1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 2: I want some stuff. Never told you production I by. 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: Hurt Radio. 4 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 3: And welcome, and we are doing another classic for our 5 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 3: feminist movie, not exactly feminist movie, movie that I will 6 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 3: talk about with feminism is that is how we're gonna 7 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 3: do it. Okay. I would classify this and so would 8 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 3: a lot of the listicals that I have found as 9 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 3: a fall classic. So this is why we kind of 10 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 3: picked one. And as we enter sixty degree weather in Georgia. 11 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 3: By the way, I've been wearing a card again, I 12 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 3: see you're wearing a sweatshirt. Annie, congratulations. Is that time 13 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 3: of a year we decided we would pick a fall 14 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 3: movie and we are doing the nineteen eighty five, yes, 15 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 3: forty year old movie classic Clue, which we referenced before. 16 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 4: We did, and you recently helped me solve a mystery 17 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 4: of a ribbon. I got a dragon con at this 18 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 4: quote I didn't recognize and you were like, oh no, 19 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 4: that immediately clue. 20 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 3: I immediately knew what it was. And again, like I said, 21 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 3: this is not necessarily a feminist movie at its core. 22 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: In fact, there are several things in there and would 23 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 3: be like, eh, that's really sexist. However, there are some 24 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 3: good bits to it, including the comedy genius from the 25 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 3: likes of Madeline Khan, who portrays in the iconic line 26 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 3: you're talking about this dark, foreboding widow Missus White. I 27 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 3: would say it's empowering for sure, and not even heard 28 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 3: even Miss Garlett's character. I also think that there may 29 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 3: have been some queer awakenings oh of this movie, because 30 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 3: there was moments that I had some feelings. I was like, wait, 31 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: and I don't necessarily qualify myself as queer because like, 32 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 3: but at the same time, I'm like, oh, that's sexy, 33 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 3: you know, Like I remembered those scenes as sexy, even 34 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 3: though they're not really sexy, because of Miss Scarlett specifically 35 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 3: more than anybody else. All of that to say, yes, 36 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 3: I think her lines were always delivered with quick, dry 37 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 3: wit outside again of the Flames the Flames, but that 38 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 3: was purposeful comedic timing and we love it. Yes. 39 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. Did you did you play Clue growing up? 40 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 3: Oh? Yes, that was one of my favorite games. I 41 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 3: played myself sometimes Miss White. I was Miss White all 42 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 3: the time. I even though in the game she's portrayed 43 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 3: as the maid. 44 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, she's like the very kind of matronly on the 45 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 4: box cover at least. 46 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I. 47 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 2: Went with Miss Peacock usually. 48 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 3: She was the matronly one to me, missus k. 49 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 4: I think I just liked her. Her outfit us purely 50 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 4: fair pesthetic. 51 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 3: I did find it funny that they referenced it in 52 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 3: the movie colors for like coding, rather than the actual 53 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 3: colors they wore in which happens in the game. Anyway. 54 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 3: Moving on, Yes, so we're gonna go ahead and jump 55 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 3: right into this because I want to talk about it 56 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 3: about the things that I didn't catch on as a 57 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 3: kid versus today and the way that I Yes, it's 58 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 3: more sexist than some but not as bad as you 59 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 3: would think. There is some little bit like anti quaer, 60 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 3: but not nessary. Anti quaer is more confusing. 61 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 62 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it pretty well, and I feel like it's kind 63 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,119 Speaker 3: of interesting of how they portray socialism. Anyway, Going on, So, 64 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 3: this movie is based off of this successful nineteen forty 65 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: three board game Clue, which is a who with what 66 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 3: and where murder mystery featuring the characters of Courla Mustard, 67 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 3: Mister Green, missus Peacock, Miss Scarlett, Miss White, and Professor 68 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 3: Plum Apparently this was a game that was by a 69 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 3: British creator, but the movie decided they wanted to do 70 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: all those political views and so placed it in New 71 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 3: England in the nineteen fifties. So this is kind of 72 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 3: the difference, is there. This group is led by Butler Wadsworth, 73 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 3: played by the amazing Tim Curry, who was apparently a 74 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 3: third choice by the way to play that character. Yeah. 75 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 3: The crew they are all invited to have mentioned under 76 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 3: mysterious circumstances, each receiving a letter with an alias, as 77 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 3: these names are not their real names, even though they 78 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 3: adapted them very quickly. By the way, they receive invitations 79 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 3: to a not so exciting dinner party. Yes, I will say, 80 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 3: I feel like Knives Out was like I owe to 81 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 3: that a little bit. 82 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, this was very much like you know the murder 83 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 4: mystery games you play and you like to listen to 84 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 4: the tape. 85 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: Yes, now you figured this out? 86 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, oh yeah, I was going to ask, because 87 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 3: I did I buy you a Star Wars Clue game? 88 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 3: Or did I see one and think I should buy 89 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 3: that for you? 90 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 2: I believe you bought one. Somebody bought one for. 91 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 3: I think I bought it for you. 92 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: Yes, I have a few versions of Clue. 93 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 3: Do you have you played it? 94 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 4: I have opened it up and looked at it, because 95 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,679 Speaker 4: I'm always really interested if you've ever played like Clue 96 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 4: in another property, it's really interesting because it'll be like, 97 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 4: I don't know, Uh, it was Han Solo and the 98 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 4: Millennium Falcon with a blaster and you're like, Han Solo 99 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 4: killed this person, don't know, just doesn't match. 100 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 3: Bt Dubbs. Did you know that Carrie Fisher was initially 101 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 3: supposed to play Miss Scarlett? No, but she ended up 102 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 3: going to rehab. 103 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 2: Oh well, I guess that for her. 104 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 3: Good for her, but also that would have been interesting anyway, 105 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 3: going back and galling her everywhere already. And as they 106 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 3: come together, we meet the cook, the maid event and 107 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: again Wadsworth, the butler that buttles so he says. We 108 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 3: find out they all are from DC and have some 109 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 3: type of secret. After a lovely dinner of Monkey's brains, 110 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 3: which we later find out that's what it is and 111 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 3: it's missus Peacock's favorite, we have the arrival of the 112 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 3: main guest, a mister Body. They are then ushered into 113 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 3: the parlor for some cognac and revelations. Turns out all 114 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 3: of them are being blackmailed for different things, and mister 115 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 3: Body is the one who's behind it all. What Wadsworth 116 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 3: advises that the police have been called and they should 117 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 3: all report mister Body, that he has all this evidence 118 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 3: and if they don't report him then he will just 119 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 3: hand over those evidents anyway. But mister Body isn't having that, 120 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 3: oh no. After a short lived attempt to flee the premises, 121 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 3: he comes back with gifts for the guests, a candlestick, 122 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 3: a wrench, a pipe which, by the way, that would 123 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 3: be a really disappointing gift, a rope, and a revolver. 124 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 3: After handing out these gifts, he gives an alternative to 125 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 3: Wadsworth's plans kill Wadsworth and everyone walks away. He turns 126 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 3: off the light and we hear a gun go off 127 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 3: and a scream, several screams, I think. When the lights 128 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 3: are turned back on, we see mister Body lying on 129 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 3: the floor, who Professor Plumed declares is dead. And by 130 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 3: the way, he is a psychiatrist, so he's supposed to 131 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 3: be a doctor as well, but no longer practicing, which 132 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 3: is why he's being black male. The panic sets in 133 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 3: and everyone is acting confused who did this? As it 134 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 3: turns out the bullet actually missed mister Body and was 135 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: probably not the cause of death. Confusion was Worth then 136 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 3: reveals this was his plan, getting them all together all along, 137 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 3: and that his wife had been a victim of mister 138 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 3: Body's black mail as well. She was a socialist and 139 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 3: had been forced to work for him for free until 140 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 3: she died by suicide. So with all of that, they 141 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,679 Speaker 3: oh go on to try to figure out what happened, 142 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 3: how did he die? At one point they think maybe 143 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: the poison. There's poison in the cognac, which causes Evet 144 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 3: to scream, who has been listening to the wiretap that's 145 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 3: been in that room in recording from a different room 146 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 3: the billiard, I believe, And so they all retrieve her 147 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 3: from the billiard room and they come back together to 148 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 3: the parlor so they can discuss what is happening, finding 149 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 3: that mister Body's body is missing, where's mister Boddy's body? 150 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 3: After trying to figure out what might have happened, they 151 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 3: soon discovered the cook's body and the refrigerator with a 152 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 3: knife to her back. They decided to lock away all 153 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 3: those weapons and throw away the key, but as they try, 154 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 3: they are met at the door with another guests, a motorist, 155 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: who they decide to lock into another room because you know, 156 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 3: they got things to do. Oh and they rediscovered mister 157 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 3: Boddy's body with fresh roounds on his head, and they're 158 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 3: for sure now that he is dead. Now he really 159 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 3: is dead. His eyes are open at everything, so they 160 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 3: drag him back into the parlor along with the cook's body. 161 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 3: They decide they must go through the house to see 162 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 3: if there's any possible other guests hiding who was killing everyone, 163 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 3: So they pair off. The match stick scene sticks with 164 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 3: me so clearly. I don't know what it was, is 165 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: the sound of them cutting the matches, but I remember 166 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 3: that scene very clearly. So with that they all pair off. 167 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 3: They all go to search the homes, assigned to different 168 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 3: floors or areas. Later, they discovered the motorist has been killed, 169 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 3: and they are again met at the door with another visitor, 170 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 3: but they've actually supposedly thrown away the keys at this point. 171 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 3: This time is a cop who they let in, but 172 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 3: then they decided to lock in the room as well. 173 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 3: It's very suspicious, very suspicious surprise. He is also killed, 174 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 3: but This is after he goes around and does a 175 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 3: whole look see of the house and answers a phone 176 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: call that turns out like Jadrigor Hoover is trying to 177 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 3: find somebody in that house, you know, but you know 178 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 3: he dies later on. We then hear the door again 179 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 3: and it's a singing telegram and she's shot bang immediately. Yeah, no, 180 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 3: but I remember the yeah you're singing till like that. 181 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 3: Just that sits in my head forever. Yeah. And soon 182 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 3: they all come back together and Wsworth announces that he 183 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 3: knows what has happened, who has done this. Turns out 184 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 3: all the guests outside of the main six were informants 185 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 3: of mister Body and had connections with the main six 186 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 3: and had been lured there for that very reason. Several 187 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 3: scenarios are shown in the movie, but the true end 188 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 3: is that everyone murdered everyone and w Wasworth is actually 189 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 3: mister Body. Oh and mister Green just kills mister Body 190 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 3: because he was actually the FBI in formant and he 191 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 3: was the one that was supposed to get that call 192 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 3: from mister Hoover. But you know, Watsworth was the one 193 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 3: that takes the call, and he is okay, mister body. 194 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 3: He goes home to sleep with his wife because he 195 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 3: his secret was that he was gay, but it wasn't gay. 196 00:10:55,080 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, end of story. 197 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 3: So far and foremost, Annie, this was your first viewing. 198 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 3: What did you think of this movie? Did you figure 199 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 3: out the mystery? 200 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 2: No? 201 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 4: No, Uh, it was really interesting because you know when 202 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 4: a movie is so popular, like you get pieces of 203 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 4: it whether or not you've seen it, and so I'm 204 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 4: sure we'll probably talk about this a little bit more later. 205 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 4: But there are tropes in the game the butler's the killer, 206 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 4: like you know, all of those kind of here's your 207 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 4: sexy fim fatale, she did it, like all of these 208 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 4: different tropes. So I didn't anticipate the ending gag where 209 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 4: they have like three fake in things. 210 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 2: So I was definitely like, I don't know what's true, 211 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 2: that's not what's going on here. 212 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 4: But I didn't really enjoy it, and I liked it 213 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 4: does have a very I was thinking about this today 214 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 4: because only murders in the building came back today. Yeah, 215 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 4: and they like the kind of that murder. I was like, 216 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 4: is there kind of a thing? Is cozy murder mystery? Now? 217 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 4: I kind of yeah, because it has like you know 218 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 4: it's raining outside, its storming. 219 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: They're in this big mansion. The costumes are great, the 220 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 2: background is. 221 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 3: Great, likes is fantastic. 222 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, It's just is very visually appealing and kind of 223 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 4: like it makes you want to at least me. I 224 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 4: was like, I'll curl up in this blanket try to 225 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 4: figure out, yeah, exactly, try to figure out what this is. 226 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 4: But no, I did not figure it out. I was 227 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 4: suspicious pretty much everybody, but I will say Tim Curry, 228 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 4: I was suspicious. 229 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 3: It's always suspicious and e's just be real honest. Yeah. 230 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 3: So the ending was an ode to how the game 231 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 3: has different endings and scenarios again and how it could 232 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 3: have happened. Is the first scenario with Miss Scarlet killing 233 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 3: everyone with the assistance of a vet who had helped 234 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 3: her and was a former employee of hers. That's her connection, 235 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 3: and then we have she also had connection with the 236 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 3: cop who she paid off, and then we had Wadsworth 237 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 3: work for the FBI. How about this instead was Peacock 238 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 3: killing everyone, which was kind of like the most random scenario. 239 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 3: I felt like, especially like, how is she gonna choke 240 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 3: somebody with it? Like she doesn't have the body strengthen, okay, 241 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 3: whatever you do you and then here's what really happened 242 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 3: with everyone killing their connected person except for Professor Plum 243 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 3: who kills Body, and Wadsworth killing the singing telegram woman, 244 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 3: and they do have a connection, but don't have a 245 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 3: connection type of thing. So it was very interesting, and 246 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 3: that I know. When it was originally released, different theaters 247 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 3: got different endings. They didn't get the all three. I 248 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 3: watched it on VHS because yes, baby, I'm that old. 249 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 3: We rented a VCR from Curtis Mathis with the movie 250 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 3: because we did not have a VCR. We were not 251 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 3: rich like that. And I got to watch that movie 252 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 3: and I loved it. I loved This is an ode 253 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 3: to slapsticks, even though, like to me in nineteen eighties 254 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 3: nineteen seventies, lots of slapstick, and that was kind of 255 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 3: one of the best parts of comedy. I miss some 256 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 3: of that, I'm not gonna lie, but it made me 257 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 3: laugh hysterically, the way that mister Green just gets bobbled 258 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 3: about everywhere like as a scenario as being mister Body. 259 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 3: I love those slapstick comedies and this was one of those, 260 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 3: and it made me laugh every time. Every time, and 261 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 3: you will hear me. Like I told my partner, he 262 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 3: was watching it with me, part of it with me 263 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 3: last night, in which they are like, you know, to 264 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 3: make a long story short, and everybody's like, too late. 265 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 3: I do that to him because of this movie, and 266 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 3: he's probably like what and he didn't understand where that 267 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 3: came from. But I still cannot help myself because every 268 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 3: time I hear someone say that, that's the line I 269 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 3: think of next. So like, there are so many things 270 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 3: to that this quip is such a like funny level 271 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 3: of comedy, the wit, the humor, the back and forth. 272 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 3: I loved it. I loved it as a kid, so 273 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 3: all of that to say, like this is kind of 274 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 3: what it reminisces of. And I also, again, like I said, 275 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 3: because we're not necessarily doing a lot of themes, because 276 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 3: I think that themes are fairly It's not like because 277 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 3: of its dark humor element with the very over the 278 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 3: top rhetoric, I feel like it's fairly obvious. You can 279 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 3: tell me if you're wrong. You have some themes that 280 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 3: you want to talk about Annie or listeners. But like, 281 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 3: one of the things I did love about the movie 282 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 3: is that women held their own in this movie. They 283 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 3: were more memorable characters than the men to me, outside 284 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 3: of Tim Curry, Like they did such an amazing job 285 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 3: in their portrayal. I will say, like probably the least 286 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 3: in the women was missus Peacock. But like I remember 287 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 3: Lene Warren's voice as Miss Scarlett. I remember her line 288 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 3: of saying, who are you Perry Mason? Like that line, which, 289 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 3: by the way, maybe laugh because I'm like Patty Mason 290 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 3: wasn't existing in the nineteen fifties, I don't think, but 291 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 3: like she was like that person. And obviously again my 292 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 3: favorite would be Miss White. So like for me, Miss 293 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 3: Scarlett is the fein Fateel but in the movie she's 294 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 3: an unapologetic sex worker, like an madam. Like she does 295 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 3: what she does and knows everybody's secrets. It's like, eh, 296 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 3: that's my job, and I know what you did, so 297 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 3: you have no room to judge me. Like type of conversation. 298 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 3: Here's a quote from cleojournal dot com. They write, quote 299 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 3: Miss Scarlett, who proudly outs herself as a Washington madam, 300 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 3: seems to have found one of the few direct routes 301 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 3: to power for a woman in the nineteen fifties. America, 302 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 3: selling sex cheerfully impervious to the evening's bourgeoisie code of conduct. 303 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,239 Speaker 3: She's the only character who appears to be enjoying herself, 304 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 3: delivering a stream of a may West like wise cracks 305 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 3: throughout the evening. This is an example, Professor Plum, I 306 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 3: am a doctor, but I don't practice, Miss Scarlett, practice 307 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 3: makes perfect. I think most men could use a little practice, 308 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 3: don't you. It's a great line. And he's been sexually 309 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 3: harassing her the entire time. Yeah, like, but she stands 310 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 3: like she's so used to it's like. And then we 311 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 3: have Miss White, the dark and mysterious widow, who comes 312 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 3: off as unapologetic and ready with vengeance. With another wonderful quote, 313 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 3: she says, yes, just the five husbands. Husbands should be 314 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 3: like Kleenex, soft, strong and disposable. I'm like, yeah, okay, 315 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 3: I enjoyed that. Uh. And note here, uh that the 316 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 3: only ad lib in this movie the entire time was 317 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 3: her line, which she says, yes, I did it. I 318 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 3: killed a vet. I hated her so much it the 319 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 3: flames flames flames on the side of my face. 320 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 5: There breathing, breathe, heavy, breathing, heavy, breathe and then that's 321 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 5: it is so wonderful her acting that was one of 322 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 5: the most iconic. 323 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 3: And then the cutaway to mister to Colonel Muster going 324 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 3: what is comedic genius Like I don't know why, but 325 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 3: I think it's like one of the top five comedic 326 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 3: timing that I will remember mm hmm for adult life. 327 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 3: It was just like genius because they let her do 328 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 3: it and they realized how amazing this was. But like 329 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 3: those moments like that really like things that I remember again, 330 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 3: going back to Miss Scarlett being her like very like 331 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 3: Booby but green dress like iconic self, having her high 332 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 3: pitched laugh like it just made her character to me, 333 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 3: even though she wasn't wearing a scarlet dress. 334 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that through me too. 335 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 4: That threw me too, because in the game, some of 336 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 4: you listeners have somehow never played this game. It's very 337 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 4: color coded and like mississc Kerdelbustard in yellow scarlet isn't scarlet? Like, Yeah, 338 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 4: they were. I think you're you're right, and that the 339 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 4: women were much more memorable than the men. Uh, and 340 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 4: they had better I thought they had better line deliveries 341 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,959 Speaker 4: and just in general they had more presence and it 342 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 4: was interesting to me because that I mean, Clue the 343 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 4: game is very much playing to tropes in this movie, 344 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 4: like heightened it. It was like, oh, you think, here's 345 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 4: your sexy French maid and all of this, but they 346 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 4: were doing it very comedically, but while also saying like, yeah, 347 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 4: miss Scarlett is not going to stand for your nonsense. 348 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 4: Missus White might kill you. They I love how they 349 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 4: gave like every character a very h this is what 350 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 4: I love about good mystery, very plausible, like I could 351 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 4: see her doing it. 352 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 2: I could see it. 353 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean they definitely do a great job in 354 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 3: giving each character their own backstory without even having too 355 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 3: much of a backstory. Yeah at the beginning, like you're 356 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 3: seeing them as they're presented and you're like, Okay, you 357 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 3: know who this is, you know who this is? Yeah, 358 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 3: and again the men are not as memorable. No, just really, 359 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 3: I'm just saying. I thought about how many games, board 360 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 3: games that have been turned into movies, like we've seen 361 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 3: many of video games, which sometimes they don't work. The 362 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 3: number one was last of us. If you need to know, 363 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 3: that was the best. Clue is always in the top five. 364 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 3: It's not number one for the board game editions or renditions, 365 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 3: and the top five with that is Jamanji Hello Wichi, which, 366 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 3: by the way, Jamanji is not a real game, so 367 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 3: it's kind of like one of those things like based 368 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 3: on board game, but it is not a real game. 369 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 3: It is, but it came exactly That's what I'm saying. 370 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 3: It wasn't the original. It does have a lot of 371 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 3: horror obviously behind that. And then they said dungeons and dragons, 372 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 3: and I'm like, is that a really a. 373 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 2: Board game tabletop game? 374 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 3: I would say, okay, but not board game, but you 375 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 3: know what, I allow it. I'll allow it. Uh So 376 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 3: it did bring that in, but they did have one 377 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 3: of the best adaptations to that. And I think because 378 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 3: maybe there's not a lot of games like I don't know, 379 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 3: how do you change turn Life into? 380 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, there's plenty of them that I'm like, I'm 381 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 4: not sure if it's knew one that Margot Robbie is 382 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 4: going to be in And I was like, huh. 383 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 3: Oh, I just know Wuthering Heights, but that's a book. 384 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 2: No, she's it's a board game adaptation. 385 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 4: I can't remember really, but I was like, huh, all right, 386 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 4: like sorry, yeah, it's. 387 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 2: Not sorry, but you know I would be surprised. 388 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 3: But yeah, so it is interesting to see that. But 389 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 3: I also wondered about like the murder mystery concept because 390 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 3: I feel like this is kind of in tune with 391 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 3: all that the who done it is and we got 392 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 3: to figure it out. We can't leave this house until 393 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 3: we find the killer type of conversation. And many attribute 394 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 3: the murder mystery dinner shows to be from the nineteen 395 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 3: forties nineteen fifties, but then it involved in the eighties 396 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 3: involving audience members. Have you ever done one of those? 397 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 4: I've played, I've played a game I've never gone to, 398 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 4: like an event. 399 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 2: Space, I've done it. 400 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, either. 401 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I have a friend who did, and it sounded 402 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 4: like it went disastrously. 403 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 2: I don't think that. 404 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 3: Reflects control what the audience is going to do. Yeah, 405 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 3: which seems kind of like it's a it's all the dice. Yeah, 406 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 3: I know. I've seen people do it at home with 407 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 3: their friends, so they know them well enough and give 408 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 3: them characters play right, that's a thing. So you done that? 409 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 2: Yes, I have I have one. 410 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 4: It is like a it's a masquerade that went wrong 411 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 4: and it's on the train of course, you know. 412 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's on the train, Like obviously the Office has 413 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 3: an infamous episode. Yeah, I do declare, I do declare, 414 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 3: I didn't do it. I did not have that accent anyway. 415 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 3: But I do think like when we talk about like 416 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,239 Speaker 3: movies like Knives Out and those types of movies like 417 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 3: it kind of is reminiscent to Clue as well the 418 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 3: board game versus also like these movies that have some 419 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 3: iconic moments. It again, the one thing that the Knives 420 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 3: Out was more serious and also they left the house. 421 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, but that is a thing about a 422 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 4: lot of these murdered mystery stories is they usually have 423 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 4: one space where they're generally confined. I would say Knives Out, 424 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 4: they were confined by the will, So even if they 425 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 4: could leave the house. 426 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 3: The second one, the second one, they were confined house. 427 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 3: But the murder happened outside of Yes, and then they 428 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 3: come again, and then was there more murder? 429 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 6: M there was a tempted murder mud that's right, right, 430 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 6: And I really thought that was interesting and we could 431 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 6: talk about murder mystery concepts in general because of that. 432 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 3: Like also Shakespeare theavern't have a thing like this level 433 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 3: of conversation. But that's again, but of course we couldn't 434 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 3: go beyond this without the politics of clue. Like they 435 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 3: really wanted to have that Red Scare, the McCarthy era 436 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 3: type of conversation in here, and they actually portray I 437 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 3: couldn't tell, you can't tell what they're saying necessarily, and 438 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 3: this was done in the eighties once again, so right 439 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 3: outside of still Cold War level of what's going down, 440 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 3: you know. So it was interesting to see when they 441 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 3: talked about like she was a socialist and then it 442 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 3: came down to you're a communist. Then she's like, no, 443 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 3: I'm the purest form of capitalism, which is I feel 444 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 3: like a conversation today of like the mixture. You're like, no, 445 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,479 Speaker 3: we're leading to communism, but you think that It's like 446 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 3: it's also our capitalist is turning into communism and you're 447 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 3: not realzing what's happening, and you think communism is just 448 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:09,479 Speaker 3: socialism and that's not what's happening. We're having a dictatorship back. Okay. 449 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 3: But all of that to say is like they have 450 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 3: that conversation in here. I will say there are so 451 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 3: many jokes in there that I did not understand as 452 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 3: a ten twelve year old once you're like, red hairing, 453 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 3: what does that mean? I had to look that up 454 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 3: not too long ago. 455 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 4: To be honest, I knew about that because of another 456 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 4: mystery book and it was a clue and I was like, ah, 457 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 4: red hair. 458 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 3: Just a red hairing. But it was interesting to see 459 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 3: them bring that as a part of that conversation, which 460 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 3: you don't have obviously in the game. There's no real reason. Yeah, 461 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 3: there's no back there's no plot to it. You just 462 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 3: get murdered and you have to get like. 463 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 4: Right, oh, and you know that would be an interesting exercise. 464 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 4: Me and my friends used to do this, where we 465 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 4: would try to describe why they did it or. 466 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 3: Oh really go that far? 467 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? 468 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes, especially if you get again like I have, 469 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 4: like what we do in the Shadows one. You know, 470 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 4: you know these characters, so you can try to describe, like, 471 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 4: why in the world would they have done this? 472 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 3: Well, now I needed you to play Star Wars to 473 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 3: see the backstory. 474 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I would because. 475 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 3: You're supposed to know who gets murdered in that one. 476 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 4: I'm not sure if anyone gets murdered. So some of 477 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 4: the newer ones do this thing where like in what 478 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 4: we do in the shadow is one the cursed hat 479 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 4: goes missing. So it's oh, I feel like in the 480 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 4: Star Wars one it was something like that too. 481 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 2: It wasn't murder. But ah, look, oh, now I've got 482 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 2: a good excuse to do. 483 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 3: You have to look it up for me. Yeah, yeah, 484 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 3: now that I think about it, I remember I also 485 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 3: had a three D clue and it was a museum, 486 00:26:54,280 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 3: and I think they are finding certain artwork. Yeah. Yeah, 487 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 3: it's a long time. 488 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 4: I have to say, you know, I hate to bring 489 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 4: it up, but and I had the Harry Potter clue, 490 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 4: and that one it was murder, and I always thought 491 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 4: that was kind of pretty dark. 492 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 3: For a wait, was it like Harry Potter murdered Someboddy. 493 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 4: It was like a bunch of death eaters. But one 494 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 4: time I played it when Jenny got murdered, and I 495 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 4: was like, oh, holy. 496 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 3: A heck, this is really dark. Oh my stars, yeah 497 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 3: o jey. 498 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 4: So maybe they moved up. Maybe they're like trying to 499 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 4: make ones now that are less about murder. 500 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, but. 501 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 3: I would love to see what a remake of this 502 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 3: would look like today. 503 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: Hmm. 504 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 4: It would be interesting, because again it is they're trying 505 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 4: to make you think, like everybody could have done it right, 506 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 4: and at the time, you know, you have this like 507 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 4: the Red Scare and communism. 508 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 2: You have this character who's. 509 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 4: Gay and it's like and then not gay, but they 510 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 4: were trying to be like, then it's him, so it 511 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 4: would be like. 512 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 3: It was one of those funny moments where it's like, 513 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 3: but I'm not ashamed of that, but I don't want 514 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 3: to be fired, which could be still very much. 515 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 4: I know. 516 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 3: I was thinking about that, like, it would not be 517 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 3: that hard because communism is still a threat, supposedly a threat. 518 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, it would be interesting. I'm sure there's probably been 519 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 4: talks about remaking it. 520 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 3: Oh, there is practically, so I just pulled it up. 521 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 3: So in twenty twenty four there was a conversation of 522 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 3: Sony taking it. But it would be not like the film, 523 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 3: h it would be more like the game again, and 524 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 3: they've been trying it, says I could. 525 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 4: See it being like a four episode Netflix series or something. 526 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 2: I don't know, lazy. 527 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. Ryan Reynolds and Jason Bateman tried to get onto 528 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 3: it with the muppets. I don't know if I read 529 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 3: that right, Okay, y'all, they'll tell me because I'm like, wait, what, 530 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 3: but yeah, it would be interesting. So if there was 531 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 3: a conversation about how when they had some interviews in between, 532 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,479 Speaker 3: like for anniversaries of Clue, Tim Cury had had a 533 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 3: stroke and was not able to participate, but was able 534 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 3: to come back later to participate and talk about his 535 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 3: memories of it, which I was really glad was able 536 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 3: to happen because I would have made me sad because 537 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 3: Tim Curry was pretty iconic in this, in this whole era, 538 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 3: I feel like he was eighty seventies champion, to be honest, 539 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 3: between that Rocky Horror for me, Legend, and so much. 540 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 2: More, He's pretty iconic in most of his roles. 541 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 3: Oh and by the way, that's what it was. I 542 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 3: saw someone cross crossing Rocky Horror with Legend in their cosplay. 543 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 3: It was beautiful. It was like Tim Curry for both 544 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 3: of those as one. It was an amazing one. I 545 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 3: forgot about that just now because I was like, oh 546 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 3: my god, I get that. 547 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 2: I get that. 548 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 3: I don't think maybe people would because they don't remember Legend. 549 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 2: You'd be surprised. 550 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 4: A Dragon gun I don't know which I a couple 551 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 4: of years ago, me and a whole group of friends 552 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 4: tried to just go as a bunch of different Tim currys. 553 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 2: Really it didn't work out, but I still think that's 554 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 2: a great idea. 555 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 3: Somebody goes as a butler. Somebody goes and then then 556 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 3: he was a horrible character in Criminal Minds. 557 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 4: Oh no, I feel like I want to go as 558 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 4: the muppet Cheshure Island one or it. 559 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 2: Oh god, you're right, it's I'm just saying a lot 560 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 2: of options. 561 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 3: There's a lot of options. But okay, yeah, so that 562 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 3: was clue. How what would you grade this movie? Any 563 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 3: this cult classic that I love so much? 564 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: Hmmm? 565 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 4: How do I create it? Like a home run with 566 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 4: the candlestick in the library? 567 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. It was fun. I enjoyed it. 568 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 3: I like you tried. I don't you try to add 569 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 3: that allgether? Yes, I hope you did. This is definitely 570 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 3: one of those that I don't watch often, but every 571 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 3: time I watch it, I just giggle each time each time. 572 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 3: And I love this. So yeah, listeners, let us know 573 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 3: what you think about this movie. Have you loved this movie? 574 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 3: Is this something that you think is a cult classic? 575 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 3: If you did tell me, why If you haven't tell 576 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 3: me why? Yeah? 577 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 2: And hopefully. 578 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 4: I mean we're we're well outside the window of spoilers. 579 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 4: But if you haven't seen it, go watch it. 580 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 3: Spoil it. It's forty years. 581 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 2: No, we're well outside the window. 582 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,239 Speaker 4: No, hopefully if somebody really wanted to watch it, they 583 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 4: would have stopped. 584 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 3: They would have not. 585 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean, even if you know the ending, 586 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 4: it kind of goes in a wild way. 587 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 3: So it does. 588 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you'll still be. 589 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 3: A watch still watch it? 590 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, Okay, Well, email us all of your thought 591 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 4: listeners at Hello at Stuffannever Told You dot com. 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