Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to movie Crush Mini Crush a dish, right, No,
Speaker 1: I mean it seems that way, but you know, appearances
Speaker 1: can be deceiving. Oh does that mean that you're secretly
Speaker 1: some famous actor I'm about to interview, but his favorite movie.
Speaker 1: I'm a fantastic impersonator. I'm impersonating myself doing a bad
Speaker 1: impersonation of an actor you've never heard of. That sounds
Speaker 1: a lot like me. Well, it's eight what thirty? So
Speaker 1: you're clearly just trying to confuse me. I did a
Speaker 1: weird thing too. I accidentally got up to early and
Speaker 1: dropped my kid off at camp too early. And then
Speaker 1: we're like, well, ship, we gotta go do something now,
Speaker 1: and so we went to the gas station and just
Speaker 1: kind of hung out until you know, a little father
Speaker 1: daughter bonding in the morning start the day off? So
Speaker 1: what what kind of campusing? Cheer cheerleading camp? But all
Speaker 1: I do is swim, So I don't quite understand. Why
Speaker 1: don't cheerleading and like synchronized swimming? I got it's her
Speaker 1: mom deals with all that stuff. I didn't you pick
Speaker 1: her up? Alright, Well that's interesting, so no, you know
Speaker 1: my day. I appreciate you accommodating me for us. You
Speaker 1: sounds like you have a rager. Well, first of all,
Speaker 1: we need to get ahead of the game on these crushes.
Speaker 1: I feel like every two weeks were scrambling. It's true. Um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, we realized that we didn't have a mini
Speaker 1: for next week, and I am, uh, well, I'm going
Speaker 1: to Denver in a couple of hours. Nice to perform
Speaker 1: to live shows tonight and tomorrow night. And so we
Speaker 1: record these too many crushes and then I speed to
Speaker 1: the airport, jump on a plane. Don't speed though, Chuck,
Speaker 1: I drive the limit. I fly to Denver and then
Speaker 1: uh maybe a little downtime at the hotel where I
Speaker 1: can prep and then write some comedy out and then
Speaker 1: go to the show. You write these things out? Uh no,
Speaker 1: just make a little note jokes, bullets, joke notes for
Speaker 1: the for the opening fifteen minutes, I just tell jokes. Um.
Speaker 1: I me and uh my friend and coworker Ben Boland
Speaker 1: are doing our first ever live show for our show
Speaker 1: Ridiculous History the Trocadero Theater in Philly. I'm really concerned.
Speaker 1: It's a very large room. I'm not sure if our
Speaker 1: show is popular enough to accommodate it, but it'll feel good.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll cordon off like like eight, like a
Speaker 1: square of seats, you know, for all eight people to
Speaker 1: sit there. But we're talking about our warm up material.
Speaker 1: We're kind of trying to not make it too written. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, we're working on it, but we're excited. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Here's here's what I do. Typically is the day of
Speaker 1: the show. I will scribble out, um, it's six or
Speaker 1: seven ideas for funny jokes, and then tell them on
Speaker 1: stage in a very haphazard way, and then throw that
Speaker 1: note into the crowd. That's about what oh you oh?
Speaker 1: The physically throw the note? Well, I handed to somebody
Speaker 1: like almost like a rock star throwing a guitar pick.
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool, man. Alright. Uh, you know, the Trocadero
Speaker 1: was kind of a legendary rock club. I've heard about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. I remember seeing someone sent around on Facebook
Speaker 1: one time a picture of a Trocadero like monthly calendar
Speaker 1: from the early nineties, the one with like Queen and
Speaker 1: like Sebadoh and like all these seminal It was just
Speaker 1: who's who loaded pavement? Queen Sebado's cool. I do remember
Speaker 1: that it was literally like every other night, just a
Speaker 1: who's who of nineties awesome rock man. That was the
Speaker 1: Trocadero Feast. Yeah, yeah, I think you're right. That's okay, cool,
Speaker 1: I'm part of yeah, slacker rock history. That's right, you
Speaker 1: were anyway, all right, So nol let's get going here.
Speaker 1: We got a new segment this week called almost Famous.
Speaker 1: All right. This is where I cover and of course
Speaker 1: some of these people are still famous, of course, but
Speaker 1: this is where I cover roles that famous, uh, actors
Speaker 1: and actresses turned down that went on to be super
Speaker 1: big movies. And sometimes the actors languished in obscurity. Sometimes
Speaker 1: sometimes they did, okay anyway, but uh, we'll do a
Speaker 1: couple of these over the next couple of months. All right.
Speaker 1: So first, of course, very famously Indiana Jones you know,
Speaker 1: was almost played by Tom Selleck. Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: how I feel about that. Well, that's one of those
Speaker 1: things where so iconic at this point you just can't
Speaker 1: even imagine, you can't even imagine. No, he actually literally
Speaker 1: had to choose between Raiders of the Lost Arc and
Speaker 1: Magnet p I, and um chose Magnum p I. He
Speaker 1: would have had the Stash as Indiana. I know, because
Speaker 1: Selik without the statue is weird looking. It's not even
Speaker 1: Sellek anymore. It's nothing else. John Travolta was Robert Zemeckis'
Speaker 1: first choice to play for est Gump absurd. What are
Speaker 1: you thinking? Zamaka's Yeah, come on, well, I could have
Speaker 1: said about a lot of things. That's Robert Zamaica's decides
Speaker 1: these days. Uh. Wolverine, now this one. Doug ray Scott
Speaker 1: was cast as Wolverine and was like, I don't know
Speaker 1: who that is, Um, look at my pe might recognize him.
Speaker 1: He's uh was he British? Maybe Scottish? Um? He was
Speaker 1: ready to shoot like cast and the shoot was approaching,
Speaker 1: and I believe he had some last minute scheduling conflicts
Speaker 1: with Mission Impossible too, and he was like, I don't
Speaker 1: know about this whole comic book X Men thing. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with Mission Impossible to seven movies later. I
Speaker 1: think Wolverine and Hugh Jackman are like peanut butter and jelly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're intertwined forever in all time, and you have to
Speaker 1: look up to do g Ray Scott and I can't
Speaker 1: even find him. I can't even not spell his name.
Speaker 1: He's not coming up, clearly not not a huge thing.
Speaker 1: It's Doug Ray. Basically, Julia Robert uh went on to big,
Speaker 1: big stardom after Pretty Woman, but Darryl Hannah originally was
Speaker 1: going to play that role, and she turned it down
Speaker 1: because she didn't want to be uh play a call girl,
Speaker 1: a sex worker. She thought that that was demeaning to women. Um.
Speaker 1: And then interestingly, later on and dancing at the Blue Iguana,
Speaker 1: she would go on to play a striper. So maybe
Speaker 1: that's an empowering yeah for her to her like I
Speaker 1: can see that Dirty Harry. Do you ever see any
Speaker 1: of those movies? No, that's a little above your come
Speaker 1: on really well no, I mean it's you're you're kind
Speaker 1: of young for the Dirty Harry series. I thought you
Speaker 1: met like it was like beneath me or something. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: like it wasn't in your wheelhouse, Like I grew up
Speaker 1: on the tail end of Dirty Harry, where like everyone
Speaker 1: a bunch of father was obsessed with it. Are there
Speaker 1: a lot of Dirty harryes? I mean they were maybe four,
Speaker 1: maybe five. They all have subtitles or is it like
Speaker 1: Dirty Harry one through four? Well, I believe was called
Speaker 1: there was one called Dirty Harry. Uh, now they're all
Speaker 1: different title. I like that like um, but obviously Clintics
Speaker 1: would own that role. Um. Frank Sinatra was actually Dirty
Speaker 1: Harry until he broke his wrist during filming. Interesting, so
Speaker 1: he was gonna be and was Dirty Harry. That's cool, Frank,
Speaker 1: how about that. I don't think I just don't think
Speaker 1: of him as an actor. I know, I know he's
Speaker 1: in some big Hollywood pictures, but I don't think of
Speaker 1: him that way. Yeah. I mean, obviously it's singing is
Speaker 1: what comes to mind first, but he was pretty good actor.
Speaker 1: Check out from Here to Eternity. Okay, that's a good wreck.
Speaker 1: I'll do it all right here. Uh Apocalypse Now legendary
Speaker 1: war film that was actually just covered on Friendly Fire
Speaker 1: the podcast with our buddies Adam Pranica, John Roderick, and
Speaker 1: Ben Harrison. Really good movie show. I'm really listening to
Speaker 1: a lot of movie podcasts now by the way, like
Speaker 1: Paul Paul Shears Unspooled. I'm listening to that. Oh I
Speaker 1: love him, so my any I'd like to hear that one.
Speaker 1: I'd like to listen to that. Yeah, I'm kind of
Speaker 1: getting into this where they talk about good movies instead
Speaker 1: of bad movies. That's right. Uh, so Apocalypse now, Francis
Speaker 1: Ford Coppola. Um actually shot a lot of this movie
Speaker 1: with Harvey Kitel in the role that Martin Sheen would
Speaker 1: go on to, uh to take. So this is one
Speaker 1: where he was recast well into shooting. Um, like Eric
Speaker 1: Stolts and back to the Future. When you see that
Speaker 1: Eric Stolts Back to the Future footage is Martin McFly.
Speaker 1: It's weird, Martin. I've never been able to focus. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can just google that up man watch it dominated
Speaker 1: scenes with Eric Stolt's playing Marty and it's just like
Speaker 1: bizarro world. That is strange, so strange. So, yeah, Harvey
Speaker 1: Kitel in the role that Martin Sheen would take and
Speaker 1: go on to great acclaim even though he was already
Speaker 1: into published actor. A few more here, Shawshank Redemption. Um.
Speaker 1: You cannot think of anyone else as Andy DeFraine but
Speaker 1: Tim Robbins, but Kevin Costner actually had that role in
Speaker 1: the bag and gave it up to start in what
Speaker 1: movie is it? Robin hood h worse water World, water World.
Speaker 1: He could have been, uh, he could have been in
Speaker 1: the Shawn Shank Redemption instead of water World. Good film,
Speaker 1: see that, you know most of these, all of these,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling good about the results. Yeah, yeah, No one's
Speaker 1: going like by John Travelt. Sure would have been a
Speaker 1: good Forest cump He would have been a weird Forrest.
Speaker 1: It totally would have been weird and creepy probably, uh,
Speaker 1: because Forrest Coump with hair plugs is just Forrest cump Um.
Speaker 1: One week into the film Aliens, the actor James Reemar
Speaker 1: bailed on the project because he had creative differences with
Speaker 1: Jim Cameron. So Michael Bean came in and played the
Speaker 1: part of Dwyne Hicks and James Remar great character actor
Speaker 1: for sure, but missed out on being in one of
Speaker 1: the great all time sci fi I've actually never heard
Speaker 1: of anyone having a problem with James Cameron. That's absurd.
Speaker 1: He just seems like a really easy going, straightforward what
Speaker 1: you see is what you get kind of dude. What
Speaker 1: she sees what you get kind of dick. Uh. Samantha
Speaker 1: Morton Finally, this one is interesting because she had done
Speaker 1: the voiceover for the entire film of her The Great
Speaker 1: Great Spike Jones movie, and it was finished and in
Speaker 1: post production. In the edit, Spike Jones was like, the
Speaker 1: voice isn't quite right, and he got Scarlett Johansson in there,
Speaker 1: scar Joe to redo the entire voice over. That's interesting
Speaker 1: because I like Samantha Morton a lot and she has
Speaker 1: a similarly mellifluous voice. I could see it working with her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would. I'd be curious to hear that. I don't
Speaker 1: know why. Um but you know he's the vision area
Speaker 1: is I'm not gonna doubt Spike Jones. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you know who are we? Who are we? Just a
Speaker 1: couple of chubby bearded dudes, which we're we're chucking an
Speaker 1: old apparently? All right, nol So that was almost famous.
Speaker 1: Did you like that? I did like it very much. Yes.
Speaker 1: We got a new one next week too, and I'm
Speaker 1: trying to freshen things up here. It surprise me, all right,
Speaker 1: all right, moving on to highlight reel today, I'm going
Speaker 1: to cover h great, great director into me a very
Speaker 1: underrated director in his career. Mr Jonathan Demi sadly passed
Speaker 1: away in April of two thousand seventeen, and um boy,
Speaker 1: Demmy was just one of those dudes. To me that
Speaker 1: uh never. I mean, he got his due here and there,
Speaker 1: but always was sort of under the radar to me
Speaker 1: for best of lists. You don't think Maybe that's because
Speaker 1: his catalog is kind of all over the place. It's
Speaker 1: hard to pin him down. Well, I think that's why.
Speaker 1: I probably Yeah, I think you're right. That probably has
Speaker 1: something to do with it. One of the greatest concert
Speaker 1: movies of all time. Stop making Sense, Ye did, and
Speaker 1: that just holds up in so many ways. And obviously
Speaker 1: Signs of the Lands, but they remember the movie more
Speaker 1: than they do him and Jonnie Foster and obviously Anthony Hopkins,
Speaker 1: but people don't talk about that being Jonathan Demi's a movie.
Speaker 1: I know he's He's and you know what, that's probably
Speaker 1: the mark of a brilliant director. He's not trying to
Speaker 1: call attention to himself with signature moves with the camera.
Speaker 1: Jonathan Demi's Silence of the Lambs at Jonathan Demi film
Speaker 1: Jonathan Demi Joint. Uh no, he he He disappears as
Speaker 1: director um by doing everything just pinpoint accurate and perfect.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you're right. He he straddled. He's one of
Speaker 1: the few directors and I admire all the directors that
Speaker 1: do this, that do documentaries and films throughout their entire
Speaker 1: career and just pushes the envelope with different stuff. I mean, dude,
Speaker 1: he did three Neil Young concert documentaries. I didn't know that, Like,
Speaker 1: how great is that? I had no idea. One wasn't
Speaker 1: good enough to wasn't good enough, and of course, like
Speaker 1: you said, stopped making sense. One of the best of
Speaker 1: all time, so good. Started his career, like many many
Speaker 1: directors working for Roger Corman, the exploitation director began as
Speaker 1: a writer and producer, then directed a few of those
Speaker 1: Roger Corman exploitation films, which was like film school basically
Speaker 1: for when I hear a lot of guys are you know,
Speaker 1: ultimately became luminaries. Started off in that camp kind of
Speaker 1: oh for sure. Uh. And then his very first sort
Speaker 1: of non exploitation film was a movie called Melvine and Howard,
Speaker 1: which wasn't a big big hit, but uh scored well
Speaker 1: with the critics and a very interesting start to his career.
Speaker 1: He never made the same movie twice. He went on
Speaker 1: to make the uh I think World War two movie, um, well,
Speaker 1: world War two kind of comedy, uh romance, Swing Shift,
Speaker 1: after that, uh, and then immediately went to Stop Making Sense,
Speaker 1: which he won the National Society Film Critics Award for
Speaker 1: Best Documentary. Amazing. It's it's funny. It's kind of funny
Speaker 1: to call that a documentary. I mean it is, I guess,
Speaker 1: but it's like it's a concert. Like there's no there's
Speaker 1: no interviews that concert film documentary. Sure. Yeah. Um the
Speaker 1: action comedy romance of comedy Something Wild with Jeff Daniels
Speaker 1: and Millie Griffith's Move pretty good road movie. Yeah yeah. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then again takes a right turn and does the
Speaker 1: film version of the stage production of Spalding Gray Swimming
Speaker 1: to Cambodia. I never heard of this one, um man.
Speaker 1: You know Spaulding Gray, I'm aware, but on Late Tangentially
Speaker 1: he's a monologuist, so he did these long hour and
Speaker 1: a half sit at a table monologues and one was
Speaker 1: called Swimming to Cambodia in seven and uh and Demmi
Speaker 1: did the film version of that. Interesting. Yeah. So again
Speaker 1: he's just not you can't pin him down. And I've
Speaker 1: not heard of a lot of these spots. And as
Speaker 1: his cannon, you know, did the New York Mafia comedy
Speaker 1: Married to the Mob, which is the first movie that
Speaker 1: the notorious Goodbye Horses from the you know was that
Speaker 1: in that That's that's where that was in that movie
Speaker 1: for the first time, and they used it again the
Speaker 1: iconically in Silence of the Lambs. Interesting, that's q Q Lazarus,
Speaker 1: the artist who was a cab driver early I believe
Speaker 1: trans artists back in you know when that wasn't really
Speaker 1: out in the mainstream and that never really did anything else.
Speaker 1: But I think that song is just so iconic and
Speaker 1: creepy and and Kate bushy kind of to me. I
Speaker 1: love I love that song. Yeah, I was playing that
Speaker 1: in the house the other day, And of course it
Speaker 1: can only make me think of one thing, which is
Speaker 1: Penis stuck the tuck after Silence of the Lambs, which
Speaker 1: one the like I said in My Favorite Murder episode,
Speaker 1: one of only three films to win the Big Five
Speaker 1: Best Picture, Director, Screenplay, Actor, and Actress. Also insanely rare
Speaker 1: for anything, even approaching a horror movie to get that
Speaker 1: kind of Oscar love, like, yeah, uh, and then let's
Speaker 1: go make Philadelphia the first major film to address the
Speaker 1: AIDS crisis, and to Hanks, one his first Oscar and
Speaker 1: really catapulted Tom Hanks to superstar him. Had no idea
Speaker 1: he directed that. Yeah, obviously super familiar with that movie
Speaker 1: because it gets accolades for the things you just said,
Speaker 1: but not tied to his name. That's just so interesting
Speaker 1: to me. This is fascinating. Uh. And then he winds
Speaker 1: up his career with a few movies that, um, well,
Speaker 1: actually I did see Tony Morrison's Beloved, Um, great great movie.
Speaker 1: Did not see the Truth about Charlie or uh Manchurian
Speaker 1: Candidate remake, did not see the one of those, So
Speaker 1: those are on my list. Uh. And then in two
Speaker 1: thousand seven does another documentary, the great great documentary Man
Speaker 1: from Planes, about former President Jimmy Carter. Really really good duck.
Speaker 1: And then I started poking around. He directed some TV,
Speaker 1: did a couple of episodes of The Killing, which was
Speaker 1: a really really good TV show. He did two episodes
Speaker 1: of one of my favorite all time shows, Enlightened from
Speaker 1: Mike White and Laura Dern really really great movie and
Speaker 1: I'm sorry TV show. And then at the end of
Speaker 1: his career he really put himself on the map again
Speaker 1: with um sort of an indie flavored hit with Rachel
Speaker 1: getting married that's a good one, yeah, Jonathan Demi, isn't
Speaker 1: that the one there's somebody famous that plays music in that?
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it in Jonathan Richmond? No, it's Robin Hitchcock.
Speaker 1: Robin Hitchcock is like playing at the wedding. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: one scene and then then the guy from TV on
Speaker 1: the radio is in it too. Ten day. He was good.
Speaker 1: He's great. He's never done anything else. It's such interesting
Speaker 1: casting and it was. That's a good one. That's a
Speaker 1: real tea. Yeah. And he cast musicians in his movies
Speaker 1: a lot. He He clearly is a music was a
Speaker 1: music guy, and um, that's why he did so many
Speaker 1: music documentaries and stuff. Yeah. Robin Hitchcock is like this
Speaker 1: troubadour kind of guy at the wedding reception walking around
Speaker 1: playing guitar. Yeah, that's great. Alright, so my hat is
Speaker 1: off to you, Mr Jonathan Demi. Rest in peace, sir,
Speaker 1: h You're missed for sure. Um alright, Noel, We're gonna
Speaker 1: finish up with stream this and comic Card. Uh. You
Speaker 1: know what I've been watching lately on Netflix. I've been
Speaker 1: watching The Joy Painting with Bob Ross. I watch it
Speaker 1: all the time. I put it on before I go
Speaker 1: to bed. Yeah, it's just that just chills me out. Man,
Speaker 1: It's like a televisual joint. Yeah, it absolutely is. And uh,
Speaker 1: like you, I would imagine, I'm not watching this ironically
Speaker 1: in any way. Oh no, I love it. No, No,
Speaker 1: it's great. He's he's he's a delight, Like he's just
Speaker 1: this like pure Mr. Rogers level goodness of a human specimen,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, So I grew up
Speaker 1: watching this stuff in the eighties. It ran from eight
Speaker 1: three to ninety four, and I was literally in high
Speaker 1: school watching this show. And there's something about it that
Speaker 1: I mean, as an adult, I listened to his messaging,
Speaker 1: which is really interesting because it kind of escaped me
Speaker 1: some as a teenager. But just the act of putting
Speaker 1: these paintings together. If you haven't seen the show, he
Speaker 1: paints these landscapes. Uh, it's called a wet on wet
Speaker 1: oil technique, which base stically, you just keep adding paint
Speaker 1: on top of wet paint. You don't do a more
Speaker 1: traditional technique where you paint something, let it dry, then
Speaker 1: go back and paint. So it allows him to paint
Speaker 1: painting in thirty minutes, like that's not a camera trick.
Speaker 1: And he uses like the palette knife a lot to
Speaker 1: make little little swipes, little mountains and happy little trees
Speaker 1: and all that sifty little cloud safty little trees. There's
Speaker 1: a documentary about him. I believe that's supposed to be good.
Speaker 1: I think so. I think it's I'm pretty sure because
Speaker 1: I was just thinking that someone needs to do a
Speaker 1: good one. I don't know if I don't know if
Speaker 1: anyone's really tackling the right way. He's a former military guy,
Speaker 1: and he said in the military he at times had
Speaker 1: positions where he had to be what he called tough
Speaker 1: and mean, and uh decided that when he leads the military,
Speaker 1: he would never raise his voice again. And he did
Speaker 1: not how about that. Yeah, and that's not his real hair.
Speaker 1: He had straight hair. He had the blowout perm didn't
Speaker 1: really like it, but that became attached to his persona
Speaker 1: and was not able to ever have another here and
Speaker 1: now we have Bob ross Chia pets. To know what
Speaker 1: you think, I'm serious. You know that there's an element
Speaker 1: of the show that I always forgot about. He's like,
Speaker 1: he's just like he's always has these little animal friends. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he will rehab, squirrels and tunes and baby deer. One
Speaker 1: of them was named Pepod and he had him in
Speaker 1: his pocket and he's like, look at this little devil.
Speaker 1: He always calls him a little devil. Man, got you,
Speaker 1: got you right there? Uh, just a good soul, a
Speaker 1: good man. It wasn't one of these things where behind
Speaker 1: the scenes he was a monster. Apparently he did, um
Speaker 1: did have the creative control down on his show, but
Speaker 1: he wasn't. He was lovely to work with from what
Speaker 1: everyone said. There's one episode I watched the other day
Speaker 1: where he intros the show and then he intros his
Speaker 1: son and his son does the painting for the whole show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: his son, uh kind of did the same stuff for
Speaker 1: a little while, carried the mental I think there's a
Speaker 1: Bob Ross school of painting. Yeah, wet on wet probably
Speaker 1: that sounds anyway. I been watching it and it's really
Speaker 1: um nostalgist kicking in for me because I watched it
Speaker 1: in high school, like I said, but just the messaging
Speaker 1: as an adult to hear him, he's he's part uh
Speaker 1: part therapist as well, kind of guru. Yeah, like the
Speaker 1: things he's he's always teaching less life lessons through his painting,
Speaker 1: and it's it's not lost on me now as an adult.
Speaker 1: So is like anything, if you want to do anything,
Speaker 1: you know, you just just try it. You don't just
Speaker 1: just all you gotta do is just get that they
Speaker 1: low blue and and whatever. What are the names is?
Speaker 1: He's got some really like iconic colors Van Dyke, brown, brown,
Speaker 1: and he always flashes them across the screen. At the
Speaker 1: very beginning of the episode, Oh, that's so good. It's
Speaker 1: very good. We're gonna finish up with comic card Noel
Speaker 1: and read out five questions is from Ryan Zach. What
Speaker 1: are your feelings I'm breaking the fourth wall? Uh? And
Speaker 1: what film do you think has used it most cleverly? Well,
Speaker 1: if you don't know what that means, people, that means
Speaker 1: when the actor directly addresses the camera. It is a
Speaker 1: risk forture and it's hard to pull off, don't you think. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it certainly takes a deft hand to make it work. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the first one that comes to mind for me
Speaker 1: is is Ferris Spoolers Stay Off, very classic film that
Speaker 1: Matthew Broderick and John Hughes. They employed it perfectly. It's
Speaker 1: almost it's funny too. Because it's like you can see
Speaker 1: it working more in a comedy. Yeah right, yeah, so
Speaker 1: for certainly hard to do in a hard drama unless
Speaker 1: it's like really stylistic, like Oliver Stone has done it before.
Speaker 1: Like I remember Kevin Costner and JFK looked right at
Speaker 1: the camera and said something very heavy like as if
Speaker 1: I'm talking to you the American people. Interesting. You know,
Speaker 1: I've never seen j Yeah it was. It was okay,
Speaker 1: people like it though, I've seen it pop up in
Speaker 1: some favorite lists over the years. Uh. And then you know,
Speaker 1: one of my favorite things over the years growing up
Speaker 1: was in Burt Reynolds comedies. He would he he was
Speaker 1: known to break the fourth wall by just looking at
Speaker 1: the camera and on of smiling, give it a slide.
Speaker 1: Burt Reynolds wink, absolutely, dude, And it just worked because
Speaker 1: he was Burt. He probably wasn't even directed to do it.
Speaker 1: He just was like, Umber fucking Reynolds to do what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. Yeah, that's great, all right. Mike Mead
Speaker 1: is next twenty four hour Party people, another good fourth
Speaker 1: wall breaker. The Tony Roberts character or whatever that is.
Speaker 1: The whole thing's the whole thing. But it's a device.
Speaker 1: It works. It allows you to get a little exposition
Speaker 1: because he's kind of walking you through it. It's all
Speaker 1: these flashbacks and it's a great movie. That's a really
Speaker 1: good movie. It's about the the infamous Hassi and Club
Speaker 1: and was in Manchester and Enjoy Division and New Order
Speaker 1: and all those bands that came out of that scene.
Speaker 1: Really really cool. You know, I'm going to feature that
Speaker 1: director on hung Light real um winter Bottom I believe
Speaker 1: is that Michael Winterbottoms because he's another one of those
Speaker 1: that said all over the place, all over the map.
Speaker 1: I think that's becoming a recurring theme of like directors
Speaker 1: that we admire. It's true, like not doing this as
Speaker 1: much as I love Wes Anderson, Like I love directors
Speaker 1: that really really showed stretch, like the Danny Boyle's that like,
Speaker 1: don't do the same movie twice about bands too, though,
Speaker 1: Like there's a certain amount of like same making the
Speaker 1: same record over and over again before I start to
Speaker 1: be like, all right, come on, guys, yeah, I get
Speaker 1: it all right. Mike Mead, based on insider sources, what
Speaker 1: actor actress is the most difficult to work with? And why, Well,
Speaker 1: I don't have a ton of insiders stories. That's not
Speaker 1: quite true. I kind of do. I dated a girl
Speaker 1: that worked as that assistant director around here in Atlanta
Speaker 1: where they shoot a lot of stuff, and I got
Speaker 1: some I got some dirt. Let's hear it. Well, I
Speaker 1: heard a story about um who's the guy from Jaws
Speaker 1: who plays the the scientist Stryfus Stryfus. Yeah, I heard
Speaker 1: a story about how like he he was. They're gonna
Speaker 1: try to take a meeting with him, and in order
Speaker 1: to do it, they had that he insisted that it
Speaker 1: be in this very specific location and they have a
Speaker 1: pint of ice cream waiting for him, and apparently he
Speaker 1: kept canceling ng and they kept having to like get
Speaker 1: new ice creamer I'm making I'm I'm missing a streat details.
Speaker 1: So the ice cream was an important feature, and he
Speaker 1: ended up not getting the job because he was just
Speaker 1: such a nightmare that they just like said, you know,
Speaker 1: never mind, Richard. I had to make sure I had
Speaker 1: a bottle of Chardonnay for Pat Marita on a music video.
Speaker 1: I was working on the bat spoof the Karate Kid.
Speaker 1: But he was lovely. He wasn't like you know, he
Speaker 1: was just like I need that bottle of shard. That's
Speaker 1: fine on ice. Yeah, uh well, John Cusack is notoriously difficult. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Edward Norton as well. Oh really, oh yeah, interest
Speaker 1: Edward Norton is apparently a nightmare, like you know with
Speaker 1: American History X. Apparently he got super involved in like
Speaker 1: cutting it and like he had some kind of like
Speaker 1: right to the final say so, that whole story about
Speaker 1: that movie is interesting and of himself because the director
Speaker 1: got blacklisted, but a lot of it was the director's
Speaker 1: nuts though. I know there's a documentary about this as well,
Speaker 1: but apparently Norton was was a big part of the
Speaker 1: whole interesting chaos of that. That sounds like not a
Speaker 1: good match, not a good match. And I think on
Speaker 1: The Hulk, he just you know, it's like you're making
Speaker 1: the Hulk man, you're gonna go full method and like
Speaker 1: full Hulk. Yeah. I think he went full Hulk. And
Speaker 1: and that's why, you know, he has sort of like
Speaker 1: been disappeared from the Marvel canon. People do not speak
Speaker 1: of Edward Norton anymore in the Marvel universe, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the John Cusack when is disappointing because I've just heard
Speaker 1: he's just a jerk, Like just a jerk, and uh,
Speaker 1: he's an actor that I really have loved over the years.
Speaker 1: And if you just google John Cusack Dick or John
Speaker 1: Cusack Chicago Crazy, they're all these stories of him in
Speaker 1: real life. I r l just doing like and I
Speaker 1: don't know. They're so specific you don't want to believe
Speaker 1: everything you read on the internet. But some of these
Speaker 1: stories are so specific and weird and there's a weird
Speaker 1: sameness to them all that it makes me want to
Speaker 1: believe him, like going over in a baseball game and
Speaker 1: like grabbing a guy's hot dog and eating it in
Speaker 1: front of his face, like stuff like that. There's all
Speaker 1: these weird food related things where he will do that.
Speaker 1: So either there's some big elaborate uh facing of John
Speaker 1: Cusack going on on the internet where everyone is kind
Speaker 1: of doing the same like stories. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: I do know someone who produced a movie that he
Speaker 1: worked on, and I said, hey, the story is true?
Speaker 1: Is he a big asshole? And he went yeah, So
Speaker 1: that's that's insider news right there. I think that's enough, dish. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess you got anymore. Nor we could do this
Speaker 1: all day. Maybe we should have a dish segment, The
Speaker 1: Dish Dive. It's a really good restaurant here in Atlanta,
Speaker 1: bout the Wind. Oh yeah, you've ever been over? There's great.
Speaker 1: It's really really good. That's over near my house. It
Speaker 1: seats like h eight yeah, like eight or ten people.
Speaker 1: My girlfriend's friend works there, and we she got us
Speaker 1: a full table for our party, like for her birthday.
Speaker 1: But we literally were the whole restaurant. Your girlfriend works there,
Speaker 1: My girlfriend's a good friend, was okay, and so we
Speaker 1: we got the whole restaurant first party and it was
Speaker 1: super cool. Man. I haven't been there in a while.
Speaker 1: I need to check it out, all right. Rob Johnson,
Speaker 1: who was more creative control over film the director of
Speaker 1: the producer, well, Rob, it kind of depends generally. The
Speaker 1: film as a director's medium is always known as a
Speaker 1: director's medium. But if you're a early and this is
Speaker 1: something Hollywood's doing lately, especially with these franchise movies, is
Speaker 1: they want someone they can control, so they'll bring in
Speaker 1: a very inexperienced director to direct, like a Spider Man
Speaker 1: movie who maybe has had some low budge hit they
Speaker 1: made that made bank but didn't cost anything. And that
Speaker 1: is legitimately talented. They're like, come on, you want to
Speaker 1: make a star was movie, don't you guys? Yeah, exactly
Speaker 1: because they know that they can kind of uh, they're
Speaker 1: not working with an autour that would be a pain
Speaker 1: in their ass. In fact, I think the days of
Speaker 1: the autour are kind of numbered. Yeah, and in a
Speaker 1: lot of ways, like you know, I mean, you've got
Speaker 1: very few these days like that Villeneuve, he's kind of
Speaker 1: earned his way into being one. But there's not as
Speaker 1: many as uh, you know, there used to be agreed
Speaker 1: um of all dough Braun, great name. Do you like
Speaker 1: it when movies seem to end three or four times?
Speaker 1: Can you think of any movie that does this well?
Speaker 1: Of Alther that's one of my biggest pet peeves. It's
Speaker 1: not not good and the biggest I know, complaint about
Speaker 1: Tarancino a lot. But Django and Chain to Me had
Speaker 1: like three or four endings, and I was just like, really,
Speaker 1: and what that means, people is something that clearly could
Speaker 1: be the end of the film, Yet it keeps going. Yea,
Speaker 1: it implies it's a little masturbatory on the part of
Speaker 1: the director. It's a good way to say. The other
Speaker 1: one that everyone always rags on, like to the point
Speaker 1: where it's become a like a trope. Is the Lord
Speaker 1: of the Rings movie? That the last Lord of the
Speaker 1: Rings movie? I didn't even see that. I think I
Speaker 1: was so done. It ends like nine times. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like it's really become a joke. Alright. And finally we're
Speaker 1: gonna finish up with Jessica mitch Nick ruben Stein. Great name.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, Jmr. What crew or cast member
Speaker 1: do you think is integral to shooting? But it's rarely
Speaker 1: recognized or acknowledged. That is a great question, And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go There are so many members of the crew
Speaker 1: that I can mention here, but I'm gonna go all
Speaker 1: the way to script supervisor a the one of the
Speaker 1: most unheralded jobs on the set, yet one of the
Speaker 1: most key jobs. Keep things on track, right, I mean
Speaker 1: they keep things on track, They keep track of continuity.
Speaker 1: If the I mean they are they're the director's right
Speaker 1: hand person. Like if they go to shoot a scene
Speaker 1: that they picked up from another thing from the day before,
Speaker 1: they say, you know, is the coffee cup in the
Speaker 1: right hand is the drawing on the chalkboard where it
Speaker 1: was is the collar the same and a good script
Speaker 1: he is? Uh is key key key. So if you
Speaker 1: see some continuity goof, you probably have the script supervisor
Speaker 1: to thank for that. Yeah, although there are a lot
Speaker 1: of people that should be watching out, like if you
Speaker 1: see a boom might drop in, Like there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people that it's whose fault that is, But I
Speaker 1: mean like earring, switching ears or like some real obvious
Speaker 1: things one got by piece kind of situation. Again, you know,
Speaker 1: wardrobe supposed to be watching for that art department, like
Speaker 1: everyone's supposed to. But scripty ultimately should should pick up
Speaker 1: that stuff. Is that a high level ish job or
Speaker 1: is that sort of not really? I mean, you know
Speaker 1: it's it's just standard crew member, you know that. I
Speaker 1: mean everyone makes a pretty good wage on a film set,
Speaker 1: of course, but it is certainly not revere position. They
Speaker 1: are generally very quiet, very attentive. Do they have assistance?
Speaker 1: Do they usually have an assistance? I've never seen one,
Speaker 1: but I've never been on like big, big movies. I
Speaker 1: could see that on a big movie. Uh So yeah,
Speaker 1: script supervisor, Great question, Jessica. And that is it for
Speaker 1: this week. So your homework for this week, everyone is
Speaker 1: Raising Arizona. That is one of the only one of
Speaker 1: those movies I haven't seen. Well, no, you have some homework.
Speaker 1: Got some homework, my friends. One of my favorite movies.
Speaker 1: I've seen it literally twenty times at least. Uh. And
Speaker 1: I talked to you Dack Shepard about this. Dex is
Speaker 1: a big shot actor and director and writer and uh
Speaker 1: he he is a podcaster now. He has a great
Speaker 1: new show called Armchair Expert. And Dax has been a
Speaker 1: stuff you should know listener for quite a while. And
Speaker 1: I was one of the l A sessions where I
Speaker 1: tweeted at him and said, hey, man, I think it's
Speaker 1: due time that we meet, and he said, sure, let's
Speaker 1: do this. So he came into l A studio. Could
Speaker 1: have been a nicer Guy's a man. That was great.
Speaker 1: So we talked about Raising Arizona and a car racing
Speaker 1: and movie directing and acting, and he had a lot
Speaker 1: of good insight. Very cool. So check out Raising Arizona
Speaker 1: this week and we will see you next week in
Speaker 1: the studio. Bye.