1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you. 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 2: Reverend Sean Whittington is an exorcist, seminarian, ghostbuster, lecturer, and 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 2: teacher of paranormal studies and spiritual warfare. Sean and his 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: wife Sharon are both survivors of extreme demonic attacks and 6 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: together they have more than forty years of experience in 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: the field. They founded and operate Ghost be Gone, which 8 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: is a spiritual warfare service based in Las Vegas, assisting 9 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: with paranormal problems of various types and severity. Sean is 10 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 2: a cast member on Eli Roth presents the Legion of 11 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 2: Exorcists on the Travel Channel and Max. The show shares 12 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: the real life experiences of six exorcists, and he also 13 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: hosts the Reverend Sean Whittington's Paranormal Ministry podcast, which is 14 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: live on Facebook and available on YouTube. Sean, Welcome back, Reverend. 15 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: How we have you been, George? 16 00:00:58,920 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 3: How are you? 17 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: While I missed you, I miss you too. It's been 18 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: about four years. 19 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I know want to bug you. I know 20 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 3: you're a little busy, and I don't unless I have 21 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 3: something really interesting to bug you about. 22 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: I'd rather not bug you, that's okay. Anytime you've updated 23 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: God Ghosts in the Paranormal Ministry. 24 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 3: Well, it's actually a completely different book. The first one 25 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 3: was my autobiography, and the second one that just came 26 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 3: out this past Memorial Day is actually just cases some 27 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 3: of the most severe demonic cases and hauntings that I've 28 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 3: worked over the past ten years. Let's say, stories that 29 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 3: actually weren't able to be used on the show. So 30 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 3: pretty severe, and they were just something I needed to 31 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 3: get Doing the show taught me that I needed to 32 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 3: release this stuff and get it off my back and 33 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 3: share the stories and experiences with people. So that's why 34 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 3: I brought the second book out. But it's a completely 35 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 3: different book than thereat one. 36 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: Were you a paranormal investor, gator first, or a minister first? 37 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 3: Paranormal investigator for many years of my wife before getting 38 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 3: into the deliverance ministry. 39 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: Field, and that has been everything you expected. 40 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you, this is your show. You know 41 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 3: I love you and respect you. There's no wrong answer here. 42 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 3: You tell me how you feel about this, But I 43 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 3: know we're probably going to bring up some dark topics, 44 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 3: and a lot of people refer to this hour as 45 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 3: the witching hour. And I know back east I have 46 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 3: friends listening and they would like to they think of 47 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 3: this hour as the three o'clock three am back there, 48 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 3: as the demonic hour. You, if you you know, don't mind. 49 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 3: I have a very short and very powerful prayer of 50 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 3: protection that I can recite and put some protection over 51 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 3: you and I your show, your your crew and all 52 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 3: your listeners, if you'd like me. 53 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 2: To do that, if you think it will help, go ahead. 54 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 3: In the name of the Father and of the Son 55 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 3: and the Holy Spirit Amen. In his name and by 56 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 3: the power of His Cross and Blood, I ask Jesus 57 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 3: to bind any evil spirits, forces and powers of the earth, air, 58 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 3: fire or water of the nether world, and the satanic 59 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: forces of nature. By the power of the Holy Spirit 60 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 3: and by his authority, I ask Jesus to break any curses, 61 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: hexes or spells and send them back to where they 62 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 3: came from. If it be His holy will, I beseech 63 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 3: thee Lord Jesus to protect us by buying by pouring 64 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 3: Thy precious blood on all of us here, mister Nouri 65 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: and I his show, his crew, and all his listeners, 66 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 3: which thou hast shed for us. And I ask THEE 67 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 3: to command that any departing spirits leave quietly, without disturbance, 68 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 3: and go straight to thy cross to dispose of thou 69 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:05,279 Speaker 3: sies fit. I actually to bind any demonic interaction, interplay 70 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 3: or communications. I place all of us here under the 71 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: protection of the blood of Jesus Christ, which he shed 72 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 3: for us. 73 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: Amen, thank you by doing that. 74 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 3: You're welcome, sir. 75 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 2: Did you did you write that? 76 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: No, that's not up. A beautiful book called Deliverance Prayers 77 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 3: for Use by the Laity, and it's a you can 78 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,679 Speaker 3: get it online and it's such a really beautiful book. 79 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 2: How did you get involved with Eli Roth? 80 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 3: You know, the person that doesn't get mentioned on the 81 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 3: screen and the credits is God. He's absolutely the definite, 82 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 3: in my opinion, my humble opinion, the actual show creator 83 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 3: of this of this show. It basically got laid into 84 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 3: my lap and I got a call from a producer, 85 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 3: but actually before the pandemic, so we working on the 86 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 3: project for a very long time, and I realized rather 87 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 3: quickly on that this just was something that was being 88 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 3: led down a path, and this was just something that 89 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 3: God arranged and I wish I could get him to 90 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: answer that question for you, because I don't know how 91 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 3: it all came to be, and I'm still wondering what 92 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 3: the message is. There has to be a message here 93 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 3: somewhere that's meant for many people to see and experience 94 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 3: and feel from this show. I know the show's not 95 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 3: for everybody, but we're all very proud of it, and 96 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 3: I'm waiting to see what comes next. I don't know, 97 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 3: but I know that wasn't a very good answer to 98 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 3: your question, but it just came out of it. It 99 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 3: just came out of out of nowhere. I got a 100 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 3: call one day and a gentleman introduced himself and said 101 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 3: he was working on a project for a production company 102 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 3: about demonic possession and exorcism. Would I be interested? And 103 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 3: I just, you know, I didn't believe them at first. 104 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 3: And then after I spoke to people that he worked 105 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 3: with and show creators telling me their ideas and running 106 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 3: them past me and having interviews with me, letting me 107 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 3: tell my stories and stuff, I started to buy into 108 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 3: it and realized that they're onto something here. It's something 109 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 3: unlike anything I'd ever heard of before or been presented with, 110 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 3: and before you know, I was, I was on board, 111 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 3: and then here we are two weeks after filming. They 112 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 3: crammed about twelve weeks of filming into like two weeks. 113 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 3: That's we didn't We didn't really know Eli was a 114 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 3: part of it. To be honest with you, I don't 115 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: know if they purposely kept that a secret from us 116 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 3: or not. I'm not sure. But the last day of filming, 117 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 3: he showed up to do all of his parts and 118 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 3: to meet us all and to let you know, let 119 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 3: the cat out of the bag that he had put 120 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 3: his name on it and he was going to be 121 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 3: part of the show. And that was that. Honestly, it 122 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 3: blew us away. We couldn't have been a more a 123 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 3: bigger surprise to us, but we were definitely I'm sure 124 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: if someone would have taken a picture of us, who 125 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 3: were probably all staying there the cat, that is, with 126 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 3: our mouths wide open and our jaws dropped down because 127 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 3: we were when he showed up. It was definitely we 128 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 3: didn't know. 129 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: Reverend tell us about exorcisms and demonic possessions. I mean, 130 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: I keep thinking of the movie The Exorcist. Does it 131 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: really happen that way? 132 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 3: You know, every exorcism is different, and I know exorcists. 133 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 3: I was just having this discussion with an exorcist the 134 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 3: other day. I've never seen the total black eyes. I've 135 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 3: seen the eyes rolled back. I've never seen the total 136 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 3: black eyes some exorcists. I've never seen levitation. I've seen 137 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 3: levitation once, but it was on a very small scale 138 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 3: of a young girl who was possessed, who couldn't move 139 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 3: and was in any wheelchair. The actual wheelchair would move 140 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 3: and it's almost she was in it. But I haven't 141 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 3: seen the type of levitation that you've seen in that movie, 142 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: The Exorcist, even though that was based on a true 143 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 3: story and I'm sure all of that really happened. I 144 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 3: haven't seen a head spinning around. I've been thrown up on. 145 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 3: I've seen people facing the opposite direction and completely turn 146 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 3: their head all the way around and look back at me. 147 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 3: I've heard sounds of what sounds like every bone in 148 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 3: a possessed person's body breaking the spirit is manifested in them. 149 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 3: But I would have to say that every exorcism is different, 150 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 3: and some of that stuff you see it does happen. 151 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 2: Yes, how does somebody get possessed? I mean, what do 152 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 2: they do, do they let their guard down because it 153 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 2: doesn't happen to everybody. 154 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 3: Well, I think nowadays the reason why it seems to 155 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 3: be on the rise and one of the busiest exorcism 156 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 3: courses one can be blessed to be accepted into is 157 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 3: the one the Vatican offers, and every diocese right now 158 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 3: has at least one or two exorcists on there, you know, 159 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 3: on location there. It's really out of hand right now 160 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 3: and different than it was, let's say, twenty years ago. 161 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 3: I think the reason why it's so much on a 162 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 3: rise now is because we've just gotten away from God. 163 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 3: Humanity as a whole has gotten away from God, and 164 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 3: that has allowed the veil to thin and be pulled down, 165 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 3: the curtainty pulled down in some areas, and allowed the 166 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 3: demonic to run more freely amongst us. And it's just 167 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 3: like an out of control, deadly cancer now. But that's 168 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 3: why I believe it's happening now on the scale that 169 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 3: it is. 170 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 2: Well, a believer, a righteous person, a God fearing person, 171 00:09:58,640 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: will they get possessed. 172 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 3: And that's the very sad but extremely mysterious part of 173 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 3: some exorcism. In some possessions I have known people like 174 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 3: that that we're very holy. I knew a priest that 175 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 3: got possessed. I've known very holy, devoutly religious people who 176 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 3: have gotten possessed. And other exorcistms will tell you that 177 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 3: sometimes God allows that to happen because there's people in 178 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 3: that person's life that need to witness the power and 179 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 3: the glory of God when this person gets delivered. So 180 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't have I know you and 181 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 3: I will both get the answer to that one day 182 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 3: when we're both in heaven. I don't know why some 183 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 3: people like that tend to be get targeted by the demonic. 184 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 3: Most of the cases that come across my table are 185 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 3: people that have said the wrong thing, done the wrong thing, 186 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 3: been at the wrong place at the wrong time, and 187 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 3: did something to open up a doorway make themselves a 188 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 3: target and have these types of things enter into their lives. 189 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 3: But it happens that we're all a target. Clergy's the 190 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 3: biggest target of all. I remember one of the episodes 191 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 3: I quoted saying that every exorcist has a wanted poster 192 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 3: hanging in Hell of him land her, and we have 193 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 3: to be very careful in our families too. And I 194 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 3: you know I experienced that firsthand. Both my wife and 195 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 3: I are survivors of extreme amonic attacks, and she's lucky 196 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 3: to still be here. So they can happen to anybody, 197 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 3: and you just have to be very, very careful and a 198 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 3: little good life. 199 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: How do you ward them off from you? 200 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 3: For example, I'm blessed, I you know. 201 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: Are you concerned, Reverend Sean? 202 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I'm only human. You know. God gave me 203 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 3: the the emotion of being able to be frightened. I 204 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 3: don't take my wife on cases anymore because she was 205 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 3: lucky to survive her attack, and the couple of attacks 206 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 3: that I've been through were very frightening. One had me up. Actually, 207 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,599 Speaker 3: I let the deliberance ministry field for a couple of 208 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 3: years because it had frightened me that bad. And I 209 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 3: get a little bit of that every time the phone 210 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 3: rings and I talked to somebody, and the spiding senses 211 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 3: go up, and I truly believe that what they're telling 212 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 3: me is true, and they are in the presence of 213 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 3: the demonic. And I'm planning my next you know, how 214 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 3: I'm going to approach this case and my plan of attack. 215 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 3: I'm a little nervous, a little scared. But people close 216 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 3: to me, and especially that have come with me and 217 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 3: helped me on cases, say that something happens to me 218 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 3: and I go to these locations and I change. I 219 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 3: don't know. I don't see myself doing that, but they 220 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 3: say that I change. And I think I've just been 221 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 3: a blessed person called to this for one But I 222 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 3: think I'm a blessed person, and God has allowed me 223 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 3: to be a conduit in a vessel for the Holy 224 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 3: Spirit and other prayer warriors and angelic beings and so 225 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 3: forth to come through and help me when I'm working 226 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 3: these cases and on location and helping me take care 227 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 3: of these them. They says, I don't have any magic powers. 228 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 2: Have you seen a difference in someone who's been exercised 229 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: and the demon is eradicated. You see a difference in 230 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 2: their personality, the way they. 231 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 3: Look absolutely like night and day. Absolutely, it's pretty amazing. 232 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 3: The thing that we struggle with now because it seems 233 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 3: to be in a borderline out of hand. The thing 234 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 3: that a lot of clergy and colleagues of mine in 235 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 3: the field struggled with now is two things. One h 236 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 3: complete integrations and one time we thought it was impossible 237 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 3: we thought if a person got possessed, that the evil spirit, 238 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 3: the unclean spirit, is so unclean and so foul that 239 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 3: the body the longer it stayed in there, the body 240 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 3: was just decayoa. But now we feel that these invading 241 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 3: unclean spirit can actually push the original soul out and 242 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 3: if they're left, if they're left in this person's body 243 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 3: long enough, they completely take over. And then what you 244 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 3: have is a person walking around that's actually a demon, 245 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 3: but they just look like a regular person. And if 246 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 3: you see some of the violence that people are are 247 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 3: dishing out to one another out there in the world, 248 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 3: you have to you have to wonder if that's not 249 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 3: really the case going on. I've had people walk by 250 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 3: me on the street that I don't even no and 251 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 3: I have the clergy collar on and just yell at 252 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 3: me at the top of the lungs in my ear, 253 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 3: Jesus wasn't real and then just walk off like you know, 254 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 3: they didn't just do that, They just so matter of 255 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 3: fact they walk away from me. That's very disturbing. 256 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: Really, is my gosh? What is a demon? Sean? 257 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 3: I like to keep it simple and just refer to 258 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 3: them as a fallen angel. I believe they were once angels. 259 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: What do they want, Well, they don't want. 260 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 3: To be under God's rule. They want to do whatever 261 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 3: they want to do. They want to just do whatever 262 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 3: they want to do. And they hate us. To just 263 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 3: say that they hate us, it's pretty inadequate. I can't 264 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 3: really adequately put it into terms how this level of 265 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 3: hatred they have for humans. But they would rather be 266 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 3: any where they chose. They made the choice to follow 267 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 3: Satan in battle God for supremacy of the heavens and lost, 268 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 3: but they would rather be anywhere than in hell because 269 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 3: they suffer too. So their goal is to is to 270 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 3: possess a human body. And if they can take a 271 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 3: life and destroy a human life in the process of 272 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 3: possessing and capturing someone's soul, then then they prefer that 273 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 3: at the feather in their tap. But they just want 274 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 3: to in the and they know that the war has 275 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 3: already been one, but they would like to try and 276 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 3: win as many battles on the way to end of 277 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 3: days and to when they finally are put forever where 278 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 3: they're going to spend eternity in hell before they get 279 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 3: locked away down and there they want to reach as 280 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 3: much havoc on humanity as they. 281 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: Can included why would anybody want to be an extorssist? 282 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 3: I got drug into it, George kicked it in scream 283 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 3: and I didn't plan on it at all. My wife 284 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 3: and I were just just trying to have fun many 285 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 3: many years ago, just paranormal investigators. 286 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 2: It's not where you wake up and go I want 287 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 2: to be an exorcist that way, not at all. 288 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 3: I still do that. I still wake up every day 289 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 3: and pray that I never have to take authority over 290 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 3: another exorcism again. It's not fun. But we had something 291 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 3: follow us home from a case many years ago and 292 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 3: it took residence up in our home here for about 293 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 3: two months, and I didn't know what I was dealing with. 294 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: I didn't know what to do. 295 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 3: So I reached out to the paranormal community, and God 296 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 3: bless them for once they came through for me. And 297 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 3: they introduced me to my then mentor, who took me 298 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 3: under her wing and by the hand and walked me 299 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 3: through everything and helped me fight whatever it was that 300 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 3: was in my home out. And then she saw something 301 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 3: in me that I didn't see and said, I think 302 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 3: you're being called to this, and if you're interested in 303 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 3: continuing the training. I can get you me appropriate training 304 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 3: and see what happens. And at that time I said 305 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 3: yes only because I wanted to be ready if it 306 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 3: ever happened again. 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