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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty and he.

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Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty.

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Speaker 3: There's some folks in the legislature and they're true believers.

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Speaker 3: For whatever reason, they don't want anybody held accountable to

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Speaker 3: go to a county jailer prison. And that's what we're

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Speaker 3: dealing with with some folks in California.

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Speaker 4: Sheriff Jim Cooper, longtime friend of the Armstrong and Getty Show.

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Speaker 4: He's the sheriff of Sacramento County in California. He's talking

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Speaker 4: about the progressive governance of California and how it's many

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Speaker 4: to say soft on crime is to really not describe

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Speaker 4: it properly. The policies are, don't jail anybody, because that's

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Speaker 4: part of capitalist depression.

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Speaker 1: I almost can't talk about this subject because it makes

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Speaker 1: me so angry.

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Speaker 2: And worried.

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Speaker 1: Actually, since my family, when my kids were little, we

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Speaker 1: were verbally assaulted by a guy that should have been

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Speaker 1: in prison because of all the crimes he had committed.

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Speaker 1: He ended up back in prison because of what he

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Speaker 1: said to me, and my family left all that story

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Speaker 1: million times. I thought I was quite possibly going to

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Speaker 1: die in a knife or gunfight with the guy. But

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Speaker 1: he should have been in jail a long time ago.

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Speaker 1: And when I called the cops, I'll never forget this.

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Speaker 1: When I called the cops, the first cop I talked

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Speaker 1: to said, you know, what's really a tragedy is that

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Speaker 1: we don't have someplace we can put this guy so

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Speaker 1: we could get the mental.

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Speaker 2: Oh, is that the tragedy?

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Speaker 1: As my kids are crying behind me, I thought they

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Speaker 1: were going to die like ten minutes ago, and the

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Speaker 1: cop tells me the real tragedy is that the guy

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Speaker 1: doesn't have someplace he can go to get more help.

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Speaker 1: He's a criminal, he's been a criminal, he's advocated a criminally,

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Speaker 1: he'd done all kinds of horrible things.

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Speaker 2: He should have been in jail. Right.

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Speaker 1: These people are nuts and they're gonna get more people killed.

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Speaker 1: And Sheriff Cooper, in that same interview with the excellent

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Speaker 1: Ashley Zavalla, points out that when there are like mental

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Speaker 1: health diversion programs that are not funded because they don't

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Speaker 1: believe in putting anybody behind bars anyway, I thought this

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Speaker 1: was so interesting that that's why I've decided that socialism

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Speaker 1: is a mental illness. It's an actual mental illness, because

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Speaker 1: it doesn't make any sense. You can't you can't make.

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Speaker 1: You know, there are all kinds of political policy differences

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Speaker 1: you can have with people, but you can understand their argument.

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Speaker 1: This doesn't make any.

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Speaker 4: Sense, right, right, You have to suck down the delicious

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Speaker 4: kool aid of the Marxist cult really to pretend, because

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Speaker 4: it's so clearly what they are advocating is so clearly

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Speaker 4: counter to what we all recognize about reality and humanity,

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Speaker 4: which is why really socialism works best on the young

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Speaker 4: and stupid people. But Charles Lehman wrote a great piece

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Speaker 4: for The Dispatch a while back entitled why don't we

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Speaker 4: lock up repeat offenders? And it starts Jack with a

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Speaker 4: disturbingly similar situation.

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Speaker 2: Of your own.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't long ago that police charged Hector day lay On,

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Speaker 4: an immeral and emotionally disturbed and homeost fifty one year old,

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Speaker 4: with slashing six New Yorkers in an unprovoked attack at

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Speaker 4: Penn Station in New York. Day lay one is a

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Speaker 4: vibrant criminal history. Another slashing committed in Newark, New Jersey,

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Speaker 4: four years ago, right across the river. And six other priorists,

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Speaker 4: including aggravated assault, unlawful possession of a weapon, user possession

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Speaker 4: of drugs, assault, domestic assault, and criminal mischief.

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Speaker 2: And caspital that's why he did that? Oh for good

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Speaker 2: or global warming? Climate change? Did you see? I shouldn't

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Speaker 2: get off on this tangent. I really shouldn't.

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Speaker 4: National Geographic is trying to and and they've been captured

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Speaker 4: by the progressives, like a lot of so called scientific institutions,

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Speaker 4: trying to pitch the idea that uh selling girls off

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Speaker 4: his child brides in Muslim countries is because of climate change.

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Speaker 4: It's not because of their perverse culture or sick view

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Speaker 2: No, it's climate change. Unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: We got to do some of the writing around that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there will be plenty of time. That will

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Speaker 4: still be a problem in a year and a decade anyway.

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Speaker 4: So Laman asked the obvious question, why was a violent

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Speaker 4: criminal with a string of priors, a history of deranged

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Speaker 4: behaviors on the street, Why wasn't he locked up in

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Speaker 4: a prisoner or a mental health facility or something, And

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Speaker 4: why do such people seem to cause so much of

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Speaker 4: our crime problems, and this is and I think this

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Speaker 4: is probably not necessary for a lot of you, but

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Speaker 4: this is an absolute, ironclad.

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Speaker 2: Illustration of how idiotic the we.

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Speaker 4: Can't incarcerate our way out of the social problems we have.

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Speaker 1: Oh, this is about capitalism. No, it's about a few

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Speaker 1: people who victim others. They are predators.

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Speaker 4: Every cop we've ever talked to done a ride along

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Speaker 4: with says the same thing. I spend ninety percent of

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Speaker 4: my time babysitting three percent of the population. Well, that's

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Speaker 4: not quite the percentage that some of the scientists come

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Speaker 4: up with, but frequent offenders drive a massive share of crime.

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Speaker 4: It's one of the most well established findings in criminology.

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Speaker 2: It's undeniable.

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Speaker 4: But it turns out that in many states and cases,

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Speaker 4: our criminal justicism isn't designed with that reality in mind.

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Speaker 4: So people like de Leone can keep offending in slashing.

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Speaker 4: Can you imagine you get sliced open? I mean when

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Speaker 4: people don't die. I think other people underestimate how horrible

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Speaker 4: it is what happened. Oh thank god he is expected

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Speaker 4: to recover. Oh, please think about it for a minute.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to dwell on it, because it's horrifying,

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Speaker 4: But you wouldn't sleep right for months. Oh, you'd be

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Speaker 4: disfigured for life. You'd be dealing with medical treatments and

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Speaker 1: And got that part the PTSD of like being out

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Speaker 4: Ever again, well you can speak to that somebody with

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Speaker 4: wild eyes approaches you quickly. Can you imagine the horror,

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Speaker 4: the utter terror that would cause for maybe the rest

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Speaker 4: of your life. Anyway, So the daily owners of the

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Speaker 4: is if we go back to sanity, we have a

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Speaker 4: great opportunity to bring crime under control again, because we've

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Speaker 4: done it more than once. That a few offenders commit

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Speaker 4: most of the crime is the closest thing we have

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Speaker 4: to an iron law of criminology. Offending follows what social

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Speaker 4: scientists call a Pareto distribution, or the eighty twenty rule,

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Speaker 4: and this is at least eighty percent of crime is

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Speaker 4: committed by at most twenty percent of the offenders, and

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Speaker 4: the true concentration is probably greater than that. One systematic

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Speaker 4: review a few years ago found that ten percent of

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Speaker 4: the population that is most criminally active accounts for sixty

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Speaker 2: Average ten I could believe.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe twenty percent of people are out there

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's not a new finding. I mean, they

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Speaker 4: did a giant study following a cohort of nearly ten

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Speaker 4: that six percent of the boys were responsible for roughly

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Speaker 4: half of all police contacts observed.

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Speaker 2: Same.

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Speaker 4: Oh, in Sweden, two point four million Swedes found that

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Speaker 4: just one percent were responsible for sixty three percent of

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Speaker 2: I absolutely believe that, And do you want more?

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Speaker 4: Most gun violence is highly concentrated in tight social networks,

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Speaker 4: a phenomenon that's shown up in Baltimore, Boston, Washington, Chicago,

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Speaker 4: San Francisco, and Oakland, et cetera. It's gangbangers almost exclusively

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Speaker 4: who commit crimes. One of the reasons you might think

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Speaker 4: generally not white people. And for the idiotic, woke reasons

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Speaker 4: So if white guy goes crazy is available, they amplify

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Speaker 4: that like crazy and to be shot is to be shot.

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Speaker 4: I'm not in favor of that, but you know the

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Speaker 4: point I'm trying to make. But so why does this happen?

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Speaker 4: Simple answer is the life of crime is the product

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Speaker 4: of many different rare events, and well.

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Speaker 2: They go into it.

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Speaker 4: Frequent shooters, for example, tend to occur only in environments

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Speaker 4: with a lot of well armed young men with little

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Speaker 2: There's hard looking and to shoot you. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Frequent shoplifters tend to be seriously mentally ill and or

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Speaker 4: addicted to drugs, and also have frequent opportunities to shoplift

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Speaker 4: peer groups, family, environment, and genes also play a role.

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Speaker 4: In short, a lot of things have gone wrong for

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Speaker 4: someone to become I'm a frequent offender, so most people don't.

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Speaker 4: But if you have a frequent offender, they're going to

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Speaker 2: It's as close, as.

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Speaker 1: He said, to an iron law of criminology as exists.

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Speaker 1: Lock them up, lock him up, and force theaw law.

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Speaker 1: Got so frustrated. Actually, this happens to me a lot

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Speaker 4: Right, And you know Jim Cooper in that interview, one

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Speaker 4: the audio of it, but he said, look, we've got

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Speaker 2: Saying that, Yes, this is exactly right.

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Speaker 4: Brings us to your point about when lawlessness is observed

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Speaker 4: and lawlessness is not punished, people decide lawlessness is okay.

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Speaker 4: North Carolina, which is an absolutely lovely place. Raleig Durham

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Speaker 4: What followed was a night marred by or disorder and

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Speaker 4: violence when the police say left nine people injured by gunfire,

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Speaker 4: coverage of overflowing sidewalks and streets, shouting and cursing, sirens

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Speaker 4: criminal acts. Where did that come from? The intent? The lawlessness? Well,

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Speaker 4: I'm asking y'all or Jack or Michael or anybody else?

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Speaker 6: The lead is that the President posted that the blockade

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Speaker 4: Let me respond to the Iranian spokesperson there, it's international water, bitches,

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Speaker 2: Praise be to Allah. President Donald J. Trump. Wow, that

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Speaker 1: I really think that, I really think that's true. I

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Speaker 2: Completely over.

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Speaker 4: So it turned out to be completely ineffective. That's funny

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Speaker 4: because there were only eighty four signs that that was true.

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Speaker 1: And only everybody was saying that, from Fox to you know, MSNBC, right.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to say about that other than

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Speaker 1: I hope it was Trump just like going to the

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Speaker 1: saying today. He said, we're reinstating the Iranian blockade, so

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Speaker 1: named because it's only stopping Iran's ships or customers from

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Speaker 1: entering or leaving. All other countries will have fair and

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Speaker 1: open use of the strait, except we just said we're

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Speaker 1: gonna charge a twenty percent toll. The USA will be

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Speaker 1: from this point forward known as the Guardian of the

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Speaker 1: Horror Moo Strait. It's like the name of a movie

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Speaker 1: we will be reimbursed at the rate of twenty percent

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Speaker 1: on all cargo shipped for any and all costs necessary

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Speaker 1: to do the job of providing safety and security to

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Speaker 1: this very volatile section of the world.

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Speaker 4: That too is also quite Trumpian, but I get it. Yes,

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Speaker 4: we will be the world's policeman, but it's expensive.

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Speaker 2: You gotta help.

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Speaker 1: Us the job of providing safety and security to this

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Speaker 1: very volatile section of the world. The process in formation

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Speaker 1: will begin immediately. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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Speaker 1: So he's saying, right now, straight is open, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: make sure boats get through there. We're charging you a

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Speaker 1: twenty percent toll. Now, of course, the UH people that

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Speaker 1: before you attacked Iran, we set ships through there all

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Speaker 1: the time. Didn't cost us nothing. It was open and

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Speaker 1: it was free. Yeah, what are you gonna do? Omelets, eggs,

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Speaker 1: et cetera. Iran is not going to whether it's on

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Speaker 1: on ships not spend my question for a week? One

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Speaker 2: He writes for The Wall Street Journal.

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Speaker 4: These days, the musically named Yaroslav Trofimov, terrific writer he says,

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Speaker 4: playing a long game. Irani officials believe the country has

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Speaker 2: That would be eighty four Michael.

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Speaker 8: Fact of the matter is the Iranians generally only respond

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Speaker 8: talking about regime change here. What we're talking about is

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Speaker 8: modifying the views and actions of an extreme, hard, hard

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Speaker 8: line regime. That is possible. We have the capability to

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Speaker 8: do that. That capability is resident in the US military.

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Speaker 8: Should the President elect to employ it. That would include

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Speaker 8: as an aside, that's something we should think about doing

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Speaker 8: because possession of Iranian soil would be a significant factor

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Speaker 8: in future negotiations with Iran. So all those options are

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Speaker 8: on the table. I'm not sure where we're going to

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Speaker 8: go with this, but I do know we have these capabilities.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why military guys use you talk the

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Speaker 1: way they talk. The are something our word, something to

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Speaker 1: do that exists with the president and is complicity.

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Speaker 2: So we have the capabilities. What you're saying we can,

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Speaker 2: we can.

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Speaker 1: And John Bolton, former National Security advisor to Trump in

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Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal today on why we need to

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Speaker 1: open the straight take Carg Island New York Times, making

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Speaker 1: the argument that's the only card we have left to play.

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Speaker 1: You got the former Centcom commander saying that Trump is

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Speaker 1: saying the strait is open. Unless you want to really

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Speaker 1: embarrass yourself on the world stage. You better mean that

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Speaker 1: and make it be open. And we're about to he

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Speaker 1: needs to go on TV tonight, I think, and prepare

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Speaker 1: the American people for casualties.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, starting with what you were elucidating, what are the

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Speaker 4: stakes here? It's all about Iran getting a nuclear weapon.

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Speaker 4: That's how this all started. Well, you know, I was

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Speaker 4: about to say the other card we could play is

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Speaker 4: blowing more beards off. But as Bolton makes a really

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Speaker 4: interesting point in his piece, that part of the problem

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Speaker 4: we're having right now is we so successfully decapitated the

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Speaker 4: regime that what we have now is not anything like

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Speaker 4: a flow chart. We've got a series of quote unquote

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Speaker 4: heads of authority with various kinds of clout and vulnerability.

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Speaker 4: They're competing for power, but none can consistently dominate or

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Speaker 4: run the show. And so was that a rogue element

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Speaker 4: or so that fired on those ships?

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe not.

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Speaker 4: Maybe they were best frenzies with the civilian guys last week,

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Speaker 4: but now they've split this week. Nobody's sure. So boy again,

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Speaker 4: you'd love to blow a few more beards off, But

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Speaker 4: would that make it even more difficult to do? You

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Speaker 4: have to, in essence, let their leadership coalesce for a

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Speaker 4: while to get peace.

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Speaker 2: It's a conundrum. Well, I don't know if I believe that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I believe it's rogue element.

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Speaker 2: Well that's I'm just saying it's difficult to know.

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Speaker 1: Sure, congratulations everybody, were all part of being the guard.

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Speaker 1: Do you know the strait of our moves? Do if

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Speaker 1: we get a patch to wear hats? It's a responsibility

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Speaker 1: I take seriously, does he mean it? Trump's willing to

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Speaker 1: say really strong things and then completely walk away from them.

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Speaker 4: I'm a betting man, and although I did not set

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Speaker 4: foot in a casino during my vacation, though there were

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Speaker 4: a few.

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Speaker 2: On the boat in Alaska, there actually was one on

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Speaker 2: the boat. It was small, but I wasn't feeling it.

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Speaker 4: But as a betting man, generally, I think this time

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Speaker 4: he means it. He understands that his credibility is on

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Speaker 4: the line in a way that it hasn't been before.

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Speaker 4: And you will see forceful, forceful steps taken to at

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Speaker 4: least defang the IRGC's ability to threaten shipping.

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Speaker 2: Whether it'll be successful or not.

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Speaker 1: As difficult to say because it's not hard to shoot

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Speaker 1: a missile at a ship.

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Speaker 2: Ballistic missiles.

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Speaker 1: They've got over a thousand of them left, according to

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Speaker 1: the latest reports. So they got the lady to fight back.

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Speaker 1: We are gonna lose soldiers, and I think Trump needs

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Speaker 1: to prepare people for that. Do you have any thoughts

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Speaker 1: on that? Text line four one five two nine five KFTC.

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Speaker 1: Trump just announced he wants Lindsey Graham's sister to be

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Speaker 1: November to fill in I'm more in fair. I don't

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Speaker 1: know anything about Lindsay Graham's sister. She might be fantastic, she.

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Speaker 2: Might be a monster. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But Tim Scott, the other Senator from South Carolina who

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Speaker 1: we like, threw his support behind Trey Goudy to finish

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Speaker 4: Of that love Trey Goudy happened to watch his Sunday

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Speaker 4: Night in America last night as he talked to Tim

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Speaker 2: Care of your order and it will take care of you.

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Speaker 2: That's a good point.

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Speaker 4: So next hour, forty two percent of statistics are in valid,

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Speaker 4: One of the most cited discussed statistics in the last

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Speaker 2: Wait till I tell you what's probably the reason for that.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'd like to hear that because, and I know

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Speaker 1: this is anecdotal, completely anecdotable.

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Speaker 2: I was in Vegas for three days. Town was packed.

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Speaker 1: And with people that don't look wealthy walk in the streets,

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Speaker 1: But you'd think you'd notice a downturn.

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Speaker 2: You would sure think so. And again this didn't look

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Speaker 4: of the writers at the New York Post. If you're

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Speaker 4: following the trial of the confused young man who assassinated

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Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk, it is exploding absolutely every stupid effing Candace

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Speaker 4: Owen's conspiracy theory piece of crap that's been flying around onlines.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely it should be ending them. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, the two interesting things that happened if you didn't

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Speaker 1: catch him while you're in Alaska. The trans boyfriend girlfriend

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Speaker 1: whatever he was apparently changed his mind because he was

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Speaker 1: there using his original male name and wearing a suit

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Speaker 1: and tie.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know how can but his convictions were

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Speaker 2: on that lifestyle. And then the killer.

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Speaker 1: Then this happened so often, just horrible. Immediately after he

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Speaker 1: did it, he told his trans boyfriend girlfriend he wished

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Speaker 1: he hadn't right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a terrible mistake. Oh my god, what

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Speaker 4: have I done. I'm going to turn myself in. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and the idea that well, and the conspiracy grifters will

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Speaker 4: come up with explanations how the Jews made him.

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Speaker 2: He was Eric Katsy.

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Speaker 4: He was fooled Erica blah blah blah, the whole cottage

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Speaker 4: industry of like trying to exploit Erica Kirk's grief for

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Speaker 4: fun and profit. These people ought to be lined up

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Speaker 4: against the wall and shot literally. I abhore violence, but

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Speaker 4: I know sometimes I think about it anyway more to

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Speaker 4: come armstrong and getty