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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Head Hours at

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Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco. Eta. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones And welcome into Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: inside the SWBC Mortgage studio here from the Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips filling in for Bill Jones today got Brian

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Speaker 1: brought us as always, across the table from me, Mickey

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Speaker 1: Spagnola to my right, Caden and Will producing next door. Hello, Jents,

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Speaker 1: Well up, Robert, Robert, Well, what's up? Is Thursday practice?

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Speaker 1: There go those Green Bay Packers? Yeah, at and T

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Speaker 1: Stadium Sunday three twenty five kick and we talked a

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Speaker 1: lot about trying to defend Aaron Rodgers yesterday as usual,

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Speaker 1: no easy chore there, and we broke down some of

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Speaker 1: the injuries on both sides that these teams are dealing

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Speaker 1: with a month into the season. We got a little

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Speaker 1: more clarity on that today and we'll see what the

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Speaker 1: you know, what the Cowboys can do with some of

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Speaker 1: their injuries, especially up front. What are you guys here

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Speaker 1: and there? Well, I would think depends which front you're

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Speaker 1: talking about. You're that's a good question, that's a good point.

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Speaker 1: Maybe start with the offensive because I was gonna say,

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Speaker 1: I see little hope for Tyrone Crawford to get back. No,

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Speaker 1: Tyron Smith is out. Yes, I got a feeling Collins

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Speaker 1: they're gonna do what they need to do to get

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Speaker 1: them to the game. Yeah. I think it'll be similar

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Speaker 1: to what they've been doing with Zach Martin. It's like,

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Speaker 1: don't wear them out during the week and let that

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Speaker 1: back heal up as good as possible, and then have

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Speaker 1: him ready to play in the game. I mak He's

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Speaker 1: absolutely right about Collins. I think he'll be practicing tomorrow

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Speaker 1: when they go out there. Nothing today but give him

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Speaker 1: another day. They gave him Wednesday with the pads outside.

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Speaker 1: They got that taken care of. They give him today

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Speaker 1: and then they just practice him up on Friday, you

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Speaker 1: know when he needs to the short yardage, goal line

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Speaker 1: stuff that they're gonna do. Think two minutes involved as well,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that you know, if they can,

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Speaker 1: if they can get him to the game, I think

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Speaker 1: that's the most important thing for them. They're gonna need

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Speaker 1: him to play. They can't go into this game down

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Speaker 1: two offensive tackles, and I think they realize that, and

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Speaker 1: you know that's why we're seeing Connor Williams move around

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Speaker 1: and you know, try and fill a couple of spots.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, they need to get they need to get

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Speaker 1: LC out there ready to go. Yeah, it was almost

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Speaker 1: good that they get Williams some snaps at tackle just

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Speaker 1: in case, absolutely, because if something happens in the game,

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Speaker 1: then he's probably the next guy up out there. They

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Speaker 1: were planning to do that. You know, he was going

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Speaker 1: to be part of the rotation Smith out with Smith out, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was gonna get some rotational snaps. So this would

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Speaker 1: just give him a full actually a couple of two

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Speaker 1: full practices to you know, the things that offensive tackles

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Speaker 1: that are. It's different for them as far as playing guard.

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Speaker 1: You know, we talk about everything that goes on inside,

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Speaker 1: but it's also the way you look at the rusher,

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Speaker 1: how you play on your outside eye. You know, you

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Speaker 1: have to be able to have that vision to kind

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Speaker 1: that Connor Williams, if he has to go out there,

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Speaker 1: at least that's not something. And then and it jogs

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Speaker 1: brings back memories of him. Okay, when I was at

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Speaker 1: he gets him back in that rhythm again. And if

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Speaker 1: the if the Packers continue to play their outside linebackers

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Speaker 1: the way they have, Brian's right that that guy's pretty

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Speaker 1: wide world wide. You can't sit there and be looking

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Speaker 1: out there and say, okay, that's the guy. He's coming

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Speaker 1: right exactly. So the peripheral vision a little bit port

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Speaker 1: brings it back to him. Yeah, when you studied him

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Speaker 1: at Texas and graded him pre draft, Williamson, did you

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Speaker 1: there's five plays where you go, man, if he just

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Speaker 1: he doesn't get that inside punch. If you're patient, you

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Speaker 1: over extended, he'll get beat and he'll look bad. But overall,

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Speaker 1: But no one says, well, he's got to be better

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Speaker 1: judge him how he passed protects, and if you watch

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Speaker 1: him run block, and it's like it ain't pretty, but

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Speaker 1: he kind of gets it done. Yeah, he's better run

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Speaker 1: know if that makes sense or not when you're you

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Speaker 1: you saw the problems if you want to grade run

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Speaker 1: they're struggling in this and and and trust me, five

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Speaker 1: other day, Travis Frederick provided some insight on that yesterday said,

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Speaker 1: the communication was fine. They didn't They didn't really misscommunicate

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Speaker 1: the game. I mean there's some pressure, but you're gonna

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Speaker 1: But I think the run blocking is something when they

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Speaker 1: zone step to get that guy. I think there were

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Speaker 1: you gotta credit seek yesterday because people were asking him

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Speaker 1: back and redeem yourself. That's all right, Well, try being

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Speaker 1: a running back when no one's blocking for you. Never.

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Speaker 1: That's why running backs are always very complimentary of their

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Speaker 1: And he didn't do that by himself thirty five yards.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't like he didn't know where he was going

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Speaker 1: or he wasn't running hard. Now, sure he's he's taken,

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Speaker 1: you know, full blame for the fumble, which wasn't a fumble,

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Speaker 1: he handled all that so well yesterday he didn't say like, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: what did you see from him yesterday? What are your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on him as we get into Thursday? Here, Michael

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Speaker 1: gap is playing a little possum mickey, Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 1: I would his ability to get outside the pocket. And

425
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Speaker 1: he thought that would take care of him when he

426
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Speaker 1: had a basically torn calf muscle in that playoff game

427
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 1: and on one lay, he still will manage to get

428
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Speaker 1: out there and just frustrate him with So you're saying

429
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 1: the mobility, yeah, he's I mean, he's good in the pocket,

430
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 1: don't get me right, But I think he got a

431
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 1: fairer chance for your secondary than him out there improvising.

432
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 1: He and you know this better than any of us.

433
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,399
Speaker 1: But he's not Brett Farve. They've got different games. But

434
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,639
Speaker 1: he does remind me of Brett in the way he can.

435
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Speaker 1: He's not a scrambler in us. Well, he can be,

436
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 1: but buying extra time in the pocket for himself or

437
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,680
Speaker 1: taken off and running, it's the whole keep him in

438
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Speaker 1: the well thing. Rod, You're gonna hear Rod and Christoph

439
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 1: Shard say that today this week, I guarantee you I

440
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 1: think I could eliminate his vision. I would say, please

441
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 1: take away his vision, his ability to see the way

442
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,119
Speaker 1: he does down the field. You guys talked about hit

443
00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 1: the mobility party, but he sees everything developing down the field.

444
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 1: And he's so good at just going to the room

445
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 1: when you make a mistake. He finds the mistake out there.

446
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 1: You know. So that's well, yeah, it's a good point

447
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Speaker 1: because I was talking with Jeff Heath about it, and

448
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 1: you know, he's had to play against him so many times,

449
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 1: and he said, it's really weird. He said, but because

450
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 1: you when you look at him, his eyes are down

451
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 1: like he's looking where he's gonna move, he said, But

452
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: for some reason, with his eyes down, he still sees

453
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Speaker 1: down the field right. It's he said, it's very deceptive

454
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,199
Speaker 1: because he's always looking for a crease, and then all

455
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:37,959
Speaker 1: of a sudden he's up and he finds a guy

456
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 1: down field. That's a lot of trust in your receivers.

457
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Speaker 1: Then you know where they're going to be. That's exactly,

458
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Speaker 1: and he's got some I'll get to that question here

459
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Speaker 1: in a little bit. My next question few boys is

460
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Speaker 1: do you help Cam flimming off the jump or do

461
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 1: you see how it goes to start off the jump,

462
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: just so there's not a breakdown early for your offense. Yeah,

463
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Speaker 1: if you want. I I just think that you're going

464
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,959
Speaker 1: to see a tight end over there quite a bit.

465
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 1: Normally a lot of times you see the tight end

466
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,880
Speaker 1: tight to the right side. That's the strong side to run.

467
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 1: But I think in passing situations or if you want

468
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: to pass, I think you just need to have some

469
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 1: protection over there. And it's not like the guy's got

470
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 1: to stay there and double team all the time. Sure,

471
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: just get in the way, Nicol, run over ye, get

472
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: to the ball. Yeah. It's like a lot of times

473
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 1: last year when they played Washington in that first game,

474
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 1: the tight end was kind of behind covering. Yeah, it

475
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 1: was kind of behind him all you know, like I

476
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,199
Speaker 1: kept saying, in his hip pocket, it went right behind him,

477
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 1: but off to the side. And then Fleming knows that

478
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: he got to protect the inside. He's got to help

479
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 1: to the outside or you know a lot of times

480
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 1: they were you know, people don't like that too tight

481
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 1: end formation, but you know it's not a bad thing

482
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: on that side. Robert, I agree, it's a formula that's

483
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 1: worked for him. They got two wins, I believe with

484
00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: him in the starting lineup last year, so I would

485
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 1: I would stick with that. But I mean, I'm a

486
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: feeling they're gonna let him go and see what happens.

487
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: He's got to be on his own. Some you can't

488
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 1: every time. I'm not saying no, no, he's not saying

489
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 1: every time. I know what you got to say. In

490
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: the majority of them. Yeah, yeah, So like from like

491
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 1: the third snap, if they're gonna throw the ball, put

492
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 1: Mickey's tied in in a wing position over there and

493
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,239
Speaker 1: try and kind of set a little tone, or put

494
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: the running back over there and send him out into

495
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: the formation to the left side. But you're saying see

496
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: how he does on the I think I think that

497
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna I like what you guys are saying, but

498
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: I also have a feeling they're gonna just let him

499
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 1: go and see how it goes. Well, God bless him.

500
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: You have more confidence than I. Yeah, you'll be sitting

501
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 1: the press box losing your mind on that one. You're ready,

502
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: I'll text shift, Yeah, thanks, I'll watch the game. Start

503
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 1: a chart, Yeah, exactly. Okay, how do we think kill them?

504
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: Moore is going to travel this week by ground or

505
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: through the air. M I hope to God by the ground.

506
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 1: Why is that Philadelphia one hundred and seventy six yards rushing,

507
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,479
Speaker 1: Den one hundred and forty nine yards rushing, Minnesota one

508
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety eight yard hope. But we said the

509
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: Saints couldn't stop the run, right, Well, all I know,

510
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: there's three in a row. They they they averaged one

511
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: hundred Those three teams average one hundred and seventy four

512
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: yards a game, one hundred and seventy four five touchdowns.

513
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: I'm actually with Mick because when that way, he'll get

514
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: to see camp file unlock the right. Yeah. I like

515
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: I like that because Zeke hasn't had many of those

516
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: games he does, they try to get him involved early

517
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: and get set that tone, get it reset, right. I

518
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 1: think that's gonna happen. But I also think there's merit

519
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: to especially with gallop back. You can spread these guys

520
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 1: out and try to attack them that way if King

521
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: doesn't play, and maybe the opportunities potentially Yeah, well if

522
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 1: they play their defense the way they played against Philadelphia

523
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: with those wide gaps. Yeah, and and everybody real why

524
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: all you gotta do is block one guy and he's

525
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 1: through the whole Because it's wrong about that. Back is

526
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 1: not wrong about that. That's all they're talking about right

527
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: now too, about how they've got to tighten up on

528
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: their assignments defensively, that they left too many big gaps.

529
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: I mean Delvin Cook had a seventy five yard running Yeah,

530
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 1: sure it did. I mean questions you got left for us?

531
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Speaker 1: Go ahead, and and I'll you have a call you

532
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: want to get. Yeah, let's let's get to NEBBI before

533
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: we take break, and we'll get you. We got questions

534
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: on the other We got a questions all right, nab

535
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: what's up man? Uh? Hi guys, uh listen, uh, what's

536
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: the status of time? Around Crawford for this game. And

537
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Speaker 1: before I go, I also want to say that we

538
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: have to keep uh, we have to keep Aaron Rodgers

539
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Speaker 1: in the in the in the podcat. We have to

540
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: tip passes, we have to beat balls. Uh, we have

541
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: to run the football, and we have to score touchdowns.

542
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 1: Take care, Thanks for being patient with me, and have

543
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: a great week, by all right, Nobby that Bob covers it.

544
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: It's kind of talking about Brian's vision there. Get some

545
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: hands in the face and try to affect him that

546
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: way in the middle of the pocket. Absolutely, yeah, and

547
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: I think that Crawford's not going to play. Yeah, so

548
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: we've kind of talked about that a little bit, so

549
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: you know, maybe next week we'll see how it goes.

550
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: He was out working on the field yesterday, so it

551
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: sound encouraging from Jason Garret yesterday the least. Maybe he's

552
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: making progress making But it's it's that Rasidas. It's what

553
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 1: It's just it and it's in the other hip. It's

554
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: not the one that's been repaired. So yeah, it's something

555
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 1: he's going to have to deal with. You know, here

556
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: we are, We're gonna be in week five and you know,

557
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: maybe in week six, or seven. We're gonna see him

558
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: out on the field, and then you're gonna have a

559
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Speaker 1: buy and probably figure out what you need to do

560
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Speaker 1: from there. All right, let's take our final break and

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Speaker 1: what you got? Need one Cowboy defender to step up?

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Speaker 1: I think that would be huge for what they have

636
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: going on the outside. With the two as rushers. Yeah,

637
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: he's still my answer. My answer because that middle rush

638
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: is really more problematic for quarterbacks than even the outside absolutely, yeah,

639
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: because they can survive the outside rush. It's that stuff

640
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: up in their face that it gives them problems, right,

641
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: and then you're you're falling right into the trap of

642
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: Robert Quinnon to Marcus Lawrence coming off the edges. So

643
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: I'll say I'll say Christian Covington at nose tackle providing

644
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: a pass rush as well, assuming well, maybe Antoine gets back,

645
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: but it looks like it will probably be Covington at

646
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: least for some snaps. I know they might be down

647
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: receivers or receiver, but man, I just don't need a

648
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: Woozier to get the ball over the top of him,

649
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: you know when they go up and you know, Byron

650
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: Jones I think has that ability to play the ball

651
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: above him better with a Woozier. He's close, We've seen

652
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: him finish a couple of times. But it kind of

653
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: these tall receivers. I've started thinking about that Dolphins game,

654
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: you know, with that guy with Parker reaching up and

655
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: him struggling with that, and the pass interferences and all

656
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: that so I would say, I would say that a

657
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: Woozier would be my guy. Did I need to? I

658
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: need him to play well in this game, especially with

659
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: these two tall, rangy receivers that they have on their team. Okay,

660
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: other than the turnovers? What stat are you keeping your

661
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: eye on in this game for key to victory other

662
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: than the turnover? Other than the turnovers? What stats are

663
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: you keeping an eye on during this game? I'll go

664
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: with the one I had yesterday. Can Green Bay be

665
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: productive in the red zone because Rogers is going to

666
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: move the ball and get them in position? But how

667
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: does their running game fair against the Dallas defense or

668
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: can they make them one dimensional particularly in the red zone.

669
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: I think the stat I had was they had twenty

670
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: two red zone plays against the Eagles and through at

671
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: nineteen times. That's not exactly balanced. Can they get them

672
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: out of that as well? The Dallas defense in this

673
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: game sacks ah. I was gonna say pressures, But pressures

674
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: mean that Aaron Rodgers gets off as Mark uh Andy

675
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: skill can throw the ball, he needs to be on

676
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: the ground. Harriet. Does time of possession do anything for

677
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: anybody being you're playing Rodgers? Or does that matter to

678
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: try to keep him off the field. That is that

679
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: is that something? And that was a question I had.

680
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: That was another question of are we what are we

681
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: overthinking in this one game? Well, I don't am I

682
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: overthinking keeping him off the field a little bit because

683
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,280
Speaker 1: in my opinion, because I don't look at this offense

684
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: like the Bridgewater Saints offense where we've got to play

685
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: keep away and we've got to just this. This can

686
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: be an explosive offense. Score with thirty seconds, whether you

687
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: keep the ball nine minutes or not, just get points

688
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: however you can. Now I realized the last two times

689
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,439
Speaker 1: they've lost to him, they left basically too much time

690
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: on the clock. So I get you there, but you know,

691
00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: give me, give me a lead in the second half

692
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: and then start pounding away at Zeke. That's that's like

693
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: old school Cowboys, old school Cowboy, old school Super Bowl

694
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:10,439
Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola Cowboys, Right yeah. But and it's a different team, right, Sure,

695
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: But the Saints had the ball for thirty six minutes.

696
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: They scored twelve points, right So again, but they were

697
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: they were, they had long possessions. Yeah, and that's on you, right,

698
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 1: um so, but just because you get them out of

699
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: there doesn't mean the offense is going to hold on

700
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: to the ball. It doesn't even it out unless you

701
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 1: drive the ball yourself. So I'll take thirty sixty minutes

702
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: of possession and only twelve points and take my chance

703
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: that I can win. Yeah. Yeah, that's the day of

704
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,959
Speaker 1: the week. So are you are you playing keep away

705
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: in this game? Are you just trying to score? No? Well,

706
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: I want points, but he wants points. But he's gonna

707
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: run the ball, yeah, which it's just hard to do.

708
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: But I like what he's saying about. I'm I'm a

709
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: guy that likes to be the physical aspect of the game.

710
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: I believe in that. I think the Cowboys will do

711
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: a better job of blocking this front too. But but

712
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: I also understand though then when they throw the ball,

713
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: they have good success doing that. They have the ability to.

714
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: Now now you're compromised at left tackle. You know, we're

715
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: compromised the left tackle there, So yeah, I'm kind of

716
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 1: That's why I was asking you about the Kellen Moore

717
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: Does he traveled by land or by air? Well? Do

718
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: you think? And Travis Frederick was asked about this yesterday,

719
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: do you expect copycat from defenses and he said absolutely.

720
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: Do you think other teams are going to try this

721
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: clog and cover thing and try to get away too? Yeah,

722
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: I mean, but you got to have they But you

723
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: gotta be able to have the front too, that's what

724
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 1: at the front. Yeah, you have to have the front

725
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: to do it. And you know, like you say, the

726
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: Saints play a four man line, so you know, and

727
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: they they'd had some problems, they'd had some problems against

728
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: the run. Now let's see if the Packers have the same. Now,

729
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: I remember when the Packers are coming in there, mickey

730
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: every time. Yesterday, the Packers are coming here with the

731
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: number one ranked run defense in the in the league

732
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: one time and got slaughtered on it. So here there

733
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: are you know, on the other end of that, I'll

734
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: see you if they if they stopped the Cowboys running

735
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: the ball, then we need to do a deep dive

736
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: in on what's going on with the Cowboys running game. Yeah,

737
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: but I think we're banking on better success from this

738
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: group to Pollard too, by the way, two offensive snaps

739
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: last week. Yeah, I think more Tony Pollard would be good.

740
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: I'm with you. You don't want too much Aaron Rodgers

741
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: right now. They need to get They need to get

742
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: some juice going back in their passing game, and I

743
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: realized a lot of it was part of the Saints

744
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: game plan to try to keep everything in front of them.

745
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: They were just missing those chunk plays though in that game.

746
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: I mean I looked it up. Sixteen chunk plays in

747
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: the first three games and they all resulted on scoring

748
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: drives except for one. They've they've been feasting off those.

749
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: They need to get back to them. Yeah, Packers are

750
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: twenty six against the run. Yeah. So I asked the

751
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: question about this wide gap front. Yeah, I said, does

752
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: that what they do all the time or was that

753
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: just against Philly? Do you think that's going to happen

754
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 1: to you? And the answer was, there's no way they're

755
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: gonna They're gonna squeeze it down to have to there

756
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: not going to leave those gaps between the three defensive

757
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: linemen up front, and there was a term for it,

758
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 1: but squeezing it down and clogging it a little bit

759
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: more inside. So maybe you get an opportunity to get

760
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: the ball on the edge, Yeah, I hope. So I

761
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: was hoping that last week with Pollard and Zeke both

762
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: last question today, boys, where we continue to see Jason

763
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: Garrett gamble on fourth down. Well, it's not a gamble,

764
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: it's it's Yeah, I think when you see how the

765
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: game was going, Yeah, I think it's a calculator risk

766
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: when you go for it on your own forty three. Yeah,

767
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: but you got Ezekiel Elliott, you got this offensive line,

768
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: you needed one yard, you got, you got it, you

769
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: got it right, and you had to look at how

770
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: the game was going. Sure, you needed to keep possessions

771
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: because you needed somehow some way to score a point. Right,

772
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: So to me, you gotta look at you know. And

773
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: I'd listened to how Bill Belichick answered the question the

774
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: other day when everybody jumped on him about analytics, and

775
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: he basically said, I watched the game and I have

776
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: to have a feel for how it's going, how my

777
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: team is performing, what the other team is, what's the

778
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: situation in the game. I just can't have a number.

779
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: Tell me, Okay, on fourth down, you'll make it sixty

780
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 1: percent of the time if it's two yards or less. Right. Also,

781
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: your team you got and you got to know the

782
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: situation of the game. And if you need a possession

783
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: to continue and you think it's worth it, then go

784
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: for it, especially if you're you know, somewhere on the

785
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 1: other side of your own forty yard line. Yeah, I don't.

786
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: I don't think he's lost any faith in Zeke and

787
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: the old so I don't think so. Yeah, I hope

788
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: he does. I like to, you know, I like when

789
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: he does that. I you know what, And I've been

790
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: critical of him in the past, but I mean I'm

791
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 1: okay with him knowing his team and if he needs

792
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: to go and get an extra keep a drive, going

793
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: to maybe get points. Yeah. Absolutely. Now if it's fourth

794
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: and one at your own twenty, it's a different story.

795
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 1: Belichick's done that before. Yeah, and he has. Yeah, but

796
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: you gotta know your team, got on your team, because

797
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: otherwise you're saying, Okay, I'm willing to give up three points. Yeah. Absolutely.

798
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: How we're doing, guys, Well, we're almost done, coach. We've

799
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 1: got two minutes left. Good stuff, Brian, thank you, good answer.

800
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: With two minutes left. Rob in Vegas, you got the

801
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: final word quickly on talking Cowboys today. You know you

802
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: guys we're talking about should we run a pass? I

803
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: think we should run, but not with Zeke. I think

804
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: Dak is the one that needs to run off. Okay,

805
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 1: when he when he runs for over twenty five yards,

806
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: they're twelve and four. And when he and when he

807
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 1: goes for over forty, he's undefeated. I mean, and you're

808
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: telling me these guys are gonna play why they're going

809
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: to crash down? To me, he gets run option all

810
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: over it. They should have did it on those third

811
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 1: and two plays in New Orleans. I think he's made

812
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: for that. You never see him lose yardage when he

813
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: runs that play. He may not run for ten, but

814
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 1: he's such a big body guy. And to me, that's

815
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: what gets this offense really going and makes it dangerous.

816
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: It gets him fired up, the offense fired up, and

817
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: it demoralizes the defense. And I just think that's what

818
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: this team needs to do, is it true? Okay, much

819
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: throwing a boat down the field. Yeah, but he can't.

820
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: Can't forget about using and delay all fair, Rob appreciate.

821
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna send that message down the hallway. Yes, Mickey

822
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: and Mickey will he needs he needs twenty five yards

823
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: and they win. I was thinking forty. There's the magic

824
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: number right there. Yeah, twenty five yards there, twelve and four?

825
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,439
Speaker 1: Is that is that what you think? That's what he said.

826
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 1: So you know what good stuff. I thinks that Rob

827
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: maybe three or four in that first possession. Just let

828
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: him run and get in twenty five and then call

829
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: to win. It's a win. Okay. Well that's we'll talk

830
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: to Mickey and that's our magic number for the day,

831
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 1: and that's talking Cowboys for today. We'll catch you guys

832
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: back on Friday. The break is next. This has been

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Speaker 1: a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas

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