1 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: I would get there, you know early Nate rolls in 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: about and I gotta work. I gotta I got work 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: to do. I got work to it. Well, we'll make 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: I've been here for for two and a half hours, 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: so I've been getting work done while you've been asleep. 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: I actually do like the scenario. You know, it's crazy 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: of them going on the road, and just to me, 8 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: that seems when when they play their best day all 9 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: you know, it's against the world, that seems to be 10 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: what brings out the Bestival's team. Now the Ravens have 11 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: their back up against the wall. People think they sucked 12 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: all that stuff. I think that that that blas into 13 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: their hands a little bit. Welcome into the lounge. You know, 14 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: it's been three straight losses now and it feels like 15 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: you go through a three game skin in the NFL, 16 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: it feels like an eternity. Honestly, have we won a 17 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: game since twenty nineteen? I can't remember. Well, there's there's 18 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: the three games. There's there's the three game skid, and 19 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: that's obviously a huge piece of it. But beyond the 20 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: game skid, you also have you know, the COVID breakout, 21 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: the delay of the case. There was the bye week 22 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: that was also worked in there. So the Ravens have 23 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: won one game in the last six weeks, and that 24 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: was a crazy colt I've aged, I've aged six years 25 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: right now. I looked like our guy Clifton Brown. Right now, 26 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: I'm trying to say, what are you trying to say? 27 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: That's a good segue to say, Clifton Brown is on 28 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 1: the pod with us introduction. That's your that's your introduction. 29 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: I usually don't get instolid until after I'm introduced. So 30 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: you guys are really on the game today. Uh, well, 31 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: it's a salty lounge today, exactly. See. You know, I 32 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: think Garrett, then you mentioned in the last episode where 33 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: you missed you miss coming in on the Mondays, in 34 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: this case Thursdays. Uh, and and just having the post 35 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: game breakdown with the three of us. So that's what 36 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: we're trying to recreate here today. Yeah. Yeah, I mean 37 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: we've talked about it before, but we usually spend the 38 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: first basically from the time we walk in the building 39 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: until lunch. It's the recap. It's the recap. There's not 40 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: what's getting done. I have to edit late for work, 41 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: So generally Gary's still flapping his gums, I have to 42 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: be shut up, shut up. I gotta I gotta do this. 43 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: I gotta work. I gotta focus for a second and 44 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: then then we can keep going. Well, you know, here's 45 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: the difference. Just you know, this is when we used 46 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: to work in the building. I would get there, you 47 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: know early, Nate rolls in about and I gotta work. 48 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: I gotta I got work to do. I got work too. Well, 49 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: we'll make I've been here for for two and a 50 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: half hours, so I've been getting work done while you've 51 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: been asleep. So thanks a lot also for just taking 52 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: me off this morning. You know, I wake up, I 53 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: go to bed, salty about the rest. I wake up. 54 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: Pull up Twitter, there's your tweet about the false start 55 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: on the on the third down completion that the Steelers 56 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: had should have been flagged called back for a false start. 57 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: So just just taking me off first thing in the 58 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: morning after I finally settled down. So thanks a lot 59 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: for that. Can we let's let's that's a good place 60 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: to start. You know, we want to break down this 61 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: game and also look forward. Um, but I always struggle 62 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: with how much to put on the refs in any 63 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: game because I'm a big ref complainer guy, Well, everyone 64 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: loves to complain about the refs. Everybody complains by the refs, 65 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: But in terms of like how much it really impacted 66 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: things and all that, I think that last night's game 67 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: was the rest played a significant role in why the 68 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: Ravens lost, and I the end of the half, that 69 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: false start that should have been called on third and 70 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: six also now is third and eleven. They probably don't 71 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: get it, although maybe they completed another ridiculous past who knows. 72 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: I mean, that was a great play and at the 73 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: end of the day, like look, Chuck Clark had an 74 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: opportunity to knock it down. Luke Wilson had an opportunity 75 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: to catch that football. So it's not like the refs 76 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: are a hundred percent to blame. But I may be 77 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: giving giving him some cliff What do you give them? Well, 78 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: here's here's what really bothered me about the goal line 79 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: situation is you suppose to begin looking for that in situation. 80 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: So it always bothers being when refs blow a call 81 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: that they should be anticipating anyway. I mean, what else 82 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: were the sal was opposed to try and like get 83 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: up quickly. I mean, of course they're going to try 84 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: and do that, so when they don't do it, you 85 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: throw the flag. I just don't get in that situation 86 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: why flag wasn't wrong. Yeah. Well, and and this is 87 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: two times this year against the Steelers. I mean last 88 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: the earlier game this season, they should have put more 89 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: time on the clock on the Ravens final drive. And 90 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 1: then there's the hit on Willie Snee in the end 91 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: zone too. So you're like, guy, what is going on here? 92 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: How bad do you want the Steelers to go undefeated? Like? 93 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: And I say that facetiously, I don't actually think that, 94 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: like whatever, some people take it to another level with 95 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: the refs, that that's a conspiracy theory and all that. 96 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: I don't buy that for a second. I don't think 97 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: the NFL has evolved none of that stuff, right, But 98 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: I do think so. I think the refs have done 99 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: a crappy job in both games against the Steelers this year. 100 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: And and let's be honest, Like like I said, I 101 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: like complaining about the rest, I do it all the time, 102 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 1: but this year it seems like it's gone above and 103 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: beyond in key moments, big games and just and just 104 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 1: over the course of the season. I mean, what's have 105 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: opponents been called for a holding penalty against US all year. 106 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: I think it's like they haven't had a defensive past 107 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: interference or something crazy. Like the Ravens are getting called 108 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: for a lot of penalties this year among the league leaders, 109 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: and their opponents are being called for the fewest, So 110 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: like at some point, like you would think the law 111 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: of averages, but nope, Ravens keep coming up on the 112 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: short end of the stick when it comes to the referee. Yeah, 113 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: I thought that that the game against the Steelers really 114 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: an illustrated Two points of that one is the miss calls, 115 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: so the miscall at the end of half, the miscall 116 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: on the false start on that third and six. Then 117 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 1: there's the the over calls on the Ravens multiple holdings, 118 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: four holdings called, two against d J. Fluker, one against 119 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: Anthony Levine, and then I think there was one other 120 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: one that was mixed in there that I can't remember. 121 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm trying to black out the game. But but the 122 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: Levine one seemed legit, but a couple of the others 123 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: seems soft on Fluker, which took away nice place. So 124 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: it's like, not only are you missing key penalties or 125 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: things that should be a false start. You're also penalizing 126 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: the Ravens at times where they shouldn't be penalized. And 127 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: then there's also like then there's a fifty which like 128 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: an example of that that I think of the last 129 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: time the Ravens played the Steelers, and that's the Willie 130 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:21,239 Speaker 1: Sneed gets decapitated in the end zone, no flag play. Okay, 131 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: you know, I think that could have gone either way. 132 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: But on any of them that are at fifty there, 133 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: none of them are going in the Ravens direction this year. Yeah, completely, 134 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: I completely agree. It just honestly, it just feels like 135 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: a bad lucky year. And I'm not saying that's like 136 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: as in, all right, just throwing the towel it's not 137 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: our year kind of way, But up to this point, 138 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: everything that seems like it can go against the Ravens 139 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: does go against the Ravens. And then, yeah, I gets 140 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: a big picture of that too. Is I mean, when 141 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: you think about the Ravens season now at six and five, 142 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: to me, that's like the words they could possibly be 143 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: considering I had a flame. You know, usually you're like 144 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: you eight and three, well we could be you know, 145 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: eleven and two, we could be you know, six and 146 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: five to me, like they're at the low end. They've 147 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: gotten the least out of their wins, out of their performances. Um, 148 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: they're They're not a six and five team to me, 149 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: but that's what their record is. And now they've got 150 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: to try and dig out all. Yeah. And the thing 151 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: about the game against the Steelers that was just frustrating 152 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: is you you go into it and I don't know 153 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: about you guys, but didn't have a lot of confidence 154 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: considering all that the Ravens went through twenty plus guys 155 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: on cover over the course of the week, No Lamar Jackson, 156 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: all these Pro Bowlers were missing having practiced in two weeks. 157 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: It wasn't exactly an ideal scenario to go play the 158 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: best team in the NFL on the road. So but 159 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, it's close. The best team 160 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: in the NFL, the only I still I still think 161 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: the Chiefs are the best team. Yeah, that's probably what 162 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: you're saying, the only the only team in the NFL. Um, 163 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: And it wasn't an ideal situation. And then but also 164 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: it's close, and then you talked yourself into it. And 165 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: I'm fit sitting here thinking give trace one more time, baby, 166 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: give them one more shot, Give a one more shot. 167 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: He's gonna drive down the field again. I'm for whatever reason, 168 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: I'm more more upset and angry and disappointed in this 169 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: game than some of the others this year. This one 170 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: really just the refs, the situations, the fact that they 171 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: shouldn't have been in it, and then they were in 172 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: it then get the ball back at the end. I 173 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: would have loved to see what Trace could have done 174 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: in that situation. Everything about it just makes me angry. Yeah, 175 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't as angry as you were last night. 176 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 1: I think I was just like, wow, we're giving him 177 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: a game, Like, you know, it should have been up 178 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: at halftime. And but I guess I went in saying, 179 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: all right, this is gonna be really really tough to 180 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: win now, Like you said, when you're still in it 181 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: and you have a chance to pull off such an upset, 182 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: it's disappointing. But I wasn't as angry as you were. 183 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: I was more angry at the first Pittsburgh loss. I 184 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: just you know, the turnovers just killed them. Like the 185 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: Ravens dominated that game. The Ravens should have won that 186 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: game hands down. But then you just get these turnovers 187 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: on top of bad refereeing. The New England game was, Oh, 188 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: that was so infuriating because once again the Patriots aren't 189 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: a good team this year. The Ravens should have won 190 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 1: that game, but you know, every time the offense stepped 191 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: on the field, there here comes the rain. Just just 192 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's uncanny. I mean, mother Nature didn't 193 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: want the Ravens to win that game, just as much 194 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: as Bill Belichick didn't want the Ravens to win that game. 195 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: So it's just yeah, some of those and then of 196 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: course tennessee, oh, why are we doing this to ourselves? 197 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: Uh well, here we're gonna take a quick break because 198 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: Crown Royal wants to remind you to take a water 199 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: break and moderate your drinking. Thank you guys, to take 200 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: a water break after at the end of that game 201 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: last night, Stay hydrated, Stay royal, Crown Royal Canadian whiskey. 202 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: All right, So, cliff Um, you said that the team 203 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: is basically low end of where they could be. Right now, 204 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: I guess the good news is you got a chance 205 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: to write the ship here down the stretch. And like 206 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: when we go back to April and the schedule comes 207 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: out and you're looking at it and you're doing the 208 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: whole thing. You look at the how the season ends up. 209 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: You've got the Giants, You've got the Cowboys this week, 210 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: you've got the Bengals, still got the Jags. You're feeling 211 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: like the team can rattle off some wins here. What 212 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: is your feeling about the rest of the way. Yeah, 213 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any reason not to field that way. 214 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: It usually doesn't go this much by script. I mean, 215 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: we looked at the schedule, like you said, we knew 216 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: this last game with the Steelers even before the season 217 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: looked like that was gonna end their toughest stretch of 218 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: the season. And it's worked out that way. It hasn't 219 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: worked out the way the Ravens wanting. You're gonna over 220 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: the last five games with them having you know, too 221 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: many losses to the point now where they're gonna have 222 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: to hustle to get in the playoffs. But when you 223 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: look at those teams that they have left on the schedule, 224 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: there's no reason to think that they can't turn things around. Obviously, 225 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: you feel like a team has already been through a 226 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: lot and should be getting guys back so that will 227 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: obviously help. And now there is a sense of urgency. 228 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: I mean, the Ravens know that they have to win 229 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: these games. I mean, so I expect them to play 230 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: well down the stretch. There were a lot of things 231 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: alike how that Steelers lost, as frustrating as it was. 232 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: And yeah, I do expect that they're going to be okay. 233 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: But the only thing that worries me is a the 234 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: margin for error is going and be This year is 235 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: so crazy that just you just don't know what could 236 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: happen from week to week. So I'm a little I'm 237 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: a little worried about that, but I think they'll be okay. Yeah, 238 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 1: I think what concerns me is, you know, you obviously 239 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: look at it and you look at the remaining teams 240 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: in the schedule and what their records are and and 241 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: where they even rank. You know, Football Outsiders is a 242 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: good job of kind of taking the record out of 243 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: it and saying, how good are these teams? Right? Dallas 244 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 1: is number twenty eight in the league out of two, 245 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:59,599 Speaker 1: Cleveland is twenty three, Jacksonville's twenty nine. Giants are Cincinnati's 246 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: thirty one. Okay, so you're just looking at how strong 247 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: these teams are, and they're all in the bottom quarter 248 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: of the league, if not lower than that. I don't 249 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: have I'm not so good at math um. But so 250 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: like you look at that and you're like, yeah, sure, 251 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 1: the Ravens have a chance to just run the table. Here, 252 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: win five street, you finish eleven and five, you're looking 253 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: really good. Right then you roll into the playoffs. Hot. 254 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: It's a different narrative than the past couple of years. Hey, 255 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: maybe you can flip the script, right, but you still 256 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: have to win these games. That's the thing, right, Like, 257 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: like right now, you just can't chalk up a win 258 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: against the sub five team when you're a team like 259 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: the Ravens. That yeah, of course there are a better 260 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: team than all these teams. But the Ravens have some 261 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: works too, and they already lost the Patriots, who are 262 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: a sub five hundred team that they should have beaten. 263 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: So it's not like you can't just say, oh, yeah, 264 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: schedules soft, we're gonna cruise in. Like you say, Cliff, 265 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: the margin for air is gone, right you still I 266 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: think are gonna have potentially players missing against the Cowboys 267 00:12:58,080 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 1: because of the COVID situation. It's not like you're back 268 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: a full strength and the Ravens have some warts this year. 269 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: So do I feel good about it? Do I feel 270 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: like the Ravens can get hot? Absolutely, But like let's 271 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: not all sit here and pretend like, all right, it's 272 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: it's totally fine, totally fine. They're gonna there. They We're 273 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: still gonna make the playoffs. It's all good, you know 274 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: what I mean? Like I'm still concerned. Yeah, well, I 275 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: think there's there's two things there. In my mind. One 276 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: is that if the Ravens can't win i don't know, 277 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: for these next five games to get to ten and six, 278 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: then they're not a good enough team to be in 279 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Like that's just the reality of it. So, 280 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: like I agree with you. You can't, like the team 281 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: can't sit here and say, all right, well it's done. 282 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: That's a win against Dallas, that's a win against Jacksonville. 283 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: All right, sign us up. Who are we play in 284 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: the first round? Like, certainly the players can't do that, 285 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: but I think it's fair to look at it and 286 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: say I agree, And if they don't win them, then 287 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: they're not a good enough team. They shouldn't be there 288 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: that you know, they're just not and so I think 289 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: that that is a component. The other thing that complicates 290 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: matters this year is just the quality of the a 291 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: f C. Like who had the in your mind, who 292 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: had the Raiders as a team that we're gonna be 293 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: The Ravens are gonna be competing for a playoff spot 294 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,719 Speaker 1: with who had the Browns at eight and three at 295 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: this point? Who had the Bills? Are Bills eight and three? Also? Um? 296 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: You know, like you look at it. You got the Bills, 297 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: You've got the Raiders, Um, you got Raiders. Just got 298 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: smoked by the Falcons, I know. But and the Dolphins 299 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: and Raiders. What it's gonna come down to is, I 300 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: think two teams from the a f C South are 301 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: going to get in, right, Titans and Colts. Let's say 302 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: culture Okay, then we're looking at at least two teams, 303 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: hopefully three teams potentially from the f C North. Right now, 304 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: the Ravens are two games behind the Browns but have 305 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: the tiebreaker and get to play him again. So let's 306 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: just say three teams from the f C North getting 307 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: Really it's it's a competition between the Ravens, the Dolphins, 308 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: and I think the Dolphs and the and the and 309 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: the Dolphins are kind of they've lost what two straight? 310 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, been one that the Dolphins are the 311 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: other team that I Again, I don't think anyone would 312 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: have really bought it if you had said the Ravens 313 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: are going to be scrapping for a playoff spot with 314 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: the Raiders and the Colts and the Dolphins this year. Well, sorry, 315 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: the Dolphins are coming off a three win over the Jets, 316 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: but they lost to the Broncos the week before. Here's 317 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: the rest of their schedules Bengals, Chiefs, Patriots, Raiders, Bills. 318 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: So the Dolphins got a tough stretch the wet the 319 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: rest of the way after this Bengals game. I mean, 320 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: the the Ravens have to get to ten wins for sure, 321 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: and ten might not do it. Ten might not do 322 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: it this year. So even in an expanded playoff field, 323 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: yeah it might not, just given the quality of the 324 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: a f C. But here's the thing. Here, here is 325 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: the thing, and this is why I am still optimistic. 326 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: Are you If the Ravens see, if they rattle off 327 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: the next five, it's nice and easy, just like makes 328 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: it nice and easy, sun deal. Um, if you had 329 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: ale off these next five and you face in the 330 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: first round the Steelers or the Titans. Bring it, bring it? Right? 331 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: Do you either of you feel like that's an L 332 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: Because I feel like that's a win. I thought. I 333 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: honestly said, I was on the record that it was 334 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: l against the Titans come followed by a Dubs knocking 335 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: off the undefeated Steelers. I was feeling a win. And 336 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: then COVID nineteen said no, no, you're not feeling a 337 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: win anymore. Right, But I I think if the Ravens 338 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: were at full strength, that's a win. I really do. 339 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: And and the way this defense is playing, I mean, 340 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: the way they played against the Steelers was remarkable. The 341 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: way this defense is playing it just I think the 342 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: offense was starting to find some rhythm. I think they 343 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: can find it down the stretch here. So no, I 344 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: think I think if the if the Ravens do make 345 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: the playoffs, and in part because they will have to 346 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: get on a role in order to do so, that 347 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: they could they could be a very tough out in 348 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: the playoffs. What do you think? Yeah, I don't mind 349 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: the Ravens going on the road either for a playoff game. 350 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: I don't mind, right, And if they can just get 351 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: that one playoff victimy and get that out the way, 352 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 1: then I think they would return to being how they 353 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: used to be, like a team nobody wanted to face 354 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. That's the way the Ravens GN Hardball's 355 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: teams were, you know, during his first five years. No 356 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: one wanted to see them in the playoffs. And I 357 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: think they would return to that if they could get 358 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: that first playoff win. And I actually do like the scenario. 359 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy of them going on the road. 360 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: Just to me, that seems to when be when they 361 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: play their best, they all, you know, it's against the world. 362 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: That seems to be what brings out the best in 363 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: this team. Well that's a scenario that they haven't been 364 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: in really all year long, right. I do think that 365 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: the Ravens going into this year, everybody's saying, you know, 366 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 1: they're Super Bowl favorites. You know, it's them and the Chiefs. 367 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: Like they weren't an underdog all year according to Vegas 368 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: until the Steelers game when they had to call up 369 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: ten players from the practice squad day of the game. So, like, 370 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: I mean, they weren't even an underdog when they faced 371 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: the defending Super Bowl champion Chiefs. They were a favorite 372 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: in that game. I think the Ravens play better. And 373 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: this is the case for a lot of teams. They 374 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: like that chip on their shoulder. They like being the underdogs, 375 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 1: they like having to prove themselves and all that stuff 376 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: as opposed to being the team with the target on 377 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: their backs. Now the Ravens have their back up against 378 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: the wall. People think they suck all that stuff. I 379 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: think that that that plays into their hands a little bit. 380 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: I think another component of that is I think John 381 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: Harbor was a good wartime general and and when things 382 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: are going poorly, I mean, I think you saw it 383 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: this week. Um, the Ravens had no business being in 384 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,719 Speaker 1: that game the way they were last night. They just 385 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: didn't given all the players who were out, given the 386 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: fact they didn't practice, and they played really tough, really 387 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: well in a really competitive game. And I think that 388 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: that's been the case for harbor Rows teams so many 389 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: times times over the course of his career. And when 390 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: they're in a situation where they're down and out and 391 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: it looks like you again, backs against the wall, whatever 392 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: whatever cliche you want to throw out there, they tend 393 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: to come out fighting and play. I think some of 394 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: their best, most inspired, most competitive football. And I love 395 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: the tone after the game last night. I really did. 396 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: I just felt like they there was not a dejected 397 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: tone after that game. It was one of, look, we 398 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: got five games left and and this game showed us 399 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: something and we can get on a role here. Right. 400 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: He sounded better this game, and she's most games I 401 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: can remember recently. You know, it was it almost they 402 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: sounded like they won the game my town, like they 403 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: lost thirty or nothing. It was Yeah, Mike todd One 404 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: said it was a junior varsity performance by the Steelers. 405 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: They also uh juju Smith Schuster also adds the back 406 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: ended you know, we were playing against the j V squad, 407 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. So the Ravens won't forget 408 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: that either if they get to face this team again. 409 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: I think that Ravens would not forget a lot of 410 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: the things that have been said and done by the 411 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: Steelers and the Titans over the last year. I think 412 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: they're itching to see both those teams again for that reason. 413 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: For a million different reasons, but particularly that the only 414 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: team I don't want to see is the Chiefs. Let 415 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: somebody else beat the Chiefs. Oh yeah, that No, I 416 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 1: don't want to I want the Chiefs. I don't want. 417 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: I don't want a piece of the Chiefs to me. 418 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: Are the Steelers to Garrett, I'm scared. I'm scared of 419 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: the Chiefs too. Don't get up, You're you're just scared 420 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: of everybody. I'm actually I think that if the Ravens 421 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: see the Steelers or the Titans in the playoffs, I 422 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: like that matchup, I really do. I just I like 423 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: that for for the Ravens. I think that's a win. 424 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: I mean love, I love this podcast for sitting or 425 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: have an extensive playoffs the potential playoff opponents, and we're 426 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: a riding to drop the bracket. Draw it up right now, 427 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: baby on the board skid. Oh man, I'll tell you 428 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: it has been the weirdest week, man, the weirdest week. 429 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: And I will say another thing after the game that 430 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: that kind of hit me is is this this does 431 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: have more of a ripple effect than just who can 432 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: play and who can't? You know, I mean the Ravens 433 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: went through a storm. They went through a storm. I 434 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,479 Speaker 1: mean this is the worst outbreak in the NFL, the worst, 435 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: and and like you know that that takes a toll 436 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: and and hopefully obviously not gonna would cross our fingers 437 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: that the Rains are out of it first of all, 438 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: you know, and that they've done taken all the precautions necessary, 439 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: and that we're out of this outbreak. But and and 440 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: above all else, let's pray that everybody is safe and 441 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: their families are safe, because that is of utmost performance 442 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: of importance. Um. But once, once that is behind the 443 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: Ravens and everybody's healthy. I do you think that the 444 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,239 Speaker 1: Ravens are gonna be a stronger team because of all 445 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: of this, because they got through this storm. Um. Obviously 446 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: you don't want to go through it, that's the last 447 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: thing you want. But I do think that that that 448 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: will be something that this team won't forgetting, that will 449 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: kind of bring these guys together ultimately. Yeah, well, I mean, 450 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: you definitely obviously want to be playing your best, you know, 451 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: December January, and that's hard to orchestrate, you know, no 452 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: matter what you try and do, it's hard to hit 453 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: your peak when you want to buy things that you 454 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: can control. But to me, the Ravens are in a 455 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: situation now where some uncontrollable circumstances good kind of help 456 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: them do that. I mean the schedules, playing in their 457 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: favorite down this stretch. Some of these older guys, you know, 458 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: they're getting they're getting a little time off unwillingly, but 459 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 1: there were some they may feel a lot fresher. Some 460 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: of these guys coming down these last three or four games. 461 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: Then they would have on a normal circumstances that they're 462 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: having to play a lot of guys who normally wouldn't 463 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: be playing this make snaps who are playing well, so 464 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: they're gaining confidence. So yeah, I mean very rarely does 465 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: the team is playing best no matter what year or 466 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: which team is in October. Lately, seemed like they win 467 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: the super Bowl. Seems like that team that gets out hot. 468 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: Last year it was the Ravens that you know in 469 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: early November they were the favorite to go, and I 470 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: remember some eagers, you know, the Packers getting off the 471 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: Great Stars to Chief before they finally broke through. It's 472 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: usually not that team for whatever reason. So maybe this 473 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: is the Ravens turn to sneak in the back door. 474 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: It's certainly they're going through more adversity and you'd like 475 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: to see but still it's not too late. We're gonna 476 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and then when we come back, 477 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: we'll really dive into what the Ravens need to do 478 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: to uh, to make that run that we're all talking about. 479 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: Raves fans know there's only one truck brand strong enough 480 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: to partner with a lounge of the Ravens podcast network, 481 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: and that's Ram Trucks Motor Trends back to back truck 482 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: of the Year. Round offers an available rambox cargo management system, 483 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: four corner air suspension, and a huge amount of rear 484 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: leg room. 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I 494 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: think one thing I just want to point out is 495 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: we we all talked about a guy going on a 496 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: COVID list and they're coming back like it's an ankle injury. 497 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: He's gonna be out two weeks and then he'll be 498 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: back after that. No one really knows if a I 499 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: gets this, like what the implications are, how a guy feels, 500 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: how it responds, and you know, based on what John 501 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: Harball said, it doesn't sound like any of the players 502 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: who were dealing with are in a terrible place, which 503 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: is great, um, but like you don't know, as a 504 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: respiratory virus, I mean, yeah, there's like football is a 505 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: tiring game. Yeah, so you know I saw a little 506 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: bit of that. When when uh when when yesterday was 507 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: the first day that mark Ingram and j K. Dobbins 508 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: can come back and it's like why aren't they playing? 509 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: It's like, well they just you know, they were on 510 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 1: the COVID list for the past ten days and so 511 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: there's an implication there that you have. So anyway, I 512 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: just want to say that point, but what do you 513 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: guys think the team needs to do if they're gonna 514 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: if they're gonna get rolling here? I think we all 515 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: look at the offense like what needs to happen to 516 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: make this make this? You know, kind of save this season. 517 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I was I could coming with something new, 518 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: but I mean the big plays. Look at that. Look 519 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: at that Marques play from last night. How much that 520 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: changed the whole game, even though it was very, very late, 521 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: which is one play the Ravens, You're like, Okay, they 522 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 1: gave it the gallant fight, They're gonna go down. He 523 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: makes that play and it's like they've got chance to win. 524 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: I mean, and they're just starving for more plays like that. 525 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: Even the ur r gpre run early the game. It 526 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily have to come from the passing game, which 527 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: is another reason why it was to me so disappointed 528 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: to see dobbins role get interrupted. I thought that he 529 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: was on the verge of maybe being a guy who 530 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: could give them some splash plays, and now his season 531 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: has been interrupted again. But they need that more than anything. 532 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: The defense, to me, I'm not worried about. I mean, 533 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 1: they've got the talent, Uh, they've got the system. I 534 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: think the defense is something they can hang their hat 535 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: on all the way, but it's it's the offense. It's 536 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 1: the offense. To me that that's my most you know, 537 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: concerned about producing big plays. If they can do that 538 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: then they're right there with anybody to me. If not, 539 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: if they've to grind it out and you don't see 540 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: those flash plays, it's just gonna be hard, especially when 541 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: you start talking about the team that you know, everybody 542 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 1: scared up Kansas City. You've got to be able to 543 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: you know, you're not gonna hold them down before quarters. 544 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 1: You've got to answer with some big players at your home. Yeah, 545 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest. On defense, it's been injuries, 546 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, they get healthy, they get Brandon 547 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: Williams back on the field, play a scampbell and like 548 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,239 Speaker 1: you said, Garrett, you know these guys are coming off 549 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,719 Speaker 1: the COVID list, so we'll you know, we'll see. But 550 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: once the defense gets healthy, which it will ultimately just 551 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: keep doing you you know, I mean they I have 552 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: no fear that they can do pretty well against these 553 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: offenses that are coming up. The Browns are gonna obviously 554 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: be the biggest sets. That's a run heavy team. They've 555 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: run on the Ravens before. The Ravens have to prove that. 556 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,479 Speaker 1: You know, the tackling issues they had against the Titans 557 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: are behind them. Um, but they didn't have all their 558 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: they didn't have their full stables, particularly on the defensive 559 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: line against the Titans or against the Patriots. So get healthy. 560 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: I think the defense is gonna be just fine. You 561 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: hope that Hollywood, you know, the seventy yard touchdown is 562 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,479 Speaker 1: a springboard to something better. You know, obviously a lot 563 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: of fans have been disappointed and what's what's happened with him? 564 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: I still think Hollywood is a good player who's gonna 565 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: break out here eventually. It's just a matter of time. 566 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: Um and and hopefully that time just came. Hopefully we 567 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: just saw it, you know. Um So I couldn't agree 568 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 1: more that it's gonna take more splash plays from the 569 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: offense and the defense just keep doing. You So, you think, 570 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: do you you think of that play from Hollywood could 571 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: be a sign of things to come. I think it 572 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: could be. Yeah, I'm not gonna say, oh yeah, I'm 573 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: totally flipping the script. It's it's done, you know. I 574 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: I think that Hollywood I would have liked to see 575 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: him break a couple more in that game, you know, 576 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: get away after catching the ball. You know, I'm still 577 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: surprised that he just doesn't pick up more yards after 578 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: the catch for a guy that's that fast get him 579 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: in space somehow. You know, there is another deep ball 580 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: that he you know, it was thrown to the outside shoulder. 581 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: He was looking for it on the inside, but he 582 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: didn't quite adjust. There's a ball I thought he could 583 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: have laid out for and maybe made to play on. 584 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: So I don't think it was like a perfect game 585 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: for Hollywood or his best game, but hey, that's okay. 586 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: Maybe his best game is still ahead of us. I 587 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: I just disagree with the fans who think that this 588 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: guy is done. You know, I think Hollywood is far 589 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: from done. M right right, head, Yeah. I mean, once 590 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: he got the space, like once he made that first 591 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: guy miss, I'm thinking he's gonna score. I mean he 592 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: you know, he even kind of just took his time 593 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: doing it because he knows it. Once he gets a 594 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: step on a guy, he's not getting caught from behind. 595 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: So no, it's definitely there. And they've been players early 596 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: in the season where to me, Lamar's timing on these 597 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: throws were off. He Holly would add his man beaten 598 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: either the throw was late, couple on were overthrown. It 599 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: hasn't been all him. The reason why he has this 600 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: stretch where he had this where you didn't hear from 601 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: him that much, but they need him badly because he's 602 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: the most likely guy to produce it. Um. I just 603 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: feel like, also Willich need is snapped stepped up obviously 604 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: before he had to go on the list. There needs 605 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,719 Speaker 1: to be another guy filling that role as far as 606 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: just a chain mover, because they're not running the ball 607 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: with the success they had last year and he's third 608 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: and five, thirds and six. They haven't done a good 609 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: enough job staying on the field and so you know, 610 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: Daz Willie, du Rene boy Akain, it doesn't matter. You 611 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: have to be the same guy every week, but they 612 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: need that guy other than Mark Andrews is always going 613 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: to get a ton of attention to to be a 614 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: guy that Lamar and just built chemistry with and keep 615 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: the change move. Yeah. I think that that is one 616 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: thing that's been a little bit just to put a 617 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: bow on the Hollywood conversation, that's been one thing that 618 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: is disappointing with what we've seen fro him so far. 619 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: We knew that the big play potential was always gonna 620 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: be there. We saw that against the Steelers, but he 621 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: has not been able to to get eight yards on 622 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: a consistent and and no one thought that he was 623 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: gonna be what Anko on Bolden was, where you just 624 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: run an out route and go up and make a 625 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: tough contest to catch. That's not his game. But I 626 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: did think that the rain was to be able to 627 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: do things with him, whether it's bubble screens, whether it's 628 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: coming across the middle, quick slants, just to get him 629 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: the ball and get him that he could go get 630 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: eight yards and that teams were gonna have to play 631 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: off of him because there's so much so scared of 632 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: that speed that if you need to go get a 633 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: few quick ones, that was always going to be there, 634 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: and it hasn't been. And I feel like that's been 635 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: one kind of we spent so much time talking about 636 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: the bigger players that I think that is something that 637 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: um is a little bit disappointing. The other thing I 638 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: would say is, you know, I wonder about Holly was 639 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: still fast, obviously, but you know on that on that 640 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: catch and run, I thought he was gonna just run 641 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: away from everybody, and he obviously got in the end zone. 642 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: And so maybe that was just part of the strategy 643 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: there that that make a Fitzpatrick had an angle on 644 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: him and he kind of made him slow down and 645 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: turn around and then scored anyway, But he didn't like explode, 646 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: and he hasn't been running away from guys like I 647 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: look at when he against the Patriots that took a 648 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: shot down the field and um, and it was over 649 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: before half. I think was it uh McCarthy who was 650 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: running with him step for step um. I just expected 651 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,239 Speaker 1: him to be running away from guys a little bit more. 652 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: And I don't know if he's like I don't know 653 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: if the foot is still bothering him, but he doesn't 654 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: doesn't seem to have that burst that you really want 655 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: to see. And I hope that that changes over these 656 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: next few games. Um. So I want to take it. 657 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: I want to take a minute to talk about Lamar 658 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: real quick because I kind of think that this time 659 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: off for him, as long as everything is okay physically 660 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: coming out of it, could be a good thing for 661 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. I just think he kind of needed a 662 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: break and this also just you know, not having football 663 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,719 Speaker 1: like you know, they said on the broadcast that we 664 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: hadn't had a chance to talk to the players all week, 665 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: but they talked to Hollywood Brown before the game and 666 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: asked him how Lamar is doing, and he was like, dude, 667 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: he is not happy about like he is missing this, 668 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: uh not being able to play. I just think that 669 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: I like a mental kind of shake up for Lamar 670 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: a break, and also like the you know, hunger for 671 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: for getting back out there. I just think that that 672 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: could be good. I've been talking about it all season. 673 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: I just feel like Lamar's body language there's just been 674 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: a lot of built up frustration that feels like for 675 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: me and maybe you know, especially if he can come 676 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: out and have a good game against uh not very 677 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: good Cowboys defense, I think that that could get Lamar going. Man, 678 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: that would be great to see him. I mean I 679 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: do feel yeah, even I agree with your point about 680 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: Lamar has looked frustrated earlier this year. I think he 681 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: was starting to come out a little bit up. He 682 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: was the last couple of games. And yes, so I 683 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: don't think this break will hurt that at all. I mean, 684 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: he's gonna be really rare and to go. He loves 685 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: the play so much. Um and yeah, he knows how 686 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: important is you know. I thought it was interesting too. 687 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: I guess it was last week, but the last time 688 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: I remember him talking when he brought up on his own. 689 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: It reminded him the situation remind him of the rookie 690 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,439 Speaker 1: year when he first took over and they they had 691 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: to win. Um. To me, the man doesn't go back 692 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: and talk too much about stuff that happened in the past, 693 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: other other than pe wee football, which he'd love to 694 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: talk about. But he for him to remember that when 695 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 1: he initially took over the starting quarterback, they had lost 696 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: three games in the row and they he had to 697 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 1: win a whole bunch of games to make the playoffs. 698 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: He's drawing on that. I just found that interesting that 699 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: he recalled that himself. So it's on his mind and 700 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: they're in the same situation right now, and I think 701 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: that he's looking at put put the foot on the 702 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: gas when he comes back. Yeah. I think that's a 703 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: good point, um. And that kind of goes to what 704 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: we were talking about earlier, which is back against the wall, 705 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: got to win these games. You already started to hear it. 706 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: No one believes in us. Lamar said it when he 707 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: talked about that. It seems like everybody wants us to lose, 708 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: you know, all those different things, Like I do feel 709 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: like you know, last year, they went into that season 710 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: with that mentality everyone thought that the Chargers had that 711 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 1: had the script on how to beat them. Lamar is 712 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: not a legit quarterback, and so they kind of wore 713 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: that like like a match of honor all season long. 714 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: You guys didn't believe in us, look at what we're 715 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,479 Speaker 1: doing now. Even when they were rolling, they were still 716 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: that sense of, well, you didn't believe in us at 717 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 1: the start of the season, We're here to prove you wrong. 718 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: This year, it was, like you said, Ryan, it was 719 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: a different conversation. It was it was a f C 720 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: championship at least or bust was kind of the yeah, 721 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 1: could they go undefeated? I mean that that was all 722 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: the public conversation around this team, UM, and so there 723 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,879 Speaker 1: was not much discussion about are they going to make 724 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: the playoffs as a wild card in a extended postseason? 725 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: Like that wasn't the conversation, and so now now it 726 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 1: is UM and I think that when they're in that 727 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: situation where they have to they there is no margin 728 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 1: for air, and I do think that they will play 729 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: better in that environment. All Right, we have an email here, Gere, 730 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: we do We're gonna take a quick break. When we 731 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: come back, we'll read that email. 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All right, time to jump into the email. 742 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 1: As always, you guys can email us at the lounge 743 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: at Ravens dot NFL dot Net's sending your questions every 744 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: single week. This one comes from artists. What a crazy week. 745 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: I'll admit that I was bracing for the worst and 746 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: the Steelers game, but the Ravens put on an incredible efforts, 747 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: especially on defense. If they get healthy, I would not 748 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: be wanting I would not want to be one of 749 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: the team's remaining on their schedule. So like exactly what 750 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: we're talking about. So two questions. UM one is about 751 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: the refs. He says, was there actually an offense that 752 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: the rest could have called a penalty on when the 753 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: Steelers were clearly taking their sweet time getting up from 754 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 1: the goal line at the end of the second half. Yes, 755 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: they could have called a delay of game there, which 756 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 1: would have stopped the clock and been a penalty. They 757 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 1: should have called it. Vince Williams just was laying on 758 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: Gus Edwards and that should have been a penalty. Here. 759 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 1: Can I insert one thing there? Now? Even if they 760 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 1: do call that penalty, I think it does it helps 761 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: the Ravens in that like, okay, now you have a 762 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,760 Speaker 1: chance to actually like huddle and get that play instead 763 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 1: of like a hurried up. Now, the play call was fine, 764 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: the excuse didn't work out, the play call was was great. Um, 765 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: it helps you in that way. But I do think 766 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 1: just by virtue of him uh laying on him for 767 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 1: so long, I'm not sure that the Ravens would have 768 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: had enough time to get two plays off after that. 769 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: It would have even if they called the penalty, they 770 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,760 Speaker 1: would have had to put more time I'm on the clock, 771 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: which they can do in that situation. You can say, 772 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: all right, the penalty the penalty here was with eight 773 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: seconds left. You know, this is where we're stopping it 774 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,399 Speaker 1: and you're we're starting with eight seconds left right now. 775 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: If they did that, then I think and that's what 776 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 1: I don't really understand with like a lot of the 777 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: people that are criticizing the Ravens clock management that situation, Like, 778 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: I think the plan going into it was sound right. 779 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you snap it to Gus with what twenty 780 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 1: three seconds? If he doesn't get in, it's not then 781 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: you're right there. You should be able to get a 782 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 1: playoff pretty quickly, which then is either a touchdown or 783 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 1: an incomplete pass which stops the clock, and then you 784 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 1: can kick the field goal if you want, or go 785 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: for it on fourth down. So you know, now, I 786 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: guess you have to factor in that they are going 787 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: to probably hold your guys down if you don't get 788 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 1: in on that run, and then you're putting it in 789 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: the ref's hands too to stop that or something. That's 790 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,800 Speaker 1: I guess the trouble, right, And I've seen some criticism 791 00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: they should have an arg three should have spiked the 792 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: ball there, Okay, Well that were that makes sense only 793 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: if you were if you want, which Raves weren't gonna 794 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: do they decided which the Ravens were playing with r 795 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: G three in a in a bunch of backups on 796 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,359 Speaker 1: their offense. If you're at the one yard line, you're 797 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: probably not gonna be down there. Again, there's no way 798 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 1: you kick that field goal. Get out of here. You 799 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: go for it, and so that ment, even if he 800 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 1: spikes it, you only have two places they ran those 801 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: two plays. So I don't really criticize the clock management. 802 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: I guess the criticism could be if you go pass 803 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 1: past and then on the third you could have run 804 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 1: UM in that situation. Um, sure, then you can get 805 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: an extra play. But look the well the play call 806 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: worked exactly the Yeah, he put put his hands, Luke 807 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 1: Wilson didn't catch catch the ball, you know, and then 808 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 1: you're and it's a different conversation, um, And then the 809 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: other part of the question here and then this is um, 810 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: something we did spend a little time talking about. But 811 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: it seems like the team has been penalized for illegal 812 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: formations and motions a ton of times this year. It's 813 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,840 Speaker 1: that no matter, yep. Is that a matter of timing 814 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 1: and execution pre snap move movements? What what's the reason 815 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: for that? Anybody got sucked both of you. Anybody got 816 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: an answer for that? I have, I mean, I do 817 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: have an answer. One is that the Ravens do a 818 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 1: lot more pre snap motion just in teams in general. 819 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: So they've got a lot of guys as part of 820 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: Greg Rama's offense. But they did that last year. No, 821 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's I'm just they need to do 822 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,720 Speaker 1: it better. They need to be the It's honestly just sloppy. 823 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: I mean, this is sloppy by the players who have 824 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: been called for it, to be quite honest. Some now 825 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 1: some of it was like I think there were what 826 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: two or three on tackles who weren't exactly lined up 827 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 1: on the line of scrimmage, which is a very like 828 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: judgment call. You always see offensive tackles cheating a little 829 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 1: bit in those passing situations. You want to get a 830 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 1: little further up the line of scritage to give themselves 831 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: a little better chance against that pass rusher. So like 832 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 1: that's a very tick tacky, ticky tack kind of judgment call. 833 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,359 Speaker 1: It's not pure sloppiness in my in, but the ones 834 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: that are on the tight ends and the wide receivers 835 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 1: who aren't getting lined up after going in motion and 836 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,800 Speaker 1: stuff that's just sloppy. There's no other way to say it. 837 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 1: And they've had too much sloppiness. Really hurt him just 838 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: I mean it's really hurt them bad spots they've had 839 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: those those things happen. Ye mhm. Alright, So you guys 840 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,280 Speaker 1: can email us as always at the lounge at Ravens 841 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 1: dot NFL dot net. We love to hear from you 842 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 1: guys to sending those emails each and every week. Alright, 843 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: So Cowboys this week, Cliff for you, you're excited to 844 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,760 Speaker 1: see the Dez Bryant versus Das Cowboys showdown on Tuesday 845 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: night football. It makes it a little more interesting. I 846 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,720 Speaker 1: know he'll be pumped. Uh yeah, I mean he this quickly. 847 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: Usually don't get a shout at your old guy, so 848 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 1: I am. But it's it's obviously way bigger than that. Um. 849 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 1: They just have to the Ravens have to make sure 850 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: that they come out and and to me, I love 851 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 1: to just see them hammer hammer somebody just not not 852 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,279 Speaker 1: have have a sweat in the fourth quarter. You don't 853 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 1: wonder what's gonna happen. Well, I mean I hate the 854 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:11,919 Speaker 1: cow Boys, I mean birth So yeah, if there's ever 855 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 1: a team. I love to see them beat six and 856 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 1: five and nothing. This is it, so why not do it? Hey, 857 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 1: I'm down with that. I'm down with that. Clue. Yeah, big, 858 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 1: big game. The Ravens have to The Ravens have to 859 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 1: win this one. I mean they can get in the 860 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: playoffs taking one more loss. The toughest, the toughest team 861 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 1: left on the schedules, the Browns. I think you have 862 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 1: to win all the rest of them at least. So 863 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: if the Ravens don't win this game, I don't think 864 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 1: you're going to the playoffs. So you gotta get it done. Yep, 865 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,399 Speaker 1: yep against any adult, familiar face going against the red 866 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:49,879 Speaker 1: rightful right, So that'll be good to see anyway. Thanks 867 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: for listening. As always, you can reach us at the 868 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 1: Lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. I've got two 869 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 1: kids that are napping right now, so you get ready 870 00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 1: for him. BG Golin Fur