sports, what would be like

554
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: your queer awakening? Like what moment in women's sports.

555
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 2: Were you like, mm hmm. This is for me.

556
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 7: I mean, I feel like I have such a stereotypical answer,

557
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 7: but it really is my truth. Brandy Chastain, me too.

558
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 2: Put that shirt.

559
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 7: Off, take that shirt off. I remember just like watching it.

560
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 7: I was watching the World Cup with my parents and

561
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 7: I just remember being like, Okay, that just happened, feeling

562
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 7: these feelings in front of my mom and dad.

563
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 4: What's going on? And I also had her poster. I

564
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 4: have that poster still.

565
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:57,239
Speaker 7: It's like her with her shirt off like that, like

566
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 7: the famous Sports Illustrated cover of her like on the ground.

567
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 7: I just remember being like, wow, that's like so powerful,

568
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 7: and like I had just never seen anything like that before.

569
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 6: Hm.

570
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 5: That was cool.

571
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 6: In two thousand, like the early two thousands when everyone

572
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 6: started wearing spanex underneath their basketball shorts.

573
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 2: And then I don't know where this is going.

574
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 6: Well, just just seeing it like some like I think

575
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 6: I've talked about this on Jackular, but like so you

576
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 6: know when they get like a defensive position and they'd like,

577
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 6: you know it, they'd be ready to guard and they'd

578
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 6: like yank their shorts up a little bit and you'd

579
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 6: see the spandex and it was like seeing like stockings.

580
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 6: Like it was just like I felt like I was

581
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 6: like seeing like gorgeous like French prostitutes. But it was

582
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 6: like all just all my my friends in basketball shorts

583
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 6: with spandex underneath.

584
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm and I turns out I'm still gay.

585
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 5: Isn't that crazy?

586
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 7: Yep?

587
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: Crazy weird.

588
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, stay tuned.

589
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: I'll be back in just a moment.

590
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: After this brief message from our sponsors, I will say

591
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: after the Brandy chasting thing, I was walking around shirtless

592
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: for too long.

593
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 2: I don't know how long, but too long.

594
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: Everyone was like we get it, And now I'm thinking back,

595
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: I'm like I didn't know if I wanted to be

596
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: her or like fuck her, like I don't know what

597
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: was going on.

598
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: Every time I see her, I'm just like, yeah, I

599
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 2: was like walking around, I was shirtless, and I'm like

600
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 2: yeah yeah.

601
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: And now I think back and I'm like, are you

602
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: fucking good? Something was clearly not clocking for you, Like

603
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: you had every sign in front of you and you

604
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: were still trying to be straight.

605
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 5: But did you come around on it? Because I think

606
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 5: actually the.

607
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 6: Truth of like young queerness is I don't know if

608
00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 6: I want to be her, if I want to kiss her,

609
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 6: And then once you're like an older queer, you're like, no,

610
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 6: I want to be I want to be them or

611
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 6: or I want to and it's rarely for me.

612
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 5: Ever the same.

613
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's fair.

614
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: I mean I'm yeah, I still have a heavy, like

615
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 1: pretty heavy crush there good crime.

616
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. I would have loved to be in that pit.

617
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 2: Everyone just like.

618
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 7: Yeah talking about yeah, I talk about like I talked about,

619
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 7: like oh that the moment where like all your hot

620
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 7: friends run.

621
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: Over, sweaty hair blowing, and they're like taking you up and.

622
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 7: Like you've done it, You've done Honestly, it's maybe.

623
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 2: What's that someone help.

624
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, what the hell is that that TikTok.

625
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,479
Speaker 4: The like yes sports SlowMo song like.

626
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: As I'm moving shirtless God.

627
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, maybe it's less that like it was her, but

628
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 7: maybe it was the moment where everyone runs towards her.

629
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 7: I definitely was like, yeah, that's that's a dreaming.

630
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 5: I love that.

631
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: This whole conversation is just queer and gayness right now,

632
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: and I'm not going off of the topic.

633
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 2: So I hope we're ready.

634
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 5: What else is there?

635
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 4: I don't know what else to do. Let's let's strap

636
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 4: on and.

637
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: Promo here, just selling all of the good causes for

638
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: the ladies.

639
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 7: So Nike Skims put out a strap on seriously, something

640
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 7: to work with.

641
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 4: Sorry, Kim Kim k just do her just we're writing

642
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 4: it already.

643
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're giving this to them.

644
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 2: We can't know where. This is not for free.

645
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 5: This is not copyright.

646
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 4: No, you're right, yeah, this is not for free.

647
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: So so now after this podcast, we are going to

648
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: start our own brand for our own lesbian.

649
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 2: Chic, queer sexual athletic.

650
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: Or what we got to think of a name. We've

651
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 1: got to really because Nike will come after us. So

652
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: this is our next.

653
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 2: And you are too quick.

654
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 6: Trademark, trademark, trade mark mark trademark.

655
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 2: Producers, get on it. Wow, Okay, the tagline is so epic.

656
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 2: I'm serious, we're making this happen. Why wouldn't we are?

657
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 5: Should it should just be.

658
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's Nike. Just do.

659
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 2: I really think we just like, can we do this

660
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 2: every week? Really?

661
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 5: Like this is at least.

662
00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 7: Entrepreneurial think tank and we're just coming up with is

663
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 7: left and right.

664
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: I think we should be on Shark Week, Shark Week,

665
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 1: not Shark Week Shark Tank.

666
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 7: No, I want to Actually, I actually wanted to be

667
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 7: Shark Week.

668
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 2: Hunting the blood. Oh my god, fucking mess. See see

669
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 2: where see where we're going there? We don't.

670
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Speaker 6: Yes, but I only want a deal from Lorie if

671
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 6: we're if we're on Shark Tank, I only want to okay.

672
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 4: Oh oh yes, oh yes, I love I love Lori.

673
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Speaker 5: She's so beautiful and short hair, right, yes, no, no,

674
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Speaker 5: I think if I'm if I'm thinking right.

675
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Speaker 6: Laurie is the one that does QBC like so she's

676
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Speaker 6: got like the ponytail.

677
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and there's no there. Barbara is the short

678
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 5: haired one that you're Barbara?

679
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I love Barbara too.

680
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Speaker 6: I want I want the QVC woman with a ponytail,

681
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 6: because there was just a whole episode. I watched a

682
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 6: guy like wasn't really listening to her looking at her,

683
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 6: and she just went, I'm out your disrespect, you're a

684
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Speaker 6: missogy I'm out.

685
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 7: And he was like, wait, what did I What did

686
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 7: I do? And she's like, you know what you did?

687
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 5: Yeah? I love her. Oh my god, she's watching this.

688
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 5: I love you, And she's probably watching this.

689
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: Well, she'd better be.

690
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 7: And now he's already in for she's already in for

691
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Speaker 7: fifty on dyke.

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Speaker 1: Dykey literally is the most epic thing I've ever heard. Okay,

693
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: back to sports geeesus, Okay, serious question though.

694
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Speaker 2: If women's sports had the Gay.

695
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Speaker 1: Olympics, what would be the main events in your opinion? Like,

696
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: what are we doing. We're going to start a league. Two,

697
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: we're gonna start a brand. We're gonna start this.

698
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 2: Whole queer gay league. We're taking over you know what.

699
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 1: We've had enough, you guys, You've had plenty of shit

700
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: for you, and now it's time for us.

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Speaker 7: I think one of the Olympic events would be being

702
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Speaker 7: friends with your ex.

703
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 2: And I'm not there yet, so I have no context.

704
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 4: I'm not there yet either. I'm not there yet either.

705
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 7: I'm just saying I think maybe i'll not I'm not

706
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 7: there either, but I'm just saying someone would run for

707
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Speaker 7: that sounds like luxury.

708
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Speaker 1: I'm quite on the very opposite of the spectrum here.

709
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Speaker 1: I want.

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Speaker 6: I want one that's like kind of like similar to archery,

711
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 6: but it's like weaponized therapy speech. They speaker, so it's

712
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Speaker 6: just like you have to like carve in like a

713
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Speaker 6: therapy term or like, no, there's like a topic and

714
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Speaker 6: it's someone being like, hey, I actually really didn't like

715
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Speaker 6: it when you said that mean thing to me, And

716
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Speaker 6: then a bunch of like really like sassity lesbians have

717
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Speaker 6: to just like carve like, well, I didn't like it

718
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Speaker 6: when you didn't like it because it made me feel

719
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Speaker 6: like you were projecting a negative meaning of my emotions

720
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Speaker 6: onto my actions. And then they fire an arrow into

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Speaker 6: the heart of the person that said their feelings were hurt.

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Speaker 2: I mean, have you thought of this before or this

723
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Speaker 2: is just off the cuff.

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Speaker 5: I think you can tell this is off the cuff.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I don't know if we've ever thought. I

726
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Speaker 7: feel like maybe another Olympic event could be walking through

727
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Speaker 7: Dyke Day without running into any ghosts.

728
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Speaker 5: Oh god, oh god, I can't even go anymore. I

729
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Speaker 5: can't even go anymore.

730
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Speaker 6: And everyone's sitting on a fucking picnic, so you're just

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Speaker 6: like standing walking past, like.

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Speaker 7: No, it's really there's nothing worse than like running into

733
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Speaker 7: someone on dyke Day that you didn't want.

734
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Speaker 4: To run into, but you have to look up at them.

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Speaker 5: From the Oh my god, yes, and you're just like.

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Speaker 4: Cross looking up.

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Speaker 1: You're like, hi's so good to see you.

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Speaker 2: Wait, wait, who would be the main sponsors because we

739
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Speaker 2: have to be selective.

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Speaker 5: Like obviously Blessa.

741
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Speaker 6: The sext to my group obviously that they have like

742
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Speaker 6: the most like immaculate like they ever presence online. I think,

743
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Speaker 6: so they're gonna be God.

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Speaker 5: Who else? Maybe like Penguin the book publishing company.

745
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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, that's really nice.

746
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 7: Maybe Merriam Webster just yeah, just get the dictionary in there.

747
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 7: They had a really funny ad recently. Obviously the Nerdy

748
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Speaker 7: Side coming out.

749
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Speaker 2: I love.

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Speaker 4: Obviously obviously Subaru.

751
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Speaker 5: Oh god.

752
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Speaker 6: With question, I feel like we're not thinking of like

753
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 6: an art branding company. There has to be something that

754
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 6: like a company that makes paints.

755
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, yeah, and I think we I feel like

756
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 7: we lesbians always get made fun of for home Depot,

757
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 7: but Lows is actually a better to have to Low's

758
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 7: is actually a much better, more progressive of the home

759
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Speaker 7: improvement companies.

760
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Speaker 2: Especially power Tools.

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Speaker 5: And don't even get me started.

762
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Speaker 6: I went to a home depot in Vancouver and they

763
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 6: didn't even have fucking lumber? And did and did I

764
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Speaker 6: call ahead of time and ask about their like two

765
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Speaker 6: by four selection I did? Did they say they had them? Yes?

766
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 5: Did I show up there's no lumber at all? Yes,

767
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Speaker 5: abusers Low's it is yes.

768
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Speaker 2: Fuck.

769
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Speaker 7: I can't Okay, I know, I know National parks don't

770
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 7: do sponsorships, but we could get like Joshua Tree to

771
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Speaker 7: back us, you know, or like Zion.

772
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Speaker 4: We can get one of the national parks.

773
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 2: Well, I know, I was.

774
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Speaker 1: I really thought you were about to go to about

775
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: Disney because so many queer people love Disney and all.

776
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Speaker 2: But after that last ordeal, I'm like.

777
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Speaker 6: M no, no, I think Disney's gonna.

778
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 4: Disney really Disney really, Yeah, Disney's tough.

779
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 7: I had a friend once say that I had Disney

780
00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 7: energy and it was the meanest thing.

781
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Speaker 5: I hope you cut that person out.

782
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 2: No, I went.

783
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 5: The Black Eye.

784
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: Y'all are abusive over there.

785
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Speaker 5: Let me tell you we're rough and tumble.

786
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Speaker 3: To the.

787
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Well, what queer icons would you draft

788
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: in your fantasy sports league? Like, not for talent, just

789
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 1: totally for vibes.

790
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 4: Okay, how many people are we talking?

791
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Speaker 6: Like?

792
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 4: What sport are we talking about?

793
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 7: Because I feel like I would have different Oh we

794
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 7: want to go sport?

795
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Speaker 5: Okay, wait a minute, I'm saying straight up right away.

796
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 2: I want okay, so here we go.

797
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 5: I want Sue Bird in there. I love.

798
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 4: Okay, yes, and I.

799
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 5: Just like the cool factor unlimited. I'm getting sued vibes.

800
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 7: I'm going Sally Ride from the JAZ That documentary was

801
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 7: amazing and she's she's been to space.

802
00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 4: Okay, she's been to space. We got a space girly Okay,

803
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 4: but did you cry in it?

804
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: Why was it crying so much?

805
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 7: I was just like, you're seeing this person who got

806
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 7: to live their life but didn't get to live it

807
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 7: out loud?

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00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, like you have you?

809
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 2: Did you watch this?

810
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 3: No talk about like it'll like really.

811
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Speaker 2: It'll really bring.

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Speaker 1: You to Yes, that's really okay, it's yeah. And for

813
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: all of you out there, if you haven't watched it,

814
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 1: do yourself a favor, because I know all of our

815
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: listeners are mostly queru gay anyways, and you.

816
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 2: Really need to watch this because WHOA. I saw it.

817
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: I think it was at the film Festival in Tell

818
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Speaker 1: Your Ride, and I was like, I didn't want anyone

819
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Speaker 1: to see me.

820
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Speaker 2: I was like, I'm like I was.

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Speaker 1: I think I was ugly crying at one point, like

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Speaker 1: I couldn't catch my breath totally when they were like

823
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Speaker 1: dancing and it was like the last moments, and I

824
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: was like, I am not ready for this type of shit.

825
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Speaker 4: No, you were like, send me to space. I don't

826
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Speaker 4: want anyone to see me.

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Speaker 1: But also like I'm like a big fun fact about

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Speaker 1: myself which most people maybe know but maybe not. I

829
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: grew up like I was born in Cape Canaveral Hospital.

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Speaker 1: My area code is three to two one. My I

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00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: lived next to Kennedy Space Center. My town was called

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Speaker 1: Satellite Beach. My high school was Satellite High School with

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Speaker 1: like the space shuttle and the astronaut.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's very cool.

835
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Speaker 2: I went to our like class.

836
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: I had to like walk outside and we would stand

837
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Speaker 1: in a line and we'd watch every shuttle. Wow.

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00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 4: That's really cool.

839
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 2: It's like the probably the coolest thing about me. Truthfully,

840
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Speaker 2: that's all I got.

841
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 7: It's really literally, that's not true, not true, that's true.

842
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 1: Yes, but I told Sophia that story and she's safe.

843
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: She's a space baby, and like the rest was history.

844
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:52,919
Speaker 2: Like that was all I had to say.

845
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: And then she was like, you're my space baby.

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Speaker 5: You know what, that would be a good one. What

847
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 5: about what about the ability?

848
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Speaker 6: So if we're going to the Olympics real quick, if

849
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 6: we're going back to the game, we're going back, you

850
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 6: have fifteen minutes to hyper connect with a stranger.

851
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 4: You have I'm just saying, is this like ultimate empathy?

852
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 4: Like how quickly can you get into a.

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Speaker 6: D how and how are you're even going straight to

854
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 6: best friendship or you're going to falling in love? And

855
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 6: if the person and this is the person is kind

856
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 6: of like a judge after reds will be like, I

857
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Speaker 6: don't know, I didn't feel like super connected to You're out,

858
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 6: you're fucking disqualified. But if they're like I don't know, yeah,

859
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Speaker 6: Like I was dating my boyfriend Mark, who's like he's

860
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Speaker 6: lost have a boyfriend more of a brother. When when

861
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 6: Julia started talking about her interest in salamanders. I just

862
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 6: was like, wait, I love salamanders, and Mark faded from

863
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 6: my memory.

864
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Speaker 5: Okay, that's the gold meal. That's a gold medal.

865
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Speaker 1: You're also an actor and talk into these puckets like,

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00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 1: look are you just doing?

867
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Speaker 2: Who am I talking to?

868
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,240
Speaker 4: I think I think you just created Love is Blind?

869
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: Seriously right there, I'm on.

870
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Speaker 5: This season's fucked up.

871
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 4: I can't even watch it.

872
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 5: That's a little too much.

873
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 6: They're all talking about traditional gender norms. It's a little

874
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 6: strange this time around.

875
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: So the next thing we need to do is create

876
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: a reality show about women's sports.

877
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 4: God, I would watch the hell out of.

878
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 2: That, right, and it's like it's really needed.

879
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I just want to see more behind the

880
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 5: scenes period.

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Speaker 2: Behind the scenes.

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Speaker 1: Yes, do you think everyone is sleeping together attracted to

883
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's like confusing, it is, right.

884
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 6: We know that they're sleeping together. What else you would

885
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Speaker 6: possibly be doing? I mean if they're taking.

886
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Speaker 7: Their best Yeah, strange, Yeah, that would like it'd be

887
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 7: a lack of judgment to not sleep with your teammate.

888
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean talk about chemistry until until it doesn't

889
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: work out. When we have like really toxic situation going.

890
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 6: And of course everyone says like you never should have

891
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Speaker 6: dated your teammate, But in the beginning, everyone's like, oo

892
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:16,479
Speaker 6: want this.

893
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 4: Time, obviously you should date your teammate.

894
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 3: Yes, oh that's a lot of presson I know.

895
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I would watch every single second of it.

896
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 7: Could you do you do either of you watch the

897
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 7: like HBO, Hard Knocks NFL. Could you imagine if they

898
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 7: fell in love? That's what I would watch that I

899
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 7: watch that if they were dating each other.

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Speaker 2: Stay tuned.

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00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: I'll be back in just a moment after this brief

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00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 2: I have a.

904
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: Really, really hard time with men's sports sometimes, especially listening

905
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: to them and how they I'm like, first off, half

906
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: of you are gay or queer, and yes you know

907
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: just enough, Like I'm actually I'm gonna get serious for

908
00:48:59,440 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 1: a second.

909
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 2: When doesn't happen very often with us, Like what do

910
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 2: you think we could do.

911
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 1: To help change the landscape of more? I mean, statistically,

912
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: we clearly know. And if you've been around any male athletes,

913
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: very feminine, very queer, they are in there they are quiet.

914
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 2: Like what do you think it is?

915
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 5: Like?

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00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: Why are we so? Is it just because they don't

917
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: feel safe. Is it toxic masculinity? Like, yeah, what do

918
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:28,479
Speaker 1: we what.

919
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 2: Do we do?

920
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 4: I think it's toxic masculinity.

921
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a it's a deep rooted, hated hatred of women.

922
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 6: It's a deeper hatred of the feminine. Yeah, because they're

923
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 6: all still they're all still. I mean it's like the Republicans, right,

924
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 6: Like we know that like grinder shuts down after every

925
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 6: RNC because.

926
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 5: They're yes, so much increased usage.

927
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 6: And then of course this is the party of like

928
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 6: hate speech against the queer community that they claim to serve.

929
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 6: And I think that when you when you look at like,

930
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 6: of course, we're also getting fans in the men's sports

931
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 6: space that are like, are so actively in the comments

932
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 6: talking about how much they hate women's sports, and you're like, okay,

933
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 6: same thing with the Republicans talking about these like gender

934
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 6: roles in which the women are our slaves inside of

935
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 6: their own homes. All of this is coming from a

936
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 6: fear of the feminine inside of themselves because they've degraded

937
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 6: the feminine outwardly so much, and so if they are

938
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 6: if they perceive themselves as feminine, then they they I mean,

939
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 6: they have to live in the world in which they've created,

940
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 6: which feminine is bad. And so a lot of the

941
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 6: even way that they talk about like queerness, I think

942
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 6: inside of that community is jokes. Like it's like kind

943
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 6: of all of these hyper aggressive jokes about queerness. So

944
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,399
Speaker 6: it's like evening even when they're thinking about it, they're

945
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 6: coming from a place of violence. So I don't know

946
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,760
Speaker 6: that I think that there's going to be any change

947
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 6: in that direction, especially because every out player that we've had,

948
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 6: like you know, there was that player in the whatever

949
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 6: soccer league that just came out and he was a

950
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 6: meeting traded excuse me, not traded, he was let go.

951
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 6: We had that same thing with Carl Nasiv was it

952
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 6: an assib I think who was the first player in

953
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 6: the NFL to come out and then was released, And

954
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 6: so I think.

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00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 2: That's happened multiple times.

956
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, they're come out after they've already left the league.

957
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 6: These fuckers are hooking up with each other, and there

958
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 6: they are right to understand that they are not remotely

959
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 6: ever going to be in a safe enough place to

960
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 6: come out as long as we live in a patriarchy

961
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:32,240
Speaker 6: that hates women.

962
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that part er over here dropping dimes on us

963
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: and we it's but I don't even know how to

964
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: fix it because it's just it's a system that's so

965
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:49,280
Speaker 1: deeply rooted. It's like, you know, unless like a bunch

966
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: of people come out at once, which I heard at

967
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: one point rumors were surfacing that like a bunch of

968
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: NFL not a bunch, but a handful of players were

969
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 1: going to come out and kind of like be a

970
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: packed and do it together. And never heard anything from that.

971
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: And I also heard Taylor Swift at one point was

972
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 1: going to do it and look here we are. We're

973
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: you know, we're engaged in writing songs about woods.

974
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think is very gay behavior, very.

975
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 5: Gay magic way.

976
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what I was doing in high school. I

977
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 7: was talking too too much about wood and magic wands.

978
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,439
Speaker 5: But I'm but I'm not gonna. I don't. I don't

979
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 5: want to do that to the queer community right now.

980
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 5: I don't want to know because because I think that

981
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 5: the lyric like I'm not a bad bitch and this

982
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 5: is in savage is the straightest thing I've ever heard.

983
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 5: Like there's no part of me that was like that that.

984
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:50,240
Speaker 4: I was like, no, no, no, she's violently straight.

985
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 7: But I don't saying the song about the penis is like, okay,

986
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 7: too much.

987
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 4: It is very gay.

988
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:58,720
Speaker 5: I would say it was. I would say it's virginal.

989
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 4: Okay, that's there was.

990
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 6: Something about it that was like bonus in the morning,

991
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 6: they get hard boners in the evening.

992
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 5: Yes, they are like.

993
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: Okay, it worries me, you know, every like you know

994
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: a little too much listening.

995
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 5: To I did make those lyrics up.

996
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 6: And I feel like you're gonna get sued by Taylor

997
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 6: Swift for thinking that those were ye.

998
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 2: Because I'm like, wait, do you really know the fucking lyrics?

999
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 6: I just listened to the whole I love listening to

1000
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 6: whole albums when they come out.

1001
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 5: I did the same.

1002
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 2: Or do you love Taylor Swift?

1003
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 6: I love Taylor Swift, I love Taylor's Yeah, I've got

1004
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 6: no ill will towards Taylor Swift.

1005
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:33,919
Speaker 5: I love.

1006
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 6: I think, you know, it's awesome that that women like

1007
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 6: Taylor and Beyonce are at the absolute aphex of what

1008
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 6: it means to be like a musician in power. I

1009
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 6: think that, like still, that's important for specifically women to

1010
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 6: see in a world that's not catered to women being Yes, billionaires,

1011
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 6: so I you know, but I listened to. When I'm

1012
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,240
Speaker 6: on tour, especially, we'll just sit and listen to whatever

1013
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 6: albums that come out. That They did the same thing

1014
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 6: with Charlie x X, like it's fun to listen to

1015
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 6: the full albums and then you really kind of get

1016
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 6: whatever picture of the artist is telling.

1017
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 5: And this was an interesting one.

1018
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: It was just like you you create her, baby, You are.

1019
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 2: Such an artist that core.

1020
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 6: You know what she articulated the I will say this

1021
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 6: for her very strong, that she articulated exactly the message

1022
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 6: that she wanted to and that if if that's the

1023
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 6: goal of art, then she made good art.

1024
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 2: I love that period.

1025
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,919
Speaker 4: M we have an opinion either way.

1026
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: I know, I'm like, not fusty. I'm like, I'm like

1027
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 1: a mom of two toddlers. I like, I don't have

1028
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 1: time to listen to music. I don't have to have

1029
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: time to watch movies or TV. I'm like, if it's

1030
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: not sports, my kids are like, yeah, it's what is

1031
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: the new one?

1032
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 2: Demon Hunters?

1033
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 4: My four year old.

1034
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 2: Is like, Mom, I want to braid for good.

1035
00:54:58,880 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1036
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, I only know the soccer braid. I don't

1037
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: know the fucking French thing that starts here. And I'm

1038
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: like you're getting a slick pony and then you're getting

1039
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,240
Speaker 1: the sports braid. Okay, you knew that, that's it.

1040
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 4: I know what you mean.

1041
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 7: The front, You're like, I'm braiding the hair that is

1042
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 7: hanging away from the head. I'm not integrating the head,

1043
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 7: the hair that's connected to your head up here, like

1044
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 7: I got on.

1045
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 2: Swear to god, I got on.

1046
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: I think it was TikTok, and I put in the

1047
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: search like Demon Hunter's braid, and I'm like seeing all

1048
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: these moms and I looked at it was so fucking complicated.

1049
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 2: I was like, Nope, not gonna happen YouTube. Nope, not

1050
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:39,479
Speaker 2: gonna I.

1051
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 6: Was startled by that movie because I don't think it

1052
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 6: was clear enough to the children that I was watching

1053
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 6: you with that the demon man is bad and the

1054
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 6: man is a demon. He says point blank. Not this

1055
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,479
Speaker 6: is not me like queer flubbing it. He says, point blank,

1056
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 6: I'm going to use her, shame her, and then he

1057
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:08,720
Speaker 6: pursues her part. And this is the number one streamed show.

1058
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 2: No I know.

1059
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 4: I keep trying to watch it, and the.

1060
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,919
Speaker 5: Young people are thinking this man is hot.

1061
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 6: They're like, well, at the end of it, doesn't he

1062
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 6: have growth, No bitch, she basically just sent.

1063
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 5: To grades.

1064
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 8: And then.

1065
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 4: It follows every TV show.

1066
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 5: I know. It's a bomber.

1067
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 7: You know, it sounds a lot like Sex in the City,

1068
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 7: like this Demon sounds like mister Biggs.

1069
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know what to tell.

1070
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 8: Oh really, mister is it just big?

1071
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 5: It's just big?

1072
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 4: Did I say, Biggs?

1073
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1074
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that show too. Okay, mister Biggs.

1075
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 5: Okay, well are you an Aiden or mister big guy?

1076
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 4: Neither? They're both gross?

1077
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 8: Okay, wow, yeah, sorry takes there goes a juice box.

1078
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: Okay, before we end, I do have one last question

1079
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: because I wanna, I want, I really value both of

1080
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: your opinions, and I like I I wonder out of

1081
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: all the growth we've had in women's sports, and both

1082
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 1: of you have been a part of watching or you know,

1083
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: youth sports, Like, what do you think we haven't achieved

1084
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: yet in women's sports you would like to see not culturally,

1085
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: but like you specifically, what do you feel that we

1086
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: just have not checked that box in women's sports yet.

1087
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 6: Mine is gonna be a little controversial. I think it's

1088
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 6: self respect and I think it's particularly it's self respect

1089
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 6: juxtaposed to like as women's sports versus men's sports. And

1090
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 6: I think that you can see this lack of self

1091
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 6: respect in the trans conversation. And of course I'm not

1092
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 6: including everyone in this, I'm just saying I think this

1093
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 6: would be like monumental change. One of the conversations that

1094
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 6: comes up most often when you're talking to specifically a

1095
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 6: woman who does not want trans women in sports is

1096
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 6: that there's actually this inherent belief that all men are

1097
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 6: better athletes than all women, and that athletes that I

1098
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 6: know that are not transphobic tend to be the best

1099
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 6: fucking women on the field or on the court where

1100
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 6: they have self respect and they're like, let the best

1101
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 6: player play, it feels much less gender so and I

1102
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 6: think that you can also see this of like, and

1103
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 6: this is no heat or shade on anyone, but I

1104
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 6: think that a lot of like the sports spaces, they started.

1105
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 5: To feel more legitimate when male celebrities.

1106
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 6: Started to show up, and that also felt like a

1107
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 6: weird like, well, you know what you actually like, you

1108
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 6: had a lot of queer people showing up, you had

1109
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 6: a lot of women in the industry showing up, you

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Speaker 6: had a lot of people supporting you before, and now

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Speaker 6: like these guys who I'm glad that they're there, are

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00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 6: like really so important to us in a way that

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00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 6: doesn't feel like totally like it makes sense to me.

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Speaker 6: And I think that once we really come to terms

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Speaker 6: with the fact that women are as talented as any

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Speaker 6: other being on the planet, if not more talented, and

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Speaker 6: more spectacular and more interesting to watch, I don't think

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Speaker 6: that we'll need the external validation. I don't think we'll

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Speaker 6: worry so much about trans people playing these sports, and

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Speaker 6: I think we'll be able to relax into these spaces

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Speaker 6: and not worrying about what trolls are saying about what

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00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 6: anybody thinks about us. And these spaces are sacred, so

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Speaker 6: I want to enjoy them, and that requires us feeling

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Speaker 6: confident about.

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Speaker 5: What we've created.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and I to kind of piggyback off of that

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Speaker 7: less of like what I think that women's sports hasn't

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Speaker 7: checked off, But it's more that like sometimes I think

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Speaker 7: that list of achievements is in comparison to men's leagues,

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Speaker 7: And I don't like the fear that I have with

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Speaker 7: the growth, which is amazing is that some of the

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Speaker 7: toxicity and sort of like the like uber hyper capitalism

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Speaker 7: of men's sports seeping into women's sports in a way

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Speaker 7: where like, you know, something like the bubble wouldn't have happened,

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Speaker 7: or like something like where these athletes don't feel empowered

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01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 7: to like break from the status quo. I think we

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Speaker 7: are seeing that in these leagues of like no Fisa

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Speaker 7: Collier stepping up and speaking out, or like the PWHL

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Speaker 7: being so like like a wonderful league, and so like

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Speaker 7: empowering of career and trance athletes is because they haven't

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Speaker 7: had that level of like male toxicity or like yeah,

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Speaker 7: like the toxic masculinity that can like kind of come

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Speaker 7: into like the crowds. Like I love that with the

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Speaker 7: growth of women's sports, Like when I go to a

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Speaker 7: WNBA game or an nwsail game, it feels really amazingly

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Speaker 7: queer and it feels safe for everyone. I don't feel

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Speaker 7: that way when I go to a men's sporting event.

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Speaker 7: And I hope that with the growth that like the

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01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 7: values that women's sports have been built on don't get

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Speaker 7: lost in chasing the.

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Speaker 1: Dollar bills, yeah, because money isn't everything.

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01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 2: You don't want to sell yourself to the devil here.

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01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 1: And I think that's where people miss it. And you

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Speaker 1: both just said it so beautifully. It's like there's a

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01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: lot more to the puzzle and the pie here. It's

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01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: not just about making money. There's a lot of you know,

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01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 1: other things that really matter that you know, we're going

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01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 1: to push the needle forward and we need to be

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Speaker 1: a part of that change.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Like, like you said, those tickets, ticket prices that can

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01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 7: like very quickly ostracize, alienate a group of your fan

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01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 7: base who can't.

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01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 4: Afford, can't afford it, can't afford it.

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Speaker 2: Who can't afford that?

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01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 4: I know who can afford Yeah, So it's.

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Speaker 1: It's it's really, it's it's so it's the truth, and

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01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: you start losing the identity and what really this culture

1169
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: was built on.

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Speaker 2: And it's not the Playbook of Men now.

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01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 1: It is literally feeling so seen and feeling a part

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01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 1: of the growth and a part of the struggle.

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Speaker 2: Like all of these.

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Speaker 1: Fans have been there from the beginning. It's a totally

1175
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 1: different clientele, it's a totally different fan base. The playbook

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01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 1: cannot be the same as the men. And that's why

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Speaker 1: I like, I've been a part of a lot of

1178
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 1: failed leagues, a lot of it was we were failing

1179
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 1: because we were using the playbook of men's sports.

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Speaker 2: Yep, it doesn't fucking work.

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01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 1: We are totally different the way we show up, the

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01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 1: way we operate all of them.

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Speaker 5: I think that's true.

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01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 6: I think that's true, even like you know, constantly thinking

1185
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 6: about it to start to bring it back.

1186
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 5: But this like trans conversation is like I don't.

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01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 6: Want, you know, for the people who do consider trans

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01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 6: women just men that are trying to get ahead, which

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Speaker 6: is like so fucking insane.

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Speaker 4: And it's so crazy, so stupid.

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01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 6: It is for people that think that I'm like, that

1192
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 6: type of behavior is not welcome here, Like I there

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01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 6: is no room for me in women's sports, for bigotry

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01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 6: of any kind. And I mean I even felt like

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01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 6: a sense of relief when we found out that the

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01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 6: people that were throwing like sex toys on the court,

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01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,919
Speaker 6: when it was like some fucking dude, because a big

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01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 6: part of my brain was like, course, I don't want this,

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Speaker 6: not from our people. And I think that you know,

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Speaker 6: regardless of what you biases you hold there is like

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01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 6: women's sports is a sacred space to a lot of people.

1202
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 6: It's where a lot of people do feel safe it's

1203
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 6: where they see their queerness for the first time. It's

1204
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 6: where they see strong women with different bodies, it's where

1205
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 6: they say queer people. It's like, this is this is sacred,

1206
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 6: and I don't want any of the male fan energy

1207
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 6: to come warp what we've.

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Speaker 2: Built correct exactly, and you both are really paving the way.

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01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 1: To create that safe space through your podcast and what

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01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,439
Speaker 1: you're doing. I'm sad Katie's not here today, but we'll

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01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 1: catch up with her next time. But I appreciate you

1212
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 1: both being on the show, and more importantly, I appreciate

1213
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 1: the way you show up in the world and you

1214
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 1: want to be a part of this change, and you're

1215
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 1: inviting everyone in because we need more belonging, we need

1216
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: more community, especially right now with what's going on, and

1217
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 1: sports is that through line sports, especially women's sports, is

1218
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: just like you said, you are like you can really

1219
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 1: see yourself and it's a safe space where everyone's accepted

1220
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 1: and that is sacred to our community. And you bring

1221
01:04:53,920 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 1: the right type of language, community, education and laughter that

1222
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 1: really is going to make us better and lift us up.

1223
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: And I appreciate I love I love listening to the podcast.

1224
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:11,919
Speaker 1: It is and please for the listeners or anyone watching, like.

1225
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 2: Go check it out.

1226
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 1: It's it's fucking funny, it's real, it's honest, it's raw, and.

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01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 5: We have a real dumb time and you'll, like you have.

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01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 1: A great time, and we need more of that right now.

1229
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 1: So if you want to, if anything else is coming

1230
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 1: up you both want to talk about, please feel free.

1231
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 1: But uh, everyone go check out their podcast.

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Speaker 2: It really is.

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Speaker 1: It's an enjoyable time and I sometimes feel like I'm

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01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 1: sitting at the table with you, which is hard to do.

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01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 2: So you're doing something right.

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01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 5: Well now we are. Thank you for having us.

1237
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 4: Thank you so much.

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01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 1: Say hi, I love, I will, I will. I will

1239
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 1: definitely do that. And hopefully when we get back to

1240
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 1: l A we can all hang out and have a

1241
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 1: little bit of a eight night or something fun. But

1242
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 1: I appreciate I appreciate you both being on wide open.

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01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 1: Thank you everyone for tune up. Look who popped in? Love?

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Speaker 6: Baby baby?

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Speaker 2: Why okay? Get on here, baby, get on here? Baby?

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Speaker 5: Hi, Hi, my love, how are you, hikutie? Good to

1247
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Speaker 5: see you.

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01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 2: I miss you. Guys.

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01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 5: You should have been here.

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01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 2: Do you want to bring home our podcast?

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01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 1: Do you want to say thanks everyone for tuning in

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01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 1: to Wide Open.

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01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:40,919
Speaker 4: Thanks everyone for tuning in and watching all these hotties

1254
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 4: talk shit on Wide Open.

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Speaker 5: Gorgeous, we go Gorgeous.

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Speaker 4: That is beautiful.

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Speaker 1: We love you, and there you have it. That's our

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Speaker 1: show for the week and we will see you next

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Speaker 1: time on Wide Open with Ashlon Harris

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Speaker 6: Rot that blo.