1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Hello, America, Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. This 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: is Jeffrey Lord sitting in for our friend Sean Hannity, 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: and we have a special guest on with us. Now. 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: We will be talking to journalist Michael Schellenberger. And you 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: may have seen him in the news because, as you know, 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: he's one of the independent journalists who's been tapped by 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: Elon Muskin. I think in this case, Barry weiss to 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: sift through round seven of the Twitter files, and what 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: Michael has uncovered is just stunning. It's no joke, it's 10 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: I find it really chilling. And as a result of 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: what he has discovered, Michael is calling for Congress to 12 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: probe revelations the FBI and the intelligence community worked to 13 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: discredit quote unquote the Hunter Biden laptop story that appeared 14 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: in The New York Post ahead of the twenty twenty 15 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: presidential election. So, without further ado, Hello, Michael, how are 16 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: you good? Hey? Thanks for having me. You bet, you bet? 17 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about this what you what 18 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: you've discovered. I mean, I think this is such a 19 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: bizarre set of stories here, but it doesn't I have say, 20 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: it doesn't surprise me. In the least that stuff was 21 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: going on. What have you seen here was as you've 22 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: been going through this, well, if you you know what 23 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: it appears to be, and I can't entirely prove, and 24 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: that's partly why we need an investigation. But it appears 25 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: to have been an organized influence campaign by the FBI 26 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: and retired FBI officials, including in the former Chief Council, 27 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: potentially the former deputy chief of staff at Twitter, trying 28 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: to basically prime both news organizations and social media platforms, 29 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: namely Twitter and Facebook, to view the Hunter Biden laptop 30 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: as a product of Russian disinformation rather than for what 31 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: it really was, which was something turned over by a 32 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: whistleblower to the FBI in December twenty nineteen. He was 33 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: a computer repair store owner. FBI had that laptop since 34 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: December twenty nineteen, and yet through all of twenty twenty, 35 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: the FBI and former FBI officials, but inside and outside 36 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: of Twitter, and we think also Facebook, we're communicating that 37 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: they should be on guard for a hack in league operation, 38 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: meaning where the Russians would supposedly hack into somebody's computer 39 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: and then leak it, but it would be misinformation, and 40 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: we now know that that really influenced how Twitter and 41 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: everybody else, the news media and then ultimately the public 42 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: perceived the Hunter Biden laptop, so that a lot of people, 43 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: including myself, dismissed the laptop as real and we're very 44 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: suspicious of it when we should have taken its contents 45 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: more seriously. What are your thoughts, I mean, we had 46 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: those what was it fifty people from the intelligence community 47 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: come out and say this was Russian disinformation. How much 48 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: of this do you think was genuinely they didn't understand 49 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: and how much of it do you think was just 50 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: deliberately designed to save Joe Biden. I think I have 51 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: to say, after looking at all of this, I would 52 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: say like one hundred percent is from wanting to protect 53 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: Biden and they wanted to give rid to Trump. I mean, 54 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: these are characters who have been on the record as 55 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 1: wanting to give rid of Trump for years. I also, 56 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: I didn't even mention that episode, by the way, in 57 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: I wrote Twitter Files Part seven and I didn't even 58 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: get to that, which is but when you look at 59 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: all of these things together, there's clearly an influenced campaign. 60 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: Now howbody could say, well, it wasn't organized it was 61 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: more you know, tasc it, but it was incredibly effective. 62 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: Incredibly there was people working on the inside of Twitter, 63 00:03:55,560 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: people outside of Twitter. There were the national security the 64 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: retired national security executives who signed that letter. And there 65 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: was also very strange an Aspen Institute workshop where they 66 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: took the senior news executives and national security correspondence for 67 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: the New York Times, Washington Post, NPR, and Twitter and 68 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: Facebook and they got them together for what they call 69 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: a tabletop exercise, which is basically to do a scenario 70 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: for how to I mean, if I'm being honest, how 71 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: to not cover or miscover the Hunter buying laptop. And 72 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: they did that in September, so one month before the 73 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: laptop came to the public's view. Wow. Wow, that is incredible. Well, 74 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: one of the concerns, and you know, I wrote this 75 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 1: book called Swamp Wars, Donald Trump and the New American 76 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: Populism Versus the Old Order, and one of the things 77 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: that I've worked in Washington for a long time for Congressman, 78 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: senator president that would be President Reagan and then Jack 79 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: Kemp has hud when he was secretary in the Bush administration. 80 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: You really do come away with the impression after all 81 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: of that, that there is a swamp here, that it's, 82 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: as I've said earlier in the show, not unlike junior 83 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: high school. You've got the cool kids and you've got 84 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: the not so cool kids, and the cool kids run 85 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: the show. And when you when you get to something 86 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: like this, this is just to me incredibly dangerous. If 87 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: you've got this combination of big tech and big media, 88 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: um withholding information in essence from the American not in 89 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: essence in reality from the American people, that that is 90 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: a real problem. And that speaks exactly to why what 91 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: you were doing and Barry Weiss and Matt Taiebe are 92 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: important here because you have to be people who are 93 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: willing to really investigate and wow, we'll talk about a 94 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: shortage of that. Yeah, I mean, I think it's um 95 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: it's alarming, and to which you can see people basically 96 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: taking efforts to prevent the public from considering what the 97 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: Biden family business has been. I mean, this is it's 98 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: important for people to understand that there's literally tens of 99 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: millions of dollars that've gone to Joe Biden's son, to 100 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's brother from powerful foreign interests, including four Chinese 101 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: individuals who are tied to the highest levels of Chinese intelligence. 102 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: So this is not a minor issue. This is not 103 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: This is around countries that are direct geopolitical rivals paying 104 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: money into the Biden family. And maybe you think that 105 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: that that'll be okay or you're not worried about that, 106 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: But then why would there have been this huge cover 107 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: up of it that went on for so long and 108 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: then a real misinformation campaign related to it. It doesn't 109 00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: make any sense, you know. I think that I think 110 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: it rais is really disturbing questions around both the role 111 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: of the FBI. I think the FBI needs to be 112 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: cleaned out. There needs to be a depoliticization of the FBI. 113 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: It's almost important law enforcement of a body. And I 114 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: also think it's an indictment of the news media. They 115 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: are these reporters that are basically doing they're they're acting 116 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: as public relations staff for the national security state, rather 117 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: than playing the typical role of journalists, which is to 118 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: be skeptical of power and inquiring of power and critical 119 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, I think that's a I think you 120 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: got it absolutely right here, and this is a problem, 121 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: and I'm frankly we were just talking with Congressman James 122 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: Comer from Kentucky, who's going to be the incoming chair 123 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: of the House Oversight Committee, and I think that this 124 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: is this kind of thing is going to get some 125 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: examination from him and from his committee as as well. 126 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: It should. I mean, I think this kind of mentality 127 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: has has dominated the January sixth Committee, the selection of 128 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: the members. You know, they're all they're all there, Republican 129 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: or Democrat because they can't stand Donald Trump, you know, 130 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: and there's no there's no defense allowed, no cross examination, 131 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: none of this. I mean, when you think of the 132 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: really fundamental American values that are being you know, trashed 133 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: basically and uh not not followed, how much in a 134 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: physical sense, how much of this Twitter stuff have you 135 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: had to go through? I mean, I can I have 136 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: this image in my head of you and everybody else 137 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: involved in this sitting up into the wee hours, you know, 138 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: and looking at you know, Twitter, Twitter number one thousand 139 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: and seven hundred and five, etc. How much of this 140 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: was there and how long did it take you to 141 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: go through? Yeah, I mean it is. It's enormous amount 142 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: of information, and yeah, I definitely have been until I 143 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: published my piece. I just wasn't doing any I wasn't 144 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: returning any phone calls on any of the other things 145 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: I work on, because you know, part of it is 146 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: that there's there's hundreds of thousands of documents that we've 147 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: had to read through, and it's like anything, you know, 148 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: most of it is just the ordinary business work, and 149 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: so you're looking for the really critical moments. And then, 150 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: of course, I think it's well publicized that Twitter is 151 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: struggling financially, that Elon overpaid for it, or at least 152 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: overpaid for acointed it's market value. I think Twitter has 153 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: a social public value that's much higher than its financial value. 154 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 1: But nonetheless, the people getting us the documents, everyone's being 155 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: pulled off from doing stuff to save the company to 156 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: give us these documents. So we're very grateful to them 157 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: for whatever you think of you know, Elon Musk, you 158 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: know this is a he's done a real public service 159 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: and making these documents available. So we feel very blessed. 160 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: I've had it, and honestly, I think that in my 161 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: Twitter thread, I think there's plenty of information in that 162 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: single Twitter Files Part seven to justify a serious congressional 163 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: investigation and maybe a special prosecutor, because Wow, the documents 164 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: that we've revealed show show the pattern quite quite clearly. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well, 165 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: as I, as I said to another of our guests, uh, 166 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: and knowing that I was going to be having a 167 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: conversation over the course of the show today about the FBI, 168 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: I went back and looked at a book about the 169 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: FBI written by a guy named Ronald Kessler who did 170 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: an in depth study of it, and and there you 171 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: find what was sort of amusing to me, since this 172 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: was long ago, j Edgar Hoover basically telling President Kennedy 173 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: he's got he's got an informant who says that he 174 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: was President Kennedy was married before Jackie. Then then he 175 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: tells Robert Kennedy, who's not only the President's brother but 176 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 1: Attorney generalman therefore Hoover's boss, that he has information from 177 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: an agent that he was had that he Bobby Kennedy 178 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: was having an affair with a woman in al Passo, 179 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: and Robert Kennedy replied icily he'd never been to hell 180 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: pass And then he did the same thing with Richard Nixon. 181 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: We have information, sir that you're that you've been having 182 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: an affair with a woman in China. So, you know, 183 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: as much as I admire the FBI and new at 184 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: least one agent who lived in my area of Pennsylvania 185 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: and was a straight arrow, I mean, there's a history 186 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: here of the FBI not being as good as it 187 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: should be when it comes to these things. And I 188 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: just think this has gotten out of control, that this 189 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: this whole business of you know, hating Donald Trump has 190 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 1: really pulled the curtain back. Because I think it's about 191 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: more than Donald Trump. I think if you've got people 192 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: in these positions thinking that they can do whatever they 193 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: want and not get caught and manipulate the American media 194 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: or big tech, and not to mention, if you've got 195 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: people in big tech all too willing to be manipulated, 196 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: this is this is a problem. Yes, well Michael, I 197 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: mean go ahead, go ahead, Well no, I mean these 198 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: are you know, I think the thing that gives me 199 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: some hope you may that you know, people, it went 200 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: viral on Twitter the day the testimony of Frank Church 201 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: and believe nineteen seventy four, nineteen seventy five, who's a 202 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: member of Congress or maybe a senator who would involved 203 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 1: in kind of cleaning up the intelligence agencies which had 204 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: been had had really had been there had been the 205 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: abuse of power. I mean, those words kept bringing through 206 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: my head as I've been working on this of the 207 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, of abuse of power, and and 208 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: I think that that you know, these institutions, they periodically 209 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: are corrupted. I mean, I think our founding fathers were 210 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: where that this would happen. And so you have basically 211 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: a good system, but we need we need to clean 212 00:12:55,760 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: up these agencies and root out the politicization of them 213 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: right and get some new oversights, some new mechanisms. But 214 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 1: basically it's time. I just think after a while, these 215 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: institutions go bad. And on the media. So that's on 216 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: the on the FBI side. On the media side, you know, 217 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: the internet is changing everything. The social media environment has 218 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: opened up new voices so that you know, Elon Musk 219 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: is working. You know, the people that emails are independent, 220 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: are not at the traditional corporate media. We're independent. But 221 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: now the media has to kind of follow what we're 222 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: writing on this. I think people don't trust the corporate 223 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: news media, the mainstream news media very much anymore. And 224 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: and so I think that some of these reforms are 225 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: going to occur thanks to technology as well. Yeah, I 226 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: think you're exactly right. We live in a new world 227 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: here and we've all got to figure out how to adjust. Michael. 228 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: Thank you. We're running out of time here, so thank 229 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: you very much for taking the time to talk to us. 230 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: And this story is not going away, so keep at it. 231 00:13:58,160 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for having me you bet by bye, 232 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: all right, thank you, Michael. That was Michael Shellenberger who 233 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: just dropped the Twitter Files number seven, which certainly deserves 234 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: a much closer look and an investigation into the Biden family, 235 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: China and big Tech. My name is Jeffrey Lord, sitting 236 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: in for Sean Hannity today. Please follow me at Real 237 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Lord and listen to my podcast wherever podcasts are found. 238 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: You can follow me at True Social and The Word 239 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: of the Lord and my website the Jeffreylord dot Com. 240 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: This is Jeffrey Lord from the Word of the Lord 241 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: with Jeffrey Lord and the Jeffreylord dot Com and the 242 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: American Spectator and Newsmax TV and NewsBusters and the world. 243 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: Oh wow, we rounded it out and put it all 244 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: from the world. So Linda and I will return shortly 245 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: and We're going to have an interesting discussion about President 246 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: Biden and how he sort of does things and doesn't 247 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: do them so well, and where they're sort of smarter 248 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: or not, and whether he has a history, and he 249 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: does have a history, and in one case of this, 250 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: I personally can testify it to it because it rhymes 251 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: with that's all right, that's right. So we will be 252 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: back very very shortly here and close out the night. 253 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: This is Jeffrey Lord for Sean Hannity. And that number 254 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: is eight hundred nine one seven, three two six or 255 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: eight hundred nine for one seawn if you want to 256 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: do it that way. This is Jeffrey Lord, and welcome 257 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: back to the last half hour of the Sean Hannity Show. 258 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: We are a handful of days from Christmas. You know, Linda, 259 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: the one person, and I know you tried so hard 260 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: to get him on the show, but it was Santa 261 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: Claus and he, I mean, he just moralists blew us 262 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: off and said he had this thing he had to do. 263 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: He was like ho ho ho, Rudolph was acting up, 264 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: and I guess there were some problems there. So I 265 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: think it was probably a good thing that we didn't, 266 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: you know, have him on and it's hard to find 267 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: good help. Yeah, yeah, you know, and all those little 268 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: elves and all this kind of thing. I mean, it's 269 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: just it's just difficult. So they unionized. Man, it got weird, 270 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: Yes it did. It did quickly. And then you find 271 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: out that it's not Will what's his name, Will Farrell? 272 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: You know that. Listen, there are real elves out there. 273 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: I love elf, I love Jimmy congat restas soul, and 274 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: I love Will Farrell. That movie is amazing. I found 275 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: out yesterday it is twenty years old, and my heart 276 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: hurt a little. Oh wow, is that right old? So 277 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: you saw it when you were five? Clearly it's actually 278 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: four and a half. But he's gouting. All right, Well, 279 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: we're going to have a little discussion here about our 280 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: our president and some of the problems he's been having. 281 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: And you know, just this minute, a story has popped 282 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: up on Fox News and the headline is Biden fumed, 283 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: dropped f bombs as border crisis intensified, a new book claims, 284 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: and you just think, how did he get into this 285 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: situation in the first place. And it's been my observation, 286 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: I'm certainly not alone that sadly is not the sharpest 287 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: knife in the drawer when it comes to solutions and 288 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: various situations, and that has gotten him in trouble before. 289 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: When he was running for president in nineteen eighty seven, 290 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,239 Speaker 1: he was simultaneously chairing the Robert Bork Herrings when I 291 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: was a young White House aide to President Reagan and 292 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: running for president at the same time, and he was 293 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: running against one of his opponents was Michael Ducaccus, the 294 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: then Democratic governor Massachusetts. Will finally wound up winning the nomination, 295 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: and Michael Dacoccus put together a little split screen deal 296 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: that showed the British Labor Party leader of the day, 297 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: Neil Kinnock, going on about his family from Wales and 298 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: how they were Welsh coal miners and how did he 299 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: get an education and his wife get an education in 300 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: all this and you know why am I the King Kenneck? Well, 301 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: the Ducacas campaign discovered in video Joe Biden out on 302 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: the campaign trail using exactly that story from Neil Kinnock, 303 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: except he changed it to the Bidens and Scranton instead 304 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 1: of Wales. So they put together this clip and then 305 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: we got into a situation where Joe Biden's campaign was 306 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: saying it was a mistake and he doesn't do this 307 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: kind of thing, And as it turns out, I had. 308 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:49,239 Speaker 1: I had caught him plagiarizing, and I notified the New 309 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: York Times and the backstory on this. Really I just 310 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: set up for the audience. So Jeffer and I were 311 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: talking before we got on the air, and Jeff starts 312 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: telling me this story. I'm like, you gotta tell it 313 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: like this on the air, like it's just it gives 314 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: you the picture of how these things actually used to 315 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: happen when people were telling the truth as you did. 316 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: So when I was a kid, a seventeen year old 317 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: teenager living in Allentown, Pennsylvania, I was going to finishing 318 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: my last two years of high school there, and I 319 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: was a big fan of then Senator Robert F. Kennedy, 320 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: the brother of President and the late President Kennedy at 321 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: that point, who was himself running for president in nineteen 322 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: sixty eight against in the primaries against Democratic President Lyndon Johnson, 323 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: and he had competition from Minnesota Senator Eugene McCarthy, and 324 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: quite sadly, he was in Los Angeles the night he 325 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: won the California Democratic primary, and he thanks everybody. He says, 326 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 1: you know, and now it's on to Chicago, where the 327 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: convention is going to be, and let's win there. And 328 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: he starts to turn and somebody grabs him and says, Senator, 329 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: come this way, and they take him off the podium 330 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: and back through the kitchen of the hotel, and there 331 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: on the top of a table was a young Palestinian 332 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: guy named Sir Hans. Sir hand with the pistol, and 333 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: he shoots and kills Robert Kennedy. Senator Kennedy lasted for 334 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: maybe twenty four hours or something, but he passed away. 335 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: The nation was in shock. It was just it was awful. 336 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: And my good old Nixon loving mother consented to getting 337 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: on a bus with me from Allentown and went into 338 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: New York and stood in line to go past the 339 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: Kennedy casket in Saint Patrick's Cathedral. We stood in line 340 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 1: for hours so that, you know, I could reach out 341 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: and touch the flag on the casket and all this 342 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: sort of thing. Some time after that, some people in 343 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: the record business put together these long playing records which 344 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: were popular in the day of Robert. It was a 345 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: collection of Robert Kennedy's speeches and little geek that I was. 346 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: I would sit there in my room and listen to 347 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: them for hours and memory okay, flash ahead to September 348 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: of nineteen eighty seven, and this whole incident with a 349 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: plagiarizing Neil Kinnock comes forward, and the Biden campaign says, oh, well, 350 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: this was a mistake and he doesn't do this. Come. 351 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: I knew this not to be so because I had 352 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: heard him on a campaign stop in California a few 353 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: months earlier, and I thought, well, I'll listen to him. 354 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 1: It was a snowy day in Washington and everybody had 355 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: gone home. So I'm sitting there alone in my White 356 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: House office with a TV on, and I'm listening, and 357 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: I began to realize that, strangely, I'm getting to the 358 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: end of his sentences before he is, and I thought, 359 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: you know, is this is just stunning. He's outright plagiarizing 360 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: from Bobby Kennedy. So when this other incident happened and 361 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: it was said that he didn't do this, I picked 362 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: up the phone and called Maureen Dowd, than a columnist 363 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: then a reporter for the New York Times. Told her 364 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: she was astounded and asked if I could document it, 365 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: and I said sure, and I went home to my 366 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: parents house, went into the basement, pulled out the records, 367 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: brought her back, gave it to the New York Times, 368 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: and within two days they had a story. It was 369 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: a front page story. On the inside of it, I 370 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: was I was quoted, So I just thought we would talk. 371 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: My point is, how smart is the president because it's 372 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 1: it's just unimaginably not smart to plagiarize in the first case, 373 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 1: the leader of the British Labor Party, who's no private 374 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: citizen that no one knows. Of course they have somebody 375 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: had video of it. And it wasn't smart to plagiarize 376 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: Robert Kennedy because it was Robert Kennedy was one of 377 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: the most famous people in American history at that point, 378 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: and was well on tape with all of this sort 379 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: of things. So do we we have some of the 380 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 1: tape on this and we thought we played for you. 381 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: But this standard is not a measure of how we 382 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: can evaluate the condition of our society. It cannot measure 383 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: the health of our children, the quality of our education, 384 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: the joy of their play, get the growth national product 385 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: that's not allowed, the health of our children and that 386 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: is unity of their education for the joy of their play. 387 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: Let us pledge that our generation of Americans will pay 388 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: any price, bear any burden, accept any challenge, and meet 389 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 1: any hardship to secure the blessings of prosperity and the 390 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: promise of opportunity for our children. We shall pay any price, 391 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: bear any burden. President John F. Kennedy, any hardship, apart 392 00:23:54,880 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: any friend, opposed any foe, you will sure the survival 393 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,479 Speaker 1: of the successive liberty liberty. And I started thinking as 394 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: I was coming over here, Why is it that Joe 395 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: Biden is the first in his family ever to go 396 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: to a university? Oh? Why am I? Yes, in a 397 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: thousand generations to be able to get the university? Why 398 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: is it that my wife, who's sitting out there in 399 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: the audience is the first in her family to ever 400 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: go to college. Why is Ganness the first woman in 401 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: her family in a thousand generations to be able to 402 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: get the university. No, it's not because they weren't as smart. 403 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: It's not because it didn't work as hard. It's because 404 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: they didn't have a platform upon which to stand. Does 405 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: anybody really think that they didn't get what we had 406 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: because they didn't have the talent or the strength, or 407 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 1: the endurance or the commitment. Of course not, it was 408 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: because there was no platform upon which they could stand. 409 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: And included in that cliff, I mean, he actually plagiarized 410 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 1: President Kennedy's inaugural address, which in the world of presidents 411 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: is one of the most famous inaugural addresses ever. And 412 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: yet there he is, is if And what boggles my 413 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: mind is he's saying this to audiences of Democrats, where 414 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: you can bet there's a healthy percentage of people in 415 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: the audience that remember this stuff or know it, or 416 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 1: they're somehow familiar with it. So the question I had is, 417 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: you know, that's just not smart to do. And now 418 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: you look around at all the government spending. You look 419 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: around at what's happening on the border wall, you look 420 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: around at the pullout from Afghanistan. I mean, on and 421 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: on and on goes this business, and you think, Wow, 422 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: we have a serious problem here with the president who's 423 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 1: just not you know, however ice or not nice he 424 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: might be, is just not on the ball here, and 425 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: that's a real problem. I would gently push back on 426 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: that and just say I know you're shocked. I don't 427 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: know that it's said he's not that smart. I will 428 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: go on the record and say I don't think he's smart, 429 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: but I also just don't think he cares because there 430 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: is no one to stop him. If you think about 431 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: the election in twenty twenty, he didn't campaign because he 432 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: didn't have to. He was paid for. They knew that 433 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,479 Speaker 1: they had all the money in the quaffers and they 434 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: were gonna do everything they could to get him in 435 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: that office. You know when he went and he let 436 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 1: out Britney Griner and not Paul Wheeland, why because he 437 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: knew he had the media and he had the administration 438 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: to back him up, and no one was going to 439 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: stop him. When he said he didn't want to bus 440 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: people of color into his neighborhoods because he didn't want 441 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: to turn his neighborhood into a racial jungle, it was 442 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: because he knew no one would stop him. When he 443 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: told a female reporter that she could sit down and 444 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: take it easy, because you know, there was a time 445 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: when they weren't even in that room with him. Nobody 446 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 1: said anything to him. And just like nobody said anything 447 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: until one person calls it out, such as yourself to 448 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: the media and marine down to her credit. At the time, yes, 449 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: when The New York Times still considered themselves to be 450 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: a paper of record that actually did things that mattered, right, 451 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: And when when that story was published, it created quite 452 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: a furre. And shortly thereafter, I mean, other people began 453 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: noticing things. And I think Leslie Stall from CBS had 454 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: looked into his law school correct, had the background the GPA. 455 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: How he finished, I mean, it's just like the story 456 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: the other day about the purple heart and Uncle Frank 457 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: and right, what are you talking about? But again, you 458 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: see it nowhere. Right, it's really unconsfortable. And I think 459 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: two to Ethan's point, you know, it's the difference between 460 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: a media of then a media of now. Oh definitely. 461 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 1: I mean you can't see anything now. If I had 462 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 1: discovered this in today's world and handed it over to 463 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: a reporter for the New York Times, it would never 464 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: see the light of d I would have been saying, 465 00:27:55,720 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: this is Russian disinformation from face That is exactly right. 466 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: And yeah, the media environment is just so totally different, 467 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: and it's not for the better, um all I can say. Also, 468 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: they destroy you. Yeah, I mean look at John Paul 469 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: mack Isaac, right, Yeah, guy owns a freaking repair shop 470 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: fixing computers and laptops, not bothering anybody thinks he does 471 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: the right thing, cools what he believes to be the 472 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: premier agency of law enforcement, right, and they destroy him, right? Why? Yeah, 473 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,479 Speaker 1: well this is this is what they do. And you know, 474 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: I'm I'm conscious of the fact that I'm sitting here 475 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: on the Sean Hannity Show and realizing that in the 476 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: course of history, conservatives began to wake up and God 477 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: bless our late friend Rush Limbaugh who did that show 478 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: and really began to set things on fire, and then 479 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: Sean and then Fox News and now it's Newsmax and 480 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: the Media Research Center, and I mean it's all over 481 00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: the Washington Times, etc. So on we go here. This 482 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: will be a great, great year, lots of challenges, and 483 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: I hope you'll be tuning into Sean, who will be 484 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: here every day once we get started again. And Merry 485 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: Christmas to you, and we will be right back after 486 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: for one more short segment. Thank you for joining me today. 487 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,959 Speaker 1: My name is Jeffrey Lord, and it has been a 488 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: very real honor to sit in for our friend Sean 489 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: Hannity today. Please follow me at real Jeffrey Lord and 490 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: listen to my podcast wherever podcasts are found, the Word 491 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: of the Lord and my website v Jeffrey Lord dot com. 492 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: I wish you a merry Christmas, a happy Hanukkah and 493 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: a happy new Year. God bless you all, and God 494 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: bless this nation. Good night, and thank you Jeffrey for 495 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,479 Speaker 1: filling it in for us today. We are so grateful 496 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: to have you. You have been a real patriot. Love 497 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: doing it