1 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: The great Field Yates is with us here on god 2 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: bless football. I gotta tell you, Field, I have never 3 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: ever I've been playing fantasy to football my entire life. Okay, 4 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: I have never rushed to a computer so quickly for 5 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: a pickup at spend ten dollars on Jamis Winston. In 6 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: my entire life. I have never wanted a guy so badly. 7 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: And it's because I have Jackson Dort. 8 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you? 9 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 3: We were thinking about, We had this conversation yesterday throughout 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 3: the day. How much more fun did the NFL just 11 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 3: become for at least one week? 12 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: Yes, yep, yes, as if the NFL. 13 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 3: Who has an absolute ratings bonanza on their way this weekend? Yeah, 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 3: Seahawks and Rams, Chiefs and Broncos in that afternoon window, 15 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 3: that's gonna be incredible. Say whatever you will about the Cowboys, 16 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 3: they draw huge numbers. They're playing on Monday nights. Like 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 3: everything continues to come up NFL. Well, I guess my 18 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 3: only question with Jamis guys, is has anybody confirmed why 19 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 3: he wasn't already the number two quarterback for the Jets. 20 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 3: For the Giants, excuse. 21 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 4: Me, right crazy? Because they win that game last week 22 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 4: if they put him in, I think. 23 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 2: Probably, like at the very least, it's gives he gives 24 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: them a chance. 25 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 3: So I am thrilled for Jamis and anything is possible 26 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 3: against the Packers on Sunday. If you told me that 27 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 3: he throws three touchdowns, I believe you. If he told 28 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 3: me that he throws three touchdowns of the other team, 29 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 3: I'd also believe you. 30 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 4: Yeah right, it's yes, it's a fun watch. 31 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: What do you make of By the way, I am 32 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: wondering here, what is the most? Like you seem very measured. 33 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: You know what you're doing. You're a fantasy expert. What's 34 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: the most you have spent? Like FAB money? Okay, free 35 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: agency money? Have you ever overspent on someone and regreddit 36 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: it like the next week? 37 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, like it happened to me. I don't know, three 38 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 3: weeks ago maybe. So I play in this league that 39 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 3: is a salary cap league. It's also a keeper league. 40 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 3: So when when there's a little bit more of a 41 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: calculus to the FAB acquisition period than in general, because 42 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 3: you can add a player, but you can also potentially 43 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 3: keep that player beyond that season at the salary. So 44 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 3: usually guys in FAB it's one of two things like 45 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 3: you basically blow it all because it's a player like 46 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 3: Puka Nakula was a couple of years ago, where you're like, 47 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 3: this guy might just be the best wide receiver in 48 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 3: fantasy football, even though I only have him for one season, 49 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 3: I'll get one amazing season out of him. Or it's 50 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 3: people trying to be smart around the margins. Hey I'm 51 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 3: gonna bid seven dollars on this guy. I might not 52 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 3: get him, but if I do, I've got a seven 53 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 3: dollar contract. A Rendez gadst in the seconds, who has 54 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 3: been good for the Chargers, very good. He started to 55 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 3: come onto the scene, and I think I spent fifty 56 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 3: three dollars and I was the only person that bid 57 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 3: on him that week. 58 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: You could add for a dollar, I could add it 59 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: for a dollar. 60 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 3: I could have had Actually, I could have had him 61 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 3: for free because that league actually allows us to make 62 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 3: zero dollar bids, so it happens all the time. But Jamis, 63 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 3: it'll be ten dollars well spent. There's a great line 64 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 3: about Jamis, and a million people have said it, but 65 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 3: the classic line on Jamis is no co ter back 66 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 3: an NFL history has ever been able to keep both 67 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 3: teams in the game all game, like, Jamis Winston so great? 68 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: What'd you make just getting away from fantasy for a second, 69 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: real football field. 70 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 4: What did you make of the Giants getting rid of 71 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 4: Brian Dable? 72 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 3: It probably really it was time, like it was time. 73 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 3: It was clear all parties. I'll say this, I was 74 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 3: talking about the Yeah. 75 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: It was just time. 76 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 3: I mean, for four fourth quarter leads of ten points 77 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 3: are larger, you're gonna make the decision at the end 78 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 3: of the year. Perhaps you get a little bit of 79 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 3: a jolt of energy from and this happened. 80 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: Sometimes. 81 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 3: You know, sometimes teams after firing a coach find a 82 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 3: little bit of lightning in the bottle. The Dolphins with 83 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: Dan Campbell way back in the day were a team 84 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 3: that seemed to play inspired football, even if it was 85 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 3: just briefly with a new head coach. I was surprised 86 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 3: that it was a half measure, right, Joe Shane, the 87 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 3: GM is still the GM of the New York Giants 88 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 3: as of right now. I thought the Giants might go 89 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: full house cleaning with both head coach and GM. That 90 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 3: being said, you know, day Ball, I do think he 91 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 3: is a capable and good coach. This team just couldn't 92 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 3: finish games, and it felt like sometimes sometimes they played 93 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 3: the less was or sorry, the sum was less. What's 94 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 3: the most of the expression, the sum is greater than 95 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,679 Speaker 3: the parts. Yeah, there we go, there we go the whole. 96 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 3: I think what it was is the whole was less 97 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 3: than the sum of the parts with the Giants some 98 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 3: time to time, right, yea my best. Yeah, but I'm 99 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 3: a day ball fan. I think he does good job 100 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 3: with quarterback tutoring, but ultimately four fourth quarter blowne leads 101 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 3: like it's a recipe for something to take place, and 102 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 3: Dable kind of sounded like it. I always note when 103 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 3: coaches just in front of the media go to like 104 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 3: just basically like like consistent frustration in front of people. 105 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 3: Some of these coaches, when they're starting to approach the 106 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 3: hot seat will become kinder and gentler in front of 107 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 3: the media and just hey, that's a great question you 108 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 3: asked right there. We're working through some things this week. 109 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: We're gonna do our best to evaluate it, watch the tape, 110 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 3: study practice, and we'll have an answer by Friday. You 111 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 3: have other coaches who, when things are getting really bad, 112 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 3: are just sort of up there like. 113 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. 114 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 3: And it felt like, you know, Brian day Ball, who 115 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 3: was never you know, Sean mcday or Mike Tomlin in 116 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: front of the mic in terms of being so engaging 117 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 3: and energetic, but you could sort of send some frustration 118 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 3: when you watch them in front of the microphone over 119 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 3: the past couple of weeks here. 120 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: The ones that get nicer as they approach the hot 121 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 1: seat are the ones that might be working with you. 122 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 4: That's why it's being nice. 123 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 2: You know, that's true. That's actually not a bad point. 124 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 4: Uh. 125 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: They't at least have a podcast one day? 126 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 3: Right? 127 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 4: Yes? Yes? Did we? 128 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: Uh? 129 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 4: Did we find out the phrase? Mike? 130 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 2: Did we look it up? Looks the whole? Yeah? The 131 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 2: whole is the parts? Right, so we found out We found. 132 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 4: You guys just saying like it's so obvious now none 133 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 4: of us knew it at the time. 134 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 3: Well, I just say a wordsmith, I'm not much of 135 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 3: a wordsmith. Sometimes I just rambled too much. 136 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: We just tripped over it a little. I Field. 137 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: I am wondering, mikey, I thought you had a question there. 138 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but we'll get to it in a second. 139 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: How does the. 140 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 4: Rest of the league view Joe Shade? 141 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: Because I would say the ability to select a quarterback, 142 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: and he's now done it twice. Yeah, where you want 143 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: to give him credit or not. He was the assistant 144 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: GM in Buffalo when they got Josh Allen, and he 145 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: he was the GM in New York, and they appear 146 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: to have found the quarterback for the next fifteen to 147 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: twenty years in Jackson Dart if he could stay healthy. 148 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty important skill in the NFL. 149 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: And so I'm wondering how does the rest of the 150 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: league view Joe Shade. 151 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's had a couple of drafts in succession that 152 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 3: have brought some promise, alike Neighbors last year. You know, 153 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 3: that was the sixth pick in the draft, and not 154 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 3: that Neighbors was expected to go way lower or higher 155 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 3: than that, but still, I mean, he was of the 156 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 3: three receivers that were taken in the first nine picks, 157 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 3: he was easily the best as a rookie. Milik Neighbors 158 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 3: over Marvin Harrison Junior, Roma dunese O Dunday has been 159 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 3: the best of the three this year. Of course, Neighbors 160 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 3: got hurt and this draft lass does look promising. He 161 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 3: had kind of a haavier cake and eat it too 162 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 3: moment this year in the sense that if we redrafted today, 163 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 3: the Titans still take Cam More in my opinion, the 164 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 3: Jaguars still take Travis Hunter, because you're not trading up 165 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 3: for a quarterback if you're Jackson Mill. I don't think, 166 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 3: And I think the Giants take Jackson Dart if they 167 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 3: redraft today. Instead, they got him with pick twenty four 168 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 3: because they're able to orchestrate a trade to move back 169 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 3: up into the latter portion of the first round. So 170 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 3: they also have abdulh Carter already on the roster too, 171 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 3: So I think that move itself was really really good. 172 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 3: There definitely have been some people that have been curious 173 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 3: that have been asking me, is this one where what 174 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 3: is the practical purpose of changing the GM during the 175 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 3: regular season? Right we're still months away from free agency 176 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 3: in the NFL Draft, and the trade deadline is already 177 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 3: behind us, So it's not like there's a lot of 178 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 3: consequential decisions that a GM will be making between now 179 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 3: and the beginning of January. Or is this one where hey, 180 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 3: they're doing it like this for now? But the truth 181 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: of Joe Shane's future is that depending on what caliber 182 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 3: head coach they can bring aboard, and depending on what 183 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 3: that head coach wants, that will determine the fate of 184 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: Joe Shane. This is not a perfect analogy because I 185 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 3: think the seat was warmer here for a year ago 186 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 3: for Trent Balkey of Jacksonville, but Balky remained their GM 187 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 3: during their coaching process. Remember they ended up hiring, of course, 188 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 3: Liam Cohen, and then Cohen ended up getting pairs with 189 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 3: James Gladstone after a Balky I think was involved in 190 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 3: the search for Liam Cohen as well. So there's still 191 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 3: some people that do wonder whether we're going down that 192 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 3: path with Joe Shane. But for now, the Giants have 193 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 3: led you to believe that he is not going not 194 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 3: only going to be in charge or at least involved 195 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 3: with the head coaching search, but also just going to 196 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 3: remain as the GM. 197 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: They let him go, the Dolphins are going to hire 198 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: him in five seconds, I promise you. 199 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 4: They think, so he worked out here, I mean that's true. 200 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, cut his teeth with both the Dolphins and the Bills. 201 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 3: You know, like Eddie GM, he's got some serious notable hits, right, 202 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 3: I mean, being a part of the Josh Allen drafts, 203 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 3: notable Jackson Dart's been great, you know, like neighbors we mentioned, 204 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 3: there have been some decent you know, Cam Scataboo this 205 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 3: year was really good. There's also been some notable whiffs, right, 206 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 3: I mean allowing Saquon Marco to walk away and basically 207 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 3: paying the same amount of money a year later to 208 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 3: retain Darius Slayton. Like, you know, there's been dais that 209 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 3: have left Daniel Jones. That thing did not you know 210 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 3: that probably the idea of of franchising Daniel Jones or 211 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 3: franchise and Saquon Barkley the year in which they paid 212 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 3: Daniel Jones, you should have just done it in reverse, right, 213 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 3: you just franchise Danny Dimes, pay Saquon whatever it was 214 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 3: that he felt like he wanted at that time. Right, 215 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 3: And it's probably it's probably good business to be in 216 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 3: when you have a quarterback that hasn't the answered the 217 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 3: question definitively to be a year too late rather than 218 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 3: a year too early to pay him. 219 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 2: Right. 220 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 3: The Baltimore Ravens did that with Joe Flacco famously, many 221 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 3: many years ago. And then the year in which Joe 222 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 3: was scheduled to become a free agent, he was the 223 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 3: Super Bowl MVP, and nobody said a thing about the 224 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 3: Ravens at the time paying him seven years, one hundred 225 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 3: and twenty six million dollars because he had just taken 226 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 3: them to the Super Bowl. What are you gonna say, 227 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 3: don't do it. So the Giants probably aired in their 228 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 3: ways when they decided to ink Danny Dimes to the 229 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 3: long term deal, franchise Saquon and allow him to test 230 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 3: free agency a year later. 231 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: The fear of doing it this way is that Joe 232 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: Shane potentially would hire a coach that's good for Joe 233 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: Shane and not essentially the. 234 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: Organization of the New York Giants. Correct. Yeah, that's the fear. 235 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 4: Although I will say and listen, it sounds like I'm 236 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 4: copying for Joe. 237 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 2: I am. 238 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 4: I know the guy. He's a good dude and I 239 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 4: like him a lot. 240 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 2: Joe wouldn't do that. I don't think he would. Yeah, 241 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 2: I think Joe's a good dude too. 242 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: I know Joe, and he's obviously been around the NFL 243 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 3: for a long time. In some ways, that was kind 244 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 3: of one of the problems that it felt like the 245 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 3: Giants were dealing with with Brian Daball at the end 246 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 3: of it is. You know, I kept watching. I actually 247 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 3: went to one of the first games that Jackson Dart 248 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 3: started this year, and it was one of the four 249 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 3: times that he was tested for a concussion. And you know, 250 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 3: I'm sitting there watching it each. 251 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 2: And every weekend. 252 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, like, why are they still running this 253 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 3: kid this much? Like you can't totally eliminate scrambles, obviously, 254 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 3: and you can't totally eliminate the quarterback ron Ellman for 255 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 3: a guy who is an amazing runner, but to be 256 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 3: running him as much as they were, to me, it 257 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 3: was throwing the kitchen sink towards winning games that let's 258 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 3: be honest, like, this team just isn't good enough to 259 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 3: win ten games this year. So maybe you play Jackson 260 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 3: like they were, and you go from a four or 261 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 3: five win team to a six or seven win team. 262 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 3: That's not good for sort of the loble goals of 263 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 3: this Giants franchise, right, like right, they want to be 264 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 3: good for the next five to ten years. So it 265 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 3: felt like the way in which Jackson Dart was being 266 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 3: deployed as a runner was at least part of the calculation. 267 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: Right now, stec Gott's here, It happens every year. 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I don't know if Bill has the itch 301 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 3: to get back into the NFL right now we're having 302 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 3: this conversation. I don't know that he might, but we're 303 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 3: having this conversation on Thursday the thirteenth. Like for all 304 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 3: we if North Carolina could could win their third straight 305 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 3: game on Saturday, North Carolina has become less of a 306 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 3: topic since they have been better of late, right, which 307 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 3: I think is probably a good thing for the program 308 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 3: in general. Right, Like, less coverage right now for the 309 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 3: right reasons as opposed to more coverage for the more 310 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 3: distracting reasons is a healthier model for them to be in. 311 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 3: I'm not saying North Carolina has it all figured out. 312 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 3: Taylor would have a much better pulse on this than 313 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 3: I do right now, but at least things are going 314 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 3: in a better direction compared to where they were a 315 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 3: month ago. 316 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: Down there in Chapel. 317 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: Hill, Taylor is basically kicking him out of Chapel Hill. 318 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: He wants him to take the Giants job. He doesn't 319 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: wear any job, he doesn't care, Just take a. 320 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 2: Job somewhere else. Yeah, it's amazing how quickly that turned. 321 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 3: Right, it really has. Man, I was just like, I 322 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 3: feel like it was just yesterday. I was reading a 323 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 3: piece probably on the Athletic or ESPN dot com or 324 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 3: somewhere where it was like the who's who of people 325 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 3: that are showing up for that TCU game on Monday night. 326 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 3: I went to I remember, like I went to dinner 327 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 3: with like ten guys, like ten guys from my town 328 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 3: here in Connecticut all because it wasn't like many of 329 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 3: us were just like we have to watch this game, right, 330 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 3: Like we have to go somewhere with the TVs. Who 331 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 3: can watch the Bill Belichick debut game for North Carolina. 332 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 3: So you know, I still think there's a chance that 333 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 3: they feel like there's a lot of momentum in future 334 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 3: years there. But Taylor certainly is entitled to his opinion. 335 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 3: He's a very passionate North Carolina alum. 336 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: Did you and all ten guys you were watching that 337 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: game with think the Carolina was winning the national championship 338 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: when they were up seven to nothing the first. 339 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm like, are you kidding me? Like, as 340 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 2: he is it this easy? 341 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 3: I knew that they had they probably had some coaching advantages, 342 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 3: but I didn't realize it was that significant, right Geo Lopez, 343 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 3: I was calling him the Heisman Trophy winner after one drive. Now, 344 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 3: I know people at North Carolina are alums that are 345 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 3: just like, can we play Max Johnson instead? I'm like, 346 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 3: I don't think Max Johnson's that good either. Of that 347 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 3: being said, yeah, football season is a long one. I 348 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 3: was thinking about some of the takes that have changed 349 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 3: so much from like two months ago, Jamar Chase was 350 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 3: a bus to where he is right now. It's like, man, 351 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 3: you gotta ride that wave because it is a marathon. 352 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: It is so and this season is unlike any season. 353 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: There's no like, real clear cut team to win it all. 354 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 2: This year it's crazy. 355 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 3: No, Like, if I told you you have a chance 356 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 3: to pick the five best team teams, do you think 357 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 3: you could argue in court for ten Because I could 358 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 3: probably make an argument for ten teams to be in 359 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 3: the top five, right, So. 360 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 4: Wow, I mean I always have ten teams in my 361 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 4: top five. 362 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:14,959 Speaker 3: Yes, sure, Indianapolis, Kansas City, Buffalo, New England, Baltimore. If 363 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 3: you believe in the Sergs, the Broncos, the Chargers, like 364 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 3: that's seven in the AFC, who probably all think like 365 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 3: we're a top five. 366 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 2: Team in the NFL. 367 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 3: Whether they're right or wrong is a different question. And 368 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 3: then the Eagles, the Lions, probably the you know, I 369 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 3: think the Packers still feel that way, just by yeah, 370 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 3: the Rams, Seahawks feeling that way. Bucks, like Bears are 371 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 3: you know, they're six and three and they still have 372 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 3: stuff to prove. But like everybody has a lot of 373 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 3: confidence in themselves when the reality is by definition, only 374 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 3: five teams can actually be in your top five, So 375 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 3: it makes for some really I think it makes for 376 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 3: some fascinating end of season decisions because I think there 377 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 3: are of that big group that I mentioned, not all 378 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 3: of them are in the spot where if you don't 379 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 3: win the super Bowl, your season is a disappointment. If 380 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 3: the Patri's win a playoff game, if they're playing in 381 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 3: the divisional round, if they're playing in the AFC Championship game, 382 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 3: everybody is going to be saying, holy crap, a twenty 383 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 3: three year old quarterback and Mike Rabel have taken this 384 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 3: team this far, this soon. Imagine what it looks like 385 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 3: by year four. If the Ravens get bounced early, if 386 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 3: the Bills get bounced early, if the Lions get bounced early. 387 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 4: Disappointment Eagles chiefs. 388 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 3: Like, there's gonna be some serious anxiety emanating from those 389 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 3: various franchises in fan bas is if those teams don't 390 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 3: get the job done. 391 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: The Pats are in the best position, because you're right, 392 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: they could just win that division and everything else you win. 393 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: They get blown out first round, no one's gonna care. 394 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 3: They got tons of cap space going forward. 395 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 2: The quack Yeah, the quarterback is twenty three. 396 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know that. 397 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 3: It's not like Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen or anywhere 398 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson or anywhere close to the end of their career. 399 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 3: They've got plenty of football ahead of them. But you 400 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 3: know it's it's just it's they're playing with house money 401 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 3: right now up there in New England. 402 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: We'll get you out of here in a second. I 403 00:18:58,119 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: know you have to run Marcus Freeman. Can you see 404 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: him leaving college going to the NFL man specifically, Yeah, 405 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: I tell you, it's a covenant job, it's a pillar franchise, 406 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: it's market number one, and you have a. 407 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 3: Quarterback and if you win with the Giants forever, you're 408 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 3: a legend. Right Like when we reflect back on Bill Parcells, 409 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 3: Tom Coughlin, no one thinks of anything other than those 410 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 3: guys brought them to multiple Super Bowls each, Right, There 411 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 3: were some frustrating seasons for each of those coaches when 412 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,719 Speaker 3: they were the head coach there. And I know that 413 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 3: recently this hasn't been the trend. But whenever you're like 414 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 3: talking yourself into something or accepting something, you're doing it 415 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 3: through the prism of I think the lens of what's 416 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 3: the best case scenario. And this was a legendarily loyal 417 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 3: franchise to coaches for a long time. Marcus Freeing might 418 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 3: be sitting there saying to himself, I work in the 419 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 3: nil era. I might have a great squad right now. 420 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 3: If we remember there were oh and two to start 421 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 3: the season. What if we had slipped up once or 422 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 3: twice more, which is college football. This stuff happens. I 423 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 3: might lose half my roster. Not saying it's likely, but 424 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 3: you know it's possible. Where for the g man, It's 425 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 3: like if I go to the Giants still a young coach, 426 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 3: obviously he is incredibly like he's super dynamic, like you know, 427 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 3: the media would I mean, I think fans would very easily, yes, 428 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 3: fall in love with the mystique of Marcus Freeman. 429 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 4: It'd be a very popular hire. 430 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 2: You're right, very popular. 431 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 3: So there's always the I think I would probably land 432 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 3: on surprised if he left Notre Dame for the Giants, 433 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 3: just because there's been no like, It's not like he's 434 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 3: come out and said he has aspirations to leave South Bend, 435 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 3: but man, I would be certainly very intrigued by the 436 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,239 Speaker 3: high he's done an amazing job there, notre Dame. 437 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, these jobs don't come open often, and a job, 438 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: especially a job that has a quarterback attach you with. 439 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 4: Go ahead, Mike, He's got a run here, quick, really. 440 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 3: Quick, on the way out where where the Cincinnati Bengals 441 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 3: are sitting at three and six? 442 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 2: Are we really gonna see Joe Burrow on Thanksgiving? 443 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 4: That's just really gonna happen? Why not? 444 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 3: So if they win the next two games Steelers and Patriots, 445 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 3: I think they're not. But if they do lock it in, 446 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 3: we'll see him sometime. If not Thanksgiving the week after. 447 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 3: If they're still hanging around in this division, which these 448 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 3: teams have given them the chance to hang around, Ravens 449 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 3: and Steelers have. If they don't, I still lean towards 450 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 3: him returning this year, But it decreases the odds. 451 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 2: Decidedly. 452 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 3: If they're three and eight and the Ravens have our 453 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 3: six and five, and it's like. 454 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 2: What are we really doing here? 455 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 4: Doesn't make sense? 456 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 2: That makes sense? Yeah, you gotta look up of your 457 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 2: long term health. Yeah. 458 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 4: The borough always thinks he has a chance. That's the 459 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 4: thing that's true. 460 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 2: The window is his entire career, by his own. 461 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: Admission, We love you, buddy, thank you for doing this. 462 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: We always appreciate the time. I know you got a run, 463 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: but enjoyed the great football weekend coming up. It's gonna 464 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: be a special bug, It's gonna be fun that it's 465 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: gonna be awesome. I love you guys too. And as 466 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 1: I walk away here, I must say, God bless Taylor. 467 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 2: Yes, I was aware of you at what Texas. 468 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 3: That what he's did, what you guys, I thought he 469 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 3: I thought he'd be here on I really was looking 470 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 3: for my opportunity. 471 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 2: But that on this he's gonna be so upsected. 472 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 3: H