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Speaker 1: Absolutely Tommy FAM's listen Tommy Fam. He fights all winter

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Speaker 1: to fuck guys up, he said it.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into North Side Territory, your Cubs podcast hosted by

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Speaker 2: Foul Territory. I'm Sahade Sharma with my co host Patrick Mooney.

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Speaker 2: We cover the Cubs and today we have a guest

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Speaker 2: from the Athletic, John Greenberg, to talk about the White Sox.

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Speaker 3: John, Thanks for joining us. Okay, let's get right to it.

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Speaker 2: Where you've covered all Chicago sports, right, all Chicago sports.

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Speaker 3: You've covered a lot of messes in this city. Where

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Speaker 3: is this?

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Speaker 2: I mean there's been a few White Sox messes over

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Speaker 2: the past few years too, But where does this mess

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Speaker 2: right now rank among what you've witnessed.

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Speaker 1: Well, first, I want a little more enthusiastic with my intro.

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Speaker 3: Special guests.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, like I mean, get a little enthusiasm. I

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Speaker 1: mean I hired you just the Athletic when when it

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Speaker 2: But now, I mean, all right, lack of lack of

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Speaker 2: enthusiasm here. I'm not as pumped for cups of white

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Speaker 1: I know, I know, I remember we used to get

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Speaker 1: pumped for this, But yeah, where does this writ I

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Speaker 1: mean this is pretty bad. I think this is at

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Speaker 1: the bottom of for the White Sox for sure. And

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Speaker 1: I mean we've had a lot of messages, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean we had, you know, a guy retire because

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Speaker 1: his kid couldn't field grounders with the team. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: guy cut jerseys up before a game. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: had last year was terrible. This is the bottom though, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, because it's like every day it's the manager.

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Speaker 1: You're either making fun of the manager, the freaking TV

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Speaker 1: play by play guy. I mean, this is like and

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Speaker 1: they're fifteen forty five, they're thirty games under five hundred,

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Speaker 1: and listen, they weren't supposed to be good this year.

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Speaker 1: Last year is worse because they were actually supposed to

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Speaker 1: be Like, you know, they weren't picked to do very

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Speaker 1: well last year. But people they could have won, you know,

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Speaker 1: they could have won the Central Ale Central last years.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't impossible with the talent they had this year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Chris gets is pretty straightforward. Even though he

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Speaker 1: tried for a while to say they weren't rebuilding, he

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Speaker 1: eventually relented and I talked to him about that, and

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Speaker 1: he realized it was kind of stupid to say, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're not rebuilding when like you trade Dylan

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Speaker 3: But this is supposed to be a quicker turnaround. That's

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Speaker 3: why they hired Gets. It's a quick time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, I mean, like we're having Obviously we

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Speaker 1: can have fun with Jerry on that because he saw

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Speaker 1: he like totally torpedoed Gets from the beginning in terms

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Speaker 1: with that terrible introduction. Yeah, but I did think the

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Speaker 1: point he was making, and I've talked about this with

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Speaker 1: Gets too, is that I think Gets kind of told

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Speaker 1: so hiring me, you know, we could at least like

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean we can't keep making fun of Jerry,

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Speaker 1: because we should because he said so many crazy things

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Speaker 1: I do get the point now on the flip side,

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Speaker 1: if you want to know why Jerry is such a

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Speaker 1: you know, it's fine, But like why he is so

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Speaker 1: keep Pedro grifall for this year because you signed a

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Speaker 1: You know, Get Jerry should have said, all right, you

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Speaker 1: what a good owner does. Like they didn't make it's

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Speaker 4: You're Out, John, you had an awesome column up in

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Speaker 4: You had kind of teased this column idea to us

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Speaker 4: and not doubting your reporting shops or charms, but I

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Speaker 4: the genesis of that story, as well as this blossoming

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, it's a it's a relationship made in Weineka.

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Speaker 1: You know how hard it is you moved to the suburbs.

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Speaker 1: It's tough making guy friends like something to talk about.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember how I knew they. I think I

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Speaker 1: And when Gets took over, he said there were some

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Speaker 1: And like Gets at least could laugh about it because

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Speaker 2: So what They're just sitting in the seats somewhere, well,

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Speaker 1: The yeah, I don't know wherever the wive seats are

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Speaker 3: To me is that he will not be That would

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 4: I love that image in your calmn of like Jed

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Speaker 3: On the phone.

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Speaker 4: Because when we were all on Bellinger Watch in spring training,

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Speaker 1: But I was gonna say, Jed told me he walks

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Speaker 1: that doesn't really you got too many. I mean, let

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Speaker 1: me do the writing, you do, the the act you do,

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Speaker 1: the you worry about Nick Madrigal and where he's gone.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I did see Jed's kids the other day

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Speaker 2: at a travel game, because yeah, so I saw them

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Speaker 2: running around. Uh so apparently there's all sorts of GM's kids.

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Speaker 2: Did you give him any advice, like, you know, maybe

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Speaker 2: trade for reliever? I was like, how about the offense?

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Speaker 2: How funny would Bopeck be?

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Speaker 1: It a Wrigley because people would just be going ape

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Speaker 1: shit when he's like giving it, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: He's so wild, He's perfect for this unpredictable bullpen. He

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Speaker 1: well with the way the Cubs bullpen has been been going.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I wouldn't be. Like I did joke with

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Speaker 1: how's how it? Where's the Bailey Horn Matthew Thompson deal? Uh?

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Speaker 1: You know executed? But he basically said that was that

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Speaker 1: Though Gets did say he had some converse stations with

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Speaker 1: exactly the Kintana for Eloy and c.

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Speaker 2: Blockbuster Carter gets the Matt Thompson and Bailey Horn deal.

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Speaker 3: That's the puts on av Uh?

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Speaker 2: Is there is there any excuse for not winning two

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know the guy at all, but like

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Speaker 1: But remember he was gonna beat Remember he wanted to

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Speaker 1: Because who was he lost his ship, like you can

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Speaker 4: Maybe, uh, I think you know, I've never encountered Pedro Graffa.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's so concerned about that. They're also concerned

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Speaker 1: I've never seen a manager kick out his own players

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Speaker 3: It's amazing how much stuff has happened in Cup sucks.

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Speaker 2: Been some great games, but the off the field, like

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Speaker 1: It was completely out of nowhere. It was like I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't think of anyone else. I don't. I

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to at this point in uh my career.

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Speaker 1: You pronounce this? PAULA Young or Paul dejan or you young? Right,

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Speaker 1: FAM's great. Like I wish I talked to him. I

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Speaker 1: wish I like cared more to go to the White

433
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Speaker 1: Sox and talk to him more, because he's just a

434
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Speaker 1: content machine.

435
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Speaker 2: Yoh, I mean remember, I mean he's the one that

436
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,640
Speaker 2: slapped Chock Peterson like Trent loves Trent.

437
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 3: Trent Rosencrans are our.

438
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Speaker 2: Colleague at the Athletic who covers the Reds and all

439
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Speaker 2: sorts of baseball stuff. Is like, talk to him about

440
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 2: about Fam and he he'll talk your ear off because.

441
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Speaker 1: Jesse and our friend Jesse Rodgers loves Fam. I mean

442
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,160
Speaker 1: he's been talking to him forever, you know, covering him

443
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 1: when he does his national stuff. I mean, he's just great.

444
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Speaker 1: He's old. I love guys like that. I mean we

445
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 1: used to have guys like that with the Cubs. We

446
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 1: don't really have like Big Mouse anymore, do he? Is

447
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 1: there any guys in Big Mouse on the team anymore?

448
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Speaker 1: I mean they're.

449
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Speaker 5: Talking about it, not the yeah, like the you know

450
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Speaker 5: Reddy Well, Miguel Montero, Miguel Montero, big Z.

451
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Speaker 4: I mean, I think we'll see if the Cubs, you know,

452
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,239
Speaker 4: how the season plays out. But I don't know when

453
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Speaker 4: you're looking at how well Fam performs on the field

454
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Speaker 4: and kind of that edge he brings, like the Cubs

455
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Speaker 4: don't turn it around, that's going to be a talking

456
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Speaker 4: play them. Hey, I know, maybe this mix you know

457
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Speaker 4: something like you know, no one cares about your process

458
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 4: or your expected stats, and when you have a new

459
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 4: manager who has very strong opinions and is very insightful

460
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Speaker 4: about how things should be run.

461
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Speaker 1: And then if this team kind of.

462
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Speaker 4: Does something similar to last year, and whether or not

463
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Speaker 4: it's a dramatic collapse at the end, or if they

464
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Speaker 4: squeak into the playoffs with eighty four, Like I don't

465
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Speaker 4: think it's an unreasonable conversation to have of Like I

466
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Speaker 4: don't know you can clone Tommy fam or like how

467
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Speaker 4: that works, but a presence like that, I don't know when,

468
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Speaker 4: at least when they're struggling, how you can point to

469
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Speaker 4: that'd be like and.

470
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Speaker 3: Wonder Patrick, I'm pretty sure you were.

471
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you had to have been there when when they

472
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Speaker 2: signed John Lackey, Like there wasn't much else that THEO

473
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Speaker 2: said other than we lack edge we need Yeah, like

474
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Speaker 2: they wanted John Lackey for that. Yes, he's one World Series,

475
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Speaker 2: he has experienced all those good things.

476
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Speaker 3: That was great.

477
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Speaker 2: That was you know, I'm sure one A, one B

478
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 2: was this guy gets pissed off and like we'll, you know,

479
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 2: get on his teammates if they're not doing what they're

480
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 2: supposed to do and piss off the opposition sometimes too,

481
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 2: and that that seems to you know, that's something that

482
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Speaker 2: they lacked and that they wanted on that team.

483
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Speaker 4: I mean, imagine Lackey's reaction, like if say I just

484
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 4: dropped a fly ball like that like this defense, he

485
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 4: would be so entertaining that I wish we could make

486
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Speaker 4: that happen. But like, yeah, people would say that, like

487
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 4: you know, our infielders or some of them were like

488
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Speaker 4: scared of Lackey and my Keith feel very much enjoyed that.

489
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love to see Jed shake it up

490
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Speaker 1: with this team. It's kind of a kind of boring

491
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Speaker 1: club in some ways.

492
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Speaker 3: They were exciting for a couple of weeks there to start, but.

493
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Speaker 2: It was also not not realistic the way they were

494
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Speaker 2: importing in certain ways.

495
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Speaker 1: We got body body will say something?

496
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Speaker 3: Body?

497
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Speaker 1: When when will Body's been grained enough to start talking again.

498
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Speaker 2: He's a new man, Oh he is. But he's a

499
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 2: different person than he was he was like the old body.

500
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Speaker 3: Well, he's got a second chance, or whatever chance this is.

501
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 3: He's he's got another one. Uh, maybe maybe he'll.

502
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Speaker 2: Make Maybe he'll be the hero of the Cubs need

503
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Speaker 2: uh to defeat the White Sox if they need a

504
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Speaker 2: hero to defeat the White Sox.

505
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Speaker 3: I think that says a lot.

506
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Speaker 1: I had actually thought I had actually talked, you know,

507
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Speaker 1: because we've talked this before. But like I used to

508
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Speaker 1: work for Body's agents, Scott Bronstein, you know, I'm friends,

509
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: and I was like we were talking about I was like,

510
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: you should try to get Jed to trade Body to

511
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Speaker 1: the White Sox. They could use him.

512
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, is that a good thing? But you want

513
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Speaker 3: to be traded to the White Sox.

514
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Speaker 1: Well, it was when Body was like, I mean he

515
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: was marooned in Iowa, you know, like like he was

516
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Speaker 1: like I don't really understand, like how he's going to

517
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Speaker 1: get out of there, Like, yeah, they're off everyone except Body,

518
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: so like, yeah, I mean the White Sox technically the

519
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: major leagues.

520
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 2: I mean all it took was like months of every

521
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 2: other bench option struggling and just being like, Okay, I

522
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 2: need someone that can maybe put the ball in the

523
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 2: seats on occasion.

524
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Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. So we got Bodie back. Baby. I want

525
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: to see a Bodie jersey today.

526
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 2: I bet you'll see jose Valantine.

527
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Speaker 1: There's gonna be so muches. I like, how a J

528
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 1: highlights him on Twitter and you always do. Like if

529
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 1: you walk around a White Sox game, you'll see five

530
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: a js and like five Canaros.

531
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 3: Ever, what are the Cubs staples? Is Sosa staple much?

532
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 1: Because it's it's too old, you know what I mean?

533
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: Like Brian, you see a lot of Swanson's now, I've

534
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 1: seen some Morel's.

535
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 3: The other day I saw morel like outside, like out

536
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 3: in the wild, Like.

537
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't. I'm trying to think who else I've

538
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: seen lately. I did see a John Meylee one the

539
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: other day. Wow, nice Megan. It was the Dame Meghan

540
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: wrote or John Maylee story. I'm like, is that a

541
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: skid or something? Like? Who has a John Malee All

542
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:18,719
Speaker 1: Star Jersey?

543
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 3: I think it's he has a son.

544
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: That's yeah, like he's playing, Yeah, he's he's playing in college.

545
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 4: He was, he was, he was at Mount Carmel and

546
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 4: it was like, you know, I thought he was definitely

547
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 4: a college recruit, maybe a draft type guy.

548
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 3: I think he got hurt. I'm not sure how badly,

549
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 3: but he got hurt.

550
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 1: I think all the twenty sixteen guys, the ones you see,

551
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Speaker 1: you will see some d Lea's occasionally, you know, like

552
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: at some SO says, but they're they're kind of too

553
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 1: old and like they just I don't think enough people

554
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: really have anymore. You do see a couple of no

555
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: Mars every game. I haven't seen my I haven't seen

556
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: a Terrio this year, which is disappointed Miles Away. Yeah, yeah,

557
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: why I called it the FUCU Dome terio theory that

558
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: there was always one at the game based on the PCUS,

559
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: the PCU joke about Gene Hackman and yeah it was

560
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 1: a ten Hackman and saw another actor.

561
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Speaker 4: H I just said one more for you, John, What

562
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Speaker 4: do you got on c h S and you and

563
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 4: our boys? Scott Powers wrote about.

564
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: That Chosen Sports Networks.

565
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be very confusing. Where do you I

566
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 4: liked the press release because it was basically the exact

567
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 4: same quote that Crane Penny gave when they launched Marquee.

568
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 4: If we're doing this for our fans, we're gonna super

569
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 4: our fans, like as if the Cubs, as if the

570
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 4: White Sox, Blackhawks and Bulls like had not owned a

571
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 4: broadcast entity for essentially like twenty five to thirty forty years,

572
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 4: that they were like passively involved, Like no, they were,

573
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 4: they create did that, and so I'm just curious, like where,

574
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 4: I don't know, not a lot of time. You had

575
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 4: a really nice write up on it, Like what what

576
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 4: were your kind of takeaways?

577
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean we knew this is inevitable, and I

578
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: mean you worked it. You worked at Cable Town over there,

579
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: so you know. But like it was inevitable once the

580
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: Cubs left, and the fact that not just the Cubs leaving,

581
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: it's that because obviously those three are staying together, but

582
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: NBC wants out of the regional sports game. I mean

583
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: they've been deemphasizing it. They've been cutting costs there. You know,

584
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: for years, they've been you know, losing people. They have

585
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: no other real programming except the only programming they have

586
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: besides the games or and the post games or you know,

587
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: Bear's content, which they don't even have. Yeah, so like

588
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: you know, they have to have some Bear stuff to

589
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: get viewers. But like, yeah, it's been going this way

590
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: for a while, so we knew it. I would hope

591
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: that a lot of the people that work there are

592
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: going to are gonna catch on, you know. I guess

593
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: Marquee is gonna lose this their Stadium filler content I

594
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: would have. I mean I have to ask, but I

595
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: would assume that, right unless can they do both? I mean,

596
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: do we need do we really I need both to

597
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: be honest, you know. So yeah, it's give me a

598
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: new network. We'll see how they do with just getting it.

599
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: It's not really like a huge story till it's we

600
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Speaker 1: figure out if they can get on TV or not.

601
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: You know, just like with Marquee, happened to be during

602
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,719
Speaker 1: the pandemic, so it was a little we had more

603
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: important things, you know, like the New Guys. Some guy

604
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: from Stadium is running at Jason Coyle. I've heard, you know,

605
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: some some mixed reviews on that, so we'll see how

606
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: that goes. But yeah, I mean if I'm if I'm

607
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: a ausie, I'm asking for that. Uh that Charles Barkley money,

608
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: you know, to jump aboard, although he wants told it.

609
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see. Just don't listen to Frank's advice

610
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: on money. That's like Ozzie's take. Frank Tellson hold out,

611
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: maybe don't do it.

612
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 3: But yeah, outstanding.

613
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Speaker 4: I got to give a shout out to its extremely

614
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Speaker 4: good and plugged in and like it's not easy the

615
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 4: job that he'd like Ozzie. You know, Ozzi is a legend,

616
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,479
Speaker 4: you know, but like Chuck kind of like Ernie Johnson

617
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 4: does a really good job.

618
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Speaker 1: It was he really found his footing, you know, he

619
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: has so many things there, whether it's the sideline stuff

620
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: or the hosting or whatever reporting. He's really found his

621
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: footing on that show with Ozzie, and like, you're right,

622
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: it is like Ernie Johnson and the fact that they

623
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: can make fun of each other, like it's just it's

624
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: a lot like inside the NBA where they make fun

625
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: of each other. Like, so it's a good show. I

626
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: hope they make Chuck. I hope they do right by Chuck,

627
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: you're right and everyone else, you know. I hope they

628
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: bring some people back that they let go that were

629
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,719
Speaker 1: really good on that station. Yeah, but we'll see if

630
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: they can get the you know, there's that over the

631
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: air stuff they're doing, but like that's people need stuff

632
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: on there. I mean, most people that are watching TV

633
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: and watching their cable package or so where they're going

634
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: to where they stream it through whatever service they use.

635
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: So that's that's really the key. Hopefully John Shipman they

636
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: hire him and give him some good money because he's

637
00:31:54,160 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: kind of runs their content. Now. Yeah, I mean I

638
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: think it like if you have to write something on

639
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: it because like you, I mean, you work their moon.

640
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: So it was a good crew of people. It They

641
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: didn't have an easy job all the time because there

642
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: were some teams that really meddled and like you know,

643
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: the stories I would hear about, like drin Blackhawks stuff

644
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: with like John McDonough yelling at people and like you know,

645
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: you had Crane fighting with probably Ryan. You know, like

646
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: there was a lot of weird stuff like they're fighting

647
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Speaker 1: on who you know, airtime and how much stuff each

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Speaker 1: all four. But yeah, yeah, I don't know who's gonna

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Speaker 1: like all. I mean, the Blackhawks are a draw because

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Speaker 1: of Bdard and hockey fans, but like Bulls and White Socks,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just brutal product.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that'll be for both the Cubs and

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Speaker 4: White Socks. I think that'd be a big story moving

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Speaker 4: forward of just how what that does for budgets and

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Speaker 4: the product and how they figure this out. And I

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Speaker 4: think as well beyond like you know their control, you know,

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Speaker 4: like changing viewer habits, and like what happens at the

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Speaker 4: league level with MLB and whether they could do like

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Speaker 4: a Cubs Netflix type thing without black Hawks and local restrictions.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's going to be like when there's

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Speaker 4: a lockout or a strike in a couple of years.

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Speaker 4: Like I think the TV stuff is going to be

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Speaker 4: a big part of I think teams are already thinking

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Speaker 4: in those terms.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you're right, and like, yeah, we'll see how

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Speaker 1: what happens with the league wide, the way the leagues

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Speaker 1: run it, see if they run in the ground or not.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, now we're getting depressing with lockout talk

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Speaker 2: and then journalism going into the tubes with everyone losing jobs.

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Speaker 3: So perfect time to wrap it up on a low

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Speaker 3: note there.

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Speaker 2: But I guess that's how our White Sox podcast, the

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Speaker 2: White White Sox part of the podcast should add on

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Speaker 2: a low note. John, thanks for joining us. Make sure

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Speaker 2: everyone reads John's piece on Chris Getz and Jed Hoyer's

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Speaker 2: burgeoning friendship. You can read Patrick in my work on

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Speaker 2: the athletic as well. This is Joe. Yeah, thank you,

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Speaker 2: thank you. That was most of Patrick did the did

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Speaker 2: most of the legwork on that. That was a great

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Speaker 2: job by Patrick organizing as usual and making sure that

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Speaker 2: that came out well. Thanks for listening everyone, This is

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Speaker 2: north Side Territory. Make sure you rate and review, subscribe

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Speaker 2: all that good stuff read our work at the Athletic.

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