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Speaker 2: Yes, I do, and and and I feel for Iverson

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Speaker 2: that they had to meet us in the finals. But

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Speaker 2: it wasn't his fault. It was the kim bab my Tumbo.

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Speaker 1: Saw when when Tumbo had to do with this.

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Speaker 2: My uncle, my mother's brother, he liked to read the

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Speaker 2: you heard what what Tumbo said? He already had that highlighted.

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Speaker 2: I'm the defensive player of the year. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: play shaking one on one. Shack is okay, but see, hey,

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Speaker 2: okay players is what Shack is an okay player? Also,

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Speaker 2: now I can't even finish my mother in Cyreal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I did a pig big pull me to pin.

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Speaker 2: I said a.

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Speaker 3: Pig, big big sang you the cat. I a pig

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Speaker 3: big big pull me to pay. I do a pig

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Speaker 3: big big, sing you the cat. I need a pig,

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Speaker 3: big big big say it again, I do a big.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the Big podcast with Shack, where we always

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Speaker 4: do it big.

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Speaker 2: What's up brother? How you doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing pretty good. I can't complain.

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Speaker 2: Thanks good, thank you, Thanks for coming. Look, I know

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Speaker 2: you're a basketball fan. I know everybody's been talking about it.

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Speaker 2: Damn is eighty three. Give me your honest opinion on

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Speaker 2: I want to hear it from.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to take away his eighty three. You

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Speaker 5: It didn't look like Kobe's eighty three. I mean, but

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Speaker 5: people hated on his eighty three. He accomplished it. No

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Speaker 2: Right. People say he was chasing it? Do you do

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Speaker 1: You got sixty ain't you supposed to chase the hunting?

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Speaker 2: Like I'm I'm looking at most of the comments, and

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Speaker 5: I'm totally convinced nine times at Attendant people in the

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Speaker 5: Anybody that says know that they want to bash him

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Speaker 1: There's nobody in the team that's like, take it back

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Speaker 4: I mean, did either of you get the chance to

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Speaker 1: He got five twenty? Sometimes was he like, what's going on?

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Speaker 4: If somebody were to do it different, or if it

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Speaker 1: That's playing right man?

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Speaker 2: Name you just said, Curry, because because because he's gonna

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Speaker 1: And twos at all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just at all threes.

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Speaker 1: That's the Curry.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll give it to We got a good support cast.

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Speaker 1: I always pray we got a chance to go all

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Speaker 2: No, I don't need no prayers, my brother, like you.

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Speaker 5: and I just gotta I gotta believe it to guard now.

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Speaker 2: I think the kids called Anthony Towns.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that's it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm telling you, I mean for us to get there.

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Speaker 2: He's a guy that has the potential to be that.

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Speaker 2: And like when I like, like I always tell people,

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Speaker 5: So that that definitely would help Brunson get even more

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Speaker 4: Kick would make your all time next starting five.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll probably be like you and Brunson Starks.

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Speaker 2: Your partner's got a problem with that list already. All right,

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Speaker 2: hold on, hold on brusting you and the stars. Okay,

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Speaker 2: who else?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I just did his name just forgetting.

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Speaker 2: Hold on you going brun over Mark Jackson.

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Speaker 5: I was going to add Mark Jackson, but Mark Jackson

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Speaker 5: From off the Knicks got so many players that I

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Speaker 5: You know you my god to he coaches that he

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Speaker 2: He messed five laps.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I'm surprised Melo didn't make it.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I forgot he played for the Knicks and he

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Speaker 2: A wrong decision. So you think the Knicks playing at

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Speaker 4: Who do you have?

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Speaker 4: Florida plus one twenty five?

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Speaker 2: My baby goes to Florida.

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Speaker 5: Social media is a great way for you to gain

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00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:17,080
Speaker 5: business and for YouTube market and promotional business. And that's

443
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,720
Speaker 5: what I use it for. Everybody has their own elaborate

444
00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,359
Speaker 5: ways and schemes that they use social media platforms for.

445
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 5: I use it for music, I use it for my content.

446
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,959
Speaker 5: I use it pretty much for everything I got going on.

447
00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,719
Speaker 5: I use it as a big promo place for everything

448
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,040
Speaker 5: I got going on, and occasionally I get caught up

449
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,160
Speaker 5: in social media because there's a lot on there, but

450
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,680
Speaker 5: for the most part I try to use it, which

451
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,200
Speaker 5: is for and stay out of it.

452
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 4: It's a huge marketing tool. I think that's a supermarketing Yeah,

453
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,240
Speaker 4: that's the biggest thing. You know. There's pros and cons

454
00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:50,159
Speaker 4: to everything.

455
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 5: But one thing I can say is that social media

456
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,360
Speaker 5: is there for entertainment. So whatever's going on today, it's

457
00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,239
Speaker 5: not going to last past three days from now. So

458
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 5: if you feel that social media is working against you,

459
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 5: it's never working against you. You got to figure out

460
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,919
Speaker 5: how to make it work for you, even when it

461
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 5: is working against you, because now you have millions of

462
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 5: eyes on you, and you get to show on what

463
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 5: you got, you know what I mean, Like somebody's going

464
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,640
Speaker 5: to feed into it, somebody bad talking about you, somebody's

465
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,239
Speaker 5: going to come to your page to figure out why

466
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 5: they're talking bad about you.

467
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 4: And you can make money off of that too.

468
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:26,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

469
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 4: That's the best part about it, is like you have

470
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 4: all those haters coming at you.

471
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 5: In your comments since sonnew I put a real up

472
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 5: and these haters just want to hate. Now they take

473
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,879
Speaker 5: my really three million views and they're like I just

474
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 5: got to pay you off for three million views for

475
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 5: all of hate.

476
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,160
Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate it.

477
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 2: So don't you think you should make them hate? Mark?

478
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,679
Speaker 5: Of course I encourage to hate. I use all my

479
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 5: hate as rocket fuel. I got shit, I got places

480
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 5: to go.

481
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 2: You're in a unique place for music. What I mean

482
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,199
Speaker 2: by that is, I know as a young MC you

483
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 2: used to look at the people above you, but now,

484
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 2: being an elder statesment, you still looking at the people

485
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 2: above you.

486
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,880
Speaker 1: It's the only god above me. I feel it's only

487
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:06,439
Speaker 1: got above me.

488
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 5: There were a few people that I used to admire

489
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 5: in this game, and it's fewer now.

490
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

491
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 2: But you look at the young guys. Okay, it's hot,

492
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:14,880
Speaker 2: but he had as good as let me show.

493
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I never do.

494
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 5: I never was that person because from the games perspectives

495
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 5: that I've I've only gotten better late in my years

496
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 5: than how I started. But for me, I've always been

497
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 5: the one to help the younger generation, especially in New

498
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 5: York City. I've helped giving so many people opportunities, advice, uh,

499
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 5: this everything like that.

500
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Speaker 1: I love the younger generation. Anybody tell you like that?

501
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? That's what I build in

502
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 1: the facility.

503
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 5: I got a whole facility right now in New York

504
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 5: City called the IFC, thirty thousand square.

505
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 1: Feet of community creation space.

506
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 5: We got streaming space in there, we got studios in there,

507
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 5: we got podcasts spacing there. We got spaces to build sets.

508
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 5: We have a lounge in there. We got a bar

509
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 5: in there, photo shoot area, and.

510
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 2: There we.

511
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 5: Could put up we can make the bar, hook a

512
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 5: lamps for you. I got the hookah lady come on

513
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 5: Wednesdays when we feel the show with fab in them.

514
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 5: So yeah, still putting it together, but it's starting to

515
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 5: look good.

516
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 1: Like that.

517
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 4: You said that there's a few people who you looked

518
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 4: up to, and even if you are now, I'm curious

519
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 4: to know who are those few people that you admire today?

520
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 5: Who are the few people who admired today? I don't

521
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 5: want to talk about it because the media turns everything around,

522
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And when we get off,

523
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 5: I'll tell you though personally like that, because you did.

524
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 5: I ain't got time to be placid on the media

525
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 5: for who I admire no matter how the media looks

526
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 5: at them, you know what I mean.

527
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,159
Speaker 2: So you had two Chains and other artists in your

528
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 2: podcastte me boom. Why something about you, man, Michael Pone?

529
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 5: You now I'm inviting you now.

530
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 2: I've been on you, you.

531
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: Know me for a long time, and I can't.

532
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,199
Speaker 5: I want to say thank you to your face for

533
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 5: the Reebok Alley And that was something that was worth

534
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 5: more than money to me for you to be able

535
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 5: to give me the alleup and I was able to

536
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 5: help so many kids in high schools off of that,

537
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,239
Speaker 5: Like that meant everything to me, you know what I mean.

538
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 5: So I just want to thank you personally, remember, because

539
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 5: I don't think people understand the magnitude of the things

540
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 5: that you do for others, you know what I mean.

541
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: They don't.

542
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 5: You don't talk about it, but I see and I watch,

543
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 5: and I know what you did for me. So I

544
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 5: just want to say I appreciate you, and I know

545
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 5: the kids that got to receive the benefits of the

546
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 5: program appreciate you too.

547
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 2: Do you know Mama Jones cursed me out this summer.

548
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 1: She may have it sounds like my mom's She may have.

549
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 1: She ain't come to the house Shire for food.

550
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 2: No, not yet. Because I was I'm shooting the show

551
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 2: Graves in and I was somewhere in New York and

552
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 2: there was a whole bunch of people out there, and

553
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 2: she going shack shack and is Jim Jones, Mama, Oh,

554
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 2: Mama Jones. I'm sorry, you heard me colored like Mama Jones,

555
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I'm like, come over here, boy, give me

556
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 2: a hood. But she was cool.

557
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: My mom is a lady from the South Bronx. She

558
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:06,479
Speaker 1: was different.

559
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 2: Chat you don't hear me?

560
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, I magine how many times I got cursed offf

561
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 5: I ain't here her man, that's what my mom's that of.

562
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 4: Mommy, how is your mom doing? I know her on

563
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 4: the show.

564
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 5: She was working on opening her or she just opened

565
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 5: up a restaurant in Philly. She's always got her hands

566
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 5: of something. She got this not for profit organization. I

567
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 5: believe it's for battered women, trying to help them get

568
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 5: back into the the world.

569
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 1: And stuff like that. So she's a Karen Lady.

570
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 5: Every Sunday she cooks for everybody that wants to come

571
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 5: to the house.

572
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: She calls her soulful Sunday. This is my mom.

573
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 5: She has a big heart and she has a great

574
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 5: energy about her.

575
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 2: You know, So what's next? Albums, movies?

576
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 5: Everything, Well, got some albums are about to do, but

577
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 5: currently I've been really focused on the building and starting

578
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 5: to film these shows.

579
00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: We got five shows up.

580
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 2: And running right now.

581
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 5: Now, hopefully by the next year I have about fifty

582
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 5: shows running out the building them. I would like to

583
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 5: build something like bt M TV, but in the new

584
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 5: wave of things that's going on because of all the

585
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 5: social media, live streaming, so I'm integrating everything that these

586
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 5: kids love into a new type of network.

587
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 2: You think I'll ever get back to the way it

588
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 2: was for artists. I mean, look, selling albums to get

589
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 2: a little bit of chain, but these streaming numbers like this,

590
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 2: you don't get no money from streaming.

591
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,360
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say that. I would

592
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: say this.

593
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 5: I would say that artists need to negotiate their deals

594
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 5: a little bit better. And what you see on the

595
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 5: front and streaming might not be what you see on

596
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 5: the backside of streaming.

597
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 2: I know, but I missed the days of going in

598
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 2: the store getting it.

599
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 1: Like no, I missed that.

600
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 5: Now that the Hunt were talking about that just yesterday,

601
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 5: the Hunt of going to get that CD that everybody

602
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 5: needs to look at the booklet to look it.

603
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 2: Okay, once you start to cut. Once you picked the

604
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 2: CD up, you already know record label getting their cut

605
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 2: and he getting their cut. Now with these streams, like

606
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 2: like to me, when when I hear somebody's chick I

607
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 2: streamed the million times, like, oh they went platinum, but

608
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: you're only getting two thousand dollars.

609
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 5: This is a playfer of platforms that people will get

610
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 5: paid from. And remember these kids get monthly money residuals,

611
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 5: so I get a pretty good monthly check off for music.

612
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 5: So I don't know if they explain to you everything.

613
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 5: So some people using it like their retirement front. Some

614
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 5: people getting seventy eighty thousand dollars a month and every

615
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 5: month for.

616
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 2: The I know, but you had hits.

617
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I get a pretty good amount of money

618
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 5: every month off my heads, and I have publishing checks

619
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 5: that come four times a year, and I have other

620
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 5: things that I've gotten with these hits that I've done

621
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 5: because I was able.

622
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: I was blessed to be able.

623
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 5: To come out before all of this crazy stuff start

624
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 5: to happen.

625
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: But I'm manipulate the streaming like nobody else.

626
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: And do I.

627
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 5: Miss the law of the old school game, Yes, but

628
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 5: it's not the same and while I'm in this game,

629
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 5: I got to adapt and be able to stay at

630
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 5: the forefront of what's going on, and that's how we

631
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 5: make our money. But the kids didn't get to witness that,

632
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 5: so it doesn't feel like they're missing anything. The only

633
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 5: people that feel like it is missing something is us

634
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,719
Speaker 5: because we've been there before, and we can make the

635
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 5: similarities between or whatever between the streaming and the old

636
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 5: way of people used to get The kids they never

637
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 5: had the luxury of doing that, so they could give

638
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 5: two about it, you.

639
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 2: Know what I mean.

640
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 1: We're the only ones.

641
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 5: The older generation is the only one that's complaining about

642
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 5: these streams. If you ever noticed, if you ever.

643
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 4: Noticed, speaking of your heads, we Fly High. It is

644
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 4: obviously one of your most well known songs. I'm curious

645
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 4: to know. Did any NBA players hit you up because

646
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 4: they liked that song so much?

647
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 5: Now here's the funny part of We Fly High. All

648
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 5: NBA players love the record. When I try to get

649
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 5: the record to be part of the NBA's system, maybe

650
00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 5: as an anthem, I believe David Stern was still there,

651
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 5: I believe, and they told me that the NBA does

652
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 5: not encourage hip hop, or does not do business with

653
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 5: hip hop at the time.

654
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: And now you look.

655
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 2: Back, now I'm looking.

656
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: I didn't. I hadn't listened, you know.

657
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:16,959
Speaker 5: And I was so hurt because I was like, yo, bro,

658
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 5: the whole NBA listen to I thy college I mean

659
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 5: college locker room, just this. No, there's no sports team

660
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 5: that's not listening to this right now. And they dubbed me.

661
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 5: But I will shout out to that. And I love

662
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 5: the NBA, but the shouts to the NFL and shouts

663
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 5: to straight Hand because when straight hand, straight Hand starts

664
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 5: sacking people on Monday Night Football and get up and

665
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 5: doing the ball and dance, and then all the giants

666
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 5: start getting up and doing the ball and dance, it

667
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 5: took the record's Monday Night Football the biggest day on TV.

668
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: That took the record to it.

669
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 5: And then they started inviting me to the games and

670
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 5: back them in the locker room like I wanted the

671
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 5: Knicks to do that.

672
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: I was so hurt that I couldn't get that off

673
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: with the next but I still love the name.

674
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: When you created, did it just happened because you heard

675
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 2: the beat on it or something that.

676
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 5: Happened because my back was against the wall. I did

677
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 5: a record with the Franchise Boys. That same record was

678
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 5: the record I had with Franchise Boys, and my label

679
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,959
Speaker 5: was pressuring me to do a single because we had

680
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 5: deadlines to make, and I.

681
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: Was like, Yo, pull our record up.

682
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 5: Take the Franchise childs, the Franchise Boys, take the Franchise

683
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 5: bolls off of it, and one of my little mans

684
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 5: from the hood. I'm like, Yo, call your baby mom.

685
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 5: I want to sing part of this hooking and'll start

686
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 5: rearranging the song. I just saw drop Down Get Your

687
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 5: Eagle On with Puffy and Nelly on the on the

688
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 5: video and that, so I was like, Yo, we gotta

689
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 5: get the girl in. It just kind of came together

690
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 5: with my back against the wall, and then I had

691
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 5: no idea it was going to be what it was.

692
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 5: It was just like me trying to get a record

693
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 5: on a good temple beat that I could give to

694
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 5: the label, like we can use this for the radio.

695
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 4: And it was the Have you ever felt like, you know,

696
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 4: like in that moment when you're done recording a song

697
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 4: that it's going to.

698
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 5: Be a hit, You would think, you know, sometimes it

699
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 5: happened like that. Balling wasn't the one that I knew

700
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 5: it was a hit. I mean, Balling wasn't the record

701
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 5: that I wanted to put out, as as as my.

702
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 4: First record, What was the one that you wanted to

703
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 4: put out your first Remember?

704
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: What was the first?

705
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 5: I think it was like repping time, or maybe it

706
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 5: was like putting a tail on a donkey, wanting records

707
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 5: that had on that. But Flex start up DJ Flex

708
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 5: started playing Balling and take it to a whole other

709
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 5: status fare and then it started connecting, like you say, momentum,

710
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 5: The snowball effects started happening, and it was out of

711
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 5: my hands. It was just going, I'm.

712
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 2: Gonna ask you a question. I don't want you to

713
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,959
Speaker 2: elaborate because it may be a touchy subject, so just

714
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 2: be yes or no. Will ever be a reunion? As

715
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: a fan, I would like to see that. I'm always

716
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: over for a reunion, Yes or no. My brother.

717
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 5: Up to me, Yes, but I'm just me, Yeah, you did,

718
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 5: No matter what goes on, you did, Because my my

719
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 5: my thing is I know it's two sides that this

720
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 5: is my personal and it's something that we built, you

721
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 5: know what I mean. And if the money is right,

722
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 5: I get on stage with anybody, I might want to

723
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 5: fight you after stage, but I get on stage and

724
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 5: the people are gonna look like it and they're gonna

725
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 5: love it.

726
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: It might hog you on stage, but were on stage

727
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: and at the team with you know what I mean?

728
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 4: Have any of those conversations happened there?

729
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 5: I don't think people want to converse with me right now.

730
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 5: But so it's the it's always way to get things

731
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 5: done if it becomes that type of business. I don't

732
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 5: believe anybody's that hard up about not making no good money.

733
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 5: I mean, we built the brand that if somebody did

734
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 5: come to us to do something they know is going

735
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 5: to be a pretty penny, they got to pay. And

736
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Speaker 5: I don't think I think everybody like pretty pennies, you

737
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Speaker 5: know what I mean?

738
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763
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764
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768
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769
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770
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Speaker 2: pound law five to two nine from yourself. This is

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Speaker 2: a paid advertisement. When it comes to certain music that

792
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 2: we grew up on, the music that you created, this

793
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 2: new music. Where you a love or a hater. I'm

794
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 2: a lover like you like some of the I love

795
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 2: some of the new stuff. I mean, I love some

796
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 2: of the new stuff. I don't love all of the

797
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 2: new stuff. I'm with you on that.

798
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 5: I mean, I can say that, but I love some

799
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 5: of the new stuff. And there are some artists that

800
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 5: give me that nostalgic feeling in today's gay very few,

801
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. But you know, we listened

802
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 5: to We listen to music way different than than the

803
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 5: new kids. I mean, the things that satisfy us. It's

804
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 5: way different. But then again, we had our time. And

805
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 5: that's why I want people to know, like, yeah, well

806
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 5: we had our time. It's no really critiquing the new

807
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 5: music because it's not new music, it's their music.

808
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: We had our music. You listen to beats, lyrics, me,

809
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: I listen to lyrics more than I listen to beats.

810
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 2: He gotta be beats for me first.

811
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 1: I mean, that's how I am. I mean, a good beat,

812
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: a great record is a great record.

813
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 5: But I'm from New York, so we always trying to

814
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 5: listen to somebody's got that flow. His cadence is right,

815
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 5: he's spitting crazy, you know what I mean.

816
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: And then the.

817
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: Beat is gonna make it more crazy.

818
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 5: But for you to get respect in the New York

819
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 5: artist eyes, you better be saying some sh and try

820
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 5: to disguise it with the beat. We don't want to hit,

821
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 5: We don't listen, don't do that. And then they all

822
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 5: records that did sound good no matter what it is.

823
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 5: It don't even got to be just. He could say

824
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 5: anything and that if it's good, it's good, you know

825
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 5: what I mean.

826
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 4: So then what's your take on the mumble rapper generation?

827
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: Mumble rap? I like some of that too. Some of

828
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: it is good.

829
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 5: Some of it they mumbling, But there's people that understand

830
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 5: the mumble rap like and I know real preference. I

831
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 5: like what I like, and I don't try to discredit

832
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 5: anybody for making any money. Because there was a place

833
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 5: where people was listening into dip setting in genes, like

834
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 5: what the is he really rapping about?

835
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

836
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:09,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel you all right? Last question the greatest

837
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 2: athlete them see ever?

838
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 5: My status, my status Now, I'm gonna give it to

839
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 5: you a big fella. You know, since fool snickings and I

840
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 5: don't think I don't think these know what fool snickings is.

841
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: I was.

842
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 5: I was dead for that. You heard, Shocked Diesel fool snickers.

843
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 5: Go look it up for you youngsters heard. I want

844
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 5: to know because you don't want to know Shack is

845
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 5: talk about the fool snickings.

846
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 2: You heard.

847
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 5: That's all I'm gonna say. It get deeper, but I

848
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 5: can't say this. You can wrap my brother. I've heard

849
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 5: you on numerous records. After you get used to the shot,

850
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 5: he's a basketball player, and then you start to listen

851
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 5: Shock got some bars though, like.

852
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 2: But you know what, people don't understand. I take this seriously,

853
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 2: you know me in I have to prove myself right.

854
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 2: But when I hear all that, oh he's this and

855
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 2: he's close the shot, I just go on and last

856
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 2: lay out twenty. I was listening one of my old records.

857
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: The other day, my uncle Jerome be like you spit

858
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: that boy, but you be having fun when you be

859
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 2: in that booth.

860
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: Doctor be collected collecting.

861
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,439
Speaker 5: I'm telling you you've been around some real spittters. Yeah

862
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 5: wow Bee the guns and all of them really get

863
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 5: busy like that, U Tarik he was around. You was

864
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 5: around and when really wrapping from New York guys before

865
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 5: any of this, like you, you had to have some

866
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 5: balls and it rubs off on you. So if you

867
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 5: have any bit of a float, which you obviously had,

868
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 5: now you're around some ill rappers, all of that iron sharpers, iron.

869
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 2: You know. Crazy. They never let me let up in

870
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 2: the studio for about two three hours. Eric Simmon and

871
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 2: played rap man from my hood. He's like, nah, nah

872
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: that do it again? Do it?

873
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 5: So?

874
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 2: Like I, like you said, I've been a biggie.

875
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: How was the biggie Booby big?

876
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 2: It was different? So I sent him the beat. He

877
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 2: said he liked it. So I had the studio in

878
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 2: my house, so I was I was writing, being my engineer.

879
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: I don't like that, I go back. I don't like

880
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,479
Speaker 2: that I did. I did the record probably for about

881
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 2: seven times. So then I got one that I liked

882
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 2: the one that you hear. I was nervous because you know,

883
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 2: for me, it wasn't about being being a rapper. It's

884
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 2: about rapping with my favorite artists. The big get to

885
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: the house, I go in the studio. I'm shaking it.

886
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,240
Speaker 2: I play it so big. It's like this as ego.

887
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 2: That's tight, big dog. Now I'm happy to I'm like,

888
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 2: for real, He's all, man, I don't need to do it.

889
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 2: Was like, no, I don't even do it over So

890
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 2: now I don't like to bother y'all. I say, hey, man,

891
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 2: I'm going to the house. This my engineer. You hit

892
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 2: the button whenever you get done, just let me know.

893
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm ready now, look what you mean ready now,

894
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 2: and then went in there like I ain't never seen

895
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 2: that before. In one take he killed it, but it

896
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 2: was it was super vulgar, and I had to hit

897
00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 2: the button. I was like, and I was like, He's like, no, no,

898
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 2: be right for the kids. For the kids. So then

899
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 2: he spit the other world. I'm the only one with

900
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: that other vocal purse, and I'll never put it out

901
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 2: out of respect for his things. I don't want to

902
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: think i' dropping. But he when I tell you that

903
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 2: was saying. And then so then after that, I take

904
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: ship to about five minutes were in the house, were

905
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 2: eating cake, hanging out, and then the next day him

906
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 2: and Seas tried to get on the up seed almost

907
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 2: drowned him and a little seed to get the water.

908
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 5: You yeah, yeah, I got one more question.

909
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 1: Who was.

910
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 5: The illest one on the court that you see and

911
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 5: play out of Joan Iverson and Kobe.

912
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 2: So it's different. I don't know if you felt this

913
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 2: way and rapped like seeing somebody and then washing them perform.

914
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 2: But in high school Michael was like ah, but then

915
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: when you're playing with him, like this one is really

916
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 2: like that? No, he was, really he was. He was.

917
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 2: He was really like that. Kobe came in with the mentality,

918
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 2: but he didn't have it right. So I used to

919
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 2: beat him up all the time. We used to beat

920
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 2: him out. If he don't realize his first two years

921
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 2: he didn't get a lot of playing time and the

922
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 2: coach we had didn't didn't play all that one like

923
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 2: he was sitting down on a bench, but he just

924
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 2: kept working, kept working. Then he developed that I'm not

925
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,959
Speaker 2: familiar with with With Mike's first couple years but it's

926
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 2: just different. Lebron as a bigger Magic Johnson than me.

927
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 2: The game is different. And you know, you made a

928
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 2: good point about when we all had our time. I

929
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 2: hate when they try to compare generation, but they asked

930
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: me the question on the time, and I'm always giving

931
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 2: the same answer. Mike is the greatest of all time

932
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 2: because of how he played, how he dominated, and he

933
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,959
Speaker 2: never lost in the finals. So a lot of people

934
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 2: going to see this, like you said, and oh, he

935
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: doing this and he do that. I played with Kobe,

936
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 2: I know what the killer he was. But to me

937
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 2: as a kid and going against him, then being the

938
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: only guy to beat him in the playoffs, for him

939
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 2: to retire after three and then come back and get

940
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 2: through it, Yeah, he was a different animal.

941
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: Would you just say I was one of the best guards.

942
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 2: Yes, I do. And I feel for Iverson that they

943
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 2: had to meet us in the finals. But it wasn't

944
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 2: his fault. It was the Kim bab my Tumbo saw.

945
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: What when Tumbo had to do with this, I take

946
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 1: it as a.

947
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 2: Sound of disrespect if you don't double team me. So

948
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 2: my uncle, my mother's brother, he's one of the most

949
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 2: smartest guys. I know he liked to read the paper

950
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: because I don't like to read the paper. He liked

951
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: to read the paper. And then he came in one day.

952
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 2: I'm in that eating cereal and he was like, you

953
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 2: heard what what Tumbo said? I said no, he said

954
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: he gonna play you one on one? Said he didn't

955
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 2: say that. He already had that highlighted at eight thirty

956
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: to one. Well he needs to see this. Yeah, so

957
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: I'm looking at it. I'm the defensive player of the year.

958
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 2: I'm going to play shaking one on one. Shack is

959
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 2: a okay to see, Hey, okay players? Is what Shack

960
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 2: is an okay player? Also, now I can't even finish

961
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 2: my mother cereal. So I get on the internet at

962
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 2: the time and I learned how to say I'm a

963
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: busher swy heally, but I didn't quite get it right.

964
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 4: What did it translate to?

965
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 2: I didn't say it right. I didn't say right. But

966
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: but so as a shot block, you got taken to

967
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: his face, so you're going to see a lot of

968
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: clips on me elbow, in the face. I had to

969
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 2: do that on purpose to let him know I'm coming. Oh,

970
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 2: I'm coming. So like the first player game, once I

971
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 2: bowled him and he backed up. I knew I had him.

972
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 2: So then after the first game they beat us, but

973
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: I still had I had a lot of point, he

974
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 2: had a lot of bandages, and he walking down the

975
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 2: hallway with his kids. I'm glad I had Uncle Jerom

976
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 2: with me. Girsaid, don't let them soften you up. Don't

977
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 2: live stuff. He said, shack while you doing me like

978
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 2: that in front of the kids. In front of the kids.

979
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 2: So yeah, so sorry. After that, I know I had him,

980
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 2: but I was already mad from them saying we can't

981
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 2: get another But listen, I love Ai. AI is one

982
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 2: of the one of the greatest players ever was, and

983
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,760
Speaker 2: it's unfortunate that we live in a world where people

984
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 2: judge you based on your championship. He just didn't. He

985
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 2: just didn't have the right team.

986
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was that dude was the truth. He was

987
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 5: a coach icon for the kids in the black community,

988
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 5: like like Jordan was different than Ai, you know what

989
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 5: I mean, because jay'all was so close and relatable to

990
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 5: every little hood.

991
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: He started coming to the.

992
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 5: Game with the jury, with the braids, with the baggy

993
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 5: and he was killing So then it was like every

994
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 5: bad lotok in the hood that knew how to play

995
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 5: ball was like IAmA Hovison did he bopp And I'm

996
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 5: gonna get on this court and.

997
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: Practice what we're talking about.

998
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 5: Practice for like what you talking about, like said Chuck Man,

999
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 5: that's one of my favorite players.

1000
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 2: Man, Well thanks for coming, brother, and said hello, and

1001
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: I appreciate you. Bro. You know, if we ever anything

1002
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 2: from me on my phone call.

1003
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: I got a gift for you.

1004
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 2: I didn't know.

1005
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 5: I didn't know that I would have brought you a

1006
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 5: gift to but they didn't let me know. We would

1007
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 5: have a lovely hostess.

1008
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: The construction diplomat jacket. I don't know who's that.

1009
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 5: If it's gonna fit, I mean I got we got

1010
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 5: the biggest we got the biggest size we could get.

1011
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 2: You're a little bit bigger and per Now I gotta

1012
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 2: pay you back.

1013
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: So now you gotta take me back.

1014
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 2: No, man, send me your address. I'm hooking up with

1015
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 2: some stuff. I appreciate the love.

1016
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 4: Hey take on some of these shocklicious gummies.

1017
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it. I'm gonna take a pack. Definitely,

1018
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 1: this is what you need. Gift back.

1019
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 4: We got the new Slams product. Get all the bags

1020
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 4: they got the new Slams product.

1021
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 5: Used to make sure his candy game is right. I'm

1022
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 5: gonna are you better your your candy.

1023
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: It better be right. Oh no, this is good, but

1024
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: you don't play about them candies.

1025
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 2: Bro.

1026
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: I'm about to make sure you got that. Actually, you

1027
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: shot sour Seved.

1028
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 4: Oh, thank you so much. I appreciate it. I appreciate it.

1029
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: You didn't get the personalized joint with the shack.

1030
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 4: That's okay. I appreciate it. Thank you so much.

1031
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:52,479
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. I love you. Oh you one brother.

1032
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 5: This has been a playmaker production.