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Speaker 1: the country. NBA pushback in state to reopen practice facilities yesterday.
Speaker 1: They were looking for May first now they're going to
Speaker 1: look for May eighth. Here. This is what I don't
Speaker 1: want to hear and don't want to see. The Commissioner,
Speaker 1: Adam Silver said this a couple of weeks ago. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to set arbitrary dates for us to return
Speaker 1: because what it does is it provides false hope. Also,
Speaker 1: as a citizen, you think, Wow, the NBA's coming back.
Speaker 1: Maybe we've gotten through the worst of this pandemic. I
Speaker 1: think it gives us false hope there. We all want
Speaker 1: the NBA to come back. I just get nervous when
Speaker 1: we say, you know what, we're gonna start college football
Speaker 1: on time. We don't know that we're gonna have the
Speaker 1: Olympics next July. We don't know that. It's nice to
Speaker 1: dream about it. But these people who are in these positions,
Speaker 1: we tend to think they have more information than us,
Speaker 1: and then you start to realize maybe they don't. So
Speaker 1: May eighth right now, And it's a lot for the
Speaker 1: league to figure out. And you got states who have
Speaker 1: different rules. Competitive balances an issue if one state says, hey,
Speaker 1: you can come back and another state says no, you can't.
Speaker 1: Like the Brooklyn Nets and the New York Knicks. They
Speaker 1: would be at a decided disadvantage here. You're going to
Speaker 1: limit four players in the facility at once. Players have
Speaker 1: to be twelve feet apart while on the court. That
Speaker 1: sounds like me when I was playing defense in high school.
Speaker 1: The NBA's not alone. Other leagues are going to face
Speaker 1: the same issues as they try to get back to business,
Speaker 1: and for better for worse, sports will be a viable
Speaker 1: barometer of really how we're doing as a country. We
Speaker 1: keep saying we need sports to kickstart the economy. To
Speaker 1: kickstart the economy with sports, you have fans going to
Speaker 1: sporting events. We're not kickstarting an economy here, and I
Speaker 1: hope that we're not hinging all of our bets the
Speaker 1: future on sports coming back that will kickstart our economy.
Speaker 1: It's not easy. It's a chance for the leagues to
Speaker 1: shine by making smart and safe decisions here. Golf will
Speaker 1: come back. Golf is going to be the first sport
Speaker 1: to come back. And I understand that you can do that.
Speaker 1: You could have robotic cameras, you have you know, social
Speaker 1: distancing already, you know you're gonna walk separately. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: is there a way that you don't have to touch
Speaker 1: the pin when the ball goes in the hall, Like
Speaker 1: there's things that they still have to figure out here,
Speaker 1: But golf could still come back, and I think you
Speaker 1: could have events. You just won't have a gallery there.
Speaker 1: You're gonna come back for a football You're not going
Speaker 1: to come back for football and have fans come back.
Speaker 1: Students won't be back, but we're going to expect football
Speaker 1: players to come back. As far as the NFL goes,
Speaker 1: they're already contingency plans of what they plan on doing.
Speaker 1: You know, are you going to move back the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl Probably a couple of weeks, and you're gonna probably
Speaker 1: start this season a little bit later. Like these are
Speaker 1: just thoughts, these are these are things being discussed right now.
Speaker 1: And I take you back to whatever whatever it was
Speaker 1: a month ago when I said that they're looking at
Speaker 1: a twelve game schedule in the NFL, like that might
Speaker 1: be best case scenario. You might look at it as
Speaker 1: worst case scenario, but that might be best case scenario
Speaker 1: where you have a twelve game schedule. You know, the
Speaker 1: Sports Business Journal had a report the detailed contingency plans
Speaker 1: possibly starting the NFL in October, pushing the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: back to late February. I was told that they wanted
Speaker 1: to do the Super Bowl on President's Day weekend because
Speaker 1: then that gave you that Monday off, so you actually
Speaker 1: had a holiday for people with the super Bowl. So
Speaker 1: that might not be a crazy thing. You might eliminate
Speaker 1: the buye weeks here, there would be no Pro Bowl,
Speaker 1: but nobody would notice. But the NFL is a big story.
Speaker 1: And if they get to that point where they start
Speaker 1: making their contingency plans, the other leagues will follow. Jeff
Speaker 1: PASSINEU I have great respect for works for the mothership.
Speaker 1: He said, you know, according to sources, we're having baseball
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. Okay, I don't know how we're having
Speaker 1: it because I can't say, hey, let's use all these
Speaker 1: tests for our athletes. But do people who really need
Speaker 1: these tests? Are they able to get those? You just
Speaker 1: can't sit there and go, hey, we get tested every
Speaker 1: single day we go in. Okay, people who are still
Speaker 1: needing test. That's not a good look, not a good
Speaker 1: look at all. Are we going to come up with
Speaker 1: a vaccine? I can't imagine fans going back without a vaccine.
Speaker 1: And they say the vaccine, according to the medical community,
Speaker 1: is twelve to eighteen months out. That's why when we go, hey,
Speaker 1: everything's returning to normal. There is no normal anymore. This
Speaker 1: is different, and how we adapt to this is really important.
Speaker 1: What we expect. It's like the draft. We adapted to it,
Speaker 1: we accepted it. How we go to sporting events, where
Speaker 1: we sit at sporting events. When we come back from
Speaker 1: sporting events, it's going to be different. It's not going
Speaker 1: to be the same and may never be the same.
Speaker 1: But that's why I think patience is really important. But
Speaker 1: when I see doctor and a quote fans may not
Speaker 1: be in stadiums until well into twenty twenty one. We
Speaker 1: can hope for this. We can say we're America. We
Speaker 1: get through this. We got to get through the pandemic first,
Speaker 1: and then we get through too. Hey, now we can
Speaker 1: go out and enjoy things that we took for granted,
Speaker 1: like going to a sporting event. We all need it.
Speaker 1: The economy, the country, we need it. We understand that.
Speaker 1: But you can't push up this time frame. And it's
Speaker 1: dangerous when we do it, because I think it gives
Speaker 1: false security, false hope, and a false sense of invincibility.
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Speaker 1: to get heavy to start out, but that was what
Speaker 1: was on my mind when I started to read this
Speaker 1: with the NBA, and I applauded Commissioner Adam Silver when
Speaker 1: a month ago he said I'm not going to give
Speaker 1: you time frames, and I said, great, that's really smart.
Speaker 1: Look at all the time frames that we've blown through,
Speaker 1: Like we ran the stop sign. We didn't even didn't
Speaker 1: even stop. We didn't pause because we keep thinking we're America,
Speaker 1: we'll get this done. We of course we're not going
Speaker 1: to stop playing sports. There's other things that we've stopped
Speaker 1: doing aside from stop playing sports. And that's where if
Speaker 1: we'd have the patience to say are we safe? All
Speaker 1: it takes is one person, one athlete, and here we
Speaker 1: go again. Imagine the NBA comes back, they got all
Speaker 1: these safety guidelines in place. One guy that's positive. Then
Speaker 1: you got a Rudy Gobert situation again, shut it all down.
Speaker 1: Baseball trying to come back. We're gonna quarantine you. Hey,
Speaker 1: you got to stay in this city for four months.
Speaker 1: You got to stay in that city. You're gonna stay
Speaker 1: in Florida for that amount of time. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's crazy, really is. Mike Trout said, Look, my wife's pregnant.
Speaker 1: I'm going to be self quarantined. I can't even go
Speaker 1: for the birth of my first child. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of things we're trying to think, and we're doing it
Speaker 1: in real time. We're doing it in front of people,
Speaker 1: whether it's on the radio or on TV. We're discussing
Speaker 1: what if hypotheticals. I get it, but it's dangerous when
Speaker 1: you have an arbitrary time frame because then we think, okay,
Speaker 1: basketball is coming back. Wait May eighth, So let's say
Speaker 1: we give them a month. So June eighth, we're probably
Speaker 1: playing basketball, right, I would say probably not if you
Speaker 1: get basketball, are you going to do basketball? Where we
Speaker 1: do a march madness like they're all kinds of proposals
Speaker 1: on the table. In fact, everything's on the table, all
Speaker 1: of these leagues, everything's on the table. And we'll talk
Speaker 1: to Jeff passon the ESPN Baseball Insider coming up in
Speaker 1: about twenty five minutes, just to get his thoughts on
Speaker 1: how is baseball going to pull this off. Golf will
Speaker 1: come back before any other sport does, and that's going
Speaker 1: to be the first week in June. But you can
Speaker 1: practice social distancing when you're playing golf. It's you and
Speaker 1: your caddy and you don't have to have anybody else
Speaker 1: out there. I get that, you know. I was told
Speaker 1: by somebody who covers tennis. He said, hey, I know
Speaker 1: you brought up tennis that you could have social distancing.
Speaker 1: What about the tennis balls? If you're holding onto it,
Speaker 1: then your opponent holds onto it like there's there's things
Speaker 1: that you don't even think of because I thought, well, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm on my side of the net, you're on your
Speaker 1: side of the net. We don't even have a ball
Speaker 1: boy out there, he said, but you're still going to
Speaker 1: have You're going to be touching the tennis balls, and
Speaker 1: so were your opponent. I said, I didn't think of that.
Speaker 1: So every time we go, I got an idea, here's
Speaker 1: my solution. And then you realize there's gonna be potholes
Speaker 1: in every one of these I plead with these leagues,
Speaker 1: these commissioners, patients, really patience. All right, mcleum and what
Speaker 1: kind of poll question do you have Wow, I have
Speaker 1: a bunch of light whole questions. Chet's go after that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can lighten it up a little bit here. Well,
Speaker 1: let's talk about Cam Newton, if that's okay. The released
Speaker 1: Vegas odds on where he might go. Which team of
Speaker 1: these in the odds would you go to if you
Speaker 1: were Cam Newton? I'll give you the Patriots, the Jaguars,
Speaker 1: the Steelers, the Broncos, the Bears, the Raiders, and the Redskins.
Speaker 1: I would look at the Patriots first and foremost, because
Speaker 1: if I'm Cam, I'm going in to compete for a
Speaker 1: starting job. He's not a backup quarterback. Jameis Winston needs
Speaker 1: to be a backup quarterback. I just don't think Cam's
Speaker 1: ego would allow him to be a great backup quarterback.
Speaker 1: And by that I mean is he all in and
Speaker 1: helping the starting quarterback? Would he go to Jacksonville and
Speaker 1: say Gardner Minshew, I'm right here for you to make
Speaker 1: you better. I just don't see him. And Jacksonville would
Speaker 1: be another place that I would have him go, because
Speaker 1: he might if you let him compete for the starting job. Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: no Bronchos, no Raiders, no. See. I think the Redskins
Speaker 1: are gonna give Duwayne Haskins one more year, and if
Speaker 1: they're one of the worst teams, then maybe Justin Fields
Speaker 1: is going to be the guy they draft. That's just
Speaker 1: a feeling I have with that. If you go to
Speaker 1: the Redskins with Ron Rivera, then you have to let
Speaker 1: Cam compete for the job. And I can't imagine if
Speaker 1: he's healthy that Cam would let Dwayne Haskins beat him out.
Speaker 1: I would start with the Patriots because of the upside.
Speaker 1: You might be playing in a super Bowl and you
Speaker 1: might have a chance to win that starting job Jacksonville
Speaker 1: if they give you a chance to compete with Gardner Minshew.
Speaker 1: The Steelers, no Bronchos are set on their quarterback. The
Speaker 1: Bears got Folds as well with Trubisky. That's a little
Speaker 1: bit of a mess. The Raiders with Mariota and Carr.
Speaker 1: You know, you go in there, that's a mess. The Redskins,
Speaker 1: you could go in as long as you get that
Speaker 1: commitment from Ron Rivera to say, hey, Cam, we're gonna
Speaker 1: let you compete for the job, because the other places
Speaker 1: he would go in and they would say your job
Speaker 1: is a backup quarterback there. Yeah, Paul I was going
Speaker 1: to throw out the Redskins, but then that may make
Speaker 1: the least sense for the Redskins. They probably can't compete
Speaker 1: in this division. Even with Cam Newton, they would probably be,
Speaker 1: you know, at best, like an eight and eight team.
Speaker 1: And if you stick with Dwayne Haskins, you find out
Speaker 1: what he is and if he's terrible, you get the
Speaker 1: number one pick in the draft next year and all assault. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that that would be the approach I would
Speaker 1: have that Ron Rivera is going to want his quarterback
Speaker 1: unless he goes man, I'm all in on Dwayne Haskins.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that conversation was like when they said, Hey,
Speaker 1: Daniel Snyder talking to Ron Rivera, you want to be
Speaker 1: our coach. Hey, I'm not sold on the quarterback that
Speaker 1: you the owner hand picked for your team to take
Speaker 1: in the draft. I'm gonna guess he's gonna go, Hey,
Speaker 1: can we give Duayne another year and let me see
Speaker 1: if we're gonna make progress and then we can make
Speaker 1: that decision. Because if they have the second worst record
Speaker 1: in football, which is a real possibility, then are you
Speaker 1: on the clock for a quarterback. You're not going to
Speaker 1: get the best quarterback in the draft because it feels
Speaker 1: like Jacksonville is going to be in that place. But
Speaker 1: Cam's gonna get signed by somebody. I just don't know
Speaker 1: if he if he's going to go in and say
Speaker 1: I'll be a backup quarterback. Yeah, McLevin. What about a
Speaker 1: situation like Pittsburgh where Ben is thirty eight and then
Speaker 1: Cam could sit a year, get healthier and then take
Speaker 1: over like kind of like Jamis might do in in
Speaker 1: New Orleans. I thought Pittsburgh was gonna take a quarterback.
Speaker 1: I thought they were gonna like Jalen Hurts was going
Speaker 1: to be a quarterback that they would have taken. And
Speaker 1: maybe they would have, you know, the Eagles. It's now
Speaker 1: reported that the Eagles said, hey, we missed on Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: We don't want to miss on another quarterback like that.
Speaker 1: That's why they took Jalen Hurts. Whether that's true or not.
Speaker 1: Inn't it amazing how many teams we're gonna take Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: But I always say, you had your chance. You went
Speaker 1: through a couple of rounds and you had your chance.
Speaker 1: Like everybody. Yeah, we hey, we knew we were hoping
Speaker 1: to get him, like Dak Prescott. You know, we had
Speaker 1: a high grade on Dak press You had your chance
Speaker 1: and everybody had their chance with that. Yeah, McLevin, Well,
Speaker 1: people ripped. The Seahawks were saying their geniuses. They did
Speaker 1: take him in the third round, so they passed on
Speaker 1: him twice too. You know, Russell, Well, I know you
Speaker 1: just have these gms you go. You know, I was
Speaker 1: thinking we were going to you know, I was told
Speaker 1: that we couldn't. Yeah, it's it feels like it's a
Speaker 1: little revisionist history there. Yeah, you can go back to
Speaker 1: the twenty twelve draft. Leading up to it, Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: was considered a high end backup. They're looking at him
Speaker 1: as a really heady player, great scrambler, an improviser, a
Speaker 1: guy who led two programs to you know, pretty good heights.
Speaker 1: He was not considered a possible starter. You could go
Speaker 1: through everyone's draft profile. I know, it's funny how that works,
Speaker 1: where you'd go, really, everybody knew this after the fact,
Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna have this with this draft here,
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna say, hey, I told you, Jordan Love great
Speaker 1: pick by the Packard. Now it won't be me because
Speaker 1: I'm already on record as saying no, not a good
Speaker 1: pick by the Packers. Yeah, seton. I remember at the
Speaker 1: time thinking, man, I just hope Russell gets a chance. Well,
Speaker 1: we liked him because we had him on the show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: right exactly, And that was I didn't have any crystal
Speaker 1: ball where I go Russell Wilson's gonna be a great
Speaker 1: pro like Kirk Cousins. I thought, all right, you know,
Speaker 1: we like him, maybe you'll get a chance. But I
Speaker 1: never was like, you gotta take Russell Wilson. He's a
Speaker 1: leader and Kirk Cousins he's going to be a starter
Speaker 1: in the end of it. We were I felt terrible
Speaker 1: for KIRKD. Cousins when he got drafted by the Redskins
Speaker 1: because I came in on that Monday and I go,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I got drafted by the Redskins. When
Speaker 1: they took RG three, He's never gonna play and Russell
Speaker 1: is in the same boat. Because they just spent a
Speaker 1: boatload of money on Matt Flynn. You thought, oh, he's
Speaker 1: coming into a backup for Matt Flynn, the new direction
Speaker 1: of the franchise. Yeah, McClellan, I remember you took us
Speaker 1: to the Big ten title game where Kirk Cousins and
Speaker 1: Russell played each other and they were both throwing fifty
Speaker 1: yard bombs left and right. I'm like, wait, these guys,
Speaker 1: our first round quarterbacks, Why are they throwing fifty yard
Speaker 1: touchdowns every play? That was a great game, great performance
Speaker 1: out of both of those guys. But you know, we
Speaker 1: tend to root for guys that we have on when
Speaker 1: they're in college and then you follow them in the NFL.
Speaker 1: But we had no idea. You know, we're right there
Speaker 1: with everybody else. But you start to hear this revisionist history,
Speaker 1: and we'll probably hear that with Jalen Hurts. Somebody's gonna
Speaker 1: say what a great pick, or that wasn't a great pick,
Speaker 1: or it could be somebody taken later in the draft
Speaker 1: where you know Jake from Yeah, you know we were
Speaker 1: gonna take him in the sixth round. Yeah you know
Speaker 1: we thought he'd fall right too. Yeah, okay, right, I
Speaker 1: hear you. All right, We're gonna settle on a poll
Speaker 1: question there, mclevn. Yeah, I'm gonna put up that Cam
Speaker 1: Newton poll which team should sign him? I mean, I
Speaker 1: think there's a fair question. If you were Cam, where
Speaker 1: would you go but I don't know that he has
Speaker 1: all the choices. I want to put up which team
Speaker 1: should sign him with the top six Vegas odds, because
Speaker 1: this is really as a starter, and the Vegas odds
Speaker 1: have the Patriots number one? Yeah, and who's number two? Jackson,
Speaker 1: want to have it in front of me. I think
Speaker 1: the Jags are number two? Yeah, Jags number two. Then Steelers, Broncos, Bears, Raels, Redskins, Well, Steelers, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: like you said, they need another quarterback in that death chart. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he's he's not a He's not Duck Devlin, like,
Speaker 1: he's not Mason Rudolph. This is Cam Newton. Here is
Speaker 1: that the problem? He's gonna be better than half the
Speaker 1: starters he goes into. If he's healthy, he's way better
Speaker 1: than a lot of these guys. But don't you want
Speaker 1: somebody who If I'm bringing you in and you are
Speaker 1: better than my starter, then you've made my team better.
Speaker 1: You don't go God, I hope he's not better than
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew. I'd mean, look at the Bears with Trubisky.
Speaker 1: You can't possibly have Cam Newton backing up Mitchell Trubisky
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. But you got Nick Foles. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: not bringing him in. Now, if you didn't have Nick
Speaker 1: Foles and you brought in Cam, Cam could win that job.
Speaker 1: The Bears want to see Mitchell Trubisky one more year
Speaker 1: and then they're going to make a decision. Now the
Speaker 1: fans have already made up their mind. But but there's
Speaker 1: a couple of quarterbacks here. Gardner Minshew gets one more chance.
Speaker 1: You know, this year, I think Baker Mayfield is on
Speaker 1: the clock in Cleveland because with their draft, with that talent,
Speaker 1: I don't know how great Stefanski is going to be
Speaker 1: as a head coach. But Baker Mayfield running out of
Speaker 1: excuses here. The Cleveland Browns have talent and should should
Speaker 1: be a playoff team, and you know, so you're gonna
Speaker 1: get that. Sam Darnold is this maybe his year? You
Speaker 1: get one more year after this before you go. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he's our franchise quarterback. Here. Mariota and Winston,
Speaker 1: you know, they got their chance. They proved that they
Speaker 1: weren't starting quarterbacks. Now they might get better, learn and
Speaker 1: come back and having Ryan Tannehill research. But that's the
Speaker 1: way the quarterbacking position is. I'm gonna take you can
Speaker 1: you start. Can I get that rookie contract. If so, great,
Speaker 1: now we build our team. If not, I got a
Speaker 1: two year window, maybe three at the most. And then
Speaker 1: you say, all right, you're not our future. Now we
Speaker 1: got a draft another quarterback. Yeah, point, you were going
Speaker 1: to talk about that twenty twelve draft. If you look
Speaker 1: at the career passing yardage for the two twelve draft
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks taken, it's really fascinating. Russell Wilson is by
Speaker 1: far number one, Then it's Cousins, then it's Tannehill, then
Speaker 1: Luck who's done. Nick Foles is fifth in yardage for
Speaker 1: his career and he's got a super Bowl ring, an MVP.
Speaker 1: Robert Griffin, who is a star, is sixth, in Osweiler seventh.
Speaker 1: That's a fascinating draft, but it just goes to show
Speaker 1: you it's an inexact science when you take that, when
Speaker 1: you draft that position you got. You got fourth round
Speaker 1: picks there, third round picks there, a number one overall.
Speaker 1: Nick Foles was a third RG three, first round link.
Speaker 1: It's it's really who you get with your offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: the talent around you. It's not just the quarterback himself.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll take a break we'll come back. We'll
Speaker 1: talk a little bit more about the Bulls documentary and
Speaker 1: when Michael Jordan decided that he was going to do
Speaker 1: the documentary. The day that he decided to do the
Speaker 1: documentary just a coincidence or calculated by Michael. Twenty one
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Speaker 1: s R. Jeff Passon from the mother Ship says, we
Speaker 1: will have baseball this year. We'll talk to him about
Speaker 1: what is the latest plan and how it works the
Speaker 1: pist At least some of the Marquis players feel like
Speaker 1: they're on a apology tour. Isaiah Thomas is Bill Lane Beer.
Speaker 1: Bill Lane Beer is not apologizing for anything, and I
Speaker 1: love that Isaiah for some reason is apologizing for how
Speaker 1: he treated Michael Jordan and uh, you know in the
Speaker 1: Chicago Bulls. And I'll have that for you coming up
Speaker 1: in a little bit I want to make sure we
Speaker 1: have time for Jeff Passon talk about this baseball stuff.
Speaker 1: But Isaiah was on ESPN talking about this Bill Lane Beer,
Speaker 1: the former NBA player with the Bad Boys. Your nickname
Speaker 1: was the Bad Boys. You don't apologize. It'd be like,
Speaker 1: you're there, the Hell's Angels, man, We're really sorry, we
Speaker 1: might have done some bad things there. You're the Hell's Angel.
Speaker 1: The Pistons were the Hell's Angels of basketball. They took
Speaker 1: no prisoners, they made no apologies, and and you know what,
Speaker 1: the fact that they passed the blame onto the Celtics
Speaker 1: and said, well, the Celtics did it to us. Maybe
Speaker 1: they did, and maybe they were actually being truthful when
Speaker 1: they said we were not going to stay on the
Speaker 1: floor with the game not in question any longer and
Speaker 1: be engulfed by these Pistons fans. Maybe maybe, maybe, maybe
Speaker 1: I will say this though, Isaiah Thomas reportedly reached out
Speaker 1: to the Celtics, and it might have been Kevin McHale
Speaker 1: to ask him, how do we get past you? And
Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing here. He wanted to know because they kept
Speaker 1: running into the Celtics and they couldn't beat the Celtics,
Speaker 1: and Isaiah wanted to know how to beat the Celtics.
Speaker 1: And I think that he talked to Kevin McHale about this.
Speaker 1: And you'll see after that series is over, Isaiah is
Speaker 1: walking with Kevin McHale off the floor. So I don't
Speaker 1: know what Isaiah Saul felt thought. But if I'm the
Speaker 1: bulls old to grudge, because if I'm Michael hold of grudge,
Speaker 1: it's Michael, Like, I'm not surprised with any of this.
Speaker 1: I mean, Michael wasn't a good guy on the floor, folks.
Speaker 1: He was a spectacular player, he wasn't a good guy.
Speaker 1: He would hold grudges whether it was with teammates or opponents.
Speaker 1: He wasn't easy to get along with. He had his
Speaker 1: own agenda there. But what he did on the basketball
Speaker 1: floor was what set him apart. And the Pistons don't
Speaker 1: make apologies. You're the Pistons. That's the last thing I
Speaker 1: want to hear. And don't do a sob story or
Speaker 1: we should feel sorry for you either. You're the Pistons.
Speaker 1: You know this is mean spirited that we have to
Speaker 1: keep talking about this. No, you're the Pistons. You earned it.
Speaker 1: They beat you. You don't want to shake there. Would
Speaker 1: I'd like to have seen them as sportsman, Yes, I would,
Speaker 1: But back then there was no sportsmanship. It was great TV.
Speaker 1: I wanted to mean something. I wanted it to hurt.
Speaker 1: I wanted you to carry that grudge. I'm still angry
Speaker 1: over something that happened in my senior year in high school.
Speaker 1: Get into Oakwood lumber Jack's. Those jerks they played a
Speaker 1: box in one on me. Nobody could guard me one
Speaker 1: on one. I'm still angry over that, and I'll carry
Speaker 1: it to my grave. I will. It'll be on my
Speaker 1: my if those Oakwood lumber Jack they probably love the
Speaker 1: fact that it's I'm they're still in my head, but
Speaker 1: they are. They're renting space in my head guarding me
Speaker 1: with a box in one. Shameful bush Lee, Yeah, soft,
Speaker 1: All right, we'll talk a little bit more about this.
Speaker 1: We'll hear from Isaiah and Bill lane Bier. That'll be
Speaker 1: coming up. Jeff passing the ESPN Baseball Insider and caught
Speaker 1: my attention. Apparently we're gonna have baseball this year. Jeff,
Speaker 1: I'm all ears. When are we having? By small it's
Speaker 1: a great question answers. I have no idea and thanks
Speaker 1: for coming on, Jeff, we'll talk to you later. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, d it has been great. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much as always for having what's the latest plan?
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny the people at Major League Baseball, well,
Speaker 1: they don't like talking about plans, which is which is
Speaker 1: odd because to go forward, you need a plan, right
Speaker 1: You need a plan. You need to have it well
Speaker 1: laid out, you need to execute it. You need to
Speaker 1: understand that they're going to be flaws in it, they
Speaker 1: are going to be stumbles along the way. No plan
Speaker 1: goes according to plan, and the fact that they haven't
Speaker 1: committed to one yet it's part of the process that
Speaker 1: they're going through right now now. I don't know if
Speaker 1: this is the right approach to take. You know, some
Speaker 1: would argue that you settle on a plan early and
Speaker 1: you do everything you can to make it work. But
Speaker 1: I think that what Baseball sees right now is a
Speaker 1: landscape that we don't understand. We have no idea what
Speaker 1: next week is going to be like. We have no
Speaker 1: idea what next month is going to be like. And
Speaker 1: because of that, their plan is to give themselves flexibility
Speaker 1: and work on all the details surrounding it. That will
Speaker 1: no matter what they choose, whether it is going to
Speaker 1: a biosphere in Arizona or going to a three city
Speaker 1: hub plan where they have people stationed in Phoenix metropolitan area,
Speaker 1: Dallas Metropolitan Area and Campus Saint Pete area, or doing
Speaker 1: a five city plan where you add Miami in Houston
Speaker 1: to the mix. No matter what they do, they need
Speaker 1: to have testing, for example, and they need to have
Speaker 1: umpires in particular places, and they need all these logistical things.
Speaker 1: And that's the stuff they're trying to take care of now.
Speaker 1: So when they do figure out what the best plan is,
Speaker 1: they can execute it all right. But you say, and
Speaker 1: you're quoted, there will be baseball in twenty twenty. Yes,
Speaker 1: and I do believe. I do believe. I do believe that.
Speaker 1: And I believe that because I think all of the
Speaker 1: parties involved are extremely motivated to have baseball in some
Speaker 1: form or fashion. I also think that because maybe I'm
Speaker 1: trying to be optimistic in this time where optimism is
Speaker 1: in short supply, but I'm not allowing that optimism to
Speaker 1: guide me to this place where baseball coming back is
Speaker 1: not realistic. I just you know, I see the country reopening,
Speaker 1: and I know that We're going to have stumbles along
Speaker 1: the way, and I understand that that's part of it.
Speaker 1: But I also think there's a recognition that getting back
Speaker 1: to life like some form of what we had before
Speaker 1: coronavirus is an imperative, and in that baseball is going
Speaker 1: to be a part of that. It's not going to
Speaker 1: be a part of that with fans in all likelihood,
Speaker 1: but I think there is there's very there's a very
Speaker 1: reasonable way that games can be played under a variety
Speaker 1: of circumstances, and it's just a matter of Baseball figuring
Speaker 1: out which one suits all of the parties involved best.
Speaker 1: I'm also wondering, though, how many games that is there
Speaker 1: a if we can't get this many games in, then
Speaker 1: we can't have a season. There is there an amount
Speaker 1: that they're they're looking at. If you had asked me
Speaker 1: that question two or three weeks ago, I would have said, yes,
Speaker 1: I think there's a sort of a point at which
Speaker 1: the season is not penable. I don't think that's the
Speaker 1: case anymore. I think MLB right now and the players
Speaker 1: are considering every possibility. And there was one in the
Speaker 1: column that I wrote yesterday that I just sort of
Speaker 1: like Honestly, when I was just sitting there, I dropped
Speaker 1: up a tournament and it was based on the fact
Speaker 1: that an official state, if you know something to the effective,
Speaker 1: give us sixty days, we could put on a hell
Speaker 1: of a tournament. And I think that that's true if it,
Speaker 1: you know, would it be like a championship season, No,
Speaker 1: but would it be something that could be different and
Speaker 1: compelling and still baseball? Like that's that right there, Dan,
Speaker 1: I think is what people in the sport are banking
Speaker 1: on at this point, that some baseball is better than
Speaker 1: no baseball, and whatever format it takes, we're just going
Speaker 1: to embrace it. You get one question for the commissioner,
Speaker 1: and he'll answer, what would it be one's opening day?
Speaker 1: Good to talk to you, Jeff. Keep that optimistic column coming,
Speaker 1: by the way, and I'm curious to hear your take
Speaker 1: on this. Do do you think the optimism is unwarranted?
Speaker 1: And do you think there's going to be baseball this year?
Speaker 1: I don't know, Jeff, and I just spent fifteen minutes
Speaker 1: starting the show where I don't like where we have
Speaker 1: these arbitrary dates where we go, hey, NBA facilities opening
Speaker 1: up May first, and then they come back and say
Speaker 1: now it's May eighth. I think it's dangerous when we
Speaker 1: do this with our sports leagues because it trickles out
Speaker 1: to what we do every day. I think it gives
Speaker 1: us this false sense of Hey, things are getting better here.
Speaker 1: I don't know that. And I think we want sports
Speaker 1: to come back. It doesn't happen magically just because we
Speaker 1: stomp our foot and say I want my sports back.
Speaker 1: It doesn't work that way. And I thought the commissioner
Speaker 1: Adam Silver did the right thing a month ago when
Speaker 1: he said I'm not going to put out any dates there,
Speaker 1: and then he comes out and puts out a date
Speaker 1: of May first. Now it's May eighth. I don't know
Speaker 1: if the NBA comes back. I've always I thought all
Speaker 1: along that it wouldn't Baseball. I could think, maybe you
Speaker 1: get now a truncated sixty game season. College fall I
Speaker 1: think is going to be pushed back. I think the
Speaker 1: NFL is going to be pushed back a little bit.
Speaker 1: I'm being I want to be optimistic, but I also
Speaker 1: have to be realistic. And that's really if we still
Speaker 1: have a second before break. Let me let me come
Speaker 1: in here and tell you why I think the date
Speaker 1: thing actually has been good. I think it's I think
Speaker 1: it has shown that these leagues can be judicious. If
Speaker 1: leagues were trying to get back at all costs, they
Speaker 1: would be setting extraordinarily aggressive dates and trying to push
Speaker 1: for them. They would be bypassing public health protocols and standards.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't have a meeting today with the White House
Speaker 1: and their public health experts that they have hired. The
Speaker 1: worst thing that could possibly happen to any league is
Speaker 1: for it to come back and have it fail. And
Speaker 1: I think we have to understand that that is the
Speaker 1: great emergency break here that is going to prevent them
Speaker 1: from coming back before it's time. Can they push, can
Speaker 1: they talk about it? Can they give us hope? Can
Speaker 1: they give us optimism? Is it false? Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: all of those things are true. But I think when
Speaker 1: it's all said and done, the most important thing here
Speaker 1: is that the decisions are made in concert with health
Speaker 1: experts and not for poor reasons like profit. Like if
Speaker 1: we can get to that point, that's where I, as
Speaker 1: a sports consumer and as a human being, feel good
Speaker 1: about the way that this has been handled. I just
Speaker 1: don't like when we talk about jump starting the economy
Speaker 1: and we use sports because fans aren't going to be
Speaker 1: going to the games. That's how you jump start the
Speaker 1: economy in the world as sports. If we're going to
Speaker 1: bring back sports, then bring it back. Don't bring it
Speaker 1: back while we're pushing the envelopes in. We got to
Speaker 1: jump start the economy here. That's dangerous, that's careless, that's reckless.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, I think that sports can be part
Speaker 1: of it, and I think we have to, you know,
Speaker 1: I think one thing we have to understand now, man,
Speaker 1: is just how different the new normal is going to be,
Speaker 1: and how we have to adjust to these very weird
Speaker 1: states of affairs where people look at sports as something
Speaker 1: that can jump start the economy. I don't even know
Speaker 1: if it's jumpstart the economy so much as it is
Speaker 1: bring some semblance of normalcy back to life. And it
Speaker 1: is a hard thing for anyone to do. But sports
Speaker 1: has always been that very unifying figure in this country,
Speaker 1: and I think that's why people want to look at
Speaker 1: it because in a time of discomfort, what is sports
Speaker 1: if not comfort? Jeff, thank you, we'll talk soon. Pleasures
Speaker 1: mind Dan, thank you well, Buddy, Jeff Passing. ESPN Baseball
Speaker 1: Insider I understand what he's saying. I just get back
Speaker 1: to just being realistic about all of this, because sports
Speaker 1: is about hope, dreams, optimistic. You want to be passionate
Speaker 1: about it, all of those things we all want that
Speaker 1: it just doesn't happen like that. This isn't a movie.
Speaker 1: This is a documentary. It's different. We'll take a break,
Speaker 1: we'll come back. We'll hear from Isaiah Thomas, Bill Lane
Speaker 1: Beer on the apology tour following the Bulls documentary after this.
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Speaker 1: com slash The Dan Patrick Show. A month before the draft,
Speaker 1: I don't think you had Cam going number one overall,
Speaker 1: at least I don't remember that. McLevin. Do you remember
Speaker 1: if Cam was a shoe in to be the number
Speaker 1: one overall pick in twenty five? Kind of a sore
Speaker 1: subject in, Oh, that's right, didn't you have? I had Blabbert.
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's got to be playing Gabbert and it's
Speaker 1: represented by CIA, and then I got a note from
Speaker 1: Ryank gil Brand saying it's Cam Newton in like March
Speaker 1: forgot gil knew already forgot all about then sorry. Yeah, no.
Speaker 1: The mocks had a lot of other quarterbacks. Jake Locker
Speaker 1: was one. Remember that year. That's when everybody and I
Speaker 1: liken this too. You go into a bar at nine
Speaker 1: o'clock at night and you're surveying the situation if you're single,
Speaker 1: and you go, oh, she's pretty, and she's pretty, and
Speaker 1: she's pretty. That draft it reminded me of the guy
Speaker 1: at one in the morning who goes, gotta get somebody
Speaker 1: here to go home with me. I'll take you, and
Speaker 1: everybody went crazy. It's like Jake Locker's off the board,
Speaker 1: Blaine Gabbert's off the board. Like it started going, wait,
Speaker 1: why has everybody got this run on quarterbacks right now?
Speaker 1: And none of those quarterbacks you know they were able
Speaker 1: to stick. Yeah, Polly, I've got four different mock drafts
Speaker 1: within two months of the twenty eleven draft, and none
Speaker 1: of them had Cam Newton going number one of the Panthers.
Speaker 1: A lot of them had Gabbert, some of them had
Speaker 1: Cam Newton dropping to the Titans around seven or eighth pick,
Speaker 1: which I think was Locker. Correct, Locker went to Tennessee. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think maybe or that was his number. No, I
Speaker 1: can't find a mock draft with Cam Newton number one
Speaker 1: unless you're talking about a week before the draft, yes, Levin. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the funny thing is, I think Annie Dalton Kaepernick
Speaker 1: went in the second round that year and hit big
Speaker 1: and Ponder failed like the second round. Yeah, I might
Speaker 1: have the years wrong, but the second round was really
Speaker 1: good that year too. Check and see. I love Dalton
Speaker 1: coming out of college but only because of was it
Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl appearance when he when he faced Wisconsin
Speaker 1: and they he actually was outsmarting Wisconsin's defense there, and
Speaker 1: I go, that guy looks like he's really good and
Speaker 1: I and I remember going, I like Dalton, I think
Speaker 1: more than any of the other quarterbacks in that draft. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Paul or up mclevitt. Yeah, I remember that because you
Speaker 1: were so excited to watch JJ Watt. Dominated talked about that,
Speaker 1: It's like this could be the JJ Watt game, and
Speaker 1: they were like they avoided him, they were running at
Speaker 1: It felt like they were running at JJ Watt because
Speaker 1: that's the best way to go after a guy who has,
Speaker 1: you know, great ability to pursue a play. You go
Speaker 1: at him, so we can't, you know, run after you.
Speaker 1: And I thought, and I came in after that game
Speaker 1: and I go Andy Dalton was great, and I thought, man,
Speaker 1: he and then you start to see, well, he's not
Speaker 1: a first round draft pick. And I thought, God, the
Speaker 1: Bengals got a great draft pick here, they got Andy Dalton.
Speaker 1: You know, I was right there with you with my
Speaker 1: man crush on Andy Dalton. Fritzie's got his scoreboard, by
Speaker 1: the way, every day he does this. The numbers are
Speaker 1: sixty seven and one. We need some hints here, By
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Speaker 1: All right, Todd, hint, just a hint for sixty seven
Speaker 1: and one. The clue is taken away and taking flight,
Speaker 1: taken away and taking flight right, taken away, taken away
Speaker 1: or taken that taken away? Taken this like Liam Neeson,
Speaker 1: not quite luckily a metha. I will find you, I
Speaker 1: will hunt you down and I will kill you. This
Speaker 1: is taken away, and both of these are this dating histories. Okay,
Speaker 1: I have one. Now, you've already told people that you're
Speaker 1: basically you're basing this off of this day in sports history.
Speaker 1: Not always, but today is that's one of the hints.
Speaker 1: If because he said it's been getting too hard, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to well, no, I'm I'm okay with it as
Speaker 1: long as it's something that you can figure out and
Speaker 1: you're fair to people. I think this is I think
Speaker 1: this one is very reasonable, right, I already have one
Speaker 1: of them. Yeah. Yeah. The other one taken away, that's
Speaker 1: a little trickier, but I haven't I haven't seen this
Speaker 1: dain sports history. And if I saw this day in
Speaker 1: sports history, probably which would be cheating, but I guess
Speaker 1: you kind of have to do. No one knows off
Speaker 1: the top of the head everything that happened. Wait, how's
Speaker 1: it cheating If you're somebody who's watching or listening, you
Speaker 1: just say this day in sports history and you yeah,
Speaker 1: then I guess you couldn't do that, but it will
Speaker 1: be really amazing if you're able to off the top
Speaker 1: of your head. No, that's not how this works. Take
Speaker 1: it away. It's a good thing that we don't do
Speaker 1: the This Day in Sports History show before this one,
Speaker 1: because then that would that segment we do at the
Speaker 1: end of the show, This This Day in Sports History
Speaker 1: we do first? Ye when the final segment of the
Speaker 1: show this Dan Sports History. Yes, nine years ago when
Speaker 1: I started This Day in Sports History, I knew someday
Speaker 1: Todd would do the scoreboard thing and do it earlier
Speaker 1: in the show, so I better do it late. Okay,
Speaker 1: he's very bright like that. He knew what was coming. Mcleven.
Speaker 1: Did you settle on a pull question? You got the
Speaker 1: results from the first tower? Yeah? Who should sign Cam Newton?
Speaker 1: The Patriots or the runaway winner with the Jaguars being second? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get that. If I'm Jacksonville, I'm I'm looking at
Speaker 1: already tanking. You know. Do I want Cam Newton in there?
Speaker 1: And I would say no, Now he can help you
Speaker 1: this year, because maybe he could beat out Gardner. Shoot,
Speaker 1: but this is all about next year with Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, mcclevin.
Speaker 1: Same question for the Patriots, how do we know they're
Speaker 1: not tanking? I don't think Belichick does that. I just don't,
Speaker 1: especially after what just happened this offseason that the Patriots
Speaker 1: aren't tanking. That's just not in Bill's DNA. He's got
Speaker 1: too much pride where you know, he's not gonna go
Speaker 1: out there and go, hey, I don't have a good
Speaker 1: product out because it's it's reflective of him, because he's
Speaker 1: your GM and your coach. It's not like where you go, Hey,
Speaker 1: you left me with nothing here. You know, Doug Morone
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville is going, we don't have anything here. Hey,
Speaker 1: shut up, Doug. We'll have something next year for you. Yeah, Fritzie,
Speaker 1: he won't slip up into Prescott's say we're onto Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1: That's plus one for Fritzie today, plus one. All right,
Speaker 1: coming up, Bob Saggett's gonna stop by. We'll hear from Bill,
Speaker 1: Laye Beer and Isaiah Thomas as well. When our in
Speaker 1: the Books Dan Patrick Show