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Speaker 1: A specter is haunting the United States, the specter of

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Speaker 1: Bernie's revolution. We are joined tonight not just by the Senator,

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Speaker 1: but by someone who fled another socialist revolution, one that

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Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders speaks very highly of. This is Verdict with

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Speaker 1: Ted Cruz. Welcome back to Verdict with Ted Cruz. We

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Speaker 1: are joined as ever by the Senator and also by

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Speaker 1: the senators. Tia sonja is. My Spanish is not very good,

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Speaker 1: but I think that was about right, Aunt, thank you.

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Speaker 1: This is in a few days going to be the

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Speaker 1: fifty eighth anniversary of your fleeing the communist regime in Cuba,

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Speaker 1: and yet we've got the leader of the Democratic Party

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Speaker 1: nomination process is praising the Fidel Castro regime. I think

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Speaker 1: we have the clip very opposed to the authoritarian nature

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Speaker 1: everything goes bad. You know, when Fidel Castro came into office,

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Speaker 1: you know what he did. He had a massive literacy program.

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Speaker 1: Is that a bad thing? Listen? Bernie has spent his

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Speaker 1: entire life, his entire career, praising communist dictators, but this

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Speaker 1: week his latest ode to Fidel Castro frankly just pissed

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Speaker 1: This guy is the front runner for the Democratic nomination

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Speaker 1: to be president. And and and he sings the praises

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Speaker 1: of Castro and Cuban communism. My dad fled Cuban fifty seven.

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Speaker 1: Matthiasonia was still there. She was a kid, and so

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Speaker 1: she saw the Cuban revolution firsthand, and she ended up

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Speaker 1: fighting against Castro. So THEA if you would, I just

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Speaker 1: want you to, first of all, tell me what it

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Speaker 1: was like to be in Cuba when when the revolution happened,

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Speaker 1: when Castro took over, Actually he was, he was a

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Speaker 1: lot of people were happy because finally somebody was coming

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Speaker 1: in that was pretty seen. We're gonna give you a

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Speaker 1: chance to change a hope, We're going to change things around.

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Speaker 1: Everybody was going to have whatever they want to. The

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Speaker 1: and everybody will be the same. In reality, yes, everybody

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Speaker 1: not everyone was. Everyone was poor and suffering and miserable.

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Speaker 1: And everybody was miserable. Everybody was miserable. What Bernie's saying

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Speaker 1: is a bunch of garbage. So you're there, you're you're

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Speaker 1: so you're seeing this. You're a teenage girl. Right, you

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Speaker 1: see what's happening. You see Castro begin executing people, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: persecuting people. Nobody could talk, nobody could say anything. They

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Speaker 1: did he do that by indoctrinated in these people by

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Speaker 1: and the other, and it's all going to be free.

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Speaker 1: But you gotta tell us what's going on in your house?

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Speaker 1: Who talk against the government. So everything was persecuting one another,

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Speaker 1: especially the older people that actually we leave a good

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Speaker 1: life before in Cuba it was beautiful. What do people

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Speaker 1: face in terms of their friends and neighbors and families

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Speaker 1: spying on them. You have people in each blog, there

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Speaker 1: thing watch for? They're watching for everything if you bring

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Speaker 1: He was going to take tents away from the ridge.

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Speaker 1: My father worked hard to be where he was. My

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Speaker 1: best restaurants. In nineteen eighty nine, Sanders stated, after visiting Cuba,

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Speaker 1: What happened to you as a result. What happened when

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Speaker 1: They picked me up several times. So you were pretty

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Speaker 1: clearly fighting against totally against Castro. Yes, yes, son, this

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Speaker 1: So when you come back you usually bring a duffel

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Speaker 1: That is correct. Socialism is simply the economic system of communism.

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Speaker 1: Socialism is government ownership of the means of production or distribution.

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Speaker 1: Cuba in the nineteen fifties was the world's number one

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Speaker 1: them in. But what about the universal healthcare? I mean,

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