Speaker 1: See Armstrong and Jetty show little stugg Because what we
Speaker 1: must understand in the city, state, and country is that
Speaker 1: practical is progressive. That's what that's the progressive is. If
Speaker 1: you were just talking about closing only the building of
Speaker 1: Riker's Island, that's not progressive. Close the pipeline at eads
Speaker 1: Riker's Island. I am practical and I am progressive. We've
Speaker 1: allowed that turn to be hijacked. And I'm not going
Speaker 1: to allow anyone to tell me that my policies are
Speaker 1: not progressive to deal with housing, to deal with coach
Speaker 1: tail and these important issues that we are facing. But
Speaker 1: that's what I say to my colleges across this country.
Speaker 1: We need real issues to solve, real problems to everyday
Speaker 1: people in this country. Sit Arriic Adams, who is going
Speaker 1: to be the mayor of New York City, and he
Speaker 1: ran on law and order and cracking down and adding
Speaker 1: to the police, not defunding the police, and uh he
Speaker 1: could be a template for Democrats in the same way
Speaker 1: that Yo them could be a template for Republicans. Perhaps,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna try to extrapolate, maybe we'll talk about
Speaker 1: that with long eachamp. But we have breaking news that
Speaker 1: I think is important, breaking breaking news, and the breaking news. Donkey,
Speaker 1: this is breaking news. Nancy Pelosi has officially announced that
Speaker 1: four weeks have paid family and medical leave are being
Speaker 1: added back in to the social spending bill, so making
Speaker 1: it more progressive. So is this the old switcher rule?
Speaker 1: Is she trying to kill it? I have been saying
Speaker 1: all day long. I only care about these results last night.
Speaker 1: If they kill these trillion dollar turn us into France bills.
Speaker 1: If they don't, it doesn't really matter. It doesn't really
Speaker 1: matter if if the if the if the, if the
Speaker 1: grow the government crowd always wins on policy. I don't
Speaker 1: care about the individual elections. If only we had someone
Speaker 1: we could talk about who's an expert in domestic police
Speaker 1: see well, Lan hea Chan is the candidate for California
Speaker 1: State Controller of these days. He's on leave from the
Speaker 1: Hoover Institution, Director of Domestic Policy Studies at Stanford University.
Speaker 1: It's been too long on he how are you hey?
Speaker 1: Great to be with you guys again. Thank you. Almost
Speaker 1: almost expired from COVID last Friday. I'm I'm vaccinated. I
Speaker 1: got the COVID. Was sickest I ever been a moment well,
Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear you're on the men, and I
Speaker 1: was sorry to here, but I'm glad you're fighting your
Speaker 1: way through it. So let's go to that breaking news.
Speaker 1: Lon he What do you think Nancy's up to? What
Speaker 1: are the prospects of the semi legitimate infrastructure Bill and
Speaker 1: the gigantic Build Back Better Bill in your mind? Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I think last night, with what happened in
Speaker 1: Virginia and what we're seeing, you know, play out in
Speaker 1: New Jersey, I think there's a lot of people who
Speaker 1: are panicked right now and they're trying to figure out
Speaker 1: what does it mean for next year, and in particular
Speaker 1: in Congress. You know, the the supposition was always that
Speaker 1: Republicans would have an advantage, you know Itdem's first mid
Speaker 1: term next year was going to be a good cycle
Speaker 1: for Republicans they pick up seats in the House and Senate.
Speaker 1: But I think last night really punctuated that and and
Speaker 1: part of I think the effort here is I think
Speaker 1: Democrats need to figure out what direction their party is
Speaker 1: going to go in. Are they going to go toward
Speaker 1: increased progressivism, increased wokeism and double down on you know,
Speaker 1: in my view, the kinds of things that failed last night,
Speaker 1: or are they going to try and turn in the direction.
Speaker 1: It seems like the announcement from Pelosi suggests that maybe
Speaker 1: they haven't learned those lessons, and they believe that they
Speaker 1: need to to to continue to move in in that
Speaker 1: progressive direction. But to your guys point, who knows is
Speaker 1: this an act of sabotage? Is this something something else?
Speaker 1: I really don't know. It's too early to tell. But
Speaker 1: last night a lot of lessons to be learned, I
Speaker 1: think by both parties. Well, here's here's what bothers me
Speaker 1: with that kind of analysis. When I hear and you're
Speaker 1: a policy guy, so I know you care about policy.
Speaker 1: You've advised campaigns on this sort of stuff. I hear
Speaker 1: regularly about how Obama overreached with a bomb Acare and
Speaker 1: he was punished in the mid terms. They lost sixties
Speaker 1: some seats in the House. Who freaking cares. The Democrats
Speaker 1: got what they wanted, put using on, putting us on
Speaker 1: the road to universal healthcare, and the same here if
Speaker 1: Nancy Polosi gets the turn us into France bills through
Speaker 1: who cares? If they get punished next year? They won,
Speaker 1: They got all these policies that I hate through. So
Speaker 1: isn't it about the policies and not the whether they
Speaker 1: get punished afterwards? Yeah, it is about the policies. Except
Speaker 1: what I would say in this regard is what will
Speaker 1: prevent them from passing those policies over the next several
Speaker 1: weeks is the fear of what happens next year. So yes,
Speaker 1: in retrospect, you're right. If they get the policy and
Speaker 1: they continue to move us in this big government direction,
Speaker 1: that is, you know, that's not a good outcome. But
Speaker 1: we are still at a point in time now where
Speaker 1: things can change, and we're still at a point in
Speaker 1: time now where the election results from last night, which
Speaker 1: I think we're pretty significant, can still have a pretty
Speaker 1: substantial impact on what happens with the policy going forward.
Speaker 1: So I think that's the sort of silver lining. But
Speaker 1: I agree with you. Look, if if we've already had
Speaker 1: six trillion dollars at fiscal stimulus, I don't think people
Speaker 1: even realize how much six trillion dollars did. People don't
Speaker 1: now now we're talking about adding whatever it is, a
Speaker 1: trillion and a half. I mean, at this point, the
Speaker 1: fact that we are even sort of saying, oh, only
Speaker 1: a trillion and a half. That is mind boggling to me. So,
Speaker 1: you know, I think people just need to understand that
Speaker 1: what what the best thing that can come out of
Speaker 1: last night would be a recognition from a policy perspective
Speaker 1: that there will be serious costs for moderate Democrats who
Speaker 1: vote for massive additional expansions in government. And I think
Speaker 1: that is something that certainly could be a lesson learned
Speaker 1: last night, And if it is, I think that'd be
Speaker 1: good news. Well you read my mind. I was just
Speaker 1: going to bring up the prospects of the dozens and
Speaker 1: dozens of moderate Democratic congress people who are up for
Speaker 1: election every two years. They have to have take Can
Speaker 1: a lesson. They've had to have taken note of what
Speaker 1: happened last night in Virginia. But having said that, let's
Speaker 1: let's focus for a minute on what happened in Virginia.
Speaker 1: Glenn Young Can, the Republican came from a way down
Speaker 1: to to beat Terry mccauliffe, longtime fixture in Democrat politics.
Speaker 1: I also think he's a soulless piece of garbage. But
Speaker 1: that's a that's a little editorializing on. My parents have
Speaker 1: no business telling schools out of teacher kids. So you
Speaker 1: had him lose having said that, which is one of
Speaker 1: the all time great exposures. Uh, you can call it
Speaker 1: a gaff, but he exposed himself, uh, and what he
Speaker 1: really believes. But you had Republicans also win lieutenant governor
Speaker 1: an attorney general in a state which is increasingly solidly blue. Lani,
Speaker 1: Why what happened? Well, I mean there's a lot of things.
Speaker 1: So first of all, you guys have set the scenes
Speaker 1: very well. Virginia is a state that pundits have been saying,
Speaker 1: you know, Republicans have no shot in right. This is
Speaker 1: a state that went from being a toss up state
Speaker 1: into thousand four or even two thousand eight to having uh,
Speaker 1: you know, pretty solid democratic majorities as we moved into
Speaker 1: the more recent era. And then what you saw last
Speaker 1: night was a complete see change. I mean, you saw
Speaker 1: a fifteen point flip, for example, amongst suburban women in
Speaker 1: their support for Joe Biden in and then just one
Speaker 1: year later, guys, it's not even talking about several years.
Speaker 1: This is one year later, those voters went dramatically in
Speaker 1: favor of Glenn Yunkin and the ability of Yuncan to
Speaker 1: compete in the suburbs, the ability to compete with populations.
Speaker 1: Uh that that frankly, we have not been competitive within
Speaker 1: Virginia for a couple of cycles. I think that is
Speaker 1: that that's the biggest point that we need to take
Speaker 1: coming out of this, which is a lot of debate
Speaker 1: will happen over how much of Virginia is replicable, how
Speaker 1: much of what happened last night we could see in
Speaker 1: other states. But fundamentally, what young can showed is if
Speaker 1: you've got a candidate who's focused on state issues, he
Speaker 1: was running for governor, he wasn't talking about national politics.
Speaker 1: He was focused on what can he do to make
Speaker 1: the lives of Virginia's better. That focus is appealing to
Speaker 1: people in the suburbs. It's appealing to women, it's appealing
Speaker 1: to constituencies that Republicans have struggled with in recent years.
Speaker 1: So in that sense, I think a lot can be
Speaker 1: learned because you've got a lot of these states, Colorado,
Speaker 1: even California where the suburban slide has been a big
Speaker 1: problem for Republicans, and I think young and and Republicans
Speaker 1: showed in Virginia that they can win, and that's a
Speaker 1: very important message. So many Democrats think Twitter is the
Speaker 1: real world, and I hope they continue to think that
Speaker 1: because they will lose a lot if they continue to
Speaker 1: think twitters were real world. That's what doomed Kamala Harris's campaign,
Speaker 1: That's what it is going to doom a lot of people.
Speaker 1: But I would say you can replicate it if you
Speaker 1: can convince your opponent to say parents should have no
Speaker 1: role in the school's teaching of the kids. If you
Speaker 1: can get your opponent to say that, it will help
Speaker 1: a lot. Although Lane, let me let me give you
Speaker 1: the other point of view, which I believe, which is
Speaker 1: if you can communicate that the left is so down
Speaker 1: with the teachers union and so not down with parents
Speaker 1: and kids, you can take that juice and maybe run
Speaker 1: with it a bit. Yeah. I mean, look, I think
Speaker 1: that the position that Terry mccaulliffe articulated is not that
Speaker 1: far from where you know a lot of Democrats, particularly
Speaker 1: in blue states, are particularly those running for office, because
Speaker 1: the pressures that those candidates face, they believe they have
Speaker 1: to bow to those constituencies, even if they're doing so
Speaker 1: to the point of absurdity. The notion that parents shouldn't
Speaker 1: have any say in what their kids are learning is ludicrous.
Speaker 1: It's ludicrous in Virginia, it's ludicrous in California. But that's
Speaker 1: the point of view that a lot of these guys
Speaker 1: have to take because that's where the modern Democratic Party is.
Speaker 1: The point is that the progressive, the far left progressive movement,
Speaker 1: a lot of this woke ism we're seeing has co
Speaker 1: opted a lot of mainstream quote unquote mainstream Democrats. And
Speaker 1: so what TERR McCall have said is not some crazy,
Speaker 1: kind of like out of left field thing. It's the
Speaker 1: position of the modern day Democratic Party. I think we
Speaker 1: have to acknowledge that. And that's why the Democratic Party
Speaker 1: is going to have problems in two whether it's in
Speaker 1: states like Virginia or Colorado or yeah, even California. I
Speaker 1: think they're going to have issues even here too. So
Speaker 1: you know, again, we just have to recognize it for
Speaker 1: what it is. It is not a position that is
Speaker 1: a a a deviant position within the Democratic Party. It
Speaker 1: is a mainstream position now within the Democratic Party. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I've said earlier, it only matters to me if
Speaker 1: it's if it's enough of a wake up call for
Speaker 1: modern Democrats to not allow these bills to pass pass.
Speaker 1: I'd like it if neither one of these bills passed.
Speaker 1: But you know, Nancy Pelosi is a salty old bag,
Speaker 1: my words, not yours. Um what I wonder what she's
Speaker 1: up to. What do you think, Joe? What the whole
Speaker 1: we're gonna put the the paid leave back in. Joe
Speaker 1: Mention has specifically said, no, that's a that's a line
Speaker 1: I won't cross. He specifically said that's a red line
Speaker 1: for him. And she's putting it back in. I've got
Speaker 1: to admit to being mystified. My assumption would be that
Speaker 1: she would feel like her true arch nemesis, which is
Speaker 1: the far lefties, the squad at all, that they would
Speaker 1: have the wind taken out of their sales, and she
Speaker 1: was gonna absolutely yank the party moderate towards the moderate
Speaker 1: and and get that infrastructure. When I'm mystified by this move, Lona,
Speaker 1: he do you have any thoughts? Well? You look in.
Speaker 1: Part of it also is while Pelosi may have instincts
Speaker 1: to move things back towards the middle of what, she
Speaker 1: also realizes that she's stuck between a rock and a
Speaker 1: hard place because she needs she needs that far left
Speaker 1: progressive base to turn out, and so she's got a
Speaker 1: turnout problem as well. We'll have to see what happened.
Speaker 1: By the way, the Virginia data is still coming in.
Speaker 1: Obviously on turnout, we know Republicans turned out last night.
Speaker 1: The question is did Democrats turn out and did the
Speaker 1: Democrats that that that mccauliffe needed to win. They clearly
Speaker 1: the part of this. Maybe it's now play. I'm not
Speaker 1: the directive domestic policy studies anywhere except maybe on this show. Um,
Speaker 1: but it just occurred to me. Okay, so the build
Speaker 1: back better things gonna go down in flames. I believe that,
Speaker 1: and I pray I'm right. But to help future turn out,
Speaker 1: it's now all about virtue signaling. So she's adding back
Speaker 1: everything that pulls reasonably decently, and it's gonna haul herself
Speaker 1: up on the cross. She's gonna scream and yell for
Speaker 1: it and demand it and make it clear that the
Speaker 1: Democratic Party is trying to get this for you, knowing
Speaker 1: it won't pass. Yes, stranger things that happened, Stranger things
Speaker 1: have happened. Well, I was expecting, Joe, you're a genius,
Speaker 1: but I'll take that right now. You're just flattering me. Lanten,
Speaker 1: candidate for California State Controller, Director of Public Policy Studies
Speaker 1: at Stanford University. Lannie, we could talk to you all day, Jack,
Speaker 1: you got one more. No, appreciate your time, Lani appreciated,
Speaker 1: always enjoyed so much. Thanks. Great to be with you guys.
Speaker 1: Thank you, you got it. I hadn't gotten to this
Speaker 1: quote yet from another Blue check mark. Lefty Republicans are
Speaker 1: able to feed their base misinformation directly through their news outlets.
Speaker 1: The Democratic Party needs to figure out ways two more
Speaker 1: actively court it's base voters on a regular basis. You
Speaker 1: are blanking kidding me. Other than all of the legacy media, elementary, middle,
Speaker 1: high schools, and colleges, yeah, all of the schooling, all
Speaker 1: of the legacy media, Hollywood and pop culture. Other than that, yeah,
Speaker 1: Other than that, you've got nothing. It's weird. Probably how
Speaker 1: to just just be quiet now, they're so delusional and
Speaker 1: so off base. The best thing we can do is
Speaker 1: just be quiet. I think you're right. That's the only
Speaker 1: thing that makes sense to me. She realizes it's gonna
Speaker 1: die now anyway. So let's put the good stuff in
Speaker 1: there that the real Wolke loved, you know, so so
Speaker 1: that they I'm on board with that. It's no longer
Speaker 1: about passing it. It's about signaling to the base. Put
Speaker 1: the candy back in. Yeah there interesting, You have any
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