WEBVTT - Anthony 'Spice' Adams praises new DC Eric Washington | Bears, etc. Podcast 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.679 Right justin middle of the field forty five to fifteen. 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:05.720 Bring Russ in front of a leading Lions in his way. 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:10.560 I am Jeff jonahacklitz is on Donnie good us. 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:13.800 What was like playing for Cochie good Gun? 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:16.000 I don't want to answer any questions like that. 0:00:16.160 --> 0:00:17.239 Sixty one yards? 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:20.079 What's Sunday stroll for? Justin field? 0:00:25.320 --> 0:00:28.360 Ye Bears et Cetera brought to you by Miller Lte 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:31.400 with the voices of the Bears, Jeff Joniac and Tom Thayer. 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:35.160 So much to do, so little time. It's episode fifty 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:37.720 three of the Bears et Cetera podcast with Super Bowl 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:41.599 winning Bears guard Tom Thayer. I'm Jeff joniak lots to discuss, 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:44.120 thanks for spending some time with us friends. The Super 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:45.959 Bowl set. With Kansas City back of the Big Game 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:49.159 of the fourth time in six seasons since Patrick Mahomes 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:52.080 took over as the starter, he'll face Rock Purdy and 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:54.120 the forty nine ers in Vegas a week from Sunday. 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:57.480 We also have the Bears settling on new coordinators. Discuss 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:01.120 Shane Waldron last week and this week Washington, the new 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:05.479 defensive coordinator with a plethora of experience coaching defensive lines 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:08.520 and a successful run in Buffalo and Senior Bowl practices 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:12.360 underway in Mobile, Alabama, a crop of many top one 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:15.760 hundred picks in the April Draft, and tom thare. We 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:18.200 have a special member of the Bears family joining us, 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:20.759 the one and only Anthony Spice Adams. First of all, Temmy, 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:21.679 how you feeling, buddy? 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:24.880 You started the show with so much do so little time? 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:27.920 If you can tell me what movie that's from, I'll 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:30.880 buy you and double a esteak dinner anywhere you want, 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:33.640 and I'll give you time to think about it, because 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:38.280 it's a movie from our childhoods that you guys should know. 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:40.000 Wow, take your time. 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:43.080 I'm not going to know that one and no googling allowed. 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:44.680 Double A. 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:47.760 Take your time, Jeff. Pressure is all on you. 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:48.960 Oh, because you know the answers. 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:50.920 Well, I'll give it to either one of you. Either 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:54.360 one of you guess that it is all right? Well, 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:55.640 and from a movie of fun? 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:57.800 I don't know, so double A. 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:00.160 Do you know what's the line? 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:02.400 So much to do, so little time? 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:02.640 Time? 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:04.120 Oh? Yeah, I'm out. 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:06.840 Yeah, all right, I'll tell you at the end of 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:07.360 the program. 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:09.959 All right, that'll keep our listeners involved. But brought to you, 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:13.240 by the way, by Miller Lyte double A. Thanks for 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:16.240 taking the time because there's so much to explore with you. 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:21.880 But first of all, on x otherwise known as Twitter, 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:25.840 you're applauding your hometown team, the Detroit Lions, celebrating that 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:28.320 team that drafted you as well though in San Francisco. 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:31.880 So I'm sure you know the comedian Stephen Wright. I 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:34.880 always love one of his lines. He stops and he says, 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:37.200 wait a minute, I'm having deja vu and amnesia at 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:41.080 the same time. That's what that is. Detroit, San Francisco 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:43.600 and the Super Bowl, and you're repping both. How's that happen? 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:48.120 Oh man, everybody's giving me flack about it, you know, 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:51.560 because I'm from Detroit. But the team that drafted me, 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:54.760 the Lions, are playing, so everybody wants to know. A 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:57.519 you going to root for? I'm rooting for the team 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:01.640 that drafted me. Detroit had a chance to give me 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:06.560 and they didn't. So I'm riding with the Niners and 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:08.080 I hope they win the Super Bowl. 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:10.160 Man, So sorry to. 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:12.280 Let everybody down, but at the end of the day, 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:15.440 it's still a game, okay, So relax. 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:18.920 Double A. During the day of the draft. Did you 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:22.520 have any expectations. Did anybody tell you, hey, we're going 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:24.720 to draft you. Hey, you know we're gonna be calling 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:26.720 it at this route or was it kind of one 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:30.360 of those days that you just sat there and waited 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:31.880 to see what was going to happen. 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:37.720 I talked to the Raiders at the it was either 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:42.880 the Combine or the Senior Bowl, and this was the 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:45.920 defensive coordinator at the time. I remember he sat me down, 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:48.520 he said, we watched the game. We love you, we 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:51.480 love the way that you hustle, said, We'll draft you 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:54.600 in a heartbeat. So I'm like, oh, okay, this is 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:58.080 the first I'm hearing of somebody telling me they're going 0:03:58.120 --> 0:03:58.800 to draft me. 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:00.800 So I'm like, oh wow. 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:04.160 So I was the tenth rated defensive tackle coming out, 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:08.440 and the nine defensive tackles went fast. I mean it 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:12.040 was probably still ten picks left in the first round, 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:16.680 so I'm just like, man, if one of these teams 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:19.440 need a defensive tackle, I should be next off the board. 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:22.159 So the Raiders had the last two picks in the 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:26.599 first round. So I'm like, I remember vividly. I remember 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:29.840 what he was wearing, I remember his clipboard. I remember 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:34.240 the glasses he wore. I remember everything about him saying 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:37.239 he would draft me in a heartbeat. So the last 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:40.440 two picks, they picked namd Assenwah, who's a he's a 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:43.680 good corner, And they picked Tyler Braydon, defensive end out 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:46.800 of Colorado. So I'm just like after that, I had 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:49.719 no clue where I would be drafted, who was going 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:52.400 to draft me or what I know? San Francisco forty 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:56.320 nine ers Dan Quinn, who's you know, defensive coordinator for 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:59.919 Dallas Cowboys. He was the defense he was the defensive 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.440 line coach for the Niners. He came and worked me 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:06.200 and Mike Haynes out who the Bears picked and so 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:10.160 I but I had no clue that they were looking 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.400 at me in the draft, and they ended up getting 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:13.320 me in the second round. 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:15.960 So well, who was who was the decordinator? 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:18.080 I can't remember his name? 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:21.920 No, really, you can remember what he wore, what he said, 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:23.520 but he don't remember his name. I got to look 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:23.920 that up. 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:26.000 Well, I got I got his car, I got his 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:29.880 card and everything, but I just I forgot it because 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:33.080 once I got drafted, I just I forgot everything. At 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:35.440 that point, it was just like it didn't even matter, like, 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:38.359 let's go Niners, Like, I don't care what you told me. 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:40.520 It wasn't Dave Adolph was it. 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:42.039 I don't know. I don't know. 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:44.440 I know Jeff is over there on the machine trying 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:45.960 to look it up, like who is this? 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:47.600 In two thousand and three. 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:52.280 Coordinator double as these guys get ready for the combine 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:54.680 and what a show it's become. How was the combine 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:58.480 experience for you, because back in my day you had 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:00.800 to go to three combines. You had to go to 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.640 one in Tampa, one in Detroit, and one in Seattle. 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:08.720 Really yeah, And I don't know how your experience was 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:09.920 for the combine. 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:14.920 Oh man, that's whack man. You gotta do three, that's crazy. 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:19.560 So I was always under the impression that you kind 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:21.520 of set the time when you want to run the 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:24.640 forty and things like that. But the time is set 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:30.320 for you. Right the day of the combine. I had 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:32.840 to get up at like four am or something like 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:34.960 that because we had like a you got to do 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:37.680 like a like a urine test or something like that, 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:42.080 And so you do that at four am in the morning, 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:44.920 and then you got to see all these doctors. You 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:48.480 get on the Cybex machine and you know, wear your 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:52.240 legs out. Then you go to another doctor who has 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:56.360 a bunch of these papers of all your medical history, 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:01.680 and you take these MRIs, you do thesese, and you 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:04.520 go to another room. There's a bunch of doctors that're 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:06.440 pulling on you that this hurt, does this hurt? 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:08.479 Can you do this? Can you do that? 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:12.200 After all of that, then you run the forty and 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:14.320 all of that stuff. So then you end up running 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:17.760 at probably like two o'clock or something like that, after 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:21.160 you've been up since four am. And so it's just 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:26.440 I wasn't gonna run at first, but then I was like, 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:28.280 you know what I'm doing there? I did everything except 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:31.080 for bench and I did that at my pro day. 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:33.160 What you do thirty one reps? 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:35.240 Yeah, because I didn't see that in your statland. The 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:38.040 one thing you know with the Senior Bowl yesterday was 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:42.200 I guess it would be Sunday, was measurements. Measurements, and 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:44.920 you know that's always a big deal. Is a guy 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:48.120 gonna make it to a number that is listed in 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:52.880 his college college roster or what his weight is and 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:55.840 then so and Tim always gives me a hard time 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:58.040 because I go right to the three eighths, I go 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:00.600 to one eighth. I get, I give you what you do. 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:03.800 You know what you've earned, right, But I was going 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:06.400 to ask you because you're listed as six feet. I 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:08.240 don't think you made it to six feet. 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:09.400 I was, I was. 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:12.400 I was five to eleven point eight, five eleven and 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:16.520 five eighths. But they look, they measure you without your 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:20.200 cleats on? Right, You don't play the game without your cleats? 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:23.040 Why why do you have to measure with my cleats off? 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:25.360 This is it's ridiculous. 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:26.360 What'd you measure? 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:29.200 Hey? My whole my whole life in my high school 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:31.600 and college program, I was listened at six five when 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:34.319 I went to the combine, they got your bare feet 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:36.199 and make you lift your toes up off the ground. 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:39.040 And I was six three and three quarters and I'm going, 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:44.360 no way measure that again. I lost money because of that. 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:48.280 What difference does it make? Though? What turned on the film? 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:48.800 Yeah? 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:49.400 Right? 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:53.080 And can you play? I don't care if you's four 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:56.400 feet eight? Like, can you play? You could play? It 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:56.880 don't matter. 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:57.760 Well, I'll tell you right now. 0:08:57.960 --> 0:08:59.920 That's the thing about it. Double a as. I I 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:03.120 take guys that have a low center of gravity, and 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:06.320 they earn they earn leverage. Okay, if they measure you 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:09.480 at six foot, you're really coming out of your stance 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:13.679 at about you know, four foot three, three foot five, 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:16.840 which is a better advantage than it is if you're 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:20.000 six foot six coming out of your stands. 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:23.640 And about my size giving up leverage about my size 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:26.439 coming out of the stans. You man five seven and 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:28.000 a half coming out of my stance at two and 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:28.440 a half. 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:30.520 Feet, you'd be Sam Mills. 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:32.319 You'd be You'd have to. 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:34.400 Play, you'd have to play a couple of productive years 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:37.520 in the USFL to get yourself into the NFL and 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:39.240 become a Hall of Famer like he did. 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:42.400 There, you have it right there, years playing he would 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:43.320 he wouldn't have made it. 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:49.880 Chuck Resnahan, I mean, come on, that was the defensive 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:52.040 coordinator in the Raiders that told you he's gonna pick. 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.600 Oh man, he president messed up. He messed up. 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:57.760 Now he got he got two good draft picks though, 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:01.199 two good draft picks, man, Two good dudes, man that 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:04.600 I'm dead and Tyler Braden two good dudes, man. 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:06.160 So they got their draft right. 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:09.280 Good news, Chicago United Airlines is getting brand new planes 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:12.120 with all the bells and whistles, like Bluetooth connectivity screens 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:14.960 at every seat in room for everyone's roller bag United, 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:18.640 Proud to fly the Chicago Bears and you too. So 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:22.319 how closely are you watching what happens with the team 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:25.400 that you spent most of your career at. Yes, four 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:28.880 years with the Niners, but you played five years with 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:31.839 the Bears and you got the hat on, you got 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:36.200 your representing this morning. Are you watching every detail that 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:37.160 happens in the building. 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:42.319 Of course, I like us getting Coach Washington. He's back 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:45.120 in the fold. He was great when he was working 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:50.880 with Coach Marinelli, and so I like that and the 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:53.959 fact that the second half of the season our defense 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:58.040 really turned it on. So I think Coach Washington is 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:00.800 not going to do anything but help us, and especially 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:05.800 the defensive line, because that's that's where I know him front. 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:09.000 That's why I know Coach Washington the most working with 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:11.240 me on the defensive line. So I'm excited for that. 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:12.920 I'm excited to see what they do in the draft. 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:16.160 I don't know if we're gonna trade, if we're gonna 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:18.640 like who we're gonna get, whatever, whatever, But I'm excited. 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:21.040 If we're going to keep Justin, then let's let's surround 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:22.320 him with a lot of talent. 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:24.200 So I'm excited for it. 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:28.080 We'll get into coach Washington a minute, But Tom and 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.480 I talk about this, and it's happening every day. 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:30.800 I got. 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:34.520 I got a call yesterday from somebody in the college game. 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:37.800 What are you guys doing? Like, what are you keeping Justin? 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:38.520 Are you trading? 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:39.360 What's going to happen? 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:40.760 They act like we really know. 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:43.920 I know, but it's crazy though. But then so this 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:45.920 is what I do. I just flip it right away, 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:49.240 what would you do? And they have opinions. They people 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:52.400 want to give their opinions, and it is it's it's 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:56.319 fifty to fifty. I mean, it is not eighty twenty, 0:11:56.440 --> 0:12:00.079 it's not twenty five seven. It's fifty to fifty. I 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.560 don't know. That's my experience. I don't know about you, Tommy, 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:03.680 or what you're getting spice. 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:08.240 Yeah, I mean it's the same over here. Everybody asks 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:09.200 what are they going to do? 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:10.840 I don't know. I don't know. 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:15.120 So, uh, if they are going to keep Justin that 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:18.360 surrounded with talent. If they're not, then get the best available. 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:23.920 Get whoever is off the charts, get them, bring them here. 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:27.199 Well, you know, I think the decision is still out 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:29.320 there because now you go and you hire a new 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:32.679 offensive coordinator and Shane Waldron and a quarterback coach and 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:35.840 Carrie Joseph. Now you got to allow these guys to 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:40.520 study the product, look at what the responsibility was per play, 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:44.280 How is the timing of the play after they broke 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:47.160 the huddle and went to the line of scrimmage, And 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:49.960 you have to get an evaluation from the guy that's 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:52.320 going to be in charge of the offense. So I 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:55.439 don't think anybody knows, and I think it's an unanswerable 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:59.040 question at this point, even though they're you know, we're 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:03.040 still in the beginning of the Super Bowl week and uh, 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:07.480 you know every and I don't think anybody's opinion really 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:09.839 matters until you give the guy that you just brought 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:12.360 in here and hired to have his own opinion to 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:16.160 feel if he is a guy that can take justin 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:18.200 and turn him into the player that they believed he 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:22.320 could be when they drafted him, or if you know, 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:25.360 the decision making process during the course of the season 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:28.480 is you know, kind of encouraging him to move on, 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:30.840 and he's got a lot of irons in the fire. 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:34.160 He did a great job with Geno Smith. He's worked 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:36.680 in a lot of different systems. So I think you 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:38.760 have to respect the opinion of the new guy. 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:42.080 The grass is the only green the where you water it, 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:44.840 you know what I mean, Like everybody think, oh, we could, 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:46.520 we could do this, we did that, Let's bring this 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:49.400 guy in, Let's do this that. Uh listen, man, Let's 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:52.800 let's cultivate what we have already. All right, Let's not 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:55.760 just give up so easily, all right, and let's just 0:13:55.840 --> 0:14:00.000 surround justin fields with talent and then let's see what happen. 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:01.880 Let's go all out. 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:04.600 Let's get all the free agent acquisitions we can get, 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:08.240 and let's just build this team. I mean, if you 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:11.560 look at the year that Detroit is having, I mean, 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:15.040 they built that team and they had a lot of grit, man, 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:18.200 and they did something that no other Lions team has 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:21.480 done in thirty two years. I mean, they should have 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:24.440 won was it twelve games? They should have won the 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:31.040 one game. The refs they messed up and they they 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:33.120 cheated them out of a game man that they should 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:33.440 have had. 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:34.080 Man, they should have. 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:38.120 Been twelve and five or thirteen and four, whatever it was. 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:41.400 Well, let me ask you something in relation to what 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:44.000 you think the Detroit Lions are. They should have beat 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:46.400 him in Detroit and they did beat him at home. 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:49.760 Does that give you more encouragement going forward that you 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:53.840 belong and that if you turn things around in a 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:56.640 couple of the games, that you could be that Detroit 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:59.040 Lions team that we're all talking about this year. 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:01.080 I don't think you can just base it off of 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:04.360 that game. You know, you never know, like they were 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:09.120 the Bears were good that day. You know, it's just 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:12.280 like they say any given Sunday, you know, and it 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:16.960 just so happened that game was everything was going right 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:19.680 for us, and so you can't base it off of that. 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:21.720 You kind of got to base it off the season 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:23.280 that you had. You got to base it off of 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:30.000 how did you do when when Khalil Herbert couldn't play? Like, 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:33.520 how did you fail when your offensive linement got hurt? 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:35.480 Like were you able to Like That's how you can 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:38.800 kind of judge or base what you're going to do 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:41.640 for the next season off of, not just off of 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:42.280 the Lions. 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:45.320 GA, Well, we beat the Lions, so and you know. 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:48.480 It's just like you know, the first game Detroit had 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:50.480 when they beat Kansas City. So now you're like, oh, 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:52.520 we're gonna win the super Bowl. That was just a 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:54.600 good game that you had, and you can build off 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:57.200 of it get better. I think everybody just has to 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:00.040 when they're one on one battles, when they're in the 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:02.200 visual batters, look themselves in the mirror and say how 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:05.720 can I get better? How can I impact his team? 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:08.160 And I think if you get eleven players all saying 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:10.600 the same thing, then you'll be happy with the outcome. 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:13.440 Well, one of the things you got to focus to 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:16.560 is the division. You got to beat the division. And 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:19.920 so I'm looking at these playmakers, you know, whether it's 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:22.400 Jordan Love and Green Bay and all those young receivers 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:24.760 and tight ends and Aaron Jones, and we'll see what 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:27.520 their defense looks like with a new coordinator. And then 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:31.040 you got Detroit and you know their instant offense right now, 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:35.080 I mean they are and the Vikings, but that's what 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:38.880 I'm saying. I mean, the Vikings have on both sides 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:40.920 of the ball something to be concerned win. So the 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:43.360 Bears you have to match fire with fire a little bit. 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:45.320 You gotta kind of kind of don't you have to 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:48.320 do guys, You guys played, don't you have to solve 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:51.520 those puzzles first? Like you just can't. You know, you're 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:55.600 only playing six games against your division, but those six 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:59.640 games matter significantly, So you can't just build your team 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:01.920 to face that group, but you know you're facing him 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:05.919 every year. And so I mean speed in Detroit is 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:10.359 insane with Jamir Gibbs and Jamison Williams and that tight 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:13.440 end laporta very and very impressive draft class, not to 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:15.440 mention what they're doing on the defensive side of the ball. 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:17.320 So I don't know how you guys look at it. 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:19.160 Would you look at it that way? And anyway, Timmy, 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:21.480 I'll start with you. 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:23.480 You know double a kind of brought up is how 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:25.840 are you on the day that you play these guys? 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:30.000 And to me, if you're going to play the Green 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:33.639 Bay Packers opening week of the season, you better simulate 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:37.640 more of real game action before you play in week one. 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:39.919 I think if you come out of training camp the 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:42.960 way these teams do today and they have so much 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:46.960 time off before the actual real regular season game, you're 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:50.119 not playing any reps in the preseason you're taking a 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:54.040 real big chance of being unprepared on that first week. Now, 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:57.000 because I'm talking about the Bears did open up with 0:17:57.119 --> 0:18:00.440 Green Bay and they closed with green Bay. So I 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:04.040 do think, you know, thinking about what DOUBLEA said about 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:07.040 being prepared on the day you play him, you know, 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:09.159 I think that's got to be a big point of 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:11.600 ephesis if you do open the schedule again with a 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:12.480 division opponent. 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:19.040 I think that the Bears really need to start scouting 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:22.920 and seeing what free agent can come in and make 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:25.680 an immediate impact in jail with the team. I think 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:28.320 that's what they did so well with our defense. So 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:31.600 I came in. I came from a three to four defense, 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:34.720 but I've always played a four to three. So when 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:37.000 I got a chance to get back into that four three, 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:40.280 I was. I was thriving, especially when we got coach Marinelli, 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:42.879 because he just broke everything down and he had us 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:46.440 so prepared and we did the same thing every day. 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:48.840 So they did a great job of. 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:53.560 Adding me, adding Pie, Satino, is Samoa, all these different 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:56.880 guys who came in and just had immediate impacts. So 0:18:57.080 --> 0:19:00.320 I think that the scouts really need to just could 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:02.960 down and really take their time and find out who's 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:05.520 who's going to be the missing pieces to this defense 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:06.960 as well as the offense. 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:10.399 Well you know, line of scrimmage. It's the same refrain 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:13.879 that I I I shouted from the how highest mountaintop 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:15.879 last year on both sides of the ball, and I 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:18.840 still I still stay there. I still stay there right now. 0:19:19.240 --> 0:19:20.880 Uh you know, you look at you look at these 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:23.879 games in the playoffs. Yeah, you gotta have special quarterback, 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:25.639 but you gotta have an offensive line, and you got 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:28.800 to have a pass rush because an offensive line commute 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:31.400 the pass rush. And if you're not a good offensive line, 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:33.800 your pass rush is gonna hurry up the process of 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:37.879 your quarterback. Aka Lamar Jackson, he was he was not 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:41.040