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Speaker 2: We'll have a special guest later on this hour on Friday,

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Speaker 2: and of course a lot last week we talked about

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Speaker 2: fentanyl poisoning, and that's what it is. There are a

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Speaker 2: lot of young people who are buying drugs, and of

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Speaker 2: course they shouldn't buy drugs right, looking for percoset or something,

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Speaker 2: and instead they end up with a pill with.

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Speaker 1: Too much fentanyl and they die.

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Speaker 2: State of California's public safety committees don't want to do

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Speaker 1: We've been over this for weeks now.

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Speaker 2: We've thrown everybody in the dumpster we could find, and

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Speaker 2: we're trying to at least get one bill moved through,

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Speaker 2: which was called Alexandra's Law to punish the fentanyl dealers.

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Speaker 1: They do it once, okay, but the next time you're

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Speaker 1: gonna be punished with homicide charges. What is the role

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Speaker 2: This is something else we need to talk about, because

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Speaker 2: that's a lot of ways that young people connect with

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Speaker 2: the pills. And we're going to talk to a man

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Speaker 2: coming up later on this hour in his first hand experiences.

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Speaker 2: And there's a lawsuit against one of the big social

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Speaker 2: media outlets, snap, which is the parent of snap Chat,

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Speaker 2: And we'll find out the extent to which this happens

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Speaker 2: on social media and what good this lawsuit will do.

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Speaker 1: That's coming up in about thirty minutes. All right, So

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Speaker 1: Deborah Mark's okay, did everyone check see if she's all right?

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Speaker 3: Are those the swarm of earthquakes?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? She was well aware.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday morning a big swarm of earthquakes out near the

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Speaker 2: This one had a depth of over four miles and

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Speaker 2: was followed by several other quakes of roughly the same magnitude.

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Speaker 2: Remember the story last week clusters of small.

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Speaker 3: Quakes, I know, and now we have this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, those were micro quakes down in the South Bay region.

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Speaker 1: Now we're talking about the Sultan Sea. These are serious

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Speaker 2: People felt it in Palm Desert, Indio, El Central Mexicali

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Speaker 1: You guys, Did you guys see the front page of

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Speaker 1: What am I looking at? How did this happen? And

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Speaker 1: Thanks. The photo is so old that the license plate

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Speaker 2: Because the Times did a story about seismic inflation. That's

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Speaker 2: California is protected to lose an average of nine point

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Speaker 1: See that that's the big cheat whenever they do scare

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Speaker 2: I don't believe there was ten billion dollars worth of

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Speaker 1: That's why I think we're overdue for a big one,

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Speaker 1: My hundreds of years from now right exactly.

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Speaker 2: There'll least some remnants of you out there from DNA though,

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Speaker 1: They called it. First time I heard the term of

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Speaker 2: But I think Deborah Mark is right. The least of

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Speaker 2: this exactly. It's really that damaging. I also enjoyed over

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, we're still giving away money. That's good

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Speaker 2: news from Monday, right, Do you have a chance at

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Speaker 2: up next. Johnny Ken, KFI eight M six forty Live Everywhere,

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Speaker 1: Deboram, Hello, it is just working, Deborah Mark.

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Speaker 2: guest will be Sam Chapman. His son died in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty one from fentanyl poisoning. He's a part of a

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Speaker 2: group of families that have alleged that snap, the parent

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Speaker 1: Algorithm that helps connect kids to illegal drugs. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: It's another aspect of the fentyel problem that probably goes

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Speaker 2: one point thirty. Well, you have to always be suspicious,

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Speaker 2: you know when you hear about homeless counts and homeless surveys.

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Speaker 2: La Metro survey six hundred homeless riders exit nightly when

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Speaker 1: Right. You don't want one hundred vagrants whacked out on

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Speaker 2: You know the old expression, you can't make people happy

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Speaker 2: All right, when we return, we're gonna talk once again

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Speaker 2: our attention to social media and its role in connecting

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Speaker 1: Sadway to put it. Sam Chapman's son died in twenty

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Speaker 5: Well, so, drug dealers are networking among the kids, pretending

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Speaker 5: exact location of your child on the planet, and that's

441
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Speaker 5: horribly dangerous. They have things that addict the children called streaks,

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Speaker 5: where if I snap you you snap me back. We've

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Speaker 5: started a streak, and before midnight tomorrow we've got to

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Speaker 5: do it again to keep the streak alive. And more

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Speaker 5: streaks you have going, the more popular you are. It's

446
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Speaker 5: sort of like a badge of courage or a badge

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Speaker 5: of honor. And by the time they're done, are tending

448
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Speaker 5: all these streaks, staying up late to make sure that

449
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Speaker 5: they've got them all, you know, nailed down, and it's

450
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Speaker 5: helping to addict them to the platform. So I personally

451
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 5: am not in it for the money. I'm hoping that

452
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Speaker 5: they'll change some of these dangerous features of their platform.

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Speaker 1: Well, what's calling is all the executives, all the employees

454
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Speaker 1: know this is going on. They know what's going on,

455
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Speaker 1: and they don't care at all. I mean, they're killing

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Speaker 1: their customers and they don't care.

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Speaker 5: That's right, and the reason is because they are heartless.

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Speaker 5: Number one and number two. Wall Street rewards them for

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Speaker 5: the number of users that they have, not even for

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Speaker 5: how much money they make, So anything they do that

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Speaker 5: tamps down that number hurts their stock price.

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Speaker 1: So that's the only motive here for them.

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Speaker 5: It's wealth. And you know, Evan Spiegel has kids himself,

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Speaker 5: and I wonder when they become of age if they'll

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Speaker 5: be allowed to go on Snapchat.

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Speaker 1: Evan Spiegel's the CEO.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's the CEO, and I spoke with him and

468
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Speaker 5: told him about all of the dangers and asked him

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Speaker 5: to allow for parent monitoring software like bark. There's a

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Speaker 5: bark dot us. It's website you can go to and

471
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Speaker 5: download software that will let a parent know if something

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Speaker 5: dangerous is typed on their device, their kids devices, or

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Speaker 5: one of the platforms. But most of the platforms with

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Speaker 5: kids on it don't allow it. So TikTok, Instagram's instant messaging,

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Speaker 5: Facebook's instant messaging, and Snapchat don't allow it. Also, it's

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Speaker 5: important for parents to know discord the gaming platform, but

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Speaker 5: Microsoft does not allow it either. And these gaming platforms

478
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Speaker 5: are just as dangerous. So we're pushing for Sammy's Law.

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Speaker 5: It's Senehill forty five here in California, and it would

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Speaker 5: require platforms with miners on them to allow for parent

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Speaker 5: monitoring software integration.

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Speaker 1: What did Evan Spiegel say when you made that request.

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Speaker 5: He's worried about the privacy of his data stream. They

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Speaker 5: sell this data for big money about our kids to

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Speaker 5: advertisers and others, and he was worried that if they

486
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Speaker 5: turned their data stream over to another company, there might

487
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Speaker 5: not be the privacy that they need. And I told

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Speaker 5: him that privacy for kids is something that parents should

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Speaker 5: be in charge of based on the kid's age and maturity,

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Speaker 5: and that Snapchat was interfering in that.

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Speaker 1: But it's resulting in deaths. You know, he's playing privacy

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Speaker 1: up against the reality of people like your son dying.

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Speaker 5: I know, I know, And I told him he's going

494
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Speaker 5: to have to choose between being a rich man on

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Speaker 5: his deathbed and having all of these kids deaths on

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Speaker 5: his conscience. And I can see which one he's chosen.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: They treat this like a pr problem, and they come

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Speaker 5: up with these little fixes that any twelve year old

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Speaker 5: can get around. And you know, we need something that's

501
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Speaker 5: going to cover all the platforms and all the devices,

502
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Speaker 5: or the kids will just jump to another one that

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Speaker 5: doesn't carry it. So even if all the social media

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Speaker 5: platforms put on parent monitoring software, they'll go to the

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Speaker 5: gaming platforms. So any platform with minors on it ought

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Speaker 5: to let the parents protect all, right, Sam.

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Speaker 1: How can people find out more about all this?

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Speaker 5: Well? You know, we're in the news everywhere, so you

509
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Speaker 5: can search for the Snatchat lawsuit and you'll find out

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Speaker 5: all about it. We've been in the media for days now.

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Speaker 5: And there is an organization called the Organization for Social

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Speaker 5: Media Safety. Social Media Safety dot org has got tips

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Speaker 5: for families about how in this environment to help your kids,

514
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 5: you know, behave differently. If they receive sexual content or

515
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 5: drug related content, you teach them to block and report.

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Speaker 5: They are apps where you can measure the amount of

517
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Speaker 5: time everyone spends on social media. Put a chart on

518
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Speaker 5: the fridge and mark down the numbers of everybody in

519
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 5: the family and try and create a culture where that

520
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 5: number comes down. So go to Social Media Safety dot

521
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 5: org or download Bark from bark dot us. Bark also

522
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 5: has a safe Phone for kids, which is a revelation

523
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 5: where they won't get these platforms on those phones. So

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Speaker 5: those are some of the tips that have a good

525
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Speaker 5: way to go. Yeah, and in the meantime, you know,

526
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Speaker 5: get your kids use their name and passwords for all

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Speaker 5: of their devices and all of their platforms. We're still

528
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Speaker 5: the ones who pay for it, so it's a quid

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Speaker 5: pro quo. You can't have the devices unless I have

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Speaker 5: to use her names and passwords.

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Speaker 2: All right, Sam, thanks for coming on. Our condolences too,

532
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 2: over Sammy, We appreciate talking to you.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for covering it. It's a life saving topic.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: That's Sam Chapman, whose son died in twenty twenty one

536
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 2: from fentanyl poisoning, and he's part of a group of

537
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 2: parents suing Snapchat over algorithms that connect kids to illegal drugs.

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Speaker 2: John and Ken KFI AM six forty Live everywhere the

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Speaker 1: Tech executives are dark, evil, soulless a holes, aren't they's

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Speaker 1: making sure we get enough people right, truly evil? Hi, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the devil spawn.

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Speaker 1: Six forty Johnny Ken Show here on KFI. I come

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Speaker 2: At two o'clock. It's time for another round of the

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Speaker 2: vegan versus the.

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Speaker 3: Carnivore Go vegans, Go vegans.

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Speaker 2: Scientists are calling on Deborah Mark a zelot to stop

553
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Speaker 2: pushing her vegetarian and vegan diets on people, warning that

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Speaker 2: meat is crucial for a healthy lifestyle. Almost one thousand

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Speaker 2: academics so leading universities across the world have signed an

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Speaker 2: initiative which argues that livestock farming is too important to

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Speaker 2: become a victim.

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Speaker 1: Of this zelotry. Oh, it's a good word. Words you

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Speaker 1: don't see off in zelotry. Ha ha, I repeat ha ha.

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Speaker 2: Is that the extent of today's debate is a couple

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Speaker 2: of hajas.

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Speaker 3: I say boo and I say fake.

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Speaker 2: Yes, she texted fake news to this. You know that

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Speaker 2: a foundand academics. Sean sounds a affronted, likeke he's been hurt.

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Speaker 1: I am personally a fact. I'm that is so fake.

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Speaker 1: That's a fake apology. Yes, it is Animal Frontiers. I

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Speaker 1: should Frontier. It's an academic journal. How about that that's

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Speaker 1: where they publish the study. Well, if there are a

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Speaker 1: bunch of meat eaters, I don't think they're two kind

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Speaker 1: of animals. Well, it's a collaboration professional animal science societies, society,

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Speaker 1: dozens of experts. I should join one of these societies.

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Speaker 1: And and and they're looking they're looking at all these

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Speaker 1: claims that meat eating causes diseases, causes global warming. But

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Speaker 1: what they're saying is, look at all the good meat

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Speaker 1: does because it's it's got vitamin B twelve.

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Speaker 3: Which I take a supplement.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, but you do, see, but you do

578
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Speaker 1: have a shortage of it.

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Speaker 3: I do not. I get tested every year. I'm just fine.

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Speaker 3: I take, I take. I told you I have a.

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Speaker 1: Natural shortage of it because of your zealous diet.

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Speaker 3: Zealous diet.

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Speaker 1: OMEGA three, fatty acids, and minerals such as iron and

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Speaker 1: z that's right, you'll end up getting I need zinc.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, and redinal Dude, you know I've heard of it.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's something that you put on your your

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Speaker 3: face to help with the aging process.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's where I've seen that word. Right, the paper

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Speaker 1: suggested marks getting a baggy face, not even meat. I

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Speaker 1: am not.

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Speaker 3: Don't put that out there either.

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Speaker 1: It's right, you just put out like a bad ye.

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Speaker 2: Also called vitamin A, a fat soluble vitamin family.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's right, yes, And they used to prescribe that

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Speaker 1: for acney issues.

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00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 2: It's needed for vision, cellular development, maintenance of skin, and

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Speaker 2: mucous membrane.

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Speaker 1: You get that from meat. The paper suggested the link

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Speaker 1: between red meat and disease was almost eradicated when it

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Speaker 1: was combined with a healthy diet, suggesting that it was

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Speaker 1: the rest of the diet that is the cause behind

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Speaker 1: the health issues, suggesting reminding fresh meat and dairy from

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Speaker 1: dietrit harm human health. Women, children, elderly, and people on

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Speaker 1: low income particularly would be particularly negatively impacted.

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Speaker 2: But that it says here it's hard to replicate the

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Speaker 2: nutritional content of meat, either with your fake meats or

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Speaker 2: your vitamin But if it be twelve supplements, yes, well,

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Speaker 2: see livestock derived foods provide a variety of essential nutrients.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we must have evolved two so that meat tastes

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Speaker 1: really good to us, so that we'd eat more of

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Speaker 1: it because it keeps us healthy and so that we

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Speaker 1: live longer. And it tasted goods, So why does it

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Speaker 1: taste good? It tastes good because it's necessary.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but why do my vegetables taste delicious?

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Speaker 1: Well, but you're a minority on that one.

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Speaker 3: And the other things that I that I eat that

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Speaker 3: have protein.

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Speaker 1: You know, I found another scientific article the other day

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Speaker 1: which I was saving for this exact moment. Uh huh

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Speaker 1: oh no, the scientific this is from? Where is this from? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Medium dot com it's a blogging news site. The scientific

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Speaker 1: reason some people can't stand vegetables bitterness is nature's way

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Speaker 1: of warning us about harmful things we shouldn't eat. Cyanide

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Speaker 1: is bitter, but several healthy foods, including broccoli and colliflower,

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Speaker 1: are bitter too, which makes them disgusting and inedible to

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Speaker 1: some people but not to others. And apparently it's a

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Speaker 1: genetic issue. I have genes that make my bitter tasting

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Speaker 1: taste buds very strong, and you don't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't like vegetables when I was a child, but

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Speaker 3: I eat them because I know that they're healthy for me.

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Speaker 3: And why because I've read many studies the show how

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Speaker 3: healthy vegetables are, including doctor's visits. They they talk about

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Speaker 3: how healthy eating vesta.

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Speaker 1: I have a thousand researchers on my side to it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well I'm going to go find my own researchers.

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Speaker 1: Now, twenty percent of people find vegetables on bearable. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not in the twenty percent.

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Speaker 3: I likes vegetables their way.

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Speaker 1: Like is a strong word. They are what researchers call

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Speaker 1: it but not unacceptable. Researchers call them super tasters. If

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Speaker 1: you and I made my peace with vegetables, let's put.

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Speaker 3: It down because you know they're good for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I guess so. But I try not to

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Speaker 2: put all sorts of dressing and gravies all over them.

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Speaker 2: I just don't think that's a wise idea, even though

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Speaker 2: I know they taste.

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Speaker 3: Olive oil, avocado oil, which is my favorite.

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Speaker 1: Let me make one final no, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: hear it. If you inherited super taster jeans, then vegetables

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Speaker 1: like Brussels spouts sprouts will taste disgusting. Roughly thirty percent

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Speaker 1: of the people don't sense the bitterness at all. They

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Speaker 1: have two copies of a gene variant called av I.

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Speaker 1: If a super taster has two pa v jens, then

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Speaker 1: we're talking about a ruin your day level of bitter.

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Speaker 3: See, it's just an excuse so that you need vegetables.

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Speaker 1: I look, I keep your I'll bring you science here.

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Speaker 1: I have two pav jeans, you have two ave I jens.

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