1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 2: Now we're going to start right away with Corbyn Carson 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 2: from KFI News because we do have a verdict. You 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 2: may have heard in the shooting of that six year 6 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: old boy, Aiden Leos. This is from maya, twenty twenty one. 7 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 2: He was sitting in the backseat of his mother's car 8 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: and the murderer's girlfriend cut off Aiden's mom. Her name 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 2: was is Joanna Kloonan, and then Klunen responded by flipping 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 2: the finger to the girlfriend and the killer Marcus Ares 11 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: and Ariz responded by pulling out a gun, firing it 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: at Na Klunan's car and hitting Aiden. Bullet went right 13 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 2: through the back and entered his heart. We have a 14 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 2: verdict today. It was a murder trial. Let's get Corbyn 15 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: Carson on. Yeah. 16 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 3: John. 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 4: We talked about this several times since the trial started 18 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 4: last Thursday. Really quick trial. The defense did not call 19 00:00:59,000 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 4: any witnesses. 20 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 3: Marcus A. 21 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 4: Reves did not testify on his behalf and he had 22 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 4: guilt was never in question. The Reeves had confessed to 23 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 4: investigators in an over an hour long confession that was 24 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 4: he was asked repeatedly, you know why he did this, 25 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 4: and so forth, We've talked about all that, and so 26 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 4: it all boiled down to is this going to be 27 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 4: voluntary manslaughter or is this going to be second degree murder? 28 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,919 Speaker 4: And a jury of ten men and two women deliberated 29 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 4: for less than two hours between yesterday and this morning 30 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 4: and came back quickly guilty on all counts that would 31 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 4: be the second degree murder shooting an occupied vehicle, and 32 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 4: then enhancements for both charges for the use of a firearm. 33 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 4: And so the man faces forty years at sentencing set 34 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 4: for next month. You know, Orange County DA Todd Spitzer 35 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 4: spoke outside. He said, this is a guy who killed 36 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 4: this little boy because they flipped him off. 37 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 3: Oh sorry, you know this always happens with you, John. 38 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 3: It must be you that's causing just. 39 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: Kidding here I sh out disruptive energy. 40 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 3: Here's Todd on what he about this boy? 41 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 4: Excuse me about Marcus Arives who killed this guy because 42 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 4: a woman flipped him off. 43 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 5: His life take him six years old. She had to 44 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 5: bury her son, His sister had a bury her brother. 45 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 5: Their father had to bury a son. It's not the 46 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 5: normal order of events. We don't predecease our children. That's 47 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 5: why this has hit home, I think with everybody in 48 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 5: Orange County and across America, because you don't your children 49 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 5: don't die before you. 50 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 3: And then that's important. 51 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 4: He said, it hit home with everybody in Orange County 52 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 4: because when this happened, there was this sixteen day man 53 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 4: hunt for who shot Aidan Laos, There was half a 54 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 4: million dollar reward, there were you know, warrants out, and 55 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 4: there were press conferences daily and this was you know, 56 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 4: it was national news. What happened to this six year 57 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 4: six year old boy. And so now we have an answer, 58 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 4: and now we have the end of this trial. We're 59 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 4: still waiting for one more trial for the co defendant. 60 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 4: That's Winnie Lee. She was driving the car. That's Ares's girlfriend. 61 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 4: She's doing court next month, and what are the going 62 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 4: to be the charges against her. She's only facing accessory 63 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 4: after the fact. So this has all you know, at 64 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 4: first they were they were going to try him together, 65 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 4: but it looks like, you know, this has really focused 66 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 4: in on a ree. So it remains to be seen. 67 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 4: I spoke with we spoke with the prosecutor again, who 68 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 4: was with the DA at the end, and he wouldn't 69 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 4: give us much because you know, there's still a trial 70 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 4: to be coming. But we'll we'll have to see what 71 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 4: happens with that next month. But I will tell you 72 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 4: you and I talked about this as far as voluntary 73 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 4: or involuntary and manslaughter, and we finally got we are 74 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 4: finally now able to hear from the prosecution side about 75 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 4: what they thought about. 76 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 3: Should this be voluntary manslaughter? And the defense. 77 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 4: Spitzer brought up brought up two arguments that he was 78 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 4: really up He says he was really upset about first. 79 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 5: He attacked Joanna the mother and as if when she 80 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 5: came by the car and she gestured to women and 81 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 5: mister Airy's the defendant, that somehow it was Joanna Klunion 82 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 5: that put a set of events in place that would 83 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 5: allow somebody then to grab a gun from behind the 84 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 5: driver's seat cock it right, put around in the chamber, 85 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 5: rolled down a window and then aim and fire towards 86 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 5: a moving vehicle because of that event. 87 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 4: And he says, the jury of twelve, you know, ten men, 88 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 4: two women in Orange County, they didn't agree with that 89 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 4: that somehow this could ever be the mother's fault. 90 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 3: Spitzer said, that's offensive. I mean, John, as. 91 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 4: Parents, we all know she will personally never forgive herself 92 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 4: for that gesture, and even prosecutors acknowledged that in court. 93 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 3: But Spitzer said, this is all the shooter's fault. 94 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: He's still there here. Sorry, clip, I'm sorry. That was 95 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: my bust. 96 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 4: And I did have one because I said he had 97 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 4: just bat He had two arguments that he had a 98 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 4: prop with. Finally, the big one is this voluntary manslaughter 99 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 4: or is this murder? 100 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 3: And that is a legal definition. 101 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 4: It came down to what did he did, what was 102 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 4: his intent, what was his state of mind? And Spitcher 103 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 4: pointed out there was something more, a message to all 104 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 4: road raged drivers out there that there was something more 105 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 4: at stake. 106 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 5: Here, and had the jury allowed that to be voluntary manslaughter, 107 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 5: if they had bought defense's argument, they would have sent 108 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 5: a message that it's okay to carry a gun in 109 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 5: your car and if somebody comes by and you get 110 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 5: into some kind of exchange and you fire your weapon, 111 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 5: you are only responsible for voluntary manslaughter. This jury said no. 112 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 5: Dan Feldman said no. 113 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 3: That's the prosecutor. 114 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 5: Investigator Hill said no. Todd Spitzer said no. Johanna Klunan 115 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 5: said no, and twelve jurors when asked, is this your 116 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 5: vert it? They said yes, there you go. 117 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 2: All right, Well it's well said as always by Todd. 118 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: He's absolutely right. I mean, if the minimum standard to 119 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 2: justify murder is you flipped somebody off, yeah, well, there's 120 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of mayhem out there. 121 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, any kind of cutting off people. I mean, it's 122 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 4: happening all the time, and that kind that came up 123 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 4: in court. People get cut off all the time. And 124 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 4: it was funny because the defense made an argument that 125 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 4: the standard is does what would the average person do 126 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 4: in similar situations? 127 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 3: What an average person do? 128 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 4: And I was sitting there thinking, well, you know, there's 129 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 4: a lot of people in this courtroom, but only one 130 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 4: person is charged with murder, so the average would be 131 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 4: us sitting here, and it only happened to one guy. 132 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 2: I've never heard of a case like this where a 133 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: mother flips off a driver. The girlfriend who cut Joanna 134 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 2: Cloonan off, Yeah she did cut off, all right, So 135 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: she flips the bird and you know everybody's well, dever 136 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: does that regularly and the response is a a gunshot 137 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:01,559 Speaker 2: to kill your child. 138 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it was just a most absurd case. 139 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: And I said this the other day, this is the 140 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 2: worst defense I've ever seen, because there's no defense. Randall 141 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 2: lyeth Hune, the defense attorney, said it was a profound mistake, 142 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: a rash decision by a young man. No, because of 143 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 2: what Todd Spitzer said, because you got to reach over, 144 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: pull out the gun, get around in the chamber, cock 145 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: the pistol, lean out fire. That's a lot of decisions 146 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: that you make to get to that's. 147 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 4: The intent, right, and then the malice. The malice is 148 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 4: this was a trained gun owner. They brought that up 149 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 4: in court. He knew what would happen. And just like 150 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 4: a dui when you get in the car drive and 151 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 4: someone kills everyone knows and you point a gun. I mean, 152 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 4: they said, this is the most this is the inherently 153 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 4: best example of something dangerous. You shoot at someone, something 154 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 4: deadly can happen. 155 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, very good, Garbon, Thanks thanks a lot 156 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 2: for coming on Carbon Carson from KFI News and for 157 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 2: once it's good news. Marcus Ares he's the guy who 158 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 2: shot six year old Aiden Leos Maya twenty twenty one, 159 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 2: after Arise's girlfriend Winnie Lee cut off the mother Joanna 160 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 2: kloonan Joanna flips Winnie and Marcus erise the bird and uh, 161 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 2: well you you know the restse pulls out the gun 162 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: and shoots. 163 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 6: And just for the record, I've controlled myself. 164 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: Controlled yourself, all right, because I watch you on this 165 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: monitor here. Yeah, you've been flipping people off constantly, just 166 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,679 Speaker 2: hear them. 167 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 6: And we're not driving, and you don't have a gun. 168 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 2: One all right. You know what we got coming up 169 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 2: at one thirty? Oh my god, We've got two really 170 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 2: really terrible laws that are coming possible laws after one thirty. 171 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 172 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 2: I couldn't believe this morning. Every time there's a bad law, 173 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: the name attached to the bad law in California is 174 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: San Francisco State Senator Scott boy And if ever a 175 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 2: name described a person fully, yeah, Scott Wiener, listen to 176 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 2: the latest. He wants all cars in California to have 177 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 2: what they call a governor, a speed governor that would 178 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: mechanically prohibit you from driving more than ten miles an 179 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 2: hour over posted speed limits. Seriously, like you could never 180 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 2: drive more than ten miles past the speed limit. There 181 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 2: may be some goodie goods out there say, well, yes, 182 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 2: it should be that way. Well, hum, I'll give you 183 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 2: an example. 184 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: We come back. White should not be that way. 185 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobeltch on demand from KFI AM 186 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 7: six forty. 187 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 2: All right, one thirty, we are going to have Jabber on. 188 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 2: His organization fights all sorts of stupid traffic laws that 189 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 2: come from cities, counties, and the state government and is 190 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 2: often successful fighting them off. He certainly raises a lot 191 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: of awareness because most people don't know what's going on 192 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: and how they're constantly trying to interfere and make your 193 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 2: life more difficult. Well, this is a whopper from the 194 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: vegan brain of Scott Wiener. Scott Wiener is a state 195 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 2: senator from San Francisco, and. 196 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: I know how do they think of these things? 197 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 2: He would require that all cars are trucks, beginning with 198 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty seven model year, any of them that 199 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 2: are built or sold in California. We'll have something called 200 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 2: a speed governor something to limit the speed of your 201 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 2: car to prevent you from driving more than ten miles 202 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 2: an hour over posted speed limits. I'm not making this up. 203 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 2: This is a real bill. They've decided that there's an 204 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 2: epidemic of traffic deaths in California and the Bay Area, 205 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 2: and that speed is involved in a third of the deaths. 206 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 1: I read. 207 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: You know, this is something I gotta go find. I 208 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 2: read stuff and I file it away. There is a 209 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 2: story I read not too long ago, and it confirmed 210 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: what instinctively I thought was going on here. First of all, 211 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 2: the government lies a lot about traffic deaths. 212 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: They do. 213 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 2: They lie about the causes of the deaths because this 214 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 2: progressive obsession that we're dealing with wants to eliminate cars. 215 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 2: That's the ultimate goal. And they're willing to take decades, 216 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 2: step by step incrementally to limit and then eliminate your 217 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 2: motor vehicle. And by the way, the hardcore they don't 218 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: want to lecture cars either, don't don't want electric, they 219 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 2: don't want gas. They don't want you in a car. 220 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: They want you walking on a bike, or on a 221 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: bus or a train. Those are the four options that 222 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 2: they want to limit you to ultimately, so this step 223 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 2: would slow down your car. Now, I looked at some 224 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 2: research that was done, and they found out that the 225 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: increase in traffic deaths, let's say, in LA comes from 226 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 2: certain neighborhoods at certain times of day. 227 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: The neighborhoods are where there are more homeless people. 228 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 2: The times of day was late afternoon, early evening when 229 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: the homeless and we're likely to be ambling about in 230 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 2: their drug stoopers, and there's obviously more traffic on the road. 231 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: So if you have more people stumbling around, and we've 232 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 2: all seen them in the street, right and we've all 233 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 2: seen their homeless camps spilling over into the street. And 234 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 2: I've had guys jump in front of me while I'm 235 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 2: dry on San mave Santi Boulevard when they allowed that 236 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 2: stupid homeless encampment in front of the VA for four years. 237 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 2: I'd make a turn off Wilsher, go up Sam Vicente, 238 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 2: and guys would just jump out from behind their tents 239 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 2: and you had to do a constant you were like 240 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: zigzagging around bodies and crazy people. Well, of course, a 241 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: certain percentage of those people get run down, and that 242 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: is one of the big reasons that there's allegedly been 243 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 2: more fatalities. I don't have all the numbers here, and 244 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 2: I certainly don't trust Scott Weener, but letting people live 245 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 2: in the streets while they're drunk, drugged up, mentally ill, yeah, 246 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 2: some of them are going to get run down, so 247 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 2: they're going to use that excuse now to limit our speed. 248 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 2: Now I can tell you this. I was one and 249 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 2: I've told both these stories before, but I'm not going 250 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 2: to tell them at any length. Here happened to my 251 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: wife and I once we got chased. Oh, it was 252 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: a road rage thing. My wife did something I think 253 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 2: cut a guy off as we're going up north on 254 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 2: betting A Canyon. It was late on a Friday or 255 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 2: Saturday night, and we started getting flashed. Somebody was flashing 256 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: headlights at us. Group of young guys, probably gang members. 257 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 2: They start chasing us up bettedt A Canyon and then 258 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 2: into our neighborhood and we had to pass our house 259 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 2: and we almost ended up imprisoned in a cul de sac. 260 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 2: And my wife is trying to go faster and faster 261 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 2: to get away from these guys. Now, if you have 262 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 2: a speed governor on your car, you can't do that. 263 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 2: And you know how many bad guys are out there now, right, 264 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 2: and how many people have guns in their car, So 265 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 2: we're supposed to be sitting ducks, so the likes of 266 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: Marcus Aureiz can fire at us. And then she was 267 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 2: once driving into Sherman Oaks, and same thing happened. Somebody 268 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 2: decided to start chasing her, tried to cut her off, 269 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 2: like to try to pass her up, pass her up 270 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 2: on a Ventura Bullard and then block her car, and 271 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 2: she had to dodge to the left, dodge to the right. 272 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 2: She tried to pull in a parking lot. The guy 273 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 2: pulled into the parking lot next door and cut her off, 274 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: and she had to speed away eventually back down then 275 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 2: to her boulevard. She's got one of these speed limited on. 276 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 2: I don't know what the well, we don't know what 277 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: the guy wanted to do. Nothing good. Eventually she sped 278 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 2: away and got away from them. So who the hell 279 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: is Scott Weener to say that my wife and I 280 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 2: are supposed to just sit and take the bullet. He 281 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: is a dangerous nut. And it's one thing of San 282 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 2: Francisco wants morons like this governing their stupid, disgusting, filthy city. 283 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: But it's not gonna spread elsewhere. I mean, this is 284 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 2: just not gonna fly. And we're gonna we're going to 285 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 2: fight this one. We're going to fight this one to 286 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: the death. 287 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: All right. 288 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: We come back Jay Bieber and he's been fighting these 289 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: these nutty driving laws for many years. Longtime guest on 290 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: our show, We'll talk to him. 291 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM 292 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 7: six forty Oh. 293 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 2: The moistline is U God, Tomorrow's Friday, already, moistline is 294 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 2: tomorrow eight seven seven moist eighty six, eight seven seven, 295 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 2: moist eighty six. 296 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: So get in on that. 297 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 2: If you want to get in on that, you gotta call, 298 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 2: you know, almost immediately, So don't just sit there. 299 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 6: We love moistline callers. 300 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 2: Hey, I meant to ask you, what do you think 301 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 2: of having a limitter on your. 302 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 8: Speed I if you didn't give that example of you 303 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 8: and your wife, I was going to say the exact 304 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 8: same thing. I don't want to be at a disadvantage. 305 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 8: Somebody's chasing me and I'm pushed in the gas and 306 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 8: I can't go no way, And not to mention that 307 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 8: it's only for new cars, so it's not it's just 308 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 8: not fair. You have some people, right they can't go 309 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,959 Speaker 8: over ten miles above the speed limit, and then you 310 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 8: have other people that can still go ninety to one 311 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 8: hundred miles. 312 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: No, no, you're gonna be the dead duck on the freeway. No, 313 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 2: when all those people go ninety miles an hour riding 314 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 2: up on your rear end. 315 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 6: I'm just not gonna buy a new car if that happened. 316 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: No, there's no point buying new cars. You can't buy 317 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 2: gas powered cars. You can't buy cars that could go 318 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 2: full speed. No, they're going to destroy the automobile industry 319 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 2: in California. I mean, I'm gonna hold on. I'm gonna 320 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 2: buy ice, and I mean this, I'm gonna buy an 321 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,719 Speaker 2: extra car. I'm gonna hold onto my current car until 322 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 2: it falls to pieces. And then when false to pieces, 323 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have this backup car that I'm gonna use. 324 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 2: Maybe you're gonna try to ride to the end on 325 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 2: these two cars. 326 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 9: I think you need to buy two new cars. Yeah, 327 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,239 Speaker 9: and keep them. Yeah, I know I'm gonna have to 328 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 9: like rent garage space somewhere. All right, Let's get Jay 329 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 9: Bieber on Ja Biber. 330 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: We've had on for years because he always with his 331 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: organizations fight these stupid laws that cities, counties in the 332 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 2: state of California are always pushing through. 333 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: Jay, how are you. 334 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 10: Well other than this stupid law? I've been pretty good, 335 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 10: all right, you are the executive was the most ridiculous 336 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 10: thing ever. 337 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: The executive director is the National Motorist Association. 338 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 10: Yes, I have been elevated. 339 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: I was going to say, this is a real job. 340 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 2: Now this is a new title. Last time you were 341 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 2: doing something the local. 342 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 10: In LA, Yeah it was Yeah, it was LA. And 343 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 10: now I'm responsible for this nonsense all over the country. 344 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 10: So just to give a little quick background, we have 345 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 10: the National Motors Association been around since the nineteen eighties 346 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 10: fighting these things and was responsible for eliminating the fifty 347 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 10: five mile an hour speed limit, the national fifty five 348 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 10: mile an hour speed limit, and I finally did that 349 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 10: in the nineties, and then it has been working on 350 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 10: the stubber percent. I've been working with the organization on 351 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 10: and off, you know, just sort of tangentially. And then 352 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 10: there was a change of leadership and they asked me 353 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 10: to come on and hit the organization. So it's a 354 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 10: great organisation people should join. 355 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,479 Speaker 2: All right, Before we get started about the law, if 356 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 2: you could explain how this technology works. I assume the 357 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: way there's a there's a speed limit that pops up 358 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 2: at my dashboard. I guess that's all software that's imported 359 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 2: into the car's computer, and the same thing whenever I 360 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 2: use any kind of traffic system like the ways that right, 361 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: they know what the speed limit is as well, and 362 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 2: it flashes when you're over the speed lin So tell 363 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 2: me this is going to be I guess mandatory, And 364 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 2: how does it make a car slow down if you're 365 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 2: going ten miles over the limit. 366 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 10: So first of all, you should know that the federal 367 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 10: government has been pushing this as well, so this is 368 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 10: not just the state thing, but there's rulemaking at the 369 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 10: federal level, primarily focused on trucks, but obviously the intent 370 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 10: is to eventually roll it out to all vehicles. But 371 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 10: you know, crazy California has to jump right to all vehicles. 372 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 10: But the way the technology works is it pretty much 373 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 10: as you described there. There's a GPS system in your government. 374 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 10: All cars right now are computers. So there's a computer 375 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 10: in your car. It can it knows what roadway you're 376 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 10: on and what the speed limit is. It's not perfect though, 377 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 10: because if you know, sometimes the ways and the and 378 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 10: the Google maps, they're not right, especially where a speed 379 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 10: limits temporarily even changed, So so it's not perfect and 380 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 10: it would limit your vehicle. So it could not go 381 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 10: above a certain amount and especially amount of speed over 382 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,239 Speaker 10: the speed limit. This is dangerous technology, This is this 383 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 10: is really dangerous. You've in the intro had mentioned a 384 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 10: lot of the reasons why, uh, this is this is 385 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,479 Speaker 10: dangerous because sometimes you do have to speed up. You 386 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,239 Speaker 10: do have to speed up to avoid an accident, you 387 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 10: do have to speed up to avoid another crazy person 388 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 10: on the road. There's lots of reasons why you might 389 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 10: have to exceed the speed limit reasonably. But also you 390 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 10: you sort of tangent mentioned this, which is that speed 391 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 10: variation between different vehicles is extremely dangerous. That's actually much 392 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 10: more dangerous than vehicles all traveling the same speed but 393 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 10: just a little bit higher than somebody would would prefer. 394 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 10: So what you would have if these vehicles were on 395 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 10: the roadway is, once the new vehicles, assuming anybody would 396 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 10: would be willing to buy one, they people driving those 397 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 10: vehicles would be limited and everybody else because it takes 398 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 10: you know, twenty thirty maybe even forty years now for 399 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 10: the for the vehicle for me to change over, and 400 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 10: so you would see during that whole period of time 401 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 10: a huge variation in speed and the most dangerous thing 402 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 10: you can do. Quite frankly on the roadway is change lanes, 403 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 10: even if you're doing it safely. You know, changing the 404 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 10: lane is actually pretty dangerous. Compared to just driving along 405 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 10: and going at a little higher speed, we would be dangerous. 406 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 2: You know, if you have a car that's going the spa, 407 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 2: you have to speed up to try to get around him. 408 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 2: And if you have a car going plus ten over 409 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 2: the limit and you run up against the speed governor, 410 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: well you can't get around him. 411 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: And let's say he's. 412 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 2: Weaving doing something dangerous. It's like, oh, I want to 413 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 2: get away from this guy. You know, there's smoke coming 414 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 2: out of the back of his car. You can't go 415 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 2: fifteen or twenty miles even for a brief period. And 416 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 2: that's dangerous too and frustrating, and that's going to lead 417 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 2: to more road. 418 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 10: Round right, and think about rural roads. Okay, maybe that's 419 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 10: completely roll, but roads where you might have a two 420 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 10: lane road with a dotted line and you can then 421 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 10: go and pass that. The person in front of you 422 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 10: who's are a truck or something like that, you have 423 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 10: to speed up a lot to safely pass that vehicle 424 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 10: and then merge back into the travel lane on your 425 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 10: side of the roadway. So this is another reason why 426 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 10: this is incredibly dangerous. But the other thing is that 427 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 10: speed limits, as you know because we've discussed this with 428 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 10: our old friend Laura Friedman and her ridiculous bills that 429 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 10: she you got passed to lower speed limits arbitrarily, is 430 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 10: that the speed limits are being arbitrarily lowered now, so 431 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 10: they don't even match the speed that the roadway is 432 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 10: built for. And so right there, you has to be 433 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 10: a variation. But think about how much control over our lives. 434 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 10: All they have to do now is just change the 435 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 10: speed limit and you'll have to go twenty miles an 436 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 10: hour because that's what the limiting technology in the. 437 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: Vehicle, right So that's another trick they're going to have. 438 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 2: They're gonna keep artificially lowering the speed limit well what's necessary, 439 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 2: and they're gonna grind everybody to a halt exactly. 440 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 10: And this is this is part of the things that 441 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 10: we're concerned about with this automated vehicle technology, which is 442 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 10: which is all they have to do is control the 443 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 10: car because it's very hard to control human beings all 444 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 10: that much, but you can control technology. And this is 445 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 10: all about control over your life. Make no mistake. They 446 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 10: claim this is about safety. It is not about safety. 447 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 10: I can give you some statistics on that, but this 448 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 10: is all about impairing your ability to freely travel using 449 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 10: your prove your chosen mode of transportation. It is not 450 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 10: about safety. Anybody who falls for the safety argument is 451 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 10: a fool. I'm sorry to say that for some people 452 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 10: who believe this, but you are a fool if you 453 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 10: believe that this is really about somebody trying to make 454 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 10: you safer. It is about trying to control your life. 455 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 10: They don't like people who live in suburbia, who drive cars, 456 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 10: who live a middle class lifestyle, and they want to 457 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 10: destroy that. That is the goal of a lot of 458 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 10: these people, mostly coming from the left, and they are 459 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 10: they hate you because you are successful middle class. There's 460 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 10: a whole bunch of unsuccessful people who can't afford a car, 461 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 10: and so they have to dumb everything down to get 462 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 10: everybody down to the level of the people that they 463 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 10: claim they want to help. But of course this doesn't 464 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 10: help those people because those people are still immobile. In fact, 465 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 10: the study out of UCLA no Less said the best 466 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 10: way to get people out of poverty is to get 467 00:24:54,880 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 10: them a car. Yeah, all of the poor people. 468 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 2: I knew that when I was sixteen, because the summer 469 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 2: I turned seventeen, I took my test and I immediately 470 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 2: had a full time job that summer that I could 471 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 2: drive to. And that's the only thing was on my 472 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 2: mind is if I passed this test, I got a 473 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 2: job waiting for me, and if I don't pass the test, 474 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: I can't have the job. Of course, it bright good lord, 475 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 2: I can't believe what we're living under here. I mean, 476 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 2: the poor Russians back in during the Cold War had 477 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 2: it better than this. 478 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 10: Well, it's so funny. I just talked about this in 479 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 10: an interview elsewhere, and I talked about the fact that 480 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 10: when I graduated college, I went to the Soviet Union, 481 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 10: still the Soviet Union, and I was amazed at the 482 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 10: fact that you do about the amount of restrictions on 483 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 10: travel that there were from parts of the country, one 484 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 10: part of the country to the other part of the country. 485 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 10: And I was like, wow, thank god I live in America. Well, 486 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 10: guess what a couple of decades later, we are experiencing 487 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 10: this now. It's obviously not the same way in terms 488 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 10: of saying like we're going to restrict you from traveling here. 489 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 10: They're going to do it little by little by little 490 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 10: and make sure that you can't drive your car where 491 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 10: you want to go, when you want to go, how 492 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 10: you want to go. And they want everybody on public 493 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 10: transportation that is less efficient and makes you less prosperous, 494 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 10: makes you have, you know, less ability to buy things, 495 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 10: and commerce that they hate commerce, They just hate. 496 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 2: What. The percentage of people who are communists in this 497 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 2: country is pretty tiny. 498 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: It seems they're all in government. 499 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 10: Well that's what government attracts, especially in California. Yeah, I mean, look, 500 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 10: i'd you know, we we've talked about this before, and 501 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 10: I'll mention this on the air, probably for the first time. 502 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 10: I fled California. I'm in I'm in Arizona now. I 503 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 10: just couldn't take it anymore. It was just ridiculous. I 504 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 10: saw the handwriting on the law, and like everybody said, oh, 505 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 10: it's going to get so bad, there's going to be 506 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 10: a backlash. Guess what. We're still waiting for the backlash 507 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 10: to come. So I'm still working on things in California, 508 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 10: but I'm working on things all over the entry and 509 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 10: it's it's just too overbearing. But the problem is that 510 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 10: if this passes in California. There's a similar bill in 511 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 10: New York State, by the way, And if this passes, 512 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 10: then of course vehicle manufacturers are going to put these 513 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 10: on a vehicle. So not just going to create vehicles 514 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 10: for California, well everywhere, so they get you, except. 515 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 2: The electric vehicle is a debacle is a good template. 516 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 2: People could choose not to buy these things because they 517 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 2: don't want them, and I think that would happen here 518 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 2: as well. Listen, I have to go, Uh, just one 519 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 2: final thing that we have a lot of middle class 520 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 2: suburban people who need their cars to get to work 521 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 2: and want the freedom to evade a bad guy chasing 522 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,719 Speaker 2: them on the freeway. What should they do? I know 523 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 2: Scott Wiener is the author of this bill. What should 524 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 2: they do? 525 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 10: There's two things you can do. First of all, go 526 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 10: to our website motoris dot org. 527 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: Sign up. 528 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 10: You can just sign up for our newsletter. But but 529 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 10: contest ends email. Say you're say you're in say you're 530 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 10: in California. Uh, we'll contact you directly. Become a member, 531 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 10: We'll contact you directly. It's really it's forty two dollars 532 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 10: a year. It's nothing for for for all the work 533 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 10: that we're doing. And then and if you also want 534 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 10: you need to call they make a fold. In fact, 535 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 10: you know what, we we did this with I forget 536 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 10: the guy's name with with the Devil's Bille. We should 537 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 10: set up a time where where welcome on the air, 538 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 10: and we'll set up a day where everybody makes a 539 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 10: phone call both to UH center we aren't shut down 540 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 10: his office, and also to the heads of the transportation committees, 541 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 10: because that's where this is going to get decided to 542 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 10: create something. 543 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 2: Okay, you talked to Ray. Let's set a date and 544 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 2: a time. We'll do that. I gotta run. 545 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 7: You're listening to John Covelt on demand from kf I 546 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 7: A M six forty. 547 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 2: And boy, if you're just poining in now, you got 548 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 2: to go to the podcast later and listen to our 549 00:28:55,640 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 2: last discussion with Jay Jay Bieber from the National Murder Association. 550 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 2: Scott Wiener that that human infection from San Francisco. He's 551 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 2: a state senator. He's got this incredibly intrusive, stupid communist 552 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 2: idea that would force cars to have a speed governor, 553 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 2: something that would limit your speed and prevent you from 554 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 2: driving more than ten miles an hour over the speed limit, 555 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 2: and Jay Bieber said, one day soon, we're going to 556 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 2: have him on and we'll pick a designated day and time, 557 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 2: and we're going to have to flood Scott Wiener's office 558 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 2: with phone calls and emails and messages and try to 559 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,479 Speaker 2: stop this atrocity from happening. Imagine having a car and 560 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 2: this would happen in twenty the twenty twenty seven model year, 561 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 2: and those usually will come out on about six months 562 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 2: ahead of time, the model year. It'll be mid twenty 563 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 2: twenty six, two and a half years from now. No, no, no, no, 564 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 2: this is this is not gonna fly. This has got 565 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 2: to stop in tandem with that, quite a coincidence. But 566 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 2: we're gonna have Chris Legras on next and he has 567 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 2: been fighting here in Los Angeles. This mobility plan. If 568 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 2: you've been to Santa Monica, you know what I'm talking about. 569 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 2: It is a maze of bus lanes, bike lanes, crosswalks 570 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 2: that flash, all kinds of lights that are flickering on 571 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 2: and off. There's red lanes, there's green lanes, there's crisscross intersections. 572 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: It's really confusing. 573 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 2: It has shrunk the usable traffic lanes down to the 574 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 2: point where there's constant backups everywhere and what's left of 575 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 2: the El Segundo Times. 576 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: The editorial board. 577 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 2: Is endorsing the city's Mobility Plan twenty thirty five. This 578 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 2: is left over, some leftover fecal matter from Eric Arcetti 579 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 2: to redesign the streets over the next twenty years to 580 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 2: turn them into a safe place for walking, biking and 581 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 2: transit but not cars. Yeah, the ghost of the late 582 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 2: Eric Garcetti is back. Hundreds of miles of bus only lanes, 583 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 2: protected bike lanes, sidewalk and streetscape enhancements. 584 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: You know what that means. 585 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 2: You're gonna have more sidewalks and streetscapes edging into the roadway, 586 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 2: taking away lanes. They have done very little because we 587 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 2: successfully blocked a road diet in Plyadel Ray some years 588 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 2: ago and that sent Garcetti and Mike Bond into hiding 589 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 2: and they did not pursue much more of this. Well, 590 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 2: now it's come back time. Everything was in remission during 591 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 2: the pandemic, So we're gonna talk to Chris Lagras about this. 592 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 2: This is in the same category. 593 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: You can see. It's a coordinated effort. 594 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 2: It's to get you permanently out of your car, that 595 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 2: you cannot live in the city of Los Angeles and 596 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 2: drive a car. That's what they want. And uh, you know, 597 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 2: this is our city too, this is our state too. 598 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 2: You know, normal people who drive, who have families, who 599 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 2: own homes. God do they hate us. And you know what, 600 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 2: every one of these people fighting fighting for this nonsense. 601 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 2: They're all weirdos. You ever see Scott Wiener, hear him talk, 602 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 2: He's a weirdo. These are all weirdo people. I don't 603 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 2: know anybody like these people, and you don't either. And 604 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 2: then after that, since the El Segunda Times has put 605 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 2: themselves back in play and they wonder why nobody reads 606 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 2: their paper anymore, there's a story in an entertainment site 607 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 2: called the Wrap dot com Chaos and fury engulf the 608 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 2: Los Angeles Times after all those job cuts the other day. 609 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 2: And it's really funny because they got an editorial board 610 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 2: here that is pushing this mobility plan so we can't 611 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 2: drive anymore in Los Angeles, and they pushed George Gascone. Yeah, 612 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 2: George Gascone is letting out all those criminals and we're 613 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 2: not able to drive our cars more than ten miles 614 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 2: over the limit. Huh right, good idea. Well, the time 615 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 2: supports that all the journalists that have gotten fired in 616 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 2: the last week. They're not angry with that nonsense which 617 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 2: is driven away readers. They're angry that a lot of 618 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 2: diversity journalists have been fired because they went with the 619 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 2: union contract first, the most recently hired journalists were the 620 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 2: most recently fired journalists, and of course that led to 621 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 2: a lot of diversity journalists getting the cut. So we'll 622 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 2: talk about that coming up. Deborah Mark is live in 623 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 2: the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. Hey, you've been listening 624 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 2: to the John Cobalt Show podcast. 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