WEBVTT - Sammy Hagar 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:12.320 Welcome, Welcome, Welcome back to the Bob Left Sets podcast. 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:16.840 My guest today is the Red Rocker himself, Sammy Hagar. 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:19.000 Sammy why red? 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:21.040 Well? 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:23.680 Red is my favorite color. There's no question about that. 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:26.480 Always has been. And when I in nineteen seventy six, 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:29.560 I wrote a song called Red with my co wrote 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:33.519 with my dear buddy John Carter, and I became the 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:36.839 Red Rocker by accident. It was I didn't call myself 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:39.319 the Red Rocker. Someone else called me that, and then 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:42.440 fans started calling me that, and I just said, Okay, 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:44.680 I'm the Red Rocker, but I love the color red. 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:46.319 It's got a special thing about it. 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:48.879 Okay, how many Ferraris do you have? 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:53.000 Seven? Okay? 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:53.960 Are they all red? 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:55.200 No? 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:58.360 Guess what? I only have one red Ferrari. No too, 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:01.240 I'm sorry, I have two red Ferraris. They all have 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:03.560 like either a red stripe or a couple of them 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:06.720 have red and terrier though, but she red Ferraris are 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:07.320 too obvious. 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:08.920 So I'm not a red Ferrari guy. 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:11.960 I know, but that's a classic red color, that's why. 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:13.480 So what color are your fasting is? 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:17.240 I got black, I got a kind of a green one. 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:20.959 I've got a cream colored almost yellow, but it's not 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:24.319 as cream. I've got a couple of black ones and 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:30.520 a red one, and I don't know, honestly, thinking about 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:32.200 my ferraris, I know I'm missing a couple in my 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:32.960 mind right now. 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:36.520 I don't see them in my head. They're in a warehouse. 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:38.800 What's the oldest in the newest you have? 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:41.280 Oh? 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:42.679 Well, the newest is. 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:48.080 The new s u vas call a Puerle singue, but 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:50.280 I don't have it yet, but that's the newest. 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:53.400 And before that, I have a lat Ferrari, which. 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:55.840 Rod Stewart just tried to buy from me, and I've 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:59.000 got email from him again this morning because it's the 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:01.400 color combination once and they don't make them anymore. They 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:04.640 only made four hundred and ninety of them, and he 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:07.160 wanted one, so he's trying to find a used one, 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:09.720 and nobody wants to sell them. I mean, they're we're 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:12.440 really special cars. And the oldest ones are seventy one 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:16.800 Daytona's coup three sixty five g T Daytona. 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:18.720 Convertible. 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:23.639 No, no, the convertibles are really crazy expensive. They only 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:26.520 made like twelve of those or something. Now I've got 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:30.360 a coop Okay, So why do you know so much 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:31.200 about this, Bob? 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:33.480 Yeah, and I know a little bit about it. So 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:35.320 you have them all in a warehouse? 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:39.320 Yeah? I have them a I have a warehouse, you know. 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:43.360 I have my homes have multiple car garages, you know, 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:46.160 like I keep four or five cars at different houses. 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:49.400 But I have a warehouse where I rotate them. 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:53.240 Okay, and you only have ferraris or do you have 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:54.000 other stuff too? 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:56.280 Oh? No, No, I got muscle cars. I got an 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:59.120 old ee jagg, I got a you know, a couple 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:03.680 of Shelby's, a GT Ford GT forty. I have a Cobra. 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:06.040 What else do I have? I have a sixty seven 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:11.800 Corvette uh Stingray convertible red right, Yeah, there you go. Yeah, 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:15.359 and I got you know, a few yeah, just exotics 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:15.920 and muscle. 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:16.880 It's about it. 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:19.480 Okay, are you a you know? Are you a Are 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:22.799 you a Mopark guy or a GM guy? Oh? 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:25.720 See, here you go. I'm a Ford guy. Watch yourself. Well, 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:28.799 this and that's when when I had when I had 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:32.480 my TV show, uh uh a rock Roll road Trip 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:34.520 that was one of my this or that. Are you 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:37.320 a Ford or a Chevy guy? Because the Chevy guys 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:39.520 are always kind of uptown. Ford's a little more red 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:41.160 neck like myself, you know, a little more down to 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:44.320 earth kind of guy. Uh. And the Mopark guys were 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:45.240 always the weirdos. 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:45.560 Okay. 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:47.520 They were the guys that, you know, didn't have a 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:49.880 lot of friends. They were kind of loaners. And when 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:51.760 I was in high school, that was it. My buddies 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:54.160 were Ford guys. We didn't like the Chevy guys. And 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:56.440 the more Park guys were cool because they were just 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:59.760 kind of they stayed out of any kind of fad situation, 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:01.520 you know, they weren't taking sides. 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:05.200 Yeah, okay, So your first car was. 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:08.280 Forty nine Chevrolet. 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:10.920 Forty nine Chevrolet. 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:12.640 Where did you get into? 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:14.120 What kind of condition was it in? 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:17.800 I paid fifty dollars for it, and I wasn't in 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:20.719 a very good condition and had a blown head gasket 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:23.560 and reverse had a chip in it so when you 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:25.440 put it reverse you would have to hold it in 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:28.359 there otherwise it would jump, you know, jump out of reverse. 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:30.720 Oh it was. It was really pretty rough. 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:33.040 But hey, fifty bucks to be back in those days, Bob, 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:36.480 I didn't you know, that was like real money. 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:38.960 Okay. 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:43.080 And the first car you bought once you made some money. 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:52.760 Oh okay, honestly, I think the real first car, you know, 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:56.080 was a Ferrari. Finally, you know when I when Montrose 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:59.479 got signed to our record deal in nineteen seventy three, 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:02.400 I we got fifty thousand dollars. We got I mean, 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:04.680 I mean wait, I got five thousand dollars. We got 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:07.560 fifty thousand dollars. We each took five and we bought 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:11.400 twenty five thousand dollars worth of equipment. And with my 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:15.039 five thousand dollars, I rented a house for two hundred 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:17.720 dollars a month because I was living in a really 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:20.240 bad apartment in the city. I rented a house in 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:24.120 Marin County and Mill Valley, and I bought a Citron, 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:26.719 a green Citron. 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:28.599 You know what those things are? You know they raise 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:29.360 up absolutely. 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:32.760 Would you buy the two CVX or did you buy 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:35.400 a Maserati? Which one did you buy? 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:40.080 Oh? No, it's before the Maserati, but I bought our No, 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:42.000 it wasn't before the Maserati. But no, I didn't buy 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:43.960 that was too expensive. I just bought a regular DV. 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:49.160 I think they were called dB twenty thirty one or 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:51.440 something like that. Whatever, it was just a four seater, 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:56.160 four door, and I loved that car. I mean that 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:58.960 car was so cool but very unusual. I mean it 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:01.680 wasn't very rock stars, but the real, first real car 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:02.200 about though. 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:03.919 Then I bought a Porsche. 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:06.640 I got a five thousand dollars royalty check one time, 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:08.919 and I bought a five thousand dollar Porsche. I was 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:12.000 so reckless, you know, I'd spend every penny i'd get it. 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:14.240 I'd just go spend it and say, well, hopefully i'll 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:16.960 make more. And then then I sold the Porsche, went 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:20.080 to England and to record my Red album, and I 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:23.440 bought a Ferrari in England, a right hand drive three 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:29.159 sixty three point thirty two plus two four headlight version, 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:32.520 and that car has been sold recently a couple of times. 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:36.359 It was Bluebird Blue because it belonged to Sir Donald Campbell, 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:39.560 the Bluebird racing guy, the boat guy who died in 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:42.360 the boat in Locknest, and it belonged to him. And 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:45.120 now they say it was John Lennon's car. I've seen 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:49.400 it advertised in Ferrari newsletters and stuff, you know, three 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:52.400 hundred thousand dollars. I think I went for the last 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:54.039 time I sold it for eight thousand. I bought it 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:58.080 for five sold for eight. And they say it's John 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:00.520 Lennon's car, and it can't be because there was not 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:03.279 two three point thirty g T two plus two's four 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:05.360 headline version bluebird blue. 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:08.840 Well that was white, hadn't drive. Did you take it 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:10.840 to America or just leave it in England? 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.640 Yeah? No, I brought it, brought it to America and 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:16.640 I drove it all for about ten years that way. 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:19.360 But that was before me. You said, when I made money. 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:21.760 But I hadn't made any money yet though John, I 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:24.040 mean not John, mister Lennon. 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:26.440 I hadn't made any money yet, Bob. 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:29.960 So when I finally made money, then I bought a 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:32.400 real Ferrari. You know, Well that was a real Ferrari, 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:34.560 believe me. But I mean I bought a new one. 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:36.560 I bought a five twelve boxer. 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:42.360 Okay, a couple of things. The Cituane Was it new? 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:44.440 No? 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:47.600 I think it was a sixty seven or sixty eight. 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:51.680 Maybe it was a seventy. I don't you know. I 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:54.040 don't remember much about that car, just and why I 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:56.560 bought it. I still don't know. I loved the CV 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:58.720 two but that wasn't going to work for a family car. 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:02.160 You know, that thing would barely go up. So but 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:04.440 I was in love with CV twos. I thought, man, 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:07.000 if I ever had a beach house and you know, 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:10.440 somewhere and I was, you know, I'd just drive around 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:11.920 a little CV too, and I might have to get 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:14.720 one of those down that You got me thinking about it, Okay, 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:18.440 but that's the true dB forty one something like that. 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:21.480 And that had an air suspension and it had the 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:24.680 headlights that turned. How much trouble did you have with 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:25.920 that car? 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:29.200 Oh, a lot of trouble that when the suspension went 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:31.320 out and I was I was pretty much broke on 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:34.520 my ass all through Montrose and for the next few 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:38.640 years after that after I left Montrose. But yeah, the 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:40.520 suspension went out and there was only one guy that 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:43.080 could fix it, and it was not cheap for me 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:45.240 at that time. It was probably a couple of thousand dollars, 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:48.680 and I think that's about what the car costs. The 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:50.880 car costs like twenty five hundred dollars when I bought it. 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:54.000 But it just was so bad ass. You know, that 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:57.160 car was the most comfortable, smooth riding car ever. Still 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:59.880 to today. I used to drive that from San Francisco 0:08:59.880 --> 0:09:03.160 to Los Angeles when Montrose was recording. I would drive 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:06.200 it all the way down, NonStop, one tank of gas. 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:08.360 It got like about forty miles to the gallon, a 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.480 little tiny four cylinder with one hundred and twenty horsepower maybe, 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:14.840 And it wasn't fast. It was really a dog but 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:17.640 it was really smooth. It just it was a cruiser. 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:21.559 And certain people. I've always been one of those guys 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:25.720 that if you got a certain person's attention, it's the 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:28.880 person I wanted their attention. I didn't want normal attention, 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:32.120 you know. I wanted certain kind of people. And I'm 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:35.440 still that way. I like when I drive a very 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:38.200 rare car, I might have like you know, like my 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:41.440 old Daytona. You know it's it doesn't scream. It does 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:43.280 a little bit now because it's really getting, you know, 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:47.480 a classic. But you know, somebody sees it and they go, wow, man, 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:50.280 a Daytona and they and they tripping on it. See 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:52.880 that's the kind of person. I say, yeah, I stopped 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:54.560 and have given the time to date. I don't want 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:57.079 to be screaming down the road in some Lamborghini or something, 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:59.719 some bright orange thing, you know, and it makes a 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:01.640 lot of noise, even though frays do make a lot 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:03.960 of noise. But I don't like that. I don't like 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:07.840 everybody going, hey, whoa look at that? Oh you know, uh, 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:10.520 that's embarrassing to me. It's you know, I don't know 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:12.199 what it is. I've always been that way. Even though 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:14.240 you want to be a rock star. You want everybody 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:16.680 to love you and come and see you and scream 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:19.480 for you. But in my everyday life, I don't want that. 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:21.440 How about that? 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:24.280 Were you always that person? Like growing up? 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:27.800 Yeah, I'm kind of shy, you know, in high school 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:30.760 and stuff, I was shy. You know, girls liked me 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:34.600 and I man, I was being I was always shy. 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:36.840 I wasn't like a lady's guy going hey baby, what's 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:39.679 going on. I've never been that guy, you know on 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:40.679 stage a little bit. 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:44.439 But but man, and I was, I'm shy. I turned 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:45.200 red real quick. 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:48.160 There here you go, they're not We finally hit the 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:49.360 bottom on that one. 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:55.920 Okay, But you're shy, but you want attention, and you 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:58.959 don't want the same kind of attention as everybody else. 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:01.400 You kind of want to be known as your own unique, 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:02.199 cool character. 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:06.400 Yeah, I'd say that's fair enough statement. You know, I'd 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:09.760 rather appeal to someone that gets it, you know what 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:11.959 I mean. If you don't get it, I don't need 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:16.280 your attention. You know, it's like I want to The 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:18.480 attension I want is attention that I would be willing 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:20.719 to engage with, not just to quick like, well look 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:22.720 at me, I'm cool. I'm getting all this attention and 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:25.360 walk through the room, you know, like a like a peacock. 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:29.439 You know that that's not the kind of attention I want. 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:34.440 If I attract someone, I want to know that, yeah, 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:37.000 I can communicate with this person and maybe there's something 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:37.720 to learn here. 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:39.560 You know, they get it. You know. 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:42.040 I like people that get what I get and like 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:45.200 what I like. And my fan base is getting like 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:47.480 that pretty much. I got to tell you, you know, it 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:50.040 hasn't dwindled down to that. It's just that it has 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:52.360 expanded into that. You know, it takes a long time 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:57.480 to become famous when you have a certain different kind 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:01.360 of charisma about you. I think, you know what I mean. 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:02.400 It ain't like that. I'm not. 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:04.960 I wasn't a natural born star. I had to work 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:08.199 on that shit. I'm still working on it. 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:12.680 Okay, So when you were in school, were you like 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:15.959 one of the group. Were you trying to be independent unique? 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:19.880 Uh? Yeah, I was trying to be independent unique. 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:24.040 I had my own little group, not really a big group, 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:27.480 but I had I had a few friends, but I 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:29.320 got to say, everybody liked me. 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:30.280 I was really liked. 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:33.040 One of the shortest guys in high school, and there 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:35.280 was a girl that was shorter than me, another guy 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:37.120 about my size, and that was it. 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:39.600 So we were the you know, small people. 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:42.480 But I was always really into dressing nice, like I said, 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:45.000 but not just normal what you know, I didn't go 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:48.640 I'd look for weird stuff. I was definitely kind of 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:51.120 a little bit of a weirdo. But everybody liked me. 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:53.000 All the you know, all the big job guys. They 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:55.040 would say, hey, Sammy, he's cool. You know, hey, come 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:57.480 on over and hang with us doing the lunchtime. And 0:12:57.920 --> 0:12:59.480 I'd be like, hey, it's cool, and hang with them 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:01.880 a little bit. I'll kind of a social butterfly, but 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:05.200 I never I wasn't really that sociable, but I, you know, 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:05.960 I could be. 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:08.520 I knew how to be cool and how to act 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:09.400 with the tough guys. 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:12.480 I knew how to act with the jocks, and definitely, 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:15.760 you know, I just kind of float around. But my 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:19.280 little group was works were they were kind of like 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:23.400 the losers in school. You know. They were the guys that, yeah, 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:27.520 you know, the parents were alcoholics or you know, like 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:31.800 a one guy was divorced, you know, single parent, and 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:36.760 and I kind of was attracted to the wounded, you know, butterflies, 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:40.200 you know, even even the girls. I like those girls 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:43.560 kind of better than the uptown girls, which always which 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:46.840 like me, I was really uh, you know, popular in 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:50.839 that sense. But I wasn't you know, I didn't. I didn't. 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:53.160 I did not click I did not click up. I'm 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:55.600 tripping on this myself. Now, you got me thinking I 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:58.760 was when looking back, I'm thinking, yeah, I was kind 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:01.880 of like a I had a little mistique, I think 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:04.720 going you know, I was always happy and sociable and high, 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:07.960 you know, got along with everybody. Only got one fight 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:11.000 in high school, one frigging fight the whole time when 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:12.600 high school is all we did. 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:13.880 Everybody tail was. 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:16.120 Fight, you know, And I was never the guy that 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:18.200 had to fight anybody. You know. I was always like, 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:20.520 you know, hanging out and watching a good fight. 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:23.800 So tell me about the fight. 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:28.080 It was with the littlest guy in in school. It 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:32.680 was like he was my size, you know, And so 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:36.920 the tough guys, you know, when they used to they 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:39.440 push on me to kick his ash for some reason, 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:41.400 you know, because I was supposed to be a tough 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:42.120 little guy. 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:42.360 You know. 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:44.960 My dad was a fighter, so I was always you know, 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:48.200 kind of spar and boxing and goofing off, and for 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:50.680 so finally I just picked the fire with them in 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:51.360 a parking lot. 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:52.120 Was so stupid. 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:54.520 It was like, you know, I think we both just 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:57.640 threw one punch, locked up, ended up on the ground, 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:02.120 you know, you know, and headlocks each of us, and 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:04.480 neither one of us could do anything, and finding somebody 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:06.440 said break it up, teacher's coming, and we broke it 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:08.480 up and went our separate ways. And I never even 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:11.680 I never even said anything to the guy ever again. 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:13.120 I just see him, you know, we just see each 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:14.920 other walk down the hall, just ignore each other. 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:16.720 It was so stupid. 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:18.600 It was probably the worst fight I've ever been in, 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:22.600 not that i'd been in any real viguines. 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:26.560 You talk about your father being a tough guy. What 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:28.160 did you learn from your father? 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:35.000 Well, I learned unconditional love. And I gotta tell you 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:38.960 it's the strangest thing because my dad was, you know, 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:41.680 it beat everybody up. He was a tough guy. 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:42.120 You know. 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:44.160 A cop would pull him over in the car because 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:46.520 he was drunk driving, or just he was speeding, or 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:48.920 you know, ran a stop sign, and he would just 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:51.880 get out of the car and knock the cop out, 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:54.000 just boom. He was a boxer, so he could hit. 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:56.000 He knew where to hit you, how to put your 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:58.040 lights out, so he would get out of the car 0:15:58.120 --> 0:15:59.840 and just knock the guy out, get back in the 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:02.400 car and go home. And then hare comes my dad 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:04.680 sitting in the bear on the couch, smoking a cigarette, 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:08.440 drinking a beer, you know, and the cops beat on 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:10.360 the door, come on, Robert, come on out, we know 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:12.160 you're in there, and say, yeah, fuck you, you know, 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:15.120 come in and get me. And it would be like 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:18.040 five cops, you know, they'd finally hit get up, go 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:19.520 out there, and he'd just go at it with all 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:21.520 five guys, you know, hit knock a couple of them out, 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:23.640 and they'd get him. They hit him at the belly club, 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:26.520 cut him all up, handcuff him, take him to jail. 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:29.040 He'd get out in a few days. It was a 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:32.160 small town deal. The judge knew him. It's like they 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:35.360 took his license away. They threw him in road camp. 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:37.240 He went to road camp. The longest he was gone 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:41.240 one time is for six months because he actually really 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:44.600 beat up a CHP officer and Palm Springs. He was 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:48.120 driving drunk and he knocked the guy out, but we 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.760 weren't home, so he kept going. He was going down 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:54.120 to Braley Colexico, where he had some Mexican buddies. When 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:55.880 he was a fighter, he used to he was a 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:57.880 bandon weight, so he would always be a border town 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:01.160 attraction because he was supposed to the Irish, which we 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:02.880 found out he wasn't, but. 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:06.959 I'll get it. Great thing for the Irish. 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:09.199 So they'd have the Irish against the Mexicans, you know, 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:11.560 the bantamweight fights. And Manu Artis, who was a great 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:13.600 great champ, lived down there, so he's going down there 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:16.000 to see him. So they set up a roadblock and 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:18.000 they got him, and they really worked him over, and 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:20.680 he worked them over pretty good too. And then when 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:23.200 he was in jail, he was raising so much hell 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:25.920 they come in and beat him up again. So when 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:30.280 he went to be arraigned in court, he was handcuffed. 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:34.080 I didn't see this, but the word is that he 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:38.760 jumped up on the judge his desk and kicked him 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:42.639 in the face and went to road camp for six months. 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:46.080 And it ruined his life and my mom, all of them. 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:48.879 You know, she had three kids. It was I think 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:52.320 it was before I was born. And yeah, it's a 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:54.280 tough one. I just found out a lot about it. 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:57.320 I just did finding your Roots. I did it. It's 0:17:57.359 --> 0:17:59.800 going to come out later this year. And boy, he 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:02.359 had the newspaper clippings and all that stuff, and it 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:05.399 broke my heart how rough my mom had it. But 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:09.919 my father taught me unconditional love. He made me feel 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:12.560 that I was loved more than anything on the planet, 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:15.280 and that I meant everything to him, and that he 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:18.359 made me feel like somebody. He called me champ. He said, 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:19.560 you're gonna be champing the world. 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:19.879 Someday. 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:22.920 He'd be drunk on his ass come in my room 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:25.800 to you know, at night, because him mom would be fighting. 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:29.280 He'd come in and hug me and just worship me. 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:32.320 And I got to tell you, I felt protected. I 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:36.080 felt like my dad could take care of anything, and 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:39.080 I was I wouldn't have to be afraid ever, you know, 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:43.639 growing up, except of them beat my mom up or something. 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:48.960 But it was a strange, really strange you know, balance 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:51.240 in my life that my dad. He taught me that, 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:53.640 and I thought, and I think he taught me how 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:58.200 to believe in myself because he believed in me. I'm 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:00.000 telling you, I'll be four years old. He's telling me, 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:02.840 you're gonna be champ with the world. You're gonna be somebody. 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:06.040 You're going to be somebody's son. I mean, constantly driving 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:09.200 that into my head, and I'm going, yeah, okay, you. 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:10.040 Want to be somebody. 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:13.560 I mean I really believed it, you know, and that's 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:15.679 that's that's something to learn, you know. 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:18.399 I don't know if you can teach somebody that. Well, Okay, 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:20.680 you had siblings. Did he say the same to your 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:21.720 brothers and sisters? 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:26.159 No? He didn't like my sisters. He cursed them because 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:30.320 you know, they had boyfriends. He'd you know, threatened to 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:32.680 beat up their boyfriends who they'd come to, you know, 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:35.119 try to go out and stuff when they were teenagers. 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:38.720 He was not cool to them, and he was not 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:40.880 cool to my brother, my older brother, he called him. 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:43.480 He called me muscle brain, and he called my my 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:47.280 brother flea brain. He called me champ. And he used 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:49.560 to make fun of my brother. When he would cry, 0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:53.000 he'd say, sound like a sireen. You know, he picked 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:56.240 on him. It was looking back, it was really not cool. 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:59.399 I don't know why he favored me so much. He 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:02.520 didn't like my my grandfather, my mom's dad, who was 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:07.720 a full blood of Sicilian, and my dad didn't like him. 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:11.760 And and I was named after him, sam r. His 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:15.160 name was sam ROI byo, I'm sam Roy Hagar and 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:18.920 my dad, but yet he favored me. I think that's 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:22.240 kind of funny too in itself. You know, my dad 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:24.200 chased my grandpa. 0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:26.760 Around. 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:29.879 He was chasing him. We were camping. I saw this 0:20:30.000 --> 0:20:32.159 with my own two eyes. My grandma and grandpa they 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:35.119 were big campers, and so the whole family. We were camping. 0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:38.119 My dad got drunk, got mad at my grandpa, and 0:20:38.200 --> 0:20:41.000 my grandpa took off running, was running around a car. 0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:45.800 My dad was chasing him, trying to get him, and. 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:45.560 This is true shit. 0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:50.199 And my grandma picked up a rock and tried to 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:52.720 throw it to hit a big rock, you know, like 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:55.200 as big as your head type rock to try to 0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:58.399 hit my dad just you know, take him out. And 0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:03.679 instead of hit my granda knocked tip cold bleeding and 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:06.320 my dad chilled out. He was like, oh shit. You know, 0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:08.760 he had a really good heart about him. He just 0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:14.080 had a crazy, whacked out temperature. He get hot so fast, 0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:16.400 and that's all he knew had to do is start swinging. 0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:25.880 What do you think, since you're not a young man 0:21:25.960 --> 0:21:27.879 yourself and you've lived a lot, what was going on 0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:28.320 with him? 0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:32.720 He's a super bad alcoholic. He was in World War Two. 0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:34.960 He was a paratrooper. He jumped out of an airplane 0:21:35.600 --> 0:21:40.520 and broke his jaw. He didn't he had a Tommy 0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:43.600 gun and he was shooting the gun supposedly as he 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:47.080 was coming down, because you know, he was landing in 0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:50.399 an enemy field, and he got off course, landed in 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:53.639 a tree, broke his jaw, had a couple of ribs, 0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:56.919 messed up, got left behind, lived in. 0:21:56.920 --> 0:21:59.200 A foxhole, he said, for a few days. 0:21:59.560 --> 0:22:02.960 Actually shot another man that was in another fox hole, 0:22:03.000 --> 0:22:06.600 you know, the enemy, and you know they'd take pop 0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:09.679 shots at each other, and finally he shot him. And 0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:12.280 I think it messed him up so bad to have 0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:15.160 to kill another human. And he came back and he 0:22:15.240 --> 0:22:20.600 took his When he got back into his company, he 0:22:22.080 --> 0:22:24.399 to his company commander he shot the ground and told 0:22:24.480 --> 0:22:28.000 him it made him dance. And he got dishonorable discharge. 0:22:28.000 --> 0:22:29.879 And he was never the same. My mom said he 0:22:29.880 --> 0:22:31.280 would wake up in the middle of the night and 0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:33.080 jumping up in the bench, say where's my tommy gun? 0:22:33.080 --> 0:22:36.240 Where's my tommy gun? And I could see him doing 0:22:36.240 --> 0:22:37.800 that in my head. You know, I don't think I 0:22:37.880 --> 0:22:41.560 really witnessed it, but he became a bad alcoholic. 0:22:41.720 --> 0:22:43.120 He was a boxer before that. 0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:47.840 He'd fought, you know, in the old days, practically bare knuckle, 0:22:47.960 --> 0:22:49.600 you know, it was just like a piece of leather 0:22:49.640 --> 0:22:52.440 over your hands. And he had never been knocked out 0:22:52.440 --> 0:22:56.480 in his life. He was knocked down. I think he 0:22:56.560 --> 0:22:59.920 holds a record of the most knockdowns in one round 0:23:00.040 --> 0:23:03.720 in history or something like that. And uh, he just 0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:06.520 kept getting back. Uh this before my time too. I 0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:11.880 never witnessed that. But he was fearless and uh angry, 0:23:12.520 --> 0:23:14.520 but the sweetest man in the world. But boy, when 0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:18.000 he get drinking, he would get angry. I guess I 0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:20.119 think that's what he was. He was dealing with that. 0:23:20.200 --> 0:23:22.080 He was dealing with what we see now is you know, 0:23:23.080 --> 0:23:25.359 people come back from Vietnam and stuff with this, with 0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:29.399 that same problem, you know, semi. But he had it 0:23:29.400 --> 0:23:31.639 in a day where you couldn't be a whimp. You know, 0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:34.800 you couldn't say, I'm scared. You couldn't say to him. 0:23:34.800 --> 0:23:35.600 He couldn't anyway. 0:23:35.640 --> 0:23:41.560 You know. He was that generation he belonged with. He 0:23:41.640 --> 0:23:42.840 belonged to the cowboy days. 0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:45.680 He should have had a six gun around his hip 0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:48.720 and just that should have been in That's where he belonged. 0:23:48.720 --> 0:23:50.280 He came from that era. You know. 0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:53.440 He was born in a cupboard wagon, for God's sakes, 0:23:53.440 --> 0:24:00.679 coming from Kentucky to California my grandparents with eleven other kids. 0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:04.080 He was born in Texas. Well, they were picking cotton. 0:24:04.320 --> 0:24:08.520 They were in a cupboard friggin wagon. And so he 0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:12.160 he was old school man, you know. And how long 0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:17.320 did he live? Fifty six, died in the back. 0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:21.840 Of the Did he live long enough to see your success? 0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:30.040 No? No, terrible? 0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:35.080 And whatever happened with your siblings and what's your relationship 0:24:35.119 --> 0:24:35.480 with them? 0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:40.439 Now? My brother has passed. He's three years older than me. 0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:44.000 He passed about right before COVID. Well, right in the 0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:46.840 beginning of COVID, he passed. I don't think I was 0:24:46.880 --> 0:24:50.160 from COVID. He had a lot of heart attacks and 0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:55.280 he just had breathing problems. He had heart problems, but 0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:58.480 he did fine. I mean, you know, he had some problems. 0:24:58.520 --> 0:25:01.280 I got to say, he had to stopped drinking. But 0:25:03.440 --> 0:25:06.280 he wasn't wounded as bad as you would think. Because 0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:11.000 we had such a wonderful mother. My mom raised us 0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:14.400 like to be strong people. She made us work. We 0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:15.520 worked in the fields with her. 0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:16.040 You know. 0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:19.640 She would go dig potatoes, pick apricots, you know, pick 0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:22.120 berries into berry patches. 0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:26.240 You know. We were like field workers, my whole family. 0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:29.200 And we'd go out, all four of us, right before 0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:31.159 we'd go back to school. My mom would make us 0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:33.960 go out and we'd pick fruit and pick vegetables and 0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:40.960 do yard work around then around our town. Uh, and 0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:44.240 to get money to you know, buy clothes for school. 0:25:44.960 --> 0:25:47.160 And I always dress good and I'd make my money. 0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:48.720 I knew what I wanted to. I'm on a nice 0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:51.639 pair of Levi's that customize them up. You know, I 0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:54.879 had my my thing. But my mom was wonderful, so 0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:57.040 she made us all strong and feel like we had 0:25:57.040 --> 0:26:00.280 a family with the community. After my dad and they 0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:02.920 split up, and then my dad finally died, but. 0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:08.200 My sisters both happily. 0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:12.600 My oldest sister's happily married for fifty some years to 0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:13.320 the same guy. 0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:16.000 Has wonderful kids, very family oriented. 0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:19.080 They all live in the same frigate neighborhood, all four 0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:22.400 of her kids and her very family oriented. 0:26:22.680 --> 0:26:23.119 Everyone in. 0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:28.920 My sister Velma very successful. She's started a business. She's 0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:33.440 kind of like me, she's very business oriented. And yeah, 0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:36.040 everybody's really good. We get along great. I mean, we 0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:38.840 love each other. We support each other. 0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:43.200 So when you ultimately made a good chunk of change, 0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:47.600 which you did, to what degree did you support your family. 0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:50.760 I bought my mother her first home she ever owned 0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:53.919 in her life when I got my first big record 0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:56.920 advance and made. 0:26:56.760 --> 0:27:00.040 My first tour money. And then later on I bought her. 0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:03.720 Really nice house next to my sister Valma, who had 0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:06.399 a beautiful home in Palm Desert. So I bought my 0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:12.200 mom the house next door, and they because they really 0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:15.280 got along well. And those two, my mom and my sister, 0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:19.640 and you know, when I sold my group will Campari, 0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:22.320 I basically split up a million dollars with my friends 0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:25.879 and family, so my close friends and family. 0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:35.280 Okay, so where does this entrepreneurship come from being poor? 0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:40.000 I ain't going to be that again, you know, I've 0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:40.400 been there. 0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:45.360 Uh. I think the drive that keeps me going at 0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:48.080 this stage when I don't need money, I don't need fame, 0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:50.840 I don't need fortune. I just need to be happy 0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:53.920 and content. But I'm still so driven that it kind 0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:57.760 of makes me happy to achieve. I'm achieved, achieved, nut 0:27:57.800 --> 0:28:00.840 and and I give most of the money away now 0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:02.920 that you know, from all my restaurants and stuff. 0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:07.800 But I think that drive come from just humiliation. You know. 0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:09.840 One time in high school, because my dad was always 0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:12.000 such a tough guy, such a small town, I had 0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:15.000 a girlfriend, my first girlfriend, you know, the first puppy love, 0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:16.960 seventh grade, and. 0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:19.639 I walked over to her house. 0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:21.720 I used to walk her home, you know, from school 0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:23.399 every day, and then I'd walk all the way across 0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:25.119 town to my house. I didn't want to by know 0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:27.560 where I lived because we were single parent at that 0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:30.280 stage and living in a pretty poor situation. 0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:32.280 But like I said, I had a paper route. 0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:35.399 I'd mow lawns, I would go to my family, my 0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:37.800 aunts and my uncles and drive my bicycle over there 0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:39.280 and say, can i'm move your lawa. I need a 0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:42.080 dollar you know, I need a dollar badge, you know. 0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:45.000 And so I was always you know, dressed and I 0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:47.320 so they were in school. Everyone thought I was cool, 0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:49.720 but really I was poor as shit. Our house was 0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:53.200 really bad neighborhood and we were just renting and my 0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:58.280 mom was had a really funky job, but you know, 0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:01.960 we were poor. So I would walk my girlfriend home 0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:05.560 every day from school. And then one time her mother 0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:07.560 invited me and said, oh, come in and have some 0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:08.640 dinner with us, you know. 0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:10.840 So I'm sitting there at the dinner table. 0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:16.560 Her dad walks in and my girlfriend says, hi, Daddy, 0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:22.400 this is my friend Sammy Hagar, and he goes, Hagar 0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:23.520 is your father Robert. 0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:25.200 I said, yay, he goes get the hell out of 0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:25.600 my house. 0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:28.040 My dad had beat him up in a bar and so, 0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:31.680 you know, it's like I was so humiliated from that. 0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:33.040 And then my girlfriend she. 0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:35.120 Could I couldn't come to the house and you know, 0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:38.200 she couldn't see me, and it just I think that 0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:41.520 honestly said I'm going to be somebody. I went back 0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:44.000 to my dad said I'm going to be somebody and 0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:46.040 that she ain't going to happen to me again. It 0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:49.560 was so embarrassing. It was just brutal, you know. So 0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:54.760 I think that's what still drives me. I don't know why, 0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:57.840 but I think that one moment and then a couple 0:29:57.880 --> 0:29:59.960 of times, my dad would be walking down the street 0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:02.120 drunk in the middle of the night, and I'd be 0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:04.280 out with my buddies back then. Now we got a car, 0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:06.560 and now we're looking for girls, and sometimes we'd have 0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:08.920 girls in the car, you know, and we'd be drinking 0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:10.960 the beer and stuff and cruise down the road, and 0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:13.280 all of a sudden, I'd see my dad staggering down 0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:16.240 the road. You know, he was homeless at some point, 0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:18.880 and I would go, oh shit, you know, and some 0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:20.640 guys in a car would say, a man, it's not 0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:22.600 your old man. Oh well, yeah, I know a guy 0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:24.760 who went to jail with him. And you know, I 0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:27.640 was hanging around with these loser kind of dudes and 0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:29.959 they had been in a couple of you guys, they 0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:31.520 know he'd been in jails. Yeah, I met your dad 0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:33.960 in jail. Yeah, man, he's a badass. Yeah, you know, 0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:35.640 he beat some guy up in jail, you know, and 0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:37.840 all this kind of stuff. So one side it was 0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:39.680 me saying, yeah, my dad's a badass, and as I 0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:42.520 was saying, well, this is get embarrassing, and I would, 0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:45.920 you know, so I'd go get my sister and tell 0:30:45.960 --> 0:30:48.680 her my dad was walking down see her down the street, 0:30:49.600 --> 0:30:52.160 and she'd go find him, bring him to a house 0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:54.720 and clean him up. And then he'd just steal five 0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:57.480 bucks out of her person, go out and get drunk again. 0:30:57.480 --> 0:31:01.280 He was he was completely helpless. I mean, I could 0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:03.960 help him now, but then there was nowhere to put him. 0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:07.080 We didn't know what to do. There was no alcoholic. 0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:10.600 There was alcoholic anonymous, but all of his buddies from 0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:11.800 that were just as bad as him. 0:31:11.840 --> 0:31:15.400 So you know, yeah, he gave it a shot a 0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:15.920 few times. 0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:18.160 But I think the longest here of stayed sober in 0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:21.840 my life that we remember was nine months. We actually 0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:25.760 had one year in our life that was like normal, 0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:28.760 lived went to the same school for the whole year, 0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:32.400 you know, had friends over to the house, you know 0:31:32.480 --> 0:31:35.640 that kind of thing. Yeah, it's pretty much a trip, 0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:38.240 you know, Bob, You're rolling me back through this thing 0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:38.840 pretty strong. 0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:40.840 When I wrote my book. 0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:45.600 I went through this once, and this is the closest 0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:48.280 I've come to remember and all this stuff. It's not 0:31:48.320 --> 0:31:49.800 like I try to forget it. I'm not one of 0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:52.560 those guys that bury my head in the sand. It's 0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:55.720 just that there's so much good stuff going on. I 0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:58.480 very seldom go back and think about this stuff. But 0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:01.320 I had a tough child. It didn't feel like it 0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:06.760 at the time, but it does now I'm looking back 0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:08.480 on going we were poorish. 0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:15.440 Okay, So you have built an empire, okay, with restaurants, alcohol, 0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:19.040 et cetera. The only person I can think who's in 0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:24.640 your category is Jimmy Buffett. Do you think that you've 0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:29.080 gotten the respect you deserve? Do you still want respect? 0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:30.600 What's your take on that. 0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:33.280 I don't think I will ever. 0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:37.360 Be able to satisfy that thing in myself unless I 0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:42.520 become some kind of a spiritual, enlightened person, which I'm 0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:46.520 becoming little by little. I'm becoming more spiritual and looking 0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:51.560 for enlightenment, looking for purpose and what I can do. 0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:52.600 Now. 0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:57.440 Maybe if I turn around and do enough for others, 0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:01.120 I may get over it. But other than that, no, 0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:03.880 I don't. I don't think that's a thing I can 0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:07.520 a hunger and a thirst that it can be satisfied. Because, 0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:09.480 like I said, it's not like I do this for 0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:13.360 money at all. I do it for I love it. 0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:13.800 You know. 0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:18.080 When I have an idea word, it's thought word action 0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:21.240 for me. You know, I have a thought, I tell 0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:23.440 it to myself or tell somebody else, or I write 0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:25.920 it down or talking to my phone, and then I 0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:26.600 go to work on it. 0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:28.600 I say, oh, this is great. I have something to do. 0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:32.280 It's like, you know, I love achieving and it's not 0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:36.920 like I said, it's not ego way over that I 0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:39.719 feel real good about myself. Like I don't, you know, 0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:43.800 have this ego where I I mean, I feel fine 0:33:43.800 --> 0:33:46.480 about my achievements and fine about everything I do and 0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:48.640 how would I do for other people in my life? 0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:52.400 But I'm still doing it and why I don't know. 0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:57.040 It's fun, I guess, you know, it's as much fun 0:33:57.040 --> 0:33:59.120 as being a rock star going out on stage, you know, 0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:01.200 with you know, opening up a new business and having 0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:03.840 it be successful is like you know, walking to a 0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:06.200 liquor store and seeing my booze on the counter, or 0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:09.319 walking into a bar a restaurant and looking at the bar, 0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:11.919 my booze on the back bar. Man, that's like hearing 0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:15.120 your song on the radio two hundred times, you know 0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:16.960 in montro So. I remember hearing my voice on the 0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:18.759 radio the first time. I couldn't even hear it. It 0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:22.200 was so crazy. I'm just going, I'm not, you know, 0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:23.759 I didn't know what to do. I wanted more. I 0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:25.800 wanted to feel it. I wanted to hear it. I couldn't. 0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:30.280 And it's almost that good seeing your booze and stuff 0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:35.279 and seeing your restaurant packed, you know, seeing your hotel full. 0:34:35.400 --> 0:34:39.600 You know, it's like, yeah, Jimmy, Buffet's done really well. Now, though, 0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:42.240 if Jimmy woke up with my money, it probably filed 0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:43.080 for chapter eleven. 0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:45.160 But that's a different story. 0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:50.200 Okay, but Jimmy gets a lot of respect. Are you 0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:53.120 still fighting for the respect that someone like Jimmy or 0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:54.280 someone else might have. 0:34:55.680 --> 0:34:58.360 Yeah, kind of, you know, you know what I don't like. 0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:01.160 I don't like to be disrespect It's not like I 0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:06.040 need respect as much as I maybe used to. You know, Yeah, 0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:07.759 I think that was a big deal for me, wanting 0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:12.400 to be a rock star and rich and famous and 0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:16.000 you know, but I gotta tell you. I think it's 0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:19.640 I just really don't like disrespect. You know, there's some 0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:21.960 people that just don't like me, you know, and it's 0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:24.160 going to be that way with everybody. I mean, you know, 0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:26.680 I feel like it's almost like being the president of 0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:28.839 the United States or something. You know, when you're rich 0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:32.680 and famous and have all these you know, businesses and 0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:36.120 people know it, some people don't like you for it, 0:35:36.280 --> 0:35:38.600 and that makes me mad, you know, Like there's people 0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:41.480 that don't like rich people, and I think, well, man, 0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:44.400 there's some poor people that are as bad as rich people. 0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:47.120 You know, some rich people are bad people, period. Some 0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:49.600 poor people are bad people. You can't judge a person 0:35:49.640 --> 0:35:51.839 by their money. You judge them by what they do 0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:53.640 and who they are and what they do for others. 0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:56.040 And you know how you know you can you know, 0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:58.600 look a look at Warren Buffett. I mean, he gets 0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:01.839 half of his money away. Okay, so what he still got? 0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:03.480 You know, he says, no one needs more than five 0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:08.440 hundred million dollars. What, of course not. But truthfully, it 0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:12.360 gets five hundred million dollars away, you know, to charities 0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:16.399 and build schools and hospitals, and you know, hell, he's 0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:17.160 a wonderful man. 0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:17.640 You know what I mean. 0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:21.120 If we had more people like him, the government wouldn't 0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:22.640 have to be so strapped trying to take care of 0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:24.840 all these people. So I feel like I'm one of 0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:27.719 those kind of people. I want to I want to 0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:30.080 do really good with my money, and when I open 0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:32.480 up a new restaurant and I give all that money away. 0:36:32.520 --> 0:36:34.520 I just opened up a restaurant here in Orange County 0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:39.279 at the Waterfront Hilton. It's called Kabbo Wobble Beach Club. 0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:43.520 It's my first beach club. I'm kind of morphing Kabo 0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:46.920 Wobble into beach my beach thing, Sammy's Beach Bar and 0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:49.880 grills and Sammy's Beach Bar run Beach Bar, cocktails and 0:36:49.960 --> 0:36:52.520 Kabbo Wobble. I'm melting them together. So it's Kabo Wobble 0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:54.040 Beach Club. If you see what I'm saying. That saying 0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:56.400 I'm loving this project. I want to have a beat 0:36:56.480 --> 0:36:59.080 Kabbo Wobble resort. But my point is when I opened 0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:01.799 it up, I give every every penny every month goes 0:37:01.840 --> 0:37:05.359 to Chalk Children's Hospital of Orange County. And if there's 0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:07.560 extra money where it starts being so dam much. But 0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:10.520 I'm going, well, you know, then I'm gonna give some 0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:14.480 to food banks and give them to Tillies. This Attillies 0:37:14.520 --> 0:37:17.880 thing where this really helps teenagers up. So I mean, 0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:19.719 I'm giving them money. Well I'm not even touching it. 0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:22.080 But when I walk in there and it's packed, I'm going, yes, 0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:27.319 this is so great, you know, and I see that check. Yeah, 0:37:27.360 --> 0:37:29.360 that's so you can't. I don't want nobody mad at me. 0:37:29.600 --> 0:37:31.640 I don't want nobody dogging me for that, you know. 0:37:31.640 --> 0:37:35.120 I mean, if I do. You know, I got five 0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:37.800 restaurants I do that with, and it comes to about 0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:39.920 six hundred thousand dollars a year that I give away 0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:43.239 every year for ten years, and every every gig I've 0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:46.040 ever played for the last thirteen years since I sold 0:37:46.080 --> 0:37:50.120 Cobbo Wobble Tequila for the zillion dollars I give every 0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:53.000 city I play, I give twenty five hundred dollars minimum 0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:56.160 to the local food bank every cent for you know, 0:37:57.160 --> 0:38:01.279 like twelve thirteen years. So I want to be respected 0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:05.040 for that, not not necessarily respect. I'm not asking for it, 0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:07.480 but just don't disrespect me and call me an asshole 0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:08.880 or thea ain't call me a rich shirker. 0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:10.920 Oh that folk are so rich man, you know, I 0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:14.759 hate him. Don't do that to me. That's that makes 0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:15.200 me mad. 0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:18.839 Okay, we live in an era where people are here 0:38:18.880 --> 0:38:21.560 and hate all the day long online, and you have 0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:23.880 to ignore a little bit about that. But on a 0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:26.600 higher level, tell me about a couple of times you 0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:27.680 were disrespected. 0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:34.520 Ah, nothing really comes to mind. 0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:42.160 I had a couple business partners that really try to 0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:44.799 take advantage of me and really stole from me and 0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:48.520 actually cheated me and when they knew what I was 0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:53.000 doing with my money. And I call that disrespect. 0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:54.080 You know. It's like. 0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:57.640 If I do something really nice for someone and they 0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:01.520 take advantage of that and I you know, I've got 0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:03.799 a business partner right now. I feel in the same 0:39:03.800 --> 0:39:05.359 way about a guy. I got to get away from 0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:06.960 this guy. I got to get rid of him. But 0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:10.719 I have a philosophy that you never fuck anybody like you. 0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:14.520 Just don't do that. Any situation I get in is 0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:17.920 supposed to be everyone wins, you win, I win. I 0:39:17.920 --> 0:39:20.000 don't want to win and you lose. I do not 0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:23.080 want that. I won't I won't get involved. Uh, And 0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:25.160 I don't want where you win and I lose, I 0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:29.440 won't get involved, but I have before. And so that's 0:39:30.120 --> 0:39:33.360 the ultimate goal for me is to never fuck anybody. 0:39:33.400 --> 0:39:35.560 And then so when I go into a relationship and 0:39:35.560 --> 0:39:37.200 I do something really nice for someone, say hey, you 0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:38.920 want to be my business Parker, you do this and 0:39:38.960 --> 0:39:41.520 I'll do this and we'll be partners. Yeah, shake hands, 0:39:41.680 --> 0:39:43.960 no contract, And then they turn around and fuck me. 0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:49.360 That That really that makes me mad. I mean, I'm 0:39:49.400 --> 0:39:54.120 really angry to be disrespected. That's to me, it's pure disrespect. 0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:56.080 For someone to take advantage of someone that's trying to 0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:58.520 do something nice for them, that's disrespect. 0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:04.600 Okay, you talked about Warren Buffett, and famously Warren Buffett 0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:08.920 taught Bill Gates how to be a philanthropist. Where do 0:40:09.000 --> 0:40:12.600 you get all your phillianthropical elements? Where did you learn 0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:13.400 to give back? 0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:18.000 Uh? Wow, oh boy, I got goosebumps. And I don't 0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:19.920 know if you can see these things. My hair is 0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:23.359 standing up on my body. That's how much I love 0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:27.920 giving back. This the it's man, It's what drives me 0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:30.279 now is how much more I can do? What more 0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:33.040 can I do? How can I fix that? And where 0:40:33.040 --> 0:40:36.680 it came from was I went to a charitable event 0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:40.600 that was high falutin in San Francisco, long long time ago, 0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:45.080 I want to say fifteen years ago or more. 0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:49.239 It was for a Painted Turtle, which is. 0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:52.799 An organization that's kind of like Make a Wish where 0:40:52.800 --> 0:40:56.160 they build this little village and playground type thing for 0:40:56.320 --> 0:41:00.239 children that are dying, have termally ill and which my 0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:04.920 biggest my biggest concern is determinedly ill children that parents 0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:08.920 cannot keep supporting them. They've run out of insurance or whatever. 0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:11.239 That child has only got a couple of years to live. 0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:16.719 Who but Paul Newman. They showed a little clip and 0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:22.200 they showed Paul Newman. He was just leaning on a counter, 0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:25.240 had a beer in his hand. It was at a race. 0:41:25.800 --> 0:41:28.640 He had his race thing on and it was he 0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:31.520 was pasted already, but it was just an old clip 0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:33.719 where he was part of the paintal I think that 0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:37.200 was his one of his main things. And he said, 0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:43.640 when we see when you see a situation of someone 0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:48.880 in a position that you can help, a bad situation, 0:41:49.120 --> 0:41:53.400 that you can actually do something about it, and you don't. 0:41:53.719 --> 0:41:56.000 He goes, I couldn't live in myself. 0:41:56.320 --> 0:41:59.279 So he saw a situation that he thought, well, I'm 0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:01.480 in a position I can actually help that. 0:42:01.560 --> 0:42:02.719 I can change that, you know. 0:42:03.040 --> 0:42:05.919 And that's how he got in the hook in philanthropy. 0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:08.680 He thought, you know, and I thought to myself, Wow, 0:42:08.680 --> 0:42:11.440 what a beautiful thing. I just hit home with me 0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:14.160 that if you see something a person that's in a 0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:17.640 bad situation, it's like, you know, an elderly lady falling 0:42:17.680 --> 0:42:20.239 down in the street, you stop your frigging car and 0:42:20.280 --> 0:42:21.560 you get out and you help that lady, you know 0:42:21.600 --> 0:42:21.919 what I mean. 0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:24.840 It just hit home with me. 0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:26.880 So I just thought, man, I'm in a position now 0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:28.920 where I can actually start doing something. So I started 0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:31.359 the found I looked into it and I found out, 0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:34.160 you know, you give a dollar because you have to 0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:37.160 pay taxes on it. So I thought, well, that's stupid. 0:42:37.440 --> 0:42:39.680 You know, that's horrible. You know, I want them. I 0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:41.520 want that person to have all that money, you know 0:42:41.560 --> 0:42:42.920 what I mean. If I if I got a Ford 0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:44.640 one hundred dollars, I want them to have the full 0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:47.799 hundred dollars. So someone, my attorney, told me about you know, 0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:50.680 you started a foundation, and I said, oh shit. I 0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:53.759 looked into it, started to hag our family foundation, and 0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:57.040 that's how I give money away. It's it's just it's 0:42:57.040 --> 0:43:02.439 really wonderful because my foundation and is not one where 0:43:02.440 --> 0:43:06.239 I allow people to give me money. I tell everyone, no, no, no, 0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:08.480 I don't want you money. I earn my own money, 0:43:08.680 --> 0:43:11.160 I put it in my foundation and I give it away. 0:43:11.360 --> 0:43:14.080 You just come and buy my tickets, you buy my booze, 0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:16.040 you come to my restaurants, and I'll take care of 0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:17.839 the other thing. Don't try to write me a check, 0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:20.160 you know, because you start taking other people's money. Now 0:43:20.160 --> 0:43:22.560 you're that's a rough gig man. I don't want to 0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:26.640 be that responsible, you know. So my idea of philanthropy 0:43:26.760 --> 0:43:30.120 is not raising money through other people. But I go 0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:32.919 play music like acoustic work cure. I do it every 0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:35.920 year and except in COVID. We just race finally hit 0:43:35.960 --> 0:43:39.759 a million dollars that we did in eight years for 0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:42.040 Children's Hospital for. 0:43:43.680 --> 0:43:46.799 The cancer. Children that are infants that. 0:43:46.800 --> 0:43:49.000 Are born with brain tumors and they have to be 0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:52.200 radiate it and their parents got to stay with them 0:43:52.239 --> 0:43:54.120 for months a brand new baby. You know, you can't 0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:55.759 just drop it off, say okay, we have to go 0:43:55.760 --> 0:43:57.480 back to work and go home. A lot of people 0:43:57.520 --> 0:43:59.600 come from out of town to UCSF where they have 0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:04.120 a wonderful division of gene knockemora. She's doing wonderful research 0:44:04.160 --> 0:44:08.880 where she's dealing with the toxins of radiation and getting 0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:11.120 rid of them and getting immune system back up so 0:44:11.160 --> 0:44:14.720 that the tumors don't come back, because otherwise radiation ninety 0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:18.920 percent of the time tumors come back. So I'm supporting 0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:21.960 that so she can have a assistant, so she can 0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:22.560 spend more. 0:44:22.400 --> 0:44:23.080 Time in the lab. 0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:28.080 And the money though that from this concert, then we 0:44:28.800 --> 0:44:30.960 support the parents that need a place to stay that 0:44:31.000 --> 0:44:33.600 we can't afford to stay in San Francisco for a month, 0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:35.759 you know, say yeah you can't, I'll take care of that, 0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:38.920 you know. So it's really grassroots stuff. That's the way 0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:41.640 I like to do it. But so far now we've 0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:43.520 raised a million dollars one hundred thousand dollars a year. 0:44:43.560 --> 0:44:46.560 Fifty goes to the assistant and fifty goes into the 0:44:46.600 --> 0:44:51.040 tank to support, you know, families. So that's the way 0:44:51.040 --> 0:44:52.799 I like to do it. I say, look, i'll play 0:44:52.800 --> 0:44:54.440 the music. We're not going to show you pictures of 0:44:54.480 --> 0:44:56.760 babies dying. We're not going to have a silent auction, 0:44:57.000 --> 0:44:59.160 We're not going to ask for donations. You come to 0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:02.400 the concert, Bob, we're taj Mahal joon't bias. Sammy Hagar, 0:45:03.800 --> 0:45:07.680 Chris Isaac and Mike Anthony did it this year and 0:45:07.719 --> 0:45:09.719 it's just like it sells out in five minutes at 0:45:09.719 --> 0:45:13.080 the Fillmore. Every penny goes except for the expenses, you know, 0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:13.960 right to the college. 0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:16.000 And that's the way I like to do it. Man, 0:45:16.000 --> 0:45:17.200 That is so cool. Same thing. 0:45:17.239 --> 0:45:19.520 You open up a restaurant, Come love the food. I 0:45:19.640 --> 0:45:21.439 guarantee the food and drink's gonna be good. You gonna 0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:23.600 hear my music. It's gonna be the food that I eat. 0:45:24.239 --> 0:45:26.839 And I give the money away. Don't try to give 0:45:26.840 --> 0:45:29.360 me your money. I don't want your money because that's dangerous, 0:45:29.400 --> 0:45:32.080 you know. I mean, but if you give it away 0:45:32.120 --> 0:45:34.279 and it got ripped off, it was a bad deal. 0:45:34.440 --> 0:45:34.640 You know. 0:45:34.760 --> 0:45:37.440 It's like you never know. There's there's plenty of crooks 0:45:37.480 --> 0:45:39.520 and philanthropy folks. Let me just tell you that much 0:45:39.600 --> 0:45:42.600 right now. It's harder to give money away than it 0:45:42.640 --> 0:45:45.320 is to make it. How about that, Bob. That's Sammy 0:45:45.320 --> 0:45:49.120 Hagar's philosophy. I can make money easy, giving it away 0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:49.760 is tough. 0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:52.000 Man. You got to make sure it's right. 0:45:52.239 --> 0:45:55.640 You know, that would be disrespect if you gave somebody 0:45:55.680 --> 0:45:56.920 some money for something. 0:45:56.680 --> 0:46:01.399 Like that and they misused it. Who see, I got 0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:05.480 to ax to grind here. There's something my dad taught me. 0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:07.000 Maybe I learned that from my dad too. 0:46:14.400 --> 0:46:18.440 Okay for you to get into a business, you know, 0:46:18.560 --> 0:46:21.200 I get so caught up making sure everything's right that 0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:25.040 I don't do it. So to what degree do you 0:46:25.360 --> 0:46:28.480 vet what's going on or you just say we're going 0:46:28.680 --> 0:46:30.280 we're going to fix the problems after. 0:46:31.520 --> 0:46:35.400 Yeah, I'm stupid like that. That's my downfall. I have 0:46:35.520 --> 0:46:38.120 no downside. I can't even see a downside. When I 0:46:38.160 --> 0:46:40.560 see a vision of a business and I see all 0:46:40.600 --> 0:46:42.319 the way to the end of the tunnel, you know, 0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:44.560 it's not I never just it's never. Just first thing, 0:46:44.840 --> 0:46:47.960 I say, oh, that's a good idea, and then I say, 0:46:48.040 --> 0:46:49.560 oh but oh. 0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:52.080 Oh oh, oh, oh yeah, and oh man. 0:46:51.960 --> 0:46:54.480 And then it just starts flying. And when it starts flying, 0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:56.719 I say, somebody say, well what if what do you 0:46:56.719 --> 0:46:59.799 mean what after? This can't lose There's no downside, you know. 0:47:00.120 --> 0:47:03.560 That's my biggest fault as a businessman. That's why I 0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:05.520 tell people I'm not as good a businessman as you think, 0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:09.080 because I never weigh it. I mean I was starting 0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:12.160 to now a little bit. But I never do anything 0:47:12.160 --> 0:47:14.480 though until I find the guy. I always find the 0:47:14.480 --> 0:47:17.359 guy first. It's all about finding the guy to run 0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:19.279 the business. And that's where I need to partner that 0:47:19.320 --> 0:47:24.520 I can trust and that won't disrespect my vision. And 0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:29.040 I've had that happen a few times. But that's the 0:47:29.080 --> 0:47:31.480 most important thing, is finding the guy. I can't do 0:47:31.560 --> 0:47:34.799 it every day. I just have one meeting a month 0:47:34.880 --> 0:47:38.600 with my companies, and I just go out with the tattoos, 0:47:39.120 --> 0:47:41.400 you know, and I get the tattoos for promotion. 0:47:41.520 --> 0:47:42.360 I wear the shirts. 0:47:42.360 --> 0:47:43.800 I'm not wearing one now because I didn't want to 0:47:43.800 --> 0:47:46.759 insult you by wearing one promoting one of my businesses. 0:47:50.920 --> 0:47:55.800 Okay, so before you got involved, it was called Cabo 0:47:55.960 --> 0:48:00.680 San Lucas, not Cabo, and it was really sleepy. I 0:48:00.680 --> 0:48:02.920 mean I literally think you gotta get you get credit 0:48:02.960 --> 0:48:06.960 for building up Cabo. What did you see and how 0:48:06.960 --> 0:48:08.040 did that all come together? 0:48:08.880 --> 0:48:11.480 Well, boy, Bob, that was a vision. That's a dream 0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:15.160 I never had. Keith Richards got married down there to 0:48:15.200 --> 0:48:17.560 Patty Hanson. I think it is her name Patty, and 0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:20.480 they got married and I saw in People magazine a 0:48:20.520 --> 0:48:24.480 picture at their wedding of an infinity pool with the 0:48:24.480 --> 0:48:27.920 ocean in the background, a palm tree and a cactus, 0:48:28.760 --> 0:48:30.640 and I went, where in the hell is that my 0:48:30.680 --> 0:48:34.920 favorite thing? Ocean desert? You know, A palm tree man. 0:48:35.160 --> 0:48:38.720 You know, I got a philosophy. If palm trees don't grow, Sammy, 0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:44.400 don't go. You know, I'm a beach nut. I'm a 0:48:44.480 --> 0:48:48.160 beach nut. I love it, and I love the desert, 0:48:48.239 --> 0:48:51.239 you know. And there they were, was, you know, and 0:48:51.280 --> 0:48:54.000 I thought, where is this? So I went and it 0:48:54.040 --> 0:48:56.560 was one flight in a week, one flight out a week, 0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:58.600 you know, flew in, picked up people took him out 0:48:58.800 --> 0:49:01.640 from San Francisco, and you know, but and then I 0:49:01.680 --> 0:49:05.080 had a There was no phones, no TVs, no nothing. 0:49:05.160 --> 0:49:08.239 Three hotels. I stayed at the Twin Dolphins. I fell 0:49:08.280 --> 0:49:11.560 in love. I just fell in love. So I'd go 0:49:11.640 --> 0:49:14.520 there as much as I could. And I was there 0:49:14.560 --> 0:49:17.160 one year and I said to I made friends with 0:49:17.200 --> 0:49:19.759 the matri d there. That the guy that was kind 0:49:19.760 --> 0:49:21.920 of the bellman. He took care of everything at this 0:49:22.160 --> 0:49:24.360 little resort, very small resort, fifty rooms. 0:49:24.719 --> 0:49:28.759 And I said, hey, uh, I need to make a 0:49:28.760 --> 0:49:29.239 phone call. 0:49:29.280 --> 0:49:32.839 Man. You know, somebody came down with a newspaper and 0:49:32.880 --> 0:49:34.840 they said the stock market had crashed. 0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:36.880 It was like an eight. I guess. 0:49:38.320 --> 0:49:42.920 Seventy nine eighty. Something had happened economically. Not that I 0:49:42.960 --> 0:49:45.200 was worried about my money, but I was worried, what's 0:49:45.239 --> 0:49:48.960 going on? You know, I heard these guys talking pool side. Yeah, man, 0:49:48.960 --> 0:49:50.120 it's well yeah, yeah, you know. 0:49:50.080 --> 0:49:50.439 What I said. 0:49:50.480 --> 0:49:51.680 I said, hey, I want to go make phone but 0:49:51.719 --> 0:49:54.760 I wanted to call my my manager, my accountants or somebody. 0:49:55.040 --> 0:49:56.839 So he said, I got to take you into town. 0:49:57.120 --> 0:49:58.160 So it was a dirt rope. 0:49:58.200 --> 0:49:59.880 He took me into town, had to go down to 0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:04.800 you were royals, about six miles into town. Seven miles 0:50:04.800 --> 0:50:07.720 into town. You go to a to the phone company. 0:50:08.040 --> 0:50:10.560 You gave him the money. An operator said it's going 0:50:10.640 --> 0:50:12.640 to cost you this much to talk for three minutes. 0:50:12.680 --> 0:50:16.000 I says, okay, gave her the paesos. She plug it in, 0:50:16.239 --> 0:50:19.720 dial it up, gave me the phone and I said, wow, 0:50:19.880 --> 0:50:24.440 I saw downtown. I'm going, holy shit, this face is unbelievable. 0:50:24.480 --> 0:50:27.400 There's nothing here. There's palapa roos. And he goes, oh, 0:50:27.520 --> 0:50:29.680 let's go house some tacos. I know, this great little shock. 0:50:29.920 --> 0:50:33.279 I mean these are shocks, no windows, no air conditioning, 0:50:33.680 --> 0:50:37.200 dirt floor, chickens running around. Went into this place with 0:50:37.280 --> 0:50:41.200 je and he goes, I said, what do you what 0:50:41.239 --> 0:50:41.719 are you going to have? 0:50:41.800 --> 0:50:43.480 He goes toyo. 0:50:44.760 --> 0:50:48.840 The owner of this little thing was called Gudalajara. 0:50:48.000 --> 0:50:50.520 And he goes, Boyo, there's sickens running around. 0:50:50.640 --> 0:50:53.399 I swear went back and killed the damned chicken, put 0:50:53.440 --> 0:50:57.239 it on the grill, and I'm glad. This is unbelievable. 0:50:57.280 --> 0:51:00.360 You hear the chicken back there, you know. And I 0:51:00.520 --> 0:51:03.440 just fell a love and then another. So I made 0:51:03.520 --> 0:51:06.640 him take me into town. A couple other times, I'd 0:51:06.680 --> 0:51:08.319 come down there and stay for two weeks at a time. 0:51:08.600 --> 0:51:10.680 And I came in and we went right back to 0:51:10.719 --> 0:51:13.800 the same restaurant, and there's two little kids. 0:51:14.239 --> 0:51:14.799 At this time. 0:51:14.840 --> 0:51:16.960 You can see lands in You can look at the 0:51:17.000 --> 0:51:19.279 marina and nothing, no hotels, no nothing down there. There's 0:51:19.480 --> 0:51:23.600 hotels but Solomar and Finisteric where Keith got married. 0:51:23.920 --> 0:51:24.759 We're at the other end. 0:51:24.800 --> 0:51:26.480 So we're right there in the strip on the on 0:51:26.560 --> 0:51:29.960 the marina, and two little boys had a stick stuck 0:51:30.000 --> 0:51:33.279 through swordfish eyes right through his eyes. And they were 0:51:33.400 --> 0:51:36.399 each had the stick and if the swordfish probably weigh 0:51:36.400 --> 0:51:40.120 one hundred pounds. And they were dragging it down the 0:51:40.200 --> 0:51:44.239 road into these little shack restaurants and they had had 0:51:44.280 --> 0:51:47.280 slices taken out of it, chunks was bleeding and stuff, 0:51:47.320 --> 0:51:50.560 you know. And I'm going, whoa. And they come by 0:51:50.800 --> 0:51:53.560 where we're sitting. The owner of the restaurants, Scott, starts 0:51:53.560 --> 0:51:55.399 talking to him and he comes to us. They said, 0:51:55.440 --> 0:51:59.080 you guys want Marlon said, yeah, hell yeah, cuts a 0:51:59.120 --> 0:52:02.120 couple slashes off, give us the kids some paesels, throws 0:52:02.160 --> 0:52:04.479 it on the grill. Dude, I fell in love. Didn't 0:52:04.480 --> 0:52:07.480 you hear a mariachi band? You're drinking shots at tequila? 0:52:07.880 --> 0:52:11.239 I said, I'd have found fucking paradise. And I said, 0:52:11.239 --> 0:52:12.719 I want to build. I want to buy a piece 0:52:12.719 --> 0:52:14.680 of land. I want to build a little PLoP a 0:52:14.719 --> 0:52:17.360 bar down here and sell real tequila because I had 0:52:17.400 --> 0:52:21.479 tasted real tequila and Jorge found the spot. I bought 0:52:21.480 --> 0:52:24.000 it for one hundred thousand dollars. I built the Cabo 0:52:24.080 --> 0:52:28.600 Wobble for two hundred and sixty three hundred thousand dollars 0:52:29.560 --> 0:52:32.560 and it makes that much a month. You know, it 0:52:33.160 --> 0:52:35.840 just it just was the biggest gold mine ever in 0:52:35.880 --> 0:52:38.360 the history. And the first three years it lost money. 0:52:39.000 --> 0:52:41.200 You know, it was because there was no people down there. 0:52:41.200 --> 0:52:43.120 You know, It's like so then they finally paved one 0:52:43.120 --> 0:52:44.960 of the roads, and then they put a new hotel up, 0:52:44.960 --> 0:52:46.759 and then they did this, and then they did that. 0:52:47.239 --> 0:52:51.120 And now I still Lovekabo, but it is so fricking 0:52:51.680 --> 0:52:55.600 here's hotel, hotel, hotel hotel. When I when I first 0:52:55.680 --> 0:52:58.400 went there, there was occupancy was six thousand people between 0:52:58.480 --> 0:53:01.520 locals and all the hotel rooms between San Jose Delcabo 0:53:01.560 --> 0:53:04.600 and down talk about six thousand people. Now there's half 0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:08.040 a million people, and it's crazy. But I still love 0:53:08.080 --> 0:53:10.280 the hell out of it. It was a weird vision. 0:53:10.320 --> 0:53:12.520 I just fell in love. It was pure passion. I 0:53:12.960 --> 0:53:14.480 had no idea I was ever going to make a 0:53:14.480 --> 0:53:16.759 penny or ever going to make tequila. 0:53:16.840 --> 0:53:18.560 I mean, that's a dream. I did not dream. 0:53:18.880 --> 0:53:22.840 That dream was never dreamt and everyone thought I was crazy. 0:53:22.920 --> 0:53:29.320 I broke a band up, I lost an accountant. People 0:53:29.400 --> 0:53:31.440 just quit on me when I was doing that project. 0:53:31.440 --> 0:53:34.200 You know, Van Halen were going nuts, you know, you 0:53:34.760 --> 0:53:36.759 they went down there and there was no phones in 0:53:36.880 --> 0:53:39.760 anything yet, you know. And they were staying at a hotel, 0:53:39.840 --> 0:53:42.319 no room service and stuff, and they were freaking out. 0:53:42.320 --> 0:53:43.080 They didn't like it. 0:53:43.320 --> 0:53:46.400 It's so funny when I think back, because now they 0:53:46.440 --> 0:53:46.960 would love it. 0:53:47.040 --> 0:53:51.080 Well legend is, and you know the truth who knows, 0:53:51.120 --> 0:53:54.160 because I certainly don't. Was they were invested and then 0:53:54.200 --> 0:53:56.040 they freaked out and got angry at you, and you 0:53:56.120 --> 0:53:56.919 had to buy them out. 0:53:56.960 --> 0:53:58.240 What really happened there. 0:53:58.800 --> 0:54:02.000 Well, it wasn't even a biot. We were in debt. 0:54:02.360 --> 0:54:05.040 The Kabbo Wobbo was in debt once again. I had 0:54:05.040 --> 0:54:09.200 a bad manager partner down there. It became very heavy 0:54:09.200 --> 0:54:13.879 into drugs and he lost everything and the government came. 0:54:14.200 --> 0:54:17.080 He wasn't paying the vendors. We weren't making money, but 0:54:17.160 --> 0:54:19.280 he wasn't. He was ordering the beer and the food 0:54:19.360 --> 0:54:22.439 and the but he wasn't paying anybody. So they shut 0:54:22.520 --> 0:54:24.480 him down. They came to put a red a yellow 0:54:24.520 --> 0:54:28.880 ribbon around. The government confiscated the Cobbo Wobbo. And I 0:54:29.000 --> 0:54:32.040 was on tour and we got I said, hey guys, 0:54:32.040 --> 0:54:34.080 we got to kick in some money. We owed eighty 0:54:34.120 --> 0:54:38.640 thousand dollars. He had about eighty thousand dollars debt, so 0:54:38.800 --> 0:54:40.640 I could call a friend down there, you know, hoard 0:54:40.680 --> 0:54:42.520 hand guys, and I said, hey, go down and see 0:54:42.520 --> 0:54:44.239 what's going on. I said, yeah, you got we need 0:54:44.280 --> 0:54:46.600 you need to pay eighty thousand dollars to get the 0:54:46.680 --> 0:54:49.640 keys back, you know. And the guy took off that 0:54:49.840 --> 0:54:51.560 was that he did it. He was out of tech. 0:54:51.600 --> 0:54:55.680 He just took out it. And so, uh, they said. 0:54:55.480 --> 0:54:55.840 Fuck you. 0:54:55.960 --> 0:54:57.920 This is your deal man. You're a problem man. You 0:54:58.000 --> 0:55:00.960 deal with it. And I said, wow, not cool. They 0:55:00.960 --> 0:55:04.799 said let them. They said, let them have it, let 0:55:04.840 --> 0:55:06.759 the government out. We don't want nothing to do with 0:55:06.760 --> 0:55:09.480 this anymore. They had already put in about ten twenty 0:55:09.480 --> 0:55:12.279 grand apiece over the years and three years every now 0:55:12.320 --> 0:55:14.360 and then say okay, everybody's got to kick in ten grands, 0:55:14.360 --> 0:55:16.000 you know, or we need twenty grand to keep the 0:55:16.040 --> 0:55:19.160 doors open. And they didn't like that either, but I 0:55:19.200 --> 0:55:21.920 didn't either. But it wasn't that much money. For God's sake. 0:55:22.000 --> 0:55:25.279 We're in van Hale on this days. So they said, 0:55:25.320 --> 0:55:28.600 let them keep it, and I said no. So I said, okay, 0:55:28.760 --> 0:55:33.120 I'll take it. So they indemnified, you know, maybe indemnify 0:55:33.200 --> 0:55:35.240 them if there was a lawsuit they'd want no trouble, 0:55:35.719 --> 0:55:41.440 so they gave it to me and it was yeah, 0:55:41.880 --> 0:55:44.919 it really it really put it. Then when it took off, 0:55:45.040 --> 0:55:47.560 like a year later, it started really the town grew. 0:55:48.040 --> 0:55:49.480 You know, Ednall are going. 0:55:49.600 --> 0:55:50.279 You fuck her? 0:55:50.480 --> 0:55:54.719 You know you you ran it into the ground so 0:55:54.760 --> 0:55:56.439 that you could get it back from us. And I'm going, 0:55:57.000 --> 0:56:00.400 you guys, if I was smarter, I wouldn't. I wouldn't 0:56:00.400 --> 0:56:01.040 need you guys. 0:56:01.120 --> 0:56:01.319 Man. 0:56:01.760 --> 0:56:04.040 You know, it was like god, it just really got it. 0:56:04.360 --> 0:56:06.600 They got really angry about that when it started really 0:56:06.640 --> 0:56:09.479 becoming popular. You know, people would we'd be on tour 0:56:09.520 --> 0:56:11.880 and uh and people would come see us in a 0:56:11.880 --> 0:56:14.360 hotel say, oh, man, we loved the kabba wabble. We 0:56:14.400 --> 0:56:16.360 were there, o man, so fucking great. And they'd be like, 0:56:18.080 --> 0:56:21.080 you know, so because trouble. It didn't I didn't say 0:56:21.080 --> 0:56:22.759 it broke the band up, but it didn't help. But 0:56:23.400 --> 0:56:26.520 keep things, you know, with my divorce coming up after 0:56:26.560 --> 0:56:28.920 that and all that that, you know, the band just 0:56:29.440 --> 0:56:32.959 and Leffler died and then that band was over. 0:56:33.600 --> 0:56:36.680 You know, tell me about starting the Tequila. 0:56:38.480 --> 0:56:42.120 Well, when I first went to Cabo, the first thing 0:56:42.160 --> 0:56:44.440 it happened to me, it was I had a real margarite, 0:56:44.480 --> 0:56:47.400 a hand squeeze line good fresh sea salt on the 0:56:47.480 --> 0:56:56.080 rim control, uh, and real tequila. And I said, man, 0:56:56.840 --> 0:56:59.480 before that I was I never really had a real marguerite, 0:56:59.480 --> 0:57:02.359 you know, mixer, you know, and uh, it blew my mind. 0:57:02.360 --> 0:57:03.680 I said, this is the best speaker I've ever had 0:57:03.719 --> 0:57:06.160 in my life. What's in it? Blah blah blah blah 0:57:06.160 --> 0:57:08.359 blah blah. Oh, let me see that tequila. And it 0:57:08.400 --> 0:57:11.120 was just some you know, one hundred percent of goby tequila. 0:57:11.160 --> 0:57:12.840 I don't even know what it was. At that time, 0:57:13.040 --> 0:57:15.360 there were no one hundred percent of goby tequilas in America. 0:57:15.440 --> 0:57:18.040 There was every everything was meek. Still, it's fifty one 0:57:18.080 --> 0:57:20.600 percent tequila, forty nine percent whatever you want to put 0:57:20.600 --> 0:57:22.400 in there to make it, make it brown, make it 0:57:22.440 --> 0:57:26.000 look like it's aged, and make it sweet and make it, 0:57:26.160 --> 0:57:29.440 you know whatever. Anyway, the headache stuff, so you know, 0:57:29.480 --> 0:57:33.520 I had that disease like everyone else. You you know, Oh, 0:57:33.560 --> 0:57:35.360 I can't drink tequila. No, it's I had the worst 0:57:35.400 --> 0:57:36.800 hangover in my life on tequila. 0:57:36.840 --> 0:57:37.120 Don't know. 0:57:37.200 --> 0:57:38.760 Thanks, you know, then all of a sudden I taste 0:57:38.800 --> 0:57:40.440 pure a hundred percent of goby Tica. I go, man, 0:57:40.480 --> 0:57:42.480 I've never had anything like this. I never had a 0:57:42.480 --> 0:57:45.320 margarita like this. So I was getting ready to look 0:57:45.400 --> 0:57:48.560 to buy a condo. So I finally built a condo 0:57:48.720 --> 0:57:50.600 unit down here. The roads were still dirt and everything. 0:57:50.640 --> 0:57:53.400 So I was going to go buy this condo. And 0:57:53.480 --> 0:57:56.560 I said, uh uh, while we're in Gualajara, let's we 0:57:56.600 --> 0:57:59.280 were starting construction on the coppoll. Let's go to Gualajara 0:57:59.280 --> 0:58:02.320 and let's look at furniture because it's really cool, artistic town. 0:58:02.680 --> 0:58:04.840 Gualahara has got some of the coolest shops. It's like 0:58:04.920 --> 0:58:11.040 Rodeo Drive, but it's of Mexico. And I so Guy said, 0:58:11.080 --> 0:58:14.080 let's go to Tequila Horterhay, my partner who's still my partner, 0:58:14.120 --> 0:58:16.320 by the way, who still runs the cantina, who's still 0:58:16.320 --> 0:58:19.240 you know, he's he's rich now too, from a bellman. 0:58:19.560 --> 0:58:21.560 I told him you're going to be my partner, and 0:58:21.600 --> 0:58:25.880 he never fucked me. We're still partners. It's a beautiful story. 0:58:25.880 --> 0:58:28.560 I mean, I love him and his family. Without him, 0:58:28.600 --> 0:58:30.920 I wouldn't wouldn't have made it through all that. So 0:58:32.080 --> 0:58:34.320 he said, let's go to Gualahara. I've said, friends there, 0:58:34.400 --> 0:58:37.360 let's take us for some tequila tastings. So I went 0:58:38.000 --> 0:58:40.120 and I saw what tequila, how it's made, and I 0:58:40.160 --> 0:58:42.840 saw rila gave and I saw him cooking it, and 0:58:42.880 --> 0:58:45.360 I saw him doing all this stuff, and we stayed 0:58:45.360 --> 0:58:48.200 and we so we stayed there a few days, and 0:58:48.360 --> 0:58:50.000 I said, I want to start my own tequila. I'm 0:58:50.040 --> 0:58:53.160 going to make Cacabo wabble tequila. And we went around, 0:58:53.360 --> 0:58:55.760 went back. I had an airplane at that time, a 0:58:55.760 --> 0:58:59.000 small plane, but you know, a turboprop that I used 0:58:59.040 --> 0:59:00.840 to take down there. So we fly straight over to 0:59:00.840 --> 0:59:03.320 Gualajara and spend a few days and fly back. And 0:59:03.480 --> 0:59:08.520 I had my condo and we we went around knocking 0:59:08.560 --> 0:59:13.880 on doors, and one family said, yeah, we'll we'll make 0:59:13.920 --> 0:59:16.840 tequila for you, bring us to bottles. And I'm going, oh, 0:59:17.520 --> 0:59:20.040 you know, I was tasting all these tequilas. I mean 0:59:20.080 --> 0:59:23.040 it was take your ivan bottle, dump the water out, 0:59:23.320 --> 0:59:24.960 take it out of their barrel, or take it right 0:59:25.000 --> 0:59:26.760 out of their bottle, and they'd let you taste it. 0:59:26.800 --> 0:59:28.280 I mean it was like that primitive. 0:59:28.320 --> 0:59:31.800 These were farmers that were growing their gave and made 0:59:31.840 --> 0:59:34.960 their own little private stash of about twenty cases a 0:59:35.040 --> 0:59:38.120 year for their family and their parties, and they sold 0:59:38.160 --> 0:59:39.960 all the agabe. So I said, well, I want you 0:59:40.000 --> 0:59:41.680 to make me tequila because that's the best tequila ever 0:59:41.720 --> 0:59:44.440 tasted in my life. And it was El Vahito who 0:59:44.480 --> 0:59:47.360 now makes Santo. I went back to them after I 0:59:47.440 --> 0:59:51.000 sold it because they changed it. So anyway, long story short, 0:59:52.120 --> 0:59:55.040 I said. They said, bring us bottles. So I said, hoory, hey, 0:59:55.080 --> 0:59:56.200 where are we going to get littles? Said? 0:59:56.200 --> 0:59:56.840 Oh, I got a friend. 0:59:57.080 --> 0:59:58.840 So I went to this bottle place with the hand 0:59:58.840 --> 1:00:02.160 blue fricking bottles and I saw blue them. I said, yeah, 1:00:02.240 --> 1:00:07.040 let's do the blue bottom. Okay, hand blown great glass 1:00:07.040 --> 1:00:09.080 in the bottom. It could cut your freaking hand on right. 1:00:09.480 --> 1:00:11.960 And they were not perfect, all of them. I took 1:00:12.000 --> 1:00:14.120 a case of bottles. They filled them up for me, 1:00:14.200 --> 1:00:17.080 put corks in them, and I brought them back to 1:00:17.240 --> 1:00:22.440 the cantinas and they were sending me samples, and pretty 1:00:22.440 --> 1:00:25.080 soon we bought these little barrels and put them all 1:00:25.080 --> 1:00:27.560 in the cantina when it first opened, and they and 1:00:27.600 --> 1:00:30.360 they sent me samples and like gas line can, like 1:00:30.400 --> 1:00:33.040 five gallon gas line can of tequila had sent it 1:00:33.280 --> 1:00:35.080 and we'd pour it into the barrels and serve it 1:00:35.440 --> 1:00:37.680 out of the barrels in. After six months you had 1:00:37.680 --> 1:00:40.600 a reprisodo. After four months you had a ripissoda. And 1:00:40.920 --> 1:00:44.440 it was just so good. It was unbelievable, handmade tequila, 1:00:44.600 --> 1:00:47.000 the biggest fat ripe of gobvis is. Before there was 1:00:47.000 --> 1:00:49.600 a shortage like now, I mean you get Gobby's this 1:00:49.680 --> 1:00:53.480 big if you're lucky, and so it was like unbelievable. 1:00:54.120 --> 1:00:57.919 It exploded, and Andrew Diaz Blue tasted it and said 1:00:58.120 --> 1:01:00.560 this A wrote a story in a mag Sea said 1:01:00.560 --> 1:01:03.360 this is one of the three best tequilas in the world, 1:01:03.880 --> 1:01:09.880 Kabawa and and all of a sudden, phones ringing, Wilson Daniels, 1:01:10.440 --> 1:01:14.760 you know, the DRC guys calling me saying we want to, 1:01:15.400 --> 1:01:17.240 you know, import your tequila. And I'm going, wow, I 1:01:17.280 --> 1:01:18.880 don't even know what to do here, you know. So 1:01:18.880 --> 1:01:21.360 it called Shep Gordon. You know, Shep Gordon is the 1:01:21.360 --> 1:01:25.160 biggest brain at that you know for me, Shep Gordon's 1:01:25.160 --> 1:01:27.320 got one of the most he thinks more out of 1:01:27.320 --> 1:01:27.880 the boxing name. 1:01:28.120 --> 1:01:29.920 So I called chef Shep. Here's what's going on? What 1:01:29.960 --> 1:01:30.440 am I gonna do? 1:01:30.760 --> 1:01:30.880 Well? 1:01:30.960 --> 1:01:32.760 Send me let me taste of tequila. I send a 1:01:32.760 --> 1:01:34.280 note Willie Nelson tastes it. 1:01:34.320 --> 1:01:34.560 He goes. 1:01:34.600 --> 1:01:37.360 Willie says, it's fucking good. I said, shep goes, I 1:01:37.400 --> 1:01:38.280 never had tequila. 1:01:38.360 --> 1:01:41.160 I'm going. Willie says, it's good. You know, it's fucking good. 1:01:41.760 --> 1:01:46.440 So so we I had to find another bottling company. 1:01:46.480 --> 1:01:47.080 I hired a. 1:01:47.040 --> 1:01:52.320 Guy in Gualajara, a guy named Julio escandone who's passed now, 1:01:52.360 --> 1:01:54.760 but he he said, I'll take care of everything down here. 1:01:54.760 --> 1:01:56.840 I'll get you the better bottles and we'll take him 1:01:57.000 --> 1:02:00.760 deliver them to the place. And and pretty soon the 1:02:00.760 --> 1:02:04.480 they're making six thousand cases of kaba waba and they're going, whoa. 1:02:04.600 --> 1:02:06.920 The farmers are going, man, were like rich, you know, 1:02:07.320 --> 1:02:10.640 and I'm going, yeah, this is awesome. And then the 1:02:10.720 --> 1:02:15.000 next year we had thirty seven thousand case order and 1:02:15.080 --> 1:02:17.400 because the tequila just exploded, not because of me, it 1:02:17.520 --> 1:02:20.440 just a patron came out and I was right behind him. 1:02:20.920 --> 1:02:25.760 So it was amazing that this little factory, I mean, 1:02:25.760 --> 1:02:28.960 these said little farmers that had a small little distillery, 1:02:29.200 --> 1:02:31.000 they grew right with me. They said, oh no, we'll 1:02:31.040 --> 1:02:33.000 do it, we'll do it, we'll do it. They bought 1:02:33.040 --> 1:02:35.440 bigger tanks. They you know, they hired they got a 1:02:35.480 --> 1:02:38.760 truck instead of honestly they had horseback and fucking carts. 1:02:38.800 --> 1:02:42.200 You know, they said they bought a truck. And I 1:02:42.240 --> 1:02:44.959 was in the tequila business and it exploded. I made 1:02:45.000 --> 1:02:49.320 money the first frigging second year. I started making money, 1:02:49.400 --> 1:02:53.160 huge profits, like you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars, 1:02:53.360 --> 1:02:56.760 and then millions and millions of dollars, and it was like, wow, 1:02:57.640 --> 1:03:01.960 it just exploded. I ever seen a luckier guy in 1:03:02.000 --> 1:03:04.200 my life. That's where I say the dream. I never 1:03:04.280 --> 1:03:07.640 dreamt the whole Cobo thing. It just was like, thank you, 1:03:07.760 --> 1:03:12.000 Keith Richards. I still haven't met I met Keith, but 1:03:12.120 --> 1:03:14.600 not in a situation where I've been able to talk 1:03:14.600 --> 1:03:15.480 to him about this. 1:03:15.960 --> 1:03:19.400 Dude, I owe you. What do you want from me? 1:03:19.840 --> 1:03:23.160 You know, I'll send you down there and give you 1:03:23.240 --> 1:03:25.640 the penthouse sweet for as long as you want it, 1:03:25.680 --> 1:03:28.760 you know, And he doesn't need my money, but I 1:03:28.840 --> 1:03:29.560 owe that man. 1:03:30.880 --> 1:03:34.800 Okay, So you had the company, you built it up, 1:03:35.240 --> 1:03:38.840 you supposedly sold it for one hundred million dollars. Usually 1:03:38.880 --> 1:03:42.840 there's a non compete, but now you're making tequila again 1:03:43.040 --> 1:03:46.400 and run too. So explain what's going on here. 1:03:47.960 --> 1:03:50.680 Well, when I sold it, I did sell it for 1:03:50.720 --> 1:03:53.000 one hundred million dollars, but I only sold eighty percent 1:03:53.040 --> 1:03:56.040 of it, so I only got eighty million dollars. And 1:03:56.080 --> 1:03:59.520 then I sold the twenty percent back to them five 1:03:59.560 --> 1:04:01.680 years later because it wasn't the kind of deal that 1:04:01.760 --> 1:04:04.919 I thought was going to be right, and it postponed 1:04:04.960 --> 1:04:07.720 me from being able to make tequila again. And I 1:04:07.840 --> 1:04:11.000 tell you, I got hooked on this game. It's really 1:04:11.160 --> 1:04:12.760 really fun and exciting. 1:04:13.080 --> 1:04:13.520 It's so. 1:04:15.400 --> 1:04:19.200 Organic and holistic, the way the process they make tequila 1:04:19.440 --> 1:04:21.760 reel together. Now, these people put everything in all these 1:04:21.760 --> 1:04:24.720 preserves and crapit, tequila, there's not There's only like seven 1:04:25.000 --> 1:04:27.120 natural tequilas on the market right now. I think In 1:04:27.880 --> 1:04:31.760 Santo's one of them, and that real tequila's made the 1:04:31.760 --> 1:04:33.920 real way. We don't put sugar in it because we 1:04:34.000 --> 1:04:36.600 use greenagabe. You know, we just wait till the agave 1:04:36.800 --> 1:04:39.080 is big enough and we you know, we pay more 1:04:39.120 --> 1:04:41.360 for it and all that stuff trim it properly. But 1:04:41.440 --> 1:04:43.600 that's a long story about the process of making. But anyway, 1:04:43.960 --> 1:04:47.320 I loved it so much that I just no matter 1:04:47.440 --> 1:04:49.479 I said, I got all this money. What the fuck 1:04:49.600 --> 1:04:52.000 am I doing? I just stuck in the bank. I 1:04:52.040 --> 1:04:54.919 started a foundation. Okay, yeah, I started giving money away. 1:04:54.960 --> 1:04:57.120 I helped a lot of people. But I'm still saying 1:04:57.120 --> 1:05:00.720 my lifestyle hasn't changed. So I bought an airplace, you know, 1:05:00.800 --> 1:05:05.520 the biggest purchase I've ever made in my life, you know, 1:05:05.960 --> 1:05:08.400 A big airplane, A nice airplane, beautiful airplane. Take my 1:05:08.440 --> 1:05:11.880 whole band in my family, go on tour. That was 1:05:11.960 --> 1:05:13.840 my only thing I did other than that. I didn't 1:05:13.840 --> 1:05:15.600 buy a new house. I already had houses. I didn't 1:05:15.600 --> 1:05:18.400 buy a new new Ferraris. I did, but I mean 1:05:18.480 --> 1:05:20.520 I would have anyway. You know, when the La Ferrari 1:05:20.600 --> 1:05:23.040 came in, I had to have that car. So long 1:05:23.080 --> 1:05:26.560 story short, it was like I thought, I liked the game, 1:05:27.280 --> 1:05:28.360 I don't like the money. 1:05:28.560 --> 1:05:30.080 You know, I'm having more fun with the game than 1:05:30.120 --> 1:05:30.800 with the money. You know. 1:05:31.120 --> 1:05:33.840 So I already had enough money, So it was really 1:05:33.840 --> 1:05:37.840 a strange thing to have that feeling where I really now, 1:05:37.880 --> 1:05:40.960 I don't have the need. I'm not money hungry anymore, 1:05:41.000 --> 1:05:44.320 you know, from being poor, so that there's life changing. 1:05:44.960 --> 1:05:46.880 So I sold it back to them so I could 1:05:47.120 --> 1:05:49.320 do a non compete. The non compete would end in 1:05:49.360 --> 1:05:52.040 five years. But in the meantime, I started a rum company, 1:05:52.080 --> 1:05:55.480 Sammy's Beach bar Room in Hawaii. And this was my 1:05:55.600 --> 1:05:59.080 big stupid idea that I still make the rum, but 1:05:59.120 --> 1:06:01.560 I had to move to Porter. I was making rum 1:06:01.760 --> 1:06:05.840 from cane in Maui. Okay, Maloi property. How much Maui 1:06:05.880 --> 1:06:09.520 property is worth, So sugar cane is like a weed. 1:06:10.200 --> 1:06:12.520 And I was They had these sugar cane farms, and 1:06:12.560 --> 1:06:15.120 I was supporting all this because they cut the sugar 1:06:15.160 --> 1:06:17.720 cane down. Take it down to the old C and 1:06:17.840 --> 1:06:20.959 H sugar factory, which had left one little department open 1:06:21.040 --> 1:06:24.880 for me, so that they could make you know, sugar 1:06:24.960 --> 1:06:28.120 out of the cane, drive it back up, make a 1:06:28.240 --> 1:06:33.480 handmade rum in Hawaii. White rum that costs by the 1:06:33.520 --> 1:06:37.040 time it hit the market was like forty nine dollars 1:06:37.080 --> 1:06:39.400 a bottle. When you can buy a bottle of white rum, 1:06:40.240 --> 1:06:45.080 you know Bacardi or any of the rum's white rum, 1:06:45.120 --> 1:06:46.920 you can buy a bottle for like nine dollars, and 1:06:46.960 --> 1:06:49.960 mine was like forty nine dollars. And people say, well, 1:06:50.040 --> 1:06:51.960 nobody drinks white rum. But I thought I was going 1:06:52.000 --> 1:06:54.480 to elevate rum the way I elevated tequila because see, 1:06:54.480 --> 1:06:56.640 I was making real tequila that people say, oh wow, 1:06:56.800 --> 1:06:58.640 this is better than any tequila have ever drank. Well, 1:06:58.680 --> 1:07:00.280 my rum is better than ay rum you drink. But 1:07:00.560 --> 1:07:02.880 nobody was wanting to pay forty nine dollars for it. 1:07:03.160 --> 1:07:05.800 I wasn't getting it in the well, and and so 1:07:06.040 --> 1:07:09.000 I said I had to move. It started getting more 1:07:09.040 --> 1:07:12.520 and more expensive. It'd be seventy dollars now. I moved 1:07:12.520 --> 1:07:16.200 it to Puerto Rico, where the real cane, you know, grows, 1:07:16.320 --> 1:07:20.520 and they make rum much less expensive and it's not 1:07:20.600 --> 1:07:23.560 as good, but it's still better than the competition because 1:07:23.680 --> 1:07:26.440 once again, I don't cut corners. I'm not having to 1:07:26.440 --> 1:07:28.600 meet margins like, oh well, well we got to raise 1:07:28.600 --> 1:07:31.000 our price because it cane. It just went up. No, no, 1:07:31.280 --> 1:07:33.800 just you know, I just won't make as much. It's okay, 1:07:33.880 --> 1:07:36.479 you know. I want to make the best cane, best rum. 1:07:36.520 --> 1:07:38.280 I don't want to use dirty cane. I don't want 1:07:38.320 --> 1:07:40.360 to use old caine. I don't want to add you know, 1:07:40.640 --> 1:07:43.840 molasses and things to it. So anyway, long story short 1:07:43.840 --> 1:07:45.640 of got in the rum business, which is not like 1:07:45.680 --> 1:07:48.520 the tequila business. The rum business has never exploded. It 1:07:48.560 --> 1:07:52.640 exploded like in the twenties. I miss I missed that ride, 1:07:52.680 --> 1:07:56.360 you know. So my rum company, yeah, it breaks even 1:07:56.400 --> 1:07:59.720 it you know, makes a couple thousand dollars here and there, 1:07:59.800 --> 1:08:02.680 but it's really not a It's just a labor of love. 1:08:02.760 --> 1:08:06.160 And I refuse to quit, you know. So I thought, well, 1:08:06.280 --> 1:08:09.919 I'm going to make these cocktails now. So I've made now, 1:08:09.960 --> 1:08:12.440 I with the trying to keep the rum thing alive, 1:08:12.640 --> 1:08:16.639 I made Sammy's Beach Bar cocktails pure Rum, pure sparkling 1:08:16.720 --> 1:08:20.240 rum ward winning gold medal Rum. Sammy's Beach Bar Rum 1:08:20.280 --> 1:08:24.040 is in those cocktails. Everyone else just puts generic alcohol 1:08:24.080 --> 1:08:26.680 in those cocktails. You know, they were beer originally, they 1:08:26.720 --> 1:08:29.160 put beer based, and they put wine based. And I 1:08:29.320 --> 1:08:32.920 was the first guy to make spirit based. And I thought, well, 1:08:32.920 --> 1:08:36.000 I'm on top of this. And during COVID, I'm doing 1:08:36.000 --> 1:08:38.639 all this right. So it's going slow, slow, you know, 1:08:38.439 --> 1:08:41.479 in mail order and phone calls and zooms. 1:08:41.960 --> 1:08:42.840 Get it all done. 1:08:43.200 --> 1:08:48.200 COVID in is and about fifty friggin the big boys 1:08:48.280 --> 1:08:50.960 came out with the cocktails now and the cans. You know, 1:08:51.280 --> 1:08:53.160 but they still don't use the good rum. They still 1:08:53.160 --> 1:08:55.839 don't use the good noun. And there's no artificial flavors, 1:08:55.840 --> 1:08:58.720 no artificial colors. Mine's the best, the best of the best, 1:08:58.840 --> 1:09:01.800 and that's way I like to do things. But the 1:09:02.200 --> 1:09:04.679 division exploded. I mean, these guys came out spending forty 1:09:04.720 --> 1:09:09.240 million dollars on a launch, you know, for Super Bowl 1:09:09.320 --> 1:09:13.320 ad for whoever came out with that limon one a 1:09:13.360 --> 1:09:15.080 smear and offer somebody anyway. You know, all the big 1:09:15.120 --> 1:09:17.320 boys came out all around me and they're crushing me. 1:09:17.600 --> 1:09:20.440 But I'm just keep my head above water. But my tequila. 1:09:20.439 --> 1:09:22.880 I went back to the same Elva Eito guy when 1:09:23.320 --> 1:09:27.479 the don compete, and I made mesquila, the world's first mesquila. 1:09:27.520 --> 1:09:30.840 Everyone was drinking mescal. It's the hip is saying, oh, mescal, mescal. 1:09:31.280 --> 1:09:33.880 I went to down to Oahaka and went to every 1:09:33.920 --> 1:09:37.680 mescal maker, the rarest ones, the most expensive ones, and 1:09:37.760 --> 1:09:39.800 I can't drink more than one shot of that stuff, 1:09:39.800 --> 1:09:41.320 and man, you feel like I smoked a cigar and 1:09:41.360 --> 1:09:44.640 licked the ashtray afterwards. So I said, I want to 1:09:44.640 --> 1:09:47.960 tone this down and I wanted to mix it with tequila, 1:09:48.439 --> 1:09:51.200 and everyone said, you can't do it. It's either mescal 1:09:51.240 --> 1:09:54.559 the made in Ohaka or tequila made in Jalisco, and 1:09:54.600 --> 1:09:56.639 I said, well, what do you mean we can blend them. 1:09:56.800 --> 1:09:59.280 The government said, no, you can't. That's illegal. There's no 1:09:59.320 --> 1:10:02.400 such thing. As I said, it's misquilla. I'm gonna call 1:10:02.400 --> 1:10:06.479 it misquilla. I fought for a year, hired lawyers, nothing. 1:10:06.560 --> 1:10:06.880 Nothing. 1:10:07.479 --> 1:10:12.759 Finally, my distiller, my old cobbo wobble Guy el Vehito, 1:10:12.840 --> 1:10:16.000 who makes Santo for me, he said, look, I can 1:10:16.120 --> 1:10:16.960 do it off premise. 1:10:17.000 --> 1:10:18.320 I can't do it my distillery. 1:10:18.840 --> 1:10:21.760 I said, okay, So we bring a truck truckload of 1:10:21.920 --> 1:10:25.840 the scallop from Wahaka. He goes to this little shack 1:10:26.400 --> 1:10:29.360 on the outskirts of Jalisco and blends it. And now 1:10:29.520 --> 1:10:31.720 they say it's okay, it's but I can't trademark it. 1:10:31.720 --> 1:10:34.200 And I said, okay, okay, so it's misquilla, but you 1:10:34.240 --> 1:10:37.040 can't trademark the name. It's like Kleenex, you know, It's 1:10:37.080 --> 1:10:40.240 like everybody calls a Kleenex, no matter what the brand is. 1:10:40.479 --> 1:10:42.920 So anyone can do it now, and a few people 1:10:42.960 --> 1:10:45.360 are doing it. But but it was the first blend. 1:10:45.439 --> 1:10:48.720 And then Guy Fieri comes knocking on my door seeing me. 1:10:48.800 --> 1:10:51.080 I thought, you said, next time you started it's a 1:10:51.080 --> 1:10:53.760 tequila company. You were going to make me your partner, man, 1:10:54.000 --> 1:10:56.360 you know what the fuck here's I said, Oh well, 1:10:56.360 --> 1:10:59.439 I forgot because I did, you know. So we had 1:10:58.479 --> 1:11:01.280 a we had a shake over the phone, and he said, 1:11:01.280 --> 1:11:03.360 now let's make real fucking tequila. I want to make 1:11:04.040 --> 1:11:07.360 Blanco Reposanto and a Yeho And we just are releasing 1:11:07.400 --> 1:11:10.040 our in Yeho right now because we put it in 1:11:10.080 --> 1:11:12.760 barrels and we aged it, write and we did everything right, Bob. 1:11:12.760 --> 1:11:14.439 I could go on and on. This would be this 1:11:14.560 --> 1:11:17.000 whole interview could be about the tequila business. 1:11:17.000 --> 1:11:17.360 It's so. 1:11:18.920 --> 1:11:22.240 It's so crazy, it exploded, and everybody and his dog 1:11:22.320 --> 1:11:26.040 has a tequila, but they have dog tequilas. The difference 1:11:26.040 --> 1:11:29.600 between a pure real tequila and the one things that 1:11:29.640 --> 1:11:36.000 are on the market now is just it's sacrilege. 1:11:38.880 --> 1:11:41.759 Okay, how's Cosamigos compared to yours? 1:11:42.960 --> 1:11:43.799 Not even close. 1:11:44.479 --> 1:11:47.400 I ordered a shot of costume because I haven't had 1:11:47.400 --> 1:11:50.960 it in probably three or four years, because I'm not 1:11:51.000 --> 1:11:51.360 a fan. 1:11:52.280 --> 1:11:53.280 Nothing against those guys. 1:11:53.280 --> 1:11:55.120 I love George Plooney, you know, and I looved Randy 1:11:55.120 --> 1:11:57.320 Gerber and Mike Millman's one of my dearest friends in 1:11:57.320 --> 1:12:00.200 the world. So these guys are cool guys, don't get 1:12:00.200 --> 1:12:05.639 me wrong, but they make Their quote was, well, we didn't, 1:12:05.880 --> 1:12:07.600 you know, we wanted to make a tequila that was 1:12:07.640 --> 1:12:08.760 a lot easier to drink. 1:12:08.960 --> 1:12:11.840 Well that's impossible, you know what I mean. 1:12:12.080 --> 1:12:15.479 Real tequila is fucking who it's got that shiver. You 1:12:15.520 --> 1:12:17.040 got to ask why you have the salt and the 1:12:17.120 --> 1:12:19.880 line's fun. It's it's just you know. Oh see, I 1:12:19.880 --> 1:12:24.439 get goosebumps once again talking about it's such a wonderful spirit. 1:12:24.720 --> 1:12:28.240 So I ordered a cosamigo the other day with Michael Anthony. 1:12:28.880 --> 1:12:29.120 Uh. 1:12:29.400 --> 1:12:31.040 We were at this place and they had a bar 1:12:31.120 --> 1:12:32.200 and I went, I said, what do you got? And 1:12:32.240 --> 1:12:34.920 I saw they had patron which is wonderful tequila. And 1:12:34.960 --> 1:12:37.519 I looked in and I and they had Constamigo, of 1:12:37.520 --> 1:12:40.759 course because it's one of the biggest tegabos in the world. Now, Uh, 1:12:40.800 --> 1:12:44.640 and I go, give me a shot at blanco. Uh 1:12:45.760 --> 1:12:48.160 on the rocks. And he said, you don't want don't 1:12:48.160 --> 1:12:50.439 want to market readia. Do you want a cocktail? Say no, no, 1:12:50.520 --> 1:12:52.680 I just wanted on the rocks. He was almost like 1:12:53.040 --> 1:12:57.599 you sir, the bark and they put it on the rocks. 1:12:57.840 --> 1:12:59.720 And I took a sip and I said to Mike, 1:13:00.000 --> 1:13:01.679 and I looked at the part and I said, hey, 1:13:01.720 --> 1:13:03.840 I ordered a shot, not a cocktail. This has got 1:13:03.880 --> 1:13:07.240 more shit in it than a cocktail. It's got vanilla, 1:13:07.320 --> 1:13:13.280 it's got coconut, it's got uh, it's just sweeteners, glycerine. 1:13:13.360 --> 1:13:16.679 So it's like makes your tongue thick. It's like a 1:13:16.720 --> 1:13:20.080 syrupy feel on your tongue, you know, because that makes 1:13:20.120 --> 1:13:23.120 it easier to swallow and makes it smoother. And it 1:13:23.160 --> 1:13:25.519 had all these things, and I'm going, oh my god, 1:13:26.000 --> 1:13:28.599 but I'm sorry everybody. They're not the only ones. Everybody's 1:13:28.640 --> 1:13:31.240 doing that. And that's why tequila is so big now. 1:13:31.720 --> 1:13:36.080 Real tequila drinkers don't like that. But there's the masses 1:13:36.120 --> 1:13:39.320 are drinking tequila now, and the masses don't like real tequila. 1:13:39.400 --> 1:13:42.240 They go, oh that's too hot. Oh my god. No, 1:13:42.680 --> 1:13:46.639 you know, I've seen it of my own two life. 1:13:47.200 --> 1:13:48.639 Tequila burns a little bit. 1:13:48.880 --> 1:13:55.320 It's it's a spirit, and it's it's got very subtle flavors, 1:13:55.439 --> 1:13:57.280 very subtle. You get a little bit of oak when 1:13:57.320 --> 1:13:58.880 you put it in wood, you know, you get a 1:13:58.920 --> 1:14:02.200 little bit vanilla, little coconut, out of the wood. But 1:14:02.400 --> 1:14:04.599 you don't get that out of a frigging blanco unless 1:14:04.640 --> 1:14:07.840 it's the Crystali, which is at the new style where 1:14:07.880 --> 1:14:10.040 they put it in wood for three or four years 1:14:10.080 --> 1:14:13.160 and then they redistill it and filter the color out 1:14:13.240 --> 1:14:17.160 and it's a white patrol and started that trend. It's 1:14:17.160 --> 1:14:20.519 a white tequila that tastes delicious, but you know it's 1:14:20.600 --> 1:14:24.880 it's it's very expensive to do that because you got 1:14:24.920 --> 1:14:26.280 an agent and lose all that product. 1:14:26.320 --> 1:14:28.240 But anyway, I don't want to make that tequila. 1:14:28.280 --> 1:14:33.320 I'm making a blanco and nyejo, a reposanto and a 1:14:33.400 --> 1:14:35.280 mosquito that's santo. 1:14:35.600 --> 1:14:36.240 The real shit. 1:14:36.760 --> 1:14:41.200 Okay, anybody who's in this business knows that the real 1:14:41.400 --> 1:14:46.120 key end is distribution. So you start these new companies, 1:14:46.160 --> 1:14:47.640 how a you're handling distribution. 1:14:48.200 --> 1:14:50.800 Well, a lot of these guys got a lot of 1:14:50.840 --> 1:14:53.000 backing money. A lot of celebrities got big money, and 1:14:53.040 --> 1:14:58.280 they go to some backers and they they pay for it. 1:14:58.320 --> 1:14:59.600 You know, it's like you pay to play and the 1:14:59.640 --> 1:15:01.080 old day, you know, you get a record on the 1:15:01.160 --> 1:15:03.559 radio too. You know, that's kind of what's going on 1:15:03.600 --> 1:15:07.200 with the distribution. But yeah, it's all about distribution. But 1:15:07.400 --> 1:15:10.720 the whole thing is it's the end is one thing, 1:15:10.760 --> 1:15:14.080 getting it in a store. If it don't sell, you're 1:15:14.120 --> 1:15:16.639 out of here. And that's why you're seeing tequila companies 1:15:16.680 --> 1:15:19.760 come and go. Every year there's another one hundred one 1:15:19.880 --> 1:15:23.240 starting and another forty going out of business, and it's 1:15:23.280 --> 1:15:25.920 it's really a tough game. You have to the distributors 1:15:25.960 --> 1:15:28.200 take a big chunk to begin with the big boys 1:15:28.240 --> 1:15:34.559 Southern Wine and Young's and Young's markets with oh, come on, 1:15:34.600 --> 1:15:35.320 who is Youngs with? 1:15:37.160 --> 1:15:37.640 I forget the. 1:15:37.680 --> 1:15:40.920 Name of it, but anyway, there's two major distributors now 1:15:41.360 --> 1:15:47.000 Southern Glazier merged and Youngs merged with oh why can't 1:15:47.000 --> 1:15:49.120 even remember them? They used to have to kill, used 1:15:49.160 --> 1:15:51.200 to have Cabbo Wobble. When I sold Caaba Wobble went 1:15:51.240 --> 1:15:53.599 to Southern. Now I'm with Southern now again. But they 1:15:53.600 --> 1:15:56.479 have a lot of power. But they they're careful because 1:15:56.479 --> 1:15:58.760 see their names. They're the reputation online. So they go 1:15:58.840 --> 1:16:02.040 to Safeway and go, hey, you know, buyas a couple 1:16:02.080 --> 1:16:04.240 thousand cases, put them in your stores. 1:16:04.600 --> 1:16:05.519 Yeah, you get paid. 1:16:05.960 --> 1:16:08.160 They buy in, and then they sit there and go, hey, 1:16:08.320 --> 1:16:10.559 it ain't moving, Get this shit out of my store. 1:16:10.600 --> 1:16:12.760 I need the space. So it's a tough game. You 1:16:12.840 --> 1:16:16.320 don't want to make mistakes like that. And that's where 1:16:17.080 --> 1:16:20.479 my expertise of being in the business before comes from, 1:16:20.560 --> 1:16:22.920 because my first idea was, oh, man, just get it 1:16:22.960 --> 1:16:24.760 everywhere and my fans will go buy it. 1:16:24.920 --> 1:16:25.160 Man. 1:16:25.240 --> 1:16:27.400 Not necessarily they go buy it, but they got to 1:16:27.439 --> 1:16:29.760 run across it, and they're not really you know, it's 1:16:31.200 --> 1:16:33.599 it's a tough game right now, but I still love 1:16:33.640 --> 1:16:36.799 it every time you win. Wow, Like you know, Santo, 1:16:36.880 --> 1:16:40.600 we just got Caesar's Group, the whole group. You know, 1:16:40.640 --> 1:16:43.679 they have more hotels in Vegas than anyone and between 1:16:43.800 --> 1:16:46.799 all their bars and it's like, you know, Guy Fieri's friends, 1:16:47.120 --> 1:16:49.680 because he has a couple of restaurants with Caesars with 1:16:49.760 --> 1:16:52.800 the group, and so he got to the owner and 1:16:52.840 --> 1:16:55.000 the owner put the hammer down and say, yeah, you know, 1:16:55.320 --> 1:16:58.679 but it's it's it's uh. I'll give you one hint 1:16:58.760 --> 1:17:02.000 for new guys. It's about relationships. If you know somebody 1:17:02.200 --> 1:17:04.639 and they're a fan, they'll take care of you. You'll 1:17:04.640 --> 1:17:07.040 get your booze right in their liquor store or right 1:17:07.080 --> 1:17:11.240 in their bar. So it's like the old DJs when 1:17:11.280 --> 1:17:13.640 you used to know the DJ. You're friendly, You go 1:17:13.680 --> 1:17:15.479 in there after your show, you go in and do 1:17:15.560 --> 1:17:19.679 a night at midnight show, you know at KSJO or whatever, 1:17:19.720 --> 1:17:21.439 and they, you know, they. 1:17:21.280 --> 1:17:22.040 Play your record. 1:17:22.080 --> 1:17:23.599 You know. It's like you got a friend, you got 1:17:23.600 --> 1:17:25.800 a DJ friend. Well, now if you've got a bartender friend, 1:17:26.080 --> 1:17:28.960 he'll put your boos in his bar. And the bartenders 1:17:28.960 --> 1:17:31.320 are the new DJs in this business. 1:17:32.920 --> 1:17:36.479 Okay, how do you know Guy Fieri? And then you 1:17:36.520 --> 1:17:40.320 were Bottle Rock was with Jose Andre some chef. It's like, 1:17:40.479 --> 1:17:42.439 how do you know all these people? And are you 1:17:42.520 --> 1:17:45.840 one of these people who literally knows everybody or you 1:17:45.960 --> 1:17:47.680 just have a select group you hang out with. 1:17:47.920 --> 1:17:50.920 Well, now you know what I'm like back in high school, Bob, 1:17:50.960 --> 1:17:53.880 We're coming full Silindier. I love this. I love this interview. 1:17:53.960 --> 1:17:56.200 You're killing me. You see, it's like when I was 1:17:56.240 --> 1:17:59.080 in high school. I know everybody, but I have my 1:17:59.120 --> 1:18:02.479 little group. Still, I'm still that same guy. You know, 1:18:02.560 --> 1:18:06.720 Emma La Gazi's my friend, Jose Andres my friend. Guy 1:18:06.760 --> 1:18:09.920 Fieri's my friend. You know, I've got a few really 1:18:09.920 --> 1:18:12.800 good close chef friends and they are close friends and 1:18:12.840 --> 1:18:14.960 we cook together and we. 1:18:16.400 --> 1:18:17.320 Michael Mina. 1:18:18.720 --> 1:18:21.800 I patronize their restaurants when I'm in their city where 1:18:21.840 --> 1:18:25.720 they on tour, and I call them to get special favors. Hey, 1:18:25.720 --> 1:18:29.280 I can't get in, you know, like Jose Andres, Hey 1:18:29.360 --> 1:18:31.960 I can't. You can't get into his restaurants. It's like Jose, 1:18:32.280 --> 1:18:34.000 I got it. I need a table for six. It's 1:18:34.040 --> 1:18:37.280 you know, it's six o'clock. Well done. So we're those 1:18:37.360 --> 1:18:40.680 kind of friends. I love chefs. I love cooking. It's 1:18:40.720 --> 1:18:44.120 my second favorite thing, you know, besides music. I'm if 1:18:44.160 --> 1:18:46.920 you want to ask me what I do. I come 1:18:46.960 --> 1:18:49.880 home from the studio of twelve hours and I go 1:18:49.960 --> 1:18:51.920 straight to the kitchen and I whip something up, and 1:18:52.000 --> 1:18:55.840 I can cook my ass off. You know, I've had them, 1:18:56.040 --> 1:18:58.800 Lagassi tell me. You know, Sammy, I've been good cook 1:18:58.880 --> 1:19:02.000 you son. I'm a bitch, you know. So you know 1:19:02.040 --> 1:19:04.120 I can hang with those guys. I can't. I'm not 1:19:04.200 --> 1:19:06.559 as versatile. Maybe you know, they have more knowledge, but 1:19:07.240 --> 1:19:10.479 I really have a good palette. So Guy Fiertti came 1:19:11.000 --> 1:19:13.760 when Cabbo Wobbo when we were having a promotion back 1:19:13.800 --> 1:19:15.519 way before I sold it, back when we had the 1:19:16.120 --> 1:19:18.679 very you know, at about forty thousand seconds third year, 1:19:19.920 --> 1:19:22.160 I was doing a local tour in the Sandmans in 1:19:22.200 --> 1:19:25.360 the Bay Area and we had a contest for whoever 1:19:25.439 --> 1:19:27.439 sold the most tequila in their bar got to come 1:19:27.479 --> 1:19:29.960 to the show. I sent a limo for him. They 1:19:30.560 --> 1:19:33.400 meet me backstage. I got a signed guitar. They got 1:19:33.520 --> 1:19:35.200 on the side of the stage. I got to, you know, 1:19:35.280 --> 1:19:38.800 witness the whole nine yards right, a VIP thing. So 1:19:39.000 --> 1:19:41.120 Guy Fiertti being a huge fan at that time, I 1:19:41.200 --> 1:19:41.640 didn't know it. 1:19:41.680 --> 1:19:42.240 I didn't know him. 1:19:42.280 --> 1:19:45.759 He had a little restaurant called Johnny Garlics, and he said, 1:19:47.000 --> 1:19:48.840 I'm going to put it in my will. Now, this 1:19:48.920 --> 1:19:51.360 is a high end tequila. They got nine dollars bottles 1:19:51.360 --> 1:19:54.920 of booze in your well, nine dollars a leader and 1:19:54.960 --> 1:19:58.040 this was a seven fifty for thirty forty two dollars. 1:19:58.360 --> 1:20:00.200 He put it in as well. Of course, he won 1:20:00.240 --> 1:20:02.280 the damn contests and didn't make any money on his 1:20:02.520 --> 1:20:05.800 on his bar for a few months. He walks in, 1:20:07.040 --> 1:20:09.880 looks just like me. He's got shorts, flip flops. You know, 1:20:09.960 --> 1:20:13.160 his hair, my head. That time we were wearing gators glasses. 1:20:13.360 --> 1:20:15.720 He had my same glasses on my little goatee. 1:20:16.040 --> 1:20:16.280 You know. 1:20:16.520 --> 1:20:18.960 My beach looked that I had going back then, and uh, 1:20:19.200 --> 1:20:21.200 I'm going all of this fucking guy. He's out of sight, 1:20:21.240 --> 1:20:21.400 you know. 1:20:21.400 --> 1:20:22.160 Boom boom boom. 1:20:22.200 --> 1:20:25.400 We have fun. I love his personality. He's exactly like 1:20:25.439 --> 1:20:27.960 he is now. He didn't invent himself. He didn't grow 1:20:28.000 --> 1:20:29.920 into this gig. He was born like this. 1:20:30.080 --> 1:20:30.320 You know. 1:20:30.600 --> 1:20:32.240 He's one of those guys. He wakes up at eight 1:20:32.240 --> 1:20:34.120 o'clock in the morning, he already has his bling on. 1:20:34.360 --> 1:20:36.920 I think he sleeps with the ship, his hair spiked up, 1:20:36.960 --> 1:20:39.880 he's got his sunglasses. He's a badass. He's really really 1:20:39.880 --> 1:20:43.320 the real do. I love that guy? So he after 1:20:43.360 --> 1:20:47.000 the show, I give him the signed guitar before the 1:20:47.040 --> 1:20:48.479 show where I met first, and I say, you know, 1:20:48.680 --> 1:20:50.840 after the show, coming back, I have some food. He 1:20:50.920 --> 1:20:53.600 went and had his sushi chef because Johnny Garlak has 1:20:53.640 --> 1:20:57.439 had a sushi menu. He put made a bunch of sushi. 1:20:57.600 --> 1:21:00.280 He put it on the guitar and I came walking 1:21:00.280 --> 1:21:02.320 out stage into the dress room and he had guitars, 1:21:02.400 --> 1:21:06.000 sushian and guitar served it to me. I said, this 1:21:06.080 --> 1:21:08.320 is my fucking pal right here right. So we we 1:21:08.479 --> 1:21:10.720 became friends. He came to every show I've ever done 1:21:10.720 --> 1:21:13.320 in the Bay Area and around the country. 1:21:13.360 --> 1:21:13.880 He was doing that. 1:21:13.920 --> 1:21:19.040 So I helped him get in with Emma Lagazi and 1:21:19.080 --> 1:21:21.800 my Food Network friends. I helped him get you know, 1:21:22.960 --> 1:21:25.720 uh not that didn't help him win. I helped him 1:21:25.720 --> 1:21:27.519 get it audition. I turned him on to some people. 1:21:27.880 --> 1:21:30.160 He got involved and became the next Food Network start. 1:21:30.200 --> 1:21:33.439 Now he's the biggest celebrity chef on the planet. And 1:21:33.800 --> 1:21:37.200 and when I sold Kabba Wobble, he read it. He 1:21:37.280 --> 1:21:40.920 calls me up and says, dude, did I read what 1:21:41.000 --> 1:21:43.439 I just read? I said, I don't know what you 1:21:43.560 --> 1:21:46.880 just read. He said, you sold Wobble for like a 1:21:47.000 --> 1:21:48.920 hundred million dollars. Said, that's what the deal was. And 1:21:49.240 --> 1:21:51.000 like I said, I only took the first twenty. I 1:21:51.080 --> 1:21:52.080 left twenty on the table. 1:21:52.120 --> 1:21:52.599 For a while. 1:21:53.080 --> 1:21:54.960 I thought the brand was going to get much bigger 1:21:54.960 --> 1:21:56.880 and my twenty was going to be, you know, worth 1:21:56.880 --> 1:21:58.959 even more than that. I thought I was a smart businessman, 1:22:00.000 --> 1:22:03.440 already smarter than me. Trust me, those guys are the greatest. 1:22:03.200 --> 1:22:06.680 I love that brand in that company for doing what 1:22:06.720 --> 1:22:10.080 they did for me. But anyway, so I said, oh yeah, 1:22:10.080 --> 1:22:13.000 he goes you know, dude, you ever want to do 1:22:13.040 --> 1:22:15.000 this again? I said, I can't do nothing for five years. 1:22:15.000 --> 1:22:16.599 He said, if you ever want to do this again, 1:22:16.920 --> 1:22:19.280 I'm your partner. I said, okay. And we just been 1:22:19.360 --> 1:22:21.200 friends and friends and friends and friends and hang out 1:22:21.200 --> 1:22:25.000 in cobble. It comes to my birthday bash then, like 1:22:25.040 --> 1:22:27.679 I said, I started Santo and wasn't thinking about him, 1:22:28.240 --> 1:22:34.400 and he busted my ass and he's Boom, he's partner instantly, 1:22:34.640 --> 1:22:36.639 I mean we have We just shift hands. We didn't 1:22:36.640 --> 1:22:38.599 even shake can We're on the phone. I said, yeah, 1:22:38.720 --> 1:22:40.720 you're my partner. Okay, here's how much I got in. 1:22:40.760 --> 1:22:42.200 Here's how much going to cost for you to buy 1:22:42.200 --> 1:22:43.840 in to you know what I got in. You know, 1:22:43.840 --> 1:22:46.799 I'm not selling you nothing. I'm just exchanging my shares 1:22:46.840 --> 1:22:49.840 for what I have. And boom, we just did it 1:22:49.840 --> 1:22:52.200 that way. And he's the best partner you could ever have. 1:22:52.600 --> 1:22:56.679 I don't think anyone could outwork Guy Fieri. He's most 1:22:57.040 --> 1:23:00.040 He gets up at four in the morning, does morning 1:23:00.120 --> 1:23:03.519 shows in fucking New York from California. Then you know, 1:23:03.640 --> 1:23:07.439 and then out the door he's filming two or three 1:23:07.520 --> 1:23:10.439 TV shows he's got going on. He's got seventy five 1:23:10.520 --> 1:23:16.360 eighty restaurants. You know it's the guy's rocking man. 1:23:17.720 --> 1:23:19.560 Yeah. 1:23:19.600 --> 1:23:22.760 Okay, so you had a number of big victories, the 1:23:22.840 --> 1:23:28.320 victory with tequila, et cetera. Musicians are legendary for blowing 1:23:28.400 --> 1:23:33.800 the money. Where is the money? Is it in real estate? 1:23:33.960 --> 1:23:36.800 Is in stocks? His bonds? You pay attention? Do you 1:23:36.880 --> 1:23:37.719 not pay attention? 1:23:40.000 --> 1:23:42.600 I kind of when I got that big money, I 1:23:42.640 --> 1:23:46.080 start paying attention because I didn't want to lose everything 1:23:46.080 --> 1:23:49.400 that I know. This is my my nest egg. So 1:23:49.479 --> 1:23:55.760 I investigated some things, and I tell my brokers and 1:23:55.800 --> 1:23:59.840 my management and my accountants, I do not care about 1:24:00.040 --> 1:24:03.120 making money with my money. Don't go out there and 1:24:03.160 --> 1:24:05.400 say I'm gonna make you, you know, twenty percent of 1:24:05.479 --> 1:24:10.120 your money. I'm not interested. I want the safest saying possible. 1:24:10.479 --> 1:24:13.280 I invest in the United States of America, and I 1:24:13.320 --> 1:24:19.080 invest in cities and states because ones that I think, 1:24:19.360 --> 1:24:22.080 you know, that look like they're not going to go bankrupt, 1:24:22.200 --> 1:24:26.880 you know. So it's kind of like keeping your money 1:24:27.520 --> 1:24:30.320 in places like that that if the United States goes under, 1:24:30.320 --> 1:24:32.160 well then I'm gonna lose my money. But if I 1:24:32.240 --> 1:24:34.000 had it in other place, I'm gonna lose it. Way 1:24:34.040 --> 1:24:37.960 before that, you know. So I'm just I'm so conservative 1:24:38.000 --> 1:24:41.840 you'd be surprised. It's it's like I don't like making 1:24:41.840 --> 1:24:44.559 money with money. To me, when I say, nobody gets fucked. 1:24:45.840 --> 1:24:48.160 To me, if you're making too much money with your money, 1:24:48.240 --> 1:24:49.200 somebody's getting fucked. 1:24:49.680 --> 1:24:49.840 You know. 1:24:49.880 --> 1:24:52.679 It just doesn't work that way all of a sudden magic, 1:24:53.000 --> 1:24:55.200 you know, just somebody's gonna hand their money over to you. 1:24:55.720 --> 1:24:58.719 Somebody must lose for you to win. So I don't 1:24:58.760 --> 1:25:00.599 like that game, and I don't know enough about it. 1:25:00.880 --> 1:25:03.000 So I invest in myself. I have a ton of 1:25:03.000 --> 1:25:06.760 real estate, and I believe in things. I have, you know, 1:25:06.840 --> 1:25:11.960 a car collection from heaven and I use it. I 1:25:12.040 --> 1:25:14.479 drive my cars, and I stay in my homes, and 1:25:14.520 --> 1:25:16.920 I bought my family homes, you know, like and. 1:25:19.960 --> 1:25:20.679 You know, my kids. 1:25:20.680 --> 1:25:24.760 I have a wonderful, wonderful trust set up for my kids, 1:25:24.800 --> 1:25:28.759 which I really believe in. I believe in my parents 1:25:28.760 --> 1:25:30.880 are gone. But you know, my mom. I put a 1:25:30.880 --> 1:25:32.640 lot of money into my mom. She always had a 1:25:32.840 --> 1:25:36.280 nice new car and she had a beautiful home. And 1:25:36.320 --> 1:25:39.719 it's we're all in my name, And it sounds cheesy, 1:25:39.840 --> 1:25:42.840 but it's like, no, it's not. It's like you can 1:25:43.200 --> 1:25:47.599 make your mother, your family, your parents and brothers and 1:25:47.640 --> 1:25:50.439 sisters really happy. If you're really rich enough, you can 1:25:50.479 --> 1:25:53.320 really do wonderful things for them. And then you know 1:25:53.360 --> 1:25:55.479 your mother is going to pass and your parents are 1:25:55.479 --> 1:25:57.840 going to pass before you, and you just inherit it 1:25:57.920 --> 1:26:00.519 back and then you know, you give it to someone else, 1:26:00.560 --> 1:26:03.400 so you you you turn it. That's that's the way 1:26:03.439 --> 1:26:06.400 I do my money. I don't like to just stash 1:26:06.439 --> 1:26:09.200 it away. Someplaces say, look how much money I'm making 1:26:09.240 --> 1:26:11.559 on my money. I'm still earning enough money where I 1:26:11.560 --> 1:26:15.000 don't have to live off my money. And so it's 1:26:15.160 --> 1:26:17.320 it's just all my kids name. And you got to 1:26:17.360 --> 1:26:19.600 do it properly so they don't get robbed from the 1:26:19.640 --> 1:26:22.200 government when you die, you know, they so that they 1:26:22.240 --> 1:26:27.640 have their The inheritance taxes are fifty percent, you know, 1:26:27.720 --> 1:26:29.519 and then there's then there's. 1:26:31.000 --> 1:26:32.280 Income tax on top of that. 1:26:32.320 --> 1:26:34.400 You know, you give your kid a million dollars and 1:26:34.439 --> 1:26:36.439 he ends up with a couple hundred thousand dollars. It's 1:26:36.439 --> 1:26:38.640 just not cool, you know. So you've got to have 1:26:38.760 --> 1:26:42.559 really good estate planning. And I spent a lot of 1:26:42.640 --> 1:26:46.640 time and effort and investigation on that because you know, 1:26:46.680 --> 1:26:50.719 when I turned seventy, you know, five and a half 1:26:50.800 --> 1:26:55.400 years ago, I really started thinking about mortality, and all said, 1:26:55.479 --> 1:26:57.160 you're going, I never thought. 1:26:56.960 --> 1:26:57.360 Of that before. 1:26:57.400 --> 1:27:00.640 I'm so busy, I'm so I'm still driven, you know, 1:27:00.680 --> 1:27:05.920 I'm still progressing and working on things. And I go, what, well, 1:27:05.920 --> 1:27:08.640 it only only got Maybe I plan on living to 1:27:08.640 --> 1:27:09.960 be one hundred at least, and then I'll tell you 1:27:10.000 --> 1:27:11.760 if I'm on live any longer when i'm a hundred, 1:27:11.760 --> 1:27:14.400 because if I'm healthy, I said, okay, I'm gonna live longer. 1:27:14.560 --> 1:27:16.840 But so I got twenty five years to live. And 1:27:16.880 --> 1:27:19.200 I think how fast the last twenty five years went. 1:27:19.240 --> 1:27:21.600 I just go, holy shit, I got I got a 1:27:21.600 --> 1:27:23.240 lot to do. I better take care of things. I 1:27:23.280 --> 1:27:25.000 got to make sure my kids are cool, you know, 1:27:25.040 --> 1:27:27.240 and I got to make sure that everything's set, you know, 1:27:27.280 --> 1:27:28.080 and I don't leave. 1:27:27.960 --> 1:27:29.400 A mess when I die. 1:27:29.640 --> 1:27:31.719 And I've never thought of that until I turned seventy, 1:27:31.920 --> 1:27:34.880 and I wrote that song father Time about it. It's 1:27:34.960 --> 1:27:38.000 like all of a sudden, Wow, you just go, wow, 1:27:39.040 --> 1:27:43.160 I'm not afraid to die and whatsoever. And it's but 1:27:43.240 --> 1:27:47.800 it's just interesting to start thinking, Wow, m I got 1:27:47.840 --> 1:27:51.000 to make sure my people are taking care of you know, 1:27:51.040 --> 1:27:51.880 and everything's cool. 1:27:52.080 --> 1:27:54.439 And it was a strange thing. And I spent a 1:27:54.439 --> 1:27:54.840 whole year. 1:27:54.840 --> 1:27:57.439 I took two years off and then COVID hit and 1:27:58.360 --> 1:28:00.080 I got to take more time off and work and 1:28:00.120 --> 1:28:02.640 all that kind of stuff. That's if anyone asked me, 1:28:02.720 --> 1:28:05.559 you know, what's the positive that came out of COVID, 1:28:05.640 --> 1:28:07.000 it was one was. 1:28:08.600 --> 1:28:09.439 I got time. 1:28:10.040 --> 1:28:12.439 I had down time, so I took care of a 1:28:12.479 --> 1:28:17.479 lot of things. And I learned that we are all 1:28:17.720 --> 1:28:20.800 in the same fucking boat man. The COVID made the 1:28:20.840 --> 1:28:25.760 biggest realization on the planet. Rich, poor, You're all fucked now, 1:28:26.080 --> 1:28:29.320 you know what it's like. So it kind of brought 1:28:29.880 --> 1:28:32.520 a nice reality to me and a more of appreciation 1:28:32.800 --> 1:28:36.160 of health and life and freedom and this country. You 1:28:36.200 --> 1:28:39.280 know about the freedom in this country, it keeps getting 1:28:39.320 --> 1:28:41.439 taken away. It keeps getting taken away by things like 1:28:41.520 --> 1:28:45.920 COVID and by the nine to eleven situation. It's like, 1:28:47.760 --> 1:28:51.080 freedom's a wonderful thing. It's wonderful. 1:28:52.000 --> 1:28:56.120 Okay, just switching gears. Your kids, you grew up poor, 1:28:57.000 --> 1:28:59.960 they did not grow up poor, So what are they up? 1:29:00.280 --> 1:29:02.120 And my oldest one, did. 1:29:03.680 --> 1:29:08.200 You know, how do you incentivize them. 1:29:08.720 --> 1:29:12.200 I know, my wife and I if we fight about anything, 1:29:12.320 --> 1:29:14.880 it's every time I'm trying to do something for the kids, 1:29:14.920 --> 1:29:22.519 it's like you're gonna ruin them. Yeah, I will ruin them. Happily. 1:29:22.760 --> 1:29:24.760 I could careless if they ever had to work a 1:29:24.840 --> 1:29:27.160 day in their life. I would be happy for them 1:29:27.439 --> 1:29:30.519 if they were happy. Now they're not happy. That's different. 1:29:30.840 --> 1:29:35.719 But my oldest son, who's fifty two years old, he Aaron. 1:29:36.400 --> 1:29:38.360 He saw the pors we were on well for he 1:29:38.400 --> 1:29:40.160 was born in a county hospital and I was on 1:29:40.200 --> 1:29:44.800 food stamps, you know, so he saw the whole process. 1:29:44.560 --> 1:29:46.840 He went right with it. You know, he's he. 1:29:47.479 --> 1:29:52.160 And he's the one that's really more of a spender 1:29:52.360 --> 1:29:57.120 and does it put value on it than anyone. He 1:29:57.200 --> 1:29:59.880 wants things like me. He wants my cars, he wants 1:30:00.120 --> 1:30:03.759 you know, he wants all that. And he's talented like crazy, 1:30:03.800 --> 1:30:06.280 and he does a great job with his hobbies. He's 1:30:06.360 --> 1:30:09.519 turned hobbies into making a living. But as soon as 1:30:09.560 --> 1:30:12.080 he got his trust money, the way I haven't set up, 1:30:12.160 --> 1:30:14.720 my kids get their trust money at certain stages, they 1:30:14.720 --> 1:30:17.200 get a certain amount of twenty five and then they 1:30:17.200 --> 1:30:18.880 get the big chunk at forty and then they get 1:30:18.920 --> 1:30:23.960 dressed when I die. So every time he gets his chunk, 1:30:24.040 --> 1:30:27.120 he just blows done both through it. But I have 1:30:27.160 --> 1:30:29.760 to stop him, Aaron. I know, you got a new car. 1:30:29.960 --> 1:30:33.240 You got five cars already. You don't need another fucking motorcycle. 1:30:33.280 --> 1:30:34.680 You know, he's the only one that I got to 1:30:34.680 --> 1:30:38.920 slap around. Everyone else seems to be pretty cool. My 1:30:40.160 --> 1:30:44.240 youngest boy, Andrew is singing and playing music and doing 1:30:44.280 --> 1:30:47.519 a great job. He's awesome. He's got everything going for him. 1:30:47.560 --> 1:30:50.320 He's a great songwriter. I just blew my mind how 1:30:50.320 --> 1:30:52.920 he just exploded like that when he turned about twenty five. 1:30:53.200 --> 1:30:55.599 He just decided before that he was a martial artist 1:30:55.880 --> 1:30:58.360 and I wouldn't let him fight, so he became a trainer. 1:30:58.640 --> 1:31:00.360 He had two or three fights and broke my heart. 1:31:00.400 --> 1:31:03.280 You know, he broke his knuckles, you know, get banged up. 1:31:03.280 --> 1:31:05.720 The UFC fighting type shit. You know, that's not the 1:31:05.760 --> 1:31:08.840 mixed martial arts. So he became a trainer, and I 1:31:08.840 --> 1:31:10.200 thought that's what he was going to do, you know, 1:31:10.280 --> 1:31:13.360 get himself a big, nice gym. But now he started 1:31:13.400 --> 1:31:15.840 writing songs and singing music. They're playing music and he's 1:31:15.960 --> 1:31:21.080 really really good. And my oldest daughter, kam Up. She 1:31:21.640 --> 1:31:25.040 just got her first trust. She's twenty five, twenty seven now, 1:31:25.120 --> 1:31:27.120 she just got her first chunk, and she bought a 1:31:27.200 --> 1:31:29.400 nice little house in Maui where she wanted to live. 1:31:29.640 --> 1:31:31.040 She has skincare products. 1:31:31.600 --> 1:31:34.599 She's got two degrees in business and in fashion, and 1:31:35.240 --> 1:31:40.040 she's a meditation and yoga teacher and a complete holistic 1:31:40.800 --> 1:31:42.040 little queen. 1:31:42.439 --> 1:31:44.240 Little she just wonderful. 1:31:44.760 --> 1:31:47.559 And my youngest daughter, who hasn't got anything yet, she 1:31:47.680 --> 1:31:51.080 just turned twenty one. She's a barrel racer and she 1:31:52.280 --> 1:31:56.400 likes my booze business, which is really finally, finally, you know, 1:31:57.000 --> 1:32:00.120 someone like Andrew falling in my footsteps of music. I 1:32:00.160 --> 1:32:04.799 pray for him because it's not easy. But my daughter, 1:32:04.920 --> 1:32:07.200 I just I just pray that she will do it. 1:32:07.240 --> 1:32:10.400 She's she goes out on trips with my head of 1:32:10.439 --> 1:32:14.120 sales for the Beach Bark Cocktail Company, and she goes 1:32:14.120 --> 1:32:17.120 into accounts and she just landed the mix She took 1:32:17.439 --> 1:32:20.760 mixologist courses. She landed the mixology course at the a 1:32:20.840 --> 1:32:23.880 Montage Hotel in Healsburg, which is a really super high 1:32:23.920 --> 1:32:26.759 end place in the wine country. And so she's really 1:32:27.200 --> 1:32:29.679 going down that road. She's got she got a palette 1:32:29.680 --> 1:32:33.120 on her. You know, I use her with my products. 1:32:33.160 --> 1:32:34.320 I said, what do you think of this? You know, 1:32:34.320 --> 1:32:37.320 what do you think of this? She's she's awesome, and 1:32:37.360 --> 1:32:41.679 she's Samantha Hagar perfect, She's Sammy, but she drives a truck, 1:32:41.800 --> 1:32:44.519 she's got a horse. She's a fucking barrel racer. She's 1:32:44.520 --> 1:32:48.120 as redneck as you get. You know, she's all about that. 1:32:48.400 --> 1:32:51.479 Just it's they're all different. I mean, I'm talking about 1:32:51.800 --> 1:32:53.080 not even from the same planet. 1:32:55.000 --> 1:32:58.759 Okay, you've been married a couple of times. You got 1:32:58.840 --> 1:33:03.400 married before or you had your big success now, certainly 1:33:03.400 --> 1:33:06.680 at the time before the internet and cell phones, a 1:33:06.720 --> 1:33:09.639 lot of guys wanted to get successful so they could 1:33:09.680 --> 1:33:15.120 have some of the perks the lot rock and roll, lifestyle, romance, sex, etc. 1:33:16.680 --> 1:33:20.759 What have you learned about, you know, relationships, et cetera, 1:33:20.880 --> 1:33:24.280 being on the road so much being famous. 1:33:24.880 --> 1:33:27.639 Well, Bob, you know I've saw both sides of that movie. 1:33:27.680 --> 1:33:30.280 Let me tell you, I've been the worst husband on 1:33:30.320 --> 1:33:32.479 the planet and I've been the best husband on the planet, 1:33:32.520 --> 1:33:34.599 which I am now and have been for a long time. 1:33:34.600 --> 1:33:39.960 For my second marriage, I learned you never lie to anyone, 1:33:40.680 --> 1:33:45.400 to your children, and especially your spouse, your partner. You 1:33:45.439 --> 1:33:49.639 don't lie to that person. And so once I've became 1:33:49.680 --> 1:33:52.240 a rock star, we got married. We're high school sweethearts, 1:33:52.960 --> 1:33:59.400 and I was completely not it. Never had a relationship, 1:33:59.439 --> 1:34:04.439 but neversed another girl for seven years. And then I 1:34:04.720 --> 1:34:07.479 start getting a montross around on the road. I start 1:34:07.560 --> 1:34:10.479 becoming a rock star, and I started being a really 1:34:10.960 --> 1:34:13.840 very unfaithful person that I'm ashamed of. 1:34:14.439 --> 1:34:16.400 But I was having the time of my life. I mean, 1:34:16.680 --> 1:34:18.960 I'll admit that, you know I'm not. I'm not. 1:34:20.200 --> 1:34:24.400 But I became into a situation where I was lying 1:34:24.439 --> 1:34:27.360 all the time to her and I had to, and 1:34:28.280 --> 1:34:33.479 it was It's what ended my marriage. If I wouldn't 1:34:33.520 --> 1:34:38.439 have fallen in love with someone carry my wife now 1:34:38.600 --> 1:34:43.000 of twenty seven, I don't know, gotta be careful getting 1:34:43.040 --> 1:34:46.759 close to thirty with her. I had twenty four with Betsy, 1:34:46.840 --> 1:34:50.400 my previous marriage. And but if I would have never, 1:34:50.600 --> 1:34:52.880 if I could have got out of that lie, I 1:34:53.000 --> 1:34:55.439 probably would still be married to the same person. But 1:34:55.479 --> 1:34:56.960 I went and fell in love in the middle of 1:34:56.960 --> 1:34:59.280 the lie. So I once I got out of that 1:35:00.360 --> 1:35:05.160 relationship and the divorce and all that, I just made 1:35:05.200 --> 1:35:09.240 a pat I will never lie again, because that then 1:35:09.280 --> 1:35:12.280 you're you're fucked. You got to living a lie? Is 1:35:12.439 --> 1:35:15.360 it ruins anybody's life. Some people just go through life 1:35:15.479 --> 1:35:18.000 just lying, lie and lie and lying lying. And so 1:35:18.600 --> 1:35:21.960 that's what I learned about a relationship. Don't lie to 1:35:22.040 --> 1:35:24.200 your partner and if you can help, but don't cheat 1:35:24.240 --> 1:35:26.800 on them. And if you do, you should probably come 1:35:26.840 --> 1:35:29.160 clean with it sometime and hopefully it doesn't. You know, 1:35:29.240 --> 1:35:33.639 they're understanding and you can work it out. But because boy, uh, 1:35:34.160 --> 1:35:39.280 it's it's a big deal having a I feel terrible 1:35:39.280 --> 1:35:43.679 about my former relationship, even though I had the best 1:35:43.720 --> 1:35:47.320 time of my life from you know, being successful rockstar. 1:35:47.400 --> 1:35:49.439 I got to tell you, there is no better time. 1:35:49.479 --> 1:35:52.040 You can have fast cars, all the money in the world, 1:35:52.240 --> 1:35:56.559 jet airplanes, you know, sex, drugs and rock and roll. 1:35:56.720 --> 1:35:58.320 I never was a big drug guy, but you know 1:35:58.400 --> 1:36:01.639 I did enough to have fun and I and I sexually. 1:36:01.680 --> 1:36:03.840 I had more fund than anybody in the planets. That 1:36:03.920 --> 1:36:09.160 probably Rod story he was He might have been the 1:36:09.160 --> 1:36:11.880 most glamorous rock star, you know, him and Elvis. I 1:36:12.200 --> 1:36:14.400 can't imagine how much fun they must have had. But 1:36:14.560 --> 1:36:17.040 you know, I'm a very sexual person. I still am 1:36:17.120 --> 1:36:20.160 at my age and very very sexual and I think 1:36:20.160 --> 1:36:22.560 it's one of the most important things in the relationship 1:36:22.840 --> 1:36:26.280 to me. When it's over in the bedroom, that's when 1:36:26.320 --> 1:36:30.320 you start, you know, fooling around, looking around, looking at 1:36:30.320 --> 1:36:35.519 other women thinking, you know, it's it's really important a 1:36:35.560 --> 1:36:38.040 good physical relationship in a marriage. 1:36:38.080 --> 1:36:39.000 So that's what I've learned. 1:36:39.760 --> 1:36:42.680 Just don't lie to your partner and be as good 1:36:42.680 --> 1:36:46.800 as you can and keep the sexual drive going in 1:36:46.840 --> 1:36:47.240 the house. 1:36:47.320 --> 1:36:49.920 And usually you don't be looking around so much. 1:36:49.800 --> 1:36:49.960 You know. 1:36:57.200 --> 1:37:00.320 Okay, so you have so much going on with busy, this, 1:37:00.439 --> 1:37:03.080 et cetera. Where does music fit into all this? 1:37:04.680 --> 1:37:06.080 You know, it's all built around music. 1:37:06.080 --> 1:37:09.240 Bob Shep Gordon, that's the my genius buddy, He's the 1:37:09.240 --> 1:37:11.639 big I always say, checked the big brain out on Shep. 1:37:12.200 --> 1:37:14.840 He said to me one time he came and saw 1:37:15.000 --> 1:37:18.200 me when I first built the Cabo Wabbo and then 1:37:18.320 --> 1:37:22.479 Van Halen, when I start wearing shorts and T shirts 1:37:22.520 --> 1:37:25.759 on stage, you know, and I just didn't get dressed 1:37:25.840 --> 1:37:28.280 up anymore, just walk out on stage the way I 1:37:28.400 --> 1:37:30.160 was because I learned how to do that in Cabo. 1:37:30.360 --> 1:37:32.360 I come off the beach in Avadian suit flip flops, 1:37:32.360 --> 1:37:34.800 no shirt back in the day, and you know, I 1:37:34.920 --> 1:37:37.080 just jump up on stage and start jam with the band, 1:37:37.160 --> 1:37:39.360 you know, and it felt so good. You know, it's 1:37:39.400 --> 1:37:42.080 like wow. You know, they didn't pay I don't have 1:37:42.120 --> 1:37:45.240 to get fucking dressed up, you know. But I mean 1:37:45.400 --> 1:37:47.559 I get dressed up a little bit now again, because 1:37:47.600 --> 1:37:50.080 I feel like you kind of owe at least some 1:37:50.160 --> 1:37:52.360 kind of glamour to the business. I like to keep 1:37:52.680 --> 1:37:54.720 a little bit of that glamour going. I think it's 1:37:54.760 --> 1:37:59.439 important showbiz. But when I first start doing that ship 1:37:59.680 --> 1:38:01.360 and then I got thrown out of Van Halen, and 1:38:01.400 --> 1:38:03.880 I said, I'm never gonna get dressed up again. I'm 1:38:03.880 --> 1:38:06.519 never going to play with people that I don't get 1:38:06.560 --> 1:38:08.479 along with. You know that people are gonna fuck me. 1:38:08.560 --> 1:38:10.800 You know, I'm not gonna suck it away. And Sheep said, yeah, 1:38:10.840 --> 1:38:12.519 you remind me of Jimmy Buffett. You know he came 1:38:12.520 --> 1:38:14.320 down to Cowboys going. You remind me of Buffett. And 1:38:14.320 --> 1:38:18.240 I said, Jimmy Buffett, you know that one hit wonder. 1:38:17.960 --> 1:38:19.679 You know. I mean, I had no idea that Jimmy 1:38:19.720 --> 1:38:20.479 had this thing going. 1:38:20.600 --> 1:38:26.320 And and my wife Cary says, oh man, you you've 1:38:26.360 --> 1:38:28.720 never seen Jimmy Buffett, And I said no. She goes, well, god, 1:38:28.720 --> 1:38:30.960 you got to go see Jimmy Buffa. She was from Virginia, 1:38:31.040 --> 1:38:32.840 you know, beach and shit. She had seen him a 1:38:32.920 --> 1:38:35.160 hundred times. She took me to see him. And I 1:38:35.160 --> 1:38:39.160 walk into this nineteen thousand seed amplifier packed, sold out, 1:38:39.640 --> 1:38:43.439 fucking parrot heads and balloons and Frisbees, and it was 1:38:43.520 --> 1:38:45.479 like a day on the beach man. And he comes out. 1:38:45.560 --> 1:38:48.120 Nobody liked the grateful dead. Nobody's paying attention to Jimmy. 1:38:48.240 --> 1:38:50.120 They got their own party going. He just playing the 1:38:50.120 --> 1:38:52.679 background music. I'm going, this is fucking living right here, 1:38:52.880 --> 1:38:55.479 and I'm going, I'm down with this shit. 1:38:55.640 --> 1:38:55.840 You know. 1:38:56.479 --> 1:38:59.960 So I kind of really rolled heavily into that line 1:39:00.000 --> 1:39:02.800 lifestyle thing, and is what shef Gordon said. 1:39:02.800 --> 1:39:03.880 It was kind of managing me. 1:39:04.280 --> 1:39:06.559 He was co managing me and kind of executive managing 1:39:06.600 --> 1:39:08.320 me at that time and helping me when I was 1:39:08.400 --> 1:39:10.479 with the tequila. And he goes, he goes, man, you 1:39:10.600 --> 1:39:12.840 rolled it all into one. He's going, you know, since 1:39:12.880 --> 1:39:14.840 you don't have to put on different hats, you're not 1:39:14.920 --> 1:39:18.280 a businessman, you know, make your business your lifestyle, Make 1:39:18.320 --> 1:39:21.439 your lifestyle your business, and everything's related. So people drink 1:39:21.479 --> 1:39:23.200 your tequila and they come and see your music, and 1:39:23.400 --> 1:39:25.120 they have a better experience. 1:39:25.160 --> 1:39:27.200 And that's what I figured with the Cobble Wobble. 1:39:27.240 --> 1:39:30.719 I learned that you have a better experience if you're 1:39:30.800 --> 1:39:32.719 eating the same food I'm eating. 1:39:32.840 --> 1:39:34.519 These are my menu there, you know, I don't. I don't. 1:39:35.120 --> 1:39:37.080 I'm hands on with my restaurants. 1:39:37.240 --> 1:39:39.519 My food's got to be a certain you know, level, 1:39:39.840 --> 1:39:42.799 and a certain stop, and the type of drinks. 1:39:43.000 --> 1:39:44.720 And then you're up there playing the media. You're all 1:39:44.800 --> 1:39:45.559 drinking the same thing. 1:39:45.760 --> 1:39:47.719 It's like the old days, you know, in the Grateful 1:39:47.760 --> 1:39:50.679 Dead and the old Fillmore, where everybody took the same acid, 1:39:51.000 --> 1:39:54.920 smoking the same weed, and is this thing happens and 1:39:54.960 --> 1:39:57.960 it's a deeper experience. It's not just let's go see them, 1:39:58.080 --> 1:40:01.040 sit and seat, you know, drink a beer and go home. 1:40:01.560 --> 1:40:03.920 You know, you didn't that there's a better experience than that. 1:40:04.080 --> 1:40:06.960 So I I realized that that's where my music comes in, 1:40:07.120 --> 1:40:10.559 is that it's still an integral part of everything I do. 1:40:11.120 --> 1:40:15.200 I sit around and play music in my house more 1:40:15.240 --> 1:40:17.599 than anything else except cook and sleep. 1:40:18.400 --> 1:40:18.560 You know. 1:40:18.600 --> 1:40:20.799 I spend more time with my guitar. I write songs 1:40:21.320 --> 1:40:23.519 every day. This morning, I turned on my tape recorder. 1:40:23.760 --> 1:40:29.200 I played this this little una like a stone's kind 1:40:29.200 --> 1:40:35.160 of but can't you hear me knock it? I was 1:40:35.200 --> 1:40:38.160 thinking about that song and I was kind of riffing 1:40:38.160 --> 1:40:39.599 off of it. I had to turn my tape recorder. 1:40:39.600 --> 1:40:41.720 I say, oh, this is really cool. Look, because when 1:40:41.760 --> 1:40:45.000 you try to learn somebody else's thing, when you're like me, 1:40:45.720 --> 1:40:47.840 you end up writing your own thing. Because I can't 1:40:47.840 --> 1:40:51.519 ever learn to play somebody else's ship, right, you know, 1:40:51.960 --> 1:40:53.920 I can. I hit this bad note, but well that's 1:40:54.000 --> 1:40:56.719 kind of cool. Yeah, And that's half the way I write. 1:40:57.120 --> 1:40:59.880 I play music all the time. It's and I you know, 1:41:00.160 --> 1:41:02.320 I went down on my basement yesterday and sang for 1:41:02.360 --> 1:41:04.920 an hour. Just always try to keep my voice where 1:41:05.000 --> 1:41:07.280 for the emergency I had to jump on stage, I 1:41:07.280 --> 1:41:10.200 can sing. My voice is more important to me than 1:41:10.240 --> 1:41:12.760 my dick. And I'm not joking as much as I'm 1:41:12.840 --> 1:41:16.120 you know, my dick's important. But if it doesn't work 1:41:16.280 --> 1:41:18.679 for some reason, I say, well i'll work tomorrow. 1:41:18.800 --> 1:41:20.840 If my voice doesn't work, I'm going in. 1:41:21.000 --> 1:41:23.760 I'm fucked because you step up on stage and you 1:41:23.840 --> 1:41:26.120 can't sing. That's the most embarrassing thing on the planet. 1:41:26.320 --> 1:41:30.479 And I care about my voice and about my chops, 1:41:30.520 --> 1:41:34.040 and I'm ready, and I'm I'm That's why I'm I 1:41:34.160 --> 1:41:35.559 like to the idea of being able to jump on 1:41:35.600 --> 1:41:38.720 stage stress the way you are, because that way I 1:41:38.720 --> 1:41:40.599 feel like, well, I got all the other shit together 1:41:40.720 --> 1:41:41.920 in case I just have to do it. 1:41:41.920 --> 1:41:42.599 Well, I'm ready. 1:41:42.640 --> 1:41:44.519 You know, I don't want to say well I couldn't 1:41:44.520 --> 1:41:48.160 sing because I wasn't dressed, right, That would be kind 1:41:48.160 --> 1:41:48.559 of funny. 1:41:48.880 --> 1:41:52.360 Okay. I love my music now, it's my basis. 1:41:52.479 --> 1:41:56.160 You've had this great success, but parallel to your success 1:41:56.200 --> 1:41:59.320 in the twenty first century, the music business has changed. 1:42:00.000 --> 1:42:03.640 I don't care if you're Paul McCartney or your Bruce Springsteen. 1:42:04.080 --> 1:42:09.040 You make new music has a very minimal impact. Okay. 1:42:09.080 --> 1:42:11.280 Whereas it used to be went all the radio stations 1:42:11.320 --> 1:42:13.160 that we listened to the radio, there was a learned 1:42:13.200 --> 1:42:16.040 amount of product. Then there was MTV et cetera. Has 1:42:16.120 --> 1:42:18.519 this you know a lot of people stopped making new music. 1:42:18.920 --> 1:42:22.479 Has this affected your motivation? No? 1:42:23.320 --> 1:42:23.719 Uh. 1:42:24.680 --> 1:42:28.960 The thing that affected my motivation was I felt like 1:42:29.040 --> 1:42:31.320 I was dried up a little bit like I said, 1:42:31.360 --> 1:42:33.200 pretty much said it on you. I'm a lyricist, so 1:42:33.240 --> 1:42:35.479 I've written every lyric of every song. 1:42:35.680 --> 1:42:37.479 You know, I never have a lyricist for it. 1:42:38.240 --> 1:42:41.519 Well, a couple of times, but three out of five 1:42:41.600 --> 1:42:45.760 hundred songs I've written, I'm the lyricist. It's hard to 1:42:45.920 --> 1:42:50.160 find inspiration. So without inspiration, I won't just finish and 1:42:50.160 --> 1:42:50.720 write a song. 1:42:50.760 --> 1:42:51.040 I said. 1:42:51.040 --> 1:42:53.160 I was jamming around today, but I didn't have the 1:42:53.200 --> 1:42:55.559 inspiration to finish it. 1:42:55.960 --> 1:42:56.200 You know. 1:42:56.560 --> 1:43:01.000 Sometimes a song like father Time, which is my favorite 1:43:01.000 --> 1:43:04.200 song I've written in the last forty years, maybe maybe 1:43:04.280 --> 1:43:08.320 my whole life. It was so inspired that I picked 1:43:08.360 --> 1:43:10.680 up the guitar and just played it and say it. 1:43:11.040 --> 1:43:13.639 And I had to actually turn on my little tape 1:43:13.640 --> 1:43:15.559 recorder on my phone. I just had to say, fuck, 1:43:15.560 --> 1:43:18.760 I better record this. It's coming. It's coming, the whole thing, 1:43:18.840 --> 1:43:22.280 the words, everything I had a thought about. I told 1:43:22.320 --> 1:43:25.519 you about the growing old, thinking, wow, how many more 1:43:25.600 --> 1:43:27.320 years I got left. I started looking at the other 1:43:27.400 --> 1:43:31.200 side and and and I just the words just came, 1:43:31.800 --> 1:43:34.000 you know, And I just started talking about the situation 1:43:34.120 --> 1:43:36.240 I was in, and you know, where I was sitting, 1:43:36.280 --> 1:43:38.400 I hear the waves crashing I'm in my house in Maui. 1:43:38.640 --> 1:43:40.599 I'm hearing the waves crashing on the shore. That's been 1:43:40.640 --> 1:43:43.000 going on forever and more, you know, But there's something 1:43:43.040 --> 1:43:47.240 about the sun in Mexico. It just burns different. Those 1:43:47.240 --> 1:43:50.160 are lyrics that those were that was a thought that 1:43:50.240 --> 1:43:52.400 I had right then and there I'm hearing the waves 1:43:52.400 --> 1:43:54.639 crashing that's been going on for ever. Yeah, but I'm 1:43:54.640 --> 1:43:56.880 in Hawaii, Mexico. It's different, you know what I mean. 1:43:57.120 --> 1:43:59.639 And that's the kind of songs that I look for 1:43:59.680 --> 1:44:02.240 nowaday and if they come, enough comes, I'll make a 1:44:02.280 --> 1:44:04.760 record every time. And I'm sitting on about five of 1:44:04.800 --> 1:44:07.400 them right now, and I'm sitting and thinking, I don't 1:44:07.400 --> 1:44:10.040 feel like making another record, but I might have to 1:44:10.360 --> 1:44:14.479 my last one. Crazy times, you know, I think it's 1:44:14.479 --> 1:44:17.840 the best record I've made since Standy Hampton. You know, 1:44:18.439 --> 1:44:21.000 it's maybe Chicken Floy the first Chicken Fit record. I 1:44:21.080 --> 1:44:23.439 just think it's just fucking brilliant. I love that record. 1:44:23.680 --> 1:44:25.920 But I had a guy like Joe Satriani. It's like 1:44:26.120 --> 1:44:28.920 when you got a Eddie van Halen or Joe Satriani, 1:44:29.439 --> 1:44:32.040 it's much easier to be a lyricist, trust me, because 1:44:32.040 --> 1:44:34.000 they bring you a piece of music that just speaks 1:44:34.040 --> 1:44:37.600 to you. So I'm fine with making records. You know, 1:44:37.600 --> 1:44:40.360 I don't care about money I spent. I've probably lost 1:44:40.400 --> 1:44:42.800 three hundred and fifty thousand dollars on my last record. 1:44:42.840 --> 1:44:45.360 I paid for it, you know, I didn't care. I 1:44:45.400 --> 1:44:47.960 don't need a record company anymore. I mean I need 1:44:48.000 --> 1:44:50.840 them to distribute, but I don't need them to give 1:44:50.920 --> 1:44:51.880 me money to write. 1:44:52.560 --> 1:44:52.760 You know. 1:44:54.200 --> 1:44:58.000 Okay, on this last record, you work with Dave Cobb, 1:44:58.280 --> 1:45:02.840 who's the hottest, most respect producer national does Chris Stapleton 1:45:02.840 --> 1:45:05.559 along with a million other things. How did you hook 1:45:05.640 --> 1:45:07.439 up with Cobb? And what did he add? 1:45:08.479 --> 1:45:11.400 Oh, he's the greatest producer on the planet. Man, He's 1:45:11.080 --> 1:45:15.280 He's right up there with Templeman. You know, Ted Templeman 1:45:15.400 --> 1:45:18.080 was a great producer because because he produced you, he 1:45:18.160 --> 1:45:22.040 didn't make you come to him. You know, he took 1:45:22.080 --> 1:45:24.680 your music and just made it better. That's what Cobb does. 1:45:24.720 --> 1:45:27.799 He's brilliant. He's fucking the best. I've said I couldn't 1:45:27.800 --> 1:45:29.679 work with another producer ever, I don't think if I'd 1:45:29.680 --> 1:45:31.400 make another record have to be a cop. Well, he 1:45:31.520 --> 1:45:34.320 came to me, he said, he reached out to my 1:45:34.360 --> 1:45:37.320 management company and said his manager said, said, Dave wants 1:45:37.320 --> 1:45:40.520 to produce a Sammy Hagar record, and is he interested? 1:45:40.640 --> 1:45:43.920 And I said, look, yeah, you know, so I talked 1:45:43.960 --> 1:45:45.240 to him on the phone. I told him I wanted 1:45:45.240 --> 1:45:47.160 to make At that time with the Circle, when we 1:45:47.160 --> 1:45:49.040 were brand new, I said, I want to make a 1:45:49.240 --> 1:45:52.000 Maricana record. I want to make a record like the band, 1:45:52.280 --> 1:45:55.040 you know, like I want to write that kind of music. 1:45:55.040 --> 1:45:59.639 I want to be very acoustic and heavy harmony, very 1:45:59.680 --> 1:46:01.519 you know, Americana. 1:46:00.920 --> 1:46:04.839 You know, to the bone and bluesy folky. 1:46:05.200 --> 1:46:07.720 And he said, oh no, man, he goes, I grew 1:46:07.800 --> 1:46:10.400 up on fucking Stanley Hampton and fifty one fifty. Get 1:46:10.439 --> 1:46:12.880 the fuck out of here, he goes, I make those 1:46:13.000 --> 1:46:13.679 kind of records. 1:46:13.720 --> 1:46:14.040 I don't. 1:46:14.360 --> 1:46:16.320 I want to make a record of you because I 1:46:16.400 --> 1:46:18.000 want to make your record. I want to make the 1:46:18.040 --> 1:46:22.679 definitive Sammy Hagar record. I want Montrose, Sammy Hagar, Chicken 1:46:22.680 --> 1:46:25.200 Foot Van Halen, I want everything you did in that. 1:46:25.320 --> 1:46:28.120 I want to make it just you know, blah blah blah. 1:46:28.160 --> 1:46:31.040 I want Michael Anthony in there with you, with those harmonies. 1:46:31.040 --> 1:46:33.439 And I'm going, shit, Well, I just don't really want 1:46:33.479 --> 1:46:35.599 to make a record like that right now. And then 1:46:35.880 --> 1:46:39.439 a couple of years later, I started writing these cool 1:46:39.520 --> 1:46:42.080 songs I got, I got riffed out. I started playing 1:46:42.120 --> 1:46:47.280 these badass guitar riffs, and father Times was in my pocket. 1:46:47.320 --> 1:46:49.960 I'm going to have to record this song soon because otherwise, 1:46:51.040 --> 1:46:52.679 you know, it's just I'm. 1:46:52.479 --> 1:46:53.760 Not going to be in love with it the way 1:46:53.800 --> 1:46:54.360 I am now. 1:46:54.960 --> 1:46:56.840 It was a song that every time I sang, I 1:46:56.880 --> 1:47:00.920 got goosebumps and choked up. That's the kind of song 1:47:01.000 --> 1:47:03.120 I want to write, and that's what I want to sing. 1:47:03.560 --> 1:47:04.120 Goosebumps. 1:47:04.120 --> 1:47:05.960 It can be because it's so bad ass, and I 1:47:05.960 --> 1:47:07.760 could get tears of my eyes because it's so bad ass. 1:47:07.840 --> 1:47:09.360 It don't have to be a sad song, you know 1:47:09.400 --> 1:47:12.519 what I mean. But so anyway, so I said, okay, 1:47:12.680 --> 1:47:13.800 I want to do it, and he said I can 1:47:13.800 --> 1:47:15.479 do it, and blah blah blah, blah blah blah. 1:47:15.520 --> 1:47:17.639 We went back and it was the quickest record ever made. 1:47:17.720 --> 1:47:19.960 My life is right up there with fifty one to 1:47:20.040 --> 1:47:22.640 fifty in the first Montreals record. Those records are just 1:47:22.680 --> 1:47:26.439 done in ten days, you know, And god, it just 1:47:26.520 --> 1:47:29.160 he's so good. He pick up a guitar. He was 1:47:29.200 --> 1:47:31.640 the fifth beatle. I didn't even play guitar on a 1:47:31.640 --> 1:47:35.040 freaking record. He played all my parts and reinvented a 1:47:35.080 --> 1:47:37.880 lot of them, and him and Vic just smoked on 1:47:37.960 --> 1:47:41.280 guitars live as fuck. I sang every song live except 1:47:41.320 --> 1:47:43.439 for a couple of them Pump It Up. I couldn't 1:47:43.439 --> 1:47:45.240 sing the lyrics because I was trying to read them. 1:47:45.280 --> 1:47:47.240 There're too many lyrics. I didn't know him well enough, 1:47:47.280 --> 1:47:49.559 so I had to overdub those. And then the last 1:47:49.560 --> 1:47:51.800 two songs that we wrote, I didn't have lyrics for 1:47:51.880 --> 1:47:57.280 him because we wrote Crazy Times and we wrote Slow Drain, 1:47:57.360 --> 1:48:01.240 the opening track on the Spot. He co wrote it 1:48:01.280 --> 1:48:03.479 with me and Uh. I had to go home and 1:48:03.479 --> 1:48:05.800 write the lyrics that night, and I did and came 1:48:05.840 --> 1:48:07.800 back the next day and sang them, and we were 1:48:07.840 --> 1:48:08.960 done with that freaking record. 1:48:09.040 --> 1:48:10.559 And then. 1:48:12.439 --> 1:48:15.960 Mercuridius said I played it for him because I wanted 1:48:16.080 --> 1:48:19.559 I wanted an opinion. I would have wanted your opinion, Bob. 1:48:19.600 --> 1:48:21.439 I'm not just saying this because I'm talking to you now. 1:48:21.880 --> 1:48:22.080 You know. 1:48:22.160 --> 1:48:24.360 I wasn't thinking he was reaching out to me at 1:48:24.400 --> 1:48:26.479 the time because he wanted to hear the record. Because 1:48:26.479 --> 1:48:28.880 of David Cobb. A lot of people were saying, hey, 1:48:29.000 --> 1:48:30.559 we want to hear what you guys are doing. It's 1:48:30.560 --> 1:48:32.920 a country what is it? No, it's rock, man, It's 1:48:32.960 --> 1:48:35.800 fucking right. And anyway, so I took it this house. 1:48:35.840 --> 1:48:38.200 I played it for him and he said that last 1:48:38.240 --> 1:48:42.599 song is just classic childhood's end. He goes, you need 1:48:42.640 --> 1:48:45.200 to take a piece of that and re record it, 1:48:45.280 --> 1:48:47.680 running through some effects way in the backgroun. He just 1:48:47.720 --> 1:48:49.439 came up with this wild idea and put it at 1:48:49.479 --> 1:48:52.599 the beginning, just for a few seconds, and then you 1:48:52.640 --> 1:48:55.559 have a concept record. And I said, wow, you're right, 1:48:55.680 --> 1:48:57.960 I do because it was it is a concept record. 1:48:58.400 --> 1:49:01.200 It's about Covid child who's. 1:49:01.000 --> 1:49:03.320 In Man, we're all grown up now, went we all 1:49:03.360 --> 1:49:06.759 went through that shit together and nobody, We're not fooling ourselves. 1:49:06.760 --> 1:49:09.439 Man, this is real, uh, hard times. 1:49:10.080 --> 1:49:12.840 And so I re recorded that thing and Cobb did 1:49:12.920 --> 1:49:14.720 it in the hotel room. He was on tour with 1:49:14.880 --> 1:49:17.160 Chris Stapleton. He was in Vegas in a hotel room. 1:49:17.320 --> 1:49:19.160 I told him what I wanted to do. He got 1:49:19.200 --> 1:49:22.600 acoustic guitar. He put it on his frecking iPhone. He 1:49:22.640 --> 1:49:24.720 played the acoustic guitar part. He said, I want to 1:49:24.760 --> 1:49:26.280 do it different because I want to put it in 1:49:26.280 --> 1:49:27.960 a different key so that you don't have to scream it. 1:49:28.120 --> 1:49:30.000 And I said yeah, yeah, yeah, and then he sent 1:49:30.080 --> 1:49:32.280 it to me. I went into my studio played his 1:49:32.360 --> 1:49:35.920 thing back, saying it sent it to him. He's on 1:49:35.960 --> 1:49:37.840 the front of the record and we have a concept record. 1:49:38.120 --> 1:49:41.320 I mean, that's how brilliant he is. He's just ficking good. 1:49:41.720 --> 1:49:43.840 I never see a guy work so fast and don't 1:49:44.000 --> 1:49:48.160 he don't get hung up. He never says hmmm, let 1:49:48.200 --> 1:49:51.920 me no, no, He just fucking you know, yeah, boom, 1:49:51.960 --> 1:49:54.320 let's do there. Okay, don't play let's watch out, watch 1:49:54.320 --> 1:49:56.120 out your drum part there to go back to the bridge, 1:49:56.160 --> 1:49:56.679 play the bridge? 1:49:56.720 --> 1:49:58.120 Good? Yeah, Well, you know he's like that. 1:49:58.200 --> 1:50:02.559 He just bam bam, bam bam and just orchestrating and 1:50:03.000 --> 1:50:04.000 has his shit together. 1:50:04.040 --> 1:50:08.240 He's a bad motherfucker excuse. And so is Chris Stapleton, 1:50:08.280 --> 1:50:08.679 by the way. 1:50:11.000 --> 1:50:15.920 Okay, so you make new music when you go play live, 1:50:16.680 --> 1:50:20.360 it's like Jimmy Buffett. There's a core number of songs 1:50:20.800 --> 1:50:24.720 that he has to play every night. Okay, do you 1:50:24.960 --> 1:50:27.759 find that your audience will listen to the new music. 1:50:28.320 --> 1:50:34.040 Absolutely, I didn't this new record. I wanted to go 1:50:34.040 --> 1:50:36.760 out and play the whole damn record. But I took 1:50:36.800 --> 1:50:39.800 the year off, you know, I did. I did a 1:50:39.840 --> 1:50:43.680 quick tour with George Throgod last year and then and 1:50:43.720 --> 1:50:46.200 then this year I wanted to take off. And so 1:50:46.960 --> 1:50:50.040 the record's coming gone now and we never got to 1:50:50.080 --> 1:50:51.679 rehearse and build a new show. 1:50:52.080 --> 1:50:53.559 We just do spotty shows. 1:50:53.600 --> 1:50:55.599 And I said, oh, I'll take that weekend like we're 1:50:55.600 --> 1:50:58.080 playing Vegas and Tahoe in a couple of weeks. 1:50:58.400 --> 1:50:59.800 And I say, well, I guess got to do the 1:50:59.840 --> 1:51:01.000 same show. You know. 1:51:01.200 --> 1:51:03.840 Maybe we'll throw one new song, because this band can 1:51:03.960 --> 1:51:05.639 learn in the dresser and we can play a new 1:51:05.680 --> 1:51:07.880 song just like and we we do it constantly. We 1:51:08.000 --> 1:51:10.320 always sew a new song or two, and especially the 1:51:10.400 --> 1:51:12.880 van Halen stuff. We got a reservoir of van Halen 1:51:13.000 --> 1:51:15.960 that we can play. Sometimes we go out and say, 1:51:16.160 --> 1:51:18.160 let's just play a fucking hour of van Halen. This 1:51:18.240 --> 1:51:19.920 fuck with these people hard, you know what I mean, 1:51:20.040 --> 1:51:22.720 They keep it hit you know, fifty one, fifty oh 1:51:22.920 --> 1:51:25.040 you know, oh you wait one too, you know, four 1:51:25.080 --> 1:51:27.320 and off gone out. So we'll play a record a 1:51:27.400 --> 1:51:30.040 song from all these different things, and you know, the 1:51:30.080 --> 1:51:32.519 audience goes crazy, they lap it up. They'd rather hear 1:51:32.560 --> 1:51:37.360 that than anything. But my songs are I can deliver. 1:51:37.479 --> 1:51:40.000 I'm a I'm a performer, you know, I'm more than 1:51:40.360 --> 1:51:42.960 an artist. I think it being such a performer. I'm 1:51:43.000 --> 1:51:46.040 such a performer. That has kept me from getting artists respect, 1:51:46.240 --> 1:51:48.040 like you know, like these guys that just stand there 1:51:48.080 --> 1:51:51.599 and sing, and you know, I never get that respect. 1:51:51.600 --> 1:51:51.760 You know. 1:51:51.760 --> 1:51:54.400 They always talk about my show and my rap, what 1:51:54.520 --> 1:51:57.439 I sit on stage, and my antics and and this 1:51:57.479 --> 1:51:59.840 and that. So I jump around and run around. I 1:51:59.840 --> 1:52:02.200 can deliver a song, a brand new song, as good 1:52:02.200 --> 1:52:04.920 as I can deliver. I can't drive fifty five, so 1:52:04.920 --> 1:52:07.439 so I don't worry about new songs and my fans 1:52:07.960 --> 1:52:10.280 if I'm not opening for someone, which I never do. 1:52:11.280 --> 1:52:13.920 If they're all my fans, and they'll they love anything 1:52:13.960 --> 1:52:15.680 because they're used to be in cabbo where I go 1:52:15.720 --> 1:52:17.479 on stage and I'll play two hours, but not even 1:52:17.479 --> 1:52:19.679 play one of my own songs, you know, for two 1:52:19.720 --> 1:52:22.840 ficking hours with the right guys, you know, so they're 1:52:22.960 --> 1:52:25.760 used to that. You know, I'm almost like the grateful dead. 1:52:25.920 --> 1:52:27.960 They're used to saying, well, these you don't know what 1:52:28.000 --> 1:52:29.559 you're gonna get, but you know you're going to get 1:52:29.600 --> 1:52:32.360 a party, you know. And I like being that guy. 1:52:32.479 --> 1:52:35.720 I love it, and I of course I play. I 1:52:35.760 --> 1:52:39.439 always end the show with mas tequila, heavy metal, one 1:52:39.479 --> 1:52:41.960 way to rock or if I can't drive fifty five. 1:52:42.080 --> 1:52:45.400 Almost always end my set that way. I don't do 1:52:45.560 --> 1:52:48.320 encores anymore, haven't done on Coors for fifteen years since 1:52:48.320 --> 1:52:49.559 I left fan Hanel, and I don't think. 1:52:49.760 --> 1:52:52.559 I don't leave the stage. I finish my show. 1:52:53.000 --> 1:52:55.360 There's an hour and forty minutes whatever it is, and 1:52:56.040 --> 1:52:59.120 I stand there and I've opened up a cocktail or 1:52:59.200 --> 1:53:01.759 make mix myself a drink right out stage. We fuck around, 1:53:01.800 --> 1:53:04.559 Everybody goes to towels off, Mike and I do a toast, 1:53:04.800 --> 1:53:06.439 do a couple of shots, a couple of pops. 1:53:06.680 --> 1:53:08.439 Drummer walks around. You know. 1:53:08.479 --> 1:53:10.639 I talk to the people and they don't even bother, 1:53:10.800 --> 1:53:14.040 like yeah me. You know they know that we're not done, 1:53:14.080 --> 1:53:15.880 you know. And then when I feel like it, then 1:53:15.880 --> 1:53:17.320 we just start playing encores. 1:53:17.760 --> 1:53:21.280 And I usually like to end my whole show of 1:53:21.479 --> 1:53:22.240 all together. 1:53:22.320 --> 1:53:25.559 Before you walk out that show, you're gonna hear either 1:53:25.640 --> 1:53:30.360 Eagles Fly, Father Time now or when it's Love by 1:53:30.439 --> 1:53:34.760 Van Halem, and it's usually Eagles Fly or Father Time, 1:53:35.280 --> 1:53:37.640 and then when it's love and then it's all like, 1:53:37.960 --> 1:53:38.360 thank you. 1:53:38.680 --> 1:53:39.880 This is what it's all about. You know. 1:53:39.960 --> 1:53:42.519 That song it's one of the greatest ballads ever written 1:53:42.960 --> 1:53:45.479 in the history of rock, I think. And I'm proud 1:53:45.520 --> 1:53:48.280 of that lyric. I'm proud of that music Eddie wrote. 1:53:48.360 --> 1:53:52.320 And that song gives me the goosebumps every freaking time. 1:53:52.640 --> 1:53:58.120 So that's playing new songs, it just would just be 1:53:58.160 --> 1:54:00.519 it's just part of the event because it's an it's 1:54:00.560 --> 1:54:03.080 not a show, it's not a set, you know. 1:54:03.600 --> 1:54:06.200 And I can't wait to go back out again. 1:54:07.360 --> 1:54:12.000 And I'm really interested in really really digging deep into 1:54:12.080 --> 1:54:16.439 van Halen. See I've shied away from doing that because 1:54:16.560 --> 1:54:21.720 of now you know, the friction between us and you know, 1:54:21.760 --> 1:54:24.240 and there was van Halen. But now that Eddie's gone 1:54:24.800 --> 1:54:28.640 and I've hit al a hundred times out, call me. 1:54:28.920 --> 1:54:31.240 Let's get together. Let's make some music, you know what 1:54:31.280 --> 1:54:33.760 I mean. It's not about trying to be van Halen. 1:54:33.840 --> 1:54:37.000 It's about give a servant the fans, and let's play 1:54:37.040 --> 1:54:40.040 that music together. For God's sakes, how could you not 1:54:40.680 --> 1:54:42.800 when you're the least singers still alive. You've got two 1:54:42.840 --> 1:54:45.080 of them that are still alive. One of them is 1:54:45.320 --> 1:54:50.320 less user friendly. But Mikey and Alan myself just let's 1:54:50.320 --> 1:54:53.720 just go play music, you know, And he just won't respond. 1:54:54.240 --> 1:54:57.800 Since Eddie's death, he's been really shut down with me anyway. 1:54:58.120 --> 1:55:01.240 So I'm gonna go out and play that fucking music, 1:55:01.640 --> 1:55:03.920 you know what I mean. I feel like it's well, 1:55:03.960 --> 1:55:06.440 I can still sing it. I got Michael Anthony, He's 1:55:06.480 --> 1:55:08.840 the other half. We call ourselves the other half, you know. 1:55:08.880 --> 1:55:11.680 There's ed All and Sam and Mike, you know, and 1:55:11.720 --> 1:55:16.600 we've roomed that we've traveled that way too. So I'm 1:55:16.640 --> 1:55:20.920 really horny after taking this year off to do some 1:55:21.080 --> 1:55:24.200 of them, more of even more than I've ever done, 1:55:24.240 --> 1:55:27.000 because I think the fans need it, you know. I 1:55:27.560 --> 1:55:29.840 just hope I can sing long enough to be able 1:55:29.880 --> 1:55:31.800 to play my greatest hits, A little Chicken Foot, a 1:55:31.800 --> 1:55:34.640 little Montros. Always got to play one Mantro song, you know, 1:55:34.720 --> 1:55:37.560 Space Station of five, rock Candy or Bad Motor Scooter. 1:55:37.640 --> 1:55:41.840 I mean, I have to do that, and I don't know, 1:55:42.000 --> 1:55:43.800 so if I can my voice a hold up to 1:55:43.840 --> 1:55:44.600 be able to sing two. 1:55:44.520 --> 1:55:45.760 And a half or three hours. 1:55:46.000 --> 1:55:48.680 Maybe taking a break in between, maybe Mikey sings a 1:55:48.720 --> 1:55:50.920 few of the old Van Halen songs and like we 1:55:50.960 --> 1:55:53.080 do now, he sings around with the Devil, or he 1:55:53.160 --> 1:55:54.960 sings Ain't talking about love in the middle of the show. 1:55:55.320 --> 1:55:56.960 Maybe he sings a few more of those and I 1:55:57.000 --> 1:55:59.400 take a little break, but somehow so we can get 1:55:59.400 --> 1:56:04.240 it all in to the definitive Sammy show. You know, 1:56:05.320 --> 1:56:07.120 let's you know, finish what you started here, you know 1:56:07.160 --> 1:56:12.360 what I mean. It's like Eddie's death really really made 1:56:12.400 --> 1:56:15.600 it so dysfunctional because either you know, him and I 1:56:15.680 --> 1:56:17.680 were the fearless leaders, you know, really, I mean, roth 1:56:17.840 --> 1:56:19.800 was a leader in his day. I was a leader 1:56:19.800 --> 1:56:22.440 in my day, and then Eddie became the leader, you know, 1:56:22.800 --> 1:56:26.240 after I was gone, and it's like without a leader, 1:56:26.800 --> 1:56:28.720 there's no one hurting the cats, you know. 1:56:28.960 --> 1:56:31.600 And Wolfey it's not his job. You know, I love 1:56:31.640 --> 1:56:32.280 what he's doing. 1:56:32.320 --> 1:56:35.200 He's he's killing it out there by himself, you know, 1:56:35.360 --> 1:56:38.000 playing all the instruments. You know, he doesn't want to 1:56:38.000 --> 1:56:40.240 carry on the vand Handle legacy, but it has to 1:56:40.320 --> 1:56:42.640 be carried on. Some of the greatest songs in rock 1:56:42.720 --> 1:56:45.920 ever written, and for nobody to be able to go 1:56:45.960 --> 1:56:48.080 out there and do the whole thing is crazy. You know, 1:56:48.200 --> 1:56:51.080 Roth can't sing my song, so he you know, I 1:56:51.080 --> 1:56:52.720 don't want to say it, but you know he he 1:56:52.760 --> 1:56:54.560 doesn't do that great of a job on his own, 1:56:54.680 --> 1:56:57.160 so he don't want to. He don't want to mess 1:56:57.200 --> 1:57:00.440 around with mind. But you know I can sing his songs, 1:57:00.440 --> 1:57:02.440 and Mikey can sing his songs. It's like, you know, 1:57:02.560 --> 1:57:05.280 if he wanted to join us, oh, I'd say, come 1:57:05.320 --> 1:57:07.720 on in a minute, but I already tried that. He's 1:57:07.760 --> 1:57:12.040 not so user friendly. But they're not criticizing him at all. Man, 1:57:12.080 --> 1:57:16.640 those songs are great. The early fucking van Halen. Van 1:57:16.720 --> 1:57:20.160 Halen don't have a stinker in their whole fucking catalog. 1:57:20.240 --> 1:57:24.760 You know, even stupid songs like on the Inside that 1:57:24.800 --> 1:57:27.920 we did on fifty and fifty, it's still great. You know, 1:57:28.640 --> 1:57:30.800 ice cream, man, it's still great. You know they're they're 1:57:31.480 --> 1:57:33.520 they could do no wrong. You got fucking Eddy van 1:57:33.520 --> 1:57:37.200 Halen playing guitar. It's got to come out pretty good. 1:57:38.040 --> 1:57:40.960 Okay, speaking of songs, and you mentioned Murk, which has 1:57:41.040 --> 1:57:43.919 the company Hypnosis, who owns your songs. 1:57:43.960 --> 1:57:48.560 Now, I sold a great deal of my early catalog 1:57:48.680 --> 1:57:51.920 to Warner Chapel, which was my you know label for 1:57:52.040 --> 1:57:53.960 most of the years for all that, and they've always 1:57:53.960 --> 1:57:57.800 been my publishers, and I sold a lot of it 1:57:57.840 --> 1:57:59.600 to them, but not my new stuff. 1:57:59.600 --> 1:58:00.960 I still own all my new stuff. 1:58:01.000 --> 1:58:07.000 And when I say my new stuff from about Chicken 1:58:07.000 --> 1:58:07.600 foot on. 1:58:08.760 --> 1:58:12.800 Now you sold the stuff, do you regret selling it? 1:58:13.360 --> 1:58:13.560 No? 1:58:14.680 --> 1:58:18.440 The I mean if I needed money, I would regret 1:58:18.480 --> 1:58:20.440 because the amount you can sell it for today from 1:58:20.480 --> 1:58:23.960 what I sold it for is like ten times. But 1:58:24.080 --> 1:58:27.440 I don't need money, so I don't regret because the 1:58:27.480 --> 1:58:32.000 amount of money those songs were earning and for compared 1:58:32.240 --> 1:58:35.520 per year, it would have taken me twenty years to 1:58:35.520 --> 1:58:38.480 get the money that I sold them for. And I thought, well, 1:58:38.880 --> 1:58:40.920 why just sit and collect them little trinkets when I 1:58:40.920 --> 1:58:43.040 could have a big chunk and I can do something 1:58:43.080 --> 1:58:45.880 with that, right, And that was my philosophy way back then, 1:58:45.960 --> 1:58:47.680 way before these people were selling their kind of like 1:58:47.800 --> 1:58:50.160 boy was the only guy that you know, I remember 1:58:50.280 --> 1:58:53.280 Bowie sold his rights years ago. First got to do that, 1:58:53.640 --> 1:58:56.200 and that impressed the fuck out of me. But I 1:58:56.200 --> 1:58:57.640 didn't know how I was going to do it. 1:58:57.680 --> 1:58:57.880 You know. 1:58:57.920 --> 1:59:00.840 It's like nobody was beating on my doors saying hey, 1:59:01.280 --> 1:59:03.200 So Warner Chell said hey, we want, you know, want 1:59:03.240 --> 1:59:07.040 to buy you your songs, and I thought, well, maybe 1:59:07.080 --> 1:59:09.600 they'll do something with them. You know, that would be 1:59:09.640 --> 1:59:13.840 great because the music just kind of sitting there dying. 1:59:14.080 --> 1:59:16.840 Things were changing, records weren't selling. So I thought it 1:59:16.920 --> 1:59:19.040 made a good deal. And I did make a good deal, 1:59:19.200 --> 1:59:22.040 but not by today's standards. So I'm like Mark, you know, 1:59:22.320 --> 1:59:26.720 I'm sure he would be right there in line. He's 1:59:26.760 --> 1:59:29.040 a fan, and we talked about it. 1:59:29.080 --> 1:59:29.480 Believe me. 1:59:29.560 --> 1:59:32.040 You know, it's like, yeah, if I needed money, I'd 1:59:32.040 --> 1:59:33.640 be kicking myself and the assid right now. 1:59:34.440 --> 1:59:36.560 I'll just sell another tequila company. What the hell? 1:59:36.760 --> 1:59:36.960 You know? 1:59:38.520 --> 1:59:41.880 Okay, going back to Van Haalen, Legendarily, you were hooked 1:59:41.920 --> 1:59:46.080 up by your mechanic. Yeah, you had been with mocros 1:59:46.120 --> 1:59:50.720 on Warner Brothers. You were then with Capital, you'd switch 1:59:50.880 --> 1:59:55.320 to Geffen. You really had some emphasis, you were really 1:59:55.360 --> 1:59:59.840 going you go to play with the boys and ye, 2:00:00.440 --> 2:00:04.160 well wait a second, you know I got something going 2:00:04.200 --> 2:00:06.640 on with myself phone. Do you immediately say I'm all in. 2:00:08.360 --> 2:00:11.280 Boy? Bob you're telling it like it is. I didn't 2:00:11.400 --> 2:00:13.880 plan on joining that band for five seconds. When Eddie 2:00:13.880 --> 2:00:17.440 called me, I thought, oh, this is great. Because I 2:00:17.560 --> 2:00:20.520 was talking to Ted. I was getting ready to start writing. 2:00:21.680 --> 2:00:23.120 You know, I've just come off tour, but I was 2:00:23.160 --> 2:00:25.560 gonna start writing, and Ted was coaching me all the time. Hey, 2:00:25.840 --> 2:00:27.840 you know, how about this song? How about that song? 2:00:27.880 --> 2:00:29.880 With a song like this? I was sending him little 2:00:29.920 --> 2:00:31.920 snippets and we were talking about doing a new wear. 2:00:31.960 --> 2:00:34.360 So I thought, oh, fuck, man, I'll get Eddie to 2:00:34.360 --> 2:00:37.240 play on my record. This would be like the shit. Yeah, 2:00:37.080 --> 2:00:39.640 oh boy, but what was it. I wouldn't even considering 2:00:39.720 --> 2:00:42.400 joining that band. You know, I was selling double arenas 2:00:42.440 --> 2:00:45.680 almost in every city at that time, and Platt every 2:00:45.680 --> 2:00:50.560 album was platinum, you know, so uh I it was 2:00:50.600 --> 2:00:53.480 so weird. I thought, well, Eddie says, well, just come 2:00:53.480 --> 2:00:55.880 on down. I said, oh, man, I just got off 2:00:55.960 --> 2:00:58.040 on tour. Just cut all my hair off. Man, I 2:00:58.640 --> 2:01:01.320 need a break, man, fuck, I said, But I got 2:01:01.320 --> 2:01:03.040 to come down and get my car anyway, because he 2:01:03.080 --> 2:01:06.400 had seen my car in there. So I thought, well, okay, 2:01:06.400 --> 2:01:07.000 I'll come down. 2:01:07.560 --> 2:01:10.800 I come down. I walk in the studio. It was 2:01:10.840 --> 2:01:11.600 a silly thing. 2:01:11.720 --> 2:01:14.840 I'm sure everybody's heard this story reading in my book 2:01:14.920 --> 2:01:17.360 and stuff. But those guys have been up all night 2:01:18.040 --> 2:01:21.400 playing working on songs. Summer Nights and good Enough and 2:01:21.440 --> 2:01:23.320 a couple of little other jams that were both on 2:01:23.680 --> 2:01:28.080 fifty and fifty. And they were burnts in that place, 2:01:28.120 --> 2:01:31.600 smell like booze and cigarettes. And I actually wore a suit. 2:01:31.640 --> 2:01:33.840 It was a cool suit, you know, like a Versace suit. 2:01:34.240 --> 2:01:37.760 I wore a fucking suit down into them, and Alex 2:01:37.840 --> 2:01:39.720 has got a contract. You have to sign this, a 2:01:39.720 --> 2:01:40.760 non disclosure or anything. 2:01:40.760 --> 2:01:41.520 You're here, you know. 2:01:41.800 --> 2:01:43.800 And then I'm going, what the fuck are these guys are? 2:01:43.960 --> 2:01:50.280 These guys are crazy, you know. But finally I said, well, 2:01:50.440 --> 2:01:53.440 let's just play some music, you know, and they said okay, 2:01:53.480 --> 2:01:55.480 you know, so we went in and we started playing 2:01:55.640 --> 2:02:02.280 did you sign the NBA bok No. Alex is funny. 2:02:02.360 --> 2:02:04.040 Back in those days, he was really trying to be 2:02:04.120 --> 2:02:07.200 a businessman. He was trying to, you know, be kind 2:02:07.200 --> 2:02:10.040 of like the band leader, you know, because especially after Roth, 2:02:10.320 --> 2:02:12.200 he thought he was going to step in there. And 2:02:14.080 --> 2:02:16.520 I walked in and we started playing music. I heard 2:02:16.600 --> 2:02:20.240 those Eddie and Now play together, and you know, never 2:02:20.320 --> 2:02:24.800 mind Mike. You know, it was the magic between those 2:02:24.840 --> 2:02:27.320 two guys. Mike was just filling in the holes on base. 2:02:27.520 --> 2:02:29.200 That's the way you have to play with those two. 2:02:29.960 --> 2:02:35.200 It was the most loosest, greasiest fucking groove I've ever 2:02:35.280 --> 2:02:37.640 heard in my life in rock. It reminded me so 2:02:37.760 --> 2:02:40.760 much of Cream, my favorite band ever, much more than 2:02:40.800 --> 2:02:44.680 that Zeppelin. I love Cream because Cream always played things 2:02:44.720 --> 2:02:48.160 slow and the way Ginger Baker played and it was 2:02:48.240 --> 2:02:54.680 always slow, Budy, It's not slow like Sabbath, but just 2:02:54.800 --> 2:02:57.000 slower like I'm always hyper. 2:02:57.000 --> 2:02:58.600 I'd always say, you know, I'm. 2:02:58.480 --> 2:03:02.040 Speed it up, you know, right, But they alan ed 2:03:02.240 --> 2:03:05.920 kept it down in that deep, greasy pocket. I fell 2:03:05.960 --> 2:03:08.040 in love the same thing. When I went to Cabo. 2:03:08.280 --> 2:03:10.240 I just said, oh fuck, I'm in this band. You 2:03:10.280 --> 2:03:12.680 know what I mean? This is And I just started singing. 2:03:12.440 --> 2:03:16.080 Summer Nights and my radio. 2:03:15.480 --> 2:03:19.520 And everybody's going whoa, and you know, look at goosebumps. 2:03:19.520 --> 2:03:23.320 There they are again, here they come. You can't. You 2:03:23.440 --> 2:03:28.480 just can't describe how it was, like, oh fuck, you know, 2:03:28.640 --> 2:03:30.640 I want to be in this van. I don't care. 2:03:31.280 --> 2:03:34.080 My manager goes, are you crazy? I go see David Geffen. 2:03:34.280 --> 2:03:37.720 Are you crazy? He goes, you realize you're gonna you're 2:03:37.720 --> 2:03:39.920 gonna take a pay cut. You know, you make more 2:03:39.920 --> 2:03:42.200 money your SOULO wars they got to and he goes, 2:03:42.400 --> 2:03:44.880 those guys are a mess, you know. And he tried 2:03:44.880 --> 2:03:48.120 to talk me out of it. And I'm saying, no, Dave, 2:03:48.240 --> 2:03:50.960 you don't understand ed Leffer and me sitting there and 2:03:51.040 --> 2:03:54.520 David Geff and he's sitting on his desk, scratching his head, pacing. 2:03:55.160 --> 2:03:57.520 He goes, you're my biggest artist right now. You know. 2:03:57.840 --> 2:03:58.640 He went on this. 2:03:58.560 --> 2:04:01.680 Whole guilt trip on me. And then he finally he goes, 2:04:01.720 --> 2:04:04.600 you know what, it sounds like, you really want to 2:04:04.600 --> 2:04:06.040 do this. I said, I really do want to do this. 2:04:06.080 --> 2:04:08.360 He goes, I would never stop an artist from doing 2:04:08.360 --> 2:04:11.200 what they want to do. And I went, wow, what 2:04:11.320 --> 2:04:13.720 a good man. And he said, I mean it. I'll 2:04:13.760 --> 2:04:16.480 take care of this. Let me talk to Mooston and 2:04:16.520 --> 2:04:19.080 we'll figure this out. And then he went put a 2:04:19.160 --> 2:04:22.640 gun to Mosad, said you want to see me in 2:04:22.680 --> 2:04:23.120 your band? 2:04:23.200 --> 2:04:26.440 This is my biggest artist. I want half the record. 2:04:26.560 --> 2:04:28.800 This is a rumor I heard he got half of 2:04:28.840 --> 2:04:31.600 the fifty one to fifty record and he got another 2:04:31.680 --> 2:04:35.520 Sammy Hagar record, a solo record without giving Warners half 2:04:35.560 --> 2:04:38.520 of it, because that's what their deal. And then he 2:04:38.560 --> 2:04:41.040 moved on to Universal after that. But at that time, 2:04:41.680 --> 2:04:44.800 that's what he got out of that deal. I'm thinking, Yeah, 2:04:44.960 --> 2:04:47.280 you would never stop an artist from doing with there 2:04:48.920 --> 2:04:52.040 as long as it's good for you. Na, David Geffen 2:04:52.200 --> 2:04:55.040 was He broke me, you know, worldwide. And I never 2:04:57.000 --> 2:05:00.200 forget that man. They believed in me, you know, Carter, 2:05:00.360 --> 2:05:03.120 I mean fucking Carter. I love Carter more than any 2:05:03.160 --> 2:05:05.720 other person, and that in this business for what he 2:05:05.760 --> 2:05:07.320 did for me, and what he did for Tina, what 2:05:07.440 --> 2:05:10.120 he did for Bob Seeger, how many people, what he 2:05:10.160 --> 2:05:12.760 did for the motels, he did it. He stood up 2:05:13.560 --> 2:05:16.800 for you, you know, against the corporate put his neck 2:05:16.840 --> 2:05:17.440 on the line. 2:05:17.640 --> 2:05:21.040 Nobody does that, none of them other A and R guys. 2:05:21.160 --> 2:05:24.080 John Klardner was good for me, same way, but he 2:05:24.080 --> 2:05:26.680 wouldn't put his neck on the line. He'd go, yeah, 2:05:26.840 --> 2:05:30.800 ain't gonna happen. You know that's single. He go, No, 2:05:31.560 --> 2:05:33.480 that single's not going to be a hit. And I'd 2:05:33.480 --> 2:05:35.880 say why not. They say they're not gonna put the money. 2:05:36.400 --> 2:05:38.560 Come on, you gotta be getting. He wouldn't go in 2:05:38.600 --> 2:05:41.880 there and go to batle like Carter Wood. So even 2:05:41.920 --> 2:05:44.120 though I had hits on jupping it out with Carter 2:05:45.200 --> 2:05:46.760 but anyway. 2:05:46.840 --> 2:05:51.320 Okay, so ed Leffler, Okay, he had a legendary reputation. 2:05:51.800 --> 2:05:54.640 How did you hook up with him? How good was he? 2:05:54.720 --> 2:05:58.200 What was his magic? Noel was pushed aside. Edward was 2:05:58.240 --> 2:06:01.560 the manager van Halen? Then ed and to what degree 2:06:01.600 --> 2:06:03.160 did that break up van Halen? 2:06:03.400 --> 2:06:05.440 It totally broke up Van Halo. Ed Leffler was the 2:06:05.440 --> 2:06:07.600 best manager on the planet. He was a one man dog. 2:06:08.040 --> 2:06:10.640 He had Juice Newton for five minutes and he you know, 2:06:10.680 --> 2:06:14.000 but he really he managed van Halen and he was he. 2:06:14.840 --> 2:06:17.280 He lived and breathed van Halen. You know. 2:06:17.360 --> 2:06:22.280 Every Tuesday night they get together all the promo guys 2:06:22.280 --> 2:06:25.760 at his house with all the hookers in the freaking 2:06:26.160 --> 2:06:28.680 drugs and rock and rolling, and they would have the 2:06:28.720 --> 2:06:31.280 time of their lives to be getting your airplay for 2:06:31.320 --> 2:06:35.360 the next week. I mean, he lived and breathed it. 2:06:35.600 --> 2:06:40.320 And when he when Eddie and I we never we 2:06:40.440 --> 2:06:44.640 never had to discuss anything between us except music, and 2:06:44.680 --> 2:06:46.360 because ed Leffler took care of it. If we had 2:06:46.400 --> 2:06:49.160 a problem. We took it to Ed and Ed would say, well, 2:06:49.280 --> 2:06:51.680 Eddie's not going to like that. I'd say, yeah, but Ed, 2:06:51.920 --> 2:06:53.800 you know, I want to do this solo record, you know, 2:06:53.840 --> 2:06:56.080 blah blah blah. I'm getting a divorce and and I 2:06:56.480 --> 2:06:59.120 can use that money, you know, pay my wife off. 2:06:59.160 --> 2:07:01.040 You know, so I want to do the greatest hits record. 2:07:01.360 --> 2:07:04.200 Edie's not gonna like it, you know that. I'm going, yeah, well, 2:07:04.560 --> 2:07:07.840 can you fix it? He could fix it right, and 2:07:07.880 --> 2:07:10.560 then you know, nothing to be said. Ever, I never 2:07:10.720 --> 2:07:13.280 mad to talk to Eddie about it. When Ed Lefler died, 2:07:13.320 --> 2:07:14.960 I had to talk to Eddie about things, and when 2:07:15.200 --> 2:07:16.680 he had to talk to me about things, and it 2:07:16.800 --> 2:07:17.560 was like, what. 2:07:17.480 --> 2:07:19.880 The fuck are you talking about? No fucking way am I. 2:07:19.920 --> 2:07:23.880 You know, So he kept the band together absolutely, one 2:07:23.920 --> 2:07:25.840 hundred percent. And then you bring in a new guy 2:07:26.160 --> 2:07:29.560 who kind of poisons the brothers seeing where the power 2:07:29.680 --> 2:07:32.440 is at this time. Now they were kind of going 2:07:32.480 --> 2:07:34.880 against me. We all know that there was a you know, 2:07:35.000 --> 2:07:40.960 like I was the outsider guy. So you know, he 2:07:41.760 --> 2:07:43.440 went with them. They said, we don't want Sammy to 2:07:43.480 --> 2:07:45.800 do solo records. Okay, I'll fix it. Goes to Warner Brothers, 2:07:46.040 --> 2:07:48.280 take his name off. No more solo records of Samy. 2:07:48.320 --> 2:07:50.320 I had a contract record do a solo record after 2:07:50.360 --> 2:07:53.480 every band, Halo record if I wanted, and I never did. 2:07:53.520 --> 2:07:54.040 But it was a. 2:07:54.040 --> 2:07:58.560 Huge deal Leffler made when I joined the band, so 2:07:59.440 --> 2:08:01.680 they took that, you know, it just start all that 2:08:01.760 --> 2:08:04.080 kind of poisoning stuff. And then as soon as I 2:08:04.120 --> 2:08:07.120 got thrown out of the band and he brought Gary Sharona, 2:08:07.120 --> 2:08:09.440 and we all know about that, he got thrown out 2:08:09.480 --> 2:08:09.920 with Gary. 2:08:10.000 --> 2:08:12.600 So it just was a shame the way it all 2:08:12.640 --> 2:08:12.960 went down. 2:08:13.000 --> 2:08:15.280 Leffler, if he wouldn't have died, Van Haler would still 2:08:15.280 --> 2:08:18.400 be together, absolutely and still the biggest band in the world. 2:08:19.000 --> 2:08:22.280 But Ed I met Ed, he had that band Sweet, 2:08:23.000 --> 2:08:25.800 and I was just signed to Capitol and Sweet was 2:08:25.840 --> 2:08:29.440 on Capital. So they were playing their their American debut 2:08:29.520 --> 2:08:32.160 at with their big hit ballroom Blitz or whatever. It 2:08:32.200 --> 2:08:36.920 was their first one and at the Santa Monica Civic. 2:08:38.080 --> 2:08:40.080 This is a great story, Bob, I got. I gotta 2:08:40.120 --> 2:08:42.440 go in one step deeper because this is a great story. 2:08:42.680 --> 2:08:46.840 Paul Kossoff from Free who was had a real bad 2:08:46.920 --> 2:08:51.280 drug problem and I I was opening for him at 2:08:51.320 --> 2:08:56.000 that that old rock and roll place down on Santa Monica. 2:08:57.720 --> 2:09:02.960 What was that rock club? Our Wood? Yeah, maybe it 2:09:03.000 --> 2:09:03.640 was a star War? 2:09:03.760 --> 2:09:05.400 Was it the Star War? That's not on Santa Monic. 2:09:05.440 --> 2:09:08.960 I mean that's not on Sunset. The star Ward was down. 2:09:08.920 --> 2:09:11.640 Not on Sunset, it is on it was on Santa Monica. 2:09:11.800 --> 2:09:13.320 Yeah, that's it. Then by the Star Wars. 2:09:13.640 --> 2:09:17.000 Okay, So I'm opening for Paul Kossoff there doing my 2:09:17.480 --> 2:09:23.240 Capital debut. I'm I'm auditioning for a Capitol deal. Paul 2:09:23.280 --> 2:09:26.960 Kossoff was wasted. I killed it for one thing. Leffler 2:09:27.080 --> 2:09:31.240 was there, saw me, right, and they said, we want 2:09:31.240 --> 2:09:34.760 to We're gonna sign that guy, uh, Carter and all 2:09:34.760 --> 2:09:36.400 those guys. So they said, we want to sign that guy, 2:09:36.440 --> 2:09:39.640 meaning me, and maybe you can put him on tour 2:09:39.640 --> 2:09:42.120 with Sweet And Leffler said, quote unquote them, you think 2:09:42.120 --> 2:09:46.760 I would let that fucking wild ass, blonde, fuzzy haired 2:09:46.760 --> 2:09:50.480 motherfucker play before my band? You're crazy, right? And Carter 2:09:50.640 --> 2:09:52.880 told me this story. Ed told me too later, so 2:09:53.320 --> 2:09:55.440 they said, oh, fuck, you know whatever. So I did 2:09:55.560 --> 2:09:58.680 get to meet it, none of that. The next two 2:09:58.760 --> 2:10:01.960 days later, Paul coss Up was on an airplane the 2:10:01.960 --> 2:10:05.160 next day to San Diego for another show. He died 2:10:05.160 --> 2:10:07.200 on the plane of an overdose and there hat attack 2:10:07.280 --> 2:10:11.320 whatever happened to him. He was opening for Sweet, so 2:10:12.160 --> 2:10:15.400 they go, hey, you know, hey, that guy you saw 2:10:15.560 --> 2:10:17.960 get him on the show. Head's going fuck yeah, he's 2:10:18.000 --> 2:10:20.520 all you know, I guess he was all pissed off 2:10:20.520 --> 2:10:23.400 and he let me do it. I killed it. I 2:10:23.480 --> 2:10:26.560 jumped off the stage, went into the audience, fucking you know. 2:10:26.920 --> 2:10:32.440 I did every trick in the book. And Sweet comes 2:10:32.480 --> 2:10:35.200 on stage. They did good, but you know, I did 2:10:35.240 --> 2:10:38.320 really good, and and ed after the show, he asked 2:10:38.320 --> 2:10:40.120 if somebody to bring me into the dress room to 2:10:40.160 --> 2:10:42.960 meet with Sweet, and he I walk in. He's got 2:10:42.960 --> 2:10:45.360 the lead singer in the fucking corner. He's smoking a cigarette, 2:10:45.360 --> 2:10:48.280 he's got his finger in his face and he's telling him, 2:10:48.720 --> 2:10:49.240 you see. 2:10:49.080 --> 2:10:50.920 What that fucking guy did. You see what that fucking 2:10:50.960 --> 2:10:51.360 guy did. 2:10:51.400 --> 2:10:53.960 And you're standing up there, you know, like some fucking pompous, 2:10:54.200 --> 2:10:55.480 you know, asshole Rock started. 2:10:55.800 --> 2:10:57.440 He was chewing him out hard. Man. 2:10:57.480 --> 2:10:59.600 I walk in and there goes, hey, just a minute, 2:10:59.760 --> 2:11:01.480 and I want to see you, And I said, okay. 2:11:02.240 --> 2:11:04.320 I mean he was so mafiosa. I fell in love 2:11:04.360 --> 2:11:05.880 with him too. I was like, oh God, I got it. 2:11:05.920 --> 2:11:07.960 This guy's got to manage me. So he came in 2:11:08.000 --> 2:11:09.520 and said, okay, I'm gonna sign you and going to 2:11:09.560 --> 2:11:12.280 get you a deal with the Capital and then and 2:11:12.320 --> 2:11:17.280 that's that's the way it happened. He became my father, 2:11:17.440 --> 2:11:21.400 my mentor everything. If I had a business problem, I 2:11:21.440 --> 2:11:24.320 called ed Leffler. If I had a marital problem, I 2:11:24.360 --> 2:11:26.920 called ed Leffler. If I had a legal problem, I 2:11:26.960 --> 2:11:30.520 called ed Leffler and he fucking fixed it. He was 2:11:30.560 --> 2:11:33.320 the king. He was so hot headed though he hid 2:11:33.400 --> 2:11:37.360 be I remember Bill Graham. Eddie Money opened for me 2:11:37.360 --> 2:11:39.680 on a Bill Graham show, and Bill Graham managed Eddie 2:11:39.680 --> 2:11:43.520 Money and conquered and we had all these special lights, 2:11:43.520 --> 2:11:45.840 you know, I from my headline too. We had four 2:11:45.880 --> 2:11:51.040 spotlights on stage operators behind me and Eddie Muddy's opening 2:11:51.080 --> 2:11:53.760 the show and Bill Graham's telling him, hey, get them 2:11:53.800 --> 2:11:55.960 spotlights on telling the lighting guy said you can't do it. 2:11:56.040 --> 2:11:57.879 The left and said, fuck you, those are our spotlights, 2:11:57.920 --> 2:12:00.000 you know, And they got into it, him and Bill Graham. 2:12:00.000 --> 2:12:03.000 I'm gotting a freck and fistfight, all rolling, all over 2:12:03.000 --> 2:12:06.680 the backstage area. And I mean he just was that 2:12:06.760 --> 2:12:09.720 kind of guy. He was not going to say roll over. 2:12:10.160 --> 2:12:13.520 He was tough man, he was awesome. I love that man. 2:12:13.560 --> 2:12:15.960 I'll tell you I still dream about him. I have 2:12:16.120 --> 2:12:19.920 dreams of him. I have dreams of Carter too. Just 2:12:19.960 --> 2:12:21.440 every now and then they come to me and just 2:12:21.560 --> 2:12:23.800 have a nice little dream. It's really cool. 2:12:25.600 --> 2:12:27.240 Just to go back to the beginning for a minute. 2:12:27.800 --> 2:12:32.720 So you're a sharp dressed kid in school. Everybody likes you. 2:12:33.160 --> 2:12:36.680 How did you get into playing music? And the Beatles 2:12:36.720 --> 2:12:39.840 didn't hit till seventy four sixty four when you were seventeen, 2:12:40.320 --> 2:12:41.640 so what was going on there? 2:12:42.680 --> 2:12:42.880 You know? 2:12:43.040 --> 2:12:44.920 The crazy thing is I was more of a Stones 2:12:44.960 --> 2:12:48.520 guy than the Beatles. But I did learn I want 2:12:48.520 --> 2:12:51.840 to hold your hand, my mom. I wanted a guitar. 2:12:52.200 --> 2:12:54.960 I decided I was gonna I could sing. See And 2:12:55.000 --> 2:12:57.160 I had this older friend that was in my brother's age, 2:12:57.160 --> 2:12:59.360 three years older than me. He had a car, he 2:12:59.400 --> 2:13:01.720 had a guitar, an amplifier. He was kind of a 2:13:01.840 --> 2:13:06.800 rich kid, and he liked me because I was I 2:13:06.920 --> 2:13:08.760 was cool. I looked like a rock star and he 2:13:08.760 --> 2:13:12.000 had met me through my brother and he he you know, 2:13:12.280 --> 2:13:13.560 it's just really a funny thing. 2:13:13.800 --> 2:13:15.800 A guy named Ed Mattson, he taught me how to 2:13:15.840 --> 2:13:17.080 play guitar. U. 2:13:17.200 --> 2:13:19.960 He taught me how to drive a car, and he 2:13:20.000 --> 2:13:22.400 would he brought his guitar and ample over my house 2:13:22.440 --> 2:13:25.240 and he said, man, your mom would get you a guitar. 2:13:25.360 --> 2:13:28.000 And I said, my mom, she said, if you learned 2:13:28.040 --> 2:13:30.240 how to play never on Sunday, I'll get one from 2:13:30.240 --> 2:13:31.040 the series catalog. 2:13:31.120 --> 2:13:33.680 It was thirty nine ninety five, you know that one 2:13:33.680 --> 2:13:34.640 in the case. I bought it. 2:13:34.680 --> 2:13:38.120 I bought one recently for eighteen hundred fucking dollars right 2:13:38.560 --> 2:13:40.000 because I had to have it. 2:13:41.320 --> 2:13:42.760 But and I learned how to play it. 2:13:42.800 --> 2:13:44.400 My mom bought me his guitar, and him and I 2:13:44.440 --> 2:13:46.280 started a band, just the two of us, and we'd 2:13:46.320 --> 2:13:49.360 go play parties, you know with you know, one of 2:13:49.400 --> 2:13:52.360 my girlfriends or something, have a birthday part in her garage. 2:13:52.400 --> 2:13:54.560 And I'd say, me and my my well, my band 2:13:54.560 --> 2:13:57.480 will play. And we played instrumentals. We played Dick Dale 2:13:58.120 --> 2:14:01.240 and we played you know, soft wipe out and songs 2:14:01.280 --> 2:14:03.640 like that without a drummer. And I want to hold 2:14:03.680 --> 2:14:06.480 your Hand, I think was the first Beatles song. And 2:14:06.520 --> 2:14:09.080 then when the Stones record came out, we fucking learned 2:14:09.080 --> 2:14:12.680 the whole Stones record. But I could sing, so, you know, 2:14:12.880 --> 2:14:14.600 I decided I was going to be a singer because 2:14:14.600 --> 2:14:16.600 I'd be hanging around with my buddies in the car 2:14:17.160 --> 2:14:20.120 and and you know, I'd start singing any song came 2:14:20.120 --> 2:14:21.680 on the radio. I could sing it. I knew the 2:14:21.800 --> 2:14:23.960 lyrics and I could sing the melody. And they and 2:14:24.000 --> 2:14:25.440 they used to get pissed out. I say, how do 2:14:25.480 --> 2:14:27.840 you know all these fucking songs? I'm saying, I just 2:14:27.920 --> 2:14:29.440 know them, you know, and I still do. I never 2:14:29.560 --> 2:14:32.840 used teleprompter, And so he goes, oh yeah, they'd shut 2:14:32.840 --> 2:14:36.480 the radio off, okay, sing Satisfaction by the Stones, and 2:14:36.840 --> 2:14:39.760 you know, I'd blow it out man, you know, acapella, 2:14:40.160 --> 2:14:42.280 and then they'd have contests and'd be like trying to 2:14:42.320 --> 2:14:45.440 stump Sammy. Man. I was like rain Man. So I 2:14:45.440 --> 2:14:46.880 could sing. So everybody thought I was going to be 2:14:46.880 --> 2:14:49.000 a rock stars. So I started telling people rockstar winn 2:14:49.000 --> 2:14:50.920 at words. I start telling people I'm gonna be you 2:14:50.960 --> 2:14:53.000 know things, I'm gonna be like Mick Jagger, you know, 2:14:53.040 --> 2:14:56.240 it'd be like Elvis, and everybody believed me around town. 2:14:56.280 --> 2:14:58.400 I was one of those guys. I started dressing apart, 2:14:58.560 --> 2:15:01.480 so they said Mattson guy. He thought I was really cool. 2:15:01.520 --> 2:15:02.760 He said, yeah, this guy's got it. 2:15:02.760 --> 2:15:02.920 Man. 2:15:02.960 --> 2:15:05.160 I started a band with him. He's like and so 2:15:05.560 --> 2:15:07.960 because he was a really good musician. He could play anything. 2:15:08.080 --> 2:15:11.720 He's really smart guy. So he took me to see 2:15:11.760 --> 2:15:16.120 Donovan first American parents, at a place called The Trip 2:15:16.200 --> 2:15:16.560 in La. 2:15:16.640 --> 2:15:19.120 Do you remember the Trip? I don't know if you know. 2:15:19.160 --> 2:15:20.960 Before I know the Trip, but I didn't live in 2:15:21.040 --> 2:15:21.480 La then. 2:15:21.640 --> 2:15:25.840 So Donovan was playing there by himself, and it was 2:15:25.880 --> 2:15:27.880 the most magical thing I've ever seen in my life. 2:15:27.920 --> 2:15:29.320 I was too young to get in and got a 2:15:29.320 --> 2:15:31.800 fake id ed could get in. He was eighteen. I wasn't. 2:15:32.240 --> 2:15:36.280 I was. I guess I was fifteen if he was eighteen. 2:15:36.440 --> 2:15:40.320 But anyway, we got in and Donovan sitting there in 2:15:40.360 --> 2:15:45.200 a stool and velvet and lace, big oh, just fucking 2:15:45.280 --> 2:15:48.520 velvet and lace and his hair and the way he 2:15:48.640 --> 2:15:51.800 had a you know, fucking poofed up like Bob Dellan. 2:15:51.880 --> 2:15:54.480 But he was gorgeous. He was like an angel. 2:15:54.680 --> 2:15:56.720 And he's setting on a stool with acoustic guitar with 2:15:56.800 --> 2:15:59.680 a spotlight on him, and it was the most magical 2:15:59.800 --> 2:16:02.960 thing I'd ever seen in my life. I thought, this 2:16:03.000 --> 2:16:06.160 guy looks like God, he looks like an angels Jesus. 2:16:05.960 --> 2:16:06.160 You know. 2:16:06.640 --> 2:16:10.360 And he was just mesmerizing. And then he took a 2:16:10.400 --> 2:16:12.440 break and he came back with a band. He played 2:16:12.480 --> 2:16:15.400 Sunshine Superman, and I was fucking done. 2:16:15.440 --> 2:16:17.320 That was it. I was. I wanted to be Donovan. 2:16:17.440 --> 2:16:20.040 If you know, I've recorded Donovan, two Donovan songs on 2:16:20.080 --> 2:16:23.160 my records. Early Carter introduced me to him finally one 2:16:23.280 --> 2:16:27.440 day and just a huge Donovan fan. Over Dylan Stones, 2:16:27.440 --> 2:16:31.960 over beetles Ford, over Chevy, you know, but you know 2:16:32.360 --> 2:16:37.080 the but so that kind of set me on my 2:16:37.200 --> 2:16:40.600 path and and s Ed Matson guy really coached me along. 2:16:40.680 --> 2:16:42.840 He turned me on to the Donovant I mean little 2:16:43.480 --> 2:16:45.120 He turned me on too, Bob Dylan then and he 2:16:45.200 --> 2:16:47.640 turned me on to you know, the Stones of course, 2:16:47.640 --> 2:16:49.160 but I had already seen the Stones. Him and I 2:16:49.200 --> 2:16:53.080 went to see their first America performance. George Babcock brought 2:16:53.160 --> 2:16:55.279 him to the Swing auditorium and Semragi and we snuck 2:16:55.280 --> 2:16:56.680 in and saw the Stones. 2:16:56.800 --> 2:16:58.480 I said, I want to be micking Keith together. 2:16:58.600 --> 2:17:01.280 Then I then I saw Creams performance at the Whiskey 2:17:01.640 --> 2:17:03.520 and then I said, I want to be I want 2:17:03.560 --> 2:17:08.640 to be Eric Clapton, and you know, I just jumped around. 2:17:08.640 --> 2:17:12.160 But that's in the beginning. I was like a chameleon, man, 2:17:12.200 --> 2:17:16.360 I could. I could really absorb things from these rock 2:17:16.400 --> 2:17:18.959 stars people that I would see. And then I became 2:17:19.000 --> 2:17:21.040 a Rod Stewart fanatic too for a long time, and 2:17:21.120 --> 2:17:23.879 that's when I really started performing more. I started, you know, 2:17:23.959 --> 2:17:26.360 running around on stage and saying goofy things and throwing 2:17:26.360 --> 2:17:29.240 a party. Rod in the Face's best party on the 2:17:29.280 --> 2:17:32.800 planet at that time. I think Paul Rogers, those kind 2:17:32.800 --> 2:17:36.240 of guys really all influenced me. Gary Broker from Proc o'harum, 2:17:36.320 --> 2:17:39.360 I still think one of the greatest singers ever. He 2:17:39.400 --> 2:17:41.960 could just keep going higher and you go, fuck you 2:17:42.000 --> 2:17:44.279 take away the higher. And I learned how to sing, 2:17:44.360 --> 2:17:46.520 you know, the way I sing dreams and those songs 2:17:46.560 --> 2:17:49.000 that way, or just go hire and hire. I learned 2:17:49.000 --> 2:17:50.520 how to do that from him. And I don't know 2:17:50.560 --> 2:17:53.200 how I did it, but I didn't learn anything. I 2:17:53.280 --> 2:17:57.280 just pushed myself to do it, you know. But I'm 2:17:57.800 --> 2:18:00.440 otis Redding. All those people have really influenced and they 2:18:00.480 --> 2:18:04.720 still do I'm a sponge A boy always said that 2:18:04.760 --> 2:18:07.160 about himself, you know, people said, don't ever wear a 2:18:07.160 --> 2:18:10.880 new pair of shoes around boy Mick Jagger hurting quotes. 2:18:11.240 --> 2:18:15.320 He said he'll have them the next day. I'm a 2:18:15.320 --> 2:18:15.800 little bit. 2:18:15.760 --> 2:18:22.440 Like, okay, switching gears. Just back to No. You were 2:18:22.480 --> 2:18:27.320 talking about guy, you were talking about trust, etc. We 2:18:27.440 --> 2:18:30.960 have a very divided country. You're one of the few 2:18:31.000 --> 2:18:34.960 people who can appeal to both sides. Is there any hope? 2:18:35.360 --> 2:18:38.200 And if you could snap your fingers, what would you 2:18:38.240 --> 2:18:39.320 do to bring us together? 2:18:40.800 --> 2:18:41.240 Wow? 2:18:41.480 --> 2:18:44.960 If I knew how to do that, Bob, I would 2:18:45.120 --> 2:18:49.560 run for president. If I were in my sixties, even 2:18:49.680 --> 2:18:52.640 right now, I would run for fucking president. And I'm 2:18:52.680 --> 2:18:56.760 dead serious, and only agenda I would have. I would 2:18:56.840 --> 2:19:00.400 have one fucking agenda, and that would be to unite 2:19:00.400 --> 2:19:02.959 this country. How I would do that, I'm not sure, 2:19:03.080 --> 2:19:06.560 but that would be my only agenda. I'd say, don't 2:19:06.600 --> 2:19:09.160 talk to me about foreign policy, none of that right now, 2:19:09.400 --> 2:19:13.879 because this country needs to be at least seventy thirty, 2:19:14.440 --> 2:19:19.000 you know, get over this fifty to fifty divide. If 2:19:19.040 --> 2:19:22.279 we could get eighty percent of the people behind the president, 2:19:22.360 --> 2:19:26.200 and we could say we're united. Okay, this country united 2:19:26.560 --> 2:19:29.680 can change the world. We could there would we would 2:19:29.720 --> 2:19:32.560 cure the homeless situation, which is a big problem which 2:19:32.560 --> 2:19:34.480 I would want to cure. I would want to cure 2:19:34.560 --> 2:19:37.720 hunger and crime in this country. And but if we 2:19:37.720 --> 2:19:40.600 were united, we would do it together. 2:19:40.840 --> 2:19:42.039 See if we. 2:19:42.040 --> 2:19:45.640 Could reunite this country, the United States of America. I 2:19:45.680 --> 2:19:47.960 want to My platform would be I want to get 2:19:48.080 --> 2:19:49.960 rid of red and I want to get rid of blue. 2:19:50.080 --> 2:19:52.280 Let's be the purple country. And I know it's nothing 2:19:52.320 --> 2:19:55.440 to do with Prince Purple. Red and blue make purple. 2:19:55.680 --> 2:19:58.280 Let's unite and get rid of this big divide. It 2:19:58.320 --> 2:20:01.240 breaks my heart to see what's happening in this country. 2:20:01.400 --> 2:20:04.520 And as long as the people that are running this 2:20:04.600 --> 2:20:07.360 country are running it the way they are and trying 2:20:07.360 --> 2:20:11.720 to squash the other side. You know, it's like the 2:20:11.840 --> 2:20:13.720 right is trying to kill the left. The left is 2:20:13.720 --> 2:20:16.240 trying to kill the right. You know, they're throwing a president, 2:20:16.320 --> 2:20:18.680 a guy that was president, you know, indicting him, trying 2:20:18.720 --> 2:20:20.600 to get him in prison so he can't run again. 2:20:20.720 --> 2:20:24.039 I mean, it's so dirty. Politics have always been dirty, 2:20:24.320 --> 2:20:26.560 but the way that each side is treating each other 2:20:26.640 --> 2:20:28.800 it's just never going to stop the divide. We've got 2:20:28.800 --> 2:20:31.520 to stop that shit. And I would be independent, and 2:20:31.560 --> 2:20:34.119 I would I would just say I'm running for the purple. 2:20:34.440 --> 2:20:39.080 Just make this country purple, and and just stop. That's 2:20:39.800 --> 2:20:42.800 you don't know how how it breaks my heart because 2:20:42.840 --> 2:20:45.760 I'm too old, you know, I can't run. 2:20:47.720 --> 2:20:50.199 Okay. And do you own any electric cars? 2:20:50.959 --> 2:20:51.199 Yes? 2:20:51.600 --> 2:20:55.240 Three, both both two of them are in my wife's 2:20:55.320 --> 2:21:00.400 name and ones on ones in both our names. Listen, 2:21:00.400 --> 2:21:02.360 you can only drive one car at a time. I 2:21:02.400 --> 2:21:03.720 got a bunch of cuts and I said, will you 2:21:03.720 --> 2:21:08.400 own all those gas customers, all those smug making deep cars. 2:21:08.400 --> 2:21:10.480 I said, no, yeah, I own them, but I only 2:21:10.520 --> 2:21:12.959 drive one at a time. I'm not out there driving 2:21:12.959 --> 2:21:15.920 twelve cars and once fucking the environment, you know. 2:21:16.320 --> 2:21:17.760 So that's my excuse. 2:21:17.800 --> 2:21:21.360 But yeah, we have a Tesla and it's our second one, 2:21:21.400 --> 2:21:26.560 and we have an Audi or eight or whatever it is, 2:21:26.720 --> 2:21:32.879 eight hundred full electric. And I'm i gotta tell you, 2:21:33.120 --> 2:21:37.039 I give, I give. Once you've driven and gotten used 2:21:37.080 --> 2:21:39.600 to an electric car, it's the only way to go. 2:21:40.000 --> 2:21:42.640 It's so unbelievable. You stop looking at gas stations, you 2:21:42.720 --> 2:21:45.240 stop looking at you know you're going, you know, you 2:21:45.320 --> 2:21:47.400 don't have to take it in and get the oil change. 2:21:47.440 --> 2:21:49.960 It's like, it's fucking brilliant. 2:21:50.080 --> 2:21:53.039 And if the electric company doesn't stick us up so 2:21:53.200 --> 2:21:57.400 bad that electricity we can't afford electric cars the way 2:21:57.400 --> 2:22:00.280 they've done with gas, then that would be the worst 2:22:00.320 --> 2:22:00.960 thing that could happen. 2:22:01.040 --> 2:22:02.760 But it's probably gonna happen. 2:22:02.959 --> 2:22:05.640 But we put electric solar panels in the house, put 2:22:05.680 --> 2:22:08.560 the electric plug in, and we basically drive for free. 2:22:08.760 --> 2:22:10.920 And I'm telling you right now, you can't beat that. 2:22:11.280 --> 2:22:13.840 And our man. 2:22:15.520 --> 2:22:20.800 Musk has done a brilliant job with putting charging devices 2:22:20.840 --> 2:22:23.160 around and places where you can go charge your cars, 2:22:23.320 --> 2:22:25.600 so it's no longer like, well, I can't go anywhere 2:22:25.600 --> 2:22:27.560 on a long trip. You know, yeah you can. If 2:22:27.640 --> 2:22:31.360 you can do, it's the future, There's no question about it. 2:22:31.360 --> 2:22:34.600 I would give up and I'd put my cars. I'd 2:22:34.600 --> 2:22:36.960 probably have to build a museum though, so I could 2:22:36.959 --> 2:22:38.400 put my cars in, so I could go look at 2:22:38.440 --> 2:22:40.440 them and sit in and put a big movie theater. 2:22:40.640 --> 2:22:44.760 I always said, if I can't drive my Ferraris and 2:22:44.760 --> 2:22:48.240 my really exotic cars and they're too valuable or the 2:22:48.879 --> 2:22:51.400 government won't let me drive them, I'll get myself a 2:22:51.440 --> 2:22:55.039 really cool museum. I'll put a big giant screen up 2:22:55.080 --> 2:22:58.360 in there, and I'll go sit in them and eat 2:22:58.360 --> 2:22:59.520 popcorn and watch movies. 2:23:03.240 --> 2:23:05.680 I'm that note, Sammy. I think we're gonna wrap it up. 2:23:05.720 --> 2:23:08.080 I could talk to you for all all day. I mean, 2:23:08.640 --> 2:23:12.240 it's easy to see why you're successful. Is there anybody 2:23:12.280 --> 2:23:13.400 you don't get along with? 2:23:16.400 --> 2:23:24.000 Alex van Halen right and Diamond Dave, we don't seem 2:23:24.000 --> 2:23:25.720 to get along. I can get along with him, but 2:23:25.760 --> 2:23:26.600 he can't get along with me. 2:23:26.640 --> 2:23:27.400 I don't know what it is. 2:23:30.720 --> 2:23:32.560 I hope to bury the hatchet with Alan, if there 2:23:32.600 --> 2:23:34.240 is a hatchet to bury it, and I buried it, 2:23:34.280 --> 2:23:37.600 and so Alan I can do it too. I hate enemies. 2:23:37.920 --> 2:23:40.240 I don't go through life making enemies. It's not my game. 2:23:41.120 --> 2:23:44.280 I'll bend over backwards. Y's guilty, wrong, I'm sorry. I 2:23:44.320 --> 2:23:46.879 will say I'm sorry so fast you wouldn't believe it. 2:23:46.959 --> 2:23:49.480 So yeah, I just want to see this country come together. 2:23:49.520 --> 2:23:54.080 We'll leave it on that and yes, that's where my 2:23:54.120 --> 2:23:54.680 heart's at. 2:23:55.760 --> 2:23:59.760 On that note, we'll leave it till next time. This 2:23:59.840 --> 2:24:01.160 is Bob left set 2:24:22.760 --> 2:24:22.800 S