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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm Strong

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<v Speaker 1>and Jetty and now he Armstrong and Yetty.

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<v Speaker 2>Were just under forty eight hours until the first votes

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<v Speaker 2>are cast. The most powerful men of the Catholic Church

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<v Speaker 2>are focusing their minds and mostly keeping their silence.

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<v Speaker 1>Eminence. Hello, what I said? How is today's meeting? Eminence?

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<v Speaker 1>How is today's meeting?

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<v Speaker 2>It's the daily dance of the cardinals and the journalists.

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<v Speaker 1>But the countdown is on.

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<v Speaker 3>How many of these journalists give a crap who the

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<v Speaker 3>next pope is?

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know, they're told to go cover it. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess is this touch with this?

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I care more about the Catholic Church

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<v Speaker 3>than the average person I know, and I'm not hanging

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<v Speaker 3>on every moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not contemptuous of it, but like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care who wins the NBA Final, but people enjoy it,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I do care who's the NBA Final. I'm rooting for

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<v Speaker 3>the next I think, assuming the Warriors. I'm a Warrior

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<v Speaker 3>band wagon wagon jumper, fake fan, That's what I say.

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<v Speaker 3>In the brunts and jersey today, you're the pope a

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<v Speaker 3>bandwagon jumpin' Well, I was I gonna say, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>got a bit of a combination of the met Gala

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<v Speaker 3>and royal family in terms of covering it, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just that sort of thing. Yeah, yeah, certainly the

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<v Speaker 1>direction doctrine wise of the Catholic Church going forward has

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<v Speaker 1>significance to mankind. I just definitely I don't have the

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<v Speaker 1>bandwidth to understand who these people are and root for

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<v Speaker 1>one thing or another. Just let me know who you

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<v Speaker 1>choose to be pope and I'll go from there. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought this was funny, though funny interesting. ABC News last

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<v Speaker 1>night was breathless and taking it one hundred percent seriously

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<v Speaker 1>and looking desperately for clues in the next Climichael.

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<v Speaker 2>But the Archbishop of Jakarta, Indonesia did stop to offer

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<v Speaker 2>a clue. He's one of the one hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 2>three cardinals who will choose the next pope.

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<v Speaker 1>What kind of leader would you like? You can't hear

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of it. He's murmuring, but he's saying, Francis's

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<v Speaker 1>name has come up many times. What does that mean? Simplicity?

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<v Speaker 1>Simplicity of doctrine of lifestyle and then he wandered off

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<v Speaker 1>and ABC News they teased like four times a clue

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<v Speaker 1>from one of the archbishops. I just thought the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing was a little overcooked. And I believe they overegged

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<v Speaker 1>the pudding.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you found out today who the Pope was

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<v Speaker 3>going to be two days before they announced it, what

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<v Speaker 3>would you do with that information?

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<v Speaker 1>And markets I'd attempt to profit coming up some hilarious

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<v Speaker 1>and bizarre historical notes from the conclaves back in history.

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<v Speaker 1>But first, what about the pope meme put out by

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<v Speaker 1>the White House? S Dounnell J. Trump in Pope garb

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<v Speaker 1>Ai generated? What of that? Ninety three? Michael, Yes, ma'am,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you Cathic. We're not so happy about the image

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<v Speaker 1>of you looking like the Pope. Oh I see.

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<v Speaker 3>You mean they can't take a joke. You don't mean

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<v Speaker 3>the Catholics, you mean the fake news media, not.

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<v Speaker 1>The Catholics loved it. I had nothing to do with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody made up a picture of me dressed like the

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<v Speaker 3>Pope and they put it out on the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not me that did it. I have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>where it came from. Maybe it was Ai maybe yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just silly. Okay, we're outraged or pretending to be anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>because yeah, there are various Catholic officials and said I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't think that was appropriate, and some have said that

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<v Speaker 1>was really funny. So we're fine. The world is fine.

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<v Speaker 1>We have like one thousand and seventy seven bigger problems

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<v Speaker 1>than that. Why don't we concentrate on those? I thought

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<v Speaker 1>this was amazing looking back to you yesteryear, and when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking really yesteryear. The year twelve sixty eight, jack, Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>The conclave in the town of Faturbo near Rome was

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<v Speaker 1>the longest in history. The cardinals were bitterly divided over

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<v Speaker 1>the next pope. The Italian prelates wanted an Italian pope,

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<v Speaker 1>the French wanted a Frenchman, and neither side budged for

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<v Speaker 1>nearly three years. Wow. So to break the deadlock, the

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<v Speaker 1>local population I guess they were sick of all the

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<v Speaker 1>cardinals in town or something, sucking up the good hotel

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<v Speaker 1>rooms and crowding the restaurants, like having the Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>in your town for three straight years. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>They locked the cardinals in the hall of the papal palace,

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<v Speaker 1>reduced their diet to bread and water, and bricked up

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<v Speaker 1>all the windows. That's the way they even Oh, they

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<v Speaker 1>even removed the roof, which they said was to allow

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<v Speaker 1>the Holy Spirit direct access, but in truth was to

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<v Speaker 1>expose all the cardinals to the elements, so they'd be

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<v Speaker 1>so miserable they'd come to a damned decision. That conclave

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<v Speaker 1>was the longest in history, and it actually gave papal

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<v Speaker 1>elections their modern name comclave Latin for with key. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>back meeting, you're not coming out of there until we

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<v Speaker 1>let you.

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<v Speaker 3>Back in the day, though, who the pope was and

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<v Speaker 3>from what country, and that carried so much important economical, political, political,

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<v Speaker 3>and military power.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was, you know, it's a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not the case now. So the eventual winner, Pope

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<v Speaker 1>Gregory the tenth, sought to avoid a repeat by imposing

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<v Speaker 1>some ground rules that still governed conclaves today from the

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<v Speaker 1>year twelve sixty well seventy one, I guess, including strict seclusion,

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<v Speaker 1>daily voting, and some degree of discomfort and roof. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not going to be one of those junkets like

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<v Speaker 1>your local political hacks go on to Hawaii where they

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<v Speaker 1>go to like one meeting a day for an hour

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<v Speaker 1>and spend the rest of the time on the beach. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the kind of the opposite. A couple more tales

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<v Speaker 1>from history from the book behind Locked Door is a

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<v Speaker 1>history of papal elections. Let's see, that's only mildly interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>In early Christianity, this election of the Bishop of Rome

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<v Speaker 1>was a fluid process, often involving local clergy, powerful notables,

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<v Speaker 1>and popular acclaim. Cardinals didn't even exist until the eleventh century.

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<v Speaker 1>Initially there were only twelve of them. I tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what one thing to know, because there is power in

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<v Speaker 1>the papacy, whether it's you know, it's kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>modern version, which is still pretty significant, or the more

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<v Speaker 1>ancient version, which was ginormous power political, financial, economic, et CETERA.

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<v Speaker 1>First conclave in the Sistine Chapel took place in fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety two, the year Christopher Columbus launched the debut election

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<v Speaker 1>in the chapel, marred by scandal. Jack Pope Alexander, the

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<v Speaker 1>sixth member of the wealthy Borgia family, known for his

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<v Speaker 1>lavish lifestyle and many children Wait a minute, many children, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>secured his election by bribing fellow cardinals with land money,

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<v Speaker 1>and lucrative positions in the Vatican's bureaucracy. There you go, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so uh anyway, uh so oh one more note. After

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<v Speaker 1>the Assistine Chapel became the fixed setting for conclaves, cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>shared sleeping quarters in what used to be Alexander the

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<v Speaker 1>Fourth's Fresco department in the Vatican. It was not comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>It's mean he has six cardinals shared a room with

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<v Speaker 1>makeshift partitions for privacy, bathrooms were few, and cardinals were

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<v Speaker 1>given commode chairs essentially wooden potties to keep next to

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<v Speaker 1>their beds. It's a seat with a hole. When cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>were voting in the Sistine Chapel, staff were coming to

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<v Speaker 1>clean and prepare the rooms for the day after clean

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<v Speaker 1>and dumping their their their bed pots or what any

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<v Speaker 1>of chamber pots. Holy it was a very hot year.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just say they didn't enjoy staying in these rooms,

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<v Speaker 1>said the historian. You you is right, Jack. At least

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<v Speaker 1>they're not locking them in a church and breaking up

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<v Speaker 1>all the windows, taking the road. You're staying in there

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<v Speaker 1>for you anyway, There you have the conclave, which is

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<v Speaker 1>apparently going on now or something. Wake me when it's over.

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<v Speaker 3>A combination of the Met Gala and the royal family

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<v Speaker 3>and the Kardashians.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I did actually scroll through the inevitable New

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<v Speaker 1>York Times incredibly long photo gallery of the Met Gala.

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<v Speaker 1>I am horribly embarrassed and connected and celebrities go do

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<v Speaker 1>what they do whatever. It was horribly embarrassed to say

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<v Speaker 1>that I did the same. I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>And while I was doing it, I thought, why are

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<v Speaker 3>you thumbing through pictures of people you don't even know

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<v Speaker 3>who they are to see what they wore, which you

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<v Speaker 3>don't care about, to an event you despise. Why are

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<v Speaker 3>you doing this? But I did it anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Earlier in the show, I compared it to the capitol

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<v Speaker 1>in the Hunger Games movies, and Jack has not seen those.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one, absolutely appropriate for your teenage boys. It's shockingly

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<v Speaker 1>brutal for a PG thirteen movie. It's not horribly graphic,

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<v Speaker 1>but the themes are very, very mature. It's about a republic,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will and stop me if this sounds familiar, friends,

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<v Speaker 1>a republic where the capital has become so rich and

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<v Speaker 1>so isolated from the lives of normal people. It's become

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<v Speaker 1>utterly divorced from them. Abusive of them exploits their riches,

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<v Speaker 1>and the people, the denizens of that capital, dress an

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly elaborate showy self regarding fashion and congratulate each other

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<v Speaker 1>for being a superior race of human beings. Again, if

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds oddly familiar, I'll give you a second and

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<v Speaker 1>make the connection in your own brain.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, that's what's interesting about something like the met galawhich,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, happens in New York City. So New York City,

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<v Speaker 3>which is as lefty and progressive as you can get

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<v Speaker 3>as a city in America. And you know, AOC got

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<v Speaker 3>so much attention for eat the rich on her dress

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<v Speaker 3>at the metal. They aren't doing this in Omaha. They

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<v Speaker 3>aren't dressing up like this and owing and aweing over

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<v Speaker 3>who's there and in their clothes. They're doing it in

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<v Speaker 3>the progressive town. Doesn't that strike you as odd that

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<v Speaker 3>you're fawning over, you know, conspicuous consumption and wealth and

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<v Speaker 3>fame in your progressive areas where they don't do it

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<v Speaker 3>in the conservative Doesn't that seem backwards to you somehow?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it all to you, But they're utterly without, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>self perception. Progressivism wants to gather as much power as

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<v Speaker 1>it conceivably can, and then direct everything. Who gets into schools,

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<v Speaker 1>how the economy works, who can say what, who gets

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<v Speaker 1>to keep their job, who teaches at my university. We

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<v Speaker 1>want to control everything absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>I started reading Joonah Goldberg's book from years ago, Liberal Fascism,

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<v Speaker 3>last night, and that's exactly what he talks about. Fascism

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<v Speaker 3>is way more of a left thing than it is

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<v Speaker 3>a right thing. How it got tagged is a right thing?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Yeah, you know, there's a great quote.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's I think it's Ein rand Er, somebody

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<v Speaker 1>quoting her, thinking that the difference between communism and fascism

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<v Speaker 1>is absolutely negligible. They both believe in subjugating the individual

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<v Speaker 1>rights of human beings to serve the state, which is

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<v Speaker 1>always the party in charge those with power there. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they have like interesting doctrinal differences, but to the average

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<v Speaker 1>human being being trampled, those doctrinal differences don't amount to

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<v Speaker 1>a hill of beans. It's all about exploiting the working

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<v Speaker 1>people and trampling on individual rights.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, one of the main points early is that the

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<v Speaker 3>term fascism is almost useless. So here we are throwing

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<v Speaker 3>it around much to come stay here.

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<v Speaker 4>And finally, a Brazilian nun died last week, just several

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<v Speaker 4>weeks shy of our one hundred and seventeenth birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lesson for everyone there. Always pack your own shoot.

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<v Speaker 3>Funny, it would be a dying joke there, Michael, because

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<v Speaker 3>that's what I was going to talk about, is I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think I'm going to reach my next birthday with

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<v Speaker 3>this disease I've got. I'm a sickly man and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not long for this world. Actually got some texts from

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<v Speaker 3>people who have got this or they've got family members

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<v Speaker 3>who gotten it, and I hope this is some news

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<v Speaker 3>you can use rather than me just complaining about being.

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<v Speaker 1>Sick for so long.

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<v Speaker 3>There's some sort of cold something going around that lasts

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<v Speaker 3>way longer than these things usually.

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<v Speaker 1>At last, we like, we got this text. This is

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<v Speaker 1>for Jack.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a healthy woman, rarely sick, but I've had the

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<v Speaker 3>same thing that you have. It's taken me seven weeks

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<v Speaker 3>for my cough to leave. The doctor said the cough

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<v Speaker 3>with last six to eight weeks. He was right, wow,

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<v Speaker 3>And the doctors told me, and the doctors are struggling

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<v Speaker 3>with it because everybody's naturally, you know, calling them up

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<v Speaker 3>after a month or a month and a half and saying,

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<v Speaker 3>what's the.

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<v Speaker 1>Deal, Why do I still feel so crappy?

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<v Speaker 3>And Doctor's having to say it's just something that's going

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<v Speaker 3>around that takes like two months to kick.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know what to do with that information.

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<v Speaker 1>The Uri Djore upper respiratory infection. Is doctor Fauci behind it?

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<v Speaker 1>Has he been working in some secret lab in the

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<v Speaker 1>congo or something gain a function.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't read a word about this, and I'm surprised

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't. It's that it's not some mutant strain of

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<v Speaker 3>something that combined with something, or our immune systems got

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<v Speaker 3>affected or something. Doesn't seem odd that all of a

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<v Speaker 3>sudden we've got some two month cold that is hanging around.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't feel like anything else I've ever had in

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<v Speaker 3>my life. Yeah, we got on the topic of last

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<v Speaker 3>words earlier, as I think I might. I was worried

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<v Speaker 3>that I'm going to die during the show and my

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<v Speaker 3>last words are going to be coming up next details

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<v Speaker 3>from the Diddy trial, and then I'll die and those

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<v Speaker 3>will be my last words.

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<v Speaker 1>Right That would be humiliating.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a lot of people's last words are similar to

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<v Speaker 3>that in that they weren't expecting. You know, some people

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<v Speaker 3>have last words laying in bed, knowing they're likely to

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<v Speaker 3>be their last words, and they're often very profound or

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<v Speaker 3>touching or interesting or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And actually or whether those were actually the last ones,

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<v Speaker 1>or if you just agreed with your good bodies, can

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<v Speaker 1>you say these are my last words? I'll bet that

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<v Speaker 1>happens a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which is fine because a lot of the last words,

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<v Speaker 3>at least on this list that I'm looking to, or

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<v Speaker 3>just the last thing you said, Like Benjamin Franklin said

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<v Speaker 3>something about I can't get it comfortable in no matter

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<v Speaker 3>what I try to do, you know, something like that

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<v Speaker 3>his daughter roll over on his side, and I can't

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<v Speaker 3>get comfortable no matter how I lay. Well, that's not

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<v Speaker 3>a good last word from one of the great wordsmiths

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<v Speaker 3>of all time. Agreed, Yeah, Or you get to choose

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<v Speaker 3>not literally your last word. That's a silly you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think about it at my advanced stage.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just a silly way to silly thing to even

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<v Speaker 1>call it. How about you last message? Yeah, that makes

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<v Speaker 1>more sense. Yeah, I mean common. You could be Abraham

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<v Speaker 1>Damn Lincoln and your last words might be I need

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<v Speaker 1>to pee. I mean, Ryan, what that's going to echo

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<v Speaker 1>through the ages? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, did I already mention the one one of your

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<v Speaker 3>great thinkers who said dying is boring? I think that

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<v Speaker 3>was George Orwell dying is boring, which I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure it is.

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<v Speaker 3>I like this one from some murderer that got the

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<v Speaker 3>firing squad. Here's probably a horrible person. They said, do

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<v Speaker 3>you have any last words? He said, bring me a

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<v Speaker 3>bulletproof vest. I'm here all night. Well for the next

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<v Speaker 3>five minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>I salute you in hell wherever you are, sir. That's funny. Yeah. So,

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<v Speaker 1>coming up a couple of governmental issues that I am

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<v Speaker 1>going to work diligently to make not dry, not overly dry.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one, the air traffic control system in our country

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<v Speaker 1>is an embarrassment. Needs to be fixed, and to its credit,

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump administration is going to try like hell to

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<v Speaker 1>fix it. Also, if you think you understand what medicaid is, weld, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that is the medical aid program for the poor. You

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea. It is a gigantic scam, which we

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<v Speaker 1>will explain I'm thinking during our three of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>And part of the reason it's important to know that

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<v Speaker 1>is that as the Trump administration and Republicans in Congress

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<v Speaker 1>are trying to fix it, they will be accused over

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<v Speaker 1>and over again of trying to balance the budget on

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<v Speaker 1>the back of the poor and take away people's medicaid benefits,

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<v Speaker 1>when that is the polar opposite of what they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do. That's frustrating. Oh yeah, yeah. Democracy is a

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<v Speaker 1>terrible system. It can't work.

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<v Speaker 3>What's going on with Ukraine and Russia. There's the latest

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<v Speaker 3>turn on that. Man I Trump is sending him some

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<v Speaker 3>of the most advanced air defense systems from Israel to Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 3>Now that's interesting, It is interesting. Don't I have no

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<v Speaker 3>idea what's going on behind the scenes on that. Neither's

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<v Speaker 3>anybody else. Anyway, We've got a lot on the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay here, Armstrong and Getty growing.

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<v Speaker 5>Alarm at Noork's Liberty Airport tonight, ABC News learning air

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<v Speaker 5>traffic controllers lost radar and communications with planes packed with

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<v Speaker 5>passengers for sixty to ninety seconds last week. A system

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<v Speaker 5>wide outage last Monday at a Philadelphia facility that manages

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<v Speaker 5>the airspace around Newark Airport caused controllers to lose the

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<v Speaker 5>ability to see, hear, or talk to all arriving and

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<v Speaker 5>departing aircraft at one of the busiest airports in the country.

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<v Speaker 1>Ninety seconds is a long time. Yeah, really shocking. A

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<v Speaker 1>one more note on how it unfolded next clip. Then

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<v Speaker 1>we'll discuss pilots can be heard learning of the outage

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<v Speaker 1>over the radio. I discusshold it approach loss. All the radars.

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<v Speaker 1>Three of the core radar screens wet black, and they have.

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<v Speaker 5>No frequency controllers from another tower advising pilots that radio frequencies.

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<v Speaker 1>Have failed, and they want you to be advising. They

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<v Speaker 1>may not be able to raid our contact to you

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<v Speaker 1>because of the radar issues, and they may lose you

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<v Speaker 1>on for certain times of when you're applying. I have

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<v Speaker 1>a handful of friends and neighbors who are frequent flyers,

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<v Speaker 1>business people, and we have agreed number one, air travel

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<v Speaker 1>is degenerated significantly in its pleasantness over the last you

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<v Speaker 1>know number of years.

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<v Speaker 3>Luckily that I won't have to deal with it anymore

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<v Speaker 3>because I didn't get the real ID, so it'll no

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<v Speaker 3>longer be.

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<v Speaker 1>A problem for me. Hey, it's the curse, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>blessing exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>Ah.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've also agreed that even when it goes well,

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<v Speaker 1>it goes poorly right the air travel these days. So

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<v Speaker 1>I thought this was really interesting. I mean, putting aside

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<v Speaker 1>that incident, which is terrible, We'll not putting it aside.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just put it over there and we'll talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>The Wall Street Journal editorial board with a great piece

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<v Speaker 1>about the America's air traffic fiasco, and they focus on

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<v Speaker 1>Newark Airport. And if you've never had the pleasure quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote of flying into Newark, I suggest you never do.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're going to New York and Jfkin Laguardi are

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<v Speaker 1>booked up, why don't you fly to Bridgeport, Connecticut and

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<v Speaker 1>walk into New York City before you go to Newark.

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<v Speaker 1>So thousands of flights in and out of Newark in

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<v Speaker 1>recent days have been delayed, diverted, or canceled because of

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<v Speaker 1>air traffic control failures. And President Trump and his transportations

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<v Speaker 1>are actually taking steps to fix this, which we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about in a minute. But the headaches at Newark began

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<v Speaker 1>last Monday when the Philadelphia Air Traffic Control facility what

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<v Speaker 1>they were just saying, had equipment malfunctions. So the FAA

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<v Speaker 1>finally resolved the technical snaffoos, but flight disruptions persisted because

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<v Speaker 1>of a shortage of controllers. How is there a short controllers?

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<v Speaker 1>How do we not have I mean, given the priority

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<v Speaker 1>that that is, how do we not pay them en

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<v Speaker 1>off and treat them well enough to have enough of them?

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<v Speaker 1>Bureaucracy is the answer, honestly. But United Airlines on Friday

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<v Speaker 1>canceled thirty five daily round trip flights at the airport.

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<v Speaker 1>For instance, the CEO said he decided to walk out

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<v Speaker 1>by more than twenty percent of the controllers at the site.

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<v Speaker 1>Flight delays at Newark averaged four hours on some day.

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<v Speaker 1>My god, that was the average, and it continued Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>and such delays could be the new normal this summer.

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<v Speaker 1>But then they credit Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy for at

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<v Speaker 1>least acknowledging government is to blame, unlike his Biden predecessor

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<v Speaker 1>Pete Buddhage Edge and Edge who blamed airlines well doing

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<v Speaker 1>little to nothing to fix long standing problems. Then they

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<v Speaker 1>describe what the long standing problems are. And folks in

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<v Speaker 1>private enterprise, particularly anybody who leans on tech deals with tech,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna if you don't already know about this, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna just be astounded. Congress in twenty oh three. Those

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<v Speaker 1>not gifted in the arts of mathematics, it's twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>years ago directed the FAA to modernize its systems, so

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<v Speaker 1>they started the next gen overhaul, which is set to

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<v Speaker 1>be completed in the year twenty thirty. Wow, all you

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<v Speaker 1>tech guys and gals are saying the same thing. Whoa whoa, whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>whoa whoa whoa. No, No, that's not a thing. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't start something in twenty oh three and stick with

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<v Speaker 1>it through twenty thirty. You've overhauled the system sixty nine

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<v Speaker 1>times in that period, not stuck with the same quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote overhaul that was started in oh three. Well, we're right.

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<v Speaker 3>You're talking about a tech overhaul that started before smartphones existed.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's how much technology has changed since night.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you and your your wife looking at your

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<v Speaker 1>three month old child and saying, we need bigger clothes

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<v Speaker 1>because the kid is growing fast. Let's study the problem

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<v Speaker 1>and will implement a bigger closed plan when he's twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, your kid's gonna be naked for a long time. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, except clothes don't change that much. The whole tech thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Tech has changed so much in that amount of time.

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<v Speaker 3>What about tsking they laid out in the beginning is

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<v Speaker 3>pointless now.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it's utterly irrelevant. So as mister Duffy the

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<v Speaker 1>sectrans notes, the FAA literally still uses floppy discs. Does

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<v Speaker 1>gen Z even know what those are? Few technicians can

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<v Speaker 1>even repair its aging systems, some of which are more

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<v Speaker 1>than sixty years old. It's like trying to find some

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<v Speaker 1>handyman to fix your Victrola that you inherited from your

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<v Speaker 1>great grandma.

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<v Speaker 3>That's got to be pretty funny for a tech guy

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<v Speaker 3>to come in and he's never seen a floppy disk,

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<v Speaker 3>or maybe even never heard of one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm old, so I've seen them.

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<v Speaker 3>But we did get a number of texts when we

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned this earlier that is that on purpose because they're unhackable.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't can't hack into floppy discs like you can

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<v Speaker 3>every Internet based modern thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well if so, if so, say so. But surely a

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<v Speaker 1>thumb drive is a better idea. A not connected to

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet and a floppy disc they're both discrete carriers

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<v Speaker 1>of data.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're giving too much credit if you think

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<v Speaker 3>it was some on purpose thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, please just get lead follow er, get out of

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<v Speaker 1>the way. The Government Accountability Office reported in March that

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<v Speaker 1>seventy six percent of FAA systems are unsustainable or potentially unsustainable,

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<v Speaker 1>which may have quote critical operational impacts on safety and efficiency.

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg News reports that controllers guiding planes at Newark lost

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<v Speaker 1>radio and communications and radar for more than a minute

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday, like we were talking about, Luckily there were

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<v Speaker 1>no accidents. Boys.

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<v Speaker 3>That has to be just that everybody in the air

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<v Speaker 3>during those ninety seconds just went ahead and kept doing

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<v Speaker 3>what they are doing. If one person thought, oh boy,

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<v Speaker 3>no connection, I better pull up and land after we

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<v Speaker 3>get this straightened out, well, then you could have just

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<v Speaker 3>had a cascading series of disasters.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I don't I have not actually heard anybody describe

0:24:11.160 --> 0:24:15.040
<v Speaker 1>what pilots did if they were, you know, two minutes

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<v Speaker 1>out from landing, if they were in their final approach,

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<v Speaker 1>what did they do? I don't know. But ninety seconds

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<v Speaker 1>is a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you could be from way the hell up

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<v Speaker 3>there to on the ground in I guess, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, absolutely, you're going. You know, it's certainly you're

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<v Speaker 1>sloan for landing in this scenario, but you're going a

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<v Speaker 1>couple hundred miles per hour. Certainly anyway DA or oh

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<v Speaker 1>get this. The GAO Government Accountability Office is quote completion

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<v Speaker 1>dates for planned investments for systems. It deems quote especially

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<v Speaker 1>concerning we're at least six to ten years away. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you imagine again it consultants. You get hired by some

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, chain of restaurants or something whatever, some

0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:06.440
<v Speaker 1>significant sized local business and they say, hey, we really

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<v Speaker 1>need to upgrade our systems, and you tell them, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to need six to ten years. You'd be

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<v Speaker 1>hooted out of the place. Now, Technological obsolescence is common

0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:18.520
<v Speaker 1>among the federal across the federal bureaucracy because there's no

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<v Speaker 1>financial motive to become more efficient singing from Tim Sanderfer's

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<v Speaker 1>hymn book here. FAA labor agreements also require the government

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<v Speaker 1>to work collaboratively with the Air Traffic Controller union on modernization,

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<v Speaker 1>which can delay upgrades or divert staff from their day jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>It's much like the ports, where the powerful long shoreman's

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<v Speaker 1>union prevent any technological upgrades on. But you know in

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<v Speaker 1>that world we're talking about, yeah, the technological stuff involving

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<v Speaker 1>the cranes and all that matters. The you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>automation matters, but a lot of it's just as silly

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<v Speaker 1>as having a human read license plates instead of US scanner.

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<v Speaker 1>Just to keep the jobs. But this is the faa

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<v Speaker 1>This prevents people from dying in horrible fiery wrecks. The

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<v Speaker 1>FAAC says it needs three thousand controllers to be fully staffed,

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<v Speaker 1>and shortages are especially acute in the New York City region.

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<v Speaker 1>Blah blah blah. Well, he's one thing.

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<v Speaker 3>We keep talking about danger, which I understand, especially if

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<v Speaker 3>there was a you know, a blackout there for ninety seconds.

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<v Speaker 3>But flying is insanely safe. It's the safest thing I'll

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<v Speaker 3>do every time I do it. The hassle part of it, though,

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<v Speaker 3>as you mentioned earlier, has gotten exponentially worse. I think

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<v Speaker 3>we all go to the airport with the expectation of

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<v Speaker 3>a delay now as opposed to that is a you know,

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<v Speaker 3>an aberration, that's what you expect. It's somewhat shocking when

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<v Speaker 3>you walk up to departure and see that you're actually

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<v Speaker 3>leaving when you were supposed to leave.

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<v Speaker 1>One more note, and they go through some of the

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<v Speaker 1>labor disagreements with the union, government employee unions are a

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<v Speaker 1>force for evil. I understand why they exist, even FDR

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<v Speaker 1>thought they should not. As a topic for another day,

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<v Speaker 1>but I wanted to get to this part. Americans who

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<v Speaker 1>want to become controllers must undergo three to five months

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<v Speaker 1>of paid training at the FAA Academy in Oklahoma City,

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<v Speaker 1>followed by a three year apprenticeship at a control facility.

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<v Speaker 1>The Obama administration eased standards to boost minority enrollment at

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<v Speaker 1>the FAA Academy Affirmative Action FAA DEI. FAA lower standards

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<v Speaker 1>have resulted in higher attrition. Half of the students who

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<v Speaker 1>enter the academy don't finish their training. It's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>like promoting kids who can't hack the elite universities to

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<v Speaker 1>the elite universities to improve their numbers, when those kids

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<v Speaker 1>would be so much more likely to be happy and

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<v Speaker 1>successful at not quite so brutal a facility. The airline

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<v Speaker 1>says the FAA could be could better screen applicants and

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<v Speaker 1>reduce certification times by thirty percent with more effective training,

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<v Speaker 1>including high fidelity simulators. In short, to behave much.

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<v Speaker 3>More like a private enterprise, but three years of training

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<v Speaker 3>and in the three year whatever like an internship.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like becoming a doctor.

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<v Speaker 3>To be a air traffic controller.

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<v Speaker 1>It's three to five months of paid training and then

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<v Speaker 1>a three year apprenticeship. You're an assistant controller. It's you know, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you are going to hear guaranteed, you're gonna hear

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<v Speaker 1>the Secretary of Transportation whose name keeps flitting out of

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<v Speaker 1>my head. These a hero to millions. Everybody knows, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Duffy. That's it. You're going to hear him and

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<v Speaker 1>Trump talk about how we need to do this, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna see Chuck Schumer on the steps of the

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<v Speaker 1>Capitol talking about they're trying to undercut a hardworking controllers

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<v Speaker 1>with these radical changes that will endanger airline passion because

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<v Speaker 1>he's just a slave to the unions.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, that is disturbed. So you pushed a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>people onto that career path who probably thought it pays

0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:08.200
<v Speaker 3>how much and whatever, Sure I'll sign up, but you

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<v Speaker 3>just can't cut it for whatever reason. To try to

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:16.080
<v Speaker 3>end up with all that's a disparate impact thing that's

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<v Speaker 3>not good, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Just coming up maybe next hour, trying to squeeze it

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<v Speaker 1>in the next hour. It strikes me that these two

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<v Speaker 1>things are very much connected. Matthew Countinetti, who's with the

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<v Speaker 1>Free Press now, actually listened to all of Trump's address

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<v Speaker 1>to the University of Alabama. They're a commencement speech thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And Trump went through his ten guiding principles, and one

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<v Speaker 1>of them had to do with the need to change

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<v Speaker 1>things when they need to be changed, and not be

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<v Speaker 1>so enamored with the status quo that you lose your

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<v Speaker 1>ability to see what needs to change. I'm paraphrasing a

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<v Speaker 1>lot here, but this is a perfect example of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Obama Biden. They were not going to say this is

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<v Speaker 1>broker fixing it. They would say, ah, let's tweak around

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:09.800
<v Speaker 1>the edges. We don't want to offend this constituency. We

0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 1>got this union mad at us. That would cost a

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of money. They're not innovators. And Trump, for all

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 1>of you know his quirks that make me insane, Trump

0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 1>is a guy who will say, Nope, we're getting rid

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:27.720
<v Speaker 1>of this because it doesn't work, and thank goodness, because

0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:28.840
<v Speaker 1>it really needs to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Cool Michelle Obama says she's in therapy and reveals why.

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<v Speaker 3>As divorce rumors swirl continue to swirl, among other incredibly

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:51.760
<v Speaker 3>unimportant stories we can get to stay with us.

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<v Speaker 4>Ture is filling out this written questionnaire saying there may

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<v Speaker 4>be graphic and sexually explicit evidence in connection with the case,

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<v Speaker 4>and asking if they're anything that would make it difficult

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<v Speaker 4>for you to be fair and impartial many perspective. Touris

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<v Speaker 4>also saying they recognized the names of other celebrities that might.

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<v Speaker 1>Come up at trial. The judge tried to.

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<v Speaker 4>Keep things moving, so when the defense asked for a

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<v Speaker 4>bathroom break, Colms apologize, saying, sorry, Judge, I'm a little

0:31:16.040 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 4>nervous today. His lawyers are aiming to convince the jury

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<v Speaker 4>the government is trying to police consensual sex by a

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<v Speaker 4>swinger who they say invited others into his bedroom.

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<v Speaker 3>Consensual sex. I'm just a swinger. I invited people to

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<v Speaker 3>my bedroom. Is that what invitations are out of bounds?

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<v Speaker 1>Now? Why is the government trying to criminalize my freewheeling lifestyle? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Just because your vanilla doesn't mean that I have to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure I'd beaten, kick women and drug people and threaten

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<v Speaker 1>them and transport them across the state lines, which doesn't

0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:48.400
<v Speaker 1>trouble me. I've been transported across state lines and I

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:51.560
<v Speaker 1>came out fine. But that video, that video is what's

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<v Speaker 1>going to do him.

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<v Speaker 3>In the video of him dragging that, I mean once

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<v Speaker 3>you either are a guy who can do that or

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<v Speaker 3>you're not all right. And you know that's that speaks volumes,

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<v Speaker 3>And most of the jurors asked yesterday said they had

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<v Speaker 3>seen that video.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, if you are being accused of brutality and

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:12.520
<v Speaker 1>can watch brutality, yeah, that's gonna help convict you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of hurts the hole.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not the kind of guy that would ever do

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<v Speaker 3>that if they've got a video of you doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, as I've said many times, wait till the

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<v Speaker 1>defense takes its shot, because that can really change perceptions.

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<v Speaker 3>Update on that Pittsburgh Pirate fan who did a summersault onto.

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<v Speaker 1>The field last week.

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<v Speaker 3>Took us a couple of days to get the information

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<v Speaker 3>that he was had taken off his shirt and poured

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<v Speaker 3>beer on his head.

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<v Speaker 1>While the Pirates were rallying, Yes, very excited before he rolled.

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<v Speaker 3>Out of his seat onto the field, so it seemed

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<v Speaker 3>that exuberant partying may have played a role.

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<v Speaker 1>Authorities believe alcohol was involved as the operative phraser.

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty year old Caven Markwood took his first depths yesterday. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he broke his neck, his back and his collar bone.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, had to be some brain injury there too, huh.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>They haven't said anything about that. They're doing a GoFundMe

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<v Speaker 3>to try to help pay his medical bills. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's nice, you know. I mean, man, there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of charities out there. There are a lot of

0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:30.400
<v Speaker 3>charities out there that need money. And guy who strips

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<v Speaker 3>off his shirt, pours pier on his head and tumbles

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<v Speaker 3>onto the field.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Choose your charity dollars, how you want to spend him.

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<v Speaker 1>But we've got to discuss think about whether we want

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<v Speaker 1>to do this. There's a story out there this gal

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<v Speaker 1>was dropping in bombs in a park and it went viral.

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<v Speaker 1>She's defiant in the video, and she was docked and

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<v Speaker 1>exposed and berated blah blah blah by progressive types. In return,

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<v Speaker 1>the far right has come to her aid and she's

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<v Speaker 1>getting close to a million dollars on her not GoFundMe,

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:20.000
<v Speaker 1>but a similar page. We become so tribal. If they

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:26.239
<v Speaker 1>are against somebody, we are with her, at least in

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<v Speaker 1>some quarters. It's a troubling, troubling tale of modern tribalism.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like doxing almost never. But then you're donating money.

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<v Speaker 1>To this cost. Yeah, she was dropping n bombs on

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<v Speaker 1>a child. Somebody called her on it. But should you

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<v Speaker 1>that's bad behavior?

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<v Speaker 3>But should the world then unite and make sure she

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<v Speaker 3>can't work ever again in her life.

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<v Speaker 1>And run her out of her home? Yeah, I'm not

0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:58.320
<v Speaker 1>saying yeah, I'm saying yes, that is the case.

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<v Speaker 3>Some people refer to that sort of thing, dosing a

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<v Speaker 3>woman like that, the woke right doing the same thing

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<v Speaker 3>that the Wolke left was doing.

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<v Speaker 1>For so long. Right, right, but now but now she's

0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:14.680
<v Speaker 1>going to become wealthy, right response right? Yeah, why that

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<v Speaker 1>is a headspinner, one of the good guys in this story.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, I'll be fishing if you need me,

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<v Speaker 1>modern world, I'm worn out again.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of really good charities out there toose carefully,

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