Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about Megan Markle's new lifestyle show. So
Speaker 1: she They've launched a trailer on Netflix for Megan Markle's
Speaker 1: new lifestyle slash cooking show.
Speaker 2: So you're seeing like.
Speaker 1: Getting honey from like the bee keeping where you're seeing
Speaker 1: the trays of bees. You're seeing Mindy Kayling I presumably
Speaker 1: a friend of hers. You're seeing other wealthy looking people
Speaker 1: that look fresh and pretty coming over. And you're seeing
Speaker 1: very high quality, very high resolution.
Speaker 2: Lifestyle content.
Speaker 1: So it really looks like Real Simple magazine come to
Speaker 1: life or Martha Stewart magazine come to life. And people
Speaker 1: are loving, people are hating, people are commenting.
Speaker 2: I only saw it the first day it was out.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything since, but I have an opinion shocking.
Speaker 1: So Megan Markle was a moderately successful actress. She had
Speaker 1: a lifestyle brand I think called the tag a website.
Speaker 1: She presumably had to get rid of that when she
Speaker 1: married into the royal family and she was a princess.
Speaker 1: She married a prince, she landed a prince. She's American,
Speaker 1: she's divorced. She landed a prince. Like give Mega Marco
Speaker 1: her flowers and everybody did at the time, and she
Speaker 1: was beloved. Then the you know, then the exit, the mexit,
Speaker 1: and that was extremely polarizing press and that probably wasn't
Speaker 1: very fun for them. But they moved to Monacito, and
Speaker 1: Monacito is like the land of the humble brag. It's
Speaker 1: basically an area near Santa Barbara that has a like
Speaker 1: a little quintessential quaint town. And that's what I mean
Speaker 1: by humble brag. Their CVS is incidentally, their CVS is
Speaker 1: where I found the Midnight Cream, the Loreal Midnight cream
Speaker 1: that led me to walk in Paris Fashion Week and
Speaker 1: a whole relationship with Loreal because it was in the
Speaker 1: back of the shelf one left and it was discontinued.
Speaker 1: It wasn't even a successful product, and I just happened
Speaker 1: to pick it up because I had never seen it
Speaker 1: before and the rest is history, because that was a
Speaker 1: viral cream and I've sold millions of dollars of cream,
Speaker 1: to say the least. Okay, so that's where I saw it.
Speaker 1: But I say that because the CVS is like a
Speaker 1: shitty CVS. It's not like an elite, amazing CVS. And
Speaker 1: if you think about the net worth of the people
Speaker 1: in that area. Think Oprah, think Ellen DeGeneres, think Rob Low,
Speaker 1: think there's somebody else. There's a bunch of people. So
Speaker 1: then you think about the little town. I've seen Ashton
Speaker 1: Kutcher there with Miela like it's a legit I've seen
Speaker 1: Jane Lynch there.
Speaker 2: It's a legit area.
Speaker 1: And the town is super quaint with little, earthy, cute stores.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So it's it's maintaining and preserving whatever it was or
Speaker 1: they intended to be. But it's it's it's giving humble
Speaker 1: brag because you'd think that it would be like they'd
Speaker 1: have you know, Ralph, Lauren and Arimez.
Speaker 2: So somebody's preserving that. Okay.
Speaker 1: So it's a very wealthy community and it's antiques and
Speaker 1: it's gardening, and it's pets and it's you know, just
Speaker 1: horses and just rich. Okay, it's just a fucking rich area.
Speaker 1: And this show is authentically Megan Markle. She married a prince,
Speaker 1: was part of the royal family, moved with him to Montecito,
Speaker 1: and I think what was like a thirteen or seventeen
Speaker 1: million dollar house, has chickens, kids, has her yoga lifestyle,
Speaker 1: has rich neighbors, likes to cook, I picture her, you know,
Speaker 1: going to the store and buying French croissan and when
Speaker 1: she's at home making Chantilly cream for her scones. So like,
Speaker 1: this show is aspirational, it's affluent, it's glossy, it's pretty,
Speaker 1: and it feels authentic, Like you can't hate somebody for
Speaker 1: being authentically who they are. She's presenting as wealthy with
Speaker 1: very fresh, polished friends. And Martha Stewart came from Nutley,
Speaker 1: New Jersey, but she married a guy in finance and
Speaker 1: she started having these dinner parties and this is what happens.
Speaker 1: You're in Westport, you're in Greenwich, and you're sort of flexing,
Speaker 1: you're fronting, and you're posing, and you're keeping up with
Speaker 1: the Joneses, and you become the thing and you present
Speaker 1: that thing. And Megan Markle it doesn't really matter right
Speaker 1: now where she's from, because I don't know anybody else
Speaker 1: who's been a member of the royal family who landed
Speaker 1: a friggin prince. So she's as entitled as anybody else
Speaker 1: to go in a gorgeous kitchen and make unrelatable, beautiful
Speaker 1: dishes that she says don't have to be perfect, but
Speaker 1: yet everything looks perfect. Okay, I'm picking up what you're
Speaker 1: putting down. I'm not saying I'm gonna watch it. I
Speaker 1: don't necessarily care, but it's on brand more than her
Speaker 1: interviewing Andy Cohen on a podcast like that doesn't make
Speaker 1: any sense. It just doesn't make any sense, and it didn't.
Speaker 1: It did well in the beginning, because everything does well
Speaker 1: in the beginning, pushes thoughty algorithm, but it didn't succeed
Speaker 1: because it's not what she should be doing. So she's
Speaker 1: been making jams and she presumably wants to be Martha
Speaker 1: Stewart or Goop. Goop is less relatable because it had
Speaker 1: more gimmicks like this candle smells like my vagina. I
Speaker 1: do not think we're gonna be smelling Megan's vagina by
Speaker 1: way of a candle anytime soon. And asie or chia
Speaker 1: enemas and cupping like that was the shock value shit
Speaker 1: that Gwyneth brilliantly did to get people's attention. And I
Speaker 1: believe she's probably had an espresso enema in her life,
Speaker 1: and I believe she's done the cupping. I think we've
Speaker 1: seen that, But you know, I don't believe that candle
Speaker 1: smells like her Vagina, but nevertheless, it wasn't totally on brand.
Speaker 1: It's a spend of reality, but it's it's adjacent. She
Speaker 1: grew up, went to Spence wealthy actress and producer parents
Speaker 1: like grew up on the Upper East Side.
Speaker 2: Like it's okay to be who you are.
Speaker 1: It's funny that I've shopped at TJ Max forever before
Speaker 1: it became cool home goods. I mean, you know, I've
Speaker 1: had my house in the Hampton's maybe twelve years. I've
Speaker 1: been shopping at TJ Max since it was before it
Speaker 1: was very cool. You know, there were a couple of
Speaker 1: people and myself and de Rindam Medley were the only,
Speaker 1: you know, two wealthy people shopping there. I wasn't wealthy then,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't broke either. And I've had people say
Speaker 1: to me in the last five years. I've said one
Speaker 1: person like comment like make some video and say like
Speaker 1: I was cost playing poor, Like, first of all, TJ
Speaker 1: Max has two thousand dollars bags.
Speaker 2: Second of all, I'm not cost playing anything.
Speaker 1: The point is, if Meggan Markle was doing a show
Speaker 1: at the Dollar Store, you guys are like, oh please,
Speaker 1: Like there's no way for her to win she could
Speaker 1: do Aristocracy, or she could do the Dollar Store. It
Speaker 1: would be equally wrong to people. So I don't know
Speaker 1: what people think she's supposed to be doing. Maybe she's
Speaker 1: supposed to be going back on suits. But people got
Speaker 1: mad at her because she wanted to be famous, and
Speaker 1: Harry was supposedly asking someone the head of Bob Iger
Speaker 1: at the head of Disney, for an acting job for her,
Speaker 1: when in fact she is an actress. So people are
Speaker 1: mad that she wants to be famous, that she wants
Speaker 1: to be private, that she aired her dirty laundry. It's
Speaker 1: the royal family, that she's not a great daughter in law. Whatever, Okay, great,
Speaker 1: take it all, take it all. Her doing a glossy
Speaker 1: lifestyle show is completely on brand and completely her in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, So I ain't got no problem with it.
Speaker 1: It seems authentic. What do you think? I was thinking
Speaker 1: back to the Megan Markle thing, and I it just
Speaker 1: for some reason took my mind to people's obsession if
Speaker 1: other people came from money, like.
Speaker 2: You get a demerit.
Speaker 1: Now I understand you getting a demerit if you act
Speaker 1: so elitist and if you're an asshole or if you're
Speaker 1: tone deaf, or if you don't understand the plight of
Speaker 1: the people, or if you don't get back, but just
Speaker 1: categorically in talking about someone like a Megan Markle or
Speaker 1: like a Gwyneth Paltrow, and Megan did not come from money.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about how there's something in Australia called tall
Speaker 1: poppy syndrome. I think it might be Canada to but
Speaker 1: it's definitely Australia. Tall poppy syndrome means like you're not
Speaker 1: allowed to have busted out, meaning you're not allowed to
Speaker 1: like poke your head and be the tallest of the flowers.
Speaker 2: They'll bring you back down.
Speaker 1: People don't like when it's like, oh, you made your
Speaker 1: way out, you don't remember where.
Speaker 2: You came from.
Speaker 1: So like that someone like Megan Markle would get that,
Speaker 1: someone like Gwyneth Paltrow would get just haze for having
Speaker 1: come from money, Like you get a demerit and it's
Speaker 1: not entirely fair, Like if you're acting in a certain way.
Speaker 1: I guess if you're Gwyneth Paltrow and you're promoting chia
Speaker 1: seed animas, maybe that's the way and that's what happens.
Speaker 1: But I don't think people should be penalized because they
Speaker 1: came from money or because they went to a good
Speaker 1: school that their parents paid for, because they don't have
Speaker 1: financial debt, like people are born or high born or.
Speaker 2: Not, and that's just what goes on.
Speaker 1: I guess it's how you act, just in the same
Speaker 1: way that like people, people get canceled for presenting as
Speaker 1: something other than they are. People get canceled for presenting
Speaker 1: his kind of being cunty. People get canceled for presenting
Speaker 1: as just one way and you find out there another way.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's been so rampant, it's been rampant
Speaker 1: with you know, it's just been it's been the age
Speaker 1: of cancelation. And I would say it's over, It's really
Speaker 1: not over. It's the age of celebrity is really over.
Speaker 1: Like celebrities aren't celebrities anymore, and they don't know it,
Speaker 1: and they're just like when reality stars came out and
Speaker 1: actresses couldn't stand them and would say bad things about
Speaker 1: them because they're real celebrities and and.
Speaker 2: Reality stars are not.
Speaker 1: It's similar with like celebrity and influencers, celebrity and just
Speaker 1: different means of being successful. Now, you know, if someone
Speaker 1: like mister beast is making eighty million dollars on YouTube
Speaker 1: and you've never even heard of him.
Speaker 2: It's like, let's just put it this way.
Speaker 1: I know actresses and actors, and I know very big
Speaker 1: time comedians, and I know what they make, and I
Speaker 1: know what they have to do to make that money,
Speaker 1: and the plan they have to get on in the hotel,
Speaker 1: they have to stay on, in the family they have
Speaker 1: to leave.
Speaker 2: And it's still a lot of money.
Speaker 1: And it's asked a crazy amount of money to obviously
Speaker 1: the average or even below you know, the below average
Speaker 1: or average American. That being said, it's bulky. You could
Speaker 1: do in your house with your phone. What it takes
Speaker 1: a several hundred person camera crew, with food and craft
Speaker 1: services and trailers and insurance and budgets and hotels and
Speaker 1: vans and walkie talkies and like all the shit. Like
Speaker 1: I get offered, I have priced myself out of the market.
Speaker 1: I get offered crazy TV shows and opportunities, and I
Speaker 1: there's an opportunity cost. I mean, I do this podcast
Speaker 1: at this point. I make a lot of money on
Speaker 1: this podcast. Okay, by anyone's standards. I do this podcast
Speaker 1: at this point because I love talking to you guys.
Speaker 1: And I love just being able to sit down at
Speaker 1: a mic and like say my piece and say something.
Speaker 1: But I can tell you this pound for pound the
Speaker 1: time I have to take to do this, which isn't
Speaker 1: a lot, it's not a big lift. Still sitting down
Speaker 1: and doing this a couple times a week, I make
Speaker 1: a lot more money doing other things. Like it's it's
Speaker 1: it's just crazy how efficient we can be with our time.
Speaker 1: And it's kind of a cousin of the at home work,
Speaker 1: but it's now it's at home entertainment work and then
Speaker 1: you are on zoom. You don't even have to be
Speaker 1: with the person like for someone like me, it's really
Speaker 1: really made me more antisocial, and that's not good. But
Speaker 1: it's crazy because celebrity is not celebrity anymore, and the
Speaker 1: bulk and the way to make money is just not
Speaker 1: what it used to be. And it's why someone like
Speaker 1: Blake Lively was on the Red Carpet in hair makeup
Speaker 1: trying to really promote her hair care and promote her
Speaker 1: alcohol because she's on a red carpet on a movie
Speaker 1: that's like, you know, The Dark Ages and so that
Speaker 1: and that did three hundred million dollars. That's like a
Speaker 1: huge moment, so better maximize it because she doesn't have
Speaker 1: that many other opportunities to maximize it. Same with JL,
Speaker 1: like putting twenty five pounds of shit in a five
Speaker 1: pound bag.
Speaker 2: I mean, everyone's trying to get theirs.