WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: 5 Big Questions vs. Pack 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:06.080 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.120 --> 0:00:17.520 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:21.239 screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Head Hours at 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:32.559 the Star in Frisco. Eta. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:37.800 Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones And welcome into Talking Cowboys 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:42.040 inside the SWBC Mortgage studio here from the Star in Frisco. 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:44.840 Rob Phillips filling in for Bill Jones today got Brian 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:49.200 brought us as always, across the table from me, Mickey 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:54.720 Spagnola to my right, Caden and Will producing next door. Hello, Jents, 0:00:55.600 --> 0:01:00.320 Well up, Robert, Robert, Well, what's up? Is Thursday practice? 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:04.360 There go those Green Bay Packers? Yeah, at and T 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:09.760 Stadium Sunday three twenty five kick and we talked a 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:12.920 lot about trying to defend Aaron Rodgers yesterday as usual, 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:17.880 no easy chore there, and we broke down some of 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:21.440 the injuries on both sides that these teams are dealing 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:23.440 with a month into the season. We got a little 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:27.840 more clarity on that today and we'll see what the 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:29.480 you know, what the Cowboys can do with some of 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:32.360 their injuries, especially up front. What are you guys here 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:37.800 and there? Well, I would think depends which front you're 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:41.000 talking about. You're that's a good question, that's a good point. 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:44.000 Maybe start with the offensive because I was gonna say, 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:47.760 I see little hope for Tyrone Crawford to get back. No, 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:52.040 Tyron Smith is out. Yes, I got a feeling Collins 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:54.600 they're gonna do what they need to do to get 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:57.520 them to the game. Yeah. I think it'll be similar 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:00.520 to what they've been doing with Zach Martin. It's like, 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:03.200 don't wear them out during the week and let that 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:07.240 back heal up as good as possible, and then have 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:09.440 him ready to play in the game. I mak He's 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:12.079 absolutely right about Collins. I think he'll be practicing tomorrow 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:14.280 when they go out there. Nothing today but give him 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:17.760 another day. They gave him Wednesday with the pads outside. 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:20.120 They got that taken care of. They give him today 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:23.160 and then they just practice him up on Friday, you 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:25.120 know when he needs to the short yardage, goal line 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:27.440 stuff that they're gonna do. Think two minutes involved as well, 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:30.160 So yeah, I think that you know, if they can, 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:31.880 if they can get him to the game, I think 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:34.600 that's the most important thing for them. They're gonna need 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:37.040 him to play. They can't go into this game down 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:40.320 two offensive tackles, and I think they realize that, and 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:43.040 you know that's why we're seeing Connor Williams move around 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:45.240 and you know, try and fill a couple of spots. 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:48.360 But yeah, they need to get they need to get 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:50.800 LC out there ready to go. Yeah, it was almost 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:56.160 good that they get Williams some snaps at tackle just 0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:59.360 in case, absolutely, because if something happens in the game, 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:02.079 then he's probably the next guy up out there. They 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:04.040 were planning to do that. You know, he was going 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:06.560 to be part of the rotation Smith out with Smith out, Yeah, 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:08.919 he was gonna get some rotational snaps. So this would 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:11.040 just give him a full actually a couple of two 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:15.240 full practices to you know, the things that offensive tackles 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:18.120 that are. It's different for them as far as playing guard. 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:20.760 You know, we talk about everything that goes on inside, 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:23.680 but it's also the way you look at the rusher, 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:25.960 how you play on your outside eye. You know, you 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:28.480 have to be able to see that rusher and so 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:30.880 you know, with with guard you kind of get all 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:33.560 in the big muddle there, but on that tackle you 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:35.240 have to be able to have that vision to kind 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:37.640 of see that guy to the outside. So it's good 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:39.240 that Connor Williams, if he has to go out there, 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:41.600 at least that's not something. And then and it jogs 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:44.280 brings back memories of him. Okay, when I was at 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:46.640 Texas and I was playing left tackle, I kick kick 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:49.320 kick punch, you know, kick kick, kick punch. You know, 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:51.520 he gets him back in that rhythm again. And if 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:55.120 the if the Packers continue to play their outside linebackers 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:59.240 the way they have, Brian's right that that guy's pretty 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:02.280 wide world wide. You can't sit there and be looking 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:04.280 out there and say, okay, that's the guy. He's coming 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:07.520 right exactly. So the peripheral vision a little bit port 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:10.240 brings it back to him. Yeah, when you studied him 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:13.040 at Texas and graded him pre draft, Williamson, did you 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:14.920 grade him as a tackle or a guard? Well, yeah, 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:17.640 I did. We grade him as a tackle. And the 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:19.839 thing that it was impressive, And I've said this before 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:22.400 many a time with Dave helm and I we did 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:24.720 our Texas swing, the Texas trying where we went through 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:26.479 the you know Texas A and M A University of 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:28.440 Texas and we were there for the pro days, and 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:33.360 I remember the Saints offensive line coach was working him 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:36.359 out as as a not only a tackle, a guard 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:38.120 and also as a center, so they were looking at 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:40.520 all three spots for him. They thought that he had 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:44.919 that kind of flexibility. But his grades when when the 0:04:44.960 --> 0:04:47.919 season started, he was one of the top tackles in 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:50.920 the draft, and then he got hurt and then things 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:52.760 kind of fell apart for him a little bit and 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:56.200 then lasted to the second round, but still very talented 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:58.920 players as we've seen. How do you guys think he's 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:02.400 played so far left guard through four games. I think 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:05.440 there's you know, Garrett likes to say, you know, it's 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:07.600 there's some good, but then there's some things you need 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:09.599 to work on. And I think that's a fair assessment 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:11.279 to him. And I'm not trying to ride the fence 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:14.360 and say, oh, he's been horrible. He's been boy, he's 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:16.640 been really great and oversell it and all that. I 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:19.680 think when you grate sixty five plays to him, there 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:22.320 could be sixty plays that are really good and then 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:24.800 there's five plays where you go, man, if he just 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:26.800 was a little bit more patient. I think that's where 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:29.520 Lyle Collins is kind of making some hay right now 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:32.840 that he is no longer being so aggressive that he 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:35.080 has to punch, he has to say he has to. 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:37.320 You know. It's this thing where he's like, Okay, I'm 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:39.640 gonna let this rusher come to me. I'm strong enough, 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:41.880 I'm gonna set, I'm gonna bend my knees and I'm 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:44.360 gonna take this guy out. And I think that's where 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:47.600 Connor Williams hasn't learned yet. I think Connor Williams really 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:51.080 trust himself to sit there and play patiently enough. When 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:53.280 a guy on his nose, he wants to get that 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:56.600 first punch to stop the charge. And then he's and 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:59.719 then he gets a little overextended when he misses. See 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:02.039 with Collins, that was a problem with Collins. You know, Mickey, 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:05.040 we've all watched practice before. When Collins is bad. What's 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:08.080 wrong with Collins? His hands, his hands go outside and 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:11.440 he doesn't get that inside punch. If you're patient, you 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:14.120 fire your hands inside, you get control and then you work. 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:17.360 Connor Williams, those five plays I talk about will get 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:20.919 over extended, he'll get beat and he'll look bad. But overall, 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:23.719 I mean their offensive lineman. They would love to have 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:27.320 his athletic ability, his ability to bend, to turn, to 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:29.920 get the second level, to get out on a screen. 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:33.159 You know, all those things are really really positive about 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:35.479 him as a player. But he's just, you know, he's 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:37.359 he's a young guy. He's gonna, you know, when they 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:39.640 when he gets into where he's twenty six, twenty seven, 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:41.840 twenty eight years old, he's gonna learn how to whole 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.000 trip and clip, you know, and when he learns all 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:45.840 those things, I think he'll be all right. And he's 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.040 pretty smart and he'll learn that stuff. And I think 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:52.360 what happens when you're judging offensive lineman as a whole. 0:06:54.000 --> 0:07:00.960 We judge how they perform pass block, and if guy 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:03.599 gets by him, then okay, this guy's not playing well. 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:06.159 But no one says, well, he's got to be better 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:08.839 against the run, right, you know, because he's been good 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:13.440 against the run. I think that And I'm kind of 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:17.080 the same way a little bit with Cam Fleming. I 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:20.320 judge him how he passed protects, and if you watch 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:23.160 him run block, and it's like it ain't pretty, but 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:25.920 he kind of gets it done. Yeah, he's better run 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:28.560 blocking than he is pass blocking. That's true. I don't 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:30.960 know if that makes sense or not when you're you 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:36.320 know that big. But so if if if Williams whiffs 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:38.760 on a on a pass block, like Brian said, once 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:41.680 out of sixty five, and it's like, wow, he's not playing, well, yeah, 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:43.720 well what about the other snaps a lot of plays 0:07:43.760 --> 0:07:46.680 in the game over Yeah, see, that's what you're not playing. 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:49.520 You know those first three games, the offensive line, you 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:52.000 weren't sitting there going, oh man, they're making a bunch 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:54.640 of mistakes. Yeah, you know, they were pretty good where 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:56.960 you saw the problems if you want to grade run 0:07:57.000 --> 0:08:00.360 blocking problems, Yeah, against the Saints, where if you do 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:04.000 miss a guy then it's very evident. Zekielett for one. 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:05.920 You know when they when they when they miss a 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:10.280 backside scoop, Ezekielett for three, Ezeki Elett for two. You 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:13.160 know that's where all of a sudden you start going, Okay, 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:15.880 they're struggling in this and and and trust me, five 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:18.320 guys struggled in that football game run block. In the 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:22.559 other day, Travis Frederick provided some insight on that yesterday said, 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:25.440 there really weren't that many plays where everybody was in 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:29.280 concert at the same he's the same time and The 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:32.000 Saints also did a good job of bringing some he 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:35.040 called it generalized pressures where they can run, they can 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:37.480 work whether it's a run or a pass right, and 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:40.520 they were effective doing that and dialed up some good stuff. Yeah, 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:42.760 and he thought the pre credit, he thought he thought 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:46.560 the communication was fine. They didn't They didn't really misscommunicate 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:48.280 on anything over the noise, but it was just the 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:50.160 execution part with the ball was I think that was 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:51.960 the biggest problem in that game for them. I mean, 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:54.400 they didn't have a sack until that final drive of 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:56.200 the game. I mean there's some pressure, but you're gonna 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:58.520 get pressure in the National Football League. You're gonna get 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.079 You're gonna get your quarterback are riled up a little bit. 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:03.720 But I think the run blocking is something when they 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:06.160 go back and to say, Okay, maybe my head didn't 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:08.079 get all the way across, Maybe I'd got to take 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:10.520 a better step, Maybe I need to take a flatter 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:12.800 zone step to get that guy. I think there were 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:15.120 some things technique wise that hurt them in the running 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:16.760 game there, you know what, And I think you got 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:21.559 you gotta credit seek yesterday because people were asking him 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:23.439 questions like do you feel like you need to come 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:26.760 back and redeem yourself. That's all right, Well, try being 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:29.080 a running back when no one's blocking for you. Never. 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:34.120 That's why running backs are always very complimentary of their 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:37.439 offensive line. They know they're not doing that by themselves. 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:40.920 And he didn't do that by himself thirty five yards. 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:42.800 It wasn't like he didn't know where he was going 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:46.000 or he wasn't running hard. Now, sure he's he's taken, 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:49.520 you know, full blame for the fumble, which wasn't a fumble, 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:52.439 but good for him. So I thought he liked that 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:56.520 he handled all that so well yesterday he didn't say like, well, yeah, 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:59.000 no one's blocking for me, not me. Now. He never 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:00.920 does that with his line, and he's always the first 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:03.360 to give him credit. So we'll see. We talked about 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:07.240 the Packers run defense. Maybe there's some opportunities there maybe 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:10.520 or maybe they're really gonna keep we'll see. Um, okay, 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:13.440 let's let's run down the injury report again. Michael Gallop, 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:15.360 what did you see from him yesterday? What are your 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:17.400 thoughts on him as we get into Thursday? Here, Michael 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:19.760 gap is playing a little possum mickey, Yeah, I think so. 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:22.960 I think he's ready to go. He's ready to go. Yeah, 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:25.720 he's he's gonna in the media, it's gotta come out. Well, 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:28.800 you know, I'm gonna. I like what he's doing because 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:30.880 I think Michael Gallup is ready to go, because I 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:33.400 think he told us yesterday today will be the test. Yeah, 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:35.720 Well he had to see what happened after he practiced 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:38.080 on because when you've had a scope like that, sometimes 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:42.800 your your knee will swell up. Yeah, get more activity. 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:45.720 So I think that's what he meant because he was 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.480 running just fine that I saw. They were talking about 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:51.160 a fifteen yard dig that he ran where he just 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:54.560 you know, ran hard up the field, burst inside and 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:56.160 then caught the ball and then went on the move. 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:58.599 I was like, oh, okay, you guys, Yeah, I know, 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:00.959 Michael's Michael looked good out there. They were really happy 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:03.640 the way he now. Mickey's right now. Now they practiced 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:06.680 on the turf today. They were on grass yesterday's. Yeah, 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:08.640 so we'll see if if you know, if there's maybe 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:10.720 more a little bit more limitation. We'll play on turf 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:14.280 on Sunday, same type of field. But you know, they 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:16.880 will see with this one. But all indications coming out 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:19.440 of practice, I think that Michael Gallup was kind of 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:21.720 playing with you a little bit there. He also does 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:25.360 Britt was calling for him to go get treatment after 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:27.400 it was like, you've had one practice, you know. He 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:30.120 doesn't want to get in trouble either with that training staff, like, oh, 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:31.960 let's just take this day by day, do what they 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:34.760 tell me to do. Yeah, but it's looking like he's 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:36.440 on track to get back after a couple of weeks, 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:38.719 which is really impressive. Britt will come and find you, now, 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:40.600 that's right, Yeah, he will. I saw him do that 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:43.120 last week with Antoine. I think Antoine was a little 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:45.520 late getting back over there, and don't make him more. 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:48.880 He got the he got the eye. Yeah, are you 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:51.040 done yet? You know kind of that you've done? Yett? 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:53.640 You do, and I'm waiting for you. Yeah, yeah, exactly. 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:56.080 Anything else pop up on the injury report that's of 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:59.800 concern or of note to you, Mick on the Cowboys side, 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:02.520 because I think the guys that were listed as limited, 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:05.800 uh yeah, it was. It was good that Antoine Woods 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:08.280 was listed as limited, which means he finally did something 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:11.840 and he was walking around without any any sleeve on 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:15.920 his knees. Yeah. Uh, and he seemed to be moving. 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:18.280 You never can tell with him because when he walked 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:22.000 by a straight it's like, oh no, Bryce, no, no 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:25.560 sleeve he goes, we'll need it. Yeah, you know, okay, 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:28.920 so but that's him, right, he's ready to go. They 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:31.120 probably have to tie him down, and that's a that's 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:34.600 a good thing. Uh. The new one that was limited 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:38.599 Chris Jones got a little bit of a sore back. Uh. 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:41.080 But it sounds like Chris Jones would have soar back. 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:46.360 It's much better than the alternative, which would be more punting. Yeah, 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:50.160 so I wouldn't worry about that. If anything different with Tank. 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:54.560 He was a heel Jail said it was a heel Bruce. 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:58.360 So that's not good. That's not good. But that's something 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:00.800 you probably deal with, right pat in the shoe kind 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:02.440 of a thing. Kind of work through it and see 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:05.040 what you can. Again, that's probably the best thing is 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:07.120 to stay off it, get as much treatment. Just can't 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:09.320 I know which you could really treat about it. Maybe 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:11.240 you know, keep it in ice and keep it to 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:14.240 keep it, you know, trying to keep the swelling down 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:16.320 on it and push that blood out of there. But 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:19.280 this says knee shoulder, But didn't we find it's a heel. 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:21.120 Maybe you got a lot of stuff. Maybe he's got 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:22.319 a lot of Yeah, he's maybe he's dealing with some 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:24.760 few things. Speaking of heels, they'll be there, don't worry. 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:27.720 Amari had the heel thing in camp. On one side, 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:29.959 he had the he's got the ankle that he's listed on. 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:33.240 On the other side, he says, it's nothing that's going 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:35.880 to prevent me from performing. So got a big challenge 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:38.440 this week too. He downplayed it. Yeah he did. And 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:40.520 he's a tough guy though. I think people were trying 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:43.079 to hand him an excuse and he was having He's 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:45.520 not going to take that, which kind of before we 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:48.080 get to break. And by the way, five two two 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:50.120 nine seven, when we come back from break, Brand's got 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:53.640 some questions, which I love. But you wrote about two 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:57.559 guys in the Packers secondary of note and this is 0:13:57.600 --> 0:13:59.800 a young group and a young talented group, right, yeah 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:01.760 it is, and you know, and we need to see 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:04.560 what the Kevin King was out right, mickey, and it 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:08.240 was a groin. Yeah, thank you. By the way, No 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:10.760 Davante Adams on the offensive side. Yeah, you know, it's 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:12.680 funny you talk to people because he was kind of 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:16.079 working a little bit pre practice, and people were like, oh, 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:19.600 maybe maybe not. I'll get that status for what he thinks. 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:21.360 I mean a lot of people think that he's out 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:23.760 and hopefully he is out again. I'm not cheerlyinging for 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:28.200 injury if you if you judge by how Lafour answered 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:31.360 the question, it was basically I read that in his 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:35.800 press conference he said nothing new there, referred to the 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:39.560 injury report, which means I'm not telling you anything. Yeah, 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:43.080 and usually that means I'm not telling you anything bad. Yeah, 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:45.440 So that that I always look at that when they 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:48.520 say that, Well, just he wouldn't even talk about it. Yeah, 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:50.920 So we'll see. Because, like I say, they've had problems 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:54.040 with King before he's he's he's a guy that plays 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:55.840 a few games and then gets nicked up and then 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:58.760 doesn't play a couple of games. If he's out again, 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:01.560 that Traymont Williams having to go at it, Josh Jackson 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:04.240 having to go at a safety, Will Redman will have 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:07.280 to go at it. So yeah, if the Cowboys, you know, 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:09.120 if they could find a way to take advantage of 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:11.200 some guys that get on that field, by all means, 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:14.880 please do that is staying away from Jerry Alexander, I 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:17.200 think is the best best plan for these guys right now. 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.320 You're a fan of his work, yeah, I am, I am. 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:21.320 I'm a real fan of his work. He's one of 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:24.120 those guys. He's one of the top cornerbacks in the league, 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:28.000 you know, and he's he probably doesn't get enough credit 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:30.080 as he actually deserves. But when you watch him play, 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:32.320 he's got some special traits to him. He sure does. 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:38.320 And Savage as well. I mean, that's another guy stocked 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:41.080 up some young drafted drafting to him in the first round. 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:43.480 He's a safety from Maryland. He could play, he could 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:46.640 play in the slot as well. He's comfortable covering. You 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:48.720 have to be aware of him coming up and knocking 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:50.640 the ball loose. He's a he's one of those guys 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.120 it has a feel for how to create turnovers. Uh. 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:55.400 Kirk Cousins was running up the field and all of 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:58.320 a sudden, ball gets punched out of his hand because 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:00.960 of Darnell Savage coming up, and you know, it was like, oh, 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:03.200 you gotta be careful hitting a quarterback. Well, I mean that, 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:05.080 I mean you can't punch the ball out of his hands. 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:07.640 And that's what they were able to do, so keep 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:09.840 an eye on him. He Now, I will say this 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:12.440 about him in the Philadelphia game, there was a couple 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:14.760 of times in space where he missed some tackles. They've 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:17.280 had some problems with some tackling going on in Green Bay. 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:19.760 So if the Cowboys can kind of get some things 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:23.280 going in space, break some runs, get some yards after 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:27.560 catch or yards after contact, then I think that, you know, 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:29.680 that would abode well in this game for them. You 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.240 think we're at a point with Michael Gallup that having 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:36.640 him back just impacts everybody else on that offensive side 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:38.360 of the ball. I mean, is that how much he's grown. 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:41.600 His energy is huge. The way he plays because he's 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:43.800 such a he reminds me a little bit. And again 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:47.000 this is gonna sound maybe off, but remember the energy 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:49.240 that does Bryant brought when he caught a ball and 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:51.360 then all of a sudden, it's exploding up the field 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:53.440 and you're watching guys run and they're trying to tackle 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:56.840 him and stuff that's contagious to an offense. They see that, 0:16:56.960 --> 0:16:58.880 you know, and all of a sudden defenders feel that 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:01.080 and they know this, Oh geez, we got to deal 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:03.960 with this all day you could. You could destroy someone's 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:06.320 will to compete if you just keep making plays on him. 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:08.320 You know. That's and that's what Michael Gallup can do 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:10.640 for you. And we talked about his ability to take 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:13.800 the ball inside and just explode up the field or 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.399 go vertically and then get the ball over the top. 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:18.879 So you get a guy that could beat you underneath, 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:21.840 intermediate and down the field, and it just brings the 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:26.119 energy and the and the juice that the offense needs. 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:27.680 All of a sudden, you throw him the ball, it's 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:30.680 a seven yard pass, it goes for eighteen. That's that's 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:32.680 big time stuff for you right there. And his will 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:34.680 to fight for the ball too, you know. And and 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:37.800 I'm not comparing him to him, but that that was 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:40.560 the same thing Michael Irvin had. Michael Irvin won the 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:43.040 fastest receiver, but once he got the ball in his hand, 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:45.280 he was tough to bring. Guys didn't want to tackle Nope. 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:47.439 And they didn't want to tackle Dez nope. You know, 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:51.080 once he got a head of steam going no, there's like, Okay, 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:53.480 I'll act like i want to, but I'm not doing 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:56.480 I think he started because when you look at him now, 0:17:56.640 --> 0:18:00.280 he is so much stronger than what he was last year. Question. 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:03.600 It's amazing. Yeah, that first offseason always makes a difference 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:05.520 for these young guys. All right, let's take our first 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:08.240 break when we come back by the way, eight five five, 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:10.120 two two nine seven is the number. 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