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Speaker 1: Oh fired up for another episode here the Move the

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Speaker 1: Sticks podcasting for DJ. I Amrent Lewis along with my

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Speaker 1: tremendous impact on me. Uh, from a personal standpoint. My

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Speaker 1: we can we can go. Let's go in the Buffalo

431
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,800
Speaker 1: Bills and what the Buffalo Bills were able to bring

432
00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,800
Speaker 1: to the table. Buffalo goes and get ed Oliver. They

433
00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,560
Speaker 1: get Cody Forward, Uh, Devin Singletary, and Dawson Knox. Those

434
00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,720
Speaker 1: are their first pick. Their picks from the first three rounds.

435
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,480
Speaker 1: All of those guys should be able to come out

436
00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,240
Speaker 1: and carve out roles. Ed Oliver is the upfield pass

437
00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 1: rushes that they need. A difference maker Uh at the

438
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,639
Speaker 1: point of attack gives that defense a little more juice

439
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,879
Speaker 1: and it kind of solidifies their identity. Cody Ford is

440
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,639
Speaker 1: a guy that can play tackle or guard um. He

441
00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,119
Speaker 1: protects Josh Allen but also allows them to pay holes

442
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,120
Speaker 1: for their collection of running backs Frank Gore, Shady McCoy,

443
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,160
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary is a young guy that jumps in their

444
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,919
Speaker 1: running back rotation. And then Dawson Knox gives them a

445
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,119
Speaker 1: guy that is really athletic, but it is also a

446
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 1: rugged block at the point of attack. At tight end,

447
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,439
Speaker 1: you're looking for that combo player. He is that. And

448
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 1: so as they built this fence out around Josh Allen,

449
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 1: you now have someone in the passing game that can

450
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 1: work from inside out, but you also have a protector

451
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 1: and a runners behind. I like that like the Bills

452
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 1: a lot they might crack my top five as well.

453
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 1: So you're top two. Here we go, Here we go,

454
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 1: top two. Let's go. Let's go with the Oakland Raiders.

455
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,440
Speaker 1: Right here in the Oakland Raiders ever want to talk

456
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 1: about their first three picks Ferrell, Josh Jacobs, and then

457
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 1: Jonathan Abraham. Foundational players, Guys with great character, Guys that

458
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 1: are natural leaders, Guys that were respected by their peers,

459
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,120
Speaker 1: were They're gonna be part of the guys that changed

460
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,160
Speaker 1: their culture in that locker room. There, winners, they understand

461
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 1: how to get it done. And to the point, Mike

462
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,159
Speaker 1: Mayock and the Raiders went and took a lot of

463
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,399
Speaker 1: guys from Alabama and Clemson, four guys that appeared in

464
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 1: the championship game, because if you want to win, you

465
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 1: need to get guys who know how to win, and

466
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,439
Speaker 1: they know how to win from the collegiate level. Those

467
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 1: guys will make the sacrifices. And so I just think

468
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 1: from that standpoint alone, there rock solid and they will

469
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 1: make the immediate impact because those as to start. And

470
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 1: don't forget about Trey von Mullen taking in the second

471
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 1: Some people believe he could end up being the best

472
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,679
Speaker 1: corner in the class. Just because of physically what he's

473
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,119
Speaker 1: able to bring to the table, all right, which means

474
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 1: your top impact draft class, impact draft class. I'm gonna

475
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 1: go with the forty Niners. And the reason the forty

476
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 1: Niners at the top of the heap is because, look,

477
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,400
Speaker 1: Nick bos is gonna be an immediate contributor. He's gonna

478
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 1: be able to give them a pass rusher that can

479
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 1: get to the quarterback. His size, his toughness, his ability

480
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 1: to win with technique or also win with speed and power.

481
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 1: That's gonna help them. But the versatile players they added

482
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: on offense, Deebo Samuel Jalen heard, those guys being able

483
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 1: to do so many different things on the perimeter, be

484
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,640
Speaker 1: at the slot receivers, be the playmakers on the outside

485
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 1: Jalen heard, being able to be a wide receiver or

486
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 1: running back, maybe even a tied end. Kyle Shanahan is

487
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 1: one of the more creative minds in football. To give

488
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 1: him those kind of pieces allows him really to get

489
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,439
Speaker 1: in the lab and do some funky things with the

490
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,439
Speaker 1: Sepsisco forward and not his offense. How Like, that's a

491
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 1: good that's a good looking list, right, That's what happened.

492
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 1: Let me go all five. I thought you're gonna take something.

493
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 1: I got five to go here we go, all right, so, um,

494
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna agree with you on a couple of them here,

495
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: but my fifth, my number five. When we're not talking

496
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 1: about a ton in New York Jets, I'm gonna go

497
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 1: Quinny Quinny Williams. Look, I mean if he was the

498
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 1: only player in your draft class, you might be on

499
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 1: this list just because of impact. Up there with Leonard Williams,

500
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,360
Speaker 1: I mean that that is going to be a force, right,

501
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: And look, I think, uh, you know, Jakai Polite probably

502
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,479
Speaker 1: didn't benefit from the run up to the draft. Right,

503
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 1: rotational pass rusher, you know, they need some of that

504
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 1: over there in in New York. I think that's why

505
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: we thought they might go Josh Allen. Um. But you

506
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: know he's got an opportunity is what I would say,

507
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: opportunity for impact. And then another guy we don't talk

508
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: about a ton is Trayvon westco Uh. We saw him

509
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. Um, and you know one of

510
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: those tight ends, h back kind of guys right that

511
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 1: can kind of do it all there. I think Adam

512
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: Gates will find the right ways to use him. Um

513
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: will be an effective target and effective piece of that

514
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: offense for Sam Donald in his second year. So in

515
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 1: terms of impact, I think those guys have some some

516
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: opportunity to make some plays early on for the Jets.

517
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: Um and so they get my number five nod at

518
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: number four Minnesota Vikings. Uh So, look, Brad Berry's gonna

519
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: start right away right somewhere right. I don't know whether

520
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,239
Speaker 1: center guard he's gonna star, right. I wouldn't surprised if

521
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: Drew Sima starts for them, big part of that offensive

522
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: line that helped protect Baker Mayfield and Kyler Murray the

523
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 1: last two years. And then Irv Smith, which is kind

524
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: of almost forcing the hand on these Kyle Rudolph trade

525
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: rumors um, which I mean I Rapporter says, not a rumor,

526
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: it's a he's on the trade block because they could

527
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 1: not reach a deal on a contract extension. So those

528
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 1: talks have broken off and sounds like Rudolph my be

529
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 1: on his way out. So do you want to talk

530
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 1: about an opportunity for impact? It's IRV Smith right there.

531
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 1: So those three guys I think could be immediate impact.

532
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 1: They can be immediate impact guys. I really like the

533
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 1: IERF Smith pick and what they're trying to create in

534
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: Minnesota when Gary Kubia comes over and he's not the

535
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 1: offensive coordinated, but he's heavy handed in the involvement of

536
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: the offense, the zone, the stretch, bootleg action that typically

537
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 1: comes with it, some of the other play action passes

538
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,479
Speaker 1: that come with their run game. To complement it, well,

539
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: you need someone that can command it down the middle

540
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: of the field Adam Field and Stefon Diggs on the outside.

541
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 1: If you have a difference maker that can really make

542
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: plays between the hashes, it allows that offense to go

543
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: to another level. It does in Look, Kyle Rodolph's been

544
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: a really really good player for the Vikings, especially down

545
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: there in the red zone. If Smith feels like he's

546
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 1: a little bit more of an explosive player in the

547
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: middle of the field, so maybe they get a little

548
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: bit of an upgrade on at least that piece of

549
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: his game. Uh at number three. Yeah, you know, we

550
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,360
Speaker 1: talked about it, uh last week a little bit. The Giants.

551
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: I think, you know, immediate impact. We're not necessarily expecting

552
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: that from Daniel Jones, but uh, you know, for talking

553
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: about DeAndre Baker, we're talking about Dexter Lawrence and we're

554
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: talking about Oshane Simonez and even um, if we go

555
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 1: to Julian Love, you know, might get an opportunity there

556
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: as well, uh, to to mix it up in the

557
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: in the backfield, so in the defensive backfield rather. So, Look,

558
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: I think those three guys have an opportunity, uh, you know,

559
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 1: because this defense needs a lot of help. No, it doesn't,

560
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: it doesn't. It doesn't need a lot of help, and

561
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 1: they need it. They need it right away. But when

562
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: you throw in and we can't really count him in

563
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: this this draft class, but we can't talk about real

564
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: peppers and what that strangely, can you do a piece

565
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: of it with him? He is a piece of the

566
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: defensive pauls of being able to move around and do

567
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: some unique things. Um, this defense could be better. Now

568
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to be simple to get those young

569
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: guys on the field. But they need those young guys

570
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: to be able to play and play well right away,

571
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: right Okay, So that brings me to my top two.

572
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 1: I'm going right there with you with the Buffalo Bills. Look,

573
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: the Bills are twenty six in the league in sacks

574
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: last year. Asked this way that the quarterback is right

575
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: at the middle at Oliver Um might end up being

576
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: their best pass rushers this year, for sure, you know

577
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like the most of their pass rushers

578
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: are thirty year older. I'm talking about Erry Hughes, Tomara, Lorenzo, Alexander.

579
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 1: You know, Kyle Williams is gone, so you know, I

580
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: think that's a big piece of the puzzle there. Defensively,

581
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,479
Speaker 1: Cody Ford, I mean, terrific pass blocker right, a lot

582
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: of just one sack. Last year at Oklahoma Josh Allen

583
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: was sacked I think the second most Secon quarterback in

584
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,719
Speaker 1: the first half of the season last year. I think

585
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: it's turned around. He started running the ball a ton right.

586
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 1: Maybe that slows down a little bit, and then also

587
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: pass rush might slow down a little bit if you

588
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 1: if you get Cody Ford into the lineup early, which

589
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: I imagine they probably will, I think they have to

590
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: get him in the lineup right away. Um, this is

591
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: what do you think? Because they had Dion Dawkins there

592
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: at left tackle right, but I think they can put

593
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: them over at the right side. I put Cody on

594
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: the right. I think even though they signed those other

595
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: guys in the off season, I think they still can

596
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,719
Speaker 1: put Cody in the line up. I think, um, no

597
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: matter how we shake it up, he's in the start

598
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: a line of be at a tackle or guard. But

599
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: I think you want to make him comfortable. He's played

600
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: right tackle. Putting my right tackle him. See if he

601
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: can win the job. He doesn't can kick him down inside. Sure,

602
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: they have to make sure that they continue to build

603
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: upon what they displayed last year. They just played last

604
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: year that Josh Allen can be a terrific threat as

605
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: a dual threat in terms of his running ability, his

606
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: running skills. They did some zone read things. They still

607
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: need to get younger because look, Shady and Frank were

608
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: two of the oldest running backs in the league. Get

609
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: a young guy that can make it happen. They have devon,

610
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: Let's see how they do it. I like the way

611
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: that they're trending because they got the right kind of guys.

612
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 1: And Sean McDermott is really big on having the right composition,

613
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: the right kind of chemistry and mix in the locker room.

614
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: I think he has that with the guys that he

615
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: brought in. Yeah, I mean me. He and uh In

616
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: Brandon being certainly seemed to have formed a really nice

617
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: tandem there together. Um, and look, my top class go

618
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: to Oakland. I don't think you know they were They

619
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: were such a bad team last year. Those guys are

620
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: gonna have every opportunity to get in there. I'll just

621
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: mentioned Foster Moreau as well. I feel like it could

622
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: be a guy that impacts them in some way, shape

623
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,479
Speaker 1: or form. Uh. In addition to the guys that we're

624
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: talking about, the foundational pieces, um, quick honorable mention. You know,

625
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: the Chargers are a really good team. So it's gonna

626
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: be tough, tough for a rookie to come in and

627
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: play right away, but especially on the defensive side of

628
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: the ball. But Jerry Tillery up there, you know, rotational

629
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: piece in the defensive line, Brandon me beans th four

630
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: years old, Corey leegiit's not there anymore. Uh. And then

631
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: the sier Adelaie might be fun to watch. Hang, he's

632
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: gonna be watch man. Team know with Derwin James, Um,

633
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: you don't want to put these highest spectations on them,

634
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: but man, we saw what Seattle was able to do

635
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: with Earl Thomas and Cam Chancellor. Maybe, just maybe it

636
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: gives Gus Bradley an opportunity to kind of recreate what

637
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: he wants had. So just a little honorable mentioned there

638
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: as we give our top five impact rookie classes. I'm

639
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: not going very far. I'm in a rush. It's too uncomfortable.

640
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: Sometimes I just forget. Don't kid yourself. There's no such

641
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: thing as a good excuse for not buckling up. If

642
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: you've used any of these excuses or others, you're putting

643
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Speaker 1: yourself at risk of injury or death. In seventeen, more

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Speaker 1: than ten thousand people were unbuckled when they were killed

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Speaker 1: and crashes. That's fifty one cent of people killed in

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Speaker 1: motor vehicle crashes that we're not wearing seat belts. No

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Speaker 1: matter what kind of vehicle you drive, wearing your seat

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Speaker 1: belt is the best defense in a crash. Even when

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Speaker 1: you sit in the back seat, you still need to

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Speaker 1: buckle up. That goes for you when you write taxis

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Speaker 1: and use ride sheering services to cops are on the

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Speaker 1: lookout and writing tickets. So why take the risk alone.

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Speaker 1: Seat belts saved nearly fifteen thousand lives. So do the

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Speaker 1: smart thing, buckle up every trip, day or night. Click

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Speaker 1: it alright, our pleasure now here. As we continue this

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Speaker 1: episode of the Move, the six podcast to welcome in

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Speaker 1: the executive director of the Senior Bowl and I mean

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Speaker 1: multimedia superstar, superstar super here with us. What top, Jim,

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Speaker 1: how's it going? Oh great, We're doing really good man.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having us and uh or thanks for joining

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Speaker 1: us here and look, um, congratulations are in order. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: ninety three players drafted from the Senior Bowl this year.

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Speaker 1: That's the most I believe you guys have had in

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Speaker 1: five years. Uh so, really good first class for you.

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Speaker 1: Gotta be proud of those guys. Huh Yeah, I'm proud

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Speaker 1: of those players because they came down and competed. That's

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Speaker 1: I want to give all the credit to those players. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we had ninety three. Our tenure average over the last

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Speaker 1: year was eight three over the last ten years, so

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Speaker 1: we were up. And we hadn't had ten first rounders

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Speaker 1: since two thousand eleven, which we're really proud of. And

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Speaker 1: the big the key number there was there was fifty

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Speaker 1: six juniors and the two thousand and eleven draft, and

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Speaker 1: there was a hundred and forty four this year. So

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Speaker 1: we feel really good about the fact that you know,

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Speaker 1: a couple of those guys Montest what was probably gonna

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Speaker 1: be a first round er anyway, whether he came here

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Speaker 1: or not, and he chose to come down and compete.

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Speaker 1: And but you had a lot of guys that Kayla

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Speaker 1: McGarry and Darnell Savage and you know, Chris Lyndstrom. I

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Speaker 1: feel like a bunch of guys played their way into

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Speaker 1: that first round. So yeah, really really proud of that

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Speaker 1: class and uh uh you know, hopefully we can continue

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Speaker 1: to build on it. You know, Jim is funny, haven't

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Speaker 1: been a Senior Bowl alum. I do remember the competition

686
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Speaker 1: and how it was really a prestigious honor to be

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Speaker 1: uh invited to the Senior Bowl. And I felt like

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Speaker 1: being down there this year, I felt like some of

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Speaker 1: that was back, because it used to be the place

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Speaker 1: where the best came to compete against the best, and

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Speaker 1: I felt like this year gave us an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: see the best guys compete from the quarterbacks with Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jones and Will Greer and some of the others there.

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Speaker 1: How have you guys been able to elevate the Senior

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Speaker 1: Bowl to get more of those guys to realize and

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Speaker 1: recognize the value of competing amongst their peers. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a great question, Bucky. I think, uh, I

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Speaker 1: think there was a little bit of a mindset there

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Speaker 1: for a while that if you came down to an

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Speaker 1: All Star Game, if you came to the Senior Bowl,

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Speaker 1: you're almost saying you weren't going to be a first

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Speaker 1: or second round pick. You kind of, you know, pegg

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Speaker 1: yourself as more of a third, fourth, fifth, mid round

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Speaker 1: type player. So I really just want to shift that

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Speaker 1: mindset to Hey, to me, if you're the top player

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Speaker 1: in your position, hands down, and it's unequivocal, and your

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Speaker 1: head coach at the school is getting information from from

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Speaker 1: NFL people that that you are the number one guy

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Speaker 1: and you really have nothing to gain by coming to

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Speaker 1: the to the Senior Bowl. I completely get it, um,

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Speaker 1: And I've told agents that I won't push, I won't

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Speaker 1: push for guys that are in that category, But how

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Speaker 1: many of those are there? Really? Like even this year,

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Speaker 1: as good a player as Josh Allen was, he could

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Speaker 1: have come down here and been on the forty nine

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Speaker 1: ers roster um, you know, and they boasted and have

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Speaker 1: that opportunity and Rashallone Garry didn't have that opportunity, so

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Speaker 1: he could have been down here for a week, spending

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Speaker 1: time with that Niner staff and really you know, having

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Speaker 1: them get a good feel for him. So no, it's

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Speaker 1: it's those guys all bought in this year that if

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Speaker 1: you can even help yourself, you know, jump one guy

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Speaker 1: at your position group, how much money is at stake

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Speaker 1: it just in making that one little jump. So you know,

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Speaker 1: to have guys that probably came in here, as you know,

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Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin probably came down here. The receiver from Ohio

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Speaker 1: State probably came in as a fifth rowne pick and

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Speaker 1: left a third round pick. Titus Howard, the tackle from

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Speaker 1: Alabama State, probably came down here is a third round

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Speaker 1: pick and left a late first round pick. So the

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Speaker 1: more examples we can use that way, I think the

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Speaker 1: players are going to continue to buy in and then

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Speaker 1: get We engaged them this year on social media. UM

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Speaker 1: through through my Twitter handle, which was really uncomfortable for

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Speaker 1: me to get jumping on social media this year. UM.

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Speaker 1: Totally different ballgame than working in the NFL, but it's

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Speaker 1: something I felt like I had to do, so we

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Speaker 1: would you know, every time we were out at a game,

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Speaker 1: we were shooting videos of them and posted them on

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Speaker 1: on the website. On our on our Twitter handle, and uh,

741
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Speaker 1: you know, I just think it made a connection with

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Speaker 1: the players and it's something they responded to and hopefully,

743
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Speaker 1: hopefully we'll continue to build on that. No question, you

744
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Speaker 1: mentioned the forty nine for their first five picks came

745
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Speaker 1: from the Senior Bowl. That was pretty cool, even though

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Speaker 1: we didn't get to see Jalen heard compete. But I

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Speaker 1: did want to talk about the quarterbacks. Seven of the

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Speaker 1: eight that you had Downomobile get drafted and uh, Tyree

749
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Speaker 1: Jackson ends up signing with the Buffalo Bills and undrafted

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Speaker 1: free agent. Which of those guys do you feel like

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Speaker 1: landed in the best spot? You feel like, uh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, the best, But I would I think they

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Speaker 1: all ended in a good spot. I think Daniel Jones

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Speaker 1: and in an ideal spot with the Giants, you know,

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Speaker 1: to be able to sit behind Eli for a one

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Speaker 1: two years and they've got a great relationship. They're similar players.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Daniel is a better athlete, but they bring

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Speaker 1: a lot of the same things to the table. I

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Speaker 1: think Drew lock going to Denver is a great situation.

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Speaker 1: I know that, Uh, I mean he personally would have

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Speaker 1: been my guy if I was drafting for a team

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Speaker 1: that would have been my pick was Drew. I think

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Speaker 1: that he's got the highest upside of any of those

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Speaker 1: guys that were in this year's draft. But I know

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Speaker 1: it hurt him to fall all the way to the

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Speaker 1: second round. But to go to Denver and be surrounded

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Speaker 1: with those people and have John Elway, I think that's

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Speaker 1: a great situation for Drew as well. You know, I

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Speaker 1: want to go back to the Daniel Jones team because

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Speaker 1: I believe there's kind of misconception about Daniel Jones because people,

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Speaker 1: um obviously on our side, people get kind of tied

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Speaker 1: up with with their own picks or whatever. Talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit about what you saw from Daniel Jones the

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Speaker 1: week that you had him, uh, and why you believe

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Speaker 1: not only the gen is a great fit, but why

776
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: he could be a much better player than people are

777
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Speaker 1: giving him credit for. Yeah, I feel like the unfortunate

778
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Speaker 1: thing for Daniel was, you know, some of those quarterbacks

779
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Speaker 1: a couple of other guys were just built up so

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Speaker 1: much through the process that I think that fan base

781
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: just had their hearts that on a couple of guys,

782
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Speaker 1: and it wasn't It wasn't Daniel. But what going back

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Speaker 1: to your question, Bucky, what he showed during the week.

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Speaker 1: He got better every day, you know, And I think

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Speaker 1: that first day he was a little rattled out on

786
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Speaker 1: the field, and I think Gruden was John Gruden was

787
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Speaker 1: chewing on those guys a little bit, trying to trying

788
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Speaker 1: to get them out of their comfort zone. And you

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Speaker 1: can see that a little bit with Daniel that first

790
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Speaker 1: that first day, you know, just getting in the huddle

791
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: and spitting out verbiage and trying to command it. You know,

792
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Speaker 1: a group of guys that you've never been around. That's

793
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: a big that's a that's a tall order. And but

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Speaker 1: what you saw from Daniel was every day got a

795
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Speaker 1: little bit better. And then it culminated into the game

796
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Speaker 1: where he was the MVP and he made plays with

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Speaker 1: his legs. In the game, he made a couple of

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00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: really nice plays with his arm um. So that's all

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Speaker 1: I mean. Any of these players, Bucky, you played in

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Speaker 1: it that first day. I know as a scout when

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Speaker 1: I was working in the league that I always gave

802
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: those guys a little benefit of the doubt that first

803
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Speaker 1: day because there is anxiety, there is the nerves, and

804
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: you know, just everything's new. So that first day, I

805
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: almost gave all of them a past. But I want

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Speaker 1: to see day two, day three in practice make that

807
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: jump and then carry that onto the game. And you know,

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Speaker 1: Daniel's got size, he's a good athlete, He's got a

809
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Speaker 1: really good brain, He's extremely tough, and he's accurate. Now

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Speaker 1: does he have the arm strength that some of those

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Speaker 1: other guys did, you know, Dwayne Haskins and Drew Lock.

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Speaker 1: Now he doesn't have that kind of arm, but he's

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Speaker 1: got enough of an arm. You know. That's we always

814
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Speaker 1: use the term enough in scouting to to refer to

815
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Speaker 1: a lot of different things. But he's got enough of

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Speaker 1: an arm and he brings so many other things to

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Speaker 1: the table. Sitting behind Eli, I think, I think the

818
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: Giants will have a good player. So you mentioned a

819
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Speaker 1: couple of the guys you mentioned, Chris Lindstrom and Kayla McGarry.

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Speaker 1: Really interesting scenario here. They both come to the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 1: They end up becoming friends at the Senior Bowl. From

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Speaker 1: what I understand, they rode on the bus together, they'd

823
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Speaker 1: sit and hang out and talk and uh and then

824
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Speaker 1: they get drafted in the first round by the Atlanta

825
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: Falcons and are now lining up right next to each

826
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Speaker 1: other on the right side of the offensive line for

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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons. Um, how did you observe those two

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Speaker 1: that week and kind of how that the uniqueness of

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Speaker 1: of where they ended up now with the Falcons. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was to me working on this side with the game.

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Speaker 1: That was one of the cooler things the entire week

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Speaker 1: was seeing how that North offensive line group came together. Now,

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00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: people have to understand that was an extremely talented group.

834
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Speaker 1: I had guys in the league telling me that was

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Speaker 1: the best All Star offensive line they've they've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: So nine of the ten guys were drafted in the

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Speaker 1: third round or higher off that North team. But they

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Speaker 1: really and you saw it on the field, they really

839
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: came together. It was that practice on Wednesday out at

840
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 1: the University of South Alabama where there were some scraps

841
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Speaker 1: going on. I know L. J. Colley, or the Seattle's

842
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: first round pick from TCU, he was getting into it.

843
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: He was getting into it with those guys pretty good.

844
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Speaker 1: And to see those guys have each other's back, and

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00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: they were all walking off the practice field as a

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00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: group that day, and you could see the bonds that

847
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: were already being formed and and Uh, you know, when

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Speaker 1: you're on the scouting side, you don't see that kind

849
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Speaker 1: of stuff. So just to see that group coming together

850
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Speaker 1: in a short period of time, it's really cool. And

851
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: then the Falcons put out a great video after the

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00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: draft where Caleb and Chris were McGarry was, Caleb was

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Speaker 1: coming off the team plane and must have been one

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Speaker 1: of our at their blanks jets and and Lyndstrom's waiting

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Speaker 1: for him on the tarmac and they know, they give

856
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: each other a big bro hug, and one of them

857
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: and I couldn't tell which one, said, Man, we talked

858
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: about this at the Senior Bowl, So that was for me.

859
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: That was a really cool moment that it kind of

860
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: started for those two guys here in Mobile. So it's

861
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: funny you talk about it's starting there in Mobile. But

862
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: now that everything's gone past, we've had Senior Bowl, we've

863
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: had the Draft, how do you start getting ready for

864
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: next year? How soon is that process happen? And have

865
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: you already started the process? I see the big board

866
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: back there. Yeah, it's back there. Uh yeah, it's a

867
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: good question. We've started it and I've got a lot

868
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 1: of catch up to go. I've got two in house,

869
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: scouting assistance that have been busting their tails for about

870
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,479
Speaker 1: three months now, really from the time our game was over,

871
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 1: working on tape for next year. So we've got about

872
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: nine of the board done, probably somewhere in that area. Um,

873
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: with the FBS schools, we're gonna have a lot of

874
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: FCS stuff to do over the summer and smaller school

875
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: stuff once those names start coming in from you know,

876
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: my friends around the league that that hit me up

877
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: and help help us out with the small school guy.

878
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: But so yeah, it's an ongoing process. And really right now, UM,

879
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get jobs for our two scouting assistants

880
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: in the league right now. They've been out interviewing with

881
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: teams the last couple of weeks. The four former NFL

882
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: scouts that I had on the road this fall helping us, Uh,

883
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: two of those guys have already landed jobs with teams

884
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: and and there's two more waiting to go through that

885
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 1: interview process. So uh, really trying to overhaul the scout

886
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: of the football operation of this thing over the summer.

887
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: But I've got a ton of catch up to play

888
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 1: on this board. But I feel good we're so far

889
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: ahead of where we were last year in terms of

890
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: getting we didn't have this board up until August of

891
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 1: last year. So to have all these names is, uh,

892
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: we're at a much better starting point than we were

893
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: a year ago. You know, we Bucky and I were

894
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: having an interesting conversation on the state of the Seahawks,

895
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 1: obviously a place you both know very well, um, and

896
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: we're talking about, you know, the news the officially you know,

897
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 1: terminating the contracts of Camp Chancellor and Doug Baldwin, and

898
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: you know, kind of that being you know, two more

899
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: names from the Super Bowl era that are no longer

900
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: they're not just names. Were talking about like foundational players

901
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: right there, Jim, So, how do you kind of view

902
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: the landscape that has changed now in Seattle and what

903
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: that team looks like now? Yeah, it's been a complete overhaul.

904
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: And I think what John Schneider and Pete Carroll did

905
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: and their staff coaching and scouting to get get them

906
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: to ten wins last year in a year where they

907
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: lost Mike Bennett and lost Cliff Avril and lost Richard Sherman.

908
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: I mean, they've just lost all the cornerstones of those

909
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: Super Bowl teams. Um, but they did it. They won

910
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: ten games. Last year, and they feel really good about

911
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: this year's draft class. But you know, with Cam and Doug,

912
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: they those two guys personify that team to me on

913
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. Cam was really the quiet leader.

914
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 1: He was the guy that in the locker room guys

915
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,919
Speaker 1: really looked to. He didn't really have to say a lot.

916
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: I think he said a lot on game day, um,

917
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: and he spoke with his actions, you know, And so

918
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: he's going to be a vital piece of that thing.

919
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: I know that Cam stayed connected with the team this year.

920
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: He was on the sideline at a bunch of games.

921
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: I hope that continues because he is such a big

922
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: part of what they've done. And then Doug Baldwin, he

923
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: is he is. You talked about a team built with

924
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: guys with chips on their shoulders. He had the biggest

925
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: chip of all those guys. And the coolest thing was

926
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: he never lost it. You know. He went undrafted, made

927
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: Pro Bowls, got paid big money on a second contract,

928
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl, and that chip still stayed on

929
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: his shoulder. So UM, and what Doug has done in

930
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,439
Speaker 1: the community, I'm excited to see where Doug Baldwin goes

931
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: post playing career. He would be a guy that if

932
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: he got into politics or I mean, nothing would surprise

933
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: me if he ran a fortune. That's the kind of

934
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: guy this guy is. And if you go back to

935
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: everything that happened around the kneeling issue, and and you

936
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: know some of the anthem stuff, what some of the

937
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: smartest stuff that came out during that time was from

938
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: Doug Baldwin. I mean, he really he's a voice the

939
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: NFL should really look to um to keep involved in

940
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: the league moving forward, because he's he's just a rare

941
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: human being and uh, he's gonna really be missed on

942
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: and off the field in Seattle. You know, I can't

943
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: let you go because you are one of the few

944
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: people who has the unique perspective of seeing it from

945
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: a couple of different organizations that are kind of poll

946
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: up opposites in my mind in terms of the way

947
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: they do business. You spend the time in Seattle, but

948
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: you also spend time with the New England Patriots. When

949
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: you look at their draft and what they were able

950
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: to do it, it looked like to me they took

951
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: a bunch of brand name players from big schools that

952
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: have solid production. Is that something that is very very

953
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: common for the Patriots or was this something that is

954
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,720
Speaker 1: kind of an outlier to how they approached the draft. Well,

955
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: you know, I think, first of all, I think they

956
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: had one of the best drafts I've had in a

957
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: long time. I really thought the Patriots did a nice

958
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: job this year. I think that getting Jared's Stidham in

959
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: the fourth round from Auburn the quarterback, I think talking

960
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: about another quarterback going into a great situation, I think

961
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 1: Jared's got started potential and to be able to sit

962
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: behind Tom for a couple of years. I know that

963
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: in all my time in New England and even subsequent

964
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of players like Brian Hoyer and

965
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: Matt Castle players move on. None of those guys are

966
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: as as talented as a thrower as Jared's Stidham is.

967
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: So that's that's you know that it's a really exciting

968
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: pick for me. But you know, like you talked about

969
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: Bucky the production guys, that Chase Winovich is um from

970
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: Michigan and they they added a bunch of good football

971
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: players through the mix. And the unique thing about scouting

972
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: for Seattle is that if a guy can do one

973
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 1: thing well, you just need to bring that to the

974
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: table and explain that to the coaching staff. In in

975
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: coach Belichick better than anyone in the league. If a

976
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: guy can do one thing, well, he'll find a role

977
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: for that guy. So that was the fun part about

978
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: working there is really just hone in on what role

979
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: can this guy play for us? And you were confident

980
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: the coaching staff could get that out of them. And

981
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: I know that, you know, there's some places around the

982
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 1: league that you you can't say that about. But if

983
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: you just find that one thing, and I think that

984
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: there's staff on a bunch of guys that can can

985
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: fill rolls right away. And uh, I thought that I

986
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: thought they really nailed it this year. Well, Jim, you know,

987
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: I thought it was really cool. Also in addition to

988
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: you know, talking about the guys that you had to

989
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: get drafted, talked about some of the guys that you

990
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: wish you might have had at the Senior Bowl that

991
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: ended up going fairly high. We talked about a few

992
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: of them went to Seattle. But look, fight, Look, you know,

993
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it was your miss. I'm gonna

994
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: say it was the league's miss. Cannot believe Dan Godsil

995
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: went undrafted. Cannot believe it, Jim talking about the best

996
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 1: long snapper in football and he goes undrafted. I thought

997
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: that was a tremendous job of scouting by you little

998
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: who's your love? Yeah, we got it, we did, we did.

999
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: We had three of our four kickers draft. That's great.

1000
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: I was. I was sappy about that, but I did.

1001
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: I was hoping to staffer too. Well, look we got

1002
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: we got we gotta get better there, Yeah, we gotta

1003
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: get better. I thought you did a great job. Look, man,

1004
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: we we love watching you on TV, and we'll be

1005
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: following the social media, uh this fall, and look, I

1006
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: hope to see this summer at the Manning camp again.

1007
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: All right, I hope I get the invite. I loved

1008
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: it last year. That was that was a blast. It was,

1009
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: it was. It was great. Do you have anything else? Buck?

1010
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: You good? Now, I'm good to go. It's my guy.

1011
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: All right. We gotta bring you back. You gotta bring

1012
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: you back, Jim. Come on, yeah, well whatever, man. Hopefully uh,

1013
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: get this board finished up and we can talk about it.

1014
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: Sounds great, man, Thanks so much, Jim. We appreciate it.

1015
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: But alright, guys, thanks, I love it. Man. I felt

1016
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: like I was back in the like the Seattle Seahawks.

1017
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: Let me in. That's fun and getting a chat with

1018
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: Jim Naggy a little bit to look forward to, uh,

1019
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: seeing what he puts together for the Senior Bowl here

1020
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: coming up in UM. As we get into nineteen, let's

1021
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: talk about guys transitioning from their rookie year to their

1022
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 1: second season in the NFL. So breakout players this year,

1023
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,919
Speaker 1: uh that have their rookie year already under their belt.

1024
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: So heading into year two, let's go offensive and defensive.

1025
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: Who's the guy that you think could break out as

1026
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: a second year player on offense? Okay, So now all

1027
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: the fantasy people are gonna take me to I'm okay

1028
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: with it. At least Royce Freeman running back from the

1029
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos is one to watch. And I know Philip

1030
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: lindsay what Philip had a thousand yards and all that

1031
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: other stuff, But I'm telling you right now, Royce Freeman

1032
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: is going to be the bell co out back for

1033
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos. They want a bigger, more physical presence.

1034
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 1: Royce Freeman is going to be the runner. And based

1035
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: on the way that offense has produced thousand yard runners

1036
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: in the past. Keep an eye on Royce Freeman coming

1037
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: out of Oregon. He's big, he's physical, can guess the

1038
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 1: ball out the backfield, he can do a lot. I'm

1039
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: just hearing a major role for the Broncos, and I

1040
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if he is the starter when the

1041
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 1: season kicks off. Look, we did not plan this, Bucky.

1042
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: We did not sit out here is somebody it is not.

1043
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna stay right there in the Denver offense

1044
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna talk about Courtland Sutton a little bit. Uh.

1045
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: You know. Look, I think he's gonna have a ton

1046
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 1: of opportunities uh this year. And I think true Joe

1047
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: Flacco is really gonna love having that big body available

1048
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: to him. Um, even though they didn't get no a fan,

1049
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: and he'll be certainly a factor in the red zone.

1050
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: But look what we called him, sixty forty, not fifty fifty, right,

1051
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: jump balls are sixty forty. When when Courtland Sutton goes up,

1052
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: he had had seven ar four receiving yards last year

1053
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: as a rookie. I think I think he cracks the

1054
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: thousand yard mark this year. I think he goes for

1055
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: a k for sure, for sure, maybe maybe even doubles

1056
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: up on the touchdowns from four to eight. Let's go,

1057
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: come on and the house really, really the house. I

1058
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: can't go into Mustangs, but I can't go with a

1059
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 1: bucket who was playing in his home state. How about

1060
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: Sam Hubbard fananti Bengals. That was I too, love the

1061
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: same page about him. Sam Sambard has six sex last year.

1062
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: But I believe they got a still in the draft

1063
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: a year ago when they got him. He's athletic, he's explosive,

1064
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: he is technically sound, and playing in a new defense.

1065
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: I think he gets more opportunities. I think it gets

1066
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: a chance to start year two. I think he gets

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Speaker 1: double digit sacks and becomes a guy that we talked

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Speaker 1: about his a household name as a pass rush I think, uh,

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Speaker 1: I think that's a terrific pick right there, as Sam

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Speaker 1: Hubbard and uh, I'm owing. I'm going to give you

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Speaker 1: another one first round pick from last year for the

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Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. Look at you, so you know Brian Flores

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Speaker 1: comes over from New England, um where you know. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying they're the same player, But Devin mccordy was,

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Speaker 1: I mean a foundational player for the Patriots for the

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Speaker 1: last nine years, and I think he knows what kind

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Speaker 1: of impact a player like that for your defense can be.

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Speaker 1: And I think Manka Fitzpatrick, you know, in even if

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Speaker 1: they're not playing the exact same style, um you know,

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Speaker 1: as a safety, but I just I feel like he's

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Speaker 1: got an opportunity to really be a guy that that

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Speaker 1: they looked to as a cornerstone there on defense, and

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Speaker 1: he played really well last year, I felt like for

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Speaker 1: the most part as well. So I'm gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: I didn't think mink Of Fitzpatrick could have a breakout

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Speaker 1: season in second year, but his first with Brian Flores

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Speaker 1: as the head coach. I think there are a couple

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Speaker 1: of names with Brian Floores and what you know about

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Speaker 1: him and based on his experience in New England. They

1090
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Speaker 1: like smart players. They're like versu players, players that they

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Speaker 1: can kind of use in a variety of different ways

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Speaker 1: each and every week based on what they need in

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Speaker 1: the game plan. Mika fits Patrick is a guy that

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Speaker 1: can play corner, he can play nicole, He can play safety,

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Speaker 1: both safeties meeting free or strong in the box or deep,

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Speaker 1: and so he gives them a lot of variety and versatility.

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Speaker 1: So I can see him breaking out as they begin

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Speaker 1: to build his defense around the talents of their best players. Well,

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Speaker 1: there it is breakout sophomores, and that is gonna do

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Speaker 1: it for us on this edition and the Move the

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Speaker 1: Sticks podcast here. If I'm getting to talk with Jim Naggy,

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Speaker 1: appreciate him hanging out with us. Uh And we are

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Speaker 1: back next week as well. Of course, We've got a

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Speaker 1: ton of YouTube content out there for you. We'll have

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Speaker 1: some uh, some more interesting YouTube content coming up here

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Speaker 1: that I think you're really gonna like that relates to

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Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch that'll be coming soon. And then of course

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Speaker 1: download Move the Six podcast iTunes wherever you watch, download,

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Speaker 1: subscribe and leave a review. And we're always NFL dot

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Speaker 1: com slash podcast. Were you off to next buck? What

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Speaker 1: do you what? Do you got anything else coming up?

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Speaker 1: I'm just hanging. I'm just hanging. I think, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm just coaching too high school? Come on, man, what's

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Speaker 1: we get some more workouts going on yet? Or we

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Speaker 1: we got we got some workouts in the middle of

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Speaker 1: spring ball. So we're in the middle spring ball. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're in the middle spring ball. We're trying we're trying

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Speaker 1: to get it trying to get it. Okay, get together, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you get it together. So but it's a lot of fun,

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun. But look, man, just just trying

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Speaker 1: to spin ahead and' gonna start looking at some of

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Speaker 1: the twenty prospects and yeah, that stuff so be fun.

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Speaker 1: What about you? What what we got going on? I

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Speaker 1: got a little Um. I'll be back later this week

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Speaker 1: for a little total access. Um. Oh, we happened to

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Speaker 1: that long vacation. Maybe July. Maybe July will get a

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Speaker 1: little bit all vacation. Yeah, yeah, maybe we'll do that then.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, um, but uh yeah, I'll be back

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Speaker 1: in here next week with DJ Believe, because that you

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Speaker 1: get a breather a little, a little week gona take

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Speaker 1: some time. Hey, thanks for hanging out with us here today.

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Speaker 1: We'll catch you next week. I'm with the six Podcast.