Speaker 1: This is continuing coverage of the twenty sixteen and FL
Speaker 1: Draft on Della's Cowboys dot Com. Welcome you back to
Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen NFL Draft. Bryan broad Is, David Hellman,
Speaker 1: Dame Brugler, Kent Garrison helping you out today. Today, as
Speaker 1: I always like to say, is for the scouts, we've
Speaker 1: got fourth round action about to start here that will
Speaker 1: be with Cleveland Browns at pick ninety nine, will go
Speaker 1: through to pick two fifty three, which will be the
Speaker 1: final pick for the Denver Broncos. Before we went to break,
Speaker 1: I wanted you guys to handicap the quarterbacks. I asked
Speaker 1: a question about could we see a quarterback here at
Speaker 1: one oh one? Is there another player? But let's another
Speaker 1: player that potentially they could grab. But let's handicap the
Speaker 1: available quarterbacks. And we talk about Connor Cook, Dak Prescott,
Speaker 1: uh Driscoll, Alan Hogan, Cardell. Yeah, let's let's handicap, you know.
Speaker 1: And I know what you're gonna say, as far as
Speaker 1: as far as Jones, Jones that I let it go,
Speaker 1: you like that would go? I let it go. I
Speaker 1: know he's not coming here. He should yeah he should, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he should have been picked before this, honestly, but there's
Speaker 1: three guys. The guy, the USC guy went uh yeah,
Speaker 1: let's let's have a rule no, no bringing up Cody Kessler. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Would you rather have him or Cardell?
Speaker 1: All right, give me Cardell, give me a guys. Okay,
Speaker 1: But but the guys have Prescott Allen all guys with
Speaker 1: the Calgary guys. They've been linked to the guys that
Speaker 1: have visited here and did and worked with the coaches
Speaker 1: and all that good type of stuff. Yeah. Uh, if
Speaker 1: you're hand, I mean, those are the three I've got
Speaker 1: my eye on. I guess technically it could be a smokescreen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, who the hell knows. Maybe they
Speaker 1: like a guy that they haven't even talked to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but those are the three I've got my eye on.
Speaker 1: And if they want one, if they if they want
Speaker 1: to back up quarterback. This seems like a oh it
Speaker 1: is the Commissionero. Things started, Yeah, get things started here.
Speaker 1: Let's h we got the Commissioner at the podium experience
Speaker 1: in Chicago. Want to thank you the fans, of course,
Speaker 1: the people of Chicago, the city of Chicago, and the
Speaker 1: Great Bears, organization, and we have four outstanding Chicago Bears
Speaker 1: here today. To my left, Lance Briggs, James, Big Cat Williams.
Speaker 1: To my far right, Dan Hampton, Hall of Famer, and
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Gail Sayers. I'm gonna ask Gail'll say
Speaker 1: a few thinks, yes, Sayers should have gotten a figure
Speaker 1: on me. Does Kansas let him and jacket on good afternoon.
Speaker 1: My name is Gail Sayers, and play a little football
Speaker 1: for the scrub Bears and get a lot of other
Speaker 1: things later in my career. I fought for a long
Speaker 1: long time to get into the Hall of Fame, and
Speaker 1: I'm in the Hall of Fame, and so I'm just
Speaker 1: here to be with you, and I'm glad to see
Speaker 1: so many people in the crowd, and hopefully that we
Speaker 1: have another good year next year and we will be
Speaker 1: back again to have another good year. Thank you very much. Okay,
Speaker 1: So today we're gonna have fans from around the world
Speaker 1: announcing picks for the teams. They'll be fans selecting former
Speaker 1: players picking. So uh, we hope you have a wonderful day.
Speaker 1: So Round four is now officially open. The Cleveland Browns
Speaker 1: are on the clock. Okay, thank you very much, Commissioner.
Speaker 1: Nice to see GAYL. Sayers. There can't Kennis Kansas letterman
Speaker 1: jacket on there. It did, It must be must be
Speaker 1: a sparse crowd there in Chicago. That seemed like he
Speaker 1: got the round of a plus he was expecting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna bring out GAYL. Sayers bringing you, there's
Speaker 1: a side of me that I wish that we were
Speaker 1: in Chicago doing this right now. It would be very
Speaker 1: fun and cold. It would be cold. Oh we we
Speaker 1: We've we've been cold. We've we've been to the combine cold,
Speaker 1: We've done those things. Doing my job would be a
Speaker 1: big pain in the butt. Yeah, Chicago, I got you,
Speaker 1: all right. But we talked about the let's go Cleveland's
Speaker 1: on the clock, dare We talked about quarterbacks so for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and stuff like that. So we'll now focus
Speaker 1: since the drafts open for business. Here the Browns and
Speaker 1: factor on the clock that got back to back picks
Speaker 1: here at ninety nine. Hun, then we I've got the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones. As I look over my shoulder, here is
Speaker 1: fielding some calls. Everybody when they're all smiling like that,
Speaker 1: that means somebody offered something that doesn't make a whole
Speaker 1: heck of a lot of sense. If you're the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: what direction are you going here? Well, you know it's uh.
Speaker 1: I still have got a I've got a defensive end
Speaker 1: on the board that I that I personally like with
Speaker 1: Ronald Blair, I do, I do like, I do like
Speaker 1: if you wouldn't have taken a running back Dixon here
Speaker 1: book or would have been a good this this could
Speaker 1: be you know, wide receivers. We've talked about wide receivers.
Speaker 1: They brought in the you know they they brought in
Speaker 1: Higgins Lawlor Cooper is a guy you like I've heard
Speaker 1: when I was walking through the halls, Lissa be the
Speaker 1: kid from TCU. I know Nick Eatman has always talks
Speaker 1: about give me the guy that's the vertical player here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this could be. If we see a Derek Dooley come
Speaker 1: walking into this room initially, then maybe that's the direction.
Speaker 1: But I've got I've got Ronald Blair, the defensive end
Speaker 1: from app State on my board right now. See this
Speaker 1: is the Cowboys war room. There would be no arguments
Speaker 1: because that's exactly who I want to Yeah, and I mean,
Speaker 1: let's turn in the car. Let's go get the app
Speaker 1: stay defensive end. He's an instant contributor, Adam to the
Speaker 1: rotation and our football teams better. This is where I
Speaker 1: wonder about kind of our our own little vortex. You know,
Speaker 1: we we have ideas, We tend to agree with each other,
Speaker 1: We like each other. They didn't bring Ronald Blair in.
Speaker 1: I have not really heard a lot from Ronald Blair
Speaker 1: when I talk to them or listen to them. Right,
Speaker 1: that's not a name that I'm even having ideas on
Speaker 1: their radar. Okay, So I wonder if they're act. No,
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I don't discount Okay, as we
Speaker 1: look at the teams with the most fourth round picks, uh,
Speaker 1: the Cowboy excuse me, most picks in the fourth round
Speaker 1: in the common draft era. The Cowboys in nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: one have four. The Ravens are about to set up
Speaker 1: new record Ravens. Yeah, they'll keep them. Yeah, the Raven
Speaker 1: Ravens were doing a lot of moving around. Jerry Jones.
Speaker 1: If you're looking at war room cam, he is on
Speaker 1: the phone again. He is staring at the actual draft.
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson's pumping his fist. Yeah. So they've evidently got
Speaker 1: a guy in Cleveland that they want. Uh, they are
Speaker 1: on the clock. Hopefully they have two minutes left to
Speaker 1: get just picked up. We all know. Now we're onto
Speaker 1: the mode where it's five minutes per pick. So as
Speaker 1: of when early in these rounds, especially when teams have
Speaker 1: a chance to sit on their board and uh and
Speaker 1: look at those names, maybe not a lot of trading
Speaker 1: going on at the at the top. Guys like to
Speaker 1: sit there and make these picks. So it looks like
Speaker 1: with the Browns, they've got a pick. Now, let's see
Speaker 1: maybe what the second pick they had, pick one hundred
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones again, still talking among talking with Will mccle
Speaker 1: You don't get the impression that anything came of that
Speaker 1: phone call, just on the conversations happening my experience sitting
Speaker 1: in that room with it when they are on the clock,
Speaker 1: when they're on the phone, and then it hangs up
Speaker 1: and it's laughing. Somebody offered something ridiculous that they would
Speaker 1: not consider to get out of that pick. So let's
Speaker 1: see if a business does pick up for them here
Speaker 1: the Browns. That looks like the pick is in for
Speaker 1: the Browns again. This is four ninety nine um for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys sake. Let's you know, hope that that they
Speaker 1: don't get uh the Browns got him yesterday. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say the Browns are right there in front of him
Speaker 1: and got him on Immanuel Ogbah. Let's see if if
Speaker 1: what it happened you mentioned, I mean, I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: I'm going out on a limb. But I this is
Speaker 1: either going to be a defender or a quarterback if
Speaker 1: if Dallas hangs in here, that's my guest. Just take
Speaker 1: a quarterback potentially here or a defender. I mean, I
Speaker 1: can't be you could be absolutely right or they're you know,
Speaker 1: they mentioned center guard. That's obviously I defense or quarterback,
Speaker 1: that's my guess. I don't know, based on the way
Speaker 1: things have gone so far. Well and I also too,
Speaker 1: I have a Jeremy Cash on my board the safety
Speaker 1: from uh from Duke uh As as a potential guy,
Speaker 1: I think one of the one of the good tackling
Speaker 1: safeties in this drat. I mean, you know there's a
Speaker 1: lot of guys we talk about hitt and miss guys. Well,
Speaker 1: this guy's a secure player and he love for our guy.
Speaker 1: Jalen Mills, who is He was a Dallas Day visitor
Speaker 1: he's a local guy. Yeah, um, could be, could could
Speaker 1: absolutely be. Okay, the picks in for the Browns. Let's
Speaker 1: see how they operate today. Let's see if they do
Speaker 1: they said the commissioner said they're gonna do podium picks.
Speaker 1: At late in the draft. Yesterday we started getting just
Speaker 1: announcements of picks. This is where crawl bless the blessed
Speaker 1: the TV coverage guy. This is where it gets impossible
Speaker 1: for the Oh, this would be a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: This is where this is. I'm not talking about mayok
Speaker 1: so much on these guys, but just the people that
Speaker 1: have to keep up with the ticker and make all
Speaker 1: this work. I mean, it's just moving too fast for
Speaker 1: anybody to keep up with at this point. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: let's see what the Browns in fact do. I always
Speaker 1: loved the fourth round of a draft. You know, well,
Speaker 1: you know, I said, I always call it what the
Speaker 1: criminal medical round and all that they're gonna get. These
Speaker 1: teams are gonna get some really good football players. I mean,
Speaker 1: I always always loved fourth round picks because you seem
Speaker 1: to have two or three of them, or you know,
Speaker 1: it's the guys who are pretty damn I'm good, but
Speaker 1: there's something wrong with him that's got him here. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: in my cynical if I think of it as the
Speaker 1: BW web and naquasi us wants around, well, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: you are being a little cynical. Then jaded, you are negative,
Speaker 1: a little bit jaded. I was looking for my team
Speaker 1: niche chart here in the Browns day. Do you have
Speaker 1: any idea maybe at the Browns what they might do
Speaker 1: to start this day? They need everything. But here here's
Speaker 1: a committe ll'snown gonna be players, gonna announce pick our
Speaker 1: next pick. Here we the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft.
Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns welcome contest winner Patrick Star Joe thank
Speaker 1: you with the ninth and ninth. With the nine and
Speaker 1: ninth pick in the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns select Joe Schobert, go linebackers content. It's
Speaker 1: a it's a very good pick. Yeah, he's They're going
Speaker 1: pass rush, pass rush, pass rush in Cleveland. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: went with Ogba, then they added uh Nassim from Penn
Speaker 1: State and going back to the Big ten here with Schoubert. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a Shae McClellan clone. H I'm a big fan
Speaker 1: of the second round pick. Believer, first round, first round,
Speaker 1: putting the Bears Bears right, Yeah, absolutely, this guy just
Speaker 1: knows how to get to the quarterback. He's you know,
Speaker 1: the measurables are are average, are okay? You know? The
Speaker 1: size okay, he doesn't really stand out in that respect,
Speaker 1: but he has a nose for the football. Whether he's stunting,
Speaker 1: whether he's just rushing off the edge, he finds the
Speaker 1: football and he makes plays. So I think that's a
Speaker 1: very good pick for the Browns. I like that guy.
Speaker 1: I love Wisconsin football players because like he is, he's
Speaker 1: a tough son of a gun. Yeah he does. He
Speaker 1: gets to the football. Now they're at Wisconsin because they're
Speaker 1: not like, they're not highly touted guys. Wisconsin doesn't get
Speaker 1: the five star players, and you know they got to
Speaker 1: rely on stuff other than athleticism to get it done.
Speaker 1: But hey, they keep pumping out good players. So Joe Schobert,
Speaker 1: the linebacker for the for the for Wisconsin, uh is
Speaker 1: the pick um. You know we've seen, we've seen what
Speaker 1: looks like to me. Let's see. Oh wait, Oakland's now
Speaker 1: on the clock, so you gotta go at one hundred Okay, wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: in our mock draft, we were close. We call it
Speaker 1: Oakland maybe going up to one oh one. What they
Speaker 1: are going to one hundred? Well, here we go with
Speaker 1: Oakland now and the pick is in. That's for the Raiders.
Speaker 1: That's a decent jump too. Let me see a right,
Speaker 1: let me see all right? How about this, let's say
Speaker 1: linebacker and tior defensive linement, running back? Could they just
Speaker 1: could this be just a best available players situation? Here? Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's someone if you're going up, there's somebody light. Now
Speaker 1: we've talked about these quarterbacks. We've talked could one. Could
Speaker 1: they be looking for a backup for car out there?
Speaker 1: Do they? I mean they need one? They got that guy,
Speaker 1: the guy that we played here in twenty thirteen. What's
Speaker 1: his name? Can't even remember right now. He was there starting,
Speaker 1: he was there starting mclock mc mclo. Okay, here it
Speaker 1: is the one ERD pick one fourteen and one fifty four.
Speaker 1: Now go from the uh from the Raiders. Let's see
Speaker 1: that this is gonna be interesting. I think this. You
Speaker 1: don't make this. I mean there's somebody on this board. Obviously.
Speaker 1: Did they really really like about talk about running back? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Uh we went in our mock that we did in
Speaker 1: the draft show, I think we had the pick here
Speaker 1: and yeah, here we go. I can't get the host
Speaker 1: to announce our next pick in the two thousand and
Speaker 1: sixteen NFL Draft, Raiders would like to welcome Raiders, a
Speaker 1: legend and two times Super Bowl champion Jim Podcast. Thank you.
Speaker 1: And with the one hundredth pick in the two thousand
Speaker 1: and sixteen NFL Draft, the Oakland Raiders select Connor Cook
Speaker 1: quarter How about that right there? So forgive me, Brian. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we mocked, we mocked. It seemed like to me this
Speaker 1: was gonna be a pick. Okay, this means Dallas is
Speaker 1: on the clock right now. So here we go and
Speaker 1: we'll see what what in fact happens. Connor Cook. We
Speaker 1: talked about him as a potential pick uh for the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. But the Raiders understand that the Cowboys worked
Speaker 1: him out, visit with them, all kinds of things. Maybe
Speaker 1: they go out and grab the quarterback, the best quarterback
Speaker 1: they feel like the on the board right there. You
Speaker 1: know what's ironic is that's two days in a row
Speaker 1: that the team going just before the Cowboys has saved
Speaker 1: me from a pick that I don't like. And for
Speaker 1: about ten minutes last night, I was pretty pumped that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys had dodged this Oakba bullet because I don't
Speaker 1: really like him very much. Yeah, and obviously then they
Speaker 1: threw me a real curveball by drafting Jalen Smith. So
Speaker 1: here I am thinking, Okay, good, the Cowboys aren't gonna
Speaker 1: draft Connor Cook. But what are they gonna do? Okay,
Speaker 1: last night I didn't love their backup plan. Okay, Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones is on the phone in the war room right now.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys they could go for. You know, we've talked
Speaker 1: about defensive ends. We've talked about potentially quarterbacks. We've talked
Speaker 1: about you know, a lot of different positions. So looking
Speaker 1: best available. I mean we're talking defensive line. Yeah, Billings,
Speaker 1: something's going on there, Yeah, Hassan Ridgeway, Ronald Blair, Um,
Speaker 1: you know they made the pick, well, they made the
Speaker 1: pick the pick up one receivers and there Richard Higgins, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he was a Dallas day guy. I think
Speaker 1: if we go down through the list of guys with
Speaker 1: those defensive we talked about Blaird Tapper, maybe it got
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, those guys mean, we'll see what
Speaker 1: tooked with Tapper at the Senior Bowl. They yeah, they did,
Speaker 1: you know, And I think the scheme when we talk
Speaker 1: about him, I think scheme hurts him a little bit more.
Speaker 1: I mean he's a guy. But you do, his combine
Speaker 1: was outstand You see the the athletic ability with there
Speaker 1: it is Les Charles Tapper's in. So there you go
Speaker 1: Charles Tapper, the defensive end from Oklahoma. And uh so
Speaker 1: there it goes. Uh, Cowboys at one on one get
Speaker 1: Charles Tapper. I would I would have preferred Ronald Blair here,
Speaker 1: but I think this is a good spot for Tapper. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, I I gave him a late three or
Speaker 1: early four. That's right where this range is. Uh. And
Speaker 1: you you talked about the scheme fit Brian and and
Speaker 1: he's six two and a half two hundred and seventy pounds.
Speaker 1: But the way they used him at Oklahoma, Uh, it
Speaker 1: just it was not It didn't do him any favors. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: and but he was still able to get ten tackles
Speaker 1: for losses past year, seven sacks. You mentioned his combine
Speaker 1: ran a four or five, Yeah, four or five. His
Speaker 1: ten yards split was fantastic. A one five nine. Uh,
Speaker 1: this guy thirty four in vert. So I think he's
Speaker 1: a terrific pick here. Yeah and uh, but again I
Speaker 1: had Blair as the guy myself. But uh, and Tapper's
Speaker 1: a guy that probably they took on my board, probably
Speaker 1: took a round early. And here's the thing with Tapper.
Speaker 1: You go back to his sophomore year, watch him against
Speaker 1: Alabama in the bowl game. I mean he aj McCarron
Speaker 1: is still having nightmares from Charles Tapper, uh, putting pressure
Speaker 1: on Alabama in that pocket. So I think if you
Speaker 1: watch that sophomore tape, you get excited. Then you watched
Speaker 1: him the last two years and how he was misused
Speaker 1: and you're a little disappointed, But he was misused, and
Speaker 1: so I think that's a big part of his evaluation.
Speaker 1: But I think, you know, you love the promise with
Speaker 1: his player and he didn't start playing football until his
Speaker 1: junior year in high school. Yeah, so you know, he's
Speaker 1: still got a lot of upside, a lot he's going
Speaker 1: to get better. I really like what Tapper could be
Speaker 1: two three years from now. Yeah. That's uh, my scouting
Speaker 1: report is not as glowing as as your scouting report
Speaker 1: is dying and I I just thought I'd need to
Speaker 1: see him react a little bit quicker. And and you know,
Speaker 1: maybe that has to do with the scheme. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: I saw some things though with uh uh. He just
Speaker 1: doesn't do enough off the edge. For me. I saw
Speaker 1: some stiffness. I saw some tentative play and again lights running. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it might be it might be the and and right
Speaker 1: there you saw him retrace his steps. That was something
Speaker 1: that I I saw. I thought he stayed square, but
Speaker 1: I thought he needed to do a little bit better
Speaker 1: job of freeing himself. And again, I'm gonna say that
Speaker 1: the Oklahoma scheme, when you watched him play, it doesn't
Speaker 1: always uh make these guys shine. And maybe the fact
Speaker 1: that you got a guy with the athletic ability of
Speaker 1: Charles Tapper, that maybe that you can do something with that.
Speaker 1: So San Diego is now on the clock. Their pick
Speaker 1: is in. You guys write the scouting reports, you know
Speaker 1: far more than me. But you mix that athleticism with
Speaker 1: his size. That's what I like them. I like the
Speaker 1: fact that he should be ready to go. This isn't
Speaker 1: a Randy Gregory type of guy who needs to eat
Speaker 1: a couple of bags of water Burger before he shows
Speaker 1: up the practice. Yeah, he's ready to play, or he
Speaker 1: should be at least. Yeah, and uh yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: maybe maybe it's it's obviously you guys love Ronald Blair.
Speaker 1: But I can get on board with that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: can get on board with that pick. Well, that's good
Speaker 1: and all the hey, all of a sudden, you've used
Speaker 1: two pretty premium picks to work on that pass pass right, Okay,
Speaker 1: the Chargers picks. Now in let's see who in fact
Speaker 1: that she's not a fan. That's Joey Bosa. Oh all right.
Speaker 1: With the hundred second pick in the twenty sixteen NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the San Diego Chargers select Joshua Perry, linebacker. Joey Bosa
Speaker 1: loves that. Yeah, the teammate hit Joshua Perry, the linebacker
Speaker 1: number eleven for the Buckeyes. Yeah, so yeah, the Buckeyes
Speaker 1: just right, you're right, Dane now would be the eleventh
Speaker 1: Buckeyes selected, uh in this draft. A little bit about
Speaker 1: Joshua Perry in terms of human beings. He's a first
Speaker 1: round pick, maybe the number one overall pick, and just
Speaker 1: a great person, very smart. Urban Meyer always says that
Speaker 1: he's a guy that could run for political office. I
Speaker 1: mean he's he could be the president of the United States.
Speaker 1: That's the type of person he is u in terms
Speaker 1: of intelligence and just the way he interacts with everyone
Speaker 1: around him. But he looks like a defensive end out there.
Speaker 1: But he has some movement skills like a safety. I
Speaker 1: mean his straight line speed. He's a four sixth athlete.
Speaker 1: I think he's a player that can blitz, he can cover,
Speaker 1: you can do a lot of things with him. So
Speaker 1: to me, I thought he's a third round player, a
Speaker 1: guy that can start in multiple schemes. He played weak side,
Speaker 1: strong side middle at Ohio State, so he has versatility
Speaker 1: at all three linebacker spots. Okay, so that now puts
Speaker 1: they'll put Jacksonville will be on the clock. It looks
Speaker 1: like that Jackson de Ville, the best Masks mascot in
Speaker 1: the NFL was is trying to repel with the Jacks.
Speaker 1: Selection to remember when that idiot repelled down Wimbley Stadium
Speaker 1: in London. Yeah, that was pretty fun. That was prefair. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we'll see that Jacksonville Jaguars have Kevin Hardy, former
Speaker 1: All Pro linebacker for the Jacksonville Jaguars, along with future
Speaker 1: All Pro linebacker Miles Jacky PG Sweet Stakes you may
Speaker 1: the pick winner Michael Garcia with one hundred and third
Speaker 1: pick of the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, the Jacksonville Jaguar
Speaker 1: Select day defensive tackle Sheldon Day, defensive tackle Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: Kind of a kind of a favorite of Rod Marinelli's
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. I'll never I love that so much.
Speaker 1: Beat Like he's he's a short guy. We've talked about
Speaker 1: it before, like he's definitely not the most Actually, I
Speaker 1: remember Charles Tapper was not the biggest name at the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, but he just looked like the biggest, baddest
Speaker 1: guy there when you look at him eye test wise, right,
Speaker 1: Sheldon Day was maybe the least impressive guy there on
Speaker 1: the eye test. And Rod Marinelli absolutely loved that guy.
Speaker 1: He worked him at both spots. He was all over him.
Speaker 1: He was right up in his grill during every drill. Yep,
Speaker 1: he was very enthusiastic about We talked about Cody White
Speaker 1: here maybe in Zach Martin light, uh that Sheldon Day
Speaker 1: is Aaron Donald light. I mean he's he's that undersized undertackle,
Speaker 1: a guy that wins with quickness and penetration. The biggest
Speaker 1: worry with me with Shelton Day was he hasn't made
Speaker 1: it through a whole season without being hurt. And then
Speaker 1: just scheme fit. He's not going to be a fit
Speaker 1: for every team. But it was interesting at the Senior
Speaker 1: Bowl lining him up outside, yeah, and putting him in
Speaker 1: a few different spots, and so Rod Marinelli had a
Speaker 1: lot of fun with him. Yeah, Rod Marinelli a lot
Speaker 1: of credit for that because they were showing some highlights
Speaker 1: of the Senior Bowl and he was taking Jason Spriggs
Speaker 1: to task a little bit, uh who was taken earlier
Speaker 1: by the Green Bay Packers in the third round of
Speaker 1: this draft. So Baltimore is now on the clock. It
Speaker 1: looks like their pick is gonna be in at one
Speaker 1: oh one Baltimore, one of the Baltimore has always been
Speaker 1: the team that's been the nemesis of the Cowboys. Looks
Speaker 1: like a little bit maybe the Cleveland Browns had become
Speaker 1: the nemesis of you know, with the trades and so
Speaker 1: if in fact they did, like Connor Cook, if they
Speaker 1: were going to go that route, you know, getting you know,
Speaker 1: the Raiders able to trade up ahead of them and
Speaker 1: make that pick. Any thoughts about Hey, we've with maybe
Speaker 1: what the Browns are you thinking about? There's a lot
Speaker 1: of cornerbacks on this board that we you know, we've looked.
Speaker 1: I'm just just going off the board, just looking. We've
Speaker 1: talked about receivers. Uh okay, well here we go, there
Speaker 1: we go picks in, So they goes Tavon Young, Temple,
Speaker 1: Temple cornerback. I was here, I was look focusing on
Speaker 1: my board. Tavon Young the quarterback, cornerback, excuse me, out
Speaker 1: of Temple is the pick? Uh Dane. Some thoughts on
Speaker 1: Tavon Young undersized five nine hundred and eighty three pounds,
Speaker 1: but I think really competitive player, really feisty. Uh. He
Speaker 1: is able to make up for some of his size
Speaker 1: limitations because he plays with sound technique, um and instincts.
Speaker 1: He finds the ball quickly and just a very fearless player.
Speaker 1: Like he doesn't play like he's undersized. He he plays
Speaker 1: like he's six one, two hundred pounds. And so whether
Speaker 1: he plays in the sea, probably have to play in
Speaker 1: a slot. That's probably where Tavon Young is going to
Speaker 1: make his money in the NFL. But I think he
Speaker 1: can be an isn't contributor on special teams and then
Speaker 1: work for starting Nickel roll. Yeah, I think this guy
Speaker 1: is a really nice job of rallying to the football.
Speaker 1: I think he needs to turn and locate the ball
Speaker 1: a little bit better down the field. It might have
Speaker 1: something to do with his height at five to nine,
Speaker 1: as you said, but plays with some balance, stays in position,
Speaker 1: can play out of the slot. I think that's really
Speaker 1: the most important thing that you said right there. So
Speaker 1: Tavon Young goes to the Baltimore Ravens with pick four
Speaker 1: one oh four. That will now put this is gonna
Speaker 1: be it. I believe, if I'm correct, the pick is
Speaker 1: San Francisco's. But I believe this pick for some reason
Speaker 1: now is in Kansas City's hands, maybe from a previous
Speaker 1: trade that mark Kansas City will go back to back.
Speaker 1: It looks like here on the clock at pick one
Speaker 1: oh five and pick one oh six, So as time
Speaker 1: looks like it's a winding down for this pick, and
Speaker 1: we'll see if in fact it is. Then um talk
Speaker 1: about a little bit what maybe we could see from
Speaker 1: San Francisco. We we you know, that's uh, Chip Kelly.
Speaker 1: They've taken a lot of what PAC twelve players still
Speaker 1: on the board, we got Casey here right. Oh, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: that's right, That was right right? Well? And the Chiefs, yeah,
Speaker 1: they go back to back, gave one six actually right
Speaker 1: about that. Um, you know, looking at you know, they
Speaker 1: traded out of the first round completely. Then they got
Speaker 1: some defensive line help with Chris Jones in the second round. Uh,
Speaker 1: and then in the third round who think go on
Speaker 1: the third round? Third round selection from the Chiefs and
Speaker 1: with Cavari Russell the Notre Dame quarter. So maybe go
Speaker 1: back to offense. Now we'll see what they do here.
Speaker 1: Back to back. But do you think the Cowboys were
Speaker 1: targeting Connor Cook at one on one and that Oakland
Speaker 1: kind of stuck in there? I mean, do you think
Speaker 1: that was a pick? I had a feeling that they
Speaker 1: liked Connor Cook, I really did. Yeah, maybe even more
Speaker 1: than Hackenberg and maybe you know, I mean, who know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I was I could said. I was told
Speaker 1: a lot of different things, and some of them have
Speaker 1: actually been true and some of them haven't even been close.
Speaker 1: So you know, just need to kind of think about that.
Speaker 1: It's impossible that Oakland was on the phone with them
Speaker 1: when Jerry was talking before the round started. Is that
Speaker 1: I mean every I mean, yeah, it makes if if
Speaker 1: he was gonna get his fifth round pickback. I don't
Speaker 1: know why he didn't do it. It makes sense to
Speaker 1: me that they would want a quarterback. But yeah, you
Speaker 1: sit here with you know, I mean, you got another
Speaker 1: pick in the fourth and you've got probably through while
Speaker 1: you can. You lost Cook, but you've still probably got
Speaker 1: three guys that you like enough to draft, right, So
Speaker 1: maybe they weren't sweating it. Maybe maybe Chapper was their
Speaker 1: guy all along. Maybe there's a good chance there was
Speaker 1: there was a chance that he was a guy. Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe they don't. Maybe they see, okay, the picks in
Speaker 1: for the Chiefs maybe, but maybe they see maybe like
Speaker 1: one of these other quarterbacks, maybe they like their odds
Speaker 1: that Dak Prescott or Brandon Allen is sitting there at
Speaker 1: one thirty five exactly. Let's go out to uh, let's
Speaker 1: go out to Kansas City and see what we got
Speaker 1: working for their pick. Kansas City picks in. That is
Speaker 1: a really fancy plane that they just showed on. Okay,
Speaker 1: I guess we're not gonna get there coverage. Maybe they
Speaker 1: didn't have the audio was not not rolling right there.
Speaker 1: Let's see if they announced the pick. Yeah, they were
Speaker 1: at an air Force base with some impressive equipment there.
Speaker 1: Maybe they had some some audio problems. Again, Kansas City
Speaker 1: is back to back at picks uh one oh five
Speaker 1: and one oh six. Uh. Talk a little bit about
Speaker 1: what you know with Kansas City. Seems like a team
Speaker 1: it's always Chase an offensive lineman they are. And they
Speaker 1: made a few splashes signing Mitchell Schwartz uh and free agency.
Speaker 1: He's going to be that right tackle. They also lost
Speaker 1: a few guys with Donald Stevenson. He left uh Ben
Speaker 1: Grubbs his careers winding down, so they let him go.
Speaker 1: So offensive line would make a lot of sense here.
Speaker 1: And let's look on the draft board. Let's see who
Speaker 1: has available. Well, you talk about Westerman, you know Westerman,
Speaker 1: Joe Dahl, uh, Darryl Greene, Yeah, Gerald Hawkins. You know
Speaker 1: that you feel like that they were fact they'd go
Speaker 1: inside or would him maybe take a guy that Eric
Speaker 1: Fisher's in the final year of his deal. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: maybe think mbie go offensive tackle tackle. We talked about
Speaker 1: Kyle Murphy here me Murphy from Stanford. I think that
Speaker 1: in insure was another guy that we may be brought
Speaker 1: up Cincinnati since from Cincinnati. So let's say, okay, it
Speaker 1: looks like we're back with Kansas City. Let's see if
Speaker 1: we got him up on the UH, if we got
Speaker 1: availability around the nation and around the world. Welcome to
Speaker 1: Whiteman Air Force Base. We are proud of the women
Speaker 1: and men that serve in the Chief's kingdom in here
Speaker 1: and this incredible piece of machinery, the B two bomber,
Speaker 1: I'll say, which makes sure that we defend our country
Speaker 1: and what is good around this world. And we have
Speaker 1: got the people here not only with the B two,
Speaker 1: but this entire base that we'll talk about throughout the afternoon.
Speaker 1: But for the Chiefs pick well, I want to introduce
Speaker 1: to you now from the five O ninth Bomb Wing,
Speaker 1: Communication Squadron, Technical Sergeant Heath Curliss. I'm Technical Sergeant Heath
Speaker 1: Curless from the five o ninth Bomb Wing. With the
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifth pick of the twenty sixteen NFL draft,
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs select Parker Edinger Guard Cincinnati. There
Speaker 1: you go. We always say they're chasing, the Chiefs are
Speaker 1: always chasing offensive linemen, and it looks like that they
Speaker 1: drafted another one right there in Parking at headinger Cincinnati
Speaker 1: left tackle, and he played all over that offensive line
Speaker 1: at Cincinnati. To me, he's a guard. I don't see
Speaker 1: him staying outside at tackle. But this is higher than
Speaker 1: I had him. I had him more as a late
Speaker 1: run I think I had a seventh round grade on him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but six six or in ten pounds is a player
Speaker 1: who he does his best work in smaller spaces, and
Speaker 1: so that's why I think he has to play guard
Speaker 1: in the NFL. For his best spot is when you
Speaker 1: watch his film, you know he doesn't make a lot
Speaker 1: of mistakes. There's not a lot of negative tape out
Speaker 1: there for him. But I just saw average traits and
Speaker 1: so it'll be interesting interesting to see how they use him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's UH and it looks like the pick is also
Speaker 1: in at UH one oh six. We'll see that as Yeah.
Speaker 1: With with Parker, I saw some stiffness in this guy
Speaker 1: and the way I like the way he works with
Speaker 1: his hands inside. He could sustain for two or three
Speaker 1: steps and then after that then he totally falls apart.
Speaker 1: So I think you could jerk him off balance. I
Speaker 1: don't think he just very well on the second level.
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Dane. I really had some trouble with
Speaker 1: this guy because I didn't think he had very good
Speaker 1: redirect and maybe that's why he had to play inside.
Speaker 1: So I really enjoy that. About day three of the draft,
Speaker 1: I remind him thinking of Eric Murray. Yeah, Eric Murray,
Speaker 1: you're thinking about Eric Murray. Eric Murray is now the
Speaker 1: Kansasy chief and we saw Eric Murray, Dave, do you
Speaker 1: remember him from the Senior Bowl. We absolutely did. Tenacious
Speaker 1: guy he was. He was always cut in line to
Speaker 1: getting getting Braxton Miller's face. If I remember, this fits
Speaker 1: what the Chiefs want at corner. They want press guys
Speaker 1: that will come up and look to make receivers uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: And that's what Eric Murray does best. You know, five eleven,
Speaker 1: two hundred pounds. Uh, he's a four or five athlete.
Speaker 1: Not not the most twitched up guy, but uh, you know,
Speaker 1: he's physical. He'll he'll get up in the face of
Speaker 1: receivers and it looks at get in their head and
Speaker 1: looked the knock him off balance. That's really what he
Speaker 1: does best. So I think if he can figure out
Speaker 1: a way to harness that aggressive nature, uh, there's no
Speaker 1: question he can play at this level and whether can
Speaker 1: he play in the slot. I think he's gonna be
Speaker 1: a special team to start with, and then you hope
Speaker 1: maybe by year two he's fighting for a starting job
Speaker 1: and that Eric Murray, Yeah my self, I did see
Speaker 1: a guy that could play out of the slot. I
Speaker 1: thought that he could adjust to the football. We saw
Speaker 1: a little bit that the Senior Bowl. But I thought
Speaker 1: he was a poor technique player, Like you said, very handsy,
Speaker 1: very much grabby handsy, that type of guy, physical law
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. I don't think he always
Speaker 1: played with very good lateral agility for somebody that was
Speaker 1: playing out of a slot. And you know, I think
Speaker 1: that he'll do a good job with his the way
Speaker 1: he is matching up with size. I do like that,
Speaker 1: But I what did you grade him ask? I had
Speaker 1: him as a cornerback. No, but like round round I
Speaker 1: had him in the fifth round. That's where I had
Speaker 1: him as well. I did. I just I love the
Speaker 1: variables at this point in the draft because one man's
Speaker 1: seventh round pick, there's no doubt about it. It It reminds
Speaker 1: me of that was gonna say a minute ago. It
Speaker 1: reminds me of Anthony Hitchins. I remember that I threw
Speaker 1: a lot of people for a loop, sure lower grades
Speaker 1: from other people. Cowboys liked him enough to take him
Speaker 1: in I think one thirty five, one thirty something. I
Speaker 1: had Eric Murray in the late third, early fourth. I
Speaker 1: think this is right where I liked this pick for
Speaker 1: him and turns of value where they're getting him. And
Speaker 1: Eric Murray was a two star guy. Okay, he kind
Speaker 1: of you know, brought himself up and learned and really
Speaker 1: developed his own skill set. So Eric Murray's a fighter.
Speaker 1: He's a guy that I'm not. You want to bet
Speaker 1: against the player like this? Okay, it looks like the
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens are on the clock at one oh seven.
Speaker 1: Here uh, we have the audio from Charles Tapper from
Speaker 1: earlier this morning. Hey, Charles Jerry Jones with cowboys, are
Speaker 1: you doing? You're not gonna have to come too far
Speaker 1: south to leave that in armon? Are you no, sir?
Speaker 1: And we're glad to have you. We're drafting you. I'm
Speaker 1: definitely glad to be a cowboy. All right, buddy, Well,
Speaker 1: you got what I'm excited about is that you're gonna
Speaker 1: get some great coaching. You got you great defensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: a great head coach here. So we're excited for you, sir.
Speaker 1: You've had a great career and no reason for you
Speaker 1: not to extend it and get better when you get
Speaker 1: up here. We're proud of you, sir, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Thanks for the opportunity you bet. Here's our head coach,
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett. Charles, Yes, sir, congratulations, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Poe Hey, We're really excited to have you. I'm definitely,
Speaker 1: I definitely can't wait. Bick cowboy, he can't wait to
Speaker 1: get down and start this journey. Good, you're ready to
Speaker 1: get to work, Yes, sir, I'm definitely gonna be working.
Speaker 1: I promise you that. Good. Can't tell you, Pump. We
Speaker 1: already have you on our football team. I'm extreming you
Speaker 1: something to you on the football team. So great. Congratulations again,
Speaker 1: thank you, sir, Thank you so much. All Right, Charles
Speaker 1: seeing a few days, buddy, all right, there you go.
Speaker 1: You know what I love and I mean, Dallas fort
Speaker 1: Worth is here real quick. Let's go to Baltimore's pick
Speaker 1: if we can. Baltimore to announce the next pick in
Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen NFL Draft to Baltimore Ravens would like
Speaker 1: to off command former Ravens fullback Bontae Leach beast Love
Speaker 1: with the one end of the seventh pick in the
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen NFL Draft to Baltimore Ravens to let Chris
Speaker 1: Moore wide receiver assist Cinnati. All right, Chris Dave, finish
Speaker 1: your thought. I just love and I mean Dallas. This
Speaker 1: is a huge city that pumps out tons of football players.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys are also the most visible and largest fan
Speaker 1: base in football, so it's not surprising, but it seems
Speaker 1: like every single year they draft a guy who's clearly,
Speaker 1: you know, his family's got ties to the Cowboys. Maybe
Speaker 1: he grew up a Cowboy fan. Charles Tapper obviously played
Speaker 1: two and a half hours up the road in Norman.
Speaker 1: They've drafted a lot of Baylor guys, a lot of
Speaker 1: Dallas guys before. It's just it's fun to me that
Speaker 1: every year, you know, it's it's everybody's dream to play
Speaker 1: in the NFL. But these guys, specifically, a lot of
Speaker 1: them probably grew up rooting for the Cowboys, and that's
Speaker 1: that's cool. A lot of Cowboys fans are smart enough
Speaker 1: that they know this. But you look at the measurables.
Speaker 1: And there's a trend here, right. The Cowboys like to
Speaker 1: pick these guys that test really well. Charles Tapper's one
Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, let's real quick, dame the Buccaneers. Now
Speaker 1: greatness coming ahead of them. Well, now let's look who
Speaker 1: they drafted. Well, with the hundred eighty pick in the
Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft, they take a quarterback
Speaker 1: from out of sin All University. And next time, Brady, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm only kidding, only kidding, the Bucks they take with
Speaker 1: one hundred eighth pick in the two thousand and sixteen
Speaker 1: NFL drap Ryan Smith, defensive back from North Carolina Central.
Speaker 1: There you go, Okay, my man, Dicky V just scared
Speaker 1: the crap out of me. Yeah, because they got Jamis Winston.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Like what are they doing? Why are they
Speaker 1: taking a quarterback off the board. I don't need I
Speaker 1: don't need that to happen. I need I need my
Speaker 1: guy to be there real quick. Let's cover up at
Speaker 1: Chris Chris Moore, Dan, and then we'll hit and then
Speaker 1: we'll hit this pick with Ryan Smith. Chris Moore a
Speaker 1: deep threat. I mean he averaged over twenty one yards
Speaker 1: per catch the last two years each of the last
Speaker 1: two years. This guy, Uh, he's a deep threat and
Speaker 1: so he's gonna make plays. Uh, That's that's what he
Speaker 1: does best. He doesn't have, you know, true game breaking speed, right,
Speaker 1: but he just has a great understanding of vertical routes
Speaker 1: and how to track the football deep. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's his best qual I think you're exactly right. I
Speaker 1: saw a lot of separation with the way he played
Speaker 1: going up the field. He went up with the ball
Speaker 1: a Gainst Houston high pointed it nicely. Best routes are
Speaker 1: just when he can go vertically. So Chris Moore, Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: he is. He is with the Baltimore Ravens now And
Speaker 1: now I'll talk about Tampa. Another cornerback, one of your favorite.
Speaker 1: Ryan Smith one of my favorite players in this draft,
Speaker 1: and I think at this point as a steel I
Speaker 1: game a third round grade. They get him in the
Speaker 1: early fourth so a great pick for the Bucks. This
Speaker 1: is a player who he was a basketball player in
Speaker 1: high school, played football as a senior when under recruited.
Speaker 1: It was a safety starting off at North Carolina Central.
Speaker 1: At the FCS level, they move him the corner as
Speaker 1: a junior in the past two years. You see him
Speaker 1: getting better and better. You see you see the fluid
Speaker 1: lower body that you want. You see ball skills, You
Speaker 1: see a guy that can find the football. He was
Speaker 1: terrific against the Duke. You know he comes from the
Speaker 1: FCS level, so you know, beat up on some bad competition,
Speaker 1: but against Duke, he was fantastic. I love this pick
Speaker 1: for the Bucks. Yeah. Well, and the Giants are now
Speaker 1: on the clock. It looks like their pick is in. Uh.
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you about Ryan Smith. I had
Speaker 1: him on in that mix we talked about with Howard
Speaker 1: and Fuller, Ryan Smith, Seymour Redman, I mean you know
Speaker 1: Redman and Fuller ago end of the day yesterday. Uh,
Speaker 1: and then now then Ryan Smith, who I felt like
Speaker 1: could have gone yesterday as to be a part of this. Okay,
Speaker 1: that makes the Uh. The New York Football Giants at
Speaker 1: a pick one oh nine are on the clock. Um.
Speaker 1: The Giants, uh, you know, talked about they did some
Speaker 1: nice things, uh free agency defensively, we we you know,
Speaker 1: we we need to think about them. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: where could they go? The guys on the board, Uh,
Speaker 1: linebacker maybe another spot for them. They always seem like
Speaker 1: that there that's a position where they've had some struggles. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's a if you look at it as one of
Speaker 1: their UH six needs that we had. Uh linebacker could
Speaker 1: could very well be as I always think that they're
Speaker 1: always gonna get defensive players for summer, even though I
Speaker 1: mean Kenshall Brothers is still out there. How about the
Speaker 1: have a Goodson? I mean there were some three three down,
Speaker 1: three round three linebackers for me, Martinis, Goodson Brothers. If
Speaker 1: they're gonna go linebacker there Goodson, there we go. Any
Speaker 1: how that happened? No, but you know that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I the two the last two picks that have been made,
Speaker 1: Smith and Goodson for me, we're third round players. And
Speaker 1: here we are sitting in the fourth round. And you
Speaker 1: gotta be if you're a fan, you gotta be saying,
Speaker 1: at least on my board, hey, nice job Giants, Nice
Speaker 1: job Buccaneers getting guys that are third round players on
Speaker 1: my board in the fourth round, right, and b J.
Speaker 1: Goodson kind of underrated? You know. We talk about that
Speaker 1: Clemson defense, uh, and we talk about Shack Loss, and
Speaker 1: we talk about Kevin Dodd, we talk about McKenzie, Alexander
Speaker 1: some of those safeties B J. Goodson quietly, it was
Speaker 1: just a playmaker all year for that Clemson defense in
Speaker 1: the middle. Uh, you know, not the best in coverage
Speaker 1: in terms of his athleticism, but downhill, he might be
Speaker 1: the most instinctive linebacker. He's in He's in the group
Speaker 1: if you're talking most instinctive linebackers in this class, he's
Speaker 1: in that conversation. So uh him and uh, you know
Speaker 1: Kenshall brothers a similar type of mold. I'd like this
Speaker 1: pick for the Giants. Yeah, the Giants again, we h
Speaker 1: it always seemed as one of their six needs that
Speaker 1: we had. Yeah. I'm just kind of looking through and
Speaker 1: I always feel like that the Giants are banged up
Speaker 1: at linebacker. Yeah, good are they got They've had retired?
Speaker 1: I mean they yeah, yeah, they do. They always seem
Speaker 1: to have. Yeah. Okay, well, so we've we've got to
Speaker 1: Charles Tapper, UH, defensive in from the University of Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys pick here in the in the fourth round.
Speaker 1: Charles Uh. From the guys here at Dallas Cowboys dot Com.
Speaker 1: Welcome aboard. It has to be very exciting morning for
Speaker 1: you right now. It's a very exciting moment. My family
Speaker 1: is in the house going while I had to step
Speaker 1: out here. Well it's good. Yeah, we were. We were
Speaker 1: listening to the audio in the in the call with
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones and Jason Garrett and all that. And you
Speaker 1: don't have to go very far to play your football.
Speaker 1: Is the fact that that your family, you talk about
Speaker 1: your family, they have to be really excited too about
Speaker 1: being able to come down and see you play on
Speaker 1: a weekly basis as well. Yeah, they definitely can. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'll get the harmony. Two I was away from my guards,
Speaker 1: and two I was away from coach Stopson. I see
Speaker 1: a lot of those coaches in my father's think. So
Speaker 1: if I need to call them anytime going on the same,
Speaker 1: he's going to very easy to do it. Hey, Charles,
Speaker 1: congratulations again. Man Um, just curious. I know you had
Speaker 1: a chance to participate in the Senior Bowl down in
Speaker 1: Mobile earlier this year. I know you weren't on the
Speaker 1: Cowboys team, but I was just wondering, Yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: what type of chance you had to get to know
Speaker 1: the coaching staff or any experience that you've had with
Speaker 1: them during this process. I got to meet him a
Speaker 1: little bit just walking around, getting to talk to him,
Speaker 1: and we got like fifteen minutes to talk to every
Speaker 1: coach and I got to pick the coach Ramernellian brain
Speaker 1: and see what he thinks I could do better and
Speaker 1: see how can I become a better player. And it's
Speaker 1: crazy that I'm going to really begin coach Obama and
Speaker 1: hopefully become one of the one of the greatest Sea Lions.
Speaker 1: That is Coach and me and coach me a while
Speaker 1: we worked out in Norman, and it was it was
Speaker 1: very fun with an individual drill and I just it
Speaker 1: was it was amazing to finally get to do that
Speaker 1: and do that with America team. When you, uh, I'm sorry, Dan,
Speaker 1: but when you I guess you know, coming into today,
Speaker 1: did you have an idea that Dallas was one of
Speaker 1: the teams looking at you? Or I guess how good
Speaker 1: of an idea did you have of where you might
Speaker 1: be going today? I had no idea at all. I mean,
Speaker 1: I was just sitting going through the process and I
Speaker 1: was really hoping that Dallas to me because it was
Speaker 1: so close to Norman. I mean, get to play with
Speaker 1: America's team. Who who want to pass that opunity and
Speaker 1: get to play with coach Garrett I mean one of
Speaker 1: the greatest coaches in the NFL, that I have the
Speaker 1: best D line coach nfs off. I'm definitely looking forward
Speaker 1: to getting down there and getting to play buck and
Speaker 1: getting tour it and Charles, you were asked to two gap,
Speaker 1: you asked to play inside, outside, do a little bit
Speaker 1: of everything on the OU defensive line. Where do you
Speaker 1: think you fit best at the NFL level? Five technique,
Speaker 1: getting up to skill, being destructive and especial chain, doing
Speaker 1: anything really to make the team win. They got I
Speaker 1: gotta kick down that three checking gets up. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do that. Whatever whatever it takes to make the team win,
Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna do it. Well. Charles, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for taking time for us this morning. Uh, congratulations again.
Speaker 1: We're looking forward to seeing you here when you get
Speaker 1: to Dallas your next man, and we will look forward
Speaker 1: to having some interactions with you when you get here. Okay,
Speaker 1: take care. Thank you. Charles Tapper, defenseven, Oklahoma, Dallas's selection
Speaker 1: at one oh one. Uh to start today here the
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen I am NFL Draft. I'm not the scout,
Speaker 1: I know. I mean you you guys have the reports. Yeah. Uh,
Speaker 1: athleticism it's a need position for the Cowboys. He's an
Speaker 1: experienced guy, played in the Senior Bowl. This is not
Speaker 1: his first rodeo. Like I said, it's not a guy
Speaker 1: and I mean Randy Gregory's a freakish talent, don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong, but this is a guy who should be
Speaker 1: ready to do things right away. The key for him
Speaker 1: is gonna be if he can rush the passer and
Speaker 1: play you get the edge. I mean, I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not saying anything to nobody else. This pick will either.
Speaker 1: It will hinge on him being if he could develop
Speaker 1: as an edge rusher. That the questions I had going
Speaker 1: into this about him was his ability to finish as
Speaker 1: an edge rusher and that and if he can in
Speaker 1: fact do that outstanding pick. I think Ronald Blair's a
Speaker 1: little bit better at it. But you know what they
Speaker 1: they again, I'll say it for the falluson time today.
Speaker 1: They don't care what I think just watching him play.
Speaker 1: If he develops, he's got the applicability, the scheme might
Speaker 1: be killing him right now. I think that's the That's
Speaker 1: the key I think, and that's why you view him
Speaker 1: with upside because again, he didn't start playing football the
Speaker 1: sport and a football until his junior year in high school.
Speaker 1: He goes to OU. They kind of miscast him on
Speaker 1: that hybrid three four that the Sooners like to run.
Speaker 1: You know, he was often in that frog, stands both
Speaker 1: hands on the ground. So yeah, I think we're coming here.
Speaker 1: They're going to totally rebuild that technique and the mechanics
Speaker 1: the position, what he can do. I think the player
Speaker 1: that we see for the Cowboys the next few years
Speaker 1: will be different than the player we've seen it. So
Speaker 1: I hope, so I will. I mean, I'll take his athleticism, Sure,
Speaker 1: I'll take it. Sure you're putting him on the right
Speaker 1: or left side, I would put him on the left side.
Speaker 1: That's what I thought. Yeah. Yeah, And we've had a
Speaker 1: few picks here over the last ye could at the
Speaker 1: at one on one at the ramps, which I don't
Speaker 1: think we've had the ramp. We haven't seen the ramp. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the ramps. Because of the trade that they made to
Speaker 1: go to go all the way up in the draft,
Speaker 1: this is the first pick that they Habit's at four
Speaker 1: at one ten. They take the tight end from Western Kentucky,
Speaker 1: Tyler Higbee Well and they get their number one picks
Speaker 1: some Hell yeah, you know they go for a pass
Speaker 1: catching tight end. This guy is could end up being
Speaker 1: a steal here. You worry about he was just arrested
Speaker 1: last month. He has some knee issues. But in terms
Speaker 1: of on the field, what he brings to the field
Speaker 1: as a as a receiving tight end six six, two
Speaker 1: hundred fifty pounds terrific athlete. The body control, his ability
Speaker 1: to pluck the ball down the seam. Really, like with
Speaker 1: Tyler Higbee, can be at the next level. But again,
Speaker 1: the knee is is a question mark there. That's why
Speaker 1: he's available here. Plus the fact at the off field
Speaker 1: you have to do a little bit of work there
Speaker 1: and figure out what kind of person he is. And
Speaker 1: at four one eleven that would be the Detroit Lions
Speaker 1: and they take your favorite safety, Miles Killer Brew Dan
Speaker 1: Turner's favorite guy, Dan Turner. Good afternoon or good evening,
Speaker 1: Dan Turner, if you're listening overseas. We don't want to
Speaker 1: beat him up too much. But you know, funny story,
Speaker 1: what was it in December? I think I came in
Speaker 1: and you guys were watching tape and like, you know, Dan,
Speaker 1: pick a guy. Let let's just let's watch someone. I said, well,
Speaker 1: Miles kill a brew you know there's something there like him,
Speaker 1: and throw him on And it was not a flattering tape. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, he just he flies around but no anticipation. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, he's missing tackles, his angles are off. But
Speaker 1: when you look at just you know, the raw measurables
Speaker 1: at six two, two hundred and seventeen pounds, a four
Speaker 1: or five athlete. Uh, they think that, you know, they
Speaker 1: can mold him into something. At very worst, he's going
Speaker 1: to be a special team's ace. Okay, that's uh, okay.
Speaker 1: The pick is now in this pick after that, see
Speaker 1: after Detroit's pick. This is a pick that was in
Speaker 1: New Orleans. It's now with the Patriots. Uh, it's pick
Speaker 1: four one twelve. The Patriots just selected Malcolm Mitchell. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: wide receiver from Georgia. He has got easy speed and
Speaker 1: he's an athlete. Um, there's so much to like about
Speaker 1: this player. But you worry about the durability. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: he's had a tough time staying healthy. Uh. He's got
Speaker 1: very lean limbs. Uh, so you kind of worry about
Speaker 1: him being able to hold up. And I think those
Speaker 1: durability issues are a bright red flag. But in terms
Speaker 1: of athleticism, the way his skills translates to the NFL
Speaker 1: really excited about what he can be if he stays healthy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Malcolm Mitchell, Uh you know, let me see what I
Speaker 1: had my notes here from. Uh, you're right about the
Speaker 1: way he way he runs, you know, And I tell
Speaker 1: you this, I really for a tall guy. I saw
Speaker 1: him play the low ball well, I mean when coming
Speaker 1: across the middle and stuff. His ability to just the
Speaker 1: quickness and routes. Uh, he gets open like when he
Speaker 1: runs those like stutter goes, redirection routes that he has
Speaker 1: to do. I did seem body catch some balls, but uh,
Speaker 1: you know a little bit like you talk about the
Speaker 1: lean limb guy. Maybe some problems too with contested catches.
Speaker 1: So keep an eye on him. Malcolm Mitchell. Wide receiver
Speaker 1: Georgia New England Patriots. Patriots picked by virtue of the
Speaker 1: Saints trade up for Von Bell last night. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think so. I didn't market on my sheet, but that's
Speaker 1: that seems leaves the direction. Okay, Uh, let's see who
Speaker 1: the Rams once again are back on the clock. Uh,
Speaker 1: this is a this is the pick that they got
Speaker 1: back to flip. Okay, now the Rams are gonna trade's
Speaker 1: gonna trade this pick, and let's see which way if
Speaker 1: it is it the pick? The pick was Tennessee's pick,
Speaker 1: so was it was? It was LA's pick trading out
Speaker 1: of this La. Yeah, someone's going had to Cleveland right here, Yeah,
Speaker 1: to get someone. Yeah, let's see who it is. Uh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see who's on the clock. It looks like
Speaker 1: to me the Bears are gonna be on the clock.
Speaker 1: So this pick is gonna go from it's gonna go, well,
Speaker 1: it's Los Angeles pick through Philadelphia, from Philadelphia through Tennessee.
Speaker 1: So the Bears are now on the clock at one thirteen.
Speaker 1: Let's see who in fact they they grab um, but
Speaker 1: we would go just go back a couple of picks though,
Speaker 1: the Miles Killer Brew one though, just okay on that one,
Speaker 1: right though, I mean if you talk about the safety,
Speaker 1: so though the guys like Powell and and you know,
Speaker 1: Cash and Kendrick and I mean Kendrick and those guys,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I think again you're with Killer Brew.
Speaker 1: You are drafting measurables. A guy that is fast, he
Speaker 1: has range. Yeah, he flies around like a missile and
Speaker 1: he'll hit you. I mean he loads up behind his
Speaker 1: pads and he drives through his target. But the anticipate
Speaker 1: and the angles. Again, I think you're talking about a
Speaker 1: special teams guy who you hope he is going to
Speaker 1: push for a starting role. But I don't know. Again,
Speaker 1: with safeties, you need to be able to rely on them,
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure you can on this player. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so this this pick now belongs to the Bears. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be pick one thirteen in the fourth round. Uh, Bears,
Speaker 1: do you think maybe thinking be a guest, maybe thinking
Speaker 1: some defense. I'm looking at my board. We've got all
Speaker 1: those linebackers. I mean we talk about Martinez and brothers.
Speaker 1: Uh Manicabage, Uh, the West Virginia kid, Uh Quickkowski, Quickkowski.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe I don't know. I'm looking. Bears to me,
Speaker 1: always another one, like like the Giants. Maybe they're looking,
Speaker 1: you know, looking at the linebacker spots here. Whatever the
Speaker 1: problem is with him? At what point does Andrew Billings
Speaker 1: just speaking I don't know, I mean and and talking
Speaker 1: to Nick Eatman, who's got a great dialogue with Baylor.
Speaker 1: He he says that the head coach Art Browles does
Speaker 1: has no understanding of any type of injury. Yeah, now,
Speaker 1: I brought this up yesterday. Yeah, I think it's a
Speaker 1: lot of teams had reservations about his instincts, about his
Speaker 1: ability to this much instinct fall from. I mean, we
Speaker 1: were thinking Pittsburgh at twenty five. They set the army
Speaker 1: to work him out. There. There's something else there that
Speaker 1: we're not figuring out. It's possible, it is possible. I
Speaker 1: thank god he didn't go to the draft because it
Speaker 1: would be a nightmare. Yeah, this would be for him though.
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I think I think the
Speaker 1: Bears trying to help himself again. I'm looking some of
Speaker 1: my best names I'm talking about. We've talked about Blair,
Speaker 1: We've talked about Martinez, Brothers, is undersize, Manacavage. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys that you know that. I'm
Speaker 1: just looking at linebackers and be okay, well, here it
Speaker 1: is the Bears. They send the Bears get one thirteen
Speaker 1: and the Rams now have one seventeen. Uh that's the
Speaker 1: one that they get. So they gave him a six.
Speaker 1: They get up a six round to get this pick,
Speaker 1: and then they also gave up uh two O six,
Speaker 1: which is in the like day six, sixth round picks.
Speaker 1: So they moved up a couple of spots here someone
Speaker 1: they wanted to They wanted to jump ahead of Cleveland,
Speaker 1: Atlanta in Indianapolis here to get their guy. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: we will see, uh in fact, who that uh that
Speaker 1: pick is? Uh that the ore tracker has been doing
Speaker 1: a nice job of kind of firing them out at
Speaker 1: a pretty nice pace here. But they seem to have
Speaker 1: slowed down on the on the on the Bears pick. Uh,
Speaker 1: Cleveland has the pick at one fourteen. They are behind
Speaker 1: the Bears. They're just thinking about them. Any any any
Speaker 1: thoughts more, uh with with what's going on with Cleveland
Speaker 1: did load it up on pass rush on linebackers. So
Speaker 1: I think we need to go towards the offense. Now
Speaker 1: you're watching you're watching this war room cam right now
Speaker 1: because Jason Garrett's doing quarterback pantomimes. Yeah, Jerry, Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: gonna get down here at one thirty five. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: what the hell else could they be talking about. Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett's dropping back and slinging Rocky Brandon Allen goes back.
Speaker 1: This is what he looks. I mean, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: if the war room camp is very good. Wills over
Speaker 1: on the far right, you know that, I've ever seen
Speaker 1: something like that where you can tell what they're talking
Speaker 1: about so clearly. Because Jar's pick is in right now,
Speaker 1: can't let's pull it up. We can't real quick, you
Speaker 1: can't hear me. I didn't think you could hear me either.
Speaker 1: It's on, bro, let's go. We got you. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna let you today, all right, So these microphones are
Speaker 1: going to television. Let's take this one as well. To
Speaker 1: speaking to all three okay, live from Selection Square in
Speaker 1: Graham Park. I'm Russid Davis, former Chicago Bear wide receiver,
Speaker 1: to announce our next pick. In the two thousand and
Speaker 1: sixteen NFL NFL Draft, the Chicago Bears were like too
Speaker 1: welcome twenty two years season ticket holder Kathy Shafer, Hey, Kathy,
Speaker 1: thank you. With the one hundred and thirteenth pick. In
Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, the Chicago Bears select Nick Quitekowski.
Speaker 1: Here we go from this. Dude just seems like a
Speaker 1: Chicago Bear Quitkowski Koski. I don't like that the word
Speaker 1: quits in his name, but other not at all. It
Speaker 1: is true, although in his pronunciation it's k w I t.
Speaker 1: I thought, you know this, here's a guy I thought
Speaker 1: that uses his shoulder a little bit more than his
Speaker 1: hands and kind of goes low as a tackler. Didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't think he played the low block particularly well.
Speaker 1: That means a little bit, maybe some problems with bending.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, he'll bounce off some blockers over lentless,
Speaker 1: finds the ball, He missed, some tackles on the edge,
Speaker 1: attacks the line. You know. I felt like though that
Speaker 1: he's kind of a tough guy, that's a limited athlete.
Speaker 1: I think that's that's what I'm not looking at a
Speaker 1: rangey player here. But I think when you look at
Speaker 1: his quick reaction skills, that's what I really like about
Speaker 1: the player. I think he has those quick reaction skills
Speaker 1: to uh click and close, and that's why he always
Speaker 1: shows up around the ball. That's why he's led the
Speaker 1: Mountaineers and tackles each of the last three years. So
Speaker 1: for for Chicago, definitely understand the thinking here, all right,
Speaker 1: Dave talking to me a little about what's going on
Speaker 1: in that war room some more than I mean, this
Speaker 1: is a heated discussion. This is as heat is as
Speaker 1: they've been probably since night number one. I mean, you
Speaker 1: got Will gesticulating over here, he's talking with his hands
Speaker 1: like an Italian person. You got Jason Garrett over here
Speaker 1: doing quarterback pantomimes. Um, I don't know. I'm obviously we
Speaker 1: can only guess as to what they're talking about, but
Speaker 1: it certainly seems as though quarterback is a topic of
Speaker 1: discussion here. Do you think maybe you think maybe they're
Speaker 1: talking about a trade? Well, I you know, they get
Speaker 1: talking about do they like one of them? They've got,
Speaker 1: They've got picked, They've got picked one thirty five. It's
Speaker 1: a long way to wait. If you think your quarterbacks
Speaker 1: sitting there though, well you gotta let's yeah, there's you
Speaker 1: gotta fall. And I mean we're talking in one fourteen,
Speaker 1: there's twenty one or picks. Yeah, maybe maybe they're maybe
Speaker 1: they're debating whether somebody's worth going up for. And actually
Speaker 1: that's um, that's something I wanted to bring up with you, Brian.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm probably putting you on the spot here,
Speaker 1: and I apologize. Ron Leary he's still sitting there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're gonna trade him this Yeah, run Larry has has
Speaker 1: signed his tender. Maybe maybe to get back in the
Speaker 1: fifth round. Well, yeah, what do you think he's worth? Where?
Speaker 1: Where can where? He's a start? He's a starting NFL guard.
Speaker 1: It played on on an offensive line that, when he
Speaker 1: was a starter two years ago, led the National Football
Speaker 1: League in rushing. Again, I think the thing about him
Speaker 1: is does some people feel like though that he's at
Speaker 1: the end of that medical run. But he's one of
Speaker 1: those guys that wasn't draft. I don't think they like
Speaker 1: us talking about it because they're putting the towel over
Speaker 1: the camera. Yeah, yeah, sorry, Jason, but we already saw
Speaker 1: you doing your Brandon Allen impression or whatever that was.
Speaker 1: So anyway, puts up of somebody's hands. Yeah, right up
Speaker 1: in our face. Oh man, man, Douglas, Douglas, you laughing
Speaker 1: in there because you think they heard us talking about
Speaker 1: about this guy who knows h can't. What do you
Speaker 1: think does it matter? I mean, are we not allowed
Speaker 1: to talk? Yeah, we're absolutely gonna talk about it. But
Speaker 1: I guess it's there right to cover up the camera. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just can we can we pull the video of
Speaker 1: I just I want like a gift or a clip
Speaker 1: of Jason doing just doing the quarterback drop back? Um? Wow,
Speaker 1: they are really struggling to put this towel up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we could, we could still, that's okay, we'll still talk
Speaker 1: about Okay, the picks in for the Atlanta Falcon. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry the brown Yeah, I'm sorry. Lewis Ricardo Lewis a
Speaker 1: wide receiver from Auburn. Nice catch. They're damn sorry about that.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I know we're gonna get to the pick.
Speaker 1: But where do you think Ron Learry can help you? Go?
Speaker 1: Ron Leary, he could get your your five back? Can
Speaker 1: Ron by himself? You gotta put a sixth in there
Speaker 1: with him? Like? No, I mean, just if you Ron Learries,
Speaker 1: if you look at some give me fifth round guards,
Speaker 1: you know, give me guys with give me tell me,
Speaker 1: tell me of these fifth round guards. We say green,
Speaker 1: Alexander doll Uh Turner, I'm giving you. I'm giving you
Speaker 1: a veteran guy on the really on the cheap. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that you could. You could plug in and play as
Speaker 1: a start. Can he get you into the fourth Well,
Speaker 1: I mean I'm sure that when the FF the phone
Speaker 1: start ringing, then that's that would be the case. But uh,
Speaker 1: like say day talk about talk about Lewis a little bit.
Speaker 1: If you could though another PFA that the Browns just
Speaker 1: drafted on my board. This is interesting because he's a
Speaker 1: guy that some teams have worked out as a corner. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because he's six two, two hundred and fifteen pounds. But
Speaker 1: the question are his hands very shaky, unreliable pass catcher.
Speaker 1: So uh, maybe the Browns were drafting him as a
Speaker 1: convert for a corner. Maybe they're keeping him at receiver.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I gave him a p F
Speaker 1: A grade as a wide receiver. But the intrigue about
Speaker 1: moving him possibly to the secondary. I could see why
Speaker 1: a team would want to draft him. So we'll have
Speaker 1: to wait and see on Lewis, Okay, Uh, that would
Speaker 1: be and then that puts the foul. That's what's going
Speaker 1: on here. We got the Falcons selection, kent't is, Oh wow,
Speaker 1: all right, okay, yeah we missed that with Okay, mock
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys. Okay, DeVante Campbell linebacker ure excuse me,
Speaker 1: Devondre Campbell, linebacker from Minnesota goes to the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 1: Uh with that pick there at one fifteen, Dane and
Speaker 1: he thought, on mister Campbell, Uh, interesting backstory, Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of very you went under recruited, uh with the
Speaker 1: jew he was ready to kind of not play football,
Speaker 1: and then in the JUCO Game of Chance. After a
Speaker 1: few years there went to Minnesota. He's he's built well
Speaker 1: for the position. I mean, if you walked into this room,
Speaker 1: you just kind of be in awe. Uh just uh
Speaker 1: you know, it's physically sculpted that that type of specimen.
Speaker 1: And he's an athlete. My biggest question is the instincts.
Speaker 1: I don't see him. I don't see any instincts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so you know he looks like a defensive end.
Speaker 1: He moves really well. But again I don't see the
Speaker 1: ball awareness. Um. And so that that's why I questioned
Speaker 1: this pick. Okay, that that would mean now the Indianapolis
Speaker 1: Colts are on the clock. They the pick is in.
Speaker 1: Let's see if we get it across the scroll of
Speaker 1: the bottom here or they gonna make some type of announcement.
Speaker 1: Uh as you look at the players. Well, again, we
Speaker 1: talked about uh Blairs available. We haven't heard Ridgeway's name call.
Speaker 1: That's another one. We talked about linebackers, wide receivers, westrom
Speaker 1: in the guard. I mean, man, i I'm just I
Speaker 1: think they could go a lot of different ways. Let's
Speaker 1: see in fact, any thoughts here on what they might
Speaker 1: do anybody with the Colts. It's an outstanding value here.
Speaker 1: I thought this was a second round player. Yeah, myself too.
Speaker 1: The biggest question was conditioning. Um there's some issues about
Speaker 1: you know he and he stay on the field. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, you can't help your club in the tube.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of the mindset with Ridgeway because when
Speaker 1: he's on the field, you see power, you see quickness,
Speaker 1: you see the ability to reset on the move, quickly
Speaker 1: find the ball and react. Uh. He can make plays, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, within his funnel. So I to me, Ridgeway,
Speaker 1: I thought it was a second round talent. But again
Speaker 1: there were some questions about just can he stay on
Speaker 1: the field with injuries and being able to stay conditioned
Speaker 1: and so, Hassan Ridgeway, I agree with everything you say.
Speaker 1: I saw the guy play left defensive end. You know
Speaker 1: it gets TCU. So he's got some position flexibility as well.
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you when he when he gets
Speaker 1: a position he could finish. That's one of those things
Speaker 1: I really really like about him. And he uses some
Speaker 1: technique as a pass rusher. So Hassan Ridgeway defensive tackle.
Speaker 1: Texas goes to the Indieapolis Colts. The LA Rams are
Speaker 1: on the clock. Here will their pick is in? Uh,
Speaker 1: it's pick one seventeen. This one went from Buffalo to
Speaker 1: Chicago to LA. They could you know, we've we've got
Speaker 1: I look at these names. Uh, we've got a bunch
Speaker 1: of receivers. We got a guard on the board. We
Speaker 1: got a safety on the board, one of your favorite players.
Speaker 1: I mean there's like Higgins, Lawler, Cooper, listen, be all
Speaker 1: those types of guys, Robins. I mean, they've got some receiver.
Speaker 1: If they want to get this quarterback some help, I
Speaker 1: would like, I mean Cooper Higgins. But you they took
Speaker 1: the tight end Higbee the first time around. Do you
Speaker 1: try and get him some You know, there's been some
Speaker 1: questions about the Rams when you watch the play with
Speaker 1: even with Tavon Austin a little bit about about that.
Speaker 1: Maybe this is too simplistic, but go get his college teammate, Yeah,
Speaker 1: law law point Lawler, Yeah, Lawler would be my guy
Speaker 1: is who they would get? Uh? Do you I mean,
Speaker 1: do you have any favorite receivers that you really learn? Cooper,
Speaker 1: Richard Higgins, both of these guys got Barrel Cooper way
Speaker 1: up there. Yeah, I think he was your Farrell Cooper comparison.
Speaker 1: You got who he is. I think that's he could
Speaker 1: not you know, in terms of that's he's going to
Speaker 1: instantly be that type of player, right, But in terms
Speaker 1: of role and what can mean for an offense, I
Speaker 1: think he can grow into that type of role. Yeah.
Speaker 1: With Farrell Coop. Oh, here we go with the pick
Speaker 1: sent for the Rams. Let's get it here, Kent Garrison.
Speaker 1: It's Hollywood with one hundred and seventeenth pick of the
Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteam NFL Draft. Marilyn, you are gorgeous.
Speaker 1: The Los Angeles Rams select Pararell Cooper, receiver South Carolina.
Speaker 1: Nice shot Dane Burglar. So I felt like he's the
Speaker 1: second round player on my board. Yeah, yeah, Farrell Cooper.
Speaker 1: The I had him in the third myself, and so
Speaker 1: he is a la ram uh Just okay, Dan, go
Speaker 1: ahead and gush a little bit more about Farrell Cooper. Well,
Speaker 1: I think he's not the fastest, he's not the biggest.
Speaker 1: That that's not his strength in terms of you know,
Speaker 1: the stop Watch or with the with the Watch says,
Speaker 1: but I think he can out of the slot from
Speaker 1: the outside. Just get the ball in his hands and
Speaker 1: he'll create. Um. You know, I mentioned the Randall Cooper
Speaker 1: and it goes to when he was at South Carolina.
Speaker 1: He did a little bit of everything, and I think
Speaker 1: there's something to be said when you're clearly the best
Speaker 1: player on your offense and yet you're still productive, you're
Speaker 1: still able to make plays. And that was a case
Speaker 1: with something that quarterback play to everything. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean Drill Adams is a solid tight end. Yeah. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Brandon Shell's an okay offensive lineman. But after that,
Speaker 1: it's a big drop off until you get to tell
Speaker 1: of a highlight. They show that kid man Pharrell Cooper,
Speaker 1: though I love to I had I had him in
Speaker 1: the third round. Again, my third round receivers, Higgins, Lawlor Cooper.
Speaker 1: The fact that they got him here at and I've
Speaker 1: seen it seeing teams picking guys that we say Red
Speaker 1: Ridgeway to us, a second round guy Goodson, Ryan Smith, Cooper,
Speaker 1: guys that are third round players getting picked in the
Speaker 1: fourth round. You gotta like those things. If you're looking
Speaker 1: at these boards, does it bother you that he appears
Speaker 1: to have a very similar skill set to Tavon Austin. Well,
Speaker 1: I think he's closer to what day. I think he's
Speaker 1: a better catcher of the football. I'm not talking about
Speaker 1: whether he can catch, just I mean he's he's that
Speaker 1: shifty slot type of he. I mean, did the Rams
Speaker 1: have a big receiver. They have Kenny Britt. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: have Brian Quick, who was the second round or five
Speaker 1: few years ago. But I mean act like I know
Speaker 1: the Rams. I do know. I do know. I do
Speaker 1: know that they Hi j if you're going to see
Speaker 1: them in the preseason, see in the preseason. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: better study up on my Rams. Yeah, you talk about
Speaker 1: the wide receivers there, let's see. I just uh, let's
Speaker 1: see uh Bailey Stevin. Bailey's one of the guys. Brett
Speaker 1: nicktoon another guy. Yeah, yeah, so I and well, okay,
Speaker 1: I guess that makes me feel a little bit better.
Speaker 1: I just I feel like the Rams just have this
Speaker 1: rotating cast of smaller, shiftier, speedier type of receivers. Not
Speaker 1: that there's anything wrong with that, but well obviously there is,
Speaker 1: because they're trying to go out and add players to it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean they've gotten Jared Goff two weapons today, so
Speaker 1: good for them. Yeah, good for them, absolutely, Okay. U
Speaker 1: My buddy Mike mccagnan is on the clock at the
Speaker 1: New York Jets at pick one eighteen. That pick is in,
Speaker 1: uh the Jets one of those teams though that uh
Speaker 1: with we always like this, the swag of Todd Bowles.
Speaker 1: You think he uh you think he helps still helps
Speaker 1: his defense or could this be an offensive pick here?
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that's captain obvious a little bit.
Speaker 1: But they they've had some they've they've had some turnover
Speaker 1: a little bit though in the secondary they have and
Speaker 1: you know that might be as we look at I
Speaker 1: look at the corner board, Mills is still out there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: look at some of the corners. Seymour from USC was, yeah,
Speaker 1: talk about you talk about I mean, Todd Bowls likes
Speaker 1: those versatile guys. I mean, Jalen Mills probably gets some
Speaker 1: difference of opinion whether he plays safety or corners. Right
Speaker 1: for you? Uh? DeAndre Hall mentioned, Harlan Miller was a mentioned.
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at some corner. I mean I think
Speaker 1: that maybe I just it's one of those things where
Speaker 1: you always I had that gut feeling about the Giants.
Speaker 1: I have a gut feeling about the Jets and maybe,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe trying to help their secondary a little bit,
Speaker 1: uh with you know, with some of the things that's
Speaker 1: gone on there with with them. So I'm about to say,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sitting here about to say, oh, well,
Speaker 1: they let Chris Ivory go, why don't they look at
Speaker 1: running back? I forgot they signed Matt fourteen. Yeah, there
Speaker 1: you go. So it's crazy, like free agency is such
Speaker 1: a big deal for two weeks and then by the
Speaker 1: time the draft rolls around, you're like, oh, yeah, they
Speaker 1: got that guy. Yeah, the Jets. We talked about them.
Speaker 1: Uh they you know, if we look at their defensive
Speaker 1: needs again, outside linebacker, inside linebacker, uh, interior defensive line,
Speaker 1: and cornerback was a need. They have starters in place.
Speaker 1: May not be able to keep Williams after next year. Milner,
Speaker 1: That's the one. It always bothered me, the Milner pick,
Speaker 1: because I had you, Okay, well here's the Jets. The
Speaker 1: Milner pick has not worked out for them at well
Speaker 1: at alder Capers with the hundred eighteen pick in the
Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteenth draft, the selet Justin Burns. There
Speaker 1: we go back, all right, you know, what I just started,
Speaker 1: Like when I was looking at my team needs to
Speaker 1: start the day, and I thought, Okay, what's am I
Speaker 1: gonna do? Yeah, well, he wouldn't tell me who he
Speaker 1: was gonna take. He told me he was gonna take
Speaker 1: a corner. He says, we might take a defensive back.
Speaker 1: I tried to play that one off as best I could.
Speaker 1: But this is a good player here. I had a
Speaker 1: fifth round grade on him. A big kid who likes
Speaker 1: to get physical. He likes to, uh you know, get
Speaker 1: his hands involved and uh disrupt the rhythm of receivers.
Speaker 1: So I do think he can have some discipline issues
Speaker 1: at times, but he finds the football. He gets his
Speaker 1: hands on the ball. Uh you know. He looked thirty
Speaker 1: seven passes defended over his career, six interceptions. Um, I
Speaker 1: think he's going to play early in his NFL career. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The thing. The thing I had a problem, and I
Speaker 1: watched a ton of games. I didn't feel like that
Speaker 1: he was very quick, you know, and I thought he
Speaker 1: really had to hustle to run and to turn and
Speaker 1: to get in position. I did like the way he
Speaker 1: played the ball with the off hand. They used him
Speaker 1: as a blitzer. I didn't think he was always physical though.
Speaker 1: I thought he got pushed around better, but got better
Speaker 1: at times since the games went on. So some herky
Speaker 1: jerky movements with him. Uh, a little bit cautious in
Speaker 1: the way he plays. So we'll see how Justin Burrows
Speaker 1: works out for the New York Jets. This means now
Speaker 1: that the Houston Texans are on the clock and the
Speaker 1: pick is in Rick Smith. Uh yeah, Rick Smith working
Speaker 1: the phones and stuff for they do their war room
Speaker 1: in the team meeting room. It looks like that's yeah,
Speaker 1: they like, okay, scouts go all the way to the back,
Speaker 1: is what they they've got working here. So I kind
Speaker 1: of dig getting to look around at all the different setups.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I honestly think the Cowboys might have the
Speaker 1: most like intimate, crowded war room in there. And and
Speaker 1: it drives you nuts. I bet it does. And you
Speaker 1: need some space. Yeah, not long. We're about to go
Speaker 1: vastly different. We're about to go to have like robots
Speaker 1: with touch screens that help them put the board together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right about that'd be fun, uh are you guys?
Speaker 1: The most surprised though, is we understand with Billings, but
Speaker 1: none of our running backs have gone. Yeah, hey, Dickson, Booker, Collins,
Speaker 1: John Perkins. I mean there's some guys who want to
Speaker 1: you want to play Devil's advocate for a second. Boy.
Speaker 1: I feel wrong about that group, maybe the only one.
Speaker 1: I think. We're really shocked by his Dixon. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I don't know. I wasn't in love with Dix. I
Speaker 1: think you know, oh I was, But all those carries
Speaker 1: he had a four year starter. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: teams worry about that. Booker has the knee, yeah, and
Speaker 1: I think I can understand that hurting him a little bit.
Speaker 1: Collins the foot, No, Collins, I'm sorry. Uh, Jonathan Williams Williams, Yeah, yeah, Collins.
Speaker 1: I thought I think he's overrated, but um yeah, Jonathan
Speaker 1: Williams Collins is overrated. Okay, you guys are gonna well,
Speaker 1: here's the here's the Texans. Let's go to their pick,
Speaker 1: Chimnast and Olympic hopeful Simon Biles. With the one nineteen
Speaker 1: pick and the twenty sixteen NFL draft, the Houston Texans
Speaker 1: select Tyler Irvin running back. All right, that's a Tyler Ribando.
Speaker 1: You got to watch the Auburn tape. You drapped him
Speaker 1: on the first round. Sure, I mean the kid has
Speaker 1: got some toughness, looking like Leonard Fournette. He could fly
Speaker 1: and uh this this guy was I'll tell you what,
Speaker 1: San Jose stay, he is tough. And this kid you
Speaker 1: don't worry about. He said, Oh he's a small back. No,
Speaker 1: he's got some size to him. This guy's got You
Speaker 1: might not have the height, he's explosive and he could,
Speaker 1: but he's a physical runner with the ball in his hands.
Speaker 1: Kudos to the Houston Texans because they paid brock Osweiler
Speaker 1: a pretty penny. Yeah, and they're doing everything they can
Speaker 1: to make sure that he's set up to succeed. I
Speaker 1: mean you got, I mean you already had new Hopkins
Speaker 1: in place. You get. Did they take on day one
Speaker 1: Fuller Yeah, uh no, they took They took Doxons. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they took Josh Doxon, they took Braxton Miller, Josh Dodson
Speaker 1: took with the Redskins, I thought, Houston, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Tyler Irvin, you know he's gonna help there. It is
Speaker 1: right there. Look at I mean a center who's going
Speaker 1: to help keep you clean, right and three dynamic playmakers
Speaker 1: who you can get the ball too. He leaves San
Speaker 1: Jose State with the record all purpose yardage. I mean,
Speaker 1: he just did a little bit of everything as a receiver.
Speaker 1: He had forty five catches as a senior. Tyler Irvan
Speaker 1: did and so I think he's gonna help on special
Speaker 1: teams in return. Man, he's gonna help it at at
Speaker 1: the backfield as a change of pace type of runner.
Speaker 1: He's a very good player. Yeah. And Tyler Irvin, he
Speaker 1: is now a Houston Texan that will put the Washington
Speaker 1: Redskins on the clock right now. I want to go
Speaker 1: back to this for a second though. Okay, we were
Speaker 1: talking about it before they picked. Irvin played Devil's advocate
Speaker 1: for a sec. I tell you can have Jalen Ramsey
Speaker 1: at four, and Kenneth Dixon and DeVante Booker look like
Speaker 1: decent bets that one of them will be there when
Speaker 1: you pick at one thirty five. I feel about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what. And I I loved Zeke Elliott, but
Speaker 1: I also loved Dixon too, And I don't know if
Speaker 1: there's something wrong. Okay, we gotta trade. The Redskins are
Speaker 1: gonna back out of this pick. It looks like unless
Speaker 1: I've gotten reading this wrong. Uh, they were on the
Speaker 1: clock at at at one twenty. And let's see if,
Speaker 1: in fact who owns this pick. Now, it looks like
Speaker 1: this pick is going to belong to the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 1: So let's see what David Hellman's hometown bunch will do.
Speaker 1: I actually, I mean they traded with the Pats last
Speaker 1: night to get up there and get Von Bell. I'd
Speaker 1: like everything they've done in this draft so far. I
Speaker 1: think Sheldon Rankins is a great player. I like Von
Speaker 1: Bell a lot. And they added and they added Michael Thomas. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Los Marcus Colston. We talked about they might want to
Speaker 1: get a big bodied receiver, while they went and got him, right. Uh,
Speaker 1: so that guy will I mean, Michael Thomas Brandon Cooks
Speaker 1: is a pretty pretty fun little combination. Signed kolbe Fleaner
Speaker 1: in free agency. Not a bad not a bad couple
Speaker 1: at Bell and uh Bell and rank and probably Day
Speaker 1: one starters. Yeah, absolutely absolutely so that that's pretty pretty
Speaker 1: nifty little draft they're having. Now. Okay, so again the
Speaker 1: Washington Redskins have moved this pick. It looks like it's
Speaker 1: in the hands of the New Orleans Saints as we've
Speaker 1: said this will be picked, uh, this fourth round pick
Speaker 1: number one twenty. Dave was talking about some of the
Speaker 1: things that the Saints were able to accomplish as this
Speaker 1: draft has has gone. You talk about you talk about,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe they draft Jalen Ramsey here and you
Speaker 1: have the combination of Ramsey and Byron Jones, Von Bell
Speaker 1: and Kenny Vacaro playing safety is not a bad little
Speaker 1: duo either, had they they have not addressed defensive line
Speaker 1: huh rank rankings as an inside player right as a tackle?
Speaker 1: And so I mean that Cam Jordan on the outside.
Speaker 1: Who else they have on the outside? Is anybody else?
Speaker 1: I mean that Jordan. That's what I need to I
Speaker 1: need to think about the dudes. Yeah, that's what I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about, Cam Jordan and then uh Richardson. Uh, let's
Speaker 1: see Barnes. Yeah, it's names, It really is names. It's
Speaker 1: it's just guys. Yeah. So I mean maybe that's the
Speaker 1: spot they go here. They made the picks. So yeah,
Speaker 1: well let's see the pick is in let's see in fact,
Speaker 1: what the Saints jumped up in here. They traded with
Speaker 1: the Red Skins, and uh, let's see if they address
Speaker 1: you talked about it. Yes, Well, when we had John
Speaker 1: about it just a little bit ago, about Jordan and
Speaker 1: maybe trying to find to get him some help you
Speaker 1: know with this. Uh, well, I'm and you know obvious,
Speaker 1: I'm from New Orleans. Everybody in my life as a
Speaker 1: Saints fan, so I'm a little more plugged into that
Speaker 1: team than most right, um, and on it. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know they drafted Michael Thomas, but defense is clearly
Speaker 1: the focus for this team. I mean, Drew Brees is
Speaker 1: going to make your offense go as long as he's healthy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The defense has been atrocious three of the last four years.
Speaker 1: Obviously got Rob Ryan run out of town. Yeah. Uh,
Speaker 1: the secondary hasn't been very good, so you get von Bell. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure they're hopeful that that Sheldon Rankins can
Speaker 1: come in and give them an interior pass rush. So
Speaker 1: I would not be surprised at all if an End
Speaker 1: is the pick here. Yeah, and Dan, do you have
Speaker 1: any available? I mean we we we we wore out Blair,
Speaker 1: someone we've talked about. We've talked about Odd Uh. Uh,
Speaker 1: We've talked about let's see Daddy Nicholas Uh Perkins, you're Dahn.
Speaker 1: We've talked about some guys. The Fanica kid from Utah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: from Utah, right there. I mean there's some names that
Speaker 1: we have have gone through, uh, you know as potential
Speaker 1: defensive ends. If if in fact, uh, that's what that
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints. Okay, so the Saints selection has
Speaker 1: been in. Uh, let's see in fact which direction they go.
Speaker 1: David your David on your manac. There we go, you man,
Speaker 1: that would be Manitoba. I love the story. He never
Speaker 1: played it down in football in his life until he
Speaker 1: went to Canada and he even planning on it. He
Speaker 1: was looking. He was lost on campus. Okay, this kid
Speaker 1: was lost on campus and he made his way to
Speaker 1: the football field trying and asked for directions, and the
Speaker 1: coach was like, well, why don't you come out for
Speaker 1: the team here, Yeah, why don't, Why don't you let's
Speaker 1: see what we can do with you. Hey, big guy, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're tall, drink of water, come out, come over here
Speaker 1: and see what we can do. So he did that.
Speaker 1: Next thing, you know, four years later hes getting drafted
Speaker 1: in the NFL. That's crazy act. And that's that's twice
Speaker 1: they've done that. And a little bit of a different story,
Speaker 1: but a Keem Hicks wound up in Canada a few
Speaker 1: years ago, right Saints took a chance on him, turned
Speaker 1: into a good enough player that they traded him to
Speaker 1: New England last year. So well, that's a nice story though,
Speaker 1: that really that's crazy. Yes, So the New or States
Speaker 1: we talked about potentially the need for a defensive end.
Speaker 1: Where did you have him in ranking to where you
Speaker 1: were looking at? Where about? I had him in the
Speaker 1: fifth or sixth round, so a little earlier than I
Speaker 1: would have taken him. But I get it. I mean
Speaker 1: the thing is the biggest worry with him is when
Speaker 1: is he going to be able to helped your team?
Speaker 1: Because this is guy, this guy is as raw as
Speaker 1: blue steak. I mean, he needs time, he needs developed
Speaker 1: and if you give him that time, I think where
Speaker 1: he could be three years from down the road is
Speaker 1: going to be very intriguing. But again we're talking down
Speaker 1: the road. He's not ready to help right away. Yeah,
Speaker 1: It's it's funny to watch him play in Canada. I
Speaker 1: mean it's different. You think everybody's moved off sides every
Speaker 1: play the way they're the way that they're they're the
Speaker 1: you know, the Canadian teams. He but I did I
Speaker 1: saw a guy that could extend on blockers. I saw
Speaker 1: a guy that could redirect, play the trap. He gets
Speaker 1: off blocks, uh, and he could finish. He looks he
Speaker 1: looks the part physically, he looks the part. So you
Speaker 1: probably have a little bit of a raw player right
Speaker 1: there that you're gonna, like you say, the blue steak
Speaker 1: type player that you're gonna have to figure out how
Speaker 1: to do. Okay, well, this will put the mint. Oh
Speaker 1: Willie Beavers. Willie Beavers is that? That's he is a
Speaker 1: senior Bowl guy four one twenty one that belongs to
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. Willie Beavers, Western Michigan. He is going to
Speaker 1: be with the Vikings right there, Dane some thoughts about
Speaker 1: Willie Beavers played left tackle, but a senior bullet movement
Speaker 1: inside to guard. I think he's a better guard, at
Speaker 1: least that's in my opinion. Looks like we got another
Speaker 1: pick here, right Okay, picks in for the sin said
Speaker 1: Bengals can't. Let's see if we can pull up the
Speaker 1: audio on this one. I don't think I have ever
Speaker 1: seen that Bengals mascot in my life. Remember, this is
Speaker 1: a team that has a real small scouting staff. Come
Speaker 1: to our beautiful Paul Brown Stadium and Cincinnati, OHIW. Coaches
Speaker 1: make picks here. Coaches make the picks here. Get ready,
Speaker 1: all right? Nice? I'm Dave Lapham, Bengals Alone, color analyst
Speaker 1: for the Cincinnati Bengals Radio network, to announce our next
Speaker 1: pick in the two sixteen NFL Draft. The Cincinnati Bengals
Speaker 1: would like to welcome our two sixteen draft picks, first
Speaker 1: and second round picks right here with us along with
Speaker 1: corporate partner Angie Britten and Joe Kelly, nineteen eighty six
Speaker 1: Bengals first round draft pick making fifty eight stars for
Speaker 1: the Bengals at linebacker from nineteen eighty six nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: nine to pick clues. With one hundred and twenty second
Speaker 1: pick in the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, that Cincinnati Bengals
Speaker 1: select Andrew Billings. There you go, Andrew Billings, the defensive
Speaker 1: tackle for from Baylor. His weight is over. He is
Speaker 1: now as Cincinnati Bengal longest. Wait. Yeah, it has to
Speaker 1: be a terrible, a terrible day for him. I mean again,
Speaker 1: we all believe that he was potentially a first second
Speaker 1: round type of a talent, and here he is at
Speaker 1: pick one twenty two. The reason, you know, I mentioned
Speaker 1: earlier about the Bengals have the smallest scouting staff in
Speaker 1: the league. It's a coach driven draft, and the coaches
Speaker 1: probably said, you know what, enough, let's just take this
Speaker 1: guy that's probably a best player on the board available
Speaker 1: right there. So, uh, Andrew Billings goes to the Sins
Speaker 1: and they've had a really nice history too of developing,
Speaker 1: but especially in the Mike Zimmer. You know that Jay
Speaker 1: hay I think Jay Hayes is still the defensive line
Speaker 1: coach there. If I'm wrong, I'm sorry about I know
Speaker 1: it's one of the Hayeses, but it seems like to me,
Speaker 1: the Bengals always kind of grab that they have an
Speaker 1: understanding these defensive linemen. They tend to work out and
Speaker 1: let's just remember that it does not matter, you know,
Speaker 1: once everyone shows up for training camp, it really doesn't
Speaker 1: matter if you were drafted in the fifth round, second round.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's go out in the field to perform.
Speaker 1: And if Andrew Billings goes out there and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: push us for a starting role and secures a spat
Speaker 1: on the roster, then it really doesn't matter where he
Speaker 1: went in the draft because you know he's gonna be
Speaker 1: the players, So I know this is tough for him.
Speaker 1: He might be a first round pick, he falls all
Speaker 1: the way to the fourth. But you know, if he
Speaker 1: use this as motivation, use this as a chance to
Speaker 1: you know, he's already a fiery he doesn't need it,
Speaker 1: but maybe he could use this for good. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna bother Andrew Billings that much.
Speaker 1: I'm just curious what what happened? What what happened with this? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then hopefully we will figure it out. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, Nick even who I trust more than anybody
Speaker 1: it comes to Baylor players. Yeah, because he's got the
Speaker 1: direct line, got the head coach's phone now, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: So it's just you know, and maybe you know, we
Speaker 1: have the audio down. I know Ian Rapp report from
Speaker 1: the NFL network is talking about he might have some
Speaker 1: information on what's going on there. We can't hear him,
Speaker 1: but usually you know, like last year, you remember Jay AGII, Right,
Speaker 1: we kind of heard the whispers like, oh it all
Speaker 1: might not be well, but we report says it's because
Speaker 1: he was a two down player. As wise value dropped.
Speaker 1: They're saying raculous to me, if yeah fall, if he goes,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've seen so, so is Jaren Reed.
Speaker 1: I mean he's a two down player. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: don't know. Again, the biggest thing I heard the doubts
Speaker 1: that some teams had with lack of instincts and the
Speaker 1: fact that he's so short that it takes him a
Speaker 1: little to find the ball. And so because of those reasons,
Speaker 1: he fell and he's not going to be a fit forever.
Speaker 1: Defense scheme specific. Okay, well, here's the Bears selection night.
Speaker 1: This could be one twenty four that they got from
Speaker 1: live from the Election Square in Grant Park. I'm a
Speaker 1: modern merrit former wide receiver for the Chicago Bears. Here
Speaker 1: to announce our next pick in the two thousand and
Speaker 1: sixty NFL Draft. The Chicago Bears elect to welcome coach
Speaker 1: Rich Blake and the members of the Junior Bears Youth
Speaker 1: Football League's Hamlin Park Lions Pittsburgh draft an LFW guy. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: we'll go back to that. There we go. With the
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty fourth the pick and the twenty
Speaker 1: sixteen NFL Draft, the Chicago Bears select Dan Bush, defensive back, Miami.
Speaker 1: All right, Dion Bush, the defensive back from the University
Speaker 1: of Miami. Dave, you brought it up before that at
Speaker 1: pick excuse me, at pick one twenty three, the Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: Steelers took Gerald Gerald Hawkins tackle from LSU, and now
Speaker 1: the Bears take Dion bushd he fits it back from
Speaker 1: the University of Miami. Uh. First the thought on Dave,
Speaker 1: you have a thought LSU, lum you talk about Hawkins,
Speaker 1: UM good, good player. Honestly, I was kind of surprised
Speaker 1: that he came out early. I mean, well, obviously he fell.
Speaker 1: He fell to the fourth round. Um replace lel. Collins
Speaker 1: at left tackle? Yeah, last year, and I think honestly
Speaker 1: he's probably the least athletic of the guys that they've
Speaker 1: had in that spot over the last long while. I
Speaker 1: mean LSU usually sends their left tackle to the NFL. UM.
Speaker 1: But I mean I don't I don't have a problem
Speaker 1: with it or anything like that. I think it's probably
Speaker 1: about where I would guess he would go on. Where
Speaker 1: did you think this is early for him? Or I
Speaker 1: had a late three early four? Yeah, So this is
Speaker 1: this is about where you know and tackles. We knew
Speaker 1: they were going to come off the board pretty quickly. Um.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's a for sure starter in
Speaker 1: this league, but I think he can be a spot starter,
Speaker 1: a guy that helps you with depth. Um, I wish
Speaker 1: you would have stayed for a se your years. Yeah
Speaker 1: that's and you know, hey, he got drafted, so he
Speaker 1: got paid. And you know, if you can get drafted,
Speaker 1: kudos to you. I don't ever hold it against a
Speaker 1: guy who goes early, but this is a guy who
Speaker 1: I mean, he could have uped his draft stock big
Speaker 1: time by coming back. And if you're not guaranteed to
Speaker 1: be a top sixty pick, I'm not convinced it's worth
Speaker 1: it to come out early. But he is a pro. Now, Okay,
Speaker 1: what the hell do I know? There we go, and
Speaker 1: any thoughts Dane about a Dion Bush not a fan.
Speaker 1: I mean, he'll come up and hit you. I just
Speaker 1: don't know. He's not an NFL starter in my opinion.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's just not reliable. He's deficient in
Speaker 1: pass coverage. He's always hunting as a run defender, and
Speaker 1: he fills the alley. He'll come up and hitch. That
Speaker 1: aggressive nature really pops off the tape. But I don't
Speaker 1: see instincts. I don't see awareness. The pursuit angles are
Speaker 1: all over the place. So I think he might be
Speaker 1: able to stick on special teams. But again I just
Speaker 1: don't see a future NFL starter here. Yeah, he is
Speaker 1: listening as to say, Okay, the Colts election is in
Speaker 1: right now. It is Antonio Morrison, the linebacker defensive in
Speaker 1: kind of a hybrid player or he's a middle linebacker.
Speaker 1: I think the other Florida player, yeah, Morrisons. I'm like,
Speaker 1: he's he's really talented in terms of talent, he's a
Speaker 1: top two round player. But this guy has had so
Speaker 1: many injuries, some knee stuff. But you talk to people
Speaker 1: at Florida, they just rave about this player he is.
Speaker 1: I mean, this get gets over used, first one in,
Speaker 1: last one out, but that's who this player is working
Speaker 1: on his injury. Were watching film. No one gets more
Speaker 1: out of his ability than Antonio Morrison. The big big
Speaker 1: question just the knees. Where are they because he's hurt
Speaker 1: both of them. He's had surgery on both his knees.
Speaker 1: Um if durable, if he if he's there's no injury questions.
Speaker 1: Antonio Morrison's the second round pick. Okay, and now Kansas
Speaker 1: City will be on the clock. Dave yet thought of something?
Speaker 1: Can I just be grumpy man for a second? I
Speaker 1: sound like Brian brought us, but like, hey, great, we're
Speaker 1: all doing great. We all know that you're you're the
Speaker 1: color analyst for the team making the pick and the
Speaker 1: big fan. Just yea, make the pick. You know we're
Speaker 1: all doing great. You've been a fan since nineteen sixty.
Speaker 1: Make the pick. We don't need it to take two
Speaker 1: and a half minutes. Just make the pick, all right,
Speaker 1: kand City Chief, You don't. Don't be grumpy man when
Speaker 1: you're fifty two years old. You could be grumpy when
Speaker 1: you're too young to be. When the Bengals guy introduced,
Speaker 1: like Dave Lappet is like my age. He grumpy guy,
Speaker 1: he introduced like three people before they made the make
Speaker 1: the pick. Come on, But well it's all about the production, Dave,
Speaker 1: you do. It's day three. This is for the nerds.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, here we go the Colts. The Colts. Uh,
Speaker 1: I guess we're gonna go one hundred and twenty fifty
Speaker 1: sixteen NFL Drafts. The Indianapolis Colts select Antonio Morrison, linebacker
Speaker 1: University of Blan talked about giant horse in the background. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they at the race make the pick. Yeah, they're at
Speaker 1: the five hundred there. That was Scott Dixon. The Colts
Speaker 1: mascot has fake snot that comes out of the Who's
Speaker 1: Scott Dixon is a championship indiecar driver. Can't wait to
Speaker 1: see Scott Dixon at the end of the Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: Ryan's driving to the Indie five. Scott Dixon's a first
Speaker 1: round pick in my book. By the way, the hell
Speaker 1: care Oh I got you gotta love you some Scott Dixon.
Speaker 1: Dan and I are gonna be watching football. Scott dixonty times. Hey,
Speaker 1: let me tell you what. Scott Dixon in the car
Speaker 1: can fly? Let me tell you that right now. Sure
Speaker 1: give me an engine. Scott Dixon get fly? All right? Well,
Speaker 1: that that was the the Colts pick we talked about.
Speaker 1: That That was Antonio Morrison. Kansas City is now on
Speaker 1: the clock. We're gonna go back to the Air Force
Speaker 1: base and see what the who. The A Chiefs select
Speaker 1: sixth pick and the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs select DeMarcus Robinson, wide receiver. All right,
Speaker 1: Dan all right, Dan Bruger, Well, we just talked about
Speaker 1: Antonio Morrison, a Florida guy who would have been a
Speaker 1: top fifty pick of healthy de Marcus Robinson been a
Speaker 1: top fifty pick if it wasn't such a knucklehead. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's the big issue here and the Chiefs taking
Speaker 1: a chance here in the fourth round because he's ultra talents.
Speaker 1: What do I talk about? This is my my criminal
Speaker 1: the criminal round. I'm not saying this guy's a criminal,
Speaker 1: but when you start talking about the knuckleheads, you're talking
Speaker 1: about four suspensions over Oh yeah, that would be a
Speaker 1: criminal round. I think a well, multiple failed drug failed
Speaker 1: drug tests. Yeah, he was suspended this past year for
Speaker 1: meeting with a marketing person accepting money. Just where's his
Speaker 1: head at? Is he truly invested in the game because
Speaker 1: there's so much ability here? But hey, at this point
Speaker 1: in the draft, fourth round, you take chances on guys
Speaker 1: like this, So I get the thinking here because if
Speaker 1: he if you can hone that talent and get him
Speaker 1: to stay focused. To Marcus Robinson's a darn good football play. Okay, Well, hey,
Speaker 1: we're at the bottom of the hour here, Central time,
Speaker 1: twelve thirty Central We're gonna take a couple minute break,
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Speaker 1: the corner pensitory picks. So we're gonna let you catch
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Speaker 1: This is continuing coverage of the twenty sixteen NFL Draft
Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot com. We're back here at the
Speaker 1: SWBC Mortgage Studios. Brian broad Us, Dame Burglar, David Hellman,
Speaker 1: Kent Garrison working with you today for the eighty first
Speaker 1: NFL Draft. It's the day of the scouts, I like
Speaker 1: to say, and Chicago Bears are currently on the clock.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the quick here to announce the next
Speaker 1: pick for the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft for
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. I'd like to welcome coach Jerry Google
Speaker 1: with the members of the Pop Water Bowling Bull Trojans
Speaker 1: with the one hundred and twenty seventh pick in the
Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft, the Chicago Bearts select
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hall d Benson back from Northern Ireland. All right,
Speaker 1: another senior Bowl guy, DeAndre Hall from Northern Iowa is
Speaker 1: the selection by the shot guy. It seemed like the
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears to just keep picking what Yeah, I know
Speaker 1: right that trading back in Yeah, I don't think they
Speaker 1: have any picks. I think they've given away some picks
Speaker 1: next year. I wasn't a fan of what they did
Speaker 1: in the first round with Leonard Floyd, but I really
Speaker 1: liked that they did in the second round. Trade backtrade
Speaker 1: backtrade back. Take Cody white Hair. Yeah. And then this
Speaker 1: is an interesting player because he's got arm laying his
Speaker 1: long arms make off of the lineman jealous. He is
Speaker 1: a rangy dude. Yeah he is. He's a four or
Speaker 1: five athlete, thirty four and a half inch arms and
Speaker 1: at six two, two hundred pounds. He's played corner, he's
Speaker 1: played rover, he's played safety. A leggy athlete, which would
Speaker 1: you expect with a six two player. Uh. The traits
Speaker 1: are what really entice you about this player, but it
Speaker 1: still has a long way to go. He's a height,
Speaker 1: length athlete, that type of guy, that profile really speaks
Speaker 1: well to NFL teams they want to develop that at
Speaker 1: his feet all over the place, doesn't routinely play under control.
Speaker 1: His anticipation needs work. So, uh, this is a guy
Speaker 1: you need to pop the hood and you know, rewire
Speaker 1: some stuff. But in terms of the rod trades, they're
Speaker 1: all there. Okay, the Arizona Cardinals are now on the clock.
Speaker 1: Look at that their team needs. We've talked about just
Speaker 1: going in we're the cornerback, a center, tackle combinations. Somehow
Speaker 1: they need to find a starting center according to what
Speaker 1: we think. And then and interior defensive lineman was another
Speaker 1: one that we talked about as well. So you know,
Speaker 1: we graded a lot of these centers, right. That's you know,
Speaker 1: we we haven't really talked about the center's position. We
Speaker 1: talked about it very early with Kelly, but we haven't
Speaker 1: talked about some of the other guys that might be
Speaker 1: ab We saw Nick Martin come off the board, see
Speaker 1: Amalo Max turk Um, but it's still Evan Baines on
Speaker 1: the board. Jack Allen Austin blythe So you said, bain
Speaker 1: I think he's that next guy. Well here we go,
Speaker 1: here we go. That was a need of their let's pickles.
Speaker 1: They got it. Cardinals player number eighty Thailand E Funny
Speaker 1: MoMA and just behind me is big red Flag football players.
Speaker 1: Just sixteen NFL drafts, the Arizona Cardinal selects Evan Bam.
Speaker 1: There you go, center Missouri. This is the next guy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just went to the need chart right there that
Speaker 1: every once in a while you're getting in this, uh,
Speaker 1: this area where you just say, okay, who's the best player.
Speaker 1: We have talked to some centers that have gone off
Speaker 1: the board. Talk about this young man from Missouri. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a player who I think he's probably a
Speaker 1: center only. Um and you know, I don't think he's
Speaker 1: going to give you much versatility as a guard or
Speaker 1: anything like that. But you know, six two, three hundred pounds,
Speaker 1: a little under size. But he he's a football lifer.
Speaker 1: That's who he is. He's he's committed to this game.
Speaker 1: Everything he does, every decision he makes, centers around his
Speaker 1: love for football. He's a leader. I think he's going
Speaker 1: to really fit well in that locker room in Arizona.
Speaker 1: A type of guy that Bruce arians is going to love.
Speaker 1: But again, he is a little undersize. He has some
Speaker 1: physical limitations, but he gets the most out of his ability,
Speaker 1: So I think he can be you know, at worst,
Speaker 1: you're talking about a solid rotational guy, right, But I
Speaker 1: do think he has starting potential. Yeah, you know, and
Speaker 1: Steve Kin, I think they do a great job there
Speaker 1: in Arizona. Terry McDonaghs sitting right there as I look
Speaker 1: at the screen, a guy work with in NFL Europe
Speaker 1: as well, some really smart personnel. Guys love the head
Speaker 1: coach there as well. You know what, and I'm sorry
Speaker 1: for interrupting you, but that's a team that I consider
Speaker 1: a threat to take a quarterback that the Cowboys like.
Speaker 1: I mean, Carson Palmer's thirty seven years old. That's you know,
Speaker 1: they were rumored to be interested in a guy at
Speaker 1: twenty nine. Well, we're getting close to that Cowboy pick.
Speaker 1: And that's so I'm looking at it right now. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, as it stands right now, you've got Cleveland,
Speaker 1: Green Bay, Baltimore, San Francisco. Baltimore that picks before Dallas
Speaker 1: San Francisco is probably the only one that I would
Speaker 1: consider a to one a quarterback. Well, if you could
Speaker 1: get through, if you could just get through this pick
Speaker 1: at Baltimore's about to make, then you're into compensatories and
Speaker 1: then it's nobody could trade. Yeah. So I mean, and
Speaker 1: you know, no, it's and it's not your fault. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just you just got to get through this pick.
Speaker 1: I mean you got to get through this pick. Okay.
Speaker 1: Derek Kindred, there we go and we were his pro
Speaker 1: day at TCU. They rave about this kid, a Dane
Speaker 1: and they loved he played with a collar bone problem
Speaker 1: the entire year, didn't come out. He was the practice day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he took that. I mean, he didn't take
Speaker 1: the spotlight away from Dockxon. Obviously Doxon went the first round.
Speaker 1: But that's the guy that they all wanted. They loved.
Speaker 1: They absolutely loved this player. And and uh, you know
Speaker 1: that's the toughness all this Cleveland gets a player. I
Speaker 1: feel like when you watch him on tape, he is
Speaker 1: a physical player. He can cover, he could run. He's
Speaker 1: got some ability to him though. And and I like
Speaker 1: I said to it to a man, I I walked
Speaker 1: around that facility there and and every guy that came
Speaker 1: up to me said something about him and the toughness
Speaker 1: and keep an eye on him. So, uh, congratulations to
Speaker 1: him going in the in the fourth round. I had
Speaker 1: him in the third round myself, so congratulations to him
Speaker 1: as well. Okay, uh, we talked about, uh, the the
Speaker 1: Ravens now own this pick. Uh it's uh, it looks
Speaker 1: like it is in but let's see, let's talk about
Speaker 1: now if Dallas can get through this one, the teams
Speaker 1: that are head, if they're in fact, if we saw
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett working on quarterback, actually throwing the football, say
Speaker 1: it just because of the pick can't be traded, but
Speaker 1: the San Francisco could one of the mind field is
Speaker 1: right there. That that that that is the one. If
Speaker 1: I'm the if I'm in that room and I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: who's the team that could take a quarterback in front
Speaker 1: of you? Sanford sitting there at one thirty three, Dallas
Speaker 1: is sitting there at one thirty five. That appears to
Speaker 1: be the only mindfield. Now again, the Packers are team
Speaker 1: that traditionally they'll take quarterbacks just okay, but but they
Speaker 1: they they every year, it seems they take a quarterback
Speaker 1: in New England. Well, but the problem with that is, though,
Speaker 1: and it was explained to me Tom Brady is about
Speaker 1: to be suspended for four games, they don't have any
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks so they had to do something, right is
Speaker 1: Baltimore threat? I mean, I know they got Flacco. What
Speaker 1: do they have behind him? Well, if you look at that,
Speaker 1: I think San Francisco is the biggest threat right there.
Speaker 1: And uh but let's see. Heck, if you think that
Speaker 1: way right now, they might make you sweat this pick
Speaker 1: right here. I am jealous of Baltimore's hall of picks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got they well they had them all. And it
Speaker 1: looks like Alex Lewis. Alex Lewis is in so uh
Speaker 1: that right there, the Nebraska offensive tackle. Okay, now we're
Speaker 1: in the compensatory mode. Green Bay up this scene. You
Speaker 1: know Teddy Thompson, Teddy Thompson is a he's a pack
Speaker 1: twelve guy. He's gonna take a pack. He talked about Hunley. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a pack twelve something. Seas whoever, whoever's your best
Speaker 1: pack twelve player on this board is well enough for
Speaker 1: him with Aaron Rodgers, Yeah, well, whoever your whoever your
Speaker 1: best pack twelve players on this board. And we talked
Speaker 1: about Westerman, I mean he was Arizona State. Uh Martinez
Speaker 1: uh is on that board, Lawlor the receiver from cal
Speaker 1: I just have a feeling that we might see that's
Speaker 1: ted I worked with Teddy for a long time. That's him.
Speaker 1: He could use a linebacker though. Yeah, that's something that
Speaker 1: we've talked about. They wanted they they've shuffled some guys
Speaker 1: around it. It's a Facral right earlier. They did take Facul,
Speaker 1: but they play him as an outside linebacker. Brothers Martinez,
Speaker 1: I mean, if you talk like Martinez, yeah still there, Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: So let's uh uh they're they're in, They're they're excited
Speaker 1: there in the Elliott Wolf just gave the fist bump
Speaker 1: to Teddy Thompson. So they got the guys that they
Speaker 1: wanted the picks in. But he loves at Pack twelve.
Speaker 1: He loves linebackers too. He took the Factral kid to
Speaker 1: play him on the outside. Martinez makes sense here because
Speaker 1: he's an inside linebacker. Brothers would be Okay, who's this
Speaker 1: is this? Sixty minutes? What's going on over here with
Speaker 1: the Pick their Kid collection from lambeau Field Jerry Craford
Speaker 1: Packer Hall of Fame. I'm actually setting in Coach Lombardi's office,
Speaker 1: at Coach Lombardi's desk that they removed from his office
Speaker 1: and put in the Hall of Fame with his memorabilia.
Speaker 1: And I think I've never been quite so uncomfortable at
Speaker 1: a desk because I am at Coach Lombardi's desk. I've
Speaker 1: had some moments on the other side of the desk
Speaker 1: that weren't so comfortable either, But it's a pleasure being
Speaker 1: here with you. And with one hundred and thirty first
Speaker 1: pick of the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft, the
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers select Blake Martinez. There you go, Teddy Stanford,
Speaker 1: I know you like a book. Teddy Thompson, Oh you
Speaker 1: were him back? Yeah, the war room cam is back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: warreomcam is back up. Jason, show me some three step
Speaker 1: drops and so here we go Blake Martinez. I like
Speaker 1: Blake Martinez. I like this pick. I think this guy
Speaker 1: he's always around the football. He's uh, he's always finishing plays.
Speaker 1: He's aggressive, he attacks the line of scrimmage, he has
Speaker 1: a tone set. I had him in the third round.
Speaker 1: I I just thought, like I said, Teddy's one of
Speaker 1: those guys you could read him like a book. So
Speaker 1: this is my favorite stat with Blake Martinez is he
Speaker 1: had eighty four more tackles than anyone else in the team. Last. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go. Eighty four more tackles and the second
Speaker 1: leading tackler on Stanford. That's unbelievable. It's a stat right there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that is to say, Okay, Baltimore is back on
Speaker 1: the clock. Here, we're looking at war room cam. Uh.
Speaker 1: Jerry is not in the room. Stephen is in the room. Uh.
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett is going thumbing through his Uh. I'm looking
Speaker 1: for I'm looking for a coach who can tip me off,
Speaker 1: and I don't see one. I see Walter Jueliff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a quarterback guy. Walter's actually offensive line excuse me, yeah,
Speaker 1: offensive line guys. So let's see if in fact that
Speaker 1: they're gonna Chris Hall is on the phone there in
Speaker 1: the bottom ride of your screen. He is on with
Speaker 1: a Robert Blackwell, who is uh in uh in Chicago.
Speaker 1: The Ravens pick is up. Can't let's hear who? They
Speaker 1: start to announce the next pick in the twenty sixteen
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, The Baltimore Ravens welcome back defensive back Dwayne Starks,
Speaker 1: who has the pick with one hundred and thirty second
Speaker 1: pick in the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft, the
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens select Willie Henry. Willie Henry Michigan. All right,
Speaker 1: Willie Henry is a Baltimore raven. It's funny here to
Speaker 1: see that I wasn't as high. Got another line, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wasn't high on Willy Ny. Where do you play
Speaker 1: Willie Henry? And you have an idea what we're gonna play?
Speaker 1: Will you hear the scorn dripping from Dane's voice right there?
Speaker 1: I was being very supportive, Sure you were. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: I don't know. Is he an end? Do? Is he
Speaker 1: a tackle? Yeah? You're going to Baltimore. They play mostly
Speaker 1: three four bass, right, you know? Is he gonna be
Speaker 1: a five technique? That's probably I think. I think his
Speaker 1: best spot will be at five tech. Yeah, And this
Speaker 1: is a guy when he gets moving off that line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, he gets that first step, he can convert
Speaker 1: that first step to power and get some create some movement.
Speaker 1: That's when he can be most effective. But he moves.
Speaker 1: He can move pretty well for a size. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think so. Sorry, j Jerry at the table, get him
Speaker 1: a bite to eat there, a big sweet tea working
Speaker 1: in front him there, and got some chown down. I
Speaker 1: wonder if he's got a little piece of catfish or
Speaker 1: something working there. Eddie Dean or find A provides our
Speaker 1: meals out there and as we work through the day here, okay,
Speaker 1: um Willie Henry Baltimore Ravens. That would put the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers on the clock. Again, these picks cannot be traded,
Speaker 1: so San Francisco's gonna have to stand in there and
Speaker 1: make a pick um. A lot of good cornerbacks on
Speaker 1: this board. We've talked about a bunch of name a
Speaker 1: bunch of different names of guys with Brown Elliott Mills
Speaker 1: was a guy. This is our criminal round. Uh. We
Speaker 1: talked about some guys, how about the train wreck and
Speaker 1: or Robinson Sean Robinson Robinson very talented guy. But if
Speaker 1: this is gonna be the round, I mean, Francisco's never
Speaker 1: been afraid to take. And so that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And with with with Trent Balky as a general manager there,
Speaker 1: I just think like though the secondary to me looks
Speaker 1: like the way that you go. They might go offensive
Speaker 1: line here, but uh, you know, let's see what direction
Speaker 1: and real quick, uh, player. We didn't get to talk
Speaker 1: about Alex Lewis off the tackle that was drafted by Baltimore. Um,
Speaker 1: if he didn't have all these problems with kind of
Speaker 1: his maturity and off the field, I think he would
Speaker 1: have went higher than this because he's a darn good player.
Speaker 1: I played left tackle in Nebraska Colorado transfer. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I had some had some off the field issues. And
Speaker 1: so as long as he can stay focused and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, not let his emotions get the best of him,
Speaker 1: he can start in this league. Okay, So we're waiting
Speaker 1: on the forty nine ers pick. It is, in fact
Speaker 1: in that is pick one thirty three. Again, competitory picks
Speaker 1: cannot be traded. Uh, as far as best available players,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at these. I got a bunch of running
Speaker 1: backs sitting up there that are waiting. I'm waiting for
Speaker 1: a defensive end to be selected. Uh, there's some cornerbacks
Speaker 1: still on this board. Uh, let's see who the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers pick. Again, it's pick four, round four, one
Speaker 1: thirty three, and uh, they we're waiting for Richard Robins LSU.
Speaker 1: There you go, my criminal round. That's uh, that feels early,
Speaker 1: but I mean, you know what though, but that's kind
Speaker 1: of this is a box player for a lot of teams.
Speaker 1: Yeahh a guy that they would not even consider drafting.
Speaker 1: But uh, you know he's he's a twig. He's very
Speaker 1: thin and doesn't have you know, bulk that you want,
Speaker 1: hasn't played in a long time because of his issues
Speaker 1: get on the field. Accountability is a strong concern with
Speaker 1: this one. So, uh, you know, if he can, if
Speaker 1: he can can get turn things around and get his
Speaker 1: life on track and staff focused on football, then you
Speaker 1: know this is a steal at this point. But that's
Speaker 1: a that's a big if. Yeah, well, we'll see in
Speaker 1: fact where how he plays out. Baltimore is now on
Speaker 1: the clock. Uh, we'll see who last pick before the Yeah,
Speaker 1: last pick for the Cowboys. And look at war room.
Speaker 1: Can they're passing the phone rounds, so they have an
Speaker 1: idea of what player they're talking to that play right now.
Speaker 1: They're talking to that player right now, so we will
Speaker 1: see who in fact that player is. Uh, you have
Speaker 1: any idea, I mean we we we said that Baltimore
Speaker 1: might be a team that could take a quarterback ahead
Speaker 1: of them. Are you worried a little bit about if
Speaker 1: you're Cowboy fans right now, Well, look who's talking on
Speaker 1: the phone. Right now. Okay, there, that's a pretty good idea.
Speaker 1: All right, So let's let's speculate here. Uh, I'm gonna quarterback. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's go ahead and speculate here. Dak Prescott. Hands are
Speaker 1: all handshakes all around. It's Dak Prescott. They did a
Speaker 1: lot of work on. They did more work on Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott than any other uh player. Yeah, and so uh
Speaker 1: if they feel like against the Ravens pick it might
Speaker 1: be already in. And uh, I'm gonna speculate my guys here, August,
Speaker 1: let's talk about Dak Prescott a little bit then if
Speaker 1: if need be. When H. Kenneth Dixon just went off
Speaker 1: the ball, Okay, yeah, there you go, Kenneth Dixon to
Speaker 1: the Ravens and so again, compensatory picks flying out the board.
Speaker 1: Kenneth Dixon, somebody we said might want a running back
Speaker 1: with Justin Forsett. I know. I mean, there's this confusion
Speaker 1: all day yesterday about whether the Ravens actually wanted Ezekiel Elliott. H.
Speaker 1: Kenneth Dixon's not a bad console. Okay, just looking at
Speaker 1: war room cam right now with Scott Lenahan on the phone,
Speaker 1: we're gonna say Dak Prescott. We're gonna call it Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott was gonna be the pick for the Cowboys here.
Speaker 1: Uh if if they did not taken a Zekiel Elot
Speaker 1: maybe this was a running back. We talked about Dixon, Booker,
Speaker 1: those guys, but it looks like that they call that
Speaker 1: a coup if this is Dak. Yeah, because this is
Speaker 1: a guy that we mocked to them at sixty seven. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely so we thought at some point in time it
Speaker 1: is hand looks pumped. Yeah, everybody's shaking hands. So good
Speaker 1: for h good for them in fact, if that's the pick. So, uh,
Speaker 1: we're still waiting for the We we got the Ravens pick,
Speaker 1: which was Dixon, and we're now about to get the
Speaker 1: Cowboys pick again. This is fourth round pick one thirty five.
Speaker 1: On all the build up that we had going into
Speaker 1: the on the draft show, we started talking about fourth
Speaker 1: round corner quarterbacks yea, and where they take one at
Speaker 1: one on one, would they take one at one thirty five?
Speaker 1: It looks like at one thirty five we're gonna get
Speaker 1: the pick here of Dak Prescott. U in their war
Speaker 1: room again, everybody shaking hands and uh so your thoughts
Speaker 1: on the pick there, Dane. In fact, if that's the case,
Speaker 1: on see it's you gotta I love the pick. That's
Speaker 1: what it is. I point the draft this might be
Speaker 1: when you talk about like value and player and everything,
Speaker 1: it might be the best one they've made so far. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like Dak more than any of the other non
Speaker 1: first round quarterbacks that have gone. Yeah, that to me,
Speaker 1: it was in the in the fourth round quarterbacks, it
Speaker 1: was Cook, Prescott and Alan. We had Cook go earlier
Speaker 1: in the day. Prescott would be the next one on
Speaker 1: my board. And so hopefully here's the announcement. So let's
Speaker 1: get to it. KNT get the Pro Football Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame and also the Ring of Honor. I'm here to
Speaker 1: have to douce. I'm next announ sir mister John Trevino
Speaker 1: of Muno Telemulo Muno Company here in Dallas. And fourth,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, mister. Right with with Telemundo, I'm
Speaker 1: happy to present in the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, our
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys select Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott. Funny, it's funny.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it really is as obvious as it seems like
Speaker 1: it's written on the wall. You know. Yeah, we knew
Speaker 1: they liked Dak at the Senior Bowls. They met with
Speaker 1: him there, right, they met with him at the Combine.
Speaker 1: They've worked him out. Um. Wade Wilson has worked with
Speaker 1: him a lot over this draft process. He said, the
Speaker 1: Cowboys kind of gave him an idea of where they
Speaker 1: were looking at him. If you think back to I
Speaker 1: think February when he was talking to the media, Yeah,
Speaker 1: at the Combined media availability, right, he said, Wade Wilson
Speaker 1: kind of gave him a sketch of where they were
Speaker 1: thinking about taking them, and sure enough, they weighed around
Speaker 1: and get their guy. Honestly, I would have I would
Speaker 1: have celebrated this pick at sixty seven and they get it,
Speaker 1: you know, almost two rounds later. I think it's a
Speaker 1: great pick. What about it, Dame? I thought he really
Speaker 1: you know, in twenty fourteen as a junior, we really
Speaker 1: heard about Dak Prescott as a Heisman contender. Okay, but
Speaker 1: this past year he really grew from a thrower into
Speaker 1: a passer. Uh. He was a different player. He was
Speaker 1: a much more accurate player. Uh, you know, the way
Speaker 1: he saw the field I thought improved. He didn't rely
Speaker 1: on his legs as much. But when he did look
Speaker 1: to run, He'll run over you. He's a tough guy.
Speaker 1: But the reason you love Dak Prescott so much is
Speaker 1: the leadership, his poise, his intangibles. He did have the
Speaker 1: DUI during the draft process and that was very uncharacteristic.
Speaker 1: But with Dak Presscott, he's an excellent addition to the
Speaker 1: quarterback room. Yeah and uh and I mean no, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I just you know, I've talked plenty about Cardell Jones,
Speaker 1: but this is, honestly, it's a better it's a better scenario.
Speaker 1: It's you're talking a very seasoned, experienced player. Dane mentioned
Speaker 1: his his maturity, his leadership, his locker room presence. This guy,
Speaker 1: if you think about it, reset the standard for football
Speaker 1: at Mississippi State. An I mean, that was the program
Speaker 1: where six wins was something to celebrate. He got him
Speaker 1: into the playoff discussion. He took them to the BCS.
Speaker 1: This guy like skied down a hill. Make the pick,
Speaker 1: Jake Plummer, make the pick. In the twenty sixteen NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: but one hundred and thirty sixth pick, the Denver Broncos
Speaker 1: select DeVante Booker, running back out of you. Here we go,
Speaker 1: calling off the board yall. It took was Kennedy Dixon
Speaker 1: running off the board. So now we have uh, we
Speaker 1: now have a Dixon off Booker off, so that takes
Speaker 1: care of those second round running backs. Uh, I too,
Speaker 1: am uh I too. I do like to pick a
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott here. I do. I see a guy though
Speaker 1: that on the move, throws the ball very well, especially
Speaker 1: going to his left. I've seen it come back to
Speaker 1: his second receiver. Uh. You know, I think he tends
Speaker 1: to lock onto guys, and you know that's that's something
Speaker 1: that you can work with him. There was a lot
Speaker 1: of times in mississipp State where I didn't think he
Speaker 1: got a whole hell of a lot of help. You know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was there. There was some times where it was
Speaker 1: all about him and he had to make those plays.
Speaker 1: But I will say this though, his physical traits are
Speaker 1: outstanding in his sense of urgency, need to see that
Speaker 1: a little bit better with hiall a little too long,
Speaker 1: hold the ball a little bit too long. But there's
Speaker 1: so much things to work with with him in and
Speaker 1: out of the pocket. Though, I do I'm happy for
Speaker 1: them to make this pick because of where I felt
Speaker 1: liked again him. Connor Cook Allan or all those guys
Speaker 1: I had right there in the fourth round. There are
Speaker 1: four players in FBS history they have thrown for seventy
Speaker 1: touchdowns over career and rushed for forty touchdowns over career.
Speaker 1: He's one of them. I mean, he's one of the
Speaker 1: most prolific passers to ever come out of the SEC. Know,
Speaker 1: broke every single record at Mississippi State. He just makes
Speaker 1: everyone around you better. And to me, that's why you know,
Speaker 1: that's what I look from a quarterback, And do you
Speaker 1: elevate the play of everyone around you? And I think
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott does. Yeah. Rowan Kavner, old co worker of
Speaker 1: ours and friend of the program. He wants to know
Speaker 1: how feel about Prescott at the point of a Dak,
Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty good. We were always with rowing.
Speaker 1: It's a game with you guys, isn't it right? Oh?
Speaker 1: It always is. Um another another point that I think
Speaker 1: is worth bringing. Actually two points. I want to well,
Speaker 1: I want to ask you one. But first of all,
Speaker 1: let's talk about the fact that the Cowboys have now
Speaker 1: made what's that four? Have they made four picks? Four picks? Yes?
Speaker 1: Or five? No? Five? Yeah? And the vast majority of
Speaker 1: them have that like boy scout type of face of
Speaker 1: the franchise, reputation, no question marks off the field or on.
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith comes to mind. You saw Jason Garrett beaming
Speaker 1: about drafting him. Dak Prescott again. I mean, he's going
Speaker 1: to be the face associated with Mississippi State football for
Speaker 1: a long time to come. And then Zeke Elliott, who
Speaker 1: you know, nothing really to worry about off the field
Speaker 1: in addition to being one of the elite talents. I
Speaker 1: wonder if that's a reaction to things that they did
Speaker 1: last year. Obviously, the Randy Gregory pick right kind of
Speaker 1: blew up in their face a little bit. Greg Hardy
Speaker 1: clearly failed to work out the way they wanted it to.
Speaker 1: He saw it a little bit with Byron Jones last year,
Speaker 1: and it's kind of a trend that's developed here too.
Speaker 1: Boy scouts who are pretty good at football. Yeah, let
Speaker 1: me ask you, okay. And by the way, Green Bay
Speaker 1: at one thirty seven took Dean Lowry, the defensive end
Speaker 1: for Northwestern, So green Bay pick one thirty seventeen. Lowry,
Speaker 1: do you see Denk Prescott as a future NFL starter?
Speaker 1: Is it? Do you think he is that type of player?
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, I don't see traits that would
Speaker 1: lead me to not believe he wouldn't be a future starter.
Speaker 1: I mean I think that, you know, if if he
Speaker 1: could work on the things that we talked about, the
Speaker 1: sense of urgency of getting rid of the football and
Speaker 1: a lot of it again might be because of his teammates,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe he doesn't have to trust in the
Speaker 1: Maybe he doesn't you know, maybe he was trying to
Speaker 1: find a way. Hey, I almost have to be perfect
Speaker 1: with these guys. I like the physical traits of this player,
Speaker 1: you know, and especial the league. We have to have mobility.
Speaker 1: You have to be able to buy time. You know,
Speaker 1: he's got a little bit of an overhand throwing motion too.
Speaker 1: They got to tighten him up on some stuff. Doesn't
Speaker 1: it kind of help you? Maybe one explain what Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett was doing exactly, trying to talk about that over
Speaker 1: the top of the throwing motion, shuttle, I mean with
Speaker 1: Tim Tebow to him. Oh yeah, in that respect, throw
Speaker 1: us the ball better he does. He's yeah, exactly, but
Speaker 1: he is definite, there's no question. But definitely need some
Speaker 1: mechanical corps. Yeah, he will need that. And you know,
Speaker 1: but that's what they'll do, hopefully that they'll come in here,
Speaker 1: tighten up the throwing motion and then find a way
Speaker 1: to uh to get it down obviously. Okay, Princeton, I'd
Speaker 1: tell you what Cleveland's got. All those IVY League guys
Speaker 1: in that front office now a lott of Harvard, and
Speaker 1: they just took an IVY League IVY league dude that, uh,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna find him in my book, I set
Speaker 1: say the bill the valve, the valve wide receiver from Princes. Well,
Speaker 1: they list him is a tight end sept the valve
Speaker 1: right in Princeton. He goes to pick four one thirty eight,
Speaker 1: the compensatory pick to the Browns, seth de Valve and
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be He's not the beast. No, this
Speaker 1: is not a player I wrote up, but uh, he
Speaker 1: his name did come up at some points during the
Speaker 1: during the process. But this is not a player that
Speaker 1: I watched tape on. So you didn't break down any
Speaker 1: you didn't break down any Princeton, not not this player.
Speaker 1: But I did see his name a couple of times. Uh,
Speaker 1: A few teams did work come out so right, But
Speaker 1: a little surprise to see him come off here in
Speaker 1: the fourth Yeah, so Seth de valve uh is it
Speaker 1: goes to the Cleveland Browns. It pick one thirty Can
Speaker 1: I be? Can I be Cowboys nerd? And bring you
Speaker 1: back to the Cowboys for a second. Let me just
Speaker 1: finish something real quick. Yeah, this is gonna We're gonna
Speaker 1: finish the fourth round here. If you remember, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: do not have a fifth round selection, so the Bill's
Speaker 1: making the pick will be the final uh pick in
Speaker 1: the fourth round. It's a compensatory pick. Some good players there.
Speaker 1: Look at Dixon, Prescott, Booker the last five pick. I mean,
Speaker 1: think about that, bang bang bang right there. Some guys
Speaker 1: two second round picks on my board, and in a
Speaker 1: fourth round pick as well. So we go to the
Speaker 1: Bills to finish this, to finish this round out and
Speaker 1: then we get into some some fourth round picks. Do
Speaker 1: you feel better about the direction though? The Cowboys what
Speaker 1: they did at one on one and one thirty five.
Speaker 1: I like them both a lot. I like both of
Speaker 1: the things they did today so far, and obviously they
Speaker 1: have plenty more picks to go right. But you get
Speaker 1: a big pass rusher again, you know, does he work out?
Speaker 1: Who knows he's pick one on one. But I like
Speaker 1: the measurables that Charles Tapper brings to the table. It
Speaker 1: was clearly a position everybody was worried about addressing. They got.
Speaker 1: They have two basically top one hundred picks on the
Speaker 1: defensive line. Now in addition to the guys they already had, right,
Speaker 1: and you get, honestly, one of the better options at
Speaker 1: quarterback outside of the number one and number two pick.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the Bills. Get at one
Speaker 1: thirty five. Let's go the Bills. You're gonna f bill.
Speaker 1: I'm here along with season ticket holder Andrew Crozier here
Speaker 1: at the seven one six in downtown Buffalo to make
Speaker 1: the fourth round selection for the Buffalo Bills. Andrew Crozier
Speaker 1: make the pick. With one hundred and thirty ninth pick
Speaker 1: in the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft, the Buffalo
Speaker 1: Bills select Cardell Jones quarterback. Oh damn Hellman, you got it, Rex,
Speaker 1: you know what's up. They took all those defensive players,
Speaker 1: and finally David Hellman stood up on a table and said, enough,
Speaker 1: Cardinal Jones. This man right here, this man is he's
Speaker 1: gonna do things. He's gonna do things now. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys got Dak and that's fine. Dak will be great.
Speaker 1: Dak's a more polish passer. Eleven games. How about him
Speaker 1: standing up here eleven games? I think he's Jesus excited
Speaker 1: that the twelfth buck guys off the off. That is
Speaker 1: the twelfth buck eye off the board. I hired Cardale
Speaker 1: at one point and in one of my seven round
Speaker 1: moks going to Buffalo in the second round. So I
Speaker 1: do like the fit in terms of where he's headed.
Speaker 1: Uh not, gonna be press an action from day one?
Speaker 1: Can you kind of learn and grow and you know,
Speaker 1: can be a backup because that's what he is and
Speaker 1: that's what he needs to be right now until everything
Speaker 1: else else catches up. But it should be interesting to
Speaker 1: see how he does. Okay, so we're now going to
Speaker 1: do great Dane. We're now into the We're now into
Speaker 1: the eleven Games. Fifth round, fan, I have the draft.
Speaker 1: Lets you guys don't care. He's gonna be go No,
Speaker 1: we care, we care. I'm just trying to get this
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Speaker 1: little break when we come back. Dallas does not have
Speaker 1: a fifth round selection. So what I want to do.
Speaker 1: If Ken's okay with that, maybe take some calls if
Speaker 1: you're out there eight eight eight eight five five two
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Speaker 1: David Hillman, Brian Broadest, Dame Brugler, Kent Garrison, Executive producing Um.
Speaker 1: We're into the fifth round right now. Tennessee Titans have
Speaker 1: taken Taja Sharp, wide receiver from U Mass. Kind of
Speaker 1: a guy that we thought about might be going a
Speaker 1: little bit sooner than that. I know. I liked him,
Speaker 1: probably a little bit more than you did right there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a seventh round grade on smaller hands. Um, but he
Speaker 1: does catch everything that it comes his way. Okay, we
Speaker 1: do have a pick right in with forty forty nine,
Speaker 1: and we'll get to Carolina made a pick before the
Speaker 1: forty Knights. But I want to get to this, uh
Speaker 1: San Francisco pick. I'm interested to see who they draft
Speaker 1: here at one forty two here, no, now, it's our
Speaker 1: next pick for the twenty sixteen NFL Draft. The San
Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers would like to welcome I, um, same,
Speaker 1: make the pick forty nine ers, like when the hundred
Speaker 1: forty second pick in the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, the
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine ers select Ronald Blair. Here we
Speaker 1: go Appalachians State. Okay, look at Daniel. They got Daniel
Speaker 1: Jeremiah and he must have called the pick right there,
Speaker 1: but he probably had Ronald Blair up there like the
Speaker 1: rest of us. Did you know, as in this class. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Ronald Blair, uh defensive in Appalachian State. I really
Speaker 1: liked it. Six two, two hundred and eighty four pounds.
Speaker 1: He was a guy that I had, I know in
Speaker 1: our one oh five three board had him in the
Speaker 1: third round. So here he goes at the top of
Speaker 1: the fifth. Uh. I'm very anxious to see how he
Speaker 1: pans out for Daniel. Oh, I know what the connection
Speaker 1: is for Daniel Jeremi App State. There you go, so
Speaker 1: good for Daniel Jeremiah. Ask you a question, sure the draft,
Speaker 1: the guy out of app State. How did you feel
Speaker 1: about somebody from Entree State? You know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got you what you say? Hey, you're hey, You're sorry.
Speaker 1: All really, I'm really pumped about the pun possibilities. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're you're working very hard right now on these puns.
Speaker 1: I know. All right, here we go. Uh, Zack Sanchez
Speaker 1: went to the Carolina Panthers talk about Zack Sanche Christian.
Speaker 1: Yeah again another one of these big twelve corners that
Speaker 1: it's feast for famine, right, Uh, play off. There there
Speaker 1: were times when we were Zack chant Zach Sanchez on
Speaker 1: tape when he never even you know, from the start
Speaker 1: of the route to the completion of the catch, never
Speaker 1: came within ten yards of the of the receiver, right,
Speaker 1: he just he guarded against that speed. Wanted to be
Speaker 1: you know, bait those throws and pick off throws. But
Speaker 1: I don't know. He needs a lot of work, but
Speaker 1: he knows how to uh find the football and make interceptions.
Speaker 1: A former wide receiver. Okay, this is the Raiders are
Speaker 1: on the clock right now, their picks in. This is
Speaker 1: the pick that the Dallas Cowboys owned. This would be
Speaker 1: the Cowboys pick one three. But when we did we
Speaker 1: did the Yes, this is Brycepeller when we made the
Speaker 1: when I do it our mock trafts, we were trying
Speaker 1: to get this pick back. Yeah. When we were doing
Speaker 1: the draft show, guys that were on the board, we
Speaker 1: talked about Higgins was a guy they visit. Lawlor was
Speaker 1: a guy that you know, we've talked about lists of
Speaker 1: b the wide receiver that there's some there were some
Speaker 1: options there, but we'll see that. Okay, ken't We'll talk
Speaker 1: about the Raider pick when they make it. KNT Garrison's
Speaker 1: got some calls lined up. Guys, We're all doing great.
Speaker 1: Happy Draft day to y'all and Kent. Who do you got?
Speaker 1: We'll start with Michael and san Antonio. Go ahead, Michael, Hi, guys,
Speaker 1: um what I love about when y'all have to do
Speaker 1: the draft, as y'all compared drafts fire draft to this
Speaker 1: draft class. So that's my question. Can you flip blof
Speaker 1: the draft picks, um we are, would a Byron Smith
Speaker 1: or players we took last year have gone in this draft?
Speaker 1: And where with the players that we've taken today and
Speaker 1: earlier gone in last year's draft? And I'll hang up
Speaker 1: and listen to your of course answer, that's some extensive
Speaker 1: work right there. I'd have to sit down and flip
Speaker 1: talk about Byron Jones. I think I don't think i'd
Speaker 1: take it Byron Jones if you talk about the Only
Speaker 1: thing that's tough when you do this is we know
Speaker 1: how Byron Jones has done in the NFL. We know
Speaker 1: how these guys you know, like like Randy Gregory, you know,
Speaker 1: we know what's going on with him. So it's always
Speaker 1: tough doing this because we have some type of uh uh,
Speaker 1: you know, sample size in terms of how they pan out,
Speaker 1: but just going on how they graded as prospects. I
Speaker 1: think we both had Byron Jones as it was mid
Speaker 1: first rounder, right, we were surprised he fell as far
Speaker 1: as I did. I remember that absolutely. I had him
Speaker 1: as my eleventh best player on the board. Well, he
Speaker 1: was not the best twenty seventh best player. We said
Speaker 1: that on draft night, right, obviously we say that. Now. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: you know where would he had gone in this class?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean it's it's hard to say.
Speaker 1: You know, what, do you have gone ahead of Eli Apple? Yeah? Exactly?
Speaker 1: You know, maybe you know. I think you could certainly
Speaker 1: make that argument, but I think we can all agree
Speaker 1: it wasn't the best twenty seventh best player. William Jackson,
Speaker 1: you know those are guys, I mean, William Jackson, Apple,
Speaker 1: Hard Graves. I mean, tell me this for a for
Speaker 1: a draft that was as skimpy on elite pass rushers
Speaker 1: as this one was at the top. Right, Uh, you
Speaker 1: think Randy Gregory falls as far? And I mean we're
Speaker 1: talking you have hindsight, you know that he's screwed up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's going to be suspended. Go back to last year
Speaker 1: where you're taking a gam maybe if he didn't fail
Speaker 1: the drug test, even even if he does, even if
Speaker 1: he does fail the drug test, you think he falls
Speaker 1: as far as he did last year. Oh No, I
Speaker 1: think he still falls. I think that sixty I think
Speaker 1: the drug test does a lot to these people. I
Speaker 1: really do. Um, real quick, with that pick that the
Speaker 1: Raiders took, they took DeAndre Washington, uh, the running back
Speaker 1: from Texas Tech, and he goes to the Oakland Raiders.
Speaker 1: The pick that the Cowboys sent for Bryce Butler pick
Speaker 1: five one, five one forty three. Uh, DeAndre Washington running
Speaker 1: back for Texas Tech. I mean, I think, and then
Speaker 1: the Broncos pick this is a pick that they originally Yeah,
Speaker 1: Connor McGovern Cowboys guy, Yeah, the guard from Missouri goes
Speaker 1: to uh, the Denver Broncos. Okay, Ken, who do we got?
Speaker 1: We're gonna go to Minnesota and Peyton go ahead, you're up. Hey, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: I'm really excited to think about Prescott running the read
Speaker 1: option with Zeke. I think that'd be pretty cool. Um,
Speaker 1: do you guys think he could be a quarterback two
Speaker 1: right away? Or do you think Calin Moore is going
Speaker 1: to keep that spot for a while? And then, real quick, um,
Speaker 1: I really want to get back into the fifth round.
Speaker 1: Do you see us trading Ron Leary because I really
Speaker 1: want to get Jeremy cash and parent with Byron Joes
Speaker 1: back there for the next decade. I think that would
Speaker 1: be awesome. Yeah, thanks guys, thank you pretty much. I
Speaker 1: love that you got a plan that's awesome. Like he
Speaker 1: wants he wants to trade Leary, he wants to go
Speaker 1: to the fifth and he's got a player in mind. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a great call. Right. Most people are just like
Speaker 1: we go trade and they don't know what they want
Speaker 1: to do with it. If you could get Ron, if
Speaker 1: you could get back in this round for Ron Leary,
Speaker 1: by all means, try and do it. And I totally
Speaker 1: agree with with with that. I agree with I agree
Speaker 1: with all of that interview too, though. He answered QB two,
Speaker 1: I yeah, yes, I think Dak Dak can handle QB two.
Speaker 1: I don't know, what do you. I think you own
Speaker 1: a training camp, open competition, Yeah, you and I's got
Speaker 1: absolutely he can secure that job. I mean, Kellen Moore
Speaker 1: has the leg up in terms of his football knowledge
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, but I'm really excited about that
Speaker 1: quarterback room. Yeah, I mean, I think you're talking about
Speaker 1: some really bright quarterback minds. You know, Kellen Moore. I'm
Speaker 1: not a believer. I think his physical skills really limit him.
Speaker 1: But in terms of his ability above the neck, you know,
Speaker 1: with that having Tony in there adding Dak to that mix, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got a chance to really learn and it really
Speaker 1: makes some strides right away. So I think, maybe not
Speaker 1: right away, but at some point we're gonna see Dak
Speaker 1: take over that number two role. Really interesting point that
Speaker 1: I thought he made too. And it's so hard to
Speaker 1: project because we don't expect Dak to really play a
Speaker 1: lot of quarterback anytime soon. Dak Prescott and Zeke Elliott
Speaker 1: both do have a lot of experience with that read option. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and honestly, even Dak's athleticism. Yeah, maybe they don't run,
Speaker 1: they don't go full Colin Kaepernick, but this is a
Speaker 1: guy that I think you would do well to adjust
Speaker 1: your offense for right Yeah. Absolutely. Can you see this
Speaker 1: coaching staff doing something like that? I mean, well yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they did stuff the Lucky Whitehead. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: did a lot of things with Lucky Whitehead to try
Speaker 1: and get him involved in the game plan. So how
Speaker 1: cool would it be to see just like a package.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously Dak would have to prove that he can,
Speaker 1: that he's worthy of being on shield. Sure, maybe I'm
Speaker 1: third down, you know, you never know. That's kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Another thing that I was going to bring up, and
Speaker 1: I want to you to tell me if I'm crazy.
Speaker 1: Dane mentioned Tim Tebow himself. This dude's I mean, what
Speaker 1: are Dak's measurables? Dan six five to what two fifty?
Speaker 1: He's not that big twenty five maybe, yeah, he's he's
Speaker 1: six two twenty six. Yeah, so that yeah, but I
Speaker 1: mean that's around what Tebow. I mean, it's kind of
Speaker 1: what you when you picture Tebow this is he's kind
Speaker 1: of in that mold. But he's a much better passer. Okay, sorry, Brian.
Speaker 1: The reason I bring it up goal line, Yeah no,
Speaker 1: that's yeah, sure, gone. He's a physical runner and he's
Speaker 1: he lowers his pass ye run over right, see that
Speaker 1: far more in college than the pros. But I would
Speaker 1: be interested to see how he would do as a
Speaker 1: goal line option for the I mean, hey, goal line
Speaker 1: and Jumbo was a disaster for this team. So anything
Speaker 1: you can do to get you that extra half yard, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. Okay, ken't we got you
Speaker 1: said you got one more that we got Xavier and
Speaker 1: Austen Zavier go ahead. Uh, I'm just I'm really impressed
Speaker 1: with the draft of so far I did. If the
Speaker 1: Cowboys putting together home, but in the sixth round, who
Speaker 1: are possibilities that we can positions that we can go after?
Speaker 1: And uh as far as priority free agents, last year
Speaker 1: we kind of hit on lucky. Why I hit it right?
Speaker 1: Who who will we be possibly looking at this year? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we gotta get that, thank you. We gotta get through
Speaker 1: this fifth round. Really, I mean if you yeah, there's
Speaker 1: some there's gonna be some names on this board that
Speaker 1: that we're gonna that we're gonna like. But I think
Speaker 1: that you gotta get you know this, Like I said,
Speaker 1: we got some third round grades on this board. I
Speaker 1: got a large number of fourth round grades on this board.
Speaker 1: Who got some fifth round grade? So yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just to me a matter you're gonna be able
Speaker 1: to carry carry it enough guys over. I think it's
Speaker 1: hard to project who will be there because there's been
Speaker 1: some guys that have been taken earlier than I thought. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: let's go to our phone lines here and welcome the
Speaker 1: newest member of the Dallas Cowboys, Dak Prescott from Mississippi State. Dak,
Speaker 1: you got Brian, Dave, and Dane, and you're talking to
Speaker 1: two men that went to school at LSU. But we're
Speaker 1: really happy to have you here with the Dallas Cowboys. Welcome,
Speaker 1: welcome aboard. Yes, I appreciate it. Excited to be part
Speaker 1: of the team. Well, you you when when we were
Speaker 1: talking about you here on Dallas Cowboys dot com a
Speaker 1: lot you were visiting with the Cowboys. It seemed like
Speaker 1: you were having meetings here, you had lunch here, they
Speaker 1: worked you at the Senior Bowl, all these kinds of
Speaker 1: different meetings you did. It was pretty extensive the research
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys did on you leading up to this pick.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I met with him a good bit mail
Speaker 1: with him for the first time with the Senior Ball,
Speaker 1: and I'm in back and meeting with him at the
Speaker 1: combine and then they flew cook Wilson flew in the
Speaker 1: starting Ville to work me out private and went to
Speaker 1: lunch and then, uh, the last trip I made actually
Speaker 1: was to Dallas, So they saved the best for last
Speaker 1: for that. Yeah, And then so it was it was
Speaker 1: an exciting and I got a good feel of the
Speaker 1: coaching staff and I couldn't be more happier with where
Speaker 1: I am. Just to kind of expand on that, Dak
Speaker 1: congratulations again. Um, you know, the draft, it's it's so
Speaker 1: it's such a long process and there's so much information
Speaker 1: out there. But you know you you talked at the
Speaker 1: combine and as far back as February about the Cowboys
Speaker 1: talking to you about this possibility, and uh, to have
Speaker 1: it work out this, I guess cleanly. Uh. And and
Speaker 1: I know you've mentioned that that you grew up a
Speaker 1: Cowboys fan. It has to be pretty exciting to just
Speaker 1: kind of have it be that straightforward. I guess, yeah,
Speaker 1: at the America's team, and I can't be more more
Speaker 1: excited to be playing for him. And I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to I grew up at the Cowboys from Cowboys fans obviously.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. So, I mean it's it's awesome. When I
Speaker 1: got the phone call from mister Jones, was a drink
Speaker 1: from Dakka. We were talking about as our group, a
Speaker 1: little bit of uh with now with Zeke Elliott, maybe
Speaker 1: some read option stuff for you guys. I mean, you're
Speaker 1: one of the you're one of the best ball handlers
Speaker 1: at this quarterback. Can we see you maybe get on
Speaker 1: the field a little bit earlier. Maybe they have Tony
Speaker 1: walk over to the sidelines and search you in the
Speaker 1: game and get a little read option here going off,
Speaker 1: We'll see. I'm going to do whatever the coaches asked
Speaker 1: me to do, whatever role that may be, whatever plays
Speaker 1: that may be. I'm just excited and Zeke's a great
Speaker 1: back and I excited to be a teammate that. Like
Speaker 1: I mentioned, I mean, the draft process is so exhaustive.
Speaker 1: You know, we've broken all this down from all angles.
Speaker 1: You know, obviously you've been focused on getting picked. Now
Speaker 1: that you are with the team, You're with the Cowboys. Uh,
Speaker 1: what what have they told you or what have they
Speaker 1: talked to you about about what they want you to
Speaker 1: work on or top priorities and things to focus on
Speaker 1: when when you get into work here. Oh yeah, that's
Speaker 1: something that we'll discuss. I'm sure when we get into there.
Speaker 1: But obviously the one thing I've got to get better
Speaker 1: and just keep the tenue to work on is just
Speaker 1: drops from mind of the Senate because I hadn't been
Speaker 1: asked to do it in high school, in North College,
Speaker 1: so it's more just getting repetition, getting reps at and
Speaker 1: getting comfortable doing it. So I'm excited. I'm excited to
Speaker 1: do whatever they are and I'm a hard work and
Speaker 1: I'm out work everyone, so I'm excited for whatever they
Speaker 1: don't throw at me. Well, I remember the newest newest
Speaker 1: member the Dallas Cowboys, Dak Prescott. Dak, thanks so much
Speaker 1: for joining us. Look forward to seeing you here in
Speaker 1: a few days. Enjoy this time with your family, and
Speaker 1: we'll see you down the road over rats. Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: thank you, Dak Prescott. I was member of the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Like I said, quarterback Mississippi State. Uh the uh, some
Speaker 1: picks have been made. Let's see where at the picks.
Speaker 1: Seattle just trade it up for this pick right here. Okay,
Speaker 1: Seattle's now Seattle just traded up for this pick. We'll
Speaker 1: go back to let's see, this is Seattle's pick, and
Speaker 1: let's see who they take here. I'm always at the
Speaker 1: mercy of these long winded things. Dave Hellman just wants
Speaker 1: him to turn the card in and go. You like
Speaker 1: to bet when the commissioner didn't the pick, make the pick,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and I feel like a jerk because these
Speaker 1: kids are cute. They're playing flag football. It's probably a
Speaker 1: special day. Quake the pick. Quentin Jefferson, the defensive tackle
Speaker 1: from Maryland is the selection. And now before that, the
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens took Matt Judon the linebacker. They listened to
Speaker 1: the linebacker Grand Valley State. He'll be a pass rusher, absolutely,
Speaker 1: and we'll get to him. And then before that, San
Speaker 1: Francisco took John Thas the offensive tackle from Georgia. So
Speaker 1: you are caught up theis to the forty nine erst
Speaker 1: one forty five. Baltimore at one forty six takes Matt Judon.
Speaker 1: I want you to talk about Matt Judon a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Matt ju Don from Grand Valley State talk about production
Speaker 1: twenty three and a half tackles for loss as a senior,
Speaker 1: twenty one sacks, so he blockers at the D two
Speaker 1: level had no answer for this player. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: his quickness off the snap, he had some flexibility to
Speaker 1: bend the edge. And so he's going to face a
Speaker 1: large jump here going against D two tackles face now
Speaker 1: facing NFL town So there will be a big learning
Speaker 1: curve and he's going to be a work in progress
Speaker 1: against the run. But the pass rush traits the rod trades, Yeah,
Speaker 1: very intriguing and so um, you know I get to
Speaker 1: pick here and he's going to Baltimore's having a heck
Speaker 1: of a draft here. Yeah, sure added another star player. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they sure did. And that's what we always know about
Speaker 1: Ozzie Newsom. You know, he's a guy that has an idea,
Speaker 1: been a long time general manager since nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of consistency in the way they draft,
Speaker 1: the way they evaluate players. They got an outstanding head
Speaker 1: coach and John Harbaugh been there a long time now,
Speaker 1: so they clearly have a plan in what they want
Speaker 1: to do with the players. Tampa Bay is on the
Speaker 1: clock at pick one, forty eight. The pick is in
Speaker 1: Um that we but this which this is kind of
Speaker 1: your observations of Dak Prescott, just what he was what
Speaker 1: just some of the things he was saying. And he's
Speaker 1: going to a good situation with uh you know mentioned
Speaker 1: it with Tony Romo and Kellen Moore in that quarterback room.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have the chance to be a sponge and
Speaker 1: soak up all that information and learn. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: when you watched him, I think you gave a good
Speaker 1: snapshot because there's a lot to like about him. But
Speaker 1: he does have some flaws. Uh, you know, he needs
Speaker 1: to do a better job feeling that rush, anticipating throws
Speaker 1: and delivering downfield. But again, I think he really developed
Speaker 1: from a thrower into a passer over the last year. Uh.
Speaker 1: He trusts what he sees more, he trusts his teammates.
Speaker 1: He's not just a runner, but he can do that
Speaker 1: and finish. He'll lower his pads and run over linebackers.
Speaker 1: So but again, the biggest thing here, the leadership, the
Speaker 1: poise that he has. Those intangibles are why I think
Speaker 1: he's a Dallas cowboy right now. It's I mean, it's
Speaker 1: hard to projects such a different offense. It's obviously a
Speaker 1: different level of football. But the guy talked about playing
Speaker 1: center to learn how to do that. Only that, I
Speaker 1: mean the guy flirted with seventy percent completions. Yeah last year.
Speaker 1: I mean he had a really good He threw five paces.
Speaker 1: He let us up a couple of times at LSU.
Speaker 1: I know that he had a he had a fantastic
Speaker 1: and Yeah, and he got better every step of every
Speaker 1: year he was there. He got better, just like Dane
Speaker 1: just said. Um, and the fact that he's under no
Speaker 1: immediate pressure to play quarterback. Knock on wood, assuming Tony
Speaker 1: Romo is healthy. Uh, And you know, I think this
Speaker 1: is an ideal, ideal spot for him to step into. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think what Dane's talking about. I love that
Speaker 1: the character this guy, I mean, I do. I think
Speaker 1: he wants to come in. He's gonna work hard, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be the best he can at it. I think
Speaker 1: it would be a little bit disappointing because he is
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a known name, he's an All American
Speaker 1: type of player, he was a Heisman contender. It would
Speaker 1: probably be a little disappointing for fans and media if
Speaker 1: he didn't win the quarterback, back up, the backup job. Right.
Speaker 1: But even if he doesn't, uh, you know, you're talking
Speaker 1: about pick one thirty five. I don't think that's the
Speaker 1: end of the world either. Given how good these guys
Speaker 1: feel about Kellen Moore, I know not everybody does, but
Speaker 1: the coaching, I mean, Scott Lenahank clearly loves him. Jerry
Speaker 1: was impressed with what the glimpse that he saw of him.
Speaker 1: So I think that's a great situation for Dak and
Speaker 1: that I don't think there's even immediate pressure to be
Speaker 1: the backup right away, right, But I'm very interested to
Speaker 1: see how that competition plays out. A pick one forty
Speaker 1: eight that would be Tampa Bay. They took Caleb Ben
Speaker 1: a knock the uh the tackle from UCLA. Dave, how
Speaker 1: do you like this? I went and got pronunciation guys,
Speaker 1: all the players from the UH. Well, I went and
Speaker 1: I looked it up. Look at you. I looked it
Speaker 1: up because I'm I'm I hate when I hate when
Speaker 1: I mess these players names up. Oh you need the
Speaker 1: draft guy. Yeah, they got the draft guy. That's but
Speaker 1: this this is my hand that in January, because you
Speaker 1: know what, Dave, I got so tired of you yelling
Speaker 1: at me. The Giants picks in right now, and uh,
Speaker 1: let's see where they go. Right here, David Tyree and
Speaker 1: I'm here with Mary Beth and all our friends with
Speaker 1: the make a wish. I mean, I can't. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Of the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, the New York Giants
Speaker 1: select Paul Paul Perkins, running back. Take Paul Perkins. How
Speaker 1: about that one guy the Cowboys brought in. They talked
Speaker 1: to him. He was a guy that he was kind
Speaker 1: of in that range of running backs that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: were looking at. We we had, uh, we had the
Speaker 1: Elliott's and the Henrys and the Procises and the Collins
Speaker 1: and the Perkins. Good spot for him right here. Dane
Speaker 1: probably looks like on my board is a fourth round pick.
Speaker 1: Pretty good value, right He gave a fourth round grade
Speaker 1: as well. Five ten, two hundred and ten pounds player
Speaker 1: who between the tackles is not going to give you
Speaker 1: a lot of juice. He doesn't have that power, but
Speaker 1: he runs determined, you know. He It's not for lack
Speaker 1: of trying. And so I think in space he can
Speaker 1: make some guys miss um and you can catch him
Speaker 1: out of the backfield. He had eighty catches over his
Speaker 1: career for UCLA, So I think that'll be a big
Speaker 1: part of what he brings it. He just brings a
Speaker 1: different type of back to that Giants backfield. You think
Speaker 1: what the Giants have back there with Jennings and Jane Vereen.
Speaker 1: I think he just brings a different style of back
Speaker 1: that it'll help compliment everyone else. Well, the Cowbos will
Speaker 1: get to see him twice. You get to see him
Speaker 1: opening day too. Nephew or great grand nephew, Don perkinsis
Speaker 1: he's in the Cowboys ringbond? Uncle, Yeah, exactly, So s
Speaker 1: I means use LA players go back to back. Jim
Speaker 1: Mora it is sees his tackle and a running back.
Speaker 1: I love and when you study every player in the draft,
Speaker 1: obviously you kind of have an idea of a lot
Speaker 1: of them, all of them for Yal, but I just
Speaker 1: love how these these guys with connections to us seem
Speaker 1: to find their way to the other NFC East teams.
Speaker 1: I mean, Isaac Sumalu went to Philly last night. Paul
Speaker 1: Perkins is now going to be running at the Cowboys
Speaker 1: foreseeable future. So that that might be my favorite part
Speaker 1: about about the Draft show and just learning about the
Speaker 1: draft is they're only going to take nine of these guys, right,
Speaker 1: but you're gonna have an idea about all three hundred
Speaker 1: of them, and hopefully so when Paul Perkins runs for
Speaker 1: you know, a buck twenty against the Cowboys next year,
Speaker 1: you're gonna say, ah, I knew that guy. You knew
Speaker 1: Paul perk. Okay, the Bears are the Bears are on
Speaker 1: the clock. Well, the pick is in for the Bears.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be pick five, one fifty the Bears. Man,
Speaker 1: it's hard to keep up with all the things that
Speaker 1: they've done. They've been moving around. Now let's see the Bears.
Speaker 1: Here's the announcement of their pick apart. I'm Jason Keith,
Speaker 1: former Chicago Bears fullback to announce our next pick in
Speaker 1: the two thousand raft, the Chicago Bears that likes a
Speaker 1: welcome Lieutenant Colonel Brian Kellner of the United States Marine Corps.
Speaker 1: With the one hundred and fiftieth pick in the twenty
Speaker 1: sixteen NFL Draft, the Chicago Bears select Jordan Howard. Here
Speaker 1: we go running backs. Okay, here the running backs that
Speaker 1: have gone so far. Let's think about this. Uh, DeAndre
Speaker 1: Washington went at one forty three. Early before that, you
Speaker 1: had DeVante Booker going as a supplemental pick. So yeah,
Speaker 1: say Booker one thirty six January, Washington one forty three.
Speaker 1: You have Perkins going to one forty nine, and now
Speaker 1: Jordan Howard, the running back from Indiana goes it went
Speaker 1: fifty to the Chicago Bears. I go into a situation
Speaker 1: where they lost Matt Forte, right. Uh, you know, Langford
Speaker 1: is penciled and as a starter, but they need some
Speaker 1: more some more bodies back there to you know, help
Speaker 1: take some carries. And this this guy is uh, he's
Speaker 1: a little longer than you want, taller than you want
Speaker 1: for the running back position, six foot two hundred thirty pounds.
Speaker 1: But what he did at Indiana this past year, rushing
Speaker 1: for over twelve hundred yards. He was banged up quite
Speaker 1: a bit, but he runs physical and he's not shy
Speaker 1: about lowering his pads and uh, you know, delivering a blow,
Speaker 1: powering forward. So you see that balanced lean and I
Speaker 1: think that's the best thing to like about it. I
Speaker 1: thought he got better as the year war on. I
Speaker 1: didn't think his tape was as good early as it
Speaker 1: was later they got into that big ten schedule, and
Speaker 1: he seemed to kind of lit him a little bit
Speaker 1: in some of those games where he's able to do okay.
Speaker 1: K Garrison tells me, we've got some of the audio
Speaker 1: from Dak Prescott's call to Jerry Jones. Let's listen to her.
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones and your Dallas cowboy, how are you doing. Listen.
Speaker 1: We're glad you're here, excited about it, and you've had
Speaker 1: a really outstanding career that a Mississippi state, but we
Speaker 1: are excited about it. We've got your coordinator and your
Speaker 1: head coach, all of them quarterbacks, they will really be
Speaker 1: able to give you some great coaching. Yes, sir, I'm excited.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you are because we're excited about it to Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you, Dak. Here's here's I want you to talk
Speaker 1: to our head coach, Jason. Yes, here, Dak, what's some quach?
Speaker 1: Congratulations buddy, I appreciate it. How are you? I'm good, good, exciting. Now. Well,
Speaker 1: it's a great day for you, but it's a great
Speaker 1: day for us too. Excited to have you on our
Speaker 1: football team. Yes, sir, I appreciate the coach. I'm ready,
Speaker 1: you're ready to get the work. I'm ready. Congrats again.
Speaker 1: I got Scott Linehan right here. Who wants to say
Speaker 1: hello to you? All right? Job man? Congrats? Yes sir,
Speaker 1: thank you, Dack? What's up? Coach? Congrats? Man, appreciated, appreciate, excited.
Speaker 1: I am trusting me. I know you are. How to
Speaker 1: feeling this might happen? Oh yeah, yes, sometimes you know,
Speaker 1: people belong together, you know what I mean. That's right, Hey,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun. You get ready to go. We're
Speaker 1: gonna be slinging around here in about three days, four
Speaker 1: days exactly. All right, Hey, hey, look forward to it.
Speaker 1: You got my number, right, I think I get here,
Speaker 1: But all right, I'll let you go celebrate. It sounds
Speaker 1: like you got a crew there. All right, buddy. This
Speaker 1: is just me being a total ass because that's what
Speaker 1: I am. But just once, when Jason Garrett asks him
Speaker 1: if he's ready to go to work, I want the
Speaker 1: guy to be like, nah, I'm gonna go party. Yeah, yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about that, coach. Okay, well, here is the
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions are gonna we'll get back to Prescott. Detroit
Speaker 1: Lions with their selection. This is gonna be pick one
Speaker 1: fifty one in the fifth round the tooth. I was
Speaker 1: in sixteen NFL Draft. The Detroit Lions select Joe Dall
Speaker 1: tackles Washington State. Joe Dall Okay, we always talk about
Speaker 1: the Lions had a third round grade on him. I
Speaker 1: thought he was a guy in the top one hundred
Speaker 1: you take a chance on. He was a left tackle
Speaker 1: at Washington State, also played some left guard originally at Montana,
Speaker 1: transferred to Washington State. Kind of bet on himself, but
Speaker 1: very balanced player, natural body control, flexible. I think he
Speaker 1: has the instincts that you want. Very competitive player. I
Speaker 1: think he can be a long term starter in this league.
Speaker 1: So I like Joe Dall quite a bit. What he
Speaker 1: can the death that he brings immediately, and then also
Speaker 1: the fact that I think he can win a starter job. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what, I don't disagree with anything
Speaker 1: you said. The Lions are team. It always seems like
Speaker 1: they're hunting for offensive lineman and Joe Dall is a
Speaker 1: guy that I do agree with. That gives them two
Speaker 1: pretty good ones in this draft, doesn't Glasgow earlier? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Then three because they took a tackle in the French
Speaker 1: round Taylor Decker keep Matt Stafford up trying to trying
Speaker 1: to add some young guys to uh to that defense. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's talk about the conversation with Scotland Ahan and Da
Speaker 1: good Dad. That's like how I would say it. Well,
Speaker 1: he said, this is, you know some things you meant
Speaker 1: to be together, and that's what I was kind of
Speaker 1: trying to get it. You were you were trying to
Speaker 1: That's why I wanted to circle back around. The dots
Speaker 1: were here and like I mean, it just and a
Speaker 1: lot of times it's too good to be true. And
Speaker 1: you know there's smoke screens and other teams like the guy.
Speaker 1: But we first thought Dak might be a possibility here
Speaker 1: as far back as late January or early February, and
Speaker 1: and low and behold it works out that way. Well,
Speaker 1: pick one fifty two now is well not now? It
Speaker 1: is it? Uh is one that the Washington Redskins got
Speaker 1: earlier with a trade with the with the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 1: This will be the Saint's original pick. But now it's
Speaker 1: in the hands of the Washington Redskins. So we'll see
Speaker 1: what Scott McCluin will do. This isn't this isn't any
Speaker 1: kind of revelation, but it is. It's fascinating that Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott is going to be surrounded by former quarterbacks, between Wade,
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett and Scott Linahan. And I wonder, and we
Speaker 1: talk about the Cowboys picked Jalen Smith, and a lot
Speaker 1: of it probably had to do with with them employing
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith's doctor. Uh. I want and you know Dane's taught.
Speaker 1: You know, he's got to work on his mechanics, he's
Speaker 1: got to work on his throwing motion. He's got just
Speaker 1: a little quicker in this decision. I wonder how much
Speaker 1: of their willingness to take Dak Prescott has to do
Speaker 1: with the amount of quarterback expertise they have on this
Speaker 1: coaching staff that can help him out. Well, there's some
Speaker 1: people to argue they haven't ever developed one with all
Speaker 1: the expert fantastic point was pretty much that Tony Romo
Speaker 1: was Tony Romo. So you know, I don't have I
Speaker 1: think that's an exaggeration. Well, you know, well there's some
Speaker 1: people that believe that. Well, and hey, they definitely haven't
Speaker 1: developed many. Granted they've only spend a draft pick on
Speaker 1: one in the last you know, twenty years, but uh,
Speaker 1: I think that's fascinating. And the best part is, you
Speaker 1: know what's great about this, Brian, if you take Paxston
Speaker 1: Lynch at twenty six, there's a lot of pressure for
Speaker 1: that to be right and for that to be made.
Speaker 1: That they made the determination to go, No, I know
Speaker 1: they made That's that's what you have to look at.
Speaker 1: That they felt nothing about that, And honestly, I would
Speaker 1: have been fine with that if they had done that.
Speaker 1: But at twenty six, your expectations raise a little bit,
Speaker 1: you know, and you would do expect that to be
Speaker 1: this guy that's going to take over for Tony Romo.
Speaker 1: Clearly you would like Dak Prescott to evolve into a
Speaker 1: great quarterback. Yeah, but it's far less of a missopportunity
Speaker 1: if he doesn't. At one thirty five, okay, reset the
Speaker 1: board here and go available. Here we go. Let's go
Speaker 1: to the Redskins real quick as we could. And in
Speaker 1: two thousand and sixty NFL Draft, washing Arrist Matt defensive end. Okay,
Speaker 1: Matt Ianitis goes from the Temple University, makes a not
Speaker 1: a too far of a trip for him from Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: I'd watching DC. He really helped himself the Senior Bowl. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he did. He looked a lot better, and I thought
Speaker 1: he did on film. The lockers had a tough time
Speaker 1: when she did so. I thought he really made some money.
Speaker 1: But all right, going back to the best available right
Speaker 1: now to me. Top guy on my boars, Rochard Higgins,
Speaker 1: wide receiver from Colorado State, right, Jeremy cash Is number two, right,
Speaker 1: Duke's safety, Kenstrell Brothers, Missouri linebacker, number three, Christian Westerman fourth,
Speaker 1: the guard from Arizona Studio, and Jalen Mills at number five,
Speaker 1: the LSU defensive back. I think the Temple Owls have
Speaker 1: had more guys picked than the LSU. We'll make that
Speaker 1: up one day next year like the Ohio State Buckeyes. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: Kit Garrison tells us we got a couple of calls. Wait,
Speaker 1: Force Kent, what do you got Yep, go ahead, Ryan
Speaker 1: in South Carolina. Hey, guys, my question has to do
Speaker 1: with the Jalen Smith pick. Um. I was wanting to
Speaker 1: know how that kind of pick effects or what it
Speaker 1: tells us about the job security of the head coach
Speaker 1: that's involves. And do you think that Jason Garrett had
Speaker 1: any reservations whatsoever about the pick being made? Thank you
Speaker 1: and have a great day. It's a fantastic question, and
Speaker 1: we kind of brought that up last night. Is uh.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not out of the Roman possibility that
Speaker 1: if Jalen Smith doesn't play until twenty seventeen, he's playing
Speaker 1: for a new coaching staff. I mean, you always have
Speaker 1: to consider, always have to consider that, and I think
Speaker 1: probably in the back of Jason Garrett's mind and the
Speaker 1: coaching staff's mind, you have that possibility sitting there. But
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the way these guys are well, no,
Speaker 1: and that's not the way football players are wired. It's not.
Speaker 1: He's got what three more years on a contract, didn't
Speaker 1: he fo Yeah, yeah, extension. Yeah. And and like we've said,
Speaker 1: we said at the top of that security for him
Speaker 1: as far as financially sure, but as far as being
Speaker 1: the head coach, there's no guarantee. But we sat at
Speaker 1: the top of this broadcast that this is a team
Speaker 1: that is acting as though they are close to being
Speaker 1: a tender. Yeah, that's that's Or is anybody really sitting
Speaker 1: in there thinking, hey, uh, we might not ever coach
Speaker 1: this guy. Yeah, sure, I think they would if you
Speaker 1: asked them, they would acknowledge that that is a reality
Speaker 1: of the league that they work in. Yeah, but that's
Speaker 1: not the way they're wired. I think they think that
Speaker 1: they're going to be a good team, the same way
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith is not wired to think, well, maybe I
Speaker 1: won't ever play again. He's he said he will absolutely play.
Speaker 1: He'll be great, ye, all that good type of stuff.
Speaker 1: And I hope I'm wrong about that one. Yeah, me too. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, can't you get another No? I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think that that weighs heavily on the mind
Speaker 1: of Jason Garrett. I think he probably acknowledges it as
Speaker 1: a possibility, but that's just not the way these competitive
Speaker 1: types are wired. Okay, can't we go across the world
Speaker 1: now to Philip in France. Hey, hello Philip, I mean
Speaker 1: uh thing. I have to say that I love your shows,
Speaker 1: Thank you. I just I just think they should less
Speaker 1: longer than just one hour. Thank you. Another thing, Brian,
Speaker 1: if you ever think to write your memories as a
Speaker 1: scout or with a part teaching, uh association with that
Speaker 1: being the ignorant that I am to how to scout players,
Speaker 1: you can be sure I'm going to be the first
Speaker 1: one to get your book. Thank you very much, very
Speaker 1: kind of you. Yeah, I've got one thing too for
Speaker 1: David to uh you said the earlier on the Draft
Speaker 1: show that it would drop on the drag on the
Speaker 1: table if the selection was Zeke kill yot, and I
Speaker 1: didn't so him do it by Thursday night. You're you're
Speaker 1: all right? I did not Actually I did not actually dance.
Speaker 1: Let's take We've got a lot of equipment up here.
Speaker 1: It didn't seem like a proud Maybe you can get
Speaker 1: you to do a little jag here. Yeah, just stand
Speaker 1: up right for Zeke. All right, I am pretty pumped
Speaker 1: about Zke Elliott. So there we go. I feel like
Speaker 1: in the moment, I was so I was so worked
Speaker 1: up and like trying to focus on the draft and
Speaker 1: what was happening. Thank you for that. By the way,
Speaker 1: there we go, adrenaline kicked in. I was so focused
Speaker 1: on work. Thank you, Thank you very Okay, Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on the stony Brook defensive in Victor? Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you very much. I'm questioning the full back spot
Speaker 1: to Okay, what are your thoughts on not Western? Uh? Okay,
Speaker 1: this is Kansas State groans a little brou Okay, So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hang up and listen to your takes. Thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you and all. I appreciate that. Can we just
Speaker 1: stop and appreciate the fact that a guy from France
Speaker 1: just called us and you did a little Dan. We're
Speaker 1: not talking about we're not talking about round one to
Speaker 1: talk about like Zeke, he wants to know about Victor Oche.
Speaker 1: There you go, stony Brook pass rusher, Doc, What what
Speaker 1: a beast? What a great world? When you could talk
Speaker 1: about the stony Brook Pats rush. Victor's trying to be
Speaker 1: the first player from stony Brook to ever be drafted. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think he's got a good chance of that happening.
Speaker 1: He's under size six one, two hundred forty five pounds.
Speaker 1: I think that fit the fit questions. That's why he's
Speaker 1: still on the board. And you know why he's not
Speaker 1: a lock draft pick. But he has really long arms
Speaker 1: for a guy with those dimensions, almost thirty four inches.
Speaker 1: Does a nice job using his lack of size, you know,
Speaker 1: staying load of the ground, extending, shooting those hands in
Speaker 1: the blockers, driving them backwards. Really productive at stony Brook
Speaker 1: thirty two and a half sacks over his career. So
Speaker 1: I do think we'll hear stony Brook be represented here
Speaker 1: the next few picks. Let me get to before you
Speaker 1: get back to the other the fullbacks. Let me recap
Speaker 1: the draft here little bit. Philadelphia was on the clock
Speaker 1: at one fifty three. They took Wendell Smallwood, the running
Speaker 1: back from West Virginia. The Cleveland Browns are now on
Speaker 1: the clock. Their picks in it one fifty four. We'll
Speaker 1: see what direction that they're gonna go in. But finish
Speaker 1: up to about the fullbacks and some of the other things.
Speaker 1: What's going on there? Yeah, Grinkowski, Uh, you know, the
Speaker 1: youngest of the Gronkowski brothers, trying to join the fullers
Speaker 1: um in terms of having four brothers in the NFL.
Speaker 1: But you know, he's if his last name wasn't Grinkowski,
Speaker 1: would we still be talking about him as a as
Speaker 1: a viable draft pick. I'm not sure. I think there's
Speaker 1: He's an okay player. Uh, nothing really stands out about him.
Speaker 1: Dan Vitally's interesting because he did a little bit of everything.
Speaker 1: He was that super back front of Rthwestern caught the
Speaker 1: ball well. Uh, you know, he lined up as a
Speaker 1: tight end, as a wing, as a slot receiver. So
Speaker 1: I think he brings a little bit more versatility there. Okay.
Speaker 1: And the Cleveland Browns, Uh take Jordan Peyton, the wide
Speaker 1: receiver from UCLA. Uh, some thoughts about him there, Dame Brugler, Yeah,
Speaker 1: six one, two oh seven an adequate athlete, not a
Speaker 1: great athlete. But Browns is the third receiver they've drafted
Speaker 1: so far. Yeah, they're kind of they're running there. They
Speaker 1: know that that roster's void of playmakers, and so they're
Speaker 1: trying to tighten too. We think the tight end from
Speaker 1: from tight ends slash halfback slash receiver. Yeah, he's a
Speaker 1: little bit of everything. Um with Peyton, he's not dynamic,
Speaker 1: He's just kind of like goes against what the Browns
Speaker 1: have been going. The Browns have been drafting traits and
Speaker 1: spark scores and high you know, the testing numbers. R.
Speaker 1: Peyton's not that guy. He didn't test off the charts,
Speaker 1: doesn't have that explosiveness. But I think this is the
Speaker 1: guy that scouts really like a player's productive. He had
Speaker 1: over eleven hundred yards as a senior. Uh, I know,
Speaker 1: I think you liked him a little more than I did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I sure did. I sure did. And so yeah, I
Speaker 1: make sure you check out Kevin Turner's most recent tweet.
Speaker 1: I think it's just for you. I'm giddingness, Hey, it
Speaker 1: looks like that we're gonna be able to in the
Speaker 1: coming moments here. We're gonna have a Leon Lett defensive
Speaker 1: line coach come in and talk about the two. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: we got well we have Malite Collins. Leon coaches defensive tackles, right,
Speaker 1: but Lee Collins and also added Charles Stepper today. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so it sounds like that they're guys. Are guys here
Speaker 1: are working on getting that real quick. If we've got
Speaker 1: a minute to go back to fullbacks. Yeah, maybe we
Speaker 1: can talk about this later if we don't have time,
Speaker 1: But that that's interesting to me. I mean, uh, Tyler
Speaker 1: Klutz is not back with this team. The Cowboys love
Speaker 1: to sign a guy in college free agency. I'm positive
Speaker 1: they'll go to training camp with a fullback or two.
Speaker 1: But where do you I mean, Zeke kind of makes
Speaker 1: that interesting because they've got four primary running backs right now,
Speaker 1: four guys that you assume they probably don't want to cut.
Speaker 1: So what do you think is more likely that this
Speaker 1: team rolls without a fullback or that a running back
Speaker 1: that is currently employed here won't be I think that
Speaker 1: they feel comfortable because of the special team stuff I
Speaker 1: think with you know, if they do that, well, well,
Speaker 1: but I mean, well, they haven't resigned him now, maybe
Speaker 1: they could, Maybe they could. That's what I'm That's what
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say. I mean, so, what you're going
Speaker 1: to carry a fullback and four running backs? Well, if
Speaker 1: one of those running backs is a pup guy, and
Speaker 1: that's I think that's unkind. Yeah, that's that's the question.
Speaker 1: That's the that's the question that you have to think
Speaker 1: about right now. If Dunbar is not a pup guy.
Speaker 1: Do you think they would they carried four court they
Speaker 1: carried four last year. An Actually I think they did.
Speaker 1: They sure did, And I think that's because kluts can
Speaker 1: do things on specialty. That's that's the that's the really
Speaker 1: the only reason that they could you carrot Could you
Speaker 1: use James Hannah as basically? I mean he's played hvac. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but every time they've ever put when those tight ends
Speaker 1: at the full back spot, it doesn't work, doesn't really
Speaker 1: It just no, it really doesn't mean Hannah is an
Speaker 1: edge block. Hannah's a quarter of attack on the line
Speaker 1: motions and stuff too. Yeah, but he's better at when
Speaker 1: he can hook guys and get position and all that
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So Bills are making the selection here, Uh,
Speaker 1: interested to see. I'm always interested in picks and what
Speaker 1: guys are going to be fifty five. The Colts took
Speaker 1: a Hague, the Joe Hague, the offensive tackle from North
Speaker 1: Dakota State. So North Dakota State with two draftable players
Speaker 1: this year. They had, of course Carson Wentz and then
Speaker 1: the offensive tackle here. Now Joe Hague goes to the Colts.
Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills are did you think Jonathan Williams. Okay,
Speaker 1: Arkansas running back Jonathan Williams. So I tried. I had
Speaker 1: Arkansas fans arguing with me how Alex Collins is by
Speaker 1: far a superior running back and here, well I had
Speaker 1: him better. Jonathan Williams with a bum foot, just went
Speaker 1: ahead of Alex Collins in the fifth round. So I
Speaker 1: really like Williams if if not for the foot injury.
Speaker 1: We're talking about him as as a top one hundred player,
Speaker 1: one of the top three backs in his class. So
Speaker 1: I think the Bill's got to steal here as long
Speaker 1: as that foot holds up. Yeah, and you're right, as
Speaker 1: long as that that foot does. Foot injuries always worry
Speaker 1: me with backs, There's plenty to be concerned about, but
Speaker 1: again a big if if he's able to stay healthy.
Speaker 1: I love the pick. I'm gonna think of YouTube for
Speaker 1: the rest of their careers when I see Jonathan Williams
Speaker 1: and Alex Collins, I mean, whether it's good or bad.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna remember this debate because it's one of the
Speaker 1: long like I typically remember a show we did an
Speaker 1: Indie during the combine where y'all were about to grab
Speaker 1: each other by the throat over Alex Collins and Jonathan Williams.
Speaker 1: We were that bad. It was pretty heated. It was
Speaker 1: it pretty heated. It was about as heated as you
Speaker 1: tube get, which is to say, very friendly banter. But
Speaker 1: I can pretend that you were about to fight if
Speaker 1: I want to interesting that he has to remember about
Speaker 1: you and I going at each other with that. That way,
Speaker 1: the biggest thing with Collins that worries means the fumbles. Uh.
Speaker 1: He just I don't know, there's nothing that separates him.
Speaker 1: I want difference making trades, guys that whether you know,
Speaker 1: and make guys miss uh, you know, guys that can
Speaker 1: power over you. The vision Alice Collins is everything okay,
Speaker 1: just nothing great. And so he's not got to wait long.
Speaker 1: I anticipate him coming off the board here pretty quickly.
Speaker 1: But I'm glad to see Jonathan Williams come off the
Speaker 1: board here. Yeah, and so yeah, I was kind of
Speaker 1: hopeful that Collins would have gone first, so that way
Speaker 1: I could have a one up on you. But I
Speaker 1: guess he all right, Well, it looks like that we
Speaker 1: are joined here. Coach Leon uh a man who comes
Speaker 1: in here and and he's uh, I'm sure the big
Speaker 1: cat is uh a big guy. So he's gonna, he's gonna,
Speaker 1: he's gonna fight for his players. And so yeah, all
Speaker 1: these guys all of a sudden. You know, you don't
Speaker 1: many times the coaches get to have picks. But my
Speaker 1: man here has got two pretty good stretch for the
Speaker 1: D line rooms. Coach Lean, let thanks so much for
Speaker 1: joining us. Uh, all right, talk about it. We got MALIEK.
Speaker 1: Collins here third round selection and then Charles Tapper as well.
Speaker 1: Some of the things you saw on both the players.
Speaker 1: All right, thanks for having me first problem, I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: M Malik. First of all, I got a chance to
Speaker 1: work out both of the guys, Malik and Charles m
Speaker 1: But I got um Charles first, right, went up to
Speaker 1: Oklahoma first and uh man Um. I was impressed just
Speaker 1: by his movement. Right, he has the traits that we like. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, he played in more of a three four
Speaker 1: style defense. Um, but you can see the vision for
Speaker 1: him as a as an edge Russia, right and a
Speaker 1: guy that can move stunts and right. We like his
Speaker 1: his ability. Yeah, with with with with Charles a little
Speaker 1: bit though with with uh you talk about the scheme
Speaker 1: and stuff more of a three fourt but if you
Speaker 1: watch him a tape was was there we saw maybe
Speaker 1: not react as quickly. Is that more of a scheme?
Speaker 1: Was there? Some scheme things I mean with him? And
Speaker 1: now you feel like that, well you do see some
Speaker 1: of that that quickness with him. Yeah. You so you
Speaker 1: can see the movement right off the bad um. Like
Speaker 1: you said, you don't know how how they were coached
Speaker 1: and right what their eyes were trained, rights for what
Speaker 1: they were keying and uh out that I got up
Speaker 1: and to Oklahoma and visited with him. We watched film
Speaker 1: man Um. He kind of explained to me, Yeah, some
Speaker 1: of the technique and you know they were kind of
Speaker 1: watching the back and yeah, defense right. It kind of
Speaker 1: slowed him down a little bit, but you can see
Speaker 1: that he has instincts. He does have football these teams.
Speaker 1: What about with Collins, you know, I mean again it
Speaker 1: looked like watching him on that Nebraska put him on
Speaker 1: that shoulder, let him go more of a three technique
Speaker 1: kind of a player for you in this year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's the vision that we have for him.
Speaker 1: He fits well as a what we call the undertackle position,
Speaker 1: and uh, he'll be a guy that can penetrate U
Speaker 1: can do a good job of rapping on our games
Speaker 1: and our stunts, and uh, I mean he has a
Speaker 1: past rush ability as well, so he's like that was
Speaker 1: one of the good things you saw him in Nebraska
Speaker 1: was those twist games and stuff like that. Man he
Speaker 1: could get so he could get it up the field.
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett actually talked to the media last night after
Speaker 1: after last night was over. He mentioned, you know, defensive
Speaker 1: end gets so much credit as kind of the visible,
Speaker 1: flashy pass rush position. But how do you guys feel
Speaker 1: I assume the answer has to be excited, But the
Speaker 1: amount of resources y'all have at tackle now with Collins obviously,
Speaker 1: Tyron Crawford's there, and y'all signed Cedric Thornton, how do
Speaker 1: you feel about that interior pass rush right now? I
Speaker 1: think we feel real good about it. I do, Coach
Speaker 1: Marinelli does as well, and we also have we have
Speaker 1: Malite Collins now, Tyron Crawford, you mentioned Cedric Thornton and
Speaker 1: also Terrell McClain. Sure, right, So you know, I feel
Speaker 1: real good about those four guys being in a rotational
Speaker 1: ski team and our system, it demands hard work and uh,
Speaker 1: down in and down out, so you need to kind
Speaker 1: of have some guys to rotate and keep him fresh.
Speaker 1: You mentioned, um Tapper played a different scheme in college
Speaker 1: than than what you guys run here. I'm interested to know.
Speaker 1: And obviously you guys watch tape on all these guys,
Speaker 1: you visit with them. It's an exhaustive process, clearly, But
Speaker 1: at what point, and I guess it's maybe visiting with him,
Speaker 1: at what point do you kind of get a feel
Speaker 1: for Okay, I can project this guy to what we do.
Speaker 1: I think this guy works for what we want. I
Speaker 1: think for Charles, you know, you see a guy that
Speaker 1: he's six two, Um he's two seventy, played at two
Speaker 1: seventy at times he might play a little bit heavier,
Speaker 1: but you see him playing down as a four eye
Speaker 1: what we call a four which is inside the tackle,
Speaker 1: and sometimes as you know, as a three technique. Um
Speaker 1: so you can see him mix it up with the
Speaker 1: bigger guys and um so he I thought he did
Speaker 1: a really good job on his movement when they did
Speaker 1: move and um you know that you ask him to
Speaker 1: line up inside the tackle and then pop outside and
Speaker 1: get a pass rush, and uh, you know, he showed
Speaker 1: that the movement the traits that we like and so
Speaker 1: you can project that you can see, Um, he can
Speaker 1: bend them. He has quickness, and he also has long speed.
Speaker 1: You know, you see him pursuits and so you see
Speaker 1: his range. There's a lot to laugh about that not
Speaker 1: necessarily pertaining to either of these two guys, but I'm
Speaker 1: just really curious. It's an interesting perspective for you. You're
Speaker 1: part of this draft process on the coaching side for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys now, but you were also a seventh round
Speaker 1: draft pick yourself. What I guess, what's that light getting
Speaker 1: to be on both sides of this process? And is
Speaker 1: it kind of surreal helping pick a guy for a
Speaker 1: team after you've been a player and been a draft
Speaker 1: pick yourself. Yeah, it is. And the experience of going
Speaker 1: on on the road and um, you know, talking to
Speaker 1: the guy, having the guy set up to dinner, and yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean just the whole thing of seeing if he
Speaker 1: can handle all of all of these things out. You know,
Speaker 1: that is a good experience as a coach, you know,
Speaker 1: as and as an evaluator. You know, when I think
Speaker 1: about it coming up as a player and I talk
Speaker 1: to these guys I've called some of the guys that
Speaker 1: got drafted yesterday just to give them a worse of encouragement. Hey, relaxing,
Speaker 1: It's going to happen. And when you get the opportunity,
Speaker 1: you know, you got to go in with you know,
Speaker 1: I would say focused and really with the blinders on,
Speaker 1: just saying, hey, I gotta take care of me and
Speaker 1: I'm going in and it doesn't matter where I got drafted.
Speaker 1: You know, some guys get caught up into you know
Speaker 1: I got drafted or I didn't get drafted. I say, hey,
Speaker 1: you got to get a chance to show up at
Speaker 1: a NFL practice field and in an NFL locker room.
Speaker 1: You gotta take advantage of it no matter where you get.
Speaker 1: We know, we know you like to rotate a lot,
Speaker 1: and you know, keep these guys fresh. Do you anticipate
Speaker 1: Collins and Tapper being able to contribute very early from
Speaker 1: day one? Yes? We do. Mean I think you get
Speaker 1: you pick those guys at those places in the draft,
Speaker 1: you expect from to come in and be a part
Speaker 1: of a rotational and that's kind of what our scheme is,
Speaker 1: a rotational system. I mean, like I said, we are
Speaker 1: demanded on our guys to turn and run and turn
Speaker 1: and springing, you know, get up feeling. So you know,
Speaker 1: the rotation is big, you know. Yeah, Well I wonder,
Speaker 1: I wonder just before you get out of here, kat,
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about last year with with Russell,
Speaker 1: you know, with Ryan Russell and where and where where
Speaker 1: he's added in your thoughts there and then also to
Speaker 1: the adding of Benson mail walk you know where you
Speaker 1: see a couple of guys again. The tape from the
Speaker 1: Raiders looked out standing on Benson and what he was
Speaker 1: able to do. But talk about really where Russell is
Speaker 1: right now in the in your thought process here as well. Um,
Speaker 1: you know Ryan, he had his rookie year and um,
Speaker 1: you know, fifth round pick, and he showed some improvements
Speaker 1: right as he got adjusted to the speed of the game.
Speaker 1: And I think we're looking for big things for Ryan.
Speaker 1: The expectations are high, and the expectation for himself it's high. Right.
Speaker 1: He text me in a month ago as you said, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm preparing. I'm sure you're ready to go, and I'm
Speaker 1: looking forward to that to having a great season. And
Speaker 1: and that's the start. You know, he's he's focused on it. Benson. Man,
Speaker 1: we've had a businesson h he was at Seattle right
Speaker 1: and you can see the flashes and he's just continued
Speaker 1: to grow as a player. So we are really excited
Speaker 1: about both of those guys. Well, Favery Kid, Well, well,
Speaker 1: leon Let, thank you so much for joining us. Always
Speaker 1: appreciate your insight. Uh, they do. They rotate a lot
Speaker 1: of guys, see a lot of guys playing, and the
Speaker 1: big Cats one of the reasons why they get the
Speaker 1: production they do. So thanks Agi for joining us. Appreciate them,
Speaker 1: appreciate thank you guys. All Right, so let's leon Let
Speaker 1: the defensive line coach here with the Dallas Cowboys. He
Speaker 1: was instrumental in uh going out and working out a
Speaker 1: couple of guys here in a couple of draft picks,
Speaker 1: uh with MALIEK. Collins from Nebraska Charles Tapper from Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: I like what he was saying about the Oklahoma thing.
Speaker 1: You know they figured it out though, that that scheme
Speaker 1: kills those kids. I mean, I'm sorry if you're an
Speaker 1: Oklahoma fan out there, but uh, defensive Raiders, well, you
Speaker 1: look at some of the guys, it doesn't do a
Speaker 1: many favors. And they're a program. They're a great program.
Speaker 1: They're a great program, and so you know, we'll see
Speaker 1: Phillip Jones is coming in here right now. Well, Bill
Speaker 1: Jones could come in here and talk to me if
Speaker 1: he wants to do that. So anyway, no, I love
Speaker 1: Bill Jones. Okay, let's go back where we're at. Pick
Speaker 1: one fifty nine is where we're at. We'll go back
Speaker 1: and hit some picks. We talked about. Joe hag at
Speaker 1: one fifty five with to the Colts pick one fifty six.
Speaker 1: Jonathan Williams running back Dame Bruger really likes this pick.
Speaker 1: He goes to the Buffalo Bills at one fifty seven.
Speaker 1: Lashawn Simms, the defensive back from Southern Utah, goes to
Speaker 1: Tennessee Brandon Shell at one fifty eight. The offensive tackle
Speaker 1: from South Carolina is a New York Jet. And we
Speaker 1: are waiting for the Houston Texans. Who is this there
Speaker 1: pick here at fifth round, one fifty nine, and we
Speaker 1: will we'll see that here in a second. Though. Just
Speaker 1: some thoughts, Dave, from what you heard and maybe not
Speaker 1: so much from the rookie guys, you know, from Russell
Speaker 1: from Benson, Mayowa, rotational all that stuff. How do you feel,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's this is and people can people can
Speaker 1: call me a Homer if they want to, I guess,
Speaker 1: but I kind of. I was thinking about this last night.
Speaker 1: Is there's a lot of angst among Cowboys fans about
Speaker 1: the pass rush right now. Yeah, and it mainly stems
Speaker 1: from Randy Gregory and DeMarcus Lawrence. She's been available for
Speaker 1: four games. That's certainly not encouraging. Yeah, but you look
Speaker 1: at it. They've put a lot of resources into this
Speaker 1: defensive line over the last few years. I mean, going
Speaker 1: all the way back to Tyrone Crawford, who was eighty
Speaker 1: one overall in twenty twelve, who signed a contract extension.
Speaker 1: They just gave Cedric Thornton twenty million. They gave Benson
Speaker 1: Mayowa a pretty decent contract for a guy with his experience.
Speaker 1: And then you talk about Lawrence at thirty four, Gregory
Speaker 1: at sixty, MALIEK. Collins at sixty seven, and now Charles
Speaker 1: Tapper at one oh one. Yeah, and I mean there
Speaker 1: and well, I'll even throw Ryan Russell in. There's fifth
Speaker 1: round pick last year. I don't remember the number off
Speaker 1: the top of my head, but they have put a
Speaker 1: lot of talent into that rotation, and it's it's interesting
Speaker 1: to me. We don't look at it as a strength
Speaker 1: right now, because we haven't seen it. Randy Gregory doesn't
Speaker 1: have a career sack. Lawrence appears to be trading in
Speaker 1: the right direction. You hope he's right about Ryan Russell. Sure,
Speaker 1: I mean that's the great that's the great mystery, right there.
Speaker 1: No offense to Ryan Russell. Yeah, I hope he's right
Speaker 1: about Benson Mayowa. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 1: If if it's a better chance of being right about
Speaker 1: Benson Mayowa than there is Ryan Russell, Mayo is what
Speaker 1: the Cowboys think he is, then this could be a coup, honestly,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if that's going to happen. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to look at it as objectively as possible and say,
Speaker 1: this is a guy with two career sacks, who's played
Speaker 1: a limited role everywhere that he's been. But you just
Speaker 1: heard Leon. Let's say they've had an eye on him
Speaker 1: since he was in Seattle, which was two to three
Speaker 1: years ago, Yeah, a while ago. Yeah, if they've been
Speaker 1: that interested in this guy, yeah, they have a fantastic
Speaker 1: projection of what he could become, and they've got a
Speaker 1: great set of coaches to bring that out of him. Right,
Speaker 1: If he becomes something special that's going to be looked
Speaker 1: at as like this just genius steal of a move.
Speaker 1: And obviously, you know you hope Randy Gregory and too
Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence can meet their potential when they get back
Speaker 1: from their suspension. So I guess, in a roundabout way,
Speaker 1: there goes your pet cat, Brian Kentrell Brothers to Mike Zimmer,
Speaker 1: Minnesota is having a great draft. Yeah, I think well
Speaker 1: before the pick before that detections at one fifty nine
Speaker 1: took kJ Dillon s Yeah, safety from am I right
Speaker 1: from West Virginia with Karl Joseph. Yeah. So in a
Speaker 1: in a long winded way, I guess what I was
Speaker 1: trying to say is a you can't knock him for trying.
Speaker 1: They are certainly putting effort into turning that pass rush
Speaker 1: into something. It hasn't yielded results yet, but if things
Speaker 1: follow their designs, it's certainly doable. I mean it's a
Speaker 1: big if. It is a big big if. Doubt, especially
Speaker 1: with Randy Gregory. Honestly, I I think I buy that
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence isn't gonna let him let this sidetrack him.
Speaker 1: I mean, Orlando Scandrick had the same. Let's be honest.
Speaker 1: Though he could fail again. He could. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: his twelve games and he could, he could have a relapse.
Speaker 1: They felt like they had him under control. You're talking
Speaker 1: about Gregory right now. I'm sorry, I'm talking abou Lawrence. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I feel yeah, I feel confident that this
Speaker 1: can be a one time deal for Lawrence. I don't
Speaker 1: have a problem believing that Gregory is the one that
Speaker 1: scares me. He should, he should, But I mean, just
Speaker 1: as easily as he could be out of the league,
Speaker 1: he could blossom into the guy that they would hope.
Speaker 1: So I it's it's fascinating and there's really nothing to
Speaker 1: do but wait and see Minnesota at five when sixty
Speaker 1: took Kendrill Brothers. Tell everybody how great of a player
Speaker 1: this guy is. If you want a guy that's big
Speaker 1: and fast, it's not for you. But if you want
Speaker 1: a guy that's very instinctive and shows up at the
Speaker 1: spot before the blocker or the ball carrier, that's Kentroll Brothers. Uh.
Speaker 1: He's just a very aware player. He understands what the
Speaker 1: offense is trying to do. Three year starter, a Week's
Speaker 1: head linebacker led the sec in tackles. He ran a
Speaker 1: four eight nine at the combine and that's not good
Speaker 1: for a linebacker. So that's what's caused him to fall.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have those uh that above average athleticism that
Speaker 1: you want, but dude, as a competitor, the instincts are
Speaker 1: off the charts tackling machine. Yeah, I think he could
Speaker 1: play three four or four three inside. Mike Zimmer will
Speaker 1: find a spot for him, you know, And they the
Speaker 1: Vikings have done a nice job. And then think about Mike.
Speaker 1: Mike would always struggle. Mike struggled in the draft room.
Speaker 1: But Mike the last several years, the two years so
Speaker 1: now its third year being a coach, they've done a
Speaker 1: much better job of drafting. Give Rick Spielman those guys
Speaker 1: a lot of credit. It was right that the Vikings
Speaker 1: are her having. I think they're killing a great Lakwan
Speaker 1: treadwill in the first, my top receiver, McKenzie, Alexander in
Speaker 1: the second, my top corner, and then Kentroll Brothers here
Speaker 1: in the fifth. I skipped it for Willie Beavers because yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: in round five to get Kentroll Brothers. At this point,
Speaker 1: add another body to the linebacker mix an outstanding pick
Speaker 1: and then another team he's having a I think a
Speaker 1: heck of a draft is Cincinnati. They're on the they're
Speaker 1: making their pick right now. We'll see who who they
Speaker 1: add to their haul. But you look at Cincinnati William
Speaker 1: Jackson in the first round, Tyler Boyd in the second,
Speaker 1: Nick Vigil and then Andrew Billings in the fourth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: those are four really good players, an he all four
Speaker 1: can start in this league. So I like what the
Speaker 1: Bengals are doing. And then here in the fifth I
Speaker 1: pick one sixty one they go with I'm thinking they're
Speaker 1: gonna probably uh, who's our best bellable player on the board.
Speaker 1: You talked about Higgins. Higgins. Westerman was a guy that
Speaker 1: we talked about in cash who was a guy again
Speaker 1: a coach driven personal Christian Westerman right there, goes all right,
Speaker 1: that's five guys right there. I think it's starting to
Speaker 1: and that's a coach driven department right there. I've said
Speaker 1: it a bunch. Kit. You got a phone call for me, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Denny in hawaiiha um, you know when every will um
Speaker 1: with Leona coming and I wanted to say that, you know,
Speaker 1: with you know here coming from a small pretty much
Speaker 1: small school and all that. Uh. Um, you know, whenever
Speaker 1: I hear like country Strong with with Dane Bruger with
Speaker 1: Drew Live, Yeah, is he falling because of his um
Speaker 1: his arm or the surgery on his arm or you
Speaker 1: know he can we can we probably snatch him up.
Speaker 1: And then also, um, and I'm you know, Bryan Smith
Speaker 1: was my last corner that I was really looking at.
Speaker 1: Um any cornerback still yet on the board that we
Speaker 1: could take in the sixth round. Yeah, thank you, Danny
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Yeah, Drew, Yeah, yeah, he wears it. He
Speaker 1: wears elbow. When you watch him play, he wears a
Speaker 1: J J. Watt device on his arm. Looks like a Transformer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: with all that, uh the body armor on him. And
Speaker 1: then you know, I think you talk about the knee
Speaker 1: injury and the elbow. That's a big reason why he's falling.
Speaker 1: The chance that he really wasn't able to work out
Speaker 1: for teams because of the injury, because of his situation
Speaker 1: trying to go back to Iowa, that was denied. But
Speaker 1: if talking about the top corners on the board, Jalen
Speaker 1: Mills from LSU, Now again he has some baggage, but
Speaker 1: I think He's the best pure talent that's available. Harlan
Speaker 1: Miller from Southeastern Louisiana. Maurice Kennedy, I know a guy
Speaker 1: you like that? The senior? Sure? Did I still have?
Speaker 1: I had been fourth round. I've got some fourth I
Speaker 1: got some third round corners, and I've got some fourth
Speaker 1: round corners available right here. I'm interested to see when
Speaker 1: this group's gonna start coming off the board. I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: just take a cursory look. I mean, what looks like
Speaker 1: the best value to you right now? The wide receiver
Speaker 1: with Dane's talking about is Higgins, Higgins, Lawler. You know
Speaker 1: that type of group that brown Seymour. Cash is another guy.
Speaker 1: I think what we're seeing with Cash right now is
Speaker 1: he is so scheme specific. Yeah, he needs you know
Speaker 1: that Dion Buchanan Roll when Arizona took him in the
Speaker 1: first round, everyone was shocked, but they believed in that
Speaker 1: role and what he could do. And Jeremy Cash needs
Speaker 1: a team to believe in that role and what he
Speaker 1: can do because he's just a specialized player, because he's
Speaker 1: not going to be a player you want in reverse
Speaker 1: or in coverage on a constant basis. You want him
Speaker 1: moving forward, playing versa the run, and he can do it,
Speaker 1: but he needs a team to believe in him, and
Speaker 1: so far we're not to that point. Yeah. Here, Uh,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this, uh at the going forward here, Dallas,
Speaker 1: let's see, got a ways to go. Yeah, I gotta
Speaker 1: come back. I got a ways to go. I mean
Speaker 1: yeah seven. Yeah. I was trying to think maybe some
Speaker 1: guys early in that that that sixth round is uh,
Speaker 1: they lost the pick to San Francisco there early Uh,
Speaker 1: I think the early six If I write about that,
Speaker 1: I'm maybe I'm messing up a h Dallas. San Francisco
Speaker 1: got a pick from Dallas at one seventy eight in
Speaker 1: the six so yeah, they got the next time Dallas
Speaker 1: will pick would be at one eighty nine, a pick
Speaker 1: that they got at Oakland. So Denny's got a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of waiting and hoping for it. Maybe
Speaker 1: a cornerback to um to to get to him there
Speaker 1: podium another pick. Yeah. Uh this Air Force base out
Speaker 1: in Missouri. Huh. Yeah, they've they've done it up big here.
Speaker 1: It looks like the Chiefs are going to announce this pick. Um.
Speaker 1: We'll see exactly who Andy Reid and John Dorsey. Select.
Speaker 1: If I go back to my days of being with
Speaker 1: Packer guys, Dorsey and Reid both always took a quarterback
Speaker 1: at some point in time, and they lost. They lost
Speaker 1: Chase Daniel lost Chase Daniel. So maybe they're looking for,
Speaker 1: said Brandon Allen's fits what they want to do. UM's
Speaker 1: talk about the quarter Kevin Hogan. Maybegan Hogan's on the board.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's something yet. I mean, but the
Speaker 1: Packer way was always to take a quarterback at some
Speaker 1: point in time. But you're right, replaced Chase Daniel with
Speaker 1: with a with a quarterback that villain Hogan dresscal the
Speaker 1: top three quarterbacks on my board. Well, let's see who
Speaker 1: they take. Kevin Hogan. There we go. So solid pick.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's ever gonna start in this league,
Speaker 1: but or you know, consistently, but as a number two
Speaker 1: or a guy that can be a spot starter, right,
Speaker 1: I think it's a solid pick. Yeah. The measurables clearly
Speaker 1: are there. Six three two hund eighteen pounds. I'd say
Speaker 1: this though, when you watch him now, everything underneath the
Speaker 1: intermediate stuff, I mean, he could kind of touch that
Speaker 1: stuff around. I don't think he has a huge arm
Speaker 1: by any meets, But when you watch him throw the
Speaker 1: ball down the field, it's almost like he's strolling with
Speaker 1: the javelins he has. He has to wind it up
Speaker 1: to get it there. He's gotta put like it takes
Speaker 1: like four steps and he's gotta put his whole body.
Speaker 1: Look at that he's jumping. I mean both feet are
Speaker 1: coming off the field when he makes these throws. But
Speaker 1: you know, again, fifth round, we're talking about quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: with the guys that are still potentially on the board.
Speaker 1: He was. He was one of Brandon Allen driscoll. Uh.
Speaker 1: Dave talked about had a lot of love for Cardinal Jones.
Speaker 1: Cardel Hey, Cardinal Jones makes that throw, the javelin throw,
Speaker 1: He does that with his wrist, He just flicks it. Well,
Speaker 1: I think Dave's right about it. If this guy's a
Speaker 1: winner though, I mean, he played a pro style scheme
Speaker 1: and and and you know Dave Shaw, who's the head
Speaker 1: coach at Stanford, man he be this player is tough guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's so tough mentally and physically. Uh, you know, there's
Speaker 1: something to be said about guys that will their team
Speaker 1: to victories. Yes, I know, Christian McCaffrey is a big
Speaker 1: part of Stanford success last year. But what he brought
Speaker 1: to that quarterback position, what he could do, I think
Speaker 1: that will translate to the NFL. Okay, so it Uh,
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs take Kevin Hogan. That means the
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers are now on the cloud. Just drive
Speaker 1: to Trevor Davis ahead, Okay, any Lawler there we go.
Speaker 1: Trevor Davis, I warned you about this. Yeah, you can
Speaker 1: warn you. This could happen. Trevor David. The special teams.
Speaker 1: I think that's what gives him the edge over Lawler. Here.
Speaker 1: Uh what Trevor Davis brings on special teams as a
Speaker 1: return man. Uh, very interesting pick here for Green Bay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and again Lawler being on the board, Higgins on the board,
Speaker 1: still listed be on the board. You know that's uh.
Speaker 1: I have Higgins and I have Higgins in the third round, Lawler,
Speaker 1: Lawler's gonna make Lawler's gonna go somewhere. I compared him
Speaker 1: to the player the former cow player that's out with
Speaker 1: the Chargers right now, Bruin and Keenan Allen. He might
Speaker 1: not be able to run it as fast as like Keenan.
Speaker 1: I mean Keena's not fast. But this Lawler kid, you watch,
Speaker 1: there's plenty of bad ball catch And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that Golf through everything bad, but there are several times
Speaker 1: where he has to make adjusting catches like somebody's gonna
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna take Golf knew that, I mean golf, knew
Speaker 1: that he could throw it. He doesn't have to be
Speaker 1: pinpoint accurate. He knew he could throw it a little
Speaker 1: bit farther away from the defender, and that Lawler would
Speaker 1: go get it. The biggest thing with Lawlers. While he
Speaker 1: makes some ridiculous catches, the best you've ever seen, he'll
Speaker 1: he'll drop some of your d drops, some easy one
Speaker 1: he drop. I'm very surprised he's still on the board
Speaker 1: at this point. H Trevor Davis again one of only
Speaker 1: twenty players ever in FBS history to have two kick
Speaker 1: returns for touchdowns on the same game. So again, that
Speaker 1: special team a big reason why I think he's off
Speaker 1: the board ahead of Lawlor. Okay, so now the pick
Speaker 1: at one sixty four is belongs to the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 1: This is a selection that they got from the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 1: Um let's Philadelphia we've we've talked about what how do
Speaker 1: we feel about their offensive line? There was some you know,
Speaker 1: some questions about really better about it today than I
Speaker 1: did yesterday. I mean yeah, I like that Somalo kid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I mean I know they have, um Jason Kelsey,
Speaker 1: maybe some depth problems there, a little bit with you know,
Speaker 1: I mean maybe this. Uh, do you have anybody in mine?
Speaker 1: I mean we've we've we've talked about with Green, Alexander
Speaker 1: uh Tiatulo Tiatula. The Arkansas guy was ala, I'm sorry
Speaker 1: I should have used my pronunciation. Guy. Actually, it's sitting
Speaker 1: right in front of it, sitting right in front of me. Uh.
Speaker 1: The Kyle Murphy was a guy that we we kind
Speaker 1: of targeted a little bit on some on some stuff. Uh. Any.
Speaker 1: I just can't always feel like, at this point in time,
Speaker 1: you look for a value pick at an offensive line spot. Hey,
Speaker 1: I mean they just brought I mean, Lane Johnson's gonna
Speaker 1: be around there for a while. Yeah. They signed to
Speaker 1: Amalu behind Kelsey. I guess. I mean Peters is the
Speaker 1: big variable there. He's getting up there. He's no spring chicken.
Speaker 1: It was the tackle from TCU that I can't pronounce
Speaker 1: his name. That's a long name. Ain't say big v
Speaker 1: this samoan? Yes, go ahead, yeah, go ahead. I can't
Speaker 1: pronounce it, Come on, can't. I went I'm looking at
Speaker 1: I'm looking at a really long first name and a
Speaker 1: really short last. Okay, it's Halla, Hallapouli, Vonti va Ti
Speaker 1: that say that right? It's down there to the bed
Speaker 1: Halla Poli Okay, Halla Pooli. But wait, hollow say it?
Speaker 1: You put both you put them both on here, you
Speaker 1: put vat and Viti. It's both names. It's his full name.
Speaker 1: It's his full name of his first name. Yeah, oh
Speaker 1: my god, that's foot. I don't Cowboys, please don't draft him.
Speaker 1: I don't need to be writing that over and over.
Speaker 1: He's known as big. That doesn't make sense. Yeah, Bill
Speaker 1: big Va. But we're talking about offensive lineman. I thought
Speaker 1: you had two different pronunciations. No, No, that's his whole name.
Speaker 1: But anyway, yeah, but Philadelphia, uh were where's some value
Speaker 1: though on this board? Uh? For we've talked about the receiver,
Speaker 1: we've talked about, talked about Richard Higgins, talk about specific
Speaker 1: a couple of other defense mana cavige. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is Philadelphia could they take, could they take a good spot?
Speaker 1: Can they take a Temple player at Manda Cavidge, you
Speaker 1: know the linebacker Philly guy. So yeah, just keep drafting
Speaker 1: the Temple out. How crazy is that? Well, the picks in,
Speaker 1: let's see for the Eagles, it's pick five, one sixty
Speaker 1: four and uh, we're we're kind of patiently wait talking
Speaker 1: about everybody's favorite German receiver on the TV. Yeah, did
Speaker 1: you have an idea about the German receiver? Did you
Speaker 1: see anything on him? I mean this, I don't like
Speaker 1: we're showing clips right here. It means nothing because he's
Speaker 1: he's playing against me, He's spending against me outside. I'm
Speaker 1: not even you. He's playing eighth graders. I mean, these
Speaker 1: guys are these guys would not play a Division three
Speaker 1: ye college football. Yeah. Um, and so it's hard to
Speaker 1: the tape means nothing. It's all about the measurables. And
Speaker 1: a guy tested off the charts really the height, weight, speed.
Speaker 1: So I won't shock me at all if this guy
Speaker 1: gets drafted. Yeah. Well that that that Uh, well, we'll
Speaker 1: see if it, in fact, that is a case Eagle
Speaker 1: selection is in. Uh, let's see if they run it
Speaker 1: across the crawl. Uh, and see where we're at with
Speaker 1: all that we've we've talked about potentially offensive line here, receiver, Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, just the players that were mentioned right now.
Speaker 1: You're trying to find guys here in the fifth round
Speaker 1: with some traits and and uh, we'll see if in
Speaker 1: fact who they select. The Cowboys don't have a pick
Speaker 1: until one eighty nine, where it pick one sixty five.
Speaker 1: So long, wait, they got the quarterback that they wanted.
Speaker 1: It seems like that it Oh yeah, Dak Prescott mean
Speaker 1: today has been arguably their best day so far. I think,
Speaker 1: I mean, I love the Zeke pick. But well, we'll
Speaker 1: see what happens. Either drafted an All Pro player in
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith, or it goes into the long line of
Speaker 1: Cowboys second round picks that never play. We'll see, given
Speaker 1: their history over the last decade. And you and he,
Speaker 1: it was it was documented, it was well documented that
Speaker 1: oh here's here's the pick. There he is who was
Speaker 1: drafted Brian, Uh, this would be oh pul vt Viti
Speaker 1: vt Ytai. And I'm sure there's some folks out there
Speaker 1: at TCU Land that are just totally upset with what
Speaker 1: the way, but uh, yes, he is now a philadel
Speaker 1: Alf Eagles, So we get I get to evaluate that, uh,
Speaker 1: get to evaluate that that uh player down there and
Speaker 1: at TCU, he played at both the left and right sides. Um,
Speaker 1: he does a nice job of kind of just getting
Speaker 1: in the way. A wide bodied guy. Not might not
Speaker 1: be an overpowering player, but he keeps defenders busy. And
Speaker 1: I think that's the name of the game is to
Speaker 1: get is to block these defenders. And might not always
Speaker 1: look pretty with Big V, but he gets a job
Speaker 1: done more times than not. Yeah, I kind of saw
Speaker 1: a little bit of slow footed guys, a little bit
Speaker 1: worried about that kind of he has a wide base,
Speaker 1: real wide basse, real wide base for him. So okay,
Speaker 1: so Big V is uh. I say, I apologize to
Speaker 1: all the TCU folk out there. Sorry, and uh, but
Speaker 1: the guy played in our city. You think we could
Speaker 1: learning of TCU, Yes, Philip, I believe from France who
Speaker 1: we spoke with earlier. Yes, TCU, listen to me. Is
Speaker 1: still on the board. Do you think it's gonna last too? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Our next pick? Yeah. Kid. By the way, you have
Speaker 1: some Twitter questions in there that people a couple of
Speaker 1: oh it's a pick Kansas City. Though, Tyreek Hill, the
Speaker 1: widest fascinating pick, right, Yeah, Tyreek Hill, the wide receiver
Speaker 1: from West Alabama, is now part of the KANCI Chiefs
Speaker 1: pick five. Oklahoma State fans know all about Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 1: This dude is fast. He was kicked off the team
Speaker 1: for domestic incident, pretty ugly stuff, and so you know
Speaker 1: he he kind of was kicked out of the Oklahoma
Speaker 1: State program. Tried to at one point go to Akron.
Speaker 1: That didn't work out. Uh so you wind it up
Speaker 1: at West Alabama and you know, is he a running
Speaker 1: back as a receiver. He's an athlete. The guy can fly,
Speaker 1: and so I mean very interested that they took a
Speaker 1: chance on him at this point. The character stuff, the
Speaker 1: baggage is a very heavy baggage is very heavy. I get. Well.
Speaker 1: I mean, you saw the Seahawks take your boy Frank
Speaker 1: Clark last year and right second third, I believe it
Speaker 1: was the second round pick, yeah, second, that's right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So obviously teams are still willing to take a chance
Speaker 1: on that guy for the talent. And I mean it's
Speaker 1: pick one sixty five. But with all of the emphasis
Speaker 1: and talk about domestic violence in the NFL, these days.
Speaker 1: It's always fascinating to me when a team is willing
Speaker 1: to pull that trigger despite all the baggage that comes
Speaker 1: with that. Okay, Tyreek Hill at five one sixty five
Speaker 1: West Alabama transfer from Oklahoma State. He is a Kansas
Speaker 1: City chief. John Dorsey and them made that selection where
Speaker 1: it pick five one sixty six that belongs to the
Speaker 1: Houston Texans. The pick is in for the Texans. Uh,
Speaker 1: could go a bunch of different I think the Texans
Speaker 1: have done a pretty nice job drafted. We've talked about
Speaker 1: the offensive talent they've added. Rock Osweiler's gonna be the
Speaker 1: happiest guy in Houston. Three fourth scheme with the Texans,
Speaker 1: Zoe and what they do. DJ Reader the defensive tacos
Speaker 1: se your bull guy, man, he is a load inside.
Speaker 1: Dan like that and Vince will Folk is getting a
Speaker 1: little old, you know. DJ Reader could be that that
Speaker 1: nose tackle in the waiting now for Houston. Great pick
Speaker 1: here in the fifth round. I think based on just
Speaker 1: his ability and his talent, you're talking about a third
Speaker 1: round player. Uh, you know, some accountability to issues there
Speaker 1: as well. Um, you know there were some issues at
Speaker 1: beginning of the season. He took a leave of absence
Speaker 1: from the team. But when he was on the field,
Speaker 1: UH watched watching against Alabama. Yeah, the way he can
Speaker 1: stack the point of attack, Uh two gap. I mean
Speaker 1: he's a true true nose guard, a guy that can,
Speaker 1: you know, clog things up and also make plays on
Speaker 1: the ball. So DJ reader goes to the Houston Texans.
Speaker 1: Dane uh painted a very nice picture of what he
Speaker 1: potentially can do in that three four scheme. Uh down
Speaker 1: there with the Texans is now puts Arizona on the clocket.
Speaker 1: Pick five one six D seven, Uh Kent, I was
Speaker 1: gonna go to you some for some Twitter questions. Go
Speaker 1: ahead and hit me on a couple them, if you will.
Speaker 1: This one's from Zeke two k rushing yards there we
Speaker 1: go some handle yep. If it were you, what would
Speaker 1: you address in the next round. Cornerback, linebacker or receiver? Well,
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think that you know, the situation
Speaker 1: at cornerback. They've got some young guys they like Dave,
Speaker 1: Yeah they do. They do have some young guys that
Speaker 1: they do like, sure, but they they've also though, uh,
Speaker 1: you know that the wide receiver part of it, though,
Speaker 1: uh is a it could be a big part of
Speaker 1: it as well. I mean, we we talked about, uh listen,
Speaker 1: be In what he potentially could do, be a guy
Speaker 1: that to down the field type of a player. For
Speaker 1: some reason, I'm I'm not as focused on wide receiver
Speaker 1: as I think a lot of people are. And that's
Speaker 1: I mean. I know Terence Williams entering a contract year, right,
Speaker 1: I know that they had their struggles with as Bryan
Speaker 1: out last year. Um, but if it's me, I think
Speaker 1: it's got to be a defensive back. And honestly, I'm
Speaker 1: getting it's still they got a waste to go. There's
Speaker 1: still twenty two picks until the Cowboys pick. But I
Speaker 1: like these names that I see here, whether it's Jeremy
Speaker 1: Cash yep, Um is our guy, our guy, Kennedy's still around,
Speaker 1: Cannidy is still there, our guy, another senior Bowl guy
Speaker 1: that you might remember. Oh, Nick Eatman is celebrating somewhere.
Speaker 1: Marquis Christian. Yep, he's been mocking him to the Cowboys
Speaker 1: in the sixth this whole time. He goes in the fifth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Marquis Christian from Midwestern state. So Nick Eatman very happy
Speaker 1: about pull up Nick's Twitter feed. I bet he'll have
Speaker 1: something do you think he's going nuts right now? I
Speaker 1: bet he's I bet he'd be more pumped if he
Speaker 1: was going to be a cowboy. But yeah, Mary Christian
Speaker 1: Midwestern state but a finisher thought though about the cowboys? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, you look at it. So Jeremy
Speaker 1: Cash still there, um Maurice Kennedy's still there. Harlan Miller
Speaker 1: is another guy that I who is still there. And
Speaker 1: again there's a ways to wait. But you see Mills
Speaker 1: as a kid. How did I forget the guy that
Speaker 1: went to my own school. He's got position flex which
Speaker 1: makes sense, could play safety or corner right played at
Speaker 1: a big time program, which they've clearly shown a pension
Speaker 1: for over the last couple of years. Um So I
Speaker 1: like the value that you see at that position a
Speaker 1: lot right now. Again, it's a ways to wait, so
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to project, but that's where I'm going.
Speaker 1: I think that's really the last big must. Yeah, is
Speaker 1: a dB do you do you do you buy into
Speaker 1: what we maybe you know hearing in the hallways with
Speaker 1: Derek Dooley and Lissa be Oh, it wouldn't surprise me
Speaker 1: at all. It wouldn't surprise me at all. I think, listen,
Speaker 1: Be's a good bet. Who um our boy. Higgins hasn't gone,
Speaker 1: has he? No, he has not. Higgins was a visit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly clearly like him. Yeah, no, you're I mean winning
Speaker 1: doubt defer to the thirty right, absolutely, no, absolutely. If
Speaker 1: if Higgins is there, listen, be's another guy. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to think if there's any am I forgetting something. Well,
Speaker 1: we talked about Lawlor was mine, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: They might. They might go for a guy with more speed.
Speaker 1: I mean they might. That might be the guys taking
Speaker 1: of Derek Dooley speaking of guys Marquez nor Marques North.
Speaker 1: But we saw markuz North and Marques North was a
Speaker 1: guy that we had on our board of right around
Speaker 1: the fifth round. I think we even mocked him to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and the and the fifth round. So we
Speaker 1: will see if in fact that's going to be the case.
Speaker 1: This is just a little nick eatman run right here
Speaker 1: because because he's got an ass. I was not expecting that.
Speaker 1: Thank you, ken Uh you got Marquis Christian going for
Speaker 1: a while since I've been able to got Marquis Christian
Speaker 1: for Midwestern State going. And then the pick right after
Speaker 1: that to Cleveland is Spencer Drango. Spencer Drango right the
Speaker 1: Baylor guard tackle Baylor reunion going on up in Cleveland
Speaker 1: between RG three Cory Coleman and Spencer Drango. Yep, sure
Speaker 1: that's fun. Spencer Durango was a guy though. You know,
Speaker 1: a lot of people thought about him. And when I
Speaker 1: started talking about the those guys that are a little
Speaker 1: bit maybe slow footed, but but a massive guy. I
Speaker 1: mean when you look at his his measurables here, I think,
Speaker 1: let me pull him up on my h my guard
Speaker 1: originally into the tackle area, but now let me look
Speaker 1: at my guards. Yeah, spent we pulled right up there.
Speaker 1: Spencer Ango. He played left tackle at Baylor. I thought
Speaker 1: he had more hands, more hands he than punch. It
Speaker 1: was a one arm blocker a lot of the time,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean he always didn't see him get
Speaker 1: both hands in there. I didn't think he was very Smoothmaller,
Speaker 1: I say, his hands are all over place. He's one
Speaker 1: of those guys that takes his guy where he wants
Speaker 1: to go. He's not gonna sit there and drive somebody
Speaker 1: off the ball. Six five three fifteen is is what
Speaker 1: the measurables on him. I did see some power when
Speaker 1: he's punched when he did punch, but he didn't always
Speaker 1: do that. It's some trouble with his lateral slide as
Speaker 1: will I'm maybe why people think he needs to be
Speaker 1: a guard. But he turned out right there on the
Speaker 1: highlights that we're watching right there. I ain't met him
Speaker 1: in Waco at Baylor's pro day, and I mean this
Speaker 1: is easy to say. I mean, he's got a beard.
Speaker 1: That's not why I'm about to compare him Travis Frederick. Right,
Speaker 1: he reminds me of Travis Frederick. And a personality standpoint,
Speaker 1: he's he gets it. He's very m he's a friendly guy.
Speaker 1: First of all, he's just savvy. I think that probably
Speaker 1: applies to his play as well. Um. And I think,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if he if he becomes something
Speaker 1: up there in Cleveland, I think he'll probably be a
Speaker 1: go to guy for fans and media alike that type.
Speaker 1: So Cleveland takes Spencer Durango the guard tackle, I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna probably play guard. He's listed here in a
Speaker 1: sheet as a tackle. Uh. And then now the Detroit
Speaker 1: Lions are on the clock, and this is the last
Speaker 1: and this is the regular pick of round five. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then and then we get into the compensatory factors. Uh, Kent,
Speaker 1: do you have another anymore Twitter questions? We can get to.
Speaker 1: This one comes from John L. Just to backtrack a bit, Okay,
Speaker 1: we know any other athletes in the past who have
Speaker 1: had the same injury as Jalen Smith? And how did
Speaker 1: they closest? Is? Uh is your guy with the as
Speaker 1: far as trying to the basketball guy, No, he's talking
Speaker 1: about the No Jalen Smith's injury. There was a guy
Speaker 1: and I think somebody in basketball had this injury. But
Speaker 1: that's not what you. Well, I was I was thinking
Speaker 1: about Lattimore. I was thinking about Lattimore running. Yeah, who
Speaker 1: came from South Carolina. It's not there. Yeah, and they
Speaker 1: and they were able never able to get him on
Speaker 1: the field. Again, I don't think they make this pick
Speaker 1: if they didn't have doctor Cooper do the surgery. I
Speaker 1: really don't feel like that that was going to be
Speaker 1: the case at all. I felt like that that Evidently
Speaker 1: he's he's felt like that, uh that he could he
Speaker 1: could do this, and uh that you know, and I
Speaker 1: and I, Hey, I trust doctor Cooper. But it's like
Speaker 1: to say, Okay, Denver Denver. Assume Detroit took Antwine Williams,
Speaker 1: a linebacker from Georgia's Southern at the five one sixty nine,
Speaker 1: and then uh, now Arizona is on the clock, and
Speaker 1: the Grand and Gilbert thank you for football tournament players.
Speaker 1: Welcome team Cardinals. Make the pick. Make the pick. With
Speaker 1: the one hundred and seventieth pick in the twenty sixteen
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinals select Cole Toner, a tackle
Speaker 1: from Harvard Universe. All right, coleton had has to be
Speaker 1: very happy. Coletoner is a Senior Bowl veteran. Uh and
Speaker 1: so we will uh oh yeah, I remember the Harvard
Speaker 1: Remember remember the Harvard guy. You remember the Harvard guy
Speaker 1: trying to block Noah Spence. That that that that would
Speaker 1: be something what he's probably gonna have to deal with
Speaker 1: a little bit here in the National Football League. That
Speaker 1: wasn't always the most successful thing for him. Just notes
Speaker 1: on him. I have from him lined up as a
Speaker 1: right tackle there for the Crimson a little bit quickness
Speaker 1: off the ball, feet need to be has the feet,
Speaker 1: but needs a better punch, works man the outside mire
Speaker 1: and adjust plays on his feet. Will struggle with the
Speaker 1: inside block. So if people come down inside on him.
Speaker 1: He just that means if you don't have much strength,
Speaker 1: they'd be able to handle that. He needs to get
Speaker 1: to the edge a little bit quicker sets, better sets
Speaker 1: as a game war on that was a senior ball
Speaker 1: going back and watching that. But just doesn't have the
Speaker 1: lower power and his doesn't have power in his lower
Speaker 1: body just to sit down and gets a little bit
Speaker 1: overextended and trouble when he gets doesn't get his hands inside.
Speaker 1: That means that people get into him and are able
Speaker 1: to drive him back. So cole Toner, he gets to
Speaker 1: go to the he gets to go to the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: Cardinals here, and so go back to that tweet for
Speaker 1: a second. I just, uh, And this is something that
Speaker 1: you would hear Jason Garrett and Jerry and Stephen Jones
Speaker 1: say all the time. And I don't I don't think
Speaker 1: it counts as a cop out. I think it's true.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking about Marcus Latimore. Obviously, Marcus Lattimore
Speaker 1: did not have an NFL career as a result of
Speaker 1: that injury. But I'm not gonna look at that as
Speaker 1: the barometer for for what I should expect from Jalen Smith.
Speaker 1: I mean, no, two people are the same. No, two players,
Speaker 1: the way that two people react to an injury are
Speaker 1: not the same. And I know it's it's not the
Speaker 1: same injury. I'm not trying to say that it is.
Speaker 1: But I'll never get over how stunned I was that
Speaker 1: Morris Claiborne made it back in time for training camp
Speaker 1: last year. After these trainers are good, I mean, and
Speaker 1: they're they're, they're, they're gonna he's gonna be it's for
Speaker 1: one year. Yeah, we saw all the all the indications
Speaker 1: is that he's gonna be with Britt Brown for a
Speaker 1: year and we'll probably see him. I'm gonna get used
Speaker 1: to seeing him on the yellow chords out there practice,
Speaker 1: get to see him. It's gonna be a lot of
Speaker 1: things so Britt Brown. But it's gonna have to do
Speaker 1: to try and bring him back. But I will go
Speaker 1: as I don't agree with Jerry Jones that I feel
Speaker 1: confident saying he's not going to play a snap in
Speaker 1: twenty six I don't think so either. And again, if
Speaker 1: he plays in twenty seventeen, they've dragged again. I said
Speaker 1: it on TV two, Seattle's pick is in Uh, this
Speaker 1: is pick one seventy one in the fifth round. But
Speaker 1: I I said, with confidence, if this is a pick
Speaker 1: that you make if you've got job security, yeah, if
Speaker 1: you feel like that, you know, and if you run
Speaker 1: your draft that way where it's like And Dame Bruley
Speaker 1: even said, there's some people that came up in the
Speaker 1: second round said well we would have taken him. Maybe
Speaker 1: there's teams that feel really, really really good about the
Speaker 1: about the surgery, yea and Alex College. Whoa, Seattle, check
Speaker 1: out Seattle. You have Seattles. You have Seattle's all their
Speaker 1: picks in front of you. By any chance, I can
Speaker 1: pull them up in an instant. Okay, thank you Internet.
Speaker 1: Seattle has drafted Germain, Effettie, Jeron Reed, CJ. Procise. They
Speaker 1: got a running back there, Nick Vanette, Reese, Odiambo Okay,
Speaker 1: offensive line, Quentin Jefferson. I like this draft a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And now Alex Collins, well, Procie and Collins. So they
Speaker 1: go to wide, they go to and keep in my
Speaker 1: money back. He's coming off a broken leg. But Thomas
Speaker 1: Rawls is still there too. I mean, obviously Marshawn Lynch retired.
Speaker 1: No think Sea Mike can get it done. Hey, he's
Speaker 1: there too, yeah, he is there. You're right about that, Kent. Well,
Speaker 1: they probably think that something's going to happen to see Mike,
Speaker 1: so uh we think so. Yeah, Alex Collins Dane goes
Speaker 1: to the Seattle Seahawks at pick we're in compensatory land
Speaker 1: five one seventy one process and Colins Yeah, before that,
Speaker 1: Cole Toner goes to Arizona at five one seventy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got him as well. And so now we're waiting
Speaker 1: for the Cleveland Browns. Uh. Their their selection is let's
Speaker 1: see is uh they haven't shown it in but they
Speaker 1: are on the clock as we speak. As we get
Speaker 1: to uh the last let's say one, two, three, four picks.
Speaker 1: We got back to back Cleveland Brown picks here at
Speaker 1: one seventy two and then at one seventy three to
Speaker 1: carry this draft, to get us to the end that
Speaker 1: I see a Midwestern state. Sure did, sure, Christian and
Speaker 1: were and we need you into here for Midwestern state
Speaker 1: type things because you're the expert on all things Midwestern state,
Speaker 1: you and Nick Eatman. I'll be honest when when Nick
Speaker 1: Eatman told me this kid was gonna get drafted, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, okay, Midwestern state Homer, sure thing, and
Speaker 1: there he goes in the fifth round, keeps mocking him
Speaker 1: to us. Oh yeah player, and he had a great
Speaker 1: Pro day too, round a four four. Yeah. It was
Speaker 1: very productive at Midwestern State. Ninety five tackles as a senior.
Speaker 1: He leaves as a the holds all time record for
Speaker 1: career tackles at Midwestern State with almost three hundred. Very
Speaker 1: physical player, but he's also an athlete. So I gave
Speaker 1: him a PFA grade, but I didn't feel great about
Speaker 1: it because the tape show is a very good player. Yea.
Speaker 1: All right, well we're still waiting. Here's this like, oh,
Speaker 1: Rashad Higgins, that's what that's the fifth receiver Cleveland drafted.
Speaker 1: I think, well, unless you include the Princeton kid, a
Speaker 1: tight end, so that's the fourth receiver they're they're they're
Speaker 1: trying to totally remake their obviously remake their wide receiver group.
Speaker 1: Corey Coleman, Ricardo Lewis, Seth DeValve, he's a tight end.
Speaker 1: We think Jared Jordan Payton, excuse me, Jared Payton's the
Speaker 1: running back of Walter's son. And now Richard Higgins. That's amazing,
Speaker 1: that's what you put about that, Dad, I mean I
Speaker 1: think that. Yeah, well, let me know, let me think
Speaker 1: about let me let me ask you the question. Because
Speaker 1: you guys understand numbers. I understand watching the tape, and
Speaker 1: I understand you understand watching the tape. But there's all
Speaker 1: come a point in time that these numbers choke you
Speaker 1: from maybe selecting somebody else. I mean, you know, they've
Speaker 1: got a lot of picks, but four wide receivers in
Speaker 1: this draft. Well, and what they're doing is interesting because
Speaker 1: some of these picks scream analytics and testing numbers. But
Speaker 1: then some of these other picks, say the scouts, Jordan
Speaker 1: Payton is not an explosive athlete, tested really well. Richard
Speaker 1: Higgins is not an explosive athlete, tested really well. These
Speaker 1: are scout picks, and so the Browns are mixing both
Speaker 1: of these the analytics also with scouting, so they're not
Speaker 1: just focusing on one part of the scouting process. They're
Speaker 1: using everything to add more playmakers because this team is
Speaker 1: void of the playmakers. Yeah, well that's it just seems
Speaker 1: so if the numbers are I mean, and you're right
Speaker 1: about Peyton, I mean, he's not going to be the
Speaker 1: testing guy. But man, I mean it just seems like
Speaker 1: a little bit overkill. And then now they take a
Speaker 1: cornerback Trey Calwell from a Luigiana Munroe. Uh. Any thoughts
Speaker 1: on him day? He was an undersized guy, but he's speedy.
Speaker 1: He's fast, um, and I think that's the biggest that
Speaker 1: that speed. I think he ran in the four threes
Speaker 1: at his pro day and that's really what's going to
Speaker 1: save him. Okay, but you know he's undersized, and so
Speaker 1: he's a slot only. Uh you know he might have
Speaker 1: he has a chance to be maybe a dime corner right. Uh.
Speaker 1: I didn't have him draft. I had him more as
Speaker 1: a priority free agent. But right at this point, late
Speaker 1: in fifth round, I could understand why they go that round. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Trey Cooper defensive back from Caldwell, right, Tray got call? Well,
Speaker 1: excuse me, Trey Calwell defends it back Louisiana Munroe. Uh.
Speaker 1: The now the San Francisco forty nine ers are on
Speaker 1: the clock. Uh, Dave, do you have the forty nine
Speaker 1: ers and who all they've taken? I got it right here.
Speaker 1: Please if you just refresh my DeForest Buckner Seventh Joshua
Speaker 1: Garnett out of Stanford will offensive lineman, there Will Redmond corner,
Speaker 1: Richard Robinson another corner, Ronald Blair, and John Thas. Okay,
Speaker 1: so two of their picks have been offensive lineman if
Speaker 1: I'm right, two oh lineman, a D lineman and two dbs. Okay,
Speaker 1: I just kind of kind of no, I'm sorry, two
Speaker 1: D lineman, Blair and Buckner. Yeah, so the forty nine
Speaker 1: ers pick is in and be interested to see. I
Speaker 1: like a lot of these drafts. I like this draft.
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys love Blair, everybody loves Buckner, right,
Speaker 1: that's to you add him to Eric Armstead, who's already there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, what's the team? The calls gonna go face, Well,
Speaker 1: we're probably gonna see a lot those guys that be
Speaker 1: interested to see where they all again? Where at pick
Speaker 1: one seventy four, it's a compensatory pick, it's a fifth
Speaker 1: round pick. The forty nine ers are trying to hand
Speaker 1: this card in right now and we'll see who in
Speaker 1: fact they take. Dave went through their draft. It's been
Speaker 1: I feel like a very good draft. A lot of
Speaker 1: value at sun picks. Okay, Fawn Cooper the tackle from
Speaker 1: Old Miss at the five one seventy five when Larrmy
Speaker 1: Tunsel was suspended to the first seven games of this
Speaker 1: past season. Von Cooper, who's the right tackle, moved over
Speaker 1: to left tackle. And I'll tell you what, there wasn't
Speaker 1: a huge drop off in terms of you know, left
Speaker 1: tackle was not a weak spot for that Old Miss team.
Speaker 1: Von Cooper did a nice job at left tackle. Then
Speaker 1: he kicked back the right tackle when Larrmy Tunsel returned
Speaker 1: to the lineup, and I thought he did an outstanding
Speaker 1: job at right tackle at this Shrine game. I thought
Speaker 1: he was one of the best players there. So you know,
Speaker 1: Von Cooper, I think there's an excellent pick here. Former
Speaker 1: Bowling Green Falcon transfer. Yeah, Von Cooper. What I had
Speaker 1: on him of my notes is uh, I thought he
Speaker 1: got a little top heavy at times, but need to
Speaker 1: do a little bit better job and sustained better balance
Speaker 1: on down blocks. Can you could pull this guy off
Speaker 1: balance a little bit. His hands will go to the
Speaker 1: outside lumbers a little bit in space, but when he
Speaker 1: wants to punch, he could punch, and he could he
Speaker 1: could sustain a little bit on that second level. But
Speaker 1: he gets a little trouble and his head gets down.
Speaker 1: So we'll see how faon Cooper thought he could run
Speaker 1: a little hot and cold with his technique, is what
Speaker 1: I thought about. Von Cooper goes from old miss H
Speaker 1: to H. The let's see the San Francisco four yards.
Speaker 1: So the last pick in the Competitia story, picks at
Speaker 1: one seventy five, belongs to the San Diego Chargers. We
Speaker 1: will see who, in fact they take. Is anybody on
Speaker 1: your board. You guys are really excited about here. You
Speaker 1: stepped out for a second, but I was, I mean,
Speaker 1: of all the positions the Cowboys might want to take
Speaker 1: a look at, there's a decent number of solid dbs
Speaker 1: sitting there that might fall to them. An interesting name,
Speaker 1: Scooby Wright, super productive in college, but a marginal athlete.
Speaker 1: And so oh Tavis Brown. Davis Brown. Now there's one
Speaker 1: another one, my pet cat. Yeah, yeah, we both. I
Speaker 1: really liked J. Tavis Brown. If not for the size, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, he would go a lot higher. But you know,
Speaker 1: when you're when you're that small, when you're under five
Speaker 1: eleven as a linebacker, uh, you know, thirty one inch arms,
Speaker 1: obviously theres a red flags. This guy's a missile all
Speaker 1: over the field of four or fourth speed. Uh, he
Speaker 1: is not afraid to hitch us. So he makes a
Speaker 1: ton a ton of plays when you watch him, when
Speaker 1: you watch him work, and he's and if tell you what,
Speaker 1: you watch him a coverage, Yeah, they when they reel
Speaker 1: route on him. Man, he could run up the field
Speaker 1: outstanding it doing that. I totally agree with you, Dane
Speaker 1: on the tie of a player. Just scrolling down through
Speaker 1: my notes here about brown quickness to get the outside.
Speaker 1: He could CD. He has the speed to carry his man.
Speaker 1: I told you about that. He'll could test the ball.
Speaker 1: I think the lack of link hurts him a little bits.
Speaker 1: He plays with awareness, recognition, He finds the football. He
Speaker 1: could be disruptive as a blitzer, covers some ground from
Speaker 1: the backside, a lot of positive traits. The problem is
Speaker 1: though he's a five ten six guy, he's two hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty one pounds. But you know here we are
Speaker 1: sitting here in the end of the fifth round, UH,
Speaker 1: San Diego and a three fourth scheme. You get a
Speaker 1: guy that could could maybe come in and help you
Speaker 1: a little bit as a as a maybe as a
Speaker 1: will linebacker. Yeah, and I had a chance. I talked
Speaker 1: with UH with Jatavis back in October. He did and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, did did some work on him, and he
Speaker 1: told me that he loves special teams and I think
Speaker 1: that's really where he's going to make his head and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, shine as a special team's demon as he
Speaker 1: tries to, you know, fight for snaps on defense, but
Speaker 1: special teams is where he's going to shine for San Diego. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos at this pick, now, the start the
Speaker 1: top of the sixth round. This would be pick one
Speaker 1: seventy six. The pick is in. I always expect like
Speaker 1: Goodell to come out and be like, the sixth round
Speaker 1: is started. No, no, it's rolling right. Yeah, we're just
Speaker 1: we're just gonna carry this thing right along. Teams are
Speaker 1: gonna pick off their board and first full backs, my
Speaker 1: number one fullback. There's your number one fullback right there.
Speaker 1: Talk about him then Dane. He had more tackles than
Speaker 1: Vincent Valentine, the defensive tackle that the Patriots drafted from
Speaker 1: Nebraska early on. But uh, talk about special teams with
Speaker 1: Jatavis Brown. Yeah, that's what makes Andy Janovic is such
Speaker 1: an intriguing player because he's a kamikaze on special teams.
Speaker 1: The way he's gonna fly down the field and look
Speaker 1: to take you out. Not the most dynamic athlete in
Speaker 1: terms of carrying the ball or catching the ball out
Speaker 1: of the backfield, but what he brings on special teams,
Speaker 1: that's what makes Janovich worthy of a draft pick here
Speaker 1: in the sixth round. Okay, so the first fullback does go? Uh?
Speaker 1: Is that that was your first fullback on your board, right, Dame? Yes? Okay,
Speaker 1: So Andy Janovic fullback Nebraska special teams Kamakazi. According to
Speaker 1: Dane Brugler, he goes to the Denver Broncos at pick
Speaker 1: one seventy six. It's a pick they acquired from the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. So now we're into the into the sixth
Speaker 1: round at pick one seventy seven with the Los Angeles
Speaker 1: Rams on the on the clock. So moving on, Kent,
Speaker 1: do you have any any any questions on twitter thing
Speaker 1: coming up? We have a question about Dak. Did he
Speaker 1: get in some legal trouble and do you think he'll
Speaker 1: maybe face the suspension at some point from the league
Speaker 1: as far as that goes. He did. Actually, that's a
Speaker 1: fantastic point. I mean, he he did have the um
Speaker 1: d UI. Yeah, they'd probably look at that program stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know, testing and things like that. Um an
Speaker 1: alcohol not being illegal, but I'm gonna say it made it,
Speaker 1: it doesn't It just the red flak. That's That's the
Speaker 1: whole thing. It's and I kind of mentioned that, and honestly,
Speaker 1: you know, me a Kulpa, I completely forgot about that
Speaker 1: earlier when we were talking about Dak. I mean you
Speaker 1: talk about you know, we did say something about the DUI,
Speaker 1: but you just talk about like the sterling reputation that
Speaker 1: and and I still think he does. I think that's
Speaker 1: probably a credit to him that I don't think it
Speaker 1: really knocked him that far down in terms of in
Speaker 1: terms of draft stock or anything like that. Um, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't expect that the league would discipline him for that,
Speaker 1: do you. I don't think so either. Yeah, but it's
Speaker 1: what it's not. But it's one of those things that
Speaker 1: the league, you know, if it turns into something else, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like no, absolutely, yeah, um but shouldn't put him into
Speaker 1: like the program. It's not like it's not gonna get
Speaker 1: alcohol tested or anything like that. I mean, yeah, if
Speaker 1: he if it was, and I think the you talk
Speaker 1: about the body of work, how does Jason Garrett Love
Speaker 1: to say that I think the body of work is
Speaker 1: enough that something like that is not going to to
Speaker 1: ding him too bad. Obviously it didn't. There's enough good
Speaker 1: will there that he's built up exactly, you know, not
Speaker 1: that we're excusing what happened, but you know it's not
Speaker 1: something that's indicative of his character. It's a you know,
Speaker 1: a one time mistake that you know, again the important
Speaker 1: words there that David just used his body of work, right,
Speaker 1: and that's what he has, That's what he's built up
Speaker 1: over his career. So not something with worry And I
Speaker 1: feel bad, honestly, like I basically completely forgot that it
Speaker 1: even happened to him. Rams at one seventy seven, take
Speaker 1: another tight end. It's a Tamarick Hemmingway, Okay, from South
Speaker 1: Carolina state. This is the second South Carolina state. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but this is the second tied end that the Rams
Speaker 1: have taken. Tyler Higbee went earlier, so again trying to
Speaker 1: get help for the young quarterback there with some with
Speaker 1: a couple of different tight end. Talk about a little
Speaker 1: bit about mister Himingway if he could there's sixty five,
Speaker 1: two hundred forty five pounds, a little leaner than you
Speaker 1: want but he's a traditional played that traditional y tight
Speaker 1: end for South Carolina State. He loves the whip route.
Speaker 1: That's his favorite route, at least that's what the coaches
Speaker 1: like to call. But he's he's again a little leaner
Speaker 1: than you want. He needs to put on some more muscles,
Speaker 1: some more bulk. Not going to be a traditional you
Speaker 1: know inline guys, going to be a blocker, but as
Speaker 1: a receiver, a lot of potential here. So you know,
Speaker 1: he's a size speed athlete. You remind me a lot
Speaker 1: of Ladarius Green when he came out of Louisiana Lafayette
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. So a little bit of
Speaker 1: a project, but uh, you know you like the receiving
Speaker 1: ability and the potential as a receiving tight end. Yeah
Speaker 1: that and sure enough though that they've gotten too with
Speaker 1: Himingway and Higbee. Uh we are now at pick uh.
Speaker 1: Let's see where it pick one seventy eight. This pick
Speaker 1: was that the forty nine ers got. Originally belonged to
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. It's it's now with the forty nine ers,
Speaker 1: but it's been shipped to Kansas City. So Kansas City
Speaker 1: is now on the clock and they will have an
Speaker 1: opportunity to pick a player here, and the pick, in
Speaker 1: fact is in. We're just waiting for it to be announced.
Speaker 1: We go back. The first fullback, Janovich Nebraska was taken
Speaker 1: at one seventy six. I know some people earlier questions
Speaker 1: on calls we're talking about, in fact with the Cowboys
Speaker 1: take a fullback, so the Dame Brugler's best fullback. It
Speaker 1: goes off the board right there. So we'll wait for it. Wait,
Speaker 1: wait for Kancy. Can't you get anything else that you
Speaker 1: want to add to the program here? Yeah, Mark wants
Speaker 1: to know. I mean, obviously Elliott, but have we drafted
Speaker 1: anyone that could possibly start for this team other than
Speaker 1: an in round one start? No, we're just building depth
Speaker 1: at this point. I guess well, and I think I mean,
Speaker 1: if you were listening when leon Lett came in here,
Speaker 1: see he couldn't start, he said, other than round one,
Speaker 1: other than round one. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Um god
Speaker 1: might if Zeke doesn't start, I'm gonna be ye, I'll
Speaker 1: do an angry dance. Um what does that look like?
Speaker 1: I'll figure it out when we catch ump around. If
Speaker 1: you were listening when when leon Lett came in here
Speaker 1: and to your point. No, probably not, at least not
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen. But this is a defense that relies
Speaker 1: on rotation. Uh, they don't have a lot of guys
Speaker 1: who play, you know, fifty sixty seventy snaps. You're talking
Speaker 1: more about rotating in guys for twenty five to forty plays. Uh.
Speaker 1: And in that case, I think it's realistic to expect
Speaker 1: both Malik Collins and Charles Tapper to be a part
Speaker 1: of that rotation. I wouldn't well, and hey, even for
Speaker 1: that matter, with DeMarcus Lawrence and Randy Gregory being suspended
Speaker 1: for the first month of the season, I wouldn't rule
Speaker 1: it out. You need ends. I mean, you got Mayowa,
Speaker 1: and you got David Irving, and you got Jack Crawford.
Speaker 1: But you get to training camp, who the hell. Maybe
Speaker 1: Charles Tapper's a beast, maybe he fights somebody off. But
Speaker 1: even if not, I think you can expect to see
Speaker 1: both of those guys rotating in. Maybe not on the
Speaker 1: first four yeah, but I mean you think that's a
Speaker 1: realistic expect I think you're I think you're absolutly right.
Speaker 1: I think they might have been if things get a
Speaker 1: little harry, that you might even see Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: see Crawford go back out to left defensive end. It
Speaker 1: wouldn't stun me, now, yeah, with with what they have
Speaker 1: working inside, and if he does, then I would certainly
Speaker 1: expect Malie Collins to play a role. Yeah, absolutely even start. Okay,
Speaker 1: DJ White the defensive back, Uh, the safety if I'm
Speaker 1: right there? Uh, Dj, I'm sorry, Yeah, corner of George
Speaker 1: Check my bad. Too many White's in my head. Uh,
Speaker 1: talk about him a little bit. That's a pick for
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs at six one seventy eight. Talk
Speaker 1: about a player who's completely different when you ask him
Speaker 1: to press or ask him the playoff. When you ask
Speaker 1: him the press, I thought he did a nice job
Speaker 1: trusting his athleticism to mirror and stay uh you know,
Speaker 1: squared receivers. But once there was space between him and
Speaker 1: the wide receiver, I think you he had a little
Speaker 1: an awkward shuffle to him and the footwork is off,
Speaker 1: and so he struggles with some spacing issues and off coverage.
Speaker 1: I thought his junior tape was better than his senior tape.
Speaker 1: I thought that really stood out. But in terms of
Speaker 1: his instincts, I think the instincts are there, and I
Speaker 1: think that helps hide and mask some of his deficiencies
Speaker 1: in other areas. But at this point, you know, I
Speaker 1: like this pick for Kansas City. Yeah. When I saw
Speaker 1: I saw a player that didn't always play in balance,
Speaker 1: you know, And I thought he was better as a
Speaker 1: pedal when he went straight back, and I thought he
Speaker 1: got a little overpowered at times. I didn't thought he
Speaker 1: didn't always want to tackle. Ski might hurt him a
Speaker 1: little bit in the way he plays right there. But
Speaker 1: I didn't see a lot of quickness with him or
Speaker 1: much ketchups. But I think you brought that up. He
Speaker 1: plays as a boundary corner at Georgia Tech. That tells
Speaker 1: a little bit. If he played the boundary you're only using.
Speaker 1: They're using the sideline to help you there at coverage set,
Speaker 1: it might be masking a little bit of the things
Speaker 1: that he's trying to do. So this is this is
Speaker 1: pretty funny, and it's exactly the type of thing that
Speaker 1: happens when you get drafted at quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys. Uh,
Speaker 1: somebody went back and found a Dak Prescott grew up
Speaker 1: a Cowboys fan. The proof is in the pudding. You
Speaker 1: got a jersey ump. No, you remember the twenty twelve
Speaker 1: loss to Robert Griffin and the Redskins that knocked him
Speaker 1: out of the playoffs. Yeah. Uh, and Tony Romo had
Speaker 1: a horrible game about it. He tweeted after Romo's last
Speaker 1: interception to lose that help lose that game, he said,
Speaker 1: I'm done taking up for Romo. Hashtag had enough. And
Speaker 1: obviously people went back and found that and oh no, hey,
Speaker 1: I I don't blame him for that at all. That
Speaker 1: better screenshot at because that's gonna be deleted here in
Speaker 1: the next it's I'm reading I'm actually reading it on
Speaker 1: on Dallas Morning News' website, so it's not going anywhere. Um,
Speaker 1: that's that's funny. I mean, I don't care. We got
Speaker 1: our first punt a putter going on. Yeah, the San
Speaker 1: Diego Chargers with pick A one to seventy nine Drewyer
Speaker 1: Kayser Drew Kayser, the punter from Texas A and M
Speaker 1: pick one seventy nine going to the San Diego Charger.
Speaker 1: So now we've had a kicker. He Brokeshane Leckler's school
Speaker 1: Ruckers there a d An Now he led the SEC
Speaker 1: in punting the two of the last three years. So
Speaker 1: this is. I think he's a starting caliber punter in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Uh. You know, he's got the size, he's
Speaker 1: an athlete. You see him on special teams. He's flying
Speaker 1: down the field, so he can move a little bit. Uh,
Speaker 1: everything you look for in a punter. I think he
Speaker 1: has the baseline traits to uh, you know, be in
Speaker 1: this league for a while. So putter goes to the
Speaker 1: to the San Diego Chargers to pick. Before that was
Speaker 1: DJ White Kent, what do you got for me? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have some Twitter people wanting to know what picks
Speaker 1: we have left in this draft. So coming up in
Speaker 1: this round, we have one from Oakland, the fourteenth pick
Speaker 1: in this round one eight nine overall one nine. We
Speaker 1: have three compensatory picks, which are picked thirty seven, forty one,
Speaker 1: and forty two in this round in the sixth and
Speaker 1: then no seventh round picks. Yeah, so no seventh round
Speaker 1: picks and what's yeah, two twelve to sixteen and two seven.
Speaker 1: None of those three can be dealt. Yeah, absolutely one
Speaker 1: nine potentially end up and they're gonna make at least
Speaker 1: three picks. Yeah. The pick the Cowboys had that San
Speaker 1: Francisco had a pick from the Cowboys at one seventy eight,
Speaker 1: and then that pick went to Kansas City where they
Speaker 1: took DJ White. What how did San when? What was that?
Speaker 1: When did that come about? How did San Francisco get that?
Speaker 1: It was? Was trying to think it two years ago?
Speaker 1: It was like two years ago. I think it's what
Speaker 1: it was. We remember Will was dealing all those for
Speaker 1: defensive linemen. I think I'm trying to think of the
Speaker 1: part of the Swain deal wasn't was that when they
Speaker 1: traded up and might they gave away? They gave away
Speaker 1: this year's sixth to get swam in the seventh last year.
Speaker 1: That's it. That's the pick. They went to say. The
Speaker 1: reason they have reason they have a sixth right now
Speaker 1: is because Oakland gave it to him in the Butler swap.
Speaker 1: That's right, Okay, well the Viking he's wrong, Like, thanks
Speaker 1: for remembering that. I played a couple of games out
Speaker 1: so you could have you could have DJ White from
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech or Jeff Swain. Exactly right. I mean it's
Speaker 1: not that simple, not that simple, but whatever, I could
Speaker 1: probably found a player here. You like, uh, Swain's gonna
Speaker 1: be an all pro you think so? I like Jeff Swain.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've barely seen any of him, but I
Speaker 1: think he's got a good blend of athleticisms. And here's
Speaker 1: the Viking selection. Let's listen to this one, candy, if
Speaker 1: we could please. Yeah, it's not a Minutesota Vikings fan.
Speaker 1: Don't care. Make the pick with a pick in the
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen NFL Draft, the Minutesota Vikings select Maritz. Wow,
Speaker 1: that is the first foreign player who's never went to
Speaker 1: college in North America to be drafted. That's too high
Speaker 1: for this guy. I'm sorry, Well, good for him. I
Speaker 1: think that earlier on the phone, if I was, I
Speaker 1: was kind of paying attention to this when Mike Mayock
Speaker 1: was on the phone with Mike Zimmer and Zimmer had
Speaker 1: called in on his cell phone, and I guess, I guess, uh,
Speaker 1: And here's here's Zimber. They're showing the war room right
Speaker 1: now in Minnesota, Mike Zimmers sitting there in the middle
Speaker 1: and laughing about about that. So, uh, it's nice that
Speaker 1: the young man is he's at they interviewed him earlier.
Speaker 1: He's there in Chicago, and so he was on set
Speaker 1: and he's now a Minnesota Vikings. Mike Zimmer gives him
Speaker 1: a wave, a lot of fun there. Mayock Mike Mayock involved.
Speaker 1: So they called Dirk the big Schnitzel. Is that a thing, seriously,
Speaker 1: the big german? Yeah? Well the kids. So I don't know, Dane,
Speaker 1: you watched the tape of this young man. He's playing
Speaker 1: against guys. It's there's a practice squad guy, right this
Speaker 1: this guy's Yeah, it's he's a guy that you you're
Speaker 1: drafting him based on measurables and the way he tested
Speaker 1: his workout numbers. Yeah, because he's big. He's six four
Speaker 1: or twenty seven pounds and he ran a legit four four. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he can move and he tracks the ball well. When
Speaker 1: you when you uh, you know, watch him during drills
Speaker 1: as a receiver. He has some natural receiving traits. He's
Speaker 1: just raw. He has no idea how to run routes,
Speaker 1: he has no idea how to set up defenders, and
Speaker 1: you know, there's just a lot he does not know
Speaker 1: at the position. Ye. Yeah, Daniel Jeremiah, we're on our
Speaker 1: screen here at Chandel Jeremiah is interviewing him here earlier,
Speaker 1: and he was talking about obviously you know, what he
Speaker 1: what he could do, how he thinks probably you know
Speaker 1: how excited he was even to be at Chicago hanging
Speaker 1: out in his draft. He didn't start playing football until
Speaker 1: about four years ago. About four years ago, he saw
Speaker 1: some clips on YouTube and thought, hey, I'm gonna try this.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it a shot. And he started playing
Speaker 1: on some club teams and uh, you know that that's
Speaker 1: really the extent of it. He played in a German league.
Speaker 1: But again, you watched the tape, and he's playing against
Speaker 1: guys that they're not playing D three football in America,
Speaker 1: you know, the guys that aren't very good. So got
Speaker 1: your boy, Tyrone Homes. Yeah right, well Tyrone Homes so uh,
Speaker 1: I mean on at the end of the day, it's
Speaker 1: a sixth round pick and there's no guarantee that these
Speaker 1: guys will even make the team. Yeah, but uh, that
Speaker 1: still feels high to me for a guy who's basically
Speaker 1: never played. Well there, that's that's having a little fun
Speaker 1: in the in the probably in the draft, and hopefully
Speaker 1: that this isn't supposed to be fun ban the NFL. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the National Football League. You're right about that, Dab,
Speaker 1: You're right. Okay, Uh, the uh, let's talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about a pick one. I kind of had all
Speaker 1: those fourth round undersized guys, did Daddy Nicholas? I had Holmes.
Speaker 1: I had all those guys that fourth round. Well, here
Speaker 1: here's Tyrone Holmes. Uh, the defensive in from Montana, and
Speaker 1: you could watch him play against North Dakota State. We
Speaker 1: saw earlier the offensive tackle that got drafted a nuisance.
Speaker 1: Yeah he if Carson Wentz wore this kid around his
Speaker 1: neck in that game, they could not block. Uh, Tyron
Speaker 1: Holmes in in this Uh So, your your imagery is fantastic.
Speaker 1: Sometimes he was basically he was basically a back. It
Speaker 1: was like a scarf every time, every time Carson Witz
Speaker 1: went back to pass, it was a scarf around his neck.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Tyren Holmes, I love the pick right here
Speaker 1: and that Jacksonville Jaguars having a great you know what
Speaker 1: it's like back in the day with Jackson White wish.
Speaker 1: I mean I was in the war Reville. Here are
Speaker 1: the Ravens. Okay, we've talked about that with the one
Speaker 1: hundred eighty second pick in the two thousand and sixty one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens. Slack Keenan Reynolds, Oh, Keen Reynolds siver
Speaker 1: from Navy. US. All right, Navy, there you go. That
Speaker 1: is very cool. Keenan Reynolds, he was a quarterback at NA.
Speaker 1: These are all just good will picks right here. Well, ah,
Speaker 1: he's a local straight So this guy's a productive football player,
Speaker 1: that extremely productive, no one. I mean he holds the
Speaker 1: record for FBS career touchdowns. Yeah, I mean that's you
Speaker 1: have to be pretty darn good. Now, he was in
Speaker 1: that triple option running as a quarterback, right, He's not
Speaker 1: a quarterback in the NFL. No, but they listed him
Speaker 1: as a wide receiver. But that's the question is what
Speaker 1: positions they called him. They called him it's Keenan Reynold's
Speaker 1: wide receiver Navy, so they have an idea what he
Speaker 1: needs to do. But okay, I saw him at the
Speaker 1: Shrine game. He was he worked out at the Shrine
Speaker 1: and he was lined up as a running back yea mostly,
Speaker 1: and he also did a little bit as a wide receiver,
Speaker 1: so did a little bit of both. He's going to
Speaker 1: be a hybrid version. Um. I'm just kind of shocked
Speaker 1: the Patriots didn't draft Keenan Reynolds. Yeah. Bill Belichick's dad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and look at that man. He's got his so too. First,
Speaker 1: it reminds me of high school recruiting because you see
Speaker 1: a guy called athlete. That's basically what this is. Yeah here, yeah,
Speaker 1: um correct, I am ignorant on this subject. But like,
Speaker 1: and they're like some complications when you draft a service
Speaker 1: academy guy. Well they've relaxed the rules service. I mean
Speaker 1: it used to be, uh, it used to be five years,
Speaker 1: four years. So let's see, let's see in fact what happens.
Speaker 1: But back in the day, it was a it was
Speaker 1: a commitment. I mean, we get Bob Kurberski, we drafted
Speaker 1: a gang green and there was a commitment there and
Speaker 1: that you have to make. And if part of Keenan
Speaker 1: Rentals going to school at the Naval Academy is the
Speaker 1: taxpayers go for pay for him to go to school, right,
Speaker 1: so uh that you know, he's got a commitment that
Speaker 1: he has to make to name. Okay, now they've they've
Speaker 1: had some adjustments being the fact he's he's there. He
Speaker 1: was drafted by Baltimore Annapolis right there by Baltimore, I
Speaker 1: mean maybe something you know, they know what's going on.
Speaker 1: I don't know with Keenan Rentals. So congratulations to him,
Speaker 1: always happy when the kids that military that goes military
Speaker 1: schools do get drafted. I meant to I meant to
Speaker 1: bring this up before that happened. Can you tell me
Speaker 1: how many offensive players the Jags have drafted this weekend? None? None? Yeah, none.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read I'm gonna read this for you again.
Speaker 1: And I like every defensive player they drafted. Jalen Ramsey, Miles,
Speaker 1: jack Yannicky, Okay, Sheldon Day and Tyron Holmes winners defensive coach.
Speaker 1: He's trying to say that down there, that to me
Speaker 1: reads like five guys who can contribute as rookies, yeah,
Speaker 1: and three who can start. Well. They drafted. I mean
Speaker 1: they've had offensive players before. I mean they got the
Speaker 1: quarterback they got, they got Hearns, they got Robinson, they
Speaker 1: sent the first Oklahoma linebacker draft. There we go. It's
Speaker 1: not Striker and it's not the mic linebacker. Uh what's
Speaker 1: his name? I'm blanking. I'm blanking too. You're looking at
Speaker 1: me like, uh hold on one second here, Alexander Dominique, Alexander, Okay,
Speaker 1: what wasn't wasn't Striker? Alexander's DeVante Bond. DeVante Bond, Yeah,
Speaker 1: DeVante Bond's at six three uh, linebacker, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Speaker 1: make that pick DeVante Bond. You I like Devonte Bond
Speaker 1: a little bit, uh, just for his ability to the run,
Speaker 1: that ability to that again the scheme at Oklahoma. I've
Speaker 1: gone on record saying that. But you have a little
Speaker 1: bit about Bond that you want to talk about, Dane
Speaker 1: or do uh you want me to try and figure
Speaker 1: something out here? No, with Devonte Bond. We kind of
Speaker 1: touched on this with Tapp or how it's kind of
Speaker 1: late to the game. Didn't play until his junior year
Speaker 1: in high school. Same thing with Bond. He had all
Speaker 1: kind of academic issues in high school, so he was
Speaker 1: a no star recruit, spent a couple of years at
Speaker 1: the JUCO level, and then he was out of football
Speaker 1: right and then he got a chance at Oklahoma, and
Speaker 1: he wasn't a regular starter. It only has eight starts
Speaker 1: in his career the last two years as a Sooner.
Speaker 1: But when he was on the field, he made plays.
Speaker 1: They asked him to be kind of a hybrid edge rusher,
Speaker 1: so he did a lot of that dropped in space.
Speaker 1: M He's a little undersize and that's the biggest issue
Speaker 1: with me six one, two hundred thirty five pounds, A
Speaker 1: lot of almost plays. Yeah, almost made the tackle, almost
Speaker 1: showed up in coverage. So I liked the player. I
Speaker 1: gave him a six round grade. So this is where
Speaker 1: you know he should come off the board. He's gonna
Speaker 1: have to make some plays on special teams. He wants
Speaker 1: to keep a joke. I see the guy. I mean
Speaker 1: the Oklahoma linebackers. I know one thing. Those guys can
Speaker 1: run and they he really does a nice job of
Speaker 1: closing on the ball. He's always on the move. I
Speaker 1: did see a wrap up tackler. I did see a
Speaker 1: guy played with some leverage. There's times where he does
Speaker 1: miss a little bit in space, but most of the
Speaker 1: time he did get his man down on the ground.
Speaker 1: I think he's got to push as a rusher. There
Speaker 1: was some things they were doing with him as a blitzer.
Speaker 1: I could see him playing either as a Will or
Speaker 1: a Sam linebacker for somebody's schemes. So he goes to
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to pick six one eighty three,
Speaker 1: and we see the Giants have taken I like that
Speaker 1: guy a lot. The Giants have taken tight end uh
Speaker 1: Jural Adams like, I like all the I like all
Speaker 1: the players that the East teams are drafting. I don't
Speaker 1: want to play these guys. You want to play these guys.
Speaker 1: Geral Adams tight end, South Carolina goes to New York
Speaker 1: Football Giants. David, did you watch him at all? Did
Speaker 1: you get to see him? I watched him on tape
Speaker 1: and I watched him at the senior talk about him
Speaker 1: a little bit if you like. I just and I mean,
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna steal this from Dan because Dan
Speaker 1: has talked about him too, But I mean, he seems
Speaker 1: like a guy that's got a chance to be a
Speaker 1: better pro player than he ever was in college. I
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of these, a lot of college
Speaker 1: tight ends, like unless you play in the right offense, honestly,
Speaker 1: teams don't know what to do with you or don't
Speaker 1: use you the right way. And so, I mean, his
Speaker 1: stats definitely don't look like anything impressive at South Carolina,
Speaker 1: but he's a big athletic dude who can get down
Speaker 1: the field. And from the tape that I watched, he
Speaker 1: looked like he could be an adequate blocker too, Like
Speaker 1: maybe not a you know, a great one, but at
Speaker 1: least a guy that can get in the way and
Speaker 1: have that as part of his game. And now Dane
Speaker 1: can tell me how No, I want to. I want
Speaker 1: to Now, I want to. I want to hear this
Speaker 1: because I think Dave he did a really nice job
Speaker 1: of describing the player. Yeah, I and he was at
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. We got to watch him live and
Speaker 1: doing stuff. Thought he was one of the top five
Speaker 1: tight ends in this draft. I to me he was
Speaker 1: my number six guy. But what he is, he's a
Speaker 1: seambuster with that straight line speed. I thought he was
Speaker 1: robotic on the rest of his route tree, but as
Speaker 1: a seambuster, he could do that. He's a foreign basketball player.
Speaker 1: This guy thought he'd be in the NBA one day.
Speaker 1: Moved over to football in high school and so he's
Speaker 1: still work in progress in certain areas. But at six
Speaker 1: five two fifty thirty four and a half inch arms,
Speaker 1: I think his best football as ahead of him. Kind
Speaker 1: of along the lines of what Dave was saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I like as far as the
Speaker 1: blocking stuff. Kind of a getting away guy, but he's
Speaker 1: got he's got some link to him, so he extends
Speaker 1: and then he turns his body. He keeps in position.
Speaker 1: I mean at the point of attack. I didn't think
Speaker 1: I didn't see a guy. Sometimes you see guys get
Speaker 1: as they're trying to block on the move, they get washed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he can maintain some positions, some leverage right there. And
Speaker 1: I think at this point it's a cliche because of
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham and Antonio Gates. It's a cliche to like,
Speaker 1: draft a tight end who used to play basketball and
Speaker 1: see what happens. But sixth round, pick one eighty four,
Speaker 1: he's got the trades to turn into a playmaker like that.
Speaker 1: Maybe he doesn't, but why not? Why not? I watch
Speaker 1: that pick. Okay, we're gonna the Cowboys are gonna be
Speaker 1: let's see one, two, three, four, five picks away. We're
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Speaker 1: and war room camps back and we talked about that
Speaker 1: before we went to break that the Cowboys will be
Speaker 1: on the clock. Uh, it looks like that the Miami
Speaker 1: Dolphins just turned their pick in. Let's see there, pick
Speaker 1: one eighty six we talked about Dallas is at six
Speaker 1: one eighty nine. We're not getting Jason Garrett throwing any footballs.
Speaker 1: We're not getting anybody acting like they're catching any passes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're not. We're not acting like we're get anybody catching
Speaker 1: any footballs. I would be interested to see though, as
Speaker 1: I look at this, can Derek dually get a receiver
Speaker 1: in here? And can they get would Lissa be be
Speaker 1: that guy that the you know, a local key that
Speaker 1: can take the top off a defense. Uh with his speed? Uh,
Speaker 1: we've um still waiting for the Dolphins here, but you
Speaker 1: know he's a guy that I know I have. I
Speaker 1: have Lawlor the third I have list of being the fourth. Uh.
Speaker 1: Maybe those are the types of guys that you would see. Um.
Speaker 1: We we talked about Cash as a guy, a safety,
Speaker 1: and but here's the Dolphins selection and uh, but your thoughts, guys,
Speaker 1: as we get close to this pick. They look very
Speaker 1: calm sitting in that room right now. Yeah, they do,
Speaker 1: and they I think they're they're uh, they're eye on
Speaker 1: a certain player and I think they have all good
Speaker 1: he'll be there. Uh talking about position? You know they
Speaker 1: just drafted uh a quarterback last pick. Where do you
Speaker 1: think they're ahead of this time? Um? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, I think that I think
Speaker 1: that the to me just I think the speed. I
Speaker 1: think that, you know, adding somebody else on the outside
Speaker 1: that could Okay, Gee, Jachim Grant the uh, the wide
Speaker 1: receiver from Texas Tech goes to the Miami Dolphins at
Speaker 1: pick one eighty six. That puts the uh let's see,
Speaker 1: it puts the Washington Redskins on the clock right now,
Speaker 1: uh and US at pick one eighty seven. Uh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just feel like though that there just might be
Speaker 1: too much value for him right there, unless I'm missing something. Uh.
Speaker 1: Have Perkins the defensive end. Uh, David Perkins, I know
Speaker 1: southern Illinois. I mean he's a guy of a lot
Speaker 1: higher on you know, he was a transfer from Ohio State. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know they've added some defensive ends already here. I
Speaker 1: know that's a guy that probably they might not consider there.
Speaker 1: Uh the cornerback of Brown, Anthony Brown, Anthony Brown from
Speaker 1: Purdue Seymour was a guy. Uh you you brought up Mills.
Speaker 1: We talked about Mills earlier. A little surprised he's even
Speaker 1: still here, Like, is the teams know something we don't know?
Speaker 1: He had a he had a domestic violence issue in
Speaker 1: college a couple of years ago. But do you think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys could go receiver? Go with Kenny Lawler here?
Speaker 1: I think I think they might go with the guy
Speaker 1: with speed, and maybe maybe they're surprised, maybe there are
Speaker 1: surprised that uh that that that Lawler is still on
Speaker 1: the board. I mean he's more of a possession type
Speaker 1: of a guy, you know. But the guy with the
Speaker 1: speed is is listened to me. I mean maybe that's
Speaker 1: your maybe that's your your home run hitter, right listen
Speaker 1: has listened to me, has speed, But who's just a
Speaker 1: better overall receiver? Lawler is Okay, Lawler' is a better player.
Speaker 1: I want the better player. I don't really care if
Speaker 1: he's fast. I honestly don't. Dez Bryant's not that fast
Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of things. Okay, okay U and
Speaker 1: Nate's Nate Setfeld another new quarterback. And yeah, Nate Setfeld
Speaker 1: goes uh for the UH to the Washington Redskins at
Speaker 1: pick one eighty seven. The quarterback from Indiana had a
Speaker 1: Brandon Alan that's a little surprising. Yeah, that is surprising
Speaker 1: to me. Also had a drift drift school and fernand Adams.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe they don't like the size of Brandon Allen,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Maybe that's the well Yeah,
Speaker 1: and yeah, there's a good chance they were looking for
Speaker 1: a certain type of developmental quarterback and with Sudfeld, you
Speaker 1: know that's what you have. That size he's listed or
Speaker 1: what he weighed in at a six six foot six,
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty four pounds, right, he has an
Speaker 1: arm that he can make every throw, but the mechanics
Speaker 1: are sloppy. He has had a trouble, a tough time
Speaker 1: staying healthy that that obviously hurt him. But he had
Speaker 1: production in Indiana through forever thirty five hundred yards twenty
Speaker 1: seven two seven touchdown the interception ratio. So he has
Speaker 1: a projectable body type, projectable arm, projectable skill set here
Speaker 1: in the sixth round. That's what the Redskins are getting. Okay,
Speaker 1: Minnesota is on the clock ahead of Dallas. Dallas picking
Speaker 1: at one eighty nine, six one eighty nine. We've gone
Speaker 1: through a bunch of names. Uh, you know, a bunch
Speaker 1: of you know, listen, we have good hands, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: more vertical. It's does he have good hands? I think
Speaker 1: the hands are okay. Can he do anything besides running nine? Seriously,
Speaker 1: that's gonna do anything. But but you're in the sixth round.
Speaker 1: Can he do anything besides running nine? It's that's his
Speaker 1: best route. That's just no. We can't no, we can't
Speaker 1: do you can just not very well. Lawler can go
Speaker 1: all over the field get the ball, but give me
Speaker 1: Kenny Lawler. Okay, but I want a good player. Not okay.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you though, rack stars. But listen, Be's
Speaker 1: got the vertical speed. I mean that's something they don't have.
Speaker 1: We always talk about that. I mean we don't we
Speaker 1: but I understand what you're saying it's pretty damn fast.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I don't know if he has
Speaker 1: a separation of this cat. No, yeah, listen to be
Speaker 1: I think he's a little different. Uh in terms of
Speaker 1: Lucky Whitehead. He's fast. They're gonna even let him, well
Speaker 1: he but c he ever gonna play receivers, but he
Speaker 1: but he doesn't make plays down the field like this guy.
Speaker 1: They haven't given him a chance. From my listening b report,
Speaker 1: twenty nine point seven percent of his career catches went
Speaker 1: for thirty plus yards in the air. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: a true vertical threat. That's what he did. That sounds
Speaker 1: like a bad idea in my opinion, Like, well, the
Speaker 1: way let's see if that's Jerry Jones is on the phone,
Speaker 1: we look at the war room, So Chris Halls handed
Speaker 1: this card in. Uh, that's the only part of your game.
Speaker 1: I just feel bad about. I feel bad about that
Speaker 1: working for you in the NFL players are too good. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: we'll soon find out about who they take. That we
Speaker 1: mentioned all those cornerbacks too though, I mean and that
Speaker 1: we we we've we've talked about that that problem that
Speaker 1: they have with all those guys with the with the cornerbacks.
Speaker 1: So yeah, no, you're right. So David Morgan goes to
Speaker 1: Minnesota argue the okay, tight end, so that that uh,
Speaker 1: that uh that takes, uh, that takes now puts the
Speaker 1: Cowboys on the clock right here. So we've we've talked
Speaker 1: about you. I can hear those cornerbacks, you like, you know,
Speaker 1: those guys that are on that board. They might be
Speaker 1: on the clock, but I think they're done. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Harlan Miller is a name talking about the top corners, Kennedy,
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown, Seymour. I mean I got anthy Brown in
Speaker 1: the third round on my on my sheet right here,
Speaker 1: So I would be interested if they're gonna go corner,
Speaker 1: go corner, and I Anthony Brown would be my top
Speaker 1: guy if they go corner. Now, I've got Lawler, I've
Speaker 1: got Brown in the third round, I got Lisa be
Speaker 1: in the fourth round. If you just if they got
Speaker 1: me convinced that Lawler should be their pick, and I
Speaker 1: feel like, that's not what's gonna happen, right, That's not
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen right here now. I guess yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: well we'll see who in fact the Cowboys, Uh what
Speaker 1: was your grade on Kenny Lawler? Like fourth? Maybe I
Speaker 1: think I had a late third, early fourth. Get him? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I don't know. I mean four, sixth athlete. And
Speaker 1: he has some bad drops. That's the that's the that's
Speaker 1: why he's still available at this I feel better in
Speaker 1: that case. I don't. We don't need bad hands. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well we'll see. We'll see how And he has confused
Speaker 1: hands because he makes some of the best catches you'll
Speaker 1: ever see. He just drops some easy ones. Thinks too much. Well,
Speaker 1: to me, it's too It's going either either way. Either
Speaker 1: gonna take a receiver here, We're gonna take a quarterback.
Speaker 1: I'd rather have a dB. If we're being honest, you've said, okay,
Speaker 1: the picks in. Let's see what the cowboys are gonna
Speaker 1: do here. Uh, nobody's gonna announce it, I don't think.
Speaker 1: But let's see you'll have like a fan crew or something. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: where's where is? Where is rowdy? There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 1: We need some rowdy. I thought somebody told me that
Speaker 1: they were gonna make a pick out at the new
Speaker 1: facility this weekend. I mean they still they have many
Speaker 1: more picks, have many more picks. Let's see it. In fact,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys do make a make a pick here. They
Speaker 1: they turned the card in and they says it's in
Speaker 1: one and seven at home last year, remember how awful
Speaker 1: that was? Awful us Remember previous year how great it
Speaker 1: was on the road when we were eight. No, that
Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. Oh man, Well, let's see
Speaker 1: that they've they've kind of everybody's standing around them there
Speaker 1: now they're trying to figure out if you look at
Speaker 1: they're all looking they've got they're trying to figure out, well,
Speaker 1: they've got all those picks in the sixth round in
Speaker 1: those compitt stores, so they're trying to line them. Okay,
Speaker 1: Joe Joe Baker's in their shaking hands with people. So
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a dB here, and we got
Speaker 1: to figure out my My highest rated dB on the
Speaker 1: board is the brown kid, Anthony Brown from Perdue. So
Speaker 1: let's see if they do Brian brought us a favor
Speaker 1: and actually draft a guy that I like. How about
Speaker 1: that they're gonna go I shouldn't say that I like
Speaker 1: their guys back to back Perdue players. Is that what
Speaker 1: you're trying to tell me right now? I'm just telling
Speaker 1: you though, the best player on my board is is
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown. We'll see how that is if they don't
Speaker 1: take the receiver to either lawl or a Brown and
Speaker 1: lissab was a guy. Maybe they're maybe they're maybe they
Speaker 1: talked about our drawing this out. Just make the pick.
Speaker 1: You want me to make the pick for ma? Thank
Speaker 1: you already? Did I am? I'm on the table for
Speaker 1: Brown Brown. I'm on the table and there it is
Speaker 1: killing me, all right, Mindy Brown? Gosh, So what do
Speaker 1: you like about Anthony Brown? I'll tell you I'm on
Speaker 1: a four three three speech. I love that. For what
Speaker 1: do you talk about him? If you want to write
Speaker 1: here this is your guy? Okay? Let mind? And these
Speaker 1: are the games I watched Marshall Virginia Tech, Indiana State Bowling, Green,
Speaker 1: Michigan State, Nebraska. I saw this guy could plant, he
Speaker 1: could drive. I mean I seem to close a little
Speaker 1: bit quicker, could play with the off hand. He will
Speaker 1: position himself to knock the ball away. He's a boundary
Speaker 1: corner again like we talked about, though, saw him is
Speaker 1: a wrap up tackle. Of times he plays a little
Speaker 1: sideways and that's because of technique and pedal. Maybe some
Speaker 1: of the stuff in the zone, but he'll adjust back
Speaker 1: to the football. He wants to get to the ball.
Speaker 1: He's got ball skills. I think he needs to look
Speaker 1: back a little quicker for the football, but he could
Speaker 1: read routes, use him on the corner blitz. He has
Speaker 1: the traits. My last line has the traits of a
Speaker 1: complete cornerback. Third round grade. Brian brought us Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 1: taking him at six. I gave a fourth round grade.
Speaker 1: I'm close to Yeah, I think you're very close to me.
Speaker 1: I saw a guy very close. You are right, You're
Speaker 1: you're getting there, I think. But to your point about
Speaker 1: the traits, yeah, the blend of size, yeah, the the speed,
Speaker 1: and the confidence. I think those three building blocks or
Speaker 1: which you want in a corner and I think he
Speaker 1: has those three areas. He checks those boxes and so
Speaker 1: I think you can you can have a future player here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well here you go. And that's a so Anthony Brown cornerback. Dabe,
Speaker 1: you want to chime in on him at all? How
Speaker 1: about you said four three eight on the speed right?
Speaker 1: Four three three three, I don't know. I adjusted at
Speaker 1: four three five is what I have him right there.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to try to improve on the scouting
Speaker 1: reports to think, oh why not go ahead, y'all got
Speaker 1: that taken care of. But I mean this was this
Speaker 1: was the last spot that they really a big need
Speaker 1: spot that they hadn't addressed in one way or another. Uh.
Speaker 1: And you know it's the sixth round. Actually, I was thinking,
Speaker 1: you know, Joe Baker was in there, and I was like, hey, coach,
Speaker 1: sorry we didn't get you, Jalen Ramsey. But here's Anthony
Speaker 1: Brown at one eighty nine. I hope you feel better. Yeah,
Speaker 1: um that said. I mean, I mean, so Brandon Carr's
Speaker 1: a free agent next year, Morris Claiborne's a free agent
Speaker 1: next year. Um, this is a position that they needed
Speaker 1: to address. And um, you know you have Terrence Mitchell
Speaker 1: and Degi Olatoyer who are intriguing talents, but you needed
Speaker 1: to bring another guy in here to compete Orlando six
Speaker 1: standards coming off a knee problem. Um. It's funny because
Speaker 1: last night I was saying, you know, they had two
Speaker 1: spots in the fourth round and three positions that I
Speaker 1: felt that they really couldn't afford to ignore. Right, They
Speaker 1: took quarterback, they took pass rusher, They waited on cornerback,
Speaker 1: and honestly, I think I'll probably take that. I think
Speaker 1: they can get by the best with this scenario where
Speaker 1: you know you're not expecting the most of a sixth
Speaker 1: round pick, but I think they can get by with it.
Speaker 1: And this this upgrades the talent on the on the
Speaker 1: depth chart for the time being for sure. Okay, do
Speaker 1: you have anything else day you get on that? We
Speaker 1: got them cover, Okay, I think so. Okay, the Los
Speaker 1: Angeles Rams are on the clock. Are they handed their
Speaker 1: pick in? We've yet to see it roll across the
Speaker 1: bottom of the screen. Let's pick six one ninety will
Speaker 1: be made. It looks like it's Josh Forrest, the linebacker
Speaker 1: from Kentucky, former y receiver moving to linebacker. Uh, it's
Speaker 1: still a work in progress, but I thought he had
Speaker 1: a nice week at the Senior Bowl and so solid
Speaker 1: pick here in the six the guy that has compete
Speaker 1: on special teams, he might have a starter down the road. Okay,
Speaker 1: and then then that puts it's gonna put Detroit on
Speaker 1: the clock at six one ninety one. Uh, they've we've
Speaker 1: we've talked about They've they've addressed it looked like they've
Speaker 1: addressed every pick has been offensive line for the most
Speaker 1: part for them. Uh, so we'll see what direction they go. Uh.
Speaker 1: I was just kind of this thing. It can't I
Speaker 1: didn't know if you had any people any Twitter questions
Speaker 1: come in about about the pick, about the pick itself,
Speaker 1: Did anybody know much about from what we're talking about
Speaker 1: with Anthony Brown and stuff like that. Uh? People just
Speaker 1: a little disappointed we didn't take Listen be Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think the fans are just aching for a receiver right now.
Speaker 1: You think they'll maybe aim for one with these last
Speaker 1: three picks here may Yeah, Well we'll see. In fact,
Speaker 1: I don't think that Listen b is long for the
Speaker 1: world here, to be honest with you, it makes it
Speaker 1: sound like he's gonna die. Brian, No, I don't mean.
Speaker 1: I just feel like though we're looking, you're looking, we're
Speaker 1: looking at the board, you're looking at the board, and
Speaker 1: you start we had him as a guy that we said, okay,
Speaker 1: we would take him here at this pick. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we would take him, and we've all our list to
Speaker 1: be all that kind of glad they didn't take him out,
Speaker 1: says he just ran into Derek Julie in the hall
Speaker 1: and he's dying for some receivers too. Okay, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: we will keep an eye out. Yeah, well listen, be
Speaker 1: was his guy, and uh Marquez and arth is still
Speaker 1: there though. Yeah, and they but they've got they've got
Speaker 1: to carry. They've got a long way to go till
Speaker 1: they get to those competatory picks its. Yeah. Selfishly, I'm
Speaker 1: glad they didn't get listen to me after that hatchet
Speaker 1: job I did on him right there before the did
Speaker 1: you did you do a hatchet job? It wasn't very
Speaker 1: nice to him, and I wasn't. I didn't have a
Speaker 1: lot of good stuff to say. Yeah, well, we'll see.
Speaker 1: I can say that. I just think when you're sixth round,
Speaker 1: you're looking at traits. We talked about the hands and uh,
Speaker 1: but we also said vertical seed all that stuff like that,
Speaker 1: and okay, okay, Anthony Brown. And by the way, Detroit
Speaker 1: takes Jake Jake Rudoc, Jake Rudoc, Michigan quarterback. That is
Speaker 1: not going to be a far trip. Yeah, Jake Rudoc,
Speaker 1: the quarterback at Michigan. That's something Buffalo Bills got something
Speaker 1: condescending to say. Dane, mister buck Eye, No, he's okay,
Speaker 1: he's a tough son of a guy. I think if
Speaker 1: I give him a lot of credit for what he's
Speaker 1: just throughout this his senior year because he was an
Speaker 1: I would transfer graduate transfer, fifth year guys. So you know,
Speaker 1: he shows up at Michigan and you could tell at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the season it was rough, I mean
Speaker 1: in terms of understanding the playbook, the chemistry with his targets.
Speaker 1: But as the season wore on, you saw his confidence
Speaker 1: just start to go up and up and up, just
Speaker 1: be more comfortable within that offense. And I think Rudoc
Speaker 1: he had a really nice senior season and developed into
Speaker 1: a legitimate prospect. And here he is staying in the
Speaker 1: state of Michigan, going to be a Detroit Lion. Now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Jake Rudoc was I liked. I'll tell you what, though,
Speaker 1: there's some games. You know, hardball is hard on quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: and and and and he this kid brought some stability
Speaker 1: to Michigan, and Michigan turned it around. And if you
Speaker 1: look at the number of wins, and you know, this
Speaker 1: kid didn't didn't kill him in games. He was steady,
Speaker 1: he's tough. You know, with Michigan quarterbacks, you always kind
Speaker 1: of that. I was the Elvis Gerbach kind of and
Speaker 1: I know Tom Brady was gone on, but you always
Speaker 1: got that guy that's kind of that that long, you know,
Speaker 1: rangey looking bill, you know, kind of not always perfect
Speaker 1: the way he looks, but can do some really good things.
Speaker 1: So we'll say, okay, here's the pick is in for
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, and we'll see if they roll it
Speaker 1: across the bottom. This is gonna be picks six, one
Speaker 1: ninety two. I actually I wanted the Buffalo Bills. I
Speaker 1: wanted to go back for a second. And I know
Speaker 1: we're talking about the sixth round. We're not talking about
Speaker 1: likely superstars here at this point, but uh, if you're
Speaker 1: if you're worried about receiver and grey, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's something to be worth being concerned about. I think
Speaker 1: that's fair. Between Terrence Williams Devin Street. You don't know
Speaker 1: what to expect from Lucky White. I mean, Dez is
Speaker 1: really the only guy, and I guess Cole Beasley that
Speaker 1: you can count on. But if you're worried about receiver,
Speaker 1: I feel a lot better just riding with what I've
Speaker 1: got right now and addressing that position next year. I
Speaker 1: feel way better that a first, second, or third round
Speaker 1: picket receiver can come in immediately like Terrence Williams did
Speaker 1: and contribute than I do about defensive back. I think
Speaker 1: defensive back and defensive end probably like the two hardest
Speaker 1: adjustments in football. Obviously quarterback. Yeah, but I just I
Speaker 1: feel better about asking a more highly touted rookie to
Speaker 1: step up at receiver than I would at dB. So
Speaker 1: I like the idea of cycling and trying to stock
Speaker 1: the depth chart at dB and keeping that in better shape, basically,
Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to say. And if there will
Speaker 1: be listen, b you were right, he's not long for
Speaker 1: the world. That's that's dramatic. But and I mean if
Speaker 1: you don't, if you don't hit a home run with
Speaker 1: receiver in this draft, I think you can deal with
Speaker 1: it next year and it's not the end of the world.
Speaker 1: Do you agree with that? Yeah? They still have hope
Speaker 1: for uh Devon Street Street. Devon Street going into his
Speaker 1: third year, you know, and Devon Street has gotten career
Speaker 1: recept Yeah, Devin Street needs to figure it out real fast,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, dude, But do you think they
Speaker 1: still have hope? Oh? Yeah, she would, But maybe they
Speaker 1: would stop them for taking a receiver. But but Nick
Speaker 1: Eaveman walked in there and just said that, you know,
Speaker 1: Derek Dooley is itching for some from for some receivers.
Speaker 1: All position coaches are always itching from there. Guys, I
Speaker 1: look in the war room right now, Stephen Jones is
Speaker 1: on the phone. At this time, When Stephen Jones is
Speaker 1: on the phone like that and he's laughing, he's usually
Speaker 1: somebody from another team is uh calling him up and
Speaker 1: saying that, hey, we were going to take that guy
Speaker 1: right ahead right uh and behind you ste of a gun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what guys do. They like to like to call
Speaker 1: each other and say, oh, man, you took my guy
Speaker 1: off the board. So but he he's got nothing that
Speaker 1: he can he could trade some next year's picks, his
Speaker 1: compensatory picks. He cannot move at all. So he's probably
Speaker 1: and Jerry's gonna Jerry's gonna pick the phone up now
Speaker 1: and visit. They're gonna have a nice little laugh about
Speaker 1: about maybe some players that have gone back and forth.
Speaker 1: So anyway, but Kolby listened, b uh goes to the
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Oh wait, so um, we kind of got
Speaker 1: sidetracked I mean, break this receiver chart down. I mean,
Speaker 1: what are your hopes for Devin Street? You know what,
Speaker 1: I went into thinking that always going to be from
Speaker 1: the first year to the second year, there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a jump. And I didn't feel like that he got better.
Speaker 1: That's the problem that I had. And Lucky White hit.
Speaker 1: They found the way to get Lucky White hit the football.
Speaker 1: He became kind of a gadget player. They didn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's not as yeah point yeah. I mean he's a
Speaker 1: you know, he's a he's that type of a guy. So,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm really, uh, I'm kind of of shocked
Speaker 1: that they didn't, you know, they maybe didn't address this
Speaker 1: a little bit earlier. I mean, you talk about two
Speaker 1: what's going on? Maybe they maybe they have high hopes
Speaker 1: you know for maybe so Yeah, I mean I think
Speaker 1: if I had to guess, I don't think Terrence Williams
Speaker 1: gets another contract here. No, I don't think so either.
Speaker 1: But like I said, okay, he's your he's your number
Speaker 1: two Beasley's obviously, I mean, he's gonna be your slot guy.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna be your number two outside receiver. But
Speaker 1: don't you feel like, you know, in next year's draft. Here,
Speaker 1: I have the list, I have the guys. I have
Speaker 1: the dudes I need right here. Second round ye where
Speaker 1: they I mean the guys like will Fuller come to find?
Speaker 1: You know you can go second round name Shepherd Fuller,
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas at what forty three? I think forty seven? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you plug a guy like that right in there and
Speaker 1: first round grade. I mean, that's that's more than adequate.
Speaker 1: You know, this is not a position that you need
Speaker 1: to address multiple years in advance, at least not when
Speaker 1: you have things in place like Dez and Beasley already
Speaker 1: there and so, but he's different from what they have
Speaker 1: if they would have picked Lucab He's different from what
Speaker 1: they have with the vertibal player. Honest, I would have
Speaker 1: been jacked if they'd gotten a guy like will Fuller.
Speaker 1: Just I mean in terms of the speed. I know
Speaker 1: you don't like his hands, but I think there will be.
Speaker 1: It's a plug and play position, is what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to say. And so if you don't get your guy
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, try again next year. I think you'll
Speaker 1: be fine. The Tennessee tightens it s ninety three. Take
Speaker 1: the Arkansas guard Tratola Tratola, former Nevada player, transferred six four,
Speaker 1: three hundred fifteen pounds. Guys has some weight issues. He
Speaker 1: lost over fifty pounds since he arrived in Fayetteville, so
Speaker 1: you know, he needs to stay make sure he you know,
Speaker 1: keeps that weight under control. Maturity has been a question
Speaker 1: in the past, so a couple building blocks. He does
Speaker 1: have the size, obviously, and he has the strength. He's
Speaker 1: going to be a grinder. He's that type of player,
Speaker 1: and so I think whether he's pushing for a starting
Speaker 1: job or not. He's a guy that's started almost every
Speaker 1: game the last two years of left guard. A lot
Speaker 1: to work with there. Yeah, I was. I was kind
Speaker 1: of going back and reading my notes as you were
Speaker 1: going there. I thought he was a powerful guy, and
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, for a big guy, he can
Speaker 1: hook his guy. He could he catches him and then
Speaker 1: gets a little bit of push with him. He can
Speaker 1: hold initial quickness for the position. He could sustain blocks good,
Speaker 1: adjust on the second level down block, then adjust a
Speaker 1: little bit out of control in space. There's sometimes they
Speaker 1: asked him to pull and he just wasn't very good
Speaker 1: at doing that. But you know, you could you could
Speaker 1: see a little bit of a one shot block or
Speaker 1: in this guy then try and sustain. But there's some
Speaker 1: times where he's off balance, good on the blitz, kind
Speaker 1: of a good pass pro guy when he can get
Speaker 1: his hands inside. So that's the Tennessee Titans that would
Speaker 1: be their guy. To a player just went that. We
Speaker 1: talked about the Cowboys having possible interest in maybe in
Speaker 1: one of those comp picks. Corey James. Yeah, linebacker from
Speaker 1: Colorado State. We drafted our armlocked draft draft show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we sure did Corey James. And we all liked Corey
Speaker 1: James a lot, and uh we we you had a
Speaker 1: little bit concerned where would you play Corey James at
Speaker 1: The Cowboys brought him in as one of the thirty visits.
Speaker 1: Reggie McKenzie grabs him with pick six, one ninety four. Uh,
Speaker 1: with to the Oakland Raiders. Here's a guy that can rush,
Speaker 1: can play, I mean he could play at his feet.
Speaker 1: He was a handdown guy initially the four to three
Speaker 1: and then they switched schemes. He went to a three
Speaker 1: to four and he was doing those things. So, uh,
Speaker 1: Corey James, maybe he as we've you know, talked about
Speaker 1: some replacements for for Benson Mayowah Benson Mayowah was a
Speaker 1: guy that was a rusher outside linebacker for that for
Speaker 1: their team. And they're showing them highlights right now of
Speaker 1: Kobe Lisson and it's all vertical routes and so does best.
Speaker 1: That's what he does best. That's absolutely absolutely it's what
Speaker 1: he does. It's what he does best. That's what he does. Do.
Speaker 1: The other stuff just not quite as good as quite
Speaker 1: as good. Okay, we are, We're very nice. Okay, So
Speaker 1: this is gonna be pick uh pick one ninety five.
Speaker 1: This is the it's I got. Atlanta has his pick
Speaker 1: right now, and let's see who the Atlanta Falcons in
Speaker 1: fact are able to draft. Uh here with this pick.
Speaker 1: I got some like reverb in my ear going on
Speaker 1: right now. We got a player on the phone. Maybe
Speaker 1: we're good with that. We don't have a player on
Speaker 1: the phone. Okay, No, I'm sorry about that, which is
Speaker 1: kind of maybe maybe I'm hearing things right now. I
Speaker 1: was actually tweeting about this earlier, So shame on me
Speaker 1: for leaving it off. We're talking about all these wide receivers.
Speaker 1: Nicholas makes the great point. Bryce Butler's still kicking around tea. No, absolutely,
Speaker 1: he's a big, fast guy. Yeah, he can do that.
Speaker 1: And he's entering free agency as well. But um, they
Speaker 1: traded their fifth ye this year for him, so they
Speaker 1: did almost like they drafted him this year. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna go as far as to say that I have
Speaker 1: like high, high, high high expectations for the guy, but
Speaker 1: he showed enough last year that I'm intrigued to see
Speaker 1: what he can do. Yeah, if he can stay healthy.
Speaker 1: He was battling a hamstring injury. Um, but he took
Speaker 1: him out a lot of games. He fits that, it did,
Speaker 1: but he fits that mold of a big, fast outside
Speaker 1: receiver who can do those types of things. And it
Speaker 1: looks like that. The Falcons to guard West Sweitzer. Schweitzer, Yeah,
Speaker 1: from San Jose State, and he fusting They listened as
Speaker 1: a guard. He was a tackle in San Jose State,
Speaker 1: six four, three hundred pounds. UM. I gave him p
Speaker 1: F a grade. He worked out really well, and I
Speaker 1: think that's what while we're seeing him being drafted more
Speaker 1: so for the workouts than the tape. But a solid
Speaker 1: athlete who probably best inside a guard, but did play
Speaker 1: tackle mostly at San Jose State. Okay, so that would
Speaker 1: be him that once again. That pick went at six
Speaker 1: five to the Atlanta Falcons. Uh, Candiser anything on Twitter?
Speaker 1: Anybody wants to know about from us? Yeah, we want
Speaker 1: a pro comparison for Anthony Brown. What kind of a
Speaker 1: player is he? Guys that are already in the league.
Speaker 1: Pro comparison for Anthony Own. Okay, five eleven one nine
Speaker 1: five run for three speed for three speed. Trying to
Speaker 1: think about that with that all on y'all, y'all are
Speaker 1: the scouts? Yeah, Dan, he just doing the measurables, trying
Speaker 1: to I'm picturing him play, watching him on tape, epperdue,
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to think who that kind of mirrors
Speaker 1: at the NFL game. Let's come back to that. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll come up with one here. Yeah, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think in my head. Okay said, I want to throw
Speaker 1: out a name, and yeah, unless it's good. We got
Speaker 1: the audio, the audio from the call for for Anthony Brown.
Speaker 1: Let's go to that right now. Hey, Anthony, this Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones's scowboys. We called them, tell you we just drafted you.
Speaker 1: We're turning your card in up there, and uh, congratulations.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, and I really appreciate well, you got
Speaker 1: some weight supporting the room and the scout. It's uh,
Speaker 1: I thought a lot of you get in here and
Speaker 1: make this team and have you a great career in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Okay, but congratulations, you're Dallas Cowboy. All right
Speaker 1: now listen, here's your head coach, Jason Garrett. He won't
Speaker 1: say welcome to you as well, here he is. Anthony. Congratulations,
Speaker 1: I appreciated. Well, we're excited about you, and I can't
Speaker 1: wait to get you here and put you to work.
Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm riving. Okay, it's a great day. Gross
Speaker 1: to look forward to seeing you next week. All right,
Speaker 1: see you, okay, buddy, take care and there you go.
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown, it sound like he was a little little emotional,
Speaker 1: yeah and shocked. Oh yeah. Well good for him though,
Speaker 1: I mean he's, uh, he's going to get an opportunity.
Speaker 1: And then what we know about the Cowboys with some
Speaker 1: of the uh some of the needs maybe not so
Speaker 1: much for this year, but maybe even for next year
Speaker 1: down the road as far as guys that they're going
Speaker 1: to have to replace. So Anthony Brown, though, is a
Speaker 1: very talented football player, and uh, you know he's gonna
Speaker 1: come in here and and there's no doubt he will
Speaker 1: compete on a on a very high level. I liked
Speaker 1: what I saw from him at Purdue, I really did.
Speaker 1: I think the speed's legitimate. I think the quitness is legitimate.
Speaker 1: I think he knows how to play routes. A lot
Speaker 1: of positive things about him. I've got my comp for
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown. Hit me my comparison. I'm going with Tracy Porter.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's been in the league, you know, a
Speaker 1: while now. I think he was You got my attention.
Speaker 1: He was a second rounder back in eight. Yeah, two
Speaker 1: thousand and eight. Very good memory. Well, he played for
Speaker 1: my hometown team. That's true. I won a super Bowl. Um,
Speaker 1: he won a super Bowl. He's whatever he does for
Speaker 1: the rest of his life. He's one of the two
Speaker 1: or three biggest heroes in New Orleans history. So paying
Speaker 1: off Peyton Manning and Brett Fife in back to back
Speaker 1: games super Bowl, sure did. But he has, you know,
Speaker 1: not the biggest, but solid in terms of size, five
Speaker 1: to eleven, one hundred and ninety pounds or so, excellent speed, yeah,
Speaker 1: and so has some playmaking skills, has the confidence. I
Speaker 1: think Tracy Porter would be my comp if we're looking
Speaker 1: for one for Anthony Brown. Yeah. Martin on Twitter wants
Speaker 1: to know what the Cowboys could possibly get a kickoff
Speaker 1: returner punt returner with one of these three last picks.
Speaker 1: I really really and I didn't think they would spend
Speaker 1: a draft pick on him, but I wanted Jachim Grant
Speaker 1: to wind up here. I thought he's he's a Texas guy.
Speaker 1: If he falls out of the draft, I think the
Speaker 1: Cowboys call him and maybe he comes here. You see
Speaker 1: things like that all the times guys picked the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: either because the money's good, or because it's close, or
Speaker 1: because it's the Cowboys. Who's my kid from Colorado Pueblo. Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: thats the running the wide receiver. Oh the kid that
Speaker 1: got four two? Yeah, he has workout. Yeah, you got
Speaker 1: her book? Where's our where's your book? It's in your book?
Speaker 1: Got it, wide receiver? Why can't I remember guys that
Speaker 1: I like? Because there's too many? Yeah, I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm I'm to the point now I got brain dead.
Speaker 1: They have been talking all weekends, hearing Duncan Duncan here,
Speaker 1: Karen Duncan. Yeah, if you watch Karen Duncan's t you
Speaker 1: can move a little bit. Yeah, Karen Duncan is one
Speaker 1: of those guys that when the ball is in his
Speaker 1: hands on punt return, kick return, more so, is a
Speaker 1: punt returner. Guys got some I don't think he was
Speaker 1: in Dane rode him up at the best. Let me
Speaker 1: let me, let me see if let me see if
Speaker 1: I got any Karen Duncan for you guys here, uh
Speaker 1: at the I think he's a draft pick or do
Speaker 1: you think he's a priority for well, he's a guy
Speaker 1: that can. I know one thing. When I watched him
Speaker 1: on tape, I don't. I didn't. I watched him a
Speaker 1: little bit. I saw some on tape of him as
Speaker 1: a returner, and he wasn't one of those guys that uh.
Speaker 1: I mean, he really stood out that way. Not to
Speaker 1: h not to interrupt you, but interesting over here on
Speaker 1: the warm room cam you kind of got Joe Bakers
Speaker 1: still kicking around, as is Greg Jackson. So both defensive
Speaker 1: back coaches. And they might still be there from the
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown pick. But no, they're trying to figure out
Speaker 1: right now they're over by the board, they're they're now
Speaker 1: they're thinking about numbers. Now they're thinking about, Okay, how
Speaker 1: many guys do we want to take the camp and
Speaker 1: they're gonna try and line up the priority order of
Speaker 1: how they want to do these uh these uh these
Speaker 1: finally six round picks, the pick at one at two twelve,
Speaker 1: the pick there at two sixteen and two seventeen. So
Speaker 1: what they're trying to do is figure out, Okay, who
Speaker 1: do we need to fight for our draft now that
Speaker 1: we don't want to fight for in free agency. You know,
Speaker 1: that's that's kind of doing what they're standard. The board
Speaker 1: they're looking at right now is their actual as the stack,
Speaker 1: and then also the board by by the round. Uh,
Speaker 1: so they're trying to figure out how they want to
Speaker 1: make these picks come off. Will McClay pointing okay, saying okay,
Speaker 1: that one, then that one, then that one, and you
Speaker 1: can see how he's using his fingers to say, this
Speaker 1: is what they're gonna do. So anyway, Uh, let's see
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay is on the clock at one ninety seven. Again,
Speaker 1: this is all about what the Cowboys are doing here
Speaker 1: to try and prioritize what order they want to take
Speaker 1: these guys, because the picks are going to go back
Speaker 1: to back and they want to make sure that they
Speaker 1: help helps them with their numbers of their team as well,
Speaker 1: so Chargers that they showed the Chargers on the clock.
Speaker 1: Uh at they had two picks come off the board. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about that. What's excuse me? West Switcher. We
Speaker 1: talked about the guard and then now Philadelphia took Blake Countess,
Speaker 1: uh from a defensive back from Auburn. Auburn, he was
Speaker 1: Michigan transfer, one of those fifth year guys under sized,
Speaker 1: under five eighty five pounds. Not a fan. I don't know.
Speaker 1: They tried him at corner and then he moved into safety. Uh.
Speaker 1: Too many negative players on his tape for me, but
Speaker 1: I mean I wrote them up, and um, you know,
Speaker 1: I think maybe on special teams he can do something.
Speaker 1: But not a big fan. And JJ Wat's a little
Speaker 1: brother j J. Watt. They yeah before him though, let's
Speaker 1: see yeah Sandy Okay. The Tampa Bay took Dan Batally
Speaker 1: right from Northwestern, a guy that played in the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 1: We got a little bit of taste of his work.
Speaker 1: And then Derek Watt a pick from the from the
Speaker 1: San Diego Chargers from Minnesota Vikings at pick one ninety eight.
Speaker 1: He's Wisconsin kid. He gets drafted by the Chargers, so
Speaker 1: fullbacks back to back. Tampa takes by Tally, San Diego
Speaker 1: takes Wat talk a little bit about Dan, but Tally,
Speaker 1: if he would their dame. He played the super back
Speaker 1: position for Northwestern, so he did a little bit of
Speaker 1: everything from the slot to in line to the wing,
Speaker 1: even lined up as a as a fullback. So he's, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of that that versatile H back type
Speaker 1: of player. He's very competitive guy, whether it's as a
Speaker 1: lead blocker at pass protection, does a lot of things.
Speaker 1: He enjoys the dirty work, he has no problem with that,
Speaker 1: has some natural receiving traits, finds the football quickly. I
Speaker 1: mean now he's not like a He's not going to
Speaker 1: carry the ball very off and only six career carries
Speaker 1: but one hundred and thirty five catches over his career,
Speaker 1: so uh, you know, six one, two hundred and forty pounds.
Speaker 1: He's that versaile h back. And a little bit about
Speaker 1: Derek Watt if you have, he's forever gonna be known
Speaker 1: as JJ's little brother. There's no way around that, right.
Speaker 1: Um he was at Wisconsin just like his brother. Uh,
Speaker 1: he was underused throughout his career. Um, I think that
Speaker 1: you know he can as a as a pass receiver.
Speaker 1: I mean he can do that. He just he doesn't
Speaker 1: stand out in any really one area. His best ability
Speaker 1: might be that he can also long snap, which can
Speaker 1: help you and save a roster spot. So I don't know,
Speaker 1: I wasn't blown away with with why I think you
Speaker 1: know he's he's football focused. There's a lot of things
Speaker 1: alike about his mentality as intensity as a football player,
Speaker 1: but uh, not gonna give you much as a as
Speaker 1: a ball carried, not going to give you much as
Speaker 1: a receiver special teams and as a long snapper where
Speaker 1: JJ Watt's gonna have to earn his roster spot. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And since a Bengals just selected uh Cody core a
Speaker 1: wide receiver from Mississippi States, Yeah as well, so uh
Speaker 1: they all miss Rebels represented now once again in this
Speaker 1: drafts actually wide Cincinna Bengals with that selection at pick
Speaker 1: six one ninety nine. Um, just kind of looking as
Speaker 1: Bill park Sells would say, my board looks a little
Speaker 1: bit like a three day old Thanksgiving turkey. It's been
Speaker 1: picked over pretty good. Right now. Let me are still
Speaker 1: some names so in that fourth round and that I
Speaker 1: like and I keep talking about lawlor In Cash and
Speaker 1: guys like that. I'm really surprised that their names have
Speaker 1: not been mentioned. I feel like a big old Homer Dane.
Speaker 1: But Jalen Mills is a third round grade in your book,
Speaker 1: and he really sits. It's the off field stuff that
Speaker 1: has to be I mean, I agree if Robinson went
Speaker 1: before him, how about that. Yeah, teams are just aren't
Speaker 1: comfortable with you know, the reports they've gotten back from uh,
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's LSU coaches, uh, you know, people
Speaker 1: around him, the owned work they've done with the interviews
Speaker 1: his legal past. Teams just aren't comfortable with it at
Speaker 1: this point. I still and honestly that that in itself
Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me, because I mean, he was in a
Speaker 1: domestic violence incident. He was nearly kicked off of Ellis
Speaker 1: Who's team a couple of years ago. But during this
Speaker 1: entire draft process, it really hasn't been a talking point. No,
Speaker 1: it hasn't. And I get it was a mistaken assumption,
Speaker 1: but I guess I was under the assumption that the
Speaker 1: little amount of attention that it had gotten, kind of
Speaker 1: like Dak Prescott and the DUI, meant that, you know,
Speaker 1: people felt confident it was an isolated incident, and this
Speaker 1: one's been a sponge since from his record. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: it's something that and I'll read this right from my report,
Speaker 1: Offield character a question mark following a May twenty fourteen
Speaker 1: incident where he was charged with striking a woman in
Speaker 1: the face, requiring four stitches. Second degree battery. Charge was
Speaker 1: dropped to a misdemeanor simple battery. He enrolled in a
Speaker 1: one year intervention program instead of standing trial, and that
Speaker 1: charge since been a sponge from his record. So you know,
Speaker 1: even though it's been a sponge, it still happened. In
Speaker 1: NFL team's not going to ignore something like that. It
Speaker 1: was a four year starter. He's played free safety's played corner.
Speaker 1: He's very talented. At the Senior Bowl, I thought he
Speaker 1: had a great week running routes, four receivers and making plays.
Speaker 1: The off off field baggage that's really weighing him down
Speaker 1: right now. I consider domestic violence to be the greatest
Speaker 1: baggage of all and kudos to NFL teams for taking
Speaker 1: it seriously. Um, I guess, I guess I was just
Speaker 1: you know, the the lack of the lack of attention
Speaker 1: that it got. I guess I thought that meant that
Speaker 1: that NFL teams were a little more um comfortable with it,
Speaker 1: but apparently not. Yeah. Well, at the Green Bay Packers
Speaker 1: are on the clock right now. This is a this
Speaker 1: is pick six two hundred as we work our way
Speaker 1: to pick two fifty three. The Packers, uh have have
Speaker 1: done some things. We've talked about them adding some offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: You know, we've I documented about Teddy Thompson and his
Speaker 1: love for the pack twelve uh in in that in
Speaker 1: that regard he likes the guys, those tough, smart players. Uh,
Speaker 1: a lot of those guys, you do get This is
Speaker 1: the final pick of the night for the Packers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna do some uh,
Speaker 1: they're gonna do some uh some good here they think,
Speaker 1: and then uh and then try and hunker down and
Speaker 1: see what happens in the very very m Yeah, Kyle Murphy,
Speaker 1: there gotta go. So there you go. There's another Ted
Speaker 1: Thompson special. Number two two hundred was Kyle Murphy offensive
Speaker 1: tackle from Stanford, very tough guy, Dane, in which you
Speaker 1: and your approach on him, him and Josh Gardnett really
Speaker 1: formed a dynamic duo on the left side of that
Speaker 1: Stanford line. Uh, A little bit of a tweener for me.
Speaker 1: I don't can he stay at tackle? I don't know.
Speaker 1: Does he have to move inside the guard? Does he
Speaker 1: have you know, the base strength and the quick reset
Speaker 1: to stay at guard. I'm not sure. A little bit
Speaker 1: of of a tweener there, so, but Green Bay needs
Speaker 1: death at both spots, so you know whether he's a tackle,
Speaker 1: whether he's a guard, maybe a little bit of both.
Speaker 1: I think that death will help that team. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: liked him better on taped, and we saw him at
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl a little bit. Have some struggles there,
Speaker 1: but Michael Length, Yeah, I thought that, you know, a
Speaker 1: little bit of a push blocker, you can capture the Edgeohn.
Speaker 1: You gotta watch him. He'll lose that balance on you.
Speaker 1: He'll give up the inside. Doesn't have much snap to
Speaker 1: his blocks, but he could kick to the edge. You
Speaker 1: gotta watch him though. He could get walked back. We
Speaker 1: saw that a little bit at the Senior Bowl right there,
Speaker 1: and I'm worried about him though, getting snatched off balance
Speaker 1: a little bit. So we'll see how Kyle Murphy works
Speaker 1: out for the Green Bay Packers. The Jacksonville Jaguars have
Speaker 1: handed in their card. They're now at pick it's six
Speaker 1: two h one and uh be interest. They've gone really
Speaker 1: all defense in this draft. So I have a feeling
Speaker 1: this is going to be an offensive player. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: and you know there's probably there's some offensive guys that
Speaker 1: are still on this board. Uhaway. Jacksonville is in the
Speaker 1: running for them having the best draft. They they're so
Speaker 1: let's see if they can continue that here. But yeah,
Speaker 1: you look at it with Jalen Ramsey emails, Jack dah
Speaker 1: Shelton Day, Tyrone Holmes. These are all four guys that
Speaker 1: are going to be in the top and in the
Speaker 1: front seven and right, oh, the other guy, Jalen Ramsey, Right,
Speaker 1: so five playmakers. The guy did you mentioned the fact
Speaker 1: that Dante Fowler's coming back? Oh yeah, who's the first
Speaker 1: runner from last year? That's right, Yeah, has not played
Speaker 1: down of NFL football yet. But so it's almost like
Speaker 1: they get another first rounder this year and you're three
Speaker 1: of Blake Bortles with that wide receiver first round bordals
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, he needs to take that next step
Speaker 1: down on the interception him and those receivers though not
Speaker 1: bad when you have an Alan Robinson. The third two
Speaker 1: not at all looks like the Comlin they're getting my
Speaker 1: best friend. Yeah, I've got my Twitter, pick your Twitter,
Speaker 1: your Twitter, Buddy Man Hammer Friends, Mike Tom, He's got that.
Speaker 1: He's guys jump man thing working today too, Eddie jump Man,
Speaker 1: jump Man, jump man. How about that Brandon Allen Allan,
Speaker 1: how about that pick right there? A sixth round? I
Speaker 1: love it? I mean again, Jacksonville continues to have a nice,
Speaker 1: a nice day with Brandon Allen. Yeah. I had Brandon
Speaker 1: Allen on my board. Uh in the fourth round, I
Speaker 1: had it's today as we started, it was Connor Cook,
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott who the Cowboys did take, and then Brandon
Speaker 1: Allen man in the fourth rout of fifth round grade
Speaker 1: on him. So I'm right there with you, the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys could stand to learn a thing or two
Speaker 1: from some of these teams. Uh. Yesterday New England drafted
Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissette despite having Jimmy Garoppolo. But they they're gonna lose,
Speaker 1: they let me finish, so they need a guy they
Speaker 1: need and you know they want to have depth for
Speaker 1: their backup or a guy that can push Garoppolo Jacksonville
Speaker 1: resigned Chad Henny to an agreeable veteran contract to back
Speaker 1: up Blake Bortles. But why not just go ahead and
Speaker 1: get a guy that you can bring in there and
Speaker 1: have be your third hen he's not gonna be around forever.
Speaker 1: Can develop him to be Bortles's back up when Henny
Speaker 1: decides to go. Yeah, I don't disagree with you at all.
Speaker 1: Right there, it's maybe the best. It's maybe this draft
Speaker 1: is really easy when you do it the right way.
Speaker 1: It's maybe my favorite thing Dane says, which is that
Speaker 1: drafting a quarterbacks just like buying a powerball ticket. Just
Speaker 1: ye do it? Yeah, every year? Why not? Why not?
Speaker 1: What lake you're talking to a guy? It was in
Speaker 1: Green Bay that we did it all the time. Just
Speaker 1: do it, and hell he could be a beast, and
Speaker 1: if he's not, whatever you're trying. I like that strategy
Speaker 1: a lot. I think it's the right way to do it.
Speaker 1: I definitely think you should draft more than two quarterbacks
Speaker 1: for twenty years. You look at what the Patriots do.
Speaker 1: You look at I mean good teams, that's what they do.
Speaker 1: They draft quarterbacks and in some cases you can flip
Speaker 1: that quarterback four picks on the road. You know, you
Speaker 1: can turn a six rounder into a second or third rounder.
Speaker 1: Now the Patriots, they've done it and it hasn't worked
Speaker 1: out in certain situations. Ryan Mallett, you know they that
Speaker 1: didn't quite work out for them. Well, Jimmy Garoppolo, we'll
Speaker 1: see if they have If Jacoby Brissette, if they feel
Speaker 1: strong enough with him coming along, they might deal Garoppolo,
Speaker 1: who I think is in the Tony Romo mold. I
Speaker 1: think he can start in this league be a Tony
Speaker 1: Romo type of passer. So absolutely, I think it's just
Speaker 1: smart business to draft a quarterback, if not every year,
Speaker 1: you know every other year, especially if you have more
Speaker 1: than six or seven picks. So we're waiting right now
Speaker 1: for the Detroit Lions to make their selection there at
Speaker 1: pick uh where at six two o two uh we uh,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys will pick again. If you want to understand
Speaker 1: where they're at on the board, where we're actually one, two, three, four,
Speaker 1: five six picks away from being out of the round
Speaker 1: and then into the compensatory picks the Cowboys in this
Speaker 1: in this final, in the sixth round, that these will
Speaker 1: be their final picks because they will not be able
Speaker 1: unless they trade next year's one or not an extra one,
Speaker 1: but a next year's selection to get back in like
Speaker 1: they did last year. They will have picks again at
Speaker 1: at six two twelve and then pick six two sixteen
Speaker 1: and at six two seventeen. So what we saw a
Speaker 1: little bit was them on the board. They were trying
Speaker 1: to line these guys up on how they want to
Speaker 1: select them. They're gonna happen. It's gonna happen fast. They
Speaker 1: just want to make sure they get the order right.
Speaker 1: And in the case that somebody umps, it's a case
Speaker 1: that one of their they lose with their picks. Say,
Speaker 1: for example, uh, they make that pick at two twelve.
Speaker 1: San Francisco picks there, New England picks there, Seattle picks there.
Speaker 1: So they got to make sure that they've got this
Speaker 1: thing squared up the right way in case they get jumped,
Speaker 1: not jump, but one of their guys goes. Okay, it
Speaker 1: looks like that. Anthony Zettel is the selection for the
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions at six two o two, the defensive tackle
Speaker 1: from the from them from Penn State, So any thoughts
Speaker 1: on him there, Dane third Penn State, and any lyon
Speaker 1: off that defensive line to be drafted following Uh, Carl Nassem,
Speaker 1: and Austin Johnson. H Zettel is a player that highly competitive.
Speaker 1: It hates to come off the field. He's a tweener,
Speaker 1: though where do you plan him? He is not quite
Speaker 1: a defensive tackle, not quite an end. I think that
Speaker 1: position confusion is why he's here in the sixth round.
Speaker 1: But bursts off the ball, plays with power, plays with
Speaker 1: pop and his hands UH and the motor just doesn't
Speaker 1: stop the guy just he will continue to fight through
Speaker 1: the echo of the whistle. And so I think that's
Speaker 1: that's something that's He's gonna make it extremely tough for
Speaker 1: the coaches to cut a guy like that because his
Speaker 1: efforts off the charts. And that would be yes, Anthony Zettel.
Speaker 1: I just some of my notes, looking from what I
Speaker 1: saw on tape myself lines up something as a three
Speaker 1: technique pad level gets a little high at times, some
Speaker 1: initial quickness will fire into the gap. Doesn't have many
Speaker 1: pass rush moves. He's a he's really a try hard guy.
Speaker 1: When it comes to that, you can wall him out.
Speaker 1: Doesn't always hold the point very well. It doesn't always
Speaker 1: keep blockers off. His body work down the line of
Speaker 1: scrimmage that a little trouble getting the edge as a
Speaker 1: rush or spin moved to free himself. But like you said, Dan,
Speaker 1: he's a guy that doesn't want to come off the
Speaker 1: field efforts there. You know he's gonna he's you know,
Speaker 1: he's gone of those guys. Don't be surprised he makes
Speaker 1: the team because coaches have a prompt cutting guys that
Speaker 1: showed that they care the passion and they want to
Speaker 1: coach his favorite players. That's coaches are. Yeah. My biggest
Speaker 1: issue with him is he just doesn't play with a plan. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he just kind of all right, snap go, you know,
Speaker 1: he's gonna try and make something happy. He doesn't really
Speaker 1: put thought into his pass, rush, um and so he'll
Speaker 1: abandon his gaps at times. Yeah, you know, doesn't play
Speaker 1: with proper techniques. So he just, like you said, to
Speaker 1: try hard. A guy that relies more on motor than
Speaker 1: technique to get the job done. Okay, So now we're
Speaker 1: at the Miami Dolphins have this pick. Uh well actually
Speaker 1: excuse me, Kansas City's got this pick. It's pick six
Speaker 1: two oh three. Uh, they could go a couple different ways. Again,
Speaker 1: you're looking for guys with traits, Uh, we had all
Speaker 1: those defensive ends in that fourth round those underside maybe
Speaker 1: looking for a linebacker type of guy, knowing John Dorsey,
Speaker 1: Andy Reid and that guy. They're trying to maybe help
Speaker 1: their defense here, uh with you know, uh Scooby rights
Speaker 1: out the Scoobies right out there. We had, We had
Speaker 1: Oche was out there, Fanica, Daddy Nicholas. I mean we
Speaker 1: had all those guys. Odd we talked about odd Man
Speaker 1: of Cavage is a tough, tough, try hard guy. Uh
Speaker 1: bhc to see, maybe they're gonna add somebody to help
Speaker 1: uh this defense. Like we haven't had a Buckeye in
Speaker 1: a while. We need one of those left. There's been
Speaker 1: like there's three left, uh Tivis Powell, Jalen Marshall, and
Speaker 1: then um, if they're gonna set the record, they need
Speaker 1: uh Chase Ferris to be drafted. So three maybees here
Speaker 1: in the last fifty Could you think that they could
Speaker 1: get what do you think they'll get him in the
Speaker 1: seventh round? Do you think that will be the Do
Speaker 1: you think somebody will hit hit those picks? It's it's
Speaker 1: a big bossible. There we go. Yeah, there's Daddy Nicholas there.
Speaker 1: Daddy Nicholas Chiefs. Daddy Nicholas goes to the Kansas Chiefs.
Speaker 1: We were talking about on my board, I had those
Speaker 1: fourth round rushers. Uh, the guys that were undersized. Where
Speaker 1: do you play him? Where do you play Daddy Nicholas?
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, he's listed as a linebacker with the
Speaker 1: with the Chiefs, so uh, he was a deepitsive ended edge.
Speaker 1: He's an edge. That's when I don't know what to
Speaker 1: do with the dude. I just write for him in there.
Speaker 1: He's two hundred and thirty five pounds. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: no way he can hold up unless he's a wide
Speaker 1: nine type of defensive end. Right. He needs space, So
Speaker 1: it makes sense to play him off the line in
Speaker 1: a scheme like the Chiefs. So uh, you know he's
Speaker 1: going to be a pass rush specialist, but he he
Speaker 1: needs a lot of work before you know, Daddy Nicholas
Speaker 1: is going to see the field consistent. Oh yeah, they
Speaker 1: flew a guy out to London to do this. I
Speaker 1: saw the Jaguars that excuse me, very nice? Is d
Speaker 1: Ford doing things in Kansas City? Or we'll find out
Speaker 1: this year with what's his name, hurt Um? What their
Speaker 1: best player Houston? Yeah, Yeah, justin Houston with him out
Speaker 1: with a torn acl he's out for the year already. Well.
Speaker 1: He they think he might be able to come back
Speaker 1: later in the year, but he's uh, he'll be out
Speaker 1: for at least the first half of the year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but there's Thomas still there. So yeah, my guy Tombahali
Speaker 1: Uh like yeah, Daddy Nicholas, I you know you're right
Speaker 1: Dan about the you know, about being undersized. But he's
Speaker 1: impressive though. He's got some quickness to him to swim
Speaker 1: those blocks. Uh, he's best. We could play on the move.
Speaker 1: You get him on the move. He's got a great shot.
Speaker 1: He's got the quickness to get around the edge. He
Speaker 1: could be washed a little bit, but not afraid to
Speaker 1: take on place as a stand up guy. I think
Speaker 1: that's what the Chiefs see in him. Knows for the football,
Speaker 1: quick with his hands. Uh, you know, he's got the
Speaker 1: speed to get to the corner. Let's see if he
Speaker 1: does it all the time. I mean, he's got the
Speaker 1: reach that lenked when he gets in the pocket, he
Speaker 1: could affect the quarterback. I saw some games North Carolina
Speaker 1: State Tulsa, Ohio State where he was able to effect
Speaker 1: because of his reach in the pocket getting around the corner,
Speaker 1: so we will see. Okay, So the Miami Dolphins are
Speaker 1: on the clock at six two o four, their pick
Speaker 1: is in. It's uh, we're getting out again. I've said
Speaker 1: a bunch in this round about the traits. You know,
Speaker 1: you know there's some names that are that we I mean,
Speaker 1: I'll ask you to reset some of the guys that
Speaker 1: you have available, Dane and see if maybe you can
Speaker 1: hit one of these guys that they might pick here. Well,
Speaker 1: we got Jeremy Cash at the top right, Duke's safety,
Speaker 1: Jalen Mills defensive back. We talked about Kenny Lawler, the receiver,
Speaker 1: Scooby Wright linebacker, Darryl Greens in Diego State guard, Harlan
Speaker 1: Miller of the corner from Southeastern Louisiana. Schroon Peak Clemson.
Speaker 1: What are you thinking maybe secondary here? I think it's
Speaker 1: secondary myself. I mean, I you know, I mean, Harlan
Speaker 1: Miller is still out there. He had a nice week
Speaker 1: in Mobile, A player who you know didn't run really
Speaker 1: well to combine, and I think that has really hurt
Speaker 1: him and why he's still available at this point. Do
Speaker 1: you think teams went back in though and time got
Speaker 1: better time on him though. I mean, do you feel
Speaker 1: like that maybe that, you know, with Harley Miller, because
Speaker 1: his tape was pretty good, there wasn't. I thought he
Speaker 1: had nice week of the senior boy. He ran a
Speaker 1: four six five at the combine, but then a four
Speaker 1: or five to seven at the pro day. So yeah,
Speaker 1: a little bit better. Is still not ideal for a corner.
Speaker 1: But you know, six foot, one hundred and eighty pounds. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, he has has a size that you want,
Speaker 1: thirty one and a half inch arms, he has length. Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 1: Jordan Lucas, Jordan Lucas another secondary guy guy. He another
Speaker 1: guy tested really well, a player who missed second half
Speaker 1: of the season because of an injury. But once he
Speaker 1: had a chance to work out, he wowed some people. Um,
Speaker 1: you know he ran a four four five thirty eight
Speaker 1: and a half inch vert six seven zero three cones.
Speaker 1: So I think Jordan Lucas with his workout, you know,
Speaker 1: put him in this discussion to be drafted here, Okay,
Speaker 1: that that would that was the pick for the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Jordan Lucas defends back there from Penn State, Arizona is
Speaker 1: on the clock. It's a pick six h two oh five. Dallas. Again,
Speaker 1: we're two picks away from being in compensatory land where
Speaker 1: those picks cannot be traded. Uh, Dallas. As we look
Speaker 1: in the room over my shoulder. Uh, they're lining them up.
Speaker 1: Their first pick will be at two twelve. Then they
Speaker 1: will take another pick at sixteen or two sixteen, and
Speaker 1: then two seventeen, and they are done for the day
Speaker 1: that it becomes the scramble for college free agents. So
Speaker 1: what they're doing right now is they want to figure
Speaker 1: out in what order Jerry Jones standing there with Will McClay,
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones. They want to figure out how they want
Speaker 1: to play this so they don't want to have to
Speaker 1: fight for a guy in free agency. And then we
Speaker 1: saw last year that they gave a six round pick
Speaker 1: to San Francisco to get the rights to draft the guy.
Speaker 1: So we'll see if in fact that is the case.
Speaker 1: Everybody else in this organization moves around the war room
Speaker 1: at a pretty good click. I don't think Chris Hall
Speaker 1: gets up. Well, he's got the phone, Yeah, he's Chris
Speaker 1: is an old school scouter guy. Chris All again with Chris,
Speaker 1: he always sits, He always sits in the He used
Speaker 1: to sit in his office. If you look in the
Speaker 1: back end of office office, that's his office with the blinds. Uh. Right,
Speaker 1: next is it Hublow? You blow, you blow clock on
Speaker 1: the wall, beautiful clock on that wall, by the way,
Speaker 1: But that's his office back there. Yeah, and so Chris,
Speaker 1: But Chris is on the phone with Uh. I always
Speaker 1: think Robert Blackwell and Steve Gaglardino are at the Chicago
Speaker 1: right now. So that's I mean, like, that's Chris Hall's
Speaker 1: domain three hundred and sixty five days a year, right,
Speaker 1: So I always wonder how he feels about all these
Speaker 1: people all up in his space. Well, he knows, he
Speaker 1: knows when it's is over then that all those guys
Speaker 1: need to leave, they're gonna go away. That will go.
Speaker 1: There goes Harlan Miller. Okay, were you go? Harlan Miller?
Speaker 1: Right there? So nice job by Dame Brugler gave you
Speaker 1: a little scouting report on Harlan Miller and what he
Speaker 1: could potentially bring to the Arizona Cardinals at this point
Speaker 1: in the sixth round. You know, again didn't run real
Speaker 1: well at the Combine Oris Pro Day. But you know
Speaker 1: in sixth round, a player that played better than a
Speaker 1: six round round tape, and so I think that's what's
Speaker 1: most important. How to solid solid week at the Senior
Speaker 1: Bowling mobile. You could tell obviously very lean for a
Speaker 1: six foot or only one hundred and eighty pounds. The
Speaker 1: feet need to calm down a little bit, but you
Speaker 1: have some traits there you can work with. Okay, so
Speaker 1: that would be uh, that's Harley Miller, Arizona at pick six,
Speaker 1: two o five. That mains me, excuse me that the
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams are on the clock at six two
Speaker 1: h six. We are six picks away from the Cowboys
Speaker 1: making their selection at two twelve. We've talked about this
Speaker 1: a bunch, making sure they line these guys up. It
Speaker 1: is not gonna be a long wait after that. Two
Speaker 1: twelve now two sixteen and two seven. Yeah, they can
Speaker 1: go back to back, so we'll see how this thing.
Speaker 1: Make sure they they just do not want to fight
Speaker 1: for anybody in free agency. That's that's kind of tricky though,
Speaker 1: because it is well, they're well, but they're a full
Speaker 1: round ahead, I mean right, so they can exactly as
Speaker 1: of right now, we don't know if they will pick
Speaker 1: again once two seventeen is ok. Yeah, and there's some
Speaker 1: and there's some names on this board. I mean there's
Speaker 1: still some guys. Dan, do you have any fourth round names?
Speaker 1: Do you have any one or two fourth round names
Speaker 1: on this my board? I have? Uh yeah, I mean Scooby, right,
Speaker 1: Darryl Green? Uh see, Harlan Miller just went off. Sharone
Speaker 1: peaked the wide receiver. A. Lawler's still out there right,
Speaker 1: um and then in the fourth see Babe's gone. We
Speaker 1: talked about Lawler in cash. I mean those are those
Speaker 1: are top gar at the tight end? Yeah, couldjuiced. Uh,
Speaker 1: Morey's candidate. Yeah, he's still out there. Damn, he is
Speaker 1: still out there. Yeah. I like him. I like I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a senior Bowl guy. I thought he had a
Speaker 1: good week. I know. Brian says, he gets he gets baited.
Speaker 1: He gets baited into overplaying Mike Thomas. That's a great pick, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's just happened. Mike Thomas, the wide receiver from Southern
Speaker 1: miss goes to the Los Angeles Rams. Go ahead, Dane,
Speaker 1: talk about that one. I'm a big fan of this player.
Speaker 1: Shocked it in get invited to the combine. He thought
Speaker 1: he deserved it. Player, he was the ex receiver at
Speaker 1: Southern Miss. Uh. Now he gets a little crazy with
Speaker 1: his routes, needs to be a little more controlled. But
Speaker 1: he plays fast. He plays with the you know, burst
Speaker 1: out of his out of his cuts. Uh. He's very lean,
Speaker 1: you know, six one, but he's under two hundred pounds
Speaker 1: and I think he can't get pushed around at times.
Speaker 1: But I love the skill set. He'll go and he'll
Speaker 1: pluck the ball away from his frame. Very fleet of
Speaker 1: foot athlete. He's flexible. Uh. You see the footwork, he
Speaker 1: can sell patterns and he's worked his tail off. And
Speaker 1: he started his career at the College of DuPage. Then
Speaker 1: he went to Dodge City Community College, and then he
Speaker 1: went the Southern Miss and then this pass travel. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And because he was uh you know he was he
Speaker 1: was a basketball guy. And then he started playing football
Speaker 1: later in his career in high school. And so he
Speaker 1: went under recruited and he worked hard to get to
Speaker 1: this point. Uh. And he will outplay this draft position.
Speaker 1: And I promise you though, Yeah, and a nice pick
Speaker 1: right there. I totally agree that to me. Had him
Speaker 1: in the fifth round. Mike Thomas ends up at the Rams. Uh,
Speaker 1: that would be pick two six again, Well, traveled. Uh individual.
Speaker 1: It looks like that the forty nine ers pick is
Speaker 1: in and let me see that would be the final pick. Uh,
Speaker 1: that that can be traded. But it looks like the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers are gonna stand in there and make
Speaker 1: this pick. And let's see in fact who they take. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's uh again pick two O seven and then
Speaker 1: we have the compensatory comps and then and then the
Speaker 1: comps will start after that particular pick. And it looks
Speaker 1: like Jeff Driscoll is the selection, the last of the Bulldogs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Jeff Driscoll quarterback h from uh I wrote down Florida,
Speaker 1: he's actually Louisiana Tech. That just shows me. But I
Speaker 1: was thinking about him being as a I was thinking
Speaker 1: about him being a Florida Gator. So the actually Louisiana
Speaker 1: tick Bulldogs. Don't watch the Tech tape, don't watch the
Speaker 1: Florida tap. That's twelve quarterbacks drafted, now, am we had
Speaker 1: seven last year and we have twelve in the six
Speaker 1: And the question, I'm gonna say twelve quarterbacks and people
Speaker 1: really only feel good about I'm sorry, that's thirteen, Yeah,
Speaker 1: thirteen quarterbacks. Thirteen quarterbacks, all right? None of them Vernon Adams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: none of them, Vernon Adams. That's right. Okay, So now
Speaker 1: we're into competatory land. The New England Patriots are the
Speaker 1: first team with a competatory selection here at six two
Speaker 1: h eight, followed by the Baltimore Ravens and then the
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. Uh, these picks will go fast because again
Speaker 1: they'll have no opportunity to move them along. So we
Speaker 1: will see. In fact, you know, and I like, I
Speaker 1: say with with Dallas, I like their opportunity. I think
Speaker 1: we still have some names on this board. I've kind
Speaker 1: of like what Dallas has done here the last couple
Speaker 1: of picks that they've been able to make. I do
Speaker 1: like the selection, uh, you know with the quarterback with
Speaker 1: Dad Press Scott though. I think that was a nice
Speaker 1: way to go for Yeah. Absolutely, So we will see.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what we're gonna do. Can't if we can,
Speaker 1: let's take a little bit of a break here, kind
Speaker 1: of catch our breath. Dallas's got to pick at we
Speaker 1: said at two twelve, We'll catch our breath and then
Speaker 1: come back and catch Dallas's pick. Where you're listening to
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Speaker 1: here with the two thousand and sixteen NFL Draft. Bryan
Speaker 1: broad Us, David Hellman, Dame Brugler, Kient Garrison carrying you
Speaker 1: through here. We're into the Pitt story. Picks. Cowboys, remember,
Speaker 1: do not have a seventh round pick unless they jump
Speaker 1: back into this draft. And uh, like I say, we're
Speaker 1: in the compet story. So they cannot trade in these picks.
Speaker 1: If they want a seventh round pick, they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to give it next year's pick for that. So news
Speaker 1: coming out of Cleveland, what would that be there? Dave
Speaker 1: Helman Nate Ulrich of Ohio dot Com is reporting the
Speaker 1: Browns have traded for Dolphins corner Jamar Taylor. Hmm, don't
Speaker 1: have terms, but he swapped seventh front there you go. Interesting, Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, okay, it looks like that guys that we
Speaker 1: have Ah Anthony Brown, the newest member of the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys from Purdue Anthony. It's Brian, Dane and Dave. Welcome
Speaker 1: to UH, to our program. Congratulations on being selected today.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. It's gotta be very exciting for you, though,
Speaker 1: to to get that call. You're sitting there waiting throughout
Speaker 1: the the a couple of days in the draft. You know,
Speaker 1: I know, on on myself and Dane's draft board, we
Speaker 1: had you very high as a as a third round player,
Speaker 1: and you know here we are. We get into the
Speaker 1: sixth round. But a little bit of trying time. But
Speaker 1: you have to be very relieved though that you got
Speaker 1: picked and got picked by a team that surely can
Speaker 1: use cornerback help, especially the talent that you have. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is all over teen get a chance to come
Speaker 1: in and compete, ready to meet on and ready to
Speaker 1: come alert, help us get a Houston Anthony. UH, David here,
Speaker 1: congratulations man Um, pumped for you. But just um, you know,
Speaker 1: we we obviously cover the draft, that's our job. It's
Speaker 1: a long process. We've been at it, UH, And I'm
Speaker 1: just curious, I guess, um, what what relationship if any,
Speaker 1: did you have with with this coaching staff, with this
Speaker 1: organization during the draft process, um at all and the
Speaker 1: lead up to this. I mean, some guys are really
Speaker 1: familiar with the team to drafts him, some not so much.
Speaker 1: And where do you fall on that scale? I talked
Speaker 1: to Coach Baker a couple of times before the draft,
Speaker 1: you know, to come by. I talked to him and
Speaker 1: I taught to coach coach here had to come by. Um,
Speaker 1: that was about it. I didn't I didn't have any
Speaker 1: visits anything. Anthony. You know, we know you can play corner,
Speaker 1: but about your special teams. I talked to one of
Speaker 1: your assistant coaches who's just said, you know, we can't
Speaker 1: block him on field goal tries? Is that a part
Speaker 1: of your game you take a lot of pride in. Yes,
Speaker 1: he back after due out on every extra point every field. Well, Anthony, listen,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Congratulations to you on your selection.
Speaker 1: We look forward to seeing you here when you get
Speaker 1: to Dallas and start to work in and follow your
Speaker 1: career here with the Cowboys. We appreciate your time, man, absolutely, congrats.
Speaker 1: All right, that was Anthony Brown. We might have lost
Speaker 1: him there on his uh not a lost us, but
Speaker 1: thanks for him taking some times Okay, fascinating point by
Speaker 1: Dane right there. I mean, you know, if you're taking
Speaker 1: after the fifth or so round, you're probably gonna have
Speaker 1: to contribute on special teams, right Um that that's I mean,
Speaker 1: that's good to hear. You know how these guys feel
Speaker 1: about their special teamers h Kyle Wilbur and Jeff Heath
Speaker 1: have second contracts in Dallas primarily because of their special
Speaker 1: teams abilities. Um. So, to add a guy who can
Speaker 1: come in and compete at corner as well as as
Speaker 1: well as be good on special teams, that's big. And
Speaker 1: if you're looking at the war room camp him, you
Speaker 1: might see Rod Marinelli uh in the war room right
Speaker 1: now looking pretty you get pretty happy right now. He's
Speaker 1: got his hands on his hips and he just looks
Speaker 1: like he thinks he's the king of the world. Well,
Speaker 1: they got they were the picks in for the Lions.
Speaker 1: So the Lions, it's the Lions, forty nine ers and cowboys.
Speaker 1: So we're waiting to see what in fact, the what
Speaker 1: the uh what they are gonna do A linebacker here,
Speaker 1: I don't know. We we've kind of talked linebackers are
Speaker 1: possibly if it's defense. Give me the list of the
Speaker 1: defensive guys. You gotta get that Norfolk say, kid they
Speaker 1: looked at I mean, because that is that a possibility here,
Speaker 1: Dion King? Is that you know that someone they brought
Speaker 1: in as one of the thirty visits. Uh that? Who
Speaker 1: are the safeties? You like? Yeah? Can you? I mean
Speaker 1: they've already taken a quarter and we don't. We talked
Speaker 1: about cash quite a bit. How about you got pal
Speaker 1: on my board? Elston Frasier. How about Frasier? Uh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Cavan Fraser from Central Michigan. He's a he's a solid player.
Speaker 1: You'd like to see him at this point. We talk
Speaker 1: about him a little bit though, I mean, I mean
Speaker 1: if the safety guys, I mean, we know about the
Speaker 1: cash and pal, but we haven't talked about a guy
Speaker 1: like Frasier or even I had. Elston is a guy
Speaker 1: as Elston a combine snub and yeah, Covon Frasier player
Speaker 1: who got hurt. He hurt his right foot and so
Speaker 1: he wasn't able to work out at the combine. But
Speaker 1: as pro day worked out really well for a player
Speaker 1: that's six foot two hundred and twenty pounds, a four
Speaker 1: or five athlete over forty inch vertical six eight eight
Speaker 1: three cone. Uh, this is a player who he passes
Speaker 1: the eye test. He plays fast, but he does some
Speaker 1: of his best work on special teams coverages. And we
Speaker 1: just got done talking about that with Anthony Brown. He
Speaker 1: played for We got a long snapper coming off the board. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how about that? Jimmy Landis goes yeah, absolutely, But with
Speaker 1: the covon Frasier. He played for Central Michigan head coach
Speaker 1: John bon Amigo. Yeah, John and bonamego. Yeah. He was
Speaker 1: a special team's coach in the NFL for what sixteen years.
Speaker 1: He certainly understands special teams and how important that is. Um.
Speaker 1: But I think he you know, over one hundred he
Speaker 1: had on hundred and eight tackles as a senior at
Speaker 1: Central Michigan. Uh. You know, he'll come up and hit you,
Speaker 1: but he also has athleticism to play in coverage. So
Speaker 1: I think he should be at the top of the
Speaker 1: safety list if that's what they're considering. Yeah, and uh,
Speaker 1: and that's it. I think that we have to look
Speaker 1: at because they added the corner. You know, we we
Speaker 1: talked about, Okay, what are they gonna do at safety?
Speaker 1: You know, linebacker was something you brought up, but I
Speaker 1: think that I think that we you're the cowboy. It's
Speaker 1: a here. I mean, it's a it's a defensive pick, right,
Speaker 1: we know that, right? Well, oh, hey, Scott Nahan just
Speaker 1: came in. I think they're talking. They got sixteen and seventeen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got, they got, they got, They're gonna go back
Speaker 1: to back here. So let's see what it. I mean.
Speaker 1: I like the idea of another DV to be totally
Speaker 1: honest with you. Yeah, just by virtue of what they
Speaker 1: have and what's available, I think that's probably the best
Speaker 1: value on the board here. Yeah, if you're looking at here,
Speaker 1: I gotta pull it up real quick. Sorry, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: you got Powell, you got Cash. Yeah. I don't know
Speaker 1: if they do it bas what we're learning today, but
Speaker 1: Mills is still there at some as always, at some point,
Speaker 1: the the risk becomes worth the reward. When you're talking
Speaker 1: about pick number two twelve. Yeah, I love Cash, I
Speaker 1: really do. But there's something and Dane, I think you
Speaker 1: hit it on the head. My love for him is
Speaker 1: just probably two schemes specific, you know, And I'm interested
Speaker 1: in the description you gave me. Just makes me think
Speaker 1: it's another very church with with with Frasier, not with cash,
Speaker 1: with cash. He I mean, he's he's he's the best
Speaker 1: tackling guy in the draft. I mean as far as
Speaker 1: the say in my opinion of those says in terms
Speaker 1: of being a run defender. Yeah, yeah, Barry Church is
Speaker 1: a pretty damn good tackler. He's a good run defender. Yeah,
Speaker 1: good box safety, yeah exactly. I mean, I just looking back, Okay,
Speaker 1: if I can't take cash the next guy like Powell
Speaker 1: was on my list about him, I let me tell
Speaker 1: you what I thought about Powell. I go the other
Speaker 1: way here. I wasn't totally shot in the rear about
Speaker 1: him as well. I think I think this is probably
Speaker 1: going to be uh, who knows. I mean, I'm just
Speaker 1: any love for DeAndre Elliott. I don't know, really read
Speaker 1: your pal real quick. I thought he's a I thought
Speaker 1: this guy as a will fit Ductor's head at time,
Speaker 1: struggles with some of the change of direction, can play
Speaker 1: the ball down the field, saw some range with this guy,
Speaker 1: doesn't play with much quickness. I just wasn't very excited
Speaker 1: to watch him at Ohio State. Okay, pal, that's pal,
Speaker 1: let me talk about what I saw with U with
Speaker 1: Let me see here with with Frasier with pet Cattler, Kelvin,
Speaker 1: Kelvin Taylor off the board. Oh, Kelvin Taylor goes Okay,
Speaker 1: so san Fran takes Kelvin tailor. Let me tell you
Speaker 1: what I thought about let me talk. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: about Frasier here a little bit. Um. I thought this
Speaker 1: guy did find the ball wrap up tackler puts himself
Speaker 1: in position aggressive, he'll come forward, physical player, can handle
Speaker 1: the tight ends underneath. But I don't want to see
Speaker 1: the ball going over the top of his head though
Speaker 1: that was something it was gonna be a problem. So
Speaker 1: maybe he's a guy that has to play a little
Speaker 1: bound need to keep the game in front him. But
Speaker 1: like how physical he plays, that would be uh Cavan
Speaker 1: Frazier from Central Misch if in fact that he is
Speaker 1: the guy that's going to be So you're right about
Speaker 1: Kelvin Taylor. H goes to two eleven. For those of them,
Speaker 1: I mean, I assume you're watching on TV, if you're
Speaker 1: listening to us, But yeah, Dallas is on the clock. Now, okay, Dallas,
Speaker 1: they've I mean they've made the pick in the war room. Yeah,
Speaker 1: TV's obviously behind at this time in the day. So yeah,
Speaker 1: here we go. Uh, TV is behind Dallas has made
Speaker 1: the pick. This could be Dallas's pick, the first one
Speaker 1: of three they have in this round. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: at pick two twelve. We've talked about a couple of
Speaker 1: different uh, a couple of different guys right there. Uh
Speaker 1: as far as the US maybe safety cornerbacks, that kind
Speaker 1: of uh, that kind of that kind of look. So
Speaker 1: let's see who in fact they do take with this pick.
Speaker 1: We've we've kind of gone through all kinds of of
Speaker 1: names of defensive players. It's I'm I mean, every pick
Speaker 1: they make is interesting, but I mom and I'm more
Speaker 1: interested to see what they do with the back to
Speaker 1: backs elections to close this thing out, because they're gonna
Speaker 1: be right back on the clock. Yeah, and they're gonna
Speaker 1: I mean they can just do take whatever order they want.
Speaker 1: So and I mean, if if this is a dB,
Speaker 1: it opens you up. I mean you could still get
Speaker 1: your interior offensive lineman. You could still take a stab
Speaker 1: at a receiver. Lawler's still there, is he not? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He is? This is where and this is where I
Speaker 1: think that if we see Derek Dooley making appearance in
Speaker 1: this room, which he has not. He has not made
Speaker 1: Now maybe he is working like Cak on the phones.
Speaker 1: These coaches they get in these rooms and they and
Speaker 1: they realize that they might not get a guy now.
Speaker 1: But the problem is they're a whole round ahead right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so if they're recruiting kids. Funny thing there, Derek Dooley
Speaker 1: is probably great at that. He had to recruit kids
Speaker 1: to Tennessee when he coached there, right, Uh, and I
Speaker 1: mean it's worked for him before. Um, who is the
Speaker 1: kid that he got a couple of years ago. Well,
Speaker 1: they overpaid the kid from US sermer. But now the
Speaker 1: kid the kid from Louisiana Tech who he tried to
Speaker 1: recruit to Uh or no, missoo, I'm sorry, the missoo
Speaker 1: receiver from Louisiana. He he did the team? Yeah, you
Speaker 1: make you look at me and like I had these
Speaker 1: answers on my head. Did he make the team? No,
Speaker 1: he didn't make the team, but it was still a
Speaker 1: cool story. Last year it's Washington. Yes, thank you, Dame
Speaker 1: Damien Washington, Washington, thank you, thank god. Ken. I mean, David,
Speaker 1: why can't you just mind? I can't can't put it together? Oh,
Speaker 1: there we go, There we go. All right, there's the pick, Frazier.
Speaker 1: I knew we'd eventually get to the guy we named
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys that are on a board. I
Speaker 1: got him on a I read you the player. I
Speaker 1: had him on the fifth round as a safety, him
Speaker 1: pal Elston. Uh. Cash was my guy too. So if
Speaker 1: if they whipped safety all right, in fact went for uh,
Speaker 1: we have er. We have officially entered into the territory
Speaker 1: where I'm going. Huh. So I can only imagine what
Speaker 1: the casual fan thinks. So you tell me, well, we
Speaker 1: read tell me what you think overall. I know you
Speaker 1: read it, but what do you I mean, Well, I
Speaker 1: have Cash, but I understand. I mean Cash is a
Speaker 1: down player. I get what they're doing. I mean I
Speaker 1: I saw a guy that was a great tackler. I
Speaker 1: saw a guy playing around on the line. I saw
Speaker 1: a guy that was playing in the slot. Now do
Speaker 1: you want to do it all the time? You know,
Speaker 1: probably not, But you know, a physical football player. He
Speaker 1: was one of my top fifty guys. I just I
Speaker 1: fell in love with a physical football player. I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna go somewhere. And I could be way wrong
Speaker 1: about him, but way right, But I just like a
Speaker 1: guy that's that's tough, and that's what I saw, Pal,
Speaker 1: I didn't see a tough guy, this frasier guy. I
Speaker 1: do see a tougher guy. I like how physical he is.
Speaker 1: I think you need to keep things in front of him.
Speaker 1: Things over the top, might be a little little strong.
Speaker 1: Fair is fair? I'm sorry, didn't go ahead. No, he
Speaker 1: does have some limitations and coverage, there's no question about that.
Speaker 1: He's more of a reliable run defender. That's more of
Speaker 1: the strength of his game. But I think what he
Speaker 1: can do on special teams. Just what's going to keep
Speaker 1: this player on the roster? Okay, well we're getting closed. Okay,
Speaker 1: as we go through the picks, Harry San Francisco's on
Speaker 1: the close ahead of Dallas. So let's see what happens
Speaker 1: with uh these picks. As we get closer at the
Speaker 1: forty forty Niners are picks in. So when the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers go in, that means the Cowboys will be
Speaker 1: in as well. Looks like he's talking to his guy. Okay,
Speaker 1: so if Jason Garrett is on the phone, we will
Speaker 1: see in fact what what transpires. Again, this might be
Speaker 1: a thing where they're thinking about guys like down the line, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, not having to fight for these particular guys
Speaker 1: in free agency. They might this is this is trying
Speaker 1: to clean up their board a little bit. And so
Speaker 1: we'll see in fact the forty nine ers selections in uh.
Speaker 1: And then and then the Cowboys. We we said, let's
Speaker 1: let's say this is six uh, this is six two.
Speaker 1: It is Excuna six two thirteen, and then we'd have
Speaker 1: New England excuse me, New England would be behind them.
Speaker 1: Seattle then would be on the clock, and then Dallas
Speaker 1: again at two sixteen. So let's see what transpires here
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys. Any ideas you want to throw some
Speaker 1: some guys at the Cowboys here anymore at two sixteen? Well,
Speaker 1: you know, he could talked about the Norfolk stake linebacker
Speaker 1: Dion King, a guy that showed a lot of interest
Speaker 1: in as a thirty visit. He could be in the
Speaker 1: mix here. What about a receiver? Yeah, do you know
Speaker 1: we want to go on offense and go with a
Speaker 1: Kenny law Lenahan on the phone right now? Yeah, well
Speaker 1: it's a it's an offensive player. Then for Will's handing
Speaker 1: it back. So looking at the top receivers on my board,
Speaker 1: Kenny Lawler, Sharon Peak, Yeah, uh, Devin could juice Roger Lewis.
Speaker 1: Um who else we got here? Berber just came off
Speaker 1: the board. Jalen Marshall from Ohio State. Yea, Daniel braverman
Speaker 1: Western Michigan. At that man, this thing, this whole thing
Speaker 1: with Waller just bothers the heck out of me. Kieris Garrett, Tulsa. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so a couple names there. What do you think about
Speaker 1: a tight end? Yeah, that's about about a tight end.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean that's uh. I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: just looking at me. I just I can't get over
Speaker 1: the whole Lawlord thing and they and and that. I
Speaker 1: think you know, did you said Garrett? Charis Garrett from Tulsa.
Speaker 1: He just going through my wide receivers, he said, could choose?
Speaker 1: You said? Uh, we talked about north A lot of
Speaker 1: different a lot of different things right there. So, um,
Speaker 1: who knows what directually say? Okay, the Patriots their selections
Speaker 1: in UH San Francisco. Okay, San Francisco went Aaron Burbridge
Speaker 1: from UH from Michigan State. He is off the board
Speaker 1: now for UH for the UH off the off the vote.
Speaker 1: He's gonna go to forty nine ers and now it's
Speaker 1: the Patriots. The Patriots selection is in, and let's see
Speaker 1: which way they go. Landon Roberts the linebacker from Houston
Speaker 1: and short, but he's not small, and he's a magnet
Speaker 1: the ball. Wherever that ball is, he's going to attack.
Speaker 1: And so he put together a strong senior season after
Speaker 1: a kind of riding the bench there for a little bit,
Speaker 1: stuck on the depth chart, he made the most of it.
Speaker 1: He had a terrific twenty fifteen season. Just FYI, I just,
Speaker 1: I mean, my math might be off because I'm terrible
Speaker 1: and I'm distracted. But Frasier was their first non Power
Speaker 1: five draftees since Nizacha in the seventh last year. So
Speaker 1: most of last year's draft and all and all of
Speaker 1: this year's draft until Frasier, and only three times since
Speaker 1: the twenty fourteen draft have they taken a non power
Speaker 1: five guy. That Ken Bishop from Northern Illinois, Marcus Lawrence
Speaker 1: from Boise, Nizacha, and uh and now Frasier. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: big time emphasis on the And Garrett loves, I mean,
Speaker 1: Garrett loves to talk about how he likes to see
Speaker 1: these guys go against the best of the best. Okay.
Speaker 1: So this yeah, this pick right here is now Seattle
Speaker 1: at two fifteen. They are right ahead of what Dallas
Speaker 1: is got going. Uh, and they will be Dallas back
Speaker 1: to back here on the clock at two sixteen and
Speaker 1: then two seventeen, so we will see in fact of
Speaker 1: what they do. Uh. It's it's turning in fast and furious.
Speaker 1: The war room is a buzz when you get back
Speaker 1: to back players like this and trying to make sure
Speaker 1: exactly how they line everything up and make sure that
Speaker 1: it goes in the right way so they don't have to,
Speaker 1: uh to mess with anything again. They're not gonna have
Speaker 1: a pick in the seventh round unless they try and
Speaker 1: jump back into this thing. Seahawks take Joey Hunt. Uh,
Speaker 1: the center from TCU that puts Dallas on the clock.
Speaker 1: Got Joe Loan Uh No, Steve Lonie, I'm sorry, okay,
Speaker 1: Joe Looney and Steve Okay, Well okay, there you go, Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: he this this could be the second Okay who your
Speaker 1: tight ends? This is your tight ends guy right here now?
Speaker 1: Well maybe Phoenie, how about okay, tell me what you
Speaker 1: think that Bailey. Were you at Baylor Pro Day Huh.
Speaker 1: I kind of heard some whispers here say what I
Speaker 1: think you're gonna say? Rico Gathers. Oh oh, I like
Speaker 1: that a lot. Okay, I've heard no, no, I've heard
Speaker 1: say McGowan, no, no, no, Rico Gathers. Tell me about
Speaker 1: I tell me about what you think of a little
Speaker 1: bit about Rico Gathers right here. He's a power forward
Speaker 1: from the Baylor basketball team, hasn't played football since he
Speaker 1: was fourteen years old. But uh yeah, talk about a
Speaker 1: guy that translates in terms of athleticism in size. Uh.
Speaker 1: I'd love to see him, uh get a chance because
Speaker 1: you're looking at him. If the raft Rico Gathers, you're
Speaker 1: gonna hear Nick Eatman screaming from you think so from here? Yeah? Yes,
Speaker 1: Well with with Loni on the phone, I'm a little
Speaker 1: I'm a little yeah thinking about that. Maybe because I
Speaker 1: do that, does that satisfy your receiver need too? I
Speaker 1: mean that's what That's the type of tight end he's
Speaker 1: gonna be right. Yeah, I'm not throwing that guy out
Speaker 1: there to block am I. He's pretty big though, six kid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you athletic though, yess. I'm saying, all right, we gotta
Speaker 1: figure out Dallas is Okay, we gotta figure out there. Okay,
Speaker 1: it picks in for the Cowboys. This is gonna be
Speaker 1: the first This is gonna be the first pick of
Speaker 1: of two at two sixteen. Uh, this is a compensatory pick.
Speaker 1: And then and then they're gonna have back to back.
Speaker 1: I could say we've seen we've seen offensive coaches on
Speaker 1: the phone. We saw Scott Lenahan on the phone earlier,
Speaker 1: and then we saw the tight ends coach on the phone.
Speaker 1: So if my guests, my guests, I think there canna
Speaker 1: go some position player. Uh, probably a skilled guy would go.
Speaker 1: Skill guy first, and then maybe maybe yeah, maybe this
Speaker 1: is a receiver. If if it is a tight end
Speaker 1: they're getting at the end, did they still get a receiver?
Speaker 1: Do you want both of those? I just I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm kind of thinking of all the possibility.
Speaker 1: I think it's you know, I don't think they would
Speaker 1: put him on the phone. Yeah, I don't think they
Speaker 1: would put him on the phone if if there was something,
Speaker 1: if something, if it was like an offensive lineman or
Speaker 1: anything like you say, I don't think it's a lineman,
Speaker 1: Which is kind of surprising to me because I definitely
Speaker 1: would have thought that they would, yeah, address that at
Speaker 1: some point. Okay, well here we go. They're gonna they're
Speaker 1: gonna run this one across the bottom of the screen.
Speaker 1: Force and tell us. So the Cowboys again, offensive coaches
Speaker 1: were on the phones. Uh Loney coach Loni was the
Speaker 1: last one on the phone. And let's see it. We're
Speaker 1: just like everybody else waiting at pick six two sixteen
Speaker 1: to get this one done and we will see. What'll
Speaker 1: tell you what the NFL network needs to Darius jack
Speaker 1: Darius Jackson. Darius Jackson's not expecting that. No, I was
Speaker 1: not either. I'm a fan. Talk about Garius Jackson. Then
Speaker 1: Dave Burglar Eastern Michigan was not a combined guy. You know,
Speaker 1: he kind of went under the radar this past season
Speaker 1: playing for a program that's not very good. But this
Speaker 1: past year when over a thousand yards rushing built well
Speaker 1: for the NFL game, six foot two hundred twenty pounds
Speaker 1: ran a four to three at his pro day. Um,
Speaker 1: interesting that you gonna go running back twice here? Yeah,
Speaker 1: what does that tell me? What? Like, what type of
Speaker 1: running back is this guy? Because I'm a spit of
Speaker 1: hot take he's between the tackles. You know, power guy.
Speaker 1: I mean that's he's not because he's he's you know,
Speaker 1: six foot two hundred twenty pounds. Um. You know, he
Speaker 1: can be a pass catcher. He had combined for forty
Speaker 1: one catches last two years. He just has an NFL body,
Speaker 1: quick feet, body control and make sharp cuts again, reliable
Speaker 1: pass catcher. I think he has, you know, the makeup
Speaker 1: that you want. So he's, you know, the right kind
Speaker 1: of guy for this team. Okay, the Cowboys second pick
Speaker 1: in this pitstory round is in. It's two six Excube
Speaker 1: two seventeen. And we talked about with Lone Alfa, this
Speaker 1: is gonna be it, this is gonna be a tied end,
Speaker 1: and let's see if it's if Let's see if we
Speaker 1: got the right tied end with Rico Gathers, would be
Speaker 1: so cool. There is Yeah, yeah, good call, Brian. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I kind of hurt some whispers, maybe the that they
Speaker 1: went down there and did some work with them. So
Speaker 1: taking a player with some traits there. Dan Bruglen again
Speaker 1: a basketball player who he hasn't played football since he
Speaker 1: was fourteen years old, so this a little bit of
Speaker 1: a little bit of a conversion for him. But he
Speaker 1: has a projectable body tap at six seven, two hundred
Speaker 1: seventy one pounds. Uh, you know he's a four seven athlete.
Speaker 1: He can just look at the body control and you
Speaker 1: know he's has a sculpted frame. A lot of things
Speaker 1: that say he'll translate well, but you know, how does
Speaker 1: he how is he going to you know, run routes,
Speaker 1: how is he going to do catching the football. There's
Speaker 1: just so many details at the position that he's very
Speaker 1: raw at and so it's going to take some time.
Speaker 1: But they're showing basketball. He is a sculpted looking athlete though.
Speaker 1: Day You're absolutely right about that, Dave. Dave, did you
Speaker 1: get to see him? It was basketball season going on
Speaker 1: and he couldn't do it. Art Brile's fielded questions about
Speaker 1: him coming out for the team in the fall, right
Speaker 1: because nobody thought he would actually go pro. I did
Speaker 1: not see him at Baylor prode out. There were plenty
Speaker 1: of questions about him playing for Baylor. Everybody in Waco
Speaker 1: was really excited about the possibility of him playing for them.
Speaker 1: Um at the time, I don't think anybody knew for
Speaker 1: sure if you would come out and on I love
Speaker 1: this pick again, like why why not? Why why not?
Speaker 1: Maybe you find something and if you don't, half these guys,
Speaker 1: I'll make the team anyway. Yeah, the Cowboys back to back. Uh,
Speaker 1: they go Darius Jackson, who Dan gave you a little
Speaker 1: bit of a thumbnail on. Uh. He is a running
Speaker 1: back from Eastern Michigan. And then and then and then
Speaker 1: they backed that pick up with the right behind it
Speaker 1: to six two seventeen. Rico gathers again. You're looking for traits,
Speaker 1: You're looking for guys that, uh, you know, might to
Speaker 1: translate into to the game new see. I understand these
Speaker 1: types of picks. I understand. I understand when you're at
Speaker 1: six and you're just looking for something to hit on,
Speaker 1: you know, you you might find a guy here. This
Speaker 1: might be this. This is one of those things that
Speaker 1: you know this this this works in my mind. This
Speaker 1: is it said you give a second round guy for
Speaker 1: we gonna pick for a guy that, yeah, sure he
Speaker 1: might be a Pro Bowl player one day. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: he might not play. This guy might not play, but
Speaker 1: at least you know you can you can maybe work
Speaker 1: with him and get him to play. I'm gonna hop
Speaker 1: back because Derek asked me to on Twitter. Uh, I
Speaker 1: meant I had a hot running back take. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it kind of plays along with that. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: a sixth round pick. There's no there's no guarantee that
Speaker 1: Jackson makes this team, right, But at the same time,
Speaker 1: I don't I'm obviously Ezekul Elliotts spot on. This team
Speaker 1: is secure, right, I'd say so. I don't think that
Speaker 1: they're that concerned if they have to part ways with
Speaker 1: any of these other guys, though, well, I think again,
Speaker 1: it's we've talked about this a bunch. The two year
Speaker 1: the bridge player I mean is Darren McFadden. I don't
Speaker 1: think that you can say, I don't think you can
Speaker 1: sit here on April Day first or whatever it does
Speaker 1: and say that Darren McFadden is safe, And honestly I
Speaker 1: think that I think that actually Alfred Morris is more
Speaker 1: safe because of the two year deal. Trying to get
Speaker 1: to the next deal. Is Lance Dunbar's job safe. I
Speaker 1: mean he might have to start the season on Pop anyway.
Speaker 1: That kind of changes things, right, That's not a deal
Speaker 1: that you just absolutely can't afford to say like, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: hey we washed it. I mean, let me tell you
Speaker 1: this so real quick. We had to be interested to
Speaker 1: see how that is, particularly if this kid's any good.
Speaker 1: Kevin Seymour, the quarterback from USC went to the Buffalo
Speaker 1: Bills and Will Parks and then Will Parks goes right
Speaker 1: behind him to the Denver Broncos. On that. So back
Speaker 1: to the running back Darius Jackson, and very little was
Speaker 1: expected of him this year. Uh. You know, he had
Speaker 1: a total of five hundred and eight rushing yards to
Speaker 1: his name entering the two fifteen season, but he won
Speaker 1: the starting job, started all twelve games, and he set
Speaker 1: a new school record for touchdowns of sixteen, had over
Speaker 1: a thousand yards of rushing. It really had that breakout year,
Speaker 1: earned an invite to the NFLPA Collegiate Bowl, and really
Speaker 1: put together a draftable resume. And so I think when
Speaker 1: you look at the makeup, the measurables, the traits, it's
Speaker 1: all there for him to you know, be a quality
Speaker 1: NFL running back. His run instincts, his vision, those kind
Speaker 1: of run hot and cold. I think he needs to
Speaker 1: develop those a little more. Um you know, if he's
Speaker 1: going to can he play some special teams. So I
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of ability here and you know,
Speaker 1: a little surprising to see him come off the board
Speaker 1: ahead of some of these other running backs, you know,
Speaker 1: guys like Daniel Lasco, even a Keith Marshall. But Carson
Speaker 1: from A and M was right. Yeah, but nonetheless, I
Speaker 1: think he's a very good player. Who Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: you could make this roster because he's an ascending type
Speaker 1: of player. Okay, well we are now officially let's see,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong about that. No, we're not quite yet.
Speaker 1: We still have some uh sorry, some compensior. We were
Speaker 1: talking to this conversation, some very good conversation about running backs.
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh still got they got a pick. Let's see, they
Speaker 1: took Travis Feeny, linebacker from Washington, and then New England
Speaker 1: at New England has not taken New England's right behind
Speaker 1: them at pick two twenty one. But uh, I'm interested,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm very interested though in this this Rico
Speaker 1: gathers thing. I'm very interested. Well, you know, for the
Speaker 1: longest time we talked about the physical marvel, the guy
Speaker 1: that you know walked off the bus first from Baylor
Speaker 1: being Sean Oakman. Yeah, but this is a guy who
Speaker 1: thought about try going out for the football team with
Speaker 1: Art Bryle's next year decided against it. He has a family,
Speaker 1: he has a young child. He wanted to come out
Speaker 1: now and you know, try to give this NFL think
Speaker 1: a chance. And here he is getting drafted in the
Speaker 1: sixth round. And he's got a chance. Because if you're
Speaker 1: drafting a guy like this who hasn't played football and
Speaker 1: uh you know eight years, you understand her. He needs work, right,
Speaker 1: and so you're gonna be patient with him. Absolutely. Okay.
Speaker 1: Well we're joined here by Caban Frazier from uh fit's
Speaker 1: back safety from Tramission. Welcome to the Dallas Cowboys. Hey
Speaker 1: how you doing? Hey, hey do I'm happy to be
Speaker 1: a Cowboy? Thank you? It's You're with with with Brian
Speaker 1: and Dane and Dave from a Dallas Cowboys dot com.
Speaker 1: We've been covering this draft from pick one to uh
Speaker 1: actually we're trying to get to pick two fifty three,
Speaker 1: but here you are selected for the Dallas Cowboys at
Speaker 1: pick two twelve. Talk about the journey to this point
Speaker 1: for you, and again, how excited you are to be
Speaker 1: a member of the Dallas Cowboys. Yes, sir, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: the journey was just crazy. Um. You know, my junior year,
Speaker 1: I went from from being like a partial backup parts
Speaker 1: of starter and then my senior year that's when I
Speaker 1: have my breakout year, and that's that's when I actually
Speaker 1: got a full time starting spot. So and I was
Speaker 1: basing my breakout year. And then after you know, after
Speaker 1: the season, that's that's when I went into combine mode
Speaker 1: and start training. I went down to Florida, UM and
Speaker 1: start training for the combine and everything like that in
Speaker 1: Pro Day and then it was kind of stressful because
Speaker 1: because like at that moment, I had to switch agents
Speaker 1: and stuff too, so it was like, oh, that was
Speaker 1: all stressful. And then I went to combine figured out
Speaker 1: UM that is that I had a stretch faction in
Speaker 1: my foot, so they wouldn't even let me work out
Speaker 1: of the combine. So that was extra stress that was
Speaker 1: just on me around that time that I really didn't need.
Speaker 1: But but you know, you know, I just believed, and
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a strong believer, and everything happened for
Speaker 1: a reason. So and then after that, you know, I
Speaker 1: had to get a secondar teams from my foot and
Speaker 1: you know, I'm spared all, I'm all clear now. So
Speaker 1: I did Pro Day and I did really good at
Speaker 1: Pro Day. That's when I actually got in touch with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys College with a couple of cowboys goes and
Speaker 1: and man, I'm just so grateful for this opportun tooan
Speaker 1: to be a cowboy. And man, I can't wait to
Speaker 1: get down there. It came on. You touted really well
Speaker 1: the pro day with fury and the jumps. Uh, how
Speaker 1: do you feel about you know, your your foot. Is
Speaker 1: any any worries about that moving forward? Or do you
Speaker 1: feel one hundred percent? Oh? Oh no, there's no worries
Speaker 1: at all. Um, I feel one hundred percent even going
Speaker 1: into the combine. I never had pain, So I was
Speaker 1: you know, I was, I was training all the way.
Speaker 1: You know, I was praying for the combine. Uh, I
Speaker 1: had I was traying about one hundred percent for the combine.
Speaker 1: So I never had pain. But and then recently, you know,
Speaker 1: I kept going back for like rechecks for my doctors
Speaker 1: back here, and then I went to to the official
Speaker 1: medical recheck for the combine and and they in overall
Speaker 1: they just told me that it's just scarred, like like
Speaker 1: it's scarred from a preview injury. Right, But but they
Speaker 1: said it's held up one hundred percent. So I don't
Speaker 1: have no worries about that at all? Whatso other congratulations.
Speaker 1: First of all, I'm sure you know this. Going going
Speaker 1: through the draft process, people love to to make player comparisons.
Speaker 1: The one I actually right on you was was Bury Church,
Speaker 1: who has been a tackle machine for about three years
Speaker 1: down here in Dallas. Um. I just hoping you could
Speaker 1: kind of share with us, uh the strength of your
Speaker 1: game and what Cowboys fans can hope to see from
Speaker 1: you when when you get onto a field here. Yes,
Speaker 1: sir man, I've always been saying a very church, you know,
Speaker 1: bringing card um by Byron Jones, you know, all the
Speaker 1: secondary over over in Dallas. So so I'm really happy
Speaker 1: and really excited it's to come in and and be
Speaker 1: uh playing with them and learning and learning from them.
Speaker 1: Is because I know they're like bet now, So I'm
Speaker 1: really excited to get under one of their wings and
Speaker 1: really uh take in all the input that they give me.
Speaker 1: Um um. As far as my strength, um, I would
Speaker 1: definitely say my passion for the game's definitely one of
Speaker 1: my strength. I definitely can say you can see that
Speaker 1: on the field when I play. Uh you can you
Speaker 1: can see that because uh I lift everybody else just
Speaker 1: from like one bighead or or it's just in leadership wise. Um.
Speaker 1: And another strength that I would say is my tackle ability. Um,
Speaker 1: this year I was able to have like one hundred
Speaker 1: and hay tackles, not too many mistackles. So so I
Speaker 1: definitely say my tackling ability and as far and as
Speaker 1: well with that, you know, my versatility. Uh. My first
Speaker 1: two years of college I actually played strong safety, and
Speaker 1: in my last two years I played prete safety. Um, um,
Speaker 1: I'm assuming they're gonna put me a strong safety and
Speaker 1: in the NFL. But but um, you know I can
Speaker 1: do whatever. And also I was a starter on pun return,
Speaker 1: kick kickoff and kick return all through my years. So
Speaker 1: so so uh, my versatility is definitely a strength of
Speaker 1: mind that I have. Okay, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: taking time. Absolutely, but we really appreciate man. You're just
Speaker 1: a super bright guy, a fierce hitter. We we love
Speaker 1: to watch you play. Looking forward to having you here
Speaker 1: in Dallas and say we'll see you in a few days.
Speaker 1: I've seen a few days and uh, and and look
Speaker 1: forward to meeting your face and face you take care
Speaker 1: and enjoy this day. Okay, Yes, sir, I'm looking forward
Speaker 1: to coming down to Dallas and you know, giving him
Speaker 1: a hole and being a cowboy. There you go, thank
Speaker 1: you so much. Okay, he came on Frasier the safety
Speaker 1: from UH from Central Michigan. He you know, he's talking
Speaker 1: about it. He does, He'll he'll hit you. He's not afraid.
Speaker 1: Hey se him as a strong safety. That's kind of
Speaker 1: what they were thought talking about right there. I'm not
Speaker 1: literally going to stand up on the table. But enough
Speaker 1: of the enough of the buried church slander. If this
Speaker 1: guy is another buried church, there's nothing wrong with that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's not Ed Reid. He's not a pick machine what
Speaker 1: he's I know right not at Reid. He's not he's
Speaker 1: not gonna get eight picks. And he's not amazing in coverage.
Speaker 1: But there is a role for a good box safety
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Dang it, you can get just listen
Speaker 1: to him talk. I mean you could sell. He's he's
Speaker 1: all in. I mean, he's gonna put everything he has
Speaker 1: to be the best that he can be and we'll
Speaker 1: see what that ends up being. If that, can he
Speaker 1: start you know, can he push for starting reps? Can
Speaker 1: he be a guy maybe down the road that you
Speaker 1: can rely on as as the replacement to a buried church.
Speaker 1: We'll have to see how it plays out, but in
Speaker 1: the sixth round, I really like the value. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: here we go. We're into the seventh round. Now Dallas
Speaker 1: does not have a pick. Maybe he could have take
Speaker 1: the halls again, maybe some tweets. I'm gonna leave y'all
Speaker 1: to it. I figured they've probably got things that I
Speaker 1: can probably do. They get a lot of picks and
Speaker 1: we will. Um, but I hope y'all get to talk
Speaker 1: to Rico Gathers. That sounds really exciting. Yeah. Um, I'll
Speaker 1: probably turn this on, tell Nick to come down here
Speaker 1: and talk about Ricco. That's actually a great idea. Great,
Speaker 1: I will do that. Yeah, we'll probably get him on
Speaker 1: the phone too. It's been a fantastic gentleman, happy draft.
Speaker 1: I'll talk to you all soon. Okay, there goes David
Speaker 1: and he's just gonna throw equipment on the ground. Nobody
Speaker 1: really cares much about the equipment here today. Sorry, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go. Uh. David Hellman never makes an ex
Speaker 1: quiet exit. It's always very ungraceful. Okay. We're into the
Speaker 1: seventh round. The Tennessee Titans at pick two twenty two
Speaker 1: takes Eron take Aaron Wallace, linebacker from UCLA. The Cleveland
Speaker 1: Browns didn't take Brandon Doherty, all right, so Dowdy I
Speaker 1: miss his name up, I'm sorry Brown. Brandon Dowdy, quarter
Speaker 1: quarterback off the board. Yeah, the quarterback from Western Kentucky.
Speaker 1: He goes to Uh that would be Miami would take him.
Speaker 1: I had that pick going to at Cleveland. I camp
Speaker 1: swap seventh round for Jamar Taylor. There you go, that's
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. Okay, So this is uh Dowdy,
Speaker 1: He's the pick to the Dolphins at two twenty three.
Speaker 1: San Diego then turns around and takes Donovan Clark, a
Speaker 1: guard from Michigan State. I'm looking at here's the h
Speaker 1: this is a seattle from Dallas to New England. Uh.
Speaker 1: Devin Lucien, the wide receiver from Arizona to UCLA transferred. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, player that tested really well. He kind of
Speaker 1: went under the radar a little bit. I didn't see
Speaker 1: a draftable player. But you know here in the seventh
Speaker 1: I mean, there's better wide receivers on the board. Right.
Speaker 1: You can't convince me that Kenny Lawler is not a
Speaker 1: better player. That's just but something going on there about Yeah,
Speaker 1: New England preferred. Uh you know that this player and
Speaker 1: you know it's interesting. But Jonathan Woodard another defensive end
Speaker 1: off the board now of Jacksonville right uh from Central Arkansas,
Speaker 1: Central Arkansas exactly right. So then that means my AMMI
Speaker 1: is on the clock, I believe here at or maybe
Speaker 1: Denver's on the clock. I'm losing track of my picks
Speaker 1: here right now, but uh, Denver would be on the
Speaker 1: clock here at pick uh two twenty seven. Can't you said?
Speaker 1: We got some callers lineups. Let's go do those. Let's
Speaker 1: go to Roscoe in Midland. Roscoe, what's up? Hey? If
Speaker 1: you could uh pull out your Christal ball for me,
Speaker 1: please and tell me what their thoughts are on this
Speaker 1: running back that they just drafted someone out the door
Speaker 1: or is this guy just a can't body to help
Speaker 1: with the Okay, thank you for the car, Roscoe. I
Speaker 1: think they're taking a chance on these traits. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know a guy again, you know he's a one year wonder.
Speaker 1: He emerged as a senior, had a solid year over
Speaker 1: a thousand yards a new school record sixteen touchdowns. He
Speaker 1: tested off the charts at four or three at at
Speaker 1: six foot two hundred and twenty pounds. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: and we'll see, if you know, how can he contribute
Speaker 1: on special teams? You know, can he carve out a
Speaker 1: role on this roster. It's going to be an uphill
Speaker 1: climb for him to make the final roster. But you know,
Speaker 1: when you have these type of traits, you can't rule
Speaker 1: it out. Could he supplant Darren McFadden in the backfield?
Speaker 1: You can't rule anything out at this point. What do
Speaker 1: you think, Briany, do you think, yeah, he could possibly
Speaker 1: bump one of these other running backs off the depth chart.
Speaker 1: That's that's the thing that I that's the thing that
Speaker 1: I don't know. Again, it's in the always as a scout,
Speaker 1: was always taught um that if you in the six
Speaker 1: seventh rounds, you're looking for trades and you talked about
Speaker 1: one year, wonder a little bit though, you know, they
Speaker 1: evaluate obviously it's the speed. If anything. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: let's let's be honest. There's a hurt running back in Dunbar.
Speaker 1: There's a there's a guy with age a little bit
Speaker 1: of age and McFadden that they drafted Zeke to do
Speaker 1: what he's gonna do. Zeke's gonna be your starter one day,
Speaker 1: but you're gonna have to find a way. They ran
Speaker 1: a lot of running backs through here last year and
Speaker 1: couldn't find the right guy. So they draft Zeke thinking
Speaker 1: Zeke's a guy. But they're not married to McFadden. They're
Speaker 1: not gonna be married to Alfred Morris at some point
Speaker 1: in time too, So maybe you do. Maybe you hit
Speaker 1: in the sixth round. You hit a guy that if
Speaker 1: he doesn't make the roster, okay, we keep him around.
Speaker 1: They've they've kept guys around far less players on the
Speaker 1: practice squad to do to do jobs. So well, let's
Speaker 1: see what they what they have right there? Okay, Ken,
Speaker 1: what do you got? Chandler in Arizona? Chandler Arizona. That's
Speaker 1: always actually Oklahoma. Oh it's Chandler in Oklahoma. So okay,
Speaker 1: Chandler's what you got? Yeah, I'd just like to know
Speaker 1: what you guys would grade this draft, and then also
Speaker 1: kind of explain a little bit how the priority free
Speaker 1: agency works. Um, how do they convince these guys to
Speaker 1: come to Dallas over other places? Is it just a
Speaker 1: depth chart thing or is it offering them more money
Speaker 1: or just kind of explain how that process works. Hang up,
Speaker 1: just listen, Thank you, Thank you. I never graded draft.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. I had a scout one time.
Speaker 1: Tell me on my way out of Philadelphia that I
Speaker 1: had the worst draft in the history of the National
Speaker 1: Football League. Two days after I had the draft, and
Speaker 1: then two years three years later, four of the eight
Speaker 1: picks made the Pro Bowl. That guy told me I
Speaker 1: had the worst draft in the history of National Football League.
Speaker 1: And that was a scout. So again, I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to skirtch your question. There's some picks that I really
Speaker 1: really like. I like that that that Prescott pick. I
Speaker 1: understand about the Janleen Smith. I don't particularly like the
Speaker 1: pick because I think they needed defensive help now. But
Speaker 1: if he turns out to be a Pro Bowl All
Speaker 1: Pro player comes in here plays mic linebackers, great, I'll
Speaker 1: eat my words on that. But I mean, I again,
Speaker 1: I have a little bit of an issue taking that
Speaker 1: Highway pick out. There's some people said, oh, they were
Speaker 1: gonna use the second round pick. There's people in the
Speaker 1: draft I think this team needed some defensive help. Did
Speaker 1: they take a couple of guys around early that I
Speaker 1: might have, you know, with MALIEK. Collins. Tapper, you know,
Speaker 1: Big Kat sat here right here and said, well, Tapper,
Speaker 1: you know this is what we think about it. You
Speaker 1: watch him play at Oklahoma. He's not the same looking
Speaker 1: guy that they probably think he's gonna be. But again,
Speaker 1: you know some guys, I you know, the whole thing
Speaker 1: with the running back. I can understand with that Rico Gathers,
Speaker 1: I understand that. Right there's too You're taking a chance
Speaker 1: on some guys, right there? Is it one of those
Speaker 1: drafts where went bang bang bang bang, you know, took
Speaker 1: every pick, Like to me, Jacksonville, Jacksonville has a great
Speaker 1: draft on paper. But if Jacksonville goes out him it's
Speaker 1: five and eleven next year and gets their coach fired,
Speaker 1: what good's a great draft? We've seen great drafts and
Speaker 1: sit in Saint Louis before. Well, not saying this now
Speaker 1: the rams La rams and what is that guy Jeff Fisher?
Speaker 1: You know it got him. You know it's he's seven
Speaker 1: and nine to eight and native here. So you know,
Speaker 1: give this draft some time on the grade wise, if
Speaker 1: it bus, it bus, the GM's not going anywhere. And
Speaker 1: everybody's probably saying, well, that's probably the problem. But the
Speaker 1: GM did win executive the year two years ago, you know,
Speaker 1: for a twelve and fourth season. Let's see how in
Speaker 1: fact this thing all plays out. And to the colors
Speaker 1: other question about the free agents and how that works.
Speaker 1: And that's what a lot of scouts are doing right now,
Speaker 1: is they're on the phone with these coaches exactly recruiting
Speaker 1: these guys, I mean, promising everything from you know, a
Speaker 1: spot on the depth chart to their firstborn child. Whatever
Speaker 1: it takes. You know, they're going to try and convince,
Speaker 1: uh and convince these guys. You know, put your mom
Speaker 1: on the phone, We'll talk to her. Yeah, we'll commit
Speaker 1: your mom, this is the right place to come. Whatever
Speaker 1: it takes. You know that that's what it's going to
Speaker 1: that they're going to do. Um. And it's a situation
Speaker 1: where these guys are still hoping to be drafted here
Speaker 1: in the seventh round, absolutely, but they're getting these calls
Speaker 1: where they're being recruited to be a free agent. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you this, though, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: getting picked in the seventh round might not be a
Speaker 1: good thing if you if you're a guy, if you're
Speaker 1: for example, if you're a lawlor right now, getting picked
Speaker 1: in the seventh round. Does you know good psychologically you
Speaker 1: were drafted. But he could sit there and say, you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna sit there and pick what team
Speaker 1: I want to go to exactly. He could look at
Speaker 1: the other team's depth chart and say, you know what,
Speaker 1: Garrett's the same way the kid from Tulsa. You know,
Speaker 1: if someone thinks enough of him, it could be like,
Speaker 1: don't get drafted, you know, don't get drafted the seventh round.
Speaker 1: Be able to pick what you know? You could look
Speaker 1: at another team's depth chart. The money can be involved,
Speaker 1: money involved, highest bidder. Go to a place where you
Speaker 1: got a shot to make this team. Don't go to
Speaker 1: somewhere where they're taking it just to be a guy,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden now you're having to fight
Speaker 1: to be on the team. Do you think there's anything
Speaker 1: to Some people will argue that with well, if they
Speaker 1: if they draft you, there's more invested. You know, it's
Speaker 1: it's easier to cut a priority free agent where it
Speaker 1: is than it is to cut a seventh rounder because
Speaker 1: they invested a draft picking. Do you think there's I've
Speaker 1: seen the cut third rounders before those two. You know
Speaker 1: you're not wrong. So if you're good enough to make
Speaker 1: a team, you're good enough to make a team. Okay, Ken,
Speaker 1: who do we got Anthony and Minnesota? Anthony? Go ahead, Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: first and forth. I want to say a great job
Speaker 1: again this year with the draft Coverridge, excellent show. Appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. Since we've made our last pick here
Speaker 1: and I feel pretty comfortable to selections, especially today, I
Speaker 1: thought Grabvin Prescott was big for US. Um what position
Speaker 1: group or there's they're a handful of players that you see,
Speaker 1: Um the Cowboys looking at as far as priority free agents,
Speaker 1: go moving forward. Thank you very much to call. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is the idea, this is how it works. It
Speaker 1: worked with Tony Romo. Explain how it is. Tony Romo
Speaker 1: had a grade on our board as a fifth round grade.
Speaker 1: Did not draft Tony Romo. Get Bill Parcels on the phone.
Speaker 1: Get Jerry Jones on the phone. Now we're recruiting priority
Speaker 1: free agents. First thing you're gonna do is take the
Speaker 1: guys that are on your draft board. If they get
Speaker 1: through the seventh round here and there's two to three,
Speaker 1: four or five six names whatever, those guys have immediately
Speaker 1: become the priority free agents. You go, we recruit those guys.
Speaker 1: Now they're in a difficult situation right now because they
Speaker 1: don't have a seventh round pick, so they're they're working
Speaker 1: on you know, they're calling these kids, like Dane said,
Speaker 1: and you're saying you're selling them, you're selling hey, listen,
Speaker 1: if you don't get picked, we want you. But you're
Speaker 1: gonna look at those guys that are on the draft
Speaker 1: board first. That the position though, I would think about,
Speaker 1: you know, how you know, how does you know? How
Speaker 1: does the things? How do things play out? Maybe like
Speaker 1: a you know we talked about Gathers was a tight end.
Speaker 1: Maybe they go get a real tight end receiver, another receiver. Yea,
Speaker 1: they haven't had a receiver drafted this year. Maybe they
Speaker 1: go after a few of those. Does Derek Dooley go
Speaker 1: out and get Marques Nor exactly? He recruited Marques North
Speaker 1: to Tennessee. Does he go out and get a big
Speaker 1: body guy Marques North? We draft, We mocked draft him
Speaker 1: too at six eighty nine, I think on during the thing.
Speaker 1: So so that's kind of where that's gonna play out.
Speaker 1: So we'll see a wide receiver. Uh maybe you never
Speaker 1: have enough of those. Uh, those especially with suspensions those
Speaker 1: defensive line. There might be some kids that they that
Speaker 1: they brought in and you tell them that hey are
Speaker 1: starting two defensive ends might not be we might not
Speaker 1: be with us the first four game, absolutely right right there.
Speaker 1: So okay, that we've got all right? Can't what else
Speaker 1: you got? Steve and DC? You're up, Steven, Brian? How
Speaker 1: he going? This is Steve. I've been off real to
Speaker 1: the last two trips to DC and you get to
Speaker 1: take me up on it? Yeah, well, I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't go. I don't go to DC much anymore,
Speaker 1: but they're gonna make me go to DC in week two,
Speaker 1: so I might take you up on it. What do
Speaker 1: you got, man? I think that from the great Draft.
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of daktrust I've been blowing your
Speaker 1: Twitter off about him for weeks now, and uh, I'm
Speaker 1: glad to see that fit finally in. I really didn't
Speaker 1: understand the tight end take at the end of the
Speaker 1: drafts that traits. It's all about traits. Hey, thank you
Speaker 1: much for the call. I'm gonna take up on those
Speaker 1: ribs one day. I got a crew of Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: dot Com guys, so I'm gonna need a bunch on
Speaker 1: them up, a bunch of slabs of ribs. If we
Speaker 1: can do that. Uh, we talked about it. It's traits.
Speaker 1: Yeah at this point. I mean, how many starters come
Speaker 1: out of the sixth round? Not many? But if you
Speaker 1: ever did, and Davis, if you have a chance to
Speaker 1: get a guy that you can work with right you know,
Speaker 1: has the traits, just needs coached up, well then you know,
Speaker 1: and Rico Gathers is not going to make an impact
Speaker 1: on this team in two and sixteen. It's not going
Speaker 1: to happen, right, but two years from now, three years
Speaker 1: from now, where he could be in his development. You know,
Speaker 1: it's intriguing. And so you know exactly. I think you
Speaker 1: just summed it up. You take the traits and you
Speaker 1: coach up the rest. Yeah, well that's that's exactly right.
Speaker 1: Let me go back and recap. There's a couple of
Speaker 1: guys that we had on our board, just to give
Speaker 1: you an idea. We're picked two thirty one. We haven't
Speaker 1: forgot to drap, but we want to get to your calls.
Speaker 1: That's important to us right now before we get out
Speaker 1: of here. Uh we Uh. DeMarcus Airs goes at seven
Speaker 1: two twenty nine to the Pittsburgh Steelers Houston guy. We
Speaker 1: we've talked about him some love speed speed, speed, speed,
Speaker 1: that's kind of his thing. Screen plus, unless he makes
Speaker 1: an impact as a punt returner, I have a hard
Speaker 1: time seeing him holding onto a roster spot very long.
Speaker 1: But my two cents on him. But the next guy
Speaker 1: that was drafted, Daniel Braverman. Put him in the slot.
Speaker 1: Let him just do work. I think he could really
Speaker 1: be a guy right there as an inside receiver. I mean,
Speaker 1: if Cool Beasley can do what he's doing, I think
Speaker 1: Daniel Braverman can do something similar. Okay, and we're still
Speaker 1: we're a pick two thirty one that has uh let's
Speaker 1: see here that two three one that's miamis Dart Tomas Duarte,
Speaker 1: the wide receiver should be tied end. They listed him
Speaker 1: as a tied end here with and he probably is.
Speaker 1: He's a big slot is what he is. You know,
Speaker 1: he's a guy that he's a little bit of a tweeter,
Speaker 1: rocked up receiver, undersized ten to end, however you want
Speaker 1: to describe him. But he does work between the hashes.
Speaker 1: Let him go over the middle of the field, let
Speaker 1: him run down the scene. He has some body control
Speaker 1: of the ball skills to uh to make an impact there.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised he lasted this long, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I thought he'd be off the board somewhere in the
Speaker 1: in the fifth round or so. But Miami's getting good value.
Speaker 1: Yeah I did. I had him as a fifth round.
Speaker 1: I had him. Could juice Those kinds of guys used
Speaker 1: a little villable exactly, So we'll probably see could juice
Speaker 1: go here? Okay, so we're waiting for the redskins. Pick
Speaker 1: is gonna go in? We go, kit You got some
Speaker 1: more calls when we lined up. We have calls. We're
Speaker 1: gonna hit some secret audio were audio Jackson right here? Okay,
Speaker 1: just turns your card. Yes, we've just turned your card
Speaker 1: in here to be a Dallas cowboy. We've just draft.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, well listen, we're excited. Oh my god. Well, hey,
Speaker 1: there's congratulation you had for your accomplishment in your career.
Speaker 1: But now then you're getting ready to get down to business.
Speaker 1: And I know you know that, but we're glad you're
Speaker 1: a cowboy. Hey, I'm ready to go to work. I
Speaker 1: thank you, you bet you bet well. Here I want
Speaker 1: to hand you to Jason Garrett, our coach, congratulations again
Speaker 1: for being a Cowboy. I'm gonna tell you it's a
Speaker 1: great feeling to be a Dallas Cowboy. One. Oh, I
Speaker 1: really I feel it right now. All right, man, here's
Speaker 1: coach Jason. Get serious. How are you doing. I'm doing great? Congratulations, Thanks,
Speaker 1: co I'm excited and I'm an excited. Well, it's an
Speaker 1: exciting day. It's an exciting day for you and for us,
Speaker 1: so excited to get you here. We feel like you
Speaker 1: got a lot of a lot of ability and we're
Speaker 1: excited to see it out on that football field. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm ready to get to work. Really. Okay, congratulations, look
Speaker 1: forward to seeing you. Thank you. Okay, that was awesome.
Speaker 1: That was I mean, he was, he was, he was.
Speaker 1: That's what it's all about right there, and so and
Speaker 1: the next one would be here is Rico Gaithers. Rico Gaithers, Rico,
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones. We just turned your card in to draft
Speaker 1: you for the Dallas Cowboy. Hey, Rico, Hey, Hey Rico.
Speaker 1: So Rico. I've congratulations to you and your family, and
Speaker 1: I guarantee you it feels good to be a cowboy.
Speaker 1: I can tell you I've been one a long time,
Speaker 1: but we're glad to have you on the team. And
Speaker 1: I want our coach Jason Garrett to welcome you to
Speaker 1: the team. Definitely, really appreciated coach. You bet, you bet,
Speaker 1: here's coach Garrett. Rico. Yeah, how are you doing. I'm
Speaker 1: doing all right? Congratulations? Yeah, I appreciate you. You ready
Speaker 1: to play some football? Being ready? Okay? Good. We're excited
Speaker 1: to get to know you a little bit. Okay, all right, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: talk to you soon. Here we go and uh, just
Speaker 1: just on que perfect timing is the man who can
Speaker 1: talk to us about Rico Gathers. And we just heard
Speaker 1: the secret audio and he was, you know, he thought
Speaker 1: he might to get a call from the Dallas Mavericks.
Speaker 1: Instead it was the said it was the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 1: said Nick eat Men, who uh who has He's an
Speaker 1: outstanding connection with Baylor football. He had us for a
Speaker 1: long time. He's an author, an author of books about
Speaker 1: the Baylor program, about Art Briles. If there's anybody that
Speaker 1: knows anything about Baylor football. Uh, and I early in
Speaker 1: this process, we asked you about Billings and you were
Speaker 1: you were very honest about that. But now we bring
Speaker 1: in here you talk about Rico a little bit. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously I don't have as much connections with
Speaker 1: their basketball team, but but you know, this is a
Speaker 1: question that actually bothered Art Briles for a couple of
Speaker 1: years because everyone's like, oh, look at him, he needs
Speaker 1: to be playing football, and he you know, Art kind
Speaker 1: of laughs it off, but he's like, you know, we
Speaker 1: actually have football players on our on our team. You know,
Speaker 1: we don't just go get big, strong guys. But the
Speaker 1: thing about Rico you watch him play, he plays with
Speaker 1: the attitude you want for a football player on the court.
Speaker 1: I mean, he goes, he gets every rebound, he kind
Speaker 1: of fill fight his teammates, pushing and shoving a little bit.
Speaker 1: He's just got that snarley attitude that goes out, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get every board, I'm gonna get every you know,
Speaker 1: get every point, be in the in the paint. And
Speaker 1: so I think it's gonna take time, but I think
Speaker 1: that at least he's got that attitude. You know, he's
Speaker 1: got the body for it. And then now we'll see
Speaker 1: if he's got the ability to do that. But as
Speaker 1: a blocker, as a tough guy, I think he can
Speaker 1: learn and develop that. Yeah, talk about a power forward.
Speaker 1: I think he's ever been, you know, the power part
Speaker 1: watching just him, you know, play the game of basketball,
Speaker 1: real emotional player. You know, he plays with his heart
Speaker 1: on his sleeve. And sometimes it might take it a
Speaker 1: little too far, but you know, you like to see
Speaker 1: that intensity, that temperament. You need to have that competitive
Speaker 1: drive if you're gonna be in line, if you're going
Speaker 1: to go up against NFL defensive lineman. So yeah, he's
Speaker 1: got the building blocks to uh, you know, we talk
Speaker 1: about the traits got, you know, things you can build
Speaker 1: off of and develop. So you know, the foundation is there.
Speaker 1: Every sport says that you know, we're gonna go out there,
Speaker 1: we're gonna hit him in the mouth. I'm sure they
Speaker 1: say it in baseball. Well you do it in Foah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you get hit in the mouth thirty seven times a game,
Speaker 1: you know, and that's kind of part of it. And
Speaker 1: you're right, he's the one that probably likes to deliver
Speaker 1: those blows as much as anyone does. He is he
Speaker 1: gonna go and be Antonio Gates. I mean, let's let's
Speaker 1: hold off on that. Talk about the athletic ability though,
Speaker 1: Yeah about him, I mean, is he's you know, and
Speaker 1: that's one thing. You watch some of those highlights, they're
Speaker 1: showing fadeaways and and and layups and stuff, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: you know, let's let me see how he you know,
Speaker 1: how he goes and gets the boards and dunks and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Dave you joining us, No, da. He
Speaker 1: always makes an entrance and then an exit, and it's
Speaker 1: always like disturbing. I think Gary's about to talk here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you're right about the athletic ability. He's the type
Speaker 1: of guy that that's going to um find, you know,
Speaker 1: get into the right way, get in the positions because
Speaker 1: he rebounding. You know, obviously this is the position show.
Speaker 1: But who's the greatest rebounder of all time in our generation? Rodman? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Robin's not the biggest guy in the world. He just
Speaker 1: wanted it more than anyone else. You gotta be kind
Speaker 1: of craziest will be and he, you know, he was
Speaker 1: definitely that right and this guy went out and he led.
Speaker 1: I think he led the nation rebound this year, maybe
Speaker 1: two years, but I don't know that for a fact,
Speaker 1: but I know that he was one of the top
Speaker 1: rebounders for the last two years. Well, we have you
Speaker 1: here though, and thank you for that insight. On Rico guests,
Speaker 1: talk about a little bit about what you've seen though
Speaker 1: from the draft we had. This is the first time
Speaker 1: we had an opportunity to talk to you all. We
Speaker 1: all understand. Yeah, we all understand. Just yeah, we all
Speaker 1: we all understand. We all understand the pick. We understand
Speaker 1: what is Zekiel it is. Talk about Jalen Smith though,
Speaker 1: I mean it give us a little bit different perspective
Speaker 1: or maybe the same perspective of what you think this
Speaker 1: is going to overall be. At my kids soccer game
Speaker 1: this morning, I got asked the question why would they
Speaker 1: take a player who is not going to be ready
Speaker 1: to play this year and I and my answer is
Speaker 1: is because they think when he is ready to play,
Speaker 1: he could be the best player in the draft. And
Speaker 1: that's the only except. I mean, that's the reason why
Speaker 1: you do it. I mean, there's why everything you do
Speaker 1: with this risk reward and he's a huge reward if
Speaker 1: it works, and we've seen second round picks that don't
Speaker 1: work and they're one hundred percent healthy. I just think
Speaker 1: that they're always looking for upside and and he's got
Speaker 1: the ability to do that. They trust the doctor because
Speaker 1: he did the surgery. I don't think they do it
Speaker 1: without that, and they trust this rehab team to bring
Speaker 1: people back. Then you don't pay the I don't know
Speaker 1: what they make, but you don't pay big bucks to
Speaker 1: the Jim Mauers and Browns of the world. If they don't,
Speaker 1: you don't expect them to kind of get this thing
Speaker 1: turned around. And and and it's not like they're just
Speaker 1: not doing their due diligence. I mean they passed on
Speaker 1: Miles Jack Yeah, for him. You know, as some players work,
Speaker 1: some players don't. So I think what I've said all weekend,
Speaker 1: they took a guy that helps them tomorrow and Ezekiel Eliott,
Speaker 1: they take a guy that helps them next year. And
Speaker 1: Jay Lensman. It's been a risky type draft. You know,
Speaker 1: they're taking risks. It's it's it's I've said this before, Nick,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a draft where the general manager has
Speaker 1: job security and he has since nineteen eighty nine, you know,
Speaker 1: and and and you know this, but he did win
Speaker 1: Executive of the Year two years ago, you know, and
Speaker 1: that was something that he you know, you talked about
Speaker 1: his Super Bowl accomplishments and when in that I was
Speaker 1: with with the Senior Bowl when that was announced, and
Speaker 1: he couldn't have been more proud about that. But again,
Speaker 1: I questioned a little bit about this team, and we've
Speaker 1: talked about this that maybe he thinks it's not a
Speaker 1: it was not a four and twelve team. That's more
Speaker 1: likely a twelve and four team, you know, So that's
Speaker 1: if you general general manager would not make that call,
Speaker 1: right unless he had the security no one, you know what,
Speaker 1: I can wait on this guy, you know, and no
Speaker 1: one has told me this. This is just my personal
Speaker 1: belief that last year you stole a first round pick,
Speaker 1: you thought you stole two and Randy Gregory and maybe
Speaker 1: you will, but right now it's hard to really count
Speaker 1: on him. But Lyle Collins, you stole one, right this year,
Speaker 1: maybe you're gonna steal another one and Jaylen Smith and
Speaker 1: it takes a two to get there. But it's almost
Speaker 1: like you, you know, hey, you got good talent coming
Speaker 1: into this team with Byron Jones and Lyle Collins and
Speaker 1: maybe Gregor if he can, you know, keep keep himself
Speaker 1: on the field. But but Jalen Smith, I think he's
Speaker 1: just another guy. Jerry's not afraid to do that. No,
Speaker 1: he's not. And again that's because of the job. He
Speaker 1: got the job security because okay, we're watching their team
Speaker 1: play though we were thinking defensive help. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: you're thinking defensive and evidently Oba was going to be
Speaker 1: the guy and that, you know, so that kind of
Speaker 1: kicked him in the rear a little bit right there, though,
Speaker 1: Have they done enough and what you've seen defensively so
Speaker 1: you feel a little bit better. So you and I
Speaker 1: aren't doing those postgame press conference SAMs from Tampa where
Speaker 1: you look at me and you go listen here, salty mcsalty.
Speaker 1: You know you're just as mad as I am right
Speaker 1: now about what has happened out there. But you feel
Speaker 1: better about that, you feel I feel better And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna steal your own your own theory here at this
Speaker 1: point in the draft, I'm sure you've said the words
Speaker 1: several times about traits and you look at guys what
Speaker 1: they have, and so how can they help him this year?
Speaker 1: What do these guys do to help um Tapper? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I think he's a guy that comes in.
Speaker 1: I know you've talked about him. I think he comes
Speaker 1: in and he'll be on third down and he'll rotational guys.
Speaker 1: The cat said, yation guy, and he's got some length
Speaker 1: to him. He's gonna have some spark and all that.
Speaker 1: It doesn't go off the field a whole lot. I
Speaker 1: didn't think he played a lot. So you know, played
Speaker 1: in high competition and he played in the league that
Speaker 1: throws the ball around. Yeah, a lot. So I think
Speaker 1: I think he helps them. Um and I think the
Speaker 1: big guy from Nebraska College, Yeah, the same thing. But
Speaker 1: to me, when you look at this team, when you
Speaker 1: look at the Browns, I'm sorry to throw them out there,
Speaker 1: but because but they're similar. But looking for right, but
Speaker 1: you're looking at their guys and you're thinking he's playing,
Speaker 1: he's playing. He's playing. The fact that the Cowboys, the
Speaker 1: fact that really not a four and twelve team is
Speaker 1: that they're getting second and third, fourth round guys that
Speaker 1: are going to be contributing. This team's got some talent.
Speaker 1: We know that they just got to get their quarterback
Speaker 1: to stand out for sixteen weeks into that quarterback, Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: Before you get out of here, hey, you know, I
Speaker 1: was asked a lot of questions. I had to look
Speaker 1: at Dane's stuff. The one hundred and eleven touchdowns is
Speaker 1: impressive to me, you know, and he's not. And also
Speaker 1: the twenty nine and five making smart decisions twenty one touchdowns,
Speaker 1: five interceptions. Um, you know there's something about taking in
Speaker 1: the always say this about Romo. You know, you can say, well,
Speaker 1: Romo is not this, He's not Danny White or whatever. No,
Speaker 1: Romo is the face of this franchise. He has been
Speaker 1: the guy that gets all the blame. It's all on
Speaker 1: Tony good or bad. Yeah, in a smaller level, that's
Speaker 1: what it was. Michigan a mission, Misissippi State. You know,
Speaker 1: he just kind of elevated that whole program to be
Speaker 1: a number one team in the country. And I think
Speaker 1: there's something to be said for a guy that says,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'll take it all it's bad, I'll
Speaker 1: take it. I think it's like Johnny Manziel's second year
Speaker 1: at A and M. Everyone said, well he wasn't as good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's pretty good. It just went Heisman, Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott was pretty good. That their team wasn't as good.
Speaker 1: Oh he didn't. There some times where he didn't get
Speaker 1: some help. There's and I think he's in a situation
Speaker 1: where he'll develop and and and he said the word developed.
Speaker 1: Now have they developed a quarterback? They haven't. They haven't,
Speaker 1: and they haven't really tried a lot. And I also
Speaker 1: said this all the time, this is the opposite. If
Speaker 1: you're gonna get me a guy to develop, make sure
Speaker 1: he didn't get bench his senior year like McGee. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: at least Dak Prescott give me a Heisman Trophy candidate ball,
Speaker 1: you know, Niki. Thank you so much, guys, Sir Nick
Speaker 1: even on Dallas Cowboys going to the bathroom and all
Speaker 1: we're we're hanging in. We got almost there, we got wait,
Speaker 1: we had we're two Uh what are we at now?
Speaker 1: Two thirty seven? We'll tea we're doing. Thank you, guys.
Speaker 1: Nick even Dallas Cowboys dot Com always encourage you to
Speaker 1: read his work. He's got a lot of good stuff.
Speaker 1: Brian Waiting on a press conference here, Okay, the fans
Speaker 1: can see it in their window there, but we'll go
Speaker 1: live to that as so. Okay, Jerry walks in, Okay,
Speaker 1: Kik Garrison, who's been doing an outstanding job of keeping
Speaker 1: us online. Uh he and Douglas, Uh, we do you
Speaker 1: got a call for me? Kn't man? Well? Dustin In Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: Who's been holding Okay, Dustin, go ahead, what do you
Speaker 1: got man? I just want to get you guys some credit.
Speaker 1: You guys have done a fabulous job. Dame and Brian,
Speaker 1: thank you much, great, thanks, thank you, oh you guys. Man, seriously,
Speaker 1: thank you. M really risky in my opinion. If it
Speaker 1: pays off, you know, WI player, he does, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. We'll get to that. I appreciate
Speaker 1: we got the press conference going up. I did mean
Speaker 1: to cut you out there, and you're right about the
Speaker 1: risky pick. Here we go with Jerry Jones the press conference.
Speaker 1: They're settling in right now here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, Jason Garrett settling in for the
Speaker 1: press conference for post draft bring it to you live
Speaker 1: here in Dallas Cowboys dot guys. In general, we uh,
Speaker 1: we're pleased with our third day and that's what we'll
Speaker 1: discuss with you or these picks that that we've made today.
Speaker 1: We've already visited with you about Collins or Smith. If
Speaker 1: you have a question about Elliott Collins, Smith or Collins
Speaker 1: and feel free to answer them. But having said that,
Speaker 1: won't we go ahead and just ask the questions that
Speaker 1: you might at one of either of us. Is the
Speaker 1: discussion that eventually led to a press Scott, Well, he
Speaker 1: was on our board and he's someone that we liked.
Speaker 1: We got to know him. Wade Wilson went down and
Speaker 1: worked him out Mississippi State. We hid him into our building.
Speaker 1: We spent a lot of time with him, and we
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time with a number of the
Speaker 1: different quarterbacks and uh, you know, you go down and
Speaker 1: you figure out where you want to put those guys
Speaker 1: on the draft board, and when it comes time to
Speaker 1: pick one of those names, Uh, it's a very thoughtful
Speaker 1: process that leads you there. And obviously we valued the
Speaker 1: quarterback position. We feel like we wanted to get a young,
Speaker 1: developmental guy in here, and uh, you know, he was
Speaker 1: a guy that we really liked as a person. We
Speaker 1: liked him a lot as a player, highly endorsed by
Speaker 1: everybody at Mississippi State. His career speaks for itself and
Speaker 1: there's a lot to like about this guy. So developmental
Speaker 1: quarterback that we think is going to fit in well
Speaker 1: to our system. Him as a player, Oh, I think
Speaker 1: you have to look at his production first and what
Speaker 1: he did down there, won a lot of games at
Speaker 1: Mississippi State. You know, uh, he and others took that
Speaker 1: team with the number one ranking in the in the
Speaker 1: country for a short period of time. And you know, again,
Speaker 1: if you ask a lot of people there, coaches players,
Speaker 1: he's just one of those guys that they feel as
Speaker 1: a great and tangible qualities and you know, a great
Speaker 1: leader positively impacts everybody there. Has played big in big
Speaker 1: games and just done a lot of really good things
Speaker 1: on the field. Physically, he's big, he's strong, he can
Speaker 1: throw it, he can run, He's a very experienced player. Again,
Speaker 1: he's developmental from the standpoint that he's going to be
Speaker 1: young and he has to learn, you know, how we
Speaker 1: want to do things. But there are a lot of
Speaker 1: tools there and there a lot of great character qualities
Speaker 1: that you love. Jerry and Stephen, you clearly like several
Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks that you invested a lot of time
Speaker 1: in looking at it in this draft at Axton Lynch
Speaker 1: and Connor Cook there at the top of the fourth
Speaker 1: and then Prescott, can you talk about wanting to come
Speaker 1: out of this draft with the young developmental guy where
Speaker 1: you convinced that out of the group that you saw
Speaker 1: that there was someone here work investing angling forward. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we got real comfortable with the group of quarterbacks. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the Scots have put a lot of work into it,
Speaker 1: and then Jason and Wade and Scott all jumped in,
Speaker 1: and you know, we did a lot of work on
Speaker 1: these guys, and you know, when it was all said
Speaker 1: and done, we had some guys we liked better than others,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, we worked hard a couple of
Speaker 1: times to get a couple of guys we didn't get
Speaker 1: and then uh, as it worked out, we did get
Speaker 1: Dac And you know, as Jason said, there were a
Speaker 1: lot of qualities in uh Dak that we may have
Speaker 1: liked more than uh, you know, some of the guys
Speaker 1: we were working on earlier. So we feel real good
Speaker 1: about getting this guy. And uh, you know, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of things he has that some of the other
Speaker 1: guys didn't. And we'll just see what happens. That's part
Speaker 1: of the process, and I'm sure he'll be ready to
Speaker 1: go to work with uh, you know, with what we
Speaker 1: have here with Keelan and Tony and Showers. So we've
Speaker 1: got a good group for me. I'd like to say
Speaker 1: that I've wanted because we were so focused in on it,
Speaker 1: it became apparent to me that to be here when
Speaker 1: Romos here is a way of an opportunity for the
Speaker 1: development of a young quarterback and how to fit that
Speaker 1: in with the dynamics of what we hope is a
Speaker 1: healthy Romo for the most part over the next several years,
Speaker 1: as well as have the young quarterback exposed to some
Speaker 1: of the positives that I think he'll get. We've got
Speaker 1: a great coaching staff back here for quarterbacks. Jason of
Speaker 1: course is quarterback in the National Football League, a player
Speaker 1: and understands it as far as my opinion is, understands
Speaker 1: the position as well as anybody there is in pro football.
Speaker 1: You've got Wade Wilson, You've got also you've got Lenahan
Speaker 1: that all really have quarterback experience and have been around
Speaker 1: them all their lives. That with Romo just a great
Speaker 1: chance for a quarterback. So this year was important to start,
Speaker 1: if you will, down the road of developing a young
Speaker 1: quarterback down the line was a little less problematic than
Speaker 1: if you had gone with the first pick, because you
Speaker 1: have not only did what you sacrificed in your value.
Speaker 1: If your pick or if you will, players for right
Speaker 1: now to win now with Romo, but it also might
Speaker 1: have presented something problematic three or four years down the
Speaker 1: road that maybe this will take a different, different bit.
Speaker 1: So all of that motivated me to really have her
Speaker 1: eye on as we moved through the values. As we
Speaker 1: went down the board looking at the position, we don't
Speaker 1: tweak to you all about the basketball player we go
Speaker 1: gathers coming a tight end. Well, obviously the last pick
Speaker 1: that we had, it was the fourth of our four
Speaker 1: sixth round picks, and he's a guy that came on
Speaker 1: the radar here recently, and he's just very impressive physically.
Speaker 1: You know, he's he's six feet seventy's two hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy plus pounds, has not played a lot of football
Speaker 1: in his life. But you know, when Steve Loney went
Speaker 1: to the workout to see him, he was impressed with
Speaker 1: him and clearly he's determined to do this. And so
Speaker 1: we just felt, you know, at the bottom of our draft,
Speaker 1: we felt like this was a worthwhile opportunity for us
Speaker 1: to take a shot at somebody. And it seems like
Speaker 1: he has a lot of really good traits as an
Speaker 1: athlete and his style as a basketball players one where
Speaker 1: is very physical, prolific rebounder. We felt like that could
Speaker 1: translate clearly, he's a developmental player, but if he turns
Speaker 1: into something, you know, it might be something that you
Speaker 1: really like. Jerry just talk about Dak learning under Tony.
Speaker 1: How much can Rico learn under Well? I am. We
Speaker 1: can go into that, But first of all, everybody can
Speaker 1: learn as a player, and I can learn being around
Speaker 1: Jason Whitton. I think, including commissioners, owners, coaches, everybody in
Speaker 1: the NFL. He's one of the top five people I've
Speaker 1: been around in the NFL, and so you can learn
Speaker 1: a lot being around him. Obviously, he has no peer
Speaker 1: as far as his game and his practice and how
Speaker 1: he plays through obstacles such as pain, So all of that,
Speaker 1: He'll be in the meeting room with him, He'll be
Speaker 1: out at the practice in close proximity to him. He'll
Speaker 1: get a better advantage than everybody will on the team.
Speaker 1: But everybody, all of these young guys, plus some of
Speaker 1: us that are going into our final game days, can
Speaker 1: learn from Jason. What are your well will? I'm gonna
Speaker 1: let Jason talk about what the thing that impressed me
Speaker 1: the most was played at that high competition. His speed
Speaker 1: little bit, he'll be in a different really as far
Speaker 1: as his technique, he'll be in a different situation here.
Speaker 1: But that size, that speed was impressive and I was
Speaker 1: glad he was there. I just really like him athletically.
Speaker 1: We feel like he's certainly a defensive end candidate for
Speaker 1: us and a right end candidate pass rush guys. An
Speaker 1: outstanding athlete, a lot of basketball in his background growing up,
Speaker 1: and we do think the way that we play, the
Speaker 1: scheme that we run in the style of defense that
Speaker 1: we have a really feature some of the physical traits
Speaker 1: that he has and it plays the right way. It
Speaker 1: seems like an outstanding character guy. Leon Lett went up
Speaker 1: there and spent some time with him, and you know,
Speaker 1: we really feel like he has a chance to be
Speaker 1: a good football player for us. Excited that he was
Speaker 1: there at the top of the fourth force here being
Speaker 1: to suit his abilities, he wasn't allowed to attack as
Speaker 1: much setublehome. He played more head up in their scheme
Speaker 1: and did it very well. But we do think he'll
Speaker 1: play a little bit more on the edge and get
Speaker 1: up to feel a little bit more in our scheme.
Speaker 1: With the goal in the sixth round, but with players
Speaker 1: that guys adds it more looking at what they could
Speaker 1: be and the upside of down the road maintene. Aiding
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a chance, or just kind
Speaker 1: of what is the goal if you guys going to
Speaker 1: a rounding to sex, well, I'm going to let the
Speaker 1: guy that's set around the table with the master Jim
Speaker 1: Garrett grew his dad Jim Garrett explain what happens in
Speaker 1: the final rounds of the draft and of what you're
Speaker 1: trying to look for. This is I'll say this, this
Speaker 1: is right for we're going into free agency and free agency.
Speaker 1: It's a recruiting process as well as a bidding process
Speaker 1: in free agency. So if you don't want a guy
Speaker 1: to get in free agency and you see, y'all, I
Speaker 1: don't want to get his deal, but there it's a
Speaker 1: mixed bagge Jason and kind of give us the yeah.
Speaker 1: A lot of teams have different philosophies of the different
Speaker 1: rounds in the NFL, and our philosophy typically in the
Speaker 1: six and seventh round is you want to try to
Speaker 1: draft the more developmental type player and he might not
Speaker 1: have all the skills he needs right now to step
Speaker 1: in and play, but he's someone with coaching you feel
Speaker 1: I can develop into something that you really want. So
Speaker 1: sometimes you take a shot and a guy late, and
Speaker 1: I think mister Joe makes a great point. And a
Speaker 1: lot of these cases you buttressed the sixth and seventh
Speaker 1: round up against free agency, and you say, this guy's
Speaker 1: going to be hard to get in free agency. Let's
Speaker 1: draft this guy as sure that we get this guy,
Speaker 1: and maybe we'll compete for someone else in free agency
Speaker 1: with some of the other teams. So you combine those
Speaker 1: things developmental guy with high upside, you look for physical
Speaker 1: traits and UH, and then also the competition for the
Speaker 1: potential free agency situation that you might get into. Let's
Speaker 1: get the guy now rather than to get in that
Speaker 1: competition with other teams. And the only other thing I
Speaker 1: would add to that is, you know, in the in
Speaker 1: Brown's case, in Frasier's cases were fourth round picks for us,
Speaker 1: And so you turned out it was both ways. We
Speaker 1: were picking two guys that we had in the fourth
Speaker 1: round that we felt like half fourth round type traits
Speaker 1: and Brown and Frasier, and then then we were into
Speaker 1: our sixth round of our board. That's all we had
Speaker 1: left on our board. So then you're into the guys
Speaker 1: that Jason just described. So we kind of had a
Speaker 1: mixed bag there with our sixth round. Garry Jackson talked
Speaker 1: to by athletic, ging fast and some of those traits
Speaker 1: he had. Yeah, and he falls into that latter category.
Speaker 1: And Steven's exactly right. You're looking at your board and
Speaker 1: you're trying to take your best player, and if that
Speaker 1: best player falls from a higher round into the sixth round, general,
Speaker 1: the philosophy is to take him. But the bottom two
Speaker 1: guys that we took, Jackson and Gathers fit into that
Speaker 1: other category of a more developmental guy. Jackson has a
Speaker 1: lot of ability, he runs fast, he jumps high, was
Speaker 1: a productive player, but you feel like, you know, hopefully
Speaker 1: with coaching and with some experience, he can turn into
Speaker 1: something you really like. He was going to be a
Speaker 1: hard sell for us too. The other issue is if
Speaker 1: we've loaded up in the early in our early rounds
Speaker 1: and they look up there and you've got to somebody
Speaker 1: like Elliott sitting up there, then he's a little hard
Speaker 1: sell for us coming in here with mc fadden and
Speaker 1: so you look at that and now you get ready,
Speaker 1: you're gonna pay his bonus, but still you've you've made
Speaker 1: the decision for him about two secondary what you liked
Speaker 1: about and this year, well, I think the biggest thing
Speaker 1: with all these guys, you just want to bring him
Speaker 1: in here and get him started and uh, and we'll
Speaker 1: talk about getting to work and making sure in that
Speaker 1: rookie minicamp we focus on Friday and just you know,
Speaker 1: do what you're supposed to do on that day. Eliminate
Speaker 1: the expectations of what their roles are right away. But
Speaker 1: obviously we think a lot of those a lot of
Speaker 1: these guys the corner. Uh, you know, someone who really
Speaker 1: can run. He's got a lot of ability. We feel
Speaker 1: like he has a big upside and can really compete,
Speaker 1: you know, for a roster spot right away and then
Speaker 1: certainly uh for a role and hopefully at some point
Speaker 1: in his career he has the ability to be a
Speaker 1: starter at that position. And then the safety. Very active guy,
Speaker 1: just a really good football player. You see him do
Speaker 1: a lot of different things. He's kind of a playmaking
Speaker 1: guy down around the line of scrimmage. So you see
Speaker 1: him as a guy who might be a little further
Speaker 1: along than some of the other developmental guys and might
Speaker 1: be able to come in and compete right away. But
Speaker 1: you know, a big emphasis for us with all these
Speaker 1: guys is making sure that they focus on themselves, focus
Speaker 1: on understanding what we're trying to teach him, and come
Speaker 1: to work every day. Steve, and I guess it was
Speaker 1: in your mind pretty clear that Gathers probably wouldn't make
Speaker 1: it to the free agent pool, that somebody who was
Speaker 1: going to get him somewhere. Yeah, we went down and
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time with him, and I think
Speaker 1: there were twenty six twenty seven NFL teams I think
Speaker 1: at his workout, and you know, we just did a
Speaker 1: lot of work on him, and I really felt he
Speaker 1: had a lot of the traits that some of these
Speaker 1: other tight ends that have played basketball first in the NFL,
Speaker 1: you know, A Gates or guys like that that have
Speaker 1: had success. You know, we think he has some of
Speaker 1: those traits. I'm not saying he's gonna be one of
Speaker 1: those guys, but he certainly has the traits. And then
Speaker 1: you know the other thing is he's a little thicker.
Speaker 1: I think he can also do the physicality of him.
Speaker 1: He could be a white tight end for us as well,
Speaker 1: an inline blocker and little bit like Martellis Bennett was
Speaker 1: for us, you know, with his long arms, big hands. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, he's just a big man and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: we liked what we saw there and you know, really
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, with our situation, he's a good
Speaker 1: fit for Uce. Can you give us an update on
Speaker 1: Shanley and do you expect him to be ready? Boy? Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know about OTAs well. You know, we're no
Speaker 1: hurry with Sean. I don't you know, I don't know
Speaker 1: how much practice he needs in terms of uh need
Speaker 1: no tas Obviously we'd love to have him out there,
Speaker 1: but we'll be slow with him. But you know, there's
Speaker 1: no issues there with him. I think it's probably good
Speaker 1: we went ahead and did it and uh make him
Speaker 1: feel better and he'll be ready to go for training
Speaker 1: camp for sure, and we'll just kind of see, you know,
Speaker 1: how it feels as we work back. But obviously we'll
Speaker 1: be very conservative there with him. Yeah, it's a good question.
Speaker 1: We'll get the doctors. But there's something that bothered him
Speaker 1: for a little bit, or is something that cropped up
Speaker 1: during just cropped up. It was kind of bothering him
Speaker 1: a little bit. And when I check it here while
Speaker 1: we're early in the you know, early in the offseason,
Speaker 1: and get it, get it cleaned up. So can you
Speaker 1: talk about it since you drive quarterbacks, so when frequently
Speaker 1: I believe a lot of people outside the building are
Speaker 1: going to say, well, it's Tony Romo's successor can you
Speaker 1: address just how you view this move and how with
Speaker 1: the time frame you've fee with Romo before, this is
Speaker 1: a look to see how you can develop and you've
Speaker 1: started the process going out. Yeah, in this case, not
Speaker 1: because mister process is sitting here, but in this case,
Speaker 1: in this case, I must say that this this could
Speaker 1: be couched as a process. On the other hand, it's
Speaker 1: strictly as we look to the future. All of it
Speaker 1: does add up for future, and it's because that I
Speaker 1: don't if Romo was healthy, then he's going to play
Speaker 1: the games. What's great is that if there's ever a
Speaker 1: time when we're feel like that we can have Romo
Speaker 1: off the field, then we've got someone here that can
Speaker 1: get snaps and show how he does in the NFL
Speaker 1: and how he does with the Dallas Cowboys. I think
Speaker 1: it compliments us very well with what we're going to
Speaker 1: be doing with our quarterbacks, and we've got a good plan,
Speaker 1: a real good plan, exciting in that his upside is
Speaker 1: about his character. He's about it. Jason reminded me that
Speaker 1: we have spent as it would have it a couple
Speaker 1: of times in the off season with Roger stallback, and
Speaker 1: Roger said to both of us at the same time,
Speaker 1: but had said it each time because he thought, you know,
Speaker 1: we were considering the future after Romo at quarterback, and
Speaker 1: he said, somebody the team will really follow that. They
Speaker 1: believe in him, they will follow in him. And invariably
Speaker 1: when you ask about Dak, that's the first thing that
Speaker 1: came out was that magnetism, that leadership that's involved. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't want to write a check with my mouth
Speaker 1: that he has to cover here with you or anybody
Speaker 1: or fans, but he's got it and so but boy,
Speaker 1: he does have a lot of work to do with
Speaker 1: Jason and a lot of work to do becoming a
Speaker 1: pro quarterback. But the journey or the effort has started.
Speaker 1: We're totally committed to giving him at every opportunity to develop.
Speaker 1: And he's a guy that my assessment of him is
Speaker 1: you want him to do it, you really want, not
Speaker 1: that you don't want anybody to do it, but you
Speaker 1: want him to do it because he has all those tangibles.
Speaker 1: So it was about the future. I can't bring myself
Speaker 1: on my staff point to think about opening day of
Speaker 1: this year of seventeen s sixteen season. I can't think
Speaker 1: like that, or for that matter early. I don't want
Speaker 1: any more of that cheese. And so you're thinking about
Speaker 1: the future here, and like I said, I think from
Speaker 1: my perspective, this is a good time to inject him
Speaker 1: his skill level, what he's about into our staff. Jason. Yeah. Again,
Speaker 1: when you talk to people at Mississippi State, line one
Speaker 1: with Dac is his intangible qualities, his leadership qualities, how
Speaker 1: he has such a positive impact on his teammates and
Speaker 1: on the team, and you add that to his athletic
Speaker 1: ability and there's a lot to get excited about. But again,
Speaker 1: you want to resist expectations and roles with all these guys.
Speaker 1: Get him in here, teach them our system of football,
Speaker 1: how we do things, take it day by day and
Speaker 1: see how it all how it all shakes out. But
Speaker 1: we're gonna expect these guys to come in and compete,
Speaker 1: and we expect him to come in and compete and
Speaker 1: we'll see what the roles are as we go forward. Sure,
Speaker 1: you pretty emphatically said before the drive that you felt
Speaker 1: like the roster closer to twelve and twelve do you
Speaker 1: think you drive reflected that a little bit, taking the
Speaker 1: running back high, taking the lineback her merriment not be
Speaker 1: able to help this year. I don't know if I
Speaker 1: put the gatherers picking the same boat with us later
Speaker 1: in the drive, but well to the extent that we
Speaker 1: can interpret the picks that we've made as to how
Speaker 1: I felt when I said we're closer to the year
Speaker 1: we had the year before than our leary last year,
Speaker 1: then you can interpret it that way. I certainly feel
Speaker 1: that way. And I must tell you that, as we
Speaker 1: said yesterday, Smith Jalen just overcame with his abilities and
Speaker 1: how he really could ultimately impact for years and years
Speaker 1: and years this franchise. He overcame the fact that I
Speaker 1: would have sixteen totally and completely burned in my forehead
Speaker 1: and on my mind. You had to give that some
Speaker 1: consideration the future there with that, I don't want to
Speaker 1: make anything up because you know that I don't know
Speaker 1: and no one knows whether or not he could make
Speaker 1: a contribution this year or not. We do feel good
Speaker 1: though about his future. But when I look down through
Speaker 1: here and I look at it, I look at some
Speaker 1: of the goals that I'll just say that I had,
Speaker 1: and I certainly wanted to think about having a young
Speaker 1: quarterback on the roster. I wanted to think about improving
Speaker 1: the defense. I wanted to think about certainly what we
Speaker 1: could do strategically. Was there a way to really put
Speaker 1: something really impact this team very special. I think that
Speaker 1: first pick's got a chance to do that. And then again,
Speaker 1: I think have two in my role and should be
Speaker 1: thinking about beyond opening day this year, and I think
Speaker 1: this reflects a lot of it. Thank you here, so
Speaker 1: we're good to go now. That was Dame Bruegler. Brian
Speaker 1: brought us here in the SWBC Morket studios. We're working
Speaker 1: our way through the final picks of this draft, two
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty three of them. That was Jerry Jones,
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones, Jason Garrett. They gave you the assessment of
Speaker 1: what they felt like they had done so far in
Speaker 1: this NFL draft. And you know, the idea about talking
Speaker 1: about Dak Prescott, talking about Malie Collins and Tapper and
Speaker 1: Jackson gathers all that a lot of things going on there,
Speaker 1: just to recap where it picked two forty eight, about
Speaker 1: to be picked two forty nine, just to kind of
Speaker 1: get back into this a little bit. Uh, Jalen Mills
Speaker 1: goes to the just to recap a little bit. Jaylen
Speaker 1: Mills goes back, goes to the Philadelphia Eagles at two
Speaker 1: thirty three, but dal Alexander to the Raiders. Yeah, back
Speaker 1: to back LSU guys. They need to be first round guys,
Speaker 1: gonna be seventh round guys. It tells you a little
Speaker 1: bit about where we're at right now. But Oakland takes
Speaker 1: at two thirty four, Alexander the guard from LSU, just
Speaker 1: going down. Daniel Lasco with the Saints. At two thirty seven,
Speaker 1: Alex McCalister to the Philadelphia Eagles. So Philly took two
Speaker 1: questionable sec guys. Yeah, talented Jalen Mills and Alex McAlister.
Speaker 1: Talented the talents the seventh round guys off field is ye, yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, this is the point where would take a chance,
Speaker 1: take a chance to it and yeah and he Alex McAllister,
Speaker 1: the defensive end goes to the Eagles at two forty
Speaker 1: h peak, the wide receiver from Clemson, goes to York Jets.
Speaker 1: At two forty one. Keith Marshall, a lot of people,
Speaker 1: kind of a fan favorite of a lot of people.
Speaker 1: The first running back the Redskins of drafted this year.
Speaker 1: I thought they'd pick a running back a lot earlier
Speaker 1: than the seventh round. But here they are. They at
Speaker 1: Keith Marshall. Keith Marshall. Yeah, and we've we've talked about him.
Speaker 1: Explosive player, but not always he's not everything, especially at
Speaker 1: the running back, not not with him right. So we'll
Speaker 1: see what happens. And then uh Seattle. At two forty three,
Speaker 1: my buddy Johnny Snyder and Pete Carroll take Kenny Lawler,
Speaker 1: the wide receiver from cal player we thought would go
Speaker 1: top one hundred, possibly doubt I had him. We had
Speaker 1: him in the third. I had him in the third round.
Speaker 1: He's a four sixth athlete, you know, and that obviously
Speaker 1: teams care about the forty time for six athlete. I'll
Speaker 1: have some drops, but he'll make some of the most
Speaker 1: spectacular catches you've ever seen. So surprising. He fell all
Speaker 1: the way at this point. Yeah, this will be This
Speaker 1: will be interesting. I think he went to a good
Speaker 1: spot there in Seattle. And uh go further down Minnesota
Speaker 1: at two forty four, take Giron Curse, the safety from Clemson.
Speaker 1: That's kind of about where we thought Javon excuse me,
Speaker 1: Geron Curse was gonna end up in the seventh round
Speaker 1: if at all. Uh. Boy, he's a good looking athlete,
Speaker 1: but a good looking player just doesn't always play that way.
Speaker 1: Tyler Man of Cabage, the the when you watch the tape,
Speaker 1: the linebacker from Temple. Uh, he's us all over the field,
Speaker 1: makes plays everywhere. Uh, pittsburghs too, is a good good
Speaker 1: pick for Pittsburgh. Yeah, yeah, you know, Pittsburgh's had some
Speaker 1: questionable picks earlier, I thought. But I like Tyler Man
Speaker 1: of Cabage. I have a productive Yeah. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: not the biggest on the fast, no, but he's in
Speaker 1: the right pa he will make every single tackle if
Speaker 1: they have And then uh we go down to again.
Speaker 1: We're a picked two fifty with Cleveland. H Austin Blythe
Speaker 1: U goes to uh the Packers at excuse me, Austin
Speaker 1: Blythe goes to the Colts. My bad, I wrote that
Speaker 1: down wrong. Austin blythe the center from Iowa, goes to
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts at pick two forty where at pick
Speaker 1: two forty nine, uh, Prince Charleswarawara. And we skipped one
Speaker 1: guy that we skipped one of my favorite I'm sorry
Speaker 1: about this draft. Clayton Figellum Okay from Illinois safety went
Speaker 1: to Cincinnati. That's right, you had you did love this player.
Speaker 1: He does have his limitations and coverage, there's no question
Speaker 1: he's gonna be tough for him to see snaps on defense,
Speaker 1: but one of the toughest dudes in this draft. He'll
Speaker 1: hit you. He's got a ledge shoulder. He's gonna come
Speaker 1: down the alley and you try to poke holes in
Speaker 1: you with with that shoulder. Really tough run defender. I
Speaker 1: think he can stick on special teams. I love what
Speaker 1: the Bengals have done in this draft. I think they've
Speaker 1: They've picked up a lot of solid players. Yeah again,
Speaker 1: I always say this about the Bengals and you're probably
Speaker 1: tired of it by now. It's a very much a
Speaker 1: coach driven. But Duke Tobin Bill Tobin, I mean old
Speaker 1: school kind of NFL scouts guys. When I was in
Speaker 1: the league, Duke Tobin was just starting out. Now he
Speaker 1: does a great job of personnel with the sinse A Bengal.
Speaker 1: That team they lose guys, they don't pay a lot
Speaker 1: of guys. They retool the roster and done a really
Speaker 1: nice job, right, Scooby Wright. And here he goes at
Speaker 1: pick two at seven two fifty. The pick initially belonged
Speaker 1: to the New England Patriots. Scooby Wright. The linebackers had
Speaker 1: some knee issues, am I the same? Similar to what
Speaker 1: Miles Jack has had. He's a marginal athlete. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's just not a very good athlete. And that's similar
Speaker 1: to Tyler Matakavich though, right he just he wins with
Speaker 1: his instincts. He's a very tough player. His sophomore year
Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen is one of the best we've ever
Speaker 1: seen for a college linebacker, right history. I mean, he
Speaker 1: had over one hundred and sixty tackles, almost thirty for loss,
Speaker 1: six forced fumbles, fourteen sacks. As Scooby Wright is just
Speaker 1: a playmaker at the college level. Now, how will he
Speaker 1: translate to the NFL? A lot of question marks, but
Speaker 1: not the type of guy you want to you want
Speaker 1: to bet against his on his Twitter account two stars
Speaker 1: Scooby because that's he was a two star recruit, right,
Speaker 1: and he proved everyone wrong there and again not a
Speaker 1: guy you want to bet against. But here he is
Speaker 1: in the seventh round. We'll see if you can catch
Speaker 1: on in Cleveland. Yeah, that's a pick two fifty. We've
Speaker 1: got three remaining selections until this draft. And unless we
Speaker 1: have some buck guys fly off the board here back
Speaker 1: to back to back, they are not going to set
Speaker 1: the record. Yeah, the the record. Well, let's look at this.
Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns had and and Dane, you were very
Speaker 1: much on. You were adamant about this because of talking
Speaker 1: about the numbers that the Browns, how they play the
Speaker 1: number game, right, fourteen picks in this draft, they're gonna
Speaker 1: do it again next year. They weren't, And that's something
Speaker 1: to do. That's something to do that that has to
Speaker 1: do with the numbers, the way they played sky and
Speaker 1: you play the odds. He played the odds in life,
Speaker 1: you know, and better chances, you know, more players your draft,
Speaker 1: more players you'll hit. That's just how it works. And
Speaker 1: so I think for the for the Browns, I do
Speaker 1: not agree with some of these picks. I think quarterback,
Speaker 1: especially being one of them. Yeah, at the top of
Speaker 1: the list, but they do agree with some of them, um,
Speaker 1: especially Corey Coleman in the first round, the first pick
Speaker 1: in the second round. So, uh, you know, Browns I
Speaker 1: don't think had a great draft. I don't think they
Speaker 1: had a bad draft. I think there's somewhere in the
Speaker 1: middle there. Okay. Well, and while we're talking about that,
Speaker 1: you know, we're we'll, like I say, we got a
Speaker 1: couple more picks left in this draft, and uh talk
Speaker 1: about though the Cowboys draft. What what's gonna be your
Speaker 1: take from this draft for the Dallas Cowboys. You've sat
Speaker 1: here from pick one too soon to be two fifty three.
Speaker 1: You've seen it all, You've heard it all. You've had
Speaker 1: a little bit of chance to you have a chance
Speaker 1: to digest it when you get home. But you you
Speaker 1: live this draft, and what did you think about it? Though?
Speaker 1: You know, the Zeke pick seems like it was two
Speaker 1: weeks ago. You know, so much has happened since, right,
Speaker 1: But you know, he's he's still the prize of this draft.
Speaker 1: You know, he's When we think about the two sixteen
Speaker 1: NFL Draft for the Cowboys, it'll be all about Zeke.
Speaker 1: But you know, looking at what the Cowboys did today, uh,
Speaker 1: picking up a few guys that can possibly round out
Speaker 1: the roster. Yea. They're gonna fight for jobs and training, can't. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, really interested to see what they did in
Speaker 1: the sixth round, adding Arico Gathers adding U you know
Speaker 1: the running back from Eastern Michigan. Some some interesting names there.
Speaker 1: You know, guys that again might not are gonna might
Speaker 1: not be starters this year. You know, they're not gonna
Speaker 1: probably fight for starting reps, but guys that can round
Speaker 1: out a roster. Uh. You know, Charles Tapper is gonna
Speaker 1: be part of that rotation at defense. I'm interested to
Speaker 1: see Charles Tapper because again I've said it a bunch,
Speaker 1: the scheme, and they even talked about it a little
Speaker 1: bit playing and we had Leon let we had Kat
Speaker 1: in here talking about that that was you know, he
Speaker 1: wasn't as asgressive as he and they've talked about him
Speaker 1: being a right end. Right, we'll see that. And I
Speaker 1: asked him. I asked him about it, and we talked
Speaker 1: to him and he said that his best position was
Speaker 1: five technique. Yeah, you know, and he's a head up technique.
Speaker 1: That's not. I mean that's almost like that's all he knows. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a five technique. Let's be honest. It's an extend.
Speaker 1: It's look inside, it's look outside and then to go
Speaker 1: that rounte. Okay, Philadelphi Eagles have turned in their card
Speaker 1: there pick two fifty one. We'll try and finish this
Speaker 1: thing strong for you, guys, We owe it to you
Speaker 1: to do that. Joe Walker, he is a linebacker from Oregon. Now, yeah,
Speaker 1: if Chip Kelly was still in charge with the with
Speaker 1: the Eagles, we'd probably have an idea about a little
Speaker 1: bit more about why they took Joe Walker. Any thoughts
Speaker 1: on him at all. Uh, you know, a player who
Speaker 1: went under underrecruited, had to kind of go to a
Speaker 1: junior college before he went to Oregon. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: the Oregon defense is very porous and not a lot
Speaker 1: of good players. But he was the one guy that
Speaker 1: stood out very productive. Yeah, productive trait right. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: like Joe Walker here. I came up p F A grade,
Speaker 1: but you know I wrote up a report on him
Speaker 1: because I thought, you know, he earned that. H he's
Speaker 1: a solid player here in the seventh round. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: and uh, we've got two more picks to go here.
Speaker 1: Uh at pick two fifty two would be the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 1: And then the final pick of this draft, pick two
Speaker 1: fifty three, is owned by the Tennessee Titans. We'll see
Speaker 1: who the Carolina Panthers in fact, uh at Dane just
Speaker 1: you know, as we kind of get the end some
Speaker 1: names on the board. We we've talked about Cash. There's
Speaker 1: you know, uh something there uh that you know he's
Speaker 1: going to get an opportunity to go in free agency
Speaker 1: unless he's mystery irrelevant uh you know to uh to
Speaker 1: a team. Someone's gonna like him with what he's done.
Speaker 1: The thing with Jeremy Cash, he's schemes specific right unless
Speaker 1: you we've said that, I said, specialized role carved out
Speaker 1: for him. Um, you know he's not going to be
Speaker 1: able to help your team. So now I thought he's
Speaker 1: worth carving out a specialized I did. I did too,
Speaker 1: you know I did too. He's you know the poor
Speaker 1: man's uh Dion Buchanan, that type of situation. But a
Speaker 1: team's gonna get a good player. That's tough, though. That's
Speaker 1: tough because, like I said, I thought watching his tape,
Speaker 1: I saw a very productive football player, and I'm very
Speaker 1: interested now to talk to some people around the league
Speaker 1: and find out exactly why there's injury that we don't
Speaker 1: know about. It's quite possible. Well that's happened before. I mean,
Speaker 1: we remember the Pittsburgh offensive tackle TJ. Clement. It's all
Speaker 1: of a sudden we have first second round grades on
Speaker 1: t J. Clements and then here So the Panthers selection.
Speaker 1: It's always funny looking at the NFL net. Rich Eisen's evolved.
Speaker 1: He's got that look what he has at the combine
Speaker 1: where he's he's fought this battle and now he's got
Speaker 1: his arms crossed it and all that. So the scouts
Speaker 1: are still fighting it out. Okay, the Carolina Panthers select
Speaker 1: Bo Sandlin, who was a tied end from Montana State.
Speaker 1: Well travel started, Juco went to Miami, realized he wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna get playing times, he went to Montana State. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, he's uh got a little bit of Greg
Speaker 1: Olson to him. So I think he's going to a
Speaker 1: good spot there in Carolina where he can learn from Olson.
Speaker 1: Just he's kind of a rocked up receiver, a player
Speaker 1: who's athletic, he tested well, Uh, more of a receiving
Speaker 1: tight end, but he'll get after it as a blocker
Speaker 1: as well. So I'm surprised he lasted this long. And
Speaker 1: I feel like I've said that a lot tonight, no today,
Speaker 1: But he's a good value pick here. Yeah, and so
Speaker 1: that will be okay. Uh, we got one more pick
Speaker 1: to be made with the Tennessee Titans on the clock.
Speaker 1: We'll see, Uh they still do, mister Irrelevant, We'll go
Speaker 1: to the podium when that pick happens. Uh. They the
Speaker 1: Titans started this journey. Take that back. They didn't start this.
Speaker 1: They had the initial pick and then they traded it away.
Speaker 1: So they go from the from the having the first
Speaker 1: pick trading away to a pick they have to make. Uh.
Speaker 1: Now on the clock, they've they're going to try and
Speaker 1: figure this thing out that they're looking at their board saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: who do we not want to fight for in free agency?
Speaker 1: And we'll see who in fact? That is? All right?
Speaker 1: Speaking of free agency, Dane, give me some names that
Speaker 1: maybe fans out there can can take a peek at
Speaker 1: that we might as Twitter starts out late in the night,
Speaker 1: we'll find out some names here, right. I think you're
Speaker 1: looking at Jeremy Cash we just talked about him. Number
Speaker 1: two of my list, Darryl Green, offensive guard from San
Speaker 1: Diego State, the player. This is a player who was
Speaker 1: suspended the first six games fifteen season for failed drug tests.
Speaker 1: I think that's the big reason we're seeing him still available.
Speaker 1: Dominique Robinson H. Robertson from West Georgia, the offensive tackle,
Speaker 1: good player. He started off in Arkansas, did he or no?
Speaker 1: He started off at Texas Juico, Texas Tech. That's right.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Yeah, that's right. That's what He's got his
Speaker 1: own baggage as well, So you know, sensing a theme here.
Speaker 1: Roger lewis another guy right with his own off field issues.
Speaker 1: But then a few surprises. Devon cojuiced wide receiver from Stanford,
Speaker 1: James Cowser Southern Utah ty Vs. Powell is safety from
Speaker 1: Ohio State, Greg Millhouse a defensive tackle from Campbell. I
Speaker 1: know we both liked him, right, Jonathan Jones a corner
Speaker 1: one of my favorite sleepers. Kalin Reid from Southern miss
Speaker 1: a corner. And then Adam Feeny a tight end from
Speaker 1: a Southern Illinois. We both like, Okay, well here we're
Speaker 1: gonna go. We're to get ready to uh go to
Speaker 1: the podium and get the final pick in this draft. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's picked two hundred and fifty three. It belongs to
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans. It looks like everybody is. I thought
Speaker 1: I thought that they were all going to gather and
Speaker 1: see who this was. But I guess. But I agree
Speaker 1: with you on did you see about did you see
Speaker 1: did you talk about? Uh, Poenie? Did you mention him
Speaker 1: at all? Day? He was the last guy mentioned, last guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know it's he's going to be picked up here
Speaker 1: as a priority free agent and he'll get his opportunity. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do. I do like the player. I like Phoenie.
Speaker 1: You talked about Robinson. Uh o'chee is another guy that
Speaker 1: I talked about. Uh, just didn't have the measurables. Didn't
Speaker 1: have the measurables. Stony Brooks gonna have to go another
Speaker 1: year without a draft. Yeah, they they But there's some guys,
Speaker 1: there's some guys down down the line here that there
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some battles in free agency. We talked
Speaker 1: about the odd kid a little bit. Maybe some injury
Speaker 1: history there. Uh yeah, unfortunate with the elbow and the knee.
Speaker 1: Uh we Uh it's uh, it's gonna be uh. We
Speaker 1: I mentioned North, the wide receiver. He was recruited by
Speaker 1: Derek Dooley. Uh, maybe he's a guy that we uh
Speaker 1: did I miss someone did Taj Sharp he was drafting. Okay,
Speaker 1: so yeah, maybe I was talking my I was talking
Speaker 1: way too much and forgot to mark him off my
Speaker 1: sheet right there. But there's some names worth fighting for
Speaker 1: here in free agency. It's gonna be Uh, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a lot of recruiting. It's gonna be Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: getting on the phone. Uh, it's gonna be Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: maybe opening up the checkbook a little bit too. We
Speaker 1: saw it was interesting how how it works. And uh,
Speaker 1: it looks like they're kind of making their way to
Speaker 1: the podium. Kent Garrison one final time. I'm gonna ask
Speaker 1: you to go to the podium and get this final
Speaker 1: pick for us. And so for the final selection of
Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen NFL Draft, Please welcome to the stage
Speaker 1: CEO of Mister Irrelevant Week, Melanie Fitch. She is the
Speaker 1: daughter of the NFL legend the founder of Mister Irrelevant,
Speaker 1: Paul Selata. Melanie, Welcome to the stage. Okay, I get
Speaker 1: a box, I'm a shrimp with the final selection in
Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen NFL Draft and the announcement of mister
Speaker 1: Irrelevant forty one. My dad, Paul Selata's are you in
Speaker 1: Newport Beach getting ready to celebrate mister Irrelevant with a
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty third vick in the twenty sixteen
Speaker 1: NFL Draft the Tennessee Titans. We're excited about you, guys.
Speaker 1: Kaitlyn Read a defensive back from Southern Mississippi. It's gonna go,
Speaker 1: mister Robert forty one. Congratulations, jass Well, I just mentioned
Speaker 1: Kaylyn Reid as one of my favorite players. Who what
Speaker 1: was going on, drafter? But here he is. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's two Southern miss guys. Mike Thomas, we heard his
Speaker 1: name earlier, Kaylin Reid here. I really liked this player.
Speaker 1: He's not mister a relevant or trust me. All right,
Speaker 1: well listen, let me let me ask you this, dame.
Speaker 1: You've done such a great job with us on the
Speaker 1: Draft show. We always appreciate your expertise what you do
Speaker 1: for CBS Sports. One final time, one final pick here,
Speaker 1: give me give me the scouting report on Kayleen Reid,
Speaker 1: Kayla Reid again, as Combine snub who should have been
Speaker 1: there along with this team by Michael Thomas. Undersize a
Speaker 1: little bit. He's under five eleven, under two hundred pounds,
Speaker 1: but he has some jumps to him. I think he
Speaker 1: was over forty yeah, forty one and a half inch
Speaker 1: vert he I think when you talk about production and
Speaker 1: what translates passes defended for defensive backs, really translate this
Speaker 1: geld A twenty three passes defended last year alone as
Speaker 1: a senior. So I think you can be a little
Speaker 1: over eager at times, play a little hands on, but
Speaker 1: he's got explosive traits. He has playmaking instincts. Again, this
Speaker 1: guy is anything but irrelevant. Wow, well that does it.
Speaker 1: That's gonna put a rap on the two thousand and
Speaker 1: sixteen NFL Draft. One final report from a man right there,
Speaker 1: the Beast, Dame Burglar Dane, thank you so much for everything.
Speaker 1: We're gonna we'll get back with you, I think, can't.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have one final draft show, probably do on
Speaker 1: next week. A draft show next week, one final kind
Speaker 1: of tier things up. We got the rooky mini camps
Speaker 1: and stuff happening, and uh, but just want to thank
Speaker 1: everybody out there. For all the falling along h you're
Speaker 1: getting our products all those things. Thank you for all
Speaker 1: your questions, the tweets, the mock drafts, everything that we
Speaker 1: do that we love so much with this NFL draft
Speaker 1: from a man, Dame Brugler, David Hillman for for my
Speaker 1: guys at one oh five three, for Jeff Kavanaugh, KT
Speaker 1: Turner or for Kent Garrison executive producer all this time,
Speaker 1: for Douglas Faircloud for all they've done to put us together.
Speaker 1: I'm Brian brought us. Just thank you so much for
Speaker 1: being out there. Look forward to Dame Bruger's mock draft
Speaker 1: for two thousand and seventeen. We'll be up on Monday morning.
Speaker 1: He'll be up on Monday morning. So everybody out there,
Speaker 1: take care and we'll see you down the road.