Speaker 1: This is the twenty twenty one NFL Draft with Kyle Yeomans.
Speaker 1: Brian brought us Dave Hellman, Dane Brufler, and Jeff Cavanaugh.
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Speaker 1: Draft show and draft coverage in general. Brian brought us
Speaker 1: Jeff Kavanaugh, Dane Bruce were from the Athletic and then
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot COM's own draft expert, as we like
Speaker 1: to call you. I feel like Brian and Jeff would
Speaker 1: probably have something to say about that, and same thing
Speaker 1: with Dane. But Brian draft actually David Hellman something to
Speaker 1: say about everything I do. So no, Dave's an expert.
Speaker 1: Just Dave goes to like one hundred to one hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty players, then I go to one fifty and
Speaker 1: Brian goes to two hundred, and then Dane goes to
Speaker 1: eight hundred. Yeah, Dave, Dave is an expert. That might
Speaker 1: be the best thing you've said already, Dave. Dave's an
Speaker 1: expert to a certain point. And then Dave likes to
Speaker 1: ask Dane what he thinks. Yeah, tomorrow is gonna be boy,
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to hear what Dane has to say tomorrow.
Speaker 1: A lot of pitching that direction to that side of
Speaker 1: the table. And of course, right now it looks like
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have a little bit of time until they
Speaker 1: are on the clock. They pick at the moment, and
Speaker 1: there's a lot of emphasis on at the moment at
Speaker 1: the number forty four over all slotted spot as the
Speaker 1: Cowboys still waiting for their second pick. Of course, their
Speaker 1: first one came at twelve. In last night's part of
Speaker 1: the draft of the first round, Michael Parsons, linebacker out
Speaker 1: of Penn State, was taken with the twelfth overall pick
Speaker 1: after trading down from the Philadelphia Eagles. But Brian, I
Speaker 1: mean there is some smoke coming from that front office,
Speaker 1: in that that war room at the moment of maybe
Speaker 1: trying to get back up in the early parts of
Speaker 1: this second round. Yeah, this is great to be and
Speaker 1: if this is the difficult thing that you deal with
Speaker 1: when everybody has had the opportunity to sleep on their
Speaker 1: board and you know, you got all those names up,
Speaker 1: then you're thinking like, Okay, how can I get to
Speaker 1: this guy? How can I maneuver? And you know, Dallas
Speaker 1: has got the extra picks that they can maybe make
Speaker 1: this happen. And I'm hearing for from several of my
Speaker 1: guys up on the top near that board that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are attempting to move up there to get in
Speaker 1: that range, you know, the top of the first pick
Speaker 1: there would be at thirty three, thirty four, with the
Speaker 1: Jets Atlanta at thirty five. Starting to hear some whispers
Speaker 1: about that maybe the Cowboys were trying to get up
Speaker 1: in there. So they're trying they've got a player of mine.
Speaker 1: And but the thing about it, though, guys, sometimes these
Speaker 1: teams are not going to let you back in because
Speaker 1: they're sleeping on those boards, and you know, and they
Speaker 1: see those players like, man, let's let's just pick this guy.
Speaker 1: We'll move on and we'll work the roast of the
Speaker 1: draft from there. That's the hard part for me. And
Speaker 1: we said that, you know, we did the pro post
Speaker 1: round press conference last night. We got back on the air,
Speaker 1: and Brian, you remember twenty fourteen. It feels a lot
Speaker 1: like that to me, where you know, you drafted Zach Martin.
Speaker 1: There you maybe had one guy by the name of
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence that you really loved, and they jumped up
Speaker 1: to pick thirty four second pick in the round to
Speaker 1: get him. The problem is they had a trade partner
Speaker 1: and do they have it right now? And that's the
Speaker 1: big question for me. I mean, we're gonna find out,
Speaker 1: because I think if the Cowboys can trade, I really
Speaker 1: think that they're gonna try to because they have the AMMO.
Speaker 1: I think they're happy with Micah Parsons, but I think
Speaker 1: we would all agree they would have loved to have
Speaker 1: gotten a cornerback last night. That's my inclination at least,
Speaker 1: and I think they're gonna try. It's just a matter
Speaker 1: of if they can find a part They're looking at
Speaker 1: those three third round picks and they're not thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna draft three good players there. They're thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna use one of those two of those to
Speaker 1: go up and get even better player. And if they
Speaker 1: come away within the first three rounds with three players.
Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with that if they really believe in those players.
Speaker 1: And so corner, maybe another defensive player could be a safety,
Speaker 1: someone they have their eye on, someone looking to trade
Speaker 1: up and get their guy. Who do you think that
Speaker 1: would be. That's my biggest question, because it could be
Speaker 1: a corner Jaff, it could be a safety. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, you're gonna have to give up a
Speaker 1: good amount of draft capital to get into that conversation,
Speaker 1: especially whenever it is, like Brian said, after sleeping on
Speaker 1: a board like they have. Yeah, and it's tough because
Speaker 1: you try to narrow it down based on who you
Speaker 1: think the best players are left, and then you throw
Speaker 1: in the Cowboys' needs, right, because my initial inclination would
Speaker 1: be Holy Cow, Jeremiah Wosu Cormo is the best player
Speaker 1: on this board. But is that somebody that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: would be interested in or do we need to shift
Speaker 1: our attention over to somebody like Trevon merrig or Richie
Speaker 1: Grant or one of these corners. And again, because I
Speaker 1: want to get in their brain and my brain. If
Speaker 1: you were going up for a corner, I'm like, whoa
Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph and Asante Samuel Junior, and one of those
Speaker 1: is coachability questions, and one of those is small and
Speaker 1: so do I need to move on down a little
Speaker 1: bit and say, okay, what about like Trevon marrig or
Speaker 1: Tyson Campbell the Georgia corner? Would they be in on
Speaker 1: Christian Barmore? Would they be in on an edge like
Speaker 1: a ziz ajulary. Because some of my top players are
Speaker 1: guys like Elijah Moore, Tevin Jenkins, Landon Dickerson. I don't
Speaker 1: know that those are trees they want to bark up.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, Dan, you want to help me
Speaker 1: try to narrow it down because I could go so
Speaker 1: many directions. And corner is so fascinating because after those
Speaker 1: first four guys, the four guys that were drafted last
Speaker 1: night with Certan Horn Farley and Greg Newsome, it's really
Speaker 1: anybody's guests which order each team has corners five through twelve.
Speaker 1: I mean, if Paulson Nadibo was the target, would that
Speaker 1: be completely shocking? Not really? You know, he's a quality player,
Speaker 1: He's a Day two player. And so when you look
Speaker 1: at guys like Tyson Campbell, if you have to Melofon,
Speaker 1: Aaron Robinson, Paulson, Nadibo Asante, Samuel. I mean there's so
Speaker 1: many names here at corner that if they love one
Speaker 1: of these guys above the rest, that that could be
Speaker 1: the target. We know they want to get upgrade the
Speaker 1: cornerback position, and if they feel like there's a gap
Speaker 1: between one of the guys, one of the corners that's
Speaker 1: left and then the rest of that group, I really
Speaker 1: feel like that could be the corner. We just it's
Speaker 1: it's hard to figure out who that is. We just
Speaker 1: don't have as many bread crumbs this year, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to figure out exactly who they're targeting. You have
Speaker 1: to we have to mention safety. No safety has been
Speaker 1: drafted up to this point. Travan marig is out there,
Speaker 1: Richie Grant, Javon Holland. I know there's some chatter about
Speaker 1: Javon Holland being taken very early. I know the Dolphins
Speaker 1: have their eye on him, So we can't rule out
Speaker 1: safety either. A defensive back makes the most sense, though,
Speaker 1: I think, right yeah, I'm just starting again. Well, you
Speaker 1: guys are talking and giving really great information. Atlanta is
Speaker 1: a team that's interested in moving. So if Dallas can
Speaker 1: get the thirty five. I did the quick math on that,
Speaker 1: likely going to have to part with one of those
Speaker 1: with one of those third round picks. You're seventy five,
Speaker 1: is we're two hundred and fifteen points, that's a way
Speaker 1: overpay you you're ninety You need ninety to get to
Speaker 1: them with your pick. So you're you're seventy five's were
Speaker 1: two fifteen. That's a way of an overpay. Eighty four
Speaker 1: is worth one seventy and ninety nine is worth one
Speaker 1: oh four. So if you can convince the Falcons, say
Speaker 1: at thirty five, to take that ninety nine from me,
Speaker 1: the third round pick that you that you you know
Speaker 1: that you have, maybe that could get you to the
Speaker 1: spot where you need to pick the guy I like
Speaker 1: all the names that you guys were talking about. Would
Speaker 1: you do it for eighty because it's not really yours anyway? No,
Speaker 1: you took it as a consolation prize for not getting
Speaker 1: what you wanted attend. If it helps you get one
Speaker 1: of those players that you guys mentioned. I think you
Speaker 1: app so. I think this is white Dallas. I think
Speaker 1: the Merrick thing, I think there's I think there's some
Speaker 1: some serious love there to that player, and I think
Speaker 1: that you know that the defensive back coach goes over there,
Speaker 1: he runs the workout and all that stuff. They're gonna
Speaker 1: know that guy. They're looking for a true free safety here, guys,
Speaker 1: they really really are. But you know again, it could
Speaker 1: be those cornerbacks too. I mean, they're just stacked in.
Speaker 1: There's so nicely for you, a couple of them on
Speaker 1: the shorter side if you put your board together, probably
Speaker 1: for you, great for them, not so much. I do
Speaker 1: think it's interesting, and you know, I guess the flip
Speaker 1: side of that, which is the side that me and
Speaker 1: Dane would probably prefers. There's been so much smoke about
Speaker 1: them maybe trying to trade that. I believe it. But
Speaker 1: last year, I don't remember who brought this up today,
Speaker 1: but they sat pat and let Treyvon Diggs just fall
Speaker 1: to him at fifty one and it looks like every
Speaker 1: good offensive tackle and this draft is still on the
Speaker 1: board heading into today. Jeremiah Woosu, Cormoa, Christian Barmore. These
Speaker 1: are guys you like, but not guys you need. Maybe
Speaker 1: they can just hang tight and let it fall their way.
Speaker 1: It didn't happen last night. It doesn't mean it can't
Speaker 1: happen to night. Yeah. What we need to know about
Speaker 1: Corey Moore is there's a there's a condition there, and
Speaker 1: it's it's more of a procedure than it is a
Speaker 1: something wrong with him. He has a cardiac workup that
Speaker 1: needs to be done on him. It's more lack of information. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the biggest problem. And if you talk to these
Speaker 1: scouts and ascue me, there's doctors and trainers around the league.
Speaker 1: They're saying, hey, no combine killed us. Right now, there's
Speaker 1: only eighty percent of this information that we have on
Speaker 1: these players. So this might be something that teams are
Speaker 1: holding on when you start talking about cardiac heart so
Speaker 1: we'll see. This is right around the moment when we
Speaker 1: were going to see that start coming into play last night.
Speaker 1: Whenever you have a first round grade on a player,
Speaker 1: you're not necessarily going to change that unless something major
Speaker 1: comes out of the medicals. It's right around this second
Speaker 1: third round where these are still premium picks, but you
Speaker 1: still have to know at least, like Brian said, one
Speaker 1: hundred percent of the medical information to feel good about
Speaker 1: those premium picks. Well, and if the Cowboys were eyeing secondary.
Speaker 1: I would and this is not an informed speculation, it's
Speaker 1: just my thought on the players, I would think that
Speaker 1: would be a safety. And that actually kind of makes
Speaker 1: it a challenge for me because I think they really
Speaker 1: do want a corner. And so if you start talking
Speaker 1: about packaging players and moving and giving guys up, because
Speaker 1: to me, it goes to what Dane is saying, like
Speaker 1: the order of the corners right now, I wouldn't want
Speaker 1: my team to be in a hurry to say I've
Speaker 1: got to have Tyson Campbell when let's say, for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys scheme, you want to fit Paulson, Nadibo, melafon Wu
Speaker 1: Tyson Campbell, like I got a few of them. So like,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be in a hurry to be so confident
Speaker 1: that I have the right order when there's so many
Speaker 1: people who have them in different orders that I need
Speaker 1: to jump to the front of the line to go
Speaker 1: get one of them. But I could see you thinking
Speaker 1: that about the safety. I could see you having a
Speaker 1: big time preference on the safeties a lot easier than
Speaker 1: the corners. Is that crazy? Well, but that's assuming that
Speaker 1: they like all these corners. You know, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: hard to say, because who knows, they might not be
Speaker 1: interested in some of these guys, whether it be Aaron
Speaker 1: Robinson or a Debo or you know, it's just hard
Speaker 1: to say. But I think that's a fair point in general,
Speaker 1: because the safeties are there fewer safeties in this draft
Speaker 1: that you feel are worthy of a top fifty pick,
Speaker 1: whereas corners, that's a position that's going to stretch, which
Speaker 1: I hate. I hate that I'm saying this because I
Speaker 1: want them to draft. I want them to draft a
Speaker 1: safety so bad, and there's so many ones that I
Speaker 1: like that are they can hang here. They could get
Speaker 1: Holland they could maybe you know, maybe they trade up
Speaker 1: for Mark or maybe maybe he falls, who knows, It's
Speaker 1: not out of the question. Richie Grant is one of
Speaker 1: everybody's one of their favorite players. Yeah, but I go
Speaker 1: back to twenty fourteen because I learned a valuable lesson
Speaker 1: that year from Brian brought us. They traded up for
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence, and I hate getting rid of picks, and
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, Trent Murphy was still there.
Speaker 1: Who else was still there in that draft? Stefan too,
Speaker 1: it was still there, Like all these guys were still
Speaker 1: what are they doing. Brian was like, DeMarcus Lawrence is
Speaker 1: the only one left that they thought could play right
Speaker 1: into this scheme. Sometimes your preference is right, and and
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, DeMarcus Lawrence worked out. But the point is,
Speaker 1: you see a list of ten guys, you're like, this
Speaker 1: cornerback class can stretch. They probably or might I don't
Speaker 1: want to say probably. They might see three guys. They're like,
Speaker 1: there are three guys that can play on the boundary
Speaker 1: in this scheme that we feel good about, and we
Speaker 1: can't afford to lose them. Okay, well, riddle me this
Speaker 1: because for me, the top guys available don't play the
Speaker 1: positions we're talking about. Like my top guys would be
Speaker 1: j ok adularry Landon Dickerson, Tevin Jenkins, Elijah Moore. Could
Speaker 1: the Cowboys stun you if they're trying to go up
Speaker 1: to get the highest rated player on the board, even
Speaker 1: if it's not one of the positions we're talking about.
Speaker 1: That's a fantastic question, and it's it's easy to fall
Speaker 1: in because I think, you know, last night with Kat
Speaker 1: we said like we beat it into the ground corner
Speaker 1: corner horns or tan horns or tan and so now
Speaker 1: we're sitting here. No, I don't want to say panic,
Speaker 1: but you just feel that need. And I wonder if
Speaker 1: they feel it too, or if it's just us, And
Speaker 1: I don't know the answer, because like, if I were
Speaker 1: talking about going back up at the very top of
Speaker 1: round two, I would be doing it for a first
Speaker 1: round grade. So, like, I think, what would be fun
Speaker 1: is go around the room. You have first round players left?
Speaker 1: Who are they? I do? I have two? I have
Speaker 1: a Coromoa and OJULARI would be my two guys left.
Speaker 1: Those are my two as well. Dane yep, same here, Dave.
Speaker 1: I mean I'll throw in Barmore. I know y'all hate him,
Speaker 1: but I don't, Okay. So that's just that's what I wonder.
Speaker 1: Would they be would they be trying to get up
Speaker 1: there for a guy at a position that they feel
Speaker 1: like they need and like, or would they be kind
Speaker 1: of in lockstep with Hey, guys, the two or three
Speaker 1: best players are these and they're there, let's go get them. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: it's interesting when you look at the guys that are left.
Speaker 1: There's usually a reason for it, you know, a Woosta Koramoa.
Speaker 1: Brian laid that out Audilari's got his own medical issues.
Speaker 1: Christian Barmore, he's got his own off field issues. Landon Dickerson,
Speaker 1: he's got medical concerns. Tevin Jenkins off field and medical concerns.
Speaker 1: H Own Zika at Washington, He's got a few medical things.
Speaker 1: So on and on and on. Each one of these
Speaker 1: players that are the quote unquote best available, there's something
Speaker 1: going on with each of them that are going to
Speaker 1: cause them to fall a little bit where that fall
Speaker 1: is going to end. As anybody's guests, do you think
Speaker 1: that that might play into the factor of the Cowboys
Speaker 1: may be jumping up because they're afraid that some of
Speaker 1: those guys with these big old question marks hovering over
Speaker 1: them are going to fall, and the players that they
Speaker 1: thought originally we're gonna be there at forty four might
Speaker 1: go a little bit early on here in this this
Speaker 1: second round. I'll tell you what happened last night. That
Speaker 1: was a big that was a big punch in the
Speaker 1: face of reality. You know, I don't know. I heard
Speaker 1: that was a top player on their broad Okay, he's yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not a good point, that's right, I mean, but
Speaker 1: that's but you also could you also hear that oh well, hey,
Speaker 1: well we would have taken one of the corners over
Speaker 1: him if that was the case. And so that was
Speaker 1: a that was a big, big gut punch last night
Speaker 1: to sit there and watch that happen right in front
Speaker 1: of you, and Stephen Jones, to his credit, laying chum
Speaker 1: in the water two three days before with Philadelphia, knowing
Speaker 1: how he wants to come up and get a wide receiver,
Speaker 1: because at seven thirty in the morning, he's trying to
Speaker 1: go up and get wattle, you know, but he has
Speaker 1: to settle with Smith, which is not a bad consolation
Speaker 1: prize by the way, But that was a big kick
Speaker 1: in the you know what. I've said it three different
Speaker 1: ways now, but that's that's what I want to shout out.
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer commend him for his honesty. He said today
Speaker 1: that they were heartbroken when someone was taken off the
Speaker 1: board right before they picked at twenty five. So he
Speaker 1: didn't try to hide it and say, oh, yeah, Travis
Speaker 1: etn was the next guy on our board, you know,
Speaker 1: the top player on our board. He was flat out
Speaker 1: said we were heartbroken. I don't he didn't say who,
Speaker 1: maybe Kadarius Tony went twenty, but he did not hide it,
Speaker 1: which I appreciate that honesty. Yeah, that's that's refreshing, because
Speaker 1: lord knows, you know, every guy they against the guy
Speaker 1: they wanted. You don't want to be the team sitting
Speaker 1: there with draft cappel and again I'm the guy also
Speaker 1: to the predict that they're gonna make all these picks
Speaker 1: because Steve Jones is telling me I got no money, Bros.
Speaker 1: I'm so I got no money. I gotta get all
Speaker 1: these young players to play, you know, but I want
Speaker 1: You don't want to be the team sitting there with
Speaker 1: all these picks and going, oh man, we're just letting
Speaker 1: him come off the board and we could have done
Speaker 1: something here, you know, Or you see somebody make a trade,
Speaker 1: you're like going, what are we doing? You know you
Speaker 1: don't want to be that team. Well, you also mentioned
Speaker 1: it a couple of moments ago, and my own only
Speaker 1: take one of those picks to get back up into
Speaker 1: the top thirty, to get into those those mid thirties picks.
Speaker 1: If you only take one of your eleven picks to
Speaker 1: do so, I don't think it's necessarily anything we could
Speaker 1: we could go against. If it's the Dallas Cowboys, let's
Speaker 1: go and take our first break before the first pick
Speaker 1: is in of the night. The pick is in, by
Speaker 1: the way from Jacksonville, who is on the clock to
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Speaker 1: have been with us from the beginning when we started
Speaker 1: the draft show back in December. So you've been around,
Speaker 1: You've you've seen the personalities back and forth. But Dane
Speaker 1: is the pick is in for Jacksonville pick number thirty
Speaker 1: three of the NFL Draft. Do you think it could
Speaker 1: be here? As Goodell walks to the stage, Tyson Campbell,
Speaker 1: that that was I heard that Jacksonville Jaguars liked him
Speaker 1: a lot. Uh. That makes the most sensere They could
Speaker 1: use a corner But there's a lot of players on
Speaker 1: the board here. They got plenty of calls too, and
Speaker 1: they turned down every one of those calls. So someone
Speaker 1: here that they really really like could be Tyson Campbell.
Speaker 1: By the way, we are not allowed to use the
Speaker 1: audio again from the NFL broadcast of the NFL Yes,
Speaker 1: we are okay, but we still can't use it. Apparently,
Speaker 1: cornerback Tyson Campbell out of Georgia, first pick off the board.
Speaker 1: I mentioned him earlier, and Dan, you were very quick
Speaker 1: to say he was going to be the first pick.
Speaker 1: It's what I heard. That's what I was told last night,
Speaker 1: and I was told this morning. Uh. It's funny. Uh.
Speaker 1: Soon after Tyson Campbell, the odds makers to go thirty
Speaker 1: three went from like plus seven hundred to minus two
Speaker 1: fifty or something, So you knew something was up. I
Speaker 1: just want to like, Jeff's over here dancing because the
Speaker 1: guy he doesn't like is off the board. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: already there. Tyson Campbell's a freaking good cornerback, man, I
Speaker 1: don't understand the hate. I like him more than Stokes,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I just think he looks natural.
Speaker 1: He got it in the sec week after we like,
Speaker 1: what do you want? I think he's more fluid than
Speaker 1: Stokes is, but Stokes got better results every week. And like,
Speaker 1: I think Campbell can be a good corner I don't
Speaker 1: think he is a good NFL quote. He didn't go
Speaker 1: in the top ten. He's a second round pick, I know.
Speaker 1: But he's my one, two, three, four or five six
Speaker 1: seventh corner left. So I didn't want the Cowboys to
Speaker 1: trade up for my seventh corner left because I'm more
Speaker 1: about me that We've been over this a million times.
Speaker 1: But that's the disconnect, because I don't care about me
Speaker 1: or you. Oh see, I'm in on me because if
Speaker 1: you don't care about you, nobody's going to that is
Speaker 1: that here on the draft A poster out of that
Speaker 1: on the wall, down to that point, Like I'm sure
Speaker 1: you have Asante Samuel over over him right here. Well,
Speaker 1: he's not. He won't be a Cowboys pick, So I
Speaker 1: just don't care. So that's a good question, though, Asante Samuel,
Speaker 1: it's been very quick, it's been very well documented that
Speaker 1: we're riding him off as a quote unquote Cowboys pick.
Speaker 1: I am, I don't want. You're not alone in that
Speaker 1: regard though, because of the way that he fits into
Speaker 1: what could be the Dan Quinn system. However, if he's
Speaker 1: a slot corner, could you use him there? If you
Speaker 1: thought he was better than Jordan Lewis, could you use
Speaker 1: him in that scenario? Because he is a little shorter,
Speaker 1: but he's quick enough. I can play out something. I mean,
Speaker 1: I could play him outside. I just what bothers me
Speaker 1: is that the Cowboys tell us it's player over scheme,
Speaker 1: and then we write off a bunch of players because
Speaker 1: of this because of its game. So I just I
Speaker 1: just went consistency. There is that a scheme thing? Or listen,
Speaker 1: I get like I've watched Asante Samuel's tape. He's really
Speaker 1: good and he did it on the outside in a
Speaker 1: major college conference, which you know, Florida State certainly fits
Speaker 1: the parameters of the schools they look at. But it's
Speaker 1: still I think it's more of just a philosophy thing
Speaker 1: in a scheme thing of like if you're a certain size,
Speaker 1: then you don't have a certain reach, you can't do
Speaker 1: certain things. I don't know if that's scheme. The first
Speaker 1: pick of the twenty twenty one second round of the
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, Tyson Campbell, goes to the Jacksonville Jaguars, the
Speaker 1: cornerback out of George As. We welcome you back into
Speaker 1: our coverage here on one oh five three the Fan
Speaker 1: and Dallas Cowboys dot Com and Dan We just mentioned
Speaker 1: a couple of moments ago. But what kind of player
Speaker 1: are the Jaguars getting with that first pick of the draft?
Speaker 1: Size speed talk about how you draw up the cornerback position.
Speaker 1: He is what it looks like at least, just you know,
Speaker 1: going out there and being an athlete. The big reason
Speaker 1: why he's still available here is he really struggles to
Speaker 1: find the football and make plays on the football. It's
Speaker 1: it's and that's something that you talk to. Some coaches,
Speaker 1: they'll say, we can coach him to be better in
Speaker 1: that area. Other coaches will tell you either you have
Speaker 1: it or you don't. And I would say. The one
Speaker 1: thing about Tyson Campbell that I liked about him is
Speaker 1: he was consistently in phase where you know, SEC quarterbacks
Speaker 1: did not hesitate to throw at him, but he was
Speaker 1: always in phase. It wasn't like he was off balance
Speaker 1: and just looked out of control out there. He was
Speaker 1: in phase. He just couldn't finish And so I understand
Speaker 1: why he is the pick here. And Jaguars they want
Speaker 1: to get better at corner. They drafted CJ. Henderson in
Speaker 1: the first round last year. They go back to the
Speaker 1: SEC for another corner this year with Tyson Campbell. Understand
Speaker 1: you know Urban Meyer, he wants speed and they get
Speaker 1: a lot of it here with Campbell and Kavadaugh. This
Speaker 1: is one of your guys that at least were a
Speaker 1: Cowboys target, but not necessarily one that you were very
Speaker 1: high on. Yeah, and it's pretty much exactly what Dane
Speaker 1: is saying, like, I'm a big fan of the guys
Speaker 1: who as a cornerback. The ball is in the air,
Speaker 1: now what, And if the answer to now what is
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find it and I'm gonna make a play,
Speaker 1: You're kind of my guy. And if that's not the answer,
Speaker 1: then I'm scared. So that's the sort of player that
Speaker 1: I didn't want to see the Cowboys give up an
Speaker 1: additional pick to go pursue. I would rather say, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's see what's going to happen with these corners for
Speaker 1: another minute. Let's let it play out for a second.
Speaker 1: And if you end up scrambling with the last guy
Speaker 1: that you think because a fit like what happened with
Speaker 1: Tank Lawrence, go get him. Um that's just not the
Speaker 1: guy that I wanted to do it for. And so
Speaker 1: I hope he plays well in Jacksonville because I cheer
Speaker 1: for everybody. Guys. Guys, Dallas is going to own Atlanta's
Speaker 1: pick here. So they got in at thirty five. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know the particulars of what happened with the trade,
Speaker 1: but we'll we'll get him here. We've got You've got
Speaker 1: the Jets still ahead, but Dallas has convinced the Atlanta
Speaker 1: Falcons to that we need your pick, so we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens as we get there. I'm not I'm I'm
Speaker 1: dumb a lot, and I'm wrong a lot. But I
Speaker 1: love I love feeling smart and right. It is a
Speaker 1: fantastic feel. Okay, now I just got another text says
Speaker 1: they just backed out. Oh okay, why we use a pencil?
Speaker 1: All right, let's just this. Yeah, I'm dealing with I'm
Speaker 1: dealing with a bunch of teams. Got a couple of
Speaker 1: sources going on. Yeah, I got a couple of sources.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Brian's a busy guy. Right as I start
Speaker 1: to reach to pat myself on the backs away from you,
Speaker 1: you were actually in motion fel good about himself. Never mind, Honestly,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't, you know, not to I don't want to
Speaker 1: sound too self important, but I wouldn't be surprised by
Speaker 1: the way. The Jets have just made their selection at
Speaker 1: thirty four. Wide receiver Elijah Moore out of Old miss
Speaker 1: is the second player off the board here in the
Speaker 1: second round of the draft. Really good wide receiver, and Jeff,
Speaker 1: I know you were mentioning him a couple of moments
Speaker 1: ago as well. They just said Dallas backed out, So okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: they backed out Elijah Moore. Yeah, he was my fourth
Speaker 1: favorite wide receiver in this draft, and I kind of
Speaker 1: thought he would go in the first round. I love
Speaker 1: Elijah Moore. I think there's elements when you watch him
Speaker 1: run routes that are almost Antonio brownish, and he's got
Speaker 1: four three speed and he has incredible production in the SEC.
Speaker 1: I think Elijah Moore is a really really good player
Speaker 1: at a premium position. So I think that that is
Speaker 1: a great pick. I feel really weird about how much
Speaker 1: I like what the Jets are doing. Three really good pigs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: good point. I mean, Joe Douglas knows what he's doing.
Speaker 1: And you know, you look at what they did last
Speaker 1: year in the first round with McKay Beckton. Then this
Speaker 1: year they get Elijah vera tucker that's the left side
Speaker 1: of their line for the next ten years. It looks
Speaker 1: pretty good. And then you add a weapon like Elijah Moore,
Speaker 1: who Jamison Crowder maybe a June first cut. You got
Speaker 1: Corey Davis and Denzel Mims on the outside, Elijah Moore
Speaker 1: on the inside. Hey, Zach Wilson, Uh, not not a
Speaker 1: bad start there for you. In New York, roll left,
Speaker 1: you know, shuffle left in the pocket and then get
Speaker 1: the ball out Brian kind of going off of what
Speaker 1: what was reported initially. And then of course, like you said,
Speaker 1: Dallas backing out, word coming down or at least rumor
Speaker 1: that they wanted Tyson Campbell there, Yeah, there's a penchantial
Speaker 1: that they wanted Campbell and with him off the board,
Speaker 1: is it possible that it's back on? Brian? Is it
Speaker 1: Schefter just tweetstrating out, Oh, they're trading maybe so they
Speaker 1: might not be else. I wonder if they got a
Speaker 1: better off. That's a good point. This is crazy. Oh,
Speaker 1: back and forth. So Atlanta is out, that's that's big
Speaker 1: report is out, So that would be the next pick.
Speaker 1: So they have they have already said to the Jets,
Speaker 1: at least on the NFL broadcast, that Elijah Moore is
Speaker 1: the pick. But nobody's moved on and that's probably for
Speaker 1: good reason. They're trying to figure out who they just
Speaker 1: traded out too well. And Elijah Moore was the highest,
Speaker 1: my highest graded player still available that didn't have one
Speaker 1: of those off field or medical issues you know we
Speaker 1: went through. Was that clean, very clean player aside from
Speaker 1: what happened at UH in the Egg Bowl two years ago. Iconic,
Speaker 1: Oh did he do the fire hydrant thing? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: should have moved him up to wide receiver three. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's great. So yeah, that's the extent of it. And
Speaker 1: then you can feel pretty good about Elijah Moore. By
Speaker 1: the way, the pick is in at thirty five and
Speaker 1: it was the Denver Broncos. Wow, just a team of
Speaker 1: the d Denver's just out to ruin Dallas, Alas strapped
Speaker 1: all the way. From far did they come up? They
Speaker 1: went from him forty I assume, right if they gave
Speaker 1: that up. Yeah, that's okay. So if you're Atlanta, you're thinking,
Speaker 1: and I'm not falling as far back to forty four,
Speaker 1: I can fall back to forty and still get a
Speaker 1: third round pick, and then I can trade back to
Speaker 1: forty four if Dallas this guy makes it to me
Speaker 1: and I can get more get back up to forty three. Maybe.
Speaker 1: How often, Brian you you spent some time in war rooms.
Speaker 1: How often does stuff like that? That was a lot
Speaker 1: of fun? How often? How often does that happen? Where
Speaker 1: it happens? Yeah, it just gets completely Yeah, all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, you're on the phone and you're like, thinking,
Speaker 1: we got a deal and you want us to turn
Speaker 1: the card in and they're like, no, we just lost
Speaker 1: our guy. We'll catch you another time, and you're like damn,
Speaker 1: and you hang up the phone and you're starting like
Speaker 1: who else we got on the phone. Oh so, so
Speaker 1: do we wonder it was it maybe Campbell? They thought
Speaker 1: they were they were going up to try to get
Speaker 1: Cambell and then he got picked. That would make sense, Okay,
Speaker 1: So yeah, either that or like you said, Denver came
Speaker 1: up and put him put an offer on the table
Speaker 1: that was better. We'll see what the what the compensation
Speaker 1: is here in a couple of moments. But there's a
Speaker 1: good chance that hey, maybe it is maybe Denver wanted
Speaker 1: to go up and get one of these guys. Who
Speaker 1: could this be for Denver? Though, Dane, if you're looking
Speaker 1: and trading up from forty to thirty five, it has
Speaker 1: to be a pretty select few individuals that they'd be
Speaker 1: interested in, right. Yeah, let's look at the needs chart
Speaker 1: here for Denver, um you're looking at. Here's here's the compensation.
Speaker 1: By the way, Denver gives up thirty, gets thirty fifth,
Speaker 1: they give up a six round pick as well. Uh,
Speaker 1: and then Atlanta has forty and they receive a fourth
Speaker 1: which is one fourteen from Denver. So all this year
Speaker 1: in this trade. At the moment, I think Denver's top
Speaker 1: three knees right now quarterback, right tackle, and linebacker Jenkins.
Speaker 1: Could this be Mills, a Wooskoramoa? Yeah, I mean quarterback. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it could be where we see the quarterback where I mean,
Speaker 1: you would think the would have taken fields at nine,
Speaker 1: right if they really wanted a quarterback that badly. Listen
Speaker 1: to the George Patton talk about that he was adamant
Speaker 1: about keeping that certan pick. That was one that he
Speaker 1: didn't even tell his scouts or anything that what he
Speaker 1: was doing. So yeah, I mean, when you've got a
Speaker 1: cornerback available, you just you can't pick a quarterback. It
Speaker 1: would just be an all play. I just can't worry
Speaker 1: about that need. So the pick is in, the Broncos
Speaker 1: are about to select it, and with the thirty fifth
Speaker 1: pick in the NFL Draft, the Broncos select I'm gonna
Speaker 1: time this out right today at some point, Dave. I
Speaker 1: was really bad at last week. You'll get it on
Speaker 1: fifth last. It was last night. S See, it's been
Speaker 1: that kind of You're not inspiring confidence, not even a
Speaker 1: little bit. Well, the problem is you never know when
Speaker 1: they got to read running back Williams out of North Carolina,
Speaker 1: a Miami smart. Nothing like giving up picks for a
Speaker 1: running back. Dane nothing like it. Well, I mean I
Speaker 1: think there's a pretty big drop off. I mean, we
Speaker 1: you know, you think of Naja Harris, Travis etn and
Speaker 1: then Javonte Williams, and then there's a little bit of
Speaker 1: a drop off before you get to that next guy,
Speaker 1: whether it's Gainwell or Michael Carter or Trey Sermon. So, uh,
Speaker 1: but you're here, you're looking at Denver. Uh. They got
Speaker 1: rid of who's our Colorado running back, your boy Philip Lindsay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Philip Lindsay got rid of him. So you know they
Speaker 1: had a need there. Melvin Gordon really hasn't worked out
Speaker 1: the way they thought, so I can understand why they
Speaker 1: want to get better running back. I'm gonna stand on
Speaker 1: the table for the old Krusties and say, that's a
Speaker 1: small price to pay for a first round, arguably caliber
Speaker 1: running back, like a fourth round pick. Really, come on,
Speaker 1: you're right, I've just swung so far on my pick,
Speaker 1: just like it's possible to still think running back is
Speaker 1: a valuable position, like yeah, absolutely, And I get it,
Speaker 1: Like I running backs don't matter is more of a
Speaker 1: catchphrase than anything, and I understand the logic of it.
Speaker 1: I'd rather have a good one than a bad one.
Speaker 1: If you told me if I can get Javonte Williams
Speaker 1: for a fourth round pick and steal him from Miami,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm in if I if I need one obvious,
Speaker 1: is there any chance that he's better than the guys
Speaker 1: that were picked ahead of him at n He's not
Speaker 1: the first person that suggested that. I mean, I'm just
Speaker 1: I but I have him behind the other two. Don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong on that. I just wonder if that's
Speaker 1: one of those situations where this kid you watch him
Speaker 1: play man, I mean, he he's pretty special carrying the ball.
Speaker 1: I think when you watch the way he goes down hill,
Speaker 1: he attacks, he's a hard guy to tackle. I mean,
Speaker 1: guys bounce off him and stuff like that. So you know,
Speaker 1: good for good for Denver to make that happen. They
Speaker 1: I mean, they go up and they steal the Cowboys
Speaker 1: draft or at least early on and take Patrick's or
Speaker 1: ten at nine, and then they get Javonte Williams. Here
Speaker 1: in the early parts, it's pretty good. One two punched
Speaker 1: there a little bit impact on both sides of the
Speaker 1: football for the Denver Broncos. Once again, it was two
Speaker 1: nineteen that the Broncos got from Atlanta, and then it
Speaker 1: was the fourth round pick that Atlanta received for Denver
Speaker 1: that was at one fourteen, and now the Falcons will
Speaker 1: pick a little bit further back at forty. So on
Speaker 1: the clock. Now the Miami Dolphins, Dane, you said that
Speaker 1: you thought it might have been Javonte Williams, the running
Speaker 1: back going this direction. Where do they pivot too? Now?
Speaker 1: They really need a right tackle. Uh, you know Tevin Jenkins.
Speaker 1: How do they feel about him? Could that be a
Speaker 1: fit here? That that's a possibility. They we talked about
Speaker 1: maybe going linebacker in the first round, so or Usukuromo.
Speaker 1: I feel like we're gonna be naming a lot of
Speaker 1: these same names as we go through here in the
Speaker 1: first half of the second round. Some of these talented players,
Speaker 1: Uh that that could be there for them, not not
Speaker 1: cause me. Uh maybe Richie Grant. They can use more
Speaker 1: safety help a Santy Samuel another corner. Can I ask
Speaker 1: you about cause me? When you got you see a
Speaker 1: knee bender there at all? I see a good I
Speaker 1: could see a good athlete. And that's thatcher. He's got
Speaker 1: a shorter armed guy, Okay, and that and that is
Speaker 1: something that you see for sure. Yeah, all right, he's
Speaker 1: not a road. I appreciate you confirming my belief there.
Speaker 1: Thank you for doing it. Who did we mocked to
Speaker 1: in our our mock draft? This was a Javante Williams
Speaker 1: that we mocked to Miami here, so it could end
Speaker 1: up being a tackled running backs pretty much off the table.
Speaker 1: It's the Dolphins, the Eagles, the Bengals than the Panthers.
Speaker 1: The next four picks. Oh that's wow. Holland safety out
Speaker 1: of Oregon as the selection for Jeff got real happy
Speaker 1: right there. Wow, I know wait, okay, which I know
Speaker 1: you're You're not the only person. You don't think he
Speaker 1: can cover? No, I think he can. I just like
Speaker 1: other safeties better. And I kept hearing that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: were interested in Javon Holland and it was gonna it
Speaker 1: was gonna hurt me if they picked Javon Holland with
Speaker 1: like Richie Grant. They want to believe me, we gotta
Speaker 1: fight on it before a show today. Well, no, because
Speaker 1: I felt like Brian was talking about Holland and I
Speaker 1: was like, wait, you have Grant higher. But but I
Speaker 1: was trying to I was, you're right. I was trying
Speaker 1: to tell you who I thought they were gonna take
Speaker 1: right and and I want the NFL to help them
Speaker 1: not take the guys I don't want them to take.
Speaker 1: So I appreciate the Miami Dolphins doing that, just taking
Speaker 1: him off the table before you even have to make
Speaker 1: a decision. I think it's Jeff's cheering for I'm not
Speaker 1: saying I'm here for me, Dave Javon. Holland's not my
Speaker 1: favorite player in this class, but I think I got
Speaker 1: so excited, like there's so much smoke that they might
Speaker 1: actually draft to say that. I'm just like, if you'll
Speaker 1: just do it, I'll take what I can get. Did
Speaker 1: you think, like if you're just willing to spend the pick, fine,
Speaker 1: I don't care. Did you think Dallas like Holland over
Speaker 1: merrig Or Grant? I think Merik is their favorite. I
Speaker 1: think they like I think they like talland more than
Speaker 1: they like Richie Grant. You think so? I mean, again,
Speaker 1: to Dane's point, we have fewer bet breadcump crumbs than
Speaker 1: we ever have. Let's get picked, then let's go ahead,
Speaker 1: and I mean to bring Richie Grant. I do like
Speaker 1: American Richie Grant. Are back to back is opening for
Speaker 1: people to be gone. I always at the point of
Speaker 1: the draft, it's actually I don't want it actually happens
Speaker 1: in war rooms where you're like, oh, please let them
Speaker 1: take that guy, let them tell oh, yes, okay, yeah
Speaker 1: that was throw Oh no, a safety's gone, and you
Speaker 1: fist pump your buddy under the table, like, not my safety,
Speaker 1: though I hope he has a great career, though, I
Speaker 1: cheer for everybody. That's how we kind of that's how
Speaker 1: we think of ourselves here is as a mini war room.
Speaker 1: So there's a little bit of fist. I don't think
Speaker 1: you're very good, but now that you're not my problem,
Speaker 1: good Dane. Put him in order. Just your order, Richie,
Speaker 1: Grant Mary and Holland right there. Okay, so we're fist bumping.
Speaker 1: You say, Grant Mary Holland, that's my personal order. Yes,
Speaker 1: I went, I went, Grant Holland, Holland, I went mine.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my thing. But they're all the same,
Speaker 1: they're all in the same right there, they're on the
Speaker 1: same round. Has anybody like we've we've heard so many
Speaker 1: links to Merrick, We've heard links to Holland. Do we
Speaker 1: have an inkling of an idea of what these guys
Speaker 1: think about Richie Grant. That's why they're gonna take it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I hope you're right. They only had one
Speaker 1: zoom call with Michael Parsons and the head coach wasn't
Speaker 1: on it, so who knows. That's not an Indica trying
Speaker 1: to reach out. I got a no comment on him Grant. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe that means they love him. Confirmed Lijah Molden at safety.
Speaker 1: We got, we got some guys. We're creeping up on
Speaker 1: forty four boys. We're doing great, So there are some
Speaker 1: really good players still available to hated Philadelphia Eagles are
Speaker 1: on the clock at the moment. We're gonna step aside
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Speaker 1: in Javon Holland, just off the board to the Miami
Speaker 1: Dolphins at thirty six. At thirty seven, the Eagles than
Speaker 1: the Bengals, than the Panthers, picking back to back to back. Eagles,
Speaker 1: of course got their wide receivers, yet got got their
Speaker 1: wide receiver rather yesterday. Dane. Do you think there's a
Speaker 1: chance that, uh, they go offensive side of the football
Speaker 1: here they go try and find one of those corners. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we know they want to get better at corner, so
Speaker 1: maybe this is where we start to see another one
Speaker 1: of those runs. But I don't have to go there.
Speaker 1: You know, they don't have to go corner when I
Speaker 1: think that they feel like the whole board is open
Speaker 1: to them. Creed Humphrey at center as a possibility here
Speaker 1: they could address the offensive line. They're always looking for
Speaker 1: pass rushers. I really think the Eagles are wide open
Speaker 1: with this pick. If it was if it was an
Speaker 1: offensive lineman here, who do you think it would be?
Speaker 1: Do you think it would be like Jenkins? Jenkins would
Speaker 1: be my best Landon Dickerson? Why is he? Why is
Speaker 1: he still here? Dylan Redunds, Uh, Tevin Jenkins? What's going on?
Speaker 1: I know his shoulder was flagged and you know, just
Speaker 1: uh some Scott's voice, some concerns about just uh, you know,
Speaker 1: him being good. No, more just football character stuff. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: leave it at that, all right? Too mean to people
Speaker 1: on the fields. Just watching the tape, you wouldn't expect that,
Speaker 1: yahause he plays with his hair on fire, and you
Speaker 1: know he's a he's a bully. Who's your top interior
Speaker 1: lineman right now? Why Davis Landon Dickers He's a first
Speaker 1: round talent. It just comes down to the medicals and
Speaker 1: are you comfortable with his injury history? But just based
Speaker 1: on talent, based on character, easily landed Dickerson. He was
Speaker 1: like my number twenty one overall player. Can he play guard? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Where I think he's best? Okay, And I think that
Speaker 1: he should be in consideration for the Cowboys. When we
Speaker 1: were competing with the Connors and with Beta, they didn't
Speaker 1: want to take one the best guards last night. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well you know that Michael Parsons was at the top
Speaker 1: of their board. That's true, number one overall player or whatever.
Speaker 1: The only thing they actually tipped was when McCarthy said
Speaker 1: that they wanted to draft an offensive lineman this weekend.
Speaker 1: So maybe you'll get your wish. Yeah maybe so. Landon
Speaker 1: Dickerson is the only player in this draft who has
Speaker 1: at least one start at all five offensive line positions
Speaker 1: in college, and he's got to be one of the
Speaker 1: only guys in this draft who's had every college season
Speaker 1: end with the season ending injury. But I love, Yeah,
Speaker 1: tape is awesome. His tape is awesome. I would love
Speaker 1: to disagree with you. The Eagle selection is in it.
Speaker 1: How about center Landed Dickerson out of Alabama. That's a
Speaker 1: really good pick. I think is he going to play
Speaker 1: center or guard for Philadelphia? We just talked about it
Speaker 1: and maybe he your guard. Yeah, well, when Kelsey retires,
Speaker 1: you can move into I mean that's the beauty of
Speaker 1: Landon Dickerson is you don't have to, you know, absolutely
Speaker 1: put him here or there. He can play across the
Speaker 1: interior maybe. I mean he's six six three three twenty.
Speaker 1: I mean he can play probably outside if you wanted
Speaker 1: him too. They list him as a center. It looks
Speaker 1: like they're on the on the board. I think that's
Speaker 1: what he was officially listed as. Yeah, I'm sure, but
Speaker 1: like I said, he started all across the offensive line,
Speaker 1: and I think he's actually best at guard. Not many
Speaker 1: six six centers in the NFL. It's kind of rare.
Speaker 1: It used to be a tall center was a bad center.
Speaker 1: It used to be that way because when you start
Speaker 1: talking about like at least lineman getting underneath you and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. But these these tall guys are playing
Speaker 1: pretty well. This This one's fun man because he's a
Speaker 1: bully too, Like Landon Dickerson might have had more cleanups
Speaker 1: than anybody else that I studied, where it's like it's
Speaker 1: pass protection and if you're rushing against a guard but
Speaker 1: there's nobody over the center, you should probably have your
Speaker 1: head on a swivel because you're about to get dump trucked.
Speaker 1: Like Landon Dickerson likes nothing better than to put you
Speaker 1: on your hind quarters. So with Landon Dickerson here, the
Speaker 1: pick of Christian Barmore to the Cowboys at forty four
Speaker 1: is confirmed. Right, that's what's happening, because it's just gonna
Speaker 1: be like them practice to go against each other. I
Speaker 1: was gonna, I mean, it's Tuscaloosa North up there in
Speaker 1: Philly right now, and might as well. That's true. Back
Speaker 1: to back Alabama players going to Philadelphia in this draft.
Speaker 1: That's two really good picks for the Eagles, And I
Speaker 1: hate saying that, I really do you didn't have to
Speaker 1: say it. But there's a reason Dickerson felt a little
Speaker 1: bit is because the injury history is vast, uh and
Speaker 1: that's something that will be uh, you know, something we
Speaker 1: have to watch and hopefully you can stay on the
Speaker 1: field because he's just a good player and he's he's
Speaker 1: the type of player that you love to have on
Speaker 1: your team, but you hate him when he's an opponent
Speaker 1: because he will just not let up. And the football
Speaker 1: intelligence is off the charts. So I got we we've
Speaker 1: skipped over it. But New England has traded into this
Speaker 1: spot since he's fallen back to yeah, forty six, and
Speaker 1: so New England's and I mean they already made their pick.
Speaker 1: So thirty eight overall is what New England gets. Sinnati
Speaker 1: gets forty six and the fourth round picks one, twenty
Speaker 1: two and one thirty. That is not a lot for
Speaker 1: an eight spot jump, by the way, your team's trying
Speaker 1: to do it here back here at the twenty twenty
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Speaker 1: We had a couple of picks come out across the
Speaker 1: board after Javon Holland flew off the board to Miami
Speaker 1: Landon Dickerson, the center slash offensive lineman out of Alabama,
Speaker 1: goes to Philadelphia as the Eagles take the second straight
Speaker 1: Alabama Crimson Tide player. And now the Bengals were originally
Speaker 1: on the clock, but instead the New England Patriots trade
Speaker 1: up with a couple of fourth round picks and they
Speaker 1: select Alabama defensive tackle Christian Barmore, another Cowboys target off
Speaker 1: the board here over the last couple of minutes, Brian,
Speaker 1: is that one hurt a little bit just because you
Speaker 1: might have hoped he fell to forty four. I kind
Speaker 1: of heard you have to hold his hand as a player,
Speaker 1: and there were some some things like that. You know,
Speaker 1: they have a big support staff there at Alabama, and
Speaker 1: so he was a guy. Though they got him around,
Speaker 1: he wasn't a starter. You watch some tape at him,
Speaker 1: and he's not actually starting in the game. It's the
Speaker 1: last three or four games you watch. You're like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's this kid. Oh I get it now. So yeah,
Speaker 1: but you talk about Nick Saban has a great relationship
Speaker 1: with Bill Belichick, though they'll know all about the kid,
Speaker 1: you know, and obviously New England feel like that they
Speaker 1: can reach him. If he plays like he did those
Speaker 1: last several games, then the Patriots should look really smart here.
Speaker 1: This is oh sorry, he just a guy that hates
Speaker 1: to be blocked. I mean you watch him over the
Speaker 1: second half of the season, and just as the Ohio
Speaker 1: State Notre Dame, the two teams at Alabama played in
Speaker 1: the playoff, a guy that was just unblockable at times.
Speaker 1: And you know he was. He was my top defensive
Speaker 1: tackle in this in the summer, and it was all
Speaker 1: based on traits because he, you know, was not a
Speaker 1: full time starter. Yet in the first half of the year,
Speaker 1: you got I was kind of worried, like, Okay, this
Speaker 1: does not look like the guy that I studied over
Speaker 1: the summer, And in the back half of twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: he just turned it on and was unblockable. So a
Speaker 1: really good player. And that's a great point with the
Speaker 1: save in Belichick connection the questions. Belichick made this move
Speaker 1: with the answers that he wanted to some of those questions,
Speaker 1: and you know that the intel is good with that relationship.
Speaker 1: This goes back to my point about Richie Grant, which
Speaker 1: it's kind of subjective, but I haven't gotten the sense
Speaker 1: recently maybe if he fell into their labs at forty four,
Speaker 1: they would draft him. But I don't get the sense
Speaker 1: that this was like a guy that the Cowboys super coveted,
Speaker 1: do you know? Yeah, I don't think, And I think
Speaker 1: there are other d tackles they like a lot more
Speaker 1: that they could get later tonight or maybe tomorrow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I would think, And it depends because I
Speaker 1: don't know exactly how they feel about a rotation of
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill and Nevill gal More, but maybe they like that.
Speaker 1: And if they do, then what you're really looking for
Speaker 1: is I know, Barmore's three hundred and ten pounds, but
Speaker 1: to me, he's not a one technique. He's more of
Speaker 1: an attacker. At Alabama, they weren't putting him on the
Speaker 1: field rundowns. They were putting him into rush the passer.
Speaker 1: So I think, if I'm the Cowboys, I'll just watch
Speaker 1: the defensive tackle thing play out and maybe, if you
Speaker 1: like Levi owns Rique enough, you could pop him at
Speaker 1: forty four. But I might just wait until later to
Speaker 1: try to get one of the big boys. I think
Speaker 1: they're looking for a trash can full of dirt to
Speaker 1: steal Brian's favorite catchphrase. Great catchphrase though, there's a couple
Speaker 1: of them in this draft. Though, I'll tear cans full
Speaker 1: of dirt. Yeah, that kid McNeil, he's breathing the same
Speaker 1: air as the center he's at close to. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's incredible how close he's. Super spreader. Event in there
Speaker 1: got the Bears drafting Tevin Jenkins. Who's That's who I
Speaker 1: had the Bears drafting in my final mock draft in
Speaker 1: the first round. So pretty good value here to get
Speaker 1: him in a second. And you know, we just laid
Speaker 1: out the concerns with Tevin Jenkins. But on the field,
Speaker 1: I mean usually when you hear blocked a guy off
Speaker 1: the screen, usually that's just kind of hyperbole. And you know,
Speaker 1: just to give you a visual, No, you watch watch
Speaker 1: him against Joseph Osai and he literally blocks him off
Speaker 1: the screen. He's gonna be a plug and play right
Speaker 1: tackle for the Bears. I'm such a sucker for a
Speaker 1: pairing like you draft Justin Fields on Thursday and draft
Speaker 1: this guy on Friday. I love that. Who took the
Speaker 1: drafting away from Matt Naggie or from Ryan Pitt right,
Speaker 1: Like what I mean, it's like the Bears and the Jets.
Speaker 1: I love what they're doing, and I'm not used to
Speaker 1: saying that changing narratives. I really wanted Tevin Jenkins to
Speaker 1: be a raven, but just well, because you know, you
Speaker 1: got a quarterback run threat. You're just doing so much
Speaker 1: power and you just put Tevin Jenkins in there and
Speaker 1: you're like, hey, go move people, because that's the sort
Speaker 1: of dude that he is where it's just like, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna beat you up and we're gonna go over
Speaker 1: here for a while, and then I'm gonna meet you
Speaker 1: back at the line of scrimmage on the next play
Speaker 1: and we're gonna do it again. He's just he's so
Speaker 1: much fun to watch. They traded up for Justin Fields
Speaker 1: in the first round and they were able to keep
Speaker 1: the second round pick, and that was so big because
Speaker 1: you're able to get a right tackle like this, who
Speaker 1: you He's gonna be the starter in the season opener.
Speaker 1: So that was a really shrewd move by Ryan Pace,
Speaker 1: which are words I don't think I've ever said. Before.
Speaker 1: Oh shots, fine, talk get Fields? Is that what you're saying.
Speaker 1: I'm saying they went to go get Fields and they
Speaker 1: didn't give up a second round pick, this pick that
Speaker 1: they're able to turn into Tevin Jenkins, which is an
Speaker 1: impressive move. Now they gave up next year's one, obviously,
Speaker 1: but still, let me ask you this trying to save
Speaker 1: your job? Is that is that is that when you're
Speaker 1: giving up next year's one and you're a general managers
Speaker 1: got wouldn't foot in the parking lot with the U
Speaker 1: haul out there? You know? I saw one of the
Speaker 1: one of the big networks was talking about like this
Speaker 1: is the guy they love, this is they just felt
Speaker 1: a certain way about Justin Fields. I'm like, maybe, but also,
Speaker 1: don't they know they're all fired if they don't hit
Speaker 1: on somebody else's fault or somebody else's problem. I saw
Speaker 1: that line from you last night. Yeah, by the way,
Speaker 1: the Bears traded up for this picky to get in front,
Speaker 1: or they traded with Carolina to get this pick. I'm
Speaker 1: still looking for what the compensation was. Nobody actually assumed
Speaker 1: talking about two and then something because that's where Chicago's
Speaker 1: where they were. So they've traded up twice. Now, they
Speaker 1: traded up to get Justin Fields, and then, like Dane said,
Speaker 1: they didn't take their second round pick away that fifty two,
Speaker 1: which is of course premium enough to get up and
Speaker 1: make a trade to get Tevin Jenkins. So all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, the Bears, after making the playoffs, now have
Speaker 1: a seemingly found their quarterback, seemingly found their offensive tackle,
Speaker 1: and at least at the moment, doesn't look like they've
Speaker 1: really given up a whole lot to do so. No,
Speaker 1: I know it sounds like I'm beating up Brian pace,
Speaker 1: but the reason the Bears are where they are is
Speaker 1: because they've missed on a lot of those early picks.
Speaker 1: First round, second round, and you know time will tell,
Speaker 1: but it's justin fields and Tevin Jenkins could absolutely not
Speaker 1: work out. But I think where we are right now,
Speaker 1: there's at least some optimism with both of those selections.
Speaker 1: For Chicago. The Falcons pick is in. It's Falcons Lions,
Speaker 1: Giants forty nine ers and then the Dallas Cowboys at
Speaker 1: forty four. Goodell is at the stand right now. I'm
Speaker 1: sure he's about to announce the Falcons selection after this.
Speaker 1: I kind of want to get a heartbeat, kind of
Speaker 1: feel where we're standing whenever it comes to the Cowboys selection,
Speaker 1: because I mean, we're getting down to the wires. It'll
Speaker 1: probably happen close to the top of the hour, whenever
Speaker 1: the Cowboys selection comes down. And Goodelle taking his time
Speaker 1: at the stands here with the Falcon selection and he's clapping, Oh,
Speaker 1: we're probably intro and somebody we're probably doing a bit.
Speaker 1: Oh you think so. We love doing the bits. We
Speaker 1: love doing the bits. Make the pick round, Well, it
Speaker 1: might be a round the way to these. It could
Speaker 1: be for the first responders day. I run the risk
Speaker 1: of saying something insensitive, but I can't wait till it's
Speaker 1: like the end of the safety Richie Grant out of
Speaker 1: the University of Central Florida goes off the board at
Speaker 1: forty and Atlanta breaks your heart again. That's okay. Now
Speaker 1: we're on travon merriag watch, because now they're thinning the
Speaker 1: herd on you. Now we're on merriage Watch. Can he
Speaker 1: slip four more spots? Or do you just wait a
Speaker 1: couple more rounds? Mighty mouse, let's look at it. Lea
Speaker 1: owns a reque still out there, and I think that's
Speaker 1: a player. This team could be interested in a lot
Speaker 1: of tackles too, And could you be tempted by best
Speaker 1: player available? Depending on the medicals on ja Oka orlry Right.
Speaker 1: Only one corner off the boards so far in this round,
Speaker 1: being Tyson Campbell, So you know they've plenty of options
Speaker 1: here with which direction they want to go. That one
Speaker 1: hurts though, that that I mean, that was your top safety,
Speaker 1: right Dane right brought us Richie Graham. Yeah he was,
Speaker 1: but I don't think there's a huge gap between him
Speaker 1: and marriage and even Holland. But yeah, Richie Grant could
Speaker 1: just do everything on the football field. He's an old
Speaker 1: man though he'll be retired in four years. People harp
Speaker 1: on the twenty four years old. But listen, Terence Newman,
Speaker 1: he played like Hill. He was fifty sacks. I think
Speaker 1: it means he's ready to come in, step in from
Speaker 1: day one and make an impact. So he is a
Speaker 1: good player, uh and he might not be elite in
Speaker 1: anyone area, but he's pretty good across the board. And
Speaker 1: those type of types of guys usually stay in the
Speaker 1: NFL for a long time. And which we I know, Jeff,
Speaker 1: it's all about you, I get it. Well, No, it's
Speaker 1: not all about me. It's all about me and you
Speaker 1: and Dane and Brian Kyle. It's not about Dallas. This
Speaker 1: this hurts It hurts me because I think he's he's yeah,
Speaker 1: he's top five for me, like maybe Jay Okay, I
Speaker 1: like him betterbody, he's one my faves. But I don't
Speaker 1: think Dallas felt that way, at least not as strongly.
Speaker 1: I think they like Travan Merrick better. Yeah, so what
Speaker 1: are you doing doing the me thing? You should be
Speaker 1: happy about this. This doesn't hurt you. This is fine.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys didn't mind, dude, I mean it doesn't. It
Speaker 1: doesn't hurt me as much as I think it hurts you. No,
Speaker 1: I'm okay over here, all right, we got a lot
Speaker 1: of good football players day, and we're gonna work this out.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fine. Yeah, I definitely think so as well.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go ahead and step aside because that Cowboys
Speaker 1: pick is going to be right up near the top
Speaker 1: of the hour. We're gonna take our third break and
Speaker 1: we're gonna come back. The Cowboys are just three picks
Speaker 1: away from their second selection in the NFL Draft. You're
Speaker 1: listening to the twenty twenty one NFL Draft on one
Speaker 1: oh five three The Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com.
Speaker 1: There we go, there's the clear back on the Internet
Speaker 1: side of things. Kyle Yomas, Jeff cabin All, Brian brought us,
Speaker 1: Dane Brugler, and David Hellman here with you throughout the
Speaker 1: entire two hundred and fifty nine picks of the NFL draft.
Speaker 1: Lots going on here, gentleman Brian, Where do you think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are looking right at this point? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that this board has fallen. If if, in fact
Speaker 1: that they like the TCU safety mark, I think that's
Speaker 1: the direction they're gonna go. You have to determine Okay
Speaker 1: on their board, and you guys rank him, how would
Speaker 1: you have him? Moulden, os Urique, and then maybe you
Speaker 1: know Osai? How would you have those? I mean that
Speaker 1: seems like the names that we might be looking at
Speaker 1: right now. How would you have those guys rank? I'm
Speaker 1: weird and Osai's the top one of those names, but
Speaker 1: I don't think he. I don't like the fit here.
Speaker 1: I think Marik would be the most likely fit. I
Speaker 1: like Marigan owned Zerick. Most of those two options of
Speaker 1: those names. Give me the names again, uh Marek, os
Speaker 1: Erricke Moulden, and then Osai Moulden would be my top
Speaker 1: one out of all of those. Actually, you would you
Speaker 1: play him at safety or corner for this team? Safe safety? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think for this team's safe. See, this could be
Speaker 1: you remember Dan Quinn and his deal when he you know,
Speaker 1: and you know the Cowboys got the kid, now Kaze,
Speaker 1: you know this Molden could be the guy that, all
Speaker 1: of a sudden is that slot corner type guy that
Speaker 1: you put at safety like he did with Kazi at
Speaker 1: of San Diego State. So he's so easy to like
Speaker 1: as a player. Yeah, I mean it's one of those
Speaker 1: He's not the biggest, he's not the fastest, but he
Speaker 1: is just a really good football player who understands what
Speaker 1: the offense is doing. And then his reaction quickness and
Speaker 1: his smarts that allows him to play in the slot,
Speaker 1: that allows him to Now he's a small margin for
Speaker 1: error because he doesn't have that makeup speed or the
Speaker 1: length that you want, and he's pretty specific with how
Speaker 1: you're going to play him. But yeah, Elijah Molden is
Speaker 1: just an easy player to like here in the second round.
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Speaker 1: first Cowboys pick of the NFL Draft, that was Michael
Speaker 1: Parsons back at twelve. We haven't even gotten to talk
Speaker 1: to you guys about it a little bit, I know
Speaker 1: on the Dallas Cowboys side, not Millerite. Mill was great,
Speaker 1: that's always fantastic, But what about the Parsons pick? Just
Speaker 1: quick synopsis of what you thought overall the trade down
Speaker 1: the board. That's a big one too. Levion Serique defensive
Speaker 1: tackle out of Washington goes to Detroit at forty one.
Speaker 1: The Parsons thing. I didn't love the pick. I think
Speaker 1: for me, he was like the fifteenth or sixteenth best
Speaker 1: player in the draft. But part of that is because
Speaker 1: I ding you for being an off the ball linebacker
Speaker 1: and I think he has to develop. But as far
Speaker 1: as being a game wrecker moving forward, like he's got that.
Speaker 1: So the idea that you added a third round pick
Speaker 1: after being wiped out on your corners and ended up
Speaker 1: with a guy that I think can help you immediately
Speaker 1: with your run defense, I don't mind that adding the
Speaker 1: third round pick to me made it palatable where okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, when you start to look at the things
Speaker 1: that were so impressive about him is when he rushes
Speaker 1: the passer and how physical he could be and how
Speaker 1: he's and it's not the sideline to silence stuff, because
Speaker 1: I think that's really really good. But he could get
Speaker 1: sideways and downhill fast, and I think that, you know,
Speaker 1: and we've had an opportunity to talk to him with
Speaker 1: the last couple of times, he's like, man, I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm just a natural football player. I'm just that's what
Speaker 1: I am. And you see some of that sometimes because
Speaker 1: you'll see him he feels like he's guessing at the play,
Speaker 1: but he's such a good athlete and so fast and
Speaker 1: powerful that he could get there when he makes like,
Speaker 1: oh I made a bad read here, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go downhill. I think initially he's going to be a
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna they're gonna use him to rush the passer,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna start to give him some things that
Speaker 1: you know that with from from Jalen Smith, and if
Speaker 1: he could take some of the things over from Jalen Smith,
Speaker 1: then you'll see him out there on that field. I
Speaker 1: hope he's out there all the time, and I hope
Speaker 1: he gets to the quarterback often. That's what'll make me
Speaker 1: feel good about that. Yeah, very much. So the pick
Speaker 1: is in for Miami. Will address that and the Azerique
Speaker 1: pick whenever we get back on the radio side of things.
Speaker 1: Closing in on our number two of our Day two
Speaker 1: NFL Draft coverage here on one O five three The
Speaker 1: Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. The Miami Dolphins just
Speaker 1: now selecting offensive tackle Liam Eikenberg out of Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: That back on the back end, excuse me of the
Speaker 1: Lions pick at forty one, as Levi owned Serike defensive
Speaker 1: tackle out of Washington was taken, so it was Richie Grant,
Speaker 1: Levi own Serike, Liam Eichenberg back to back to back picks.
Speaker 1: Right here before the Cowboys pick at forty one are
Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine ers Dan Brugler. The Raiders
Speaker 1: just traded up to number forty three, so they're on
Speaker 1: the clock now. The trades have been fascinating here. We've
Speaker 1: seen how many trades here in the second round. It's
Speaker 1: crazy and so interesting that we've seen the Raiders come
Speaker 1: up here to forty three to get in front of
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Who could that? Before? Could that? Before the final?
Speaker 1: What need did they fire? Safety? Top three? It could
Speaker 1: be is it a get in front of the cowboys
Speaker 1: thing or a guy has fallen far enough thing? Because
Speaker 1: Jok is still there as well. I think you would
Speaker 1: and look, depending on where you're looking for your needs.
Speaker 1: I think that for Vegas, one of those is going
Speaker 1: to be safety. And so if you're if you're doing
Speaker 1: the same thing we've been doing, which is tracking them,
Speaker 1: go and you go, oh, Holland went, that's okay. Oh,
Speaker 1: Grant went, that's not good, and then you're down to
Speaker 1: marrig which I think a lot of boards would be
Speaker 1: that's clearly the best safety left. You could jump Dallas
Speaker 1: to go get them. I think that's what's happening here
Speaker 1: with Las Vegas. By the way, that the Raiders pick
Speaker 1: is in at forty three. The Cowboys at forty four
Speaker 1: want to reset things as we do head into our
Speaker 1: number two. Dame Burgler from the Athletic, We've got Brian
Speaker 1: brought us, Jeff cavan Off from one O five three
Speaker 1: the Fan, and then Dallas Cowboys dot COM's David Hellman.
Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yeoman's with you leading the group of analysts
Speaker 1: here and yeah, if it is Trayvon Marrick here, do
Speaker 1: the Cowboys think about even acquiring more picks or do
Speaker 1: you just stick in there and pick whoever's your best
Speaker 1: player on the board. Well, they'll pretend that that's exactly
Speaker 1: what they wanted, and no, I mean I think there
Speaker 1: will be Look, there's there's a lot of really good
Speaker 1: players left, and again we're gonna keep going back to
Speaker 1: a couple of the same names. I think in Joka
Speaker 1: and Adularry as guys that who knows where that stops
Speaker 1: because who knows how teams feel about them exactly medically.
Speaker 1: But if you if you lose marriage here, I think
Speaker 1: you've got a good group of corners. You've got three
Speaker 1: or four pass rushers that I think most teams are
Speaker 1: gonna like. You've got it. Man, If you would let
Speaker 1: me go wide receiver, I'd throw Rondale Moore at you.
Speaker 1: But you've got You've got a nice group of players
Speaker 1: where I think the Cowboys would probably stick there and
Speaker 1: pick their favorite corner. If I had to guess, who
Speaker 1: would those corners be, Yeah, for them, I'll guess that
Speaker 1: it would be between Well, maybe if you have Elijah
Speaker 1: Molden as a safety and you consider him, and then
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go with the longer guys, So I
Speaker 1: would say Paulson Adibo and if he had to Metafon
Speaker 1: will what about Kelvin Joseph. I would love Kelvin Joseph.
Speaker 1: He's my favorite corner, remaining by far that he's my
Speaker 1: favorite corner. I think Tyson Campbell was a guy they've
Speaker 1: liked a lot. They really wanted him. Kelvin Joseph and
Speaker 1: i Fiatsu Malafon were both names that I think and
Speaker 1: these are again, these are guys that I think they
Speaker 1: were trading up to try to get and that goes back.
Speaker 1: Maybe they would have drafted or maybe they want a
Speaker 1: safety if it fell that way. Obviously we've seen this run.
Speaker 1: If that doesn't work out for them, I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: surprised at all. I would love it if it was
Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph. I mean, you've got the wild card of
Speaker 1: you might just have to tell him Monday through Friday, like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: don't worry about coming in, just you know, meet us
Speaker 1: in the city, were playing, and let's play football. Because
Speaker 1: his two college coaching staffs didn't really want him around.
Speaker 1: But the dude can play football. Why didn't they want
Speaker 1: him around. I wasn't there, but Dane, you want to
Speaker 1: take a shot at explaining it. But I mean he
Speaker 1: transferred out of one place, and my understanding is when
Speaker 1: he opted out at the end of the year at Kentucky,
Speaker 1: the coaches were pretty happy about it. As you say,
Speaker 1: if you got to like get out of LSU, if
Speaker 1: if you gotta transfer out, then you must have done
Speaker 1: something wrong. No offense, guys, that is so true. Uh
Speaker 1: And then yeah, I mean it was to a point
Speaker 1: where the effort level dropped and the coaches basically said,
Speaker 1: why don't you just stopped out? You know, it's just uh,
Speaker 1: I can't have you standing around out there. Let's just
Speaker 1: move on part ways and you know, it is what
Speaker 1: it is. It's a weird season. Um he Kelvin. Joseph
Speaker 1: is not without his faults, but as a player, I
Speaker 1: think he's really talented. His eye disciplines a little bit
Speaker 1: of a mess, but as a physical talent and athletic talent,
Speaker 1: he is outstanding. So it's at least at the moment,
Speaker 1: we're thinking it's down to Merrig and Joseph here, or
Speaker 1: maybe I'm saying Joseph, but that's who we would want
Speaker 1: right well, yeah, if we're looking at the okay, I
Speaker 1: mean if I would also throw in Boogie Basham, Joseph Osai,
Speaker 1: maybe even Ronnie Perkins. There's there's a lot of good
Speaker 1: players available. It's just see which one the Raiders take
Speaker 1: off the board for you. And if it's Merrig, I
Speaker 1: do wonder do you guys think No matter what the
Speaker 1: Cowboys tell us that they got blindsided twice, yes, I
Speaker 1: don't think they'd admit it. I think they would say
Speaker 1: they tried to go up. Does this count is getting blindsided?
Speaker 1: If I think if you get jumped one pick before
Speaker 1: you thought you were going to pick a guy, well,
Speaker 1: re safety's being off the board in the second round,
Speaker 1: and the moment Vegas looked or traded up, that was
Speaker 1: the name that like, Okay, they're coming up in front
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys for a reason, and Mary is that reason?
Speaker 1: Tell us about Trayvon Mary and what the Cowboys missed out.
Speaker 1: By the way, the Cowboys are on the clock here,
Speaker 1: they're presented by Miller Lite. So at forty four you
Speaker 1: lost a couple of your guys right up leading into it,
Speaker 1: and now you got a decision to make. But tell
Speaker 1: us about Trayvon Merrick really quickly. Dane Burglar Range you
Speaker 1: can play that single high role where he can play
Speaker 1: either sideline, former wide receiver and corner in high school
Speaker 1: and you see that with the way he plays safety.
Speaker 1: You know, obviously a local product here in DFW and
Speaker 1: a really good player. And it's you know, we'll never
Speaker 1: really know for sure if the Cowboys would have drafted
Speaker 1: him at forty four, but safe to say he was
Speaker 1: on the short list of options. Brian, what do you
Speaker 1: think about marig and where did the Cowboys potentially go
Speaker 1: this direction? Yeah, I think, and I think Dane's got
Speaker 1: the player completely right. So you know there's like I say,
Speaker 1: could you go with the corner. That's something that they've
Speaker 1: talked about a bunch last night. You know, you're trying
Speaker 1: to maybe find a way. They said, heck we were
Speaker 1: if the quarter was on the board, we would take him.
Speaker 1: So I think they went into today with a plan
Speaker 1: of hey, let's go and get a quarter. They obviously
Speaker 1: maybe Campbell was their guy. They backed out. Now they
Speaker 1: get down here. Joseph I think is a guy. Everything
Speaker 1: you guys were talking about with Joseph, I think is
Speaker 1: a really really good melofm Wu was an interesting guy
Speaker 1: too because how long he is Molden. I mean, he
Speaker 1: could play a couple of different spots. At least they
Speaker 1: have options here at corner, and I think that's the thing.
Speaker 1: Whichever one of those guys pick the most talented one
Speaker 1: is is Samuel to me, but he's the shortest. Joseph
Speaker 1: is the one. I think if you look at overall
Speaker 1: how he could play man, he could he could be
Speaker 1: specially if you could get him to go in the
Speaker 1: right right, and mister Drew Pearson going up to the
Speaker 1: Oh he's back. Oh true is don't do anything wild, Drew.
Speaker 1: You can't want up what you did. You say, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he can't talk a Hall of Famer now, so there's
Speaker 1: not as much anger in your heart. Like I think,
Speaker 1: you just make the pick, we won't be able to
Speaker 1: hear it either, right, well, I just I think once
Speaker 1: you've given hat away, like it's not Philly, you won't
Speaker 1: be able to feed off the crowd you got into
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fames. He're a happier person. I think
Speaker 1: this is the time to just play it straight up
Speaker 1: and say, hi, everybody, I'm Drew Pearson. I'm a Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer. It's funny, actually that's the pick. Yep. They
Speaker 1: whenever Dallas came on the clock. Here no tray Von Merrick,
Speaker 1: no Richie Grant, couple of corners available. Drew Pearson announcing
Speaker 1: the pick. In the second round of the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: one NFL Draft, with pick number forty four, the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys will select Let's go BPA take Joks player, figure
Speaker 1: out the medical later on as he's ager, Larry figure
Speaker 1: out the medical later and just give US one player
Speaker 1: Best Player Available. Drew Pearson Hall of Fame Drew Pearson
Speaker 1: continuing to take his time. Look at Cleveland, man, that's
Speaker 1: a lot of peatile city. Fantastic. You like that city, Dane,
Speaker 1: It's beautiful thing. It's a decent city. That's the muni
Speaker 1: a lot right there. What's the muni? That's a golf
Speaker 1: course and place. There's a look inside the war room,
Speaker 1: by the way, as the decision has already been made.
Speaker 1: Drew Pearson's getting pumped. Is he's going fast? He is yelling,
Speaker 1: we don't need the volume up, no, if we can
Speaker 1: feel it for you can see the reaction in the
Speaker 1: war room with the cowboy. You look at the all
Speaker 1: they're all laughing. Mike McCarthy's kind of cringing a little bit.
Speaker 1: I think, well, that's because he's wearing a suit. I
Speaker 1: want to be in that Oh come on, you can
Speaker 1: tell every time he's at a bresser he didn't want
Speaker 1: to be in that sit. Does anybody like wearing a suit?
Speaker 1: Come on? So here's the pick with the forty fourth selection,
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys select. He's reading the card. I mean,
Speaker 1: we knew that, gracious, So he's selling some plumbing supplies
Speaker 1: to Kelvin Joseph. Let's go boss Man Fat. Boss Man Fat,
Speaker 1: first of all, is a great musician. Check out his
Speaker 1: YouTube channel. And on top of that, he is a
Speaker 1: heck of a corner. Six rap albums out there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they're all good and they get better. We do
Speaker 1: the interviews. You call him that when he when get
Speaker 1: them on the phone. Oh yeah, yeah, I'll say hi
Speaker 1: to boss Man Fat. No, he's I mean, I just
Speaker 1: I think that his tape was first round worthy, and
Speaker 1: I agree. You know, if you were if you were
Speaker 1: willing to or comfortable with um who he is and
Speaker 1: practice habits or whatever it was in college at both
Speaker 1: LSU and Kentucky, that didn't seem to go over well
Speaker 1: with coaching staffs. That dude's a baller. So you didn't
Speaker 1: get to take your corner in the first round. So
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are doing the Blue Star Special thing where
Speaker 1: they're looking around the room and going, hey, that Kelvin
Speaker 1: Joseph's really good, and somebody else's like, right, but are
Speaker 1: we ready for the other stuff? And somebody goes, I
Speaker 1: don't care. We didn't get one in the first round.
Speaker 1: Let's take a first rounder in the second. So you
Speaker 1: get Kelvin Joseph. He's a dude, he is a good player.
Speaker 1: So I don't know how much I telegraphed it, but
Speaker 1: I had an inkling. I had an inkling this guy,
Speaker 1: this guy was on the short list of guys that
Speaker 1: they were targeting. Great to Dave Elman because he did
Speaker 1: mention it to be before the we even went on
Speaker 1: air that Kelvin Joseph was squarely on the radar. This
Speaker 1: guy was one of I think Travan Merrick was one
Speaker 1: of them. Maybe Richie Grant was one of them. Tyson
Speaker 1: Campbell was absolutely one of them. But Kelvin Joseph was
Speaker 1: on a short list of guys that they were targeting tonight.
Speaker 1: See Jacksonville helped you out, got Campbell out of the way,
Speaker 1: made you pick boss man fat, and you got the
Speaker 1: better player. So it's gonna be great. What I did was, Brian,
Speaker 1: you know this. You know we went to LSU twenty
Speaker 1: years apart. Sure, we got some friends down there. I
Speaker 1: did my diligence this morning, because you know, Kelvin played
Speaker 1: his first the first part of his career at LSU.
Speaker 1: So I called her everything everything y'all just said is
Speaker 1: is accurate. I do like he I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: need some help. I think this is a guy that
Speaker 1: has off the field interests and is an off the
Speaker 1: field focused player. He's got a budding rap career, if
Speaker 1: you want to call it that, boss man fat Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't you know you talk about see
Speaker 1: you said, don't worry about Monday to Friday. I think
Speaker 1: that is an absolutely awful idea. I think this is
Speaker 1: a guy Monday to Friday. You need to make sure
Speaker 1: he's in the building, looking at tape and doing the
Speaker 1: things that he needs to do well. I'm saying, his
Speaker 1: worst case, you just tell him, hey, you know what,
Speaker 1: I don't want to deal with all that. We'll just
Speaker 1: see you on game time. We'll point out who you're covering.
Speaker 1: A great idea. Everybody wins. Having said what I just said,
Speaker 1: you know you talked about LSU was you know, happy
Speaker 1: to see him go? That's not completely true. I got
Speaker 1: good reviews back. Like everybody in the program over there
Speaker 1: likes Kelvin Joseph like said, he's a hard worker and
Speaker 1: a good kid, like all around, like not not a
Speaker 1: you know, for lack of a better word, like not
Speaker 1: a scumbag. He's not a criminal. Yeah, he's He's not
Speaker 1: a bad person. He just probably needs some help prioritizing
Speaker 1: football among other interests in his life. So I'm just
Speaker 1: I dug around a little bit this morning when I
Speaker 1: had an idea that he might become a Cowboy, and
Speaker 1: I felt better about it once I got done doing that.
Speaker 1: I do he comes with some challenges that I think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are going to have to be on top of.
Speaker 1: But it's a it. Like I said, I heard good
Speaker 1: things back and just talking about the type of person
Speaker 1: that he is. He has more rap albums than he
Speaker 1: does career interceptions, like it's just one of those things
Speaker 1: that everybody rap albums and any of the corners picked
Speaker 1: in the top ten, you know albums. He's not a
Speaker 1: guy that's talent wise you're worried about. It's just, yeah,
Speaker 1: everything that Dave said very eloquently, thank you. It's he's
Speaker 1: a good player, and so you know he's gonna come
Speaker 1: in and compete for a starting job right away. By
Speaker 1: the way, the Jaguars at forty five took Walker, a
Speaker 1: little offensive tackle out of Stanford, So the Cowboys get
Speaker 1: their linebacker in round number one, to twelve, and then
Speaker 1: at forty four they go with Kelvin Joseph Corner out
Speaker 1: of Kentucky. Those are the first two picks out of
Speaker 1: eleven slated for the Cowboys. What's next? Though? You got
Speaker 1: your Corner out of the way, Seemingly you hope that
Speaker 1: he could potentially come in and be a sort of
Speaker 1: by the way, I mean, Dave, you said that you
Speaker 1: kind of mentioned it how he was telegraphed by this
Speaker 1: coaching stafford, by this front office of maybe being on
Speaker 1: that like on that target list short lived. I don't
Speaker 1: think they telegraphed it. I was trying not to telegraph
Speaker 1: it because you never know what's going to happen. But
Speaker 1: I just I had an idea you had in England,
Speaker 1: being decent at my job, that it might happen. But
Speaker 1: you remember back whenever we were talking about Pro Days
Speaker 1: and where Mike McCarthy was going to Pro Days. Didn't
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy go to Lexington? Didn't he go to the
Speaker 1: Kentucky protect me on the spot. I actually don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to say, yeah, Kyle, he was all up
Speaker 1: in there. I was studying. I at least I'm not
Speaker 1: exactly man that's how you tell it. That's how you
Speaker 1: don't telegraph it. You don't put the coach or the
Speaker 1: DC on the zoo call. Know we know Jeff, Jeff
Speaker 1: loves it, which is fine. What do you what do you?
Speaker 1: What do you think about this pick? Brian No, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm totally okay with this, and I think Jeff is
Speaker 1: absolutely right about it. I think this guy's got first
Speaker 1: round traits all over him. And this guy will line
Speaker 1: up on both sides of the field. He'll cover in
Speaker 1: the slot. I don't think he's afraid as a tackler.
Speaker 1: There's several times where he came forward to get his
Speaker 1: man on the ground. Again, his numbers won't show a
Speaker 1: high volume there, but the effort is really really good.
Speaker 1: I think he physically, like we're talking about, he looks
Speaker 1: the part and he'll cover the best guy. Now, the
Speaker 1: problem he'll run into is like and everybody happened the
Speaker 1: sec he had to carry Kyle Pitts one time and
Speaker 1: Pitts took him on a double move that was a
Speaker 1: seventy yard touchdown. So you know to me, but that
Speaker 1: that happens. This guy's a smooth player. He could turn,
Speaker 1: he could run he has no issues there. The law
Speaker 1: long speed's really good, He's able to carry some receivers.
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, other than the one time with Pits,
Speaker 1: but I was pretty impressed by this guy. I really was.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that he left LSU, but I'm glad he
Speaker 1: found him some opportunities to play there in Lexington. You know,
Speaker 1: we talk about a lot. I think during the draft
Speaker 1: process about Rashaan Slater in the tape that he put
Speaker 1: up when he was blocking Chase Young and how impressive
Speaker 1: that is. I don't think I saw anybody cover Heisman
Speaker 1: Trophy winner DeVante Smith better than Kelvin Joseph did so.
Speaker 1: So if you wanted interception against him, yeah, he battled
Speaker 1: Kyle Pits pretty well. Pit's got him. Yeah, he got
Speaker 1: him on an outside stand. He broke inside everybody though,
Speaker 1: so you know it's it's uh, but I thought for
Speaker 1: the most part he fared pretty well. Now, what's the
Speaker 1: next need? By the way, Bengals at forty six take
Speaker 1: tackle Jackson Carmen out of Clempson. He's from the Cincinnati area.
Speaker 1: Is he really? Is that a bit of a reach there?
Speaker 1: I kind of had a third. I think it's more
Speaker 1: about who they drafted him in front of. Well, because
Speaker 1: I think he's playing guard. I don't think they draft
Speaker 1: him as a tackle. Fair, So you know you're drafting
Speaker 1: him in front of what Creed Humphrey, Quinn, Miners, Josh Myers,
Speaker 1: Davis Mayfield. You know, I think based off of what
Speaker 1: we thought of him. Yeah, a little bit of a reach.
Speaker 1: But the Bengals don't care what we think. That's a
Speaker 1: good point they should though, right, Jeff, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: no, no no. Team shouldn't care what we think, but we
Speaker 1: shouldn't care what teams think. You know, you got to
Speaker 1: stay true to you, Kyle. Okay, I'm trying, I'm learning.
Speaker 1: I'm only in year two of this. Yeah, if the
Speaker 1: Cowboys draft a guy with their next pick that you
Speaker 1: have graded in the fifth, what you do is you
Speaker 1: say that was a terrible pick, and then you know,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys will say, well, this is what we thought
Speaker 1: of him, and we had professional scouts in a front office,
Speaker 1: and you're like, yeah, but I got a laptop and
Speaker 1: some all twenty two and you stick to your guns
Speaker 1: and you say, hey, great pick on Kelvin Joseph, bad
Speaker 1: job on this one. Look, this is this is a
Speaker 1: tough question. But if you had a rank Michael Parsons
Speaker 1: and Kelvin Joseph strictly on talent, nothing else, like not
Speaker 1: take even like technique out of it, the technical side
Speaker 1: of the game, off the field, medicals, all that, take
Speaker 1: it off. Just pure talent. Michael Parsons, Kelvin Joseph top fifteen,
Speaker 1: both of them. I was gonna say, top twenty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I think they're that's fair to say.
Speaker 1: It's really exciting for me to hear that. That's a
Speaker 1: really interesting way to look at these two picks. Can
Speaker 1: I can I? Can I take another direction? What do
Speaker 1: you got? What if I told you could have Slater
Speaker 1: or in Bolton as your two picks, you would do this?
Speaker 1: Could I do Slater and boss Man? Fat? Yeah? Can
Speaker 1: I have just slap idea? I'm just the fact that
Speaker 1: they took a linebacker. That's why I threw him in there. Oh,
Speaker 1: I just I would take it this way. That's how
Speaker 1: much I like Joseph. Oh I love Joseph. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: though I love this is what is slate? What would
Speaker 1: Slater at Bolton do to your attitude right now? About
Speaker 1: this draft? For the cowboys. I think. I like, so
Speaker 1: let's go ahead and stop step aside for just a
Speaker 1: couple of seconds, because we do have the newest Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboy on the phone is Kelvin. Joseph Corner out of
Speaker 1: Kentucky is on the line, and Kelvin, first off, congratulations,
Speaker 1: you're the newest Dallas cowboy. What's going through your head
Speaker 1: right now? Thank you? I'm just I'm just blessed right now.
Speaker 1: I'm just living a moment, thank you God and so
Speaker 1: and then joining with my family. It's been a long road,
Speaker 1: long journey, and I'm just thankful that Dallas believing. Hey, Calvin, congratulations, man.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm curious. You know, there was a lot
Speaker 1: of speculation that you could be a first round pick.
Speaker 1: It's obviously it's a bit of a weight from the
Speaker 1: end of last night to now. What was what was
Speaker 1: today like? And were you were you hearing anything? Did
Speaker 1: you have any inkling of how this could shake out
Speaker 1: for you? They it was It was kind of it
Speaker 1: was kind of crazy, like kind of over and down.
Speaker 1: I started all over like a smile on my Facebook
Speaker 1: to to drive. Once it started, I got kind of
Speaker 1: you know, you'll feelings get kind of down a little bit,
Speaker 1: but I just say faith that I was gonna get
Speaker 1: called today and pretty good about it. And and right
Speaker 1: now I'm I'm just thinking my lucky don't and folds
Speaker 1: just just because a lot of friends, a lot of
Speaker 1: way where he's saying the tay lju and just I
Speaker 1: knew like that what sold I was gonna get kicked,
Speaker 1: and it happened. And God it's boss Man Fat aka
Speaker 1: Kelvin Joe. Way to be the other way around, Kelvin
Speaker 1: Joseph aka boss Man Fat with us here, Um, what
Speaker 1: was it like with the Cowboys leading up to the draft?
Speaker 1: How much interest did they show in you? Who did
Speaker 1: you talk to? All those things? Child boys? Child boys
Speaker 1: showed a lot of interest. I talked to like the
Speaker 1: time staff, just from the doctors to the coaches to
Speaker 1: GM own us. I talked to everybody that And once
Speaker 1: I went to in the athletes, I talked to the doctor.
Speaker 1: We had like two two conversations and I was telling
Speaker 1: them I'm like, bro, I hope y'all draft me for
Speaker 1: real and he lade the hand. But like that was
Speaker 1: just a conversation behind closed. Like I wanted to go
Speaker 1: to the caliboy. Yeah, and they had a lot of
Speaker 1: INSes in me, and I'm pascious for it. Boss Man.
Speaker 1: We're going into the studio tonight to drop an album. Here,
Speaker 1: there's something we got. We got some tunes in heart.
Speaker 1: We're right there. We're feeling it right now. I'm feeling
Speaker 1: it right now. But no, just and it was right now.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna enjoy them over with our family and
Speaker 1: get ready to go to Dallas. They put put their
Speaker 1: rook can Hey, Calvin real quick. I mean yeah, I
Speaker 1: know you want to, you know, get off and celebrate
Speaker 1: and have a great night. But obviously spent a long
Speaker 1: time in the SEC. You're coming to Dallas where you
Speaker 1: know your partner at cornerback is another SEC guy in
Speaker 1: Trayvon Diggs. Do you do you know him at all?
Speaker 1: Do you have a relationship. You're gonna reach out to
Speaker 1: him just out of curiosity. I'm gonna I'm gonna definitely
Speaker 1: reach out to Just studying his game and just going
Speaker 1: and this whole processes of the NFL colonists in league
Speaker 1: right now, the pro days and stuff like that, and
Speaker 1: knowing his abilities that he can do. He was very
Speaker 1: versatile from receival to to dB. I know you can
Speaker 1: put me on a lot of different tips and plus
Speaker 1: his big other stuff from the dnique. So I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure just from little Footwirth and big two different techniques. Right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna show clique so we can be drums. Kelvin,
Speaker 1: Joseph Knewest Dallas Cowboy and cornerback out of Kentucky, picked
Speaker 1: at number forty four. Calvin, thanks so much for taking
Speaker 1: some time to talk to us. We look forward to
Speaker 1: talking with you down the road. Yes, thank you, thank
Speaker 1: you'll congrats man, congratulations Kelvin, and thanks again of course, Calvin,
Speaker 1: Joseph and all of these draft prospects brought to you
Speaker 1: by Miller Litte. Initial thoughts, Brian, I'll tell you what though,
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, it's uh, yeah, he seems like a kid.
Speaker 1: It's well, seems they talk about the journie. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: talk about the journey here, and you know, and he
Speaker 1: seems like he's he's just glad the journey's over. You know.
Speaker 1: He seems like to me, man, there's a lot going on,
Speaker 1: and but he's one of those guys said hey, let's
Speaker 1: you know, come in here, let's do some work and
Speaker 1: you know, he's got, like Dave was talking, a lot
Speaker 1: of interest going on outside. But that's okay with me.
Speaker 1: Just go out there and play football on Sunday and
Speaker 1: you'll be just fine. Well, we'll see what happens. I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not saying he's gonna be a pro bowler,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't sit right with me. Always when having
Speaker 1: a life outside of football makes you a bad person.
Speaker 1: But you know, I also trust again, you know, a
Speaker 1: Jeff's point, it's been a long journey, you go through
Speaker 1: two college programs. I think it's understandable that questions get
Speaker 1: asked when you're going to invest the top fifty pick.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I'm encouraged to hear that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have talked to him through this entire process, and
Speaker 1: you know, hopefully they've got their hands around this situation.
Speaker 1: And if they do, I think this could be a
Speaker 1: hell of a pick. Had a bit of a relationship
Speaker 1: already formed with him throughout the process. Let's take our
Speaker 1: first break year of our number two. You're listening to
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one NFL Draft on a one oh
Speaker 1: five three the fan in Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Back
Speaker 1: here on the internet, side of things, And Jeff, I
Speaker 1: wanted to hear your thoughts on on boss Man Fat
Speaker 1: aka Kelvin Joseph or the other way around whatever it
Speaker 1: ended up being. Right, He's awesome. Yeah, Kelvin Joseph is awesome.
Speaker 1: I think if you didn't have the questions and the
Speaker 1: things that we I don't know all the details on
Speaker 1: in terms of how it ended form at LSU and
Speaker 1: how to inform at Kentucky, then I think on tape
Speaker 1: a loan it would be Horn, Certan Newsome and Kelvin Joseph.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't have been Horn and cer Tan and then
Speaker 1: Newsome and then your group of second round corners. Kelvin
Speaker 1: Joseph is in that group of guys. Wow. So just
Speaker 1: to me, that's that's the talent that you got. And
Speaker 1: as Brian tells me, as the great, as Jim Garrett says,
Speaker 1: Jim Garrett says it, it ain't the boy scouts. YE
Speaker 1: find the talented players and let's see if we can
Speaker 1: figure this out. And Kelvin Joseph's super talented. Well, if
Speaker 1: you're going into this draft as the cow Boys and
Speaker 1: you say we need some edge on defense, we need
Speaker 1: we need some edgy guys. We need some attitude. Dan,
Speaker 1: They've done that back to back picks. I mean, both
Speaker 1: of the guys that they've selected, both Kelvin Joseph and
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons are going to bring that fire, bring that edge,
Speaker 1: that aggressiveness that you seemingly have been missing on that
Speaker 1: side of the ball. And plenty of talent. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's the thing that matters more than anything. And so,
Speaker 1: you know, it's really interesting. I wondered how teams are
Speaker 1: going to attack this year when you don't have the
Speaker 1: thirty visits, the facility visits, you don't have the one
Speaker 1: on one contact that the combine even pro days, you
Speaker 1: can't you know, have the interaction. So with less opportunities
Speaker 1: to get to know these guys, was that going to
Speaker 1: lead teams to be a little more conservative? Well not
Speaker 1: the cowboys. They effect apparently got the answers they wanted
Speaker 1: to hear about, you know, both of their picks and
Speaker 1: trust their trusting the talent and you know, time will
Speaker 1: tell it plays out. By the way, the last couple
Speaker 1: of picks, Aaron Banks goes forty he ate overall to
Speaker 1: San Francisco, the guard out of Notre Dame and then
Speaker 1: the pick prior to that, I mean, the Cowboys already
Speaker 1: got their corner. But Asante Samuel, junior cornerback of Florida State,
Speaker 1: goes number forty seven to the Chargers. In Brian, I
Speaker 1: know you had a pretty high grade on mister Samuel.
Speaker 1: I did. And if you want to talk about the
Speaker 1: corners that might have the best skill in the draft.
Speaker 1: Just like his dad, this kid, he is his the
Speaker 1: feat the way he competes. He's just short. That's the
Speaker 1: only thing that you can knock on this kid, because
Speaker 1: he'll give you everything he has. I love the way
Speaker 1: he stays in position, the way he takes routes. He
Speaker 1: when he when he's on you, he is not going
Speaker 1: to go away. And I love I love the footwear.
Speaker 1: I mean when they get him in camp and the OTAs,
Speaker 1: when we're all those guys out there evaluating how the
Speaker 1: players look in shorts and T shirts, I guarantee you
Speaker 1: he will be the best looking one out there. And
Speaker 1: then he'll put the pads on him and he'll start
Speaker 1: to go make plays. That that is a that's a
Speaker 1: really really good pick by the Chargers. Chargers having a
Speaker 1: good picks Charners are like, I need to leave Cincinnati
Speaker 1: and go work for the Chargers because I'm gosh, no,
Speaker 1: actually no, We're We're staying in Cincinnati because I was.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to shout out my AFC team for
Speaker 1: drafting some protection for Joe Burrow. They got they got
Speaker 1: Chase last night. Yeah, they trade back and get Jackson
Speaker 1: Carmen from Clemson tonight. Feeling feeling good about our dynasty
Speaker 1: up in Cincinnati forming right now. I like, I like
Speaker 1: what I like. San Francisco just did a guard here.
Speaker 1: I mean this Daney, Am I right about this? Errand Banks?
Speaker 1: I mean, I know there's a lot of people that
Speaker 1: were talking about Trey Smith and all that stuff like that.
Speaker 1: This is a big, square, mean guy right there. And
Speaker 1: Notre Dame has done a great job of putting offensive
Speaker 1: lineman in the NFL and then having some success. And
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, massive guy. He's big, he's stick.
Speaker 1: I said, he's square. He looks good in his stance,
Speaker 1: powerful player. You know, he's not going to get knocked
Speaker 1: over or run over or any of that stuff. He's
Speaker 1: got that body type in the string to hold his ground.
Speaker 1: And I just love the way he keeps that defender
Speaker 1: along the line of scrimmage. He ain't gonna let you.
Speaker 1: He ain'tnna let you get away from him at all.
Speaker 1: The twenty twenty one NFL Draft on one oh five three,
Speaker 1: the Fan and Dallas Cowboys Dot Com rolls along Kyle
Speaker 1: Yeoman's Brian brought us Jeff Cavtall, Dame Burgler, and David
Speaker 1: Hellman couple more picks off the board. After the Cowboys
Speaker 1: select Kelvin Joseph Corner out of Kentucky. We heard from
Speaker 1: him a couple of moments ago. They select him at
Speaker 1: forty four. Following the Joseph pick, Walker Little goes to
Speaker 1: the Jags at forty five. Forty six, Cincinnati takes Jackson Carmen,
Speaker 1: offensive tackle out of Clemson. Asante Samuel Junior, the cornerback
Speaker 1: from Florida State, goes forty seven to the Los Angeles Chargers,
Speaker 1: and then the San Francisco forty nine ers come up
Speaker 1: and get Aaron Banks, offensive guard out of Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: In the most recent pick, Ron del Moore, wide receiver
Speaker 1: from Purdue. He joined DeAndre Hopkins, Larry Fitzgerald and company
Speaker 1: in Arizona. You like that pick, Bryan I do like
Speaker 1: that pick. He was one of those guys. We have
Speaker 1: all those I had all the tiny guys like in
Speaker 1: one round, you know. And but I was really impressed.
Speaker 1: If you just said, Okay, we're gonna watch one tape
Speaker 1: of this guy and said, yeah it was. It was
Speaker 1: at Ohio Steak as a freshman as a freshman, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, he is wearing the Buckeyes out, and so yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. I was. I was super super impressed by him.
Speaker 1: He like I said, they did. I think they did
Speaker 1: a great job of getting him the ball and allowing
Speaker 1: him to make plays. They could throw him screens, swings,
Speaker 1: pop passes, it doesn't matter. He can make the defense
Speaker 1: pay if they don't get bodies to him quick enough
Speaker 1: because he's a nightmare defender, especially out of the slot.
Speaker 1: He could slow play a defender, then explode into the route.
Speaker 1: He sets up the defenders and it blows by him.
Speaker 1: His colleague, Carters, is play making ability, not a route runner.
Speaker 1: He also returns some kicks for you too, So nice
Speaker 1: pick right there by the Arizona Cardinals. He's a little limited, right,
Speaker 1: as you said, in terms of his route tree and
Speaker 1: what you're gonna ask of him down the field. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I just manufactured touches for this guy. Yeah, and get
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands and let him create. He's short,
Speaker 1: but he's not small. I mean after the catch, that's
Speaker 1: his best quality with that athleticism, that run, toughness. One
Speaker 1: of the biggest problems is we just haven't really seen
Speaker 1: him since he has an eighteen. Yeah, he missed a
Speaker 1: good chunk of these past two seasons. But a talent
Speaker 1: wise off the charts. That's this is gonna say. I'm
Speaker 1: not hating on the guy. He's clearly he's clearly really talented.
Speaker 1: Sounds like you're hating on him. I'm just he single
Speaker 1: handedly destroyed Ohio State and then sort of disappeared because
Speaker 1: of injuries. Like it's not his fault, but I just
Speaker 1: feel like you got a glimpse of what he can do,
Speaker 1: but not a full picture. Yeah, and that scares me
Speaker 1: for a guy of that size. And to what Dane
Speaker 1: was saying as I'm watching him this year, and my
Speaker 1: guess would be, I don't know if produced quarterback is
Speaker 1: considered good, but holy cow, the number of times that
Speaker 1: the throws to Rondale Moore were like jet jet sweep
Speaker 1: action and behind the line and just try to get
Speaker 1: it to you in any way, shape or form. And
Speaker 1: so it's hard to get a feel for a guy
Speaker 1: as a route runner when it seems like the only
Speaker 1: way they could figure out to get him the ball
Speaker 1: was right around the line of scrimmage. Well, think about
Speaker 1: that Cardinals offense. You know they want to play multiple
Speaker 1: you know with Cliff Kingsbury, and a guy like Rondale
Speaker 1: Moore allows them to do that with just the way
Speaker 1: that you line them up, and it's going to force
Speaker 1: the defense to, uh, you know, really show their cards
Speaker 1: and change their personnel cards. Cardinal's a good one. That's funny.
Speaker 1: So yeah, look this is a good pick. I know
Speaker 1: there are several teams picking here in the fifties that
Speaker 1: are not happy to see rondeal More off the board
Speaker 1: here New York is coming up to fifty or were
Speaker 1: they already there is already the Miami trade. Well, punch
Speaker 1: me in the face, then how about that we could
Speaker 1: do that day three? Yeah, I was about to say it.
Speaker 1: Rather now we got a long way to go. So
Speaker 1: Rondel Moore off the board. I kind of want to
Speaker 1: reset things for the Cowboys because you got your linebacker,
Speaker 1: You got your corner. What's next where the needs lie?
Speaker 1: Because you have three picks coming up in that third
Speaker 1: round and they're going to be back to back to
Speaker 1: back really quick. What are you doing here? Spare me
Speaker 1: the handwringing about how you feel about the picks, because
Speaker 1: they're done. They've been made, so they're here. Parsons and
Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph are here. But if you just again, going
Speaker 1: back to my whole thing of like it was, it
Speaker 1: was a four pick jigsaw puzzle and now it's a
Speaker 1: five pick jigsaw puzzle. Two of the two of the
Speaker 1: biggest concerns have been checked. And I know, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's not necessarily the number one priority, but those were
Speaker 1: probably the two big things I thought they needed to do.
Speaker 1: And it was weird getting there. I don't think anybody
Speaker 1: saw any of this coming, but they did it. And
Speaker 1: they've done a nice job of adjusting when they have too,
Speaker 1: because they Jeff said it initially is the fact that
Speaker 1: they got wiped out pretty much twice already. They got
Speaker 1: wiped out of safety and they got wiped out of
Speaker 1: the cornerbacks in the first round. Well the second time,
Speaker 1: Thank goodness. I love that they got wiped out, brought
Speaker 1: as key to have a project for you. Pick ninety
Speaker 1: nine and pick seventy five. Where would that get you? Try? Ye?
Speaker 1: See where that gets us? Are you trying to get
Speaker 1: a safety? Who are you trying to go? I just
Speaker 1: I want to see just what it would take to
Speaker 1: get back in the second round. Yeah. I don't know
Speaker 1: that they want to pick three players there. I think
Speaker 1: they want to pick two guys they really want instead
Speaker 1: of I definitely I understand that. But I'm just so
Speaker 1: all right all that which bums me out because all
Speaker 1: the linebackers I love, I assume are off the you know,
Speaker 1: the Jabril Coxes of the world and Baron Browning's. They're
Speaker 1: not going to draft those guys now probably maybe probably
Speaker 1: they got their cornerback. Okay, but let's talk about who
Speaker 1: you doing the trade for? Maybe a tackle Milton Williams.
Speaker 1: You could get to Kansas City at fifty eight. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's soon? Yeah, yeah, that you get real quick? What
Speaker 1: about what about an edge bash them? Yeah? Larie of
Speaker 1: course breaks my heart. Tell me two gas, give me
Speaker 1: two of those picks and then go up and go
Speaker 1: get Carlos basham. If you could get bash them there.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be mad about it at all. Packager, package
Speaker 1: your late third with your early third, come back into
Speaker 1: the second, get one of those defensive linemen. You still
Speaker 1: got a third to play with later on. I don't
Speaker 1: hate the idea at all. I guess I spent I
Speaker 1: spent all day today thinking like they got to go
Speaker 1: up to get their corner they didn't, and and all
Speaker 1: the safeties I love. I guess Elijah Molden is still there.
Speaker 1: I would love to have him. Some teams will think
Speaker 1: a debo might be a safety, so maybe a corner
Speaker 1: is still alive that could maybe play safety. Are there
Speaker 1: teams that think melofon Wu could play safety or our
Speaker 1: teams late Yeah? See, but Dane, even outside of maybe
Speaker 1: trading back up and I completely agree with your thought
Speaker 1: process here, But you could go the other way and say,
Speaker 1: there are a slew of really good players now that
Speaker 1: you got your corner need out of the way. Whatever
Speaker 1: the best player available is at seventy five, at eighty four,
Speaker 1: at ninety nine, you're gonna feel really good about what's
Speaker 1: going to be there, because I mean, we've already mentioned
Speaker 1: that a ton of names that could be there if
Speaker 1: there's a lot of names like that. There's going to
Speaker 1: be some some players at that point in the draft. Sure,
Speaker 1: And do you want to feel good? Do you want
Speaker 1: to feel great? See, that's where I'm at, And I
Speaker 1: think that's what you might be able to do if
Speaker 1: you make a little move here, and that's what you
Speaker 1: that's the fun with three third round picks like that.
Speaker 1: You know you can have some fun with it. If
Speaker 1: there is a guy out there now, we just don't
Speaker 1: know how they feel about Osai, how they feel about Basham,
Speaker 1: how they feel about some of these defensive linemen. Milton Williams,
Speaker 1: we know they like, but enough to make a move,
Speaker 1: who knows. So there goes one of your edges right there. Hey,
Speaker 1: that was with my mock draft. Oh, I don't like
Speaker 1: that at all. Dane is so good and I don't
Speaker 1: like it when in the division, the Giant's gonna get
Speaker 1: it edge Rusher Aziz Ojalari out of Georgia. They talked about, Hey,
Speaker 1: I was visiting with some Giants guys about this the
Speaker 1: night for this was a first round consideration for them. Wow.
Speaker 1: They were thinking defensive end and they were also thinking
Speaker 1: wide receiver. And I talked to a guy who said, listen,
Speaker 1: what do you know about Ojulari's knee? And I told him,
Speaker 1: And they were also thinking about Phillips Jail and Phillips
Speaker 1: from you know that went to the Dolphins. They tried
Speaker 1: to trade up for him. Yeah, so this is this
Speaker 1: is to me. This was a guy that all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, they're like, listen, we're thinking about him last night,
Speaker 1: and now they get him in the second And maybe
Speaker 1: it has to do with the knee problems and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. Maybe that's something maybe a long term, but
Speaker 1: what a heck of a football player. I mean, I
Speaker 1: had a first round grade on him myself. If he's
Speaker 1: fully held, he's going top twenty. Yeah, I mean, he's
Speaker 1: he's such a unique talent, the athleticism, the instincts. He
Speaker 1: can play the round, can play the pass and for
Speaker 1: a guy that doesn't look very big, six two to
Speaker 1: fifty thirty four and a half inch arms, so he
Speaker 1: can set a hard edge. You know, he he can
Speaker 1: dip and rip. There's a lot of things you can
Speaker 1: do with him. My favorite plays from him. We're probably
Speaker 1: not rushing the passer, but you know how Alabama loves
Speaker 1: to pull their guards to block defensive ends. So he's
Speaker 1: got big old Tay Brown coming around the corner away
Speaker 1: and all of three fifty and he didn't move an
Speaker 1: inch like so like he's a really good pass rusher,
Speaker 1: but man, you got to have some power in your
Speaker 1: lower body to stop a three hundred and fifty pounder
Speaker 1: in his tracks, and Ojulari does that. Now you've got
Speaker 1: Washington on the clock. So if he wasn't going to
Speaker 1: go to New York, probably not going to land in
Speaker 1: Washington either. They've spent quite a bit on their front seven.
Speaker 1: So now what does Washington do? And back to back
Speaker 1: Nfcast picks here Dane and the Inkling on what the
Speaker 1: football team could maybe look at after here? Tight end?
Speaker 1: Could we see uh like Brevin Jordan and Tommy Trumbull
Speaker 1: off the board, Pat Friarmouth, those those are options on offense.
Speaker 1: They love him, They want to get better at tight ends.
Speaker 1: Why would you try to set me up to talk
Speaker 1: bad about it again? I didn't know you're gonna do that,
Speaker 1: because it's easy. Friar Muth is an old school tight end,
Speaker 1: kind of doesn't get open and just kind of runs
Speaker 1: around and catches the ball when you throw it to
Speaker 1: him and what's stuff? What's the foot ball team? Take?
Speaker 1: Take more here? Yeah, it's gonna be ja okay, I'm
Speaker 1: ready for this. Oh, Samuels is all right? I like this.
Speaker 1: I like this Cosmi. So you don't like Cosmi, that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He's with the football team now I
Speaker 1: like them. I think. I mean, he's a good player, dope,
Speaker 1: bend your knees very well, catch blockers, all right. This
Speaker 1: good athlete. Yeah, he's a really good athlete. If he's
Speaker 1: a great offensive like IM trying to say he's not
Speaker 1: a great offensive tackle. Yeah, I come from to Culton Miller,
Speaker 1: like right, and for three years he was awful. I was.
Speaker 1: He was the worst tackle in football for two years.
Speaker 1: But he developed I would do a good offensive tackle
Speaker 1: and that's okay. But what I saw from Cosmi is
Speaker 1: an incredible athlete that's not there yet as an offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: so like he could develop into something really good. Coulton
Speaker 1: Miller was fifteenth overall. Like this is the second round
Speaker 1: if I mean, I feel okay about that. If he
Speaker 1: told me he's gonna about Brian who's just over here, straight, Haydon.
Speaker 1: Cosmi was my highest graded tackle left so if you
Speaker 1: were going to take a tackle, that was the guy
Speaker 1: to take. I'm just here to support Brian and all
Speaker 1: of his Hayden it's it's it's not hey, I'll be interested.
Speaker 1: This guy I don't know man Like I say, it's hard.
Speaker 1: He just kind of grabs on the people and tries
Speaker 1: to hold on. Didn't really bend all that well. So
Speaker 1: it'll be when you guys were watching training camp and
Speaker 1: he's getting run by, don't just remember your brother, Brian
Speaker 1: Brown straighter up here to fifty two? What are they
Speaker 1: doing with the Panthers. They wanted to run down more?
Speaker 1: But now with him, this was Carolina's pick. Now gave
Speaker 1: this Carolina to Cleveland? Yes, all right, Carolina. Just teams
Speaker 1: in the league that might come take it from Cleveland. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: we're talking about Cleveland. One of the players at twenty six,
Speaker 1: not today, Jim Jeremiah, who's a Coromoa at twenty six.
Speaker 1: I think they would have considered him if Greig knew someone.
Speaker 1: Iaded to write coremore on my sheet right now, Dane,
Speaker 1: we'll find out in two minutes and fifty three seconds.
Speaker 1: You never I don't think you've ever missed a pick.
Speaker 1: Except for that stiff quarterback that they took at USC
Speaker 1: that one year. How dare you suggest that Dane liked
Speaker 1: that pick. I thought he was gonna cry in the
Speaker 1: studio checkdown nobody, Dane. Dane the only quarterback I've seen
Speaker 1: not try to win a game in college football. And
Speaker 1: that was that was in the middle. Those are the
Speaker 1: Sasha years when the Browns were just throwing darts and
Speaker 1: Dane just deflated. Like, remember I walked I remember I
Speaker 1: walked into the studio and I told Dane, Hey, they're
Speaker 1: taking this quarterback for USC. Though they're not. I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: you're going to carry me the rest of that show.
Speaker 1: He was devastated. That was before we got a fine
Speaker 1: tuning on analytics and the Browns were like, man, what
Speaker 1: a sweet completion percentage will take him? He did? He
Speaker 1: completely took six minutes to get a touchdown in a
Speaker 1: two minute drive, is what he did. Yeah. I just
Speaker 1: irrationally hated him from that moment on. Yeah, I've never
Speaker 1: written coward in my notes before, but on that one,
Speaker 1: I wrote, coward didn't try to win game, not for me.
Speaker 1: We're terrible at this, aren't we. Oh, the Browns have
Speaker 1: traded up with Carolina and Dane, you said, you think
Speaker 1: it's Jai Oka here right, Well, I know that was
Speaker 1: a player that they were going to consider it twenty
Speaker 1: six if Greg Newsom wasn't on the board. But the
Speaker 1: fact that he's still there at fifty two, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's an interesting situation with him. Goodness. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's so many big name players that are still there,
Speaker 1: jok Joseph Facai, who we've talked about. If you also
Speaker 1: want to talk about the premium of what offensive tackles are,
Speaker 1: nine offensive tackles have gone in the first fifty one selections,
Speaker 1: and that's the most out of any other position in
Speaker 1: the draft so far. So if you talk about offensive tackle,
Speaker 1: that's certainly something that you could think about. Let's go
Speaker 1: ahead and take a break while the Browns are celebrating
Speaker 1: and there's plenty going on in Cleveland at the moment.
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Speaker 1: Only we didn't actually go anywhere right here with you
Speaker 1: exactly right, all of you loyal listeners, which Dane Okay,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, it's right. Here next to me, buddy, Thanks man,
Speaker 1: here you go. Um yeah, I figured thanks for announcing.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows. Wash your hands, Dane. I got a great
Speaker 1: question for you from uh Twitter listener named John Um
Speaker 1: Which three names that I like? No? Not Johama showed though,
Speaker 1: just John shout out to Johnama showed though, dude. Three
Speaker 1: names that I like a lot. Who you know we're
Speaker 1: talking about, like who could they pick? Who could they
Speaker 1: maybe move around for? Three names that I like a
Speaker 1: lot that I think have a good shot to get
Speaker 1: drafted tonight. Jamar Johnson, Yeah, Ronnie Perkins, Divine Diablo. How
Speaker 1: do we feel about that? And tell me when you
Speaker 1: think first like would they be in the well? They
Speaker 1: would have to be arranged for some of these Cowboys picks, right.
Speaker 1: I think I think Perkins is going somewhere in that
Speaker 1: late two early three. So does he get to your
Speaker 1: first third round pick? I don't know. I think Jonnard
Speaker 1: Johnson's gonna be probably available for at least the first
Speaker 1: two picks in the third round. Yeah. He just he
Speaker 1: won't tackle, but he can cover. The thing is I
Speaker 1: got Johnson in the fourth. You talked about Diablo I
Speaker 1: had in the third. Yeah, and who is the other one,
Speaker 1: Ronnie Perkins? Perkins, Yeah, I have him in the third two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he could go this round just because you know,
Speaker 1: past rush gets pushed up. But possibilities in a trade
Speaker 1: up situation, no doubt. Where would you draft Diablo early
Speaker 1: to mid third. I think that's probably where he's gonna
Speaker 1: end up going. Okay, that makes sense for him. I
Speaker 1: can live with that. Um, I don't, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: Diablo is more of a He's not a cover guy, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Teams look at him as almost like a linebacker's so
Speaker 1: and he's yeah, he's not. He's not probably what the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are looking for. But a lot of those guys
Speaker 1: are gone, right. I mean, you gotta do what you
Speaker 1: gotta do. By the way, the Browns at fifty two
Speaker 1: announcing their selection, and I have a really, really good
Speaker 1: feeling Dame Bugler's right about this one. I'm gonna love
Speaker 1: it if it's true. It might be if they were
Speaker 1: considering JEREMIAH'SU Cormo at twenty six. Oh man, what a
Speaker 1: pick this would be for the Browns. You can talk
Speaker 1: about that defense. The pick has been in for eighteen minutes.
Speaker 1: It really has and they're they've been making it for
Speaker 1: five It is jeremiahsu Cormo out of Notre Dame Dame Brugler.
Speaker 1: What you're scouting report? Uh? Well, is he going to
Speaker 1: be a safety or a linebacker for this team? Uh?
Speaker 1: That's the first question. Uh. Oh, I think he might
Speaker 1: be what they hoped you Bill Peppers would would have bet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know he's a better player than yeah. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean you could throw on the tape and see him
Speaker 1: blitzing off the edge. You could see him covering a
Speaker 1: slot receiver on the next play. Yeah, he could just
Speaker 1: do a little bit of everything. Now, he's still raw
Speaker 1: in some areas, but he is one of the most
Speaker 1: explosive players in this draft. And the medical stuff that
Speaker 1: Brian has mentioned is a little bit of an unknown
Speaker 1: right now. But just in terms of pure talent, I mean, geez,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a steal at this point, it's a
Speaker 1: huge steel. I mean, you talk about where Cleveland was
Speaker 1: in Dave, you and I talked about this off air,
Speaker 1: just how good of a situation the Browns are in
Speaker 1: as a roster and how many different directions you can go,
Speaker 1: even if there is a little bit of a medical
Speaker 1: concern with Jay. Okay, you take the risk here at
Speaker 1: fifty two to go and get a guy as talented
Speaker 1: as he is, or even if the concern is just
Speaker 1: like what do we do with him? Well, if you
Speaker 1: are out, yeah, exactly figure it out. See that's the
Speaker 1: problem that we've had with Remember the Simmons kid from
Speaker 1: Clemson last year. Yeah, you know, it's like such a
Speaker 1: good looking player. Gosh, the film is brilliant and he's running,
Speaker 1: he's tackling, he's in and then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: he gets the league and it's like is he a safety?
Speaker 1: Is he a slot player? Is he a linebacker? Is it?
Speaker 1: I mean it took him some time before they kind
Speaker 1: of tried to figure some things out with him. But
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, man, this kid's a heck of
Speaker 1: a football player for more. I mean, it's a shame
Speaker 1: if the if the if the situation with the cardiac
Speaker 1: tests and stuff that they need the information, if that's
Speaker 1: what's holding him back in this thing, man, what what
Speaker 1: a shame that is? So obviously if that's Cleveland, they
Speaker 1: you know what Cleveland clinic, right, Dane, aren't we It's
Speaker 1: a shame. It's a shame for everybody for the Browns,
Speaker 1: you know, because they get a steal here if Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying though, I mean that's they've obviously got
Speaker 1: some information that and everyone else is trying to figure
Speaker 1: it out. This this guy's tape is so much fun
Speaker 1: to watch. You can watch both nominal those Clemson games
Speaker 1: and stuff like that that this cat runs and makes.
Speaker 1: He has a tackle in South been in that Clemson
Speaker 1: game where he strips the ball guy. Yeah, he tackles. Yeah,
Speaker 1: explain this to me, Like I'm five, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that dumb thing where you compare an
Speaker 1: all pro to a guy that has n't played a
Speaker 1: snap yet, But like, why why can't he Why can't
Speaker 1: he be Jamal Adams? I mean I don't have a Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't have a good answer. Why not Jamal Adams
Speaker 1: doesn't cover? That's not what he' that's not why you
Speaker 1: know he actually cover? Right? I don't get it. I
Speaker 1: don't get it. Jeremiah Wusu Coramoa is off the board
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns and fifty two overall select the Notre
Speaker 1: Dame linebacker slash safety slash defensive powerhouse I mean all
Speaker 1: around Dame Brugler. We were talking about it on the
Speaker 1: internet side of things, but this is just a fantastic
Speaker 1: pick for the Browns. My talk runs player available. He
Speaker 1: was my number fifteen overall player in the draft, so wow,
Speaker 1: not bad. He's really explosive. He's one of the most
Speaker 1: explosive defenders in this draft. Can cover. He might be
Speaker 1: the best Blitzer, not pass rusher, but Blitzer in this
Speaker 1: draft can play out in space. It's just you have
Speaker 1: to have a plan for him and in certain personnel packages,
Speaker 1: and so you have to kind of coordinate your defense accordingly.
Speaker 1: There are some medical questions, like like Brian mentioned that,
Speaker 1: just a little bit of an unknown right now. But
Speaker 1: at this point in the draft, outside the top fifty,
Speaker 1: heck of a value for the Browns. I just and
Speaker 1: nobody listening to this doesn't like the draft, but people
Speaker 1: mock the draft and like, oh, nobody actually knows anything. Well,
Speaker 1: the Browns were the worst roster in football for most
Speaker 1: of the last decade, and right now they're one of
Speaker 1: the three best. Like topped bottom. Just hard to find
Speaker 1: a weakness with what they got going on there, and
Speaker 1: that allows them if there are questions about the medicals
Speaker 1: that allows them to take a chance on a guy
Speaker 1: like this who is super talented. You just might not
Speaker 1: have all of the information, and so that's what you
Speaker 1: try to do. You try to fill out your roster
Speaker 1: so you can take swings on good players, talented players
Speaker 1: who might have a few question marks. By the way,
Speaker 1: the Titans take tackle Dylan Redunce out of North Dakota State,
Speaker 1: second North Dakota State player, taking of course, Trey Lance
Speaker 1: goes number three overall to the San Francisco forty nine ers. Brian,
Speaker 1: I know you were really high on him early on, right,
Speaker 1: I mean you were quick to Redunce and what he
Speaker 1: brought to the table. Yeah, I sure was. And you know,
Speaker 1: and again you're the tape. I mean that program up
Speaker 1: there at heck Dane will tell you that they make
Speaker 1: a living down here now North Dakota State and the
Speaker 1: way that they the way they show up in these
Speaker 1: these championship games and stuff like that. But I was
Speaker 1: really I was suppressed. He's undersized weight wise, but it
Speaker 1: allows him to play light on his feet and this
Speaker 1: movement is outstanding. I don't see he wasted steps with him.
Speaker 1: He could get on his guy quickly he comes off
Speaker 1: the ball, he climbs that guy and he's but I think,
Speaker 1: you know, he's much better than the guys he's playing against.
Speaker 1: But you know that's not his fault. I mean the shield,
Speaker 1: the angle, the dry block. He could get movement, but
Speaker 1: when he gets to this guy, it's over. I mean,
Speaker 1: like I say, the fluid, the way he moves from
Speaker 1: the live scrimmage to ease all that stuff, the base
Speaker 1: body control. This guy doesn't play hurried at all. I mean,
Speaker 1: everything is very controlled, very measured. But he has had
Speaker 1: ability to kind of sit down on you and take
Speaker 1: you out of the play. So I like with the
Speaker 1: I like the pick here for the with the Titans,
Speaker 1: they had need a right tackle and this guy's a
Speaker 1: glass eater. Uh you know, he is a guy that's saying,
Speaker 1: oh the toughness. He is one of the meanest guys
Speaker 1: in the draft, nasty player. After the Isaiah Wilson debacle
Speaker 1: last year, the Titans drafted him to play right tackle.
Speaker 1: They go with the guy that's a complete opposite in
Speaker 1: terms of, you know, the football character and things like that. So, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I think that we're gonna say Raydon's step
Speaker 1: in pretty quickly and be the right tackle for the
Speaker 1: Titans towards a c l early in his red shirt
Speaker 1: freshman year, started every game since, So if you have
Speaker 1: an injury issue, don't because he started every game after that.
Speaker 1: And then he arrived at North Dakota State at only
Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty five pounds beefed up to three
Speaker 1: h four. Is that right day? Yep? Well, he actually
Speaker 1: got offers from Missouri and some from some Power five teams,
Speaker 1: but he stayed loyal to North Dakota State, who were
Speaker 1: on him early and stayed with him the entire way
Speaker 1: instead of bolting on signing day. He stayed true. And
Speaker 1: so there's something to be said about that. I want
Speaker 1: to go win some rings, you should probably go play Bison, right,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean it's it's it's Alabama and it's
Speaker 1: North Dakota State. You're probably gonna end up with a
Speaker 1: ring two or three. They play here in Frisco a
Speaker 1: lot too, by the which I believe it's Bison, not
Speaker 1: to be that. Excuse me, sorry, I got my Texan
Speaker 1: and which gets me being that, by no know, if
Speaker 1: you're ever in Frisco like out and about. But there's
Speaker 1: so many Suddenly there's a weight at a bar that
Speaker 1: you used to walking right into, and it just like, guy,
Speaker 1: it's come on with all the green. I used to
Speaker 1: I used to live right over by scruffy Duffies. They
Speaker 1: were there all the time. Shouts out to the Bison. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Bison, like almost with a z. Yeah, Bison. It
Speaker 1: looks like it's like Green Bay or something with all
Speaker 1: the green. And that's true. Hey, they like the yellow.
Speaker 1: I'm green up north a little bit. Indianapolis is on
Speaker 1: the clock at fifty four. I mean, still plenty of
Speaker 1: spots to go until the Cowboys start thinking about their
Speaker 1: next three picks seventy five, eighty four, the pick in
Speaker 1: which they got for trading back to Micah Parsons at twelve,
Speaker 1: and then they've got ninety nine coming up in the
Speaker 1: third round as well. I know we don't cover the Colts,
Speaker 1: but I thought it was really weird that they passed
Speaker 1: on in an opportunity to draft a really good offensive
Speaker 1: tackle last night. Was there a really good offensive tackle there?
Speaker 1: Derrisau was still there, was he not? Yeah? He was? Um,
Speaker 1: that's that's fair. I don't know that they obviously, we
Speaker 1: don't know if they thought good. Yeah, good point. So
Speaker 1: but with with Costanzo retiring, I know it's never as
Speaker 1: simple as just connecting the dots, but probably want a
Speaker 1: clean pocket for Carson Wentz because things are bad when
Speaker 1: he doesn't have one. Well, and it might have come
Speaker 1: down to do you take the left tackle here or
Speaker 1: do you'd go with probably the best player on the board,
Speaker 1: which is likely Quitty Pay you know, a guy we
Speaker 1: thought could go top fifteen um his pass rusher. That's
Speaker 1: that's been a need of that on that team as well.
Speaker 1: So interesting decision there, And what do they do now
Speaker 1: at left tackle? Is there another left tackle they could go? Uh?
Speaker 1: You know, cause me Raidins. We've seen a bunch of
Speaker 1: Walker Little, We've seen a bunch of the tackles come
Speaker 1: off the board. Is that run completely done? Brady Christensen
Speaker 1: still there? Yeah, Brady Christensen would be my next best guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's my best tackle too. Chris Ballard loves athletic testers,
Speaker 1: and Brady Christensen certainly checks that box. Yeah. Ten different
Speaker 1: offensive tackles have gone I mean, top eight guys on
Speaker 1: my board, and then Jackson Carman a little bit further down,
Speaker 1: Jalen Mayfield in that conversation as well. Maybe he's kind
Speaker 1: of a tweener. Yeah, yeah, I mean he only played
Speaker 1: tackle in college, but I think he's a guard. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Good point, Brady christians In, Like you guys mentioned, trying
Speaker 1: to think down the board a little bit more here
Speaker 1: with the next couple of picks, because the Colts go
Speaker 1: at fifty four, Steelers at fifty five Seahawks, which, by
Speaker 1: the way, that's a pick from the Cowboys that they
Speaker 1: actually grabbed fifty six fifty seven from the Rams. The
Speaker 1: Chiefs hold fifty eight fifty nine with Cleveland, and then
Speaker 1: the Saints at sixty. As we await the Colts selection
Speaker 1: at fifty four, how are we feeling right now after
Speaker 1: the first two picks of this draft for the Cowboys?
Speaker 1: Is it's actually Vanderbilt defensive in help me with the
Speaker 1: saying here, Dane Oh, dangbo A dangbo. That's a lot
Speaker 1: easier than I thought I was going to be. And
Speaker 1: this is a this is a basically a future pick.
Speaker 1: Because he tore his achilles in January, I'm probably gonna
Speaker 1: miss a good chunk of the season based on talent alone,
Speaker 1: this is a player that you know, we would have
Speaker 1: been talking about as maybe sneaks into the first round.
Speaker 1: So here we are. It turns out doesn't doesn't hurt
Speaker 1: him too much. He ends up going fifty four overall.
Speaker 1: He could end up being the best three technique in
Speaker 1: this class as a guy that kind of played you say,
Speaker 1: mostly edge at Vanderbands. Yeah, but like watching him play
Speaker 1: when he gets to the interior, I'm like, who game
Speaker 1: ten pounds and that dude might be a game wrecker
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Yeah. I felt so bad for this kid.
Speaker 1: He's the best player on a defense. It's always under attack.
Speaker 1: You know, what does it mean? Oh no, they're they're
Speaker 1: always on the field. Hey, what does that mean? It
Speaker 1: means they're getting pummeled by better teams all the time.
Speaker 1: Everybody's always under a ten and he's the one that
Speaker 1: commands the most attention. And the first I watched the
Speaker 1: Old Miss game and it looked like he finally had
Speaker 1: enough of his teammates. Seriously, I mean he's like looking
Speaker 1: at them like, you know, they give up a touchdown.
Speaker 1: He's looking around and he's probably saying, listen to hear you,
Speaker 1: m effort. Somebody needs to make a play out here,
Speaker 1: Like Marcus Peters back in the day. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: he is. Seriously, I don't think Vanderbilt won a game
Speaker 1: a game last year. I don't. I don't believe they did.
Speaker 1: I don't think. Yeah, they got fired. And again, this kid,
Speaker 1: he's from Irving, Texas. Eric good for him. But I'll
Speaker 1: tell you this though, like I felt sorry for him
Speaker 1: because he was always fighting. He just kept fighting. And
Speaker 1: you know, but for a tall guy, he's got some
Speaker 1: redirection skills and stuff like that. Get up the field,
Speaker 1: come back down, he can make the play. There's some
Speaker 1: snaps where he was just a little late getting to
Speaker 1: that quarterback, but when he does get in the position,
Speaker 1: this cat can finish. Hey, good for him Indianapolis. They'll
Speaker 1: take care of him, even with the adversity that he
Speaker 1: faced in terms of the teammates around him. I mean,
Speaker 1: those are good numbers that he put up one hundred
Speaker 1: twenty five tackles, thirty one tackles for loss in his
Speaker 1: career and then twelve sacks to go along with it.
Speaker 1: And I mean we've heard of time and time again
Speaker 1: from scouts and Bucky Brooks. Brian brought us and guys
Speaker 1: like that on the Draft Show. But if you get
Speaker 1: in the back yield in college, you're probably gonna do
Speaker 1: it in the NFL, especially whenever you didn't have a
Speaker 1: whole lot around you to work with against your competition,
Speaker 1: he was able to still be still be able to produce,
Speaker 1: and I think that's something plus. Hey, like you said
Speaker 1: in the shadow of the old Texas Stadium at Irving, Texas,
Speaker 1: Carrollton Ranch View product, that's fun. Here's a tight end
Speaker 1: off the board, only the second one to go. Of course,
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts went at four. Pittsburgh selects Pat Friar Muth
Speaker 1: out of pin State Steelers. This is like a very
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two draft. Nagy Harris in the first round,
Speaker 1: Pat Friar Muth here in the second walking tight end
Speaker 1: that didn't really get open. I kind of hate it,
Speaker 1: if I'm being honest. I said it's gonna be the
Speaker 1: next pick, getting ready. They should have just thrown literally
Speaker 1: two darts at the offensive line board and pick two
Speaker 1: of them and they'd probably been better off. I feel
Speaker 1: bad for Nagy Harris. Hey, we want to run the
Speaker 1: ball better, so we're gonna pick a running back instead
Speaker 1: of fixing our line. At least they picked somebody who
Speaker 1: could block, block for him. Yeah, the block form the
Speaker 1: theme of the first two picks. They have a small
Speaker 1: window here with big Ben, and they're going for it,
Speaker 1: and it's short sighted. It's probably not the best long
Speaker 1: term way to do this, but don't be honest. Okay, No,
Speaker 1: this is genius though, because Ben also is terrified to
Speaker 1: throw it more than four yards down field. So you
Speaker 1: get him a big tight end and a running back,
Speaker 1: so he's gonna have ninety receptions didn't have Probably they
Speaker 1: know their person up. Those are some of my favorite numbers.
Speaker 1: Was like, the the average depth of target for all
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh receivers is like last in the league, second
Speaker 1: to last, third to last, So Pittsburgh, good luck. Hey,
Speaker 1: they resigned Juju though, so that's good. He's real good
Speaker 1: at running a one yard route, so that that that
Speaker 1: works great. Sometimes you're afraid to move on from your quarterback.
Speaker 1: You know that's happening. I also call quarterbacks washed and
Speaker 1: then it doesn't work out. But Ben's that Ben is washed?
Speaker 1: Would Ben be washed if he had an offensive line
Speaker 1: that could do anything for him? Yeah, he's just shot.
Speaker 1: He's old and kind of fat and can't really throw
Speaker 1: the ball like he's having a tough time of it.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you, but for all you folks
Speaker 1: are listening from Pittsburgh, we appreciate your having out with us.
Speaker 1: We promise it gets better. Man, we get a quarterback,
Speaker 1: you guys are gonna be in good shape. I'm talking
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Speaker 1: all of you from inside the DFW Metriplex as well,
Speaker 1: stand up DFWA Metroplex. Now, anybody's surprised with players that
Speaker 1: are still on their board, anybody that sticks out as
Speaker 1: a blinking light that, oh my gosh, they're still here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Nick Bolton see, and I don't know if that's a
Speaker 1: massive surprise. He sure, it's just Kinny Cover. Just watch
Speaker 1: the tape. It's just Kinney Cover. That's that's the question.
Speaker 1: We don't always round watch the college tape of him
Speaker 1: getting to college players like that. I think that's a
Speaker 1: reasonable concern, to be completely honest with you. I know,
Speaker 1: forty is not everything. Yeah, but it's a slow linebacker.
Speaker 1: I don't worry about his speed at all. I don't
Speaker 1: worry about his speed in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 1: Well how many times and I said this the other
Speaker 1: day about this kid. It was on with the UK
Speaker 1: The UK Cowboy folks over in Lennon, by the way,
Speaker 1: shout out to them, great James are amazing job. Appreciate
Speaker 1: you guys having us. Okay, every time I'm watching his
Speaker 1: kid play, though, it's like he's like, get there, get there,
Speaker 1: get there, get there, and he's there. You know. It's
Speaker 1: like there's plays he makes during a game where you're like,
Speaker 1: you don't think he has a chance in hell getting there,
Speaker 1: and he runs that thing down. He doesn't have four
Speaker 1: to six game speed. His four six that he ranty
Speaker 1: isn't accurate to what you see on You know what. Fine,
Speaker 1: If I was there, if I was timing him and
Speaker 1: I like him as much as I did, you know
Speaker 1: what I would do Dave right him at thirty eight
Speaker 1: how many time? How many yards to get him thirty
Speaker 1: eight yards? Yeah, hey, Brian, would that kid run four four? Three? Guys?
Speaker 1: You need to put him up there in the top
Speaker 1: of that second round there, you know, I hate. I
Speaker 1: hate to be that guy. And I like Nick Bolton.
Speaker 1: I watched him. I just it's it's different in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Everybody's a little bit faster in the NFL. You see it.
Speaker 1: If I see a six on your forty time, I
Speaker 1: get a little nervous. I get a little bit nervous,
Speaker 1: that's all. I think. There's a lot of linebackers that
Speaker 1: run four four that if you stand them in the
Speaker 1: same spot, you're on the same play. He beats him
Speaker 1: to the ball every play. You I've heard you say
Speaker 1: that on the Draft show. Believe I guess we'll see,
Speaker 1: like it'll be a fun thing to chart. I just
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying he's a bad player, but I
Speaker 1: I'm not completely surprised that NFL teams are dinging him
Speaker 1: if that's why they are, because they're all cowards. No,
Speaker 1: I mean, would get good football players takes He takes
Speaker 1: it personally, take it personally, I do. These teams don't
Speaker 1: care what I think. Hey, Kyle Shanhan said, I might
Speaker 1: be dead Sunday. I'm just trying to do the best
Speaker 1: of God. I'm still making it or making it day
Speaker 1: to the airport. I mean, yes, you took this all
Speaker 1: the way down to zero because they were trying like
Speaker 1: hell to get out right. Yeah, yeah, there's no way,
Speaker 1: there's no way they want to make this take an
Speaker 1: edge in this entire ye. There's no way they wanted
Speaker 1: they were trying to eat up right now. Yeah, let's uh,
Speaker 1: let's step aside, take our final break. We're going into
Speaker 1: our number three. You're listening to the twenty twenty one
Speaker 1: NFL Draft on one on five three the Fan and
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com, and we're back on the d
Speaker 1: or the dot com side of things. Glad you're with us.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the Seahawks taking this thing all the way
Speaker 1: down pretty impressive, Brian, that they were able to eat
Speaker 1: this clock up in the middle of the second round.
Speaker 1: There's some games they wish they could have eaten the
Speaker 1: clock up that well. But yeah, I think that was
Speaker 1: a shot. Yeah, no, like it. Hey, my guy's John Snyder.
Speaker 1: We know that. I mean John, I love the man,
Speaker 1: and I you know, we'll see. So he's always has
Speaker 1: an interesting track though. He always does something like why
Speaker 1: did you take that? Guy? Well, why not? I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: just like ask for shot, Penny, I'm okay, how is
Speaker 1: he gonna help out Russell Wilson at this point man
Speaker 1: probably with another running back. Now he's he's gonna take
Speaker 1: a defensive end here, He's gonna take a defensive lineman.
Speaker 1: That's what he always does. Bash him. Could be the
Speaker 1: pick here. I'm just guessing, totally guessing on this wide receiver.
Speaker 1: Look for him. That's a good pick too. I like
Speaker 1: ye wide receiver out of Western Michigan. And you're not
Speaker 1: gonna You're gonna try to not let Russ cook, and
Speaker 1: you're gonna run him out there with Lockett, Metcalf and Eskridge.
Speaker 1: That's fun boy. Russ is about to check out at
Speaker 1: every run play and I am here for it. I
Speaker 1: mean pure speed with him, and you know he can
Speaker 1: win downfield, catch the ball outside his frame. Uh, He's
Speaker 1: just a little small, but the speed is legit. Both
Speaker 1: before and after the catch. He can get open and
Speaker 1: then put on the after burners and create. So I
Speaker 1: think that anywhere on in the top seventy five, top eight,
Speaker 1: he made sense. A little surprised Seattle took him here,
Speaker 1: but I love it was. He the most fun player
Speaker 1: in terms of the wide receivers to watch at the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl because he wasn't there him Tony. It was
Speaker 1: probably Tony, yeah, but but he didn't play a ton right.
Speaker 1: He was a little banged up on that ankle. No,
Speaker 1: he played and he practiced the first three days. That's fair,
Speaker 1: But I mean Escridge was right there with him, and
Speaker 1: Escridge he dominated and he basically said after three practice,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm done. I showed enough, and he did.
Speaker 1: He played outstanding. And all those receivers really played at
Speaker 1: a high level, but Escridge definitely stood out. By the way,
Speaker 1: that's the eighth receiver off the board. Some of the
Speaker 1: other receivers that you could potentially Terrace Marshall Junior out
Speaker 1: of LSU A Monra Saint Brown is still available, Diami
Speaker 1: Brown out of North Carolina, Thailand Wallace, who a lot
Speaker 1: of people had a third round grade on Kay Johnson,
Speaker 1: Nico collins Man. There is another such good wide receiver class.
Speaker 1: I gotta throw my guy in there to Jaylen Darden
Speaker 1: out of North Texas, but he's probably not gonna go today.
Speaker 1: Who what was that? Who? Come on, I'll represent kat
Speaker 1: not it could have gotten a Mountain Union like you,
Speaker 1: right hey, Gie fun against the University of Mary Harden
Speaker 1: Baylor over there. I've watched the tape Simmons Mary Harden Baylor.
Speaker 1: They played, Oh it's our it's our guy from a
Speaker 1: guy from Whitewater. Okay, minor he played. I watched the
Speaker 1: play against a playoff game against Mary Hartman Baylor, m
Speaker 1: h Mary Harden Baylor. Yeah, I'll get that right one
Speaker 1: of these games. Okay. I was looking for the bound
Speaker 1: bounce house. They didn't have that. I'm hoping we see
Speaker 1: miners here pretty soon. I think the record for a
Speaker 1: D three players sixty one, so I'm hoping we hear
Speaker 1: mine Ali Marpett, No, um, what's his name? I can't remember?
Speaker 1: Mark Pett was a little bit later, but close. Dan
Speaker 1: forgot a name. Yeah, ran from the three guy from
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy four, and you can't think of his name. No, Derek,
Speaker 1: if you're don't say that. I don't say that because eventually, No,
Speaker 1: we need you for tomorrow. Tomorrow over the quarter donuts.
Speaker 1: So why you do this draft? Where those where those
Speaker 1: muffins at that we're here? Earlier it was the pretty tomorrow? Yeah,
Speaker 1: are we getting at the stubs tomorrow? I talked to
Speaker 1: dal Ripple. He was he's getting maybe I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I need to go out to compel myself.
Speaker 1: Whatever Dane wants for breakfast, yeah, I will go get
Speaker 1: because breakfast tacos is Rudy's, Rudy's breakfast. I'll do that
Speaker 1: for had that before. I don't know, but it's done.
Speaker 1: Whatever you want, because my plan is to say thirty
Speaker 1: eight words tomorrow, but I'll be here so I might
Speaker 1: as well feed Dane. That's right up, thank you? Is
Speaker 1: it Rudy's breakfast Tacos that you want? Really good? All right?
Speaker 1: That he's stranded at the hotel too, man, let's not
Speaker 1: act like he's struggling. He's not at the motel. My god.
Speaker 1: Everybody in the hallway's like, oh, that's Dane Brugler. Stay.
Speaker 1: You can stay at the house if you want to
Speaker 1: come back and stream and drink whiskey and Miller Lte
Speaker 1: until the sun comes up and then come draft them up. Yet,
Speaker 1: nothing going on tomorrow. I got home. I got home
Speaker 1: last night, market ready. I got a home last night,
Speaker 1: and I was like, man, I'm gonna I'm gonna update
Speaker 1: my spreadsheet, go to bed, and I look at my
Speaker 1: Twitch notifications and it's Jeff Cavanaugh streaming war Zone again
Speaker 1: last night. YouTube and Twitch never stopped. You got to
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Speaker 1: We are at pick number fifty seven the second round
Speaker 1: of the NFL Draft. The Los Angeles Rams are on
Speaker 1: the clock. Most recent picks were fifty five Pat Friar
Speaker 1: Muth from Penn State to tight end Dwayne Scridge, wide
Speaker 1: receiver from Western Michigan. What are you saying wow for
Speaker 1: over there, welcome to the draft rams. Yeah, they're here
Speaker 1: right thread lest sneeds got COVID Did I see that? Yeah? Yesterday?
Speaker 1: Oh is he at the beach house drafting with everybody else? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He locked up in the in the little poolhouse out
Speaker 1: They got the little coach up. They're making these picks.
Speaker 1: This could be crazy. It's gonna be Sean McVay all
Speaker 1: by himself his hand. I mean, if you're gonna be
Speaker 1: quarantined somehow, that's all offense. Yeah, just take a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: That's always the right play fifty seven. There are a
Speaker 1: lot of wide receivers still laugh. We talked about that
Speaker 1: on com Cyrus Marshall, Oh, Terrace Marshall, there would be dangerous.
Speaker 1: It's two. I was gonna say two too, because he's fun,
Speaker 1: but I didn't know if he would go early. Seems
Speaker 1: so high for a guy who weighs one hundred and
Speaker 1: forty five pounds. You must not be on social media enough.
Speaker 1: Two two did another way in the other day, and
Speaker 1: he showed that he had no pockets and his sweatpants
Speaker 1: shoes and he stepped on one six zero. Two Two's
Speaker 1: ready to rock. He's up to one six six pounds
Speaker 1: pound Smith, who everybody thinks is gonna break in the NFL. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but DeVante's over six foot this is this is five
Speaker 1: eight sothing like he's rocked up. Now. This is Sean
Speaker 1: McVay pick though, Like I look at this and I
Speaker 1: think Sean McVeagh, I mean brought jump, yes, Like are
Speaker 1: they about to play this astin for him? This is
Speaker 1: Taylor Austin. I mean, I think he's more than that
Speaker 1: because he's he won him going vertically right, and I
Speaker 1: think he tracks the ball. He's Hollywood Brown. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: he's he's a good received. I agree with you. I
Speaker 1: just wondered it's talking side by this Mcveighan McVeigh could
Speaker 1: not do anything with Tavon Austin. I wonder if he
Speaker 1: just picked a similar type of a player, well, like
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford can throw it a mile two two, can
Speaker 1: get behind the defense and run a mile. So his
Speaker 1: film's fun. By the way, I thought it. Two nineteen
Speaker 1: stuff was better than his twenty twenty stuff. Um. I
Speaker 1: wasn't as impressed with his twenty twenty film, but the
Speaker 1: nineteen film was. I couldn't tell what I was looking
Speaker 1: at it was in this COVID situation, you have to
Speaker 1: not opt it out or in Sean McVeigh has a
Speaker 1: framed portrait of Goodell in the living room of this house,
Speaker 1: kidding me, a vacation home. It isn't. Aren't they at
Speaker 1: the beach house? Maybe that was in the airbnb when
Speaker 1: they got there. Said wow, that's two. Two was a
Speaker 1: really interesting guy, because I believe it was twenty twenty
Speaker 1: that I was watching, and I went into it thinking
Speaker 1: I was going to be watching this like four two
Speaker 1: guys that you got to hit him in the chest
Speaker 1: and he I was surprised because tiny guys when you
Speaker 1: don't have to make a perfect throw. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's like a full sized person, like out in front
Speaker 1: of him and above his head and he's able to
Speaker 1: kind of extend and grab it. He was a more
Speaker 1: well rounded player than I thought he would be. Going
Speaker 1: in like, I thought I was gonna be watching a
Speaker 1: gadget guy, and I was like, oh, that's a real
Speaker 1: life wide receiver. Yeah. So our friends on the television,
Speaker 1: it looked like the comp they were using for him
Speaker 1: was jachiem Grant, our friend out of Texas Tech from
Speaker 1: a few years ago. Is that sound? That's why I
Speaker 1: called Garden too. I thought he would do mean green right,
Speaker 1: but two two out, Well, I think he's Hollywood Brown,
Speaker 1: who was a first round pick a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: But you know, he has some drops. He's not the
Speaker 1: most diverse receiver. But speed doesn't have size obviously, but
Speaker 1: he has speed to burn and that's really what's the
Speaker 1: difference maker for him. What were his times? What did
Speaker 1: he run? I'm trying to look it up at the moment.
Speaker 1: I think they said he ran in the four threes,
Speaker 1: didn't they. I believe it's going to be in the
Speaker 1: four threes three five, one, four nine split, which is
Speaker 1: one of the best out of the wide receiver group.
Speaker 1: Actually the best that I've got written down here. By
Speaker 1: the way, you don't had the best ten yards split
Speaker 1: this year. Who boss man fat? That would be keep
Speaker 1: giving me reasons. That would be Kelvin Joseph. If you're not,
Speaker 1: we need to catch everybody up. That would be the
Speaker 1: Cowboys second round pick cornerback who's awesome as long as
Speaker 1: he like works hard and stuff, comes to practice, get
Speaker 1: it right like not like by the end of the weekend,
Speaker 1: get rid of Garrett. Hey, they wanted to be fast,
Speaker 1: they're fast. You get rid of Garrett, you get a
Speaker 1: real football team. You know. I actually I actually thought
Speaker 1: about this to myself out there walking today about about
Speaker 1: forty five months ago. I was thinking, No, seriously, like Burger,
Speaker 1: you gotta laugh at that one, Huh. I didn't have
Speaker 1: to live. No, I'm just thinking, what is he gonna do?
Speaker 1: What you gotta laugh? What's Garrett gonna do with Cadarius Tony, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know how it's gonna work having block for Sorry,
Speaker 1: welcome to the team, Cadarius, show me how you block.
Speaker 1: It's help me. He's gonna take it. Brown Rule. We're
Speaker 1: so far we can't even see the road anymore, and
Speaker 1: we're so far in the weeds. It's funny homes Hey, guy,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm talking about. Chiefs. That is what I
Speaker 1: am talking about. Chiefs linebacker out of Missouri for no
Speaker 1: Texas draft pick. Got it? That feels say that when
Speaker 1: the guy we didn't say, oh, Brian, I mocked into
Speaker 1: Kansas City for you. Yeah, you said he was awful,
Speaker 1: baby jerk. He's my thirty ninth rateked player. All right,
Speaker 1: you know what sixth round I'll take them. I'll tie
Speaker 1: this into the Cowboys and just say that like that.
Speaker 1: That's the air to Anthony Hitchins right there, which is
Speaker 1: to say just solid just makes tackles like that makes
Speaker 1: every tackle. Oh, we'll see it in the NFL. I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to hate on Dave's teams. Get this, others don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to hate. Do you see what sit
Speaker 1: behind their behind their wall, it's a Super Bowl champs, Yeah,
Speaker 1: said on their board home. It's not because of any
Speaker 1: guard for them. Yeah. They they they got Steve spagnulacallon defenses,
Speaker 1: and they got guys like Nick Bolton coming in their mind.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna force y'all to talk about the Cowboys for
Speaker 1: one second because going back to your point about Jason Garrett,
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this. You know, we heard a
Speaker 1: lot of we heard a lot of buzzwords about like
Speaker 1: culture guys heading into this draft, like changing the culture. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't. I mean you could argue that they kind
Speaker 1: of did. No, you could argue that they kind of
Speaker 1: did because in the way of like, these guys got
Speaker 1: some s to them. Yeah, if you if you take
Speaker 1: my meaning absolutely, like and I don't want to say
Speaker 1: they're not the wrong kind of guys. But like, going
Speaker 1: back to the Jim Garrett thing, Jason Garrett often seemed
Speaker 1: like he was looking for boy scouts, right, but didn't
Speaker 1: you always Jim Garrett said, I'm saying Jason Garrett often
Speaker 1: looked for boy scouts. Would you say that's fair disrespectful
Speaker 1: to his father? Not Jim Randy Moss give him credit
Speaker 1: for that. These guys aren't boy scouts, and I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to like applaud them for that, but you wanted
Speaker 1: that forever, Brian. You were like, give me the guys
Speaker 1: with the chip on their shoulder, and give me that
Speaker 1: bad like he's a he's a bad guy. So Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett's not gonna draft him. Well, that narrative is not here,
Speaker 1: right may we started talking about, well he's got some
Speaker 1: character questions, like, well, he's not gonna be playing for us,
Speaker 1: So maybe maybe we misread Maybe they maybe they just
Speaker 1: want some dogs. You know. Michael Parsons was in the
Speaker 1: he did his introductory presser today and he was like,
Speaker 1: I hate to lose. I want to beat good at bowling,
Speaker 1: I want to beat you at chess. So I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe that way he wants he wants to learn how
Speaker 1: to cook crawfish. He wants to talk to him. Yeah, nice,
Speaker 1: he says. Maybe that Jeff, He's like, yeah, I'll come
Speaker 1: to crawfish, boil you guys. I would have learned how
Speaker 1: to cook him. Let's bring all right, let's He's like,
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I'm in. What are you doing Memorial
Speaker 1: Day weekend? I've also said I wanted to learn that
Speaker 1: nobody's in every day. I have a nice, little passive
Speaker 1: aggressive it was. It was a little Yeoman's over. He
Speaker 1: was a little pat right for a while. Kyle. You know,
Speaker 1: see you've invited me to golf. But I mean, when
Speaker 1: crawfish comes around this crickets, we could we could crawfish
Speaker 1: and there's only sounds great to me. That's true. Fair,
Speaker 1: I won't but I think you're mean to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they've they've got a team that's got some edge.
Speaker 1: Well the first two pigs. These guys have got some
Speaker 1: That's that's that point I'm trying to make. Yeah. Now,
Speaker 1: this is a question from Mark Bristow on Twitter. This
Speaker 1: is just kind of interesting. He says, better prospect Treyvon
Speaker 1: Diggs or Kelvin Joseph in terms of cornerbacks selected in
Speaker 1: the second round. Of course, Joseph was picked to forty
Speaker 1: four this year, Diggs last year at fifty one. Who
Speaker 1: was the better prospect between the two? Where would you
Speaker 1: rank m T I would say Joseph. I liked Joseph better.
Speaker 1: Now what about not? Yeah, it's stuff that I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, like it's it's true, it's off the field,
Speaker 1: like where you can't necessarily. I know that his music
Speaker 1: is good and I enjoy listening to it, so I'm
Speaker 1: big on that, and I don't like, I hate that
Speaker 1: the NFL is like, oh, You've got all off the
Speaker 1: field things that you really like and that hurts your stock.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, if I was really running
Speaker 1: a team, I'd be like, I really want you to
Speaker 1: only care about football, So I get it. But when
Speaker 1: you're talking about you know what happened with multiple coaching staff,
Speaker 1: so like, yeah, that's concerning. But with what I know
Speaker 1: from watching them play football, I would say that Kelvin
Speaker 1: josephs a better prospect. Dan, how do you feel about that?
Speaker 1: That's tough. I think that they're pretty they're pretty closely ranked.
Speaker 1: I would probably lean Diggs as a prospect and I
Speaker 1: would lean Joseph as a talent. If that makes sense,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. And that's what I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: is I get Jeff's point, but you can't. You gotta
Speaker 1: take the whole picture into account. And I'd say Digs
Speaker 1: because he good player who came with no questions whatsoever,
Speaker 1: Like we didn't have a ten minute dialogue about it.
Speaker 1: He just have something recently happened to him. That's I mean,
Speaker 1: that's an interesting point, and it's that's dicey because like
Speaker 1: does that bring you into like, oh wait, he sometimes
Speaker 1: makes bad decisions like everybody else in life. I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: I think every twenty two year old rich, any twenty
Speaker 1: two year old guy makes bad decisions, but especially if
Speaker 1: you have a lot of money. Sure I don't, but
Speaker 1: I like, nothing concrete has come out of that, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean That I've just says two weeks ago,
Speaker 1: and I haven't heard a word about it. I'm with
Speaker 1: you on this, So I think, Joseph, I just think
Speaker 1: if you talk about talent, if you want you talk
Speaker 1: about hey, walk over and cover that guy. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I think Joseph walks over and covers that game. You're
Speaker 1: making me like this pick more and more every time
Speaker 1: we talk about it. If you think he's a better
Speaker 1: player than Diggs, well, I'm doing radio with you, Dave,
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting and not sitting in the draft rooms.
Speaker 1: That might need you to think about that different. That's true.
Speaker 1: Waiting on the Carolina pick at fifty nine. This is
Speaker 1: a pick that they secured from the Browns a little
Speaker 1: bit early. On Another question on Twitter while I'm on here,
Speaker 1: how about Cisco as a free safety? This is or
Speaker 1: actually for Jeff Kavanaugh's purposes, how about Divine Diablo as
Speaker 1: a hybrid between the two? So Cisco and Diablo, what
Speaker 1: do you think about those two? At maybe seventy five? Okay,
Speaker 1: you got your hybrid guy right already, Keana Neil, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got your hybrid guy. Do you we need to
Speaker 1: add another hybrid? He Let's go get a real true
Speaker 1: free sac right. He's a solid player, but I don't
Speaker 1: think he fits exactly what they're looking for. Cisco is
Speaker 1: just he's just so much feast for famine on his tape,
Speaker 1: and you know that makes me more sad than a famine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, like at safety, Marshall, you can't be unreliable
Speaker 1: as the last line of defense. Yeah, I wonder why.
Speaker 1: I wonder why Terris Marshall's going to Carolina. Yeah, sink
Speaker 1: about who's the OC he's there? Yeah, great point. They
Speaker 1: lost Curtis Samuel and they had a different type of receiver.
Speaker 1: Harris Marshall's a better player than Curtis Samuel. I'm a homer.
Speaker 1: I don't care he's I don't disagree. All three of
Speaker 1: those receivers are fantastic. If Terris Marshall had gone in
Speaker 1: the first round, it would have been a good pick.
Speaker 1: I think I heard Tennessee really really liked him at
Speaker 1: twenty two. But there's some medical thing that we're dealing
Speaker 1: with him. Sorry, his knee deemed okay. We had him.
Speaker 1: We had him mocked the other day in our second
Speaker 1: round mock. We had him at sixty to the Saints.
Speaker 1: So the selection, so, I mean, this is right around
Speaker 1: where we thought he was gonna go. We're doing It's
Speaker 1: almost like that sometimes sometimes what do you get out
Speaker 1: of Terroris Marshall? Though here Dane, because I mean, like
Speaker 1: you said, a different type of receiver, But this is
Speaker 1: a baller. I mean a guy that this is a
Speaker 1: very wide receiver class that's actually pretty pretty undersized, but
Speaker 1: he's one of the opposite He's a big, big athlete
Speaker 1: who can run. He's got four four oh speed, a
Speaker 1: little unrefined as a route runner, but he could play inside,
Speaker 1: can play outside, and it's easy to overlook him when
Speaker 1: you talk about Justin Jefferson Jamar Chase. He had double
Speaker 1: digit touchdown catches each of the last two years, which
Speaker 1: you know is pretty impressive. I know some scouts were
Speaker 1: kind of put off that he opted out the week
Speaker 1: of the Alabama game. Uh that the knee was but
Speaker 1: that's if you ding him for that, you didn't will
Speaker 1: pay attention to LSU season. That guy went out there
Speaker 1: did everything. Yeah, well, I mean you're getting crushed by
Speaker 1: two LSU guys. Yeah, because we'll pass about they would
Speaker 1: throw him the ball fifteen times and then he'd make
Speaker 1: fourteen catches and then it's like they put the whole
Speaker 1: defense on him and they still couldn't do anything with
Speaker 1: anybody others. Truth about, you finish the job. Yeah. The
Speaker 1: other thing that bothered it is just he the effort
Speaker 1: as a blocker was terrible. But I think as a talent,
Speaker 1: it's easy to like this guy. Uh, as long as
Speaker 1: the medicals are okay, this could be a steel So
Speaker 1: the n the knee was a concern for you though
Speaker 1: right day, Not for me, but for teams. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I will. I think it was. I think they played
Speaker 1: Arkansas Terrists got up and like gave it. But he
Speaker 1: gave like a speech to the team about staying committed,
Speaker 1: and then they played and he was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: screw you guys. I'm not risking my life against Alabama.
Speaker 1: And I don't blame him one bit. He's actually started
Speaker 1: to play it better. Hey, he did it. He did
Speaker 1: it with true freshman quarterbacks. Last What a miracle season
Speaker 1: that was. Go go get him, Terriss. It'll be way
Speaker 1: more fun next year than it was. No struggle to
Speaker 1: struggle just to get happy. We paid, We paid for
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen in a big way. Yeah, you want a
Speaker 1: National champions played for sure? One Louisiana guy too. Who's
Speaker 1: going to be the newest Louisiana guys? The New Orleans
Speaker 1: Saints are on the clock. Let's step aside. You're listening
Speaker 1: to the twenty twenty one NFL Draft on one on
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Speaker 1: And by the way, Pete Warner, linebacker out of Ohio's state,
Speaker 1: is off the board. Brian likes it. Yeah, yeah, David,
Speaker 1: if you got him, go ahead, I mean, I'll Werner's
Speaker 1: uh for me. He's a little bit of a slow
Speaker 1: burn just in terms of appreciating what he does because
Speaker 1: nothing really stands out about him. But he just doesn't
Speaker 1: have a ton of holes in his game. He's not
Speaker 1: an a lead athlete. He's uh, you know, but he
Speaker 1: can cover, uh you know, he can blitz. He's a
Speaker 1: reliable guy, former safety who's just been a solid player
Speaker 1: for Ohio State. Played inside player outside. So he comes
Speaker 1: in as a guy that will probably never make a
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, but he's gonna be a solid starter for
Speaker 1: the Saints, who just love it, uh collecting these Ohio
Speaker 1: State players. I'll tell you what, Man, this guy has
Speaker 1: been a safety, He's been a special teamer. He's a
Speaker 1: superpress of the way he's around player. Yeah, he's a
Speaker 1: tackling machine. I mean, I'm watching that tape and I'm going, man,
Speaker 1: he is making every one of these. He's number twenty.
Speaker 1: He's a powerful guy. He is not afraid to lay
Speaker 1: the hammer to a ballcare downhill player when he sees it,
Speaker 1: He's want to get it. And I think he has
Speaker 1: a nice feel for how to play in coverage. We
Speaker 1: always talk about these linebackers that have that can play
Speaker 1: in coverage, and I think I think the secondary part
Speaker 1: of being a strong safety and his career kind of
Speaker 1: helps him this way a little bit. But you know,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say he's perfect with the technique, but he
Speaker 1: does have awareness. He does have the instinct. But when
Speaker 1: and when it comes to making stops, if he gets
Speaker 1: if he gets near a receiver, he knows how to
Speaker 1: knock the ball the way. I give him a lot
Speaker 1: of credit for that, I assume based on that glowing review,
Speaker 1: which I mean, I think he's a good player too.
Speaker 1: But are you at all surprised that he went before
Speaker 1: Browning and Cox? Uh? Not? Not Cox? Not Cox. I
Speaker 1: think everybody understands what Browning is. Browning is a big
Speaker 1: Browning is like when the old like a nineteen seventies linebacker.
Speaker 1: To me, that big, heavy athletic though, But he has
Speaker 1: just I'm just saying, the bigger guy. I think people
Speaker 1: are playing with these smaller, quicker guys, and that's why
Speaker 1: I'm watching these games every week and I'm seeing but
Speaker 1: guys like Bolden, those guys make plays. Those smaller short
Speaker 1: guys run into the football. They can't be blocked. I
Speaker 1: think with Baron Browning, it's just that some of it
Speaker 1: is projection. Because Ohio State, Pete Warner and tough Borland
Speaker 1: were they're linebackers and Browning existed kind of out here
Speaker 1: in the overhang. But like, I saw good things from
Speaker 1: him in terms of coverage, explosiveness, blitzing. He can rush
Speaker 1: the pett like. I like Browning a lot. I did
Speaker 1: like Browning better than Warner. But Warner, I think is
Speaker 1: an easier projection because he's just gonna go do what
Speaker 1: he's been doing. Who's the other guy? Higher floor, lower ceiling. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Jabrille Cox to me, he's a tough one because
Speaker 1: he cover. It's so much about covering now, and he
Speaker 1: can do it like he can go cover a tight
Speaker 1: end no problem. He's a bad run player as a linebacker.
Speaker 1: That's weird. We'd had a conversation about that on one
Speaker 1: of the last draft shows, and I hear everything you're saying.
Speaker 1: I just think coverage is important in the NFL right now.
Speaker 1: Who'll go in the next twenty or so picks. That's
Speaker 1: a wide variance. That's how Wine marrits. It's an end
Speaker 1: of the second, early mid third. I hear you. I
Speaker 1: mean that's from now until the Cowboys select pretty much.
Speaker 1: I mean the Bills, Packers, Chiefs, Buccaneers, rounding out the
Speaker 1: second round, and then we're onto the third. Cowboys are
Speaker 1: fifteen picks away at the moment at seventy five, getting
Speaker 1: pretty close here here on the Draft Show. Continuing on
Speaker 1: our coverage of the twenty twenty one NFL Draft on
Speaker 1: a one oh five three The fan End, Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: dot Com. Glad you're with us. The New Orleans Saints
Speaker 1: taking Pete Werner off the board, linebacker out of Ohio State.
Speaker 1: Brian one of your favorite guys in the draft, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was, and I was talking about him as I
Speaker 1: just love the way he's around the football. I think
Speaker 1: he plays well in coverage. I love the way he tackles.
Speaker 1: I think he's a physical player, you know. I think
Speaker 1: with Sean that's something that's big with Sean Payton. No,
Speaker 1: he's he that's when you when you ask him about play,
Speaker 1: he's like, Hey, give me tough guys, and this is
Speaker 1: what one or do you put him on the field.
Speaker 1: He's gonna make plays for you. And and Ohio State,
Speaker 1: you know their defense is they've always had guys that
Speaker 1: come out and made plays. I just I like the
Speaker 1: fact that he was a converted strong safety playing down
Speaker 1: there and didn't bat an eye, loves being in the mix,
Speaker 1: loves trying to make some plays for you. Were right
Speaker 1: to pick what sixty one right now? Sixty one with
Speaker 1: the Bills, and we have four players from my top
Speaker 1: fifty still available. Who are those guys? Carlos Basham Wake Forrest,
Speaker 1: Elijah Molden the slot corner out of Washington, Creed Humphrey
Speaker 1: the center from Oklahoma, and Joseph Asai pass rusher Texas.
Speaker 1: Is Elijah Moulden falling here? Maybe another case of where
Speaker 1: do you play him? Small and slow? I don't think
Speaker 1: it's where you play him. It's just you have to
Speaker 1: play him a specific spot and not every team has
Speaker 1: a need there. You know, he has to be that
Speaker 1: nickel corner, that nickels safety and not every team you know,
Speaker 1: has that specific need. And so it's just with fewer
Speaker 1: spots for you to land, higher chance you're gonna fall
Speaker 1: a little bit. And I think that's the case with
Speaker 1: Molden ring with him as a safety or maybe as
Speaker 1: a nickel corner, could he potentially be going to ask
Speaker 1: Carlos was just gonna out of wait? Forest goes to
Speaker 1: the Bills. That is such a Bills pick, But they already. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so the Bills just want a bunch of unathletic ends.
Speaker 1: Well a last year Bashim though, though I do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's important when you make a giant mistake in the
Speaker 1: first round with Rousseau to pick a better player that
Speaker 1: he can back up in the second. So Basham can
Speaker 1: go play and Rousseau can watch. So that'll be good.
Speaker 1: How did I know you were going to say? And
Speaker 1: Basham is not unathletic. I mean he's he tested really
Speaker 1: really well, he said about Rousseau. No, I said Bashla
Speaker 1: was hating him. A guy, he's just not his go ahead. No,
Speaker 1: he's not your typically, he's not audilarry where you know
Speaker 1: that Bendy. I want the capture the corn Quitty Pay.
Speaker 1: If I'm doing that, I want the guy. This guy's
Speaker 1: more like a Rashawn about quitti Pay. Mainly, I didn't
Speaker 1: love him, and I certainly didn't want him at ten.
Speaker 1: But if I'm doing that and I hate I really
Speaker 1: I don't like this edge rusher class like you talk
Speaker 1: about um. Last night, the Saints drafted Peyton Turner. Sure
Speaker 1: that was a pen throw where I was like, oh no,
Speaker 1: this guy liked him. But the Cowboys last because I
Speaker 1: know the Cowboys. This edge rush class scares me because
Speaker 1: there's nobody that I trust. But if I'm going to
Speaker 1: draft a guy that I don't trust, give me the
Speaker 1: super bindy athletic guy like Quity Pay. I just I'll
Speaker 1: take my chance on the upside. Not saying I'll be right,
Speaker 1: That's just how I feel. Basham got bonus points from
Speaker 1: me because he and Marvin Wilson are the guys in
Speaker 1: this class that when they hit someone it looks like
Speaker 1: it hurts a lot, And I like that in a
Speaker 1: defensive lineman. When it just looks like, man, that was
Speaker 1: a lot of force that he just hit you with,
Speaker 1: you get bonus points. I will say. I think what
Speaker 1: made me really like Basham was that he went to
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl and kicked a lot of assy. He
Speaker 1: was really good immobile, and I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: you know these are really good players like this is
Speaker 1: you know, if you can do it here, then you
Speaker 1: can probably do it in the NFL. Fashion was he
Speaker 1: was kind of a weird one because again you go
Speaker 1: in thinking a certain thing because I had his measurables
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh yeah, this dude's gonna be
Speaker 1: tossing people around, and he really wasn't. He was kind
Speaker 1: of pinballing through and not necessarily using hands or length.
Speaker 1: But you know, he's he's kind of motored up and
Speaker 1: and just kind of working his way through. And I
Speaker 1: was like, man, if you could kind of technically refine
Speaker 1: that and sort of add pass rush moves to it,
Speaker 1: that dude's got a lot. I would have loved if
Speaker 1: he would have kept falling in the kind kind of
Speaker 1: wanted him to fall as well. There's some really good
Speaker 1: names too, and I mean Elijah Moment, Molden to Tommy Togi, I,
Speaker 1: Josh Myers or a center excuse me out of Ohio
Speaker 1: State off the board here at sixty two to the packers.
Speaker 1: There's some protection for Aaron Rodgers, right, Yeah. Absolutely ain't
Speaker 1: gonna get him receiver, are they No, That's what I
Speaker 1: was laughing at. He quitting, He's gonna retire. I had
Speaker 1: a text He's just saying, Katie's like, watching what they're
Speaker 1: gonna do. They're not gonna get my guy receiver at all. Katie,
Speaker 1: You're right, and you're listening. I'll say this. You got
Speaker 1: Jordan Love exactly. I think this is the problem. I
Speaker 1: have with Josh Myers. I think he looks the part,
Speaker 1: but athletically, I think he doesn't move all that well.
Speaker 1: Am I wrong about that day? I mean there's he
Speaker 1: snaps the ball that he hops into his block. He
Speaker 1: really didn't move his feet all that well. I thought
Speaker 1: there were snaps where he looked off balance and he
Speaker 1: finds himself on the ground. But there's no smoothness to
Speaker 1: his game. It's like he hops and then he's kind
Speaker 1: of like very herky jerky in the way he played.
Speaker 1: I thought his highlights their role and he's kind of surviving. Yeah,
Speaker 1: his feet just don't seem to help him all that much, right,
Speaker 1: I he's one of those guys that you know, finds
Speaker 1: a way to get stay connected and it doesn't look pretty,
Speaker 1: but he's he finds a way just to stay connected
Speaker 1: to his blocks. But I think you're I think you're right.
Speaker 1: He's physical, he'll play with power. Uh, you know, he's
Speaker 1: a better run blocker than he is his pass protector.
Speaker 1: But I do think the center guard versatility is a
Speaker 1: selling point with him. Uh, he's well schooled. It's yeah,
Speaker 1: he doesn't have necessarily the elite physical traits you're looking
Speaker 1: forward like Frank rag Now, who's just kind of getting
Speaker 1: the way Belly survived. But Frank just got his fifth
Speaker 1: year option picked up, So I was wrong about him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's the guy that played with a broken throat, wasn't God, Dave,
Speaker 1: I told you to tell you. I went on Raiders
Speaker 1: dot Com on their podcast. I apologize Tost Colston uh
Speaker 1: the Coaston Miller. I apologize the Raider Nation for dinging
Speaker 1: their guy. Good job, Eddie, letting you set the record straight.
Speaker 1: He did, Eddie. Eddie goes, hey, Brian, what do you
Speaker 1: think I said? Hey, by the way, Eddy, before we
Speaker 1: start this, I gotta apologize the Raider Nation for Colston Miller.
Speaker 1: Colton Colton Millerton trying to say, is now trying to
Speaker 1: get the Miller part right? I messed up the other part.
Speaker 1: One more apology coming. Look at that world champion, Dave.
Speaker 1: That's a team that knows what they're doing. A good player.
Speaker 1: I just like y'all just take it personally when teams
Speaker 1: disagree with you. That's all. I'm just saying. The Chiefs,
Speaker 1: that's a good team. When you say, Dave probably favorites
Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl next year are pretty good.
Speaker 1: Smart team, good smart team. Well run well yeah, well
Speaker 1: run you know what they need? Yeah, they went and
Speaker 1: got one. She'd a nice, smart and stinctual player, makes
Speaker 1: a lot of plays. What do they need here, Dane?
Speaker 1: We can see well they addressed offensive line obviously. With
Speaker 1: Orlando Brown corner center. Most people agree that he's better
Speaker 1: than the guy that just went before. Would be one
Speaker 1: of those people. I mean, I agree. I Creed Humphrey
Speaker 1: was my top center this year. Josh Myers is actually
Speaker 1: my third center. But I think it was created Dickerson
Speaker 1: as a center. I know he's a guard for me,
Speaker 1: Dickerson as a center, So I had Dickerson above this guy. Well,
Speaker 1: with Humphrey, I thought he held himself. The same thing
Speaker 1: with the conversation with Basham at the Senior Bowl. Same
Speaker 1: thing with Humphrey. He didn't really have to go, but
Speaker 1: he went and he played really well. It played guard,
Speaker 1: played center. Uh. This is just a guy that from
Speaker 1: his red shirt freshman year at Oklahoma, he was just different.
Speaker 1: You could tell watching that Oklahoma offensive line when he
Speaker 1: was uh, you know, as the central part of it.
Speaker 1: Some guys you can just tell were former wrestlers. This
Speaker 1: guy included really smart powerful, uh, stays balanced. There's just
Speaker 1: a lot to like about what he brings your football team.
Speaker 1: So I don't know that the Chiefs necessarily needed him
Speaker 1: here because of all the additions they made it in
Speaker 1: their offensive line. But I mean, do you think they
Speaker 1: were affected at all by how the Super Bowl went? Yeah? Probably.
Speaker 1: Now they're like, okay, let's make sure that if we
Speaker 1: lose three guys, maybe even four, that we got a
Speaker 1: guy will be an actor for seventeen games and then
Speaker 1: he'll play in the playoffs and help them. Their line
Speaker 1: looks borderline incredible right now. Right, I mean, like Orlando
Speaker 1: Brown playing left, which our guy the probably love guard
Speaker 1: after this kid signed awesome life for center. But now
Speaker 1: Creed Humphrey compete for that role. They're getting Kyle Long
Speaker 1: at right guard. They're getting the doctor back from Cover DuVernay,
Speaker 1: right doctor, who's that the right tackle? Now, Mike Remmers,
Speaker 1: that's I mean, you're not gonna have five all pros,
Speaker 1: right those guys and then right, Mike Remmers. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you a lot of shots fired at Mike Remmers. I'm
Speaker 1: saying it's a professional player. I bet you, I bet you,
Speaker 1: And it makes me so everybody's just like he's like, Oh,
Speaker 1: the Bucks proved defense wins championships. Like the Bucks proved
Speaker 1: you can take advantage of a team with no line.
Speaker 1: Good job, No, I bet the Chiefs won't let that
Speaker 1: happen again. The Bucks also proved you can throw three
Speaker 1: interceptions in a row and not have it hurt. So,
Speaker 1: you know, let's not pretend that the end result of
Speaker 1: every individual game tells us how to build a team. Exactly.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers gets his thumb out and goes and scores
Speaker 1: a touchdown after any one of those picks, stamp it
Speaker 1: didn't played in the super Bowl. It's a good point.
Speaker 1: They are picking last after they won the Super Bowl, though,
Speaker 1: and they're concluding the second round with this pick. Here
Speaker 1: we had Ronnie Perkins in the mock draft. Here is
Speaker 1: edge rusher, a need four just took trying. Oh, that's right,
Speaker 1: they did take him in the first I had. We
Speaker 1: had him taking Alex Leatherwood in the first. Oh, come on,
Speaker 1: let liners go here, Ali Marpett and two Division three
Speaker 1: guys on that offensive line. That'd be fun. Ryan Jensen's
Speaker 1: a good player at center. But this wouldn't break the
Speaker 1: record though. For d two, right, because you said it
Speaker 1: was sixty one. Yeah, I believe it was sixty one.
Speaker 1: That's disappointing interior one way or the other, offense or defense.
Speaker 1: Could they take an end? Joe trying the same thing.
Speaker 1: I just said. The Bucks brought everybody back, so really
Speaker 1: it's just about depth and so offensive line would make
Speaker 1: sense here. Okay, A little surprised, but who said that
Speaker 1: this is a trade for Aaron Rodgers. This is the
Speaker 1: final pick in the second round, right, A little surprising.
Speaker 1: We have not seen a quarterback in the second round
Speaker 1: like trasker Mond. Davis Mills, Yeah, Davis Mills. Interesting thing
Speaker 1: about Kellen Mond. I'm a huge fan, big Kellen Mond guy.
Speaker 1: I'm explained, I do radio with him. He's about to
Speaker 1: kill the guy. Yeah, it's called a compliment, sandwich compliment
Speaker 1: five hours a day. I'm a big Kellen Mond guy. However,
Speaker 1: if you ask him to throw the bats the hashes,
Speaker 1: it will be incomplete every time. But I'm a big
Speaker 1: killing monk. I want to make something clear. I would
Speaker 1: not want to draft him in the second round, but
Speaker 1: quarterbacks get overdrafted. If Jalen Hurts can go fifty three,
Speaker 1: Kellen Mond could go somewhere in there. I just like
Speaker 1: to see a complete one ball outside the hashes. Davis
Speaker 1: Mills is a good player. Guys is a good Please
Speaker 1: do we think this is going to be a quarterback.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, they've got a guy. It's forty six
Speaker 1: years old. It's probably gonna play another seven years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just want on a super Bowl. Will give me
Speaker 1: a Lee McNeil, Just give me a Why are you
Speaker 1: rooting for them to draft a guy you like? And
Speaker 1: domic ensues he's doing it again and get it the
Speaker 1: first time around. Look, because how the draft is, we're
Speaker 1: not all as intimately familiar with every team as Dane is.
Speaker 1: So we look at websites to see needs, and I
Speaker 1: see IOL and IDL, So Interior McNeil take him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just surprised that you're rooting for a guy you
Speaker 1: like to go off the board, because if McNeil's there
Speaker 1: when the Cowboys come up again, I would's point out,
Speaker 1: not McNeil, take a bad d tackle here, take a
Speaker 1: bad old lineman. Take a bad Marvin Wills. Hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: take Markin who might not say that. I just say, hey,
Speaker 1: the best D tackle in the country, all of a
Speaker 1: sudden bad at football. Weird. He was kind of went
Speaker 1: back and forth. I mean, I know he played in
Speaker 1: a different position, but silly silly gooses. So you like
Speaker 1: Marvin Wilson or you hated sit there line coach standard
Speaker 1: for the workout right they did? Yeah? I love going
Speaker 1: to state defensive tackle? Yeah? Did you guys need him
Speaker 1: to be dominant for all three day? The same react.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know who you were talking about because
Speaker 1: he can't be clarify. Did you see him played his
Speaker 1: first two years or we skipped it? I thought I
Speaker 1: gave him. I guess second round grade based office. He
Speaker 1: has a nineteen film, I mean solid player, but yeah,
Speaker 1: seventy five or ninety nine? Bring him to me? Did
Speaker 1: you see him play two years and name? But three
Speaker 1: years announcing? Is he announcing the film? They put up
Speaker 1: a lower third. I was gonna have you try and
Speaker 1: guess who this was. It's machine gun Kelly, Cleveland guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a big Cleveland guy. Well, I knew he was
Speaker 1: gonna pick. What's he doing? I think he's rapping him?
Speaker 1: Probably it's like, what the isn't he dating somebody famous? Yes?
Speaker 1: I think there's like something going on with like Addison
Speaker 1: Ray or the NFL Draft is only No, that's what
Speaker 1: it was. Guys, Come on, I said, Addison Ray, that's bad.
Speaker 1: Um Gun Kelly just do I think he just dropped
Speaker 1: the mic and walked away. Did he announce the selection?
Speaker 1: I bet he. He probably just had a cool like
Speaker 1: Cleveland rap, you know, just like oh the Cleveland Yeah
Speaker 1: that Ohio, Yeah, I can see that. Dane'll get the
Speaker 1: inside scoop. Probably what machine gun Kelly was rapping? What
Speaker 1: was a guy machine quarterback? When there a quarterback? Oh
Speaker 1: yea irrelevant, Yeah, Chad Chad Kelly maybe five years ago.
Speaker 1: Fight report on him? I mean, yeah, there's an automatic
Speaker 1: weapons situation and a fight at up high school game
Speaker 1: for no reason as an adult. Okay, the first round
Speaker 1: of the draft is a big deal. Obviously their ratings
Speaker 1: were crazy last night, but like this is this is
Speaker 1: for the crazy dorks like us, like this were you
Speaker 1: win championships. But no, I get that, but like, why
Speaker 1: are they doing all this rigamar role for like casual viewers?
Speaker 1: As if a casual viewer is watching the draft at
Speaker 1: eight thirty on a Friday night, Like they're trying to
Speaker 1: pull the casual in with machine Gun Kelly. It ain't
Speaker 1: gonna work. The casual fan is watching this from a bar,
Speaker 1: is what's happened? Let's see if here, how do you?
Speaker 1: How do you? How do you watching? You can't hear
Speaker 1: I mean we can't hear each now. To be fair,
Speaker 1: we were told not to. Yeah, that's fair, unfortunate. We
Speaker 1: need to know if there was a rating spike at
Speaker 1: eight thirty three when Machine Gun Kelly took this. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, machine Gun Kelly's gonna write an ode to Cleveland.
Speaker 1: Will Megan Fox be there? Oh my goodness, there's so
Speaker 1: much injured. Megan Fox. Yeah, so I'm gonna fight together.
Speaker 1: I was thinking Jack Harlowe with, uh, this is some
Speaker 1: real This is some real Day three conversation here. Kardashian
Speaker 1: was sparker, so too, do you guys out? We are
Speaker 1: at the end of the second round the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 1: By the way, one of disrespect, Marvin Wilson, I ruined
Speaker 1: your show. Sorry. The fan host Zach Wolchuk Uh just
Speaker 1: texted me. He's killing me for messing that up about
Speaker 1: Megan Fox and Machine Key. It's Kyle Trask going to
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. We thought it could be a quarterback. Here.
Speaker 1: There's the reason I was in a war room at
Speaker 1: one time. This is a Mason Rudolph clone. For for
Speaker 1: better or for worse. Oh yeah, smiles, Garrett's gonna whoop him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I just killed the kid. No for I
Speaker 1: mean good and bad. I don't do you think Kyle
Speaker 1: Trash can be a I would have taken Mills ormand
Speaker 1: over him, right, I mean Kyle trask is. I think
Speaker 1: the timing is there. He's a smart kid, tough kid.
Speaker 1: Uh that's kid. But he moves with heavy feet. You know,
Speaker 1: It's like he's got cinder blocks for feet, and that
Speaker 1: that really hinders what he's able to do the second
Speaker 1: reaction plays. His arm is only average, but you know what,
Speaker 1: he's into a quarterback room with Tom Brady and it
Speaker 1: maybe that'll help him well. And he made it. I
Speaker 1: thought he made a giant mistake because, like you talk
Speaker 1: about how you don't want guys to opt out, you
Speaker 1: wanted to finish the season and all that. But when
Speaker 1: Kedarius Tony and Kyle Pitts and there might have been
Speaker 1: other guys who opted for the bowl game, that was bad.
Speaker 1: I went on the radio and I was like Kyle
Speaker 1: Trust should not play in this game because what's gonna
Speaker 1: happen is he's not gonna play well and it's gonna
Speaker 1: be held against him. Ride with what you've already done.
Speaker 1: Your ballers aren't playing, you don't play. Joldan. I was
Speaker 1: at that game, so I never got to watch the broadcast.
Speaker 1: But was he benched or was he hurt? Was he like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he was Mercy Ruler. I think the team
Speaker 1: went Sorry, dude, that's ugly, have a seat. He seemed
Speaker 1: he seems like a great guy. I'm just I've never
Speaker 1: been impressed. And I just remember thinking back in December,
Speaker 1: if they if this guy wins the Heisman over Davante Smith,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna freak out because you know, and college football
Speaker 1: does that sometimes where they give the award to the best,
Speaker 1: you know, the best stats instead of the best player.
Speaker 1: And were there the stats were incredible. I don't lose
Speaker 1: that good of a player. I'm sorry, I just don't um.
Speaker 1: I mean, and I mean, that's a great place for him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he can go learn from the best ever and nobody's
Speaker 1: looking for him to play right now. But you take
Speaker 1: away that game where he played without a good players
Speaker 1: this season looks a lot like Mac Jones. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a good point. I mean, no, I get that. I
Speaker 1: mean that's why he was a Heisman Trophy. Final stats
Speaker 1: were absolutely incredible, but if you turn on the games,
Speaker 1: it doesn't look as impressive as the numbers would suggest. Well,
Speaker 1: that's just it. Yeah, there's not a ton there to
Speaker 1: get excited about. I think he was a great fit
Speaker 1: with Dan Mullen. I thought he his understanding of the offense,
Speaker 1: his understanding of where to go with the football is
Speaker 1: really really impressive. I just keep coming back to that
Speaker 1: lack of mobility as something that is really going to
Speaker 1: hold him back. It's going to lower that ceiling for
Speaker 1: him as a quarterback. And to me, that's just you
Speaker 1: don't draft a quarterback like that in the first two rounds.
Speaker 1: If you're drafting a quarterback in the first two rounds,
Speaker 1: you're saying, we think that you can start for one day.
Speaker 1: And I just have a hard time seeing an NFL
Speaker 1: starter with Kyle Trask. Yeah, he's got a long way
Speaker 1: to go. By the way, that was the conclusion of
Speaker 1: the second round. First pick of the third round, Andre
Speaker 1: Cisco's safety from Syracuse. We're gonna hit that. On the
Speaker 1: other side of the break, you're listening to the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one NFL Draft on one oh five three The
Speaker 1: Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. You guys ready for
Speaker 1: my Cisco scouting report. Let's do it, shared Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: dot Com people. We're friends here, Absolutely, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Let's get real. You did that on the radio. I
Speaker 1: mean you made a different noise, but was it What
Speaker 1: was the noise you made on the radio? I don't know.
Speaker 1: He went Andre, Cisco has a ton of interceptions, and
Speaker 1: I've never seen somebody give up more touchdowns. So I
Speaker 1: don't know the official numbers on it, but I watched
Speaker 1: three or four games of Cisco and he gave up
Speaker 1: at least seven touchdowns. And I'm like, you're my free safety. Nah,
Speaker 1: that ain't gonna work. Terrifies me. I don't want boom
Speaker 1: or bust. I want only boom either that or bore me.
Speaker 1: You know, just be back there and don't anything happened.
Speaker 1: He's back there letting everything happen. Scouting report. That's Cisco
Speaker 1: in the books. One way to do it, Dan, What
Speaker 1: did you think about? I mean, look, peace or fam
Speaker 1: and I mentioned it earlier, and that's basically what Jeff saying. Uh,
Speaker 1: you don't know what I'm saying either. He will have
Speaker 1: his interceptions, but he's gonna give up a lot of plays.
Speaker 1: And as as the last line of defense, you cannot
Speaker 1: have those mental mistakes. You cannot have those lapses and
Speaker 1: judgment where one false step one, uh, you know, wrong
Speaker 1: decision one, wrong key and you're giving up a touchdown.
Speaker 1: That's that's a big deal when your mistakes are affecting
Speaker 1: the scoreboard. Sou Cisco, I wasn't a huge fan. It's
Speaker 1: a little early for him. I thought, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: towards the back end of round three, that's when you
Speaker 1: start to think about him. But you know, we're getting
Speaker 1: to the point where safety's flying off the board. What
Speaker 1: three in the second round? Now a fourth here, I
Speaker 1: don't maybe be Jamar Johnson goes and later this round,
Speaker 1: but not many safeties left in the top one hundred.
Speaker 1: Our Darius Washington's just outside the top one hundred though
Speaker 1: you both know that. My guys, late, you just gotta
Speaker 1: you have to. I have to wait four years for
Speaker 1: the payoff to look back. And like that's why I
Speaker 1: ranked him there because you be like, why is your
Speaker 1: guy still on the board. You said he's the thirtieth
Speaker 1: best player, you know, you know damn well that if
Speaker 1: he has like a great first month of a rookie season,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be proclaiming your win from the mountaintops. Oh
Speaker 1: that's how we were about Antoine Winfield. Yeah right, I
Speaker 1: just seemed to make the fifty three. Yea, like Sey
Speaker 1: told you, monster, it's on the team. Did they may
Speaker 1: like Gillespie safety safety Gillespie. I like him, Adam round guy. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I did like Gillespie. I just it bothered me how
Speaker 1: he just never made plays on the football. I mean
Speaker 1: just it's hard to find tape where he made plays
Speaker 1: in the football. You watch the first ten plays, the
Speaker 1: Alabama tape if you're like, all right, first round Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame. Yeah exactly. But I don't know. I I
Speaker 1: made the mistake of watching that tape. Like there's like
Speaker 1: the second tape I watched, and you know, the third
Speaker 1: and fourth tape. I just I struggled to really love him.
Speaker 1: I think he's a Day three player. I think he's
Speaker 1: an early Day three player, like fourth round maybe. See.
Speaker 1: I actually only watched the first ten plays of Alabama,
Speaker 1: so I'm hoping the Cowboys get him here in the third.
Speaker 1: How about the kid from Florida State, Hamsam. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: tough because he's I don't where do you play? Is
Speaker 1: he a box guy? I don't know that you're really
Speaker 1: trusting him in coverage. I mean he's kind of like
Speaker 1: Diablo where you almost some teams are gonna play him
Speaker 1: a linebacker. Um, he's tough and he's been banged up
Speaker 1: quite a bit. Hope that he goes Okay? Do you
Speaker 1: think he goes in this round? I did not include
Speaker 1: him in my Day two mock draft. He was one
Speaker 1: of those guys like the first five that I just
Speaker 1: left out. So I think it's possible, but it's probably
Speaker 1: borderline while we're on the pick or while we're on
Speaker 1: the topic of safeties. Another safety I'd kind of heard
Speaker 1: that was conversated about around the Cowboys in this area
Speaker 1: Paris Ford out of Pittsburgh where good Uda. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: touch that later, I legitimately late, I legitimately if you
Speaker 1: want to see my board, do you hear him for
Speaker 1: this team? Check it out a little bit. This is
Speaker 1: where my board and runs out where the pink ends
Speaker 1: and that's four two spots below the pink. That's so bad.
Speaker 1: That's especially crossing my fingers hoping he's not a pick anytime. Something.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of hopious. Like the Cowboys, I only got
Speaker 1: to like one hundred and fifty five hundred and sixty guys,
Speaker 1: and he's legitimately ranked the lowest of the guys I watched.
Speaker 1: He's not good. Paris forward Randall, let's go. I'll take
Speaker 1: John Randall on the team right now. I think so too.
Speaker 1: That'd be nice. I just think anger will get him
Speaker 1: to the football crazy. He was inducted twelve or eleven
Speaker 1: years ago. Now, yeah, we're into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: Gosh scouted him. There's another quarterback. Keep drafting bad quarter quarterback.
Speaker 1: Kellen Mond Texas A and M is off the board
Speaker 1: to Minnesota at sixty six. So two of the last
Speaker 1: three picks have been quarterbacks. Dane Brugler, Yeah, and Kevin
Speaker 1: Mond is everybody. I'm not a big kelln wand fan.
Speaker 1: I would not have touched him until day three. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm I'm gonna say, yes, Yeah, I've got
Speaker 1: him in like sorry. Back here on the radio side
Speaker 1: of things, as the draft rolls on here from the
Speaker 1: Star in Frisco, two of the last three picks have
Speaker 1: been quarterbacks. We had Kyle Trash going to Florida at
Speaker 1: sixty four or excuse me, out of Florida going and
Speaker 1: staying in Florida at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at sixty four.
Speaker 1: Andre Cisco Safety out of Syracuse goes to the Jaguars
Speaker 1: at sixty five, and then Kellen Mond, Texas a and
Speaker 1: m Fighting Nagg's quarterback, goes to the Minnesota Vikings at
Speaker 1: sixty six. Brian, what are your thoughts on Kellen Mond? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was when we were on the break there. I
Speaker 1: know Dane was not a big, big fan of this
Speaker 1: young man, and that's okay. I didn't think what day three? Right?
Speaker 1: What do you think of him? I had him in
Speaker 1: the fourth round? Okay, yeah, I mean similar, yeah, so
Speaker 1: to me. But this guy, when you watch him throw
Speaker 1: the ball, he just flicks his wrist. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean he's I mean, he's got an I'll tee. I
Speaker 1: saw this kid. This kid stole my heart in a
Speaker 1: game at seven overtime game. I was their Lawish game
Speaker 1: and Hellman were at the game. He didn't steal anything.
Speaker 1: He wouldn't let his team lose. I know that I
Speaker 1: gotta give credit for that, But I thought he was
Speaker 1: gonna be one of those guys. And it's like I
Speaker 1: thought he was gonna be the next big thing in
Speaker 1: the SEC after that, and then the following year he
Speaker 1: wasn't as good. But then you watched they came back
Speaker 1: around though I think they were ninety one. They won,
Speaker 1: they won the Orange Bowl, beat North Carolina and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. But I think this guy can throw the
Speaker 1: ball with some touch and some accuracy, and he's not
Speaker 1: afraid to let it rip or fit it into that
Speaker 1: tight window. Who'll get away with some throws that he
Speaker 1: has hope business make it, And I think that's a
Speaker 1: little bit of his talent around him. Those kids will
Speaker 1: help him make some plays. But there's some passes that
Speaker 1: he throws that won't even be close, and then he'll
Speaker 1: miss some throws the wide open receivers. But then but
Speaker 1: then there's other ones where you're kind of going, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: I see it now, I see it. So you know,
Speaker 1: I was thinking, like, man, this guy didn't take he
Speaker 1: didn't take sacks. He stands tall in the pocket. You know,
Speaker 1: people are all around him and he's throwing the ball.
Speaker 1: I was pretty I was pretty impressed by him what
Speaker 1: I saw. Fourth round guy. But that's my problem with
Speaker 1: him is depending on which tape you watch, you're coming
Speaker 1: away with a vastly different opinion. Throwing the Texas A
Speaker 1: and M or the Florida tape against Texas A and M,
Speaker 1: and you're thinking, okay Mond, he's got a shot to
Speaker 1: start in the league. But then you watch, Look is
Speaker 1: the worst tape that any of these senior quarterbacks have
Speaker 1: put out there, and it's just like, Okay, which Kellen
Speaker 1: Mond am I getting here? There's some Colin Kaepernick to
Speaker 1: his game, just that angular body type, the speed, the arm.
Speaker 1: I mean, he could put the anywhere he wants in
Speaker 1: the field. Uh So, I get why you're rolling the
Speaker 1: dice here in the third round. Quarterbacks always get overdrafted.
Speaker 1: We know that. So fourth fifth round player goes in
Speaker 1: the third Not not a huge shock for here for
Speaker 1: the Viking. If you put up bad tape against twenty
Speaker 1: twenty LSU, I'm fair better defense at the end, I
Speaker 1: don't want to hear it. They welcome to Houston, Texans.
Speaker 1: They finally made their way to Cleveland, sticking down in
Speaker 1: the Brass Valley, going from of course kellen Mond down
Speaker 1: to College Dation and then down to Houston and the Texans.
Speaker 1: Do you think they had to fly those fans in
Speaker 1: the just mean, it's got to be rough being a
Speaker 1: Texans fan right right now? Is yeah. I feel for
Speaker 1: Nick Assaria, I feel for that entire organ job. Don't
Speaker 1: feel bad for him. Oh no, he got a good
Speaker 1: deal too, but he waited a long time to get
Speaker 1: his shot, finally got it, and well, I think a
Speaker 1: lot of that by his own choice, though, Dad, I
Speaker 1: think he had some opportunities to leave. Oh no, that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He was very particular, waited and waited
Speaker 1: and waited and finally took the job and it's backfired.
Speaker 1: So we're taking a little extra time here with the
Speaker 1: Texans start of the night, man, I mean, I know,
Speaker 1: just a little extra conversation here, Dan, what do you
Speaker 1: think the Texans could be thinking about here? Well, Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson all of his issues. Take Davis Mills here, I mean, oh,
Speaker 1: Davis Mills, quarterback of Stanford. I'm a buzzer beater, listen,
Speaker 1: I don't we don't know what's going to happen with
Speaker 1: the Shawn Watson. This is basically insurance. I guess Davis
Speaker 1: Mills to me he was the clear best quarterback after
Speaker 1: the first round. I agree. I think he's the best
Speaker 1: middle of the field thrower in this draft. Uh six four,
Speaker 1: two twenty. He's got a good arm, he's a loose passer.
Speaker 1: Just really there's two things working against him. The left
Speaker 1: knee was an issue, right, and then he has eleven
Speaker 1: starts in his career and that's well below average with
Speaker 1: what you want because with a quarterback position, the more
Speaker 1: you've seen, the better you are. And so it's gonna
Speaker 1: take some time for him. But he's got skills and
Speaker 1: he's got talent, and so I would have rather rolled
Speaker 1: the dice on him over Traskermond. But Houston Texans, with
Speaker 1: your first pick you have, you have so few picks
Speaker 1: in the draft and use your first one on the quarterback.
Speaker 1: What what does that say? Yeah, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: The body the ball comes off this guy's hand great, naturally. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and there's a there's there's no problem with that. He's
Speaker 1: got the touch for the swings the screens. Dane was
Speaker 1: talking about the ball going down the middle of the field.
Speaker 1: He gives his receivers a chance, you know, and he'll
Speaker 1: hit guys on the run. He's got touch in the
Speaker 1: red zone. He has a feel for how to put
Speaker 1: the ball far enough out there in order to give
Speaker 1: the receiver that opportunity to bring it down. I know
Speaker 1: he'll move around in the pocket to buy the second chance.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say he's a great runner, but he's got
Speaker 1: no fear when it comes to throwing this football. And
Speaker 1: so I like the way he keeps those eyes down
Speaker 1: the field. His receivers give him a chance down the field,
Speaker 1: he delivers the ball well down the field. So after
Speaker 1: David's found all those four quarterback acts it went in
Speaker 1: the first round. Well, he's my he was my fifth
Speaker 1: quarterback out there's what he was. If I made Would
Speaker 1: you mind if I hijack things a little bit? Sure?
Speaker 1: I just I mean, you know, so three quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: I don't care about just got drafted. Good for them,
Speaker 1: and it's awesome for the Cowboys. And that's my point
Speaker 1: is fantastic players that we have no interest in whatsoever
Speaker 1: from a Cowboys perspective or going off the board. And
Speaker 1: so I can't help. But notice that we're moving into
Speaker 1: we're moving into cowboy range here, getting six seven picks away.
Speaker 1: What are what are y'all thinking? What do you I
Speaker 1: think there's still a lot of names available that they
Speaker 1: could have picked at forty four. I agree, I'm looking
Speaker 1: Do you think, oh, size the guy here? I would
Speaker 1: love that at seventy five Osi or or Molden. So
Speaker 1: I mean I'm looking at Molden. I'm looking at I
Speaker 1: don't know if they would want a double dip, but
Speaker 1: I really think Pauls and a Debo and if you
Speaker 1: have to, Mela Fawn wove Fit here. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: I think you're looking for big corners that can run.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of them available that Jalen Mayfield to
Speaker 1: the Falcons at sixty. I'm sorry, is that the select?
Speaker 1: Is it? Okay? I'm sorry, I didn't mean to say that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was in okay, No, Like I went through you know,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at like best available lists, and I had
Speaker 1: changed much from forty four. It's pretty wild man, And
Speaker 1: like every position that you would associate with the cowboys,
Speaker 1: there's at least one or two guys like you could
Speaker 1: have your choice between in Osai and Ronnie Perkins. You could, um,
Speaker 1: you know you mentioned the two cornerbacks malifon wuin a debo.
Speaker 1: Elijah Molden's probably a safety here, but they need a safety,
Speaker 1: so that's fan. They definitely need to see. Jamar Johnson's
Speaker 1: still sitting there. I don't know. That's probably not a
Speaker 1: guy you would have drafted at forty four, but a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks later, Aaron Robinson at Central Florida I
Speaker 1: think is a really really good prospect. He just he
Speaker 1: played the slot and so if you view him as
Speaker 1: a slot only, I don't know if that would be
Speaker 1: a Cowboys consideration. But you've got d tackles available that
Speaker 1: we've talked about leading up to this with Alee mcdeale
Speaker 1: Lee McNeil is another Sheldon and Tommy Tokyo. I maybe
Speaker 1: not seventy five, but somewhere in these next three picks,
Speaker 1: who we pilo two. Um, I'm the only one who
Speaker 1: would pick Marvin Wilson, so I'll just pick him later,
Speaker 1: no problem. I don't think you're the only one. I
Speaker 1: there's some guys in that room when that would pick
Speaker 1: Marvin Wilson would just wait, just waited. I did I'll
Speaker 1: tell you this. I love I feel. I'm so sick
Speaker 1: of feeling like, oh god, oh God, oh God, oh God.
Speaker 1: Guys are guys I like are going and right now
Speaker 1: I'm like, we're gravy baby. Yeah, I didin't get happen
Speaker 1: this time. I'm gonna feel great about whoever's there at
Speaker 1: seventy five, no matter what until the next six picks.
Speaker 1: Are all guys gonna be guys that I love. I mean, oh,
Speaker 1: Anthony mutnios Is, Oh with the Cincinnati name, I'm like, what, No,
Speaker 1: not at all. By the way, there is a look
Speaker 1: for those of you watching on the Dallas Cowboys dot
Speaker 1: Com side of things. There's a look inside the war
Speaker 1: room up in the top lefty in corner. Steven's got
Speaker 1: the jacket off. Things are getting crazy. By the way,
Speaker 1: one of those names we just mentioned, Joseph Osai, it's
Speaker 1: Tressure out of Texas goes. I mean, somebody, somebody we like,
Speaker 1: is gonna go between now and then it's gonna be
Speaker 1: the next six pick. Yeah, it would be this day.
Speaker 1: Superstitions aren't real, guys, Come on, well, let's just see
Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, but what about curses? Huh, that's the
Speaker 1: same thing, two different words different yeah, uh yeah, synonyms.
Speaker 1: So no, there's man, there's there's a bunch of really
Speaker 1: good players. Bill, But that is one of the guys
Speaker 1: that would have been I would have loved that for me.
Speaker 1: That was Yeah, that was one of my top guys.
Speaker 1: I got a lot of I got six second round
Speaker 1: guys left. I got Molden, Robinson or my only two
Speaker 1: second round guys left. I'm a little surprised Robinson still available. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean I don't like them as much as you
Speaker 1: guys do. I don't the instincts. I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: think they were quite there. We might be slot only, right,
Speaker 1: I see. That's what I liked about him, as he
Speaker 1: could play I thought could play inside, outside. Okay, but
Speaker 1: I'm surprised he's still on the board at this point.
Speaker 1: I thought late second uh was kind of his sweet spot.
Speaker 1: He I mean, pretty soon he's got to come off
Speaker 1: the board. Would you say that about Elijah Molden too,
Speaker 1: or do you think the size of the testing is
Speaker 1: that's he's a He's a he's a nickel only he's
Speaker 1: very roles not scheme specific, role specific with how you
Speaker 1: can deploy him on the field. What are we seeing
Speaker 1: from a Lee McNeil. Why has he not been taken
Speaker 1: so far? You know he's a true You watch him play.
Speaker 1: Like I said, he's breathing the same air as the center.
Speaker 1: He is like this old school head up nos zero
Speaker 1: technique straight up is what he played, and he can
Speaker 1: play the one here. And he's got a good first step.
Speaker 1: But I don't think that means you can rush the passer.
Speaker 1: Like he might bring you a little bit of pocket push,
Speaker 1: but he's not gonna ever. If he was ever going
Speaker 1: to be a pass rusher, he'd be off the board.
Speaker 1: Brady Christiansen is the pick seventy to the Panthers. So
Speaker 1: another offensive tackle, twelve offensive tackles. Now he needed help
Speaker 1: at left tackle. That's I'm sorry, Go ahead, Dan, Rashaun Slater.
Speaker 1: We talked about maybe at eight they go corner, they
Speaker 1: get a left tackle here in the third round. I
Speaker 1: just I will the one thing that I don't know
Speaker 1: if I love, and y'all feel free to correct me.
Speaker 1: The tackle situation for where the Cowboys are paying doesn't
Speaker 1: look amazing. I think it's pretty washed up, right, That's okay? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean compared to I think other positions. I don't
Speaker 1: think that looks pretty at all. So I think if
Speaker 1: you took an offensive tackle, you'd be kind of forcing
Speaker 1: what you consider a need. Dane, do you like Hutson?
Speaker 1: It all from Cincinnati? I do. In the third, I
Speaker 1: mean more of a late third, I thought, or Smith
Speaker 1: from East Caroline Smith, Yeah, I think he's got We
Speaker 1: did for a radio who had to do a mock
Speaker 1: and I put Smith. I think I picked him right
Speaker 1: about this spot because so I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: Alee McNeil is a solid player at some point here
Speaker 1: in the third Brown, We're gonna see a run on
Speaker 1: these defensive tackles, Yeah, McNeil and maybe the USC kids
Speaker 1: and a few of these players. There's some wide receivers
Speaker 1: still left on that board, Toomy Brown, Rogers, Wallace Saint Brown, right,
Speaker 1: I actually like both Saint Brown and Rogers. Amari Rodger
Speaker 1: is an Aminross Saint Brown above Diami Brown. But all
Speaker 1: of them, you know, it's those I think, at least
Speaker 1: for me, those are the next guys. Is those three
Speaker 1: and Palmer. I actually liked the Tennessee Palmer day. Did
Speaker 1: you see the Palmer kid? He of course you did.
Speaker 1: You've watched a thousand players. It runs like angry like
Speaker 1: it does or it's just like he just I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's the way he plays is even just in the
Speaker 1: routes is so physical. I was just like, I like,
Speaker 1: I mean watch him against Alabama and you can see,
Speaker 1: uh you know him he got a touchdown over Certan, right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he only had like four touchdowns this year,
Speaker 1: but one was against Hurtan, one's against Tyson Campbell. One
Speaker 1: was against DJ Daniel, the other Georgia corner who has
Speaker 1: a chance to get drafted tomorrow. Daniel was so bad
Speaker 1: trying to defend that play too. Yeah. So, I mean
Speaker 1: he played well in the SEC. I think the quarterback
Speaker 1: situation really held him back awful. What do you think
Speaker 1: about some of these interior defensive lineman passed mcdeal or
Speaker 1: pass McNeil, maybe like a TJ. Slayton and osa Odiggy
Speaker 1: zoo Uh by the way, that's a fun name of
Speaker 1: Diggi zooa. What do you think about those kinds of
Speaker 1: guys that at least they're just kind of sneaking in
Speaker 1: there if you wanted to maybe look down the board
Speaker 1: a little bit for a d tackle yeah, and what's
Speaker 1: that sweet spot to get one of these defensive tackles?
Speaker 1: We know it's not a strong class, and so do
Speaker 1: you do it here in the third d you wait
Speaker 1: to the fourth. I mean, oh, Diggy Zoo is a
Speaker 1: good player inside outside versatility, Milton Williams's name, saying there's
Speaker 1: like five of these defensive tackle guys I've got. I
Speaker 1: just think y'all are disrespecting my pet cat Tommy Tommy
Speaker 1: Togi either three pound guy. Yeah, he's strong, m effort
Speaker 1: what he is? He was like, uh, it just is
Speaker 1: he gonna give you pass rush? That's the question though, right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: see I does does that matter? Like we're we're well,
Speaker 1: sure we're here into the third round. Maybe maybe it's
Speaker 1: not seventy five, but eighty four and ninety nine they've
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see how they develop, but they they've
Speaker 1: got Hill and Gallimore to do that stuff. That's why
Speaker 1: you drafted Tristan him. I'm not saying that we know
Speaker 1: he can do it, but might be easier with a big, strong,
Speaker 1: badass like Tommy Toby. I just eating up blocked. He
Speaker 1: mauled Clemson like he was literally body slamming guys in
Speaker 1: Ohio State would have lost anyway, but they would have
Speaker 1: played better against Alabama if he was there. Oh he
Speaker 1: was the MVP of the defense Clemson. I would love
Speaker 1: to have him on this team. He is one of
Speaker 1: those defensive tackles that are in the conversation. The Giants
Speaker 1: are on the clock. Let's step aside, so we have
Speaker 1: the Cowboys pick on the other side of the break.
Speaker 1: You're listening to the twenty twenty one NFL Draft on
Speaker 1: one on five three the Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com.
Speaker 1: So the Giants selection is happening Round three, Pick seventy one,
Speaker 1: and its corner Aaron Robinson. If the Cowboys were gonna
Speaker 1: double dip at corner in the second and the third,
Speaker 1: Aaron Robinson was probably gonna be that guy. Tell you what,
Speaker 1: one of the Cowboy receivers is going to get mugged.
Speaker 1: Yes a year. I love the way Aaron Robinson plays
Speaker 1: right there the line and he's going to He's going
Speaker 1: to hit you and ride you through the route. I
Speaker 1: loved watching Aaron Robinson. He's tough. He is tough. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what. Though those kids down there play they
Speaker 1: they they're man. I mean, they play with a chip
Speaker 1: on their shoulder. They really all. I mean, I know
Speaker 1: here I would say, oh, Brauns, we got Tristan Hill
Speaker 1: out of that place. Well, okay, I get it. But
Speaker 1: I mean I'm just looking at these kids. Every time
Speaker 1: I see a Central Florida player though, I'm I feel like, man,
Speaker 1: that's that's a good player right there. Probably deserves to
Speaker 1: be in an ACC school or something like that. And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that's probably why. I mean, you see
Speaker 1: is definitely coming up in the world. Oh no, they are,
Speaker 1: but they far. I mean, their coach left, their coach
Speaker 1: took took the job at Tennessee, right, yeah, and he
Speaker 1: went up to Tennessee and they got to get the
Speaker 1: guy from Auburn, you know, so we'll see how I mean,
Speaker 1: I forgot Gus Mason's he could have a lot of
Speaker 1: Successus Mason is a good coach. Yeah, that would be interesting,
Speaker 1: so completely not. I'm very happy he's not in the
Speaker 1: SEC West anymore. Dave you you you're with you live
Speaker 1: with this team. You live with this team. I literally
Speaker 1: you do live with this team. I'm not well a
Speaker 1: lot less over the last year. But yeah, typically there
Speaker 1: he goes, Wow, yeah, Okay, a couple of three. That's
Speaker 1: building right there. Wow. So Ali McNeil out of NC State.
Speaker 1: The defensive tackle is the pick with Detroit at seventy two.
Speaker 1: By the way, for those of you listening, man, you
Speaker 1: wanted him off all, didn't you. I did. I did too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did a big fan of his, like I say it,
Speaker 1: but I got you know, I got these defensive tackles
Speaker 1: still kind of stacked in there though, And I meant
Speaker 1: we've lost a couple of guys since I said that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: good jokes, but no, but there's still a lot left.
Speaker 1: Is anybody on the clock and two picks? Is anybody
Speaker 1: like Nixon from Iowa? Dave Davion Nixon, Yeah, the tackle
Speaker 1: from Iowa. I don't think he's the worst player on
Speaker 1: the board. I don't think he's my top pick, though, Dane,
Speaker 1: I hate what he sighed. He does. There's some prospects
Speaker 1: that are just frustrating or you know, okay, okay, there's
Speaker 1: clear talent there. Because I don't have him great. I
Speaker 1: was just making sure I wasn't gonna be the only
Speaker 1: one saying bad things about him. No, like it to
Speaker 1: buy into him, like to fully invest in him as
Speaker 1: a draft pick. But you know there's you know it
Speaker 1: watched the Penn State tape and you're optimistic, and then
Speaker 1: you watch other tapes and maybe not so much. So
Speaker 1: I think somewhere here in the third round is probably
Speaker 1: the right range for him, but I don't know that
Speaker 1: I'm all that excited about it. If he's my pick
Speaker 1: Eagles right Philadelphia selection at seventy three, three picks away
Speaker 1: from the Cowboys, it's gonna be down to the wire
Speaker 1: here on what they're gonna do. Milton Williams Williams Louisiana
Speaker 1: Tech defensive lineman, started to take our cats were the target.
Speaker 1: It's going to be fine. There's plenty left to Dallas
Speaker 1: might have their guys. They're hanging, they're handing the phones
Speaker 1: around here, they're talking to somebody. I guess we'll see.
Speaker 1: Milton Williams to me is big time projection, like he's
Speaker 1: an incredible athlete, but against that level of competition, I
Speaker 1: would expect you to just crush everyone. And I didn't
Speaker 1: really see that. So that's and I know they deviate.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, there's no blanket statements. They deviate
Speaker 1: from time to time. But I do think it's interesting
Speaker 1: that they seem to like him so much because this
Speaker 1: is the big school team. They always draft big school guys.
Speaker 1: I mean they did Alabama, Alabama in the first two rounds. Wait,
Speaker 1: who Philadelphia, No, I'm talking about I'm talking about the
Speaker 1: Colt Dallas. The Cowboys were enamored supposedly with Milton Williams,
Speaker 1: and that's not the type of school that they typically
Speaker 1: go after. I mean, their first two picks this year
Speaker 1: Penn State in Kentucky SEC Big ten, and that's what
Speaker 1: they do. So I definitely thought that was interesting. So
Speaker 1: what are we thinking though, specifically about the Cowboys here?
Speaker 1: Because you've got Washington at seventy four, the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: up at seventy five. Let's stop some names here, gentlemen.
Speaker 1: I would love it if the pick is Elijah Molden. Say,
Speaker 1: Elijah Moullen's the best player on my board pretty clearly,
Speaker 1: him and Quinn Miners, Dammy Brown. I love They're not
Speaker 1: going receiver. Did you ever know? Yeah, yeah, you probably know,
Speaker 1: But I would love Elijah Molden. I like Tommy Tokey.
Speaker 1: I would make me happy. I might be alone on that,
Speaker 1: but that's fine. Is safety. The biggest need here is
Speaker 1: defensive tackle the biggest need here, that's my question. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't think that. I mean, with three third round picks,
Speaker 1: I don't know that you have to go with your
Speaker 1: top need. So yeah, take the guy you think won't
Speaker 1: be there next time you come up on the Saint
Speaker 1: just I mocked him too the Cowboys at this time yesterday.
Speaker 1: He's a kid from back. You're on the radio side
Speaker 1: of things. The Dallas Cowboys are officially on the clock
Speaker 1: after back to back NFC East opponents. Philadelphia takes the
Speaker 1: defensive tackle out of Louisiana Tech, Milton Williams, and then
Speaker 1: Benjamin Saint Juice Corner out of Minnesota goes to Washington. Brian,
Speaker 1: you were right on this guy on where he was
Speaker 1: gonna go. Yeah, I tell you what. And then we
Speaker 1: again for one oh five three. We did did some
Speaker 1: mock draft stuff, and I thought this guy would end
Speaker 1: up with the Cowboys. I was kind of hopeful about him.
Speaker 1: I really liked watching his tape. I thought he was
Speaker 1: super productive when you know, when you were able to
Speaker 1: study him. The thing about him is that he's he's
Speaker 1: one of those guys that when it's like he's long
Speaker 1: and when he gets in position, like he's got that
Speaker 1: booty to play with that offhand, and you don't see
Speaker 1: him going over or over the back of the receiver
Speaker 1: or through. You see him playing around the body, control
Speaker 1: of the balance. I think he's got quickness. I'm a
Speaker 1: fan of how tough he is, he tackled, the way
Speaker 1: he defends the ball. There are a lot of things
Speaker 1: about him. He was a guy who started watched a
Speaker 1: little late. I got him from Dane studying some of
Speaker 1: his stuff. I said, oh, this is a cat I
Speaker 1: need to watch. And I was very impressed with his
Speaker 1: work at Minnesota because of the late his ability to
Speaker 1: play the ball, and how he was able to tackle.
Speaker 1: So really quickly, let's go around the table. Biggest need
Speaker 1: thoughts about the Cowboys as they are on the clock here,
Speaker 1: starting with you, Jeff, where do you think they're going?
Speaker 1: Biggest needs would probably be somewhere with safety d tackle.
Speaker 1: I mean you could go a lot of ways. You
Speaker 1: could talk about the offensive line to go anywhere Edges, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of different ways you could go.
Speaker 1: So I would just be looking at players and I
Speaker 1: think Elijah Molden, Pauls and Adebo if he had to
Speaker 1: melafan Wu. Probably not linebacker, right, So get rid of
Speaker 1: Baron Browning and Jabril Cox, Ronnie Perkins edge Oklahoma. But
Speaker 1: the defensive line, these defensive tackles, this is where the
Speaker 1: third round where that runs going to be. So between
Speaker 1: you on Nixon at Iowa and Oh Diggi Zuoa Ucla,
Speaker 1: the UC, the USC kids. Uh, what are the defensive
Speaker 1: tackles Togi I we have? So I think that this
Speaker 1: is where we start to talk about those players and
Speaker 1: who is going to impact this roster. Uh. It's a
Speaker 1: really interesting mix of different types of talents there. Do
Speaker 1: you have a favorite in that mix? I already I
Speaker 1: made my love known for Togi I, so I don't
Speaker 1: need to stand on that. Yeah, an order to mine
Speaker 1: would be Marvin Wilson, Tie Poloto at USC Togia would
Speaker 1: be my guy for sure. Um Bobby brown Shelvyn Nixon
Speaker 1: to fil A O Diggi Zuoa. Yeah. I mean I
Speaker 1: don't like to say, you know, that's why I asked
Speaker 1: you about Nixon stuff like that, because I wasn't as
Speaker 1: high on him as the others. And you know the
Speaker 1: guys you mentioned Togi I wasn't high on and oh
Speaker 1: Diggi Zua I had in the fourth round. So I'm
Speaker 1: you know, we'll see what how this all plays out.
Speaker 1: One thing I like about some of these guys is
Speaker 1: that they all kind of tested well. If you go
Speaker 1: down the list, you look at Tommy Togi I, you
Speaker 1: look at O Diggi Zooa. I mean, Milton Williams is
Speaker 1: off the board. He obviously was the better tester out
Speaker 1: of the group, I think. But I mean specifically about
Speaker 1: these guys, I've got oh diggi zoo highlighted here, but
Speaker 1: he had really long arms. He was a quick, quick
Speaker 1: shuttle time. I mean, he's athletic enough Dane. But out
Speaker 1: of these tight end or excuse me, out of these
Speaker 1: defensive tackles, where did you stand? I mean, my highest
Speaker 1: ranked out of that group is probably the USC kid.
Speaker 1: Yeah to a plow too as well. But you know,
Speaker 1: there's I really do like togy I, you know, diggi
Speaker 1: zoo with two guys that I think you know can
Speaker 1: help you inside and outside. And that's the thing with
Speaker 1: a Diggi Zooa, they lose Tyrn Crawford. Oh diggi Zooa
Speaker 1: gives you that inside outside versatility at six one and
Speaker 1: a half two eighty two pounds, can play inside, can
Speaker 1: play outside. The defensive line depth that he would provide.
Speaker 1: I think that that definitely stands out. So the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have made their pick. They will send up a representative
Speaker 1: to announce the pick in the Cowboys selection here on
Speaker 1: the Draft Show, as always presented by Miller Lions, one
Speaker 1: of the best guitarists in the world. All right, how
Speaker 1: about that pick us a good player there, Adrian Cassada.
Speaker 1: With the seventy fifth pick in the twenty twenty one
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, the Dallas Cowboys will select defensive tackle Osa
Speaker 1: oh Dicky Sua from UCLA and another need is checked
Speaker 1: off the list for the Dallas Cowboys. The resident from Portland, Oregon,
Speaker 1: five two almost two hundred and eighty two pounds Dane
Speaker 1: scouting report, A long player, thirty four inch arms. He's explosive.
Speaker 1: I love the way he uses his physical hands to
Speaker 1: snatch to stay under control. It is the former wrestler.
Speaker 1: He was a state champion wrestler at the high school level.
Speaker 1: Second wrestler the Cowboys have taken in this draft because
Speaker 1: Parsons was as well. Yeah, and a guy that was
Speaker 1: productive twenty seven and a half tackles for loss over
Speaker 1: his career. You know, there's just a lot to like
Speaker 1: about the raw talent. He needs to get better in
Speaker 1: some areas, just in terms of patching together as moves
Speaker 1: and you know, just the fundamentals of being a pass rusher.
Speaker 1: But he has disruptive qualities, the length, the power, and
Speaker 1: I think he can you know is you don't have
Speaker 1: to say you don't have to put him in an
Speaker 1: exact spot for him to be productive. Line him up outside,
Speaker 1: line him up inside. You know, you can just move
Speaker 1: him around and be creative. He's gonna give you something
Speaker 1: that scheme versatility, that's I mean, you know I already
Speaker 1: toy I was my guy. I would assume this probably
Speaker 1: takes him off the board, which is mate, we'll see,
Speaker 1: but yeah, slightly disappointing. My point was gonna be for
Speaker 1: so many years. I always used to say the Cowboys
Speaker 1: felt like paint by numbers, Like it was like, well,
Speaker 1: we need him to do this, like he only does that.
Speaker 1: Oh and he's a one and he's a three. We
Speaker 1: can't draft him because of this. If you're telling me
Speaker 1: this guy is that versatile, I enjoy that. I like
Speaker 1: a guy that can move all over the place. I
Speaker 1: like the long arms too. Yeah. And the interesting thing
Speaker 1: about him is like I put him in the fourth
Speaker 1: round because I wasn't entirely sure what to do with him,
Speaker 1: because at two hundred and eighty pounds or whatever, I
Speaker 1: felt like some of his best traits were almost as
Speaker 1: a one technique we're talking about a two hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty pound guy, but he won't he'd win the leverage battle,
Speaker 1: he would play the run really well. And so I
Speaker 1: was just a little bit thrown off because I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: he has a lot of the like the stout physical
Speaker 1: traits as if he was three twenty, but he's doing
Speaker 1: it at two eighty and he tested as a decent athlete.
Speaker 1: So I may actually have been too low on him
Speaker 1: because the things about him that I liked I liked.
Speaker 1: So that's the thing is I gave a fourth round
Speaker 1: grade as well. But you know, I read my sky
Speaker 1: ro for it. I'm like, it's a good. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think when it comes down to it, the length, the power,
Speaker 1: and his ability to be disruptive. Focusing on that, I
Speaker 1: do like this player a little bit higher than you know,
Speaker 1: I thought he'd be drafted and over some players that
Speaker 1: maybe I had great and higher. But this is a
Speaker 1: good player. So I'm not gonna, you know, say this
Speaker 1: is a bad pick at all. So you're not. That's
Speaker 1: not just a complete cell job. You're like, probably not
Speaker 1: what I would have done, But this is a good decision. No,
Speaker 1: I trust me. I would be completely honest with you
Speaker 1: if I didn't like the pick, or if I thought
Speaker 1: this was a reach. I think he's a He's just
Speaker 1: a player that you watch and you like him. He
Speaker 1: did a nice job at the Senior Bowl. I thought,
Speaker 1: you know, he was one of the few defensive tackles
Speaker 1: down there that held his own against Creed Humphrey and
Speaker 1: Quinn Miners. But he's just an easy guy to length. Again,
Speaker 1: it comes back to the explosive nature and the length
Speaker 1: and just the competitiveness that you know, the fact that
Speaker 1: he was a three time state champion wrestler. I think
Speaker 1: that shines through with his tape, with the balance at
Speaker 1: the point of attack, and just that grit that he
Speaker 1: plays with. Brian, you look stressed over there. Do you
Speaker 1: like this pick? No? I do. I just I was
Speaker 1: just working through some things. No, you're busy over there
Speaker 1: just people texting me. It's driving me nuts. I saw
Speaker 1: the same thing. I mean, I think I had him too.
Speaker 1: I think I had him too low. I had him
Speaker 1: in the fourth round as well, and it was like,
Speaker 1: I've seen him play the nose and I've seen him
Speaker 1: play the undertackle. I thought he was super active and
Speaker 1: he's always on the move. He's always working towards the ball.
Speaker 1: The first step, quickness, the burst. This is funny. When
Speaker 1: you start reading your notes, you realize what a clown
Speaker 1: you are for putting him where you did. But he
Speaker 1: comes across the line quickly. He could be disruptive. I
Speaker 1: like how he got into the backfield. You see him
Speaker 1: play on the opponent's side of the line. He'll fight blocks.
Speaker 1: I mean he's fine with getting off blocks. The hands,
Speaker 1: the quickness, I mean, the effort, the technique is a
Speaker 1: pass rush is good. He's got some slipperiness to his game.
Speaker 1: And I think they used him on some games where
Speaker 1: he was able to effect the pocket that way too.
Speaker 1: So good finisher round the ball, he'll wrap his man up.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I feel like to me that Dallas probably
Speaker 1: had him right. And my notes what I just read
Speaker 1: to you is making it sound like that that I
Speaker 1: had him in the wrong round. Maybe she'd been a
Speaker 1: little bit higher. I feel like a crazy person right
Speaker 1: now because and I mean this with admiration, like y'all
Speaker 1: are not afraid to let your feelings be known, and
Speaker 1: like if you think the Cowboys screwed up, you say it,
Speaker 1: do it all the time, and y'all are all just like, Ah,
Speaker 1: I guess I was wrong about this guy. I'll admit it,
Speaker 1: because you know when the way this kid reads where
Speaker 1: I read my notes, and that's where I had this
Speaker 1: distressed look on my face because I was reading these
Speaker 1: notes and I'm like going, Okay, why did I not
Speaker 1: have him higher up? None of us did, though, and
Speaker 1: he just kind of slipped under the radar. I don't know, Well,
Speaker 1: he just you watch a bunch of players and you
Speaker 1: lose track of where you have guys. I'll be burtly on.
Speaker 1: That's what I value y'all so much. I do what
Speaker 1: I can. I didn't watch him, so I'm leaning on y'all. Well.
Speaker 1: To me, it was just that I think I put
Speaker 1: him there because he was strange, because most of my
Speaker 1: notes read like, look, it's a guy with upside, but
Speaker 1: it's a guy that plays like a guy that would
Speaker 1: play a nose tackle for you and needs two hundred
Speaker 1: and eighty pounds. So that didn't really add up. But
Speaker 1: if you're gonna move him up and down the line,
Speaker 1: like I think he'll be a useful NFL player as
Speaker 1: a rookie. Now, if you want to go up and
Speaker 1: down the players you have available, I would have rather
Speaker 1: they double dipped at corner and grab Paulson a debo
Speaker 1: or if you had to melafon Wu, I would have
Speaker 1: comfortably rather had those players. It's just it's a name
Speaker 1: that I wasn't ready to hear at that spot. But
Speaker 1: then you read your notes, you're like, oh, he can help.
Speaker 1: So it's not one of them. I mean, it's not
Speaker 1: one of my top ten or fifteen players. But it's
Speaker 1: just I don't know, like something about when you you
Speaker 1: read the notes on a player and you go, oh, well,
Speaker 1: that is a guy I liked, so he's gonna be
Speaker 1: on the team. Okay, I think that's a first. And again,
Speaker 1: like I'm not making fun of y'all. I love that
Speaker 1: that y'all are like, oh yeah, Like I'm looking over
Speaker 1: my notes, this seems like this is good to me.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think Kat's ripping r you know what
Speaker 1: right now? On techs he really is. He's like, get
Speaker 1: him Dave. Kat said he had a five on him.
Speaker 1: He says, a garbage pick. Wow, I'm reading your KT.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna call it out, I'll let you get
Speaker 1: it called and get it on there. How about that.
Speaker 1: We do have secret audio from the selection. Let's hear
Speaker 1: just what the Cowboys were thinking whenever they talk to
Speaker 1: the newest Dallas Cowboys. Oh, diggi Zowa from UCLA. Oh,
Speaker 1: so this is Jerry Jones with Cowboys. Hello, thank you, Hey, listen,
Speaker 1: I think we've got a good enough connection here there.
Speaker 1: He goes, Okay, well, I know you can hear me.
Speaker 1: But we shore our proude, we shore our pride. We're
Speaker 1: turning your card in, but we're proud that you're part
Speaker 1: of the team. Man. Congratulations too, Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for the opportunity. Well, you've you've really worked hard to
Speaker 1: get this spot, and everybody really in this room respects
Speaker 1: you for playing at this level to be drafted at
Speaker 1: this spot. But what we're really excited about is you
Speaker 1: getting to be a part of the Cowboys and us
Speaker 1: together really doing something special. So listen. One of the
Speaker 1: reason we're gonna get to is gonna hand you the
Speaker 1: phone to a coach, Mike McCarthy. And he's a big
Speaker 1: man in your corner here, so I want you to
Speaker 1: talk to him here he is. Oh, so congratulations. Hey,
Speaker 1: are you having some fun? Oh you bet? Hey, man,
Speaker 1: God bless you join this time with your family and friends.
Speaker 1: And I'm really looking forward to getting you out here
Speaker 1: next week. All right, all right, all right, you're looking
Speaker 1: forward to making you're a cowboy, my man, God bless,
Speaker 1: I promise. Oh, I know that awesome. Always love the
Speaker 1: secret audio. And you heard that there from Jerry Jones.
Speaker 1: I don't want to read too far into it, but
Speaker 1: he said, here's Mike McCarthy, a big man in your corner.
Speaker 1: You think this might have been McCarthy looking a guy
Speaker 1: down the list a little bit? Yeah, I mean, I mean, hey,
Speaker 1: that's that's his job, right and and especially in a
Speaker 1: year which I know you know they can go confer
Speaker 1: with other people, but there's only ten people allowed in
Speaker 1: that room. That's this is almost as interesting as doing
Speaker 1: it all over zoom because you can't have the same
Speaker 1: level of conversations. But yeah, like McCarthy, McCarthy knows who
Speaker 1: he likes. I don't have a problem believing that. It's
Speaker 1: a good point. By the way, since the Cowboys selected
Speaker 1: seventy six overall, the New Yorleans Saints select Paulson Adebo
Speaker 1: Texas product actually Mansfield product down of DFW. He is
Speaker 1: a corner out of Stanford. Seventy seven. The Chargers take
Speaker 1: wide receiver Josh Josh Palmer, Chargers again coming up there
Speaker 1: and making it out of Tennessee. Yeah, did you like Palmer? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the guy we were just talking about, you know, Tennessee.
Speaker 1: He's playing with like a quarterback that's throwing it all
Speaker 1: over the yard at quarterback and he's coming down with
Speaker 1: the ball. He's like he Certan couldn't cut. I mean,
Speaker 1: you could watch him. He's having production against all these
Speaker 1: Georgia kids, Alabama kids. It doesn't matter. He's going out there.
Speaker 1: He swept six one, two and fifteen pounds. It's a
Speaker 1: good looking kid at the number five growing up getting
Speaker 1: that football. Love. His toughness yeah a lot. I mean
Speaker 1: he's not the fastest guy in the world, but he
Speaker 1: does just enough where he can win vertically, and you know,
Speaker 1: we saw him Stacks or Tana. I had a tough
Speaker 1: time where to just rank him because you know, like
Speaker 1: I like Yami Brown better. I like Amory Rogers better.
Speaker 1: You know, some of these wide receivers that haven't been
Speaker 1: taken yet I like better. But I don't necessarily hate
Speaker 1: the pick here with Josh Palmer because he's a good player.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like the DIGGI Zua like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's do I have other defensive tackles rated higher? Sure,
Speaker 1: same thing with wide receiver, but I don't dislike the
Speaker 1: pick because it's a good player. And then of course
Speaker 1: a Debo off the board. Jeff, you were really high
Speaker 1: on the Stanford corner. Yeah, that's my guy. A Debo's
Speaker 1: my guy. I wish the Cowboys would have taken him
Speaker 1: at seventy five. You like him or melofon Wu better.
Speaker 1: I actually like the Debo better. And I liked both
Speaker 1: of them, but I like a Debo better. A Debo
Speaker 1: had just he had to in his two years before
Speaker 1: opting out. He had to lead the He had to
Speaker 1: lead college football and ball production. Because I thinking back
Speaker 1: back years, it was seventeen passes defended and then ten
Speaker 1: and it was four interceptions in each year, so his
Speaker 1: hands were on the football all the time. And I
Speaker 1: think what happened to him in twenty nineteen is people
Speaker 1: realized how aggressive he was, and that's why he batted
Speaker 1: down seventeen passes and eighteen and so they hit him
Speaker 1: with a bunch of double moves. But outside of that aggression,
Speaker 1: I didn't have a lot of complaints about a Debo's game.
Speaker 1: I think that he's fast, quick, long man or zone.
Speaker 1: So I was a big a Debo fan. I would
Speaker 1: have loved have seen the Cowboys just double dip and say,
Speaker 1: you know what, we got a lot of corners and
Speaker 1: we're ready to rock. It seems like almost too many corners. Honestly,
Speaker 1: he might be right, well, you never have too much,
Speaker 1: but I mean that's not that's too many guys. It
Speaker 1: would mean that Reggie Robinson would have a hard time
Speaker 1: being acts well. Also, and I mean, let's be let's
Speaker 1: be honest too. Is with um you don't want to
Speaker 1: protect yourself with Kelvin Joseph, With Calvin josephari All I'm
Speaker 1: saying is with Calvin Josephardi here, if you draft a Devo,
Speaker 1: then somebody who's worth a lot is not playing, whether
Speaker 1: that's Jordan Lewis or Anthony Brown or one of these
Speaker 1: draft picks. Yeah, corners just to me, I feel like
Speaker 1: every week one of your corners is going to be hurt.
Speaker 1: Like corner. Sure, I want to have six of them.
Speaker 1: In the real world, you want to have six And
Speaker 1: you know, I get it. You want the best players possible,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: follow the money, follow the resources. Like you don't want
Speaker 1: a top one hundred pick not playing because there's four
Speaker 1: guys that are better than him. Yeah, I guess it
Speaker 1: just hurts my heart that their corner need no longer
Speaker 1: lines up with what I think is still a strength
Speaker 1: of the draft. Yeah, with a Deebo and meliflor Wu
Speaker 1: and Shaker Brown and like there's there's still those guys
Speaker 1: are still available though, right, But and you've got you've
Speaker 1: got a pick in five selections. But if you took
Speaker 1: oh Diggi Zuoa over those guys, how many other guys
Speaker 1: are gonna take over them? Yeah? Like, I just don't
Speaker 1: know if they're gonna pull the trigger on another corner.
Speaker 1: I guess it's just an interesting. It's an interesting thought,
Speaker 1: and I'm not I'm not hating on them because obviously
Speaker 1: you can't predict this stuff. But like if you would,
Speaker 1: if you knew ahead of time who would be available
Speaker 1: late on day two, would you have signed Jordan Lewis
Speaker 1: to an extension? No? Yeah, probably not, maybe not, but
Speaker 1: you can't count on that either. So I some wish
Speaker 1: that the draft was before fregency. Wow, wouldn't that be great?
Speaker 1: How wild would it be if we could just do
Speaker 1: this on like March tenth. I'm not ready for that. Well, see,
Speaker 1: you need the time because you watch everybody whereas I
Speaker 1: do what I can. I'm like, let's roll, baby, Dane'll
Speaker 1: pick up the slack for me. Yeah, you only have
Speaker 1: one rough year and then you'd be back to having
Speaker 1: a calendar year. It would just be next one that
Speaker 1: would be tough, and then you'd be fine. You'd be
Speaker 1: right back on track. So the Raiders are on the
Speaker 1: board at seventy nine. You've got eighty being the Raiders again.
Speaker 1: Then you've got the Dolphins, the football team, the Bears,
Speaker 1: and then the Cowboys. And here's the brilliant thing. If
Speaker 1: you didn't like the O DIGGI zooa pick, which I
Speaker 1: don't think it was a bad pick. We all kind
Speaker 1: of looked at it and said, yeah, we probably could
Speaker 1: have had him higher. Katie thinks we're cowards. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, you picking five selections all, I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess it's more than that. It's nine selections later.
Speaker 1: But you get to turn around and do it again. Now,
Speaker 1: what are you thinking. You got your three biggest needs
Speaker 1: out of the way, interior defensive line, your need for
Speaker 1: a corner at your need for a linebacker, I mean
Speaker 1: safety here is still a potential. Maybe you're looking at
Speaker 1: a Melafon Wu in there as well. Maybe you're looking
Speaker 1: for an offensive tackle. Could you throw a wide receiver
Speaker 1: if you wanted to go get a Thailand Wallace out
Speaker 1: of Oklahoma State. Don't tempt me with a good time.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, don't tempt me with a good time
Speaker 1: because he's Michael Gallup is not a certainty. He's a fave.
Speaker 1: He's a fave for sure. You're Tylan Wallace, guy, I'm
Speaker 1: an a'man Ross Saint Brown love him too. And Amari
Speaker 1: Rodgers guy, Oh he's good too, I'm brown. They're all good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's good receivers loft. I just I do wonder with
Speaker 1: THEO Dicky zoo a pick that some of the guys
Speaker 1: that we're talking about is the best players available? Are
Speaker 1: they just done picking them? Like? Are they like yeah,
Speaker 1: unless it's like kicking us in the face in the
Speaker 1: fifth or sixth round, Like we're not gonna take a corner?
Speaker 1: Are we about to watch them follow a roadmap of
Speaker 1: positions of need now? And who was the start of that?
Speaker 1: Are we about to grab a tackle? Is it the
Speaker 1: start or that? Like they've been doing it this whole time? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but on the first two, wouldn't you say it matches
Speaker 1: up at least closely to the top of the board
Speaker 1: that Parsons was one of the best available and Kelvin
Speaker 1: joseph was one of the best available. By R. Johnson's
Speaker 1: still there, I would love that. My brain is mush
Speaker 1: Who else was there besides Kelvin Joseph? I mean it
Speaker 1: kind of felt like they got truly wiped out in
Speaker 1: that situation. Well, I think only all their safeties were gone.
Speaker 1: We lost the safeties, the corners, only the two Georgia
Speaker 1: kids were gone. Tackles. You still had Walker, little Jackson
Speaker 1: Carmen Samuel Cosme. I guess I just again, I just
Speaker 1: I came into the day thinking that they were going
Speaker 1: to spend that pick on a dB, and so maybe
Speaker 1: that's why I felt like, if you're thinking about going
Speaker 1: out getting need guys, do you think enough of Molden
Speaker 1: to be just a nickel A nickel slot, I'd be
Speaker 1: okay with that. Safety totally fun. Don't you currently have
Speaker 1: the same battle at nickel you've had for the last
Speaker 1: four years? Though you have Jordan and Anthony Brown? Do
Speaker 1: you want to do that kids outside? Well, they do.
Speaker 1: They brought him both back. I wouldn't necessarily want to
Speaker 1: do that. Again. Well, I think they brought Anthony Brown
Speaker 1: back to cover themselves because he can theoretically do both.
Speaker 1: Like they don't see him as purely a nickel. The
Speaker 1: Raiders selection is in, by the way, seventy ninth pick
Speaker 1: in the NFL draft. Here in round three were five
Speaker 1: selections away from the Dallas Cowboys. For those of you
Speaker 1: on the air with us, John will pick a bad
Speaker 1: player on you. I don't tell. John's not afraid to
Speaker 1: mess these things up. Ters do whatever the hell they want.
Speaker 1: John will pick a bad play. Yeah, you could tell
Speaker 1: him that to his face and he'll like, m F
Speaker 1: you while you're doing it. Yeah, that's fun. He's a
Speaker 1: lot of fun with to pick him. Yeah, he guys.
Speaker 1: He's don't have to work for a general manager ten
Speaker 1: million a year. Two. Yeah, we're also going to take
Speaker 1: a break right after this pick is over. The pick
Speaker 1: is edge Malcolm Coons out of buff Low. That'll be
Speaker 1: an interesting one to talk about it. We're gonna step aside. Though.
Speaker 1: You're listening to the twenty twenty one NFL Draft. On
Speaker 1: one to five three, the fan in Dallas Cowboys dot
Speaker 1: Com told you Jon Gruden don't care. He doesn't care
Speaker 1: how thinks. Okay, I told you don't care. Gruden needs
Speaker 1: Dane bad. I might not. I might not watch it.
Speaker 1: I don't watch every player, but I've heard of most
Speaker 1: of these guys. I think that I'm at my first like,
Speaker 1: who the hell is this guy? You don't know that guy?
Speaker 1: I don't think I I was not high on this guy,
Speaker 1: and I might be very wrong. Um he's a good athlete,
Speaker 1: he's just he's undersized. Um he's more of a runaround
Speaker 1: rusher than a guy that's going to go through contact consistently.
Speaker 1: I gave him a seventh round grade. So, but like
Speaker 1: I might be very wrong, It's very possible he turns
Speaker 1: out to be a good player. But which it's a
Speaker 1: Raider pick. I'll defend the Raiders for a second because
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a team like this every year
Speaker 1: where you say, so they drafted Leatherwood and then they
Speaker 1: drafted merrig and they kind of they caught some flak
Speaker 1: for drafting Leatherwood where they did. But if you flipped
Speaker 1: it and said they drafted Marriag at seventeen and Leatherwood
Speaker 1: at forty three, Mike work he said they had a
Speaker 1: great draft. Yeah, I mean I think they I like
Speaker 1: those two picks a lot. I don't know what to
Speaker 1: do with this, but Leatherwood as seventeen. I mean, they
Speaker 1: have a track record of doing this. I'm saying, or Alabama,
Speaker 1: Mike may I goes to Alabama and they kiss his
Speaker 1: ass the whole thing. Ohio State in there, too, But
Speaker 1: they did it last year with Damon Arnett. They had
Speaker 1: back to back picks, by the way, and they just
Speaker 1: took safety divine. Mike, I've always said John John John
Speaker 1: walked out of the room for a minute. Gruden is
Speaker 1: good at this. He forgot he had back to back.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, walked away, Oh what happened? The Ablo
Speaker 1: is one of my guys. I like Diablo too, go
Speaker 1: into it then, Jeff, Well, I just again, I go
Speaker 1: into watching guys kind of assuming things about them. And
Speaker 1: when I went in to watch Divine Diablo, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty pounds too, like I'm about to
Speaker 1: watch a linebacker. But he's back there at safety and
Speaker 1: he can play a deep path. He played up deep
Speaker 1: some he plays forward. I like him tackling in the
Speaker 1: run game. I like the tackle radius he has with
Speaker 1: his length. There's awareness in there. You watch him picking
Speaker 1: off Trevor Lawrence in the back of the end zone.
Speaker 1: I think Diablo's a good player, and I know I
Speaker 1: was hirer on him than most people, but I had
Speaker 1: him as like a second round guy. I was a
Speaker 1: big fan so at eighty, Like I said, John Gruden's
Speaker 1: really good at this guys. He always picks the good players.
Speaker 1: He left the room for a minute. I made that
Speaker 1: Steed in there, there's a conversation to be shout out Walter,
Speaker 1: There's there's a conversation to be had about positional value. Like,
Speaker 1: I get it, there were better players. All I'm saying
Speaker 1: like they've they've made three picks and I like or
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, they've made four picks and I like three
Speaker 1: of them a lot. You just don't know who Malcolm
Speaker 1: Koons is though. I don't know. But hey, they get
Speaker 1: down with that Buffalo tape. No, sure, didn't you know?
Speaker 1: Like tape? Again? I follow the biases of the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, when they draft, let me know
Speaker 1: when they draft a Buffalo defensive end one day two.
Speaker 1: They're not going to do that. Get out of here.
Speaker 1: That's why I didn't understand the Milton Williams thing. It's
Speaker 1: like Louisiana attack on day two doesn't make sense. Would
Speaker 1: you guys consider taking Jabril Cox here? I like the room.
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? Yeah, who's getting cut? It's
Speaker 1: gonna be an edge rusher. I'm just saying, no, I
Speaker 1: mean a linebacker that can cover. Can I trade number
Speaker 1: fifty four from Okay? That's what I mean. I'm with you.
Speaker 1: Molden is my highest rated guy left, absolutely my highest rating.
Speaker 1: Can I trade both my linebackers? Long ahead of both?
Speaker 1: Brevin Jordan and Tommy Trumbull. That's a little surprised, is
Speaker 1: that Miami? Yeah, one Hunter long to out of Boston
Speaker 1: College to Miami. You freaked me out. You freaked me
Speaker 1: out when you do this because there's something you don't
Speaker 1: You're always like, we would you do this? And what
Speaker 1: it really means is that it's already He's already in
Speaker 1: the conversation, just trying to make you think, because that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Jeff. You know I did these shows
Speaker 1: every day. Would you have jeffs tell me about, Hey,
Speaker 1: this guy, this guy can cover, this guy can cover.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, case lsu, Yeah, he's right, he can cover.
Speaker 1: But I was just wondering, you know, that's the reason.
Speaker 1: And again what's what's done is done? Oh what's up?
Speaker 1: Oh we have the newest Dallas Cowboy there. Oh so
Speaker 1: DIGGI zoo out of UCLA. First off, congratulations, welcome to
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. We're glad you're here. Tell us just
Speaker 1: how this day is gone for you and what's going
Speaker 1: through your mind right now. It's been a nerve day,
Speaker 1: you know, it's uh, there's a moment that you I've
Speaker 1: been waiting for my whole function. But I I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm glad. I'm glad to be a partner the Dallas Cowboy.
Speaker 1: I'm right now, smooth. Absolutely, That's that's awesome and congratulations.
Speaker 1: I'm curious. You know, before you hopped on with us,
Speaker 1: we were talking about, uh, your your flexibility, your versatility.
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear it straight from the horse's mouth
Speaker 1: coming in you know right away as a rookie, what
Speaker 1: do you think you do best? How do you think
Speaker 1: you can help the Dallas Cowboys the quickest. I feel
Speaker 1: like this is a scheme for people that talks one
Speaker 1: of the STA article attack defensive line mentality. So that's
Speaker 1: something that I feel like. It's my strongest students. You're
Speaker 1: getting off the ball, being disruptive up the field and
Speaker 1: just uh you know, knocking guns back and sending a
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and the time that I'm playing. So
Speaker 1: I feel like it goes with when I do very
Speaker 1: well and it's it's my skill, so I can come
Speaker 1: in pride. Do you feel like Oh so you feel
Speaker 1: like you? You like we were talking about you kind
Speaker 1: of playing what we would call the under tackle or
Speaker 1: that three technique on that outside shoulder or playing that
Speaker 1: one technique is like almost like the nose. Either position
Speaker 1: good for you? Playing tackle? I mean you're you're right
Speaker 1: when you watch your tape, you're up the field, if
Speaker 1: you're attacking, you're on the other side of the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. Is your one particular spot you feel like
Speaker 1: you're a little bit better at or is it like, hey,
Speaker 1: just plug me and let me go. I mean, I
Speaker 1: feel the best at the three tech, but put me
Speaker 1: in wherever. You know, I'm not a guy that has
Speaker 1: my heart set on a single position, particularly, I don't
Speaker 1: want to be on the field, so you know, wherever,
Speaker 1: wherever they're ask me to plan where I plan on
Speaker 1: and going one hundred and ten percent every snap. Oh so,
Speaker 1: my favorite thing about your tape is that list You're
Speaker 1: listed at like two hundred and eighty pounds and then
Speaker 1: I'll watch you line up all over the place and
Speaker 1: there's three hundred and thirty pound blockers and like they
Speaker 1: don't have a chance to move you. So my favorite
Speaker 1: thing to do in that situation is to look up
Speaker 1: how good of a wrestler was this guy they can't
Speaker 1: move And the answer was three time state champ. So
Speaker 1: how much does does that help you in terms of
Speaker 1: leverage and being like, I congrats on being three hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty pounds, but I'm not moving. I'm sorry. Looks
Speaker 1: looks like we lost o Diggi Zua. But hey, congratulations.
Speaker 1: If you can still hear us, we are excited to
Speaker 1: have you in Dallas and get to talk to you
Speaker 1: very very soon. There he goes Osa, oh Diggi Zua,
Speaker 1: the defensive tackle out of UCLA, filling that need for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys right in the middle of that defensive line.
Speaker 1: We gotta get a better connection here. Well, okay, these kids.
Speaker 1: The first thing the news buy phones. Just buy a phone,
Speaker 1: are a really good or plan or whatever. Somebody somebody
Speaker 1: who lives in a concrete shoebox of an apartment, I
Speaker 1: identify with that problem very well. So maybe he just
Speaker 1: didn't want to have to go outside to talk on
Speaker 1: the phone. Maybe we should blame us since we're in
Speaker 1: the biggest that's fair. We haven't used this phone line
Speaker 1: two years almost it's gonna warm up. Yeah, we gotta
Speaker 1: get it back in the get back into action. So well,
Speaker 1: we've we're getting closer. Eighty four is the next pick
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. The pick is in for the Washington
Speaker 1: football team. They are at eighty two. In between Washington
Speaker 1: and Dallas are the Chicago Bears at eighty three. Last
Speaker 1: couple picks Hunter long tight end from Boston College, goes
Speaker 1: to Miami. And then we've got Divine Diablo, the safety
Speaker 1: for Virginia Tank going to Las Vegas. Dane, what are
Speaker 1: you thinking about our NFC's foe Washington here at the moment,
Speaker 1: Let's see they need wide receiver. Hope they they drafted
Speaker 1: cos Me in the seconds they address left task saying
Speaker 1: juice in the third. Okay, so tight end because Tommy Trumbull,
Speaker 1: brevn Jordans, because a wide receiver with a Marii Rodgers
Speaker 1: or Deommy Brown, that seems like the most likely area
Speaker 1: they could go. They went linebacker in the first, so
Speaker 1: really give your quarterback of pass catcher here and wide
Speaker 1: receiver a tight end is where Oh Deommy Brown, there
Speaker 1: we go. Best double move receiver in the draft. Speed
Speaker 1: can win, vertically tracks the ball really really well. It's
Speaker 1: still limited with that route tree, but a guy with
Speaker 1: the big play potentially average over twenty yards per catch
Speaker 1: each of the last two years. Love the speed I'd
Speaker 1: like this pick for Washington. Don't like it if you're
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Yeah, that's a good player going at eighty two.
Speaker 1: By the way, miss Boke, it's actually Carolina at eighty
Speaker 1: three after that trade earlier in the round. Is edge
Speaker 1: rusher next up for the Cowboys? Because we talked about
Speaker 1: Jabrille Cox here, right, Brian, I mean back through his
Speaker 1: name out there, because you got a coverage linebacker, That's
Speaker 1: what That's the only thing I was talking about with him.
Speaker 1: Any chance for an edge rusher though, I mean we
Speaker 1: passed on Carlos Basham and things of the sword. There's Perkins.
Speaker 1: I like snowdon I know there's some people that might
Speaker 1: not like him. He's out of Virginia. Virginia. Weaver Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: is another guy. We think a guy like Snowdan fits
Speaker 1: this team, though, do you think fits I think I
Speaker 1: think Virginia did him a huge disservice by asking him
Speaker 1: to drop and playing coverage and all that. But they
Speaker 1: when he was rushing the passer, I thought he was
Speaker 1: pretty impressive doing that, you know, But when they they
Speaker 1: would ask him to drop it, it wasn't he looked
Speaker 1: terrible doing that, but they had that three man line.
Speaker 1: They played three down guys, and he was a stand
Speaker 1: up like almost like an outside linebacker. I kind of
Speaker 1: feel like with his length that if you get him
Speaker 1: on the edge and let him attack, he could cover
Speaker 1: some ground in those first couple of steps. I saw
Speaker 1: a pretty good, pretty good pass rusher there. But I
Speaker 1: think the Perkins kid. I have the Perkins kid from
Speaker 1: you know, so, uh we'll see yeah, Perkins. I think
Speaker 1: for me Perkins and Rashad Weaver Ronnie Perkins. Oh you
Speaker 1: Rashad Weaver Packers are my two guys too. If you
Speaker 1: if you were going to go with an edge guy,
Speaker 1: I think those guys work. Uh if O Diggi Zuwa
Speaker 1: is here to play the three, which is where he
Speaker 1: said he was most comfortable. Would you still take a
Speaker 1: one technique where you still got some guys that we
Speaker 1: really like? Um gosh, they could go a number of
Speaker 1: different ways. I still love Elijah Mold and if you
Speaker 1: had to medal fun will um so you still got
Speaker 1: good player. I mean I like the receivers that are
Speaker 1: left too. So the Dallas Cowboys are officially on the
Speaker 1: clock as the Panthers just selected Notre Dame tight end
Speaker 1: Tommy Tremble. We think an edge. Are we thinking running
Speaker 1: back or not running back? Excuse me, I don't know
Speaker 1: what I'm telling I read running back down here, I
Speaker 1: was running. I was reading running back here, edge rusher,
Speaker 1: maybe a safety if you wanted to go that direction.
Speaker 1: Anything here. I I'm prepared to be disappointed. I'm prepared
Speaker 1: for them to not draft Moulden, which is what I
Speaker 1: would do. I would do that too. Um. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just maybe you go with a guard here. They
Speaker 1: don't like his size. You always think that they would
Speaker 1: like at this point in time, would maybe think about
Speaker 1: the tackle McCarthy offense. I'm feeling either at this pick
Speaker 1: or at ninety nine, they would take a tackle. Which
Speaker 1: one's your favorite? That's left Hudson or Smith? I mocked
Speaker 1: him Smith. I thought that Hudson would have been gone
Speaker 1: by now, to be honest with you. So here's Tommy Trimble.
Speaker 1: He just went, yeah, Carolina, read that a couple seconds ago.
Speaker 1: That you're good. Notre Dame tight end, Tommy Trimble. That's
Speaker 1: the fourth tight end taken. Now, yes, fourth tight end takeing.
Speaker 1: Brevin Jordan's still available. He of course had conversations with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys that made some noise, Spencer Brown, Tyland Wallace,
Speaker 1: Anthony Schwartz, or hanging around at receiver Nico Collins. I'm
Speaker 1: literally just reading a list right now. I mean this,
Speaker 1: this is why I wanted to take, which I know
Speaker 1: they went ahead of time, but like I'm imagining a
Speaker 1: world where they drafted the corner at ten and Jabril
Speaker 1: Cox is still sitting way down here. I feel really
Speaker 1: good about I mean, drafting him. They wouldn't be picking
Speaker 1: right now in that situation, but you get my point.
Speaker 1: I just I love the linebacker. I love this linebacker class,
Speaker 1: particularly on Day two. I would draft him if you
Speaker 1: hadn't already drafted Michael Parsons. I'm just not sure how
Speaker 1: you manage all those line ackers if that's what you
Speaker 1: were to do. The pick is in, so that's good.
Speaker 1: That's good. They made their decisions. So that's fun. Michael
Speaker 1: Irvin and showing off and working the crowd a little
Speaker 1: bit in Cleveland. Of course, the Cowboys picked so far
Speaker 1: at twelve Micah Parsons. Linebacker corner Kelvin Joseph was the
Speaker 1: first pick of Day two. He was at forty four,
Speaker 1: and then we just talked to him Osa Odigizuoa, defensive
Speaker 1: tackle out of UCLA, was the third pick of the draft,
Speaker 1: second pick of the day, and of course they do
Speaker 1: have another one coming up in just a couple of picks.
Speaker 1: This is the pick that the Cowboys got for trading
Speaker 1: back from ten to twelve to select Micah Parsons. With
Speaker 1: the eighty fourth pick in the NFL Draft, the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys on the clock and they select defensive in Jauncy
Speaker 1: Gholston out of Iowa Dane. I mean, this is a
Speaker 1: power rusher and he had a really, really good senior Bowl.
Speaker 1: He is a really good player. And listen, the testing
Speaker 1: numbers aren't great. He is not a big time athlete,
Speaker 1: but he's instinctive. He's tough, he's strong inside outside, he
Speaker 1: knows where the ball is going to be and he
Speaker 1: meets the ball carrier there. He arrives with thump. Big
Speaker 1: fan of Chauncey Golston. I think I actually mocked him
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys in the fourth round, so you know,
Speaker 1: he goes a little bit earlier than we thought, but
Speaker 1: no problem with drafting him here. He's an upgrade on
Speaker 1: this defensive line. Yeah, this guy. What's interesting about him
Speaker 1: is he's got the ability to be time, so he
Speaker 1: tends to come and go for him. There'll be some
Speaker 1: really good rushes and then others where he appears he
Speaker 1: gets distracted. And I thought he had a really good
Speaker 1: first step off the ball, but quite can't finish the
Speaker 1: rush when he needed to on some of those snaps.
Speaker 1: But you know, when he got tied up or gets chipped,
Speaker 1: you know, it throws him off a little bits. But
Speaker 1: some of his best pass rushes when it came off
Speaker 1: the edge and used in the twist game, I understand
Speaker 1: what Dane saw in the player when he could get
Speaker 1: a free rush to the quarterback. He does have a burst.
Speaker 1: He could get the guy to the ground deliver a
Speaker 1: blow when he gets in position. He'd be a hard
Speaker 1: guy to run the edge on too. That ball gets
Speaker 1: the outside. He is kind of stretching, stretching, stretching. I
Speaker 1: did say he has some DeMarcus lawrence to his game,
Speaker 1: and it comes to play in the run because he's
Speaker 1: not gonna let you get outside of him. But he
Speaker 1: plays off some blocks pretty well, extending on his guy
Speaker 1: and then shedding to make the play. So there's more
Speaker 1: to his game. But you know, maybe every team. I
Speaker 1: said this, whatever team drafts him will have to figure
Speaker 1: out how to make him more consistent as a player.
Speaker 1: I love him. Yeah, you were, you were the most
Speaker 1: excited about him. I think this is my favorite pick
Speaker 1: on Day two for this team. I just he's a
Speaker 1: really quality player. I mean I just think like there's
Speaker 1: some guys that you look at the traits and you
Speaker 1: look at the testing numbers, and this guy, it just
Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought he was a little more
Speaker 1: consistent than Brian did. But he's just he's just a
Speaker 1: good football player. I don't know. I he sold me
Speaker 1: pretty pretty quickly on the Iowa tape, and then I
Speaker 1: thought the Senior Bowl he kind of backed it up.
Speaker 1: By the way, Rodgers just went to Green Bay with
Speaker 1: the eighty fifth selection, and if they're gonna if they
Speaker 1: trade it up, I mean eventually they were finally gonna
Speaker 1: do it right, gonna help somebody out in Green Bay,
Speaker 1: finally try to make your you know, best quarterback ever.
Speaker 1: So he quit, he's not playing anymore. That's now. Let's
Speaker 1: go ahead and take a break. When we come back,
Speaker 1: we're gonna continue breaking down at Chauncey Golston, the pick
Speaker 1: out of Iowa will hear from him and just a
Speaker 1: little bit as we continue rolling along, you're listening to
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one NFL Draft on one of five
Speaker 1: three the Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com back you're
Speaker 1: on the internet side, So, Brian, do you like the pick?
Speaker 1: Yes or no? Thumbs up? Thumbs down here for Chauncy.
Speaker 1: That was the fourth round, and I understand where Dane's going.
Speaker 1: I just don't see a consistent player there. I do
Speaker 1: see a good run player, though, I see an occasional
Speaker 1: pass rusher, but I mean he's needed to take a
Speaker 1: better advantage of his first step. That's just the tape
Speaker 1: at I saw Jeff I liked. I thought, you know,
Speaker 1: I think he's not going to always win as a
Speaker 1: pass rusher, just because I don't think that he's a
Speaker 1: agile rushers limited. Yeah, like he's not going to turn
Speaker 1: the corner on you and maybe not like a quick
Speaker 1: inside out, but you know he is. He's a power
Speaker 1: player that I think is going to be a steady
Speaker 1: run player. Like he's an NFL ready, dude, he's not
Speaker 1: gonna make a Pro Bowl, right, I got He's not
Speaker 1: that type of high upside guy, right, He's not gonna
Speaker 1: be a double digit SAT guy, but I think that
Speaker 1: he could walk into a lot of NFL teams right
Speaker 1: now and be their third or fourth edge guy and
Speaker 1: you know, play snaps for you in NFL games and
Speaker 1: not hurt you. So for the Cowboys, I do think
Speaker 1: that they're not following necessarily the BPA thing anymore because
Speaker 1: now you start look. Now you start to look at
Speaker 1: what their draft looks like, and it's now a linebacker, corner,
Speaker 1: d tackle edge like They're they're spreading it out and
Speaker 1: try to put a lot of new faces on this defense.
Speaker 1: And I like going BPA as much as possible until
Speaker 1: it stops making sense. But the guys that they're picking
Speaker 1: that aren't my BPA. They are picking guys I like,
Speaker 1: but you're you're reading a lot of positive notes about them,
Speaker 1: and I like Gholston. I like Gholston more than I
Speaker 1: like Go DIGIZOOA. Here's the impression that I'm getting from
Speaker 1: what's happening here, which I mean it makes sense. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys have the offense to contend, and they're building a
Speaker 1: defense that cannot completely screw that up, and sometimes that
Speaker 1: means like not taking the best player available which I like.
Speaker 1: I don't have a big beef with any of these picks.
Speaker 1: There are other guys I would have taken, But it's
Speaker 1: almost like they're following a blueprint of like you know,
Speaker 1: we said it. You know, they have Tank and they
Speaker 1: have Randy, and there's not a lot else there. And
Speaker 1: I like the idea of drafting a ready made power
Speaker 1: guy who's going to come in and do dirty work
Speaker 1: more than I like the idea of um a guy
Speaker 1: Like this might sound crazy, but I would rather take
Speaker 1: this guy later than take a chance on OSA earlier.
Speaker 1: And like maybe he maybe he's amazing, maybe he's a bust,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And that's these are low
Speaker 1: risk picks. A lot of these. It's like maybe these
Speaker 1: guys are never stars, but they can come in, Oh
Speaker 1: DIGGI ZOOA can beef up two to three positions on
Speaker 1: your line. This guy can rotate in and do the
Speaker 1: dirty work, you know, Kelvin Joseph gives you a boundary corner.
Speaker 1: I just feel like they're trying to be They're trying
Speaker 1: to build a defense that can be middle of the
Speaker 1: pack or better, because that's probably all you need. It's
Speaker 1: honestly like they're drafting for to drafting away from the projections.
Speaker 1: They're just looking for straight floor for some of these guys.
Speaker 1: Because the floor I would agree with that all four
Speaker 1: of the picks they've made. The floor is very high.
Speaker 1: Now the ceiling may not be much higher. It feels
Speaker 1: to me like they're trying to build, like they're trying
Speaker 1: to draft guys that can just come in right now
Speaker 1: and may and I mean everybody guys like that. That
Speaker 1: pick Doward's Armstrong too three years ago. You know, you
Speaker 1: really get a trust the guys too. I mean, I
Speaker 1: know it's a new defensive staff and all that, but
Speaker 1: when you know you're telling me about guys that I'm
Speaker 1: telling you guys too that oh they played the run well,
Speaker 1: and oh he's got to work a little bit better
Speaker 1: on his past. He's not gonna be a Pro Bowl player.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be this or that. And I understand
Speaker 1: we're in the third round. I get it, but you
Speaker 1: know you drafted guys like Bradley and I last year
Speaker 1: who didn't even see the field. You've got you Doran's
Speaker 1: Armstrong will make one play every third game. You know,
Speaker 1: I think Golson's a lot better than a nine and Dorance,
Speaker 1: though in my opinion, I don't think there's I don't
Speaker 1: think there Bradley and I was was a PAC twelve
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year. Wasn't he last year? He wasn't.
Speaker 1: He wasn't the year. But he was like a sack
Speaker 1: leader or something. He was a good college player. But
Speaker 1: I don't I mean we didn't. We didn't greet him
Speaker 1: as a top one hundred player, right. No, No, I
Speaker 1: mean it's not like we expected him to be this uh,
Speaker 1: this all world player. I mean, I'm surprised he didn't
Speaker 1: make more of an impact as a rookie. But I said,
Speaker 1: this guy is very similar. You guys are we're all
Speaker 1: I guess we're all okay with us the tank Lawrence
Speaker 1: playing the run, right, is that we're we're staying here.
Speaker 1: We're all we're okay with the guy. Just we're just
Speaker 1: gonna play the run with this guy. Thanks, good against
Speaker 1: the run? Where are you talking about? No? But but
Speaker 1: does this guy does this guy rush? Can this guy
Speaker 1: rush the passer well enough for you to to make
Speaker 1: a difference? Golston? Yeah? Probably not, that's not Yeah. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say that he's gonna give you he's not gonna
Speaker 1: give you nine to twelve sacks in a year. No,
Speaker 1: that's not his straight. I'll wait till we come back
Speaker 1: to radio. But that's kind of my point. Brian. Well,
Speaker 1: did you guys feel like there are better players on
Speaker 1: that board than this kid? Yes? Yes, okay, yeah, I
Speaker 1: just want to make sure that thank you. The NFL
Speaker 1: Draft rolls on here all one oh five three the
Speaker 1: fan in Dallas Cowboys dot Com, Kyle Yeoman's Jeff Cavital,
Speaker 1: Brian brought us Dame Brugler. We've got David Hellman here
Speaker 1: as well, live from inside the Star in Frisco. Wyant
Speaker 1: Davis and the guard from Ohio State goes to Minnesota
Speaker 1: here at eighty six. So we have seen a couple
Speaker 1: of good players go off the board ever since. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys selected edge rusher Chauncey Golston out of Iowa, who,
Speaker 1: by the way, we have secret audio from Let's hear
Speaker 1: from Chauncey Golston in the moment he was drafted by
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Hey, Chauncey. Jerry Jones with the Cowboys. Hey,
Speaker 1: what I'm calling you about is we just turned in
Speaker 1: your card. We're gonna we're gonna You're gonna be a
Speaker 1: Dallas cowboy. A cowboy I love. That would be great,
Speaker 1: that'd be great. Well, I'll tell you I'm proud for you. Uh's.
Speaker 1: It's a great place to be. You should you should
Speaker 1: be proud. You've worked hard. But I know your family's
Speaker 1: gonna be proud of you. But we're excited that you're
Speaker 1: gonna be a Dallas cowboy. That's the bottom line. Thank you,
Speaker 1: appreciate the car. Okay, wait, hey, don't leave me, Hey,
Speaker 1: don't leave me. Are you gone? Hey? Okay, well, don't
Speaker 1: be gone. Don't be gone. But here's here's your head coach,
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy. Okay, he wants to talk to you. Welcome
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. Thank you, thank you, Chauncey. Congratulations, thank you. Hey,
Speaker 1: hey to appreciate the car. Oh you bet hey? Where
Speaker 1: are you right now? I'm how many Detroit right now? Okay? Awesome,
Speaker 1: way and enjoyed the special moment with your family and friends.
Speaker 1: And I can't tell you how excited you we are
Speaker 1: to make you part of this, this this great organization.
Speaker 1: This is a phenomenal opportunity for for you and for
Speaker 1: what's in front of you. I'm more than I'm more
Speaker 1: than all right, man. Okay. So that is the secret
Speaker 1: audio from Chauncey Golston as he was selected by the
Speaker 1: Cowboys eighty fourth overall. By the way, the next Cowboys picked.
Speaker 1: We are about twelve selections away as they are at
Speaker 1: ninety nine to conclude the day, and they are six
Speaker 1: picks from the end of to excuse me today's drafting.
Speaker 1: So go ahead and take a BPA swing. You know,
Speaker 1: it's kind of let's take it's a BPA swing. Let
Speaker 1: Ronnie Perkins be around, and then to Brian's point, we'll
Speaker 1: go try to find a guy that's a pass rush. Finally,
Speaker 1: go on offense. I think so offensive line. Can I
Speaker 1: take an early gas here just to see, just from
Speaker 1: rumblings i've heard Anthony Schwartz wide receiver out of Auburn.
Speaker 1: I have heard as well, Yeah, I'd rather pick a
Speaker 1: better player, but I get it. I mean, watch it happen.
Speaker 1: That's just my guest. He see, that's one of those
Speaker 1: picks where I wouldn't be thrilled. That's a good pick
Speaker 1: by the Steelers. That's an athlete. Very surprised. Quinn Miners
Speaker 1: still on the board, right yep, he sure. That's very
Speaker 1: very SROs. That would be that would be pretty ironic
Speaker 1: if you know, we're talking about the Cowboys making these
Speaker 1: high floor picks, ready made guys, and then cap it
Speaker 1: off with the fastest player in the draft who you
Speaker 1: don't have a role for right now. Special teams. Maybe
Speaker 1: I would love if what they did was they got
Speaker 1: to ninety nine and if some of these guys are
Speaker 1: still very available, like Baron Browning, Ronnie Perkins, like give
Speaker 1: me a guy that's just like, go get the quarterback.
Speaker 1: So we do have Chauncey Golston on the line edge
Speaker 1: rusher out of Iowa knew was Dallas Cowboy. Chauncey, First off, congratulations,
Speaker 1: just kind of explain what this moment is like for you.
Speaker 1: This is, oh my god, life changing moment right here.
Speaker 1: I don't even know how to It's kind of hard
Speaker 1: to put into words. Really really really just grateful, really grateful. Man. Hey,
Speaker 1: congrats Chauncey. We heard the secret audio of you talking
Speaker 1: to Jerry Jones and Mike McCarthy. It sounded like you
Speaker 1: almost hung up on Jerry. Were you just like trying
Speaker 1: to go, you know, party with your family. No, it
Speaker 1: wasn't that I was about to hang up. It was
Speaker 1: just like I was, I was lost the words. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I trained down there in Dallas, like for my my
Speaker 1: prodec trying and like I've seen a lot of like
Speaker 1: uh commercials with Jerry Jones on it, and just to
Speaker 1: like hear him on the phone, I was, I was
Speaker 1: lost the words. So I wasn't about to hang up.
Speaker 1: I just didn't know what to say. Honestly, Hey, Chuncy,
Speaker 1: we saw you down there at the Senior Bowl and
Speaker 1: getting some opportunities. Can you talk about that experience for
Speaker 1: you and how it helped you. You know, you're getting
Speaker 1: in front of those eyes, the scouts, the coaches, gems
Speaker 1: and stuff like. Talk about your Senior Bowl experience and
Speaker 1: how it helps you there. Okay, So like I'm this
Speaker 1: is high. Went so our very first day like a
Speaker 1: position meetings. I saw that there was like nine defensive
Speaker 1: ends and two defensive tackles, and I'm like, these are
Speaker 1: all really good players. I could fight for a few
Speaker 1: reps at in or I can get maximal exposure at
Speaker 1: defensive tackles. So you know, I went in there. So
Speaker 1: my d line h coach at Iowa coach Calvin Bell
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna be uh taking a lot of reps
Speaker 1: at defense to talk with the get in front of
Speaker 1: as many coaches as I possibly could, and well, like
Speaker 1: I guess to pay it off right now. So what
Speaker 1: was your what was your contact like with the Cowboys?
Speaker 1: Did you know that this this possibility was out there?
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't know, honestly, and I would. I
Speaker 1: was just ready to give my off to whatever team
Speaker 1: drafting me. Where do you think your role is gonna
Speaker 1: be in this defense here? If you had to guess,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've had a chance to talk
Speaker 1: with your defensive coordinator yet, but just in your thought
Speaker 1: process and what you know about the Cowboys, where do
Speaker 1: you think you'll fit in? UM, I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: for I'm trying to provide wherever I can, honestly, or
Speaker 1: wherever I can, no matter inside, outside, wherever, wherever they
Speaker 1: need me, I'm there for it. But damn it, Chauncey,
Speaker 1: you sound like a perfect teammate and I'm excited to congratulations.
Speaker 1: Hey Chauncey, really just just at a UM kind of
Speaker 1: a stabbing that there? Did you go? You went to
Speaker 1: cast Tech in Detroit. Right. No, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I got that wrong. I'm so sorry. No, but Jordan,
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis. That's why. That's actually why I brought it up.
Speaker 1: I knew Jordan went to cass I was wondering if
Speaker 1: you know him? Yeah, nah, nah, he went, he went
Speaker 1: to the cast I went to use English. Is there
Speaker 1: a rivalry between those two? Yeah, yeah, they used to
Speaker 1: be used to be something like that, so high school stuff.
Speaker 1: Do you know Jordan at all? I guess that's the
Speaker 1: main reason I asked. I'm just wondering if we don't
Speaker 1: have we don't have a personal relationship, but I know
Speaker 1: of him. You know, I try to keep up with
Speaker 1: any guy that makes it out of the city. Absolutely well,
Speaker 1: I'm I have a feeling you'll be meeting him before
Speaker 1: too long. So welcome to board man. Glad to have you,
Speaker 1: but you appreciate you taking some time with us. Chauncey,
Speaker 1: go celebrate, congratulations. We look forward to seeing you're here
Speaker 1: in Frisco. Thank you. There, he goes johncy Goldston new
Speaker 1: with Dallas cowboy ed Drusher from Iowa. I like that, Jeff,
Speaker 1: I agree, I kind of felt the same way, got
Speaker 1: that same feeling. He just seems like a guy you
Speaker 1: would like being around. I mean, that would seem like
Speaker 1: a guy that would get the most out of the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, who walks in and immediately knows what it's about.
Speaker 1: Where it's like, how can I get maximum exposure? How
Speaker 1: can I get the most reps? Coaches can I'll play
Speaker 1: over there? You want to play over there? I don't
Speaker 1: know everything about talking to him. That makes me sound
Speaker 1: like you want fifty three of them. And you know,
Speaker 1: if you can find a bunch of dudes that are
Speaker 1: super talented and they're not gonna be Chauncey Gholston's, that's
Speaker 1: all right. We'll take some of those two. But the
Speaker 1: more dudes that think like that, I think, the better
Speaker 1: off you are. I find me a coach that doesn't
Speaker 1: like him. You talk to Kirk Franz loves him. He
Speaker 1: called him an absolute delight exact quote from his IOWA coach. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just an easy player to like because
Speaker 1: of the football character. He's a team captain. He's just
Speaker 1: gonna come in and do what has asked of him
Speaker 1: and exceed expectations. So really just a quality football player
Speaker 1: that I think the Cowboys could be very excited about
Speaker 1: on that defensive line. By the way, the Texans just
Speaker 1: traded into pick number eighty nine, as we are now
Speaker 1: ten selections away from the Cowboys and what would be
Speaker 1: their final pick of the night. Dane, you talked about
Speaker 1: it earlier whenever the Cowboys were thinking about trading up, Brian,
Speaker 1: I think you mentioned it as well. But the Cowboys
Speaker 1: were looking at these three third round picks and we're saying, hey,
Speaker 1: there's an opportunity here to maybe move up, maybe make
Speaker 1: less than four picks today. However, it looks like they're
Speaker 1: gonna make all all three selections here in this third round.
Speaker 1: It is, and you know that's not a bad thing,
Speaker 1: you know, going with the quantity this team could use it,
Speaker 1: especially on the defensive side of the ball. I just
Speaker 1: I'm very interested to see where they go with this
Speaker 1: final pick. Are they going to go on the offensive line?
Speaker 1: Could they go receiver, could they go safety? You know,
Speaker 1: where are they going to go with this final third
Speaker 1: round pick. It's going to be an interesting decision. They
Speaker 1: did what they wanted for these first two and that's fine.
Speaker 1: Like I don't really have a big problem with it,
Speaker 1: but give me give me a guy, give me Mike,
Speaker 1: give me my guy. Well, if I could drought up
Speaker 1: the way I want to, Tom Wallace would be fun.
Speaker 1: If he's still hang around, Elijah Molden would make me
Speaker 1: super happy. Okay, let's stick along that same line of conversation.
Speaker 1: But there are a lot of guys here that could
Speaker 1: make an immediate impact in or higher on our boards. Dane,
Speaker 1: what are your top guys on your big board right now?
Speaker 1: Let me pull this up here. It's our Darius Washington,
Speaker 1: is it not? So? Come on? Guys available here? Elijah Molden,
Speaker 1: Quinn Miners, if you ought to melofon Wu, what's happening
Speaker 1: with him? Why is he still available? Um? Nico Collins
Speaker 1: wide receiver Michigan was the pick to Houston. Yeah, Saint Brown.
Speaker 1: Kenneth Gainwell put a two pilo to usc those to
Speaker 1: be the top five available. I don't think melofon Wu
Speaker 1: should still be available. But again, sometimes you look at
Speaker 1: a guy and it's like that height plus weight, like
Speaker 1: the transitions aren't pert? Really doesn't? That's sarily. Look, you
Speaker 1: would expect most corners to be twenty pounds lighter than
Speaker 1: he is playing the position that he plays. So teams
Speaker 1: may just be struggling with that a little bit. But
Speaker 1: I think he should have be gone by now. I agree,
Speaker 1: just maybe another case of he's a little bit of
Speaker 1: an outlier. Brian, Well, we might need to find out
Speaker 1: from the trainers and doctors around the league if something's
Speaker 1: physically wrong with him. Those you know, that's what we
Speaker 1: learned about Coral Mora, you know, if this kid might
Speaker 1: have something, we're dealing with. My guys, the best guys
Speaker 1: I got left. I got Molden Cox Melophon or the
Speaker 1: three the top of my top three guys. And then
Speaker 1: I got Gainwell, the the kid from Memphis. Those turn
Speaker 1: them out, yeah, and I have him like as a
Speaker 1: third round guy. And and then our USC defensive tackle.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that Dane mentioned is too that Jordan the
Speaker 1: tied end from Miami hasn't gone yet either, as opposed
Speaker 1: to that's a that's a guy that's a down the
Speaker 1: field player. So we'll see. That's the great thing about it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I again, it's kind of holding my board.
Speaker 1: It's it's holding how I thought it might hold. But
Speaker 1: there's still some guys that man that I have a
Speaker 1: little bit higher than maybe that some of these teams do,
Speaker 1: and I'm you know, I'm wondering why they're still there.
Speaker 1: Are Darius Washington, Elijah Molden, Marvin Wilson, Baron Browning, upon Wu.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about a couple more of those players
Speaker 1: after we come back from our final break. We're heading
Speaker 1: into our number four of our coverage here on one
Speaker 1: O five three The Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com.
Speaker 1: Staying on the Internet side of things, I keep hearing
Speaker 1: Marvin Wilson, and I know Dane wasn't super high on them. Brian, Jeff,
Speaker 1: you guys were high. Dave, I don't know really know
Speaker 1: where you stand in terms of Marvin Wilson. I'm just
Speaker 1: Jeff keeps saying, like watching him from two years ago,
Speaker 1: I'm like two years as an eternity in football. Long,
Speaker 1: here's the crap out of me. Edge rusher Patrick Jones
Speaker 1: to my to Minnesota. I know he changed schemes. I
Speaker 1: just well, I just I guess what throws me off
Speaker 1: is like Penasol at nineteen years old was button college football,
Speaker 1: and then he sat down for a year and everybody
Speaker 1: was like top ten pick and Marvin Wilson stepped in
Speaker 1: as a freshman dominated college football, did it again as
Speaker 1: a sophomore, and then as a junior was okay, And
Speaker 1: the NFL is like, yeah, huh, life's not fair, man.
Speaker 1: They should have opted out. That's what he should have done.
Speaker 1: You might be right, you might be instead of playing
Speaker 1: end on a three man line with a Tormaniscus, maybe
Speaker 1: you should have shut it down and get picked two rounds.
Speaker 1: Hire he selfish pays off sometimes. Wait wait, people who
Speaker 1: are how guys who opted out aren't selfish? I want
Speaker 1: to be clear about that. I'm just joking. Dane. How
Speaker 1: if he opted out, where would he be though? Second round? Dane? Uh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I grated him as kind of a yeah
Speaker 1: day two player, second third round. Is there off the
Speaker 1: field stuff like is there coaching questions? Because I don't
Speaker 1: understand how a defensive tackle who in the NFL role
Speaker 1: he's gonna have for two years in a row, is
Speaker 1: and is really good in college football and then just
Speaker 1: disappears off the map. Yeah. I think some of the
Speaker 1: coaches were not happy with how uh you know, he
Speaker 1: worked back from some of the injuries that he had,
Speaker 1: but nothing that would I think would take him off
Speaker 1: boards at least that that I that I know of,
Speaker 1: got the Browns making pick Miles Garrett. What yep, I'm like,
Speaker 1: he's not eligible. That's a bad pick. Pick another one.
Speaker 1: He's already different named Miles Garrett. Like he looks like
Speaker 1: he's wearing padding. Yeah, but he's definitely sleeves. I'm surprised
Speaker 1: that Patrick Jones went before Richard Weaver. Yeah, me too,
Speaker 1: I'm the same team. Yep. I'm having a lot lot though. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: draft him. I don't care. I don't care that you
Speaker 1: just drafted two linemen. It's Dave's guy versus Jeff's guy.
Speaker 1: It's Tommy toegy I versus our Darius Washington. That's okay.
Speaker 1: Typically that's not fair when we do this, like when
Speaker 1: we fixate on a guy, they're still there two hours
Speaker 1: into tomorrow. So Anthony Schwartz my pick for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: at Oh, no, bad receiver that runs fast. I hate
Speaker 1: that he's gone. Oh I'm so sad that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: can't make that pick anymore awful people. So do I
Speaker 1: get another guess? Yeah, he can't. You do guesses, Miner
Speaker 1: just hopes and you and if you guys know my
Speaker 1: track record, the guy that I want the Cowboys picking
Speaker 1: the sixth, So get ready to mark. I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: Marvin Wilson, That's why I said what I said, because
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods and Anthony Brown set the standard. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: picked six rounders for the Cowboys, calling for him three
Speaker 1: rounds early. Anthony Schwartz, though, Dane, tell me about I
Speaker 1: mean four two five forty four two five twenty yards shuttle.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean he's light, he's small, but my goodness,
Speaker 1: is a special, special speed and he's one of the
Speaker 1: fastest human beings in this country's flat out. Um. I
Speaker 1: think that you just worry about him as a football player.
Speaker 1: I mean he had more rushing touchdowns in college than
Speaker 1: receiving touchdowns as a wide receiver. Not ideal for a
Speaker 1: wide receiver. So you know, there's a lot to like it,
Speaker 1: But you know how much of that is the Auburn offense.
Speaker 1: How much of that is just the lack of development.
Speaker 1: He is a speedy player who needs to develop as
Speaker 1: a wide receiver, and I am eager to see him
Speaker 1: outside of that Auburn offense just to see how he
Speaker 1: can develop. And this is a pick where the Browns
Speaker 1: don't need him to be an impact performer right now,
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham, Jarvis Landry, Richard Higgins, Donovan, People's Jones. They've
Speaker 1: got their receiver set for this year, but the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two wide receiver depth chart, Beckham might not be
Speaker 1: on it, Jarvis Landry might not be on it. This
Speaker 1: is a pick for the twenty twenty two season for
Speaker 1: the Browns, which is just kind of crazy that they're
Speaker 1: in this position where they can do that. They got
Speaker 1: a good roster include they do, and then they can
Speaker 1: have that luxury yeah, where they're they're planning forward. So
Speaker 1: I don't even want to. I guess I can say
Speaker 1: this since it comes from our boss, But I just
Speaker 1: got a text that Nick Eatman said sources told him
Speaker 1: that they were going to select Anthony Schwartz at ninety nine.
Speaker 1: He absolutely was in consideration. Dang it, I was gonna
Speaker 1: be right. That would have been fun. So Anthony Schwartz
Speaker 1: to land and Monty Rice to Tennessee brings us up
Speaker 1: to speed to number ninety three. As we are back
Speaker 1: on the radio side of things, into our number four
Speaker 1: past the ten o'clock hour Central time here on one
Speaker 1: oh five three, The Fan of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: Jeff cavitall the great Brian brought us the great Dame Brugler,
Speaker 1: Mister David Helmett, I'm Kyle Yeoman's thank you, thank you
Speaker 1: for leaving great off of that. I don't wow. Well,
Speaker 1: if I was, I would have to change it up.
Speaker 1: I would have to say great around the table. All
Speaker 1: of you guys are great. I didn't know. I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to get invited. I'm definitely not great. It's fine,
Speaker 1: that's okay, Hey, that's I might be very wrong on him.
Speaker 1: We'll say, who's that? Malcolm Keuts the Buffalo. Buffalo soon
Speaker 1: already forgot who was I'm sorry. It was like trying
Speaker 1: to find Monty Rice here. Yeah, money Rice out of Georgia.
Speaker 1: What did you guys guys think about him? He was
Speaker 1: a little bit further down the list of line backers,
Speaker 1: but still a good one. I'll tell you what. One
Speaker 1: of the most entertaining plays of the college football season.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember which Burner wide receiver I was
Speaker 1: watching Monty Rice try to cover all the way down
Speaker 1: the field on a post route. I think it was Waddle.
Speaker 1: It was either Waddle or Smith against Alaman. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I was like, what happened on our Georgia defense? That
Speaker 1: this is Monty Rice's job. I mean he was running
Speaker 1: though he was moving. Wow, I did not realize he
Speaker 1: was over six foot three. Is that an accurate height, Dane?
Speaker 1: I think so? Yeah? Okay, um okay, I thought he
Speaker 1: was shorter than that. Apologies, but I thought he was No,
Speaker 1: you are right, Yeah, I thought six three. Okay, so
Speaker 1: that type. I'm like, holy cow, he's a lot taller
Speaker 1: than the guy I thought I scouted. I was watching
Speaker 1: the wrong player, but I just I thought maybe fourth
Speaker 1: round and we're getting real close to the fourth round
Speaker 1: where there wasn't a lot about his game that really
Speaker 1: jumped out at me. But he was solid And Dane,
Speaker 1: is there anything money Rice to the jumps off the
Speaker 1: tape to you? He could get through trash. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: a freight train. Yeah he's gonna, he's gonna. There's there's
Speaker 1: a couple of times where he got bounced around a
Speaker 1: little bit, but he could get to the trash. And yeah,
Speaker 1: he's kind of one those he's really thick. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a stout body type in that. But they play
Speaker 1: in that rotating system. They got a lot of great
Speaker 1: players there at Georgia, so he just you know, he
Speaker 1: kind of comes and he comes out and but I
Speaker 1: was surprised he wasn't in on more tackles, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he has ability, but you just
Speaker 1: didn't always see him making every single tackle. I know
Speaker 1: we're watching highlights right now of him doing that, but
Speaker 1: I was, I was. I really respected his toughness, but
Speaker 1: I kind of thought there was more things that they
Speaker 1: could have probably done to him. But I just didn't
Speaker 1: see the burst wide as I did straight ahead when
Speaker 1: he wanted to go straight ahead. There was a burst
Speaker 1: when he had to get to the outside. Though. It's
Speaker 1: it was a little bit of an iffy thing for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah he's uh coverage nah, but as a downhill player,
Speaker 1: as a banger, that that mentality, that's what he brings.
Speaker 1: So a little surprise he went off the board top
Speaker 1: one hundred. But he's a solid player. So what do
Speaker 1: you think here for the Cowboys at ninety nine, I mean,
Speaker 1: Bill's Ravens, Bucks, Patriots, Charger Saints, Cowboys, Saint Brown. He's
Speaker 1: saying they're making bad pick Saint Brown. He's taking they're
Speaker 1: making bad big Obviously, I don't obviously at the end
Speaker 1: of the day. Uh my Stephen gen ptation there. Uh
Speaker 1: you know, I'm looking at my third round guys, and
Speaker 1: nobody wants to take him in the third round. So
Speaker 1: I mean, I you'll find out on your way home
Speaker 1: some of these guys. I wonder about, guys like Brown,
Speaker 1: Browning and Cox and Perkins and Gaywell and Carter I mean,
Speaker 1: and Trey Smith that Jordan I'm what Tyler Wallace, I'm
Speaker 1: wondering about these guys, I really really am so I
Speaker 1: wonder about Elijah Molden. The most said about him too, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jamara Johnson Rochelle from Quinn Miners, Central Arkansas. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he's in this late third round, early fourth
Speaker 1: rowne range. Sure. I like him a lot, che the guy,
Speaker 1: I guess. The only guys that I'm like, really perplexed
Speaker 1: about and wondering are we going to hear something medical?
Speaker 1: Are we just gonna hear their names soon? Are Elijah
Speaker 1: Molden if you had to, Melafon Wu and Ronnie Perkins,
Speaker 1: the Oklahoma pass rusht Miners in there too. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know D three, but he was so dominant the
Speaker 1: senior blow. I just I thought he'd be off the
Speaker 1: board by now. He was so impressive at the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 1: I'm a little surprised by Ji brol Cox as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's a little surprising. That is get ready to
Speaker 1: bills or him here. And Browning isn't picked either, isn't that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I guess that is a Browning. He's a physical freak.
Speaker 1: But just the Spencer Brown tackle out of Iowa or
Speaker 1: Northern Ioway. Excuse me for buffalo here another tackle? Didn't
Speaker 1: they take one of the first? Maybe not? No, they
Speaker 1: did edge. Yeah, and Spencer Brown's interesting because he's so raw.
Speaker 1: But you think of where he could be in two
Speaker 1: to three years, and it's really a two to three
Speaker 1: year pick. He's not going to help you much this season. Uh,
Speaker 1: tight end, defensive lineman eight man football in high school.
Speaker 1: Played pretty well at right tackle. But he's still learning
Speaker 1: his frame, still understanding, you know, how to sink, how
Speaker 1: to play with an anchor, the biomechanics of his body type.
Speaker 1: Still still trying to figure that out. So he needs
Speaker 1: a lot of coaching before he's ready for NFL snaps.
Speaker 1: But you know here in the third round, you know
Speaker 1: there's it's an upside pick. It's this late in the third,
Speaker 1: especially six to five and six six. I feel like
Speaker 1: her heights. He'll see a lot of offensive tackle. How
Speaker 1: often do you see six eight? Not often? All right? Well,
Speaker 1: along with those testing covers two four nine two in
Speaker 1: the forty. Yeah, it's not just six eight, Jeff, he's
Speaker 1: six eight and a half. Well, six eight in a quarters,
Speaker 1: I'm going by senior bowl. Oh okay, sorry, they're rulers
Speaker 1: are broken, are they? Yeah? They're using yard sticks and
Speaker 1: then they just flip it over and then flip it over.
Speaker 1: And it's not exactly been putting their heels to get
Speaker 1: the one next to the other. Been that way in
Speaker 1: more times than I want to count. It's not whoever's
Speaker 1: measuring the arms missed that up a bunch this summer spraying.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, that would be great if it's just at
Speaker 1: a bounce house. No, Hey, there was a tailgating canopy,
Speaker 1: you know the kind that you put out guys like
Speaker 1: the grounds crew, guys sitting up here like they're waiting
Speaker 1: to go into a game. We know the little over there,
Speaker 1: you know the little tents that they that you get
Speaker 1: for like tailgating in the parking lot. Yeah, there was
Speaker 1: one in the end zone. If there's one of those
Speaker 1: in the end zone, I don't I'm not interested. It's
Speaker 1: right there, it's right there, and they're going, I'm not interesting.
Speaker 1: This is not normally when we lose it on the
Speaker 1: draft broadcast, but I think Brian's lost it and it's
Speaker 1: getting contagious, so we're gonna have it. Lost it. I'm
Speaker 1: just fast. It's a good player. Come on, he's he's
Speaker 1: a fine player. He sounds like what about DIGGI zoo though.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that was the one that we liked
Speaker 1: the most. Everybody, Okay, there was there was a right now.
Speaker 1: I have taken it personally because I see, you guys
Speaker 1: know that there are better players on that board right now,
Speaker 1: right when he was taken. Yeah, we all do, okay.
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure that I'm not the
Speaker 1: only fool in it. That was the point I was
Speaker 1: trying to make when we were on the internet and
Speaker 1: not just the radio. Is it. It seems like they're
Speaker 1: going for high floor guys so that they can contribute
Speaker 1: as quickly as possible, which I'm not saying that's the
Speaker 1: right thing to do, but that's what they're doing, and
Speaker 1: is it the wrong thing to do? Made it? I
Speaker 1: think it. I don't know. It depends yeah, and you
Speaker 1: absolutely are and I don't think there's a way to
Speaker 1: answer it. But the point is the offense is going
Speaker 1: to carry this thing to where you want to go,
Speaker 1: and they're just it seems like they're just trying to
Speaker 1: fill the defense with guys that can play right now.
Speaker 1: And Stephen Jones alluded to that the other day. He
Speaker 1: was like, we need cheap players who can play, like
Speaker 1: we signed all of our big contract. That doesn't mean
Speaker 1: you can't necessarily draft good players. I'm aware that's and
Speaker 1: that's what makes an interesting to say that to Osa
Speaker 1: and Gholston's face. I'm just saying I would be happy, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I hope they turn in to be really good player.
Speaker 1: It is, I mean, and that's that's part of the draft,
Speaker 1: is ceiling versus floor. Like I would have absolutely all day,
Speaker 1: every day, taken Oklahoma's rusher Ronnie Perkins over Gholston or
Speaker 1: a diggi Zuowa, because I think you've got better tools
Speaker 1: and traits there for a pass rusher. But then he
Speaker 1: as an undersized edge guy, didn't test as a great athlete,
Speaker 1: and so it's like you go back and forth on
Speaker 1: all these different things and just figure out which one
Speaker 1: to pick. I'm glad that guys that weren't at the
Speaker 1: top of my board that they picked were players I like,
Speaker 1: because that's fair. At least they have positive notes and
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, that's that's that's a player. They gave
Speaker 1: you a Cavanaugh guy with Kelvin Joseph. Okay, yeah, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna give me another one. We're gonna get Marvin
Speaker 1: or or Darius. At one point prior tomorrow they made
Speaker 1: that Yeah, yeah, giant. Yeah. This guy's a maller. I mean,
Speaker 1: he was a lot. He was actually kind of fun
Speaker 1: to watch, just beat people up going to Baltimore. By
Speaker 1: the of course he's going to Baltimore. It's one of
Speaker 1: those guys. Look at it's Kansas City next. Who's the
Speaker 1: next best player on the board. Let's take care cities
Speaker 1: a little bit further down. Okay, should we take an
Speaker 1: early break here to beat the Cowboys pick at ninety nine.
Speaker 1: It's probably a good idea. We gotta wait till sixteen
Speaker 1: to take it. Yeah, let's ahead and take a break.
Speaker 1: Stepping aside you're listening to the twenty twenty one NFL
Speaker 1: Draft on one of five three the Fan in Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com. So the Buccaneers now on the clock
Speaker 1: at ninety five after the Ravens took Being Cleveland out
Speaker 1: of Georgia. Brian, you really like Being Cleveland Dane? How
Speaker 1: do you feel about it? I do like him. I
Speaker 1: mean he has such a uh, you know, impressive body type.
Speaker 1: Just how I mean, he's three large, three hundred forty
Speaker 1: pounds and he's not overweight at all like that, just
Speaker 1: really really impressive. They call him Big Country for a reason.
Speaker 1: I think he's a guard only. I don't think he
Speaker 1: gives you much versatility there. And you know, I think
Speaker 1: there's some there have been some, you know, questions about
Speaker 1: does he love fishing more in football that type of thing.
Speaker 1: Here we go, there we go. But besides that, I mean,
Speaker 1: he is a he's a really quality player who you know,
Speaker 1: you look at the Ravens in their offensive line, they
Speaker 1: could use some help at left guard, and I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna give it to him, all right, I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're asking him. And I love it in Baltimore
Speaker 1: because in Baltimore it's like pass, protect, and tee off
Speaker 1: in the run game, right, Like that works for him
Speaker 1: if you're not asking him to do a lot of
Speaker 1: pull in and things that are gonna require athleticism. You're
Speaker 1: just like, hey, big country, go be a big country
Speaker 1: that works. Hulk, go smash so incept when we don't
Speaker 1: want to smash. Try to keep it under control with
Speaker 1: your emotions, Hulk. Robert Hanzi out of Notre Dame. The
Speaker 1: offense of tackle goes to Tampa Bay Dane. I want
Speaker 1: a big board check here with the Cowboys coming up.
Speaker 1: No best player available hasn't been the pick so far,
Speaker 1: but they're four selections away done. I'm gonna I hate oh,
Speaker 1: I hate to say this for it, I kind of
Speaker 1: agree with Brian just in the sense of, like, I'm
Speaker 1: not as mad about it as Brian is, but I
Speaker 1: feel completely lost, Like I don't know what to expect.
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're gonna do. We gotta mean
Speaker 1: they're doing whatever the hell they want to do. We
Speaker 1: still have some offensive linemen out here that could be
Speaker 1: quality players. James Hudson, de'ante Smith. Uh, those are certainly
Speaker 1: possibilities there. It's okay, let's look at my top ten available,
Speaker 1: Elijah Molden. Something's wrong there, either that or they don't
Speaker 1: want a short guy. Quinn Miners. Yeah, but the whole
Speaker 1: league doesn't want a short guy. I guess that's the case.
Speaker 1: I maybe there's something medical there. We'll figure that out
Speaker 1: if you ought to. Melofon wu A Mon Ross, Saint Brown,
Speaker 1: Kenneth Gainwell, Marlon tweet bloplu. I didn't say that right
Speaker 1: at all. Dante Brown, Uh, Brevin Jordan, Ronnie Perkins, Bill Cox.
Speaker 1: Those are my ten best available at this point. I'd
Speaker 1: pretty safe to say they're not going Perkins just with
Speaker 1: you know. I mean maybe they could and load up
Speaker 1: on defensive line, but I doubt it. Uh, just keep
Speaker 1: coming back the offensive line, you know, get better, add depth.
Speaker 1: That's what you do when you have three third round picks, right,
Speaker 1: Hudson Smith, I like, I like Tray Smith more, Jayleen Moore,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean I don't know about the
Speaker 1: risk you guys. I watched those guys play, some guys
Speaker 1: play offensive tackle last year. I'm like, what, Okay, who Cowboys? Cowboys? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like who, what? Right? What are we doing there?
Speaker 1: And that's exactly why you you know, draft and develop.
Speaker 1: You add depth pieces that you can at least count
Speaker 1: on in the case that you do need him out there.
Speaker 1: What's going on with a monra of Saint Brown? If
Speaker 1: we're gonna look at a wide receiver here, he's the
Speaker 1: top one on my board. But yeah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: I didn't even look at Tallus. The knee. I think
Speaker 1: that's the issue. There, a nagging knee issue. I think
Speaker 1: you're in the range for Saint Brown. I think watching
Speaker 1: him this past year playing outside, I think that's actually
Speaker 1: kind of discouraging maybe to some NFL teams. But when
Speaker 1: you watch him play the slot, you go, yep, that's
Speaker 1: where he goes. So if Saint Brown is good healthwise,
Speaker 1: I would imagine he won't be too far away. He's
Speaker 1: kind of the Chauncey Golston on offense. If there's nothing
Speaker 1: special about him, he just kind of does his job
Speaker 1: and it's pretty solid. Entering the final couple picks of
Speaker 1: Day two of the twenty twenty one NFL Draft, on
Speaker 1: one of five three, the fan of Dallas Cowboys dot Com,
Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman's Jeff Kavan O'Brien brought us we've got Dan
Speaker 1: Brugler and David Hellman with you. Glad you're with us,
Speaker 1: and the Patriots are on the at the moment. Following
Speaker 1: the Patriots, it'll go Chargers Saints Cowboys, as the Cowboys
Speaker 1: will make their fifth selection of the NFL Draft. Will
Speaker 1: run down what they've got already Michael Parsons, linebacker out
Speaker 1: of Penn State, Kelvin Joseph the corner out of Kentucky,
Speaker 1: followed by osa Odigi Zuwa defensive tackle from UCLA, and
Speaker 1: Chauncey Gholston edge from Iowa. Jeff biggest need for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys heading into this pick is goie. I like what
Speaker 1: everybody's saying about the offensive line, but I just want
Speaker 1: to guard or a tackle. Well, I wonder how the
Speaker 1: staff feels about those guys like Terrence Steele and Brandon Knight.
Speaker 1: And you brought in a swing tackle from Washington, So
Speaker 1: I actually think you can survive if you don't do
Speaker 1: anything on the offensive line if it's not the best
Speaker 1: player available. So it makes sense to pick one. But
Speaker 1: you've already gonna have one of the Connors as a
Speaker 1: backup guard, and you do have Steel Night. And give
Speaker 1: me the name of the swing tackle that they signed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like you got guys. I know it was really ugly
Speaker 1: last year when you lost everybody. So I just I
Speaker 1: wonder did they view that as a spot where you
Speaker 1: would where you don't believe that Steel or Knight has
Speaker 1: developed or is developing the way that you want, and
Speaker 1: you do want to go that direction. I don't think
Speaker 1: they need a guard when you've got Zack Martin, one
Speaker 1: of the Connors starting, and one of the Connors backing up.
Speaker 1: Although Mike mc Mike McCarthy said that he thought that
Speaker 1: they would draft a lineman during this draft, and I
Speaker 1: mean the question was about interior line, so that obviously
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean they will, but something to consider. Patriots
Speaker 1: are making their selection at the moment. New England, of course,
Speaker 1: with a couple of Alabama products early on with Mac Jones,
Speaker 1: who did they take in the second round? Moore? That
Speaker 1: was the other Alabama product. They've had a pretty solid
Speaker 1: draft so far. Do you think the Cowboys took two
Speaker 1: big swings in the first two rounds and they were like, man,
Speaker 1: these are high upside. If this hits, we're gonna be
Speaker 1: in such good shape. And then they got to the third,
Speaker 1: the guys, I feel we scale it back a little bit,
Speaker 1: get a little safe here. Literally, Yeah, that's the impressional
Speaker 1: good player. Ronnie Perkins, edge rusher out of Oklahoma goes
Speaker 1: off the board at ninety six. That's a real pin
Speaker 1: throw for Jeff Kavanaugh. Yeah, one of my favorite plays
Speaker 1: of watching tape. And I don't want to pretend that
Speaker 1: like he dominated him all day, but one of my
Speaker 1: favorite plays is Tevin Jenkins, the Oklahoma state right tackle
Speaker 1: who just bullies everybody and he got long armed and
Speaker 1: just thrown by Ronnie Perkins. So he's interesting because on tape,
Speaker 1: I guess I thought he would have tested a little
Speaker 1: better than he did athletically, so he's not a really
Speaker 1: a full size edge and the athletic testing is going
Speaker 1: to tell you that he's not a great change of
Speaker 1: direction guy and he's a four seven forty. But it
Speaker 1: works on the field. I mean he affects the pocket,
Speaker 1: he makes plays in the backfield. I like Ronnie Perkins
Speaker 1: a lot. And do you think the athletic testing moved
Speaker 1: him down at all, Brian or Dane or do you
Speaker 1: think this is where he was going to go? I
Speaker 1: think there's some questions about him character wise because his
Speaker 1: six games suspension. He had a six game suspension part
Speaker 1: of it. And we think that for marijuana. So marijuana,
Speaker 1: I'd like to go on record that marijuana is not
Speaker 1: a character concern. Well that's but that's what Oklahoma thought
Speaker 1: it was. So, you know, coaches swear by this guy.
Speaker 1: They say he loves football. I was talking to people
Speaker 1: about him. I mean, he does everything to try and
Speaker 1: get ready to play. He does come off the ball
Speaker 1: in a hurry. I mean, there's some impressive first step quickness.
Speaker 1: I thought he might have been a little stiff, but
Speaker 1: that wasn't the case. The more I watched him, though.
Speaker 1: You see him Ben, you see him get around the edge.
Speaker 1: He could put the block in a bad position with
Speaker 1: his rush. He could work under a round blocks. He's
Speaker 1: gonna dip, he's gonna get low. It's impressive the way
Speaker 1: he's able to chase the ball, try get down to hurry.
Speaker 1: I really, I think there's a lot of things that
Speaker 1: are very positive about him. It. You know, I thought
Speaker 1: he could be a fit for four to three or
Speaker 1: three four. Somebody's gonna play him at defensive end, somebody's
Speaker 1: gonna play him a outside linebacker. He went to a
Speaker 1: team that they're gonna play both out of three four
Speaker 1: and four three to get ready for that. You're gonna
Speaker 1: play everywhere in England. Get ready for that. Trey McKitty
Speaker 1: from Georgia goes off the board. By the way, Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: Ronnie Perkins, how long has it been since we've seen
Speaker 1: an Oklahoma player lasting until the ninety sixth overall pick. Wow,
Speaker 1: he was the first Sooner, first Sooner off. Okay, everybody,
Speaker 1: never mind, I forgot about Kyle. That's on me. I'm Kyle.
Speaker 1: Kyle's trying to talk bad about the Sooners. That's all
Speaker 1: why this is why you don't get invited to the Crawfish. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's been I thought that that was a
Speaker 1: Louisiana thing. But that's okay for a few days for
Speaker 1: the Big twelve. Yeah, got shut out of the first round,
Speaker 1: and they've got a few guys today. So what do
Speaker 1: you think about Trey McKitty. By the way, the Broncos
Speaker 1: are on the clock now after a trade with the
Speaker 1: Saints earlier in the draft at ninety eight, and then
Speaker 1: it's the Cowboys on the clock at nine. This guy's
Speaker 1: a transferred from a grad transfer from Florida State right, Yes,
Speaker 1: And I thought this best film was at Florida State.
Speaker 1: Then it was that Georgia. He was barely you he
Speaker 1: was underutilized both spots. Yeah, you know, he's a good
Speaker 1: player who was not really allowed to show it very often.
Speaker 1: Surprise he's drafted here ahead of Brevin Jordan and some
Speaker 1: some of the tight ends. But he's a good player
Speaker 1: who I think could be a better pro than college
Speaker 1: player because it's it's based on, you know, his opportunities.
Speaker 1: And he's a good blocker, a competent pass catcher. A
Speaker 1: little surprise he's going this early, but a solid player.
Speaker 1: He had a nice one handed catch in the Senior Bowl,
Speaker 1: so I remember watching that. But yeah, this is about
Speaker 1: ten feet from me. Yeah, this guy, I don't think
Speaker 1: he's I don't think he's the best route runner, but
Speaker 1: he could he could make it play up the seam
Speaker 1: or when the throws when the film a screen. They
Speaker 1: had some like delayed screens and stuff like that. I
Speaker 1: thought he was pretty good at but he can make
Speaker 1: some moves in the open field to gain some positive
Speaker 1: yards for a guy his size. Steven Jones, I think
Speaker 1: they they've made their because Steven Jones has a stokey ready,
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones is like a good job, everybody, We're done
Speaker 1: for the night, which I think that's stokey cost more
Speaker 1: over under forty bucks. I think it's what you don't think.
Speaker 1: It's just a run of the mill. We were thirty
Speaker 1: when two thousand and five it was like thirty bucks.
Speaker 1: You get the you saved the really good ones for
Speaker 1: Saturday night, right, Yeah. Yeah, I'm at oh Man at
Speaker 1: Valley Ranch back when it was a little more tightly
Speaker 1: together on Saturday night. You could smell the cigar stow
Speaker 1: coming from the war room like one hundred feet away.
Speaker 1: So the Broncos selection just around the corner here at
Speaker 1: ninety eight that the Cowboys will officially I guess they're
Speaker 1: already officially on the clock and they've already officially made
Speaker 1: their selection. And the time or the draft where what's
Speaker 1: actually happened way behind, fifteen minutes ahead of ye we're
Speaker 1: way behind. So Quinn miner go Dane all time. There
Speaker 1: you go, Dane, it was at ninety eight. That's a
Speaker 1: good player. I mean it's such a unique situation because, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, based off the nineteen film looked like a
Speaker 1: late rounder, but then he you know, has a season
Speaker 1: taken out from under him. He spends the year working
Speaker 1: with trainers, working with uh, you know, different coaches to
Speaker 1: get him in game ready. Shape goes to the Senior
Speaker 1: Bowl and just dominates a little surprise, he lasted this long,
Speaker 1: but that's to the pronco's advantage. They get a really
Speaker 1: good player. So now the Cowboys on the clock. Brian,
Speaker 1: what are you thinking here? I don't know. Seriously, we're
Speaker 1: all kind. I'm glad. I'm sad you asked me that question. Sorry,
Speaker 1: because seriously, I I don't know. I really don't. And
Speaker 1: I want to believe that I can name I can
Speaker 1: name about ten guys right now. I'd love for him
Speaker 1: to take and it won't be one. It won't be
Speaker 1: one of I just know you're right, yeah and that,
Speaker 1: and it's been that kind of week. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you guys sound like you're just I'm just kind
Speaker 1: of there too. Actually, I just, well, do we got
Speaker 1: it's it's it's to me. I just maybe it's me
Speaker 1: because I'm frustrated myself about where the players they've taken
Speaker 1: where I had them. You know, when if the last
Speaker 1: two guys I've had both guys have been in the
Speaker 1: fourth round. They were third round players. So I'm frustrated
Speaker 1: with myself for I think you've lost it. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess I don't even care about that. I get like,
Speaker 1: I don't care about my opinion of the players. I
Speaker 1: just want to know what they're gonna do. And to
Speaker 1: go back to Dane's point, it's all about the breadcrumbs, man,
Speaker 1: and clearly we don't have enough of them because everything
Speaker 1: they've done since they I knew I was dialed in
Speaker 1: on Kelvin Joseph and everything that's happened since then is
Speaker 1: a mystery and doesn't follow anything that I was expecting,
Speaker 1: nothing at all. And I would have never guessed Kelvin
Speaker 1: Joseph in a million years after the White Point, after
Speaker 1: the Micah Parsons pick, Okay, I would have never guessed
Speaker 1: that you would have a guy where they were. People
Speaker 1: had questions about off the field, that they would take it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they said that dude can cover. We're gonna take
Speaker 1: that dude. I think they really said, we need a
Speaker 1: freaking cornerback and we gotta do what we gotta do,
Speaker 1: and that dude can cover. Well, yeah, that's that's part
Speaker 1: of the two and so now when you get to
Speaker 1: this pick, it's like, all right, so they went big swing,
Speaker 1: big swing, bunt, bunt, and now what do you do.
Speaker 1: I need to hear your analogy for whatever this pick is. Okay,
Speaker 1: well it depends who it is. Yeah, And I don't
Speaker 1: want spoilers. People. People keep trying to text me picks
Speaker 1: three minutes before it happens, and I don't want to know.
Speaker 1: I want to see the pick and we'll react. Well,
Speaker 1: we are going to react to it because they're walking
Speaker 1: up to the stand right now. The final pick of
Speaker 1: Day two of the NFL Draft for the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: at ninety nine. The Cowboys will select Please tell me
Speaker 1: I heard of him. Please tell me I heard of him.
Speaker 1: That's all I ask. Cornerback Nashan right out of Oregon States.
Speaker 1: Never heard of him? Come on, Dane. Wow, So Dane's stumped.
Speaker 1: That's a non combine tramp or invite. By the way,
Speaker 1: transfer from Laney College in the City College of Frisco,
Speaker 1: older brother of Last Chance You Star was genreight. This
Speaker 1: guy is really unique. I mean, uh, you don't see
Speaker 1: many six four corners, that's what he is. Y to
Speaker 1: were trying to find our Brandon Browner here. Is that
Speaker 1: what's happening? Basically? Yeah, okay, that's what he is. Can
Speaker 1: he be Brandon Browner? Because if he is, I'm on board.
Speaker 1: He's he's intriguing. Uh, he didn't. I mean, the testing
Speaker 1: numbers were just okay, weren't great. Uh, but it's just
Speaker 1: funny watching him out there because he literally towers over
Speaker 1: receivers and it's just a weird sight to see him
Speaker 1: out there because he's so tall, but he's very light
Speaker 1: footed with how he moves. Obviously, the length is outstanding
Speaker 1: and helps him be destructive. Uh. Five interceptions the last
Speaker 1: two years. So he was my thirty eighth ranked corner.
Speaker 1: I did not have a big raid on him, thy
Speaker 1: eighth ranth corner. Yeah, I let him have fun. Hey,
Speaker 1: I did one hundred and ninety players this year. I
Speaker 1: did not do this player. Okay, let me let me
Speaker 1: read you the my final three sentences from his report. Right,
Speaker 1: is not a quick twitch mover, but he stays light
Speaker 1: on his feet to slide open and run down field
Speaker 1: with receivers. He's still relatively new to the cornerback position.
Speaker 1: He's a former receiver and it shows at times. As
Speaker 1: he struggles to stay square or ahead of receivers. Overall
Speaker 1: Right is a long and lanky athlete who is still
Speaker 1: developing his instincts and technique, but his length and ball
Speaker 1: skills are interesting foundational traits for a classic press band
Speaker 1: corner prospect. And what gray did you have on him?
Speaker 1: What round did you have on him? Because I mean
Speaker 1: he's a late round type of Yeah, because I tried
Speaker 1: to study every draftable player you had. Yeah, I really did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's so. I mean, if we're if we're just peeling
Speaker 1: the curtain ball watched the guy to night. When to
Speaker 1: get home? I can't Hey, look, I can't kill the
Speaker 1: pick or the guy because I never heard of him.
Speaker 1: All right, I gotta watch Benjamin Saint Juice. That's the
Speaker 1: type of guy, you know, long, lanky, light act had
Speaker 1: sat Juice just like player, like if you're three hundred,
Speaker 1: you had him a like one. Yeah. Two. They just
Speaker 1: showed a highlight of him chasing a slant and he
Speaker 1: tried to tackle the guy and fell off the tackle
Speaker 1: and someone else tackled him and that was a highlight.
Speaker 1: I'm just wanting to know, I Dan Dane will always
Speaker 1: be modest, but and and Dane. Dane's not always going
Speaker 1: to be right, but he's His track record speaks for
Speaker 1: itself absolutely. So look, if this guy turns out to
Speaker 1: be a good player, I'll be very wrong because I
Speaker 1: got a seventh round grade on him. But uh I did.
Speaker 1: I did not like dislike him, you know, watching him play,
Speaker 1: I just I think he's a raw player. Uh, that's
Speaker 1: gonna take some time. So you know, if you're looking
Speaker 1: for a guy that's gonna help you right now, I
Speaker 1: don't think this guy's it. But when we look back
Speaker 1: at this pick in three years, could absolutely end up
Speaker 1: being a steel because I think there are foundational traits
Speaker 1: there that you can develop. But this is a surprise
Speaker 1: to see him as a top one hundred pick. I
Speaker 1: I admire every ounce of what you just told me
Speaker 1: because that took a lot for you to make me
Speaker 1: feel a little bit better. But you also didn't like
Speaker 1: him enough to put him ahead of thirty seven other
Speaker 1: corners in this draft. I just wanted to let you
Speaker 1: know that point, and that's that's very true. That doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that Afrey Thomas Wade you know, yeah, Hey, it's interesting.
Speaker 1: I heard a suggestion that this name could be called
Speaker 1: and full always full disclosure. I'm nothing if not honest.
Speaker 1: I don't watch six hundred players. So the first thing
Speaker 1: I did flipped open my book went down there, and
Speaker 1: I just got sadder and sadder the longer down the
Speaker 1: list that went, which I glad to admit I'm wrong,
Speaker 1: because I've made a career being wrong. But now now
Speaker 1: I'm to the point where I'm just like, okay, is
Speaker 1: this Brian's getting read? All right? And now I'm okay,
Speaker 1: I am. I'm like he led the team in interceptions
Speaker 1: both years. I mean, there are things to like about him. Um,
Speaker 1: but again, it's just it's a it's an upside pick.
Speaker 1: It's a guy that you're looking at the raw traits
Speaker 1: and you're saying, Okay, what can we mold this kid
Speaker 1: into a former wide receiver who you know, just again,
Speaker 1: rare to have a six four guy that can have
Speaker 1: the light feet and move like he can. He's he
Speaker 1: bounced around a couple of different colleges before he arrived
Speaker 1: at Oregon State. He's just really interesting that That's the
Speaker 1: best way I can kind of describe. By the way,
Speaker 1: the pick after the Cowboys Sean Right, Elijah Molden goes
Speaker 1: off the board to Tennessee, which that one kind of hurts,
Speaker 1: is it? Is it fair to say this is? This
Speaker 1: has got to just be doing. You're either your defensive
Speaker 1: coordinator or your DB's coaches solid right, you like it.
Speaker 1: It reminds me of Kavanaugh. Honestly, Kavanaugh was like our
Speaker 1: Darius Washington. I don't care how tall he is. Get
Speaker 1: him on my damn team. And I'm just imagining we
Speaker 1: do have Naean right on the phone as he is
Speaker 1: the newest pick and the newest Dallas Cowboy. Nashan. First off, congratulations,
Speaker 1: welcome to the Dallas Cowboys. What's going through your mind
Speaker 1: right now? So I don't even know. I couldn't feel
Speaker 1: my legs right now. Uh, this happy. I'm more than happy.
Speaker 1: My dad family of originally from Texas. I lost my dad,
Speaker 1: So just being able to go to Texas amazing. Congratulations man.
Speaker 1: So I'm curious, you know, we we do this months
Speaker 1: on end, and no disrespect to you, but you definitely
Speaker 1: weren't very much on our radar. I'm just curious if
Speaker 1: you've had a connection with the Cowboys who you've been
Speaker 1: talking to here, um, just what this process has been
Speaker 1: like for you as it pertains to the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: It's been amazing. I got a chance to speak with
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator dan Quinn and the defensive back coach
Speaker 1: Alum and the talks for it, I mean they were
Speaker 1: great talks. Uh we uh kind of just connected just
Speaker 1: to do the type of person I was, and and
Speaker 1: I didn't really get to talk to my football but
Speaker 1: uh yeah, where where are you at right now? You
Speaker 1: talk about your family being a part of this or
Speaker 1: being down from Texas, rather what's the scene like and
Speaker 1: what's the celebration like for you guys right now? It's
Speaker 1: not even all my family, but the family that I
Speaker 1: do have her going crazy or home in my mom's house.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, it's a very an Ados like we're just
Speaker 1: going crazy right now to dance and I have to
Speaker 1: actually get away to walk out there. That's great. Which
Speaker 1: and you know you mentioned dan Quinn, that's when we
Speaker 1: heard your name called. You know what I think about
Speaker 1: with dan Quinn is these you know, these tall cornerbacks
Speaker 1: and obviously you you fit that bill really well. What
Speaker 1: what um just in general? What is it about your
Speaker 1: game that that you think appealed to the Cowboys and
Speaker 1: what do you think you bring to this team? Uh
Speaker 1: stepping in here? Well yeah, so uh just I mean
Speaker 1: I'm six four, so it's rare. Uh I'm an anomaly,
Speaker 1: so uh just being able to get my hands out
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. And of course, I mean
Speaker 1: you know where dan Quinn comes from. We know type
Speaker 1: of defenses he like. So uh, I just feel like
Speaker 1: I just fit perfectly in that system. So uh just
Speaker 1: a blessing to end up undercoat dan Quinn and uh
Speaker 1: a Dallas Cowboys. We're talking to de Sean Right, newest
Speaker 1: draft pick for the Dallas Cowboys here on one O
Speaker 1: five three to Fanning Dallas Cowboys dot Com. De Sean,
Speaker 1: you talk about fitting into that system. What kind of
Speaker 1: system did you specifically run during your time at Oregon
Speaker 1: State and how do you think that'll translate to the pros.
Speaker 1: We were like a multi skin defense. We ran anywhere
Speaker 1: from zero to six. So, um, just my my versatility. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's definitely going to help me being able. I played
Speaker 1: a lot of man coverage at Orgies State, so um,
Speaker 1: I mean I could do it all. So I feel
Speaker 1: like I anywhere, but Dallas is just a perfect fit.
Speaker 1: I've been talking, go for it. Continue. Sorry, didn't mean
Speaker 1: to cotch you off there. Yeah, Like for some reason,
Speaker 1: I had a gut feeling that I was gonna get
Speaker 1: that call from Dallas. It happened. I just on it
Speaker 1: just felt right, The situation felt right. The coach talking
Speaker 1: have with coach Quinn was great. So it's just so right.
Speaker 1: When did you have that conversation with coach Quinn? Immediately
Speaker 1: after my pro day? Talked to him maybe for about
Speaker 1: fifteen twenty minutes. We just kind of connected on the
Speaker 1: personal level. He talked about football just a little bit,
Speaker 1: but more so just the type of kid I was. Well, Naean,
Speaker 1: congratulations on the afternoon and into the evening here. We
Speaker 1: are excited to have you as a part of the
Speaker 1: Cowboys and we'll talk to you again soon. Yeah, sir,
Speaker 1: welcome back to Texas man. Yeah absolutely, Nasan right knewest
Speaker 1: draft pick for the Dallas Cowboys, selected at ninety nine
Speaker 1: over all in the third round here on Day two.
Speaker 1: Couple of updates following the right pick. Melofon Wu cornerback
Speaker 1: from Syracuse goes at one oh one to the Lions,
Speaker 1: and at one oh two corner Ambrey Thomas from Michigan
Speaker 1: goes so corner corner, corner, corner, one ninety nine through
Speaker 1: one oh two here for the Dallas Cowboys. Well, after
Speaker 1: hearing from that sweet young man, I hope that he
Speaker 1: has a wonderful career. But my guess is history will
Speaker 1: not look back fondly on being picked right before Elijah Molden,
Speaker 1: Melofon and Ambrey Thomas. The beauty, the beauty of the draft, right,
Speaker 1: we never know. Well, what happens is you start to
Speaker 1: see the run and people, you know, they're gonna sleep
Speaker 1: on their board tonight and they're gonna look at all
Speaker 1: those you know, the teams at the end here in
Speaker 1: the Compensis toy. Yeah, you could trade these picks, but
Speaker 1: you could also you're in a situation where when you
Speaker 1: when you go to bed tonight, you're gonna look up
Speaker 1: there and you're gonna say, Okay, at least we don't
Speaker 1: have to take care of this this. This guys are
Speaker 1: knocking out their players right now, and they're gonna be
Speaker 1: ready tomorrow when this thing kicks off and have a
Speaker 1: a good run at it. And I feel like some teams,
Speaker 1: I especially live the last three picks. As we get
Speaker 1: to this point, Molden, Melofon and Thomas huge fan of
Speaker 1: all three of those players. Look like I know a
Speaker 1: lot of people read my draft guide and will base
Speaker 1: their opinions on players based off of what I write,
Speaker 1: And so I hope people will go go check out
Speaker 1: tape of this guy, go find highlights. Yeah, go go.
Speaker 1: I hope people go look at him because you know, yes,
Speaker 1: I had a later round grade on him, but you
Speaker 1: know what I've been wrong before, could be wrong again.
Speaker 1: Hopefully I want people to form their own opinions and
Speaker 1: not going strictly based on my evaluation that and you
Speaker 1: know it, maybe maybe I'm soft. I don't know, like
Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't want to kill and not someone
Speaker 1: I don't care about hurting the front offices feelings, but
Speaker 1: like the player, like it's not his fault, happy guy draft,
Speaker 1: and I don't blame him. The thing with that, too
Speaker 1: is wow, I feel like I completely lost my train
Speaker 1: of thought. Oh no, I'm back, I got it back.
Speaker 1: The point is is, like so many people and Dan,
Speaker 1: it's not your fault either, but people are gonna open
Speaker 1: you just like I did. I opened your book, scrolled
Speaker 1: way down on the list and thought, oh no, if
Speaker 1: this is not great, but yeah, I mean you're not
Speaker 1: infallible and so not at all. Yeah, you know, at
Speaker 1: the very least, I owe it to this guy to
Speaker 1: go sit down and watch a game or two seeing
Speaker 1: and I hope a lot of people take that same attitude.
Speaker 1: And I do think that he said something very smart
Speaker 1: and that he could have went to a lot of places,
Speaker 1: but he went here. And the scheme I think fits
Speaker 1: really well with you know, you think of Pete Carroll
Speaker 1: and everything they had in Seattle, and you mentioned Browner.
Speaker 1: That's a good example just at the height the length
Speaker 1: ability to fit that scheme. If he's going to succeed,
Speaker 1: this is the scheme to do it. So him out
Speaker 1: playing right graded him would not be a huge surprise.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and take a break here. We have
Speaker 1: gone just about three more picks left here in day two,
Speaker 1: looking ahead to day three, we're gonna go. Here's some
Speaker 1: secret audio on the other side of the break. When
Speaker 1: we return, you're listening to the twenty twenty one NFL
Speaker 1: Draft on one to five three to fan and Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot com. So there's a lot to unpack here.
Speaker 1: To say the least, I think a day too. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not trying to cut you off, Kyle,
Speaker 1: go for it you, Jeffrey, and again Kyle, not disrespecting you,
Speaker 1: but you three that I've done this with for a
Speaker 1: long time. How have you ever felt this just thrown
Speaker 1: for a loop by what they did on a particular day.
Speaker 1: I kind of thought I had an idea what Rod
Speaker 1: MIRNELLI had going. You know, when defensive coordinator gets involved,
Speaker 1: you're not always going to be happy about what they do,
Speaker 1: but we typically see it coming or try to have
Speaker 1: a good idea of what's going to happen. Again, the
Speaker 1: lack of Brett crumbs, you know, we keep coming back
Speaker 1: to that. We don't have a thirty list to be
Speaker 1: a poor over. You don't have the list of who
Speaker 1: they met at the combine. Uh. There's so many pieces
Speaker 1: to the usual puzzle the process that we just don't
Speaker 1: have this year. So it's you know, a guy like right, Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, well that's a name that I mean, Jeff
Speaker 1: you said you'd never heard that name, right, Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure a lot of fans the same thing.
Speaker 1: In a normal year, we probably would have heard, you know,
Speaker 1: more fans would have heard that name before because he
Speaker 1: might have been a thirty visit or a private workout guy.
Speaker 1: It's a really good point, Ernest. Ernest Jones, a linebacker
Speaker 1: from South Carolina is going to the Rams, and I
Speaker 1: have heard him and I like him. And that's the
Speaker 1: tough part, Like it's not gonna be like it's it's
Speaker 1: easy to just go, oh, I've never heard of him.
Speaker 1: He must be terrible, and then see the names of
Speaker 1: all of these guys that I do like that are
Speaker 1: going off the board, and it's like, well, this isn't
Speaker 1: gonna end well. But tonight I will go home and
Speaker 1: I will watch him. There's no question we will see.
Speaker 1: That might be the top topic tomorrow to start the
Speaker 1: show is probably what did we see from what we
Speaker 1: saw from I already forgot. Oh no, come on, Kyle,
Speaker 1: I didn't have enough in front of me. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, this is I mean it is. It's interesting.
Speaker 1: I don't think any of us are upset with the
Speaker 1: way that the first two picks turned out. With the
Speaker 1: situation that was at hand, Michael Parsons, they did an
Speaker 1: okay job of trading back and taking probably the best
Speaker 1: player available at that point on their board. I mean,
Speaker 1: of course, we probably would have done something different with
Speaker 1: with Rashaans later with somebody else there. However, we kind of,
Speaker 1: like Dave said, expected that pick to happen right whenever
Speaker 1: the situation came at hand, we said, okay, they're going
Speaker 1: to trade back and probably take Parsons here. I was
Speaker 1: hoping for rashawon Slater, so were we all? Yeah, But
Speaker 1: I thought that with the trade down and getting the
Speaker 1: best linebacker in the draft. I was like, Okay, this
Speaker 1: can work. Let's see what the trade doown nets you.
Speaker 1: And the trade Doown netted number eighty four, and number
Speaker 1: eighty four was Chauncey Galston. So I don't mind get
Speaker 1: Chauncey Gholston for free for moving down two spots and
Speaker 1: probably picking the same guy they were going to pick um.
Speaker 1: But o Dicky Zoo obviously was not the top d
Speaker 1: tackle I had, right, was not the top corner that
Speaker 1: I had. So some of their picks I'll look at
Speaker 1: it at the moment and go really, and we'll see
Speaker 1: if that opinion on right changes overnight. I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: laughing because like before they drafted right, we you know,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be all smart and figure out what
Speaker 1: they're doing, Like, well, they're drafting high floor guys. They
Speaker 1: need guys that can go right now. And then that
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see if he's we'll see if he's better.
Speaker 1: But based on what we know about I'm like, that's
Speaker 1: that's a gamble sure as healthy. I will say I
Speaker 1: think that for me, the biggest mistake they will have
Speaker 1: made in this draft is going O Dicky Zoo at
Speaker 1: seventy five and then another guy who I think is
Speaker 1: a scheme fit here that's a really good player in
Speaker 1: Pauls and Nadibo went to pick after. Yeah, you could
Speaker 1: have had him at seventy five and I would be
Speaker 1: feeling a lot different a lot of that draft. Well,
Speaker 1: you probably could have got a Giza with the next pick,
Speaker 1: Gholston with his pick after that. Yeah, you might have
Speaker 1: been able to just keep following it. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: taken right in the seventh. I don't know that I
Speaker 1: haven't seen him. We're just going off Dane. Oh gosh,
Speaker 1: Dane is a real jerk to you know, I do
Speaker 1: I feel bad? Who else? Who else? Who else even
Speaker 1: does as many prospects as Dane? Nobody, nobody, well maybe
Speaker 1: NFL teams. Maybe there might there might not be another.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm sure there's not something. It's gonna do
Speaker 1: a mock draft for next year after this thing and
Speaker 1: then start two weeks later on tape no I. And
Speaker 1: my only point was like, Dane might be the only outside,
Speaker 1: only member of the media who has a report on
Speaker 1: this guy. I like, I don't know. You know, Buddy
Speaker 1: Jonah saw him and he said he liked him, had him.
Speaker 1: He's like a fourth round guy. So there's somebody that's
Speaker 1: seen him and liked him. Okay, so that's good. By
Speaker 1: the way. Baron Browning, Ohio state linebacker goes as the
Speaker 1: final selection of the third round at one oh five
Speaker 1: to the Denver Broncos. And that was another guy that,
Speaker 1: at least before the Micah Parsons pick, was rumored to
Speaker 1: have been in conversation with the Dallas Cowboys. I wonder
Speaker 1: if they talked about him leading up to that pick.
Speaker 1: Day two has come to a close of the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one NFL Draft as we continue our wall to
Speaker 1: wall coverage on one oh five three The Fan and
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com. The final picks after the Cowboys
Speaker 1: select Nashon Wright, at pick number ninety nine, the corner
Speaker 1: out of Oregon State, Elijah Molden Melafon move from Syracuse
Speaker 1: goes at one oh one. The forty nine ers take
Speaker 1: Ambrey Thomas the corner from Michigan, Ernest Jones linebacker from
Speaker 1: South Carolina, Brandon Stevens corner from SMU and then the
Speaker 1: final pick of the third round, Baron Browning, linebacker out
Speaker 1: of Ohio State and Kennadale High School product from over
Speaker 1: near Fort Worth, and he goes to round out round
Speaker 1: number three. Kyle Yeoman's Jeff Cabin O'Brien brought us Dame
Speaker 1: Bruegler and David Hellman rounding out what is a wild
Speaker 1: day to a unique day to to say the least
Speaker 1: about the NFL Draft. And there's a lot to talk about,
Speaker 1: Dave whenever it comes to the Dallas Cowboys and some
Speaker 1: of the selections that they made. Will hear from of
Speaker 1: course the front office pretty soon about it. But you
Speaker 1: take four picks into the night, you come out with
Speaker 1: four picks, no trading up, no trading back. But what
Speaker 1: did you think overall of the day? Um, well, I
Speaker 1: already I said at the top, like this is which
Speaker 1: is ironic because like we nailed the first one, like
Speaker 1: we were on Kelvin Joseph Quick and I felt good
Speaker 1: about that, and I haven't. I haven't felt so thrown
Speaker 1: for a loop by a Cowboys draft day in a
Speaker 1: long time. It's like they clearly like their guys. Itn't
Speaker 1: didn't always line up with what we thought. But my
Speaker 1: second impression on that is, you can't say they didn't
Speaker 1: address the defense. My god, they haven't gone offense one time.
Speaker 1: They did. I mean, and we've said so many times,
Speaker 1: you're like, they're not all going to be defensive picks,
Speaker 1: like they're going to draft attack or a receiver. I thought,
Speaker 1: I thought they're gonna take an offensive tackle. They might
Speaker 1: have thought about it, but literally they've how many have
Speaker 1: they made? Five? They've made five five five defenders, probably
Speaker 1: four of which are good enough to contribute right away.
Speaker 1: We think, yes, let's hear from one of those selections
Speaker 1: in the secret audio. This might be a fun one.
Speaker 1: I think Nashan right the final pick of the day
Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboys, as he was selected at ninety nine. No, Sean, listen,
Speaker 1: this is Jerry Jones of the Dallas Cowboys. How we
Speaker 1: just decided to pick you, and you're now we're turning
Speaker 1: your card in. You're gonna be a Dallas cowboy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's go. You've bet. Hey, where are you right now?
Speaker 1: Where are you? I'm home. I'm our home of Stockton,
Speaker 1: California and Stockton Okay, buddy, well listen, we are excited
Speaker 1: about having you, really are. And we were, we were,
Speaker 1: we were, we were doing a lot of consternation. So
Speaker 1: come come in here and uh be one of the
Speaker 1: greatest length of corners ever played. All right, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: here's your coach, Ny sean coach from Carthy. How are
Speaker 1: you going? Hey, congratulations, are you around family and friends?
Speaker 1: Thank you? Well, hey, man, I just want you to
Speaker 1: come in here and be yourself. You're you're. It's a
Speaker 1: great fit. We're gonna we're gonna coach a let and
Speaker 1: you're gonna be part of a championship football team. All right, man,
Speaker 1: Oh I love it, I love it. Enjoy this moment.
Speaker 1: All right? All right? But bye. So that's the secret audio.
Speaker 1: And I mean we knew it was going to be
Speaker 1: a surprise for right. Probably it was a surprise to us.
Speaker 1: It was a surprise to right. That's a great moment.
Speaker 1: I love, like everybody's excited on the draft call, but
Speaker 1: for him to literally yell, let's go in. Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: is here, Jerry said, let's go, let's go back. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for this guy because, like we said, it's
Speaker 1: it's not his fault. Like if if the Cowboys are wrong,
Speaker 1: we can roast him for it later. But I'm not
Speaker 1: going to root against this dude because I don't want
Speaker 1: to feel right. Let's just have a feel a better
Speaker 1: athlete than what we saw with Robinson at a Tulsa
Speaker 1: last year. Kind of a long, tall corner. Any any
Speaker 1: any comparison there, Dane, with what we what we have now,
Speaker 1: well and we think of Okay, the Robinson pick was
Speaker 1: for a different scheme, you know, a different uh defensive
Speaker 1: coaching staff. So this all it comes down to is
Speaker 1: you know, you look like I'm putting you on the
Speaker 1: spot here. I'm sorry about this, no, but I mean
Speaker 1: the thing is with Robinson, we just don't know enough.
Speaker 1: I don't you know, we don't don't know enough about
Speaker 1: how he progress as a rookie, what he's gonna look
Speaker 1: like in year two. A lot of question marks with him,
Speaker 1: with right. I think, you know, like we talked about,
Speaker 1: he is a kind of the prototype for a intriguing
Speaker 1: raw prospect in that Dan Quinn scheme. A guy that
Speaker 1: can play the cover three. It can be a press
Speaker 1: man guy if you want him to. But the light feet,
Speaker 1: the length, you know, it's just it's a really interesting pick.
Speaker 1: That interesting, I think, is the word I keep coming
Speaker 1: back to, because there's nothing about him that says like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's not going to be a good pro He's just very,
Speaker 1: very raw, and so it will take a little bit
Speaker 1: of time. But again, he said it himself. Six four corners.
Speaker 1: That's rare, and it's not like he's listed at six
Speaker 1: four and he's really six one and a half. He's
Speaker 1: a legit six four. He towers over wide receiver. So
Speaker 1: a really interesting player. I'm gonna really put you on
Speaker 1: the spot because they did this a couple of years
Speaker 1: ago with Chris Westry. Yeah, he's similar. I think Westrey
Speaker 1: was more like six two sixty three. Yeah, Kentucky. But
Speaker 1: I don't know how how do those two compare. What
Speaker 1: do you think about that as a you know, whether
Speaker 1: this guy's got more upside? Maybe I think he's got
Speaker 1: more upside. Yeah, I think he's a guy that has
Speaker 1: yet to play his best football. When you watch him,
Speaker 1: he's again a former wide receiver, so he's still learning
Speaker 1: the ins and outs of the position. There are times
Speaker 1: where he just looks lost, but there are other times
Speaker 1: where his athleticism allows him to stay in phase and
Speaker 1: recover quickly. So when you have that length, you're able
Speaker 1: to cast a wide net in as a run defender,
Speaker 1: in pass coverage, you're able to make plays down the field.
Speaker 1: So just a really fascinating player that I did not
Speaker 1: expect to be off the board here on Day two.
Speaker 1: So I don't think he did either. No, No, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think. So. There's a couple of people tagging
Speaker 1: us all in these tweets about Nashan Wright and what
Speaker 1: he brings to the table. This is a good one though,
Speaker 1: about PF Nashan Wright and zone coverage. Last season, completion
Speaker 1: percentage just over forty five percent, he allowed forty two
Speaker 1: yards and his passer rating was eighteen flat. Okay, so
Speaker 1: those are good numbers in zone coverage, really good numbers
Speaker 1: to say the least. And then he's also got a
Speaker 1: lot of ball production as well. Had an interception against Oregon.
Speaker 1: It looks like has a track background. Of course he
Speaker 1: wasn't really talked about much. But I mean there's at
Speaker 1: least people pointing in the direction of this guy who've
Speaker 1: watched more than we have, and you are saying, hey,
Speaker 1: there's uh, there's some good things about it, including what
Speaker 1: Dame Brugler just said. But now that the day is concluded,
Speaker 1: we're going into day three, and of course still six
Speaker 1: more picks to make tomorrow. I mean there's a lot
Speaker 1: to go on. The Cowboys first on the clock in
Speaker 1: the fourth round at one fifteen. What do we think
Speaker 1: from here? I mean, I know, Dave, you just said it.
Speaker 1: You've never been thrown for a loop quite like this.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know, man, where do we go?
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be the analyst. I mean, there's a
Speaker 1: lot there's a lot of great players left on the board,
Speaker 1: but sure a lot of them have been there since
Speaker 1: pick yea seventy five, So I mean, you know, there's
Speaker 1: there's some good receivers there. They need to address the
Speaker 1: offensive line. I think they will Smith two guys think
Speaker 1: you know the fourth side was another guy mentioned makes
Speaker 1: waste too much sense to draft a tackle and they'll
Speaker 1: have they'll have two picks in the fourth, so they
Speaker 1: got a chance to do some of that, and that's
Speaker 1: you know, I don't you know, it's it was important
Speaker 1: to add talent on defense. But I'd like to think
Speaker 1: that now that they've gotten some of that out of
Speaker 1: the way again, go back to the two picks that
Speaker 1: we say, high floor Goldston and no O Diggi Zuoa.
Speaker 1: So maybe now if you're like, Okay, these guys are
Speaker 1: we think these guys can contribute right away, maybe they
Speaker 1: maybe they go back to more of that BPA attitude
Speaker 1: now that they've addressed some of this stuff. But I
Speaker 1: have to admit I'm just guessing because I feel clueless
Speaker 1: right now. Best player available for me I'm monros st
Speaker 1: Brown at a USC. I think the most surprising though
Speaker 1: might beat Jibril Cox. Yeah, that's my top one. I
Speaker 1: was not the biggest j. Broll Cox fan just because
Speaker 1: so many mistakes versus the runs really bothered me. But
Speaker 1: as a coverage player he was really solid, So to
Speaker 1: see him here still available out to the first two
Speaker 1: days pretty surprising. Um Kenneth Gainwell, BREVND, Jordan Jante Brown,
Speaker 1: j T. File. A couple of these players are more
Speaker 1: surprising than another. Brian brought up Cox and Browning's gone now,
Speaker 1: But Brian brought those two up all the way back
Speaker 1: in the second round, I think third round. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: wonder if you eventually get to like a blinking light
Speaker 1: type of situation where like, if Jabril Cox is there
Speaker 1: when they pick at one fifteen tomorrow, would they do
Speaker 1: it just because that's ridiculous value? Yeah, I don't just
Speaker 1: me thinking out lot well, and I know, like when
Speaker 1: I was working on my seven round mock, you know,
Speaker 1: I I always distributed it to a few different teams
Speaker 1: and I'm close with and say, hey, what do you think?
Speaker 1: What do you think? And I know one team came
Speaker 1: back and said, oh, you got Cox way too low.
Speaker 1: He's not getting out of the top forty. So it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: well now he's out of the top one hundred. Whoever
Speaker 1: told you that passed on him? That's what I'm like, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: you know, did something late come up medically or you know,
Speaker 1: it's just a curious curious thing if he's there one fifteen, though,
Speaker 1: you could take a chance you've picked five players already, right,
Speaker 1: I would like that's that's kind of my point is like, Okay,
Speaker 1: Parsons and Calvin Joseph, you're hoping are going to start
Speaker 1: right away, right yeah? And then you got O DIGGI
Speaker 1: Zooa and Gholston maybe not starters, but guys that you
Speaker 1: think can contribute. So we've addressed I guess you still
Speaker 1: need a safety. Well, you don't really need a safety
Speaker 1: because you have these three vets that they signed if
Speaker 1: you include Keyan O'Neil. So I would like to think
Speaker 1: that they are open to a more pure BPA approach
Speaker 1: tomorrow because other than offensive tackle, they've hit all of
Speaker 1: the really big problem spots. Right yeah. I guess the
Speaker 1: only guy that I think kind of stands out like
Speaker 1: a blinking light in terms of what they're trying to do,
Speaker 1: because when you're bringing in a six four corner, you
Speaker 1: are announcing hello, cover three is I think Jamar Johnson
Speaker 1: would fit in the end safety. I think you could
Speaker 1: play free safety. Now if ten people miss a tackle,
Speaker 1: the guy's going to score because Jamar Johnson can't tackle.
Speaker 1: He's a very choosy tackler, but he can't cover and
Speaker 1: make plays on the poll. I mentioned the guys too,
Speaker 1: because of those safeties. I still have Gillespie on there,
Speaker 1: and I know we watched that. You know, I mean,
Speaker 1: to me, there's some guys with Wartz, you know, Gillespie.
Speaker 1: Washington's a guy I had. I mean, I was sweet Sweetheartarius.
Speaker 1: I was shitting him at some point. I was expecting that.
Speaker 1: I was expecting him to go at the end of
Speaker 1: the third, I really was. I was Washington from TCU,
Speaker 1: and I think I think the height and then probably
Speaker 1: what he ran into forty. But again it's about you know,
Speaker 1: if you watch the tape, watch these kids play, and
Speaker 1: I don't know to me, and that's why I'm excited.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch the kid from Oregon and try and
Speaker 1: learn about him. You're gonna want to find Oregon State
Speaker 1: organ he plays Oregon against Oregon. They said it's always
Speaker 1: noticed a civil war, but it was a pick in
Speaker 1: a cover three. I was gonna let him off the hook.
Speaker 1: But you're just not I'm not very I'm not very
Speaker 1: charitable mood right now. I don't know. I was talking
Speaker 1: to Jeff. Jeff's the one over there. But it's just
Speaker 1: like I said, that's that's the thing that you know,
Speaker 1: and maybe I'm making it a two personal thing. But
Speaker 1: I just when you evaluate players, you know, you evaluate them,
Speaker 1: you think, okay, this guy, because look what happened after
Speaker 1: that kid went, the Oregon State kid went, all those
Speaker 1: corners went. It was just Bank and every one of
Speaker 1: those guys I had right where they took him. And
Speaker 1: I'm like going, Okay, maybe I'm not a complete idiot here,
Speaker 1: you know. So that's you know, I just feel like
Speaker 1: that if you take players and they probably know a
Speaker 1: hell of a lot more than me, you know, so
Speaker 1: I'll be interested to see how it all turns out.
Speaker 1: There's still a lot of draft left to be had.
Speaker 1: Today or tomorrow's the day of the scouts. Brian brought
Speaker 1: does that should make you feel better? You've got some
Speaker 1: snicker bars? You're not you when you're hungry? Doesn't He
Speaker 1: doesn't feel better because he doesn't trust that he's gonna
Speaker 1: happens to a good point. You've got You've got five
Speaker 1: more chances, six more chances to get it right tomorrow.
Speaker 1: So the Cowboys still a lot of draft left to
Speaker 1: be had. There was a chuckle there. I heard that
Speaker 1: that's true. Oh that's gonna do it for us? Here
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Speaker 1: and well, we've had a lot of fun today, a
Speaker 1: lot of guessing, guessing and a lot of pondering heading
Speaker 1: into day three and a bad guessing, but bad guessing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: swings and misses from us today. We'll try and be
Speaker 1: better tomorrow and see what we can do. But we
Speaker 1: were great. That's true. It's all about us, Jeff cavanall
Speaker 1: that's exactly right. Were right where we want to be
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