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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Mick

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Speaker 1: Shots streaming live on dallascowboys dot Com and the official

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys have now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves,

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Speaker 1: and Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 2: Everything has been voluntary until now. Now it's mandatory mini

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Speaker 2: camp week here at the Star in Frisco, and this

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Speaker 2: is a mandatory edition of mix Shots.

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Speaker 3: Good get everybody showed up.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and showed up early.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Everson was walking down the hall three minutes before the start.

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Speaker 3: I was in here ten minutes before.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 2: And uh, we're getting your for mandatory mini camp which

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Speaker 2: commences tomorrow. There are there's no football equipment on the

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Speaker 2: football field today here at the Stars.

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Speaker 3: I wonder if they'll do some strength and conditioning today.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's nothing nothing on the.

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Speaker 3: Field right now, but the rehab guys will be out there.

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Speaker 2: The mini camp starts tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 2: And apparently it looks like this will be the first

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Speaker 2: to report that the Star and Frisco survived the elements

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Speaker 2: last night.

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Speaker 3: Did everybody survive?

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Speaker 4: We did? Everybody's fine. I love it.

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Speaker 2: My show on CBS eleven did not survive.

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Speaker 4: I wis.

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Speaker 2: Because it was all weather.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, from nine.

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Speaker 2: Actually we had the Tony Awards until ten after ten,

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Speaker 2: and I went to the weather people at seven o'clock

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Speaker 2: and I said, do I need to put this show

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Speaker 2: together because it takes believe it or not, it takes

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Speaker 2: three hours or so the right and produce the home show.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, I'm looking at the forecast and

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Speaker 2: I can see it's going to be bearing down on

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Speaker 2: Dallas or starting at ten o'clock.

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Speaker 4: Is there any the clouds are coming on the radar

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Speaker 4: you can't miss.

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Speaker 2: I mean there's two systems that are just coming from

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Speaker 2: the west, and the red and green and even at

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Speaker 2: seven o'clock just got blown off the map. Now there's

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Speaker 2: no way people want to hear how the Rangers.

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Speaker 4: Lied blue on the map.

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Speaker 3: Yeahs blue blue was eighty mile an hour.

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Speaker 4: Wow, yeah, I know.

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Speaker 2: And then weather, okay, and so the weather, oh no,

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Speaker 2: I can't tell you for sure, we don't know. It

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Speaker 2: hasn't really formed yet. So I two and a half

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Speaker 2: hours later, I write the entire show and it's nine

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Speaker 2: thirty whatever, and then it's like a never before uttered

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Speaker 2: phrase from the National Weather Surface potential one hundred mile

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Speaker 2: per hour winds, and even the competitor, Pete Delkis said that, Well,

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Speaker 2: I don't believe I've ever heard him say that before.

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Speaker 2: And we still had to stable ten fifty last night.

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Speaker 4: Pete has too good of a time during weather. Okay,

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Speaker 4: that's his problem. He has too good of a time.

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Speaker 3: I was already counting how many trees were they were

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Speaker 3: going to fall.

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Speaker 2: In my backyard. Well, and then I was able to

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Speaker 2: get out of there before the next system hit from

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Speaker 2: the west that was blowing Alito off the map, and

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Speaker 2: it was barely a drizzle driving home and it was

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Speaker 2: no problem.

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Speaker 3: Well, I saw someone called in and reported that they

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Speaker 3: were and it's just somebody right that we're getting one

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Speaker 3: to two inches of rain an hour, and I'm going

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Speaker 3: it hasn't rained here for an hour yet.

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Speaker 4: So where you live north of Flower Mount and sounds

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Speaker 4: like so, see those are the white flight you know,

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Speaker 4: nobody is. I know, it was just some good rain.

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Speaker 4: You know, we just had a nice rain.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's like an attorney. He knew the answers

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Speaker 2: to the Christ.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just to deliver his life.

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Speaker 4: Guys out there. Weather has no forgiveness out there. Okay,

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Speaker 4: in the city. You know, every time you see the

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Speaker 4: dissipates just a little bit because there's human life there.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of life.

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Speaker 2: You know that there is something truth, no doubt that

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Speaker 4: There's no interference, and it just.

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Speaker 2: Blows seriously in West Texas. I mean it just blows.

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Speaker 2: That's why there's nothing in West Texas. Everything's been blown

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Speaker 2: off the map out there. But it's something about civilization

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Speaker 2: that makes him dissiplate just a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Try just a little bit. You can see it as

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Speaker 4: it gets towards the city.

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Speaker 2: It just yeah, it's a little dark to breaking apart.

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Speaker 4: So you guys have a good time about it. I

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Speaker 2: Concerned about hell Down.

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Speaker 3: We have fifty six houses in our Yeah, that's.

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Speaker 4: What you were about out there, too, was hell Down.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to get and I had my map. I

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Speaker 2: had it all mapped out. Northeast Mall has a parking

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Speaker 2: garage on the way home. I was going to park

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Speaker 2: here and wait it out at the parking garage. Didn't

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Speaker 2: have to do it all right, So now, enough about

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Speaker 2: what happened last night. Enough about last night. Now it's

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Speaker 2: a beautiful day.

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Speaker 3: It is for now. You're at the Star and Fir

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Speaker 3: until it starts ringing again tomorrow for the mini camp.

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Speaker 2: Will probably be in there indoors. Well, there's a beautiful

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Speaker 3: And I think graduations are done, so that's out of

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Speaker 3: the way. There's no excuse.

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Speaker 2: I mean, get a load of this. It is now

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Speaker 2: less than six weeks away from the Cowboys getting on

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Speaker 2: that big jet plane and flying out to Oxnard, California.

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Speaker 2: Just to put it in perspective, it's six weeks time

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Speaker 2: from this past year. From January first until when the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl was played was six weeks time this year,

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Speaker 2: and so we're basically at We just have a playoff

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Speaker 2: season to get before before we're starting training camp on

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Speaker 2: the July twentieth.

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Speaker 3: So will you be here tomorrow? Since it's mandatory to

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Speaker 3: take attendance.

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Speaker 2: I take everyone should be right.

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Speaker 3: Take attendance.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh?

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Speaker 3: And does that mean the two guys that haven't been

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Speaker 2: I know one of them will be. You do, I

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Speaker 2: don't know? Okay, you're going to put money on it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he said he'd be here. Well, how many he's going

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Speaker 2: He's going to be here, yeah, michaeh yeah, Micah here.

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Speaker 2: He said he's never missed a mandatory many.

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Speaker 3: Well, he was here last week. He just showed up

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Speaker 3: in the locker room when it was when everything was

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Speaker 4: So so he may he may be here, but not

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Speaker 3: He was here for media day obligation, and then he

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Speaker 2: Oh you want to be in there with Oka. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he's a veteran, right, we all understand this. When Mickey talks,

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Speaker 2: he's talking in terms of the mess.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so whenever when he says when everyone was dismissed,

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Speaker 2: that's when the media was dismissed from the locker room,

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Speaker 2: That's when Michael walked.

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Speaker 4: You have to clarify because.

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Speaker 3: I was the last one of us to be important people.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 3: So we'll see on that one. And then Trayvon Diggs,

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Speaker 3: I guess he told them he'd be here.

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Speaker 4: Way. Vicky said that Vicky found very passive mission, very passive.

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Speaker 3: The guy had a serious knee surgery, right, something I've

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Speaker 3: never heard of before, Crondall tissue graph, meaning they took

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Speaker 3: a piece of bone in cartilage and transplaneted into a

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Speaker 3: divot in his knee. So it was explained to me, like,

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Speaker 3: you know, you have potholes on the street, Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: we fill it in with tar. Well, that's what this is,

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Speaker 3: real gag, right, and to me that sounds pretty serious.

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Speaker 4: Well, hell, you're looking at two of the weirdest injuries

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Speaker 4: from your quarterback and you're starting cornerback. Right, I've never

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Speaker 4: heard of either one of these injuries or surgeries before.

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Speaker 3: Well the quarterbacks here, yeah, rehabby Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I was really speaking on them. Yes, uniqueness, Yes, of

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Speaker 4: the injuries themselves.

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Speaker 3: The other guy did it on his own. And I

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Speaker 3: also was told a couple of weeks ago I almost

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Speaker 3: forgot about it that if he didn't take part in

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Speaker 3: eighty four percent of the off season workouts, he would

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Speaker 3: have a five hundred thousand dollars base salary de escalate.

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Speaker 3: So to you tell me, if you had a chance

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Speaker 3: at five hundred not to lose five hundred thousand, but

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Speaker 3: you have to show up for off season workouts.

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Speaker 4: Now, does that include injuries when you're talking about coming

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Speaker 4: off of surgery. When they put that in, did that include.

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Speaker 3: No, the rehab. I guess it's stipulated that if you're

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Speaker 3: doing rehab, it had to be under the jurisdiction of

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Speaker 3: the head trainer. Oh okay, Now I don't know if

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Speaker 3: that includes monitory from the fire and look, as we

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Speaker 4: He could just be doing everything on on YouTube or whatever,

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Speaker 4: or just sending it.

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Speaker 3: And sending it in. Yeah, well they're monitored live.

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Speaker 4: It would be monitored live. Well, and hey, I'm just

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Speaker 4: Devil's advocate here. Yeah, we'll find out. Yeah, we will.

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Speaker 5: And And.

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Speaker 3: In my mind, if I'm working for you and you

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Speaker 3: tell me I need to do this and I'm not here,

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Speaker 3: I probably get rated out right. But if I'm paying

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Speaker 3: you to rehab me and I wake up on Monday

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Speaker 3: morning going, you know, I I think I'll take today off,

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Speaker 3: what are you going to say? Yeah, okay, well you're

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Speaker 3: paying me, I'm not going to create. No, You've got

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Speaker 3: to be here. So that's the thing that I think

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Speaker 3: of situation he's in when they get a chance to

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Speaker 4: And once again, we're not sure if he's showing up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he said he was, and it's mandatory and they

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Speaker 3: have the right to find you. Did you ever get

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Speaker 3: fined for missing the workout?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Were you pleased?

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Speaker 4: Well no, I just you know, it all came down

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Speaker 4: to it when we renegotiated. It all came out in

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Speaker 4: the West.

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Speaker 3: So it had to do with contracts. Same thing as

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Speaker 3: Mike exactly. The players hold other guys like if you

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Speaker 3: see a guy missing, I'm out here working.

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Speaker 4: I hope not. I never much participated in offseason at all.

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Speaker 4: I tried to stick with the that made me, that

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Speaker 4: help helped me develop through Grambling and you know, on

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Speaker 4: the league.

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Speaker 3: But your reasons were different than these offseasons.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah they weren't. They weren't mandatory at all.

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Speaker 3: None of them.

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Speaker 4: No, none of them mandatory. I don't think you had

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Speaker 4: to work out one bit. I only had twelve workouts

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Speaker 4: aalibn eligible or forty five. But they offered it incentives

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Speaker 4: if you did make them all. I remember Bob Brunnick

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Speaker 4: and and Ron Springs were going for first place. I

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Speaker 4: think it was nineteen eighty three, and Ron was upset

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Speaker 4: because they gave the watch. They was going to get

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Speaker 4: this Rolex watch. They gave it to Bob Brunick and

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Speaker 2: It's hard to pull a muscle if you don't have

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Speaker 4: That is a very good point. Also, never really ran track.

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Speaker 3: I think it's fifty eight right around fifty eight thousand games.

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Speaker 4: And no one's giving us a progress.

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Speaker 3: Well, we'll get a better one, I think this week.

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Speaker 4: Okay, But do you think that they have a Probably.

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Speaker 3: Think they in their mind since they don't know much

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Speaker 4: You think they have no idea where he is, right?

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Speaker 3: I think they have an idea because I in Miami.

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Speaker 3: They've been in contact with the people that he's working

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Speaker 2: I wish they knew better would be sitting here at well, here.

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Speaker 3: Are his Okay, for five interceptions, it's worth three hundred thousand,

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Speaker 3: Not cumative like you get paid for five and seven,

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Speaker 2: And what was his penalty for not being here this offseason?

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Speaker 2: Five hundred thousand you said, could be dscal He just

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Speaker 3: But you got to play to get right, you got

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Speaker 4: Now as you bring that up, though, now we've got

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Speaker 2: Not to go about to bring up, but JayR Alexander

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Speaker 3: And those are the guys here, and there's guys that

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Speaker 2: At cornerback O eight yeah, but they have here, yes,

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Speaker 3: And we can point out that Jordan Lewis isn't here

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Speaker 4: And before the meet and Greek that we had last week,

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Speaker 2: Uh oh yeah, okay, So but but you talk about it,

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Speaker 3: Fourteen, the last thirty four right, and his salary this

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Speaker 4: It was, so there was and that's why he did

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Speaker 2: And especially he's a guy that last year seven games

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Speaker 3: It suspended one game. Do you remember that he got suspended.

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Speaker 3: now are you saying you're deferring? And I guess somebody

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Speaker 3: So they suspended him one game.

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Speaker 2: I mean they avoided that.

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Speaker 2: They were able to correct it on the field.

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Speaker 4: See bring that guy here, he's fun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: We already brought fun guys.

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Speaker 3: I saw two headache guys get arrested this weekend. Who

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Speaker 2: Here I heard kell and Kelvin Joseph, by the way,

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Speaker 2: Friday night. Yes, they had a game yesterday that he

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Speaker 2: Actually they won their game yesterday and so now they're

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Speaker 3: Somebody finally did so.

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Speaker 2: But here here's he's playing and trying to salvage his

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Speaker 2: some Michigan played at Birmingham.

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Speaker 3: Somebody only beat Birmingham.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Michigan, Michigan.

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Speaker 2: By the way, their quarterback, Bryce Perkins. And I just

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Speaker 2: night if you got nothing else to do, and you

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Speaker 2: watch the UFL Championship.

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Speaker 3: If you need a fourth quarterback on the roster.

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Speaker 2: You know what I was sitting there looking at with

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Speaker 2: they're looking out a quarterback in the UFL to fill

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Speaker 2: out this.

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Speaker 3: And what better story could you provide us?

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Speaker 2: Then Don Perkins.

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Speaker 4: Very cool nephew would be extremely cool.

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Speaker 2: Now he's not, but he's not twenty four years old.

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Speaker 2: He's twenty eight years old.

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Speaker 4: Oh he is?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's okay, yeah, not bad at a kind

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Speaker 3: So he's not the nephew I met when I did

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: How old was he he was.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't maybe ten.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, Well, speaking of the kid, can we talk

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Speaker 4: about well, at least bring up Michael Down's birthday.

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Speaker 2: Well, yes we can.

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Speaker 4: Michael.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what we didn't get an invitation? Well

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Speaker 3: I didn't get one. You might have declined it. It's

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Speaker 3: uh Cliff Harris's arm today.

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Speaker 2: I know Cliff Harris and DeMarcus Ware teaming up to

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Speaker 2: clips of that on CBS.

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Speaker 3: As Cliff pointed out during his radio interview when he

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Speaker 3: first got there, as they're trying to get younger players

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Speaker 4: You recall oh disastrous golf tournament that we had with him.

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Speaker 4: The temperature somehow, and it was earlier in the spring

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Speaker 3: If I'm not MI was just the one that was

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Speaker 3: almost one hundred.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it was one hundred degrees and with humidity you

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Speaker 4: almost fell out. Preston Pearson made me so mad that day,

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Speaker 4: Me and Bubba from blazing saddles. We're ready to go.

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Speaker 4: Preston's like, no, we play the eighteen holes because that's

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Speaker 4: only that, Preston Pearson takes at least one minute to

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Speaker 4: address the ball and I'm sorry, man, we don't have

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Speaker 4: time for all of that, so I'm fussing. Of course,

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Speaker 4: I'm the young loud mouth in Preston's eyes. Oh, don't

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Speaker 4: worry about it, everyton, don't worry. But by the time

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Speaker 4: were done, y'all were on dessert.

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Speaker 3: We were done eating, you.

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Speaker 4: Were done eating. And I was so mad. I left

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Speaker 4: and I two days later I called Preston to see

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Speaker 4: how he was doing. He said he was just getting

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Speaker 4: all of this was going on. No dammit, I'm gonna finish,

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Speaker 4: and that's Preston play.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's why DeMarcus ware got has to help out.

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Speaker 3: We're getting some of the younger guy.

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Speaker 2: All right, very good. That was flawless from that's what

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Speaker 2: we're going for today.

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Speaker 3: That's a hell of the home schedule.

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Speaker 4: Yeah it is. Yes, it is Packers, Chiefs, Chargers, Vikings,

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Speaker 4: and Cardinals.

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna make up for lost time. Okay when

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Speaker 3: you were playing, did you ever look at the schedule

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Speaker 3: when it came out and said, oh.

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Speaker 4: This is good or this is bad? I never did.

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Speaker 8: No.

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Speaker 4: It was just like this is no. It was all.

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Speaker 4: It was all a bit. It was all tough for me.

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Speaker 4: So I couldn't sit I saying oh, oh that's I

543
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Speaker 4: couldn't be picky with it, you know, to me, it

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Speaker 4: was all tough.

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Speaker 3: So like that time when we talked about the six

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Speaker 3: straight games against playoff teams.

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Speaker 4: That didn't know, the only time I would.

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Speaker 3: Well that was because you guys were well the first

549
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Speaker 3: part of it in your career playoff teams.

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Speaker 4: But I always looked at just cities, cities that'd be

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Speaker 4: like where you're going, where I'm going, Like if you

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Speaker 4: say New Orleans, then my boys down New Orleans, right,

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Speaker 4: And of course you think of the stadium itself and

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Speaker 4: all the freaking noise in that stadium. So you do

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Speaker 4: think about the environment of the visiting of site that

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Speaker 4: you go to. You do think about that. I know

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Speaker 4: when I go to you know RFK, you know, especially

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Speaker 4: if it's a certain time of year. You know, we

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Speaker 4: know that the stands are going to be moving, you

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Speaker 4: know in the end zone. Just things like that just

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Speaker 4: come to your head.

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Speaker 3: Ras probably wasn't real grass.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, when they spray green grass on them, the

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Speaker 4: mud and that, because if it's a green field.

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Speaker 3: I remember Walt Garrison telling me that a couple of

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Speaker 3: times when they won there, they got in the locker

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Speaker 3: room and there was no hot water. Just happened to

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Speaker 3: be just cold water. An he wore as stuff home.

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Speaker 3: He didn't, Well, we couldn't.

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Speaker 4: We couldn't do that. No, we weren't. They would not

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Speaker 4: allow you to do that. Even you get getting that

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Speaker 4: and face it, buddy, get that cold water, because you're

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Speaker 4: not getting on this plane and smelling like that. I

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Speaker 4: don't think we will let that happen. And also you

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Speaker 4: would look at San Francisco. It wasn't just the team

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Speaker 4: that you're playing, the field, yeah, you know, and so

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Speaker 4: you know that when you play this game, you're going

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Speaker 4: to have to have extra long spikes. Those are the

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Speaker 4: kind of things that would really go through my head.

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Speaker 2: You know when the and I didn't mean to talk

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Speaker 2: about this today, but since you brought it up, you know,

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Speaker 2: there was so much focus the schedule came out last

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Speaker 2: month about that six game stretch that started Thanksgiving week Philadelphia,

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Speaker 2: Kansas City at Detroit, Minnesota, Cincinnati, and Christmas Day at Washington.

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Speaker 2: But I was just now looking, okay, the first ten

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Speaker 2: games or so of the season, starting with the Thursday

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Speaker 2: night at Philadelphia, yeah. I mean, let me just just

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Speaker 2: to remind everyone what it is. All Right, You get

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Speaker 2: to start at Philadelphia, Okay, obviously that's a very difficult opener.

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Speaker 2: But then ten days later at home against the Giants,

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Speaker 2: at Chicago, Green Bay, at home at the Jets, at Carolina,

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Speaker 2: home against Washington, at Denver, Arizona, bye week, and at Vegas.

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Speaker 2: You can make some hay during the first half of

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Speaker 2: that season.

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Speaker 4: You know, you better make some hay, right, I mean,

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Speaker 4: but I haven't looked at the other guys schedule as well.

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Speaker 4: So you say, Casey's coming in, we've got to go.

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Speaker 4: Good teams come in, But what's their schedule looking like?

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Speaker 3: As they could they have spaced some of that out.

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Speaker 4: Though, made it more equitable over but you have to

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Speaker 4: compare with teams. I mean, Casey's scheduled probably tough as well,

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Speaker 4: coming into here at a certain time of year.

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Speaker 2: Any one of those teams that's in that six game

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Speaker 2: stretch from Philadelphia to Kansas City, Detroit, Minnesota, Cincinnati, and Washington.

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Speaker 2: If the same thing happens to any one of those

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Speaker 2: teams that happened to the Cowboys in the sixth game

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Speaker 2: of the year last year, they lose their starting quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Those games are totally different, right.

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Speaker 3: I looked up Philadelphia's I don't know where I've got it,

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Speaker 3: the schedule, and they didn't have any games like that

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Speaker 3: many in a row against play quality teams. Yeah, playoff teams.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And so from the Cowboys standpoint, they to have four

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Speaker 3: games against playoff teams in their own division.

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Speaker 4: Well, here's my thing. I'm sure Philadelphia does have a

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Speaker 4: stretch that's challenging. You didn't see, not.

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Speaker 3: Off the top of my head. I didn't see anything

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Speaker 3: more challenging than a three or four game stretch.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, Well, and it's already I mean, Elias or

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Speaker 2: whoever came up with the numbers on it. There has

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Speaker 2: never in the history of football been a stretch as

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Speaker 2: difficult as what the Cowboys have from November twenty third

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Speaker 2: to December twenty fifth, Meaning never before has a team

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Speaker 2: been scheduled to play a six straight opponents who had

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Speaker 2: eleven or more wins the year before.

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Speaker 3: Or six opponents that combined was eighty one and twenty one?

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Speaker 3: Was that something like eighty one and twenty one last year?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Do you think it has anything to do with

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Speaker 4: the Cowboys and marketability and popularity.

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Speaker 2: I think that there is some of that that goes

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Speaker 2: into that because November is a big ratings month TV wise,

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Speaker 2: and then leading up to.

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Speaker 3: The holiday, and I don't know as far.

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Speaker 2: As advertising it higher rates. I would assume higher rates

635
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Speaker 2: go into the holiday season from Thanksgiving to Christmas, which

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Speaker 2: is one of the reasons why I always thought that

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Speaker 2: the college Football Playoff should be starting basically the week

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Speaker 2: after Thanksgiving because from a TV standpoint, you that's when

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Speaker 2: this at his height exactly, you know. So anyway, that's

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Speaker 2: a different story. All right, as far as this many camp,

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Speaker 2: what are you looking for outside of.

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Speaker 3: What you talked to We talked about corner outside And

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Speaker 3: by the way, the guy in Miami's probably still on

644
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Speaker 3: the trade block too.

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Speaker 4: So he didn't participate. He's not coming to camp, oh,

646
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Speaker 4: he had no, he's not coming.

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Speaker 3: Because he wants more money. And the Cowboys understand that

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Speaker 3: if it's more money for one year, we can kind

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Speaker 3: of of grit our teeth and do it. But if

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Speaker 3: it's for more with the contracts expanding, are the base

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Speaker 3: salaries increasing next year, they got to be careful.

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Speaker 4: I gotta say, if we would bring uh, if we

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Speaker 4: were to bring him in. God, that would.

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Speaker 2: He's under contract with another.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's right, say if they if they will bring

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Speaker 3: them in?

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Speaker 4: Zip it.

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Speaker 3: So other than cornerback, see and I want to say

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Speaker 3: the defensive front.

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Speaker 2: But okay, before you since before leaving cornerback. Yeah, kyer

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Speaker 2: Elam is a guy. You sighted him last week. He

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Speaker 2: came in here and said, who's this number twenty Yeah?

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Speaker 2: This was after Everson and the other twenty five legends

664
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Speaker 2: that were out here and got to watch the whole

665
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 2: day and team meetings and then out of practice. He

666
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: came in here the next week and said, the film work.

667
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 3: Thanks to you. By the way, I went back and

668
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 3: listened to Mike's fifty seven minute, fifty seven minute dissertation

669
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 3: on his day here and what he had to say

670
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 3: about everything. Michael, Yes, by himself. There's nobody asking him questions.

671
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 3: He just started.

672
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 2: He can interview himself seven minutes.

673
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 3: But you know what, he gave me a layup column.

674
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 2: He gave me a layup score sports show on Sunday night.

675
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: That way, I saw it that afternoon. I said, well,

676
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 2: I'm using that. I'm using that.

677
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 4: I'm using that.

678
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 9: On tonight's show, we talked I hadn't talked to Mike

679
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 9: in a long time, and we finally talked, and yeah,

680
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 9: I was just asking about the wide receivers and he

681
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 9: feels really good about that.

682
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 4: And you know, Mike is overly optimistic right about everything,

683
00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 4: because you know, he's he's you know.

684
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,959
Speaker 3: But but he was not optimistic about them hiring Schottenheimer.

685
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 3: He he wanted Dion in here, and he was adamant

686
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 3: that hiring him is going to be a continuation more

687
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 3: of the same, and he admitted it in his dissertation.

688
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 3: And then when he got here and saw what was

689
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 3: going on and the things they were doing, did a

690
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 3: one was.

691
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 2: He invited to go a traditional Greek dancing on Friday night,

692
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: no Greek isles, the grill.

693
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 3: And get out of here. Yes, not the whole team.

694
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 2: All the quarterbacks, Schottenheimer and Steve Shimco the quarterbacks coach,

695
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: and Dak and Joe Milton and Will Grier and that

696
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 2: and families were, but they were. They had the I

697
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: can't remember the name of the the dance group there

698
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: and they had a big old room and they were

699
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 2: doing Greek dancing. It's it's gone viral.

700
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 3: Were they doing belly dances?

701
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 2: I did not see any belly dancing. Joe Looney was

702
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 2: not there, okay.

703
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 3: But Mike's big, you know what. He went through that

704
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 3: whole thing and only once said something about talent. It

705
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 3: was all about shot He's program and the fact that

706
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 3: he is so big on competition under pressure. And he

707
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 3: said everything he sets up is competition under pressure. He goes,

708
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 3: they're not just sitting in there for gig giggles and

709
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 3: shooting free throws. No, he wants to see the guy

710
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 3: come up in front of everybody, and it's like, you

711
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 3: want to lose doing this right. And then he talked

712
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 3: about the position room. When he was in with the

713
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 3: ride receivers, they would call. He said, they called up

714
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 3: Mingo and Lamb and gave him the play and they

715
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 3: had to diagram to play and then point out everybody's

716
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 3: responsibility on that play and you better know it otherwise

717
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 3: the guys in the in the room or.

718
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 4: You're not dedicated, what are you doing?

719
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 3: And then the other thing he pointed out is he

720
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 3: said he called him up after the first half of

721
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 3: the practice and you know, basically said hey, good practice,

722
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 3: Da da da da da da, and he started, He said,

723
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 3: they started the second half and there was a bunch

724
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 3: of mistake and he stopped it, called everybody up and said,

725
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 3: you're letting your teammates down. And in Mike's mind, when

726
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 3: players hear that, you can tell me differently, he said,

727
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 3: everybody starts looking around, going, well, who's the guy screwing up?

728
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 3: It's not me? Uh And he said, then that's good.

729
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 3: It sets the So his whole thing was about the

730
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 3: environment more than anything else.

731
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 4: And when when When when the coach says something like that,

732
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 4: most likely the players know what area, what person they're

733
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 4: talking about, right, Yeah, it's no secret.

734
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 3: You just don't want it to be.

735
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 4: You don't want to say yeah, you don't want to

736
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,479
Speaker 4: You don't want to say anything until you know sometime later.

737
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 3: Okay, So that was an other thing.

738
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 2: On Thursday, I was out here to tape the Blitz

739
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 2: TV show and they were out on the field and

740
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: you got music just blaring, you know, and there was

741
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: a but even just observing it and you can speak

742
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 2: to that, there was a Christmas about the way they

743
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 2: were going about their business, all the position groups and

744
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 2: so forth.

745
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 4: Well, I saw the Christmas on the film. That's before

746
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 4: we even got out on the field. And It wasn't

747
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 4: just coming from what I was bragging about Dak and

748
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 4: pickings and CD what page that they were on. The

749
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 4: running backs also were looking good out there. Once again,

750
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 4: you see not just how good a player is in

751
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 4: the secondary, but you see how they're following instructions. And

752
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 4: that's what I liked about Kayir. He was doing it

753
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 4: just the way that it was supposed to be done,

754
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 4: and he did it with the quickest feet that I've

755
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 4: seen in the secondary.

756
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 3: See, that could be the bonus if they can get

757
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 3: something out of a one year bet.

758
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 4: They're making on you know.

759
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: And here's one thing on Cayer Elam when you look

760
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: at his career. This is his fourth year and he

761
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 2: was of course a first round draft pick out of

762
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 2: Florida twenty third overall pick in twenty twenty two. All Right,

763
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 2: his first year in twenty twenty two, he played in

764
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 2: thirteen games, made six starts, four hundred and seventy seven snaps,

765
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 2: had a couple of interceptions. Christian Benford was her sixth

766
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 2: round pick that year, and out of Villanova and Benford.

767
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 2: He had some injury issues that first year, and Elam

768
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 2: missed four games as well that first year, but then

769
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: Benford took off. The second year, Elam only played three games,

770
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 2: two starts because he had an injury that year. He

771
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 2: had torn ligaments in his right foot. So that's when

772
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: Benford got a leg up on Elam, and Benford had

773
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: the opportunity because Elam wasn't on the field. Two guys

774
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 2: came in the same year out of the draft, and

775
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 2: Benford took off. He just took the opportunity ran with it.

776
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 2: Good for him. Well, Elam only played three games out

777
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 2: of seventeen that year because they had torn ligaments in

778
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 2: his foot. So now he comes back last last year

779
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 2: and thirteen games, four starts, had a shoulder injury that

780
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 2: he dealt with a little bit, but it was already

781
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,439
Speaker 2: they had your starters lined up here because Benford took

782
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: advantage of his opportunity of the year before. So I

783
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 2: think what the Cowboys scouts have seen and looking at

784
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 2: Elam and understanding the injury issue that he had in

785
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 2: his second year in the league, that this isn't a

786
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 2: guy that you know, he's twenty eight, twenty nine years

787
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: old and has had an opportunity and failed. He There's

788
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,919
Speaker 2: been some circumstances that have occurred and now, yeah, he's young,

789
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 2: he's you know, and so he's he just turned twenty

790
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 2: four last month, and I.

791
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 4: Just saw, like I said, what I saw on the field.

792
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 4: There was one play where he was concentrating on the

793
00:42:55,520 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 4: wide receiver in the type of zone matchup defense and

794
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 4: the two receiver came out and did a wheel route

795
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 4: and he didn't see it at first, but when he

796
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 4: saw it, his reaction was so quick that it negated

797
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 4: the wheel route altogether. The receiver couldn't even get down

798
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 4: the field because he was not prepared for Elam to

799
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 4: recognize it so quickly after making the adjustment, and he

800
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 4: totally got in the guy's way, which is what you're

801
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 4: supposed to do by preventing them from getting down the field.

802
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 4: And when we saw that, the coach had to run

803
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 4: it back and they go, whoa look at this guy

804
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 4: because he saw it last minute and when he made

805
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 4: the move was extremely quick, so extremely quick.

806
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 3: He's getting the opportunity now because when they go out

807
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 3: there with what looks like their first team defense, he's

808
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 3: at left corner and he's been there the whole time.

809
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 3: We get to see the OTAs and the day we

810
00:43:55,880 --> 00:44:02,479
Speaker 3: got to watch last week it was Tuesday, dak through

811
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 3: a deep route to Pickens and he was there to

812
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 3: break it up, and so he was running with.

813
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 4: Pickens and Pickens and CD. They're not out there trying

814
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 4: to be cute. Oh no, they are out there balling.

815
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 4: They are bringing it with all the speed coming across

816
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 4: the middle. Of course, you know, we know this is

817
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 4: practice and they're not going to worry about too much contact.

818
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 4: But to have that kind of aggression this time of year,

819
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 4: I don't care if you got pads on or not.

820
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 4: That's the kind of timing that you want to see

821
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 4: from your offense. You don't have time. You know, it

822
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 4: wouldn't be good for you to go at a pace.

823
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 4: That's not true. They're going at a true pace, a

824
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 4: game pace on both sides without the contact.

825
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 3: And the other guy that I felt is following in

826
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 3: those footsteps that I've seen so far as Javonte Williams.

827
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 3: And I can't say i've seen him play last year

828
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 3: the year before when he tore his ACL, but he

829
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 3: had a good year in Denver, and it looks like

830
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 3: and you know how they make him run through and

831
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 3: they know they're not going to get hit.

832
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 4: That's what we're talking about it, right.

833
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 3: But he hits the hole and if he has to

834
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 3: run eighty yards, no one's running with them, you know,

835
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 3: I don't know that the dB has to chase them all.

836
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, they want them to chase.

837
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 3: Him and knock the ball out because the running back

838
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 3: has to go and he's a lot faster than I envisioned.

839
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 4: They were taught to defensively. DB's they have to finish

840
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 4: the play that they're chase them all the way to

841
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 4: the end zone if you have to, but see if

842
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 4: you can make the play because some of the running

843
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 4: backs they get lack of days thinking they got it

844
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 4: made and then here comes Kayir came up one time

845
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 4: knocked it out of the dude's hand just before he scored.

846
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:50,919
Speaker 4: So these are the kind of things. Let me say,

847
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 4: this's not got a little time to deal with when

848
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 4: you start talking about injuries. Injuries happen when you're not

849
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 4: prepared for something. The better understanding you have of the

850
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 4: game itself. It's like driving. You can anticipate things that

851
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 4: can happen before they do. That could help you prevent

852
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 4: a lot of injuries if you don't take any missteps

853
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 4: based on that not being prepared. The way that they're

854
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 4: coaching these guys, they're letting them know pre snap recognition

855
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 4: is going to help you a lot in this situation.

856
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 4: So that recognition is going to help you understand what

857
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 4: the offense is trying to do. If you understand what

858
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 4: they're trying to do, then maybe you'll be more prepared

859
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,919
Speaker 4: physically for whatever's about to happen in the upcoming play.

860
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 4: You understand what I'm saying, That's how injuries happen when

861
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 4: you're not prepared and your mind is somewhere else, and

862
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 4: then you try to make a move that your body

863
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 4: wasn't ready for. That's why guys, myself, Michael Downs, we

864
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 4: just didn't get hurt that much because of the you

865
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 4: know what can have happened. At least so many things

866
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 4: can happen in a particular play, and not just to play,

867
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 4: but even down the field. There's only so many things

868
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 4: that happen when you go for the ball, and I

869
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 4: don't think that all these players are always ready for

870
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 4: that because it happens so quickly.

871
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 3: Like if you're on Sam Rayburn driving seventy miles an

872
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 3: hour and you're looking ahead and you're going I think

873
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 3: that guy wants to change left, right, you go, you

874
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 3: can tell right.

875
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 4: The same with football. It's the same with sports.

876
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 2: That's like Dray green Law when he tore his achilles

877
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 2: coming off the side. Second it was sudden change.

878
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 4: That was different to different, like whoa, what just happened.

879
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 4: I don't know what to compare that to. I'm sorry,

880
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,600
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Speaker 4: You're gonna be there?

943
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 2: Yes, all right, I'll be there all camp. No, not

944
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Speaker 2: the entire camp, but and hadn't been totally approved how

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Speaker 2: long I'll be there for. I'm confident that I will

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Speaker 2: be there at least a good amount of time week

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Speaker 2: or two. Right, Uh huh good, Yeah, you'll be there.

948
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Speaker 3: I'll be there.

949
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 2: Okay, where is it going to be?

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Speaker 4: So?

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00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 3: By the way, before we get going, I just saw

952
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 3: a commercial. Patrick Mahomes was in it. He and his

953
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 3: wife are in a suite in Omaha in Oklahoma City

954
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 3: watching the women's softball title games?

955
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:42,439
Speaker 2: Right yeah?

956
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 3: I mean how does he go to things like that

957
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 3: and no one notices who he is?

958
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 2: Like you got?

959
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 4: Oh?

960
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 2: I think they notice who he was? I know, because

961
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 2: Mike does.

962
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Speaker 4: He travel without security?

963
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 3: Well I don't know.

964
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 2: Yea. My wife went to Tech and so this weekend

965
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 2: her brother in law, who actually Billy Breed Love is

966
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 2: a vice chancellor at Tech and uh and so we

967
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 2: had our cousin's camp weekend and so the whole Lobbo

968
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 2: crew was watching it. So we watched a lot of softball.

969
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 3: And he's not just there. He's there cheering like they

970
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 3: caught him on his feet, yeah, waving whatever.

971
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and he got going to see anybody Oklahoma,

972
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Speaker 2: I mean Texas in Texas.

973
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Speaker 4: Were playing in the Yes, of course, of.

974
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Speaker 2: Course Women's College World Series. He got he got umber.

975
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Speaker 4: With the Grand Slam. That was he's a stud Texas.

976
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 2: He also bought gear for all for all the players

977
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 2: on the team, like jackets and other stuff. I think

978
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 2: he's an Adidas guy.

979
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Speaker 4: Okay, he is.

980
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 3: That's probably why the whole school is that.

981
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, it's definitely why. And by the way, the

982
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 2: pitcher Niga Kennedy who was at Stanford and they paid

983
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 2: her and over a million dollars for this year and

984
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 2: on game day, on the day of the last game

985
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 2: which did not go well for her, they announced the

986
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 2: contract extension for her for next year. As I got

987
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 2: she's coming back, and I'm not sure that it's all.

988
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 2: The Tech has a huge knownor Cody Campbell, who sold

989
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 2: a oil company for four billion dollars. And that's why

990
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,760
Speaker 2: Tech's got the best the number one rank transfer portal

991
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 2: in football. Well also, but I think Patrick may have

992
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 2: donated a little bit to the softball pitcher as well,

993
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 2: so he's he's got a vested interest in this.

994
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 3: They wear those poor pictures out.

995
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 2: That's why that's okay, we're not going to But of

996
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 2: course my alma mater, Oklahoma won the last four. Yes,

997
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 2: and I'm sorry, I can't get into some and that's

998
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 2: that's and my says, stirs. They're they're texting about whatever

999
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 2: happens in the games, and I'm not watching. I don't care.

1000
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Speaker 4: Because that's one of the I'm not you should but

1001
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 4: follow it.

1002
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 2: But it's amazing how okay people go to these schools

1003
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 2: and my okay, my wife she admits she didn't know

1004
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 2: Tech how to softball team. It's a last week and

1005
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 2: she's like watching it and she's nervous as could be

1006
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 2: that we got to win this game. It's a school

1007
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 2: pride that builds up. That's just amazing.

1008
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 4: Well, oh you should know about that, Oh you you

1009
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 4: should not.

1010
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: But but the reason I don't get into softball is

1011
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 2: the picture situation. You can because they throw underhanded, there's

1012
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 2: no stress on your shoulder. They can pitch every game

1013
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 2: and so it's okay. If you got the great pitcher,

1014
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 2: then you're gonna win the game.

1015
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 3: Typically, typically they are hitting better than they used to.

1016
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Speaker 5: Have.

1017
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 4: You guys seen the I Guess interview that Patrick Mahone's

1018
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 4: wife UH delivered to UH to Patrick, and they were

1019
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 4: talking about the things he likes, no, and the kind

1020
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 4: of food that he eats and things of that nature.

1021
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 4: So they she was asking him questions. I think he

1022
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,240
Speaker 4: was asking her questions. I think he was asking her questions.

1023
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 4: See if she knew about him, okay, and she was

1024
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 4: like a game. She asked, No, one knows what about Yeah,

1025
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 4: we forget how old we are? She asked him, Well,

1026
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 4: he asked her, what's my favorite food? And she was

1027
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 4: just so funny, especially in the black community. She goes

1028
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 4: fried chicken. He goes, no, it's not. I just I

1029
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 4: thought that was so funny. She thinks her husband's favorite

1030
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 4: food is fried chicken. You don't know your her husband's

1031
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 4: favorite food. And this sounded just so weird because of

1032
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 4: the way she said it, and of course he you know,

1033
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 4: was pretty land about no, no fire, chicken is not

1034
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 4: my favorite food. I just thought i'd bring that up

1035
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 4: and make it an uncomfortable moment.

1036
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 2: Didn't say what his favorite food is.

1037
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,879
Speaker 4: It didn't matter the fact that she got it wrong

1038
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 4: and the way she said it, It just sounds is

1039
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 4: so well.

1040
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 2: I guarantee you if Patrick Mahomes, knowing my wife and

1041
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 2: her family and all the Texas Tech people, if he

1042
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 2: said whatever hit to his favorite food is, that's their

1043
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 2: favorite food. That's what Patrick Mahomes means to the Texas

1044
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 2: Tech people.

1045
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 3: Or they were going to go out and buy that's right,

1046
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 3: all right, all right, you.

1047
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 2: Got more things on your legal path.

1048
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 3: Well safe. We were going to like what else to

1049
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 3: watch for the mini camp and I'd love to say

1050
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 3: the defensive front, but they it's playing Patty Kake them,

1051
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 3: so you really can't tell. You can tell what the

1052
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 3: coaches think of them by how they line them up,

1053
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 3: but other than that, you can't.

1054
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 2: Okay, let's fast this this show is going to have

1055
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 2: a lot of shelf life here for the next six weeks.

1056
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 2: So what are you looking for in training camp?

1057
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:11,760
Speaker 4: Well?

1058
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 3: Right there, yes, absolutely, they're not paying that is well,

1059
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 3: we got to wait four days before we find out.

1060
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 3: But can Mozsi Smith take the next step, because he's

1061
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 3: got to take the next step.

1062
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 4: You spoke of the salaries, and the cap is already

1063
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 4: hit on most teams, So what's the chances that we

1064
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 4: get a bigger player up front? You on the defensive.

1065
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 3: Line probably have to wait until the Cup. The cuts

1066
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 3: come like August, I think I just wrote it down.

1067
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 3: They got to be at ninety three on August twenty sixth.

1068
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 4: So you you would take someone from the first well, that's.

1069
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 3: Like take what it was a big guy they brought,

1070
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 3: was it or was it Watkins?

1071
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 2: Or was that the year Carlos Watkins was one of

1072
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 2: them and the year before Joseph Linville. Joseph was in here.

1073
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 2: Jonathan Hankins.

1074
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 3: Jonathan Hankins because he's the one that went to Seattle.

1075
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 3: They wanted to resign him and Seattle he and they

1076
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 3: offered him the same amount of money. But he went

1077
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 3: to Seattle because his defensive line coach is the defensive

1078
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 3: coordinator there.

1079
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 4: But if you bring up those guys names, they didn't

1080
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 4: do much for us.

1081
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 2: Well, and remember and they were bringing in nose tackles

1082
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 2: left and right, veteran guys from Jordan Phillips to Albert Huggins,

1083
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 2: and during training camp didn't want to play football, goes

1084
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 2: to Buffalo, and then he goes to Buffalo and he's

1085
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 2: wanted to play football again.

1086
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 4: So that.

1087
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 3: Also if Geyton is taking the next step at left tackle,

1088
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 3: but again we can't see that until they put the

1089
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 3: pads on. So I think that.

1090
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 4: Has anyone about his progress, Has anyone talked about.

1091
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 3: His Schottenheimer uh praised him for his work in the

1092
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 3: off season and saying, you know, and he went to

1093
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 3: point out that he hadn't played much left tackle, uh

1094
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 3: in his college career.

1095
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 4: You think someone like Nate could help him.

1096
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 2: Nate Newton Well Tying had helped him a little.

1097
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 4: Yeah. Who looks good, by the way.

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Speaker 3: When I saw him, I saw him. So he's like

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Speaker 3: at the end over there at the end of the field, right,

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Speaker 3: and I saw this guy standing there and I go,

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00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 3: is that the Marcus Ware And and then he came

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00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 3: jogging with his son and it's like that's Tyrant. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 3: oh my lord.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So he's helping him.

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00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 2: I believe there was a report that he's he talked

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00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 2: to him once and so the report.

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00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 4: He's help talkings.

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00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, at most we have probably he was out of

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01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 3: practice and someone saw them talk to each other or whatever.

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Speaker 2: So he's working with you. You know.

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Speaker 3: The other position I think is going to be interesting

1112
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 3: is wide receiver because you know they're what top three

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01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 3: If you've got Pickens, Lamb and Tolbert, that's the way

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01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 3: they've been going. The next three have been Turpin's fourth right, Uh,

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Speaker 3: Turpin was yes, Turpin Uh, FLOORINOI and Mingo ILINOI. I

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01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 3: can't get out of sayoy. Those three are the second line.

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01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 2: So that there was Turpin, FLINOI, and Mingo right, okay,

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01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 2: ILLINOI Mingo.

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Speaker 4: To say something. I don't know what each other.

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Speaker 3: And so that then you know, leaves Paris Campbell, who's

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Speaker 3: kind of a veteran at least Jalen Brooks who made

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Speaker 3: the team last year. Cropper had it looks like he's

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01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 3: had another good offseason, He's had a good training camp,

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Speaker 3: and then he gets in the in the preseason games

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Speaker 3: and disappears.

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Speaker 4: If we can get Ferguson healthy, I guess he's healthy.

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Speaker 4: I hadn't heard, yes he is, and get that same

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01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 4: attitude back that they had two years ago and if

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Speaker 4: we can get the young running back Blue and work

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01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 4: with him, I mean really work with him and get

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01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 4: his confidence up to let him know that he could

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01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 4: be the man around here. And if not the man,

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01:01:56,240 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 4: he could be extremely important on passing downs, second and

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01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 4: long third downs.

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Speaker 2: We may not pair them with lip Key.

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01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 4: Anyway. Stop anyway. First of all, is gonna get off

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01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 4: this year. Okay, He's going to be able to have

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01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 4: his little packages. I do believe. I do believe that.

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01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 4: But I would just like for us to not worry

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01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 4: about a third wide receiver necessarily. I think that we

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01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 4: can really confuse people with a running back like Blue

1142
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 4: in the sight and the tight end, two tight ends,

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01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 4: even in the slot.

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01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 3: See and everybody forgets Tolbert let the team in touchdowns

1145
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 3: lest year with seven seven.

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01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 4: And I'm still not impressed. I gotta see more from him.

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01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 4: I have to see more from him in regards to

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01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 4: getting off the line of scrimmage. I get it, you know,

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01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 4: he scored seven touchdowns, but I need to see someone

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01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 4: that's going to help me move the chains when my

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01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,479
Speaker 4: quarterback is in trouble, and I need you to beat

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01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 4: that man off the line of scrimmage inside right now,

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01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 4: and I don't want any excuses. That's the kind of

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01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 4: guy I want to see.

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01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 3: Well, you know they're doing it now, but I guarantee

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01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,479
Speaker 3: you there's going to be a turping package out.

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01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 4: Of the s and there you go. That's that's fine

1158
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 4: as well. But in regards to UH having to to disguise, yeah,

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01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 4: if you bring out a running situation, running personnel, you

1160
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 4: can easily change that that running personnel into passing personnel.

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01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 3: And then the other thing is the backup quarterback position.

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01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 3: Those guys have got to prove that you can count

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01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 3: on and I don't know what the lack of experience

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01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 3: that that's going to play.

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Speaker 4: Out from either one of the guys.

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Speaker 3: Now, I was the practice we watched on Tuesday, Milton

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01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 3: I was impressed because he was he was seeing the

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01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 3: anticipating the receiver that was coming open right and throwing

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01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 3: the ball very accurately, and then he missed the linebacker

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01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,959
Speaker 3: dropping in the coverage and DeMont Clark picked him off.

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Speaker 3: So I was sitting there until that point I said, Okay,

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01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 3: I understand what everybody thinks about his arm. Now he's

1173
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 3: got to understand where to throw the ball. And then

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01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 3: he got picked off.

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01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 4: And it happens. I mean, this guy's yeah paid. Yeah,

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01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 4: that's a good player.

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Speaker 3: You know, if you have thirty six touchdown passes, you're

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01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 3: probably going to have ten to twelve interceptions.

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01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 2: It just happens. Okay, we're past time. We're in overtime now,

1180
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 2: ot okay, way past.

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01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 4: Yep, So.

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01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 2: Enjoy your mandatory mini camp and we'll see you and.

1183
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 4: I welcome to overtime now.

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01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 3: I think you guys should be there to watch mini camp.

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01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 2: Come on, but we'll see everyone else in Oxnard. Because

1186
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 2: this is we're done with the mix shots for the seasons.

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01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 4: This is the last.

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01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 2: Okay, it's pretty sad, it is, all right. Enjoy your

1189
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 2: vacation too.

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01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 3: And yes, using some time, a few vacations, yes.

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01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 2: All right, and so we will too. Yes, since you've

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01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 2: got all this help at CBS eleven, and since we

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01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 2: got all our teams out of the playoffs, I'll take vacation,

1194
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 2: all right. Rangers, Well that's he just said, we got

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01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 2: all the teams out of the playoffs. You have been

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01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 2: watching them lately.

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01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 3: Hey, they're starting to hit, all right, so that's it.

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Speaker 2: They need to course some runs of course, Yes, all right,

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Speaker 2: Producer Supreme, Well, appreciate you as always. Yes, and we'll

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Speaker 2: see you in Oxnard for the next edition of Mixed Shots,

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01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 2: Oh Cowboys.

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