1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm Strong 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: and Jetty and now he Armstrong and Yetty. 4 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: Were just under forty eight hours until the first votes 5 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: are cast. The most powerful men of the Catholic Church 6 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 2: are focusing their minds and mostly keeping their silence. 7 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: Eminence. Hello, what I said? How is today's meeting? Eminence? 8 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: How is today's meeting? 9 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 2: It's the daily dance of the cardinals and the journalists. 10 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: But the countdown is on. 11 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 3: How many of these journalists give a crap who the 12 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 3: next pope is? 13 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: And I don't know, they're told to go cover it. I 14 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: guess is this touch with this? 15 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 3: I feel like I care more about the Catholic Church 16 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 3: than the average person I know, and I'm not hanging 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 3: on every moment. 18 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not contemptuous of it, but like, I don't 19 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: care who wins the NBA Final, but people enjoy it, 20 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:06,199 Speaker 1: so that's okay. 21 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 3: I do care who's the NBA Final. I'm rooting for 22 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 3: the next I think, assuming the Warriors. I'm a Warrior 23 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 3: band wagon wagon jumper, fake fan, That's what I say. 24 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 3: In the brunts and jersey today, you're the pope a 25 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 3: bandwagon jumpin' Well, I was I gonna say, but it's 26 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 3: got a bit of a combination of the met Gala 27 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 3: and royal family in terms of covering it, doesn't it. 28 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: It's just that sort of thing. Yeah, yeah, certainly the 29 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: direction doctrine wise of the Catholic Church going forward has 30 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: significance to mankind. I just definitely I don't have the 31 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: bandwidth to understand who these people are and root for 32 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: one thing or another. Just let me know who you 33 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: choose to be pope and I'll go from there. I 34 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: thought this was funny, though funny interesting. ABC News last 35 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: night was breathless and taking it one hundred percent seriously 36 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: and looking desperately for clues in the next Climichael. 37 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: But the Archbishop of Jakarta, Indonesia did stop to offer 38 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: a clue. He's one of the one hundred and thirty 39 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: three cardinals who will choose the next pope. 40 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 1: What kind of leader would you like? You can't hear 41 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: the rest of it. He's murmuring, but he's saying, Francis's 42 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: name has come up many times. What does that mean? Simplicity? 43 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: Simplicity of doctrine of lifestyle and then he wandered off 44 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: and ABC News they teased like four times a clue 45 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: from one of the archbishops. I just thought the whole 46 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: thing was a little overcooked. And I believe they overegged 47 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: the pudding. 48 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 3: And if you found out today who the Pope was 49 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 3: going to be two days before they announced it, what 50 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 3: would you do with that information? 51 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: And markets I'd attempt to profit coming up some hilarious 52 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: and bizarre historical notes from the conclaves back in history. 53 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: But first, what about the pope meme put out by 54 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: the White House? S Dounnell J. Trump in Pope garb 55 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: Ai generated? What of that? Ninety three? Michael, Yes, ma'am, 56 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: thank you Cathic. We're not so happy about the image 57 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: of you looking like the Pope. Oh I see. 58 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 3: You mean they can't take a joke. You don't mean 59 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 3: the Catholics, you mean the fake news media, not. 60 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: The Catholics loved it. I had nothing to do with it. 61 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 3: Somebody made up a picture of me dressed like the 62 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 3: Pope and they put it out on the internet. 63 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: That's not me that did it. I have no idea 64 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: where it came from. Maybe it was Ai maybe yeah, yeah, 65 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: just silly. Okay, we're outraged or pretending to be anyway, 66 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: because yeah, there are various Catholic officials and said I 67 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: didn't think that was appropriate, and some have said that 68 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: was really funny. So we're fine. The world is fine. 69 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: We have like one thousand and seventy seven bigger problems 70 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: than that. Why don't we concentrate on those? I thought 71 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: this was amazing looking back to you yesteryear, and when 72 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: I'm talking really yesteryear. The year twelve sixty eight, jack, Wow. 73 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: The conclave in the town of Faturbo near Rome was 74 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: the longest in history. The cardinals were bitterly divided over 75 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: the next pope. The Italian prelates wanted an Italian pope, 76 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: the French wanted a Frenchman, and neither side budged for 77 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: nearly three years. Wow. So to break the deadlock, the 78 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: local population I guess they were sick of all the 79 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: cardinals in town or something, sucking up the good hotel 80 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: rooms and crowding the restaurants, like having the Super Bowl 81 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: in your town for three straight years. I don't know. 82 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: They locked the cardinals in the hall of the papal palace, 83 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: reduced their diet to bread and water, and bricked up 84 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: all the windows. That's the way they even Oh, they 85 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: even removed the roof, which they said was to allow 86 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: the Holy Spirit direct access, but in truth was to 87 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: expose all the cardinals to the elements, so they'd be 88 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: so miserable they'd come to a damned decision. That conclave 89 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: was the longest in history, and it actually gave papal 90 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: elections their modern name comclave Latin for with key. Well, 91 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: back meeting, you're not coming out of there until we 92 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:14,799 Speaker 1: let you. 93 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 3: Back in the day, though, who the pope was and 94 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 3: from what country, and that carried so much important economical, political, political, 95 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 3: and military power. 96 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: I mean it was, you know, it's a big deal. 97 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: That's not the case now. So the eventual winner, Pope 98 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: Gregory the tenth, sought to avoid a repeat by imposing 99 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: some ground rules that still governed conclaves today from the 100 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: year twelve sixty well seventy one, I guess, including strict seclusion, 101 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: daily voting, and some degree of discomfort and roof. This 102 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: is not going to be one of those junkets like 103 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: your local political hacks go on to Hawaii where they 104 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: go to like one meeting a day for an hour 105 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: and spend the rest of the time on the beach. No, 106 00:05:55,040 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: it's the kind of the opposite. A couple more tales 107 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: from history from the book behind Locked Door is a 108 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: history of papal elections. Let's see, that's only mildly interesting. 109 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: In early Christianity, this election of the Bishop of Rome 110 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: was a fluid process, often involving local clergy, powerful notables, 111 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: and popular acclaim. Cardinals didn't even exist until the eleventh century. 112 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: Initially there were only twelve of them. I tell you 113 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 1: what one thing to know, because there is power in 114 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: the papacy, whether it's you know, it's kind of the 115 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: modern version, which is still pretty significant, or the more 116 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: ancient version, which was ginormous power political, financial, economic, et CETERA. 117 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: First conclave in the Sistine Chapel took place in fourteen 118 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: ninety two, the year Christopher Columbus launched the debut election 119 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: in the chapel, marred by scandal. Jack Pope Alexander, the 120 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: sixth member of the wealthy Borgia family, known for his 121 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: lavish lifestyle and many children Wait a minute, many children, yeah, 122 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: secured his election by bribing fellow cardinals with land money, 123 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: and lucrative positions in the Vatican's bureaucracy. There you go, yeah, 124 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: so uh anyway, uh so oh one more note. After 125 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: the Assistine Chapel became the fixed setting for conclaves, cardinals 126 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: shared sleeping quarters in what used to be Alexander the 127 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: Fourth's Fresco department in the Vatican. It was not comfortable. 128 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: It's mean he has six cardinals shared a room with 129 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: makeshift partitions for privacy, bathrooms were few, and cardinals were 130 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: given commode chairs essentially wooden potties to keep next to 131 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: their beds. It's a seat with a hole. When cardinals 132 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: were voting in the Sistine Chapel, staff were coming to 133 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: clean and prepare the rooms for the day after clean 134 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: and dumping their their their bed pots or what any 135 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: of chamber pots. Holy it was a very hot year. 136 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: Let's just say they didn't enjoy staying in these rooms, 137 00:07:55,400 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: said the historian. You you is right, Jack. At least 138 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: they're not locking them in a church and breaking up 139 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: all the windows, taking the road. You're staying in there 140 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: for you anyway, There you have the conclave, which is 141 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: apparently going on now or something. Wake me when it's over. 142 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 3: A combination of the Met Gala and the royal family 143 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: and the Kardashians. 144 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: You know, I did actually scroll through the inevitable New 145 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: York Times incredibly long photo gallery of the Met Gala. 146 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: I am horribly embarrassed and connected and celebrities go do 147 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: what they do whatever. It was horribly embarrassed to say 148 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: that I did the same. I can't. 149 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 3: And while I was doing it, I thought, why are 150 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 3: you thumbing through pictures of people you don't even know 151 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 3: who they are to see what they wore, which you 152 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 3: don't care about, to an event you despise. Why are 153 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: you doing this? But I did it anyway. 154 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: Earlier in the show, I compared it to the capitol 155 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: in the Hunger Games movies, and Jack has not seen those. 156 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: Number one, absolutely appropriate for your teenage boys. It's shockingly 157 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 1: brutal for a PG thirteen movie. It's not horribly graphic, 158 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: but the themes are very, very mature. It's about a republic, 159 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: if you will and stop me if this sounds familiar, friends, 160 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: a republic where the capital has become so rich and 161 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: so isolated from the lives of normal people. It's become 162 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: utterly divorced from them. Abusive of them exploits their riches, 163 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: and the people, the denizens of that capital, dress an 164 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: incredibly elaborate showy self regarding fashion and congratulate each other 165 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: for being a superior race of human beings. Again, if 166 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 1: that sounds oddly familiar, I'll give you a second and 167 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: make the connection in your own brain. 168 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, that's what's interesting about something like the met galawhich, 169 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 3: of course, happens in New York City. So New York City, 170 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 3: which is as lefty and progressive as you can get 171 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 3: as a city in America. And you know, AOC got 172 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 3: so much attention for eat the rich on her dress 173 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 3: at the metal. They aren't doing this in Omaha. They 174 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 3: aren't dressing up like this and owing and aweing over 175 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 3: who's there and in their clothes. They're doing it in 176 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 3: the progressive town. Doesn't that strike you as odd that 177 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 3: you're fawning over, you know, conspicuous consumption and wealth and 178 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 3: fame in your progressive areas where they don't do it 179 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 3: in the conservative Doesn't that seem backwards to you somehow? 180 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: Well, it all to you, But they're utterly without, you know, 181 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: self perception. Progressivism wants to gather as much power as 182 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: it conceivably can, and then direct everything. Who gets into schools, 183 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 1: how the economy works, who can say what, who gets 184 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: to keep their job, who teaches at my university. We 185 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: want to control everything absolutely. 186 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 3: I started reading Joonah Goldberg's book from years ago, Liberal Fascism, 187 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 3: last night, and that's exactly what he talks about. Fascism 188 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 3: is way more of a left thing than it is 189 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 3: a right thing. How it got tagged is a right thing? 190 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, you know, there's a great quote. 191 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's Ein rand Er, somebody 192 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: quoting her, thinking that the difference between communism and fascism 193 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: is absolutely negligible. They both believe in subjugating the individual 194 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: rights of human beings to serve the state, which is 195 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: always the party in charge those with power there. You know, 196 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: they have like interesting doctrinal differences, but to the average 197 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 1: human being being trampled, those doctrinal differences don't amount to 198 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: a hill of beans. It's all about exploiting the working 199 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: people and trampling on individual rights. 200 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 3: Well, one of the main points early is that the 201 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 3: term fascism is almost useless. So here we are throwing 202 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 3: it around much to come stay here. 203 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 4: And finally, a Brazilian nun died last week, just several 204 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 4: weeks shy of our one hundred and seventeenth birthday. 205 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: There's a lesson for everyone there. Always pack your own shoot. 206 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 3: Funny, it would be a dying joke there, Michael, because 207 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:16,599 Speaker 3: that's what I was going to talk about, is I 208 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 3: don't think I'm going to reach my next birthday with 209 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 3: this disease I've got. I'm a sickly man and I'm 210 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 3: not long for this world. Actually got some texts from 211 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 3: people who have got this or they've got family members 212 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 3: who gotten it, and I hope this is some news 213 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 3: you can use rather than me just complaining about being. 214 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: Sick for so long. 215 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 3: There's some sort of cold something going around that lasts 216 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 3: way longer than these things usually. 217 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: At last, we like, we got this text. This is 218 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: for Jack. 219 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 3: I'm a healthy woman, rarely sick, but I've had the 220 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 3: same thing that you have. It's taken me seven weeks 221 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 3: for my cough to leave. The doctor said the cough 222 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 3: with last six to eight weeks. He was right, wow, 223 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 3: And the doctors told me, and the doctors are struggling 224 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 3: with it because everybody's naturally, you know, calling them up 225 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 3: after a month or a month and a half and saying, 226 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 3: what's the. 227 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: Deal, Why do I still feel so crappy? 228 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 3: And Doctor's having to say it's just something that's going 229 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 3: around that takes like two months to kick. 230 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: So I don't know what to do with that information. 231 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: The Uri Djore upper respiratory infection. Is doctor Fauci behind it? 232 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: Has he been working in some secret lab in the 233 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: congo or something gain a function. 234 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 3: I haven't read a word about this, and I'm surprised 235 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 3: I haven't. It's that it's not some mutant strain of 236 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 3: something that combined with something, or our immune systems got 237 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 3: affected or something. Doesn't seem odd that all of a 238 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 3: sudden we've got some two month cold that is hanging around. 239 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 3: It doesn't feel like anything else I've ever had in 240 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 3: my life. Yeah, we got on the topic of last 241 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 3: words earlier, as I think I might. I was worried 242 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 3: that I'm going to die during the show and my 243 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 3: last words are going to be coming up next details 244 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 3: from the Diddy trial, and then I'll die and those 245 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 3: will be my last words. 246 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: Right That would be humiliating. 247 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of people's last words are similar to 248 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 3: that in that they weren't expecting. You know, some people 249 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 3: have last words laying in bed, knowing they're likely to 250 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 3: be their last words, and they're often very profound or 251 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 3: touching or interesting or whatever. 252 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: And actually or whether those were actually the last ones, 253 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: or if you just agreed with your good bodies, can 254 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: you say these are my last words? I'll bet that 255 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: happens a lot. 256 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, which is fine because a lot of the last words, 257 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 3: at least on this list that I'm looking to, or 258 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 3: just the last thing you said, Like Benjamin Franklin said 259 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 3: something about I can't get it comfortable in no matter 260 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 3: what I try to do, you know, something like that 261 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 3: his daughter roll over on his side, and I can't 262 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 3: get comfortable no matter how I lay. Well, that's not 263 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 3: a good last word from one of the great wordsmiths 264 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 3: of all time. Agreed, Yeah, Or you get to choose 265 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 3: not literally your last word. That's a silly you know, 266 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 3: I think about it at my advanced stage. 267 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: That's just a silly way to silly thing to even 268 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: call it. How about you last message? Yeah, that makes 269 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: more sense. Yeah, I mean common. You could be Abraham 270 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: Damn Lincoln and your last words might be I need 271 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: to pee. I mean, Ryan, what that's going to echo 272 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: through the ages? Oh? 273 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, did I already mention the one one of your 274 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 3: great thinkers who said dying is boring? I think that 275 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 3: was George Orwell dying is boring, which I'm. 276 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: Sure it is. 277 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 3: I like this one from some murderer that got the 278 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 3: firing squad. Here's probably a horrible person. They said, do 279 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 3: you have any last words? He said, bring me a 280 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 3: bulletproof vest. I'm here all night. Well for the next 281 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 3: five minutes. 282 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: I salute you in hell wherever you are, sir. That's funny. Yeah. So, 283 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: coming up a couple of governmental issues that I am 284 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: going to work diligently to make not dry, not overly dry. 285 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: Number one, the air traffic control system in our country 286 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: is an embarrassment. Needs to be fixed, and to its credit, 287 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: the Trump administration is going to try like hell to 288 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: fix it. Also, if you think you understand what medicaid is, weld, yes, 289 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: that is the medical aid program for the poor. You 290 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: have no idea. It is a gigantic scam, which we 291 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: will explain I'm thinking during our three of the show. 292 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: And part of the reason it's important to know that 293 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: is that as the Trump administration and Republicans in Congress 294 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: are trying to fix it, they will be accused over 295 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: and over again of trying to balance the budget on 296 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: the back of the poor and take away people's medicaid benefits, 297 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: when that is the polar opposite of what they're trying 298 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: to do. That's frustrating. Oh yeah, yeah. Democracy is a 299 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: terrible system. It can't work. 300 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 3: What's going on with Ukraine and Russia. There's the latest 301 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 3: turn on that. Man I Trump is sending him some 302 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 3: of the most advanced air defense systems from Israel to Ukraine. 303 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 3: Now that's interesting, It is interesting. Don't I have no 304 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 3: idea what's going on behind the scenes on that. Neither's 305 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 3: anybody else. Anyway, We've got a lot on the way. 306 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: Stay here, Armstrong and Getty growing. 307 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 5: Alarm at Noork's Liberty Airport tonight, ABC News learning air 308 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 5: traffic controllers lost radar and communications with planes packed with 309 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 5: passengers for sixty to ninety seconds last week. A system 310 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 5: wide outage last Monday at a Philadelphia facility that manages 311 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 5: the airspace around Newark Airport caused controllers to lose the 312 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 5: ability to see, hear, or talk to all arriving and 313 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 5: departing aircraft at one of the busiest airports in the country. 314 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: Ninety seconds is a long time. Yeah, really shocking. A 315 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,959 Speaker 1: one more note on how it unfolded next clip. Then 316 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: we'll discuss pilots can be heard learning of the outage 317 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: over the radio. I discusshold it approach loss. All the radars. 318 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: Three of the core radar screens wet black, and they have. 319 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 5: No frequency controllers from another tower advising pilots that radio frequencies. 320 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: Have failed, and they want you to be advising. They 321 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: may not be able to raid our contact to you 322 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: because of the radar issues, and they may lose you 323 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: on for certain times of when you're applying. I have 324 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: a handful of friends and neighbors who are frequent flyers, 325 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 1: business people, and we have agreed number one, air travel 326 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: is degenerated significantly in its pleasantness over the last you 327 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: know number of years. 328 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 3: Luckily that I won't have to deal with it anymore 329 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 3: because I didn't get the real ID, so it'll no 330 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 3: longer be. 331 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: A problem for me. Hey, it's the curse, that's a 332 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: blessing exactly. 333 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 5: Ah. 334 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 1: And we've also agreed that even when it goes well, 335 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: it goes poorly right the air travel these days. So 336 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: I thought this was really interesting. I mean, putting aside 337 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: that incident, which is terrible, We'll not putting it aside. 338 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: Let's just put it over there and we'll talk about it. 339 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 1: The Wall Street Journal editorial board with a great piece 340 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: about the America's air traffic fiasco, and they focus on 341 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: Newark Airport. And if you've never had the pleasure quote 342 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: unquote of flying into Newark, I suggest you never do. 343 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: If you're going to New York and Jfkin Laguardi are 344 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: booked up, why don't you fly to Bridgeport, Connecticut and 345 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: walk into New York City before you go to Newark. 346 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: So thousands of flights in and out of Newark in 347 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: recent days have been delayed, diverted, or canceled because of 348 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: air traffic control failures. And President Trump and his transportations 349 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,479 Speaker 1: are actually taking steps to fix this, which we'll talk 350 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 1: about in a minute. But the headaches at Newark began 351 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: last Monday when the Philadelphia Air Traffic Control facility what 352 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: they were just saying, had equipment malfunctions. So the FAA 353 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: finally resolved the technical snaffoos, but flight disruptions persisted because 354 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: of a shortage of controllers. How is there a short controllers? 355 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: How do we not have I mean, given the priority 356 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: that that is, how do we not pay them en 357 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: off and treat them well enough to have enough of them? 358 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: Bureaucracy is the answer, honestly. But United Airlines on Friday 359 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: canceled thirty five daily round trip flights at the airport. 360 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: For instance, the CEO said he decided to walk out 361 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: by more than twenty percent of the controllers at the site. 362 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: Flight delays at Newark averaged four hours on some day. 363 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: My god, that was the average, and it continued Monday, 364 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: and such delays could be the new normal this summer. 365 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: But then they credit Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy for at 366 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: least acknowledging government is to blame, unlike his Biden predecessor 367 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: Pete Buddhage Edge and Edge who blamed airlines well doing 368 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 1: little to nothing to fix long standing problems. Then they 369 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: describe what the long standing problems are. And folks in 370 00:20:55,040 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: private enterprise, particularly anybody who leans on tech deals with tech, 371 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna if you don't already know about this, you're 372 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: gonna just be astounded. Congress in twenty oh three. Those 373 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: not gifted in the arts of mathematics, it's twenty two 374 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: years ago directed the FAA to modernize its systems, so 375 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: they started the next gen overhaul, which is set to 376 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: be completed in the year twenty thirty. Wow, all you 377 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: tech guys and gals are saying the same thing. Whoa whoa, whoa, 378 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: whoa whoa whoa. No, No, that's not a thing. You 379 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: don't start something in twenty oh three and stick with 380 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: it through twenty thirty. You've overhauled the system sixty nine 381 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: times in that period, not stuck with the same quote 382 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 1: unquote overhaul that was started in oh three. Well, we're right. 383 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 3: You're talking about a tech overhaul that started before smartphones existed. 384 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 3: I mean, that's how much technology has changed since night. 385 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: It's like you and your your wife looking at your 386 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: three month old child and saying, we need bigger clothes 387 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: because the kid is growing fast. Let's study the problem 388 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: and will implement a bigger closed plan when he's twenty four. 389 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: I mean, your kid's gonna be naked for a long time. Yeah. 390 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, except clothes don't change that much. The whole tech thing. 391 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 3: Tech has changed so much in that amount of time. 392 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 3: What about tsking they laid out in the beginning is 393 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 3: pointless now. 394 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's utterly irrelevant. So as mister Duffy the 395 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: sectrans notes, the FAA literally still uses floppy discs. Does 396 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,239 Speaker 1: gen Z even know what those are? Few technicians can 397 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: even repair its aging systems, some of which are more 398 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: than sixty years old. It's like trying to find some 399 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: handyman to fix your Victrola that you inherited from your 400 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: great grandma. 401 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 3: That's got to be pretty funny for a tech guy 402 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 3: to come in and he's never seen a floppy disk, 403 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 3: or maybe even never heard of one. 404 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: I'm old, so I've seen them. 405 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 3: But we did get a number of texts when we 406 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 3: mentioned this earlier that is that on purpose because they're unhackable. 407 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 3: You can't can't hack into floppy discs like you can 408 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 3: every Internet based modern thing. 409 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: Well if so, if so, say so. But surely a 410 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: thumb drive is a better idea. A not connected to 411 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: the Internet and a floppy disc they're both discrete carriers 412 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: of data. 413 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 3: I think you're giving too much credit if you think 414 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 3: it was some on purpose thing. 415 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, please just get lead follow er, get out of 416 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: the way. The Government Accountability Office reported in March that 417 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: seventy six percent of FAA systems are unsustainable or potentially unsustainable, 418 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: which may have quote critical operational impacts on safety and efficiency. 419 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: Bloomberg News reports that controllers guiding planes at Newark lost 420 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: radio and communications and radar for more than a minute 421 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: on Monday, like we were talking about, Luckily there were 422 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: no accidents. Boys. 423 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 3: That has to be just that everybody in the air 424 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 3: during those ninety seconds just went ahead and kept doing 425 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 3: what they are doing. If one person thought, oh boy, 426 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 3: no connection, I better pull up and land after we 427 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 3: get this straightened out, well, then you could have just 428 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 3: had a cascading series of disasters. 429 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't I have not actually heard anybody describe 430 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: what pilots did if they were, you know, two minutes 431 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: out from landing, if they were in their final approach, 432 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: what did they do? I don't know. But ninety seconds 433 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: is a long time. 434 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 3: I mean, you could be from way the hell up 435 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 3: there to on the ground in I guess, oh. 436 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, you're going. You know, it's certainly you're 437 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: sloan for landing in this scenario, but you're going a 438 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: couple hundred miles per hour. Certainly anyway DA or oh 439 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 1: get this. The GAO Government Accountability Office is quote completion 440 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: dates for planned investments for systems. It deems quote especially 441 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: concerning we're at least six to ten years away. Can 442 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: you imagine again it consultants. You get hired by some 443 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: I don't know, chain of restaurants or something whatever, some 444 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: significant sized local business and they say, hey, we really 445 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: need to upgrade our systems, and you tell them, yep, 446 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: we're going to need six to ten years. You'd be 447 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: hooted out of the place. Now, Technological obsolescence is common 448 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: among the federal across the federal bureaucracy because there's no 449 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: financial motive to become more efficient singing from Tim Sanderfer's 450 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: hymn book here. FAA labor agreements also require the government 451 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: to work collaboratively with the Air Traffic Controller union on modernization, 452 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: which can delay upgrades or divert staff from their day jobs. 453 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: It's much like the ports, where the powerful long shoreman's 454 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: union prevent any technological upgrades on. But you know in 455 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: that world we're talking about, yeah, the technological stuff involving 456 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: the cranes and all that matters. The you know, the 457 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: automation matters, but a lot of it's just as silly 458 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: as having a human read license plates instead of US scanner. 459 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: Just to keep the jobs. But this is the faa 460 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: This prevents people from dying in horrible fiery wrecks. The 461 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: FAAC says it needs three thousand controllers to be fully staffed, 462 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: and shortages are especially acute in the New York City region. 463 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. Well, he's one thing. 464 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 3: We keep talking about danger, which I understand, especially if 465 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 3: there was a you know, a blackout there for ninety seconds. 466 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 3: But flying is insanely safe. It's the safest thing I'll 467 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 3: do every time I do it. The hassle part of it, though, 468 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 3: as you mentioned earlier, has gotten exponentially worse. I think 469 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 3: we all go to the airport with the expectation of 470 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 3: a delay now as opposed to that is a you know, 471 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 3: an aberration, that's what you expect. It's somewhat shocking when 472 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 3: you walk up to departure and see that you're actually 473 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 3: leaving when you were supposed to leave. 474 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: One more note, and they go through some of the 475 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: labor disagreements with the union, government employee unions are a 476 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 1: force for evil. I understand why they exist, even FDR 477 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: thought they should not. As a topic for another day, 478 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: but I wanted to get to this part. Americans who 479 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: want to become controllers must undergo three to five months 480 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: of paid training at the FAA Academy in Oklahoma City, 481 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: followed by a three year apprenticeship at a control facility. 482 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: The Obama administration eased standards to boost minority enrollment at 483 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: the FAA Academy Affirmative Action FAA DEI. FAA lower standards 484 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: have resulted in higher attrition. Half of the students who 485 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: enter the academy don't finish their training. It's a lot 486 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: like promoting kids who can't hack the elite universities to 487 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 1: the elite universities to improve their numbers, when those kids 488 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: would be so much more likely to be happy and 489 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: successful at not quite so brutal a facility. The airline 490 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: says the FAA could be could better screen applicants and 491 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: reduce certification times by thirty percent with more effective training, 492 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: including high fidelity simulators. In short, to behave much. 493 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 3: More like a private enterprise, but three years of training 494 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 3: and in the three year whatever like an internship. 495 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: It's like becoming a doctor. 496 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 3: To be a air traffic controller. 497 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,479 Speaker 1: It's three to five months of paid training and then 498 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: a three year apprenticeship. You're an assistant controller. It's you know, well, yeah, 499 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: but you are going to hear guaranteed, you're gonna hear 500 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: the Secretary of Transportation whose name keeps flitting out of 501 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: my head. These a hero to millions. Everybody knows, I'm 502 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: Sean Duffy. That's it. You're going to hear him and 503 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: Trump talk about how we need to do this, and 504 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna see Chuck Schumer on the steps of the 505 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: Capitol talking about they're trying to undercut a hardworking controllers 506 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: with these radical changes that will endanger airline passion because 507 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: he's just a slave to the unions. 508 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 3: Wow, that is disturbed. So you pushed a bunch of 509 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 3: people onto that career path who probably thought it pays 510 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 3: how much and whatever, Sure I'll sign up, but you 511 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 3: just can't cut it for whatever reason. To try to 512 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 3: end up with all that's a disparate impact thing that's 513 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 3: not good, right. 514 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: Just coming up maybe next hour, trying to squeeze it 515 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: in the next hour. It strikes me that these two 516 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: things are very much connected. Matthew Countinetti, who's with the 517 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: Free Press now, actually listened to all of Trump's address 518 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: to the University of Alabama. They're a commencement speech thing. 519 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: And Trump went through his ten guiding principles, and one 520 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: of them had to do with the need to change 521 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: things when they need to be changed, and not be 522 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: so enamored with the status quo that you lose your 523 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: ability to see what needs to change. I'm paraphrasing a 524 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: lot here, but this is a perfect example of that. 525 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: Obama Biden. They were not going to say this is 526 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: broker fixing it. They would say, ah, let's tweak around 527 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: the edges. We don't want to offend this constituency. We 528 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: got this union mad at us. That would cost a 529 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: lot of money. They're not innovators. And Trump, for all 530 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: of you know his quirks that make me insane, Trump 531 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: is a guy who will say, Nope, we're getting rid 532 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: of this because it doesn't work, and thank goodness, because 533 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: it really needs to happen. 534 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 3: Cool Michelle Obama says she's in therapy and reveals why. 535 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 3: As divorce rumors swirl continue to swirl, among other incredibly 536 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 3: unimportant stories we can get to stay with us. 537 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 4: Ture is filling out this written questionnaire saying there may 538 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 4: be graphic and sexually explicit evidence in connection with the case, 539 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 4: and asking if they're anything that would make it difficult 540 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 4: for you to be fair and impartial many perspective. Touris 541 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 4: also saying they recognized the names of other celebrities that might. 542 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: Come up at trial. The judge tried to. 543 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 4: Keep things moving, so when the defense asked for a 544 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 4: bathroom break, Colms apologize, saying, sorry, Judge, I'm a little 545 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 4: nervous today. His lawyers are aiming to convince the jury 546 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 4: the government is trying to police consensual sex by a 547 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 4: swinger who they say invited others into his bedroom. 548 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 3: Consensual sex. I'm just a swinger. I invited people to 549 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 3: my bedroom. Is that what invitations are out of bounds? 550 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: Now? Why is the government trying to criminalize my freewheeling lifestyle? Right? 551 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 3: Just because your vanilla doesn't mean that I have to be. 552 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: Sure I'd beaten, kick women and drug people and threaten 553 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: them and transport them across the state lines, which doesn't 554 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: trouble me. I've been transported across state lines and I 555 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: came out fine. But that video, that video is what's 556 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: going to do him. 557 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 3: In the video of him dragging that, I mean once 558 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 3: you either are a guy who can do that or 559 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 3: you're not all right. And you know that's that speaks volumes, 560 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 3: And most of the jurors asked yesterday said they had 561 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 3: seen that video. 562 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, if you are being accused of brutality and 563 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: can watch brutality, yeah, that's gonna help convict you. Yeah, 564 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: it kind of hurts the hole. 565 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 3: I'm not the kind of guy that would ever do 566 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 3: that if they've got a video of you doing that. 567 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: But again, as I've said many times, wait till the 568 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: defense takes its shot, because that can really change perceptions. 569 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 3: Update on that Pittsburgh Pirate fan who did a summersault onto. 570 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: The field last week. 571 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 3: Took us a couple of days to get the information 572 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 3: that he was had taken off his shirt and poured 573 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 3: beer on his head. 574 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: While the Pirates were rallying, Yes, very excited before he rolled. 575 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 3: Out of his seat onto the field, so it seemed 576 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 3: that exuberant partying may have played a role. 577 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: Authorities believe alcohol was involved as the operative phraser. 578 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 3: Twenty year old Caven Markwood took his first depths yesterday. Yeah, 579 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 3: he broke his neck, his back and his collar bone. 580 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: Oh, had to be some brain injury there too, huh. 581 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. 582 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 3: They haven't said anything about that. They're doing a GoFundMe 583 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 3: to try to help pay his medical bills. But you know, 584 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 3: and it's nice, you know. I mean, man, there's a 585 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 3: lot of charities out there. There are a lot of 586 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 3: charities out there that need money. And guy who strips 587 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 3: off his shirt, pours pier on his head and tumbles 588 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 3: onto the field. 589 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. 590 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 3: Choose your charity dollars, how you want to spend him. 591 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: But we've got to discuss think about whether we want 592 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: to do this. There's a story out there this gal 593 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: was dropping in bombs in a park and it went viral. 594 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: She's defiant in the video, and she was docked and 595 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: exposed and berated blah blah blah by progressive types. In return, 596 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: the far right has come to her aid and she's 597 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: getting close to a million dollars on her not GoFundMe, 598 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: but a similar page. We become so tribal. If they 599 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: are against somebody, we are with her, at least in 600 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 1: some quarters. It's a troubling, troubling tale of modern tribalism. 601 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 3: I don't like doxing almost never. But then you're donating money. 602 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: To this cost. Yeah, she was dropping n bombs on 603 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: a child. Somebody called her on it. But should you 604 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: that's bad behavior? 605 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 3: But should the world then unite and make sure she 606 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 3: can't work ever again in her life. 607 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: And run her out of her home? Yeah, I'm not 608 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 1: saying yeah, I'm saying yes, that is the case. 609 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 3: Some people refer to that sort of thing, dosing a 610 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 3: woman like that, the woke right doing the same thing 611 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 3: that the Wolke left was doing. 612 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: For so long. Right, right, but now but now she's 613 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: going to become wealthy, right response right? Yeah, why that 614 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,720 Speaker 1: is a headspinner, one of the good guys in this story. 615 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 1: You know what, I'll be fishing if you need me, 616 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: modern world, I'm worn out again. 617 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 3: There's a lot of really good charities out there toose carefully, 618 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,280 Speaker 3: all right. If you miss a segment, get the podcast 619 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 3: Armstrong and Getty on demand. 620 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,280 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty