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Speaker 1: to you by the Foul Territory Network. Well that was

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Speaker 1: a newsworthy one here tonight, red Sox picking up the

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Speaker 1: win seven to five, forty and thirty seven. On the year,

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Speaker 1: they've now won ten of thirteen. But the story of

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Speaker 1: the night was clearly Raffi devers here, the Red Sox

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Speaker 1: what it is. Here we are and this win here tonight.

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Speaker 1: I keep saying it. I said it the other night,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I don't ever like to jump to

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Speaker 1: and I was talking about it the other day, and

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Speaker 1: You know what is going to be you know, when

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Speaker 1: What are we gonna do? How are we gonna describe

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Speaker 1: not the beards in twenty thirteen, not do damage in

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Speaker 1: You know, guys are stepping up for each other. You know,

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Speaker 1: You know, you guys got guys just doing different things

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Speaker 1: You know, they were hot with Raffi, but they've kept

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Speaker 1: RAFFI sure, one of the best bats in baseball, but

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Speaker 1: They're not scoring a whole lot of runs. Well, they

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Speaker 1: just showed you here tonight. Seven runs on a board

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Speaker 1: David Hamilton going deep here tonight. I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 1: sounds hypocritical because I just said, oh, I'm ready to

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Speaker 1: move on, But I got a couple more things to

423
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Speaker 1: talk about, a couple more things to talk about here.

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Speaker 1: Here we go, all right, So let's get to the

425
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Speaker 1: hold on. I don't know why this is not working here?

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Speaker 1: Why is this not working for me? On second, I

427
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Speaker 1: don't know why my now my buttons aren't working. I

428
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Speaker 1: don't know what's going on here, But we should we

429
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Speaker 1: talk about first Christian Campbell mm hmm, yeah, I guess

430
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Speaker 1: we can go over the Christian Campbell news. Let's go

431
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Speaker 1: over that first, because that happened yesterday. So Christian Campbell

432
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Speaker 1: sent back down a triple A. You know, it's not surprising,

433
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Speaker 1: I think you The Red Sox were very aggressive with him, right,

434
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Speaker 1: They're very aggressive with him, you know, coming into the year.

435
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Speaker 1: You know, he didn't have a great spring, but they

436
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Speaker 1: still thought very highly of him, and they gave him

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Speaker 1: a shot. Right. It looked great, It looked like a

438
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 1: great call. At the beginning of the year. He did

439
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: great April, hitting great right, has some big moments, but

440
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 1: other teams started figuring him out, and uh, since May fourth,

441
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Speaker 1: Remember he had a bit of an injury with the

442
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Speaker 1: rib at one point. So I do wonder if that

443
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Speaker 1: kind of came into play a little bit where it

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00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: threw him out of his groove and you know, combine

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00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 1: that with other teams figuring him out, making any adjustments

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Speaker 1: to him. I wonder if that ended up being a

447
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 1: perfect storm to you know, for this big slump that

448
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Speaker 1: he's been in since May fourth, hitting one fifty nine

449
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Speaker 1: with a four to sixty five. Ohs. He had done

450
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Speaker 1: a couple of things here over the last couple of weeks,

451
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Speaker 1: but nothing consistently. Had a home run, you know against

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Speaker 1: the Yankees. You know, had a double along the way

453
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Speaker 1: as well, but just not consistent. But the big thing

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Speaker 1: that I've noticed here with Christian Campbell over the last

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Speaker 1: couple especially over the last couple of weeks, has been

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Speaker 1: the defense. There's just been you know, multiple airs that

457
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: have been happening overall in the year, negative eight outs

458
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: above average on the year. You know, that's just not

459
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Speaker 1: going to get it done. So now that he's going

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Speaker 1: back down to Worcester, he's gonna have a bit of

461
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Speaker 1: a reset, get a bit of a breath, kind of

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Speaker 1: get his you know, get his legs under him again.

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Speaker 1: He can just kind of take a step back for

464
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Speaker 1: a second, right work on some tweaks, whether that's anything

465
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Speaker 1: you know, swing wise or pitch selection wise, or you know.

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Speaker 1: I would always say love for Christian Campbell. I love

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Speaker 1: that he goes APO a lot, but I would love

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Speaker 1: for him to be able to unlock maybe a bit

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Speaker 1: more pull in his swing, you know, even pictures on

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Speaker 1: the inside he's just hitting OPO all right. I would

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Speaker 1: love for this guy to you know, get back to

472
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Speaker 1: when he hit that bomb in Texas. Right, you know,

473
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Speaker 1: just a laser into left center. You know, I would

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Speaker 1: love to start seeing that a little bit more. I

475
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Speaker 1: feel like every time he gets a hit or whatever,

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Speaker 1: it's always just something opo. So I'm not sure if

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Speaker 1: that's a mechanical thing, if that's a choice thing, you know,

478
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure, right, a timing thing, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Whatever it is. Let's get that cleaned up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But the big thing is that kra you know, they

481
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Speaker 1: talked about it today. He is going to be getting

482
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Speaker 1: some reps at first base, you know, he is going

483
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Speaker 1: to be playing some second, some center field as well.

484
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Speaker 1: But this is going to be interesting. This is going

485
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Speaker 1: to be interesting, you know, when it comes to kind

486
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Speaker 1: of you know, what is going to be the future

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Speaker 1: of Christian Campbell, at least for this year. I'm very

488
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Speaker 1: interested in that because you got some guys coming back, right,

489
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Speaker 1: you just got Will You're back. But Bregman, he's gonna

490
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Speaker 1: be back probably right around the All Star break. Will

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Speaker 1: that be before after, I'm not sure. But when he

492
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Speaker 1: comes back, obviously going to third. So what is gonna

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Speaker 1: happen here with Marcelo Meyer? Well, I would think, you know, Meyer,

494
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Speaker 1: like I said, he's been solid. You could see the

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Speaker 1: Baseball IQ with Marcelo Meyer, So I think it makes

496
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Speaker 1: a lot of sense to move him over to second

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Speaker 1: base now that Christian Campbell is back down. You know,

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Speaker 1: with Campbell, if he ends up hitting well, if he

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Speaker 1: gets himself back on track with the woof socks, could

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Speaker 1: he come back up and maybe be that everyday option

501
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Speaker 1: at first base right that you keep seeing that report

502
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Speaker 1: that the Red Sox you know they you know, John

503
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Speaker 1: Hayman's talked about it. You know you've seen pass and

504
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Speaker 1: talk about it. Where you know, could they look for

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Speaker 1: an everyday option of first base right whether that's you know,

506
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Speaker 1: trade market or could that be Christian Campbell. I think

507
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Speaker 1: it really depends on what's the bat looking like. Is

508
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: he able to get himself back on track offensively? But

509
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Speaker 1: if he's not, If he if he's able, you know,

510
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Speaker 1: if they feel like he needs to spend more time

511
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Speaker 1: down at Triple A, you know, do they call him

512
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Speaker 1: back up? You know, you know, I don't know. I

513
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Speaker 1: just think if Meyer, if he keeps on, you know,

514
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Speaker 1: just being a solid player, I feel like, especially with

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Speaker 1: the defense that he's brought, I mean, I think you

516
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Speaker 1: could even look at that alone, that at second base

517
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Speaker 1: is going to be huge. Right, He's showing you what

518
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Speaker 1: he can do with third. He's going to be fine

519
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Speaker 1: at second base. I'll tell you that right now. He's

520
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: gonna be completely fine. So that's gonna be an upgrade

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Speaker 1: over Campbell at second. And you know, you know, people

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Speaker 1: have talked about maybe SETI, you know, playing some second

523
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Speaker 1: base as well, but I think the glove is just

524
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Speaker 1: too good to keep out in center field. So to me,

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Speaker 1: Marcella Meyer second base I think just makes a lot

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Speaker 1: of sense, at least at the very least from a

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Speaker 1: defensive point of view. So that's where I'm wondering. I

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Speaker 1: feel like it's either there's two things for Campbell moving forward.

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Speaker 1: You know, sure, I'll leave open the possibility of second

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Speaker 1: base everyone for if you're watching this on Nesson, I

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Speaker 1: do have to wrap it up right there. You can

532
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Speaker 1: see the end of the show here on YouTube. But

533
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: we are at a time here on Nesson now. We'll

534
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: see tomorrow for the postgame coverage. So but when it

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Speaker 1: comes to Christian Campbell moving forward, right, you got to

536
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: think here, if Meyer is going to be the option

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Speaker 1: at second base when Bregman comes back, it's either going

538
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: to be first base or a utility roll off the bench.

539
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: And again, I think that comes down to what's he

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Speaker 1: gonna be doing with the bat. I don't know. If

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Speaker 1: he's not able to get himself back on track, I

542
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Speaker 1: could see a scenario where if he still needs more work,

543
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: he ends up being down at Triple A for a

544
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: little while. You know, on the Red Sox, they just

545
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: got to go, you know, with the best players right now,

546
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: you already got a lot of options coming off the bench.

547
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: You know, if you were to go out there and

548
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: get an everyday option at first base, well that would

549
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: be you know, Romey Abraham, Toro Hamilton. You know, you

550
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: got these guys, you know for infielders. And then on

551
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: top of that, you know you got Connor Wong, ref Snyder.

552
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: So that's a lot of guys off the bench. So

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00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: I feel like right now it's really a wait and

554
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: see at this point. I honestly think the Red Sox

555
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: are looking at that too, So let's see what ends

556
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: up happening here. But I think it's gonna be good

557
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: for him in the end, no matter when he comes back,

558
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: no matter what position he ends up playing. I think

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00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna be the best thing. Right. Sure, you could

560
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: keep him up here and you know, try to still,

561
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: you know, get him to push through this slump. But

562
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,719
Speaker 1: you know what, when you got other guys that are

563
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: just playing well right now, I think it just made

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00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,959
Speaker 1: a lot of sense to put him down there, especially

565
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: he's not really helping you out defensively, right. But I

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Speaker 1: love Christian Campbell. I think I think the world of

567
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: that guy. I think he's gonnad up being a great player.

568
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Speaker 1: So I'm not worried about him at all. I see

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Speaker 1: in the chat Phoenix, Toro isn't sustainable. Red Sox need

570
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Speaker 1: a sure handed guy at first base, and I think

571
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: you're onto something there because the Red Sox again, you know,

572
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: you keep seeing this report of first base right every

573
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Speaker 1: day option, so you know with Toro, he does lack

574
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Speaker 1: that track record. You know, I'm glad that he's been

575
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Speaker 1: able to contribute, but how long are they going to

576
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: be able to keep that up? And you know, you

577
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: could still go out there and go get an everyday guy,

578
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Speaker 1: but then you know, Toro, he's shown that he can

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Speaker 1: play some third, play some first I think he's even

580
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: played some second in his career. Could be wrong on that,

581
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Speaker 1: but I feel like he has at least a little

582
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,719
Speaker 1: But that's a guy you could keep around still, so

583
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Speaker 1: and I see in the chat Michael Toro has demonstrated

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Speaker 1: he deserves it, you know. I think it's just a

585
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: matter of you know, yes, he got hot, right, but

586
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: can he keep it going right at the end of

587
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: the day. You gotta find, like Phoenix said, you got

588
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: to find the most sustainable option. So you know a

589
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: guy that has a good track record, Say you know

590
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: someone like Ryan O'Hearn. He's been hitting great this year.

591
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: If you want to go with the right handed option

592
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: like Rhys Hoskins, possibly if he is going to be available,

593
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's up to whatever the Brewers want

594
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: to do there, or another left handed option like Josh Naylor, whatever,

595
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: or you know, if if Campbell is fine and he's

596
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: good to go, then he could end up being that

597
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: everyday option. So we'll see. There's a lot of question

598
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: marks here. But the only the biggest non question here

599
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: is I think he did need to go back down.

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Speaker 1: So he's gonna be fun. He'll be fine. He will

601
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: be back at some point. But let's get to the

602
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: juiciness here. We got to get to the juiciness, ladies

603
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Speaker 1: and gentlemen, and hold on a second, I don't know

604
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: why my buttons are not working. There we go, let's

605
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: get to these articles here today. Here we go. Oh,

606
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: let's start off with Chris Catillo. He put out a

607
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: tweet not too long ago about I think about an

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00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: hour ago. He said, one of the things that came

609
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: into play with the whole Raffi trade is that the

610
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: Red Sox wanted to build a team first culture and

611
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: they didn't want Raffi refusing to switch positions to rub

612
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: off on the young guys. I think that makes a

613
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: lot of sense, right, You got this new wave of

614
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: talent coming up, a guy that you're playing, paying millions

615
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: of dollars, your highest paid player, your superstar player. Is

616
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: that really the best example, right for these new guys

617
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: that are coming up, and you want to show them

618
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: the right way? Right? I think it makes a lot

619
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: of sense, to be honest with you, And even if

620
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Speaker 1: people disagree with it, I can see the thinking of it. Right.

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Speaker 1: You want to set a good example. You know, yes, yeah,

622
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: they're pros, right, they're major league players. They don't really

623
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: seem to have any bit of a me first kind

624
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: of an attitude. But still, you want your star player

625
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: to be showing that kind of leadership, right, You want

626
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: that guy to be stepping up for the team. And

627
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Speaker 1: in the end, he simply wasn't. He simply wasn't. We

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Speaker 1: got another super chat coming in here, Caesar Rodriguez, thank

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Speaker 1: you for this. My friend nine ninety nine with Chab

630
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: and he hasn't really had a pitch to almost hit someone,

631
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Speaker 1: and we know he is the most non aggressive guy,

632
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Speaker 1: so I think he may have tried to not hit Raffi,

633
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: but at least give him a warning shot, you know,

634
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: I think to me, I honestly think it's more of

635
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: just making him uncomfortable, right, because Raffi has had success

636
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: against him. That's kind of the way I saw it, right,

637
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: That's I mean, those guys have battled a lot Raffi.

638
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: I mean, he's at his number, he has had a

639
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: lot of success off of him. That's why I didn't

640
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: take I didn't see it as anything. To me, I

641
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: don't think it was the right route to go out

642
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 1: there and throw a Raffi. I really didn't see the point.

643
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: I think if you did that, you could come off

644
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 1: as almost petty, right, I think you run the risk

645
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: of your your I don't know, you're not taking that

646
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: chance to just look like the bigger person and just

647
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: move forward. I think that's what the Red Sox want

648
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: to do. I think they're all business right now. I

649
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: think they want to come together as a team. They

650
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 1: want to win ball games. I don't think they're really

651
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: in the business right now of doing anything, you know,

652
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: like going after Raffi. You know, a lot of the

653
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: guys still like him, right, you know he had relationships

654
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: with players, right, you know, sure, yeah, I could totally

655
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: see the team thinking like, yo, yeah, they didn't like what,

656
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: you know, how he went about the whole Posi and

657
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: change thing, and you know, anything else that we're not

658
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: fully aware of. I didn't see it as him going

659
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: after him. I don't think that's even the right idea,

660
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, sure, is that is that popcorn?

661
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: Is that entertainment? You know? Yeah, you could probably see

662
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: it that way. But I just think Raffi he did

663
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: a lot of good things, you know, for this organization.

664
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: Whether or not you know you're you know, against him

665
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: in this whole situation. If you're with him, we can

666
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: all agree he did a lot for the Red Sox. Right,

667
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: came up so big in that twenty eighteen postseason. He's

668
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: put up great numbers. I don't know, I guess think

669
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: to me, it wasn't it didn't feel right, you know,

670
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: But I could totally see where Chapman's thinking. All Right,

671
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: this guy has hit the crap out of me before

672
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: I need to uh, I need to make him a

673
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: little uncomfy, right, push him back a little bit. Let's see,

674
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: thank you, see for the super chet. Appreciate you, my friend.

675
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: Let's what have we got here. Joe Myers played a

676
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: great third base, Yes he has. He has played a

677
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: great third base. So I am not worried about Barcelo

678
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: Meyer playing third base, short second. He's gonna be great

679
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: wherever he plays. But he is a perfect example of

680
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: why you draft shortstops, perfect example, right. I guarantee you

681
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: could put him in the outfield, he'd be completely fine.

682
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: So let's go to the Pete Abraham comments for are

683
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: the article that he had today such on the Christian

684
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: Campbell meeting, speaking of Christian Campbell. So there was that

685
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: whole thing. Right, June Lee used to be with ESPN,

686
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: he's with the AHU Sports now right where saying Raffie

687
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 1: was mad at Christian Campbell for volunteering to play first base. Well,

688
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: that was completely false, by the way Passing mentioned that.

689
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: But we'll get to that a little bit. I'm looking

690
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: at the wrong thing here. My brain is not working

691
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: if in case you didn't know, I have a potato

692
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: for a brain, and it's very late. I am reading

693
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: the wrong note here on my screen. I got bullet

694
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: points that I follow because I have a hard time

695
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: keeping track of things. Oh, I'll get back to the

696
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: Christian Campbell thing in a second. The Kansas City Meeting

697
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 1: Kansas City Meeting, Pete Abraham touched on this, told John

698
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: Henry that he would play first base, but it would

699
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: be next year. In twenty twenty six, said he felt

700
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: like he needed more time, said he felt like it's

701
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: not his fault that you know, players are getting hurt.

702
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: That was a bad look, bad look, bad comment, not good,

703
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: not good. I don't think any I can't even imagine

704
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 1: how anyone could react positively to that. I'm not sure

705
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: if he was trying to say something else or I

706
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know, I don't That was bad.

707
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: That's a bad optic to me. I don't think that

708
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: looked good at all, him saying that. To me, No,

709
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: it's obviously not your fault that another player gets hurt,

710
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: but that's what being there for your team. You can

711
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: hate the front office all you want, you can whatever,

712
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: but those are your teammates. And Tristan Costas this is

713
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 1: the guy that stepped up for him in spring training, right,

714
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: defending him, saying no, I think Raffie should be the

715
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: everyday third baseman. You know we all had a thing

716
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: about that too. But you know, you can still look

717
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: at it where Casas was stepping up for him and

718
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:47,959
Speaker 1: he's saying, not my fault the other players get hurt. Well,

719
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: but still they did, and this is your chance to be,

720
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,720
Speaker 1: you know, one of the leaders of the team, which

721
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: he showed that he wasn't. And I do play in

722
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: twenty six and I was like, okay, but then, but now,

723
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 1: why are you saying you'll play first base to the

724
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 1: Giants now? So that doesn't make sense to me. I

725
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: thought that whole thing was pretty ridiculous. That was a

726
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: pretty ridiculous comment. It was also the Red Sox. He

727
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: was frustrated, They were frustrated with him. For not doing

728
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: more postgame interviews. I did, you know. It's funny. I

729
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: go back, I go back to the game where at

730
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: a walk off home run. I still remember Jared Duran

731
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: was doing that postgame interview right after the game. I

732
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: remember thinking, I'm like, man, Raffi just hit the walk off.

733
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: Usually you would think the you know, the guys at Nessen,

734
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: they would go get the guy they just got the

735
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: game winning hit or the game winning home run, and

736
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: it was Jared ran It was so I remember thinking

737
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: about that at the time, but I was like, eh, whatever,

738
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. There was also Raffi. He talked about

739
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: the Mookie trade. He said when he saw that trade,

740
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: he thought it could happen to him again, though different situations.

741
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: It's not the same thing, the whole thing with MOOKI.

742
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I think you can make the argument,

743
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: of course that Muki they should have found a way

744
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: to keep him around. I did understand why they chose

745
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: to not go that route. Do I agree with it?

746
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 1: The fan in me, No, the guy that looks at

747
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: you know, value and money and all that, and you

748
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 1: know projections moving forward, you know, I can understand where

749
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: they were coming from, right because I don't agree with it.

750
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 1: I think they should have signed him, But I get

751
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: it right, where their pharm system was in a bad place,

752
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 1: they didn't really have a you know, a young team

753
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: to help build around him. That's kind of That's kind

754
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: of the way I looked at it, right, But I

755
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: still think you should have found a way to keep

756
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: him around. That's just me, especially with all the good

757
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 1: that he did for the Red Sox, but this situation

758
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:09,439
Speaker 1: was so different. He was already under contract. Mooki would

759
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: step up for the team. You know, if Mooki was

760
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: still around, Mooki would have played first base igat. Would

761
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: that have been the best option? Probably not, but he

762
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: would have played first base if you asked him to.

763
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: So I don't know, man, I didn't really understand the

764
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 1: comparison there. I don't think there was one. David Ortiz

765
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: he talked about. David Ortiz said, I love Poppy, he

766
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: loves the media. He can say anything he wants. I

767
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: almost took that like, was he trying to throw shade

768
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: at David Ortiz a little bit saying that he can

769
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: say anything he wants. But I think he's earned that

770
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: right to say what he wants. Right, because obviously all

771
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: the good that Poppy did for the Red Sox over

772
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: all those years, right, and I saw I needed to

773
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: comment on this. I need to comment on this because

774
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: David Ortiz, he posted on his Instagram story he was

775
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: standing in front of his number at Famway Park. They

776
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: have the thirty four saying that you have to be

777
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: you can't just be a hitter, you got to be

778
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: the full package. And I, oh, this was making me.

779
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 1: I was fuming reading the comments because of course people

780
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: they gotta look for the contradictions, they got to look

781
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 1: for the loophole in the argument they got. It's always,

782
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: you know, someone will say something and then someone will

783
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: respond with, oh that's that's uh, that's rich coming from

784
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,959
Speaker 1: this person, or well, dot dot dot how about this.

785
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: It's always I see so many of those comments all

786
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: the time. But what David Ortiz meant in that because

787
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: people were saying that, oh, well, David Ortiz didn't even

788
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: play the field, so what is he even talking about.

789
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: He's talking about being a full package. Not necessary that

790
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: you're a guy that can play the field, but a

791
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: guy that can be a leader in the clubhouse, a

792
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: guy that can be a face for the team, a

793
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: guy that will step up for the city. You know,

794
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: you don't have to there's different types of full packages.

795
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: In my opinion, doesn't have to just be that you're

796
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: playing defense and you're hitting. Right with David Ortiz, I

797
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,479
Speaker 1: think you could say David Orties was the full package. Yes,

798
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: no defense, but he was a leader of the team.

799
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 1: He was a face in the community. He did things

800
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: to the media. He was an icon in Boston, right,

801
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: not just because of what he did on the field,

802
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: but everything else that he brought to the team, being,

803
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: you know, in a leadership kind of a role and

804
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: what things that he would do for the city. You

805
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: didn't see that from Raffi. You just didn't see that.

806
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: You know, you didn't see that leadership, right, So that's

807
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: what he meant being a face of the franchise. Raffi

808
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: was the face of the franchise, but he didn't act

809
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: like it. That's a big difference right there. Now let's

810
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: get to the passion article. I got a lot to

811
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: say on this, a lot to say on this. Alex

812
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: Rodriguez did Poppy eat chicken? I don't think Poppy ate

813
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: the chicken. I think that was Beckett Lackey and Lester

814
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: so Passing, he refuted I was saying this one earlier.

815
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: Passing refuted the June Lee report, saying that Devers was

816
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: not upset with Christian Campbell about the first base thing,

817
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: and Raffi talked about this before today's game. Raffi said

818
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: that he was not upset about it. Could I I

819
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: don't know. When I first saw that report, I was thinking,

820
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? It almost sounded like so ridiculous

821
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: saying it. I really hope he wasn't upset. I really

822
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: hope that wasn't actually a thing, and he's just kind

823
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: of saying, no, oh no, I wasn't upset. No, I

824
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: hope that wasn't the case. But Passon said that, you know,

825
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: he talked to people and not so I'll take it

826
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: for what it is. But when I read that, I

827
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: just thought, this is so ridiculous that you would be

828
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: mad at someone. Who knows how that ended up going.

829
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: Alex Cora. Passon said that Korra wanted to meet with

830
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: Raffi in the off season, but Devers would not respond

831
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: to his texts that so with Raffi every off season,

832
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: he kind of just wanted to get away, right, You

833
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: could tell Raffi's an introverted guy for the most part.

834
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: He's a little bit more to himself, which is fine,

835
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: But Cora and to me, if my manager is trying

836
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: to talk with me, meet with me. I mean, that's

837
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: my manager, you know, like I'm going to answer the

838
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: phone for you, you know what I mean. I don't know.

839
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: I just thought that was weird. He did arrive to

840
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 1: spring training early, right, because you know he was he

841
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: had some injuries and whatnot. But I think meeting with

842
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: Kora in the off season, right, go get a bite

843
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: to eat somewhere, you know, go get a good dinner.

844
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,439
Speaker 1: I think that would have really gone a long way

845
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: if coorra could, you know, talk with a Rafu about

846
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: some things. But he didn't want to do it. And then,

847
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: funny enough, it was also reported that Core pretty much

848
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 1: he was supported the trade, right and if he felt

849
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: like he did all he could, even going back to

850
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 1: the off season, trying to contact him, not getting calls,

851
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: not getting phone calls or texts in return. And you know,

852
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: this guy was talking to him and spring and you

853
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: know how wherever else you know, clubhouse and who knows

854
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 1: how many times these guys actually talked, But if coorra

855
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 1: felt like he did everything he could, the guy that's

856
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: you know, seems like out of all of him there,

857
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: you know, he was the closest with him, you know,

858
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,919
Speaker 1: more of that fatherly mentor kind of a figure for him.

859
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: If he felt like he couldn't do anymore, and he couldn't,

860
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 1: you know, get through to RAFFI, then what else can

861
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: you do? Right? If the Red Sox were looking for

862
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: more roster flexibility, which you knows that's something Korr likes.

863
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: He likes to have that, you know, what else do

864
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: you do in that situation? So I can totally understand

865
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: or Korr, He's supported it. Passon also talked about how

866
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,720
Speaker 1: ownership deserves a lot of the blame, and I completely agree.

867
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: I've talked about this before myself. I have said many

868
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: times success and failure always starts at the top. You

869
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: got to remember with John Henry here, right, John Henry

870
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: used to be so invested in this team. I'm not

871
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: saying he's not, but he used to be around. He

872
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: used to just be there, you know. Yeah, sure they

873
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: had a lot of over the years, but he used

874
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: to be more involved. He was at the games, he

875
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: was at Fenway uses there and the last several years

876
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: now he hasn't been right. He's been more invested in Liverpool,

877
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: He's been more invested in PGA partnerships and the Penguins

878
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: and whatever else. You know, all these different ventures Femway

879
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: Sports Group right renovating around the Fenway area. He just

880
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: seems to have his mind elsewhere. And to me that

881
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: shows I just don't think you have the right. I

882
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: don't say the right, but the ownership that they are

883
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: not putting the Red Sox first in their mind in

884
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: my opinion, and I think you are seeing that right.

885
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: You're seeing the communication issues within the organization. You are

886
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: seeing like a lack of culture. It seems like, you know,

887
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: you don't have obviously the goal is to win a

888
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: World Series every year, but there just seems to be

889
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: something just missing. You hear about all these reports and

890
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: whatever else, and then turn over all the time just

891
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: you're seeing so much of it. Cand of get better, sure,

892
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: but you have been lacking that. They need to get

893
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: this whatever culture they're looking to get, you need to

894
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: get it established. And now you can't have something like

895
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: this happen again because you look silly. You need to

896
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: have the right people in place, and if John Henry's

897
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 1: not going to be around, he needs to have the

898
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: right people in place. Is Sam Kennedy the right guy,

899
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: you know, I think for the most part, is Sam Kennedy.

900
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: And you can say what you want, but this guy

901
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: has stood in the fire a lot, and I can

902
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: respect him for that. Right. Whatever needs to be done,

903
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 1: you know, whatever people you got to put in place,

904
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: you got to get that set, you got to get

905
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: this culture established. Craig Breslow. He touched on Craig Breslow

906
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 1: as well. This was another big one. He has a

907
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: small circle of trust and a lot of longtime members

908
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: in the organization aren't in his favor of his heavy

909
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: analytical approach. And there are some within the organization, the

910
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: longtime members who could be turning on him. That's interesting

911
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: to me. Now we can definitely, I think we can

912
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:40,959
Speaker 1: all agree. You know, we can sit here and say

913
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: whatever we want about the whole Raffi thing. He deserves blame,

914
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: but I think Craig definitely does too. I think the

915
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: the I don't say, I don't want to say the

916
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: lack of communication because I think he has been well

917
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 1: for the most part, and I think you go back

918
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: to this past offseason, I don't think they handled the

919
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: whole Raffi thing well at all. I've already said this.

920
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: I would have sat down with Raffi the last game

921
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: of the year, maybe a day or two after, and said, hey,

922
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: this is what we're thinking for the offseason. They didn't

923
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: do that. That's where I think they went wrong. They

924
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: messed up, and I think Craig I'm not sure what

925
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: the thinking was behind that, but Craig seems to at

926
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: least going back here over the last year and a

927
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 1: half or so, seems to be a bit of an issue. Now.

928
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: I did like the report that after Raffi was traded,

929
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: he made himself available to talk to, you know, any

930
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: of the individual players, right, he was having conversations with them.

931
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: I think that was a good thing, right. And Craig

932
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: has talked about this, right, He just talked about this

933
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: in the press conference, the Zoom press conference after Raffi saying,

934
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 1: you know, this is something he needs to own and

935
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: he needs to look at himself in the mirror and

936
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: he needs to improve. So I can appreciate that. You know,

937
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: obviously you got that the what was it the effing

938
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: stiff comment from the guy in the organization that ended

939
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: up getting fired because he left his camera on or

940
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 1: his his mike on or whatever, and Craig heard it.

941
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: But I think Breslo needs to do something about it. Now,

942
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: I do wonder is that gonna matter, right, because I

943
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: actually wont if you think back to John Henry, right,

944
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: you think back John Henry. I can't believe I'm bringing

945
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: up the Moneyball movie, but go back to the Moneyball movie, right,

946
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: because it was it was a real thing. Met with

947
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: Billy bean right, was praising him and how he, you know,

948
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: got the Oakland A's to the postseason, winning more games

949
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 1: than he did the year prior with you know, in

950
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: the year prior that, Jason Giambi and Johnny Damon and

951
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 1: Jason Isringhausen, and they brought in all these guys, yes right,

952
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 1: yes they did have Miguel tay Hatta, Barry Zeo, all

953
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: those guys too that didn't seem to exist in the

954
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: movie Moneyball. But John Henry saw this new approach and

955
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: he wanted to go all in on it. He would

956
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: have made him the highest Paige GM to come to

957
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: the Red Sox. He ended up turning it down. But

958
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: this is what John Henry I think has always wanted

959
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: to do. He wants to have someone that can lead

960
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: the front office in every aspect, whether that's player development, drafting,

961
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 1: free agency, trades, all of that, but also keeping the

962
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: costs down. At the end of the day. Whether you

963
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: like it or not, John Henry's a businessman. We can

964
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: all like that, hate it, whatever it may be. But

965
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: the man's a billionaire for a reason, right, and that's

966
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: why you might not like him. But the guy is

967
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: super successful and you can't really take that away. Has

968
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: he handled the Red Sox well over the last few years.

969
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,959
Speaker 1: I think you can definitely have a conversation about that one.

970
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: But that's just how John Henry likes to operate. So

971
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: I do wonder if he's if he's hearing about people

972
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: in the organization that aren't on Craig's side, and he goes, eh, hey,

973
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: he's making cuts, he's saving me money. He's still making

974
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 1: good moves. Whether you whatever you have to say about

975
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: Craig Breslow. The guy had a good offseason and he

976
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: put together a good team this year. I mean, you know,

977
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: has the team underperformed up to this point. Yeah, except

978
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 1: lately the last couple of weeks. But you can't knock

979
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 1: the off season that he had Garrett Crochet, Alex Bregman,

980
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: Carlos Nervas. I mean, that's you. You could do it.

981
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: You can look at Crochet and Bregman all you want,

982
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: but I think you could look at Carlos Nirvas and think, wow,

983
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: what a great pickup that was, right, bringing Chatman, You're

984
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: bringing Wilson, and you're bringing these guys, you know, bringing

985
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: in Abraham Toro, you know, I mean bringing him in

986
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 1: and in a good amount out of him. So I

987
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: think you could see maybe John Henry looking at Craig

988
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: and thinking, Okay, is he having his issues communication wise? Sure?

989
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 1: But you know what, he's done a pretty good job,

990
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: you know, and he's made some good moves, and he

991
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: is he has found ways for him to save money, right.

992
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 1: I guess they they got rid of about fifty guys

993
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 1: within the within the baseball operations department last year, and

994
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: uh and if they're winning games, and John Henry sees

995
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 1: that and he's thinking, all right, well, okay, well he's

996
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: saving me money. Is that? Am I saying? That's a good,

997
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: you know, good thing. No? I don't want to see

998
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 1: people get fired or laid off, and I don't want

999
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: to see that. But I was looking at it from

1000
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: John Henry's point of view. My point is, does it

1001
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: really matter if people that have been there for a

1002
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: while and they're not liking this new approach from Craig?

1003
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,720
Speaker 1: Does that matter to John Henry? If they're winning games

1004
00:55:54,760 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: and they're cutting costs, I'm gonna lean probably not. However,

1005
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: if they don't start winning games and they can't get

1006
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 1: the ship fully righted, and let's just say they end

1007
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: up not making the postseason, then yeah, I think you

1008
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 1: could maybe have that conversation later on about maybe going

1009
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: in a different direction. But then if you did that,

1010
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: you're looking at another turnover at the head of the

1011
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: front office. Dave Dombrowski to Heine Bloom to Craig to

1012
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: someone else, just like that. You gotta think, you know,

1013
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 1: remember Craig Breslo, He wasn't even the first one that

1014
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:39,439
Speaker 1: seemed to be on the list. So who is going

1015
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: to like if Craig is doing a good enough job,

1016
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: you know, making moves, player development, drafting, like you know,

1017
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: but you're gonna you're gonna fire him because of a

1018
00:56:54,760 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: lack of communication. I don't know. Man. To me, it's like, okay, well,

1019
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 1: then who are you gonna get next? You're gonna have uh,

1020
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: you know, have theo Epstein sell his ownership or whatever

1021
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: it may be to come back to be the new

1022
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 1: president of baseball Ops. Probably not. So who's it gonna be?

1023
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: Who are you gonna bring in? You know? So, I

1024
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: don't know, man, this might be something you gotta kind

1025
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: of stick with, right. I can see John Henry kind

1026
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: of being like, Eh, whatever Craig's doing fine. I could

1027
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: totally see that. But we'll see, we'll see. But those

1028
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: were the comments today from Jeff Passon, Pete Abraham. Chris

1029
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: Catillo had that as well. I'm gonna wrap it up

1030
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: right there, everybody. It is almost two thirty in the

1031
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: morning here on the East Coast. You guys are crazy

1032
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: in a good way. We have one hundred and sixty

1033
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: people in here and you are still up listening to

1034
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: the post game show at almost two thirty in the morning.

1035
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: You guys are your nuts, but I mean that in

1036
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: a good way. Thank you so much for coming out tonight.

1037
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: We do have an early game the next two days.

1038
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: Thank the Lord, Thank the Lord. Jr. Watching from the

1039
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: North Pole, Alaska. Love it, love it, Thank you man,

1040
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: appreciate that. But yes, we do have some early games

1041
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: here the next couple of days. That's amazing four pm

1042
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: tomorrow and Sunday, so we won't have to be here

1043
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 1: this late. But everybody, also, go check out the interview

1044
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: that I did today with Red Sox prospect Blaze Jordan.

1045
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: That was an awesome one. Love that. That was a

1046
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: fun interview today. Go check that out. Go leave a

1047
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: like on it, Go go leave a comment on it.

1048
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: Let me know what you think. He gave some pretty

1049
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: interesting comments. I really enjoyed that interview today. He said

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Speaker 1: a lot of cool little things that I don't think

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Speaker 1: a lot of people knew about since. He talked about

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Speaker 1: Alex Bregman a little bit in there. We talked about

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Speaker 1: this past offseason when he was in the trade rumors

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Speaker 1: with the Ardinals, talked about his reaction to the Raftie trade.

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Speaker 1: It was a good interview. It was a fun one.

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Speaker 1: Go check it out. But everyone, we'll be back here

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Speaker 1: tomorrow for the postgame show. Go get yourself some sleep.

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Speaker 1: I know I am, and we'll see tomorrow