1 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature feature production of I Heart Radio. I'm 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: You're a host of many parasites. Katie Golden. I studied 3 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: psychology and evolutionary biology and Happy Valentine's Times. Today, I 4 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: thought that we'd look at a different type of love, 5 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: platonic love between species. That's right. We're looking at some 6 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: cross species cuddles, some dynamic duos, and truly unusual friendships 7 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: within the animal kingdom to discover this is more as 8 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: we answer the angel question is it fun to suck 9 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: on a shark? So let's take a trip down to 10 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: imagination station. Imagine you're a tiny, adorable, helpless frog living 11 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: in Peru. You're smaller than a leaf. You're dwarfed by 12 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: the many large creatures who want to devour you. Carefully, 13 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: you make your way across the leafy forest floor, flinching 14 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: at every sound. Your tiny legs can't carry you too fast. 15 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: You can hop all right, but not enough to outrun 16 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: a swift predator. So you waddle around gingerly, searching for ants, 17 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: doing your best impression of a dead leaf so you 18 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: don't get hassled. You're munching on a particularly tasty ant, 19 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: when if you had hairs on the back of your neck, 20 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: which you don't you're a frog, but you'd feel them prickle. Suddenly, 21 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: in a flash, two huge black, hairy legs grab you 22 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: and lift you into a set of gigantic hairy mandibles. 23 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: This creature tastes you, tossing you around, and its jaws 24 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: like a breath mint. You can feel it's pettipalps clamped 25 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: down on you in let you go. You look up 26 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: and realize it's your best friend in the whole wide world, 27 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: a giant tarantula. She invites you into her din and 28 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: you too, share a cozy day together. Been that ended 29 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: so much nicer than I thought it would be. Yeah, 30 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: usually the imagination stations in with horrible death, but this 31 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: time it's friendship. Well, how else is a friendship supposed 32 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: to start unless one of you winds up wholly in 33 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: the other's mouth. So that's kind of how I make 34 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: all my friends, of course, speaking of which, joining me 35 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: today is comedian writer and actor Blake Wexler. Thank you, 36 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: thank you for having coming in. I mean, I think 37 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: we're friends. I haven't tried to like devour you though, 38 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 1: that's the thing. No, no, no, And that's been very 39 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: respectful and well to be fair, I mean, you know, 40 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: I what's going on with these tarantulas is it was 41 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: testing to see whether this frog was food or friends, 42 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: and that all of a sudden, like a very ignorant thing. 43 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: You were about to say, if you sub did in 44 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 1: any other demographically, what's going on with these goddamn tarantulas 45 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: and their hairy legs. These tarantulas, let me tell you 46 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: about them. They're nice, you schues, and I think they 47 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: should be preserved. Oh very nice. Oh you're very progressive. 48 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: So tarantulas and narrow mouthed frogs have formed an unusual 49 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: alliance in Peru, Sri Lanka, India, and possibly elsewhere. I 50 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: know that's pretty generic, but we just I mean, this 51 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: is kind of a newly discovered relationship. So scientists aren't 52 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: sure how far reaching this is, these narrow malekin frogs. 53 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: It's like, can you use their proper name, police, sir? Okay, 54 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 1: they're micro Hiliday. Is that very well? Yeah, very very well. 55 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: You've done very well so far. So yeah, it is 56 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: funny how you have the scientific name micro Hiliday and 57 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: then the unofficial or not unofficial, but the colloquial colloquial 58 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: Layman's term offensive, and I know I didn't. I wasn't 59 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: trying to go with Layman's terms because it's if you're 60 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: lay you're gonna love this term, right, But the more 61 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: casual one, which is it, so it's like micro hiliday 62 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: and then casually rolt frogs, it's like so insulting. It's 63 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: like it's like Filifa day and the squinty eyed stink beest. 64 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: There's never any in between. It's always this like fancy 65 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: Latin and then and then the pooh butted, gross mud kelp, 66 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: the illiterate red beetle ugly but well so the micro Hoiliday, 67 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: these little tiny frogs form this friendship with these tarantulas, 68 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: and when they meet each other, the interaction starts out 69 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: kind of tinse. So the giant tarantula grabs the humming Oh, sorry, 70 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: these there's a specific species of microhiliday um called a 71 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: humming frog, so that's a nicer name. That's very nice. 72 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: So they'll grab the humming frog or any of these 73 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: species of micro Hoiliday. They'll move it around in its 74 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: petal palps, and the petals are the little tiny legs 75 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: out in front of its mouth and then kind of 76 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: like move it around in its mandibles and it's like 77 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: doing this checking of it and it makes this calculation 78 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: of like, wait a minute, this is my friend frog, 79 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: like this is a species of frog that I am 80 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: friends with. And then it puts it down delicately, and uh, 81 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: the frog is like, hey, buddy, like you know, good 82 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: to see you, and just skip this part going forward. 83 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: But my friend, this happens every time. Look, I do 84 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: appreciate your company. I would maybe like it if next 85 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: time you could just send me a text and not 86 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: put me in your mouth and your stinky, gross mouth 87 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: full of dead flies and stuff. A polite nod with 88 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: suffice right, like you know, a fist bump. Could we 89 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: do that a fist bump maybe, and no going in 90 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: the mouth and get all right. I went to your 91 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: daughter's all eight hundred of your daughter's weddings for Christ, 92 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: so you don't have to do this every time. So 93 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: there are actually multiple species of tarantulas and the Michael 94 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: Holaday frogs that are friend But let's start with the 95 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: dotted humming frogs, which is a specific species in Peru 96 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 1: who have worked their way into the hearts of at 97 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: least a couple of tarantula species. The exact identity of 98 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: the tarantulas is kind of under debate, but reports have 99 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: named either the Colombian lesser back tarantula, which is a 100 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: really pretty black tarantula with it's kind of near the 101 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: base of its legs, near its abdomen. It's got these 102 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: like pink splashes of color. And then there's also the 103 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: chicken spiders, which is a type of their cowards. Well, 104 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: actually they're called chicken spiders because they are rumored to 105 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: carry off baby chicks. I think that might be apocryphal, though, 106 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: I think a baby chicken might be a little too 107 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: big for these guys. Although it could it could happen occasionally. 108 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: I just don't think they make a habit of it, 109 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: because it seems kind of like a quite a mouthful floor. 110 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: These guys that they do grow up to about a 111 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: three inch diameter, so they can be quite big. But 112 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: still they're not like monsters the humming frog to give 113 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: you a sense of it, it's like this little tiny guy. 114 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: It's bodies about half an inch long, so the spiders 115 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: are over three times its size. Here's a very cute 116 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: picture of the tarantula and you see the little tiny 117 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: frog just hanging out under the tarantula, happily sitting together, 118 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: just totally relaxed because it's got it's big buddy with it. 119 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: That is, it defies like logic seeing it, right, if 120 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: you saw this photo, you would think that it's like 121 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: the yeah, that the spider has snuck up behind this 122 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: this little frog. But if you you see a video 123 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: of it, you actually will see the little frog like 124 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: turn around, see the spier be like oh hey body, 125 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: and then hop under it like like snuggle up close 126 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: to it. It's it's really cute. It looks like a 127 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: scene from Lord of the Rings. I'm not gonna go on. 128 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to spoil it. Well okay, right, Well 129 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: it'd be like if in Lord of the Rings. I 130 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: mean remember when Frodo was really stupid the entire set 131 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: of movies where he like it's like oh, spider webs 132 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: and he's like just wiggling around, flailing and getting more 133 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: spiderwebs on him and then what's what was the spider's name? Again? 134 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: At what you doing here? A proto? What is good 135 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: to see you, buddy? But yeah, it's it's like if 136 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: Sheila was like, Hey, what's up a little friend? You 137 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: wanna you want to hang out together? You know? Yeah, 138 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: And so here's what these two guys get out of 139 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: this relationship. So the frog obviously gets a huge intimidating 140 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: friend to protect it from other predators. So you have 141 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: this tiny, appetizing looking frog, and then it's got this 142 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: huge spider friend, this tarantula that is, you know, kind 143 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: of menacingly cracking its knuckles. It doesn't have knuckles, but 144 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: it's like kind of pounding one leg into the other 145 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 1: like knuckles. Yeah, not right, because each joint would probably 146 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: have a knuckling tracking all of its joints. But what 147 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: does the spider get out of it? Like that seems 148 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: less intuitive, and in fact, it's actually quite interesting because 149 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: these little frogs will protect the spiders eggs from ants. 150 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: So the spider lays eggs and one of the main 151 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: threats to these eggs are ants who will come and 152 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: attack them and carry them off or eat them. And 153 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 1: the spider or the transla is quite big, so it's 154 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: harder for it to target ants. I mean, like when 155 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: you think about like catching ants, it's hard to get 156 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: all of the ants when you're a big creature. But 157 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: with the tiny frogs, they love to eat ants and 158 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: they're small, so they can just like zoop zoop zoop, 159 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: like find all the ants and get them before they 160 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: get to the eggs. So basically they have the spiders 161 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: have an adorable little babysitter. The frogs have a huge 162 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: friend that will protect them, and they hang out together 163 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: and they like, well, like a spider will pop out 164 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: of a din and then you'll see a tiny little 165 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 1: frog face and he'll pop out of the din too, 166 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: and they'll like kind of be close together. It's it's 167 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: adorable that it's like Milo and Otis, but spider and 168 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: a frog. Okay, thank you. Yeah, I love I don't know, 169 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: I just I love that friendship. I think it's it. Also, 170 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: it humanizes the spiders a bit the tarantulas. Normally we 171 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: think of tarantulas as these just murderous murder beasts, many 172 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 1: legged murder beasts, and they are to be fair, but 173 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: they they've got a heart, they've got a soft spot 174 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: for these little frogs. And researchers, I mean, researchers are insane. 175 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: What they wanted to see anything. I mean, you might 176 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: agree with me once I tell this story. But they 177 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: skinned the little frogs and then tied their skins to 178 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: another species of frogs that the spot the trash. Yeah 179 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: see what I mean. So so they like turned these frogs, 180 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: these uh, the different species of frogs that the tarantulas 181 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: actually love to eat, and they put the skin on 182 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: of the humming frogs that there are their friends, and 183 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: made these like buffalo bill edgeen frogs, and the tarantulas 184 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: like looked them over to the same thing, like you know, 185 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: kind of palm them over in their little pet of palps, 186 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: and then they're like put them down. And so they're 187 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: sensing something on the skin, either a scent or pattern 188 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: on the skin, and then they leave them alone. But 189 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: that's so scary from like the spider's perspective. When you 190 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: think about it, like like you're like, oh, you're my friend, 191 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: and then you like squint closer, and then you there's 192 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 1: something slightly off. It's like, hey, buddy, what's wrong. It's 193 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 1: like sugar water. I don't think it's slightly off. I 194 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: don't think these researchers have mastered like reupholstering a frigging 195 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 1: frog and then another frog skin and then the frog 196 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: is like what else can it do but play along 197 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: or it's gonna get eaten. Like it's like, oh, hey, Jimmy, 198 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: get to see you. Yes, I'm Jimmy, Jesus, it's to me. 199 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: I don't want these sick not covered in another frog 200 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: skin by mysterious giants. Nope, it's fine. Well that's a 201 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: weirdly specific thing to say. But it's good to see you. Yeah, 202 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: really good to see you. And also, yeah, there's no 203 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: way a human being would ever skin a frog and 204 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: put maybe don't do that experiment, maybe skip that one. Yeah, 205 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: at what cost do you want to know? I wonder 206 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 1: if they do it the opposite way, where if they 207 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: took the I'm going to call it the yummy frog 208 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: and took its skin and put it on the friend, 209 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: that's interesting, then you would almost be sentencing it. Like today, 210 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: that's like even more you know, cruel I love I 211 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: love these sort of Jigsaw esque cruelty of it. Though, 212 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: it's like if you want to go full on, what's 213 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 1: what's that movie called the one with what's his name? Oh, Casablanca, 214 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: Tom Cruise, and then it's like about it impossible. No, 215 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: it's the one where they're evil and bad and do 216 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: weird stuff the party one, Yeah, I think so. Secrets 217 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: in the Night, I forget absolutely famous. I'm going to 218 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: cut all of this because I think it needs to stay. 219 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: Oh boy, well, it's like a movie that's bad things 220 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: happen right. Well, Tom Cruise looks like someone who's wearing 221 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: someone else's skin. A little bit, a little bit, it's 222 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: just a bunch of he's just a bunch of these 223 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: frogs wearing are human. We can act. Don't look him 224 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: right in the eye, kind of like cleans his eyeball 225 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: with his tongue. Yeah, all right, Tom, I'm fine. Yeah, 226 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: it's something in my eye. So moving on. There's been 227 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: a viral video of a coyote and a badger working together, 228 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: and I'm sure you've seen this, but let's take another 229 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: look at it, just to refresh our memory. Here. Looks 230 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: like something out of a Disney it does. I like 231 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: picturing that these two guys have been walking for like 232 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: five miles and the coyote just keeps getting, you know, 233 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: like hundreds and hundreds of feet ahead, and you finally 234 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: just turns out, come on, come on, because that magic 235 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: doesn't break stride. That badger just kind of waddles along 236 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: and the coyote is jumping around and it looks behind. 237 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: It's really cute because it's looking over its shoulder and 238 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: going like, come on, your friend, we gotta go. We 239 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: gotta go hunt some gray old squirrels in the batteries, 240 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: like I'm coming. Just oh my god, calm down, come on, 241 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: bad you friend. We gotta well. Got found this giant 242 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: too made out concrete. We can go through it. See 243 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: what we can dig my own tunnels. Why are we 244 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: going through this? It's made out of concrete. I know, 245 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: I just prefer dirt. Look it, little, I can run, 246 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: didn't you see me run? Very nice? It's very nice. 247 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: You well, So this video is not a hoax. It 248 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: was captured by the Peninsula Open Space Trust or POST, 249 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: which is a nonprofit organization that protects open natural spaces 250 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: in the South Bay of San Francisco, California, and they 251 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: use these remote sensor cameras to track the movements of 252 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: animals and see how they travel. And they found this 253 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: coyote and badger using a culvert, which is a tube 254 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: of concrete under roadways that helps drain water. And they 255 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: were using that culvert to safely cross the road, which 256 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: I think is amazing and I love I love this 257 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: video because it is I think it really gives you 258 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: the sense of Okay, so animals sometimes form these relationships, 259 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: and with a frog in a tarantula, you kind of 260 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: get the sense of like, yeah, these are like little 261 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: robots who kind of do these things that are advantageous 262 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: for their species. When you see the kiote and the 263 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: badger like the coyote excitedly like jump and like look 264 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: over children and be like come on, man, friend, I 265 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: think it shows you this transition from yeah, this is 266 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: their partnership, which I'll talk about. I'll explain why they 267 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: form this partnership and why it's advantageous, but it can also, 268 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: in my opinion, kind of transition into this area. They 269 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: genuinely enjoy each other's company as much as an animal can, 270 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: like a dog enjoys your company. Even though we've over 271 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: you know, thousands of years, formed this mutually beneficial relationship, 272 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: evolutionarily speaking, we also just like each other. So let 273 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: me talk a little bit about why coyote and badger 274 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: are such good friends. So they are in fact conspiring 275 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: together to kill some grand squirrels. So the coyote will 276 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: often come up to a badger den. In fact, one 277 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: eye witness saw coyote like knock on a badger's den 278 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: kind of like like like scritch. It's little pogast the 279 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: intro and the badger comes out and it sees it's 280 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: a coyote and they set off together to a ground 281 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: squirrels set of dens and tunnels and they will root 282 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: out the ground squirrel So the coyote and the badger 283 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: have slightly different techniques for hunting ground squirrels. The coyote 284 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: is a little bit faster when it comes to like 285 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: snatching them up when they come out of the holes, 286 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: and the badger likes to is really good at digging 287 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: these are, yeah, exactly, and it can dig the ground 288 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: squirrels up from the front of the den and it'll 289 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: just like start builving in there. And so what they 290 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 1: do is the badgers at the dim digging it up, 291 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: trying to get ground squirrels, and the coyote watches the 292 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: badger do this, and he goes off and finds an 293 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: exit hole from the den. So it finds like the 294 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: the ground squirrels emergency exit. So as the badger is 295 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: getting any of the ground squirrels that try to escape 296 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: out of its way. The coyote is getting any of 297 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: the ground squirrels that try to get out of the 298 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: emergency exit, and sometimes the badger gets a meal, sometimes 299 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: the coyote gets a meal. Sometimes they both get a 300 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: meal because they've basically cornered these squirrels. So if the 301 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: squirrel dodges the coyote by ducking back down into the 302 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: exit hole, the badger is more likely to get a 303 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: ground squirrel coming out its way. And if the squirrels 304 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: try to escape, the badger goes right towards the coyotes. 305 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: So genius dynamic duo. Do the badgers use their big 306 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: claws to like take out these ground squirrels. They both 307 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: both claws and and their mouths like they'll touch down. 308 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: I mean it is a little bit horrifying to see them. 309 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 1: I have some video of it, but but they will, 310 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: you know, the they just chew the squirrels up, like immediately, 311 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: like it's dinner time immediately. You know how people have 312 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: like in their homes, like those like picture frames. You 313 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: can upload like photos onto them of your family. I 314 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: picture in your home instead of photos, you just have 315 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: these videos of like badgers eating off squirrels heads. I'm not, 316 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: it's not, you know, it's more of a mental library 317 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: of photos, which is more vivid. The nice person I 318 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: live with probably wouldn't want photos plastered everywhere of dead animals. 319 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: You know, you got to make some compromises, that's take. 320 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's uh, it is an amazing relationship to witness, 321 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: and it's I love the video you see of them 322 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: because they're probably going off to go on a hunt together, 323 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: but it's clear they're traveling some distance together, and the 324 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: kyote looks genuinely excited and it looks um like it. 325 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: It really has this like fun friendship. Now it's harder 326 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: to read the badger's expression. I mean, badger is willingly 327 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: going along with the coyotes, so it's got to be 328 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: at least amenable to this relationship. It's hard to measure 329 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: how an excited badger other than a badger that's like 330 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: ripping your face off, but that's an excited yeah, exactly, 331 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: I do. My how I imagine their relationship is like 332 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 1: the coyotes really excited, the kind of excitable one, and 333 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: the badgers maybe a little more gruff and kind of 334 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: aloof but deep down, he really does love the coyote. 335 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: The buddies. They're great buddies, and he's like always kind 336 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,959 Speaker 1: of he's sort of the the nick Offerman sort of character, 337 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: and then uh, and the coyotes sort of the the 338 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: Leslie nope, uh, happy go lucky, Happy go lucky. Yeah, yeah, 339 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: I just love I love that dynamic. It's really cute. Yeah, 340 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: I'm picturing like a tigger in York. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, 341 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go get some grown squirrels. I get we're 342 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: going to rip their heads off. You'll probably get them all. 343 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: Coyote won't get any I don't know. I think you 344 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: can rip one. Hall. Well, now I'm a little happy 345 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: I lost my family. Badgers. Yeah, badgers have a little 346 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: stubbly tails, right right. I like those. Yeah, as far 347 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: as tails go, I like those doubly. I mean, did 348 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 1: you you saw in the video. It was really cute 349 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: to see them, like like, look at the little look 350 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: at that little took us like walking walking off that 351 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: like to see I mean, I don't want to sound 352 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: like a pervert, but to seeing like to like the 353 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: little coyote and the little badger butts just like walking 354 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 1: off in the distance together. It's very cute. Oh yeah, 355 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: not perverted at all. Yeah, it's very cute. There's another 356 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: duo of unusual friends, gelata's and wolves in Ethiopia co 357 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: exists peacefully, which seems unlikely because they're both sort of 358 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: can be a little bit of pugnacious. Um So, Gelatas 359 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: are a type of monkey, and they are kind of 360 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: baboon like, but they aren't actually in the same group 361 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: as baboons, but they're they're very closely related. And the 362 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 1: Ethiopian wolves are they look like wolves, actually have kind 363 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: of a reddish coloration. Let me show you. Here's the 364 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: Ethiopian wolf. They kind of have like a fox coloration. Yeah, yeah, 365 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: but they are they look a little bit kyote like, 366 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: but they are wolves. And then this is this is 367 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: a gelata and you're actually looking at mostly males here 368 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: interesting as evinced by their wiener that you can see. 369 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 1: But they're they're actually quite quite beautiful. They have this 370 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: like beautiful hair that just looks like a like a 371 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: kind of nineties style blowout. And then they have these 372 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: red chests and iron Man. Yeah, like this like sort 373 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: of triangle shaped red chest. And then I mean, you know, 374 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: a weener of course, and and a standard four door 375 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: sedan weiner, but they are a These gelatas are communal animals. 376 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: So there's usually like a dominant male or dominant group 377 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: of males, and then a bunch of females and they're 378 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 1: they're political structure. Is can be complex because it's not 379 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,719 Speaker 1: I think I've talked about this on the show before. 380 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: Often when you talk about dominant like alpha males and 381 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,239 Speaker 1: then their harem of females, it's seen as is kind 382 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: of like, oh, he rules over the females, but in fact, 383 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: the females can when they can kind of vote a 384 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,479 Speaker 1: male out. So it's like more of a democracy because 385 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: if the male they don't like this male, and a 386 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: new group of males comes along, they'll actually help the 387 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,239 Speaker 1: new males take over. And so these it's in the 388 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: interests of these alpha males to cater to the female's desires, 389 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: so they'll they'll voted out, yeah, to not get voted out, 390 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: like they'll groom them, they'll do some like canvassing, you know. So, 391 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 1: so you have this group of gelatas and usually they 392 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: have a lot of babies around, and they're all sitting 393 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: on the grass eating the grass. They love to pick 394 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 1: up these like tender shoots of grass. And then you'll 395 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: see a wolf just kind of stalking along amongst the gelatas. 396 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: And it's a very bizarre thing because none of the 397 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: gelatas seem upset at all, even though it's a wolf. 398 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: They have a bunch of young babies, juicy little babies 399 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: that would make a great snack. You can quote me 400 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: out of context about that um And but they aren't 401 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: upset because they know that the wolves aren't after their babies. 402 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: They're just after the rodents because they've learned that if 403 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: they are chill and they don't, you know, mess with 404 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: the gelatas. As the gelatas are plucking up grass and foraging, 405 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,719 Speaker 1: they actually disturb the rodents that are nesting under the ground. 406 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: And the rodents will come up and be like, hey, 407 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 1: who's that on my roof and then boom like a wolf. 408 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: I'll just eat it, you know, like who's on the rooftop? 409 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: Is it sand? It? No, it's a wolf and your 410 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: head's gone now. But it's it's amazing because it's an 411 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: interesting I mean, it is it's an you know, you 412 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: have this predator, right, you have have this predator of 413 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: the wolf that you would not think would be so comfortable, 414 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 1: just kind of like walking around all these families sitting 415 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: in picnicking out on the grass, but they're they're fine, 416 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: and it's it's kind of incredible how these animals have learned, 417 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: like you know what, like you know, sure, like I 418 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: could have a gelata baby now, or I could wait 419 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: and have as many rodents as funny mice. Yeah, yeah, 420 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: it's and it is kind of it is pretty cute 421 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: to see, I mean, other than like, I mean, the 422 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: rodents are getting the short ended of the stick this episode. 423 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, in the name of friendship, 424 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: what's a few dead ground squirrels and mice and nothing 425 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: adorable little creatures? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well, this one reminds 426 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: me of the first one, and that like just intuitively 427 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: it's spiders eat frogs, wolves eat these little like monkey things. Yeah, 428 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: I mean, well, the the adult gelat is, to be fair, 429 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: are quite big and yeah yeah, and they could fight 430 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: a wolf, but the wolf is not there too to 431 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: harass them, so they just they don't attack the wolves, 432 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: and the wolves don't try to sneak off with the 433 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: baby's It is an interesting relationship because you do have 434 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: kind of like both sides could attack each other, but 435 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 1: they don't and they have come to an agreement to 436 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: screw over the road. And yes it's a common enemy. 437 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: Yes exactly. Have you ever been to UH Animal Tracks? 438 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: It's this wildlife sanctuary probably thirty miles north of l A. 439 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: It's awesome, Like it's so great where they have there's 440 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: different packages which is kind of funny, and that you 441 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 1: can get the like primate packet or like the mammal package, 442 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 1: but it's extra if you want reptiles. Is this like, 443 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: So you go and visit uh and then you yeah, 444 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: you get to sit with them basically where you pay 445 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: like X amount of money and it all like goes 446 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: back into the like wildlife preserve and that they have. 447 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: It's amazing. And they have um like a baboon and 448 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,479 Speaker 1: a lemur, and then they like these monkeys where they 449 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: don't make them do tricks or anything like that's a 450 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 1: big thing where they like just you know, if they 451 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: want to do something, they just teach you about them. 452 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: But then they also have kangaroos, a fenic fox, um 453 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: and armadill. Oh, and you get to meet all these animals. 454 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: I should go there. What's it called again, It's called 455 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: animal tracks. That's awesome, you would love it. I'm so 456 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: glad you brought that up because actually, at the end 457 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: of the show, I'm going to talk about an animal 458 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: sanctuary in Australia. Someone contact contacted me about that and 459 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: I was thinking, Man, I wish I lived in Australia 460 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: so I could go visit. But it's great, we have 461 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: animal tracks right here in l a visit, I'll show 462 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: Humans and animals sometimes form unusual but mutually beneficial partnerships, 463 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: like people and dogs, or people and honey guide birds 464 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: haven't heard of this well. Greater honey guides are small 465 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: birds who live in sub Saharan Africa who have worked 466 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: out a business partnership with people. Honey guys will happily 467 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: lead humans to a bee five, so the human gets 468 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: the honey and the honey guide gets to eat all 469 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: the bee larva and bees wax left behind. The honey 470 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: guide will peep and trill at people to get their attention, 471 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: spread its tail to reveal its white patch like a 472 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: guiding target, and lead people to a bees nest. The 473 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 1: bees can then be smoked out by people and we 474 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: get to collect the delicious honey. The honey guide is 475 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,959 Speaker 1: satisfied with eating the grubs and wax, being insectivorous, and 476 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,479 Speaker 1: feasts on the destroyed nests that the humans have left behind. 477 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 1: Some communities, like the Jawa people in northern Mozambique, use 478 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: whistles or calls to attract honey guides and invite them 479 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: to go hunt for honey. In my opinion, the more 480 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: humans team up with birds, the more unstoppable we become. 481 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: When we return, we'll be looking at relationships of an 482 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: intimate nature. Get your minds out of the gutter, people, 483 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: I'm just talking about some sucker fish. Let's suck on 484 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: some sharks. There are many types of symbiotic relationships animals 485 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: can have. Symbiosis generally describes the relationship between two different 486 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: organisms over a long period of time. Symbiotic relationships can 487 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: range from parasitic, where only one party benefits and the 488 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: other party is harmed or stolen from. There's commence alistic 489 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: where only one party benefits and the other party experiences 490 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: neutral effects, or mutualistic, where both parties benefit. Sometimes biologists 491 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: argue over whether a relationship is mutualistic or commence alistic. 492 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: So we're going to talk about some fishy business that 493 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: gets right in the middle of this rather mild mannered controversy. 494 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of a remora? A ramora is 495 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: a type of fish called also called the sucker fish. 496 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: It's a family of raith and fish who spend their 497 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: day is riding on the backs of sharks, whales, turtles, 498 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: and rays. Yes. Yes, so these guys the ones that, yeah, yeah, 499 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: shark dongles. Yeah so the yeah, I do. I kind 500 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: of like the name shark dongle a little better, but 501 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: that's okay. The name mro literally means hindrance in Latin, 502 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: and they were named this because in the sixteenth century 503 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: people believe that these fish slowed down ships because they 504 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: would sometimes attach to ships. Yeah, they look like paris. 505 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: They kind of look like, yeah, these little hindrance that's 506 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: so mean, really rude, you you bead eyed hindrance. Hindrance. 507 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,479 Speaker 1: But you know, so they look kind of like parasites, right, 508 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: they look like leeches that are in the shape of 509 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: a fish because they're like they got well, they look 510 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: like they've got sucker mounts, right, and but they are 511 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: actually not parasites. They provide a valuable service to the 512 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: animal they've attached to. In the opinions of some bile, 513 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: just other bile just say they just don't harm the animal, 514 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: that the host animal at all, but they don't benefit it. 515 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: In my opinion, it seems like they do offer some benefits, 516 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: so we'll talk about that. But actually it looks like 517 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: they're using a big creepy soccer mouth to suck onto 518 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:26,479 Speaker 1: the the shark. But in fact, no, they're using weird 519 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: creepy sucker hats. So ramoras have evolved front doorsal fins 520 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: that act as suction cups, and it looks like a 521 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: weird ribbed mouth, like here's a photo of it. Oh yeah, 522 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: that is a ribbed mouth. It's totally not. It's actually 523 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: a hat. So here it is on the fish oriented correctly. 524 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: So this is the top of its head and it's 525 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: just wearing this like weird ribbed suction hat. And so 526 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: when you see a ramora on a shark, it's actually 527 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: riding upside down with its head attached to the shark, 528 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: not its mouth. Interesting, that's crazy, yeah, yeah, it's It 529 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: makes them seem a lot more goofy, like they're just 530 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: like riding like attached to their head, going like, way, 531 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: you're doing it wrong. Stop by attaching to sharks and 532 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: whales and these other big animals using their weird section heads, 533 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: they get a free ride around the ocean. But the 534 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: question is do what do their hosts get? And this 535 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: is a little bit controversial. So one of the other 536 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: things that the remora gets is they get to eat 537 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: parasitic copa pods, which are tiny crustaceans that feed off 538 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: of sharks, whales, turtles, and raise One line of thought 539 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: is that, hey, this is a benefit to the sharks 540 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: because they're eating the copa pods the parasites, and then 541 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: other others argue, like, well, they eat the ones that 542 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: have already fallen off of the sharks, so like that 543 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: doesn't really they're not really doing anything. I think that 544 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: even if something's like fallen off of it, like, it 545 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: seems like it might still be a benefit because like 546 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: maybe like a copa pod temporarily detaches, but it could 547 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: reattach right, so I think on the margin, like it 548 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: seems like that that might be a slight benefit. They 549 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: also eat the scraps of food that fall from the 550 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: cloud of carnage that sharks and these other animals produce 551 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: while feeding. That's a little more clearly just beneficial to 552 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: the remora, although I don't know, like maybe by cleaning 553 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: up the mess they leave behind they attract less competition. Yeah, 554 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: but it's hard to say this is either a commence 555 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: relistic relationship where the remora gets a lot of benefits 556 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: and the sharks that it's hitching or right on just 557 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: doesn't affect them, are neither harm or nor help, or 558 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,719 Speaker 1: it's mutualistic where they're both getting something out of the relationship. 559 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: I think it's it's like, it's not completely mutualistic. I 560 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: think the remora gets a little more, but I think 561 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: it might benefit the shark a little bit. In my 562 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: non shark expert of you know, in my readings, I 563 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: think the shark can actually claim the ramora as a 564 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: dependent and write at all. Uh. In order to actually 565 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,760 Speaker 1: develop that suction hat ramires go through a really weird 566 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 1: puberty from their larval stage to adults. So the dorsal 567 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: fin migrates to the top of their head and flattens 568 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: out in the symmetrical ribbed pattern. And you know how 569 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 1: I said that their ray fin fishes. All those ribs 570 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 1: are like those bony rays that are on their fins 571 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: but just flattened out and symmetrical. So with all those 572 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: ribs and rays, you've got anything about sweet baby rays, 573 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: talking about sauce, glead, I want my baby back, baby back, 574 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: suction hat, rib house eat the suction hat and parasites nice. 575 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,879 Speaker 1: Uh and so but when they're here's the mystery, right, 576 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 1: So when they're in their larval stage or baby fish stage, um, 577 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: like they don't have this section hat yet, so we 578 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: don't actually know like how they feed, how they survive 579 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: as as these teeny tiny fish. Some believe I know 580 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: this is weasel words, but like generally, like this is 581 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: such a mystery that it's hard to say, but there 582 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: there's there's a well weasel words. This is like some 583 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: people say that the larval remoras a bunch of weird bastards. 584 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: That's through the words where you're like saying some people 585 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: say this, um, but you're not actually but but the 586 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 1: right exactly, but this is this is a theory by 587 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: biologist but it's unconfirmed, which is that maybe they use 588 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 1: they have these kind of hooked teeth like when they're 589 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 1: in their larval stage, and maybe they use that to 590 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 1: like attach to like the gills of shark or something 591 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 1: and hit your ride there, although we don't know um, 592 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: so it's hearsay. Hearsay, I say, strick it, strike it 593 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: from the record. As adults, they reach up to one 594 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: to four ft long, so they're not tiny, so like 595 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: when a shark is cruising around, you can see the 596 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,959 Speaker 1: remora is very clearly like hitchen ride. And in fact, 597 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,720 Speaker 1: they can develop such a close relationship with their hosts 598 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 1: they will become distressed if they get separated from their host, 599 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,919 Speaker 1: according to some of these researchers and observers, Like one 600 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: such observer was saying, like one remor got detached from 601 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 1: it shark. The shark like went off without it, and 602 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: it was like kind of frantically swimming around and then 603 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: attached itself to the human observer like just like will 604 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 1: you contacts like those people who have never not been 605 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,959 Speaker 1: in a relationship and like haven't really developed a sense 606 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: of self outside of the relationship to pilot Fish are 607 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: another type of fish who love sharks, raisin turtles, and 608 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: these fish don't actually attach themselves like the remorse, so 609 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: they're slightly less cleaning, but they're still relatively cleany. So 610 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: you can see, here's a group of pilot ship just 611 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,399 Speaker 1: hovering around a shark, like more of a standard fish. Yeah, yeah, 612 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: they you their standard fish shape. They have bold black 613 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: and white stripes. When it's excited, actually those bars kind 614 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: of fade a little bit and it's body turns silvery 615 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: with blue patches. So that's cool. Yeah, and they can 616 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: be quite big. So they grew up to about two 617 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 1: ft long. And yeah, they are called pilot fish because 618 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: they often follow ships. Uh, probably because they think the 619 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: ships are a huge friend, just like they like to 620 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 1: follow sharks and these other big aquatic animals like whales 621 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: as well. And call them captain fish if they're going 622 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 1: to get like the maritime version, they're not flying through 623 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 1: the air exactly. Here you go, there you go, or 624 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: like first mate fish. Yeah yeah, I like that cabin 625 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: boys of the sea. What's interesting about this relationship between sharks, 626 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: oils and these pilot fish is that the sharks and 627 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: whales rarely feed on the pilot fish, like observations of 628 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:03,240 Speaker 1: them actually attacking the pilot fish are basically statistically insignificant, 629 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 1: and they seem to accept these pilot fish as little friends. 630 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: And so the pilot fish do provide probably provide a 631 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,800 Speaker 1: nice service for them, because they will go along the 632 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: backs of the sharks and actually pick off parasites, and 633 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 1: they will even the sharks will even allow them to 634 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 1: pick little scraps of food from their jaws, which is incredible, 635 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: just like yeah, okay, you know be my floss. I 636 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: guess yeah, will yeah, just like little. It's like if 637 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: if exactly like if a dentist just like started like 638 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 1: you got some you got some schmoots in your mouth 639 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,760 Speaker 1: and just like licking your teeth. But if the dentist 640 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 1: just came up to you on the street, right, well, 641 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,720 Speaker 1: I mean I'll like your teeth for you. Of course, 642 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,879 Speaker 1: may I call you doctor? So there are reports that 643 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 1: pilot fish also become very distressed when they are separated 644 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 1: from their shark. But I have a little bit of 645 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: a bone to pick with this idea, so that the 646 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,280 Speaker 1: reports are that like if a boat captures a shark, 647 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: the pilot fish will follow the boat for weeks and 648 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, they're sad that they're shark friend. But 649 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 1: remember these pilot fish just love following boats in generals, 650 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 1: So I don't necessarily think they're like, no, give me 651 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: back my shark friend, which would be sad and adorable, 652 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 1: but I think it's just like, wow, you're an even 653 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: beer shark. I love you. Oh no, my shark friend 654 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 1: a boat and then that's you're my friend now bigger 655 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 1: shark friend. So one more aquatic duo I want to 656 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: talk about is the urchin crabs and guess who their 657 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: friends are? It ur Wow, how did you do that? 658 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: I went to an arts school for four okay worth 659 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:58,760 Speaker 1: every penny. So the urchin crab or carrier crab lives 660 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: in the Red Sea and East Indian Ocean and they 661 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: are best buds with the long spine sea urchin and 662 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,320 Speaker 1: they carry it around on his back like a yoda. 663 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: So it actually only walks on its two front pairs 664 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,439 Speaker 1: of legs because the back, too, are always used to 665 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 1: carry the sea urchin. And I'm not trying to put 666 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: you on the spot here but just throw out like 667 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: a guess why you think the crab would want a 668 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 1: sea archin friend? Like this is question? Yes, exactly exactly that. 669 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 1: I just like I I think it's it's neat because 670 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: sometimes like the intuition about this is not it's like 671 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: not this like tricky thing, not like a convoluted thing. 672 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it's just protecting it, so you don't worry. 673 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: I'm only capable of surface level thought. So so here 674 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: here it is. Oh wow, that looks like he's got 675 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 1: two on his back. It's well, it's just a no, 676 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: I think it's just one. That's a big one. Yeah, 677 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: it's a real big one. And what's interesting is, yeah, 678 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 1: it likes to carry these really big ones. And funny 679 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: that it has to hold Yeah, that makes sense that 680 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: it has to hold it. See, chins are animals, they're 681 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 1: kind of dorms. Sea urchins actually can move, and the 682 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 1: fact that it's this big one means it's probably pretty 683 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 1: mobile for a sea urchin, and if it wanted to 684 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: struggle and like get away from the crab, it could, 685 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,320 Speaker 1: But in fact they're actually quite docile and they peacefully 686 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: submit to being carried because while the crab gets armor 687 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: from the sea urchin, the sea urchin gets a free 688 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 1: ride because they're not as fast as a crab, so 689 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,719 Speaker 1: the crab can carry them around and they get to 690 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: go to a new area to feed, and it's it 691 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 1: works out for both of them really great. It's so 692 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: funny that the crab does. It's like a like an 693 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 1: old man holding on to his to pay in the 694 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:53,959 Speaker 1: wind his head. Beautiful description. Thank you so much. You 695 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 1: may have your own little remorse hitching a ride on 696 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 1: you without even knowing it. Demodex follicule form and Demodex 697 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:06,359 Speaker 1: brevis our eyelash mites microscopic mites who live on your eyelashes. 698 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,479 Speaker 1: They have elongated bodies with a bunch of cute little 699 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 1: legs and claws. Sorry is that not cute? Anyways? Most 700 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: adults have some eyelash mites, and for the most part 701 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: this relationship seems commencelistic, meaning the mites get a home 702 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: and get to eat our dead skin cells and we 703 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: get nothing I mean grossed out, I guess, or if 704 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 1: you want to think about it more positively, we get 705 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:34,320 Speaker 1: a bunch of microscopic friends, so you're never alone. Typically, 706 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,760 Speaker 1: the mites cause no problems in humans, but in large 707 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: quantities or for people with sensitive skin or immuno deficiencies, 708 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: they can cause eye and skin irritation. But don't freak out. 709 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,879 Speaker 1: Most of the time, you can keep mites in check 710 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 1: by gently cleaning your eyes keyword gently, you guys, like 711 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 1: baby shampoo or just water. Don't go napalm in your 712 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 1: eyeballs with bleach that will blind you and it won't 713 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 1: feel so good when we return. I'm going to infest 714 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 1: your heart with good feelings as we explore some one 715 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:17,480 Speaker 1: of a kind adorable relationships between species. Sometimes relationships between 716 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 1: species just happened to happen, and there's no greater pattern, 717 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: just a random homeward bound situation. Often these oddball partnerships 718 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,800 Speaker 1: happen in captivity. Dogs and cheetahs become friends and zoos 719 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 1: as Zookeepers have found that affable dogs make great companions 720 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 1: to the shy cheetah. There are countless videos of birds 721 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 1: riding on top of dogs and cats, chickens snuggling up 722 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 1: to kittens, cats adopting squirrels, cats and dogs kissing on 723 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,760 Speaker 1: the mouth. What is going on? Well, sometimes animals aren't 724 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 1: so superficial and can see past the mere fact that 725 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 1: they're from entirely different species. So now I'm going to 726 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 1: talk about these These relationships don't have any like wider 727 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 1: evolutionary significance, but they're just kind of these random oddball 728 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 1: couples that are really cute and fascinating to kind of 729 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 1: show that sometimes animals will act outside of their kind 730 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:13,360 Speaker 1: of prescribed path of what the animals typically do, especially 731 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 1: in weird situations. So this first one is this is 732 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 1: a heartwarmer. Get those get those warm fuzzies in your 733 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 1: heart which aren't this time not worms, which is great. God. So, 734 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 1: a baby hippo named Owen was orphaned in the two 735 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,399 Speaker 1: thousand and four Indian Ocean tsunami earthquakes, which were these 736 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 1: huge devastating natural disaster. It caused flooding in Malindi, Kenya. 737 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 1: This little baby hippo lost his parents, which is very sad. 738 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,840 Speaker 1: He was rescued by Dr Paula Cahumbu and the le 739 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 1: Farge Ecosystem Sanctuary in mombas U, Kenya. He was also 740 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 1: rescued by a giant tortoise emotionally rescued. So Z is 741 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 1: a hundred and thirty year old male to tortoise who 742 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 1: also lives at the sanctuary. And when Owen was placed 743 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 1: in the sanctuary park, he immediately ran over to the 744 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 1: tortoise and huddled next to him like hippos generally do 745 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 1: with their mothers, And at first the tortoise was kind 746 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 1: of confused, but then he grew to tolerate and even 747 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 1: show affection towards the baby hippo, and the baby hippo 748 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 1: would nozzle the tortoise, and then tortoise would kind of 749 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,800 Speaker 1: head bumped the hippo, and like it developed to the 750 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 1: point where the baby hippo owen would just kind of 751 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 1: nudge the tortoise and the tortoise would follow the hippo around. 752 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 1: And it's really interesting because it's not too surprising to 753 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,280 Speaker 1: me that the hippo would see this tortoise and it's orphan, 754 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 1: and it just sees the shape. It's gray, kind of 755 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: Bobby shape exactly. You're my new mom. Yeah, I mean 756 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 1: not that close, but close enough. Yeah, but what I 757 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 1: can't tell the difference between tortoises, And it's so surprising 758 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,919 Speaker 1: to me that the tortoise is just like, yeah, it'll 759 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: be your moment, sure, why not? Yeah, you can beat 760 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:04,879 Speaker 1: myself now. They do seem like like more agreeable animals. Tortoises. Yeah, 761 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 1: they're they are very gentle generally. H but yeah, it is. 762 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 1: It is. It's like it's like in you know, Kung 763 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,320 Speaker 1: Fu Panda, where it's like the duck and the panda 764 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 1: like this huge, huge, panda and this little little I mean, 765 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,799 Speaker 1: the giant tortoise was initially about the same size, but 766 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 1: as the zippo gets bigger, it's got to dwarf the tortoise. 767 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 1: But it is. Yeah, it's a I don't know, it's 768 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,080 Speaker 1: just really heartwarming. I guess some the show is often 769 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 1: filled with horrible things eating each other, um, you know, 770 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,320 Speaker 1: but this time there's no twist. It's just really heartwarming. 771 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 1: Can tortoises can they go into their shells or are 772 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 1: they too big? Well? So they so giant tortoises, um 773 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 1: don't really like tuck completely in their shells like box 774 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,959 Speaker 1: turtles can do. But you know, I mean the shell 775 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,799 Speaker 1: does provide them some protection. They can kind of like 776 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,399 Speaker 1: tuck a little bit it in, but they don't. It's 777 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 1: not like you know in the cartoons are just like 778 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,879 Speaker 1: zoop and then they're gone. They're too meeting for that. Yeah, 779 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: that makes sense. And what are their predators like? Just 780 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,919 Speaker 1: you know, actually I would say they don't have too 781 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,359 Speaker 1: many predators because they're pretty big, because in my mind 782 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 1: they don't have many predators, Like, yeah, I don't think 783 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 1: they would. So they live in on the islands of 784 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:29,280 Speaker 1: the Western Indian Ocean and also the Glapas. I believe 785 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 1: they don't have any No, no, there's like there's not 786 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 1: there's no big predators that would be large enough to 787 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 1: eat them. Now, I don't let me check about the um. 788 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 1: This is a very good question. So on the island 789 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 1: the Western Indian Ocean islands, again, I would guess that 790 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:50,799 Speaker 1: there probably aren't any big predators there either. Um, So 791 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 1: they might not have at least as adults, they might 792 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 1: not have any natural predators as like little baby tortoises, 793 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 1: like probably birds would try to eat them. But but 794 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,319 Speaker 1: if they turn like ten, it's like, all right, you're 795 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:08,280 Speaker 1: going to live until your three things. Essentially, Yeah, yeah, 796 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 1: I don't think they do. Like the adults have no 797 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 1: natural predators, So yeah, that that does kind of make 798 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 1: sense them Like it sees this hippo bounding towards it. 799 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 1: It's like, all right, what's this about? What the hell? 800 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,440 Speaker 1: I don't know this? What is this? Is this a 801 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 1: few of my buddies stacked on top of each other. Yeah? Again, 802 00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,240 Speaker 1: I like it's sort of like the badger coyote dynamic 803 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,800 Speaker 1: of like this excitable baby hippo and this like a 804 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,399 Speaker 1: hundred thirty year old tortoise who's like old and gratchy. Oh, 805 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,879 Speaker 1: it's like an up you know how the old guy 806 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 1: makes friends with the little the little boy scout Kevin's 807 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,719 Speaker 1: the bird. I think who's the boy scout's name? I 808 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 1: don't remember a little boy scout? The hippo me but 809 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:55,399 Speaker 1: but yeah, so so it's just like this excited little 810 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 1: hippo being like, hey, sure wouldould like to beat my 811 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 1: new mommy. And it's like yeah, all right, all right, 812 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,799 Speaker 1: oh boy, let's go on adventures together please, And the 813 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,759 Speaker 1: turns like, alrighty, there's beauty. Let's go take a while 814 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 1: because to him a hippo. Hippo's truthfully are they can 815 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 1: run very quickly. Don't let their massive size fool you. 816 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,240 Speaker 1: Most of that size is pure muscle. They can destroy 817 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 1: you and run very fast. So now onto another cute adoption. So, uh, 818 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 1: there's a story of a dalmatian adopting a lamb. But 819 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,840 Speaker 1: here's the twist. The lamb had Dalmatian spots. So there's 820 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,920 Speaker 1: a rare sort of colouration for a lamb where it 821 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:48,800 Speaker 1: actually forms these black and white patches and it looks 822 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,640 Speaker 1: like a dalmatian's coloring. But it's a lamb. And so 823 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 1: there's a farm in Australia where this lamb was born 824 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 1: and it was orphaned. I couldn't find out whether it's 825 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,800 Speaker 1: mother died or some times the mother will just reject 826 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 1: the lamb for who knows what, like you're you're a 827 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:08,360 Speaker 1: little freak, get out of here, weirdo. But the lamb 828 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,800 Speaker 1: really looked out because it was born on a freaking 829 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 1: Dalmatian breeders farm. So uh. The lamb was paired up 830 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 1: with a female Dalmatian who was in season, meaning it 831 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 1: could give, it could get pregnant, like when they're in 832 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 1: heat in estras um. So like, I guess it's like 833 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,879 Speaker 1: a mom hormones we're going off. And it was like, yeah, 834 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 1: I'll have a baby lamp. I love it. And so 835 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:36,640 Speaker 1: the dalmatian follows the lamb around, licking it incessantly licking 836 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,440 Speaker 1: its face and but and just doting on it, just 837 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:44,200 Speaker 1: totally loving it. Let me show you the video of it. 838 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 1: It's very very cute. Now I'm not going to play 839 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,840 Speaker 1: the sound on this, but most of the videos sound 840 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,920 Speaker 1: is just the sound of the dog tongue lapping and 841 00:50:52,960 --> 00:51:00,120 Speaker 1: going on. But it is it has like the same who. 842 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,240 Speaker 1: I mean, like it's like from a distance, it's like, okay, 843 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,360 Speaker 1: here's a normal dalmatian and it's puppy and it's and 844 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,200 Speaker 1: then you take a closer looking you're like, well that's 845 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 1: a weird shaped puppy. And then you get real close 846 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,799 Speaker 1: since that's a lamb at a minute, but it's so 847 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,839 Speaker 1: cute look at it. Just she just loves this, this 848 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 1: little lamb to bits. That lamb, by the way, was 849 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,440 Speaker 1: a pyromaniac, and then the dalmatian reformed it. You know, 850 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 1: they fight fires together. I love this story. I like 851 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,799 Speaker 1: the backstory you gave it. Like I was rejected by 852 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,359 Speaker 1: my sheep community. It's like, well why is that I 853 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:36,320 Speaker 1: started fires? Started fires? Oh? You know that big fire 854 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:40,399 Speaker 1: in Australia with me. You don't like fires here either. 855 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,920 Speaker 1: It's getting milk. That dog loves that land. It seems 856 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,720 Speaker 1: like the other dogs too. Yeah, I mean, like dogs 857 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:52,960 Speaker 1: are you know great? Yeah, awesome. They they often will 858 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,839 Speaker 1: adopt other animals. They just have so much love to give. 859 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, it is I mean probably also because this 860 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,720 Speaker 1: female dog has accepted the lamb as her her baby. 861 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,279 Speaker 1: The other dogs they're like, all right, it's your baby. Sure, 862 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:12,319 Speaker 1: why not. They're they're really yes, ending the dogs and um, 863 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,000 Speaker 1: one more really cute story of now this one. It's 864 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,400 Speaker 1: not clear whether it's adopting from a young age or 865 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:23,399 Speaker 1: if they have just kind of accepted this, uh, this 866 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:28,320 Speaker 1: individual into their group. But marine researchers found a bottle 867 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:32,240 Speaker 1: nose dolphin with a spinal deformity which had been taken 868 00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,400 Speaker 1: in by a group of sperm whales. So dolphins and 869 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:40,799 Speaker 1: sperm whales are not natural friends. And the dolphin that 870 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,320 Speaker 1: was seen with these sperm whales had a C shaped spine, 871 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,760 Speaker 1: so like, um, yeah, so due to what they guess 872 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 1: is a congenital deformity, and it was observed with a 873 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:56,200 Speaker 1: group of sperm whales and they were just affectionately nuzzling 874 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,399 Speaker 1: each other. The sperm whales seemed chill with it. And 875 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 1: it's hard to say exactly the nature of this relationship 876 00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 1: because it was a rather quick observation, Like they didn't 877 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,560 Speaker 1: they weren't able to follow them over a matter of 878 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 1: weeks or anything like that, so it's hard to you know, say, 879 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,319 Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, like, yes, they are all 880 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,000 Speaker 1: friends now, and you know it could be a brief interaction. 881 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:23,000 Speaker 1: But the bottle knows dolphin was definitely not anywhere near 882 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:27,040 Speaker 1: a pot of dolphins. So the speculation is that it 883 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,960 Speaker 1: is has found this group of sperm whales and has 884 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 1: either insinuated itself in their midst and it's like I'm 885 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:37,320 Speaker 1: your friend now, or they've accepted the dolphin as a friend, 886 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,200 Speaker 1: which is it's unusual because sperm whales don't even they 887 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:42,720 Speaker 1: don't hang out in the same part of the ocean. 888 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 1: Don't they dive deep? No? No, I mean they do, 889 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 1: need they do kind of occupy. Yeah, they occupy similar strata, 890 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,319 Speaker 1: but they it is true that they aren't in the 891 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:57,640 Speaker 1: same pace as dolphins. They do dive deep and then 892 00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,920 Speaker 1: they come up and service and dive deep again. But like, 893 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:04,279 Speaker 1: the dolphins move much quicker than the sperm whales and 894 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:09,080 Speaker 1: the but this dolphin, because of the spinal malformation, probably 895 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,319 Speaker 1: can't move as fast as other dolphins, and either it 896 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,840 Speaker 1: was rejected by its group because of its looks or 897 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,239 Speaker 1: maybe it just wasn't fast enough to keep up, which 898 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:22,400 Speaker 1: is really heartbreaking. But you know, dolphins can kind of 899 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,799 Speaker 1: be bullies, like they can bully an individual that they 900 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 1: just don't like, they don't accept it in their pod, 901 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:32,600 Speaker 1: which is really cliquish. They can yeah, no, they can 902 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 1: attack each other. They certainly murder animals to eat, but 903 00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,319 Speaker 1: like each other like yeah, I mean they can kind 904 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,839 Speaker 1: of fight each other. Yeah, like rival pods will fight 905 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,759 Speaker 1: each other. I don't know how efficacious they are and 906 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,640 Speaker 1: murdering each other, but yeah, they they do fight. Um, 907 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,239 Speaker 1: and I think I would say, yeah, they probably can 908 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,920 Speaker 1: occasionally murder, but most likely they just like bullied this 909 00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,920 Speaker 1: dolphin until it left or just swam fast and it 910 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,480 Speaker 1: was like ditched them. Well, now he has cooler friends, 911 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:05,080 Speaker 1: right exactly that are less cliquish. You missed upon the 912 00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 1: first time, so I had to do it again because 913 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:14,839 Speaker 1: dolphins click. Of course. Yeah there we go. So um, yeah, 914 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,920 Speaker 1: it is, it is really, it's it's fascinating. For the 915 00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,719 Speaker 1: most part. Sperm whales kind of probably avoid dolphins because 916 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,840 Speaker 1: a pot of dolphins could attack like a baby sperm 917 00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,319 Speaker 1: whale and they don't want anything to do with that, 918 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,879 Speaker 1: and so but yeah, I mean, this little guy, it's 919 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,560 Speaker 1: like maybe they're just they recognize them. They they're like, 920 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,040 Speaker 1: you look like a weird, weird calf. All right, you 921 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:43,759 Speaker 1: can join us, So it's it's weird calf. Yeah, calf 922 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,759 Speaker 1: a calf is a baby. Well, yeah, I didn't mean 923 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:48,560 Speaker 1: the part of a life. You look like an odd 924 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:50,719 Speaker 1: fel you look like a weird cow come on and 925 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:55,600 Speaker 1: trying to sure, But yeah, maybe they or it's just 926 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,920 Speaker 1: like so insistently trying to find friends that they're just 927 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,760 Speaker 1: accepting it as they're friend or it's just a brief 928 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,200 Speaker 1: interaction and then they go back to no, no, I 929 00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,120 Speaker 1: won't accept that. Let's let's go ps that that they're 930 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,920 Speaker 1: all best friends. They formed a group called like the Misfits. No, no, 931 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:16,080 Speaker 1: that's a band. What's a good name for like a group? Okay, 932 00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:24,040 Speaker 1: now yes, but just like like the odd ball, like 933 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 1: like hey, we're I guarantee you there could easily be 934 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,279 Speaker 1: a T shirt of a Remor on it, like the 935 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:36,240 Speaker 1: Remons stop t shirt, and like three people would enjoy 936 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:40,480 Speaker 1: wearing If you're the three people who would enjoy wearing 937 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 1: that shirt, let me know make that shirt. Um this 938 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:50,160 Speaker 1: for so, I want to cap off the show and 939 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,960 Speaker 1: our stories of adoption to update us. We got a 940 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,359 Speaker 1: KOL update. I'm gonna play the KOL update sound here 941 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,680 Speaker 1: call update. A few weeks ago, we talked about the 942 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:04,160 Speaker 1: fires in Australia. I talked about some places that you 943 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:08,239 Speaker 1: can donate to, and I had everyone vote on a 944 00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:13,000 Speaker 1: koala for us at the show to adopt, and you 945 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,800 Speaker 1: guys voted and you voted for Oxley Twinkles the koala 946 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,600 Speaker 1: and I have it is official. Now I have adopted 947 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:25,840 Speaker 1: Oxley Twinkles. She thank you. She is my Koala daughter. Apparently, 948 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,960 Speaker 1: what happens with the koala adoption is you don't actually 949 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:34,280 Speaker 1: like get the koala, Like they don't send you the Koala. 950 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,120 Speaker 1: It's just kind of right exactly what happens is the 951 00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:42,919 Speaker 1: quala like occasionally calls me up and asks for money, um, 952 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:44,640 Speaker 1: and like it's like, yeah, I need some money for 953 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,760 Speaker 1: gas and it's like yeah, okay, I mean you are 954 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,680 Speaker 1: my daughter now, like right right, I want to see 955 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,439 Speaker 1: the receipt from the gas station, Like and don't give 956 00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,880 Speaker 1: me a receipt from a gas station and you've crossed 957 00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 1: out all the booze and sharpie like I know, look, 958 00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,560 Speaker 1: I was a young Koala wants to you. I've done 959 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,640 Speaker 1: all the tricks, so I know it. I know it. 960 00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:06,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, so so ox Oxley Twinkles Koala daughter of 961 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:11,200 Speaker 1: the podcast. Um, I want to talk to you or 962 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:14,680 Speaker 1: tell you about like the description of Oxley twinkles from 963 00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,760 Speaker 1: the Koala Hospital website. Did you get a velvet worm 964 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,360 Speaker 1: with that? Did it come with a velvet worm or 965 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,439 Speaker 1: now sadly, I'm still working on that. I oh, oh, 966 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,760 Speaker 1: that's thank you for reminding me. Because like, guys, please 967 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 1: tell give me the website or number or address of 968 00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,720 Speaker 1: a like an insect or not insects, sorry, but like 969 00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:39,520 Speaker 1: an invertebrate rescue organization, because I desperately want to adopt 970 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,520 Speaker 1: a velvet worm. Now I understand I wouldn't blindly click 971 00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:46,240 Speaker 1: on those links, by the way, I understand that probably 972 00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,560 Speaker 1: by adopting a velvet worm. Again, like the Koala situation, 973 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,400 Speaker 1: it's going to be a long distance relationship. I accept that, 974 00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,200 Speaker 1: But I do want to at least in name, adopt 975 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,920 Speaker 1: a velvet worm, or at least UH sort of signal 976 00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:03,360 Speaker 1: boost in inverted rescue organization, or probably more likely it 977 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:07,440 Speaker 1: would be an invertebrate conservation organization that UM uses the 978 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:12,440 Speaker 1: money to research how to help with UH invertebrate conservation UM. 979 00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, like, if you have a good one or 980 00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,720 Speaker 1: you are part of a group, send me. You can 981 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:19,880 Speaker 1: contact me through Twitter and stuff. But you can also 982 00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,600 Speaker 1: if you want send me an email Creature feature pod 983 00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,240 Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. Also if you just want to 984 00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,320 Speaker 1: send me an animal story or a picture of your cat. 985 00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:31,560 Speaker 1: I love it so. Oxley Twinkles, Uh, here's the here's 986 00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:35,560 Speaker 1: her stories. That she came in with her mother, Oxley Kaylee, 987 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:39,400 Speaker 1: who got I think hit by a car. But the 988 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:43,280 Speaker 1: mother survived, as did the Joey, and it was taken 989 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:47,600 Speaker 1: in by the Koala Hospital. And this little Joey, they said, 990 00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,760 Speaker 1: like her Joey with the big fluffy ears. We christened 991 00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:54,040 Speaker 1: Oxley Twinkles as she was such a bright, alert, lively 992 00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:58,480 Speaker 1: little Koala just like a twinkling star. My daughter is 993 00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:04,280 Speaker 1: a star. She's very lucky. Yes, so it's it's wonderful. 994 01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:07,000 Speaker 1: And if you guys wanna throw some more books at 995 01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:11,720 Speaker 1: Oxley Twinkles, way honestly, any here's here's me talking out 996 01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,600 Speaker 1: of character for a moment. Any donation you give to them, 997 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,400 Speaker 1: like any kuala you adopt, it just goes towards the 998 01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,600 Speaker 1: Koala Hospital in general and the great work that they do. 999 01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:25,720 Speaker 1: So that's uh Koala Hospital dot org dot au. I'll 1000 01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,760 Speaker 1: include that link in the show notes as well. I 1001 01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,880 Speaker 1: also got a message from Tom Rogers of the Podorou 1002 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,720 Speaker 1: Palace Sanctuary in New South Wales, Australia, who sent me 1003 01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:39,320 Speaker 1: a gorgeous photo of a rescued koala named Sapphire and 1004 01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,040 Speaker 1: her baby Joey, and you know I'm going to post 1005 01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:45,160 Speaker 1: those to the social media's And he wrote to me 1006 01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,520 Speaker 1: that they had to evacuate the animals in the sanctuary 1007 01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,800 Speaker 1: during the height of the New South Wales fires, which 1008 01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,360 Speaker 1: was really stressful for the animals and I imagine the 1009 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,720 Speaker 1: rescuers too. So thank you so much, Tom Rodgers and 1010 01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:01,280 Speaker 1: everyone who works at the Poduru Palace for all the 1011 01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,360 Speaker 1: hard work you do and honestly heroic things you do 1012 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:08,040 Speaker 1: for these animals. Definitely check out their website. I'll also 1013 01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:09,640 Speaker 1: include a link to it in the show notes. It's 1014 01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:13,320 Speaker 1: called Potaru Palace dot com. And I'm not sure if 1015 01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,920 Speaker 1: they're open right now, you could check, but if you 1016 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,919 Speaker 1: live near New South Wales, Australia, you can visit their 1017 01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,760 Speaker 1: sanctuary and help feed the animals. And then what was 1018 01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:25,200 Speaker 1: this the one year l A could you animal track 1019 01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,920 Speaker 1: animal tracks? And then there's another great one near l 1020 01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:33,040 Speaker 1: A in um Lake Arrowhead called wild Haven, Oh wonderful. 1021 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,360 Speaker 1: So so yeah, shout out to all those groups. That's 1022 01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,640 Speaker 1: that's incredible. I I am definitely going to go check 1023 01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:48,800 Speaker 1: out animal tracks. That sounds incredible. Great, got anything to 1024 01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:52,040 Speaker 1: plug Blake Wexler dot com at Blake wet Laurance social media, 1025 01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:57,120 Speaker 1: and then I'm headlining the Arcade Comedy Theater in Pittsburgh 1026 01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:02,560 Speaker 1: on February awesome, congratual, Thank you, Thank you can find 1027 01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,600 Speaker 1: us on Instagram at Creature Feature Pod on Twitter at 1028 01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:07,960 Speaker 1: Creature feet Pod. 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If 1038 01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,760 Speaker 1: you've got any cool animal conservation stories, any cool resources 1039 01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,640 Speaker 1: you want to me to give a shout out, or 1040 01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,680 Speaker 1: pictures of your day cats and dogs or birds or whatever. 1041 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,640 Speaker 1: Thanks for the Space Classics. For their super groovy song 1042 01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,800 Speaker 1: x Alumina. Creature features a production of I Heart Radio. 1043 01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,600 Speaker 1: For more podcasts like this, visit the I heart Radio 1044 01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:01,560 Speaker 1: app to app a podcast, or wherever you listen to 1045 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:05,440 Speaker 1: your favorite shows. See you next Wednesday.