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Speaker 1: guess one change could be let's say he does win

426
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Speaker 1: and then doesn't sign with the UFC again and somehow

427
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 1: gets out of his contract and then went and signed

428
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 1: I'm going to make something up with bellet or butt

429
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:26,679
Speaker 1: with boxing on top of it. Maybe that would change

430
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 1: things because someone would be like, I want to purposely

431
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 1: leave the UFC in my prime as champion to pursue

432
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,919
Speaker 1: a more financially lucrative deal outside of them. That would

433
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 1: be unusual. That would send, you know, a shockwave through

434
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 1: the sport. I don't know, but stuff like that could

435
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 1: be powerful. And certainly if he did it and then

436
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 1: another one did it, it could have this accumulative effect.

437
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 1: It could be a real I'm not gonna say butterfly flax,

438
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 1: but a copycat effect. So that would be interesting that

439
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Speaker 1: him electing to do that on his own would be

440
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 1: reflective of a certain kind of change. But but you know,

441
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 1: him just winning and like this creating a shangri la

442
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 1: territory is no, this will not happen. As much as

443
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: I actually want Robert Whittaker to win the rematch, Can

444
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: we get an MK resume review for him next month?

445
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 1: I think we can because it's actually a pretty good

446
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: one to do, in part because we've already actually already done. Izzy.

447
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: I think with the resume review, depending on how someone's

448
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Speaker 1: career could go, there might be two of them for

449
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: one person, like we did, we did Alistair, we did

450
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: Connor like there's another chance we could do Connor later

451
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 1: depending on how things go. But we've not done one

452
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Speaker 1: for Robert Whitaker. I'd be happy to do one Robert Whittaker.

453
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 1: I'd be happy to, you know, for curse or otherwise,

454
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: you know whatever. But uh, I think he's had an

455
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: interesting career. He is a guy who has shown what

456
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 1: it means to be perseveran. I think he's done a

457
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 1: lot of things to advance the game. He put the

458
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Speaker 1: Oceanic region, if not on the map, he did a

459
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: lot to make it part of the territory that it's

460
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: become today in terms of a powerhouse of MMA skill

461
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: and and you know, a very promising future for that area.

462
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 1: He is a major, major, major contributor to that. And

463
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 1: I think is gonna give is he a tough fight

464
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: and certainly a winnable one. Yeah, I'd be happy to

465
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Speaker 1: do one on that. And as I told you guys

466
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Speaker 1: on the show, Boss called me up. I was like, Hey,

467
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 1: we want more of these I was like, okay, all right, sure,

468
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 1: so we've got one coming out on Monday. We got

469
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Speaker 1: one coming out on Monday. Be on the lookout for that.

470
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: And all I know, all the comments, here's the thing,

471
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Speaker 1: all the comments are gonna be I'm blab reb curse,

472
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Speaker 1: do believe in the cars? Blabcurse, you know what I mean.

473
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: It was like, dude, just if you want to believe

474
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: in that nonsense, believe in it. If you don't, don't

475
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: now here to adjudicate that either way. But all I

476
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: am saying is, maybe don't miss the forest for the trees.

477
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: Don't just show up and leave it. If you want

478
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: to leave your comment about oh, here's the curse again.

479
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: We fine. I'm not gonna do anything about it, but

480
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: at a bare minimum, just watch what we have to say.

481
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: This resume review is a little bit different. I think,

482
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: very good, very fun, and just at least watch it.

483
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: That's all I would say. Just watch it. Okay, okay,

484
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 1: all right? From g Evangelista nine, how does Big Francis

485
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 1: do in boxing? Obviously he's less skilled, but he's big, durable,

486
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: and very powerful. Wilder has made it quite far with

487
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Speaker 1: those attributes. Wilder was a gold excuse me, a bronze

488
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Speaker 1: medalist in the Olympics. Now, it is true that Wilder

489
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 1: did make it far under the way in which you've

490
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: described it. Less skilled, big, durable, and very powerful. Yes,

491
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: that is true. However he's done that with only boxing training,

492
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Speaker 1: with boxing habits such as they can be developed later

493
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Speaker 1: in life and worldview. Not that he's going from MMA

494
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Speaker 1: over to boxing. I don't think he would do very well.

495
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: I don't know how his power translates to boxing. It

496
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: might translate quite well, it might not at all. There

497
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 1: is a bit of a difference. I think the cardio

498
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: would be a challenge for him. Is it is any

499
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: big heavyweight you know, Listen, he's maybe the best heavyweight

500
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Speaker 1: on earth in M M A. I don't need him

501
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: to be all that good in boxing. It doesn't. It

502
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: would be amazing, but I don't need I mean just

503
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Speaker 1: doing what he's done. This is the one of the

504
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: weird parts about this question. It's almost like you get

505
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Speaker 1: this guy who is you know what what? Remember it

506
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: was Watson and Krik back in the day who discovered

507
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: the DNA sequence, right, and it was all it was

508
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: the combination of ACG, Was it ACG, M is it

509
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 1: H or D or whatever the fourth one was or gatica,

510
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: so it would be G A C T. That was

511
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Speaker 1: what it was because that was the movie. Where are

512
00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: we going on this? I forgot what else to talking about?

513
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: Oh right. The point being is if they come up

514
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: with this amazing not invention but discovery, right, you don't go, yeah,

515
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: but how good at tennis? Are they? Right? You would

516
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: be like, oh wow, man, just doing what they did

517
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: is already you know, no one no one goes to

518
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: Darwin and is like, hey, I know he's obviously been

519
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: dead for well over one hundred years or whatever the fuck,

520
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: but uh, you know, no one goes like, you know,

521
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: Darwin is pretty amazing for the theory of evolution, but

522
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 1: how good is he at pokemon go? It's really the

523
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: important question here. It's like, dude, probably not that great.

524
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 1: Uh even another or you know, make it like this, like,

525
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: you know, you know, Stephen Hawking did a lot of

526
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: work on wormholes. How was he at another academic discipline,

527
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,719
Speaker 1: English literature? I mean, I'm sure he's competent at it,

528
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: you know, smart as shit. It can't be all that

529
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: bad at it. But that's not It's not his thing.

530
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: That's not what he does. So you know, whenever you're

531
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Speaker 1: at it's like, could he do okay? Probably do okay? Maybe,

532
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: but do I think he'd be like really good? No?

533
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: All right? From official underscore, Phizz besides and Kalaiev, Daryush

534
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: and Phyziev Phyziv. Who do you predict to be first

535
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 1: time headliners in twenty twenty two? Wow, that's a good one. Well,

536
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: those three in particular stand out. Uh, Saryukian he might

537
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: get one. I don't think Rockamanov will get one. I

538
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: don't think he's in that space yet. Saryukian kind of

539
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: might be, depending on how things go. Let's see who

540
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: might get a headlining hmm for the first time. That's

541
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: an interesting one, depending on how things go. Arnold Allen

542
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: is kind of due for one. I don't think he will,

543
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: but I think he's due for one. Man, that's a

544
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: tough one. That's a great question. Andre Munize Maybe he's

545
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: kind of been tearing people up. Holland's got one already,

546
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: so that doesn't count. He get several. Actually, gam Rot

547
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit too early for him. Chamaiav Samaiav

548
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: might get one. Has he had one where he was

549
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: the headliner. I don't think he has, right, I don't

550
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: think he has so Tamaiav's probably a big one. There's

551
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: a few for you right there from Doo Doo Voodoo one.

552
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: Charles Lavera has said he'd jumped to one forty five

553
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: or one seventy if it meant an immediate title shot.

554
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: What chance you give him against Vulk assuming the weight

555
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: is not punishing to him, which is a major If

556
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: I think he gives Vulk problems, I think he'd get

557
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: completely annihilated by Usman. I think Usman is far too big,

558
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: just gonna be way too strong to control. I think

559
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: he's gonna be able to down block on him really well.

560
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna hit him a couple times on

561
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: the feet and rock as shit. Certainly a guy like OLIVERA. Oh,

562
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: someone say, by the way, for a first time headliners,

563
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: Patty the Battie. Yeah, that's a good call. That's a

564
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: good call. Patty the Batty probably might be one as well.

565
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: We'll see. But in terms of Usman, I just think

566
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: he's too strong, too big. Yes, a guy like OLIVERA

567
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: is tricky and could give anybody problems within a reasonable

568
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: amount of weight nearby, but Usman might be a bridge

569
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: too far. Vulk would be an interesting one because the

570
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: length is there, the submission and skills are there. I

571
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: think he could handle the power punching of Volkanovski and

572
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: deliver his own. Obviously, he could create things in terms

573
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: of troubling scenarios for him on the mat. Maybe Volkanowski

574
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: even invites that. That to me would be a very

575
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: interesting fight. Usman. Too much to ask of him from

576
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: at that? Sean Moore, how many BC's would it take

577
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: to overwhelm and in shape and sober? Luke? Well, it

578
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: wasn't sober when I was in my twenties, but I

579
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: was in shape. So let's say I'm like two fifty,

580
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: strong as shit, first class pft. It's about my peak.

581
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: My peak was I was about two forty five to

582
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: forty eight at times, and strong as a motherfucker, probably three.

583
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: The thing is, you know, he just put one on

584
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: his jaw and it's just, you know, it's just a

585
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: whole thing collapses. Right, He's towered, you know, seven when

586
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: it comes to that shit. So it's like, you know,

587
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: just one on the one, one on his face, and

588
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: he's a he's a yeah, he just I mean, if

589
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: I if I told you guys what a girly man

590
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: he was like some of the things. I mean, you

591
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: might lose a little respect. So I'm not gonna say that.

592
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: But suffice to say, unless he got two of him

593
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: on top of me, as long as I had access

594
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,959
Speaker 1: to a jaw in the words of any pass and

595
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: would this bulldog eight nobody live when he when he bark?

596
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: So that to me, all right, let me get a

597
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: few more of your questions in here. It's a lily

598
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: bit about thirty five minutes or so, not even I

599
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: hear it often. But how does fighting a big name

600
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: in the UFC equate to more money? So it would

601
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: depend right. One would be if you get a higher

602
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: placement on the card by virtue of having a bigger

603
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: name opponent, you could get more well venom money now

604
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: but formerly rebock money. It could be a case where

605
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: if you get put into a main event, depending on

606
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: who the opponent is, that could raise your pay. Could

607
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,719
Speaker 1: be that you have destructures in your contracts that you know,

608
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: say you fight someone ranked, you could do it pay

609
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: per viewpoints. There's a lot of mechanisms that they could

610
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: build in where it could do it, but really the

611
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: issue is not necessarily like, oh, I thought one big

612
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Speaker 1: name and everything changed, you know, or even two or

613
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Speaker 1: three big names. It doesn't necessarily change. You still might

614
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: get whatever's on your contract, win, lose, you know, a

615
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: person and bonus and whatever else it is. But what

616
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: it does is it leads to a greater scenario where

617
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: then you know, you're put into a space where you

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00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: only fight on pay per view or whatever. So it's

619
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: not necessarily the case that every time you fight a

620
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: big name opponent it autumn madically results in a bigger paycheck.

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Speaker 1: It may not necessarily, but it could a and be

622
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: it definitely puts you on a path to the kinds

623
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: of opponents and cards where your pay is significantly augmented

624
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: by virtue of some of these clauses that are put

625
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: into these contracts. Who would be a scarier fight Cyril

626
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: gone with Francis and Gon Who's power or Joel Romero

627
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: with Max Holloway's volume and Cardio gone with Francis's power

628
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: Because you have one of the smartest fighters, one of

629
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: the most brutally strong fighters. Joel Romero is you know,

630
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: a good fighter, but I wouldn't put them on the

631
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: level of God in terms of fight IQ and Max Fellow.

632
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,479
Speaker 1: Halloway's volume Mac Cardio is amazing. But again it's the

633
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Speaker 1: it's the I just I don't think folks really understand

634
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: how smart and clever Cyril Gone is. Some of you might, obviously,

635
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: but the broader public. You have just received five hundred

636
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: million dollars from a genie or some other weird character.

637
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: But there's a catch. You have to donate twenty five

638
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: percent to charity. Luke NBC, what charity are you choosing?

639
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: I don't know what charity BC would choose twenty five percent.

640
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: So I have what one hundred and twenty five million

641
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: to give away? How would I split that? I would

642
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: split probably How would I split that? I would probably

643
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: split that between a local charity that works on homelessness

644
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: and food insecurity here in the nation's capital. Probably do

645
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: that something to help working moms, working families they're working poor,

646
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: especially when it comes to children getting food or having

647
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: adequate clothing or something like that, you know, giving me

648
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: an to a food bank or just some kind of

649
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: program that assists people who are in food insecure stages,

650
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: especially for families and again, working parents, and then i'd

651
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: give the other part to. I'd have to figure out

652
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: exactly which one I would want to give it to,

653
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: but probably some kind of veterans' charity that's good about

654
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: putting veterans in job placement programs. I think that's probably

655
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: how I would allot that money. There's a pilot program

656
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: here in the city. As you guys will know, around

657
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: major American cities, there's a lot of problems with homelessness.

658
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 1: It's always been a problem, but it's gotten worse as

659
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: I've gotten older. Hasn't well, yes and no, it's gotten worse,

660
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: but certainly gotten worse of late. It's I mean, you know,

661
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: I don't know what the numbers were in my kids

662
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: in the city, but as I was a kid in

663
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: the city, but it was not awesome, you know. But

664
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: in any case, but there's a couple of pilot programs

665
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: in the city, whether they're trying to put them in

666
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: homes or otherwise through programs that can kind of counsel

667
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: them on their way out. I would like to give

668
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: some money to that. I don't know if those programs

669
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: work or not. We'll have to see, but hopefully they do.

670
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: What are some of your favorite muay Thai and kickboxing

671
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: matches of all time. You know, candidly, I've not been

672
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,720
Speaker 1: the biggest kickboxing fan, and I would be majorly speaking

673
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: out of my depth if I told you about some

674
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: of my favorite muy Thai fights of all the combat sports.

675
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: And I want to be very clear about this. I

676
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: do like muy Thai. I've been to Muytai fights. I've

677
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: paid tickets as a spectator just to go watch them.

678
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 1: Same for you know, kickboxing, and I worked for glory

679
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: like I like it. Please don't misunderstand me, But I've

680
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: never been a huge fan, and so as a consequence,

681
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: I've never been much of a you know, a scholar

682
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: or even you know, reasonably articulate about kickboxing history or

683
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: you know, who really stands out. I mean, I know

684
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: some of the basics about the Lampini Stadium and RGI

685
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: dominant and things like that, but that I just and

686
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: I know who Scian Chai is and a lot of

687
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: other the sort of the more celebrated Multai figures. But

688
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: I like kickboxing in in doses, you know, I think

689
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: some of the best, what was the best? There was

690
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: one Mike Zambidas fight that I saw who the fuck

691
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: did he fight? That was just an absence. There was

692
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 1: one fight Mike Sambidas fought someone I think an Egyptian guy,

693
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: and they fucking killed each other. That was a good one.

694
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: And then there was one with God who was he fighting?

695
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: It was Artur Kashenko? Was it Nikki Holdskin? I don't

696
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 1: think that's right. He was fighting someone and it was

697
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: I mean, these fucking guys were killing each other those two.

698
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,439
Speaker 1: Even though I can't remember the full opponent's names, those two,

699
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: I can see the fights in my head. I can

700
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: see the ring, I can see everything. Those two kind

701
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: of stand out. But I'm afraid to tell you that,

702
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 1: Like you know, I gotta be honest about my limits,

703
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: I just don't know enough to really tell you a

704
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: whole lot. If you could give or take away a

705
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: skill or ability of any MMA fighter, that would have

706
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: made a fight more interesting or a division more interesting.

707
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: Who is that fighter and what is the skill ability?

708
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: I will tell you this. I wonder what would have

709
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: happened if John Jones didn't quite have the wrestling domination

710
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: that he had early in his run, If you guys

711
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: have not like gone back and watched him around UFC

712
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: one hundred or before or you know, even like in

713
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: the Brandon verified or matt Ushenko do he was taking

714
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: these guys down who had good MMA wrestling like it

715
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: was nothing like, it was absolutely nothing like it was

716
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: child's play. And so he had, you know, limited striking

717
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: at that time, but good enough to win obviously. But

718
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 1: he had such I mean, he didn't just have dominant wrestling.

719
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: He had like an ace in the whole wrestling, where like,

720
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: if he wanted to take you down, bitch, you are

721
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: going to the floor. You know. I not that I

722
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: like need to see him lose, but I wonder what

723
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: would have happened if that ability had been somewhat mitigated.

724
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 1: To what extent does that change his fortunes? Does he

725
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: level up on striking even faster because his fight IQ

726
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: is so great? Does he sort of regress and become

727
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: a more ordinary fighter? Probably to an extent. There's a

728
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: lot of things you have to ask yourself about that,

729
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm not wishing for this, Like those

730
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: things happen and he earned them and that's just the

731
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: way things go. But it was you know, sometimes you

732
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: see these abilities that these guys have and it just

733
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: stands out in such stark conscious Now that has changed

734
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: of late, I don't think he enjoys the same wrestling

735
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: dominance he once did, not even close actually, but there

736
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: was a moment in time where it was absolutely lights out,

737
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: no questions asked. Once he got it, you were going

738
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: and it was overwhelming. What happens when you take that

739
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: overwhelming skill that's lording over a division and what does

740
00:39:52,520 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: that change? You know, hypothetically speaking, Henry Shudo and defeats

741
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: Volkanovsky for the featherweight title, where would he rank among

742
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: the greatest of all times? See, that's a really interesting

743
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: one that gets back to the heart of the debate

744
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: we've been having for many many years at this point,

745
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: which is, you know, how do you measure greatness? Here

746
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: would be a case where he didn't slog through all

747
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: of the divisions in which he held titles, although obviously

748
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: in some cases he did, but certainly in the featherweight

749
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: case he would not have. But he would have gone up

750
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 1: there and done it. I have maintained. I have maintained

751
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: that I think that what Saint Pierre did and what

752
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 1: Silva did, and Demetrius Johnson and John Jones have done

753
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 1: is the hardest thing to do. Stand a post, accept

754
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: challengers and then just see how things go. That's a

755
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: tough way to make a living, but it's a very

756
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 1: very clarifying way to fight, because if you can do that,

757
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: you can I don't know what would be harder. Still

758
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: showing up on one night, well easier right than you know,

759
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: seven eight nine fights, burning your way through contenders and

760
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: then getting into the title. It's still it would be

761
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: such a dramatic one night I don't know that would

762
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: put him best of all time, but certainly, like you know,

763
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: who can fight up to the challenge. Who's who who

764
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: can raise his game when he needs to, It'd be

765
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: Henry Seuhuddo. But you know, it's funny, if he beat Volkanovsky,

766
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: he might go back to one thirty five and then

767
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: lose his very next fight. Like I don't, I don't

768
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: actually believe that he's the best fighter in those weight classes.

769
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: Well maybe at flyweight and Bantaway that's certainly a flyweight.

770
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: It's possible. Well even then, I'm not sure anymore, but

771
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 1: you get the idea, like you can you do certainly

772
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: a harder argument to make for him, but like do

773
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 1: I think he could get it? Done on the right night.

774
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: I do you know he's he's very very talented, obviously,

775
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: So if you got those belts, but you don't have

776
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: some of the other you know, Yeoman's work that kind

777
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: of goes into it. Can you really say you're the

778
00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: grace of all time? That'd be the That'd be a

779
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: very obviously unique and singular achievement. I'd have to see,

780
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: you know, if he did it or it wasn't like

781
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: a flute ko but he just kind of like like

782
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: beat the fuck out of Volkanowski. He didn't know what

783
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: was coming to him over the course of five rounds.

784
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 1: I might say he's the best ever, but he would

785
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: have to do that. What rule change, if any, can

786
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: you see happening in the foreseeable future that would have

787
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 1: a noticeable impact on the game? Open scoring? Open scoring

788
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: commissions are already trying it. You're seeing it in Invicta

789
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: in Kansas, places like Colorado is now playing with other

790
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: rule sets, not just open scoring, but you know, other

791
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: kinds of rule sets, and there is at least some

792
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: demand for it. I don't think it'll be universal. I

793
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: don't think it will gain tremendous leverage between now and

794
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck. But that is something that is going

795
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: to be more prominent in the next five years than

796
00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 1: it has been in the last for sure. Let's see.

797
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 1: Do you think Francis could be the catalyst to fighters unionizing? No,

798
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: not even a little bit. Tyler from the four to

799
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: twelve Here, any chance you guys can do more morning

800
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: combat classics? I love the one about Vazquez and the

801
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: Marquez trilogy. Also, any chance BC could do more boxing stuff.

802
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: I'm here for the boxing coverage. Yeah, dude, We're all

803
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 1: too happy to do more boxing coverage. I think we

804
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: might do one of the classics again, but we want

805
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: to do it in studio. Like in studio, it's just

806
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: there's just no comparison. Heaviest band BC listens to and

807
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: then softest band. Luke listens to the softest band. I mean,

808
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: I've heard Simon and Garfunkle. Does that count? I'd probably say,

809
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: Like in terms of concerts, I went to like this

810
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: Paul McCartney, but I got free tickets for that, so

811
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: it doesn't count. I've paid for I've paid for Rodrigo

812
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: I Gabriella, and I've paid for Jose Gonzalez. Jose Gonzalez

813
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: is I think he's Latin, but he's actually Swedish or

814
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 1: lives in Sweden. And he has this real soft, kind

815
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: of petaled, flowery music. He's like a little Elliott smith Ish.

816
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: I like him a lot. I've paid tickets, paid paid

817
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 1: for tickets to see him. He's amazing. I saw him

818
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: at the nine to thirty Club. As a matter of fact,

819
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 1: he fucking rocked, So shouts to him for BC. Probably

820
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: what's the heaviest band he's ever listened to, Spice Girls,

821
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: something like that. Bro. I literally got in his fucking car.

822
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: I'm not exaggerating. He had on some dude just jamming

823
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: to the sitar for seventeen minutes. Just that's the shit

824
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: he likes. Where do you two see yourselves in five years?

825
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: We actually had that conversation this past week. We actually

826
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: had that conversation this past week. I'm not gonna tell you,

827
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: but I can tell you that he and I talked

828
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: about it. Could you guys include some coverage of one

829
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: in your channel? Yes? Yes, I know they had an

830
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: event today, but not a very good one, so we

831
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: ignored it. Can you educate me on David Benavidez. I

832
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: think he's a solid fighter but I'm just not seeing

833
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 1: what everyone else is seeing. It's the idea that he's

834
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: got a great chin, he has great hand speed, he's

835
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 1: a very very clever tactician. He's big for the weight class,

836
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,959
Speaker 1: he's not super bricked up, and he's made a fuck

837
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: ton of errors in his life. Whether it's recreational drugs

838
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: that messed him up, or whether it's weight issues or whatever.

839
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: He has not been as dialed in and confidence inspiring

840
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: as maybe he should or could have been. I recognize that,

841
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: but what I would say is when you watch him operate, dude,

842
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 1: he can play the levels. You want to brawl, he

843
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: can brawl. You want to box a range, he can

844
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: box a range. You want to go fast paced, head

845
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: to head, phone booth, he can do that too. He

846
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: could play all the levels. He's got good power, high volume,

847
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: highly accurate, highly technical. He is somebody for those reasons.

848
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: You can just watch him be like dude. He can

849
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: give people problems. The reason why you don't think that

850
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: is because he hasn't had a super big fight and

851
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: quite some time he's been on showtime. He's been some

852
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: good fights, but he hasn't had You know, he's he's

853
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: looking for that Charlo or Canelo opponent, because that's just

854
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: not who he's been fighting, and uh, you know, losing it.

855
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: I mean, the first time I covered Benavidez for Showtime,

856
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: he lost his fucking belt on the scales, you know.

857
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: And now the granted that was the first fight during

858
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 1: the pandemic and they didn't have access to the sauna

859
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: and it was a whole thing. He didn't do that

860
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: for a subsequent fight for Showtime, so you know, it's

861
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: not like it's a constant thing. But there's just been

862
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: enough of the of the of the issues he's had

863
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: that have that have given people pause. And I understand that,

864
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: but I think when you you want to think of

865
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: him as like what could listen when you fight Canelo?

866
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: The proverbial you those guys on that night. Sometimes they

867
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: show up and sometimes they don't, but the vast majority

868
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: of them have the very best fight they more or

869
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: less could have gotten. There's a couple of mean Danny

870
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: Jacobs you could maybe say, could have done things a

871
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: little bit differently, but a lot of them, you know,

872
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: you look at him like, y, what would Caleb Plant

873
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: have done differently? Yeah, he could have had a different strategy,

874
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: I mean, what could he have done differently that would

875
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: have had that would have yielded him with his skill sets,

876
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 1: his frame on that night? What could he have done

877
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: differently that would have yielded him greater results? The answer

878
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: is not much. The answer is not much. I think

879
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: David Benavidez, when he rises to the occasion and maximizes

880
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,959
Speaker 1: his potential, I think he is a very real threat

881
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: to anyone in that way. Class. Have you, guys, ever

882
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: considered editing out of the podcast? Have you seen this shit? So?

883
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: I used to If you guys, remember when I hosted

884
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: MMA Hour for the one year that I did it,

885
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 1: I would open the show with Monday Morning Analyst. I

886
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: would do that for thirty minutes. They actually cut that

887
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: from the It made that a YouTube exclusive. We might

888
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: we might do? You foresee heavier attention on UFC fighters

889
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: unionizing or is it going to be the same problem

890
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: of getting a majority of the fighter's degree as well

891
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: as move together folks. I lived through Project Spearhead trying

892
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: to do what they're doing. I lived through who was

893
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: the baseball agent who came through what was his name?

894
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: He tried to start the PBA or the PFA, The

895
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: Professional Fighters Association. I lived through the double M, TRIPLEA.

896
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,720
Speaker 1: I watched all of these things get erected and then fall.

897
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 1: I watched all of them. I don't know what the

898
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: issue is. You'd have to talk to somebody who was

899
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: trying to get the cards signed for unionizing. Right, you

900
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 1: get a certain percentage of the employee or the independent

901
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: contractors at a place to sign, they can become eligible

902
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: for unionizing, and then once they do, everyone is eligible

903
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: to join at that point. But you get the idea.

904
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: What I'm trying to say is, I saw that was

905
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: it Scott Boyd Boris or his brother? It was one

906
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: that was one of the Boris brothers or whoever it was,

907
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 1: who did the PFA did? I remember this vividly, vividly.

908
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: There was a ton of attention on it, and it

909
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 1: did nothing. ESPN ends up being actually something of a

910
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: camouflage agent for the UFC, right, because the because you know,

911
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: it's interesting. Here's what I don't understand about ESPN. Right,

912
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: here's what it makes no sense to me about them.

913
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 1: On the one hand, they've got this whole cadre of

914
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 1: talking heads, pundits, whatever. I'm not sure all the things

915
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: that they do like Sarah Spain, and you know, there's

916
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: a bunch of them like that where they're like, they're

917
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 1: like super into you know, the sort of the woke debate, right,

918
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: and then when it comes to some of the excesses

919
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: of what's happening in UFC, they don't ever pay attention.

920
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: Why do I bring this up because what I have

921
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: noticed is that folks thought that when UFC signed with ESPN,

922
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: that that would act as this kind of disinfectant agent. Right. Oh,

923
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,439
Speaker 1: now UFC is partnering with Disney, they have to clean

924
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: up their act. And actually it's the opposite. Not that

925
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: UFC is some kind of you know, atrociously dirty business

926
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: or something. But I don't mean that. What I mean

927
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 1: to say is it's the inverse of that. It is

928
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: actually that the UFC's relationship to ESPN makes people think

929
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 1: that there are no questions to be asked. Now, maybe

930
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: internally ESPN has told your Bomani Joneses and your Sarah

931
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 1: Spain's and your Pablo Torres and your whoever that they're

932
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: not allowed to talk about UFC or negatively, or I

933
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: don't know. I do know that ESPN tells its employees

934
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: that they can't say certain things all the time. It's

935
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: quite common. ESPN employees have been telling me this for

936
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: a long time. So everyone's like, oh, wow, the lights

937
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 1: have never been brighter on UFC, which is true and whatnot.

938
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 1: But look, dude, like, just look at the reality. They're

939
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: making more money than ever. They have a broadcast partner

940
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: that makes people think everything is above board and normal.

941
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: The casual fans either don't know or don't care. And

942
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 1: you might say, okay, yeah, but now's the perfect time

943
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: to get a union push in. Maybe it is, but

944
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 1: I will resort to the idea that I will believe

945
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: that when I see it, I think the fighters. My hunch,

946
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: I don't really know this, but my hunch basically talking

947
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: to some folks is that some just have Stockholm syndrome.

948
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 1: They actually believe that they're going to win the lottery,

949
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: and so why risk it, you know, as they see

950
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 1: it anyway. The other one is they're a little bit

951
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: tied to a political worldview that makes them think unionization

952
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 1: is either bad or something that they would never want

953
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: to be a part of. I don't know what you

954
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,919
Speaker 1: do about that. Others actually really like the unionization. In fact,

955
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: what I've heard is that most people are quite supportive

956
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: in theory. Excuse me, I've been talking a lot, but

957
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 1: they are worried if they sign one of the cards

958
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: to get unionized, that they will get outed by UFC

959
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: and it will destroy their relationship, or it will hurt

960
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: the business and therefore trickle down to them and hurt them,

961
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: and it's just not really worth it, And you know,

962
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: do I really need a union that kind of thing.

963
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: So to me, it's a bigger issue of this cognitive

964
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: myopia that a lot of the fighters have, and you know,

965
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: their fear of signing I think, is I understand it,

966
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: but I would you know, you would hope that they

967
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: would eventually overcome it. I don't think that they will.

968
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: I think the only way this industry changes is through

969
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: legislation or the court case. That's it. I don't think

970
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: anything else does it. Let's see what is the end

971
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: goal for MK? Would you guys want a half hour

972
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: show on ESPN or one of the other networks? Why

973
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 1: would I want to go any other place than Showtime?

974
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: What do you guys see next for MK? If everything

975
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: goes perfect? It's a great question, I don't I mean,

976
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 1: we have some things that we're looking at again. I'm

977
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 1: going to keep secret. I think the one thing I

978
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: had said that I will articulate to you guys, at

979
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: least for twenty twenty two is, you know, again to

980
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: the extent that things are feasible. I don't want to

981
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: make any demands of my employer in ways that i'm

982
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: not allowed to, or you know, ask for things I'll

983
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: never get. But I do think it's possible and something

984
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: I want to push for. I think that the post

985
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 1: fight stuff that me and BC do when we're on location,

986
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: certainly for stuff Showtimes involved with, you know, i'd like

987
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: to see that if possible, and maybe it's not, but

988
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: if possible, i'd to see that take on a bit

989
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: of a bigger role and you know, perhaps be you know,

990
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: just a bigger part of the overall showtime experience. I

991
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: don't know that that will happen, and if it doesn't,

992
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: then I can't complain about it to anybody, because you know,

993
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: here I am with an opportunity to shape my own reality.

994
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: But it would be nice if something like that happened.

995
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: But I have to work for it, and I have

996
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:50,959
Speaker 1: to earn it, and so we'll see. Should the UFC

997
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: try to say, what kind of ask what stops the

998
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,280
Speaker 1: UFC from expanding rules in a favorable place like Nevada,

999
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 1: where it's more likely knees in the ground, soccer kicks,

1000
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 1: et cetera. During the pandemic, nearly all fights are happening there.

1001
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 1: Incongruity in rules already exist between the say athletic commissions anyway,

1002
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: can lead the charge. So the reason why they probably

1003
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: don't is that, again, this is the thing I've said

1004
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: a few times. Everyone will say that like running towards

1005
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: regulation in the early days when the UFC purchased part

1006
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: of the ZUFA myth. But as it stands anyway, as

1007
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 1: it stated, they didn't run away from regulation, they ran

1008
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: towards it. Of course, the realities they were running towards

1009
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 1: regulation prior to that, but whatever, And that sounds like

1010
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: a very effective talking point, like, wow, we ran towards regulation,

1011
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,720
Speaker 1: like come regulate us. But what that ends up doing?

1012
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: And I don't think UFC had a choice, to be

1013
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: honest with you like that. It was either that or

1014
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: go out of business. I mean, at that point, you

1015
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 1: just do what you have to do. But what I'm

1016
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: trying to get at here is that when you enshrine

1017
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: rule making with a state government entity, you are enshrining

1018
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 1: a bureaucratic, difficult to change in any direction process. So

1019
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: the reason why I think that they don't is that

1020
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: unless it is absolutely egregious and cannot be you cannot

1021
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: imagine a way of going forward without it. I don't

1022
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: think they want to mess with the rules. They don't

1023
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 1: want to mess with them because once you mess with them,

1024
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: how are you gonna get it unfucked? Just to get

1025
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: the rule change, they would have to go before the commission,

1026
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: They have to make an argument. They would probably have

1027
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 1: to submit evidence, which means they have to collect it,

1028
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: they have to do blah blah blah. There might be

1029
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 1: a trial basis. It would be a huge thing. They

1030
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: might be able to do it. In fact, I'm sure

1031
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 1: that the Vegas Commission would be as I should say,

1032
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: Nevada Commission would be as you know, lenient as you

1033
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 1: could imagine them being, especially if the rule change was

1034
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: like really important. But once you've changed it, now you

1035
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: have to go back. If you decide, oh, it's actually

1036
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: fucked up the game a little bit, now you have

1037
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: to go back to them and say, Okay, actually, you

1038
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: know what we change our minds. You know, it's just

1039
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 1: a shitload of work for something you didn't have to

1040
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: do to begin with. You can kind of just say, well,

1041
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: the rules aren't perfect and judging is not great, but

1042
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 1: you know, I mean more, or let's got a workable

1043
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: thing here, let's just leave it alone. I tend to

1044
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: think that's what it is, dude. I was there, Like

1045
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: why I covered it when the UFC was going. Obviously

1046
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: they had already reached a certain place even before I

1047
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: even watched it. Larry Hazard had regulated whether it's before

1048
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: see Athletic Comission, I think two thousand and two thousand

1049
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: and one, before the new Jersey State Athletic Control Board,

1050
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: So it happened before. But I distinctly remember around seven

1051
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 1: eight before UFC one hundred, Dude. UFC was going to

1052
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: every state they could, and if they didn't have a commission,

1053
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: was lobbing them to create one. I remember in Tennessee,

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00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: for example. Tennessee did not have a state Athletic commission

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00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: prior to the UFC, certainly not for the MMA side

1056
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: of things. They may have had one for boxing, but

1057
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 1: they didn't have one on the MMA side of things.

1058
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: They had to go there and make them establish all

1059
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: of this so that they could regulate other things and

1060
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: do it properly. Because remember MMA was taking place in

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00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: that state. It was just going unregulated, like there was

1062
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: nothing to it. It's like Delta eight. MMA was like

1063
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: Delta eight back in the day. It was like legal

1064
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 1: just because you know technicality basically. So so I remember

1065
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: when they did all of this. I remember when they

1066
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: went place to place. Dude to then go and be like,

1067
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: oh we goof this rule is actually fucked? Is it'd

1068
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: be a mess? What I have been recommending for years

1069
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: is the opposite. Now with COVID, everything has changed, But

1070
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: I've been making this argument since twenty sixteen or even before. Dude,

1071
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: you can go to Singapore or someplace in Europe or

1072
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: whatever and you can self regulate. If you can self regulate,

1073
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: that means you can introduce the changes that you want

1074
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: to see and no one can do anything to stop you. Now,

1075
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting you, oh, let's fight to the death.

1076
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, but try. People always asked, is

1077
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: open scoring good? I don't know. Let's see some evidence

1078
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: of it. How about taking a point from someone on

1079
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: around because they fucked up away in Right, we have

1080
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: evidence from Brazil, from Garmy Cruz that has some positive

1081
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: results for that organization. What results does it have for UFC?

1082
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: That is a laboratory and laboratory conditions anyway, under which

1083
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: you could test these things to see if they actually

1084
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: do good for your business or your product, and then

1085
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: if they do or they don't, you take that information

1086
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: back to you and then you lobby the Athletic Commission.

1087
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: The whole idea behind lobbying the Athletic Commission is that

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00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: that's the thing you want to go to when you're ready,

1089
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: when it has to happen. Right. They did have to

1090
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: run towards regulation, there was no other choice. But if

1091
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: you've got places where you don't have to do that,

1092
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: and you've got almost six hundred fighters under contract, man,

1093
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: fucking play with the rules a little bit. Let's see

1094
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: some conspiracy theory questions. Good one, How long until we

1095
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: see a Georgian UFC champ got to be within the

1096
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: next three four years? Right, if not less than that.

1097
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: Those guys are headed towards the top of the food chain.

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00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: What is your preference for the new Washington football team nickname? Man?

1099
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: Fuck that team? Well, I like the team, but fuck

1100
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: that organization. I can't stand them. I can't stand Dan Snyder.

1101
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,919
Speaker 1: I hate his guts, I hate everything about him. He's

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00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: the worst. I liked anything with the term red in it.

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00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: I liked. My number one choice was Red Wolves. Of course,

1104
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: of course, the Skins come out or whatever the fuck

1105
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: they're called. The Washington football team comes out ahead of

1106
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: time and says, well, we're not gonna go with that one.

1107
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: We'll go with some of the one of the other ones,

1108
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 1: We're not going with that one. And so the other

1109
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: ones are admirals, shitty armada, terrible commanders, shitty brigade, shitty presidents,

1110
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 1: just the can you imagine fucking Washington presidents get it, eh, eh,

1111
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: get it? Po like it's just the worst shit ever.

1112
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: And that means they probably will go with that. I've

1113
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 1: seen a couple of different ones leak and then Red

1114
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: Howgs was one. I like that one as well. BC

1115
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: ruins it for everyone because he's got, you know, the

1116
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: mind of a Durbbil And then and then red Wolves.

1117
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 1: Red Wolves was the one I thought was the best.

1118
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: But you know, we can't. I don't think red Wolves

1119
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: is like some amazing name, but if the choices are

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Speaker 1: commanders armat Armada. Armada is Spanish for navy, the Washington Navy.

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01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: The fuck kind of a name is that? This is

1122
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: the fucking Washington Air Force. You mean, like the actual

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01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: air force. No, it is the football team. Oh oh,

1124
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: you're just a fucking idiot. That's okay, all right, I

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01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 1: get it. Francis Ngan, who has a better resume at

1126
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: heavyweight than DC. It's probably true. How much stock should

1127
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: we actually put into Burns versus Hamzad Not right now,

1128
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 1: but it could be some in time. My take on

1129
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 1: the pay per view price hike probably an ESPN decision,

1130
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: not a UFC decision, one that they're allowed to make,

1131
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:15,959
Speaker 1: one where the UFC will probably benefit. I don't quite

1132
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: know why ESPN is doing it. They want to raise

1133
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 1: money for whatever reason. Internally, I think that the fans

1134
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: will do a lot of complaining. I do think it

1135
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 1: will turn some people into hardcore pirates, but I think

1136
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,439
Speaker 1: in general, whatever trade off there is in terms of

1137
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 1: how much this contributes to piracy, it will contribute more

1138
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 1: to their bottom line, which is why they're going to

1139
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 1: do it. I think a lot of people complaining are

1140
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 1: actually not telling the truth. Not to themselves and not

1141
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: to the public. There's a lot of you who are like, oh,

1142
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: never buy it again. I don't believe that. I don't

1143
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 1: believe that at all. Every time they raise I remember

1144
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 1: when UFC prices were forty five dollars forty five for HD.

1145
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: I remember that. You know what was that two thousand

1146
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: and four something like that. I think I ordered it

1147
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 1: was the USA versus Canada. I was the first GSP

1148
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 1: versus bjpen fight. It was a USA Canada card and

1149
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 1: I remember I think that one was like forty five bucks.

1150
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 1: And okay. So the point being is every time they

1151
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 1: raise the price, every time people are like, oh, I'll

1152
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: never buy it again, and they just keep buying. In fact,

1153
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: you know, you have to pay five bucks to get

1154
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: ESPN plus and it was seventy before this, right, that

1155
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 1: should have been one of those ones where it's like, oh,

1156
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 1: I'm never doing that. And now they're making more money

1157
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 1: than ever, and they're selling more in terms of the

1158
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: overall not just dollar amount that they get back, but

1159
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: the price on the excuse me, the amount of pay

1160
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: per views that they sell has gone up. They had

1161
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: their best year ever. So understand that this past year

1162
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 1: was a record price with an additional five dollars search

1163
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 1: tax sir charge, excuse me on top of it, and

1164
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: they had their best numbers ever. So like again, I

1165
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: want to make sure everyone stands this. There's gonna be

1166
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 1: a bunch of people that are like, I'm never gonna

1167
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: pay this. This is abysmal. He's gonna hurt the business.

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01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: It will do nothing but make the business. Richard, Let's see,

1169
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 1: let's see, let's see. I'll do a few more of

1170
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 1: these thoughts on the Taporia versus Jordayane fight next week.

1171
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 1: And I saw I saw Air Jordana come on on

1172
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: Twitter and say he wanted the fight. Got guts on

1173
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 1: that dude, super big guts, love it. Jordaane is a

1174
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 1: guy or Jordanaia is a guy who's got real good ability.

1175
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's got the fire power of Toporio.

1176
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: We'll have to see. But I love his guts. I

1177
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 1: love the last win that he had. He's betting on himself.

1178
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 1: He's a talented guy. Let's see, let's see what he

1179
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 1: can do. Love it. Love everything about what Air Jordas

1180
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 1: had to say there or had to is trying anyway.

1181
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: I know your thoughts on ped usage, Luke and agree,

1182
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 1: But how would you address the grievances of fighters like

1183
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 1: Mark hunt Well. I don't know about all of his

1184
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 1: various grievances, but I remember where he lost the court

1185
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 1: case where he sued UFC and then sued brock lesnar

1186
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 1: or related to UFC two hundred testing positive. And what

1187
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 1: he had argued before the court was that, you know,

1188
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 1: if you're a brock Lesner, you agree under the terms

1189
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: of competition to not use and USADA, you know, UH

1190
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 1: tested them but didn't have the results ready, so you know,

1191
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 1: what are they doing? Is that? Is that negligent? And

1192
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 1: he had argued that he did not have to assume

1193
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 1: that there was a chance that his opponent could be

1194
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: on anything, and the judge disagreed. The judge was like,

1195
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 1: of course, it is rational to at least assume there

1196
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 1: is a risk of this guy or any opponent using

1197
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 1: and whatnot. You have to at least assume that despite

1198
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 1: every attempt from any organization to screen this, some of

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01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 1: it might get through. So like the idea that you're

1200
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: because I think the idea was if they had reason

1201
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 1: to believe he was using or something like that, then

1202
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 1: they were in violation of their contract, the terms of

1203
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 1: the fight contract, and the judge really disagree. The judge

1204
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, if you do the steps that you're

1205
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 1: supposed to do, even with that, you have to at

1206
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 1: least assume your opponent could be on And so for

1207
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: those reasons they disagreed with him and he lost his case.

1208
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 1: I think that's right. Do you have Yes, you should

1209
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 1: be you know, if you are a athlete who doesn't

1210
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 1: want to use, and you want to compete against other

1211
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 1: athletes who don't want to use, and you want to

1212
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 1: compete against other athletes who don't want to use in

1213
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 1: an organization that doesn't want its athletes to use, you know,

1214
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 1: it should be a world where you live in where

1215
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 1: you don't have to assume that your opponent may or

1216
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 1: may not be on it. But that's just not the

1217
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: real world. It's not Earth, it's not our life, it's

1218
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:40,919
Speaker 1: not reality. It was a weak argument to make. Now

1219
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 1: that's a separate question from whether or not you know

1220
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:47,959
Speaker 1: the are the attempts at you know, as you said,

1221
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 1: a diligent enough is you know, did Brock obtain a

1222
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 1: huge benefit from the drugs he was taking or whatever?

1223
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 1: These are all important questions that make Mark Hunt's situation

1224
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 1: quite difficult. But you know when you fought pd abusers

1225
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 1: before and never said anything. You know, again, maybe he

1226
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 1: had a change in his career and his view changed,

1227
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: but the argument he made in court about Brock was weak.

1228
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 1: And then you know, he's had a history of fighting

1229
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 1: and beating many ped users. It's a you know, and

1230
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 1: then you know he claims it like he's been black

1231
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 1: ball but like, you know, which that sucks. I don't

1232
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:22,919
Speaker 1: want to see him black ball. I wish he could

1233
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 1: get a fight obviously, But like if you sue a

1234
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: promoter under the argument that they had a responsibility to

1235
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: make sure that there's never a case where any opponent

1236
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 1: he ever fights, ever has any peds in the system,

1237
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 1: and anything short of that is a violation of the

1238
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 1: fighter contract. Yeah, I would imagine a lot of promoters

1239
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 1: might be hesitant to do business with you. You know, you

1240
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 1: have to understand the nature of the UFC can afford lawyers.

1241
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,439
Speaker 1: Some of these other smaller promoters can't afford that shit

1242
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 1: and don't want to pay for it. So they're just like,

1243
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 1: fuck it, it's not worth a headache. You know what,

1244
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 1: if they have what if they sign a guy, they

1245
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 1: try to make sure he's not on anything, and he is.

1246
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 1: You know, what are they supposed to do? Are they

1247
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 1: going to get sued? Like? Who wants to run that risk?

1248
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 1: Is BC leaving you for the fighter and the kid? Yes?

1249
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is a lot of questions

1250
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 1: about PF changs. All right, this dude is gonna get muted?

1251
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 1: Uh luke, what do you think with prices going up

1252
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 1: literally every year to be a UFC fan will do

1253
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 1: to other promotions getting more exposure as well as more

1254
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 1: UFC fans most likely will pirate that ship. Now, I

1255
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 1: don't think so. No, I don't think so. I don't

1256
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 1: think so. I will say that MMA fans get screwed

1257
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 1: because you know, most sports fans just need basic cable

1258
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 1: and they can watch any of their teams, you know,

1259
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 1: something of an exaggeration, but pretty close here in the

1260
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 1: United States anyway. And then with MMA, you gotta pay.

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Speaker 1: You know, you gotta pay for Beltur, you gotta pay

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Speaker 1: for UFC, You gotta pay for almost any version of

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Speaker 1: UFC almost hardly any of it is on basic cable.

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Speaker 1: You gotta have at least ESPN plus. You know, PFL

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Speaker 1: you get, you get that with the basic cable, but

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Speaker 1: some of that, you know, not even the case. You know.

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Speaker 1: So it's like MMA fans. They get asked to do

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Speaker 1: a lot, they get pulled in a lot of different directions,

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Speaker 1: they get they get banged up. So I understand the frustration.

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Speaker 1: The frustration is real, and I do think some people

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Speaker 1: will be turned from that to piracy. But I'm just

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Speaker 1: telling you, every time I've seen this complaint from folks,

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Speaker 1: it has never resulted in the reality that they said

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Speaker 1: would materialize, which is that at that point the UFC

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Speaker 1: will have tipped the scales and there will be not

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Speaker 1: just more piracy, but that the Jews will no longer

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Speaker 1: be worth the squeeze to sell it that way. And

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Speaker 1: if anything has happened in that time, it's the opposite.

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Speaker 1: I remember when UFC and Dana why So does to

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Speaker 1: an extent when they would like really go after pirates.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you're really concerned about pirates, would you

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Speaker 1: raise your cost just since twenty nineteen twenty five percent

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Speaker 1: If you really concern man, piracy is fucking us, Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's raise our prices. I'm not saying that the UFC

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Speaker 1: doesn't suffer real material losses as a consequence of piracy.

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Speaker 1: There isn't a doubt in my mind they do one

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Speaker 1: thousand percent. They probably lost millions of dollars around piracy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just don't think there's any argument about that.

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Speaker 1: But is it so cancerous to their business that they

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Speaker 1: can't survive or do well? Dude, they're not surviving. They're

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Speaker 1: not doing well. They are killing it. That's why they

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Speaker 1: feel like they can raise their prices, or at least

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Speaker 1: ESPN does for whatever reasons they may have on top

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Speaker 1: of that. But you know, are they worried about the

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Speaker 1: fan base going all pirate? Nope, Nope, they sure ain't.

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Speaker 1: And I think folks eas to just kind of accept

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Speaker 1: that a little bit. You don't have to pay, I mean,

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Speaker 1: do what you want. I'm gonna pay for them. But

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Speaker 1: I don't believe people's claims that they're Oh, now is

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Speaker 1: the straw that broke the camel's back. I don't believe that,

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Speaker 1: all right. I think that is it for me today, Mike.

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Speaker 1: You should we be call it a day here. I

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Speaker 1: think we should, right, I mean, we don't have BC.

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna do dead wrong. I don't have any

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Speaker 1: fan subs we'll save that stuff for what you know,

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Speaker 1: Oh you know what, well, I just save Dead Wrong

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Speaker 1: for another week. I think BC's got like ten of

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Speaker 1: them on there, so we'll do that. So let's do

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Speaker 1: this thumbs up on the video. Hit subscribe if you're

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Speaker 1: you know, do me a solid man. I did this

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Speaker 1: one solo on a Friday. Huh. Give me a nice

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Speaker 1: be going a look out for that. And what else

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Speaker 1: we got going on. I think that's about it. Yeah. Always,

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Speaker 1: you can email the show for fan subs or for

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Speaker 1: Friday's Dead Wrong whenever we do them at Morningcombat Morning

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Speaker 1: Combat at gmail dot com. Morning Combat at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: Get those in early and often. Okay, all right, let

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Speaker 1: me see here. I think that is it for me today.

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Speaker 1: One more reminder. I will be joining you postfight. The

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Speaker 1: card is not great, but that main event should be.

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Speaker 1: I'll be joining you right after the main event for

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Speaker 1: Gigazi and Calvin Cator all have a live show, and

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Speaker 1: then on Monday, Monday, Monday, Monday, resume review is out.

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Speaker 1: I will be back live on Wednesday with BC and

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Speaker 1: we will get you ready for UFC two seventy. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, thank you guys so much for understanding everything.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Enjoy your weekend. The UFC is back.

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Speaker 1: I think the main card kicks off at seven pm

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Speaker 1: in the East. I will join you subsequent to the

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Speaker 1: results of the main event and until next time for BC,

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Speaker 1: for Malka, for showtime for CBS Sports and everyone else

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Speaker 1: in between. May all of your gains