1 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about Megan Markle's new lifestyle show. So 2 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: she They've launched a trailer on Netflix for Megan Markle's 3 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: new lifestyle slash cooking show. 4 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 2: So you're seeing like. 5 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: Getting honey from like the bee keeping where you're seeing 6 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: the trays of bees. You're seeing Mindy Kayling I presumably 7 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: a friend of hers. You're seeing other wealthy looking people 8 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: that look fresh and pretty coming over. And you're seeing 9 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: very high quality, very high resolution. 10 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: Lifestyle content. 11 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: So it really looks like Real Simple magazine come to 12 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: life or Martha Stewart magazine come to life. And people 13 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: are loving, people are hating, people are commenting. 14 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 2: I only saw it the first day it was out. 15 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything since, but I have an opinion shocking. 16 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: So Megan Markle was a moderately successful actress. She had 17 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 1: a lifestyle brand I think called the tag a website. 18 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: She presumably had to get rid of that when she 19 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: married into the royal family and she was a princess. 20 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: She married a prince, she landed a prince. She's American, 21 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: she's divorced. She landed a prince. Like give Mega Marco 22 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: her flowers and everybody did at the time, and she 23 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: was beloved. Then the you know, then the exit, the mexit, 24 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: and that was extremely polarizing press and that probably wasn't 25 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: very fun for them. But they moved to Monacito, and 26 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: Monacito is like the land of the humble brag. It's 27 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: basically an area near Santa Barbara that has a like 28 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: a little quintessential quaint town. And that's what I mean 29 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: by humble brag. Their CVS is incidentally, their CVS is 30 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: where I found the Midnight Cream, the Loreal Midnight cream 31 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: that led me to walk in Paris Fashion Week and 32 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: a whole relationship with Loreal because it was in the 33 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: back of the shelf one left and it was discontinued. 34 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: It wasn't even a successful product, and I just happened 35 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: to pick it up because I had never seen it 36 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: before and the rest is history, because that was a 37 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: viral cream and I've sold millions of dollars of cream, 38 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: to say the least. Okay, so that's where I saw it. 39 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: But I say that because the CVS is like a 40 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: shitty CVS. It's not like an elite, amazing CVS. And 41 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: if you think about the net worth of the people 42 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: in that area. Think Oprah, think Ellen DeGeneres, think Rob Low, 43 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: think there's somebody else. There's a bunch of people. So 44 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: then you think about the little town. I've seen Ashton 45 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: Kutcher there with Miela like it's a legit I've seen 46 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: Jane Lynch there. 47 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 2: It's a legit area. 48 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: And the town is super quaint with little, earthy, cute stores. 49 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 2: Right. 50 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: So it's it's maintaining and preserving whatever it was or 51 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 1: they intended to be. But it's it's it's giving humble 52 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: brag because you'd think that it would be like they'd 53 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: have you know, Ralph, Lauren and Arimez. 54 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: So somebody's preserving that. Okay. 55 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: So it's a very wealthy community and it's antiques and 56 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: it's gardening, and it's pets and it's you know, just 57 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: horses and just rich. Okay, it's just a fucking rich area. 58 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: And this show is authentically Megan Markle. She married a prince, 59 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: was part of the royal family, moved with him to Montecito, 60 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: and I think what was like a thirteen or seventeen 61 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: million dollar house, has chickens, kids, has her yoga lifestyle, 62 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: has rich neighbors, likes to cook, I picture her, you know, 63 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: going to the store and buying French croissan and when 64 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: she's at home making Chantilly cream for her scones. So like, 65 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: this show is aspirational, it's affluent, it's glossy, it's pretty, 66 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: and it feels authentic, Like you can't hate somebody for 67 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: being authentically who they are. She's presenting as wealthy with 68 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: very fresh, polished friends. And Martha Stewart came from Nutley, 69 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: New Jersey, but she married a guy in finance and 70 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: she started having these dinner parties and this is what happens. 71 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: You're in Westport, you're in Greenwich, and you're sort of flexing, 72 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: you're fronting, and you're posing, and you're keeping up with 73 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: the Joneses, and you become the thing and you present 74 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: that thing. And Megan Markle it doesn't really matter right 75 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: now where she's from, because I don't know anybody else 76 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: who's been a member of the royal family who landed 77 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: a friggin prince. So she's as entitled as anybody else 78 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: to go in a gorgeous kitchen and make unrelatable, beautiful 79 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: dishes that she says don't have to be perfect, but 80 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: yet everything looks perfect. Okay, I'm picking up what you're 81 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: putting down. I'm not saying I'm gonna watch it. I 82 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: don't necessarily care, but it's on brand more than her 83 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: interviewing Andy Cohen on a podcast like that doesn't make 84 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: any sense. It just doesn't make any sense, and it didn't. 85 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: It did well in the beginning, because everything does well 86 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: in the beginning, pushes thoughty algorithm, but it didn't succeed 87 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: because it's not what she should be doing. So she's 88 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: been making jams and she presumably wants to be Martha 89 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: Stewart or Goop. Goop is less relatable because it had 90 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: more gimmicks like this candle smells like my vagina. I 91 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: do not think we're gonna be smelling Megan's vagina by 92 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: way of a candle anytime soon. And asie or chia 93 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: enemas and cupping like that was the shock value shit 94 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: that Gwyneth brilliantly did to get people's attention. And I 95 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: believe she's probably had an espresso enema in her life, 96 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: and I believe she's done the cupping. I think we've 97 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: seen that, But you know, I don't believe that candle 98 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: smells like her Vagina, but nevertheless, it wasn't totally on brand. 99 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: It's a spend of reality, but it's it's adjacent. She 100 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: grew up, went to Spence wealthy actress and producer parents 101 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: like grew up on the Upper East Side. 102 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 2: Like it's okay to be who you are. 103 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: It's funny that I've shopped at TJ Max forever before 104 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: it became cool home goods. I mean, you know, I've 105 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: had my house in the Hampton's maybe twelve years. I've 106 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: been shopping at TJ Max since it was before it 107 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: was very cool. You know, there were a couple of 108 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: people and myself and de Rindam Medley were the only, 109 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: you know, two wealthy people shopping there. I wasn't wealthy then, 110 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: but I wasn't broke either. And I've had people say 111 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: to me in the last five years. I've said one 112 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: person like comment like make some video and say like 113 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: I was cost playing poor, Like, first of all, TJ 114 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: Max has two thousand dollars bags. 115 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: Second of all, I'm not cost playing anything. 116 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: The point is, if Meggan Markle was doing a show 117 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: at the Dollar Store, you guys are like, oh please, 118 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: Like there's no way for her to win she could 119 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: do Aristocracy, or she could do the Dollar Store. It 120 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: would be equally wrong to people. So I don't know 121 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: what people think she's supposed to be doing. Maybe she's 122 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: supposed to be going back on suits. But people got 123 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: mad at her because she wanted to be famous, and 124 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: Harry was supposedly asking someone the head of Bob Iger 125 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: at the head of Disney, for an acting job for her, 126 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: when in fact she is an actress. So people are 127 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: mad that she wants to be famous, that she wants 128 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: to be private, that she aired her dirty laundry. It's 129 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,559 Speaker 1: the royal family, that she's not a great daughter in law. Whatever, Okay, great, 130 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: take it all, take it all. Her doing a glossy 131 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: lifestyle show is completely on brand and completely her in 132 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, So I ain't got no problem with it. 133 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: It seems authentic. What do you think? I was thinking 134 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: back to the Megan Markle thing, and I it just 135 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: for some reason took my mind to people's obsession if 136 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: other people came from money, like. 137 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 2: You get a demerit. 138 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: Now I understand you getting a demerit if you act 139 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: so elitist and if you're an asshole or if you're 140 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 1: tone deaf, or if you don't understand the plight of 141 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: the people, or if you don't get back, but just 142 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: categorically in talking about someone like a Megan Markle or 143 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: like a Gwyneth Paltrow, and Megan did not come from money. 144 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about how there's something in Australia called tall 145 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: poppy syndrome. I think it might be Canada to but 146 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: it's definitely Australia. Tall poppy syndrome means like you're not 147 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: allowed to have busted out, meaning you're not allowed to 148 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: like poke your head and be the tallest of the flowers. 149 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: They'll bring you back down. 150 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: People don't like when it's like, oh, you made your 151 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: way out, you don't remember where. 152 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 2: You came from. 153 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: So like that someone like Megan Markle would get that, 154 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: someone like Gwyneth Paltrow would get just haze for having 155 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: come from money, Like you get a demerit and it's 156 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: not entirely fair, Like if you're acting in a certain way. 157 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: I guess if you're Gwyneth Paltrow and you're promoting chia 158 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: seed animas, maybe that's the way and that's what happens. 159 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: But I don't think people should be penalized because they 160 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: came from money or because they went to a good 161 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: school that their parents paid for, because they don't have 162 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: financial debt, like people are born or high born or. 163 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 2: Not, and that's just what goes on. 164 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: I guess it's how you act, just in the same 165 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: way that like people, people get canceled for presenting as 166 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: something other than they are. People get canceled for presenting 167 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,599 Speaker 1: his kind of being cunty. People get canceled for presenting 168 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: as just one way and you find out there another way. 169 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's been so rampant, it's been rampant 170 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: with you know, it's just been it's been the age 171 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: of cancelation. And I would say it's over, It's really 172 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: not over. It's the age of celebrity is really over. 173 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: Like celebrities aren't celebrities anymore, and they don't know it, 174 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: and they're just like when reality stars came out and 175 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: actresses couldn't stand them and would say bad things about 176 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: them because they're real celebrities and and. 177 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 2: Reality stars are not. 178 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: It's similar with like celebrity and influencers, celebrity and just 179 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: different means of being successful. Now, you know, if someone 180 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: like mister beast is making eighty million dollars on YouTube 181 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: and you've never even heard of him. 182 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 2: It's like, let's just put it this way. 183 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: I know actresses and actors, and I know very big 184 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: time comedians, and I know what they make, and I 185 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: know what they have to do to make that money, 186 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: and the plan they have to get on in the hotel, 187 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: they have to stay on, in the family they have 188 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: to leave. 189 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: And it's still a lot of money. 190 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: And it's asked a crazy amount of money to obviously 191 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: the average or even below you know, the below average 192 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: or average American. That being said, it's bulky. You could 193 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: do in your house with your phone. What it takes 194 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: a several hundred person camera crew, with food and craft 195 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: services and trailers and insurance and budgets and hotels and 196 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: vans and walkie talkies and like all the shit. Like 197 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: I get offered, I have priced myself out of the market. 198 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: I get offered crazy TV shows and opportunities, and I 199 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 1: there's an opportunity cost. I mean, I do this podcast 200 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: at this point. I make a lot of money on 201 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: this podcast. Okay, by anyone's standards. I do this podcast 202 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: at this point because I love talking to you guys. 203 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: And I love just being able to sit down at 204 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: a mic and like say my piece and say something. 205 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: But I can tell you this pound for pound the 206 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: time I have to take to do this, which isn't 207 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: a lot, it's not a big lift. Still sitting down 208 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: and doing this a couple times a week, I make 209 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: a lot more money doing other things. Like it's it's 210 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: it's just crazy how efficient we can be with our time. 211 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: And it's kind of a cousin of the at home work, 212 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: but it's now it's at home entertainment work and then 213 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: you are on zoom. You don't even have to be 214 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: with the person like for someone like me, it's really 215 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: really made me more antisocial, and that's not good. But 216 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: it's crazy because celebrity is not celebrity anymore, and the 217 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: bulk and the way to make money is just not 218 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: what it used to be. And it's why someone like 219 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 1: Blake Lively was on the Red Carpet in hair makeup 220 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: trying to really promote her hair care and promote her 221 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: alcohol because she's on a red carpet on a movie 222 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: that's like, you know, The Dark Ages and so that 223 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: and that did three hundred million dollars. That's like a 224 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: huge moment, so better maximize it because she doesn't have 225 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: that many other opportunities to maximize it. Same with JL, 226 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: like putting twenty five pounds of shit in a five 227 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: pound bag. 228 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 2: I mean, everyone's trying to get theirs.