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And guess what, we will not 39 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 3: in ot interrupt you. That's why we will not interrupt you. 40 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 3: So we have that and much more to the USC trojans. 41 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: We got a trojan here that he met Rob g 42 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: He said, let me just pull up on him real 43 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: quick and. 44 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 4: Go tackle somebody. 45 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: Right that's crazy looking at you like he might come 46 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: tackle you, Rob. 47 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 4: Man. We got you know. 48 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: We're here of course super Bowl week NFL talk, but 49 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: the NBA trade that the USC trojan would be here 50 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: for a big game. 51 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 4: I'm just oh dang, he just see how I hear you? 52 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: He said, he shocked that you would be here. 53 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 4: We got a big game, don't wait for you. 54 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: Look at that man, and look the best part is 55 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: that was recording on his phone. 56 00:02:58,160 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 4: He was like, let me turn this off. 57 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: Now, let me turn off my y'all ruining my content 58 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: out here in these Super Bowl streak. 59 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 4: Let me get out of here. We doing all right? 60 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: Sorry, oh man, But anyway, NBA trade dead line is 61 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: coming up. 62 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 4: We've had some trades. We'll talk more, get a little bit. 63 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: More in depth with this next hour with Antonio Daniels. 64 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: But there are reports here that the Clippers are looking 65 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: to move James hard and thereics, you know, taking some 66 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: calls on that, and they're trying to find a deal 67 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: by the Thursday deadline. This is coming from sham Serannie. 68 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: Of course it's done. Oh this is done. Manzi is 69 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: Manzi thinking? Manzi? Steve is doing updates. You might as 70 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: well come do a update up here now. 71 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 4: So who is it? What's to do? I gotta look 72 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 4: it up now. Ooh oh okay, So that's very all right. 73 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: So the Clippers are trading James Harden to Cleveland for 74 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: Darius Garland and a second round pick. Uh, these are 75 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: the cording As Chams. So I'm not that's a good 76 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: I know James Harden has been good. Now, Monzi, you're 77 00:03:55,760 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: the resident Clipper fan. Thumbs up, thumbs down, thumbs down. 78 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: She's sad about it. 79 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 4: But what he does? You just said it. This is 80 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 4: what James Hard I go somewhere, but you gotta do this. 81 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 4: I'm serious. 82 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 3: When somebody doesn't want to be there, I'm sorry. I'm 83 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 3: just can't. He doesn't want to be there. He wants 84 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 3: to get paid. They're not going to give him the 85 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,239 Speaker 3: eighty million or one hundred million dollars he wants. Thank 86 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 3: you very much. And you know what, and you just 87 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 3: got to move on. You're not winning anything with James Harden, right, No, 88 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 3: so what would be the purpose on holding on to him. 89 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 3: You're not winning anything. You're barely lucky if you make 90 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 3: the playoffs. It doesn't make sense. The Clippers did the 91 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 3: right thing as soon as he said he don't want. 92 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 4: To be there, We'll help you. 93 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: That's a good And by the way, James Harden in 94 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: name is a bigger person than Darius Garland. But Darius 95 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: Garland is a heck of a player. He's been an 96 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: All Star. He's much younger, he's he's still a capable scorer. 97 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: That's a that's a good get for them, And that 98 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: wasn't really working Garland and Donovan Mitchell wasn't working the 99 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: way they had hoped. Over there, Cleive almost two under 100 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: at times, two ball dominant guys who can score. And 101 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: so that's a good get for the Clippers now to 102 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: get a little younger, to get a little bit more energy, 103 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: get a little bit more effort on both ends of 104 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: the ball. But James Harden, this is a bigger conversation 105 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: you just mentioned with James Harden. James Harden will end 106 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: up going down as the greatest offensive nuclear weapon the 107 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: NBA has ever seen. 108 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 4: What I mean by that is, for. 109 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: A six year period, give or take, James Harden was 110 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: one of the greatest weapons this NBA had ever seen. 111 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: You're talking about a guy who led the league in 112 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: scoring and assist in the same year, a perennial MVP Kennedy, 113 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: a guy who will light you up from all three levels. Right, 114 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: you want the deep ball, you want the mid range, 115 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: you want free throws and layups. I mean he was 116 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: and then not to mention again dropping dimes. James Harden 117 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: his mid those like those those Houston rocket runs were incredible, 118 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: but it always faded badly. 119 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 4: It always ended badly. You got bad players. 120 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 3: Why all that stuff you just said is meaningless that finally. 121 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 4: He'll be the biggest waste. It's like if you just 122 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 4: start none of the that. 123 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 3: He did really because of his postseasons was so horrific 124 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 3: and meltdowns that that you can't even what And he 125 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 3: was on ten teams and every team James Harden, seriously 126 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: as a player has really hurt. Just the way you 127 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 3: look at him, I just can't what do you He's 128 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 3: been on all these teams. It's always the same scenario circumstance. 129 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 3: He hasn't been able to come through. And for all 130 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 3: the talent, it's it's going to be James Harden was 131 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,239 Speaker 3: a total waste. I mean a total waste. 132 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and what crazy about this is? 133 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: It begins Rob G and Rob in the beginning with 134 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: the Thunder. They get to the finals, that young team, 135 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: he's six Men of the Year and he plays terribly 136 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: in the finals. 137 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 4: Remember that he was he was teting up to that. 138 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 3: I was like, this James hardness believable. You're like you're 139 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 3: coming off the bench. I was like, oh my god, 140 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: who is this guy? And then he turned in the 141 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 3: stinker during like like Sam Donald's gonna do in the 142 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 3: Super Bowl, but he turned in the stinker in the 143 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 3: NBA Final. 144 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 4: They get the Let's let's go back. 145 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: So you let's go from the beginning when I just 146 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: mentioned there, and you say to yourself, all right, when 147 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: he was young, right here in the finals, it's the 148 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: stage is too big. You can understand that. Then let's 149 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: go to the most recent Let's do the other end 150 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: of the sandwich. Last season, Harden had seven points and 151 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: a two of eight shooting performance and a decisive game seven. 152 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 4: First the Nuggets. You beat the Nuggets. 153 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: Remember the Clippers were so that may become a great story. 154 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: They were playing well, they had some great players. He 155 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: had kind of redeemed himself a little bit, starting to 156 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: really print pick up his performance. And he goes seven points. 157 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: You only took eight shots in the game seven versus 158 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: the Nuggets, and you and who you are and what 159 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: you meant to that team, and you can go on 160 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: and on twenty seventeen game six ten points. This and 161 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: this is Pete Harden against the Spurs when he were 162 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: with the Rockets. 163 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 4: Remember that we played a horrible game that one. 164 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 3: Games said that he was on that team that missed 165 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 3: twenty seventh straight three exactly. 166 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: So just think about what I just said to you 167 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: twenty At some point you go, you know what, this 168 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: just ain't working, Manti, this just ain't working tonight. And 169 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: so James Harden, to me, it would be one of 170 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: the wasted, most wasted talents the NBA had ever seen. 171 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: When you're talking about legacy and what matters, yes you 172 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: will never you will always talk about it. Yet an 173 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: MVP season was not, you know, runner up a few times. 174 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: Heck of around with the Rockets and what a nuclear 175 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: offensive weapon. But when we talk legacy, when we talk 176 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: what guys meant when it was crunch time, he felt 177 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: drastically multiple times. 178 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 3: So could you call him James softon? 179 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, well, first he was James Harron, no 180 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: did his name because he wouldn't play defense, and then 181 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: now you just like the James Harden soft and it's 182 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: kind of funny. So yeah, it's just disappointed. But again 183 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: that the Clippers. So now what do you say this 184 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: Clipper run. You remember that they left he left Houston 185 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: to go play with the nets. That fails epically, right, 186 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: that that doesn't work out. Then he has to reuniteed 187 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: and it feels so good with Darryl Moury who was 188 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: running the thing, the ship with the rockets Philly. 189 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 4: I mean he goes to Philly. 190 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: He leaves to go to Philly, Daryl Morey and he 191 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: goes to Philly and he goes to Philly, and that 192 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: that fails drastically. So at some point, my god, James Harden, like, 193 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: wherever you go, it doesn't work out. It ends up collapsing, 194 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: and it ends badly, very very badly. 195 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 4: Are you up? I think them up. I know I 196 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 4: have worked the computer over there. Did you do it? Yes? 197 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 5: I did? 198 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 4: And he was that one. He was sweating bullets. Get 199 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 4: the s medium bucks, rober So all right, you know that. 200 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 3: But you'll get an extra biscuit tonight. 201 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 4: That you're not paying for it. 202 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 6: So yeah, Scott and Donald and Juliet take care of it, right, 203 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 6: he some extra food. 204 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 4: He deserves it. He saved our show today. 205 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 6: Look, I think that obviously James Harden has become a punchline, 206 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 6: you know, throughout his career, right, but his playoff failures 207 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 6: are well documented. I think that, if you'll allow me, 208 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 6: you're looking at this James Harden thing from the wrong 209 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 6: perspective because rather than focusing on the negative, Hey he 210 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 6: did it again, he found a way to burn his 211 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 6: bridge and find a new team. 212 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 4: This would be the six team in his NBA career. 213 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 6: What about instead of Lebron James or Kevin Durant being 214 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 6: known as like the poster child, poster men, the frontmen 215 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 6: of the player empowerment era? Has any player flexed his 216 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 6: muscle more than James Harden in. 217 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 4: His NBA career? He wasn't. 218 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 6: He knew he wanted to get paid by the Oklahoma City. 219 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 6: They didn't want to give it to him. He said, right, 220 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 6: trade me goes to Houston Course. In Houston, they had 221 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 6: a very good team, the closest anybody came to beating 222 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 6: those Steph Katie Warriors. 223 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 3: Okay, but here's here's why I think we might have 224 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 3: the same respective Here's why did James Harden a is 225 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 3: he came away with nothing that you beat me to it, 226 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 3: rob G. That's fair that's total. He came away, So 227 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 3: so you're right. But some of those other guys you're 228 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 3: talking about who pushed their weight down play it ring. 229 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 3: They won, They at least won. He went everywhere and 230 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 3: didn't come away with anything. 231 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 6: I guess what I'm my comment, what I want to 232 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 6: say is for everybody who says, don't let these teams dictate, 233 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 6: like people were getting mad at with Giannis. Giannis, the 234 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 6: Bucks are ruining your career. You got to get traded, right, 235 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 6: Damian Lillard, the Blader ruined your career. You gotta get traded, disaster. 236 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 6: James Harden has figured out a way by hook or 237 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 6: by crook to make sure that he gets his money 238 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 6: and he ends up where he wants to go. 239 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: But so then I think that the difference is, and 240 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. I think the difference is 241 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: people are saying good rittence to him. The Pelicans didn't 242 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: want to lose Anthony Davis, but he was like, look 243 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: it's just that time. 244 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 3: Unning and he and once he didn't want to be there. 245 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 3: You can't hold on to you can't make. 246 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: So But but they're also with James Harden, it ends 247 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: up getting worse he's like, you know what, fine, good 248 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: rittance or it just it's. 249 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 4: Then another team bites the apple. So because he's obviously 250 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 4: he's using his talent even at his age. 251 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 3: There's only four hundred NBA players Robb g and guess what, 252 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 3: two hundred of them can't play. And I'm talking about 253 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 3: respect that right, Yeah, at that level, you know what 254 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 3: I mean? Like seriously, so you're talking about a planet 255 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 3: that has two hundred guys who can do what those 256 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 3: guys do. And I think that's why they always probably 257 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 3: one of thirty who can. 258 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: Do it at that high level and at and it 259 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: was a top three player for you. 260 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 3: How many guys play basketball and you're saying that only 261 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 3: thirty or forty guys can do it. And that's how 262 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 3: that's how specialized. That's why they're making the money they make, 263 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 3: and that's why people bend over backwards for them, even 264 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 3: when they piss you off and you want to discard 265 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 3: them and say let's be let's meet up with him. 266 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 4: And they know it. 267 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: And again we always talk about this, the difference between 268 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: pitchers uh and and home run hitters in baseball and 269 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 1: in the NFL. You're talking about quarterbacks basketball when you 270 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: get a. 271 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 4: Lebron and you get a shack when you're gonna go. 272 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 1: But they control so much on both sides, right that 273 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 1: that's why they the weight there, The weightiness of them matters. 274 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: And with James Harden now going to by the way, 275 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 1: the other side of this, him going to Cleveland, I. 276 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 4: Don't really like it for them. What's been the issue 277 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 4: with Cleveland? 278 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: While you don't buy Donovan Mitchell, let team the heart, 279 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: the toughness, are they gonna show up at crunch time 280 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: in the post? Is why you talking about? You know 281 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 1: the Knicks. You ain't really worried about, you. 282 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 3: Know them, and they've turned it around though. 283 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: They had but nobody but people. Ultimately anything can happen, 284 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: you know that. But I'm saying that the. 285 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 3: Reason why Cleveland credit though for the idea that what 286 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 3: happened last year and they had injuries too, so I'm 287 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 3: not gonna but they decided that they're not going. 288 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 4: To just run it back, run. 289 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 3: It back, that they want to add some people who 290 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 3: have put up numbers, done things or whatever. 291 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 6: All of Harn's issues, he plays, he plays even when 292 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 6: he's heavy. 293 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 4: He plays that. 294 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 3: Time when he was in that time when he was 295 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 3: with the Rockets when he wanted out on. 296 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 4: That shock program. 297 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 3: He looks like he had a fat man suit on. 298 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 3: I couldn't believe how fatt he what that was to. 299 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 4: Your point of getting him his way out? Yes he did. 300 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 4: That was to the next Okay, real quick. 301 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 6: You might not like what the Calves are doing now, 302 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 6: but this could be a precursor for something even bigger. 303 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 4: I believe I will tell you about it next. 304 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: And you will do that. Numb me out here teasing 305 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: on we teased? Do you text the teasers? You don't 306 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: do the teases? 307 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 3: Unbelievable, Rob, this is a Rob g show. What are 308 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 3: we doing here? 309 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 4: Killed? I'm just trying to help you stay on time? 310 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 4: That's all Get where's my wee bum there? 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But the Leave's 347 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: got your back with up to twelve hours of body 348 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: pay relief for dose A league keeps you going with 349 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: long lasting body pay relief this winter, try leave use 350 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: as directed for minor achs and pains. Rob ge Ws 351 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: coming in. We're talking about James Harten, now traded to 352 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: the Cavaliers. He is on his mission how to play 353 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: for every team in the NBA. That's right, he's a 354 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: third of the way there. And now, of course for 355 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: Darius Garland, we'll be coming to the Clippers. 356 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 4: But maybe there's some more in the mix. 357 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, you said you don't really like this move for 358 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 6: the Cavs, and it makes sense right ten years later 359 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 6: a younger player, I understand why you wouldn't like it. 360 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 6: Yahoo Sports reported early on Tuesday morning, when there were 361 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 6: just speculation that Harden might get traded to Cleveland, that 362 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 6: they have visions of James Harden being in Cleveland. 363 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 4: Cavalier check that. 364 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 6: The next step from here would be, can we flip 365 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 6: one of our high priced big men Jared Allen or 366 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 6: Evan Mobley get into the yannisweepstakes. So they got a 367 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 6: big three with Donovan, Harden and Jannis. And finally, assuming 368 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 6: that all comes to fruition this offseason, the King comes 369 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 6: home to Cleveland for a farewell to it to have 370 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 6: a big four. Now Lebron, Jannis, Harden, Mitchell. Does that 371 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 6: move you? 372 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 3: No, it doesn't move me. It doesn't move me because 373 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 3: I don't I think that I know everybody's trying to 374 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 3: get Lamarn back there. In the scenario, there's gonna be 375 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 3: more teams that'll have say before Jannis gets to Cleveland 376 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 3: that that's my back, sad be fighting hard for exactly, 377 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 3: and they'll and they'll have other things and and and 378 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I just if that scenario happens, 379 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 3: I'll say I'm wrong. But I don't see where where 380 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 3: that's going to be the situation. And it might remind 381 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 3: you of the Lakers when they had the four Hall 382 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 3: of Famers together, call them Malone, pay Gary Payton, Shaq 383 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 3: and Kobe and they lost to the two thousand and 384 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 3: four Pistons in a five game suite. 385 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: Let me tell you why. G The question you asked was, 386 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: did I does it move me at all? And I say, yes, 387 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: it moves me because if I'm the Pistons or Orlando 388 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: or some young up start in the East, I love 389 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: it because that team ain't beating us. 390 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 4: Them old geezers ain't keeping up. That's what I'm saying. 391 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: It's hard, and it's never even shown up in the postseason. 392 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 4: Right, pay alone now. 393 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 3: And then yeah, he'll score you twenty two and give 394 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 3: up twenty four. 395 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 4: On the other side, sign me up. 396 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:54,479 Speaker 1: You know, the other teams I think will want that 397 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 1: because I think you're not absolutely not going to get 398 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 1: the best version of them. So for me, I'm I 399 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: don't see it. I don't see the whole in it. 400 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: I get the Lebron the name doesn't. 401 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 4: It's just not a team. It's a difference. 402 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: It's a different NFL NBA now, it's a different, completely 403 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: different NBA. 404 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 4: Now. 405 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: You see that we talked about it, what Boston was 406 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: able to do getting picks, getting young. You see what 407 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: the Thunder, you see what the Pistons, You see what 408 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: some of these other young upstar teams are able to 409 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: do this. Ain't the era of just going to get 410 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: some people you don't agree with me. I'm getting me, Monk, 411 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: right now, who's your team? I see embarrassed to say so. 412 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: Who's a bad team right now? The Wizards, the Hornets. No, 413 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: she she's from Sacramento, the Keys from from Brooklyn. 414 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 4: I'm just the Nets. Oh, Jenny, we're talking basketball. But 415 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 4: I got you the Jets. Yeah, but the Jets. I'm 416 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 4: sorry to hear that too. 417 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: Oh, she's the first woman to coach in New York. 418 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,239 Speaker 4: All right, shout out to you. What's your name? All right? 419 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 4: Collect v Smith, It's nice to meet you. Collect. 420 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 3: We're gonna so thank you. Aaron Glenn, I'm just saying, see, 421 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 3: I'm sorry about that. 422 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 4: Let I ain't say no. 423 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 3: No, I'm sorry about that. 424 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 4: Colet didn't say no. All right, all right out here. 425 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 3: I'll be I'm the one pulling for more black coaches 426 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 3: except Aaron Glenn. 427 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 4: Oh, I'm so so can't cut us by a third? 428 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 4: We got but three. You're gonna cut us by a third? 429 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 4: All right? Anyway? 430 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, I just I'm not I'm what I've seen 431 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,719 Speaker 1: in the NBA now is being young taking your hit 432 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: for a year or two while you develop and grow. 433 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 3: I just think he sounds like a nice story. 434 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 4: And you know what I mean, be healthy. 435 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 1: Won Gianna's never healthy anymore. Lebron is never starting season playing. 436 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 1: He's only gonna be even older. James Harden is Come on, 437 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: this is just that doesn't make any sense to me, 438 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: Absolutely none. Come of Robin Kelvin out here super Bowl week. 439 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: Of course, we are here Radio Row and uh we 440 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: are half you've ever wiped it at this point. By 441 00:20:55,200 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: the way, Rob has become the spokesperson official unofficial spokes 442 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: We're still waiting Elijah thumbs up, thuns down. We heard 443 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: from due wipes yet okay, you're still unofficial. We have 444 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 1: Oh they liked it, they mentioned us. They are they 445 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: missing you? Wait a minute, what do you saying the 446 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 1: large we got we might be the kind of official. 447 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: It still was still working on the deal. You're the 448 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: kind of official yet our video we did that. We're 449 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 1: the unofficial. 450 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 3: Sort of kind of sponsor of Wow. 451 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: And by the way, if you ever wipe with a 452 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: piece of dry toilet paper and wondered, is this as 453 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: good as it gets? 454 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 4: Us? 455 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: Not? 456 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 4: Twitch? The life changing? 457 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: What extra large plushible dude wipes because water just cleans better. 458 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: Available at Amazon and major retailers nationwide. Dude wipes best 459 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: clean pants down. So there you have it. Brittley Weisman, 460 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: former NFL Scout friend of the Show, is joining us 461 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: now here. 462 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 4: What's up man? Good have you here? Be appreciate you. 463 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 3: Appreciate you absolutely always great to talk to you and 464 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 3: to see you proach here super Bowl here in San Francisco. 465 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 4: Shiated, guys, thanks for having. 466 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, a couple let's let's just uh, 467 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 3: what do you make of what's happened with the Patriots 468 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 3: and the whole Hall of Fame thing, just the whole idea. 469 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 3: We know, the accolades, even Robert Craft today found out 470 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 3: he's not getting in. We found out about Bill Belichick. 471 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 3: Just just your thoughts, you know. 472 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 5: For me, I feel like Bill Belichick, Robert Craft should 473 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 5: have gone in. You know this, this is the most 474 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 5: accomplished coach in the history of the NFL six Super Bowls. 475 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 5: What he's done with Tom Brady, without Tom Brady, I 476 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 5: think is enough for it to get to get in. No, obviously, 477 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 5: the scandals, the spygate, that the flake gate, let's not 478 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 5: accliviate it didn't happen. 479 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 3: That's the biggest thing is that you can't act like 480 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 3: it didn't. 481 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 5: I take is this, if you're gonna punish him, leave 482 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 5: him out? Yeah about that, Like, I don't get what 483 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 5: a one year waiting is really serving. If you're gonna 484 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 5: get him in, let him be in. If you're gonna 485 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 5: punish him, let him in. 486 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 1: I think really they're trying to say, we know who 487 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: you are, we know your accolades, we know your whole 488 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: bio on Pro Reference, football dot com, whatever, but you're 489 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: not going in without a stain. 490 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 4: We're gonna put a stain on that suit or on 491 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 4: that bus. You know that. 492 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: You get in the canton and we're gonna put a 493 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: stain on that and let people know. So, as Rob 494 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: has brought up many times, Yeah, you're gonna have to 495 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: talk about it so that when we say, oh Man, 496 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: six super Bowl rings as the coach eight a total 497 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: and by the way, this happened. 498 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 4: And I think that to me is why they can't. 499 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 4: I don't know, think they're gonna keep them out permanently. 500 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 3: That's probably the hardest part, Yeah, of trying to keep 501 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 3: him out. How about the Pro Bowl and where we are. 502 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 3: We're not trying to just bash the NFL, but we 503 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 3: when Justin Fields turns down. 504 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 4: The Pro Bowl. 505 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 3: First of all, how did they it had to be? 506 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 4: Did he go? 507 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 3: It's just a wrong number? I mean, like what they 508 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 3: called him? Like seriously, the Pro It's just where we 509 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 3: are with the Pro Bowl. Now, nobody wants to partake. 510 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 3: I know it's a flag football game. I mean, shout 511 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 3: out Justin Fields. 512 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 5: At least he has a self awareness to say no, 513 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 5: Sudor Sanders, Joe flaggo. 514 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: They're saying yes to this event. Well, Joe Flacco kind 515 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: of makes sense. Number one after. 516 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 4: Eighteen years, come on, winner, it's a vacation. 517 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: And by the way, Joe Flacco, what I liked about 518 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: him is he hasn't been doing the whole g golly shucks. 519 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: I'm just happy to be here. He's like, hey, this season, 520 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: I was starting and I'm playing, and they're like, oh, well, 521 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: what if Joe Burrow? 522 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 4: He basically he got to fight for the spot back? 523 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 4: But what about your door though. 524 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's all just a pr trying to 525 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 5: get fans involved, and I get it, you know, but 526 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 5: it's a shame for me. Because I used to go 527 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 5: to the Pro Bow and Hawaii is again with my mom. 528 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 5: I mean, the problem used to be a good event 529 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 5: and to see it fall so far is it's a 530 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 5: shame for NFL. NFL fans. Hopefully they can turn it around. 531 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 5: Otherwise they should just cancel the game. 532 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 3: I do want to ask you, I'm not a Sam 533 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 3: Donald guy. And we know that, so you know, okay, 534 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 3: you know what I'm talking about. And he played well 535 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 3: against the Rams. I can't take that away from him. 536 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 3: And I'm not because I've always said if he played 537 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 3: well in big games in Minnesota, he would still be there. 538 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 3: Believe that those two games really made them gun shy 539 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 3: on him. And he has the ability to have those 540 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 3: bad games and turnovers and people go and say, Seattle 541 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 3: has this great defense. All Sam Donald has to do 542 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 3: is be regular. Yeah, and that's what they said about 543 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 3: c J. Strout too. You just have to be regular. 544 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 3: He has a bad game, it could cost him. I'm 545 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 3: expecting Sam Donald to turn into Ronald McDonald. 546 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 4: You know. My ultimate take for the Super Bowl. 547 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 5: Can New England stop Seattle's rushing offense on first and 548 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 5: second down early in the game. If they do, and 549 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 5: they make Sam Donald have to throw unknown passing downs. 550 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 5: New England has a chance to win because I don't 551 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 5: expect Sam Donald to play back to back games like 552 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 5: he did against the Rams and. 553 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 4: Now in the Super Bowl. 554 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 5: That is not Sam Donald, right, that's the flu, that's 555 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 5: the outlier, And so I expect New England to be 556 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 5: able to top the run and then I think Sam 557 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 5: Donald's gonna turn into the Sam Donald that we saw 558 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 5: against Detroit last year as the Rams in the playoff game. 559 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 3: Because so you know what I'm saying, we're right here. 560 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, let me break all this up. It's the NFL scout. 561 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: Let me talk to you Brentley Weisman, our guest former 562 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: NFL scout, uh here with the odd couple Robin Kelvin 563 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: on the Trash Talk and Tuesday. Let me ask you this. 564 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: So he's third pick. Yeah, coming out of the draft, 565 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: people think holly of her. Troy Aikman today, I was 566 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: watching something he was on and he's talking about how 567 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: highly regarded he said he thought he was. 568 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 4: The best quarterback out of the draft. 569 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: My question is, how do you all assess scouting when 570 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: you're saying this guy is Bryce Young is the number 571 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: one pick? Sam darn number three, and then they go 572 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: to situations that are bad because you get drafted so high. 573 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: It be the Jets, be the Panthers, if you whoever 574 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: the team, maybe they could have been the Lions at 575 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: times as well. 576 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 4: How do you gauge, well, he's. 577 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: Bad or he's performing bad, or they're in a bad situation. 578 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: It's gonna take some time. How do you do that 579 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: when you're scout like it is. Can he gonna come 580 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: and change a team that fast? Or need to be 581 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,719 Speaker 1: patient with him? How do you do that? 582 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 5: That's the challenging part, right, because the quarterback is so 583 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 5: relying on what's around him. The receiver is the play 584 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 5: calls off, it's a line, et cetera. So's it's you 585 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 5: have to extrapolate what you see on the film. Scout 586 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 5: is arm talent. Scout is a decision making scout. You know, 587 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 5: his ability to think under pressure. Those are things you 588 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 5: can see no matter what's around him. Okay, right, and 589 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 5: Sam Darnold does have a lot of the tools that 590 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 5: you like. He is athletic, he does have a strong arm. However, 591 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 5: I think he has a poor decision making There you go. 592 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 5: I think he's overly aggressive. I think sometimes you know, 593 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 5: he doesn't take the checkdown and he'll try to create 594 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 5: when the play is not there. 595 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 4: If that leads to negative secks. 596 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 5: So those are things you know, as a scout, you 597 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 5: try to evaluate because to your report, Kelvin, I mean, 598 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 5: it's hard to really judge a player when the surrounding 599 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 5: is so bad, you know, because it's you can't really 600 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 5: take that piece out of it. 601 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 3: But here's the other thing. I think it's a cop 602 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 3: out too. I think people use this all the time. Well, 603 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 3: if he was on it, no, no, no, this is 604 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 3: how the draft system works. You usually go to a 605 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 3: bad team. That's why you were a top draft pick. 606 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 3: We saw a lot of people told Joe Burrow, don't 607 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 3: go to Cincinnati. Oh, they can't win. Ever won a 608 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 3: playoff game. They lost seven straight playoff game. That's a 609 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 3: bad organization, a mom and pop store. You can't win there. 610 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 3: He played six to seven games his first year. Next 611 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 3: year there in the Super Bowl, he had a chape am. 612 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 3: I right, he elevated that team. So when I hear 613 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 3: that about these surroundings and blaming everybody else. 614 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 4: You got guys who have had. 615 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 3: A ton of coordinators, other guys have been in good 616 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 3: spots and some guys who who were in a situation 617 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,959 Speaker 3: and it just didn't work out. I don't think that 618 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 3: you could just use you you want a bad team 619 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 3: as an excuse why you didn't work out. 620 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 5: No, I completely agree. And even last year with Minnesota, 621 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 5: Donald was on a good team. He played well, but 622 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 5: then in the guard to half games, the real Sam 623 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 5: Donald came out, you know, And I think Seattle just 624 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,479 Speaker 5: what they have on offense, they're running game, their defense JSN. 625 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 3: And he still let the league in turnovers with all 626 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 3: of that. 627 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 5: Exactly, and so we'll see. I mean, he's to win 628 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 5: one more game, just win one more game. Play well, 629 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 5: we'll see if he can. But I do think, you know, 630 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 5: if he's put in these situations where he has to 631 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 5: win the game with his arm without they're running game 632 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 5: with the defense, we'll see what happens. 633 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about another guy who had 634 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: a very strange season in that statistically it wasn't the 635 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: best big moments, it was one of the more fun 636 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: and that's Caleb Williams. Yeah, statistically lowest target off target pass. 637 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 4: And if you watched the game, my god, that's the point. 638 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: He was putting himself in those situations where he had 639 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: to then turn around to be superman. But teaming up 640 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: with Ben Johnson, and again you'll see the difference between 641 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: last year and this year. Tell me what you think 642 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: of Caleb and scouting and we heard he is, you know, 643 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: the number one scout that scouts were drooling about him 644 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: for years. Where do you see his trajectory going in 645 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: the NFL. 646 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 4: Early on in the season, you know, I would watch Caleb. 647 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 5: And there was just some throws, the easy throws he 648 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 5: couldn't make, and it was really glaring. I mean, I 649 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 5: did not feel good about Caleb Williams, like Week five, 650 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 5: Week six. Later on in the year, you start to 651 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 5: see the ability, the playmaking ability that made him the 652 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 5: number one pick ensure that some of the first half 653 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 5: stuff wasn't great, but late in those games the second half, 654 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 5: his ability to drive the ball down the field, his 655 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 5: ability to create plays out of structure outstanding. And I 656 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 5: think a lot of the turnaround really comes from the 657 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 5: tight end Colston Loveland. Oh nice of that offense change 658 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,719 Speaker 5: once he got into the lineup. And when you project 659 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 5: twenty twenty six, I expect Caleb Williams of Ben Johnson 660 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 5: to take that next. 661 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 4: Step I and to watch him. 662 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 3: What I love the most was the no game Like 663 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 3: you're talking about being down head with two minutes to 664 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 3: go or whatever, like when you you can't teach that. 665 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 3: And this is a guy who won his high school 666 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 3: state championship on the last throw of the game. He did, 667 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 3: some guys, am I right, you can't teach that to 668 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 3: some guys. I'm sorry. 669 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 5: He he has the innate just ability to put the 670 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 5: team on your back and get through w and get 671 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 5: the last minute drive. That the Chicago Bears team had 672 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 5: no business winning a playoff game this year. 673 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 3: They were they were. 674 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 4: At least a year away. 675 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 5: But against you know, against the gosh, I'm trying to think, 676 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 5: excuse me, it was Cale Williams. 677 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 4: It was a Kail Williams show. 678 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 3: And that fourth they shouldn't have won that game, right, 679 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 3: had no business winning that. 680 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 5: Business in that game. But that last that last throw 681 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 5: on the last drive, you see. 682 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 4: Four and you see it. 683 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: And then he did it again the next week exactly, 684 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: And that was I told Rob, I glitched. 685 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 4: I glitch. 686 00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: I was, Oh that that didn't just happen. That doesn't No, 687 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: that was blown. I was blown. Away by that. By 688 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: that as what I'm actually shocked they don't run him more. Yeah, 689 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: I think that's something we're gonna see more next year. 690 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: That's at that point, what do what can I happen? 691 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 3: And even in that game, and I'm gonna blame Ben 692 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 3: Johnson too, we talk about the bad for Yeah, look 693 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 3: take some points. Stop going on fourth down, Like there 694 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 3: was situations that they could have taken a couple of 695 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 3: field goals, they would have won that game? 696 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: Right, What has happened with coaches every week got come 697 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: to him ask, yeah, I did something happened with three points? 698 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 4: Everybody alergic? 699 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 3: Everybody's doing playing mad? That Sean payon one from terrible 700 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 3: as we terrible? 701 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 4: That was that was an embarrassment. 702 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 5: But I will say to you quick Caleb Williams adding 703 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 5: the running that went a long way to him being 704 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 5: so good in the playoffs because people don't understand how 705 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 5: fast he is. 706 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 4: That's why more and to me then it becomes well 707 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 4: what can I do? Yeah, it's a game changer. 708 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 5: He it's a game changer that he needs to use more. 709 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 4: And if he does, I mean. 710 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 5: This offense is gonna be one of the best in 711 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 5: the NFL. 712 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: That Allons fan. I don't want to hear that. Okay, 713 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: Ritley Man, we appreciate you. Ritley twelve on X give 714 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: him a follow there. Keep doing your thing, man, Enjoy 715 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: super Bowl Week.